Warhammer 40k General - /40kg/

First post for Yvraine the New queen of the IoM

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>reposting from end of last thread

Any Guard players got any thoughts on improving this list for 2000 points?
Versus mainly Craftworld Eldar and Tau.

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Anyone ever used the Zone Mortalis rules in 40k? How did it go?

Bumping because new thread
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>>52239354

Any early Codex Custard leaks?

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>>52239308
What do we make of the list?

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Bringing this to a local friendly tourney.

I wanted to make something fluffy yet relatively strong.

What do you think ?

I want to start a Sister Army.

What codices should I get?

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>>52239522
Wait until they get a codex with their new plastics later this year.

>>52239360
I mean yhea, that's a lot of flamers but what are you hoping to kill besides orks with this thing ?

Any proper gunline or mechanized army just rolls over your list. As IG, you need long range or you will get crushed.

I would can the entire Fast Attack slots for one more Wyvern and a couple of Manticores or Basilisks.

I would lose the Platoon entierly and upgrade these vets Chimeras into Valkyries too, and lose the Heavy Flamer on that melta squad, it serves no purpose.

You should have enought points left to get yourself another Leman russ too.

If you REALLY want to play blob guards with mortars and shit then try a Krieg list. But be aware, that shit costs a lot of money and your turns will last half an hour.

>>52239522
imperial agents. if you want to use the new celestine just print out the rules for her from the fall of cadia book we got uploaded in the OP

>>52239466
Why bother with a command squad when you could take one more biker squad and mount your HQ on bike instead ?

>>52239369
Use Battlescribe or at least try to format your stuff correctly.

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I decided to not go to a tournament today in order to sit and paint my Imperial Fists.

Any suggestions for how I can fluff my army fighting other loyalist space marines in the future? So far I've had them fight Space Wolves overtaken by the Wulfen curse and Dark Angels for a cache of geneseed secrets written by a Fallen Angel. Also, here's a picture of my Grey Knights.

why the fuck did they cast veridyan in resin

holy fuck i hate resin

>>52239667
>Any suggestions for how I can fluff my army fighting other loyalist space marines in the future?
They found that Ynnari resurrected Guilliman and declared him traitor.

So any of you use any AOS things to proxy stuff in 40k? Besides chaos things of course.

>>52239844
I use Stormcast Eternals for TH/SS Terminators.

>>52239522
Imperial Agents. DO NOT waste your money on the SoB e-book codex. Absolute trash.

>>52239308
21th for fuck GW

PLEASE drawme a fa/tg/uy!

>>52239647
Sorry but BattleScripe is too spacious imo. I'll work on the formatting tho, thanks

>>52239667
Don't do IF, paint them as Marines Malevolent. Problem solved.

>>52239824
Nah, thats gay as fuck

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>>52240006

>>52240065
He's talking about his gray Knights anon

>>52239552
>said anon every year

>>52240080
You asked for Marine on marine, that's by definition gay.

>>52240108
>posted my question in the old thread
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>>52240130
MAGNETS

>>52240130
>>52240140
>EVER taking the Phosphor Serpenta

Just glue the macrostubber down with the strongest adhesive you have, you will never need to take it off.

>>52239917
There is only one thing good in the 6e Codex and those are the non FoC priest.

>>52240170
That's a shame, the serpenta is so A E S T H E T I C

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How fucked is the Ork player?

The Mystic are Psykers from the Inquisition Codex
The DCA and Crusaders are in the same squad since they are Henchmen.

Repressor are Repressors that is a nice surprise, still having the shitty IA separated units instead of the glorious single unit from Inquisition

>>52240233
>How fucked is the Ork player

He plays Orks. This alone should answer your question.

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New boyz models when? I want to start running an Ork army but gorilla-butts look like a shit

Any of you gits got the new Codexes for the two new 40K factions?

>>52240209

>>52240287
nah anon, orkz are sexy, though their spines are kinda scari

>>52240310
oi the boys got that dakka in the trunk

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Alright, I got this so far, total would be 1750.

Questions from a beginner:

1) Is this even a legal list, so far?

2) If so, how fucked am I? I'd play it online, no need to be a WAAC army, just want to have fun and not lose every single match ever.

Obs: Uriah would deploy with the meltacunts in the metal box. Interrogator deep strikes with one of the terminator formations.

3) What toys should I kit the Interrogator with?

4) Wat add or remove to make it okay?

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Reposting from last thread:
Looking to sell some models. USA only. Most of this is NIB with the following exceptions:
-The Dark Eldar Wyches, Warriors, and one Raider are open but complete
-The Dark Eldar incubi are partially build but complete
-The Eldar Cloudstrike Squadron (the 3-Falcons box from Apocalypse) is open and one model partially built
-One Catachan battleforce is open and missing a few pieces (used in a Cadian/Catachan kitbash from half a decade ago), but the other is unopened.
-The Leman Russ is open but looks complete.

The Cadian boxes are all of the older 20-count packaging, NOT the current 10-man format.
I'm not sure I'm willing to get rid of the Russ or Chimera as I could still use them.

Shoot me an email at
[email protected]
if you are interested.
Prices negotiable.

>>52240287
>>52240353

how you end up with that semi-random ass shit. you some store that went out of business?

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>>52240360
You missed something

>>52240317
gross, orkz are pure(well, mentally pure) and "noble" race. Or bunch of man-children getting excited over basic shit

>>52240321
Why do you have flamers on 2 units that are walking around?

Alos why Jacob? The bastard is only useful with a melee unit like any priest. If you want the stubborn just get a normal priest for much cheaper.

Ork Buff
>We da best! - Give your army fearless for one turn. When your turn is over, you lose the game.

>>52240452
kiek

>>52240353
Emailed

I thought of a way to buff horde armies like Nids and Orks through a global rule :

>The turn an unit makes an assault, if this unit is locked in combat with another unit counting less models, then each model of the assaulting unit gains +1A. If the assaulting unit counts twice as much models or more, each model of that unit also gains +1S.

just got back from my local GW

dude that owns the store is saying there are very significant rumblings, basically confirmed, of plastic sisters coming down the pipe this summer or possibly winter at the latest. Veridyan sold way better than they were expecting.

get hype bros.

