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Pathfinder General /pfg/

Crippled Edition
Do you think various disabilities can be interesting addition to a character? Everyone wants to play a blind swordsman once in a while! What about addictions, phobias and other weaknesses? Are they only for cheesing out builds with free stuff you get for taking them?

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/hAfKSnWW

Avowed Playtest 1: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5HkyGRtGZy3SWVhdWFBWERWWjg
Avowed Playtest 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rV7kaF9JL2gw9xQalkEnlEDL9WXtbsaCqNABm_pLIgc/edit?usp=sharing

Spheres of Might previews:
Part 1: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aLaYQEFAWU4zQBx58boJPPaySLgJc0Emmw9eKyIJeGI/
Part 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pyLq03W2ju58PcKOUq5YXoFowf_weBNzuWtjCMdINXk/edit
Part 3: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-LAt9Ti5pcnvHY4KnFRuItCjqtGM-YJC5r_0zXiKKUk/edit
PS: Outdated, playtest should be out next week but that's not a promise.

Bloodforge Infusions updated playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GvwMclLSw15slYI7D5xLdjMzr-Nau92hNha9Sx0LOk4/edit#

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>>52145484
>Do you think various disabilities can be interesting addition to a character?

I once played a character who was basically bacon.
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>>52145484
Unfortunately no, Pathfinder is not conducive to people with disabilities also being cool, which is hilarious given how social-justicey the writers are.
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>>52145484
Yeah that's cool and all, but the first real fight she gets involved in is gonna end with her either dead or a breeding sow, depending on how lewd the game/story wants to get.
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>>52145537
>>52145484
mmmmmmm, bacon
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>>52145484
Pathfinder games currently recruiting:

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/70727/romance-of-the-righteous-kingdoms
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/71538/hells-rebels-literally-cant-even-edition
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/70552/shardwalkers
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/71197/spheres-of-might-unofficial-playtest-the-harrowing-modified
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/71590/puella-librum-daemonium
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/71015/a-generic-pathfinder-adventure-title
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/71521/the-great-bamboozling
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67969/the-celestial-tournament
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67687/the-sultanas-hot-slave-harem
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/69210/taldor-ascendant
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>>52145484
I want to play a mute Magus, but it would probably just get me killed.
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>>52145484
Oh man, do I have a relevant video for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9891vPGisw
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>>52145484
Yeah, I've made a few. Both kineticist iconics for LG, actually.
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>>52145582
I was actually considering this very picture as an alternative for what ultimately landed in the OP. Good taste.

>>52145559
She is able to swing that humongous slab of iron around, give her some credit. Not everyone wants to indulge you in your rape fantasies.
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>>52145582
>>52145537

What happens when a bacon man and a bacon woman have babby?
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>>52145584
Man, this is the shit we have left after Dragons and ROTJR...
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>>52145484
I want to play a one-armed einhander character at some point! Too bad the system basically tells me to go fuck myself because after a few levels I can straight up grow the arm back to perfect condition no matter how long it'd been!
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>>52145602
>the stretcher for the crutch
fucking kek
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>>52145629
>both kineticist iconics for LG are cripples

fitting, really
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>>52145484
Currently playing an opium addict Arcanist with a bum leg. They were originally going to have only one leg but I didn't want to drag the party down too much.
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>>52145644
>I want to play a one-armed einhander character at some point!

Magic is unreliable and very scary for matters of re-growing your arm!

Grab Scarlet Throne Style and focus in Scarlet Einhander!
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>>52145632
The child is normal, but at one point she'll ask when she'll get her cool markings like mommy and daddy have!
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>>52145537
Hanako is CUTE.

>>52145559
Doesn't work that way. A blind guy with a katana, especially if he's also cueball, is going to be a thousand times better as a swordsman than someone who can see.
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how do i go about playing a space marine terminator type character, but with just the pathfinder firearms and weaponry?
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>>52145740

Barbarian (Savage Technologist.)
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>>52145740
Be as obnoxious as possible and a murderhobo to anything that isn't human, including other party members because you have to purge xenos.
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>>52145584
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/71590/puella-librum-daemonium
Red pill me on this one, guys.

