Pathfinder General /pfg/

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/hAfKSnWW

this the place ot look for starfinder stuff?

>>52234521
its not out yet

>>52234529
i guess this is the place to look for excuses

>>52234536
ok

>>52234521
When Starfinder stuff actually exists maybe.

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>>52234521

Yeah, we post the things we learn about it here as they come up. Thus far we have base classes, some races, and a few other tidbits about the system and setting.

> 15+ applications in Legacy

Christ. Competition is fierce.

>>52234585
it tends ot be for pfg games

>>52234585

There are maybe six that are even worth looking at

>>52234585
15 isn't even that many.

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I will be running a Spheres of Might playtest game once the full playtest is released soon. Since N. Jolly would prefer "mid-range" optimization rather than high-end optimization, I have implemented some measures and restrictions to better enforce such a power level for characters.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/71197/spheres-of-might-unofficial-playtest-the-harrowing-modified

Of note is that the schedule has opened up. In UTC+0, these are the available time frames:

• Sundays: 11:00 P.M. to 11:59 P.M.
• Mondays: 12:00 A.M. to 11:00 A.M.; then 11:00 P.M. to 11:59 P.M.
• Tuesdays: 12:00 A.M. to 2:00 P.M.; then 11:00 P.M. to 11:59 P.M.
• Wednesdays: 12:00 A.M. to 2:00 P.M; then 11:00 P.M. to 11:59 P.M.
• Thursdays: 12:00 A.M. to 2:00 P.M.; then 11:00 P.M. to 11:59 P.M.
• Fridays: 6:00 A.M. to 2:00 P.M.

Additionally, I have opened up a thread in the Roll20 listing for general interest.

>>52234585
PLD is picking up players at about the same rate.

Poor Shardwalkers, all of them opened up within like a day of each other and a few days difference in deadline.

>>52234585
Reviews when? I'm curious to see how I stand.

>>52234585
25+ isn't unknown for /pfg/ games anon. WotR hit or almost hit 40 if I'm not mistaken.

>>52234686
wasn't dragons2 in the mid 30s?

>>52234585
Actually only 15. 1 post is the GM's OP, another is GM clarifying "No guys seriously you have to have both bullet points and an expanded backstory) and three are "but writings haaarrrd".

>>52234692
It was, but it also had the hype of an already successful game that probably drove up applicant numbers.

>>52234585
>>52234661
Maybe my standards are low but I feel like both games have above average app quality for /pfg/ games too. No explicit memes or anything unless you count Amalthea.

Though there've been like, 4 or 5 meme games in the last week so maybe it's an unfair comparison.

>>52234692
It was very nearly 40 when applications abruptly ended

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>>52234719
>Legacy
>High quality

>>52234719

Which ones stand out as above average? I don't really view not being full of retarded memes as being any indication of quality. The DM has the game setup in a pretty explicitly non meme-y way

>>52234738

Show us something good, then.

>>52234719
>>52234738

Legacy's apps are really low quality EXCEPT for cardwitch, who is a standout character.

Compare it to the slowly building but much more grounded Wrath of the Raunchy apps that quietly built up a pool of decent characters simply because the app process was so long.

>>52234777

Guess we know which app is yours

>>52234770
>>52234777
Tomasz, Amalthea, and Sakara all seem okay. Gamze is decent too, but has no sheet yet so I hesitate to pass judgment on it.

>>52234738
>>52234763
I think not being full of memes is an indication of quality, and having a clear tie into the game and themes is an indication of quality. It's too much to expect profiles to be very well-written when the nature of them alone is counter to conventions. There aren't many characters who're clearly out of place in either game, as opposed to well, most characters in most /pfg/ games.

>>52234777
I agree that WotR set a high bar but it's the only game which I think had a better consistent quality than the two relevant ones right now.

>>52234790

Nah, I haven't applied yet. I'm not sure I want to.

Besides, there has been vaguely broad agreement that her character is best simply because she's not an outlander and has a personality that is conveyed.

....I wanna make a character to be her husbando.

>>52234804

Amalthea is blatantly recycled concept cringe.

Sakara is......a GM who dropped a game I was enjoying last week, only to run this? Like couldn't we have moved the fucking game to Mondays instead of Sundays? I'm pretty miffed, now.

So, what are all of the pathfinder deities related to animals and nature?

>>52234822

*play, not run.

But yeah, the fuck, Doubleaction? The game couldn't be rescheduled?

>>52234817
>>52234822
Reading over them, there's a rare few who actually use their campaign traits well (and didn't just choose Outlander for the initiative). Shanan, for instance, actually built a profile about discovering his past to grow as a person.

On the other hand, we've got someone with Earning Your Freedom who is a respected career soldier, people with Outlander who were born and raised in Katapesh, and Visionaries with no vision.

Amalthea looks downright grounded by contrast.

>>52234822

Can hardly blame people for wanting to pick outlander as it fits a wide variety of concepts, and having multiple outlanders is infinitely superior to six people all raised by Haleen.

>>52234862

Have you even read what the visionary trait is?

>>52234870
Yes, but most seem to be using it as "guess I'll go adventuring" rather than "This serves my faith/studies/feels like it's fated".

>>52234804
Tomasz is fine.

Amalthea has nothing going on for her other than a cool concept and the meme. I mean, I don't even dislike the meme, she's just incomplete right now and thinking she's a better app than most of the other characters just comes off as... memes.

Sakara is similarly barebones, but without a big selling concept. She could end up being the best character when she's done but I'm pretty sure you just have a snake fetish anon.

>>52234866

That 'wide variety of concepts' mostly means that the character doesn't fit the scenario.

It's a that guy enabler. Nobody wants to see your Tianxi samurai running around Katapesh.

