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New Death Army When Edition

>resources
pastebin.com/qCZb0mvh

>General's Handbook pdf
mega.nz/#!DxRGmTZL!x_L0eobCjr4qrF7enhVlZ2DffTtRa3hdDrc5RctcAbE

>army builder
scrollbuilder.com

>Current Rumors
http://www.tga.community/forums/topic/217-the-rumour-thread/

Old thread:
>>52196837
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>>52204374
Death from the skies army.
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>>52204523
It still does. Remember that a majority of the shitters in this thread are the very definition of /tg/ outsiders. AoS isn't a loved game, and most of its biggest supporters in these threads are the faggots that would get cyberbullied outside of their containment thread.
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>>52204573
>implying Mantic would make that garbage

>>52204590
...I mean, she was Forging a Russia Narrative pretty hard.
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>>52204523
>>52204554
>>52204573
>>52204590
>>52204603
>Fantasy grognards are still butthurt two years later
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>>52204590
>herd mentality
>contrarianism
>unironical "badass" "epic" "xd"
>change and diversity for their own sake is good
>extremely defensive and elitist to the point they project boogeymen
>can't fuel arguments without hiding behind ad hominem and the supposed subjectivity of an opinion
>criticism isn't allowed to exist
>blame things for something unrelated to them for the sole purpose of justifying a change
yes
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>>52204590
Good lord Jesus Christ, why would you shit all over the thread.
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>>52204637

Man, is it lovely these corpse-fuckers (because remember, you're just humping on a dead game's-WHFB- corpse and trying to think it's good) rant and rant impotently.

>>52204554
>t. WHFB player.

FTFY
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>>52204750
sup eight-chan

still butthurt and bragging about your crusades in shitposting aos threads?
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>>52204744
Eh, stop hating. Game is okay.
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>>52204759
Don't know, by the way, has your mama changer your diapers already, kiddy?

>>52204771
>Implying you actually would notice the difference, you shit-eater.

Kek.
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>>52204785
>Self projecting.

Just go back to your hell-hole, bitch.
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>>52204428
THIS SILENCE OFFENDS SLAANESH!
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It's going to be one of those threads, isn't it.
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>>52204428
I think they look pretty cool...
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>>52204807
You're not allowed to do that, haven't you read anon above proclaiming these steam dwarvesto be horrible swj-supporting, tumblerina-pleasing abominations?
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>>52204826
What the fuck are you spewing, eight-chan?
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>>52204802
Yep. Off to a good start already.
I wonder why steampunk shit triggers these people so badly. You'd think some clockfop murdered their parents with a cogwheel.
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>>52204838
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>>52204839
anon, they are eight-chan crusaders and he is the worst of them for being non-subtle

mass report and hide
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Is it me or did most TK warscrolls just get divided trough Deathrattle and Deathmages?
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>>52204835
Each to their own, I suppose, but I really enjoy the heavy armor on those guys.
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>>52204855
I am hesitant to ask, but in the seven hells is eight-chan and why haven't I heard of it outside of AoS threads?
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>>52204860
Elaborate.
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>>52204872
another taiwanese image board where spamming /pol/ shit makes you cool
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>>52204878
are you fucking retarded? people on 4chan use triggers all the time to mock sjws.
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>>52204884
Check the aos app.
Compendium/TK stuff is now listed under Deathrattle, Deadmages, Soulblight.

Did it always work like this?
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>>52204887
Okay, fair enough, but I'd appreciate if he fucked of to there instead of polluting this thread then.
I mean, I'm not even mad anymore, just sorta resigned and weary. Considering the past history of AoS threads this is a mild annoyance at best.
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>>52204909
Can't say, haven't used the app before, but it is an interesting note.
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>>52204928
damn dude top quality how ever will I recover from this devastating insult.
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>>52204428
They look fucking cool..
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What does tumblr have to do with any of this?
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>>52204428
These things are pretty sweet imo, I'll pick up a start collecting box if they get one.

On that note, how great is it that you can basically own a 400-800 point army for 50 bucks. Especially since I like a ton of different shit.
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>>52204984
same insult twice? Come on dude you gotta try harder then that.
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>>52204990
I'm thinking of getting a start collecting box just for the models.

I don't play AoS, but those look really pretty
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>>52204989
The asshole is just using one of the least inspired or imaginative types of insults available to human society - that of comparing those he doesn't like (in this case, people who are discussing the subject of this general in anything that minimally, down to the quantum level, resembles a positive tone) to people from another group that has in the past been known to hold opinions that contradict their own.
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>>52205001
Slaves to Darkness: 600
Skaven Pestilliens: 540
Nurgle: 500
Flesh Eaters: 680
Skeleton Horde: 540
Sylvaneth: 520
SCE: 620
Seraphon: 540
Greenskins: 560
Tzeentch: 760

And those are just the boxart builds, not even building the more expensive options.
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Trying to think up the best blood knight list how is this? Other than a list of just blood knights VLOAT, Manfred acolyte on horse and bale wind vortex
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Threads like these makes me believe that this board is abandoned in terms of janitors and mods.
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>>52205031
I love em, you get the full kits too so it's basically just a cheap bundle.

Picked up Skeleton Horde myself, the Mortarchs are a blast to paint! I absolutely recommend it.
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I love how our new shitposter is some retarded slav, english-as-a-third-language phoneposter

He's cute
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>>52205068
How so?
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>>52205055
Observe, as he continues his unimaginative spiel. The lack of creativity on display here is quite astounding, to be honest. By my count, there are, including the post that this one replies to, 6 posts that refer to the ones they link as "tumblr". There are many other insults that do not directly mention tumblr and yet reference it obliquely, although I am perhaps being generous with that word, as the statements made are about as verbally creative as an Ork's references to a grot in any warhammer universe.
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>>52205090
y-you're tumblr!
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Maybe if we all just admit we're massive faggots this whole thing gets solved

>"Because it's didn't cover all flaws of rules by large scale of battle"
>Tumblr posting
Alright some people are bigger faggots than others
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>>52205001
Daemons of tzeentch, FEC, and sylvaneth are above 500 just from memory
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>>52205119
Honestly, I kinda miss math-anon. While the sword vs. scythes thing was very dumb, at least his theories got some discussion going.
This guy is just vaguely annoying.
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>>52204590
Yes
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>74 replies
>20 posters

Our little phoneposter is doing a lot of work!
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>>52205095
Why no way?
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>>52204428
fucking hell this is goign to empty the pockets of mummies everywhere. And they thought skylanders was bad holy shit.
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>>52205137
That's 7.

>>52205145
True.
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>>52205184
Yes. Exactly like that, you're continuing your streak wonderfully.
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>>52205169
>>52205074
Don't listen to the moron, he's been at it since yesterday.
The list is fine, if very boring.
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>>52205104
I don't see how that is related to Start Collecting boxes or anything really.

The boxes are a great way to get people into the hobby wether they like paiting or playing. GW knows what they're doing on that front at least.
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>>52205197
>Can find something better in Death
Please
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>>52205150
I do not miss him, but I would like to see him return just now, if only for the sake of seeing that asshole react to just how seriously some people take this game. Also, the ability to out-faggot the biggest faggot in this thread will be useful in driving him off.

