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Bump >>52243985

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Blood Axes are da best and here's proof!

Every character from other klanz was nerfed, yet Snikrot was buffed!

>l2

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>>52244277
>what more do you want from me?

FIXITFIXITFIXITFIXITFIXIT

>>52244277
>Why do I still live
Did Cher have a song with that title?

>>52244277
>that quote

Did girlyman say that to the emperor?

He's done with everyone's shit

>>52244277
7th for armor autism

Okay, guys.

Post your best fucking Nids buffs.

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>>52244310
Further proof that Blood Axes is best, boss!

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Make Storm troopers not awful.

What loyalist faction is the most redpilled to how shitty and corrupt the imperium is at the present moment?

Excluding guilliman of course, is it space puppies or maybe the grey knights?

>>52244348
Nids are removed as a player army and can be used in special 3 way scenerios where the army acts off of a D66 table to finally make them the npc army

GSCs can still be a player army because they aren't shit

>>52244357
Probably the officio assasinorum.

>>52244356
Apparently the answer is to just take a third extra points, but they still lost. Maybe half again?

>>52244348
I use the /tg/ edition on 1d4chan among friends, and it's great fun for stompy Nidzilla lists.

>>52244357
The Marines Malevolent or the Iron Hands.

Marines Malevolent by just rolling with it. The world sucks, so what? Marines Malevolent are just going to make it better… for themselves.

Iron Hands because the world sucks, everything sucks, you suck, you all suck, those guardsmen sucked so they killed them for sucking so hard, flesh sucks so they removed it with cyborg bits, you all suck.

Allow orks to take def dreads in squads of 3 like sm.

Give orks not shitty formations that allow for more infiltrating/outflank/ds with charging on the same turn they arrive.

Give orks army wide rule which allows reroll of all failed to hit rolls for one turn per game.

I'm almost done with the Edge Lords omnibus, my first warhammer novel (s).

I was wondering if anyone could recommend what to read next considering I really enjoyed the Night Lords.

Rate my Ork buff.

>Roll two dice on your turn. The result determines how many ork models you should remove from the game. Orks always want to fight something and sometimes they just kill each other for fun.

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God, this is so boring. It doesn't help there's stuff from more than just a couple books to find.

>>52244456
>2d6
>Not 3d6

Do you even GW?

>>52244469
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/
use it motherfucker

>>52244357
Officio Assassinorum, Adeptes Custodes or SoS

So with cadia dead and the meme being that a new guard army will become the post boy what do you guys think of a cadian special squad, something like this

Veteran of cadia
>vet statline
>PE:chaos
>till the last man: veterans of cadia do not take moral tests when their squad size is below 50%

Turn cadia from the vanilla guard to an anti chaos special unit

>>52244456
Why just remove models when you could slow down the game more with random allocated hits with random strenght and random ap?

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>>52244356
Hot-shot lasguns become Assault 2

Sergeants can take HS lasguns

Ten-man squads can take three special weapons

Base Ld increased to 8, 9 for Tempestors, 10 for Tempestor Prime (they're from the same schools as Sisters and Commissars...but Ld 7?)

Make Tempestor Prime roughly equivilent to a Lord Commissar

Unit gets Precision Shots like Skitarii Rangers

Or just take a (big) chunk out of their points cost. Plus their weapon upgrades are ludicrously expensive.

>>52244491
This is probably accurate because rise of the primarch mentions how the custodes are so painfully woke they just ignore most of the Galaxy shattering things they hear

>it also has a slight implication they can understand binary, which is pretty cool unless it was an authors mistake

>>52244525
You could cut points by making deep strike a payable upgrade instead of including it in the base cost.

>>52244422
Well, it's not Edge Lords, but if you'd like to see what it's like going Full Chaos, then check out Anthony Reynold's Word Bearers Omnibus. Wonderful read.

>>52244541
They're all over 10k years old so probably enough time to learn a language used on their planet.

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>>52244491
Probably the SoS.

When various Imperials file past the Emperor on the Golden Throne in Master of Mankind, everyone sees different shit from a huge golden demi-god, a shining human figure of pure light or a glorious machine-god etc etc

Sisters just saw an ordinary looking man in immense pain due to their null aura.

>>52244485
I know, I have it open, but stuff from like Fall of Cadia (Celestine rules) and Imperial Agents are something I would have to dig around for.

>>52244422
Storm of Iron is good. It's about Iron Warriors besieging an Imperial fortress, with equal screen time for both sides. Good back and forth combat.

ADB (the author you're currently reading) is usually pretty good, though his 30k novels are more polarizing.

A lot of people love the Gaunt's Ghosts books. They're about a light infantry/scouting Imperial Guard regiment. Personally I find the books to be hit and miss, but even I can admit that the better ones are worth reading the lesser ones to get to. Good action, characters, and plots. Usually.

I love the Ciaphas Cain series, though they do tend to follow roughly the same plot for each book. With that in mind, I wouldn't suggest binge reading the whole series.
They're about as far away from the Night Lords books as you can get, however, since they're rather comedic and light-hearted. If you've ever seen Blackadder Season 4, it's a lot like that. But mixed with Flashman.
It's funny, has good characters, an interesting narrative (that tends to get repeated), and is great light reading.

The William King Space Wolf novels are great if you're looking for a swashbuckling adventure.

The best Black Library novels I've read are actually from Warhammer Fantasy: The Ambassador and Ursun's Teeth.
They're legitimately good novels, not just "good for warhammer."

Stay the fuck away from Jonathan Green, the author or Iron Hands. Worst published book I've ever read. Even CS Goto is better.

>>52244573
You can't "learn" binary, it takes specialist implants or a translator device of some kind. My bet is that they have the latter in their armour, since they're meant to be able to protect from subterfuge as well as outright battle, and it's ceratinly fancy enough.

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>>52244582
oh, sorry

>>52244582
...or not, nevermind, FoC is there, as well as SoB codex.

>>52244541
Wouldn't surprise me, the Emperor would know it and since he needed to ally with the Martians, making sure his bodyguards know their supa-sekret language would make sense.

>>52244598
I meant more that they would've found the time to come up with a solution like you mentioned. Whether it's in their armor or a device they have with them or whatever. They've had a long ass time to get any new toys they might need if they didn't already have them

>>52244422
Path of the Dark Eldar is equally edgy in terms of the characters it follows, and pretty well done by Black Library standards.