>>52234918

It's an AP, the scenario is "Willing to be railroaded"

I'd take a Tianxi samurai that was played well over someone who spent three weeks crafting an app and meme'ing themselves and shitting on other apps in the thread.

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>>52234834

There's Erastil; LG, gave early humans his bow to help them survive the wilderness, watches over hunters, farmers, and other rural/pioneer types. Big believer in hard work, honest living, helping your community, and having 400 babies.

>>52234866
Finding Haleen doesn't seem to be much of a problem considering how much the GM nerfed it.

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>>52234939
don't forget the blatant sexism.
not that theres any reason to throw a shit storm over that, we're all mature adults who are playing a game involving deties who defile corpses and steal and eat souls. And it's not like golarion is overrun by male dominated societies.

>>52234935

Yeah... but it's impossible tell how well a character will be played. A backstory clears the worst of them, but can't weed out the rest.

>>52234939

I thought Paizo was gonna retcon Erastil out or something for standing for traditional values and being a WHITE DEER-MALE.

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>>52234918

>Not wanting to see a tianxi samurai getting bullied by gnolls

>>52234935
The default assumption is that you don't know who plays well though, and if I were a DM I wouldn't even feel comfortable avoiding a person for memeing and shitting on other apps because I'd be afraid it was a false flag. I mean, we all know about Roryanon, but during WotR season I know I made a few posts about how great Lucius was and other anons agreed. I'd hate it if he didn't end up in the game because people who aren't related to the player at all liked his character.

Trying to gauge a player through their profile just seems practical, short of putting in a lot more effort trying to get to know each one of them. I mean I'm not even confident if that's a better solution, because I've played with a lot of players who seem wonderful until they get in game and start bitching, and a lot of players who take a few sessions adjusting to a group before they become comfortable.

>>52234970
I think they at least backed him down to being Hank Hill with antlers as opposed to either the extreme of "BURN THE GAYS" or "CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE"

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>>52234970
they really should make him a red deer male. it would explain his views more adequately. I will be a little butthurt if they change his views or take him out.

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>>52234969
>>52234981
So why do /pfg/ games recruit characters based on backstories/concepts, instead of the players behind them?

>>52234970
No. There is a disgusting amount of disinformation about this topic, most of which is motivated by a political agenda.

Erastil's character was misrepresented in "River's Run Red/Kingmaker" as being a lot more fire and brimstone the what the authors had intended. Hence, some things were clarified and retconed.

>>52234970

Well, he makes way the hell more sense as the wilderness/backwoods protector god than fucking Milani, I'll say that much.

>>52234671
It's St. Pats, so I'm hell drunk this weekend. The plan is to get through HR on Sunday, get my app for Legacy in on Monday, and start reviews for it on Tuesday.

>>52234981

I doubt a DM would buy into what people say in the thread, I just mean, from the perspective of an AP, the single best quality you can have is the ability to roll with whatever comes up. If you build yourself too much of a story you can be asking "Wait why am I doing this now?" Especially as Paizo AP's tend to have a little warm up section at the start, and then get the meta plot rolling afterwards.

Shitting on apps for choice of campaign trait is pointless, PC's have so much more depth than what brings them to a group, or at least they have the potential to be more than that.

I've played with characters who are too into their backstories, and they disrupt games under the guise of "Hey man it's my character!"

Not to say that's the case for apps here, all in all, it's probably more an indication that the mostly anonymous application process doesn't really even tell you much about players.

>>52235022
>So why do /pfg/ games recruit characters based on backstories/concepts,
>im-fucking-plying
Because otherwise it's a popularity contest, and realistically the DM can't screen that many people personally. It takes ages to "feel out" somebody.

>>52235027
Hooray! Thank you for everything you do, ReviewAnon2!

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>>52235041
It can't be much longer than processing tons of backstory and builds.

>>52235041

You can feel someone out by what avatar they use on discord, and talking to them for five minutes. DM working with people to create concepts that fit the vision he has for the game is the best way to go.

>>52235041

It's a popularity contest anyways. There's a lot of intersection between who's gotten into games, if you haven't noticed.

>>52235053
It is.

>>52235022
It can be a useful tool to gauge out how well someone writes.

>>52235053
You'd be surprised.

>>52235022

Well.... speaking as a GM who does a lot of roll20 stuff, it beats nothing.

There's no way I can tell if a person is a flake, slow to post, a drama whore, or any number of problems that won't materialize until we actually play, but at least I can rule out writing, creativity, and fit, as flaws that I don't want in my games. Then I kick people and re-recruit viciously until I get the group I want. Worked so far.

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>>52235059
>what avatar they use on discord
>mfw not on the discord
>mfw I've been potentially screwing myself out of games by not being on the discord

>>52235027
I'm sure I've heard you say you have been wasted at least thrice this week.

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>>52235061
Maybe it's because they're vetted players who are known to make good characters?

>>52235059
it wouldn't be 4chan if we didn't pointlessly analayze and rate people by their taste in media.

>>52234970

Nah, the only retcon to Erastil was that they toned down the chauvinism part of his description because they didn't feel like that fit the character and made him, as >>52234983, more of a Hank Hill with antlers thing.

Old Deadeye, the based dad god, isn't going anywhere.

>>52235103

Hence, popularity contest. They have more social traction. Exactly.

>>52235100
Indeed I have.

Got a problem with that?

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>>52235059
>>52235078
Wh-What if my avatar is a generic anime girl?

>>52235103
we're all aware that zipfs law is a thing, that doesn't make it any less shit for the rest of us.

>>52235120
Just concerned about your health, sempai.

>>52234399
Trying to choose gear for a caster druid at Lv6 WBL. Any advice?

>>52234983
>Boi that Gorum fella just ain't right, I tell you hwat.