Isn't this the setting where all the female PCs are destined to get raped by hot monster dick?
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>>52145747
>>52145750
sorry i meant like a slow moving colossus that shoots at things before they can get too close and if they do, i've got a nice melee weapon to make em regret it
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>>52145764

And all the male PCs are destined to get raped by tight monster-girl pussy.
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>>52145699
Yes, but then I have to deal with
>A, finding a group willing to let me play a character with one arm
>B, finding a group that actually uses PoW
>C, finding actual rules for that, since the only one I know of is "pick one major drawback, get a feat in return", which I'm pretty sure will just get me called a "powergaming fuck".
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>>52145772
But what if you play a monstergirl
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>>52145740
Alternatively, go Paladin and go full Lawful Stupid, preferably with Oath of Vengeance for as many Smites as physically possible.
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>>52145767
Juggernaut Barbarian, I think it's called, from Horror Adventures; you're an emotionless, unstoppable monster that can fly into overdrive at the drop of a hat with almost no penalties.
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>>52145764
IMPORTANT BACKSTORY RULES
1) You MUST have encountered a tome manifesting for some reason
2) You MUST be a Nightwalker
3) You MUST be from somewhere OTHER than the Wester Fief of King Luthor. Where ever that is, you get to fluff it to an extent. If you can't match the tone of the setting, that's a big strike against you.
4) I need to be able to figure out whether you're leaning towards monster action, monster girl action, or dick ass nobility action, because I'm going to try to create a variety, cover all bases/genders/desires/etc.
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>>52145767

Barbarian (Savage Technologist.)

Or maybe GUN TANK.

>>52145776

Half of the games recruiting for /pfg/ would allow all of those things. Hell, I'd say half of them would even give you the free feat for that major drawback.
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>>52145783
PCs can only be Not!Humans because otherwise it fucks up the GM's plan for them to get raped
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>>52145783
you're not allowed to play a character who doesn't get raped
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>>52145644
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>>52145584
yup, here, lemme run down the whole list for ya:

>>52145584
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/70727/romance-of-the-righteous-kingdoms
>Shit
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/71538/hells-rebels-literally-cant-even-edition
>Hipster Shit
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/70552/shardwalkers
>What the fuck even is this shit
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/71197/spheres-of-might-unofficial-playtest-the-harrowing-modified
>Playtesting Shit
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/71590/puella-librum-daemonium
>Rape
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/71015/a-generic-pathfinder-adventure-title
>GM is a shit
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/71521/the-great-bamboozling
>Best campaign bar none
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67969/the-celestial-tournament
>Popularity Contest Shit
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67687/the-sultanas-hot-slave-harem
>literally haremshit
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/69210/taldor-ascendant
>shit
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>>52145776
>pick one major drawback, get a feat in return

I'd allow it, but regen would be out the window.
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>>52145783
Players are destined to get creampied and turned into monstergirls

But still have to fight against it for the good of humanity!

>>52145803
Players are not!humans because of transformation shenanigans

>>52145809
>apply to lewd game
>with no intention of lewding
>expect to get in
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>>52145776

MAKE HER FOR CELESTIAL TOURNAMENT!

BECOME LEGEND!
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>>52145797
Guntank?
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>>52145816
fuck, first quote meant for >>52145764
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Alrighty almighty, brightly and knightly, how are y'all doing on this fine day? I hope you're doing well, because I'm feeling pretty well myself.

For those interested in it- what do you think about the Blood Mountain game info moving over to a Google Site? I'm not keen on creating a massive directory of stuff on Google Docs when it would be easier to just make a big ole' google site for it. It would take a while to set up, but I'd be happy to share it with y'all and make it much easier to navigate.

