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JumpChain CYOA Thread #1385: Scream Of Incoherent Rage Edition

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>Google Drive
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>Jumpchain IRC Chat
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>Rules
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>Last Thread
>>52137011
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Moron.
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>>52145841
You alright BLADE?
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>>52145860
He's been failing all day, how do you think he feels
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>>52145841
Is the timeline stabilizing?
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>>52145698
Sounds like a really really good excuse to keep jumping to me. You'd never run out of things to do either since you'd always live with purpose.

Satisfaction is for quitters.
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>>52145698
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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>>52145692
Added race descriptions, changes item/delivery bag description, added sploosh drawback.

>>52145860
Please refer to the thread title for my opinion on the last five minutes or so.
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>>52145866
Seems that way. It just took rerouting energy from the phazors through the deflector dish with some tachyon particles.

Unfortunately we now seem to be occupying an alternate reality where a sentient wig is president.
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>>52145866
you kidding? at this rate the route will be locked off entirely
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>>52145875
>No peace or happiness.
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>>52145892
Self inflicted self induced idiocy you mean?
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>>52145902
HAPPINESS IS FOR QUITTERS.
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>>52145898
>ITT: butthurt SJWs who love the electoral college except when it works against them

Also, you're a fucking leaf. The implication in your post is that /your/ president is a sapient wig. You need to stop.
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>>52145935
>Explaining why this place is so miserable half the time
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>>52145902
Just because you say something doesn't make it true. It's entirely possible to attain peace and happiness on that path.
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>>52145941
The leafs don't use presidents. They don't understand the concept.
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>>52145941
You can be fine with an electoral college and still dislike the results because democracy is a flawed piece of shit.

Unfortunate that the system is one of the least flawed pieces of shit we have.
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>>52145898
Yoro please that wig is going to make anime real.
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Ok, so these should combos for bleach based off of the story itself, as long as the author of the jump doesn't mind them.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong with any of this since my knowledge of bleach is a little rusty and I relied on the wiki to fill in some gaps.

Drop-In+Shinigami 600CP: Natural Substitute Shinigami (No loss of powers over time like someone turned into one)
Shinigami+Hollow 600CP: Natural Visored (Doesn't require you to suffer from an experiment to become one)
Hollow+Shinigami 600CP: Natural Arrancar (What it says on the tin)
Drop-In+Shinigami+Hollow 600CP: Normal Ichigo
(See below)
Drop-In+Shinigami+Hollow+Quincy 600CP: Full Ichigo
(See Below)
Fullbringers are also humans with hollow reiryoku in them so if you were to take drop-in with the hollow 600cp you'd technically be able to develop the power according to lore?
/shrug


The difference between normal and full Ichigo would be the merged hollow form from the final arc (and maybe a few other things. It's complicated) since the merged form would require having quincy energy as seen here >>52145371
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>>52145892
Is there any chance to be able to take a non hylian race and still be a functional drop in?
I'm not asking for the background discounts, but I don't really want a history.
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>>52145935
>>52145875
Like AA?
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>>52145967
Wrong.
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>>52145989
No, more the opposite. Like a bar.
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>>52145941
1. It was an attempt at humor, not a jab at anyone.
2. America is large enough and influential enough in the world that ignoring it's politics is simply not an option.
3. Have you /seen/ Justin Trudeau? I could just as easily have been describing him. His hair is glorious. He has nearly as many appearance perks as Red.

>>52145970
Nah, America challenging Japan to a Giant Robot Battle is going to make anime real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVJTGLL2SnI
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>>52145989
AA implies that people are trying to recover. Nobody here bothers trying. They're just diving deeper into the escapism. I wouldn't be surprised if somebody's already failed a couple of courses because of jumpchain given how many people seems to be in school
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how does janpaseiga in inuyasha compare to the swords I assumed its based off of?
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>>52146006
>>52146021
You misunderstand.
"AA is for quitters" is what I meant.
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>>52145698
Well... yeah.

To quote a technically correct guy twice:
"Power without purpose is worthless"
"Purpose without power is meaningless".

Gotta have both.

Also, everyone always forgets about The Power of Love and The Power of Friendship for some reason.
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>>52146016
Trudeau is far more successful than anybody here ever will be, and that's a true fact.
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>>52145985
Sure.
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>>52146021
Marche was right.
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>>52146029
AA is for people trying to console one another with sob stories and life experiences. The real quitters act, they don't just go to conferences and chat about quitting.
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>>52146029
Yeah, and so is alcoholism. It's all a matter of perspective.
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>>52145892
So Minish Cap had the option to be Minish Link, and now Wind Waker has the option to be Rito Link.

I certainly hope the trend continues.
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>>52146021
It'd be fucking hilarious if somebody dropped out of college because of jumpchain and came here to complain.
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>>52146060
For the other option in shinigami powers, are the prices 300/400? Because there seems to be a surcharge just to choose merged and dual.
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>>52146041
Thank ye kindly.
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Hey, >>52146060 what are your thoughts on >>52145984 ?
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>>52146067
Too bad there's no Minish waifu for Minish Link.
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>>52145941
Canadians all secretly desire to become Americans.
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>>52146043
>Marche
FFTA?
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>>52146158
Who else has a thing against unhealthy escapism with that name?
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>>52146060
>World Tournament
Wait, so we fight Chad and Renji, but not Ichigo? Weird.

Also, I disagree with what people said earlier about Drop-in not needing a 800 perk, because it made up for the fact they don't get a power table by default. I agree that Transcendance didn't fit with them, though.
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>>52146112
I like it, but what about Quincy+Hollow?
>>52146088
They were, I lowered it to 200pp for importing and 300cp for extra sword
The sword is 300cp because it is a new Zanpakuto entirely and gives you 500pp
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>>52145984
Reminder to EVERYONE that Hollows are the WEAKEST race in Bleach.
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>>52146067
You make a fine point.
I'd love to see more "Be Link" options.

Though that would lead to some...interesting complications for OoT and Twilight Princess.
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>>52146039
Being born into the upper class will do that.
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>>52146172
I wanted the powers to gradually increase. I guess I can add in Ichigo though.

>>52146176
I like them. They looks cool.
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>>52146158
Marche is known for basically denouncing jumpchain in its entirety and telling us why this hobby is truly a trivial pursuit.
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>>52146025
weakly
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>>52146157
>MFW
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>>52146025
It's less good, but Inuyasha is a series that is secretly about building the best sword ever.
You could pobably go about improving it in jump rather easily.
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>>52146190
I like them, they're just pitifully weak compared to Shinigami and Quincies.
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>>52146190
Don't sacrifice potential for appearance.
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>>52146060
How does Transcendence actually work? Wouldn't the fact that powers need to be of 'similar origin' bar you from combining Hollow powers with anything else? Also, does Number 1 work with learning skills or growth of raw power or both?

Also, Quincy's other powers are a bit worse off for the price than Shinigami's other powers, since buying them doesn't give you a bonus as opposed to learning them on your own (except for Pure Blood obviously).
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>>52146060
So, taking Resurrecion as a Shinigami makes you a Visored, right? Or something else?
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>>52146204
God Bless America, the origins of humanity.
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>>52146216
I don't think it's actually possible to improve weapons in Inuyasha. Inuyasha was mostly just learning how to use his right while Sessy was spending his time being asshurt he got the shitty worthless sword.
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>>52146060
Reminder that you have to die and end your chain to become an arrancar.
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>>52146173
Actually, I seem to have misread it. Other allows you to import a weapon, and then the two options do more stuff.
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>>52146173
Quincy+Hollow: You get will die within a few years. Best have a kid with a Shinigami in a human body so he can become a hero.
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>>52146060
Jumper the Human should probably give more than 300 cp, since it removes your out of jump abilities AND caps you at peak human.
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>>52146286
800 CP.
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>>52146246
Damn after reading the wiki I seem to have totally misremembered how things went.
I forgot that Tessaiga has power copying and that it wasn't just asspull after asspull. My bad. It has been a very long time.
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>>52146240
I'd think you'd be more like Aizen or his cronies, considering the perk says he used the Hogyoku on you.
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>>52146282
Or have one of the myriad 'play nice' powers from the rest of the chain. Safety First may not apply but I'm pretty sure that Tandem Style with Capstone Boost would do you well.
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>>52146043
But if he couldn't save anyone, does him being right really matter?
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>>52146060
Is there a general companion import option? Or just buy the various 'friends'?
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>>52146282
What if you have an energy merging perk and use it to merge your Quincy spiritual energy with some energy that's poisonous to people who haven't acclimated to it gradually (also have a one up perk)? Would that really screw Yhwach up?
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>>52146328
But he saved everyone he wanted to.
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>>52146230
You fool, all should gaze upon the appearance of Jumper and weep.
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>>52146234
Same series or similar kind of power up. An example would be SDK with another series that uses auras, or mystic eyes.

Both

Fixed that problem
>>52146230
B-but it's cool
>>52146286
I can do that
>>52146335
Various friends.
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>>52146201
>Sure you can walk for the first time in your life
>And you don't have an alcoholic father
>But escapism is bad guys!
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>>52146335
It's under the Shinigami items for some reason.
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>>52146313
>>52146246
Tessaiga DOES get improved at one point, with a Demon-fang. But it only happens once.

And Tetseiga isn't worthless.
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>>52145892
Needs more Cthulhu saves the World update.
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>>52146371
So, that would be 500 cp for nine (eight?) friends, spread across three origins. Do they get the 800 cp, or just 500 because I didn't double them up?
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>>52146409
Healing is for girls.
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>>52146230
>mfw I've been doing it wrong this whole time
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>>52146201
>Listening to anything Marche says
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>>52146396
Actually, the 200 cp items all do the same thing, though the imported companions are of a different origin. Specifically, the one you bought.

>>52146414
Kay.
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>>52146420
>implying

Surgeons.
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>>52146230
The key is to get the perk that links appearance to power so that every time you get appearance perks you're actually powergaming.
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>>52146371
>>52146286
Granted 'Peak Human' in Bleach is pretty fucking high. See http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Ururu_Tsumugiya and pic related.
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>>52146060
Quick question. Does the boost from What Doesn't Kill Me vanish if you regen the damage or does it last as long as you keep Bankai active?
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>>52146230
But that's no fun at all. You have to look awesome while fighting to truly be the shonen hero.
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>>52146420
Healers GET all the girls*

Saving someone's life does amazing things for your ability to get into relationships

Just look at Sessomaru and Kaguya or Rin
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>>52146444
Why do you think we're here instead of being productive in the real world if we actually listened to Marche? Even the resident shitposters agree that /jc/ is a better place than the rest of the world. They'd probably kill their relatives without a second thought if it meant making /jc/ real.
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>>52146021
it was only one class
not even kidding.
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>>52146457
Find me a surgeon that cuts you with healing and thus is worthless in battle despite being a demon lord and thus needing that skill more than healing.
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>>52146465
>Ururu
>Human
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>>52146417
It's discounted for the same origin.
Still 800 gained since its all of them.
>>52146469
Lasts for the entire Bankai
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>>52146393
>And now your mom is not dead
>and this world has been shown to be completely real
>but fuck you Im destroying it anyway.

There is a reason marche shows up on chaos side in dissidia.
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>>52146491
Revive kills zombie bro.
Powerliches don't stand a chance.
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>>52146480
Just get mindrape perks and have everything love you unconditionally and unerringly. Free will is unnecessary if it doesn't benefit you.
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>>52146491
Depending on the kind of healing, too much of it could induce cancer.
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>>52146060
If I'm reading this right:

Drop-In costs 0cp and gets 0pp. They can get 500pp by buying another origin's capstone for 600cp.

Everyone else costs 100/200cp and gets 1000pp. They can get another 500pp by buying their own capstone for 300cp (or someone else's for 600cp).

I'm not familiar with Bleach. Is having a history in this world so horrible, that this is (apparently?) balanced?
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>>52146497
Very few zombies around.

>>52146500
His doesn't.
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>>52145984
>Shinigami+Hollow 600CP: Natural Visored (Doesn't require you to suffer from an experiment to become one)
Doesn't really make sense, though? That grants you what seems to be an actual Zapakuto complete with a Zapakuto spirit, Shikai, and Bankai. Also I believe natural Arrancar are supposed to actually be weaker than Aizen's artificial ones, just Starrk was a goddamn freak of nature.
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>>52146491
You act like the sword is the only way Sessomaru can fight. Which it most definitely is not.

>>52146496
>Also I got the adventure I wanted out of this
>but fuck you I'm taking what you wanted out of this.
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>>52146496
wait, he's actually in Dissidia?
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>>52146499
SHLiHN is that you?
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>>52146515
Sessy isn't a higher tier demon just with his boring claws.
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>>52146489
It's ok, I got set back a year because I was too busy procrastinating with jumps. Probably going to fail this year too.
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>>52146510
Eeeh shit.
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>>52146494
Neat, thanks. Yang 2.0 here we go.
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>>52146504
No, Mib's just not planned the mechanics of this jump out at all.
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>>52146060
I couldn't really find much information, but how much energy does the Kido Corps captain have compared to Zaraki? Also, compared to other Sternritter where does the Quincy capstone+Reishi Manipulation put you?
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>>52146494
Ah, sorry. I'm not buying friends twice, im buying it once, but also squadron and fraccion.

Also, drop in 600 might be NLF.
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>>52146517
Dissidia is intended to include every single character from every FF eventually.
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>>52146520
>just with his boring claws.
>Forgetting his True Form
>Forgetting The Fluff

He is the exact same type of Demon as their father. Just not as big, yet.
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>>52146499
Well I mean if your an unflinching psychopath who only cares about appearance and not personality then I suppose this method could work.