I'm having issues picking which bloodline to go. So time for the ol first post is the pick

>>52235144
Impossible.

>>52235128

Then you go into the trash anon

>>52235128
What a cute doggo. Would pet/10

>>52235120
None whatsoever, dipso.

>>52235135
And, what kind of AC do you think I need as a caster druid, is a 20 reasonable since I'm a caster, or do you think magic armor is necessary?

>>52235139
>Worldwound opens up and starts leaking demons into Erastilian worshipers' lands
>BWAAAAAAH!

>>52235144
sylvan

>>52235053
Builds take no time to process once your system mastery is up to par. You can check scores against benchmarks, look for their primary function, then leave any in-depth examination out for when you've narrowed down characters.

Backstory is a bit longer but it probably doesn't take more than half an hour to read one through twice for big red flags.

Stuff like >>52235059 might help but ultimately it's still a crapshoot on how someone will handle a few sessions in. It's also arguably unfair for games advertised as /pfg/, though I'll give that a DM should pick the players that'll give them the best experience and personal preferences is a big part of that. Talking to a yesman for five minutes isn't really a reliable way to tell what kind of player they are though.

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>>52235164
I am making a character that's basically a TLDR version of this.

>>52235173
>You can check scores against benchmarks

Why the hell does no /pfg/ GM ever post these benchmarks?

"Go make a character of some nebulous and undefined 'balanced' power level, kay?"

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>>52235164
>>52235139
Now I want to see an Erasil'd version of pic related.

>That's a clean burning plane of fire.

>>52235153
>>52235154
The duality of man.

Also if I may speak as one of the DMs from this thread, I went into this with literally no knowledge of whether or not my players were well known here, and judged them based off of how my Discord interactions with them went, how much I liked the nature of their character, what their schedule looked like, and how much they followed the ruleset I gave for character creation.

>>52235164
>sound of trumpets from far away, screaming PCs
>"That girl ain't right, I tell you what."

>>52235183
There's a global benchmark by creature CR. A DM should adjust it based off their ruleset and expected level of optimization, but it's typically not some vague arbitrary thing.

I think Argent said they don't even look at builds before selecting characters so I guess there's always skipping it. Which is fine if you care less about function than form.

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>>52235193
>my Discord interactions
>mfw

>>52235214

> picking PCs based on optimization

It's a terrible night to have autism.

>>52235193
I think a big part of it is also availability. Sometimes a great app just doesn't have the right time for the others you want to pick, so you make do with someone not as good.

>>52235222
I talked with my prospective players via DM for the most part, and even gave my contact info in the lfg. It wasn't a secret, at least for mine.

>>52235231
I think you're mostly right but I'd always give a sheet a look through first. I wouldn't go far enough to arrange a party to similar tiers, but again, a DM's goal is to make the best game for themselves, and sometimes you gotta be concerned about characters who'll solo every encounter or characters that're dead weight. If you can't decide between two characters based off their profile, then it's perfectly fine to use party compatibility as a tiebreaker.

>>52235281

This is definitely true, if you allow PoW it's going to be hard to have a game with those classes and a 1PP fighter or rogue

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Evening gents. Gonna be on a good chunk of the night for anyone who needs things clarified concerning Legacy of Blood and Flame--or failing that, just wants to talk arabian nights setting stuff.
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67321/legacy-of-blood-and-flame

Ask me whatever you want.

>>52235281

I'd prefer to work with the player. When I GM I lean towards making suggestions, and if the player is really keen on a concept that is really good, I work with it somehow.

I might offer small buffs or bonuses somehow. Not just at random, but in-character, as the campaign develops. Have a paladin in my current campaign who is, as optimization goes, kind of shit, but his collection of perks brings him up to par and suits the campaign like a glove. Good fun for everyone.

>>52235299

Are you retooling the AP heavily? Seems like a lot of work has gone into the setting document alone

>>52235299
I can't decide what to app!

>>52235316
>a lot of work
Haven't read any Al-Qadim books lately, I take it.

But anyhow, I will be following it for long swaths here and there, but there as the AP is heavily flawed on its own, there will be many parts where it diverges into side quests, set pieces, and similar.

Possibly more depending on necessity.

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>>52235318
Do what your heart tells you.

>>52235318
Your heart is telling you sexy belly dancing harem girl.

>>52235299
How soon after applications are chosen would session zero/session one take place?

>>52235299
The original post says the game would be 6-8pm. Is that to start, or for are you planning on two hour sessions?

>>52235353
Seems like the dancing niche has been filled

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>>52235364
Planning, build-refining, and backstory-workshopping will probably go on for about a few days, possibly a whole week depending on the agreed-upon day.

If I decide to shorten the application period, I'll give some days in advance so people have time to finalize their apps or get in a last-second one.

>>52235382
There're six slots.

>>52235336

It's nice to hear that, what kind of level are you aiming for in challenge? You've amped up the PC's a fair bit

>>52235389
We can't have a game with too many dancers

Can we?

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>>52235381
The idea is to start somewhere in that range, though that's flexible to accommodate for peoples' schedules.

>>52235394
>amped up the PCs
I aim for something less than full gestalt, but with a better ability to cut through encounters than vanilla single-class Pathfinder.

Average goons will mostly remain the same, but anything directly related to a story thread will probably be given a boost near or all the way to the PCs' level.

>>52235417
We can.

>>52235429
Do you think you'll allow the Spheres of Might playtest? The new one should be coming out early next week, but you can see the last couple in the OP.

>>52235429

Do you have a preference on how important/strongly an applications background should factor in? Namely to settle the campaign trait shit posting earlier?

>>52235430
The snek has a racial bonus anon, I could never compete as a dancer

>>52235438
I thought about it, but went with Path of War instead. It's divisive, yes, but it's more complete, and I can understand how to work with it more easily.