Any thoughts?
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>>52145809
>>52145803
>>52145827
Yeah but what if one of the PCs is alpha and captured a slavegirl?
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>>52145842

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/gunslinger/archetypes/paizo-gunslinger-archetypes/gun-tank/

GUN TANK
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>>52145776
Of course, I'm also considering Iron Gods so cybernetic limb would probly be on the table eventually.

Broke?
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>>52145529
So, in regards to the church, what exactly would an engineer PC be? I'd actually read up on a bunch of the shinto stuff (I won't pretend I also didn't spend 2 hours looking through the efficiency reports on lead vs sodium reactors) but would that be rare knowledge they want, or something they dread being spread, or just an out-of-context problem (as many PCs often are in one way or another)?
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>>52145590
You could use Spheres
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>Martial Training I
>Your martial initiator level maneuvers granted by this feat (and subsequent Martial Training feats) is equal to half your character level + your attribute modifier that modifies your chosen discipline for use with this discipline (example, Dexterity for a discipline that uses Acrobatics), not to exceed your character level.
What does "martial initiator level maneuvers" mean in this regard?
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>>52145484

One of the players in my group plays a middle-aged Crusader Cleric with only one hand. He can still strap a shield to the arm, but he can't use two-handed weapons, and he takes a penalty to skill checks that require both hands.

I actually quite like the character, and the disability lends to some amusing roleplay moments.
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>>52145862
... I'm pretty sure the federation guntank wasn't quite THAT shitty.

Wow that's bad.
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>>52145797
>>52145823
>>52145872
Well now I just feel silly, because the last time I asked anybody about it they told me to fuck off.

>cybernetics would be on the table eventually
It'd probably be better than just "lolregenerate", especially if I can just BS out a reason why the arm can't be recovered "normally".

>>52145832
>make her for celestial tournament
>"her"
>playing a PvP game

That doesn't sound fun at all. I prefer playing dudes.
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xth for autistic manhunts based off of unverifiable comments
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>>52145907
Extremely cancerous radiation damage?
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>>52145907

Okay, fine! FINE! I'll make it.
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>>52145924
nah he can keep it simple: magic curse laid upon him by X rival after he lost the arm, nothing can regrow it until X is kill
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>>52145878
If you're an engineer, you probably:

Have a bit of tech that you know the ins and outs of
Have the knowledge to replicate that tech, or at least get it to working order, as if you were an artisan/craftsman.

Like, if you're doing Youkai Engineer, you're a DaVinci of the times - you know your shit - save that you have access to old relics of super advanced tech. You wouldn't be a modern engineer type.
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>>52145884

It's a typo.

It means to say "Your martial-initiator level for maneuvers granted by this feat..." they left out the word 'for'.

Does that make things more clear?
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>>52145939
So, basically, shit most people can't wrap their heads around and the general scientific and technological level has fallen too low to be able to reproduce even when they follow your plans?
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>>52145973
Yes, thank you.
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>>52145939
>It's a tank
>A what?
>A tank. A flying armored vehicle with siege weapons that can be controlled by two or maybe three people
>That doesn't make any sense. How can siege weapons even be controlled. This is just some bullshit sketch.

>....Wait what?
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>>52145979
More or less, that's a good way of seeing it, with an added caveat that the character doesn't fully grasp what's going on/how it works as much as they understand the principles of making the machinery work.
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>>52146028
Or rather:

They know HOW it functions
They don't know WHY it functions.
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>>52145907
>One-handed Bandit

Does sci-fan remotely interest thee?
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>>52146068
Kkkkinda? Why?
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>The tome must either be burned, the monster killed, or the tome recovered by a merchant
>or the tome recovered by a merchant
>merchant

So what he's saying is that Merchants are our greatest ally?
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>>52146028
>>52146042
So... in other words, no formal schooling exists on these subjects anymore, so it's all been hands-on since childhood.
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>>52146075
Cuz I'm that fag trying to do IG and I like the concept.
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>>52146142
Precisely.
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>>52146129

Of course. Merchants get money, and you know what they say about money.

