EDH/Commander General

>>52177519
First for new thread when.

Yeah, so we have this one guy, his two favorite decks are Slivers and Krenko. He's a one-track kind of guy.
Anyway, he was getting a big head because he'd won several games in a row, so I made a B/W deck and loaded it with mass removal, more along the lines of Toxic Deluge and Black Sun's Zenith than Day of Judgment or Wrath of God.
He is not very happy any time I get that deck out.

>>52177519
>Have you ever built a deck designed expressly to piss off one or more members of your group?

No. Every deck I've built is designed to be fun for me.
Doesn't stop my group being pissed off anyway.

>>52177519
>Thread question
A deck? No, but whenever I'm waiting for new cards to arrive I use unreliable, niche cards (Drought, Red Elemental Blast, Celestial Purge, etc.) as placeholders to hose certain archetypes in my meta

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I've started to really enjoy playing green and Gruul. Any fun stuff for this guy?

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>>52177519
Every deck I build pisses off pretty much everyone in the group and I build my decks intentionally.

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>>52177742
Activating his ability is the closest I can think to being a Yu-Gi-Oh super villain

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My lgs playgroup frowns upon and even soft banned land destruction because they are all spikes who hate lossing to strategies they cant interact with. So as you do i built the most stax/land destruction Deretti i could played it once and beat the everloving shit out of all there decks to say the least they were upset however it was worth.

>Have you ever built a deck designed expressly to piss off one or more members of your group?
Yes, pretty much made an anti-token deck to hate on one guys deck.

>>52177519
>Two people in my group have decks that are very fast and need to get rolling quickly
>Build a deck with 20 board wipes
>They wine because their decks can't adapt.

>>52177926
Nigga, uninteractive mechanics are fucking shit. I don't mind land destruction, but uninteractive shit is cancer.

>>52178083
>"My Craterhoof got countered once and now I hate ALL DISRUPTION"

>>52178124
Countering isn't uninteractive. Also, who the fucks plays the craterhoof if they know someone has a way to stop them from winning or killing someone?

>>52178169
sometimes you just have to go for it

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do i build memnarch yes/no ?

>>52178205
Yep. Don't forget some infinite mana combo.

>>52178205
Do you have Mycosynth Lattice??

>>52178205
Does your playgroup see artifacts and go for the kill?

>>52178205
Sure. Just don't use that atrocious print.

help i don't know if i want rafiq or damia for an unblockable deck

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>>52178331
gorgon lady looks cooler but rafiq gives you access to this chick

>>52178379
Anon, you can't argue with this.

I'm the anon asking about Wort from the last thread. The answer to this question may be obvious and if so feel free to call me the retard I am, but does conspiring a spell with X in its cost copy the value of X too? I'm fairly certain alternate costs that were paid aren't copied so that's where I am unsure.

>>52178205
>laughing Gruul mages

>>52178664
yes copied spells have the characteristics as defined by the spell they are copying (modes/X costs/targets [although when you make a copy, it usually allows you to redefine its targets])

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>>52178379
you are like a little baby, watch this

>>52178664
Yes sir.

Its a win condition in my Riku deck. Copying X-burn spells.

>>52178720
wouldn't the spirit be much harder to deal with though?

Killing a creature, vs removing a card from someones hand?

>>52178720
The forecast cost is harder to answer (discard versus enchantment removal) and more splash friendly (1C versus CC) and doesn't require you to make a 3-drop first.

I love Dauthi Embrace, and it lets you combo with Dauthi Cutthroat as well as shadow multiple creatures, but Spirit is better for doing some sort of unblockable voltron. Rafiq + Shadow = Fun, it's the new math

>>52178747
Embrace can be activated more than once per turn and during opponent's turns, your call which is more valuable.

>>52178747
shit I said creature when its clearly an enchantment.

>>52178795
I guess you should have some shenanigans by making opponents stuff swing freely

>>52178687
>>52178728
Rad, thanks.

And thanks to whoever suggested Wort, I'm already liking the build.

>>52178845
for maximum salt, use Plow Under

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i fucking hate destroy spells

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>>52178876
I fucking hate counterspells

>just found out a guy at my work plays commander in a t1 meta and has been playing since 94
Fuck, I'm a janklord from theros block. Is it even possible to compete? I have a lot of knowledge and I'm a competent deck builder, but what could I even play that wouldn't be a hilarious shitshow?

>>52178869
savage :^)

>>52178975
>commander
>tiers

it's more about who you play with and less about the cards

>>52177783
Holy shit I want to use this, is druids.dec viable?

>>52177972

>because their decks can't adapt.

I take it you don't play actual formats. Or do, and just play really bad decks.

>>52179001
Well exactly, but I don't want them to be hilariously bored to play with me.

>>52179084
it's difficult to give you advice if you don't tell us what decks they play

>>52178975

If he's been playing since 94 and build "competivive" EDH decks, he's a moron, and you should avoid talking Magic with him.

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>>52179040
there are 146 cards with the druids type

build it

>>52179040
Probably not super viable but I think most mana elves are technically druids so you could possibly tune Elfball into Druid Town.

If you try it lull them into a false sense of security with New Frontiers and Collective Voyage. "Oh, you though getting all that land was a Hug element? It's mine."

>>52179040
Make it viable.

>have kruphix deck
>want to make a deck that isn't in simic colors
>was going to make dragons but my lgs sucks and didnt have shit
>want to make a mardu deck but all i have is Zurgo, helmsmasher and I dont wanna do voltron

jesus idk what to do. I have narset, I might just rebuild that deck :|

>>52179202
Narset usually ends up being boring for you and the people you play with.

>>52179223
It was. Im trying to stay out of Sultai as well because we have a Leovold player in our group (he thinks its too OP, but the other 3 of us love playing against it because it's a challenge and it doesn't feel broken)

>>52179040
include White so you can use Mirror Entity

Today I got a foil Mana Drain, masterwork Sol Ring, expedition Mystic Gate and a signed foil Boseiju from Champions of Kawigawa for my Niv Mizzet / Oloro deck, what a great day.

Only 8 more foils remaining for Oloro now.

>>52179109
They're running ABUR duals and various other expensive nonsense. Buddy was talking about his thassa deck with FoW and all that jazz. The general impression I got is that they average 2k per deck because they've been playing so long they have everything. I was just looking for general advice about what I can do to fit in.

>>52179110
Maybe competitive is the wrong word, more high powered.

Is Suicide Black possible in EDH?

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>>52179769
very

>>52179202
Make Alesha fampai.