>>52240188

Elite command squads say you're fucking wrong.

Also, having a priest as a legit HQ is a nerf because before you could take up to 5 priests whereas now you're limited to 2 and have no other HQs. However, you can ally a priest I suppose with its solo formation.

>>52239522

They have 2 official codexes, both of which are legal. The 6th Ed Adeptas Sororitas Codex has rules for old Celestine and more priests with a proper henchmen squad. Imperial Agents is mostly the same except Command Squads are elite, which is awesome, Rhinos and Immolators are solo FA options, and the henchmen have been split into solo squads.

There are 3 formations in IA:

>Priest Delegation
Literally a priest and up to one elite. This give Shield of Faith to the formation.

>Vestal Task Force
Alternate CAD that requires HQ, 2 Troops, 1 Elite. Instead of ObSec troops, once per game, you get to reroll all saving throws of 1 until your next turn. It's shitty.

>Ecclesiarchy Battle Conclave
3-10 units of henchmen and a priest that all form one mega blob and have Shield of Faith.

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Wanted something for a bit of fun with the lads.

Would you operate with this list?

>>52240556
anon, you have a better chance of hurting yourself today then plastic sisters coming out

So I'm thinking of getting back into warhammer and rebuilding my Tau collection. Is Tau basically just entirely Battlesuit spam? Because thats literally every list I see, and I never see any gunline tau with vehicle support.

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>>52240432
I was thinking about some anti-blob measures, but you're right, it's kind of pointless if they don't have the mobility for flamers anyway.

And I heard he was bretty gud, but okay I changed it for a priest who still lets me reroll hymns and acts of faith thanks to his litanies and costs a lot less.

More suggestions?

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Should I do 30k Raven Guard or 40k?

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new space marine with mk.XIII?

Image from Space Marine Heroes Collection

>>52240592

Mechanised Tau are a list I've always wanted to try. Carbines would be fun against non-fearless armies.
Suit spam is brainless point-and-click play that gets shut down when markerlights start dying.

Dante book epub anyone?

>>52240683
Exactly why I don't want to play Suit spam. From my recollection gunline benefits from markerlights and can generally shit out more of them, but doesn't immediately become useless once they die off. Its easier to protect your markers too.

Anyone, please correct me if I'm completely off in my recollection.

>>52240562
I said 6e you twat.
Non FoC priest is the best thing

IA has elite Command squad, with Castellans they are HQ. You can have a squad as your HQ no idea why but you can.

>>52240602
Priest are good and Jacob is good, but they are not very good outside of Melee squad or squads that you know they are getting assaulted. (IG blobs for tarpiting, priest are awesome there)

Veterans are a hit or miss. Most of the time they are not worth it. You can give them a Storm Bolter for extra 24" dakka.

>>52240638
30k in beaky armor.
You can count them as 40k if you want, too.
A few 40k kits to round it off, be alright.

>>52240556
>dude that owns the store is saying there are very significant rumblings, basically confirmed, of plastic sisters coming down the pipe this summer or possibly winter at the latest
Store owners don't hear anything that far out, like ever.

If this is "basically confirmed" point to a rumour-monger with a successful record who can verify, because those guys hear stuff like this way before the redshirts.

>>52240556
>more sisters soon! For reals!

Until I see the official statement from GW, believing SoB rumors is retarded. It's Deldar all over again.

>>52240321
>Questions from a beginner:
>1) Is this even a legal list, so far?
Yes
>2) If so, how fucked am I? I'd play it online, no need to be a WAAC army, just want to have fun and not lose every single match ever.
I can't speak for the Deathwing portion, but the sisters side is getting you nowhere. The biggest problem is the troops not having a transport. If you can't get immolators, get rhinos.

>Obs: Uriah would deploy with the meltacunts in the metal box. Interrogator deep strikes with one of the terminator formations.
You have a priest, I'm sure this is a mistake. Uriah shouldn't be with a suicide unit, which is what melta doms are. He isn't needed, really.

>4) Wat add or remove to make it okay?
You need a transport for those troops, and you don't need or want the extra body. Keep them at 5 because there is no benefit. They're cheap enough that even if you go to 10, you might as well take another unit for more weapons.

>>52240602
>pretty good
Jacobus is a meme from 5th edition when they changed how faith worked. You don't need a priest by any stretch of the imagination. If you really want to reroll faith, pay 10pts for loud Hailers on your tanks.

Speaking of, your troops still have no ride. Changing them to SB/HB makes them tax units. If that's how you want them, don't expect them to accomplish anything but sitting on an objective and dying.

>>52240681
I really hope they don't add that collar to all the new sets of armor. I hate painting faces around that thing.

>>52240713
>>52240740
Thank you for the feedback, back to the drawing table here.

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Planning a 1500 pts Raptors army for some casual fightning versus a broad range of armies. Thoughts?

Issodon is Warlord and gains Master of Ambush. This'll let me infiltrate EVERY non-vehicle unit.

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Alright, how would you guys round out/fix this list?

>>52240745
It's happening, see the Guillimarine leak.

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Reminder: Eldar are the most powerful race in the galaxy.

>>52240777
>most powerful race
>still no Exodite Eldar codex

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>>52240745
Why paint faces in the first place?

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>>52240777
too smug for their own good

>>52240817
>>52240745
but if you don't do skin then how will you ever get good?

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>>52240817
First page of Codex Astartes: Always wear your helmet.

>>52240753

You don't really need to go back to the drawing table. Celestine, 2 HF/F troops in rhinos, melta doms in an immolator, and 2 exorcists is a solid starting point for sisters. Rhinos aren't ideal because immolators are a cheap upgrade, but they're still fine. If you want to reroll faith, Loud Hailers are 10pt vehicle upgrade that lets everything within 12" reroll failed tests. You can take 3 them for the price if a naked priest and will do a lot more for faith.

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>>52240849
Glorious he is.

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>>52240848
By following the word of Duncan and believing.

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I love Black Library.