It makes you poor or makes you rich.
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>>52146152
And being 3.5>>PF, required ranks whenever they're listed are at -3 (so 8 becomes 5, and so on) correct?

I think the concept's coming together nicely now.
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>>52146177
This is trufacts, yes.
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>>52145986

Glad to be of help, anon.
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>>52146189
One last question then before I get some serious work done; Vigilante Talents in the fake-gestalt points, those are without a specialization, correct?
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Alright.

What would make the perfect rape-bait character for Puella Librum Daemonium?
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>>52146235
My latin is rusty. Is that Demon Pussy Book?
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>>52146235
anything with a hole
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Review Anon, I call upon your power! Review the Hell's Rebels applications please!
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>>52146233
That is correct.
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>>52146264
Don't rape a donut anon.
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>>52146235
>What would make the perfect rape-bait character for Puella Librum Daemonium?

Busty, blonde lady-knight saving her virginity for the fiance back home. She's got wide, baby-making hips and has powerful (yet dormant) mothering instincts.
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>>52146235
A blonde foreign-exchange schoolgirl that's somehow despite that from a family of sex ninjas and is deeply in love with a slightly older guy she's always also called her big brother.
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>>52146275
Cheerio? Pin-prick cucks.
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>>52146275
that isn't going to stop me
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>>52146275
why didn't you tell me
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>>52146261
"Little Girl Demon Book"
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>>52146235
>Interested in the theme but not in the rape
Hrm.
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>>52146278
>That pic
What the shit is up with that wind? if it was strong enough to do that to her hair and cloak, there's no way she'd be able to read that paper.

This upsets me greatly for some unfathomable reason.
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>>52146129
He means the ones that spread them around, the pallid creepers that you're hunting.

Think Happy Mask Salesman
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>>52146355
Clearly the wind is coming FROM the paper.
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>>52146355

It's Ghibli wind, she's reading a letter from her beloved talking about the dozen children they're going to have together in that lovely cottage by the babbling brook where they fell in love.
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>>52146341
>tfw would play for the rape but not the theme
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>>52146355
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>>52146129
I don't know much about the bloodborne aspects but as far as the berserk side of the setting related ramblings tomes are essentially !behelits that some fucking wizards are handing out to see how well they work.
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>Puella GM tells players to make up setting information to prove they're not shitters
>People are asking him to hold their hands on making setting information
More DMs should do this, or at least something similar. Really points out the idiots.
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/pfg/ how would you stat a thylacoleo? I want to make a primal drop-bear riding cavalier.
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So, have a lv6, soon to be 7 Vanguard Slayer.

Have been leaning toward dipping 2 levels of Eldritch Archer Magus, to pick up an extra attack per round, and some minor magic damage.

Lv7 is firmly committed to Slayer, to get study at swift. Potentially up through Lv12-13 to finish up my Archery feats/Tricks and pick up Evasion.

But, after 12-13, I have no idea how to progress the character.
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>>52146431
We're supposed to make our own setting info?
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So, pfg, with all the new games that have started running, how many active games are you currently in?

In in 6, or 5 per week. One of those campaigns may end soon.
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>>52146470
None. All the /pfg/ campaigns are full of memes and lewd. Don't try to get in if you're not a degenerate.
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>>52146431
I don't know what's going on here but I don't think I can resist my world-building boner.
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>>52146462
Pitch a character with a story that has the right tone, the setting outside this fief is yours to play with to build your story, within the lines of the fluff from the DM

That's how it basically works.
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What's the optimal way for me to fuck around with improvised weapons?
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Ooh! Ooh!

Okay, so I've got Martial Tradition up to level 7 (Celestial Tournament), what exactly does this mean for maneuver progression? How many maneuvers do I have, equivalent to a Warder or a Myrmidon?
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>>52146563
Losing hope and collapsing into tears at the realization it's never going to happen.
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>>52146595
What's that from?
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>>52146563
3pp or no?
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>>52146325
Alternatively, Book of Demon Girls
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>>52146627

I don't know, it's just really really cute!
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>>52146633
If that's what you were intending, you failed horribly.
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Puella GM, tell me, I want to make a character that fits both lewd and your game.