>>52179398
k

>>52178975
Ignore this salty faggot>>52179110
I don't see nothing wrong with talking to him about magic. Odds are high that he knows a lot so you can learn a thing or 2 from him. Regarding building a deck, yeah it's possible. Naturally, you'll have to spend money, but if you're smart, you can build a decent edh without emptying the wallet. For example, no-fun cards that are in MLD or stax. But if the guy is a turbo autist, sperges out, etc, that's when I'll stop playing with him

>>52179202
>Zurgo

Nigga, play that shit. Helmsmasher + 25 board wipes = awesome.

>>52179764
like, what CARDS do they play? I don't care about how big their cardboard peens are, what commanders and strategies do they run?

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>>52179769
Yeah

>>52179850
Nah he's a cool professional guy, tism isn't a problem. Let's shift gears, I run decks in the 100-200 price range. They're good mid powered decks that punch above their weight class, but naturally, disruption will end my day real quick.

What I worry about is showing up and getting the "kid gloves" where no one wants to play because I don't represent a threat. Is that a realistic problem? They're taking about some guy running grislebrand and another with rofellos because they don't represent a threat. I might jank out a combo or Uril exactly one guy once, but I want to know what I could build that would be fun for this kind of playgroup, in the 500 price range.

>>52179816
Reminds of good 'ol meme deck Sidisi Ad Naus. Just Sidisi, Ad Naus, Skirge Familiar, Exsanguinate a bunch of retardedly cheap accelerants, and like 85 swamps at minimum. Wins turn 5 at the latest.

>>52179880
No idea, we literally talked for ten minutes. Seems doomsday, mass bounce and 10 varieties of combo will show up. I was thinking Brago represents a pretty versatile and cheap control deck, particularly since he didn't seem phased when I said I ran artifact flickerstax and tutors. I know there's a Norin, a grislebrand, atraxa super friends, thassa, various elfball decks and a maelstrom wanderer but we didn't have time to get into strategies beyond "I run Lazav" and "cool man have you seen breya thopter sword yet and leovold?".

>>52177519

I know nothing really comes close but what would be the second best alternative to Mana Crypt? I just can't afford a $60 rock right now.

>>52180202
Mana vault and sol ring? Both of Those are pretty well know man.

>>52180085
There is a very good chance that they have many decks with multiple power levels, show up and see what's going on first with the decks you have.

It's a little silly to go through this without first hand knowledge.

>>52180202
Sol ring, Grim Monolith(30$ kek), mana vault.
That's about it. It's an exceedingly powerful card. None of those replace or even really compare.
If you want it just for the ramp, put a Signet there. If you are an explosive combo deck that can utilize every bit of extra mana then run Lotus Petal or dark ritual.

>>52180202
There really isn't a good alternative to crypt. Vault and monolith aren't repeatable, the only alternatives to crypt are worn powerstone (which just sucks compared to it), sol ring (which you are already running) and maybe the legal moxen (which are expensive as well).

I guess ancient tomb might qualify but that isn't the cheapest card either.

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Are aggro decks viable in EDH?

Can someone explain to me why lion's eye diamond is so expensive? Its use seems incredibly limited.

>>52180438
Yes, if you're in an environment that loves to durdle/play solitaire, you can prey on them with aggro

I manage to kill our table regularly, and easily, when playing either Rhys or Saskia. It all depends on the meta, of course, and at the highest level, aggro isn't viable because combos rule all. But like what most people here say, don't go by comp edh to see if something is good or not for your meta.

>>52180455
Core piece in a legacy combo deck, since you don't care about discarding your hand when you have Yawgmoth's Will (especially when you follow up by casting Lion's Eye Diamond from your graveyard again for another 3 mana)

>>52180455
Its a dredge/storm enabler

>>52180085
Like the other anon said, talk to them. Better to know then to worry what may happen.
>>52180455
Legacy and vintage.

>>52180455
Legacy dredge uses it and it's only gotten one printing to my understanding.
So it's in high demand with low supply.
And yeah, It does look incredibly situational, I thought it was shit until a competitive player explained it to me.

>>52180494
>Yawg Will in Legacy
?

>>52180537
>>52180524
>>52180494
>>52180495
Ah, ok. I wanted one for my Kozilrk deck but I'm not gonna shill out 60 bucks any time soon.

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>>52180588
>it's on the reserved list
Fuck my life, and here I was hoping that it might get a reprint in EM 2.0

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How do you deal with the annoying "If I had lived for one more turn I would've kill you so hard man you had to see my hand" type of guy?

>>52180644
just "k" them and move on

>>52180455

There was a buyout at some point which I think shot the price up by like 25%

>>52179769
Arguably the best archetype

>>52180438
Only if they also provide card advantage
So pretty much only edric
Though that tranny Alisha is pretty good and I could imagine that the new marchesa could play some sort of hit you in the face with tax creatures plan

>>52180644
>"Yeah, but you didn't"
or
>"Yeah that's why I killed you"
I hate those "I still had all these" players, both winners and losers.

>Oh man if you'd let me untap I would have played Ulamog infinitely
>Oh man I was about to go infinite with Deadeye
>Oh yeah even if you countered this, I would've still won
It's my pet peeve.

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>>52180659
STARCITY KIKES REEEEEEEEEE

>>52180538
Eh I'm retarded, I've seen LED Yawg Will so often.

It's Infernal Tutor and Past in Flames I guess.

>>52179876
I just built that deck, I'm very excited

Guys why the FUCK didn't you mention mono-black was viable in EDH. I'm reading about ad nauseam sidisi and it looks fucking crazy. I also found a erebos midrange deck which looks interesting too

>>52180857
>all the Mana Doublers
>Huge threats
>Card draw
>Combos out the ass
>Somehow we needed to TELL YOU that monoblack was good.
Don't be stupid.

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>>52180857
Horobi is the only black commander I'll play

>>52180537
Belcher runs it too

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>>52177742
>>52177783
>>52179040
>this guy doesn't know about Seton combo
>it has been a solid deck since EDH's inception

>>52181032
>hurr durr look at me I'm an ancient EDH player

>>52180202
Scorched Ruins comes to mind, if you don't mind sacrificing two lands for it

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>>52180857
AN Sidisi is a one trick pony with no game. Once people understand what you're doing you'll never win another game.

I'm not putting you down anon, but black cards are at their best when helped by the other colors.

Pic related, some of the best cards in magic.

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>mfw the table has ignored my B/W enchantments deck long enough for me to lay down Serra's Sanctum + Skybind, Cabal Coffer + Tomb Yawgmoth, Crypt Ghast, and Deserted Temple

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>Damnation is almost down to $20

Should I pick it up when it reaches $20, or wait for it to drop more?