>>52244557
>You could cut points by making deep strike a payable upgrade

We have that option already, it's called Veterans.

Reminder that until Orks get a decent fluff update they're not getting any decent in game updates.

>>52244320

in the next lines he gets his shit together and crusades to terra to save the imperium.

>>52244620
>>52244573
Like >>52244598 said you can't just learn it like a language, it's thousands of 1s and 0s a second if not more, they would have to have special translators or implants

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What's fluffy for Blood Axes other than Kommandos?

>>52244701
>Decent fluff
>For an NPC race

>>52244728
Gun lines.

>>52244728
Paint them purple because purple iz sneeky

>>52244725
>they would have to have special translators or implants

And? They're the Custodes, if they need a DAoT translator implant to crack Martian codes, they get a DAoT translator implant.

>>52244728
If they released new models without the stupid gorilla posture, I'd build an army of Ork jungle fighters in an instant.

>>52244422

If you want to watch the Edge Lords get BTFO (and also kill a lot of loyalists) then the Rid Tithe book was alright, fairly short, and featured them as the main antagonists.

>>52244581
Wait the Emperor is in constant pain around sisters? I figured he'd be too swoll psychically to even mind them, hell didn't malcador use his powers around a group of them seemingly effortlessly or was that imperial propaganda?

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>>52244771
>not using the current metal ones

Nigger they're literally some of the best looking ork models ever released.

>>52244277
can regular space wolves use the relics in the supplement champions of fenris?

>>52244800

I think it means the sisters see him for what he really looks like because they are immun to his psychic aura (or something like that)

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>>52244813
and that fucking burna boy

A guy I met (and had a fun game with) at my local GW gave me is spare Voldus sprue.

I wasn't prepared

How should I thank him

>>52239517

Bumpin'

>>52244800
No, he was in pain keeping the Imperial Webway sealed via the Golden Throne after Magnus fucked it up.

>>52244813
those are fiiiine

but they are so expensive.

>>52244822
Based gimp ork

>>52244728
Stormboyz, they're organized, young, and rebellious Orks who're likely to grow up into Kommandos.

Dunno what else though, I don't play Orks.

>>52244827
Just give him a friendly blowjob next time you see him.

>>52244835
>b-but Magnus dindu nuffin and he's gonna turn loyalist again because TTS is canon!!

>>52244813
>Metal
>Monopose
>In a horde army

Just no.

>>52244813
They're finecast now.

>>52244851
kek

>>52244868
green stuff to conceal it a little?

>>52244800
Sorry, I wrote that in a retarded way.

He wasn't in pain because of their null aura, their null aura allowed them to see him as he actually is, since they weren't effected by his psychic glamour.

He was in pain because the four gods of Chaos and their collective legions were trying to gain entry to the Imperial dungeons via the massive goatse reference Magnus had turned the Imperial webway project into with his """"warning""""".

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>>52244868
>>52244836
Well, there's always the Forgeworld conversion kit, but personally, I think they look fucking awful

>>52244818
If you make it a champions of Fenris "detachment" then yes
I'm not any where near the book rigjt now so I'm not sure if they have access to both sets though

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Are Orks and Nids shitty in general or are they catching up other factions in alternate game formats like kill team or small-point games?

>>52244916
Those look like shitty third party "space orc special forces"

>>52244906
Still metal.

New Ork plastics and I'd play them immediately, regardless of how shitty their codex is.

I'd paint and convert the whole lot to be every 'Nam cliche I could think of.

But I refuse to deal with metals or fineshit anymore.

I just hope they don't turn Orks in the heavily-armoured shit Age of Sigmar currently has.

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I'm trying to build up an IF army, and want to reuse as many models as I can as I do so.

I made a progressive collection of army lists from 1000 to 1500 to 2000 here : http://m.imgur.com/a/H1at0

What do you guys think? In the 1000 list (pic related), I could swap out the devastators for a dreadnought but I'm not sure.

>>52244925
they are doing kinda better in KT.
And, boyz are less shit the less points the game is played at

>>52244919
thats what im wondering. do i have to use that detachment?

i assume YES since orks cant grab stuff from the supplement in regular armies but thats orks.

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So Big boss in his prime is put in a 10 ft circle with a catachan, both armed with a standard combat knife, who comes out on top?

>>52244925
Alternate formats and other GW games...they're fine. I know orks are like space marines in blood bowl and the hor kill team everybody uses has them fairly well balanced. Waiting to see what sw Armageddon does to them.

In 40k...over costing and underperforming in the current meta is the big problem right now so a lot of tables I play on just give them 10-25% more points to add to their lists.

>>52245004
Sly Marbo

>>52244925
Nids aren't as shit as people say they are. Granted you have to cheese out a flying circus to make them work so they only have 1 viable list but they at least are playable.

Orks on the other hand are unplayable regardless of the format. Even going on extra dickery lenghts like abusing grots size to make them untargetable behind an ADL won't save you from a massive ass beating as an ork player.

Maybe 8th edition will change something about that if they touch how moral and close combat work but for now it's just a dead faction at this point.

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>>52244813
God I remember painting those, they had an astounding amount off small and funny details hidden on them. For example the nob has a dent on his left metal boot, as well as a hole in the bottom of his gun holster, implying he shot himself in the foot because he forgot to put the safety on his slugga.
The sculptor did a fantastic job.

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>>52244916
It's the retarded gorilla pose that ruins it for me.

My favourite depictions of Orks is from Deff Skwadron, where they're broad and their shoulders are hunched, but still stand upright without the stupid twerking pose.

Big ears are a plus for me too, gives their faces more character beyond GIANT TUSKS and reminds me of Gremlins, which fits their fluff well.

Basically I love the Snikrot model; >>52244310 and want the entire Ork range to look more like that.

My design document for a new Ork codex and model range would basically be Deff Skwadron + Kommandos.

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>>52245004
>picture
>big boss

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>>52245038
>the safety
>on his slugga.
>implying

>>52245061
is there a scan of deff skwadron out there?

i havent found one.

>>52244310
Snikrot has a compass on his choppa. Huh.

>>52245061
I would love some new Ork Boyz. The Nob models are great so I know they can make them if they want to.

They just choose to spit in my face.

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>>52245038
>the nob has a dent on his left metal boot, as well as a hole in the bottom of his gun holster, implying he shot himself in the foot

Holy shit, I had to actually look at my model, to confirm this. This is fucking amazing.