At what stage in their life should my character be? What should be drawing them in? I understand the tome is important, but you want none of your PCs to be from that one Kingdom. What should the PCs be like?
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>>52146389
Isn't there a magical cape that does that and gives a bonus to charisma rolls or something?
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>>52146595
At level 7 if you take full ranks in Knowledge (Martial) then you get
1) Two 1st level maneuvers, one readied.
2) Two maneuvers up to 2nd level, an extra readied maneuver, and a stance.
3) An additional maneuver up to 3rd level, an extra readied maneuver, an additional stance, and a retrained maneuver up to 2nd level.

This puts you at 2 less maneuvers, 1 less readied maneuver, and 1 less stance than a Myrmidon of equal level, and 4 less maneuvers, 2 less readied maneuver, and 1 less stance than a Warder of equal level.
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>>52146595
Read the fucking feats. I'm guessing you aren't level 9 though, so you only have up to Martial Training III.

You get two 1st level maneuvers, two maneuvers and a stance that can be up to 2nd level, and 1 maneuver and stance of up to 3rd. You can ready 3 maneuvers, and it takes a FRA to recover an expended maneuver.

You fucking faggot.
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>>52146637
No, I mean Celestial Tournament!
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>>52146676

Thank you!

>>52146686

Thank you!
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>>52146652
Google translate is a little unreliable

>>52146666
He's on vacation, Satan

I'd assume young 20's trying to track down the merchants for revenge or information or something, and be a proactive character who hasn't given up, be the fresh air in the grimdark
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>>52146694
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67969/the-celestial-tournament
PvP popularity contest.
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>>52146694

>Any character who is not an initiator gains the Martial Training feats up to the highest one (s)he qualifies for as bonus feats. If at any time you become an initiator from a source other than Martial Training, you lose the benefits of those feats.

Game link: https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67969/the-celestial-tournament
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>>52146470

None. I get flustered at the gorillion house rules and third party content pinned onto each one. I'm hoping something a bit more basic will come around eventually.
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>>52146758
Hilariously enough, Puella Game might scratch that itch
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>>52146710
I really like that rule, actually.
Means you don't have to choose an initiator class/archetype just to keep up.
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>>52146779

Yeah, and it's making me consider going Fighter (Weapon Master) 6 | Duelist 1 rather than Warder (ZS) 6 | Landsknecht 1
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>>52146796
better off staying regular fighter

Weapon master loses out on advanced weapon training
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>>52146796
Obviously the trick now is to go Sphere Gish like a mageknight or sphere inquisitor and reap the benefits.
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>>52146820
On the contrary...
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/advanced-weapon-training-combat/
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>>52146830
>check applications
>already a sphere inquisitor
FUCK
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>>52146705
Liber Puellarum (or Puellum) Daemonium, then. Using 'larualium' instead of daemonium would be more correct but less obvious at getting the point across.

(guess who was fun in high school)
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Is there a list of the archetypes for existing classes PoW gives? I found the Myrmidon for the Fighter but I'd rather not look search for every single one manually.
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>>52146859
www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/classes/archetypes-for-non-martial-classes
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>>52146859
Here's a good portion of them, senpai...

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/classes/archetypes-for-non-martial-classes/
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>>52146382
.... she's about to get turned into an orc tribe's fucksow isn't she.
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>>52146865
>Added the Roil Dancer kineticist
>srd changes to wordpress and reverts all the PoW changes I made
>Can't figure out how to edit them back in

SRD why.
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>>52146877
Dagnabbit that's one of my kinks.
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>>52146851
There's 32 applicants anon, who the fuck cares if you step on some toes.
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>>52146865
>>52146871
No archetype for the Swashbuckler, one of the classes that probably needed it the most? What a shame...
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>>52146910
Just pick up a fuckton of Scarlet Throne maneuvers and call it a day.
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All memes aside, who was your favorite character submitted to a /pfg/ game?
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>>52146910
It's called 'stop playing a swashbuckler and be a privateer or warlord or both instead'

Also see
'Stop being a cavalier and be a hussar'
'Stop being a samurai and be a bushi'
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>>52146941
>hussar

Poles pls go and stay go
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>>52146935
Probably Marianna to dragon 2. She's bully-able!
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>>52146935
Onryou
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>>52146932
What to heck, why does the MONK not get Broken Blade, that list of maneuvers was practically MADE for that class!