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>>52181191
>tendrils
>Petition
>Muck
>Magus
>Infernal "Only gets run because the others are banned" tutor
>"Some of the best cards in magic"
I implore you to reconsider

>>52179769
Ad Nauseam, Doomsday, and Necropotence are probably the 3 best ways in the entire format to assemble combos. All trade a lot of life for either a lot of cards or some very specific cards.

I don't think anything should be banned in EDH, but these three cards are probably the closest to deserving a ban. They're just so fucking easy to win with.

>>52181333
Wait until MM17 starts getting opened more. It'll bottom out for a bit before it picks back up

>>52181333
Wait 2 months, then buy it at whatever price. Prices are lowest 2-6 months after release.
That said, it probably wont drop more than a few more dollars, so if you want it for a deck right now, 20 bucks is a good price and it WILL go back up again over time

>>52181032
>Seton combo
>Not Seton stax
I'm gonna build it now though.

What are good card stealing/copying spells and enchantments in blue/red im trying to give my mizzix deck a theme rather than dig for a combo to win. Prob gonna run thada and sphinx ambassador if I can get em.

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>>52182055

>>52177519
>Have you ever built a deck designed expressly to piss off one or more members of your group?
Multani (dude and his wife who always teamed up)
Selvala (stupid RUG goodstuff player)
General Tazri (everyone)
Kalitas (the six Meren decks)

>>52177519
I built Narset because my buddies didn't agree that extra turns weren't the reason our games took forever. So I made a creatureless Narset. One of them cast that one spell (Bribery?) that let them search my deck for a creature and put it into play under their control. They didn't find a creature. But they saw what I was packing, that I was going to attack and they couldn't stop me. He scooped.

Do you guys think it would be okay to unban Emrakul as a commander but not in the 99? I am aware of infinite mana + sac outlet = infinite turns but that hardly seems more degenerate than Prossh to me.

>>52180455
There was one single human being who bought a ton on spec and it triggered a market buyout. There's full articles floating about that talk about it, he was interviewed, and he tried to be nice but the content of his defense was "yall niggas mad ya didn't do it first" which is only partially true at best

>>52182055
commandeer, aethersnatch

>>52182226
It's banned because Sheldon doesn't like Emrakul.

>>52182085
Something that would be hillariously over the top is using this and then Warp World.

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>>52182085
>playing against my friend's Zada deck
>mfw using this on an Empty the Warrens
>Storm count 15

>>52180644
tell them "yeah then i would have just kicked you in the head!"
thats the kind of shit you would say on the playground
"Anon if we fought I would punch you so hard you would fall over!!!!"
"Nuh uh I would just kick you in the FACE before you could"

>>52182261
Didn't he do the same thing with Moat? If it's the same guy, he's a total skeezeball who thinks he'll be rolling in dough when he sells off all his children's playing cards

>>52180857
>Midrange anything
>Good

Go on...

>>52177519
>Have you ever built a deck designed expressly to piss off one or more members of your group?
we have one asshole in our group that's been playing for so long he can run some really fucked up shit in our kitchen table escapades.
His current "favorite" to use to piss us off is a Land destruction deck that targets basic lands by bouncing Sundering Titans, and other stuff, while he runs a complete set of Non-Basic lands.

Only deck I've made with the explicit purpose of making people hate me was a Splinter deck meant to exile all the lands in a person's deck, while swinging for free with some fliers.

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>>52177680
Anon you have no idea

>>52183391
>>52177519
Meant to reply to op

>>52177519
My personal deck is a pure, old fashioned Tax and Control deck, that's currently running Kambal as the Commander.

Opponents have to pay life to do anything, there shit comes in tapped and doesn't untap, can't target my shit, my stuff constantly comes back.

It feels good, when I bust out that deck and take control of calculating everyone else's life totals for them. The Tax Man collects his due.

>>52177519
Am going to build Lazav Shapeshifter Tribal. Wanna run Mirror Gallery. How do I get out mirror gallery effectively?

I will be running Demonic Tutor and Dark Petition. Do I shove in more budget tutors just so I can fetch a mediocre card for funsies?

>>52183429
You got a list fampai?

>>52180644
Dude probably just got excited about his plan and since it didn't come to fruition, he wanted to share it to vent the excitement. Maybe quit being so shitty with your friends.

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Playing at a new store tomorrow. Hoping to combo out a few games. Wish me luuck

>>52180644
Let them flash their hand, nod sagely, and move on.

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How do I build this guy?

I'm thinking goblin tribal for the moment, but am interested to see a R/B artifacts list?

>>52182273
>>52182632
Thanks I think ill try putting that in if I can 6 mana win the game basically unless they really want to go all the way

>>52183742
Why do you post this picture every thread? Nobody cares that you're going to pubstomp some casuals with your netdeck. Pls stop.

>>52184032
>netdeck
Fuck off.

>>52184032
You want me to post a different pic?

>>52184060
>>52184144
I want you to post something to promote actual discussion rather than your wet dream of pubstomping. And please stop samefagging.

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>>52179909
>>52180696
>>52181359
>"I play... DOOMSDAY!"
>"counterspell"
>"oh.. well I scoop then"

>>52184060
Prossh Food Chain is one of the least inspired EDH decks there is.

>>52184344
Is that right? What's the most inspired deck you can think of?

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>>52184361

>>52184424
hehe nice... But seriously

>>52180644
stop being autistic and have a conversation with your friends you fag boy.

>>52177519

I'm trying to do a budget Jarad. Can I sac Nighthowler to Jarad? I need a budget alternative to Lord of Extinction.

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>>52184424
kek

>>52184424
Does anyone happen to have a list for this guy? I have a caged sun sitting around and I've never done mono color before, seems fun and budget. I have some vehicles laying around from kaladesh draft

>tfw you make your opponents discard their hands and prevent them from drawing cards with a U/B lockdown
Is there anything better than alt wincons that dont say you win the game?

>>52184597
actually playing the game?


kidding

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>>52184186
Only ten cards a set are playable, almost every card interaction is intuitive and the moment any new card comes out every synergistic card is found and listed within minutes. Complaining about netdecking is like complaining about thinking.

Also I'm not the one posting the deck, just tired of cunts who have this superiority complex about having only started playing in RTR.

>>52184344
Unless your deck is inspired by obscure Turkish poetry I don't really care and neither does anyone else.

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>>52184645
speak for yourself nigger, theme decks are cool

>>52184691
This.