Mathanon is not the hero this thread wants, but he is the one it needs. At least for now.
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Don't respond to the shitposter. Do not feed the troll. It will die without the attention it requires.
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>>52205074
Looks fine if you're a fan of the Blood Knights, hard to say if it's better then pure Soulblight. How do you feel about Neferata and the Mortis Engine?
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>>52205258
But he will continue to post here.

So when he does, report him. All of you. This thread doesn't have many posters in it, so we'll only manage to get the attention of what mods there are here if we all pitch in.

So yeah, don't reply to him. That'll only fuel his fire. But "don't reply" doesn't mean "do nothing". Report, report, report, until the mods shove a banhammer up his ass.
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>>52205090
>retarded
>english-as-a-third-language
Excellent logic.
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>>52205214
>The list is fine
Nice lie
>>52205235
Switch to new arnies.
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>>52205264
>wants and needs
>when it's 'deserves' and 'needs'

shitty accuracy too.
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>>52205258
Where is THE shitposter? I see shitposters in droves.
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You metal wazzocks are all the same!
NO BEER!
NO HONOR!
NOT EVEN A FUCKEN BEARD!!!?!
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>>52205392
>beer
>honor
>from fedora's army
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>>52201115
>>52201149
http://www.blacklibrary.com/aos-reading-order.html

This too

>>52198179
In AoS the Chorfs and regular Dwarfs have merged quite a bit, look at the Fyreslayers for instance.

>>52202481
Thanks anon!
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I like AoS and think the lore so far has been very original and interesting.

I like how the Stormcasts are actual humans with histories and personality.

I like the concept of the 8 realms and how it lets players build unique armies the way they want.

Also I like how mad it gets people. That most of all.
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>>52205412
TRUE
D A W I
A
W
I
KHAZUKAN KAZAKIT HA!!
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>>52205450
Honestly, I agree, although I haven't read the novels.

The thing I like most about the realms is that you can just come up with whatever sort of geography you can think of, at pretty much any scale.

>mfw the other replies to your post and mine prove the point of your last statement beautifully
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>>52205450
I agree, but stormcasts have a terrible design.

I do still prefer the old world to the mortal realms, however.
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>>52205522
Old world = relatable. New world = more room for creative "mah dudes" stories.
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>>52205495
I think the whole mix and match nature of the realms and how diverse they can be is the prime reason why an AoS RPG would be so great. Imagine how unique Duardin from the different realms would be all in a party together, or humans, or Aelfs.

Come on GW.
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>>52205525
On the other hand, the mortal realms are still pretty unfleshed. I do wonder, will we get a full map of chamon with this battletome as we did with battletome stormcasts?
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>>52205545
I don't understand the idea that AoS is the "super-heroes" setting.

You know the bloodbound are just normal dudes right? They're a bunch of Mad Max apocalypse survivors.

There's also plenty of humans around too, most of the races are just average soldiers from their respective races.
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>>52205545
>super-soldiers
>killed by ghouls
>"no they don't count"
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>>52205565
I did more RPGs and am quite active in the RPG design side of things, so here's my input: having a "tight" setting can sometimes be a detriment for people to come up with their own stories in a setting. A loose setting can allow quite a bit of room to make your own NPCs, factions and such.

Forgotten realms = tight setting. Planescape = loose setting. I guess it's the same here: I prefer AoS to be kept loose, so we can pretty much make up any kind of stories as to why stormcasts are fighting kharadrons and why nurgle is allied to nagash, for instance.
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>>52205584
The bloodbound for born into that life, they haven't known anything other than the camps and the raiding parties and the war, Thostos goes on a whole thing about it in the second book.

>most of the races are just average soldiers from their respective races.

All the Duardin, Aelfs and Humans that aren't Stormcasts?
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>>52205545
>Except all "your dudes" should be super-soldiers to fit the setting.
Ah, that nonsense again. Stellar job.
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>>52205545
>He thinks tabletop games and videogames are directly comparable
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>>52205598
>ghouls
>super soldiers
>in anything but their own minds

I hope you're enjoying your bounteous feasts of man-flesh, you filthy degenerate.
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>everyone in AoS are super soldiers!
>except all the races that clearly aren't

Yes, shitposters, I'm sure that 3 foot tall grot wielding a shard of broken glass is absolutely a super soldier.
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>>52205642
he can wound dragons on a 4+
previously they did on a 6+

he is clearly the supersoldier version of his old self
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>>52205653
Said dragon had 4-5 wounds. He now has 12-16.
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>>52205655

Alright then, I eagerly await the 7 foot tall plate-armoured goblin, any day now.
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>>52204802
You can tell when GW's made something good because all the grognards (the ones that like 9th age not as a game, but as a form of protest) lash out. Like, when fyreslayers came out we didn't get a surge of shitposting, because old WHFB players saw them, thought "AOS is shit, knew it", and moved on. But when slyvaneth, iornjawz and now dorfskypirates appear these people get scared that AOS might be good and start rattling their cages.
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>>52205661
that's because he too is a super version of himself
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>>52205545
>Except all "your dudes" should be super-soldiers or have no relevance in the story what-so-ever.

I got a question. If the Stormcast are all the best human fighters, does that mean the Freeguild are made up of all the shitty left overs?
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Please stop replying to grognards
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>>52205690
No, they are the best fighters and Sigmar pirated them into his own army
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>>52205640
So, uh, who exactly isn't a supersoldier then? Because literally everybody can wound dragons and kick the Stormcasts nutsack (as seen everywhere).
At this point the term is meaningless unless you narrow it down.
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>>52205702
>Tries to equate Ironjawz and Sylvaneth to the clearly inferior WoW "Counterparts".

KEK.
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>>52205713
Anon, he posted a picture of a Greatsword, which is one of the best 1-wound infantry units available.

Actually try to make your bait well-crafted next time, and try to actually look into the details of what you're replying to. Y'know, so you don't look like a dumbass.
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Just to clarify, because I'm coming into AoS from 40k: Heroes can't join units in AoS, right?
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>>52205619
The WoC were champions of the dark gods, willing servants who did what they did for ascension and glory. Most bloodbound don't even know where the phrase "Blood for the Blood God" comes from.

>Old armies with no future support. In fluff they are npc who cannot do anything (sources: End Timez, Age of Chaos).