And yeah, I agree the guy did a great job, it has to be one of my favourite models.

>>52244277
Did Guilliman really say that?

>>52245128
Everything about that model is done just right.

The Power Klaw, the pose, the stupid grot, the goggles...

Fuck it im buying one.

>>52245064
Shh anon don't tell him

>>52245082
>i havent found one.

>Google 'Deff Skwadron'
>First result

Open wide for the aeroplane!

>http://www.cold-moon.com/40k/Deff%20Skwadron/deff_skwadron.htm

>>52245164
im retarded. i just checked the mega.

thanks anon.

>>52245034
>>52245006
Well, shit. My 3rd and 4th pick are Tau and Necrons so maybe I should stick with one of them. I'm not a WAACfag but making my first steps into hobby with factions nerfed this hard would be pretty disheartening I think

>>52245137


see >>52244711

>>52245192
Necrons are not broken compared to the current meta and they are underwhelming without the decurion so they wouldn't be too bad of an army

Tau gets a lot of hate but their standard gunline shenanigans is good but not OP, they just have a few builds that make them retardedly broken

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>>52245137
Of course not, this is what he really said.

>>52245192
If you really wanted to go for Tyranids, you could try genestealer cults.

>>52245235
I want to have some fun with running a small army in KT and 500pts games and maybe 1000pts some day but probably nothing bigger so I'm not even thinking about breaking the game
>>52245270
I don't really like GSC aesthetic to be honest. The best part of Nids is their dino-alien-bug look

>>52245192
Necrons are fine, they're good for new players too because they're fucking easy to model and paint, and forgiving as hell to play.

Tau aren't inherently WAAC as /40kg/ would have you believe, they're just a favourite of fags who exploit poor balance in their list to go full on WAAC i.e. spamming Riptides because they're under-costed compared to the effect they have on the table.

Like Eldar, it's totally possible to have a Tau army that is fun to play both with and against.

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Does anyone know where I can get the GW Judge Dredd RPG PDFs?

>>52244456

This sounds a bit closer to a real GW rule.

>At the start of each player turn, roll a D6 for every unit with the Ork faction that is not in close combat. Add 1 to this roll if the unit did not shoot, charge or run in the previous turn. On a 5+, the unit automatically suffers a "Squabble" result from the Mob Rule table.

>>52244940
Lascannons instead of grav cannons huh?

When did the Emperor find time to hand-make 10,000 Custodes?

Like, he's a really busy guy. And it says in inferno he had four when he was first spotted, 30 a little later, a few hundred at the end of the unification wars, then ten thousand by the time of the heresy.

And he has to take a personal interest in each one, because the process requires his masterful biomancy to work.

Is this just what he does with all his spare time? Make big gold dudes?

just finished building my first imperial knight

god damn that took a while, my back hurts from leaning over the table.

I didn't read the fluff in gathering storm 3.

I just want to know one thing, did Abaddon died as it was said in previous leaks ?

>>52245411
Would you not spend your spare time making super soldiers when you're on a grand crusade?

>>52245411
>making big gold dudes with your spare time

And you wouldn't do this if you could? Everyone needs a hobby

>>52245446
he doesn't die

>>52245411
"Emprah, I've finished my first thousand points of Wardudes miniatures. Ready to play?"

"Shit Malcador, you never said it was a MINIATURE game! Look at this big golden bastard! Well I'm gonna have to make the rest to match or it'll look stupid."

>>52245411
I dunno about you, but I'd be making 9ft tall gold guys all the time if I could

>>52245447

The Custodes didn't seem to be all that important to most of the crusade from what I've seen. How often were they even deployed on a level more than like, that time a small squad were assigned to babysit Lorgar then the Emperor neglected to execute him for breach of parole once he murdered them?

>>52245348
no sorry anon

>>52245458

I imagine Archmagi having a giant "Hobby hangar" with various half-built stuff and parts everywhere and tool arms on the walls, like a cross between a big assembly bay, a hobby desk and one of those containment things with the gloves. It seems likely enough that someone like Emps might have one too.

>>52245478

>The Emperor and Malcador making Custodes in silly outfits play out life size 40k games

I need this fanfiction in my life.

>>52245498
Just because you have an army doesn't mean you don't need the secret service.

So whats next for 40k end times?

Am I misreading something or can deathwing units NOT use drop pods, only (venerable) dreadnoughts?

should I pre-order the talons of the emperor set?

What's a fun/good GSC formation? At the moment I have only the units from the Deathwatch Overkill box.

>>52245518
What do you think the bloodgames are?

>>52245542

Terminators don't fit in drop pods, but have deep strike. Teleport homers are the termi-specific anti-scatter device.

>>52245555
Do you like gold?

>>52245583
Terminators can totally fit in drop pods. There's no restriction on bulk, and 5 of them can just squeeze in.

There's just usually not much reason to do so since they can deep strike anyway.

>>52245584
Yes but I just realized I can buy the SoS separately and that's really all I want so I'm just gonna get those.

>>52244991
I just looked at the book and it clearly says that models that are a part of any formations or detachments from the book have to use that set of relics instead of the codex relics
Although with the way the 7th Ed allies work you could take a cheap formation for a relic lord and mix him in with the rest of your dudes

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>>52245584

>>52245583
Oh, FUG. Now I'm not so sure on a DSF allied detachment, since they can just get fucked on a mishap and then I threw 500-600 points away for nothing.

>>52245597
Wait, what

>>52245446
He doesn't even appear directly in the book. Those were not leaks but delusions of le armless failbaddon memers.

>>52245555

No, it looks shite for collecting a Custodes or SoS force for 30k, their armies are trash in 40k and it comes with the shitty contemptor nobody likes.

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>>52245628
How do the 3 different SoS squad types stack up against SoB?

>>52245618

>HE HAS NO ARMS
>HE HAS NO SPINE
>THIS WARMASTER NEVER CEASES TO WHINE

>>52245643

There's only two SoS squad types: Swords, and "What the fuck are you doing".

>>52245618
>He doesn't even appear directly in the book

Wait, I thought he managed to siege Terra in that book.

>>52245583
Except termies can use drop pods, don't get fluff confused with crunch

>>52245613
Drop pods don't restrict bulky units.
Termies take up 2 transport slots and drop pods have 10, so 5 termies in a pod.