>>52235467
I do like to see campaign traits being put to good use, though if a different aspect of the character informs their backstory more, I wouldn't object to that.

Part of backstory I want to see, and what I'm using the campaign traits for, is to tell how likely the character is to stay tied to the campaign rather than seeming like the character would just go their own way.

>>52235543
Agile Dancer as campaign trait when?

Extra trait slot when?

>>52235430
One can *never* have too many belly-dancers.

>>52235569

> applied to legacy
> didn't make a belly-dancer

I fucked up didn't I.

>>52235532
Charisma! Class skills! Ranks! traits! Skill focus! Class bonus! What is she, +15? +16? You can do better than that. She thinks you're the back up dancer, but you can steal the spotlight, steal the show, steal her man!

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>>52235558
Those are certainly ideas.

How about instead I just give you the choice of whether your character gets turned into a dog, an ass, or an ape?

>>52235612
I'll take a campaign trait that's basically Agile Dancer, thank you.

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>>52235583
Sure did.

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How would you feel if your GM gave the whole party awesome feet slot items perfectly tailored to their builds, but they were all high heels?

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>>52235585
Anon pls, she has mindfuck powers. She'll work the judges, she'll work the crowds, she'll work her man

>>52235583
Only if you didn't instead make a stalwart paragon of justice, my lad.

>>52235585
+14! With only +4 misc. modifiers.

She doesn't even have a Hypnotic Tattoo for that +2 Circumstance Bonus. What a failure!

>>52235543
I like Path of War, I'm just a slut for [NEW EXCITING THING]. I'll look through the new background stuff again and see what catches my eye.

>>52235677
How do you tattoo scales?

>>52235646
And what, you're going to let some cold blooded harlot cheat her way to the top? You're better than that, maybe she's smarter, sure, she might have a wonderful heart, but you just gotta be prettier than some bitch who's probably wearing a horse skin wig over her slimy scalp. And isn't your outer beauty what's important?

Come on, let's go put 20 into Charisma.

What's the closest thing to a Cicada you can get as a familiar?

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>>52235726

>>52235715
You're not making any sense, anon! Vishkanya have hair! Although, they probably did shave that bitch bald when she was enslaved...

What ways are there to get Wis to Diplomacy?

>>52234399
Now, that's just my opinion, but I think Sacred Servant Paladin with its ability to get a free Planar ally companion is pretty good and probably pushes that archetype to T3.

>>52235813
It does

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>>52235775
Empathic Diplomat

>>52235642
Do they come with magically perfect balance?

My entirely practically-minded warrior woman would love high-heeled boots with magically perfect balance, because she's annoyed at being shorter than everyone.

>>52235756
Vishkanya. Pffft. It's Al Qadim. They got real yuan-ti snek girls there.

>>52235746
Adorable

>>52235877
Sssshhh, that's still WotC stuff.

Serpentfolk, though, they're just a hop, skip, and a jump away.

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>>52235877
I am tempted to make a synthesist summoner or SoP shifter snek like pic related.

>>52235677
wew, she's about to. I didn't include the castanets either.

>>52235695
I'll figure something out

>>52235715
Lot of spite in your heart, anon.

>>52235863
I can't seem to find it anywhere? What's that from?

>>52235027
Reviewanon, no! Be at least somewhat selfish and get your own app done before finishing reviewing others! Actually getting games yourself comes first, helping everyone else comes second!

>>52235905
As long as it is yuan-ti. Go for it. Ask GM if you can steal from Serpent Kingdoms.

tfw 21 AC
tfw 11 hp

lizardfolk cleric is suffering

>>52235914
Qadira: Jewel of the East.

>>52235914
The new Qadira book.

>>52235905
You don't have to be either a synth or a Shifter.

Take Transformation. This will get you the ability to turn into a snake.

Then take Hybrid Transformation. Are now snek. You can choose upon getting the feat if you want to have two legs or have no legs and be naga-like snek.

You also get 40ft move speed, 20ft climb speed, low light vision, a bite attack, and +2 natural armor which scales up by 1 per 5 levels.

Proceed to do whatever the heck else you want, as you are now Snek, independant of class abilities.

>>52236039
What classes do you think would go particularly well with snek?

>>52236057

Tetori monk

what're some fun racial archetypes to try out?

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>find out that catfolk can get Claw Blades and make Catfolk Pounce potentially something ACTUALLY USEFUL instead of a shitty meme feat
>my excitement starts to waver when I realize that there's no way to treat 3/4ths BaB classes as having full BaB for prereqs, or to ignore the 13 Str requirement
>excitement immediately dies as I realize my thought to meme with a catfolk rogue, or even ninja

I shouldn't be disappointed, but it still stings for some reason. I guess I COULD just go with Slayer and likely be straight up better, but it's just not the same.

>>52236057
Go grappler.

>>52236057
Well you also get either Constrict or Poison.

Also, Improved Transformation could get you Death Roll, which lets you knock people prone with successful grapple checks, Strangle, preventing grappled people from talking or making verbal components, or Swallow Whole, which lets you be a vore fetishist.

I personally suggest the last one.

>>52236017
>>52236030
Thank you both kindly! This will definitely help my next character!

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>>52236082

There, there, anon.

>>52236082
Just bite the bullet and take 12 or 13 Str (depending on your starting level) during your character creation senpai, you can't just let your memes be dreams!

Or just get Piranha Strike instead.

Is there a "king of thieves" style character for Legacy yet? Feels like there should be one.

>>52236082
You could just, ya know, have a flank buddy and go unchained rogue or 3pp unchained ninja.

>>52236137
There's a 'king of thieves' NPC. But he went crazy or something, so the position is open! Hey, it could be you, anon!

>>52236109
Vorarephilia. I had to look that one up. Nice.