You say that literally as a new Duardin faction gets announced, one that thrived during the Age of Chaos. Come on mate have some self-awareness.
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>>52205690
No. Stormcast are those people that died in some heroic fashion and whose souls were scooped up by Sigmar to pour into newly-made demigod bodies.
A freeguild soldier that does some hero-level shit might well find himself face-to-face with his god and get told to get back into the fight.
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>>52205737
I play Dispossessed and Deathrattle.
I win games regularly.
Fite me.
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>>52205663
You got it wrong anon, you can tell when GW does something good when people recognise the old things in it
>warhammer quest
>hammerhal low levels
>tzaangors
>NOT!ariel
>airships awaited for years
>gryphs and gryphs accessories
>reintroduction of points
>reintroduction of magic lores
>reintroduction of magic items
>reintroduction of characters traits
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>>52205743

Yeah they can't, on the other hand, even the weakest hero has more wounds than chapter masters.
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Hmm what changed in this time? Can you guess my little grognard friends?
Nobody played your little game, it was always trash and they got rid of it
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>>52205743
No, they can't.
You can attempt to block line of sight, however, and some heroes have toughness benefits from babysitting a unit (Necromancers, for example).
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>>52205737
SCE are actually less powerful since their new tome dropped. You know this, right?
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>>52205753

I actually prefer the idea that they can't join units. Seems like it'd make hero vs hero duels far easier, and let's be honest, everyone wants to see their army's leaders slug it out.
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>>52205764

Of course he doesn't, nor he cares. Still it's funny seeing him flailing around and doing mental gimnastics, I correct him just to see how low he can fall in the next reply.
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>>52205757
Oh no.
Your barbs have gotten to my very core.
My reaction is exquisite.
My eyes are rolling in my head so much my eye sockets are cutting furrows in my corneas.
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>>52205790
Good, please die soon too.
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>>52205779
And they are useful. Not top tier, but a solid mid-tier force. But then again top tier are the big monsters, not regular/elite infantry
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>>52205799
Alright then, I'll just kill myself.
Why don't you join me? After all, you'll actually be doing something worthwhile!
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>>52205757
>game is failing due to entry cost and balance
>quick! scrap its fluff, surely it will help getting rid of its main players retentive factor
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>>52205803
You do know that the first of thos three months had AoS releases and in these last three months we've been dominated by AoS releases, and still had growth, quite notable; or that AoS is the 4th best selling game in the USA so...
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>>52205267
What do they add? Manfred has the reroll bubble, Net has the neg to hit, the mortis engine does a OK shooting against low brav enemies and a 1 hit wonder on the rest, couldn't justify its cost. What do you think?
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>>52205820
Nah, I still need to do a few more inspections for the IRS this month. Now that is depressing, but one has to be a productive member of society, lucky you're just a dreg with obligations nor ties.
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>>52205326
Ways wrong with the list? For a blood knight list,?
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>>52205736
If the Greatswords are so good, why did Sigmar need to replace them with the Stormcast?

Do the Freeguild do anything of importance or do they just die and suck up to the Stormcast?
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>>52205860
First three months. Read, you incompetent imbecile. June to september were AoS dominated releases.

Also, please drop the kirby grox-shit. He's gone already.
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I know a lot of people like the looser setting of AoS but IMO it really isn't great, because it gives no sense of scale to everything, no battles or anything really matter because there is an essentially infinite supply of armies and areas to fight over
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>>52205840
He keeps going on about old armies being no longer viable because "something, something, supersoldiers". Just ignore him.
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>>52205846
They build and defend the cities.

Basically, the campaigns of Order go something like this:
>Scouting forces, pretty much whatever you have on hand. Some forces are better for certain tasks than others, but really, the army you have is never the army you want.
>Stormcast, possibly with auxiliary forces or local defenders of absolutely any kind. Stormcast are the vanguard, they go in and fuck everything up.
>Various other forces, sent in for cleanup and establishing supply lines. The Freeguild are only sometimes part of this.
>Defense of captured assets and rebuilding. Here's where the Freeguild get shit done: they dig in, fix any important shit the Stormcast broke and fuck over anyone that tries to cut off the advance of their allies.

After that, they build cities on important non-agricultural assets and the Freeguild, Ironweld Arsenal and local forces are charged with defending these locations. So yeah, they do important stuff, but it's at the back of the fighting, so they don't get the focus because they're not GLORIOUS CRUSADERS.
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>>52205924
What a waste of a nice response and near-perfect summary.
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So my jungle-based Destruction army is gonna use Bonesplittaz and Spiderfang Grots.

But how should I convert ogres to being jungle-dwellers?
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>>52205924
If you think the guy you replied to gives any shit about the accuracy of your post or could be convinced of anything, you've got another thing coming.
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>>52205885
>No sense of scale
>>52205495 here, that's my main problem with the setting. I like that the players get to make the scale what they want, but I'd like the bits I read in Battletomes and such to have a more properly defined scale so I can work out how much higher or lower the stakes are in any one story.
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>>52205956
Lizardmen bits.
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>>52205943
>>52205957
Aw fuck, now that's just depressing.

>>52205956
Green Stuff (or any modelling putty, really) is your best friend in the world here. Vines should be piss-easy to sculpt.
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>That beautiful line of [Deleted]

Finally the shitter got shitcanned.
Also 46/138 posts, what a fucking no-lifer.
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This thread belongs to HASHUT
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>>52205956
>>52205965
>>52205973

Yeah, go Full Aztec with them. After all, human sacrifice is only one step removed from also eating the sacrifice.
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>>52205989

Hashut a bitchhhhhhhh, Gorkamorka 4 life.
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>>52205956
Cannibalist abos covered in tatoos and bone fetish

leadbelchers are gigantic blowpipes
they ride jaguars-themed mournfangs and sheeit
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>>52206003
GREENSKIN SLAVES LEAVE REEEEEEE
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>>52206022
>>52206003
We just got rid of one spammy autist.
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>>52206022

Those are some nice ziggurats.

Would be a shame if someone...summoned a hand of gork to smash them up.
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I want to see a Realm of Beasts human tribe.
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PLEASE GW I NEED MY ELVEN RELEASE SOON
I WILL SPEND HUNDREDS ON NEW ELF SCULPTS
PLEASE
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>>52205984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usfiAsWR4qU
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>>52206048
WE WILL BUILD A NEW ONE REEEEEEE
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>>52205924
So basically, the Freeguild does all the grot work while the Stormcast do all the important stuff.
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Welcome to the blandest backstory since seraphon
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>>52206337
>Dreaming space toads is bland
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>>52206337
>aether-gold
>gaseous gold


what

just what
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>>52206337
>Aether-Gold

FUCK YES I love magical gold
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>>52206349
Give me back my cities and my spawning pools reeeee
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>>52206391
>>52206370
>>52206337
So it's basically Ur-Gold.

Gotcha.

You think the Aether-Gold turned them into Broken-Lords like air beings inside their armour? Makes sense why they would make the armor so anthropomorphic.
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>>52206337
I beg to differ? This is a seed. What is aether gold? Where did they hid in the age of chaos? How is the gas the basis of their culture? Do they defend the source of the gas to death?

I think it's perfectly fine.
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So squats went from bikers to being pirates. Both were bandans, so am ok with it. So many exo armor dudes and the hvy weapon ones look just like squat thunderers art from 2ed.

I do not play AoS, but I am going to buy a lot of those dudes to run as counts as marines.
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>>52206407
I tink it works revers how magic worked on chaos dwarfs. that magic turned them to stone. This turns them slowly in to gold smoke.
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Ok guys, I just got my ass handed to me on a table going up against 2x 30 ghouls, a necro on horse, a ghoul king on foot, and 2 ghoul heroes, as a stormcast. Takeaways? Liberators are surprisingly tanky, especially on terrain cover, and rerolling 1s on saves. Lord celestant on dracoth is basically untouchable on terrain, with sigmarite shield. Retributors are tissue paper vs. hordes.