>>52239308
Hey /40kg/, newbie here. Hope I can asks some questions:

What's the difference withing Skitarii and Adeptus Mechanicus Codex? Can I just get the Skitarii one or is the other one important too?

I understand they are just a branch of the A.M. , but are they anything else lore-wise?

>>52240566
Shamelessly self bumping for advice.

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>>52240865
Definitely some of my favourite art in this book

>>52240887
The two codices have entirely separate lists. They're built to be allied together, but work perfectly fine separately. If you just pick up the Skitarii side, you'll be fine; same with the Cult side.

>>52240681
Nigga that's just an Ultramarine in MkVIII.

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>>52240901

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>>52240919
kys

>>52240905
Lovely, Danke.
Really like the aesthetics and lore, now my only worry is me fucking up the painting process, they seem hard.

How's this Ork KT list I made for fun?

Blood Axes Kill Team, 200

Elites
-Kommandos, 50
+Boss Nob, 10
+Power Klaw, 25

(Does not take space on Force Org Chart)
-Boss Snikrot, 60

Fast Attack
-Stormboyz, 45
+Boss Nob, 10

200 poimts

>>52240556

>just got back from my local gas station, dude says major rumblings up top, expect fission powered dildos, get hyped everyone

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20 points left over, anything particular I could still add ? I'm a bit worried about flyers but perhaps the gatling gun will cut it.

>>52239308

As if a Sisters' underwear would be that clean...

>>52240883

Kek

That being said, I'm legitimately thinking about adding some SoS to my sisters army. I have my squad from BoP, but I do want more. I just wish I could start embarked inside something.

>>52240919
nope blackpack and front plate is mark 8

>>52240716
>>52240638

Any good books about the Raven Guard? I know they got shit on at the Dropsite Massacre but know nothing really about their lore

>>52240940
>>52241011
>tfw anons don't know that VIII is 8

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Help with my DKOK assault brigade list? Should i drop something and include earthshakers? Thanks. Im very new to the hobby apart from painting them, so any advice is appreciated.

Hey guys, I'm new to all of this. I'm building my Imperial Guard army right now and I bought the "Start Collecting" pack and I'm not sure how I should put together my Cadian Heavy Weapon Team. Of the options I'm given (Lascannon, Heavy Bolter, Missile Launcher, Autocannon, Mortar), is there one I should absolutely pick or avoid?

>>52240900
>>52240566

I'm going to assume most power weapons are swords.
Storm shield and any power weapon is a shitty combo. Take a Lightning claw or a power fist instead.
10 man veteran units are a huge target for anti-MEQ units, which have no shortage in this meta. Split em up as best you can.
Put 4 frag cannons in a drop pod and 3 meltas + shotgun guy in the other pod.
Leave the stalker bolter unit to camp an objective and put wounds on high toughness units.
The bolter unit should also camp some midfield objective.
Give your vanguard vets lightning claws instead as your not benefiting from the 2 CCW bonus.
Your Valkyrie is better off with rocket pods and a Multilaser.
I don't like that people use the old inquisitor *just* for servo skulls. What power are you hoping to get with a single mastery level?

>>52239552
Said every delusional sisters fan every year for the last 17 years.

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>>52240777
>Aeldari
lmao

>>52241005
>Sisters and Sisters working together
I believe whole-heartedly that they should be AoC with SoB, seeing as SoB are major church influenced and intolerant of non-believers, whereas the SoS are atheist.

>>52241034
Autocannon is always good.

anyone have a link to a mega folder or something where i can download the Dante novel?

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>>52240883
>>52241005
Month 4. They still didn't noticed.

How well does the Archeron handle on its own? Mulling over putting one in my infantry-based skitt/mech army, and I've no experience with FW knights.

>>52240919
Currently there are no ultramarines in mk.VIII

>>52240946
Painting them isn't awful once you get the hang of it, since memes aside lots of the models are similar

Where can I get the pdfs for the new Gathering Storm books?

>>52241037

We haven't had a plastic Celestine or failcast character every year for the last 17 years.

>>52241078
>implying Celestine isn't a half-daemon
>implying SoB aren't a completely separate faction

>>52241076
in one if the mega links in the op

>>52241101
You got the meme wrong
Celestine is a non SoB model that happens to be in the SoB faction.

>>52241101

No, but daemonettes are half-Eldar.

>>52241061
>>52240681
Exactly only deathwatch has models with mk.VIII

Maybe, is the standard version of mkXIII for space marines.

>>52241105
But which section specifically?

Anons, explain shortly what the reasons behind Horus Heresy were and what each of the legions was about!

>in short greentexts

>>52241046

Oh, I agree that SoB wouldn't get along with SoS. You're forgetting the part where they're also mutants. However, they can be easily fluffed into a sisters army as specialist sisters with anti-psyker gear.

Also, I want to legitimately run a full SoS army, but that is just impractical.

>>52241144
>Banegryn

>>52241136
soz
*Maybe, is the standard version of mkVIII for space marines.

When will someone upload Gathering Storm II and III?

>>52241027
anyone? i would ask in dakkadakka but the servers seem to be down.

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>>52241136
Anon, literally ever SM sergeant in a GW tac squad pic has MkVIII.

>>52241013
I really liked the one where they were assisting that squad of los fistos rojos without ever being seen or telling them. Or maybe it was the minotaurs. One of the affirmative action chapters.

>>52241146
>shit, if i can't worship my father (a man made god) then what do i do?!
>hey boss how about the devils and demons in hell space?
>great idea!

>>52240681
I was wrong to write mk.XIII
I mean mk.VIII
;)

>>52240681
That's from the Japanese exclusive SM heroes busts.

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5 men CSM(Death Guard) squads in Rhinos - what special weapons would you put on them:
- flamer
- melta
- plasma
- none

>>52241146
>no

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>>52241177
but no space marine with this blackpack, and collar is more big that standard mk.VII
mk.VII errant is only a protective front plate
Observe that other illustrations do not use it

>>52241235
1 Combi melta on the sergeant, one meltagun.

>>52241235
I'd go with 10 men squads with 2 meltas/plasmas in each one, depending on what you're up against.