>>52244728
Buggies are also used for scouting and mobile weapons platforms, while they've no more respect for grots than other Orks they do see the use in small hands, compact size and passable aim.

>>52244862
To be frank, it would propably be him who would be in immense pain on the Golden throne otherwise. The way I see it, he dodged a bullet.

Also, TTS?

>>52245396
Do you mean on the centurions or the devastator marines?

In the 1000 pt list it is because I was trying to squeeze out points

>>52245714
text to speech. a web show about 40k

>>52245714
if empra had text to speech device, watch it, it's not bad

>>52244277
Is there any legit site with lot of black library downloads? Specificaly, im looking for Hero of the imperium and Defender of the imperium, if anyonee has some links for them.

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>>52245644
Based dongposter

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>>52245618
He kinda does

>>52245671
Its indicated that some Chaos warships made it all the way to terra as their wrecks were being cleaned up, but no siege of terra yet.

>>52245726
>>52245724
Oh, I know that one. Just didnt figure out the abbreviation.

Would actually be a fun canon

>>52245737
Kairos is a fag and deserved to be made an errand boy.

Also from the way they wrote the gathering storm it seems like Huron Blackheart is the toughest chaos lord of them all. Guy was more succesful than Abaddon who got his ass kicked 3 times before he just decided to blow up cadia

>>52245560
Anyone?

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>>52245700
>The unit may select a Land Raider, Land Raider Crusader or Land Raider Redeemer as a Dedicated Transport.

In the Deathwing Terminator Squad profile.

And in pic related, there's no mention of Deathwing Termies themselves being able to ride pods.

I am very confused, Alpharius why.

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Does airbrushing actually yield better results and quality or did fall for a fucking $200+ meme

Where do I find the rules the custodes/SoS? I'm looking in the imperial agents book but I'm not seeing them

>>52245809
It's worth it

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Hey, so over in the aos thread we were promised stem dorf. Anything here? Also, what should I do with these? I bought them because I thought they were cute. I've got skaven and daemons

>>52245820
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Datasheets/Burning of Prospero Imperial Datasheets.pdf

>>52245253
I do love how regimental standard is about as canon as anything black library puts out. It's nice to see humour back in 40k

>>52245839
thank you anon

>>52245801
Dedicated Transport =/= Transport Vehicles.

You can buy a Fast Attack Drop Pod and stuff 5 Terminators in it.

>>52245801
You can't with that formation, because you have no fast attack slots, but if you were using a cad, you could use your fa slots for pods and put termies in them.

Termies can't take them as dedicated, but that doesn't mean they can't use them.

>>52245597
With the new different types you can have types of terminators for different roles with different rules
So catpahracti are extra tough, Tartarus have volkite and can other weird weapon combos indomitus (space hulk termi) have in built deep strike and can do th/ss and other stuff

>>52245809
>$200+
yes, for that much money.
A 40 euro lidl air compressor will only save you time, but a 200 dollar one on the internet you'll be able to do all sorts of effects with.

>>52245857
>>52245861
Ah, great! Thanks for clarifying it, guess I'll just use a normal formation or come up with something else.

I still don't understand what happened to Cadia.

Did Abaddon blow it up or did Cawl blow it up on accident?

>>52245809
>Better
Different.
Thinner coats, easier blending.

>>52245831
Alternate blood-hounds? Maybe re-fluffed for tzeenechian mage/psyker-hunters?

>>52245714
Not really - together they could have fixed the webway hole so no more daemons which was the cause of the pain

>>52245831
Awwwwww
The one with the helm looks so bossy

>>52245885
Neither.

The Phalanx warped in, shot the Blackstone Fortress out of the sky, meanwhile Cawl and Trazyn had the Obelisks activated and when the Fortress crashed into the planet, it caused a chain reaction. Similar to shooting a propane tank.

>>52245831
Someone posted a "hounds of Tezench" which only required creative painting.

>>52245913
So it's all Horus' fault?

Would a chaplain and bike squad be better than a chaplain and assault squad in at about 1000 points?

>>52245900
Yeah, I was considering "change hounds" as an option. Another idea I had was mounting nurglings on them as riders and zombifying them. Could also make them look the like a new breed of nid

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>For the Emperor! For the Emperor ! Remember Cadia, Remember Horus Heresy. Death to the xenos.

>>52245809
An airbrush was probably one of my best investments. Save so much time priming and base coating everything. Plus I was finally able to start my Imperial Fists army, b/c trying to hand paint yellow is just plain masochistic (not to mention other difficult colors like white or orange).

I only have a few pages of the 7th edition rules left to read.

I was looking at ordering a set of basic troops for either an undecided CSM warband or Necrons just to try my hand at painting, which is most appealing aspect to me, and because it seems I'll always need some troops.

Should I get Necrons or 1ksons Rubricae because they had recent updates?
I'm worried by the time these things ship out here 8th edition will be out and there will be Fancier units.

>>52245857
Can't units not embark a non-dedicated transport before/during deployment in a new FAQ?

>>52245968
>trying to hand paint yellow is just plain masochistic (not to mention other difficult colors like white or orange).
You prime black?

>>52245884
If you just want termies and dreadnoughts, you could stack 2-3 cads, and have half your army arrive turn 1

What brand/variety of plastic glue do you guys recommend? I've been using loctite super glue on everything, including plastic. I'm sick of things coming apart sometimes.

I live in Texas by the way

>>52245606
I see shit like this that's just so specific, and I wonder: do you people just have enormous repositories of this shit lying around or do you quickly make it and post it?

>>52245991
Really any. Go to some plastic model store or get the GW one

>>52244925
Orks are only viable in smaller games. Anything above 1000 points, you need to start giving the orks a handicap. Like say anything short of space marines but above Nids(no handicap required for nid players lol), you need a 10% handicap. The ork player gets 10% more points to play with, like 1100 points in a 1000 game.

Against Space marines and up, you need a 25% or even 30% handicap, although you probably need to go just a bit higher to 35% if it's tournament space marines.

And for Eldar, orks need a 50% handicap.

I play space marines, and every time I play against orks, I give them a choice of either running the Space 0Din fandex(which bumps orks up the tier-scale to be somewhere on par with non-gladius space marines), or run a 30% handicap. It's not fun for me to mindlessly table orks, and the space 0din 'dex evens things out so I can actually have a challenging game. I don't play competitive lists(my typical army is shitloads of dreadnoughts, scouts, and sternguard vets that aren't in drop pods), but I'm a solid player.