>>52146941
If you have a chance to fix what was broken and don't do so, you're just as guilty as the ones that broke it to begin with.
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>>52146962
Something something Monk of Silver fist is supposed to be defensive and not offensive.
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>>52146962
There's a solution to that...

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/pow-e-traits/unorthodox-method-regional-any/
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>>52145644
Could be a Dynamancer!

One of the abilities they can take is to cut off one of their arms to further challenge themselves.

This lets them use twohanded weapons in one hand, and add double their strength to damage rather than 1.5
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>Game looks intriguing and actually kind of makes me want to try making a character for it.
>But I haven't played a game with people I don't know in /years/ at this point
>Not at all good at building a strong character
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>>52146962
>If you have a chance to fix what was broken and don't do so, you're just as guilty as the ones that broke it to begin with.

I guess that means I can't leave the thread now because then it will be my fault you stayed stupid.
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>>52146563
Throw Anything with arrows. You don't need Quick Draw for arrows, and a single Adamantine arrow is 60~GP, in case you need a piercing weapon. You can also pick up the Catch Off-Guard for the melee version of this feat, but being able to throw things is more effective, I think.

Alternatively, there's a Trait you can take (Rough and Ready) which allows you to use tools of your trade, being tools for anything you would use with Craft skills, as improvised weapons without penalty and at a +1 trait bonus to the attack, making it a 1d4+1 weapon for both melee attacks and thrown.

I have a character that throws around butchers' hooks as grappling hooks and drags their enemies around.
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>mfw I could make something fookin' historic in Celestial Tournament
>IF ONLY IT WAS GESTALT

Of all the days to have a non-gestalt game, it had to be this one! THIS ONE!
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>>52146978
I've never played a game with people I don't know, it's pretty much the only reason I apply to /pfg/ games. Good experience y'know?
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>>52146971
That's dumb desu, monks should be able to be both since that's pretty much the whole idea of a monk, that they use their kung fu to not get hit while bashing down their enemies, but the instant they do get hit things get bad quickly.

>>52146999
I'm glad you care senpai.
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>>52147022
Apply to Shardwalkers: I think Argentum said they don't even look at the sheets, they judge purely on character concept.
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>>52147022
>y'know

Nope, I haven't 'applied' for a game since like 2012 and feel constantly inadequate regardless of experience, so I don't really get you.
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>>52147073
Not sure why armor-proficiency was scrapped in Shardwalkers, but I like that it gives me an excuse to play a pugilist.
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>>52147016
>I need gestalt for this concept
When Will This Meme Die?
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>>52147154
There was only one campaign that I took part in that actually needed gestalt.
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>>52147135
>Armor Proficiency is completely unavailable. No one really makes it because enough towns have enough Promethean Relics for defense that it's not worth the resources to produce unless your town is extraordinarily wealthy and yet extraordinarily poor in relics.
>Suncaster: A common Promethean Relic from the time before the world broke, a Suncaster creates a focused beam of sunlight capable of disintegrating most any material it comes in contact with. Most settlements maintain emplaced suncasters for defense against raiders and other unsavory types, and their proliferation across the shards has render most armor more of a burden than a boon to most combatants.

Basically, armor isn't worth the hassle because most of the time you need to DODGE instead.
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>>52147189
The weird ruleset really makes me want to find a way to abuse it.
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>>52147135
I legit just don't like armor in my settings.