>>52236173

What a happy and remarkable life you must have that you needed to look up what that meant.

>>52236209
I live a sheltered life. Is that too kink, even for 4chan?

>>52236136
Having to wait until +10 BaB for it as a rogue is the worst part, desu. Never gotten to play to 14 before.

>>52236138
>want to be able to move and full attack
>but dude just flank them
???

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>>52236109
as a snek fag I also recommend nomming plenty of girls if the game is lewd, and at least one in fade to black if not.

What happens if a Zeitgeist Binder Spiritualist makes a Zeitgeist out of Carcosa?

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>>52234399

So I've done a stupid thing. I've started making a halfling two weapon fighting Unchained barbarian.

>>52236391
Does she look like that? If so, you done good.

>>52236109
But my fetish is nonlethal variants of vore.

Why does divine hunter suck compared to the regular paladin?

I'm thinking about taking a 2-level dip in divine hunter to obtain precise shot and divine grace with my bard. I've been less than combat focused, and think that I need to branch out, especially as enemies grow more difficult.

>>52236414
Then get Golden Legion's Stayed Blade.

That would let you hold someone for as long as you liked without killing them, they'd just stay stable at -1 hp

What's the longest a /pfg/ game has ran or has been running? I'm curious.

>>52236455
...That's beautiful. Does it actually work indefinitely?

More generally, is there a way to make swallow whole damage nonlethal, or to turn it off temporarily?

>>52236242
NOTHING is too fucking degenerate for 4chan.

>>52236495
Turning it off or making it nonlethal, I don't think so with this one.

But yes, Stayed Blade works indefinitely. Whenever you inflict ANY damage that would kill something, you can instead reduce them to -1hp and stable.

ANY DAMAGE. Even your goddamn digestive system. It requires no action and has no limit.

>>52236479
Does it count if it includes /pfg/ people but wasn't advertised here? If yes, my own Rise of the Jade Regents has been going for about 6 months now.

>>52236531
Good work, but I'm curious about the stability of a group pulled together from the anonymous masses of the memepits.

>>52236109
Swallow Whole kind of sucks, though. The "deal damage to escape" thing is really easy, relatively speaking.

>>52236548
It's okay, really. There's no real memes to my group all things considered.

>>52236555
Well, I think the general idea is that you don't swallow sharp objects, anon.

I wanna play a swindler.

>>52236039
Note that this only lets you turn into a snek of up to your base size, though.

>>52236834
Isn't there a belt that lets you use combat maneuvers on something and ignore any hard limits due to size?

>>52236572
Clearly, you should combine it with disarm specialisation to remove sharp objects first.

>>52236915
True.

>>52236834
>>52236886
Yeah here we go. Belt of Impossible Action. Swallow Whole uses CMB, so it's a combat maneuver.

>>52236886
>>52236926
Oh, I mean more that aesthetically speaking, a Medium snake woman is going to be kind of wimpy, you know?

The ones that most people think of are at LEAST Large size.

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What kind of helmet/hat would you recommend for a tiefling?

Is there a list of Golarion's various race allegories anywhere?

>>52234399
I want to marry Ternath and smooth over his edginess !

>>52236966
One with holes in it for their horns. When they're wearing the helmet, people assume it's just a horned helmet and that they might even be a human. When they take it off, everyone is like "oh fug"

>>52236964
Oh, you'll be large after you've eaten alright.

I meant to attach a soft vore picture but after I googled for them I couldn't stand the idea of saving one.

>>52236964
Well Greater Transformation does allow you to take any trait your DM deems appropriate to your chosen form. So just hope your DM likes you.

>>52236988
Well two mediums does add up to a Large!

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>>52236981
Pic related. Everyone assumes she just has a weird hat.

>>52237007
Those tits are way too big ! She must have back problems !

>>52237025
Dragon spines can handle the weight.

>>52237025
She's actually a dragon who used to be a goddess, so she has great big Constitution.

>>52237025

Being a dragon means you don't need to worry about things that a normal woman would.

>>52236976
>Marrying an edgelord backstabber
He'll just manipulate you into doing his bidding and/or you become sacrifice fodder

>>52237040
Eh, he seems more as the Golarion's equivalent of that weird kid that wants to shoot up the school rather than a BBEG

What kind of military unit (heavy infantry, light cavalry, skirmishers...) is best suited for hobgoblins, if you successfully integrate them into your empire,

>>52236988
With soft vore, just think of it as a full-body hug, anon.

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Will my players hate getting their asses kicked by this guy? Teleporting, throwing lightning bolts, what's the best way to do it?

>>52237091
Elemental Flux+Veiled Moon+Shattered Mirror Mystic

Can bows be made from special metals such as mithral or adamantine? It's probably a long shot, but a man can dream

>>52237132
Not those ones since bows are predominantly wood. They can be made from darkwood though.

>>52237135
Rats. As a dedicated archer I'm worried combatants might try to break my flimsy wooden bow. I suppose the best way to avoid this is to put them down at a more optimal range, but what else can I do to avoid having my expensive gear break down on me?

>>52237132
have you ever seen a bow made of metal?

>>52237132
Ah yes, the adamantine bow
So you can ... hit people with it.

I magic stopped working, all at once, during 1 minute, who would be killed?

>>52237157
I just don't want my gear sundered. Shit's expensive, and you can't slay from far away with a broken weapon.

>>52237149

It's rare that a DM has used sunder against a PC.

Carry a back up bow.

>>52237169
You can just get it Made Whole

>>52237119
>>52237091
Don't even bother with the statting, just drop abilities on there, mang.
Good place to start, though.