>Cypher gets arrested
fug

my husbando ain't gonna get *BLAM*'d is he??

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>>52245991
Revell plastic glue

Personally I like Army painter super glue.

Can some good anon share Dante?

>>52245973
The final rulebook FAQ said that "units from two different Detachments can embark on each others Transports DURING deployment", so that would assume that you can still board a transport during deployment/in reserves.

>>52245990
I'm the cunt with a SoB CAD and a bit of Deathwing on the side.

Is there a SM leader that makes terminators troop choices?

>>52246020
Is there a specific brand with an easier method of application?

>>52246030
thanks

>>52246025
He flees literally hours later. They even say so on the same page.

>>52246053
The revell one suggested earlier, or any other glue with that needle thing

>>52245885
The black stone he had got blown up by phalanx but in the 10 minutes he had failbaddon fitted engines to the pieces and then flew them into the planet which combined with the stress as the pylons were shrinking the eye destroyed the planet
But wow somehow the necrons who were awake most of the last few millennia didn't activate them

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>>52245991
Use this. You can find it in any hobby store in north America.

>>52246067
Does GW's have the needle thing?

>>52246042
Only Grey Knights and Black Legion have termi troops, but neither can take Drop Pods.

For Tempestus Scion squads to receive in-game orders, is a tempestus command squad required as well?

>>52246054
how the fuck does he keep doing it

he's 8 feet tall covered in loud armor and distinctive robes

>>52246085
they do now.

>>52245498
They're not really a military force, they're personal bodyguards and secret police for Terra.

They're weapons of state, not weapons of war.

>>52246042
Not that I'm aware of.

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>>52246102
>>52246155
Thanks, I just wanted an ally detachment of Termies that wouldn't risk becoming pancakes due to a mishap, I guess the only way that could happen is with Belial, due to Precision Strike rule + Homer, but I heard he's pretty bad.

>>52246020

The only guidelines are to look on it and if it says: "warning: bonds skin - soak skin in acetone and rip off outer layer to fix, do not breathe fumes, do not put in eyes because lol did you read the first warning."

You also have to check for what materials it bonds because something which works wonders on plastics may slide off metal or give a meh bond on resin.

>>52246025
It's happened 10,000 times before.

Escaping impossible situations is basically his 'thing'.

>>52246127
Yes. Though unless you're going to stick them in the abortions that are Tauroxes, trying to deep strike multiple units near enough to receive orders is impossible.

>>52246054
>Disguised as Custardes

>>52245560
Subterranean Uprising is the best they have because it allows 2 rolls on Cult Ambush.

Doting Throng might work better; it lets you re-roll blessings from the Magus.

>>52245991
I just buy GW glue. You use tiny amounts of it anyway and I can buy it in the same place I get my models and know it won't melt them.

How viable or good an idea is it for a primary Tau force to take an allied Seer Council for some psyker support?

>>52245809
I actually have to buy an airbrush because I'm going to be slowly building up enough money for a reaver over the course of the year and I think I'd kill myself to brush paint that

On that note are there any titan owners in this thread? How are they to build and paint? Are they actually fun in apoc?

I run a weekly apoc league with usually about 5000-6000 on each side, I'm just wondering if it's worth basically the price of a totally new army

I already have 2 large armies in happy with but I'm certainly gonna wait until 8th in case I get memed and my units are all made shit or something, any thoughts from titanfags?

>>52245498

No seriously, how the shit did Lorgar get away with killing the Custodes assigned to watch him because he'd been a fuckup?

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>>52246030
>>52245991
>>52246077
Once you go black you never go back.

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Orks or Nids which should i do?

>>52246263
Yo if it ain't LOCTITE, it ain't right.

The bottle alone for loctite is the bomb

>>52246263
>using superglue on plastics
STOP

>>52246274
Whichever you prefer the aesthetic and gameplay style of more. You'll be painting a ton of them.

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>>52246263
>gorilla glue

>>52246274
Neither. Fuck GW.

Unless.

UNLESS, you get second-hand ONLY, & use fandexes to play. GW's in-house cunt made both their books, so they are unfuckingplayable at the moment.

>>52246274
Orks is best!

>>52246249
Same reason Horus got away with betrayal after Magnus warned Emps.

He was pathetically soft/naive concerning the primarchs (unless it involved psychic or religious shit)

>>52245768
>khorne go home!

>>52246282
>Melting the model together
This is the kind of moron who sells his army every year to buy a new one.

>>52246343
what

>>52246355
He means with superglue you can break the bonds and reuse pieces

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When will daddy come home?

>>52246326

Malcador: Sire! Lorgar has killed his parole officers and is hanging around the largest warp rift in the galaxy cackling maniacally! Shall I inform Russ?

Emperor: Nah, I've already punished him once. Doing it again would be really mean.

>>52246367
Can confirm, it also dries much faster. As an ork player superglue changed my life.

>>52246367
unless you're using far too much plastic cement you can do the same thing anyway

>>52246386
I use it on anything I don't feel will be permanent. Also I magnetize like crazy, so I use loctite as much as I do model glue.

>>52246391
I've never tried it

>>52246386
Super glue is superior in every way to plastic glue, Ive got some spare guardsmen that Im gonna break up to make into cultists- couldn't do that if I plastic glued them.

If you think you're never gonna break apart models to do the same, you're a shortsighted moron.

>>52246391
Plastic glue literally fuses the two parts, when you plastic glue two parts together they become one part.

Do you think list list (other than the 1 point over) is better than this >>52244940 one?

Was told bikes are superior

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>>52246431
Forgot image
>inb4 needs more troops

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SoB-DW fag from earlier.

Swapped the Interrogator-Chaplain for Belial so now I can steel rehn more or less effectively.

>>52246428

>If you think you're never gonna break apart models to do the same, you're a shortsighted moron

You're making no damn sense, frankly. I play 15 armies and the only time I've ever broken a part off a completed model was to replace an empty arm on a Necron Lord with one holding a shield.

>>52246402
I don't tend to use magnets on models directly, its expensive to buy small enough magnets, even on bigger stuff like termiators. I like using them on vehicles though. I have 5 Valkyries, and 5 vendettas- but only five models. Ive got a shadowsword and a banehammer, but only one superheavy tank.

Magnetizing vehicle weapons also makes weapon destroyed result much easier to mark.