Here's my new list:

Leaders
Lord Celestant On Dracoth (220)
- General
- Tempestos Hammer & Thundershield
- Trait: Champion of the Realms - Stormcast Eternals
- Artefact: Armor of Silvered Sigmarite
- Dracoth Trait: Thunder Caller
Lord Castellant (100)
- Mystic Light: Fury Brand
Lord Celestant (100)

5 x Liberators (100)
10 x Liberators (200)

Units
2 x Concussors (280)

Total: 1000/1000

So the idea is to put the 10 man liberator with castellant as a tarpit on objectives, the other liberator unit held in reserve to create choke points, and the LCoD, concussors and lord celestant on foot scoot around the board or even deepstrike in to fuck up their wizards and heroes.

Is this a viable plan?
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>>52206450
Well, first, you have two relics but no battalion to allow a second relic, so the list is illegal.
That out of the way:
- Why the Lord-Celestant on foot? He's pretty worthless withoug being general or having Consumate Commander on your actual general. There are other heroes for the same price that are way better.
- Champion of the Realms? Really?
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>>52206525
Right, I forgot. Damn, this means the castellant is pretty useless out of giving +1 saves and heals on 7s.

Champion of the realm gives +1 attack. With strife ender, that's +2 attacks. That's 5 +d3 attacks on a charge. I figured that'd help with killing stuff. No?

What to replace lord celestant on foot with?
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>>52206370
You know that every element can be a gas if hot enough, right?

>the chemistry knowledge of this guy
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>>52206555
Dafuck am I talking about. No strife ender. Just +1 attack.
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>>52205984
>>52206114
Can anyone explain to me what happened?
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>>52205670
If everyone is super, no-one will be...
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>Ctrl + F
>(dead)
>1 of 61

fuck he was desperate
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>>52206613
Shitter spent 4 threads in a row "arguing" with everyone taking about 1/3 of the posts repeating himself.
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>>52206629
>almost all of the replies are gone on complaining about the airship model

jesus fuck it really was a samefag all along
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>>52206650
Previous thread dropped nearly a hundred posts too...
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>>52206650
Janitors confirmed for AoS fans.
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>>52206650
>>52206661

I just can't understand why anyone would bother.
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>>52206650
Its one guy
He calls stuff super soldiers etc
His posts are easy to spot, please dont reply to him in the future
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>>52206411
It's just unobtanium. A magical material with whatever properties are required to make the idea work (Dwarfs with airships? Let's give them, uh, air-gold. Genius).

I mean sure, if you just want a hook it's pretty good. It's so vague it could be anything. But it's not exactly good writing.
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>>52206736
This, don't come blaming us at /whfb/ plox.
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>>52206337
Do the dwarfs call everything of value a type of gold like we do or something?
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>death gets ignored
>it updates itself

I really hope the cruel GW gods are watching
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Sup, /tg/. Order player here. Why would I run a Luminark over a Cannon and a foot mage? It just seems like a bad deal.

The Luminark costs more for a guaranteed 6 wounds on the all of one turn it's not going to get targeted down like crazy. It can't claim cover, either.

Meanwhile, the cannon + mage has less wounds on each individual part, but has the MSU approach allowing it to force the enemy to waste shots. Both halves are easier to hide, and to claim a good save with via cover.
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>>52206764
What makes you think he was a slav?
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>>52207026
Hes a known autist who spergs out and samefags his posts over and over to make it look like people are agreeing with him etc
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>>52206743
>implying Aether-Gold isn't the essence of Balthazar Gelt, which explains the alchemy and general advancement in technology with its use

Search your feelings, you know it to be true
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>>52204860
Well, duh. They're getting scrapped and forced out of the game when Death actually gets some more legitimate battletomes. But the general roles of Spooky Skellingtons, Spooky Elite Skellingtons, and Spooky Wizard Skellingtons, etc will probably end up sticking around, so they're laying out a rough framework to later get repaved into whatever it becomes.

Settra doesn't kneel for this shit, and you will never see the undead legions of Nehekhara again.
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>>52207166
Settra will be back, eventually. Neferata somehow survived, so Settra could just as easily be written back into the lore as they never outright killed him.
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>>52207046
I have a feeling I may know this guy in his original habitat. If you think his English is abysmal, let me assure you that his command of his mother tongue is equally bad.
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>>52204428
I'd assume Start Collecting would be
> smallest airship
> 10 pirates
> 5 heavy weapon guys, or 3 bubble boys
> 1 character

However that sounds way too much good value now that I think about it.
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>>52207102
They also had a ship called "Wrath of Chamon", chamon being the wind of metal.
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>>52205581
Maybe it's just me, but that's never really been an issue. Especially since the Old World still had plenty of room for "Your Dudes" if you wanted them. That's basically the entire purpose of the Border Princes, for example. Hell, my old Empire army which has better rules in AoS almost made more sense in the Old World. A technologically advanced city in the Borderlands who were led by heretics banished from the colleges of Nuln who fused gunpowder with madness in the creation of daemon engines to defend the territory from the greenskin hordes as well as neighbors they viewed as jealous of their secrets and likely to do anything to steal them.

Basically, Chaos Renegades but in Fantasy. Heavily inspired by the idea of "Demonic Revolutionary War" from Sleepy Hollow.
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>>52206555
>castellant is pretty useless
Uh-huh.
As for the mounted Lord-Celestant, he'll never do as much killing as you want him to anyway, so might as well make him a better buffer and grab either Reckless, Stallwart or Consumate, since +1A does not measure up to a reroll charges bubble, a +1 to all saves bubble or a second command ability.
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>>52206650
Doesn't mean the airship and the BARROOOOON MAN don't look like shit. The airship I could actually give a hesitant thumbs up to, at least in some of the configurations. The rest of the line is trash, though.
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>>52206830
gonna need a link to that book
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>>52207197
Don't lie you to yourself. You know the truth already, you just aren't willing to admit it. Tomb Kings are gone. And they won't be coming back. Besides, just think about it from GeeDubs perspective.

>Oh boy howdy, time to update [an older army]
>Wait, if we just make a new book for them, won't people just use the old miniatures?
>What if we instead completely redid [an older army] both in terms of models and fluff and turned them into something completely new that vaguely has connections to what it replaced?
>THINK OF THE KITS WE COULD SELL
>???
>PROFIT

The Dawi got turned from some regular but beautiful dwarves into the Dispossessed. Then, they got remade into both ur-gold craving, dinosaur-riding fire slayers and balloon-obsessed cogfop fatties. FEC are some ungodly return of both Bretonnians in terms of fluff and the Strigoi and parts of the VC line.
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>>52207233
It's way to much. The other SC boxes are usually:
>infantry
>cavalry or monster
>monster or character
At a guess, I'd say:
10 Arkanaut Company,
1 Endrinmaster
1 Arkanaut Frigate
but then again, experience shows that a SC box for them is unlikely before Christmas or so.
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>>52207348
>What if we instead completely redid [an older army] both in terms of models and fluff and turned them into something completely new that vaguely has connections to what it replaced?