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>>52241228
no busts, are models

>>52241235
Give them every weapon

Magnetize

>>52241266
oh yeah, and a combi weapon for the champ, to match the rest of his unit

>>52240731
I dunno anon, I've known one GW store manager that had regular solid info from an insider at Nottingham. He told us a year in advance about the plastic Cadian and Catachan command squads. That being said the manager of my nearest gee dubs knows exactly the same nothing as the rest of us.

>>52241277
Dunno why, but I havent considered it... good idea though, I might actually do it

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>>52241275
>an exclusive japanese SM hero
>a regular ass tactical marine

>>52241263
Anon the Deathwatch have the same backpack, and illustrations are nowhere near the same as the models.

The other illustrations don't use it because they're not wearing MkVIII.

>>52241275
That's news to me.

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>>52240860
>>52240740
I have acquired more metal boxes. Still some points to spare, but it's just occurred to me there's no real way to deal with flyers here.

>>52241275
are slightly larger monopose models, basically they have the same height as deathwatch models

>>52241263
Are you retarded? THE SERGEANT FROM THE SM BOX SET IS MK VIII. It is flat out STATED that that torso option is Mk viii. There are also Mk viii torsos in the Black Templars, (Old) Dark Angels and Blood Angels boxes.

>>52241361
plastic of resin?

>>52240901
That chaos marine looks for a moment like he's thinking "oh... I didn't expect this to be my day"

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>>52241376
nope sargent from sm box set is mkVII errant pattern

deathwatch is mk.VIII Inquisition pattern

this pic is mk.VIII standrad

>>52239371
G man there looking at all that lewdness

>>52241301
You should, especially now that we are close to a new edition.
A magnetize squad is ready for every new rule, new meta or even new weapons GW could throw at us.

I have a magnetized squad of ranged Chosen. It was a great decision to make them like that.

>>52241459
Anon you are a retard. That's concept art that was never made into a model.

>>52241459

>mkVII errant pattern
MkVII is 'Aquila' pattern.

>>52241392
plastic & snap-fit.

>>52241376

Hi stupid for brains.

You see, Mark 8 armour is more different from Mark 7 than just the chest plate. The chest plate -is- handed out as a mark of distinction though.

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>>52241493
are you sure....

Can the kill team Cassius box be used for the kill team boxed set?

It seems WAY too high to be able to be used, but I'm not sure why it's labeled kill team then.

we got the rules for Codex: Sisters of Silence yet? It's on black library and some chump must have bought it by now.

Anything changed since dataslate?

>>52241353

>no real way of dealing with fliers

Welcome to Sisters of Battle.

If they're a problem in your meta, you do have options. Retributers with an ADL quad gun, IA Valkyries, or an Avenger from FW. Dangles have fliers, too.

Otherwise, the sisters list looks good, just you don't need the SB on the Dom immo. They're ok if you have points to spare, but they're not like exos where you really want to save the turret.

>>52241529

It looks like a space marine stuck in a barrel.

>>52241478
Is a magnet in the right hand (and its pair where the gun's handle was) enough? Since the left hand is open and the gun should sit there just fine

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>>52241529
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>>52241263
You're all fucking imbeciles, you know that?

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>>52240556
fuck you you fucking stupid asshole moron. die in the deepest fires of mordor you shithead.

>>52241529
Notice how the helmet, back-pack, and termi-style powerfist are different.

>>52241574

I see no contradiction to the assertion Tactical sergeant boxes only come with the chest piece of a Mark 8.

>>52241560
>This is a pre-order title, available to download from 25 Mar 2017.

>>52241616

And the legs.

And the wrist console.

Can someone post those god fucking ugly yellow necrons?

>>52241618
Anon the only thing different between MkVIII and MkVII IS the chest plate due to GW never having had made the models after the concept art.

>>52241574
leg of mark 8 are de same of deathwatch, but not from space marine box?

>>52241376
>>52241493
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>>52241588
The fuck are people being so autistic for?

>>52241643
was about to post this

>>52240104
:(

>>52241643

Take a look at a deathwatch marine's legs some time.

There's other differences, but the legs are the second clearest after the chest.

Plus, it is directly canon that partial suits are given as an honour.

>>52241027
No love for the newbie :( is it my choice of faction and no one knows? Last shameless self bumb

>>52239517
Bump

>>52240556
Just like we've been hearing "basically confirmed" rumors of Age of Emperor for the last two years now?

Come back with a source or fuck off.

>>52241676
Pretty much mate. Plus lists get ignored all the time, unfortunately.

That, and anon thinks MkVIII is more than just a chest plate swap on MkVII.

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>>52240556
>Just got back from my local GW, dude says big stuff happening, expect plastic citizens of the Imperium models, get hyped.

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>>52241353
Forgeworld actually makes a pretty badass flier for them.

>>52241676
Yeah I think it's mostly just timezone and choice of faction. I don't know shit about DKOK

Bump >>52240757

>>52241663
>Posters point out that Retard McFucknuts knows fuck all. Retard McFucknuts gets butthurt and calls us all autistic.
Just accept the fact that you were stupidly fucking WRONG, you twat.

>>52241712
>>52241733
gotcha, thanks, ill try again later!

>>52241643
Except there were METAL Mk viiis on sale. But yeah, basically the only real difference between vii and viii IS the gorget on the chestplate.

I wonder what a mark 8 jump pack looks like.

>>52239371
Glorious edit.

>All these faggots looking for tiny differences in art/models in the hope of discovering a numarine leak

GW will make them full-on Sigmarine style reworks of the concept if they do make numarines, not just a slightly tweak to the design.

Otherwise every cunt in the hobby will just proxy the numarines with their existing marine force and they won't sell any.

This is like hunting through pics of chapter masters before the Guilliman mini was revealed, thinking his model would just be a slightly scaled up version with a headswap.

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What are you anons up to today?
Play any games?
Plan to?

I'm building my friend's Guilliman he commissioned me for and last night I actually managed to win against my Guard-friend's semi parking lot list with my Grey Knights. I managed to roll all Sanctic powers but Gate of Infinity on one Librarian, and then I got Veil of Time on my other Librarian and they joined Draigo and a squad of Paladins.