If your deck doesn't have an identity, why are you even playing EDH?

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>>52184645
>Unless your deck is inspired by obscure T*rkish poetry I don't really care and neither does anyone else.
why are you even here?

>>52184691
>>52184711
>>52184731
When the effective card pool is so small and deckbuilding constraints so tight your inspiration has an incredibly limited effect on the identity of a deck.

And like I said nobody cares about what inspired you to make a deck.

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>>52184831
>eternal format
>the effective card pool is so small

>>52184831
>Small card pool

Are you trying to tell me vintage is the only format you can be an individual in?

I think EDH has a larger pool than any format other than that.

>>52184938
>>52185000
You'll understand when you've built more decks how small the cardpool actually is.

>>52185012
You will understand when you have more fun building decks how big the card pool is.

I also like how you just assume you have built more decks, and we haven't built enough. How many decks have you built anon, how long have you been playing?

>>52185000
edh has by far the largest viable card pool of any popular constructed format.

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>>52185012

>>52185012
t. EDHREC

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Thoughts on this card?

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>>52177783
no, no, no. You need to stax them hard, then play it that betrays, then cataclysm.

Sell me on your mono colour commander

>>52185996
bark

>>52185996
No, I wanna feel unique and special for playing them

>>52185933
the problem with "staxing them hard" is that you usually don't manage to arrive at 12 mana.

I guess discarding it and reanimating it would be a viable plan.

>>52185996
Slobad is love, slobad is life.

Watching your opponents as they in frustration try to destroy your Clock of Omens or Paradox Engine as you sacrifice an Ichor Wellspring, a Solemn or just a casual token instead is just priceless.

And when they finally manage to find the artifact exile they were looking for, you sacrifice it first and put it back into play with a Goblin Welder.

>>52184516
You can but it's going to be probably half as good. There's really not an alternative to lord of extinction for Jarad

>>52185661
It can sow some serious salt. If you are more likely to win it than your opponents though it doesn't seem bad.

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Tell me about your playgroup /tg/. How long have you guys been playing together? You don't play at your LGS with strangers do you?

>>52186323
>You don't play at your LGS with strangers do you?
They stop being strangers after a while

>>52180644
>getting mad at some one for being excited about their cool plan
>not stepping outside and smoking a cig with them while doing a play by play and commenting on eachother's cool plays and missteps

Get a cooler group man

can someone please explain the whole point of politics in EDH? like I get that people want to get phat combos off, but even in that case the end goal is to be the last one standing.

why is it considered poor taste to just try and play magic? I don't understand the "social" aspect of EDH.

>>52186996
Let's say you are in green and one of your opponents is in black. You have a small number of options to get rid of another opponents hushwing gryf that is stopping you from playing your craterhoof and winning (not that anyone else knows that) you make a deal with the black player, he kills the gryf, you take out the rest in peace on the board.

Maybe then he combos off with Gary and wins, or maybe you get your hoof off and win. It's a calculated risk you have to take (and you can tip the scales in your favor with more hidden information, maybe you have graveyard hate in hand in case he does something off that)

It falls apart completely though if people aren't honest about what they do, so keep that in mind.

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What is the secret tech that absolutely destroys your meta?

>>52186996
Because trying to kill everyone at the board will only make everyone unite to kill you, as you become the largest threat to their survival.

>>52186996

Because it's easier to win by persuading people with all sorts of tricks.

>>52187205
kyslonic rift

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>>52187205

Not exactly secret, at least not anymore, but I'm the only one in my playgroup that plays a deck with less than 3 colors, this card always causes monstrous assharm.

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finally got around to building my Yasova deck.

Steal yo' stuff and chuck it at your face with reckless abandon. Also, dragons.

RECOMMEND ME FAT TOKEN VALUE STUFF TO PUT INSIDE TROSTANI FUCK

And rate my Bant Enchantress Voltron with a Cleansing Meditation/Enchanted Evening combo while you're at it :
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/jenaras-bant-enchantress/

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>>52187731

Post a list you dirty hussy.

>>52187751
Trostani's Summoner
Desolation Twin
Armada Wurm
Advent of the Wurm
Garruk, Primal Hunter
Rampaging Baloths
Phyrexian Rebirth
Grove of the Guardian
Slime Molding

>>52187817
Sauce on that image?

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>>52185996
I just like big Timmy stuff.

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>>52187850

I have no idea sorry. Saved it forever ago.

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>>52185996
My waifu > Your waifu

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>>52187896

You're waifu a shit

How does this look? What am I missing?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/lazav-shapeshifter-tribal-1/

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>>52187896
Here's better cenobite for you, along with Teferi's favorite toy.

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>>52185996
90$ buys you the entire deck

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>>52185996
Blocking forbidden by dictate of Odric

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>>52185661
FUN

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>>52185996
I'm assuming you like having answers to everything

>>52187850
Natalie lust and yes she's super hot

>>52185996
Azusa stax on stax
Crucible locking the table is fun, green gets access to absurd amounts of mana making colorless inefficient removal and card draw trivial. Also Storm Cauldron is way better when you get to play 5 lands a turn.

>>52188114

she has some weird growth inside her vagina that manifests when she's fucking

0/10

>>52188131
This is true, but I can look past it.

>>52179040
Dunno how viable it is in a competitive setting, but mono-green certainly has the potential to simply take over multiplayer games, especially if the other players at the table are unprepared or preoccupied with a percieved greater threat, such as Nekusar or Leovold.

>>52187998

What is the absolute best deck that can be built with Krenko for under 100 bucks?

This is extremely important pls post list

>>52180644
>"But you didn't."

>>52188196
Try running haste enablers and ways to untap creatures I suppose.
Thousand Year Elixir (does both!)
Hematite Talisman
Jandor's Saddlebags
Magewright's Stone (cheap activated ability)
Puppet Strings
Paradox Engine

Mana Echoes is pretty legit as a way to pay for all those activations and other crazy stuff.

Unwinding clock lets you do it again on each turn

Then use Purpheros, impact tremors, and goblin bombardment as win conditions.

>>52188297
Umbral Mantle too, goes infinite with mana echoes.

>>52188315
also phyrexian altar, ashnod's altar and Skirk Prospector for more free mana, Illusionist's bracers for more activations, aggrivated assault can easilly go infinite

>>52181357
Dark Petition is part of one of the strongest Vintage storm decks of all time.