That's what I'm implying. It's easy as hell for them because they can re-release older models by giving them the FEC treatment and make good profit with minimal profit
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http://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/36971/top-5-non-collectible-miniature-games-fall-2016
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>>52207384
Well, unfortunately for you the TK models went the way of the Bretonnians. You ain't seeing that shit again. Instead, you might get dynastic Chinese terracota soldiers that serve under a Confucian filial sorcerer that commands the spirits of ancestors into clay bodies. And give 'em a giant dinosaur for the fun.
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>>52207437
I want this to be a thing
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>>52205924
>such a nice post
Oh boy here we're go again.
I thought in previous thread we figured out community postion about old armies
At least post some actual proofs.
>They build and defend the cities.
>Here's where the Freeguild get shit done: they dig in, fix any important shit
Well nope all important places guarded by Stormcasts (including big cities).
>Freeguild, Ironweld Arsenal and local forces are charged with defending these locations
After Stormcasts eliminating all enemy forces
>So yeah, they do important stuff,
Yeah like PDF in 40k, but they still npc faction
>>52206650
>jesus fuck it really was a samefag all along
Nope at least 5-7 of deleted posts was mine
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>>52207437
I mean the basic infantry and chariots haven't aged well, but Tomb Guard, Necrosphinx and Necropolis Knights still look fantastic and could easily be worked back in with the FEC treatment
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>>52207476
I dunno, I'd say the Freeguild are at least 50/50 PDF and Guard. You just don't have the same level of autists jerking off about how effectively they die in hordes like the Guard has promoting it. So instead you're stuck with the argument that you're Guard Joe whose major duty is patrolling a wall, digging a levee, and dying someday.
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>>52207476
>I thought in previous thread we figured out community postion about old armies

No we just heard you repeating your opinion until people got tired of wasting time on you.
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>>52207500
Well, I'd almost agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that the entire TK line has been pulled from the store. Ghoulies never got that treatment. Bretonnians did. Guess who got the fluff, and guess who got the models when the Strigoi became the new Brets?
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>>52207476
welp, it's back
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>>52207506
>Freeguild are at least 50/50 PDF and Guard.
So they are useless statists.
>>52207510
>people got tired of wasting time on you.
None provide any proofs from books and at least 2 anons agreed with me (1 AoS player, 1 WHFBwhinner)
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>>52207521
>flesh eater courts are bretonnians
This joke has gone too far
or not far enough

I need drawfags
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>I dont like thing
>so ill go to place where they do like thing and yell about it
Ah yes very good
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>>52207600
But dey are teh rongs and is my duut as slavshit to help be right.
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>>52207571
>deranged cannibals that believe themselves to be noble heroes, gallant knights, loyal yeoman, and gentle kings while actually flesh-eating, street-shitting monsters stuck in a land of decaying grandeur and rot
Their fluff gives some big nods to them literally just being the left-over Bretonnians gone fucking insane. And even if they aren't, the rest of their fluff paints them basically as Bretonnian Hollows.
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>>52207612
Not every feudal society in the warhammer universe has to be related to the bretonnian one is all I'm saying
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>>52207437
You're not thinking in the right direction, real world references are gone forever. They're more likely to make something like living slime wrapped in mummy wrappings riding flying moles.
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>>52207612
>decaying grandeur and rot
I want to see more of this in their aesthetics. Old Strigoi models don't support this aspect of the new lore at all.
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>>52207708
or just decorated like arkhan, nagash and the morghast are, which would be sufficient I say
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>>52207735
>new models
Lel. You get the joy of being the first real Death battletome. Which means you won't be getting an update for a long time, given how much shit they've got to slog through right now. Especially when you've got shit like the Nighthaunts. Who have a Start Collecting box in the form of the Malignants which features a Mortis engine that isn't even theirs.

Best hope is just kitbashing your own because you've got a long time before GeeDubs turns its eyes back to the FEC.
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>>52207753
It'd be easy to write Tomb Kings back into fluff
>Souls of warriors bound to their lords and unable to die still linger within the winds
>at the command of X character, they form from the dust and sand in the wind, ready to obey
Or
>Death cult of humans in a corner of Shyish, dedicated to the study of Necromancy and constructs before being discovered by Nagash
>Nagash shows interest in these people due to their similarities to Khemri of old, and allows this empire of bones to serve him
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>>52207546
>it's back
You mean discussions about setting and aesthetics?
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>>52206337
>that all changed when
The fire nation attacked, but seriously ugh ward really is for AoS
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>>52207815
I think the pottery option is the best
>human monarchies in shysh
>live a chill life obeying/not pissing off the great necromancer
>oh shit, age of chaos!
>faced with annihilation or worse, the monarchs turn to nagash, not for help, but retribution
>they willingly give up their old lives and souls to become undead weapons and carve a bloody path as nagash personal armies
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>>52207568
You mean, you same-fagged your opinion twice while claiming two extra identities.
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>>52207937
They look even better there.
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Would a living construct/golem army be grand alliance death?
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>>52207963
Yeah, I like the mostly-closed upper deck, which wasn't as obvious from the other angle.
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>>52207927
>two extra identities.
Wut?
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>>52207975
Probably nope.
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I don't know if I'm being a retard or not; if you model a unit with something like a banner or sonorous tocsin, do you lose attacks for that unit?
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>>52207975
Tomb Kings have those, so I guess so.

Depends on the origins of their ability to move, maybe?
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>>52207975
it depends on the intention and nature of the faction

a natural golems army could be destruction
automatic daemon engines or tempting statues may be chaotic
the order's ironweld may create a clockwork army
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>>52207975
If they're souls bound to the golems to animate them, maybe.
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>>52208296
Is that Squats Gaby?
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>>52208279
>>52208296

Seriously, they all look better here.

Why can't GW take good product photos, Anon?
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>>52208296
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>>52208296
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>>52208312
They look rougher here, less perfect. More like an actual physical thing rather than an ideal. It's good, but it makes for bad product photo, because you don't want imperfections showing there.
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>>52208327
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>>52208279
>>52208296
>>52208327
>>52208338
>>52208358
April, was it? Because I can't wait to get mit mits on those.
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>>52208459
Yeh, April.
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>>52208459
>mit mits
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>>52208492
I should probably go to bed.
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>>52205924
>So yeah, they do important stuff,
Have any examples? Because from what you've described they are just su8pport packs who appears when all shit done.
Also Hammerhal underStormcasts protection
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>>52208010
No. The FAQ says the musicians and banners are additions to the normal unit loadout the model may have
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>>52208614
So does that mean I can say I have a standard bearer in my unit even if he doesn't hold a standard?
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>>52208651
No he still has to hold a standard to be considered a standard bearer. You still have to show it on the model. It just means if you have guys dual wielding swords or whatever, one model can have a sword on one hand and a standard in the other, and still be considered to be dual wielding swords because the rest of the unit is. They did this for simplicity
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>>52206337
There's not enough there to judge their story. It's a teaser. The aether-gold could be some form of magical gaseous gold, or could just be derived from gold, or it maybe they are just using the gold suffix to denote it's rarity and value. Like the term "gold" is being used as an adjective.