Also, post your armies. I gave my dudes a victory photoshoot(sadly I had to use flash because my friend's garage doesn't have much light.) because the last time they won a match was almost a year ago.

>>52241526
For fuck's sake. Are you really this retarded or is this just extremely low quality bait?

>>52240353

Sent an email!

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>>52241616
>>52241529

>>52241745
I'm not that 'Retard McFucknuts', just pointing out your autism is showing. Maybe you should stop going all ADHD mode on anything that remotely triggers you?

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>>52241561
>there's no fortification slot for an ADL in vestal task force

>>52241796
mk.VII, 1990 mk.VIII, 2016 mkVIII deathwatch

>>52241726
im actually thinking of getting 2 of these for my DKOK assault brigade list, are they worth it? Im buying a second hand bundle army and theres one avenger included.

>>52241459
Errant pattern IS Mk VIII. I swear, so much fucking stupidity. I'm gonna spell it out for you fuckwit, this is the OFFICIAL Designations from when GW FIRST FUCKING STARTED with the different armour patterns:
Mk I: Thunder Armour.
Mk II: Crusade Pattern.
Mk III: Iron Armour.
Mk IV: Maximus Armour.
Mk V: Heresy Pattern.
Mk VI: Corvus Pattern.
Mk VII: Aquilla Pattern.
Mk VIII: Errant Armour.

>>52241787

Honestly I have to assume you're either baiting or have never looked closely at a deathwatch model at this point.

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>>52241796
there is also the old metal model

>>52241784
Do you have a close up on that HQ squad and the golden one on the left? You are ALMOST making me buy them.

>>52241821
>mk. VII
ummm no, that first one is a mk. VIII, I don't care what you autists say, if it has a faceplate, it's a mk. VIII

>>52241862

>Has the different legs the plastic one doesn't

Gee.

>>52241857
ok, but sargent chest of SM box is not a VIII

>>52241802
Maybe you should learn the fucking lore.

>>52241893
yes it is?

>>52241877

It's pretty clearly a mark 7 with a mark 8 chest plate dude.

You know you can mix armour types, right? That's basically Mark 5's entire gimmick.

>>52241893
>armored cables
>gorget
it is

>>52241821
>Errant armor
>Mark VII
nigga u dumd

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You are all retarded.

1. Space Marines can and frequently do mix and match armor pieces, so having a Mk. VIII chest does not make the whole set Mk. VIII

2. There was already a UM in Mk.VIII long before the deathwatch.

>>52241877
VIII power armour is not only a ring on a chest

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>>52240353
Update. Some items no longer available.

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the autism in this thread gave me enough extra chromosomes to spare to make a new human being

>>52241893
Except it fucking IS. GW brought out that box set with the statement 'Now you have the option to kit out your sergeant or SM Hero in Mk VIII Errant armour.'

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>>52241904
You know there are different variations of armor patterns right? You can have a mk. VIII that looks slightly different than the "textbook" version, for example not having those things on the legs, while still being a mk. VIII

>>52241914

>Mark 8 jump pack is the same as the mark 6/7 one

Well that's just disappointing.

>>52241946
THIS, WHY ISN'T ANYONE POSTING THIS

>>52241914
good is the first attemp to a complete VIII power armour before the deatwatch

>>52241946

>I stuck a chestplate on a mark 7 model so the entire mark is changed

I mean, if you class mark purely by chestplate, sure.

You want I should stick a mark 2 chest on a deathwatch mini and call it mark 2?

>>52241929
>no one bought the OOP metal incubi, or the metal command squad.

You know those are worth a fucton of money, right?

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Crunchwise, is it a good idea to run Sisters of Silence alongside Sisters of Battle?
The 12" dispelling of blessings could allow an Exorcist battery to do some damage.
Priests allowing rerolls to wound could give the Zweihandlers a big buff before Initiative 4.
Maybe an inquisitor with Rad grenades to flavour?

>>52241993
...they are?

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>>52241977
Literally, the only official VISIBLE differences are these 3 things.

I think it doesn't really matter if little Timmy wants to make his searg a mk8 or not.

>>52241977
In all the early designs, Mk 7 and 8 used the same legs and the same backpack, both of which were different from Mk6, as seen in >>52241574. Having models with those designs does not make those models not what they are.

Furthermore, the entire fluff behind Mk 8 on sergeants is that Mk 8, being in limited production, is only given to veterans as a symbol of status. A Mk 8 sergeant is supposed to be visual representation of a veteran sergeant versus a regular sergeant. As far as GW and the fluff is concerned, that IS a Mk 8 model.

>>52242023
the metal incubi go for a LOT of money on ebay

>>52241974
sternguard have a near-complete Mk8 as well

no errant vambraces, but deathwatch don't have those either

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>>52242015
Culexus is more points-effective than a SoS squad.

>>52242035

Well, bear in mind that's old ass art. Compare in the same pic the mark 4 that has a mark 6-7 backpack.

Deathwatch and the ultramarine executioner captain are the best guides.

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>>52241808
>wanting to take a Vestal Task Force

CAD is better. Rerolling 1s for saves for ONE fucking turn isn't worth losing ObSec on your troop immolators.

>>52241784

I was supposed to play in an Apoc game, but I have to visit my parents for dinner. No picture because A) I've already posted it and B) my reaction to using a VTF is required.

>All this new shit coming out

I want NEW LEMON RUST FOR ASTRO MILLY

>>52242057
Exactly. But anon, you know that Retard McFucknuts STILL won't accept that he's wrong.

>>52242084
>old ass art
that's from the 6th ed codex m8

>>52239844
The 30k Admech army I'm planning are Magi Biologis, so I'm using a fair heap of Skaven and Vampire Counts stuff to help make my biological Automata counts-as. Castellax are Stormfiends with Ogryn gasmask heads, less spikes and suitable weapons, for instance.

Planning on Crypt Ghoul Militia levies, too.

>>52242057

If it has the chest plate and the ankle disks it's 8.