>>52187896
>pillow isn't T shaped to include her head horns
It's shit

>>52181357
>because the others are banned
Not in edh :^)

>>52185661
I run it in mono black smokestack
The CMC of the deck is very low so it just ends up skipping me most of the time
Which is great when you have to discard cards during your upkeep and sac 3 permanents

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>>52187205
It was my favorite card from before I quit
Turns out instead of pissing people off, it just caught on.

best non green token commander

gogogogo

>>52184334
>He doesn't know how to play around counters
Like little babby

>>52188736
Breya :^)

>>52188736
Queen Marchesa.

>>52188780
ooo its in mardu which i am a B I G fan of

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>>52188736
Teysa maybe?

>>52183358
http://magiccards.info/query?q=sundering+titan&v=card&s=cname
???

>>52188736
Endrek Sahr is pretty cool.

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>>52185996
Monobrown count?

>The best ramp. Monobrown can push to the stratsophere with the best ramp cards without having to pause for color access
>The best fat to ramp into for Timmy. The colorless Eldrazi are the strongest fatties in the game -- particularly those with the Annihilator ability, which are backbreaking to slam down early.
>The weirdest shit for Johnny. Monobrown practically forces you to think outside the box to find solutions, but the thing is that the solutions are, surprisingly, almost all there. And some of the best weird shit ever printed is in the Colorless Artifacts.
>Turn off everyone else's game. Monobrown has the best denial tools, from the obvious like Null Rod, Trinisphere, and Smokestack to the positivley bizarre like Naked Singularity. Almost everything in the game can be utterly disabled by a colorless deck: Enters the Battlefield, Activated abilities, Being in the Lead, Attacking, Blocking, Untap, Upkeep, Draw, Your opponents winning, You Losing, Your Life Total Changing, Your stuff being destroyed, Cycling, Targeting, Colored Permanents, sane mana production, and of course Even. Basically, you name it a monobrown deck can disable, forbid, or wipe it.
>Everything else can be countered by Kozilek.

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>>52181357
>Infernal Tutor
>Not good
>Implying

>Tutor One with Nothing with Demonic
>Tutor Infernal with Vampiric
>cast One with Nothing on opponent's end step
>Draw Infernal
You better watch out what you call bad now that I showed you.

>>52188896
You can't play Naked Singularity in monobrown because of Sheldon Menery.

>>52188896
You're one of those retards who went about asking if Converge will be better now that colourless is a colour?

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<balance can't be played in commander>

>>52178169
>>Countering isn't uninteractive because I say it is.
>>If blue had land removal I wouldn't say shit

This is what Spikes actually believe.

>>52188910
Right, fuck, that counts as a 5c identity

>>52188926
No, why would I be? That would be fucking retarded. Thematically Monobrown commanders work/feel like a monocolor, so it makes sense to potentially discuss them in the same debate, but by game rules it's completely different

>>52178720
Senor Zurgo sayz por que no low dos?

>>52188974
Well yeah and I feel like monobrown is closer to monocolour now that they have their own basics. It used to be horrendous in the past. I used to run Karn and the manabase was abysmal, not to mention you used to lose immediately to Ruination or Back to Basics, but thankfully Blood Moon usually didn't do anything bad for you besides gimping strip mines.

Still, when the colourless thing was new with the anus mana, it was constant thing asking if it affects Converge and if anyone can run new eldrazi in their decks because colourless had a new symbol.

Not to mention that colourless mana and generic mana has been always a thing almost nobody distinguishes. It bothers me when people are talking about mana costs and they say that "Serra Avatar costs three white and four colourless mana", even though there's a huge difference. Even with the new mana symbol that separates them in mana costs they keep doing it. Kozilek costs two colourless and eight generic, not ten colourless mana.

>>52188472

Vintage is a bizarre, degenerate format where cards like Paradoxical Outcome can justify themselves as 4-ofs in the right deck, yet I don't think anyone would claims that Paradoxial Outcome is one of the most powerful magic cards

>>52189223
It certainly is when you don't ban the cards it synergies with.

What are some great cards that are strong in mono-green like hall of gemstone?
I wanna build Seton.

>>52184645
I just wanted to butt in that Turkic poetry is really cool and that everyone should read some dastans like Alpamys and Dede Qorqut

failing that you should look into the Shahnameh

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>>52188791
>>52188791
Teysa is the best and even though she's a cripple I still love her

But she's more of a combo/value commander than a token one. The fact that she generates lots of tokens is incidental - good Teysa decks seldom use token swarms as a primary wincon.

Check out my list - it's pretty fun to play, competent and not degenerate at all if you remove the Darkest Hour:

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/little-teysa-3-1

>>52188964
Countering is LITERALLY interaction you fucking mongoloid

>>52189706

>No cane

0/10

But yeah, my Teysa deck is hated at my shop. There is about a dozen infinite combos that range from infinite damage, mana, hand discard and deck exile.Tokens are only there to protect Teysa until she goes off.

>>52187817

can't remember off the top of my head, but I'm running a bunch of blades, to steal mo' stuff with yasova (silver-inlaid dagger, o-naginata, loxodon warhammer, demonmail hauberk, sobam, bonesplitter), extra stealin' effects (act of aggression/treason, kari zev's expertise, zealous conscripts, mob rule, insurrection, mirror match).

Then there's stuff to cash in your stolen dudes, so you don't have to give them back:
birthing pod, food chain, goblin bombardment, greater good, artillerize, collateral damage, fling, reckless abandon, perilous research.

That's all sitting on top of the standard stone package (signets, etc.) and shit to make the deck run - anger, fires, temur whatever that gives haste. Also got a bunch of dragons to smash face with (quicksilver, rorix, bogardan hellkite, and a few others), and standard blue/green stuff like FoF, harmonize, beast, etc.

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>>52189786
>my Teysa deck is hated at my shop
So is mine, which is very unfair if you look at the list. They seem to believe that all of Magic should be Creatures:the Tappening while being completely oblivious to their decks (among which are Jeleva, Maelstrom Wanderer and Athraxa) being even more disgusting. I have since stopped running Darkest Hour and instead just outvalue/drain everyone for the win.

Also Kokusho the Evening Star + Vizkopa Guildmage + usual Nim Deathmantle shenanigans = pic related

>>52189586
How are the translations to English? I'm more of an early modernism/canonical english kind of guy, but I'm always looking for new things to read.

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MFW dropping a humility against a bunch of creature toolbox decks.

>>52189961
Humility
What an awful card
Nature's claim that shit on sight

>>52189991
I like to play as few creatures as I can get away with so I lean heavily on my humility to keep me alive. Also helps deal with random indestructible fatties.

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>>52177773

Damn Parnell has put on some weight since he started doing SCG videos, is this the eventual fate of all EDH players?