I think most people would prefer the whole Healer Seduction Harem, way more fun that way.
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>>52146060
So, uh, just how good is the boost from Slaughter Senses? Will we be taking on Yhwach right out the gate? Because it sounds pretty good, being enough to "equal even the strongest monsters".
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>>52146532
Most jumpmakers here have no clue what designs mechanics actually are and how they work. It's just easy enough to follow the template and use that to get by. It's definitely not mib's fault.
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>>52146327
>>52146343
I was going off of the story. In the story quincy+hollow=dead quincy
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>>52146571
Pretty sure it is, when he's based most of the capstones around a vague number of categories and left them unbalanced like this.
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>>52146542
>Also, drop in 600 might be NLF.
No, it's fucking not. It's just your SB friends are too retarded to realize that not everything is meant to be read literally in the most dishonest fashion possible.
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>>52146492
I'm serious go ahead and check out the wiki if you don't believe me but Ururu is Just Human.

>>52146560
Slaughter Mode http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Slaughter_Mode I think is an ability used by Pic Related.
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>>52146571
>It's just easy enough to follow the template

Well it doesn't help that the last few people who tried to break out of the template get REEEEEEE'd at.
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>>52146555
If you're "most people" you wouldn't want a harem at all, neither would you be seducing people, and you'd only be considered a healing after a really fucking long time in med school. You're basically just taking the long way around things because you feel it's somehow more justified despite still being a glorified PUA.
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>>52146544
That's kind of crazy given that there are over 100 Final Fantasy characters. And that's just the ones that are kind of important.
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Hey, Val, if you're around:

In Fate/Zero, If we chose the same type of Magecraft as Alice Kuonji as our Magical Legacy, could we get our own version/shameless rip of one of her Great Three ploys through the Magical Mona Lisa item?

I'm inclined to guess no considering what it took to bring Flat Snark down but I don't really know anything about Volumen Hydrangyrum to compare.
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>>52146549
Does anyone have any idea of what jumps let you buy super swords?

Im talking like tenseiga or excalibur or whatnot.
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>>52146593
While they are stupid and taking it way too far, there is a point to the fact that the perk is vague as fuck. If you know the series, it's obviously just Ururu's thing (In which case not really worth 600 at her level?) but if not the description gives no indication of what level of power it gives.
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>>52146599
Most people will never venture outside of template. Most jumps even now focus most of their attention onto perks and few else. There's only maybe three or four jumpmakers known for experimenting with different designs.

So yeah it's pretty understandable why people REEE to any sort of change.
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>>52146604
>Upon the game's initial release, its cast of playable characters will only be 14[11], however, it is the developers' goal to eventually include over 50 with a series of updates to come post release.[7] The developers have even said that once the 50 characters are finished, they would like to include even more as to them "50 feels like a small number". They also wish for all characters playable in the previous Dissidia titles to return
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>>52146504
Drop-In is free, so nothing extra
You can also buy pp for any class in the undiscounted section.
>>52146538
Lets say that the Kido captain can hold a gravity prison spell for about 10 minutes, Zaraki doesn't use it so I can't say, but a normal captain would be around 2 minutes.
>>52146560
Not if you're human, If you've been packing lots of supernatural bonuses then maybe.


Changed the jump based on suggestions
Read the changelog at the bottom
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>>52146590
At least before Drop-In had an 800 cp perk. And given that the Drop-In capstone seems to put you on par with captain level opponents anyways, it was sorta balanced.
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>>52146512
(I assume you meant to quote the arrancar, not visored part since that was what you were talking about)
Visoreds are Shinigami that are turned a little hollow while Arrancars are the opposite. If there was a perk that just had the spiritual energy of the particular origin I would've used that but there isn't.
It's not a perfect system, I am just trying to give people as many options as they should be able to get.
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>>52146639
Jumpseiga from Inuyasha is basically this. Fate servants could do this. There may be more.
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>>52146657
Jesus christ, you're just making shit up with absolutely no basis in canon.
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>>52146656
My dreams of playable Barret might just come true huh.
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>>52146657
May I suggest that world tournament let you fight ichigo multiple times? just cause him not giving up and coming back is kinda his thing.

Thanks for the general import option.
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>>52146642
I wouldn't say 'understandable'. There have been several occasions where the thread has gotten so autistic about deviations from typical jump formats that it becomes incapable of criticizing a jump on any other aspect until it's been changed/
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>>52146680
I mean yeah, that's kind off what a lot of Jump maker tend to do with OC abilities, its not like we have the creator on speed dial to tell us what would or would not work in canon.
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>>52146711
I can do that
Bankai, arrancar, and then full power
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>>52146657
Why does Resurreccion cost so much?
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>>52146657
Do you want to include a note at the end about combinations or how certain perks would interact with each other?
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>>52146625
Mm, probably not. Those three are a bit beyond, quite a bit even, the intention of the item.

Volumen was Kayneth, blondie in Zero,'s special blob of mercury and it featured a fair amount in the Fate/Zero series. The item is meant to be more of a perfected version of that blob. Giving it full sapience and enhancing the amount, speed and abilities of it by a fair margin.
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>>52146720
You could literally say that about every single thing jumpchain related. There's literally an autist waiting to blow their load on any given subject. We've had plenty of jump format deviations slip by as we've had people screaming about jump format deviations, so really it's not like this is some sort of major exception. Some of those deviations even found adaptations in the end.

As long as you accept that there are autists willing to die on a hill for some stupid cause, it's pretty understandable. And jumpchain is autistic enough to make up causes when they can't think of one.
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>>52146657
>Drop-In is free, so nothing extra

Yes, Drop-In is free, I did mention that. What I'm asking is, why do the other origins get 1000pp for 100/200cp plus can get another 500pp for 300cp, while Drop-Ins can't get the former at all and pay double for the latter? What's so horrible about ALL of the non-Drop-In origins that they begin getting pp at 10:1 or 5:1 and can optionally get more at 5:3?

>You can also buy pp for any class in the undiscounted section.

So can the other origins, as that's not restricted to Drop-Ins and is multiple times more costly per pp than the above, with a 1:2 ratio.
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>>52146735
?

It costs the same amount as all the other capstones. It's not something required to be a Hollow just as Bankai is not required to be a Shinigami.
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>>52146657
>Overkill
Holy shit those gains!
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>>52146657
>Drop-In is free, so nothing extra
When Drop In are free and and the other backgrounds cost It meant drop ins 100 CP perk was only discounted instead of free. If they bought the stuff that was free to the others, it ended up costing the same.

That made the backgrounds basically balanced and cost the same in the end.

If that 100 CP the other backgrounds gets them 1,000 PP, then then are objectively better then the Drop In option unless the Drop in has the ability to buy 1,000 PP for 100 CP.
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>>52146753
I'm pretty sure Resureccion is natural like all other hollow abilities, only a second one is unique.
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>>52146657
>This effect can stack, but has a half life of 30 seconds
What's the deal here? Didn't the canon user spend so long during his fights that people wouldn't even know what he did until it was explained to them?
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>>52146657
Since Shinigami get a free bonus for joining a Squad, do Quincies get anything to compensate?

Also, Drop-In being free doesn't quite make up the fact that they don't get racial freebies or access to tables. Maybe give cp for taking it?
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>>52146657
>Drop-In is free, so nothing extra
Most jumpmaker make all backgrounds free choice nowadays, to avoid arguments like that one.
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>>52146176
There's a balance. Quincy -> Shinigami -> Hollow -> Quincy.
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>>52146732
-Zanpakuto : +1000 (1000)
-Second Division : Free
-Katana : Free
-Bigger : Free
-Longer : Free
-Cloth Hilt: Free
-Sentries? : -100 (900)
-Shikai : +200 (1100)
-Elementalism (Water)
-Elementalism (Ice)
-Elementalism (Sound)
-Elementalism (Light) : -200 (900)
-Projectile : -200 (700)
-Bankai : +500 (1200)
-Arena : Free
-Energy Cloak : -300 (900)
-Elemental Armor : -300 (600)
-Elemental Enhancement : -300 (300)
-Sword Spirit : -300 (000)

...You might want to consider lowering the amount of free pp you give. Or maybe say 'two free' instead of three.
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>>52146735
It's the same?
>>52146742
Not all the combinations are in canon, so I really couldnt say how they'd work.

>>52146777
Someone mentioned that it would become too big too fast.


I can swap Transcendence and Slaughter, will that appease anyone?
or should I do like >>52146786
and give them 200?

>>52146786
Their Sternritter powers

>>52146800
I think I chose that number since most of the main characters have more than 2 unique characters.
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>>52146775
If your an Arrancar like the Espadathen yes, but your only a bog standard Hollow until you buy the capstone.

As far as I remember no regular Hollow had Resurreccion, only Arrancar's.
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>>52146775
Its natural for Arrancar which are Vizards of the Hollow world. Just like Bankai you're paying to get something that would normally take time & effort.
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>>52146821
Yeah, but you also gave 1000 pp for more. And 200 pp more for shikai -unless I'm misreading that? - then another 500 cp on top of that.

that's 1700 pp, and 1200 in freebies.

also, this
>So importing 2 companions would be 100cp extra, 3 would be 100cp, and 4 would be 150cp.
seems wrong.
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>>52146829
Yeah that's what I also mean, Arrancar shouldn't be costing 600 CP. It's something that a sufficiently strong hollow could do, and 300 CP without a discount is good enough.
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>>52146798
Everyone kicks Hollow ass, including Quincis. Urahara wins his fight, and Yahwach invades and conquers the whole thing.
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>>52146821
The ones from >>52145984 are all part of the story, that's where I got them from. The natural for Arrancar and Visored are just a way to explain being one without being there for part of the plot, or being special like Ichigo and Starrk
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>>52146821
>Someone mentioned that it would become too big too fast.
So? Was that in-thread or in the IRC? It seems like an arbitrary limitation to a canon ability just because someone's uncomfortable that it's perfectly reasonable in the setting.
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>>52146821
Aren't Sternritter powers roughly equivalent to Bankai? Not to mention, you have to purchase that with 600/300 cp, it isn't some freebie.
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>>52146850
>Tfw, you find out this character has the same VA as Spongebob.
>Tfw, his whole scene in general.
Yeah, this season's gonna be alright.
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>>52146861
The reason why it costs so much is because Hogyoku Arrancar are far superior to natural ones, and you are explicitly better than other Hogyoku Arrancar.
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>>52146866
Most hollows are weak. Ainzen's arrancar were fresh faced experiments going up against seasoned elites & their back up. Grimmjow gave Ichigo a good fight. Plus they were the antagonists in a Shonen. When Ichigo & friends freed Shark Tits & friends, they were more than match for the new Quincies.

Only Ywach was really able to subdue the Hollow Arrancar. His Mary Sue meter is off the charts. Same with Ichigo's.
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>>52146855
it costs 200pp per additional purchase.
I might be misunderstanding something here
I was going to make it 50cp per one, but lowered it to every 2 count for 50cp to reduce the cost. I guess I can say rounded down.
>>52146861
Put the average Soul Reaper to hollows. Captains and Arrancars are equal, look at Yammy V. Zaraki.
Pretty much >>52146917

>>52146876
I believe it was in thread.
>>52146882
I really don't know, it looked like the sternritters needed multiple captains to fall.
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>>52146657
So is this an update of our jump or SB's?
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>>52146953
An entirely new one
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>>52146953
Reborn made the original Bleach. Although since it's such a huge overhaul I don't know if you can really call it an update.
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>>52146821
On the subject of Kira's shikai, on top of that being something of an arbitrary limitation since you can just buy Bankai and presumably bypass that flaw, the heavier your opponent is the harder they can hit you. Like doubling Superman's weight would do fuck all besides make him more dangerous, because he's strong enough to lift his weight multiplied hundreds of time with no effort.
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>>52146953
Ours
Pretty much >>52146960
>>52146965
though.
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Why do so many of you care about Bleach this much?
It's run-of-the-mill shounen.
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>>52146953
It's intended for this drive, so you still have the SB one unchanged if you want to use that.
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>>52146915
I know! It's going to the best, babe!
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>>52146986
It has cool looking powers.
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>>52146986
I don't want anything from the guy in Bleach, because Bleach is a terrible show.
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>>52146986
Why do you think?
PROTIP: it's because Jumpchain has shit taste.
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>>52146986
Because its Bleach, isn't it obvious?
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>>52146937
okay, so 1 or 2 is 50, 3 or 4 is 100, and 5 or 6 is 150?
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>>52146986
Bleach, Naruto, Fate, Marvel, DC, Exalted, Worm are the staple series of jumpchain. These are the core jumps, so discussion about them blowing out of control is normal.
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>>52146665
Yeah, my bad.

Arrancar don't actually have Shinigami powers, though. They acquire Shinigami-/like/ powers in that they seal their powers in a weapon and assume a more human form as well as gaining equivalents to basic Shinigami abilities like Cero to Kido and Sonido to Shunpo. But they don't actually have actual Shinigami powers or Zapakuto spirits in the way Visored get Inner Hollows and Cero and the like.
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>>52146917
Barely, only the Espada seem to be actually on the level you're thinking of, look at those two twins who hated Orihime, or the Faction(or however you spell that) most of them are just as strong as Lieutenants or third seats.
>>52146937
Once again, only the Espada are captain level, simply making you an Arrancar, unless it guarantees you a level similar to the Espadas isn't doing jack shit.
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>>52147004
But Jumper are you a true ULTIMATE ANIME HERO!?
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>>52146986
Sentient Soul Swords. Also, see pic.
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I finished the Neophyte tree in the background. That's three out of four background perk trees done, then I do the one for specific Factions. That leaves Noble for backgrounds, which is Rias and various Peerage/faction leaders. Suggestions welcome, as always.

Let me know how it looks.
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>>52146986
Because I like to see people punch each other and make explosions. I'm generally easily entertained, see.
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>>52146975
>>52147010

That works better, thank you.