Though given deathwatch are the only models with both so far, I have a strong suspicion their backpack is an official mark 8 backpack now.

>>52242088
OLD Leman Russ with individual track rollers + wheels and taller turret = BEST Leman Russ.

>>52241784
I just played my second game using only my Sisters of Battle. It ended 7-9 as my loss, but I would have been tabled by the end of turn 6 if we went there. Thankfully the game ended but I'm not sure how I feel about it.

>>52242108

Still has old mark armours that don't match the actual plastics and resins of those old mark armours.

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>>52242121
>and the ankle disks
So according to you, this model right here is not Mk 8, correct?

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>>52242121
>deathwatch are the only models with both so far

>>52241875
I don't have a close up on hand, but from left to right is: The Dark Angel Librarian from Dark Vengeance which I used to proxy a power armor Inquisitor or some other IC on a 25mm base, my kitbash Ordo Malleus WYSIWYG Inquisitor made from Captain Karlaen(which I used as my 2nd Librarian, Kaldor Draigo stepping out of the warp, the old Finecast Librarian, I ripped the staff head off and put a halberd head and gave him a GK helmet, and then just Coteaz.

>>52241929

Emailed. I'm a crazy bastard

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>>52241784
i need to swing by my local GW to pick up an eldar codex since i have everything but a warlock painted and ready to play. gonna run a wave serpent as night spinner and the ork as a warlock

white is a pain to paint

>>52242183

>that Kommando who is in 'Deep Kover' mode

Do you think anyone would have a problem if I proxy'd Ratling Snipers for Cadian Snipers?

Because jesus fuck those Ratling models

I guess I could always just give the Cadians kneeling legs as well, right?

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signum are the same that deathwacth? with the same?

>>52242157
I really like what you did. Congrats

>>52241779
This.

Also we've already seen a numarine. Anyone who thinks those leaks were faked or converted are fucking retarded.

So, I know this is normally Grey Guard Anon's job, but I just got back from some glorious victory, Admech vs Scions and Guard. Anyone down for a batrep, since I remembered to take some pictures for once?
Warning, weapons being proxied and unpainted/first of my models, since I've only been doing this for a few months.

>>52242222
You wasted quads with your seizure there

>>52242222
only deathwacth & terminators

>>52242238
Thanks!

>>52241929
Roughly how much are you trying to get for Space Hulk? Is it already opened?

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>>52242142
Not him, but for fun, notice that the Honor Guard on the left doesn't have the inside disk on his foot, but I think has one on the outside.

Also notice the Deathwatch biker has the disk on his foot but is clearly not wearing Mk 8.

Using the disk as a basis and pretending its standardize is very disingenuous.

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>>52242183

Those look great, actually. As much as I hate eldar, I'd burn you on the table like the filthy xenos witches you are.

>>52242251
thanks!

>>52242132
assembly of individual track roller tracks was really painful
and the old exterminator looked shit

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>>52242267
Woops, I meant to stitch these together.

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>>52242267
That's not a disk, it's a cable. Just painted red.

>the Deathwatch biker has the disk on his foot but is clearly not wearing Mk 8
mk7 and m8 are completely compatible. The fact that literally every tactical squad mixes the chestpiece and legs should be enough of an indication that it's possible.

Ravenwing knights also have mk8 legs.

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>>52241784
I had a really fun two games with my Deldar this week, got in a big fight with khorne daemons.
Trueborn beat bloodletters in combat.
Doggos held up a dark artisan all game.
And my incubi failed to kill any terminators on the charge.

No games this weekend because my grandma died.

what primarch do you think will come back and get a new model

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>>52242267
a cable

>>52242312
demon or loyalist?

my hope is for mortarion anyways, papa nurgles units could need some love in the 41st century. And a facelift of the plague marines + demon primarch would be perfect

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>>52242267
>>52242292
>>52242320
a cable

>>52242297
How have your Deldar fared against KDK, Mine have usually shot them to pieces during turn 1 and 2 but by then they have enough summons and units in my face and I get overwhelmed in melee.

I did however have wyches kill a DThirster through sheer luck, that was glorious.

>>52242312
Personally hoping for Mortarion

>>52242312
They teased Fulgrim returning in the book and he'd definitely make the most interesting model.

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>>52242215
i've had a random ork in my collection for ages, idk how he snuck in or if i picked him up in a lot of miniatures (possibly with a squad of SoB i picked up at trading event years ago). i use him as a character every now and again but with this new army i can finally make this picture a reality

meet warlock 'eadbanger

>>52242268
thank you

>>52242342
I'd prefer a wildcard primarchs myself

>>52242365
I'm the GK anon from above and I'd buy the ABSOLUTE FUCK out of a Fulgrim model if it's his giant serpent form.

>>52242366
I never noticed the incredibly effeminate hand gesture that Ork has.

Just like... "Oooh, Watch out, 'umies! This one's gonna sting!"

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>>52242292
>knights have mk8 legs
But that is a totally different design from Deathwatch. I think it's more accurate to say Deathwatch bikers use ravenwing knight legs, which are whatever they are but certainly not the supposed all-encompassing mark 8 legs that can never vary.

>>52242368
Who out of the primarchs is even a wildcard, besides maybe Alpharius/Omegon? And what do you even mean by that exactly

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>>52242085
I had to sub the Immolators for Rhinos on the troop carriers for ADL+Retributor points. Also one of the loud hailers had to go, but there's still two more so there should be enough coverage, yes?

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>>52242366
was about to post this: >>52242401

That fucking hand gets me every time.

>>52242401
probably mocking the eldar hes cosplaying

>>52241529
deathwatch veterans & Watch master wear a custom inquisitorial mk 8

>>52242259
The one pictured is already on hold for someone.
I do have an opened copy (all pieces still on the sprue) that I would be willing to sell for about $100.

>>52242418

Honestly, I don't even use Hailers. Preferred enemy for a turn isn't exactly game breaking, though having them for the Doms is often the go-to.

That configuration is fine. You can have the HB squad bunker down 12" away from rets for their rending and provide a decent area of HB fire and send the sacrificial troops up field.