We'll see. I'm super excited to get my hands on the battletome and especially if they do a novel for them.
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>>52208765
I'm telling you it's the essence of Balthazar Gelt
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>>52208715
So if it doesnt impede thier attacks or anything and it doesnt cost points that makes banners and musicians auto includes? Or am I missing a rule
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>>52208829
That would be kind of a cool callback, bit I'm pretty sure nagash has his soul if anything, dabbling in death magic and all the way he did
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>>52208859
Yep there is absolutely no reason to not include banners and musicians.
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>>52208877
The Kharadron are confirmed to revere Chamon and their technology is based on alchemy, I'm not saying they're worshipping Gelt, but they're worshipping Gelt.
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>>52209056
>confirmed to revere Chamon
I didn't see that. Where does it say that?
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>>52209056
In a round about way I can see that
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>>52209056
Gelt was only ever a place holder for Grungni.
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>>52204915
Eoght-chan has a lower poster count, so in general outside the /pol/ relateds their is a higher quality of discussion but less replies, he's here for (you)s
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>>52208859
It's one of the many positive changes from fantasy to aos. With champions musicians and banners being free, every unit that can take them should take them, because let's be honest, a unit didn't seem complete without them. It's more narrative this way
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>>52209081
Runes on one of the ships say "Chamon's Hammer"
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>>52207233
Yeah way too much value. Look at the 40kEldar: no infantry in their SC box. Just six(?) Minis. Id say steam dorfs would get maybe a ship and two dorf teams
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>>52204852
These jet-pack guys look rubbish, why do they always fuck up and release some shitty flying unit that ruins the theme.

Stormcast have the same problem in my eyes, i like the footslogging paladin thing but the angel dudes look lame as fuck
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>>52207348
Crossing my fingers for tomb bros. I quite liked the mummy aesthetic, and i think all old tomb king players will agree that we miss our husbando Settra. If 40k can get the obscure genestealer cults, and AoS rumormill is buzzing about possible brets, sand skellingtons are a possibility. The line was full of awesome ideas and theres nothing to fill the ancient egyptian niche
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>>52209303
The angel dudes look ace, the problem is that the tips of their wings break off.
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>Biggest ship is called the "Arkanaut Ironclad"
>Has externally accessible door on the hull
>Basic unit is called "Arkanaut Company"

The ship will either be able to transport an Arkanaut Company, or there will be a special rule that lets them deploy from the Ironclad like Sylvaneth from Wyldoods. Just you wait.
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>>52207233
They are usually about 120 retail American
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>>52209524
Well, it might also be an access to the engine room. Not saying you're wrong, mind you, just pointing out possibilities.
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>>52209524
Please no.

The Steamtank and Doomwheel were machine enough, adding fliers and transport vehicles would be total cancer

>Airship cannot be struck in combat
>Next week some other flier has same rules but also shooting only hits on a 6
>Next month [unit] has Totallynotskyfire! and can hit fliers normally.
>Next year Fliers can now "Juke" for a 4+ save that ignores mortal wounds

GW doesn't know how not to run these things into the ground even if something starts as a good idea.
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>>52209524
I'm betting that's the way it will be. You buy a company, but keep them in reserves. Then deploy them from the ironclad, that is their move. I'm betting they don't have a restriction of being near enemy units outside of the 3" of course
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Noob question here can I mix unit weapons for example have a unit of state troopers with sword+shield in the front row and halberds in the back?
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>>52209319
Fuck you. As a Tomb King player, I don't want to see them dragged into this shit game. And Brets are neither probably nor probable. Stop letting your wish fulfillment fantasies merge with the real world. Accept the loss and move on. Play either 9th or KoW if you want Tomb Kings, and stop saying husbando like a degenerate faggot. TK players aren't a bunch of meme-spitting tweens.
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>>52209881
Why are you even in this thread if you hate AoS
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>>52210003
It's the only way to remind everyone that those kind of no-fun autists still exist.
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>>52210003
Because lowest common denominator. Play KoW at a brewery and one FLGS, play Smegmar at another. For whatever reason, the Infinity crowd laps it up while I still play KoW with the old Fantasy people. Just because it's a shit game doesn't mean I won't play it if I have friends that do.
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>>52210003
Not wanting your beloved faction to get assraped by Shitmar's weak idea of 'fluff' or overtaken by 16 year old girls fingering themselves to Settra isn't the same as hating the entire game.

I see where the guy is coming from as my favored factions have yet to be ruined.
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>>52210107
>overtaken by 16 year old girls fingering themselves to Settra
>16 year old girls will finger themselves to a mummified corpse because some guy called him a husbando in what was clearly a joking way.
K
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>>52210080
Okay so you are a grumpy old faggot who still can play KoW and 8th/9th edition because you have locals to play with. So again I ask, why are you in this thread if you hate AoS
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>>52210080
>Hey anon, do you want to play AoS with me?
>No thanks, it's not my cup of tea

Wow that was hard
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>>52210107
>overtaken by 16 year old girls fingering themselves to Settra
I'll take that over oldhammer sure.
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>>52209861
Depends on the unit description. If it says some to the effect of "Some units of dudesmen are equipped with gunblasters while others carry axeswords into battle" that means you decide for the entire unit.
If it instead says "Some dudesmen carry gunblasters, while others wield axeswords in battle" that means that you can mix within the unit.
Incidentally, state troops are the former.
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>>52210195
>So again I ask, why are you in this thread if you hate AoS

Probably to trigger your severe autism whilst you ponder why these threads are targeted by shitposts

Just a thought
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>>52210107
Yeah, you pretty much got it. Hell, between me and the two friends of mine that pulled me into Fantasy, we have Skyre, Brettonians, and TK. Hard to see why two of us really hate Smegmar, ain't it.

>>52210195
>>52210201
smd then kys

Because, again, I play this shitty game with the people I also play Infinity with. It's almost as if a shitty game with good people is moderately enjoyable. Not as much as a good game with good people, but if I enjoy the company that I'm with, I can put aside my grievances. Doesn't mean I'm going to suck off GeeDubs and their fanboys online.
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>>52210270
Alright, assuming we care for your sad story of how GW broke into your house and burned all your minis, why do you feel the need to post that here? I would assume somebody like you is so busy getting game after game after game that you'd hardly have time to post here.
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>>52210270
Legit question though, why do you browse the thread if you hate the game so much? Like you said, Tomb Kings are never coming back and you seem happy enough playing with friends, so why bother reading the thread and getting angry that you your precious army is getting talked about?
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>When Lileath refugees battletome.
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>>52210454
I assume because he feels the need to kick our asses. That seems to be the go-to answer for this sort of person.
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>>52206830
>>52210476
Wow, what a betacucks you are guys.
No, seriously, you jeep hopping and beggins while GW told you to fuck off 2 yeats ago, that's just pathetic.
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>>52210626
how about you get a good bag of fuck you and drawn in your vomit ?
you want tomb kings to be forgotten ?
you don't want them to crawl back from retcon hell and giving the middle finger to all ?
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>>52210626
I don't ask for the return of Bretonnia. I ask for new models of elves.
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>>52210476
I'd actually like that idea.
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>>52210677
>you want tomb kings to be forgotten ?
It's unavoidable, all old armies will forgotten or replaced soon, current one will never get real updates and TK will never come back.
Stop being pathetic bitch.
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>>52207319
>>52206830
Same Google fails me
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>>52210698
>I ask for new models of elves.
You already got 2 releases.
Also, there will never be anything related with "lileath refugees",
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>>52210733
But it doesn't make sense, they had an actually good modle range, all they had to do was transfer the modles over like they did the lizardmen, I can deal with losing them but I still need to know why they get the axe while the counts get to stay
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>>52205310
Well, I'm Silesian so english is my third language but at least I'm trying to use it correctly