>>52147015
It does, that's why I put in that you were pretty much the 11th espada
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>>52146986
There are a number of great waifus and some of the possible swords are really cool.
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>>52146975
If it was doubling mass, yes. But I think it's just "magically" doubling weight. Otherwise, I would think Kira would've shown a bit more trouble went he went to behead his pinned foes.
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>>52147035
Pic Related is always a good reason to care about a setting.
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>>52146986
It was one the Big 3 Shonen. It has pretty solid designs & characters. Just the story was shit. I mean look at German Hollow Quest, its pretty good from what I hear. They weren't really reinventing the wheel either. So Bleach had the potential, I mean the early stuff was good. I just think the mangaka stopped caring after Soul Society arc.
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>>52147080
>German Hollow Quest
>pretty good
ha ha ha ha
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>>52147053
In that case, you need a few 50 cp items.
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>>52147039
Looks perfect for playing the role of the puppet master/advisor, or the manipulative mentor who has the heroes' best interest at heart. Nice work, Heavens!
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>>52146937
I sorta remember that from the mannga, but honestly, that isn't really reflected well in the powers sections, since Sternritter seems roughly comparable or worse compared to the other origins Bankai/Resurreccion/whatever. Ira in particular seems to blow Strength out of the water.
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>>52147057
It wouldn't matter either way with Superman or other super strong people.
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>>52147053
Is there a reason why multiple purchases of Dissolving Blade are required for getting larger numbers of particles/blades? Wouldn't it make more sense for the number of particles/blades to be based on your power and the type of particles/blades your sword splits into?

The way it is now something like Rangiku's ash blade is vastly more expensive than Byakuya's flower petals despite being in no way better.
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>>52147119
If the jump was supposed to strictly reflect the manga then Sternritters should be near OTB by default, and just be balanced by a pain in the ass connection drawback
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Hey mardukth Do the Hellclaw Boots count as armor For the purposes of exalted martial arts?
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>>52147080
>Big Three Shonen
Let me guess: Dragonball, Bleach, and Naruto? What about One Piece?
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>>52147039

Looks like the perfect origin for a politician or agent, looks great bro
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>>52147318
Bleach Naruto and One Piece are the big three, Dragon Ball isn't in there. Dragon Ball is basically the shounen for hardcore weebs or oldschool weebs
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>>52147159
Huh? No the flower petals would be the same cost. Those things are microscopic, the appearance of flower petals is an illusion the blade casts. Still much better than the ash blade, though, you're right about that.
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>>52147318
Bleach Naruto and One Piece were the big three for a while.
Dragon Ball was from another era so it wasn't compared as much.
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>>52147318
Dragonball ended a while before the other ones, actually. Bleach, Naruto, and One Piece were the big three.

I don't know what the new hierarchy became after Bleach and Naruto ended.
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>>52147102
>>52147159
Fixed those
Buffed Drop-In
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>>52147039
I shall repeat what others have said and say that it looks like it's full of cool stuff for manipulating people for good or ill. I'm tempted to take this and infiltrate the Khaos Brigade so as to steal all their nice things. Not even necessarily because I want those things, just because having them be defeated by their accountant would be funny.
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>>52147349
Hero Academia, Black Clover, One Piece
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>>52147318
Dragonball was THE Shonen
Then it ended and came the Big Three.
Now some insane people keep asking "what's the next Big Three?" As if it HAS to be Three.
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>>52147318
>What about One Piece?
One Piece's popularity, at least in Japan, makes the other ones look like a bad joke. The big 3 are mostly a western idea
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>>52147409
It's three because of people tracking WSJ rankings and those three consistently showing up back in the day. The other places were erratic, and not all of them were even completely shounen. Seriously, just do a bit of research with the rankings, it's not like it's that hard.
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>>52147335
There are normally 1000 flower petals in Byakuya's shikai, this means two purchases of Dissolving Blade. Rangiku's Shikai is a flood of ash containing vast amounts of particles, five purchases being a rather conservative estimate. Rangiku's sword is weaker but copying it was more expensive due to the number of particles involved.

>>52147378
That works, thanks!
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>>52147133
I've always found that the idea of increased weight/gravity being a dangerous thing is something that gets overestimated. Like, for a human, fine. The strongest humans can comfortably lift at most a few times their weight, so ten times gravity can smush them easy. But things with super strength pretty casually lift masses thousands of times their own all the time. Increasing the force of gravity by a factor of five hundred shouldn't even phase them. And yet somehow it does.
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>>52147440
You misunderstand or are intentionally doing so for the sake of starting an argument. I didn't wonder why the "Big Three" existed. I wondered why people seem to think the next "Big Three" HAS to be Three.
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>>52146986
People really like their cleaning products. I do too. Look at this delicious looking soap.
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Wait, isn't it about two years after the start of the series that Ywach invades anyway?
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>>52146917
They're inferior to lieutenant shinigami, though.
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>>52146934
All the captains wrecked their counterpart with no effort. They're pathetic.
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>>52147469
About 2 years and 6 months at most yeah. It already got brought up that the drawback isn't worth 1000cp even if it happened immediately, much less at near canon times. Reborn seems to have decided he thinks it is worth 1000cp.
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>>52147170
Read through the conversation. The Sternritter powers are supposed to be better.
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>>52147457
>There are normally 1000 flower petals in Byakuya's shikai, this means two purchases of Dissolving Blade.
Yes, but each "petal" is not a contiguous object, it's an illusion cast by the reflection of many more microscopic razor particles.
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>>52147468
That's a dangerous soap.
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>>52147378
>World Tournament
Why is this here? Why is this even an option?
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>>52147458
I would guess lifting something heavy doesn't burden you anywhere near as much as your ENTIRE BODY becoming heavier. At that point it's more about making sure things like your lungs can still function with that strain, and that the most delicate tissues in your body have enough levels of super bullshit that they don't unravel under their own weight.
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>>52147493
He probably added one too many 0's.
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>>52146744

Hey Val I wanted to know about the strongest in the world drawback in street fighter would I be able to hide my identity or will the reporters always know where I am by fiat. Also sorry if this seems like a dumb question or you already answered it in advance
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Anon who mentioned Katawa Shoujo the other day, I invoke thee.

First of all, want to thank you for reminding me the game exists so I can have fun replaying it. Second on all, were you serious when you mentioned remaking a Jump off of it?
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>>52147547
I suppose, though most super-strong beings would have that sort of reinforcement anyway. Or they should, anyway, if there was competent biomechanics going into making them. No real guarantee of that, I guess.
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>>52147562
We do have a jump of it though don't we?
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>>52147562
>Yoro trying to push hard for a lewd jump.
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>>52147557
I'll have to get back to you in a bit on that, Bee's asleep for a few hours.
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>>52147159
Why do you think Haineko is such a weak blade compared to Senbonzakura? Rangiku's CP budget went into making the thing have as many ash particles as she wanted.
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>>52147562
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>>52147512
You've got a guy talking about Bankai being equivalent to Sternritter and then people waffling about Sternritter powers. Considering what some Sternritter powers can do OTB can really be used seriously here. You just need Gremmy's power and basically go wild.
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>>52147591
>I'll have to get back to you in a bit on that, Bee's asleep for a few hours.

Okay thanks, I can wait
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>>52147588
He's made it clear that he gives no fucks about using banned and illegal jumps.
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>>52147585
I wouldn't really call it a Jump. Besides, the Jump itself was banned.

>>52147588
Yep, you caught me. /sarcasm. It couldn't possibly be that I think the property would make a comfy SoL Jump with some excellent character building and writing potential.

>>52147611
Heh. It looks good. That sums up my Jumper very, very well. I feel like the picture in the lower right is mocking me. Thank you for including me in your project.
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>>52147551
I made it begin immediate, and with all sternritters beginning at full power.
Should it be tougher somehow?
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>>52147378
>Buffed Drop-In

Okay...

>Drop-In now starts with +100cp.

Uh, Rebornanon, nobody was complaining about Drop-Ins getting too little cp, the problem was the 1000+ _pp_ disparity. And given that 100cp can only buy 50pp...
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>>52147687
Still not worth 1000cp. If they were solely focused on attacking you? Then it'd be 1000cp. As is, you still have a huge number of allies and the means to kill Yhwach.
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>>52147676
Illegal jumps exist?
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>>52147688
They also got Transcendence which was also a major point,
What if they pay for power in a 1:1 ratio instead of the other's 2:1?
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>>52147562
KS anon here.
It was just something I tossed out there. Wasnt planning on anything to come of it. You gonna do it man? That'd be wicked.
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>>52147686
There's nothing to the setting but cripplefucking. Don't pretend it's somewhere with any substance whatsoever.
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>>52147512
Eh, some Sternritter powers are supposed to be better. I'm not sure how much of the OP was the inherent nature of Schrifts and Volstanding and how much was Yhwach having had time to assemble a core cadre of real ass kickers. Some of the Sternritters' powers were underwhelming, those were the ones that Yhwach had the least concerns about using as fuel to power up the others.
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>>52147718
Any jump not on our drive is considered illegal by some collective of anons. If you use them, discuss them, or post about them it's considered shitposting.

They basically made a new term because they couldn't call the jumps banned since the jumps had nothing wrong with them.
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>>52147738
It has a general that has had over 400 threads discussing the game.
There is no way that it is nothing but cripple fucking.
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>>52147753
I think you're the only one who uses that term, senpai. I've only ever heard jumps called banned.

>>52147759
Oh how little you know the autism of man.
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>>52147759
Don't use thread counts to justify things, you're going to trigger him, and I think he's probably the same guy as the anti-/twgg/ anon
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>>52147781
I would like you to spend a month in the katawa shoujo threads. You will understand true shitposting.
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>>52147759
You dropped a zero there it's actually over 4000
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>>52147778
invalid, illegal, whatever the term was. I only remember seeing it when people were trying to argue why the thread should ban dirge's jumps and nobody could bring up a valid reason outside of "they're not on our drive"
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>>52147753
>>52147781
Damn dude, you're dropping your usual tactics to support this. Makes me think you might actually be DD.
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>>52147753
And here I was thinking that someone actually got copyright law invoked on their ass or something.
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>>52147717
Righty-O then
Imminent attack incoming.

Buffed Drop in again as I said in >>52147726
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>>52147809
Yeah I was there. Nobody used 'illegal'.

You only had people arguing the ones not posted to the drive aren't acceptable, and you had the shitposters claiming all of his could be deleted. The only person ever saying illegal has bee you though.
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>>52147759
... Keep that innocence Anon.
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>>52147795
kawata shoujo threads have nothing on /b/ threads, asshole threads, liveleak threads. Don't talk about "true shitposting" if you're just going to bring up kiddy tier shit. Even Scarlettfucking is more intense shitposting than your kawata shit.
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>>52147731
I started taking notes while replaying the game as a sort of Jumpmaking practice. Get out of the bit of writer's block I stumbled into. Then all of a sudden I had 50% of a Jump. I didn't want to step on your toes though.

Also, thanks.

>>52147828
I want to believe no lawyer would ever stoop to checking 4-chan for copyright infringements. I want to. Hilarious scenario though.
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>>52147850
>Thinks /b/ isn't kiddy tier shit with its shock and awe crap.
You sound new to the site desu. If you think /b/ is some elite hackers on steroids anonymous legion then you're really, really late.
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>>52147828
No one here has enough money or authority IRL to actually raise a lawsuit, not to mention every jumpmaker is basically taking things from somebody else's property anyways. Pretty hard to make a case out of it.
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>>52147873
You should probably stick to QQ if you're making porn game jumps, Yoro. It's easy to argue things like Muv Luv and Fate should be allowed, but Katawa Shoujo is as empty of a setting as they come.
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>>52147891
You keep ringing that bell. Maybe someday a cow or two will wander into the barn. Personally, I doubt it, because that's a turd you're holding.
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>>52147726
Mechanically, the Transcendance perk costs DIs 300 vs other origins 600, or in pp terms a difference of 150pp.

Furthermore (not being familiar with Bleach), Transcendance as it is worded in its description doesn't seem like a big deal at all, perhaps you could include in the notes for it a reference to an actual feat or two accomplished via this method in the manga/anime so people can quickly get a better idea of why it's the DI's capstone perk and why that's supposed to make the DI origin an appealing choice when the others offer what they do.
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>>52147687
Zanpakuto builder (and presumably the others but this is the one I am paying the most attention to) seem rather restrictive. Considering how varied and personalized Zanpakuto are wouldn't it make sense for them to be more freeform?
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>>52147891
He's a fucking furfag, you're expecting him to listen?
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I...HAVE ARRIVED!

Grace [100 - Free for Noble] - The most important aspect of a leader is being able to look confident, even in moments of shame or stress. You have an excellent poker face, and are able to appear the part of a dignified noble with ease...even if you’re bleeding out terribly or are standing in front of an audience in nothing but your underwear. You will always appear confident and dignified when you wish it so, even if you’re screaming internally and wanting the day to be over.

And A Smile [100 - Free for Noble] - You’re just such a pleasant person to talk to, aren’t you? Whether it’s in a formal setting or just a relaxed hangout with friends of yours, you’re the life of any social gathering. You’re perfectly polite or informal when the moment calls for it, and you will find it easy to make new friends or engage in small talk. This doesn’t make deeper manipulations or close friends for you, but you’ll certainly find your foot in the door easily.


...what, were you expecting Den-O perks?