>playing feldon
>"Why would you play mono colour? Clearly any other two colour would be better."
>throw down some early ramp
>wheel and loot
>bane of bala ged hits the yard while warstorm surge, where ancients tread and vengeful stalker is out
>cast seize the day and flashback it
>that glorious feeling when the dickass blue player eats 41 damage, exiles 6 permanents and scoops in a huff
What are some other fun things I can do in monored? I think I'm hooked.

>>52190105
I'm personally a fan of mono-red control strategies like legacy dragon stompy (literally the least accurate name ever) or modern skred, maybe there's something cool you can do in edh too?

>>52190137
Well, I'm having fun with some of the Aether Revolt cards. Lathu Hellion and Scrapper Champion have won games. The problem is, I know a metric ton about every colour, but next to nothing about red and white. I don't even know what I could theory craft, your post was a little over my head to be honest.

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>playing some EDH on Monday w/ the usual playgroup
>have a couple new additions to Breya, including Vedalken Shackles
>tutor it up midgame before the Bruna player gets her down
>steal Bruna in response to the attack trigger and after the auras are declared
>suddenly have an 18/18 Annihilator 2 Life Doubling Bruna on my side
>Win in short order as I protect her and remove threats + get over the top with Breya's -4/-4 and 3 to the face abilities

Shackles is INSANE brehs

>>52190137
monored is a blast in any format.

also
>dragon stompy (literally the least accurate name ever)
the original lists used Rakdos Pit Dragon thus the name.

Recommend me a new commander to build.

Complication - it has to be as far removed from playstyles I am already running.

So far I run
>Jenara, Asura of War (Bant Enchantress);
>Teysa the Scion combo/value
>Nin U/R control/goodstuff
>Building Breya MUD

>>52190190
I know the history just makes no sense these days

>>52190177
Basically a fast bloodmoon or trinisphere is gg for a lot of 60 card decks

>>52190192
Phelddagrif Group Hug.

>>52190218
meh, it's tradition. but most lists run Thunderbreak Regent currently, so the name still works.

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>>52190177
I really wish they would print a legendary creature that was like a r/w angel with lifelink and the Aether Flash ability, I think that would make a neato thing for r/w to do that isn't hurr maek creatures turn sideways.

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>>52177519
built myself a Gaddock Teeg deck for the purpose of pissing everyone off.... suddenly all those mana rocks and such get hosed by my boi with the hate.

built the deck around him to monopolize on his abilities and to protect his ass from cheap removal.

I wait for others to get their decks out first.... if I see the eldrazi player hauling out that degenerate deck, I know it is go time for Teeg.

>>52190192

>Weaker Starting Place
Marrow-Gnawer Rat Tribal Token Stax

>Better Start
Leovold doing Leovold things, like wheeling everybody's hand away and resolving doomsday to win off lab man.

>>52190192

thada adel

As much clone, steal and redirect effects you can think of with a little dash of counters to save your ass. You have no win cons, you have to develop your on on the fly based on what is at the table.

>>52190330
>Marrow-Gnawer Rat Tribal Token Stax
Keep talking

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>>52190105
It's like group hug except you're hugs are made of lava and will kill them.
Play hostility and suddenly any burn spell is 6x that much damage but to everyone.
Hellion Eruption, Descent of the Dragons, bunch of token makers and blow people the fuck up.

>>52190364
This sounds awesome. Any specific spicy tech for her?or is it safe to edhrec?

>>52190460
>edhrec
Smh, my man. You can do better than that.

>>52190369
Basically the idea is to climb a stairway made of rats to be the last one with any permanents left. Marrow-Gnawer's ability will outpace throwing a counter on Smokestack every turn (or alternativley, outpace running Descent into Madness. Why not both?) as long as you've got a few rats to start. Black has fast mana and tutoring to set yourself up. Other than your stax package, you need a very low curve and a solid tribal component to get the rat engine running, but if you do the board will be rendered devoid of all non-rat life and you can just keep kicking the smokestack up as a victory lap while you kill folks with the 1/1 tokens. Downside is that an ill-timed wrath can ruin you in hilarious fashion and you don't have good options to defend against that, so you're going to have to try to establish while keeping folks off the mana needed to clean up your swarm. Essentially, you have to get to 5 and start forcing sacrifices before they hit 4. Whether it can work or not is therefore pretty meta dependent, but when it does work it's hilarious.

>>52190501
So far I just jumbled together mono u must haves that I already have, thinking on it - hope to have a list in a few days!

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mono-u-heist-of-the-century/

tips and comments are very welcome - this strategy seems insanely fun. And to think I wanted to build talrand in mono u.

>>52190460

I'd give you my list but it's terribly out of date by several years to what I run now. Some really good shit for her though, Cloak and Dagger she is a rogue and Knowledge Exploitation.. she is a rogue. I also run with some flood effects to maximize her island walk, quicksilver fountain is good but causes mass salt.

>>52190675

Well if your stuck at that here I'll give you my super old list. I build it out of an old shitty gimmicky Kira the glass spinner deck into the beauty of a theft deck it is today, this is probably mid change point. Still some good stuff in there when starting from nothing.

>>52190846

Whoops, forgot list
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tada-thada/

>>52180644
I sometimes do it if I had some cool combo/etc. and wanted to share it with others and if someone else does it to me and if they aren't a sore loser/bad winner i usually hear them out since they're obiously excited about their deck and want to share the cool stuff it's capable of.
Where do all you people come from? A lot of people here seem to have terribly cancerous playgroups and issues in their meta in general while I never had any experiences like that

>>52189525
Please ;_;

>>52180644
>Have a hand of cool shit
>all costs 3+ mana
>stuck at two mana the whole game
Fuck you I can be salty.

>>52190192

I'm building a Captain Sisay right now.

Tutor for skyship weatherlight, then use weatherlight to tutor for another combo (finks + jinxed idol, while you tutor for melira with sisay, or whatever else you feel like). Untap effects courtesy of paradox engine (also can be tutored for), anthemn effects (spear of heliod and hall of triumph tutored for, also mirari's wake, call for unity).

Additional toolbox of tutor targets like rune tail, mageta, linvala, mangara, etc.

Plan B is tokens (with glare of subdual).

>>52190447
See, I'm running dictate of the twin gods, gratuitous violence and beserkers onslaught. 8x damage is magical christmasland but it could happen. What burn spells aren't terrible in EDH? I mean comet storm and blasphemous act are the obvious ones, but is anything else worth it?
>>52190268
Oh sweet spicy Moses I would LOVE if that happened.