>>52246495
On small models like tactical marines I use 1 magnet + sheet metal cut down really small.

Makes polarizing easy

Anything bigger I use 2 magnets.

>>52246493
>I play 15 armies
Pfft how long have you been in the hobby? Two years? Get back to me after a decade and your 40th army.

>>52246493
Not the guy replying to, but can I have some of your money pls

>>52246516
40 armies? I am building my first and I already feel broke

>>52246444
>>52246431
WAACfaggotry of the highest order and the reason this game is shit. Oh boy oh boy.

>>52246386

>it also dries much faster

This is straight up a bad thing. If you make a large model from plastic, you can pose the legs by swiftly and deftly gluing them then pulling them into position on the base for an ideal no-fuss pose.

Large forge world model? Hope you like painstaking planning then still being forced to compromise a bit because every joint seals into position as you go along before you can glue the next.

>>52246509
I used to contemplate doing that specifically to add or remove jump packs/standard back packs. I can see doing it on squad sergeants for switching between stuff like power weapons or plasma pistols I guess. Still, I come from a guard perspective so I always imagine what it would be like to do that every game to 200 models and decide to just glue it, instead.

>>52246516

Yeah well the point is that I own enough models to know that "I want to break my models and re-convert them later" is a fucking bizzare sentiment.

>>52246524
I dont desire waac, I am just responding to feedback.

Are bikes OP or something?

>>52246601

Grav bikes certainly are.

So I asked like 2 or 3 threads ago (man these things move fast) but I' getting a Khorne army from a friend for building and painting his Ultramarines.
I'm getting 1 Bloodthirster, 1 daemon prince, 40 bloodletters and the Khorne Daemonkin codex. I've read a bit on the army but I want to build it as a tournament list but I want to know what else I "Should bring"

>>52246621
I wasn't aware, I have the dark vengeance box so I figure I can use those and whatever weapons come on them

Is Grav any less ridiculous on units where it being salvo actually matters?

You know, not bikes, centurions, Kataphrons or Skyhammer Devs.

>>52246631

Those are Ravenwing bikes anon.

>>52246493
>15 armies
What the fuck, Im with >>52246522
I barely can afford a single kit at the end of the month after bills and food, dudes gotta be rich as fuck with unlimited funds where he has the liberty to just go buy a new model whenever he wants. In which case of course he's never had to break apart models, dude just goes and buys new ones instead.

>>52244581

>more fat ugly sisters

so progressive

>>52246644
Im aware they will just be proxies until I can afford some regular ones, or are they different base sizes?

Either way I have an assault squad I can use for now

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How is this for a 1250 pt list? It's my first list

>>52246580
You're either new to the hobby or have unlimited funds, the rest of us do not have the liberty to go buy a new model every time we want one.

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/40kg/ pleease spoon feed me on this. Would this be a valid list for a 1500 game in normal 40k? I'm trying to go for a White Consuls army with a small contingent of spess men leading PDF/Guard forces. I stopped playing at the end of 3rd ED.

>>52246634
It would be, though the problem is that those units are a major part of the units able to move it anyway.

>>52246630
Bloodthirster and 40 bloodletters is really solid, thats your army core right there. Might wanna get a few heralds. Where you expand from there is up to you, I think youd need some anti-armor with that list so Id suggest a soulgrinder. You could buy a squad of berserkers and take them with the demon prince as CSM allies as well.

>>52246665

Dude I've been in this hobby almost 20 years, and whilst stripping second hand shit other people make for parts is certainly a thing (Only did it once myself, but I got a sweet Triarch Stalker conversion out of it) I have never heard of people habitually breaking down and remodelling their models to play a new army.

And for fucks sake, it's not -that- much to buy an army over a year or so. Maybe £400 or so unless you go totally nuts.

>>52245128
Model is what made me run Blood Axes

>>52246734
You've never broken off a meltagun and traded it for a plasmagun?
You're a moron.

Would you guys like it if the C'tan were retconned into being as powerful as the Chaos Gods in the 8th edition?

>>52245128
why can't Orks be fluffy as in "my army gives no fucks"

instead they're fucking SHIT

>>52246630
soulgrinders

>>52244868
As opposed to the current boyz modles. I'm grateful that they included nobz in the boyz kit, but the metal Kommando models are in the running for GOAT 3rd ed era models.

>>52246768
no fuck that

>>52246724
I've heard good things about a lord with the goredrinker and a powersword on a juggernaught in the Bloodtide formation (hanging out in a unit with a bunch of fleshhounds)

How about these on bolter / sniper scouts ?
http://anvilindustry.co.uk/Regiments/Infantry-Heads-Helmets/ops-core-full-face-heads

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>>52245999
Do you live like a fucking animal and google search your reaction image like some sort of hobo?

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>>52246656
I'll go ahead and take your b8

It's clear you haven't even seen a SoS model. They are super model levels of proportions, I actually think they look a bit unrealistic, of course this is 40k so most things are

>>52246804
YOUR

DUDES

>>52246767

I magnetise that shit where it's relevant, and even when I did swap out a Necron lord's arm that one time it wasn't any harder for having used plastic glue.

It admittedly probably helps that I don't play marines beyond a gimmick all-dreadnought list though. Other armies tend to just have two options to pick between.

>>52246792
Juggernaut lords are good, Juggernauts alltogether are good, if you wanted to get a juggernaut lord and them some other juggernaut riders that'd be a great way to go. Even if you dont end up using them in that formation, they're good khorne units. Fleshhounds could be a good addition too. Really, Id try to get my hands on a soulgrinder or two first though.

>>52246790
why not

>>52246249
Read first heretic
They had a psyker torture chamber where they bound tortured astropath souls to create interference so the custodes reports never got out
Then they claimed they all died fighting something else
Remember astro messaging is unreliable especially when it's far away which is where they stayed

>>52246839
I have an unpainted one sitting around from my Slaaneshi daemons army, so I could always include that in the list I suppose. I never used the damn thing though....not sure why.

>>52245999
>doesn't have a repository of 1000 reaction images and doesn't constantly screencap and steal shit to use as reaction pics

I want the normies to leave and I want a sovereign ethnically pure kekistani nation

>>52246844

>Then they claimed they all died fighting something else

Uh, my parole officer tripped down the stairs and broke his neck officer.