Or

You can shift rhino Hailer to an exorcist, park that 12" from you rets, change the HB troops to HFF troops and then roll both squads up the table together.

Both options are fine. I prefer the latter because that's just how I play with my SoB armored column.

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I want to play orks, not to win but to have fun for both me and my opponent. I know orks are the npc race, but would this list be fun to play with/against? I don't really care about winning, just having fun, I'm expecting a massive wave of melee would do the trick.

>>52241146
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Horus_Heresy#Preliminary_Causes

Lexicanum is your friendd

>>52242418
what are you using to make this list? I use Battlescribe and its not as cool and simple looking.

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>>52242542

>Filename
Check the OP

>>52242510
>no transports
>functionally no anti-armour
>no heavy guns of any type whatsoever

that looks really reallly boring, not to mention atrociously bad

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OK, I decided to do my batrep anyway. Apologies for blurry pictures.

Slight proxying occurring, because he brought a Baneblade and a Knight to a 1500 game and was smug about it while we were writing lists. KatDs are Arc Breachers, Plasma Calivers are Arc Rifles. No idea what the hell was up with his Knight Crusader.

Took a pic of my army while he was deploying. Coteaz did not help me seize, and I was scared because Kataphron Breachers don't respond well to Avenger Gatling Cannon. Then something magical and idiotic happened.

>>52242562
In the OP there is BattleScribe listed and nothing else, but i use it too, some magic how to make the graphic look neat and simple as that?

>>52242510

slugga boyz without transports are ass

meganobz without transports are also ass

if you want to do an on foot Ork army then you want to go as shooty as possible

if you want a mele ork army then you need to be as mobile as possible with plenty of Trucks and battlewagons

>>52240939
what a retarded image, Magnus couldn't even bring his arms down without snagging the horns.

>>52242573
Not him, but most good Ork AT is melee only, since WS4+ beats BS2 any day.

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>>52242593
His army deployed, sans the Hellrain Brigade scions and command squad loaded with Volley Guns.

>>52242594
>
In the OP there is BattleScribe listed and nothing else
>>List organizer picture book
>https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>>52242595
So there's no way to do a green wave melee ork army? I'm not asking to win here, but I'm just tired of seeing games with min sized ranged units popping in and out of transports shooting at each other.

>>52242616
I know that, but he has no transports to get that melee to the enemy. Walkers being absolute shite means they won't be much help either. also, ork big guns have bs3 because gretchins

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>>52242618
Everything squared off and my little tin men refused the blindfold.

Would it make sense to have Grey Knights and Sisters of Battle working together? And by working together I mean a small inquisitional band with 5 GK terminators alongside an SoB army.

>>52242623

not really your just asking to get templated to death and shot the shit out of as you slowly walk towards the enemy.

One question,

why is the ork codex considered so bad in general?
is it because its a nerf compared to the former ork codex or because the codex of the other factions just got much better?

>>52242635
Holy shit that battlefield is horrible. NEVER EVER play with such killingfields in the middle of the board. If you can, place large LOS-blocking terrain there. Makes so much more fun games.

>>52242620
>ttps://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator
oh, in my drunken stupor i must have missed that, sorry.

>>52242623

I know you said you didnt want to cheese but this is an example of a good Ork army list

HQ

Zhadsnark ‘Da Rippa’150 (Warlord)

Warboss: Da Lucky Stikk; power klaw; warbike 135

Troops

15 Warbikerz: Boss Nob (power klaw) 305

3 Warbikerz54

3 Warbikerz54

Allied Detachment – Secondary Detachment

HQ

Painboy: grot orderly; warbike 80

Troops

10 Gretchin: + 1 Runtherd 35

Great Waaagh! – Secondary Detachment

HQ

Big Mek: Mega Force Field; killsaw; warbike 165

Warboss: Big Bosspole; power klaw; warbike 130

Troops

10 Gretchin: + 1 Runtherd 35

10 Gretchin: + 1 Runtherd 35

Elite

8 Tankbustas104

Trukk: Rokkit Launcha 30

8 Tankbustas104

Trukk: Rokkit Launcha 30

8 Tankbustas104

Trukk: Rokkit Launcha 30

8 Tankbustas104

Trukk: Rokkit Launcha 30

8 Tankbustas104

Trukk: Rokkit Launcha 30

Its a little out of date but it did win several tourneys in 2015

>>52242662
I'm confused. Could you not find the online roster creator?

>>52242410
>But that is a totally different design from Deathwatch.
everything about deathwatch is slightly different from pre-existing mk8 pieces

don't use the deathwatch models as your benchmark

>>52242636

Yeah. I mean, the most recent book had exactly that (Along with other marines and mechanicus too but they teamed up)

>>52242678
not that, i found battlescribe and i thought it was the one to use, till i saw these graphs here.
Then again >>52242662 doesnt have DKOK included so its useless for me.

>>52242688
So they're not bad about that one time they killed a whole order of sisters and wore their blood as undergarments?

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>>52242635

Turn 1, he moved everything forward slightly and Fired Ze (hunter-killer) Missiles, as well as everything else, and the most amazing feat of Distraction Carnifex I've ever seen happened.

Literally everything shot at the Kastelans, and the second one keeled over just as the last Storm Bolter shots bounced uselessly along ceramite plating, leaving the Datasmith hiding behind a box and First Blood unclaimed. Those guys get a medal, and so does the one Skitarii the Baneblade cannon clipped. My entire casualty pile is pic related.

>>52242661

I wasn't too happy about it either, believe me, but I play with what I get and what I get is a meager ration of GW standard terrain and a 4x4 board, since the manager refuses to break any more out for less than 2k.
Honestly thinking of buying and making some custom Admech fortifications and terrain so I can play on a proper board for once.

>>52242620
Thanks, checked it out, doesnt have DKOK listed so no use for me unfortunately.

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>>52242642
It sure sucks to be a horde army nowadays.

>>52242660
because every unit in it is overcosted, you can't take their basic walker is squadrons, where you can take fffffucking riptides in squadrons, etc etc.