I can officially say I've enlisted Digger's help for Heisei Part 7, though. Once we're both done with our current pet projects, we'll be giving that a proper spin.
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>>52147832
>You only had people arguing the ones not posted to the drive aren't acceptable.
This is the truth though. If the jumpmaker didn't upload the jump it shouldn't be on the drive period. None of the jumps that people forced onto the drive ever got adequately critiqued. I don't know why we give SJ-Chan shit for forcing jumps on the drive when this kind of hypocrisy exists.
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>>52147831
And then World Tournament isn't worth 1000 CP for similar reasons. Also, why is it even a thing?
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>>52147932
Naw, the sword that represents your soul and who you are can be summed up with a few options for sure.
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>>52147912
Don't treat me like the shitposter because I'm pointing out facts to you here. Substanceless lewd settings aren't allowed as jumps. Fact. This has been reinforced repeatedly. Katawa Shoujo is a porn game. Fact. It has zero setting or substance outside of cripplefucking. Fact.

With all that in mind, is it really so unreasonable for you to try not to rock the boat and post it somewhere where it isn't banned? I mean god. I'm not even insulting you at all. The asshole who keeps responding to me is doing that.
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>>52147939
Interesting, veeeeeery interesting...
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>>52147939
Well, now you've gotten me all confused and wanting a Den-O/DxD crossover. A guy with a Sacred Gear that lets him voluntarily be possessed by some oni he's befriended would fit right in at Kunou, I think,
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>>52147970
>Facts
People here have ignored facts when it works in their favor for long enough that you shouldn't be surprised. You can scream about facts all you want, it won't change anything.
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>>52147970
>implying you and "the asshole" aren't the same person

Riiiiiiigt. We believe you, anon.
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Stands are the manifestation of the soul, correct? Does that mean that having a stronger soul would give you a stronger Stand? Or make your Stand stronger?
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>>52147952
No jump has ever been adequately critiqued because there are no consistant standards.
It's just whatever people feel like at the time.

This is why people that bitch about muh critique are a joke, because there are no hard guidelines.
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>>52147998
>The "We're all the same person" meme
Lel
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>>52147994
Except the fact that all those braindead porn game jumps never did get on the drive, nor the generic porn ones (there's three, most of you are only old enough to know one). Nothing has changed on that front.

>>52147998
Yes anon, ignore post timers.
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>>52147999
Eh. It flip-flops between whether they're soul projections or psychic projections.

Pick an interpretation you want, even if it's half-and-half, and wank just enough that you don't tear skin.
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>>52147999
Kind of? It's not so much your soul in general as your will and fighting spirit. Though a lot of settings have a stronger soul increasing those, so I'm sure it would work.
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>>52147999
Answer is fanwank. Stands are some wierd fighting spirit thing though so I'm not sure if that would work.
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>>52148001
>No consistant standards
>muh critique are a joke
Is that you Dirge? Haven't gotten BTFO enough on SB today? I thought you'd get a clue and fuck off from here already.
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>>52147999
I thought JoJo stands were a manifestation of your will to fight and CoCo stands were a manifestation of your desire to attain happiness?
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>>52148040
Damn I wish I was Dirge. Then I'd have something to live for that wasn't escapism.
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>>52148040
>Dirge
>BTFO
Is this some shitty new meme?
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>>52147726
>>52147915

Or to put it another way: is being able to buy Transcendence for 300cp and missing out on 1000pp of additional powers, as good as buying another origin for 100cp and getting 1000pp of additional powers + the ability to buy another 500pp for another 300cp that also nets you a capstone ability?
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>>52148054
Yes. Yes it is.
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>>52148054
Yes. It's particularily strange because dirge can't lose arguments he never has.
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>>52148022
>>52148023
>>52148024
Gotcha, I'll figure something out then. Thanks, anons.

>>52148043
I don't think so. If I remember right, Avdol had a Stand even as a simple fortune teller.
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>>52147912
This fecal obsession is disgusting frankly.
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>>52148054
>Shitposter forced Dirge to leave /jc/. Dirge becomes a SB only jumpmaker instead. Shitposter now brings up how Dirge gets BTFO daily when he posts in SB.

Except part two isn't even true because Dirge has nothing on SB's drive and uses his own. The shitposter just knows that as he keeps shitposting with Dirge's name, we'll never get another jump from him again.
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>>52147955
Fighting a lot of strong people to earn the points?
>>52148057
Since you get a bonus 100 it would cost 200 to buy it, most people go for that so you have a 400cp leg up on them you can use to buy more capstones.
I'd say they're about equal at this point.
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>>52147970
On the off-chance this isn't some kind of inception shitposting, I'll answer you honestly then.

Katawa Shoujo is a Visual Novel with a few porn scenes in it. I'm not trying to deny that. There's one to three per route. However, it is entirely possible to play the game without them turned on. It's a toggle you can select right there in the options before you even get into anything. You'll miss out on very little, with the exception of one fairly emotional scene, if you do this.

As such, the lewdness rule does not apply, because you can safely remove the lewd and have a substantial amount of the content left. All of the worldbuilding, character development, and story take place outside of these scenes.

I will not be building the Jump to represent those scenes in any way.

I would also like to point out that Jumps have been made on substantially lighter properties in the past and were accepted onto the drive. Goat Simulator? Basically a sandbox game about goats. Girlchan in Paradise? A badly made parody short film. The list goes on.

And while I will not argue that Katawa Shoujo has the deepest story line or the most complex of plots, I will whole-heatedly refute your claim that there is nothing but 'cripplefucking' to the setting.

So, now, if you have anything beyond a simple dismissal of my arguments to say, I will listen.
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>>52147831
>Import 3 companions with this origin as you with 600cp to spend
Shouldn't this be
>Import 3 companions with this origin with 600cp to spend
or
>Import 3 companions with the same origin as you with 600cp to spend
Presumably the first one since it wouldn't make sense for there to be so many separate companion options that each gave you companions of your own origin.
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>>52148114
You don't realize that in all likelihood you're arguing with somebody who only has passing knowledge of a series based on its most mimetic parts.

It's the same people who argue that Taimanin Asagi is all about ass rape and sex, ignoring the fact that Asagi's organization is literally just one wing out of a corrupt human society trying to find some sort of compromise with the demons, while sacrificing their women. The backstory and the reason the plot moves is because of the corruption and the international politics, and yet the only thing people normally think of is pig on women sex.

You can't convince these people to think of anything else because the only thing they want to consider is the sex, reinforced by the hundreds of other people who are in it for the sex.
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>>52148173
If you want to argue for this paradigm you REALLY need to learn tact and not use a game that's 99% hardcore rape porn. Use something a lot less extreme.
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>>52148188
Rance?
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>>52148084
>we'll never get another jump from him again.
We have 700 something jumps. I don't think one jumpmaker gone makes much of a difference.
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>>52148100
And yet if I go for a different origin, I get the equivalent of 1000cp more to spend on other powers plus my origin freebie powers, and I still have 800 or 900cp left to buy Transcendence since it's apparently so fantastic.
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>>52148114
Yet there's nothing to the setting that makes it a place you want to go to. That's always been the criteria, if you can take out the porn scenes and it still has value. But all there is here if you do that is one guy flirting with some cripples. How is there anything to it for the jumper to do? The only thing there is to go to cripple school and try to snipe the waifus, but what if you don't want to do that? It's just our world, without even a theme or genre to glue to it.
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>>52146986
Naruto, Bleach, and FMA introduced me to anime and manga.
Of the three, the only one I still enjoy for more than the fight scenes is FMA. The feels hit home, man. Consistently.
The other two are simply trainwrecks I can't look away from. Morbid curiosity keeps me going.
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>>52148188
>Anon goes on about how the game isn't all about rape porn
>"Anon that game is nothing but hardcore game porn"
...did you just manage to prove his point completely? bravo anon, bravo.
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>>52148100
>>52148202
Maybe give Drop-In 250PP in a pool of their choosing and the rest only 500PP in their pools, or give Drop-In one discounted capstone from another background
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>>52148229
Anon goes on about how there is a setting behind it while ignoring what the actual games are like or how the setting works in regards to sexuality. It's called manipulative language.

>>52148193
Better example, but one we've specifically argued against since early on.
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>>52147831
>You can either sever this chain of fate, and become a true spiritual being (aka a ghost), or crawl back into your body and
continue life.

Uh, is there _any_ reason to become a ghost? Don't those all pretty much end up:

1. chopped by a reaper's magic sword and sent to heaven, game over.
2. eaten by a qincy and digested for power, game over.
3. turn into a mindless monster that eventually gets #1 or #2 done to it anyway?
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Has there been any significant magic-use in AoS? I mean, /surely/ there's more than whips, mandalas, and sling-rings, considering there are entire libraries dedicated to the mystic arts and dozens of tomes of forbidden knowledge? Those might just be examples of practicing one kick 1000 times instead of 1000 kicks 1 time, I feel.
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>>52148256
>Specifically argued against
So? Take the lewd out of Rance and you have a huge fantasy/sci fi mixed world. You'd either support Rance being allowable or you have to admit you're arguing in bad faith.
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>>52148173
That's... that's a hentai. A straight up hentai. Why would you even reference that when you're trying to make a point like that?

>>52148215
The same could be said about Slice of Life and several other near-Earth settings. Jumpers could attend classes, explore the world, take a vacation, hit on the local hotties, have a manly picnic with Hisao and Kenji.

Personally? I think it's a very emotionally charged property that would offer a great place to grow as a person.
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>>52148294
So it's not more likely to work now.

I won't argue for anything because if you'll notice, my post is about how he picked a really shitty example to argue for. That's not a position on the issue, that's a position on his example.
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>>52148215
Nine To Five
The Room
Sports
Mad Men
Breaking Bad
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I see Decade has commandeered several computers at once tonight.

Need some help on Noble perks. I know what to do with the capstones (one is a super charisma perk, the other is building a powerbase effectively overnight), but I'm not sure about the 200s and 400s. Themes are leadership and 'old blood' sort of legacy behind you. Might opt for more supernatural skill? I'll take suggestions on this one.
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>>52148256
>Manipulative Language
Aren't you doing the exact same thing by trying to draw focus here on what the actual games are like when other jumps focus on the setting? You come off as "There's a setting but I don't care for this jump because the game mechanics are lewds". From what I can understand this setting has more of a plot than Senran Kagura does, so why are we suddenly ignoring the setting in favor of game mechanics?

Is it just a coin toss whether we choose to evaluate a jump on game mechanics or setting lore? Or is this >>52148215 anon talking out of his ass?
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>>52148290
Don't think so, but at the end of the credits, Strange transmutes a cup of tea into a refilling mug of beer. So, yeah, there is some evidence that there's more to the mystic arts than we've been shown.

Which can be expected. Those special effects aren't cheap, you know.
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When did we get a Rainbow Six Siege Jump?
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>>52148309
Not really? Slice of life has a genre glued to it, that's what my last sentence is about. It's mundane, but it's based on an entire genre so it has stuff to do. That's what it's substance is.

>Attend classes
So go to regular highschool?
>Explore the world
So explore regular earth?
>Take a vacation
I don't think that really justifies a jump.
>Hit on the local hotties
Yes, sex is something you could do, but it's probably not what you want to use to say there's something more than sex to do.

I think what you're missing here though, is that the reason it's emotionally charged is because of waifus. You care about these characters and their romance. That's not going to be captured in some jump because those interpersonal relationships do not exist, not everyone is in it for cripplefucking, and the people you care about here basically have to be stolen from the MC.

>>52148317
See above.
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>>52148328
Perhaps a perk for getting people who would normally fight each other to get along? Or a perk for usurping weak leaders to take command yourself? Perhaps a perk that allows you to quickly build loyalty in your followers, or one what allows you to back your words up with your family name, with all the power that comes with it?
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>>52148363
>Take a vacation
>I don't think that really justifies a jump.
What?
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>>52148352
Last Wednesday-ish.
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>>52148328
The ability to get turned into a ghost.
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>>52148294
>Jumper puts an impotence curse on Rance.
What happens?
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>>52148328
Connections Perk?

Easier time finding competent minions?

Greater ability in your bloodlines type of magic, such a Demon style magic or Holy magic?

You personally have a lot more leeway with your actions in the supernatural world due to your bloodline being recognized and respected?

An easier time making money perk, after all your a Noble not some Pleb who has to WORK to gain their money?
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>>52148391
His hyper weapon explodes.
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>>52148391
Nothing
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So, what can be done to prevent olga marie's and doctor romani's death when the Fate Grand Order jump comes out?
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>>52148410
Rewrite reality
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>>52148328
Maybe some Power of Destruction type thing like Gremory has? Some unique power linked to a bloodline. Unless that would go somewhere else. Maybe something like innately good reputation with higher society?
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>>52148363
I don't see how that counteracts the listed jumps. Especially Nine to Five. The Jump about going through a regular job on regular earth. Something many people are already doing now, and it is a jump.
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>>52148328
Kind of meta, but a perk to keep people from assuming the worst about you. Based off of how very many fanfics there are that interpret Rias as a horrible manipulative monster that sees her peerage as nothing more than tools. This is, of course, completely the opposite of her canon personality, but a lot of edgy fanfics like to portray her as this just because she has some improbably luck in acquiring her pieces, so clearly she orchestrated all those events.
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>>52148332
No, because you would be making a jump for the games, because as we saw earlier, people don't take kindly to background jumps. That's what the property actually IS.

Moreover, trying to paint it as innocent political intrigue is outright lying and disingenuous and unfair to people. Recognizing what the world actually is, is important to understanding how people would interact with the setting. Not telling them that everyone will be trying to rape them, that everyone they talk to will have a basement crawling with rape slaves, and that all kinds of mindbreaking parasites and even wildlife will be waiting eagerly to turn them into cock sluts is misleading and hostile to jumpers.
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>>52148410
Olga Marie doesn't die if I remember correctly, but rather gets thrown to another dimension. Tsukihime I think, and helps with some plot that I can't remember.
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>>52148443
He's shitposting about his imaginary standards for what a jump should be. Don't take it seriously, it's a waste of time.
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>>52148328
If I knew more about that series in particular I would help. But the only thing I could offer would be generics at the very best.