>>52237149
Pretty sure there's some durability enchants, and magic weapons get bonus toughness anyway. I suggest getting a melee weapon like a not-fag person would do

>>52237169
Magic weapons are more durable anyway, and it's a bow. YOu're not meant to be using it while people are in your face anyway.

>>52237172
Carry weight is a precious commodity for an archer. hard to grab a second bow among the myriad other survival items

>>52237183
A-a man must be self-reliant! I don't have access to arcane spells!

>>52237199
So ask someone else?
Hell, hire some lvl 3 bitchboi to your manservant and cast it.
It is lvl 2 spell after all

>>52237188
I have two backups! I'd carry at least two more throwing axes if I had room.

>>52237199

minor bag of holding, 1000 gold, 50 lbs extra

>>52237183
What's the pricing on an item that casts Make Whole on itself whenever it's damaged?

>>52237217
Hey, look at that. I actually have enough to afford one of those. Didn't know there was an economy version

>>52237230
Well that'd effectively be at-will. And then a little more for not needing to use it yourself I guess.

>>52237230
+10k gp

>>52237241

For sure, all of my characters will get one of these. 3lbs for 50lbs at the cheapest price. I don't usually stuff a handy haversack full in the first place, and just shelling out for another minor bag isn't too much. 20lbs less for 1lb more, but you can drop it as necessary.

One bag would contain fighting gear (spare acid flasks, bows, special material weapons and ammo, etc.) and the other would contain standard adventuring gear (bedroll, climbers kit, rations, water, etc)

>>52237230

If you go that route, 1/day will likely be enough as opposed to at will. Would be quite a bit cheaper, too, I would imagine.

>>52237258
But, action economy!

>>52237265

For sure, it's not ideal. So, it's back up gear where when shit is going wrong, then I can retrieve it. If shit is going so badly, the move action to withdraw the item is worth it, because I would not withdraw it if it wasn't (ideally speaking).

If someone has sundered/disarmed you of your main weapon, you bet it's fucking wise to spend a whole move action to fetch another.

>>52237264
Was figuring for other purposes, like manacles that you can't wear down or buildings that repair themselves, etc.

>>52237284
that's actually a really cool idea, stealing for a setting

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Fuck it, can't sleep, so figure I'll regale the thread with the latest RotJR romp.

Previously on FotJR:
>Quinn, Rubio, and Etan had fought a fake ghost and taught a kid that hookers are people too
>Sweettooth had done some detective work found a scent trail matching the cloak and informed the rest of the crew
>Ameiko had fought with Lonjiku largely in Minkaian, leading to Rubio stepping between them to defuse what looked like it was about to turn physical
>Quinn, Aster, and Tia had been talking to Ameiko in her room, giving her a massage to help with some disturbing bruises
>Rubio, tactful as ever, had burst in on them, calling out "We've got a lead!"

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>>52237297
And then, on today's episode (well, yesterday's now, but who's counting?):

>The whole room goes still as Rubio realizes what Ameiko's bruises look like, and she hides under her sheets for a minute
>Rubio manages to coax "Mei" into telling them who hurt her, and that she met them in Chopper's Alley
>She asks them to not make too much more trouble, but the party generally seems to agree that this bastard's either going to hang, or be put down while "resisting arrest"
>Tia gets posted to guard Ameiko, Etan splits off briefly to warn Sheriff Hemlock that there's a rapist on the loose
>The gang searches the alleyway, and Aster's super-senses detect something under a barrel, which Saboten lifts with her psychic arms
>It's home-drawn porn
>But it's a lead regardless, and it's got a stronger scent for Sweettooth to follow
>And there's even some tracks, which the gang finds through stacking Aid Another bonuses
>The trail heads west--toward the suspiciously-active Glassworks
>Errybody inside got fucked up by goblins
>The heroes go full Goblin Slayer mode and start tearing them apart
>Session ends with a declaration: "NO PRISONERS"

>>52237307
>Leaving out the spontaneous rap scene

>>52237321
A thousand pardons.

<Aster`> "I see we have found the fresh prints of sandpoint."
<Aster`> "To the western streets, they head forlorn and crazed, but in this alley here is where they spent most of their daze."
<Rubio> "I don't care if they plan to just hang out and relax as if they're cool, by the church, the glassworks, or even the school. It's clear to me that they're up to no good, trying to start trouble in this neighborhood."
* Aster` looks at Rubio blankly.
<Aster`> "It is one little fight, we need not yet get scared."
<Aster`> "Ameiko will not move with her father back to their lair."

>>52237326
This dumb bullshit right here, this is why TTRPGs are the best hobby.

How much coffee do you think is within reason for a fantasy workaholic to carry on his person?

>>52237367
Depends--are they Keleshite, or no?
If not, probably enough for a cup or two a day.
If they are, they should have a whole camel loaded down with coffee beans, water, and all the paraphrenalia required to make it themselves.

>>52237376
>Premium Kelish Coffee
>Provides a raise dead effect on a corpse less than 8 hours old
>If imbibed by a living, non-keleshite creature, must make a DC 20 Fortitude save or die
>On a successful save, become confused and hasted for 2d6 minutes.

>>52237376
He's not a native, no, but something akin to option two sounds closer to who he his.

>>52237393
Found your theme song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrW6JpeRc8Q

>>52237367
1x Decanter of Endless?

>>52237376
Alternately, an item to summon Juan Valdez?

>>52237395
I'm fine with this actually.
>Hey hero, wanna go drinking?
>sure
>orders coffee

>Find myself making another homebrew class
I am a monster.

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What would be the fantasy version of a Grey Goo?

>>52237493
simulacra clone armies

>>52237493
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/constructs/gray-goo/

>>52237493
The Smooze.

Dragon greentext when

>>52237552
never i bet

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>go to Imgur to upload portrait

>spend two hours going through most popular posts

Does anyone else fall into this?