Because shooting > assault by a large margin in the current edition and the orks are a melee focused army, and on top of that they have fucking I2 and S3 despite being a "melee race".

Because nobody on the planet seems capable of giving the orks anything without taking something away. The only respite they have from their shit aim is gitfindas, which can only be taken by one overcosted anti-infantry unit, and they only work when they stand still anyway.

Compare, for example, the ta'unar supremacy armour to the stompa. the ta'unar is 600 points and the stompa is 770 points. you can figure out the rest.

>>52242746

you can kinda pull off a horde army for orks

but its a dakka horde, just sit on objectives with big blobs of shoota boyz, lootaz and Mek Gunz

>>52242746

Just do it anyway, faggot. Play what you want. If you wanted be a WAAC fag and destroy your opponents, you wouldn't be playing Orks in the first place.

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>>52242660
Snikrot is the only unit to be buffed.

Blood Axes a best!

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>>52242720

On my turn, my sneaky Infiltrators dived behind a building to block LoS from the Knight and Baneblade, and everything else poked guns and optics out of their various hiding places, Benediction of Omniscience in effect.

Pretty much everything with a Haywire gun shot at the Baneblade, downing it once the Dunecrawler chipped in with a Neutron Laser blast. It scattered 11" towards me with a Titanic Explosion, and killed three of my Vanguard, as well as glancing his Sentinel.

Rangers managed to shave off a hull point from the Chimera, and the Infiltrators took a wound off a Weapons Team.

He refused to remove his arm for photos, and his whole army pushed up and opened fire on the Kastelans. I lost two from one unit and one from the other, plus a wound off my Inquisitor, but luckily they both held morale.

>>52242806
*On the Kataphrons, the Kastelans did not rise from the dead to do their Carnifex trick a second time.

>>52242660
It's somehow a nerf to the already slightly shit book we had before as it removed Invulns and characters, and gutted all existing characters

>>52242796
I just noticed that there's a compass on his choppas.

>>52242756

okay, I see.

But were orks better than I2 S3 in their earlier codex?

>>52242857
Ork Boyz have almost always been I2 S3. They used to have a rule that was like Furious Charge, except it also doubled their initiative on the charge as well, iirc.

>>52242857
Pretty much >>52242879

Orks haven't had changes to their profile, but special rules they rely on have changed around them.

>>52242355
Sort of well.

I blew away his bloodcrushers in the first two turns and decided to get out my transports and charge his units on the third.
My trueborn beat the shit out of blood letters real good but I got unlike in a fight with his terminators.

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>>52242806

His Scion squad and command squad both showed up, and both mishapped, one dying and going into Ongoing and the command squad winding up back next to the Infiltrators behind a shed.


My Datasmith poked his head out of his hiding place and decided to go down guns blazing. He and the Rangers shot the Taurox dead, with a little help from an Inquisitorial combi-melta. I took a hull point off his Chimera, and my Infiltrators took the Scion Command squad to task in melee, forcing them back to Hellrain reserves since my other Ranger squad failed miserably at killing one bloody Commissar.

They should make it so that if you get the charge you get to strike first unless you have an unwieldy weapon, and charging gives you +1 combat resolution.

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Anyone got suggestions on where to start with a cult mechanicus list? I want to eventually get into the sweet sweet formations.

>>52242635
>guardplayergetstodeploytheterrain.jpg

>>52240556
There is a TWO YEAR DEVELOPMENT CYCLE!

As in it takes TWO YEARS, that is TWENTY FOUR MONTHS, as in ONE HUNDRED AND FOUR WEEKS which is like SEVEN HUNDRED AND THIRTY DAYS, for any miniature project to be developed from test sculpts to final sculpts to masters to CAD to die to cast to box to warehouse to shipping to sale.
Now that is an approximation, some take a few months less, most take longer. Sometimes by an order of several years.

Unless GW has has final CAD sculpts done, then Sisters will still be at the early stages of development, and of course they would be as GW will endeavour to not sit on a mostly finished product for to long as that is a product NOT MAKING THEM MONEY! Once they approve the final test sculpts they tend to go into production as quickly as possible.

If Celey and Miss Failcast were 'test' minis to gauge interests then Sisters were barely yet in the development cycle.
If they are going all out and bring us a full Sister army now, it won't be till the END OF 2018 at it's soonest.

And if they were not the 'test' sculpts then Sisters are even further out as if they were coming soon it would be here now already to capitalise on the recent attention the Sisters just got.

Tl;dr read first sentence.

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>>52242510
How does it feel knowing I have 150 points left to spare and yet I destroy your list?

>>52239365
I played the Death in the Void scenario from the Badab books. It was fun when the whole map exploded and took out half my army. The other guy's DEldar quickly mopped me up.

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Heya /40kg/

What tips would you have for someone who bought the Dark Vengeance set but is finding it VERY hard to keep up with all the rules and specific situations that you need to take into account?

I'm trying really hard to get into it, but it took me half an hour just to resolve a single squad's shooting phase, and I have no doubts that I fucked that up somehow too.

Take into account that I live in a shitty backworld country and don't know anyone that I can play with, although there are is one retailer in my city that sells GW merchandise.

Also am I crazy or is the psychic phase missing entirely from the Dark Vengeance set? Even though Librarian Turmiel has two psychic abilities he can use?

>>52242718
It got retconned out of existence.
Even GW thought that was a crock of shit.

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>>52242937
>240 boyz

>>52242677
yep

this is the kind of jewery you have to play to win as orks

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>>52242911

The Scions turned up again next turn, actually managing to land this time, and they and the Ratlings shredded the rest of my Kataphrons, killing all but one injured trackman from each squad. The Knight killed my damaged Dunecrawler with his battle cannon, and the Chimera and Avenger cannon made a shot at Slay the Warlord, but the Dominus made his 2+ saves masterfully and only lost one wound.

I congalined my Skitarii out the door to Arc Rifle the Chimera, abandoning the Knight because I didn't have the firepower left. Stray Breacher popped his Sentinel, and my Ranger squads cleaned up the Scions and that blasted Comissar, while the Dominus went to bully the command squad that put burn marks on his glorious metal pecs.