There's always the classic Rallying Cry, a shout that raises the morale and combat effectiveness of your allies. Or a more passive version, like an Inspiring Presence.

>>52148363
You are quite clearly talking out of your ass here. Entire settings have been made around a Jumpmaker wanting to take a vacation in a world. By your logic, a few dozen Jumps on the Drive should not exist in the first place.

But, hey, I can see I'm not going to change your mind on this. So, I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to continue working on this quite valid Jump you clearly have no experience with... and you do you.

Happy Jumping Anon. And I sincerely mean that.
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>>52148363
>I don't think that really justifies a jump.
Some jumpers take vacation jumps all the time, there are loads of settings that are great for doing nothing but hanging out on a beach for ten years.
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>>52148464
Did you even watch the first episode? She's dead from the get go. The Tsukihime insert was a series in joke from one of the 4komas.
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>>52148459
>Not telling them that everyone will be trying to rape them, that everyone they talk to will have a basement crawling with rape slaves, and that all kinds of mindbreaking parasites and even wildlife will be waiting eagerly to turn them into cock sluts is misleading and hostile to jumpers.
And this is where you know anon is talking straight out of his ass.
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All this talk about what is and isn't lewd has got me thinking.
Would a chuck tingle verse jump work?
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>>52148486
>I'm going to continue working on this quite valid Jump

Oh, shit, really? Is this a claim?
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>>52148375
>>52148492
>>52148486
It's the equivalent of making a jump that's just you on a hawaiian resort for ten years.

'Vacation jumps' as a concept, which doesn't seem to have really caught on, was always more about 'easy' settings you could visit to unwind, never just, you know, going on a regular earth vacation. So like I'm saying here, what's Katawa Shoujo's gimmick outside of Hanako and all the others? Is there something to it other than those characters? If you want to capture the feeling you got from the game it's impossible to divorce it from the characters here.

>>52148443
Because it's a genre, dude. It has something to hang its hat on.
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>>52148527
I can't remember, is this the same guy who does the dinosaur billionaire sex books, or are they two people exploring similar genres?
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>>52148486
I get a strong vibe that you're the type of person who will do something no matter what anyone tells you, then wonders why people are angry at you.
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>>52148521
You just fucking told me your argument is based on what you've heard about Taimanin Asagi. You're the one talking out of your ass here.

Let me guess, you've been reading about it on vndb? Or fiddling with the fucking card game I'm guessing (and somehow missing all the rape and rape creatures there magically.)
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>>52148544
Those are a few of his many themes.
There's a good chance they're the same guy.
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>>52148459
That's an exaggeration desu. Taimanin Asagi is a grimderp nukige. That's why everyone seen in the story is a rapemonsterman, not because the whole setting is like that.
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>>52148527
>>52148562
what

This can't actually be a real, non-parody thing.
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>>52148486
I bet if I found the old generic furry jump you'd be up for a remake, right?
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>>52148530
You've gone through so much goalpost moving that you've failed to communicate anything except that you're against an idea and you're willing to argue like an autist about it.

First you went "It's only about cripplefucking" then you moved to "the setting has nothing of substance", then you went "as long as it has a genre it's ok", then you went "if you're going to make a jump you must adhere strictly to the game mechanics therefore railroad into cripples" then you went "It's only because of the characters that there's a story" as if that even needed to be said. Now you're trying to say "if a genre hasn't caught on it, it's invalid" and "jumps need a gimmick in order to be a jump".

Even the folks who didn't give a shit about Kawata Shoujo would be more happy to support it if it means getting you to shut the fuck up. Because you're not making any good arguments against it, and you're about as annoying as DDanon was for it.
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>>52148585
Chuck Tingle is a very real writer who sells his work on Amazon.com.
His Tinglers always have unique titles.
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>>52148577
It's an exaggeration simply because yes, there are normal people living in the shithole. That's about it, everything I said about the place is true if you're talking about villains and/or anyone all that important.

Also the fact that it is a nukige is just further enforcing that it's not something that really belongs here.
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>>52148585
It's an actual thing, though I'm not sure if it's supposed to be a parody or not. But yeah, those books actually exist, and can be bought for Kindle/on Amazon. Look it up yourself.
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>>52148585
It is real. I'm not sure if it started as a parody, but given how many of them exist now I'm certain that if it ever was it no longer is. There is a market for dinosaur and sapient plane pornography.
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>>52148591
Honestly, I think this is Red with her trip off. And if Yoro making this jump gets rid of her in the process, two good things will have happened.
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>>52148577
He doesn't care. Anon has decided that this is his autist hill to die on. Watch him end up being Rulescuck.
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>>52148528
>MFW

>>52148530
I will absolutely be doing my best to capture the feeling of the Jump besides just hanging it on the characters themselves. That's part of the challenge of making a Jump in the first place.

>>52148545
I like to think of myself as considerate and willing to listen, but I have seen no valid points presented beyond "cripplefucking = no" which shifted to looking for a "gimmick" to hang it's hat on when that was argued again.

The goalposts have been moved so far downfield that they've installed moving sidewalks to help the crowd keep up with the action.
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>>52148644
Good luck and godspeed. Don't let that idiot's screaming get to you.
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>>52148644
>moving sidewalks
Is that a thing yet? I remember so many cartoons would talk about how we'd have those and other crazy shit in the future, and I've always wondered what they'd actually be like if they really existed.
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>>52148671
horizontal escalators exist, but they are almost always indoors.
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>>52148437
>>52148447
>>52148400
>>52148374
Much thanks for all suggestions! Here's what I got so far.

I Know Someone [200 - Discount for Noble] - You happen to know people. And if you’re in a new location or world, it doesn’t take you long to get to know even more people. All sorts of people. Rumormongers, newspaper printers, occult clubs, or whatever else would be relevant in the world you’re in - people who hear things, know things, and always have a juicy bit of information. You can quickly establish a web of contacts and people who can gather intelligence for you - not quite super spy agencies unless you already have such available, but enough to give you word on local happenings regarding important individuals and factions. You will also find it easy to establish diplomatic contact with other organizations and factions, quickly avoiding any...messy and unnecessary conflict. No need to dirty your hands when you can make friends out of enemies, right?

The Midas Touch [200 - Discount for Noble] - You know what plebeians or Neophytes have to struggle for? Money. You know what gets mortals to move mountains and makes your summer trip for you and your friends amazing? Money. You know things you have trouble with? Money isn’t one of those things. While you may be rolling in dosh already from your family’s holdings or your own hard-earned cash, you are an amazingly competent businessman (or woman) who can quickly turn a dime into 10k with some time and investment, able to quickly secure a large amount of legal income for yourself with little effort. Of course, illegal activities or certain supernatural powers can make those dividends increase tenfold or more...just try not to caught.
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>>52148671
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_walkway

They've had these things for years. Mainly in airports, but you can find them in other places where people are expected to walk long distances. Almost exclusively indoors.

>>52148667
Thanks Anon. And don't worry, I won't.
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>>52148671
They exist, mostly in airports.
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>>52148591
You only think a goalpost has been moved because you think all individual points have to encapsulate the entire concept.

"it's only about cripplefucking' and 'the setting has nothing of substance" are the same point phrased differently. Talking about genre is in reference to other jumps and why they have substance. You're going to have to explain to me where you saw game mechanics. Finally, the point about the characters was in response to Yorokonde insisting the value of the setting was the emotional appeals, thus bringing in an argument that it's the people, not the place, he is interested in, and how that's not going to stretch to the jumper. Then, gimmick is just a rephrasing of genre.

I hope this explains what should be an easy argument to you.

Also I'm not seeing much support except the taimani usagi guy and the shitposter.

>>52148644
How are you going to get the jumper to connect to NOBODY? Again, the setting is nothing. The only thing it has is characters. If you don't want to cuck the maincharacter there's nothing for the jumper here.
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>>52148671
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>>52148671
>I've always wondered what they'd actually be like if they really existed.
A massive pain in the ass, probably.
Normal escalators and slidewalks indoors are dangerous enough.
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>>52148671
Moving sidewalks would probably be very annoying. Trying to cross the street would be irritating for one thing.
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>>52148619
The way you just dropped Red out of nowhere earlier gives me the distinct vibe this is just the shitposter being pro-lewd as his bait of choice right now.
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Well I guess Yorokonde's trying to pull a Val-maneuver and 'break another barrier.'

First it was on end-jumps. Now it's on lewd jumps.
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>>52148710
>How are you going to get the jumper to connect to NOBODY? Again, the setting is nothing. The only thing it has is characters. If you don't want to cuck the maincharacter there's nothing for the jumper here.
>Expecting jumps to be made because people want to connect to people.
>Not realizing that people make jumps to get powers and items.
>Not realizing that plenty of people take jumps without giving half a rat's ass about story.
How can you be this new? You've literally demonstrated the transformation into a shitposter with your posts, Rulescuck. You were already bad when you drove Dirge away and tried to get his jumps banned with your rules shit, but this is just amazing.
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>>52148731
Really? I got the idea it was someone trying to make it look like the shitposter was for it so they could discredit it. It just seemed kind of suspicious...
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>>52148731
Rulescuck is Red? I thought Rulescuck was the guy who decided that all of Dirge's jumps had to be banned because Dirge refused to upload them onto Brutus's drive.
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>>52148761
Katawa Shoujo is only considered lewd because DDanon made the old jump.
Nobody would give a shit if he didn't go full retard.
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>>52148527
>>52148562
>>52148607
...
...I don't-
...Can't even-

It- Its so confusing. I don't know if I should feel amazed or disappointed in humanity right now.

Both. Both is good. I'll be both.

I'm disamazointed in humanity.

There Internet, you win. I give up.
Carry on.
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>>52148761
I'm hoping original settings are next. I mean, generics kind of count, but I want some really detailed original work. That could be cool. Weave your worlds, jump makers! I believe in your ability to make compelling settings all your own.
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>>52148710
Wow, anon. Thanks for reminding me that The fucking Room and Breaking Bad have interesting, not-just-modern-Earth settings that don't rely entirely on their characters. Oh wait...
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>>52148767
Not 'expecting', it's what he actually stated to be the value he found in the VN. His emotional connection to the characters.
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>>52148805
A druglord must be interesting if so many people watched it.
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>>52148800
We had an anon who tried before, had an OC setting revolving around plants and tiers of superpowers or something. The reception wasn't that great, and they probably realized that there were better uses for their OC than letting some jumpers wreck it.
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>>52148800
We already have Masters of Red dude.
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>>52148786
No, anon, he's saying that he thinks the shitposter is trying to shit on Red again by "supporting" the cause of Katawa Shoujo being let on by accusing "Rulescuck" of being Red. Or something like that.
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>>52148813
The value that he finds in a VN does not necessarily equate to the reason why he wants to make it a jump. Seems kind of stupid to assume that there's only one reason because he lists one reason. Do you really need everything listed out for you?

I'll give you a 3/10 for baiting a response out of me with such low tier shit. Continue to work on your shitposting anon.
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>>52148710
I would highly suggest you see what I did with Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen. That game has very little in the way of story, yet I believe I did an excellent job of drawing up a setting that the Jumper can connect and relate to. I believe I will be able to fill in the gaps in Katawa Shoujo just as well.

Secondly, the main character only ever chooses one girl. One, out of the whole school. And that's if he doesn't accidentally Bad End. You make it sound like the game is about hopping back and forth between all the girls at once. Which isn't even CLOSE to the case.

Thirdly, you continue to ask for a gimmick of some kind, while completely ignoring the plethora of Jumps that have tossed this to the wind long before I got here. Not everything has to be about a gimmick or about raw power.

Again, I would suggest you actually play the source material. It's literally free. Just click off the box in the options and you won't even be assaulted by any lewdness.

Here's a link: https://www.katawa-shoujo.com/download.php

Now then, I'm off for bed. All of you have a very nice night and I look forward to seeing you again soon.
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>>52148843
This makes even less sense. The post he tagged had no mention of Red in it. Is it some kind of secret IRC illuminati knowledge that Red is actually Rulescuck trying to get Dirge's shit banned, and everyone knows but me?
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>>52148890
Stop you'll give him ideas.
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>>52148138
Yes! It should.
>>52148239
I guess so. And so I did
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>>52148863
But it does relate to the reason why he feels it works as a jump and isn't just porn.

Also it strikes me as funny that you're the one posting critical, paranoid responses then accusing ME of baiting you.

>>52148881
But does Ogre Battle have something to it beyond mundane school with the MC and his girls?

This second point is basically 'it's okay to make this to pick up the girl I like because I can say the MC only went for this other one'.

What generic/mundane jumps have given up having a genre? I already addressed those examples above,
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>>52148890
He's talking about this post >>52148617.
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>>52148881
Will there be a Teacher origin of some sort?
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>>52148961
The statutory rape background.
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>>52148922
>Locations: Chosen from origins, or decide where you start for 100cp.

Origins don't mention starting locations?
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>>52148930
I'd call him paranoid too, except you are blatantly baiting people. You're arguing over something that multiple people have told you to fuck off over by now, but you've decided that they're wrong and you're right, so you refuse to just back down. Even after Yoro has left, you continue to spew shit all over the place, evidently refusing to back down until you get him to say to you that he's wrong and he'll never make another jump that goes against your opinion again. When you repeatedly try to draw people into an argument over something they don't want to argue about, that's called bait anon.
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>>52148193
My sides have reached escape velocity
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>>52148930
Look, you won with Dirge. You got him to leave, and made it so that no one can use his jumps without giving you rightful reason to shit on them. Go celebrate that all you want, but stop shitting on somebody else just because your rulescuck ass got triggered.
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>>52148972
…The teachers in Katwalk Shoulder rape statues?
What even.
I don't think it even counts as rape when it's a statue. They're not thinking beings, are they?
So it should really be some sort of public depravity crime or something.
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>>52148922
If you purchase Dissolving Blade and Sentries, can you have your sentries be separate groups of particles?
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>>52148999
If someone telling you to fuck off means you should, then why do we have any jumpmakers at all when assholes keep trying that?