Seriously, that is an active plothole. Nobody would fall for "I know you nearly inflicted damnatio memoriae on my entire legion them assigned some guys to watch my back, but they just kinda died I guess".

>>52246877
>plot holes?
>in my Christian lore?

>>52246825
I play IG, Marines, IQ, Renengades, and CSM. All of those armies have interchangeable parts. Ive also broken apart my old fantasy armies to add them to my armies. I admit that I havent done it nearly as much to my eldar, but Ive had to tear off dire avenger exarch arms to switch up wargear.

>>52244348
Take it easy, I'll have the whole Codex posted up in a couple of days. We've had like three threads on this.

>>52128174

>>52246877
>Seriously, that is an active plothole.
blame black library for that

>>52246856
Looking to get rid of those Slaaneshi demons anon? I ditched my Khorne army when I went Slaanesh, flirt with two gods and get spawned by both.

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>>52246917
>he doesn't worship every faction of chaos equally

>>52246877
Read the book
Yes plot holes but that's adb shit writing

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>>52246950
>He isn't a monogod puritan an whores himself out to whatever demon tells him he's pretty
Slut.

>>52246917
Negative, My slaanesh army will always carry a special place in my heart. I just don't pull it out as often any more. I actually want to build this Khorne army to try and kickstart my interest in playing tournaments of 40k again, give my buddy a cool army to fight against his cool army, and work on some things I'm not super great at painting like lighting effects.

>>52246961

I have read the book.

Beyond the plot hole my biggest comment would be that it seemed vaguely like there was some kind of attempt to make Lorgar sympathetic, but it fell utterly flat. Even whilst acting his most benevolent, his actions were completely ego-driven and self serving.

>>52246647

>being hostile to the guy because he has a real job and can afford to buy stupid overpriced plastic

Stop being poor. An 1850 point army is usually <$700, you should be able to buy one every month. If you can't it's because you need to try harder at life. I say this for your own benefit.

>>52246983

>slut
Oh, you should really see him on Slanesh day dohohoho.

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rate

>>52246996
That's what I love about a thousand sons, from the thousand sons perspective they are good guys, but it's clear they were already on a bad path and magnuses arogance caught up to him, I think of it like this

Book one
>the thousand sons can do nothing wrong!

Book two
>the thousand sons did nothing wrong!

Book three
>oh god the thousand sons did everything wrong!

>>52245137
yes. He didn't actually say it to anyone though, just to a depiction of the Emperor as a god. He's pretending everything is A-OK since he doesn't want the Imperium to collapse in on itself after finding out that their existence would be a complete disgrace to Big E.

>>52246580
Just last weekend I sat down bored, looked at my tau commander and thought "you know what would be fucking cool? If i made him a fusion blades conversion."
So I sat down, got out my penknife and bitz box and did just that. Didn't have to go out and but a new kit for my conversion, and couldn't have afforded to if I did want to. Just did it, because superglue.

>>52246999
Damn dude, you're on a board for table top games, are you really so insecure you have to brag about how much money you make and where it goes any chance you get?

I'm really curious about your penis length, I'm guessing with all that compensation it's not favorable

>nice trips tho

Do you personally identify yourself with your (main) army? What fluff aspects of your army do you like the most?

>>52247053

That's weird, my tau commander has magnets on her wrists.

>>52247073
>Do you personally identify yourself with your (main) army?
I don't understand. Do I believe I'm actually a space wizard? No, I'm not insane

>What fluff aspects of your army do you like the most?
Space wizards with an egyptian motif. Pardon my erection

>>52246950
>implying undivided cucks don't end up exiled from the big four Pantheon as gargoyles
>implying the gods care about undecided
Stop fooling yourselves

>>52247053
>>52247085

Also that aside, plastic glue would not have made much of a difference there. You might have to damage the guns a bit more taking them off, but it'd still be entirely doable.

>>52247073
My army
>guard
Yes because they are just dudes fighting against inhuman monstrosities which is cool since I'm just a dude
>favorite fluff
They make up for the fact they are squishy umies by being deployed in the billions and dropping badly aimed high strength ordinance from vehicals so heavily armoured they can barely move

>>52247108
thousand sons?

>>52247073
I mutilate my dick and launch piercing REEEEES all day

T. Emperors children

>>52245991
Brand doesn't matter much. It's just important that you have both plastic cement and super glue.

>>52247030

Honestly it's less Magnus's arrogance and more Tzeentch's Tzeentchness.

He certainly did make a few major fuckups though. Most notably his "I'm going to go sulk and wait for death" phase.

What's up /tg/!
Just back back from my first tournament. It was meant to be casual and it was at 1250 points; I think I heard someone there call it a soft tourney (as opposed to hardcore). I brought my Orks.

It was a blast! There were 6 other Ork players and about 18 total. I was able to fight two other armies I've never fought before (Necron, Ork mirror, then Salamanders) and even though I got the tar beaten out of me I had a ton of fun. There was a $10 entry fee but the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and last all got there money back (I was last) and everyone that participated got 20% off that day. I was able to pick up the tactical+drop pod box and a box of assault marines.

10/10 would go again.

>>52246983
>>52247109
So is undivided the "liberal cucks" and factioned chaos /pol/?

I feel like undivided is more centrist which means all sides hate on them

>>52244277
Do you think Gulliman will ever get told to get over his bitching by Dante? Dude's a thousand years older than Gulliman (Gulliman's only been awake for 200 or cumulative years), and has been through probably even worse shit that big G.

Where can I buy the plastic Deffkoptas, anons? I need them.

>>52246813
i mean they're basically elite soldiers and train all day, of course they're fit

>>52247154
Near the end he was all "no one knows the warp better than me even my dad!" Even when he knew he was getting played by that gay snake

So I haven't been paying much attention to the lore. Now that Guilliman is awake, what is he going to do? Sort the Imperium out?

>>52247189

If you're in the UK, GAME is selling them in battle for vedros kits for some reason.

>>52246477
>shooty terminators
>in a deathwing detachment

>>52247169
Hardcore tourneys have their place in 40k but this is what local store tourneys should be like, sounds like you've found a good community anon, glad you weren't discouraged by some WAACfag who was just there to make people cry with his grey tide of jetbikes

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>>52247144
Yes

Waiting for this, currently

>>52247214
>tfw in US
Sadness.

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>>52244378

>>52247208

Unrealistically sort the imperium out.