>>52190105
>What are some other fun things I can do in monored?
There is so much.
>Draw your entire deck off a single cantrip with Zada
>blitz out giant Dragons for 1RR with Zirilan
>FREE SAC ENGINE for janky combos with Slobad
>play Big Stick Diplomacy with Hidetsugu and nuke the table if someone looks at you funny
>go turbo-aggro with Godo

>>52191091
>godo
He seems neat, but I can't run all the white support, like sram and puresteel. Is it worth it? What would be a better alternative for someone with a tight budget and a Jitte?

>>52191001
Draw Power:
>Primordial Sage
>Regal Force
>Collective Unconscious/Shamanic Revelation
>Recycle

Lock
>Hall of Gemstone
>Ritual of Subdual
>City of Solitude

Seton Tech
>Paradox Engine
>Awakening
>Patron of the Orochi
>Vedalken Orrery/Yeva

Have fun.

>>52191001

well the standard package of harmonize, beast within, eternal witness,

Squirrel nest + earthcraft,
zuran orb + fastbond + crucible of worlds.
ezuri, renegade leader + a bunch of elves
mycosynth lattice + darksteel forge + nevinyrral's disk (works in any deck, since it's an artifact combo).

>>52191188
Fastbond is banned in like every format anon.

>be fairly new to mtg
>have learned a very methodical way of building decks, goldfish my decks for fun and constantly look for ways to make my theme decks roll better, constantly sperg over my curve, ramp and draw
>friends seemingly just throw together their decks and use whatever expensive staples they've amassed over the years, ie. sensei's divining top, swords and ancient tomb bolted onto a rakdos vampire tribal
>friends complain that i'm a tryhard

fuck you

well i mean i complain about them being tryhards too but words hurt you know

Anything overtly wrong with this?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/oona-edh-considerations/
Aside from playing Oona that is.

>>52191240

whoops.

>>52188955
Kari Zev's Expertise + Resyore Balance

:^)

>>52190179
You had at least 5 islands? On 4 colour deck? I assume you had shocks and duals?

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With the release of Modern Masters 2017 there's been plenty of complaints that there's shit they're reprinting solely for Commander (Craterhoof, Zur, Damnation, etc), but would you be interested in a Commander Masters sealed product?

>Draft environment consists of drafting 4 packs to create 60-card decks (Singleton might not be a possibility in draft) played at 30
>Foil slot is occupied by a Legendary Creature in each pack, so you'll always get a Commander to build around in drafts
>Reprints of the new cards in Commander/C2013/C2014
>Reprints of more-expensive staples like Mycosynth Lattice, Crucible of Worlds, Top, Tutors, Food Chain
>Reprints of Commanders that wouldn't make sense to show up in a Modern Masters set like Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund, Rhys the Redeemed, OG Avacyn, Black Mikaeus, Azusa, Praetors, Maybe some Invasion dragons

>>52191188
>>52191172
Thank you friends, safe travels to you and your lineage.

>>52191559
It would be nice but wouldn't happen. Set would exist only for value and limited would be garbage. You can't make a nice set of common and uncommon fodder for commander decks and colour identity rules would make monocolored commanders virtually impossible to draft.

Also of note; Rhys is a fine card for modern masters. EMN had elves as a draft theme and 2017 has populate + tokens. Praetors are also fine (Elesh showed up in 2015) and Mikaeus would be reasonable if sac, persist, or undying were archetypes.

OG Avacyn is a bit of a stretch but if a masters set used reanimation as a theme I think it would be a good include. Griselbrand already saw inclusion after all.

>>52191559

>Craterhoof
>"Solely for Commander"

Elves may not be tier 1 but it is still a modern deck that can win some games.

As far as your actual question, I think it would be a bit of a dud unless it was really carefully designed to provide a great draft environment, cracking packs for single is and always has been a chump's game and I don't wanna give Wizards any excuse to downgrade (Further) the quality and quantity of reprints in the actual pre-constructed Commander decks.

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How do you sadistic sacrement effects, /tg/? How do you fight against Breya?

>>52191718

>How do you fight against Breya?

Fill your deck to bursting with hate cards.

>>52191718
Kataki, War's Wage, Null Rod, Stony Silence, Cursed Totem, Pithing Needle, Voidstone Gargoyle, Nevermore, Dampining Matrix, Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Torpor Orb, Aura of Silence, Angel of Jubilation, Supression Field, Ward of Bones, Darksteel Mutation, Faith's Fetters, Arrest

>>52191741
>>52191890
>these shitters think Breya is an artifact deck
I look forward to curbstomping you guys the moment you think you've pulled a fast one on my Breya control/reanimator deck.

>>52192095

>He plays the strictly worse version of a deck and gets smug when people, with no information but the commander, make the assumption that what's being played is the optimal strategy for it.

>>52185996
Oloro is the best mono black general in the game. Do you like to pay life for cards? Do you want to cut off a hand for advantage only to have it grow back? Hell yeah you do.

>>52192178
>he thinks artifacts.dec is the optimal way to build breya
>laughingbusinessmen.png
>doesn't know tier 1 Breya strategy is Animate dead/Worldgorger dragon or doomsday combo
>attempts to school people on a Hungarian stageplay rehearsal bulletin board about things he doesn't even know
Better luck next time kiddo.

>>52185996
Freyalise is repeatable mana dorks, answers and card advantage all rolled into one card. And who doesn't like 5 tons of elf.

>>52191718
Sadsack is marginal MBC tech against combo players. Extract is cheaper (but blue) and Bitter Ordeal is more viable in multicolor decks. But stripping away Doomsday, Mike & Trike, or Food Chain is pretty glorious

>>52191718
lost legacy
it's not as good in edh but in other formats it's absolutely devilish

gonti is pretty much THE commander for those type of effects

also praetor's grasp

>tfw Nephilim will never be legendary
It hurts ;__;

I just want to play Witch-Maw Exalted

>>52191718
You don't, just embrace her.

>playing planechase commander, me piloting breya vs. Abzan Hermit Druid, mono blue control and meren
>plane is Eloren Wilds (basically mirari's wake for all permanents)
>pull starting hand of Evolving Wilds, Sulfurous Springs, Mox Opal, Mana Vault, Thopter Foundry, Demonic Tutor, Fabricate
>Smugface.jpg
>t1 play evolving wilds
>???
>combo out on turn 3 with everyone insta scooping
Breya is stupid powerful as it is adding planechase is just overkill at this point

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Man, I forgot how fucking gorgeous the Saga plains were. I honestly feel like ordering some now.