>>52149023
You've been trying this all night. Who you think to fool by associating a drive argument with the porn one is beyond me, but the way you keep fetishposting is disconcerting.
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>>52149050
I want to believe you're not actually this stupid but Poe's Law exists for this reason.
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>>52148996
either roll 8 or choose the location from your origin.
>>52149059
I dont see why not
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>>52149050
I hope you're being sarcastic and are not actually this stupid.

Statutory Rape is any illegal sex between an 'adult' and a 'minor'. It is rape because the law legally does not recognize the ability of the minor to consent. Statue refers to a legal statue in this case.
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That's "statute", you idiots.
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>>52148972
Are teachers in this universe required to have sex with their students or something?
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>>52148800
You know, I have this really interesting setting involving fascist lesbians I've been working on...
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>>52149131
According to the anon arguing against it, everybody in the universe rapes any crippled they see. It seems to be one of those situations where if a crippled shows up in public, everybody drops what they're doing to rape them, regardless of gender.
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>>52149087
I don't see the line about drop ins getting 250?
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>>52149150
1. People can just scroll up to see your nonsense.

2. Why are you dragging an unrelated argument into things? Go away, nobody was talking about that in this line of replies.
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Speaking about unconventianal jumps how does the idea of a top gear jump sounds?
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>>52149150
Gotta earn that welfare somehow.
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>>52149171
I believe someone is already making it.
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>>52149080
>Who you think to fool by associating a drive argument with the porn one is beyond me
Are you just pretending to not know why people are calling you Rulescuck, or do you really not know why people are calling you Rulescuck?
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>>52149146
Go for it, anon! Believe in your dreams!
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>>52149179
Dude. As the one who had that claim there's been nothing about it for ages.

Let the dude make it.
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>>52148922
Is Overkiller a permanent buff?
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>>52148922
Which did you give for the drop in? I can't see what changed?
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>>52148922
>reads Drop-In changes.
Hmm.
DI: +100cp. 0pp. can buy 500pp for 300pp. can buy 100pp for 100cp.
!DI: -100/200cp. +1000pp. can buy 500pp for 300pp. can buy 50pp for 100cp.

I still think they're not mechanically balanced, but I'd appreciate it if someone who actually knows Bleach could look over the perks and powers of the various origin and give a second opinion on whether what the DI's can buy at a discount is worth what they can't.

>>52149158
They get to discount any one capstone perk of their choice instead.

>>52149087
>either roll 8 or choose the location from your origin.
>the location from your origin
Which is?
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>>52149084
Fuck I forgot the ;^)

>>52149103
I know, Bodacious. And it is 'statute', not 'statue'.

>>52149150
>everybody in the universe rapes any crippled they see
Sounds like a dangerous place to Peter Dinklage.

>>52149171
I was disappointed when I realized you said Top GEAR, not Top GUN.
I wanna be in the Danger Zone.
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Crossed Swords [400 - Discount for Noble] - Whoever said it was hard to find good help these days obviously wasn’t trying hard enough. Even when you find yourself starting from the ground up, you will find competent and unique individuals drawn to you and whatever cause you’re working towards. They may not necessarily have iron-clad loyalty, but you won’t have too much difficulty securing it if you work towards it. These stars of destiny aren’t necessarily the strongest or brightest a land has to offer, but their potential is great and they will more than aid you in fulfilling your own goals as you work together. A single Jumper with nothing to their name could assemble a team of skilled Independent warriors, and a Noble of great standing will find some of the strongest in their faction flying behind their banner. Let it never be said that you stand alone.

My Blood, My Legacy [400 - Discount for Noble] - There’s something to be said about nepotism or favoritism, but if there is, you’re too busy enjoying the benefits to really care. Your bloodline or standing in the supernatural world is respected enough that you find you have more leeway in bending the rules of your faction - not only that, but hypocrisy or rule-breaking on your part is just flat-out ignored in terms of your respect and standing. As long as you didn’t blatantly betray or put a knife towards the heart of your faction, your behavior is not only tolerated but twisted into look like something admirable for your reputation. Whether from fear or awe, no one dares to speak out to you...and invoking your family’s name and standing will do wonders to shift an argument or a social situation in your favor.


How do these look?
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>>52149182
>People
I know what YOU are doing, but I also don't see your logic in thinking it makes sense or that you'll actually spread it around.

Also that whole 'all rules should die' position is not very likely to avail you. Support bending, not breaking, if you want to actually accomplish anything.
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>>52149203
my bad, I skimmed over it.
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>>52149171
What would the origins be? Clarkson, May, Hammond, and Drop-In (The Stig)?

Would there be a US version drawback?
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>>52149217
Looks great.
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>>52149207
>And it is 'statute', not 'statue'.
FUCK.
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76. Career Model
Age: 24, Origin: Photographer
Location: Milan
Perks: Hand Model (Eyes, Teeth, Nose, Abs, Butt, Junk, Hands, Chest, Legs, Hips), Numb-Minding Brilliance, Natural Makeup Artist, Shot Heard Round The World, No Pixels Here, Bikini Bod
Items: Studio Make-up, Super-Scope and Lenses, Invisible Needle and Thread
Drawbacks: Wage-Hiking Scuuuuuuuuuuuum!

I always take this drawback, because I love this drawback. It's a good drawback that turns something from a stressful or boring job into a spy thriller.

I am a thorn in everybodies side this jump, freeing beauty from the tyranny of those fascist fashion houses and the dominance of the magazine elite. I will develop ki and hamon techniques to attack clothes and make-up directly without harming the people who wear them, freeing sweatshop workers from their wage-slavery, and fighting for justice in aesthetics with my own start-up magazines. No two will be the same and I shall start 10000 artistic movements this jump. It will be a victory of the people over those who would control the world with a sewing kit and a silenced pistol.

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, Anon! Now get beholding.
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>>52149218
>Support bending, not breaking, if you want to actually accomplish anything
You actually think that people here want to accomplish anything? Christ how deluded are you son? You're in prime shitposting hour providing prime shitposting material by /jc/ standards, and you expect people to take you seriously?

The only person who wanted to accomplish something has a WIP to show for it, you're a fucking fool if you think anyone else was actually serious beyond shitposting. From the moment anyone mentions an SBer it should be obvious that they're shitposting. How many times does it take before you learn?
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>>52149171
I'd be more interested in a Grand Tour jump.
That shit's even funnier.
Or would you be including that?
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>>52149146
So long as they're the well dressed kind of a fascists that want to gas certain demographics and don't have blue hair I'm all for it.

>>52149207
You know the rules
make it happen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyAn3fSs8_A
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>>52149217
Do you REALLY want to be here right now? I mean, take a look around you. This cesspit is much worse than SB, which is itself pretty horrible. I think it'd be better for all of us if you left, the thread not needing to endure another one of your lewd jumps, and you not having to put up with endless shitposting. It's a win-win, no matter how you look at it.
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>>52149158
I did the other thing of a free capstone
>>52149201
no
>>52149206
thats too much imo
this is the last freebie for drop-in
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>>52149262
Calling him an SBer does everything in the world to delegitimize you, to the point where I wonder why you even bothered with the charade of supporting KS in the first place.
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>>52149226
“Some say he never blinks, and that he roams around the woods at night foraging for wolves. All we know is he’s called the Jumper.”

I want a perk where rumours like that pop up about you.
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>>52149286
How does Codicia work? Does it only work on spiritual beings? Do you need to be in Resurrecion to access the powers?
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>>52149286
>Changelog doesn't say again, again, again, again, again
booooooo
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>>52149183
...That wasn't the response I was expecting.

>>52149271
Well I mean they're definitely into the genocide thing, but about the blue hair...

Well I mean it's not like it's really visible behind the gas mask and helmet.
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>>52149296
You're assuming I'm the one supporting KS. I wouldn't have even posted if your comment wasn't so idiotic, implying that people care that much about your rules shit when you've literally had what, two, maybe three people outside of Yoro in your circlejerk shitpost?
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Ya'll need to be more like Magneto.
This is stupid
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>>52149286
>>>52149206 (You)
>thats too much imo

Er, what's too much? I didn't ask for more, I just listed what you'd provided (DI = Drop In, !DI = Not Drop In), said I thought it wasn't balanced based on points alone, and asked for someone who knows Bleach to see whether the content of the perks made up the difference.
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Divine Right [600 - Discount for Noble] - When you speak, the world changes beneath your feet. Well, not literally, but it can FEEL like that sometimes. You are a natural leader - you can unite teams of conflicting personalities and skillsets and create a force to be feared, and are skilled enough in both courtly dealings and socializing that you can move an entire crowd to action with a compassionate speech. Even better, your actions create an upwards momentum in your organization or social standings - inferior leaders step aside, corrupt officers and incompetent idiots are unceremoniously given their just desserts as you soar upwards. Eventually, you may well be handed the crown of a great throne with how well you sway others with your words. Enemies and those with greater ambitions will still despise and oppose you - but damned if they can’t help but respect you. This can be toggled on and off, if you’d rather not accidentally cause social upheaval because you REALLY appreciated that breakfast you ate.

Typing charisma perks is fun but also surprisingly difficult. How's this one?
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how do i get as broken as ichigo
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>>52149286
>no
How long does it last?
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>>52147999
The answer is something like the will to fight personified, a pure pacifist like that one Jojo's mom could be killed by a Stands manifestation but mostly it seems to be all cool. It could also be like Pic Related, or so I'm told.
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>>52149366
Stack a whole bunch of those Perks that cause great powers and equipment to fall into your lap. I think the Kamen Rider Jumps have a bunch.
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>>52149366
First you have to use proper punctuation when typing.
Ichigo always uses proper punctuation when typing, it's one of the biggest reasons he got as powerful as he did.
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>>52149359
Oh, I really like that one. Charisma that removes corruption as it elevates you is a neat combo. I like that a lot.
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>>52149296
>Calling him an SBer does everything in the world to delegitimize you
Do yourself a favor and stop talking out of your ass.
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>>52149395
I'm sorry for my incorrect use of grammar.
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>>52149421
Do yourself a favor and stop using anti-dirge bait, it's just as obvious as your anti-red shit at this point.
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>>52149359
>posting Kamen Rider pics
>with DxD
I don't get it.

Also, I don't really like how it's toggleable. I mean, charisma is something you choose to control, and it's not really something that should cause upheavals by saying you like breakfast. Maybe instead of overt toggling, saying that you have to be actively trying to increase your position/cause change?
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>>52149424
I was just joshin' you, anon.
Relax.
Just do what >>52149391 said, that seems like a good idea.
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>>52149459
Heavens also does a lot of Kamen Rider jumps. I think he's just stuck on Rider pic mode.
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>>52149459
Read the filename. Decade is the shitposter. Every shitposter. Ever. I refuse to believe otherwise.

I can see what you mean. I'll rephrase it to reflect that better. Thanks, anon.
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>>52149466
thank you!
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Question, jumpers! What's your mileage on whether your luck perks affect your starting location roll?
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>>52149540
I go with absolutely nothing affecting the contents of a jump document period.
It's the only way to keep things making sense otherwise discount cards give free CP and you could pencil whip bad rolls.
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>>52148922
Sure, why not?

Drop-In + 100 *Stranger danger.
Las Noches * Ghost Mexico? Cool.

Fashion - 0 * I still maintain that nudity is the most fashionable choice.
Super - 100 CP * Fuck Aizen and the dick he rode in on.
Transcendance - 300 * Super Mode fusion? Neat-O.
Sternrritter - 0, The Jumper - 600 * Quincies are bitches, but I'm going full Ichigo here.
Bankai - 300 * Important.
Resureccion - 600 * This, too.
Number 1 - 400 * Yep. Going full fucking Ichigo here.

>Shinigami Powers (1500 PP)
Eleventh Squad * Kenpachi is best captain.
>Shikai
Import - [100]
Bigger - [0]
Longer - [0]
Elementalism (Fire) - [0]
Elementalism (Lightning) - [0]
Empowerment - [0]
>Bankai
Elemental Armor - [000]
What Doesn't Killl Me - [300]
Elemental Enhancement [300]
>Other
Kido - [200]

>Hollow Powers (500 PP)
Biped - [0]
Human - [0]
>Powers
Regen - [0]
Elemental Release - [0]
Marking Target - [0]
>Arrancar Powers
Regen - [0]
Division - [0]
Store Reiryoku
Special (Enhanced power)
>Resurreccion Abilities
Codicia - [0] * Don't think I actually have any power nomming abilities, yet.
Ira - [300]
>Cero
Gran Ray Cero - [200] 200

>Quincy (1000 PP)
Offshoot CAmp
>Bow
Sword - [0]
Revolver - [0]
Physical Weapon - [0]
>Other
Blut - [200]
Pure Blood - [200]
>Sternritter
Strength - [0]
Heat - [300]
Overkiller - [300]

A Way Out - 0
Portal - 0
Tite Clothing - 0
Hell Butterfly - 0

Mod Soul (Gate Creation) - 0
Friends - 400
Sword Chop Shop - 600
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>>52149540
>on whether your luck perks affect your starting location roll?
Do...do you mean how they affect where we are in the location we rolled, or the roll itself? I'm assuming you mean the former, but I'm concerned you mean the latter.
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>>52149540
If it's a shit location and I have a ton of luck perks, I assume I spawn near the border, or at the very least in a less dangerous part of it.
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>>52149486
Okay.

Thanks. And you're welcome.