>>52237570
no

>>52237552
>>52237553

they're all asleep give em till later today

>>52237496

Interesting. Would a dynasty of ice sorceress who uses this to increase the size of their armies make sense?

>>52237807
don't actually use simulacra clone armies

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>>52237812

Why not?

>>52237822
because its autistic.

>>52237552
NOW

DragonGameA Episode 6: http://pastebin.com/7Ft3J8ND

>Zev gives everyone breakfast in bed (or chair in Astarte's case)
>Remember that the assassin's severed arm had a ring on it
>Conspiracy theories formed about his ties to Sir Cross. Astarte builds a couple others over the course of the night.
>Team goes out to gather intel
>Turns out Cross is a workaholic and he'll also be attending a big week-long ball the day after tomorrow in honor of the Dragonslayer
>While this is going on, Sir Blakely, one of the other knights present in the fight and Cross' former page, will be guarding the Hoard in question.
>Plan formed for Atolm and Lameeka to possibly "visit" Cross' mansion while he's absent that day.
>Celisse decides to ask Darling to accompany them out today. What a slut.
>Visit a nearby jeweler to verify the ring and its crest
>Turns out the ring is from House Morilla alright...from about 50 years ago. It was changed when they married around that time.
>Celisse confirms that all noble bloodlines have their histories recorded in an archive somewhere in the Senate Square.
>Learn fun facts about the house, like how that one marriage that changed the crest was to a minor noble who was part of the Pathfinder Society.
>Learn that Sir Cross also hates poor people apparently. Nothing else riveting there.
>With all things settled, the team decides that tonight will be as good a night as any to begin canvassing Cross' house, maybe even trail Blakely to the hoard...

Session Ends early because of Eagle had sleep issues.

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>the average male app

I'm posting it again! You've been tasked with taking /pfg/ applicants and making a campaign using characters as NPCs.

Who is your:
>Mentor
>Contact NPC
>Mission Giver
>Leader of the Important Organization
>(3) NPCs traveling with the party
>Minor Villain
>Big Bad

>>52237894
(a list of meme characters)

>>52237900
>>52237894
People are only going to remember memes when asked to remember 9 apps that aren't theirs.

Do you think it would be ok to take Reclaiming Your Roots in Legacy of Fire but having both your parents have died, and the one who revealed the secret to you was your old grandmother? I like characters with kindly old grandmothers they have to take care of.

>>52237307
>that there's a rapist on the loose
Oh god dammit.

Is there a spell that causes mass of people lose the ability to distinguish friend from foe and start killing each other madly?

>>52238168
confusion

>>52238168
There's a poison.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/afflictions/poison/ragespittle/

>>52238176
confusion is still confusion
>>52238182
this is what I was looking for kinda
Now I just need to make it into a gas weapon of somekind

>>52238194
That's pretty easy.
http://archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentMiscDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Poison%20diffuser
http://archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentMiscDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Alchemical%20candle%20wax
http://archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentMiscDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Poison%20belcher

There's also Fury Gas if you're specifically fighting Orcs. http://archivesofnethys.com/PoisonDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Fury%20gas

What are my options for boosting my brawler's unarmed strike damage?

So far I have Enlarge person, Brawling armor, AoMF and Piranha strike. The other players say I should get elemental d6s for my AoMF but I think straight enhancement bonuses seem like a more intelligent investment.

>>52238273
dragon style

>>52238273
>I think straight enhancement bonuses seem like a more intelligent investment
They are, 100%. Attack bonuses are serious fucking business.

That said if you want more punch, you might try Dragon Style and Dragon Ferocity for 2x str damage (or dex if you add dex to damage)

>>52238273
If they're using Piranha Strike they're more dex-based than str-based, so Dragon isn't going to be as effective as Jabbing Style.

>>52238301
>>52238306
Yeah I'm using dex because my gm is under the impression that extra attacks from flurry count as off hand which only receives a portion of power attack's usual damage. He did give me an agile AoMF early on though so it wasn't so bad.

>>52238306
why are they using enlarge person then? Doesn't that lower dex?

>>52238273
Accuracy is always good. It helps especially your iteratives strike true. If you 'average' your damage out (ie; DPR) you quickly see that getting, say, 80%/55%/30% on your last three attacks is a lot better than getting, say, 60%/35%/10%

>>52238337
I'm level 4 so enlarge person boosts my damage die to 2d6 and grants me reach. I'm not sure if its mathematically sound but it feels like its worth the -1 damage and -2 atk.

>>52238168
There's a Sphere of Power Mind effect that does that.

>>52238337
It would increase the damage die for the fists though. Which is less important since the character is a Brawler. Probably just a case of "Hey, what's a good buff spell? Enlarge Person? Sure, sounds good."

>>52238330
Anon...
>A monk applies his full Strength bonus to his damage rolls for all successful attacks made with flurry of blows, whether the attacks are made with an off-hand or with a weapon wielded in both hands.
Being dex-heavy isn't bad, but that's a +1 on your AoMF you could use for something else, even if it's just another +1 to attack and damage.

>>52238373
generally no, being a dex based melee just isn't worth it

Is this party balanced?
>Level 1
>Rolled stats 4d6 drop lowest
>Fighter, Ranger, wizard, cleric

>>52238373
Never rely on damage dice. My highest DPR unarmed character has a damage die of 1d3

>>52238477
Well, there ARE specific builds where this is in fact false... but they tend to be very... different.

For the *MOST* part, ignoring damage dice is sound advice.

>>52238497
fuck you my goal is to throw 100+ d6 around

>>52238474
>Melee damage, Ranged damage, Tank, Utility caster
Very very balanced.