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>>52192547
>his 'tier 1 play' involves a worldgorger dragon loop

>>52193101
The plains in particular stand out, but the Saga lands are some of the best. I also rather like Tempest and white border or no have a real soft spot for the zoomed-out spectacle of 5e (particularly Forests that are actually a forest, not a tree in a forest.)

>>52177519
I built Narset creatureless control to counter a players zurgo deck, he then quit. Feelsbadman

>>52179769
T1 necropotence is always a joy on the board state. Especially when others can't counter it or answer it

>>52192547

>le competitive combo decks that you'd be better off just running a 5 color commander for since you're never gonna cast it anyway

epic

Some thread questions for when new bread happens

How do you personally feel about infinite combos?

What about hard locks?

Are they okay as a way to end the game if it's clear one person basically has complete control of the game but is taking six years to end the game?

If somebody doesn't specifically say the game is competitive, is it assumed that it's casual?

>>52193101
Dont forget to get the arena foils, some of the prettiest basics out there.

>>52193624
>How do you personally feel about infinite combos?
Love them

>What about hard locks?
They're not fun for anyone but decent ways to end the game

>Are they okay as a way to end the game if it's clear one person basically has complete control of the game but is taking six years to end the game?
Yes

>If somebody doesn't specifically say the game is competitive, is it assumed that it's casual?
Yes, casual does not mean low power though.

>>52193624

is mindslaver lock an infinite combo?

only gets player A without a gross amount of mana and repeatable card draw. Player B, C and so on still take all of their turns and can work their hardest on fucking you up and if you're spending your mana on mindslavering player A, it's not like you control player A during player B's turn.

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>>52189961
>guy drops a t2 humility for teh lulz
>have Dryad Arbor with Pendelhaven
>other guy drops Kessig Wolfrun
>mfw this Arbor goes the distance

>>52185012
>only build goodstuff
>surprised when there's a limited amount of goodstuff

Have you tried SYNERGY?

>>52193624
>Infinites
While I personally hate them and refuse to play decks whose gameplan revolves around performing an infinite combo, I don't necessarily begrudge any of the people who play with them. I mean EDH is basically the combo format, not like they could have fun in standard or modern, or find anyone to play legacy with.

>>52193624
I have no problem with infinite combos.

They are viable ways to end games, as long as the decks are of similar power level I do not see a reason to hate infinite combo's.

I play Kruphix. Why do the people at the table never take me as a threat until it's too late?

>>52193928
>standard
I don't like it's concept of limited cardpool like rotation
>modern
Legacy for trygards on a budget. I have never heard anything good about it and it's the reason the edh player base at my lgs is next to nonexistent.
>legacy
I'd love to get into it, love Miracles and find Belcher pretty interesting but don't know too much about it except that I don't have the disposable income to get into it.

>>52180438
Edric is really fun and I built it then took it apart cause it was to strong. Saskia Voltron is pretty spicy I must say.

>>52193624
my group usually hardcaps infinite combos to 10 triggers per turn

>>52194055
Chances are

A) bad threat perception,
B) bigger threat (stronger combo deck on table)
C) You're playing with dribbling retards

D) A and C

>mfw three days later I'm still watching Commander Clash videos
Shit thanks to the anon who posted one some days ago, it's so much fun and those guys have that chemistry McDarby and West had.

I also kinda want to play EDH on MODO now but I fear it's gonna scalpel my wallet is it too expensive?

>>52194258
I do play board wipes and regrowth/eternal witness. So, maybe I just think that they aren't trying hard because I keep wiping the board?

>>52194104
I was more talking about how combo is shit tier in modern and standard, so I don't get upset that combo players want to combo the fuck pit of everything in a format that lets them

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>>52183391
Y U H

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>>52187205
Every fucking time. Goddamn do I hate this card.

>>52187205
My group really hates it when one guy plays

warp world/great aurora as boardwipes with no game plan.

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>>52187205
Not exactly secret tech, but it absolutely gets the job done.

>>52192773
Who says you can't? Just play Atraxa with tutors and lots of draw to get your Exalted creatures and Witch-Maw. Recursion for when it dies, counters to protect.

>>52194775
i did not know this card existed, thank you i will make my meta cancer now

>>52195118
>counters to protect
He's in black and green no need for counters, just a sac outlet

Does anyone play Rakdos?

I have no idea how this shit works, I feel like a reanimator deck could be fun, but I worry about how the two colours would interact. What's the general approach? I want to run things like Urabrask and Flayer of the Hatebound, Warstorm Surge and Sire of insanity, but I feel like my love of fatties will consume me.

>>52194775
How in the fuck do you stop this card?

>>52195247
Reclamation Sage? Acidic Slime?

>>52195247
Creatures anon. With creatures. Also 5 1/1 birds are a lot of tokens either way, it's not as good as you think unless you have an established board.

>>52195247
Casting creatures, you big blue nerd

>>52195224
All out attack attack attack. I run a Lord of riots with furnace of rath effects, mass hysteria, avatar of slaughter, and other fun jank. Just be as reckless and risky as possible and hope it doesn't blow up in your face.

>>52195247
By not playing monoblack or monored.

>>52194104
>modern is budget legacy

Oh, sweet child.

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>>52195247
Make ur removal spell uncounterable

>>52195321
How does that work out for you? I think it would be fun, but I find monoblack difficult to win with, let alone incorporating the reckless Rakdos effects. I really want to build mogis, as he's my best Rakdos general, but I know he's nowhere near as good as he looks, even with damage doublers.

>>52195321
Exactly how I play my Fumiko deck.

People think if they can just take this one hit from my double striking 7 power commander they'll totally have me. Suddenly flashed in Dictate of the Twin Gods.

Now everything is doing double damage and thanks to enchantments the last two players have to fight each other and ignore me.

Fumiko is so much fun.

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>>52194775
>tfw back when this was in standard and I was somewhat new, I concocted a deck based around it and a bunch of X spells to turn my shit into birds
>it was shit but it was winning more than I'd expected
>suddenly a player tells me I'm cheating and that X doesn't count for CMC on countered spells and I wasn't getting all the birds I thought
>store owner sides with this guy
>i take apart deck and never use it again
>tfw they were wrong and I was right the whole time

>>52195543
>its a 'judge makes a wrong ruling but since they are the judge what they say goes' episode

>>52195969
Is there any recourse for the player after the event? Has such a thing ever happened in a high profile competition?

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>>52194775
I fucking love World Breaker

>>52196046
Dont know, its happened to me in legacy once. Usually big tournaments have level 3s who know their shit so usually the only ambiguous calls are about rewinds.