>>52149540
Nothing obtainable by the jumper can affect anything written in a jump-doc except scenario event text.
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>>52149540
Every time that I have rolled for a starting location, when it's an option, I start in Hell.

Every. Single. Time.

I'm not sure whether my luck perks affect this or not. Does it count as lucky when you're sent to Hell and you have enough purification perks that you can make the demons not be demons anymore?
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>>52149540
I usually just make all my rolls for the jump up front and then put the numbers wherever I want them to be.

Makes things really easy when the age roll is something crazy like 'roll 4d8'.
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Hey, what happened to that Stranger Things jump that was posted a thread or two ago? I can't find it in the Uploads section, and I know it was mostly complete the last time it was posted.
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>>52149439
Go fuck yourself with your "everyone is the same shitposter wahhhh wahhh" bullshit. I'm not sure why you people are still so stupidly attached to a name that shouldn't even be in use, but using it to shit on other people seems to be about the worse use I can think of.

If you're going to mention the name, make a fucking jump. Maybe you'll catch up one day. God knows you people are slow as fuck at even replacing a single one of them despite all your gusto about how bad they are. I've heard enough shit about people harassing others over a namefag, how *absolutely wonderful* that it wasn't an exaggeration.

So stop talking out of your ass. I'm on SB. That's a fact. Get over it and fucking move on already. Or will you not be satisfied until you get your share of dramaposting for the day done and over with?
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>>52149564
Either-or. I'm just curious about it, since from an internal jumper's perspective luck is luck (though if there's a Benefactor doing the rolling I suppose that luck would only make a difference if the Benefactor allowed it...)
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>>52149594
>Mocks people for making everyone into one shitposter
>Speaks as if everyone is acting the same way
Pot, there's someone I'd like you to meet.
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Alright, I'm going to bed soon. I'm one capstone away from finishing background perks, then faction perks, then Sacred Gears and aafgsaparble

Don't get too excited about my scattershot notes right now, anything outside of perks is subject to me changing my mind on. Let me know how this looks so far.

Dragons and Longinus are dead last - I'm making everything else in the jump before I attempt to make anything of that hot mess. So if that goes tits-up for whatever reason, I'll have a mostly-solid jump done already.

Could someone repost this next thread when this one dies? I will likely be out when it happens.
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>>52149617
Yeah, sure, I'll repost it. Also, I missed the Drop In perks the first time around, so I can catch up on them now. Neat.
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>>52149594
Look, man, clearly this is making you mad. You should take a break for awhile, not respond to as many shitposts as you can. Talk over it with someone from SB, I'm sure they'd be willing to listen.
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>>52149617
Looks good so far, Heavens!
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>>52149594
It's hardly appropriate to be giving people shit over not making a replacement when just about everyone that isn't an asshat would rather they weren't.
Which is why they haven't been replaced. Because the only people that say they want that don't actually care.
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>>52148922
Bleach : +1000 (1000)
Age (26) : Free
Gender (Female) : Free
Origin (Soul Reaper) : -200 (800)
Location (Urahara's Shop) : Free
Fancy Swordplay : Free
Fated Encounter : -100 (700)
Reiryoku : -200 (500)
Bankai : -300 (200)
Number 1 : -400 (-200)
Themed Gear : Free
Shinigami Friends : -200 (-400)
Other Friends (6) : -150 (-600)
Mysterious Blueprint Q : -800
Canon Companion (Orhime) : -300 (-1100)
Ten More Years : +100 (-1000)
World Tournament : +1000 (000)

Weapons
-Zanpakuto : +1000 (1000)
-Second Division : Free
-Katana : Free
-Bigger : Free
-Longer : Free
-Cloth Hilt: Free
-Sentries : -100 (900)
-Elementalism (Water)
-Elementalism (Ice)
-Elementalism (Sound)
-Projectile : -200 (700)
-Bankai : +500 (1200)
-Arena : Free
-Energy Cloak : -300 (900)
-Elemental Armor : -300 (600)
-Elemental Enhancement : -300 (300)
-Sword Spirit : -300 (000)

Companions
2 Shinigami
2 Quincy
2 Fullbringers
1 Drop In
1 Bount

Fuck actually making builds for my companions, I'm going to bed.
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>>52149560
GHQ - 0
Ten More Years + 100
Companion + 200 * Everybody's gonna hate me anyway.
As According To Keikaku + 600
No Free Time + Endless fightin'? Zog me, sounds fun! + 400
Plot-Bound + 400 * Not sure how this'll work exactly, seeing as they're like 5 when I show up. Guess they're my Yachirus? ...Do I need to keep the little shits alive or can I just rez them when they die?
Nah way, Yhawach + 1000 * Fuck Mutton-Chop Jesus and his nazi buddies in particular.

Well. I spent a ton of time and CP on this build.


Anyway. Guess I'm going to have to go backwards, fighting the final boss first while Aizen prepares for me. You know what? Fuck it, I'm going balls-deep and running a gauntlet through the Sternritters, becoming more powerful with each one I kill and then kicking magic L'Oreal Hitler in the nuts. Then I'm going to shove a Hogyoku up Aizen's bishie ass so he can get his fucking Keikaku out of the way. All the while the kiddie-MCs are riding on my companions' shoulders right through the apocalypse.

And then I'm going to conquer Soul Society by raising an army of souls from the outer walls. I'll do so with promises of better (after)living conditions.

And that we'll build a wall. And make ghost Mexico pay for it.
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>>52149584
Was it finished?
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>>52149286
What are the pros and cons of severing your chain as a Drop In?
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>>52149594
I DIDN'T mention his name. The guy replying to me did, and called him an SBer. From there I simply told him it was obvious he was shitposting then, because only the shitposter does that.
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>>52149722
It looked that way to me. It was mostly complete when he first posted it, and then he added some fluff to it to finish it off. Seemed done to me.
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>>52149584

Hi! Sorry, I was away for most of today, but I just finished making some edits to fix stuff (most importantly lack of biokinesis clarity)

Should I upload it at this point?
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>>52149709
>While you can see through it’s eyes and hear through it’s ears, you do not have perfect control over it, and it’s intelligence is lacking.
Do you have any control or influence over it? What kind of control? Verbal commands? Telepathy? Does it have at least animalistic intelligence? Could I reliably send it out to collect information for me?
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>>52149667
Oh no, getting accused of telling a guy to fuck off because he's decided to partake in shitposting using me as fuel isn't much of an issue. That part won't ever change knowing this place. I came here trying to figure out why some guy got apparently harassed for asking a question about RO and FF14 and came across this instead. Needless to say it explained things pretty well.

>>52149692
Oh I don't think you want to talk to me about appropriate. In the face of some of you folks I'm literally Satan because I don't give a fuck about conforming to your standards. Pretty safe to say I managed to secure myself a place besides DDkun with one move.

>>52149735
I've said it at least three times in the past. It's dramaposting. I have never bothered to tag my jumps. I have no trip. I'm not sure what you think you're winning by arguing with a shitposter who decides to use the name.
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>>52149286
It has to be done
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>>52149810
Right now I'm merely clearing up a misconception you seemed to have about my post. That is all.
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>>52149809
...What?
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>>52149810
Whatever gave you that idea was wrong. There's an asshole who realized he can get guaranteed replies by shitposting about you and your jumps, or calling those jumps shitposting, or really anything involving drives and drama. You aren't literally satan in anyones eyes.
It's all manufactured outrage to get people to stop having fun.
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>>52149810
For fucks sake, just go away already. Why are you here? You've said again and again that you don't care for this place so why in god's name are you here?
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>>52149810
>I came here trying to figure out why some guy got apparently harassed for asking a question about RO and FF14
That was like two days ago, someone was shitposting and said NUH UH YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT THOSE THEY'RE BANNED, he got called retarded and everyone immediately moved on and didn't talk about the weak bait further.
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>>52149617
>tits-up
Is this a hint that we will meet the fabled god?
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>>52149272
What jumps has Heaven's done that are lewd?
I mean not just based off of shows and IPs with stacks of fan service, I mean actually lewd?

I need to know for... research purposes
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>>52149852
Can't bask in your victory if he continues to post, huh?
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>>52149810
Honestly feels like you start more drama then anything else now, since everytime you come back you start some argument with others, above and beyond the common shitposting that goes on.
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>>52149862
He's shitposting, stupid.
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>>52149843
>200 cp - Me And My Shadow
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>>52149862
None. It's just some asshole trying to drive Heavens off.
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>>52149783
Looks good to me, should be ready to upload. Oh, also, since your jump is what got me to watch the show, thought that I would first of all thank you, since it's really good, and then share some thoughts on it. So, thank you, and here are my thoughts:

>I want to protect Eleven and Mike's smiles
>I want to punch Dr. Brenner into low orbit, because he's a fucking dick
>I want to save Barbra, because she didn't deserve what happened to her
>I want to reunite Eleven/Jane and her mom, and then heal the mom's mind, because again, Dr. Brenner is a dick
>Finally, I want to both smack Hopper and give him a hug, because I sympathise with him, and I respect him, but I'm also pissed about what he did at the end of the series, even if he does regret it
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>>52149810
There is a guy who cannot stop shitposting about anything having to do with you and anything having to do with anything having to do with you.

It has gotten people so reactionary that even saying your name or location is potentially him shitposting.
Congratulations you are finally Red tier.
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>>52149617
Good luck Heavens!
Do your best!
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>>52149871
Oh.

Short version, it's about as smart as your pre-jumper self, before all the intelligence boosting perks you presumably have.

It doesn't come with telepathy by default, but by dint of literally being you, it should understand what you want.
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>>52149867
He also enjoys painting everybody as an asshole when he even knows SPECIFICALLY it's a select group.
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>>52149867
We don't talk about him except to shitpost and dramapost, so why do you think you're going to get him to show up for anything besides those two? He's not going to ever post jumps up here because people have decided he's only good for shitposting on, so you won't get jump discussion either, and even when he did post jumps up, no one discusses them anyways.

He's said it himself, he's gone for all intents and purposes. Just for some reason he still ends up biting shitpost bait like that guy that got shit on for using the FFXIV jump and it draws him back.
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>>52149908
Oh, wow. Nice. The way it's described makes it seem like little more than a beast. Thanks.
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>>52149951
>/jc/ can't decide for itself what to do between shitting on the jumps, replacing the jumps, or just trying to get people to ignore the jumps.

Kek.
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>>52149862
Who's that in your pic?
She's adorable, but kinda gross and not at all bright.
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>>52149999
It's a cicada.
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>>52149999
>>52150006
It's a dragon maid.
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>>52150006
...You're joking, right? I think anon's referring to the one with the horns.
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>>52149941
Once a jumpmaker leaves, they're officially open game for shitting on. It's not like Dirge is the only one that gets subjected to this. Look at Wakfu, the only time his name comes up is when people decide to shit on his jumpmaking skills. I don't get why you think this is called being an asshole. This is just normal 4chan.
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>>52149999
The dragon loli from the dragon meidos show

Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid
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>>52149874
You're not gonna go 9 rounds in the ring with Demigorgon?
You're not even gonna chokeslam it? Arm bar? Suplex? Elbow Drop? Powerbomb? Tombstone Piledriver? Hit it with a chair?
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>>52150012
Perhaps. But that is definitely a cicada perched on the tree there.
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77. 007
Bond: Roger Moore
Origin: MI5 Support, Age: 23
Perks: Technical Training, Fieldcraft, Gadget Master, Universal Exports, Oh James!
Items: Tuxedo, Disguise Kit, Super Watch

As an MI5 agent, I am only supposed to be operating inside the United Kingdom, so I guess I will. No exotic locales full of exotic women, but I can hang out with the local antifa and get in on the IRA poker games and help protect the Queen or something. Maybe even meet some bonny lad and get him to roll on his compatriots.

So, accompanying James Bond on his missions is a major relief and a great vacation. Sure, there are more bullets and lava pits than is usual for me, but those are features, not bugs. I'm actually happier that I get to pal around with one of the sillier Bonds while swilling gin and showing up every 30 minutes to save his ass from being captured.

Also, I have nice wristwatch now. Wristwatches are very important.
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>>52150019
>implying they aren't considered open game for shitting on when they first post a jump or use a name
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>>52150019
A better example would be Babylon. I can't think of a time in the last 400 threads where he wasn't brought up to be shit on.
Wakfu still gets talked about in a neutral manner occasionaly.
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>>52150038
What's this Demigorgon you speak of? And why does it deserve that?
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>>52150056
Babylon dindonuffin
His jumps were the product of his time
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>>52150070
Only person other then Babylon who stole from another person's work that I remember was Tsukihime anon.
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>>52150067
The monster from another dimension that's eating people. The kids call it that because Eleven isn't good with spoken language, so when conveying the concept of what took Will she points to a D&D figure the kids have there in the basement. As for why it deserves it, I think the "eating people" part makes it self-explanatory.
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>>52150056
The last few times I've seen Wakfu brought up, I'm fairly sure I heard a faint, repeated slapping noise... He's usually not naturally invoked in a conversation.
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>>52150067
Oh shit, you haven't seen the series, my bad.
It's the monster that lives in the parallel universe known as the Upside Down.
After 11 accidentally caught it's attention on one of her psychic missions, it started coming into our universe, looking for prey. It's an asshole.
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>>52150083
I'm not aware of that story.

I thought he left because SB tried to remake Babylon Jump and wouldn't talk to him about it, so fuck everyone.
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>>52150054
>implying they aren't considered open game for shitting on when they type a word into the textbox.
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>>52150038
>Implying the Demigorgon will last 9 rounds
I'm going to introduce it and the rest of the Upside Down to the concept of Kamen Riders and RIDER KICKS.