As in, unless there's a couple centuries timeskip, I guarantee you his changes will happen at a literally impossible rate and people will justify it with "He's a Primarch they are magical and don't need to explain anything".

>>52247197
Yeah but they also have disproportionately long legs and stuff like that, but once again it is 40k and most things are weird "hero" proportions

>>52247232
those fucking contemptor drednoughts are the ugliest fucking things ever

>>52247252
>found the guy who got put in a boxnaught

>>52247243
So like, does he outrank everyone except for the emperor? whats the source of his political power?

>>52247154
>Honestly it's less Magnus's arrogance and more Tzeentch's Tzeentchness.
No, it did was Magnus arrogance and hubris, other psyker institutions knew of the corrupting effects of the warp, specially navigators since they end up as mutants the last of their days hidden, Magnus was know for the abuse of this powers and did had access to the fate of many worlds that survived because they kept the psyker stuff down while the less cautious planet had to be either purged or were sent back to stone age.

>>52247232

Ffffuck am I sad that the 40k sons don't get nice things like that.

>>52247252

>I have no taste and I have to share that with the world for some reason

>>52246992
Slaanesh is my favorite chaos god, so I understand. Got a mark of Slaanesh on my butt, thats how much I love Slaanesh. Mixing gods feels wrong to me and always has. My Khornate fantasy army was monogod as well.

>>52247261
At least the boxnoughts look like big ass robots, the contemptors just look like fat dude in armor

>>52247214
Do you know where in the US I could get them?

>>52247179
It isn't too far from the truth, many legions kept great resentment towards the undecided legion, it's mentioned in the ABadaba bool

>>52247270

What?

Look, merely using the warp isn't the issue, there are plenty of high end psykers around who aren't chaos. Hell, the Emperor and Malcador.

His biggest problem is he spoke to big bird. Arrogance helped, but he coulda kept on being the Psyker legion just fine otherwise.

>>52247277
I never mix Chaos Armies as well if that makes you feel better about it, I've got a Nurgle Blightkings army for sigmar, Slaanesh daemons (as well as marines but they are soaking in simplegreen), and now Khorne Daemonkin


So, what is the current idea of how to deal with Rawbutt Girlyman?
I'm tempted to bring a LoW myself considering my buddy is gonna bring the Ultrasmurfs boyscout.

>>52247179
I love the Red Corsairs, but they're renegades who affiliate with chaos out of utility.

>>52247189
Convert bikes into grav bikes and fuck with loyalist as you prove your superior teknorklogy

>>52247284

Did my previous post sound like I live in flagland?

>>52247179
The gods care not for the Black Legion for they are the Undecided, and do not truly worshiper, whereas the gods reward the Word Bearers, as they are Undivided, and were the first to listen to The Truth, and spread it's word.

>>52247026
tabled in 3 turns by literally any army.

>>52247329
Nah, I was just hoping you'd know. GW doesn't sell them on their site, which is annoying.

>>52247073
>Do you personally identify yourself with your (main) army?

Seeing as how I'm not an insane, self-serving degenerate who lurches from one sensation to the next, I would say no.

However, I do have a soft spot for "tragic villains," like the Emperors Children - they tried so hard to be good that they fell head-first over the edge into insanity.

>>52247372
how do you know that you are not insane?

>>52247314
In the "wolf blade" book is revealed that navigators turn into mutants at the end of their service, then they return to their dinasty main house catacombs and live the rest of their days in seclusion to hide their mutations.

>>52247391
are navigators treated as badly as other mutants?

>>52247404
No because the imperium needs them so they are treated like nobility and all their weird inbreeding and mutation is ignored

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>>52247390
Well, Slaanesh tells me I'm perfectly normal. Does that sound like something Slaanesh would tell a crazy person?

>>52247391

>Revealed

That's been navigator lore since rogue trader days.

And that's because navigators -are- mutants, they even inbreed to keep their mutant genes strong so they can keep their special third eye working.

And heck strictly speaking elder navigators aren't hurting anyone. It's just hardline imperial policies that mean they need to keep it under wraps.

>>52247404
They did hide it because of the wide imperium stance towards mutants, the Lord's of Terra do know of this and do know they're sanctioned, none the less they're tolerated, not accepted

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>>52247322
It just doesn't feel right to mix gods. Slaanesh is by far my favorite, my fantasy warriors only ended up Khorne because I made the mistake of painting them red and gold. Id say they weren't khornate, and Id get corrected. I just gave in and made the army mono-khorne eventually. He's my 2nd favorite chaos god anyways I cared little.

Didnt make the same mistake with my bright pink 40k chaos army.
Also wait for Fulgrim to come out, he killed Girlyman once, he can do it again. In fact, I wouldnt at all shocked if following Girlyman killing Abby, GS4 comes out and has Fulgrim kill Girlyman. Would definetly stop any sort of revolution within in the Imperium and keep the story nice and stagnant, especially now that guillimarines have been debunked it seems possible.

On the tabletop though it depends if they make him 2+ or 3+. Im guessing 2+, so a combination of meltaguns and daemonettes. If he's only a 3+ though Ill bring the noise with some str9 rending blastmasters.

>>52247404
Navigators are sorta left to their own devices, and go NORMIES REEEEEEEEEEEEE when other people try to enter their special chambers aboard their ships. They're essentially the average fa/tg/uy.

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>>52247073
Yes.
Passion, beauty, art, self indulgence, drugs, music, hedonism, perfection.

With the Traitor Legions supplement, can I use a given formation as my primary detachment, or must I include it within an overarching detachment? For example, not being able to take The Chosen of Abadon as a detachment, but instead having to use it within the Speartip detachment.

>>52247458
I was meaning for the Daemonkin, my slaanesh army kills shit dead the same way every time, drowning them in so many attacks they can't escape combat.

>>52247453
Exactly, the corrupting effects of the warp are well known and cases of possession do happen, Commissars are trained to quickly recognize if the sanctioned psyker are going haywire due their powers and euthanize them before they do some major damage or explode into daemons.

>>52247404
They are constantly fellated by charter houses, sector lords, the imperial navy, own their own fleets and armies, and each house has a massive city sized dynastic palace on Terra from which they try to backstab each other and control space travel in the imperium.

So not really.

Space Marines have two progenoid glands, one harvested after becoming a marine and the other when they die. Is it possible for one marine to meet another made with his progenoid? Would they be like brothers, or father and son?