Traditionally, it was too goddamn expensive to put on anyone but soldiers and the super wealthy. It should be something that MAKES the character, moreso even than their weapons, because where a weapon is an extension of a character, armor - especially full plate - overwrites their identity.
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>>52147189
So, armor is useless because it'll make you an easy target for the metaphorical kids with magnifying glasses. Good to know.
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>>52147232
Most light armors are relatively easy to produce as long as you have a blacksmith in your town, I will say. The hardest one would be chainmail, but anything below that would probably be fine.
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>>52147232
>A game with magic, spellcasters and fantasy bullshit
>OH, WELL TRADITIONALLY IN HISTORY, NO ONE COULD ACTUALLY AFFORD ARMOR BESIDES RICH, NOTABLE FIGURES AND SOLDIERS, AND PLAYER CHARACTERS ARE NEITHER, YOU SEE.
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>>52146952
>tfw someone liked my character
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>>52147189

What is Prescient Dodger, and why are Heavy Armor Proficiency classes getting shafted since the bonus they get is identical to the bonus you'd get from a Light Armor only class.
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>>52147073
shardwalkers not gestalt?
what one class would be good for a concept there?
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>>52146952

Really? I thought she was horrible!
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>>52147275
Prescient Dodger is the Monk's unarmored wis to AC with a scaling bonus, but with your highest mental stat, whichever it happens to be.
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>>52147232
I see where you're coming from with the whole identity thing. Whenever I need to find character art for some prick running around in armor, I try to get something with the dude's face clearly visible.
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>>52147292
The Gestalt-lite helps flesh things out a lot.
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>>52147154
It's not a meme tho
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>>52147135
>Not sure why armor-proficiency was scrapped in Shardwalkers

It's easier to dress like a slut or when armor isn't a thing. That's literally why.
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>>52147275
Highest mental to AC and CMD, and works against touch and flatfooted.

Less good against bigass clubs,way better against guns and scorching rays
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>>52147313
>>52147298

What if classes that lose Heavy Armor Proficiency also gain a bonus to armor equal to their Strength?
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>>52147312
>It's easier to dress like a slut or when armor isn't a thing.

I'm ok with this...
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>>52147232
But wizards chucking fireballs everywhere that's just fine
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>>52146935

Superb Owl
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>>52147313
Except the way the math breaks down makes it so the laser is still probably going to hit you AND your weaker to normal attacks.
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>>52147272
>It should be something that MAKES the character, moreso even than their weapons, because where a weapon is an extension of a character, armor - especially full plate - overwrites their identity.

Magic Bullshit only solidifies this - you have magic bullshit, if you're gonna have Armor it better be a goddamn magical exosuit that only helps and never hinders you. Thus why it should be a class feature that your class focuses around improving and making obscene and powerful.

Fighters shouldn't get "Lol my armor sux less" if they're gonna be heavies, they should get "I HAVE INSCRIBED THIS SUIT WITH ANCIENT RUNES GRANTING IT NOT ONLY THE ABILITY TO WITHSTAND DRAGONFIRE, BUT TO CHANNEL THE LIGHT OF HEAVEN ITSELF TO ALLOW ME TO KEEP ON RESURRECTING!"
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>>52147337

If we're following this rabbit hole, why does civilization exist at all?

Shouldn't the world be innumerable tribes of self-sufficient village-states since every one of them has a Cleric casting Food and Water with Wizards setting up defenses?

Where are the zombies working the fields? The mass transportation teleports?
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>>52147352
That's fucking stupid.
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>>52147365
>Where are the zombies working the fields?
Geb.
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>>52147365
Exactly, just accept the disconnect and move on
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>>52147352
>Fighters shouldn't get "Lol my armor sux less" if they're gonna be heavies, they should get "I HAVE INSCRIBED THIS SUIT WITH ANCIENT RUNES GRANTING IT NOT ONLY THE ABILITY TO WITHSTAND DRAGONFIRE, BUT TO CHANNEL THE LIGHT OF HEAVEN ITSELF TO ALLOW ME TO KEEP ON RESURRECTING!"