>>52150067
A monster from a parallel dimension that managed to enter our world after an experiment went wrong and Eleven, a young psychic girl, managed to attract its' attention. It's taken to hunting and killing humans, then eating them. It's not alone either, there are other monsters that are coming in Season 2.
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>>52150070
at the end of the day it's more fun shitting on a jumpmaker and knowing that you beat them no matter what they've made. defending a jumpmaker doesn't have that same satisfaction to it.
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>>52150088
The Bravely Default conversation didn't go turn into a shitfest.
It could have, but it didn't. Although I understand what you're getting at. There is very little reason to bring up a namefag that doesn't even come here anymore.
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>>52150104
He's left because of multiple reasons.
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>>52150110
>>Implying the Demigorgon will last 9 rounds
You're not going easy on it? Not even for funny home video nights later?
It's gonna die either way, make enjoyable for others to see.
>OH! That can't be legal! SOMEBODY GET THE REF!
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>>52149783
Is there a maximum durability that Out of Phase works on? Does it take any longer to "warp" tougher barriers? Does it work on living things?
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>>52150121
they're talking about when people talk about the jumpmaker specifically, like people talking about Babylon plagiarizing or Dirge being a dramafag. Dirge is just flavor of the month because he still makes jumps for a different community and it's easy to shitpost with his name. It's hard to shit on Babylon when everyone agrees he plagiarized shit.
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>>52150137
Nah, I'm trying to send a message. These things seem to have animal-level intelligence, and I figure if I kill enough of them and show the rest they don't stand a chance, they'll decide that humans aren't really worth it. It's kind of like how some predators tend to avoid people, because they know that fucking with them is just going to get hunters chasing after them. As much fun as it would be to do something like that, the season 2 trailer showed off a god damn spider kaiju entering the real world, with the tagline "The world is turning Upside Down." Fucking around here will put too many innocents in danger.
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>>52149874

Uploaded the jump to the dribe.

I'm glad you enjoyed the series!

I'm pretty sure Barb is dead, since Will was exposed to the weird alien parasite junk for a much shorter duration, and he just barely made it out. On the bright side, Brenner is most likely dead as well, considering he got jumped by the Demogorgon.
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>>52150286
Nice, glad to hear it.

Yeah, I figured. Eleven herself said she was "gone" in episode seven. Just seemed like a horrible way to die for a good person like Bard. Honestly, it seems rather fitting that Brenner be killed by the monster he helped unleash on the world. Too bad he wasn't exposed for the monster he really was first.
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>>52150340
Barb, blegh. Autocorrect, I swear...
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>>52150169

It can't affect creatures, only barriers. As long as it's less than a foot thick, it takes the same amount of time to get through (comparable to the amount of time it takes the Demogorgon to do this in the show).
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>>52150340

I was sad about that too. What really got me was Benny getting killed. He was just a simple guy trying to help! And they say he was looking forward to a fishing trip later too, which makes it even worse somehow.
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>>52150386
Yeah, Benny's death made me sad as well, especially since you could tell that he really was a good person, and that he genuinely cared and was concerned for Eleven. He's probably the first person to ever treat her with genuine kindness, and he gets killed off just like that, right in front of her eyes. He's another person I plan on saving once I reach this setting in my chain.
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>>52150187
I'm pretty sure that creature is still in the Upside Down itself. It was Will looking at it, and he's still got Upside Down parasites in him, that lets him see into it. The framing of the shot looked like an ominous "things to come" vision, rather than the giant ganglion-spider-thing attacking, so it's probably something that might enter our world but hasn't yet.
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>>52150504
You think he'll keep any of that ability once the parasites are all gone?
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>>52150546
Maybe? I don't know. Definitely going to be a plot point, though.
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Oi, Reborn.

>Cero Powers: Free for a basic red normal damage Cero. Multiple purchases of the same item receive a 50% discount, capping at 50pp.

Is that last part not suppose to be there? Because it makes no sense. Also, if you sacrifice health for Sacrifice Ressurecion ability. Does that negate regeneration? Also "increase battle prowess" is pretty vague.

I also would like to ask if you could fix some the formatting. You got large spaces in places and stuff crammed together in other places.
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>>52150504
That's also a possibility, admittedly. I'm not sure, myself. The red light could be an indication of it being a vision, or of the Upside Down beginning to devour our world like the science teacher was talking about.

>>52150546
I think it depends on if they mutate him or not. If it's just the parasites, he'll probably lose the ability once they all leave his body. If not, then he might have it for good, which won't do wonders for his sanity...
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Heading to NWN and remembering last time it was discussed I have a question to ask, why is Elanee considered such a shit?
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>>52150845
Creepy stalker elf who's been watching you since you were a kid.
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>>52150857
That is certainly weird but is there anything else that would make someone interested in a druid companion avoid her?
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>>52149286
>Gate and Portal
Is each gate one-way or two-way (or choosable)? Is the traversal like stepping through a window or passing through a tunnel (or choosable)? IOW what can we fanwank?

>Section of the Soul Society. Need an afterlife? No problem, you can create an afterlife into a setting, and have it follow you to future jumps as well. No, they do not gain any Bleach powers while in here silly.
Can we set like the basic rules/environment of the afterlife? If there's already an afterlife, what determines which afterlife people end up in? Or is the answer to everything basically "fanwank something reasonable"?
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>>52150286
Thanks for the jump.
Don't suppose there's a selectable text version or a text-only version floating around?
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>>52148644
It's a tiny technicalitity, but Shaman's eyes should probably be a boost to inductive reasoning, not deductive, seeing as it's about combining lots of observed details to infer information about the greater whole.
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Hey, if you have more than one Exaltation Do the essence pools stack?
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>>52151250
No. Exaltations don't give you your Essence pool, they just unlock it.
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>>52151250
Until an exalted jump author comes along, the answer lies somewhere between 'fanwank it' and 'no'.
I seem to recall that each Exalted respires essence differently. This is especially pronounced between Abyssals and other types, Abyssals having necrotic essence or something, but is also related to the reason that each of the magical materials resonates with different types of Exalted - jade for dragonblooded, orichalcum for solars, moonsilver for lunars etc.

So if you're a 2-Essence Sidereal and 5-Essence Infernal, you can fire off way less Sidereal charms than Infernal charms, and can't burn your Infernal motes to fuel Sidereal martial arts once you're empty.
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>>52151334
You're remembering wrong. For the most part, Essence is Essence. Some types of Essence are more efficient at fueling certain effects, and it's possible to intentionally build something that only one type of Essence can fuel, but otherwise any effect can be fueled by anyone's Essence. Necrotic Essence is the exception, not the rule. If they could acquire them, an Infernal could use Sidereal Martial Arts just fine. They can't acquire them, but that's just because Sidereals themselves and the Mary Sues that are Solars get to use SMA.
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>>52151290
>>52151250
>>52151334
>>52151356
okay, that looks like a negative. Thank you for clearing that up. did I phrase things wrong? I'm talking about how many motes not how Exalted you are.
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>>52151376
No, I get it, I just think you'd default to whichever Essence pool was largest.
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>>52151388
fair enough, thank you.
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>>52150857
>Cute Elf watching over you.
>Watches you grow up
>Husbandos you
>Dies in expansion due to developers wanting new love interests

Sad.
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>>52151356
I think the lore explaination about Infernals being unable to learn SMAs has something to do with the Yozi Excellencies Infernals use being too bound up in being one concept (i.e. one of the Yozis) to reach out and emulate things like being a spider, or an obsidian mirror, or a contagion through martial arts. Unless I'm confusing it with the devs saying they don't think Yozis can learn martial arts, although their 3CDs can. Either way, that's one going Devil-Tiger's for. Potentially.

And I KNOW, RIGHT? It's like /tg/'s meme Ultramarines, except if most of the devs pretty much confirmed this was both canon and intentional.

>>52150873
I just looked her up and apparently she, along with her faction, initially believe fighting the BBEG (who's this guardian entity forced to subsist on dark magic after a temporary mana shortage) isn't right because he's a part of the natural cycle? And you can only get her to stick with you if you're a good guy and also her friend.

Dunno if that's a dealbreaker.
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>>52150286
Seconding this: >>52151204
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>>52151402
>>A jumper not being able to cure death.
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>>52151411
>if you're a good guy
Pretty sure that's a dealbreaker for like 90% of the jumpers in this thread.
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>>52151411
No, you've got the lore right. But it doesn't change the fact that Solars getting SMA is bullshit. You've already got the strongest charms and sorcery, let the Sidereals have their fucking martial arts specialty. At least they left shapeshifting to the Lunars, even if it's the only notable thing Lunars have.
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>>52151402
I think people only dislike her because she was the only love interest for male PCs and they wanted Neeshka. This, while a sign of good taste, is sad for the cute elf.
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>>52151433
It would be, but most jumpers are also epic level memetic bards which allows them to waifu literally anyone and anything regardless of normal requirements.
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>>52151424
You make an excellent point.

So what WOULD a mid-tier jumper be unable to do, I wonder?
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>>52151424
Wasn't talking about Jumper, but about the Protag in NWN2. She's only waifu option, then in Mask of the Betrayer she's crushed by rocks. Instead you get an ugly bald chick for waifu option. While females get bishonenesque hagspawn.
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>>52151250
I think the current consensus from Mardukth is that Peripheral essence pools stack but not internal.
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>>52151481
depends on the build
>>52151488
Fair enough
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>>52151488
>Instead you get an ugly bald chick for waifu option.
Safiya is no Neeshka but she is still a cute!
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>>52151433
Eh, call it 65%. It's D&D good, which I'm told is kinda screwy in places (but not as bad as, say, Exalted's Virtues-actual virtue not included). So a lot more of the amoral-but-selectively-spiteful crowd might get a pass if they're not the elfhunting kind.

Man, sometimes I miss writing an unambiguously evil bastard instead of an ambiguously judgemental one.

>>52151434
Agreed. Even worse apparently it takes just 1 higher essence charm for them to start picking up the unique charms Abyssals and Infernals have.

Lunars just seem like this trove of wasted potential. The wyld control stuff is interesting. The charms that let themshapeshift into geography and demons is interesting. The problem is the charmset that revolves around their battle form kind of shapeshifting they have is apparently inferior to Devil-Tyrant Avatar Shintai, a single Infernal charm belonging to a Yozi who isn't even famous for being a shapeshifter.

>>52151509
What is that thing on her shoulder and where can I get one?
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>>52151532
>The problem is the charmset that revolves around their battle form kind of shapeshifting they have is apparently inferior to Devil-Tyrant Avatar Shintai, a single Infernal charm belonging to a Yozi who isn't even famous for being a shapeshifter.
And their charmset for disguising themselves as other people is inferior to an Alchemical charm, of all things. When the guys who are embodiments of perfect mechanical order are better at being fluid shapeshifters than you are, you are doing a bad job.
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>>52151532
That is her homunculus, a possible familiar for arcane casters.
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>>52151545
...I'm sorry, WHAT. I know Lunars suck and all, but that's a whole new level of suck. For goodness' sake, Alchemicals ARE ALCHEMICAL MEGAMEN THAT EVENTUALLY TURN INTO GIANT CITIES. I can kinda understand Ebby's shadow masks beating them out, but what the fuck. Which charms versus which charms? How.

If it's the Tell thing, can't they just...I don't know. Wear a scarf over it or something?

I'm looking at some alchemicals RIGHT NOW and they all look like robots and golems.
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Well apparently there are alchemicals with tits, I did not expect that from sentient robots.
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>>52151579
It's three charms, two branching from the first. Integrated Artifact Transmografier allows the Alchemical to hide that they're a big stompy robot man and look like a normal person. It also turns their cybernetic charms into internal Essence manipulation effects, with the exception of those that are obviously cybernetic like growing a buzzsaw arm. It also has submodules to disguise their Essence and weave false roles in the Loom of Fate or whatever other destiny-tracking system they're in.

Then you get two upgrades branching off of it. Trans-Chosen Emulator lets them change what type of Exalted they appear to be. Pretty standard stuff for a disguise. And then there's Husk-Sculpting Apparatus, which is freeform appearance modification. Any human or human-like form, an Alchemical with it can adopt. Can be penetrated by Essence sight, but there's a submodule to remove that weakness. Throw in Manifold Transhuman Implants so they can acquire mutation points, and they can shapeshift into inhuman forms, too.

All together, and it's a much simpler and easier to deal with package of shapeshifting effect than what Lunars deal with. No Tell, no Heart's Blood, easier disguising as other types of being... it's a lot better mechanics.

>>52151635
Some of them are sexbots. No, really, Thousandfold Courtesan Calculations is a charm just for being great at sex.
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>>52151579
>>52151647
>EVENTUALLY TURN INTO GIANT CITIES
>Some of them are sexbots.
Wut?
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>>52151670
As they grow, the charms become individual districts in their city-body. Like, an armor charm might turn into walls, or a healing charm might become a hospital. Presumably, Thousandfold Courtesan Calculations becomes the red light district.
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>>52151670
Exalted bro. Just. Exalted.

Though now that technically means that those sexbot cities could become massive red-light districts or a more debauched version of Las Vegas.
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>>52151682
So every exalt that learns it will at least partially become just like the Demonic loli whore version of Sol Invictus.
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>>52151706
Most Exalted don't really learn Alchemical Charms, other than Alchemicals and Charm Stealing Exalted. They're kind of installed onto Alchemicals in general, this doesn't really matter to the Charm stealing Exalted as far as I understand the game but take that as you will.
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>>52151706
Only if they want to. Alchemicals can swap charms in and out, they're unique among Exalted types in that they don't have fixed charm sets. It gets harder the larger they are given that it's hard to work with modular parts the size of buildings, but there's nothing stopping a Starmetal Caste who had a Thousandfold installed for the sake of using honey traps in her espionage missions getting embarrassed of that when she grows older and deciding she doesn't want it in her city form.
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