>>52207046
If you see that someone is not using "a" and "an" you can be 97% sure s/he is from Poland or other slav country.
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>>52210733
>Stop being pathetic bitch.
Says the guy throwing an unceasing tantrum on a Gambian siegeworks forum.
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>>52210791
Because they were selling like shit.
And, to be perfectly frank, most of the range was old and ugly or finecast, no matter how excellent the sphinx box, the snake box and the tomb guard were.
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>>52210791
>they had an actually good modle range
If it didn't sells it's not good.
>>52210835
>guy throwing an unceasing tantrum
Lolwut?
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>>52210791
If shit doesn't sell, it gets the axe. Sucks, but that's business for you.
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>>52210885
>>52210865
I'm not expecting them TK to come back myself but I do hope for a legacy to carry like the sylvanneth to the wood elves or the the sky pirate dudes to the dorfs
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>>52210885
then axe the rules, not the models
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>>52210957
>for a legacy to carry like the sylvanneth to the wood elves or the the sky pirate dudes to the dorfs
What?
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>>52210961
But it's models didn't sells weĺl.
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>>52210961
>Model range X is not selling. How do we fix this?
>Okay, lets remove model range X's rules. But keep producing the model range that does not sell.
This makes sense how?
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Will someone update AoS page in 1d4chan with the Kharadron Overlords? I'm using my phone now and it's a bitch to do it from there.
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>>52204838
Certainly it should be m'laddy, shouldn't it?
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>>52211070
Well Eldars and tau sells like shit in 5th edition, now they one of the most popular armies.
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>>52211094
Tau recieved a fairly significant model overhaul at the same time.
And Eldar have always been popular.
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>>52211085
We know jack all about them yet. Why not write up a tactica, too?
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>>52211125
>And Eldar have always been popular
Nope, none wanted to play or buy them in 5th edition (especially after DE release).
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What do you guys think of this Bloodbound/StD list? Thinking of going to participate a local minitournament with it. After couple of test runs with KBB I found out that slow melee lists are.. just bad. So I thought this negates most the problems KBB has.

I know that this list is very charge heavy. Main tactic is trying to get Skulltake formation to middle of the board to contest objetives and Brass stampede going either flank with Knights+valkia the other.


Allegiance: Chaos

Leaders
Lord Of Khorne On Juggernaut (140)
- General
- Trait: Lord of War
- Artefact: Chaos Runeblade
Bloodstoker (80)
- Artefact: Crown of Conquest
Valkia The Bloody (120)
Skullgrinder (80)
- Artefact: Chaos Runeblade

Battleline
3 x Mighty Skullcrushers (160)
- Glaives
3 x Mighty Skullcrushers (160)
- Glaives
3 x Mighty Skullcrushers (160)
- Axes
5 x Chaos Knights (200)
- Chaos Glaives
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne
5 x Chaos Knights (200)
- Chaos Glaives
- Mark of Chaos: Khorne

Units
3 x Khorgoraths (240)
5 x Skullreapers (140)
- Daemonblades
- 1x Soultearer
5 x Skullreapers (140)
- Goreslick Blades
- 1x Spinecleaver

Battalions
Skulltake (100)
Brass Stampede (80)

Total: 2000/2000

Does this list eliminate the normal problems KBB has?
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>>52211010
he's hoping for a successor faction that has its roots in TK lore and some of its aesthetic and fluff values
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>>52211149
I think he meant the general page, fuck we know jack all from soulblight and they are in the main page.
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>>52211201
And how new dorfs related with it?
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>>52211260
Get the fuck out of here, not only is your English shit but you can't even understand English reading comprehension
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>>52211311
Lolwut? Where exactlt new dwarves shares fluff/models value with old. The only simmilar thing is harpoon thrower.
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>>52211070
If you're not mentally retarded you can clearly see that giving them new rules is the solution.

or do you think tomb kings don't sell because of the aesthetic?
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>>52211608
people buy the models they like regardless, it turns out people hate egyltshit
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Anyone have a good guide for freehanding?

I want to hand paint my greatsword's banner with a landsknecht taking a dump into the neck-hole of a stormcast's severed head
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>>52211692
My best advice is getting a fine too art pen. Draw the design, then paint in the lines. Then if you like the black outlining, go back over it with the pen again.
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>>52210327
>>52210454
Most recently because holy fuck, those cogfop dwarves look retarded as fuck. I didn't even bring up TK, some other poor bastard did. Shit, I don't even play TK in AoS because fuck. Use a secondary army I got through Mantic for playing KoW.

>>52210327
And I'm sorry that the idea of having regular game nights with friends and randos at different locations blows your fucking mind. Every other Thursday, Shadowrun. Every other Thursday, KoW at FLGS. Every Friday, random sci-fi from Infinity to Rogue Stars. Every Saturday, RPG night at a friend's. Every other Sunday, KoW at a brewery. Every other Sunday, AoS at FLGS.

>>52210677
>you don't want them to crawl back from retcon hell and giving the middle finger to all ?
Correct, I don't. Leave them in the past. It's more dignified.

>>52210865
>most of the range was old and ugly or finecast, no matter how excellent the sphinx box, the snake box and the tomb guard were
I'd still say some of the heroes were pretty dope, even if you had to deal with finecast. And Ushabti.

>>52211349
Hey now, technically they use the old Dwarven runes. Though they also misspell one of the translations, so... Eh. Gotta nitpick where it helps the argument, not where it hurts it, you know.
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>>52211692
>the landsknecht took a shit on his revived son's head
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>>52211749
Fine tip, I mean. You get them at any art supplies store
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>>52211692

>Unironically playing the Stormcast cadet corps
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Reckon the rules for these new duardin will be good?
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>>52211809
>Not playing the stormcast support auxilliary

>not holding the land taken by glorious supermen for Sigmar

>not patrolling walls to make sure your family is safe in their beds

>not rebuiding actual fucking culture instead of muh skulls and blood.
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>>52211874
Even if they aren't, I'm still collecting them
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>>52210677
I'll be with you, brother.
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>>52211809
>Implying it's not a fuckton better than playing generic frowny metalmen that exist solely to be AoS Spacemarines.
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>>52211628
>people buy the models they like regardless
wrong
people have a selection of things they may like and then ask which one is performing or being updated.

the people that only like one faction are a minority as are the ones that collect regardless of availability
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Sell me on your faction, /tg/.