>>52238549
>TANK

STOP FUCKING SAYING THIS SHIT HOLY FUCKING SHIT KILL YOURSELF

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A TANK IN PATHFINDER

REEEEEEEEEEEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>52238477
I wish to learn of your secrets.

>>52238506

Are you going to shout Tora Tora Tora while doing the punch thing?

>>52238506
Anon, would you prefer having 100d6 or 1d6+500?

>>52238474
>Level 1
>Rusty Dagger Shanktown
No.
>Rolled stats 4d6 drop lowest
>RNG
No.
>Fighter, Ranger, wizard, cleric
>Tier 4, Tier 3/4, Tier 1, Tier 1
No.

>>52238556
Besides Warder.

>>52238561
For my entertainment, 100d6

I know its objectively worse but i don't fucking care

>>52238560
no, i will MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA

>>52238556

Every party needs a tank toon, anon.

>>52237493
Kitsune posters.

>>52238577
jump off a bridge mmo fag

>>52238575
even then not fucking really, marks are just a debuff

>>52238568
>>Tier 4, Tier 3/4, Tier 1, Tier 1
Melee and martials are effectively the same until level 7.

>>52238607
So it starts off imbalanced because everyone could die to a random hit, then has maybe three levels before it's imbalanced again.

>>52238580

Nani?

>>52238687
mmo fags get out

>>52238607
>>52238643
yes yes m/cd very insight

Airships, yes or no?

Big, giant freighters that roam the empire, moving from city to city just above the miasma as the safest, if slowest, way to get from one fief to the next. They're ancient creations, made by Amurabi himself and maintained by golems that are slowly breaking down.

I'm torn. On the one hand, I never really get to use airships. On the other, they're weird to implement, they have strange implications for the world, and I'm not looking for sky pirates, fookin' or no.

I've been sitting on Puella for too long apparently

>>52238804
Have you considered suicide?

>>52238804

No, that is a terrible idea and makes your setting something it should not.

Furthermore, don't make Amurabi the source of everything. He fucked the world up, but he also didn't build it. If you need something for the Miasma, have a network of luminous crystals (sunstone, or Ionite after the sun god) that produce a miasma-free region within a certain radius.

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>>52238804
Only if there are dorafs and we can get some Granblue up in this.

>>52238928
>but he also didn't build it
To be fair to my 5 am, hungover thought,

He was the Emperor of the World who had mastered magic.

>>52238949
stop doraf spoting

>>52238579
>endlessly multiplying fluffy tails
Yes please.

>>52238949

Those are in Blood Mountain, not Cruella DeVille

>>52238951

Mastery of magic does not mean a mastery of engineering, it would also be super interesting to encounter other legendary figures who met fates worse than death.

Like, Gwyn is the head honcho of Dark Souls, but you also meet Seath, Artorias, Big Hat Logan and Gwindolin who are also immensely important in their own spheres!

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>>52239021
I'll be working on them regardless, when I get my full char art folder again.

>>52238949
Not gunna lie, was watching Granblue this morning

>>52239057
>watching
There's an anime?

>>52239057

>Animated Draph

Oh gosh

>>52239057

What is Lady Camarah's type for a boytoy?

>>52238700

Toon is a perfectly respectable way to describe your avatar.

>>52239178
>>>/v/

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>>52239178

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>>52239157
She likes 'em Shinjilicious!

>>52238576
Unarmed won't really do it unless you're a colossal creature with... the right upgrades.

Now, certain firearms and heavy weapons on the other hand... ideally the hand of an Aegis actually... Well, that's a whole other story!

>>52239087
there are two episodes on crunchyroll

>>52239157
strong sword arm

If one of my party members is an d dhampir and I channel positive energy to heal allies do I damage them?

>>52239087
It's going to air shortly. There are two pilot episodes out.

>>52239098
Sadly, pilots didn't have any draphs, it ended after leaving Zinkenstil.

>>52239335
>If I use positive energy on something that takes damage from positive energy, do I damage them with positive energy?

>>52239335
>>52239356
Nope! You can either heal living, or hurt undead (which dhampir count as for the purposes of positive energy), but not both.

>>52239335
Yes, unless you take the Selective Channeling feat and exclude them.

>>52239298

Are there any named noblewomen who like a man that can shoot hot loads, with accuracy, at range?

What AP waifus would you like to see getting dicked by a muscle futa? before you ask its not extreme muscle.

>>52239397
Muscle shota would be better.

>>52239388
Dhampir are living, not undead.

>>52239394
not yet

>>52239413
kys my dude

>>52239394
Nah they're all into /ss/.
Nazi uniforms only.

>>52239397

Greta, absolutely Greta.

W-why do you ask?

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>>52239178

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>>52239394
You can have the noblewomin.

I want to pet the Cat. If you know what I mean.

>>52239414
"Though a living creature, a dhampir reacts to positive and negative energy as if it were undead"

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>>52239427
Idunno anon take a gander

>>52239432
Which Cat? There are accidentally two

Wanted the Cat/Hawk naming gimmick

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Sub lads? How can I make the most explosive magic user possible in pathfinder?

>>52239432
i want to smash the r@

>>52239435
>"Though a living creature, a dhampir reacts to positive and negative energy as if it were undead"
>"Though a living creature"
>"a living creature"
>"living creature"
>"living"
Nice. It reacts in the sense that it heals from negative and harms from positive, not that it's considered undead by channel energy.

>>52239397
Greta, Nadya, and Sylga, with Shensen in the background passed out or something
Not because I like Shensen, but because I dislike her.

>>52239463
crossblooded sorcerer with orc/draconic and blood havok

W E D O T H I S E V E R Y T H R E A D

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>>52239453
Both is good.

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Sup lads? How can I make the most explosive magic user possible in pathfinder?

>>52239447

You're buying a commission where your muscular futa OC fucks the silver-haired Winter wolf Greta?