And tell me about Your Dudes.
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>>52211809
>not making a freepeople gunline with a hurricanum at the back
>not blowing your enemies to bits as they patheticly ride towards you
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>>52211998
Ill be playing the new elves regardless of thier rules once they get released
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>>52212036
*unless they are ugly
Forgot to add that important fact
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>>52211809
Gotta purge stormcast mutants in the name of the glorious hero of MAN, sogmat
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>>52212002
>tell me about Your Dudes.
>As the thread autosages
>>
Is it true that shooting armies are the best in AoS
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>>52211809
I mean, my Freeguild are basically Chaos Renegades. So... Fuck the False God and his pathetic wights. Mortal blood, black powder, and daemon engines are all I need.
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>>52211911
>>52211984
>>52212077
>t.beta Cadians
>>
I'm jumping in later this year with Kharadron Overlords & Beastclaw Raiders. I'm leaving 40k for awhile after I finish my Ta'unar and DW kill team + Corvus. It's too space marine and IoM centric right now. I feel dirty for even buying DW marines. Sigmar is getting cool new fantasy races every other friggen day.

40k is almost an inferior version of 30k and I get the feeling the upheavel with 8th will see even less xenos models released let alone armies.

So I come to the forward facing game. Not the one stuck in a space marine quagmire. Yes I realize sigmarines are the poster boys here and get slightly more, but it's not so much more its obnoxious.

To the Overlords!
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I prefer square bases for order/death armies and round bases for chaos/destruction
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>>52212118
For me, I just prefer square bases when it comes to units that get stronger with the amount of models it has in it. Easier to organize them that way, in my opinion.
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>>52212115
Sigmarines are better than Space Marines, anyway.
>>
>>52212164
Tell me how unique each of the stormcast chapters are and how they each play
>>
>>52212115
Im switching to AoS for now too
Hopefuly they will unfuck 40k in 8th but until then I think ill play this
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>>52210476
Nope. Those guys didnt go to a refuge. They went back in time and became the original elves of the world-that-was.
>>
>>52212185
Space Marine chapters are cancer and choking out the majority of other army releases they could be doing. Pretty soon 40k will just new 30k mk 2 remix edition.
>>
>>52212199
For 40k I just ignore all the shit and focus on my army.
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>>52212115
>slightly more
>17 unit profiles
>15 leader profiles
>30 battalions
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>>52212185
>Tell me how unique each of the stormcast chapters are and how they each play
Most chapters are dead and shit
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>>52212185
Hammers of Sigmar:
- fluff: they don't think they can ever fail
- rules: they get 6+ invul save

Hallowed Knights
- fluff: only the faithful (religious zealots)
- rules: 5+ ignore spells

Celestial Vindicators
- fluff: vengeance is ours, kill some shit
- rules: gain extra attack

Anvils of Heldenhammer
- fluff: we come from a forgotten age
- rules: vorpal strike (insta kill if you're lucky)

Tempest Lords
- fluff: sigmar says each of us have to kill at least 12 enemies (sigmar joked, but they took it literally)
- rules: units get bonuses after killing 12 models
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>>52212185
To begin with, there's no chapters. There's stormhosts which, if anything, are more akin to old legions. These legions are divided in batallion strength chambers. Each chamber is unique in its ideology. Hammers of Sigmar (goldy-posterboys) are a levelheaded bunch, usually acting as mediators. Astral Templars are germanic barbarians, focused on writing sagas and runes to maintain the memory they may lose. Knights Excelsior are very task driven, obssessed with the purge of chaos, being an even bigger bunch of firebrand fanatics than the setting's inquisition.
Knights Excelsior draw their pools from royal families, from their ranks there's the daughter's draconia, an all female Extremis Chamber. They are very strict on the concept of noblesse oblige, to the point they consider they must AT LEAST kill 12 enemies before going down-for Sigmar said they were worth a dozen soldiers once and they just cannot fail their god.
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>>52212115
>Sigmar is getting cool new fantasy races every other friggen day.
>it's nostly soacemarines
Irony
>>52212318
So Ultramarines, Black Tempkars, Dark Angels, Fallen/Lost Founding and Space Wolves/Imperial Fists (?)
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New thread
>>52212376
>>52212376
>>52212376
>>52212376
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>>52210698
>I don't ask for the return of Bretonnia. I ask for new models of elves.
>I don't ask for the return of Bretonnia.
Fucking heresy of the highest order. OFF WITH HIS HEAD.
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>>52212351
>progressive gender equality
>better than original Space Marines
>>
>>52212378
Yes if you're talking about board similarities. No if you're talking about backstory.
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>>52212419
>No if you're talking about backstory.
Your fluff description fits AA chapters.
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>>52212002
They are angelic ancient ayy dinosaurmen riding bigger dinosaurs and wielding lazers shooting magitech led by kek from their space pyramids.

my dudes have gold clad specialist troops supposed to beat the shit out of the warp until they tear holes in spacetime to enact time travelling shenanigans while the common folks have electrico-magic conductive tatoos that act as effective chips or interfaces for the magitech
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>>52212441
That's not fluff description, that's a one-liner. It's like saying that fluff description of tau is: they shoot guns and have robots.
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>>52212261
Tau have like.... 31 units. If you don't count multi model kits that make variants then even less than that.

Excluding upgrades any bundles ect just the units themselves.

248 Every Single Xenos faction xenos models including multi-kits and overlaps in Eldar.

197 Regular Marines with multi part kits included.

47 Chaos Marines

47 Deamonic Models including vehicles ect.

129 IoM Including Multi-Kits

40k has a serious Space Marine problem.
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>>52212441
Hallowed Knights for example. They're a chamber made up of heroes that died invoking sigmar's name on their last breath, faithful till the end. Guess how many other "zealot" type armies are out there?

Dude, if you have a god, you have zealots. That means Black Templars or whathaveyou are all the same?
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>>52212571
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Sigmarines have roughly three times as many options as any other army. Hell, for the ones that don't have updated battletomes, you can even crank that shit up towards five times.
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The only releases we know of on 40k horizon are.

1. Nurgle deamon army thing with the primarch. More marines.
2. At least two more primrchs after that and accompanying release and the models that will no doubt come with them. Eventually probbly see the majority of them.
3. Nu-Marines to replace old marines as a whole new faction of sub factions. If hastings is to be believed.

What's on the rumor tracker for the Xenos? Uh... they aren't being squatted. That some news hastings had. And an dork buggy. Wow. Holy fucking shit. Stop the presses. He has said they will get a "few" more this year, but it sounds rather low key to me.

FUCK Space Marines. FUCK 40k.
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What I'm trying to say is the space marines alone have nearly as much releases as EVERY single xenos army in the game. If you include chaos marine models that gap shrinks to being almost equal.

The largest xenos army is the ELdar with around... 47 ish kits or so. Regular generic ultramarine have over twice as much of them. Factoring in every Space Marine model and they have 4x as much. Factor n chaos marines and they have 5x as much.

The Eldar have a huge army compared to any other Xenos army. Only Nids and orks come close for model variety.
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>>52212318
where are these rules?
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>>52204428
Looks like shitty 40k
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>>52213378
Newest stormcast battletome. Battalions.
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>>52212223
No, there is no time travel in that plotline. The Elf cycle is about creating a new world.
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