Wait, so Suncasters direct beams of sunlight, right?

What if there was an armor enchantment or special material that... Get this... Deflects or absorbs the beam, meaning the armor is still viable?
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>>52147346
Solution:
Heavy exchange allows shield. Prescient doesn't normally
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>>52147389

But why are we disconnecting at "wizards chucking fireballs?" Let's follow this trail of thought brother.
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>>52147352
Nah, not really. Armor is cool looking and making it some sort of fantasy Iron Man suit is tacky and stupid in most contexts.

And the idea that armor someone 'overwrites' anyone's identity is fucking stupid. You don't have to be half naked to have a personality and character.

A character can still have an identity and personality even if they literally wear a greathelm or mask and never once remove it.
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What game do I apply to if I want to be a banchou?
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>>52147419

Hell's Rebels.

Shardwalkers.

Celestial Tournament.
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>>52147392
Don't be silly, don't you know that after people started using weapons that could pierce armor in real life, it immediately stopped being used in all contexts and was never revised or altered to be of more use?

And the concept of armor was never brought back when new technologies and materials became available, either, idiot.
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>>52147419
Hell's Rebels.
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>>52147411
because i just don't care.

People going PATHFINDER IS NOT HISTORICALLY ACCURATE IN X RESPECT are dumb and people who go BUT I'M NOT AN EVIL NECROMANCER are even stupider
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>>52147430
>The only campaigns that would allow Spellburst Savant or Empath Medium are the ones I'm not interested in

Sad
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>>52147418
The vast majority of non-military perspective fiction disagrees with you.

>>52147392
Nope. I also just plain don't want fullplate.

>>52147435
Dontcha know that those are all artifact weapons the users don't fully understand and that workable armor against it would likewise be an artifact?

>>52147402
I forgot about that - I'll throw in that note, as well as everyone getting Defensive Focus (Shield to Touch) for free.
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>>52147346
You've gained Hardness though. That's pretty significant.
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>>52147470
Right, so, why is it heavy armor users are getting shafted?
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>>52147486
>>52147489

>Light Armor Proficiency grants DR 5
>Medium Armor Proficiency grants DR 10
>Heavy Armor Proficiency grants DR 15
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>>52147489
STRFAGS BLOWN OUT YET AGAIN
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>>52147489
They're getting the ability to use shields.

They can also grab STR to AC and Reflex Saves.
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>>52147470
Defensive Expertise is the name of it I believe. Lets you add shield to touch and its enhancement to reflex (hide behind for fireball if it's magical too)

A shield makes sense anyways; it's a lot less materials than a full armor, and incredibly - unlike in d20 - defensively helpful
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>>52147470
>The vast majority of non-military perspective fiction disagrees with you.

I guess you've got me in a checkmate, I can't think of any notable characters in fiction that wore masks or helmets for a significant amount of time.
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>>52147502
>They're getting the ability to use shields.

>Armor is useless in this setting because beams of energy destroys them
>Shields however are completely functional and are immune to these beams of energy
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>>52147500
>STR to AC and Reflex for 1/5 Gestalt-lite points

What were you saying again?
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>>52147502
Yeah that's like one point of the gestalt points, and a good one since it also lets'em swap from dex.
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>>52146935
Even ignoring the meming that happened during RotJR applications, Lilin and Val stand out as my personal favorites. I'm still a little disappointed we never got to see these two interact.
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>>52147524
See man, you angle the shields and like, the lasers deflect off. Duh.
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>>52146935
Unironically Rinka

I want to bully her
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>>52147524
You have to hit the beam of light with your shield anon. It's parrying.

You can't parry with a breastplate silly anon.
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>>52147524
That's actually a good point.
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>>52147548
Fuck you try and stop me
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>>52147502
Oh, okay

Wait, don't they have to pay a gestalt point for that?
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>>52145584
A bunch of these ended or are blatant bamboozles
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>>52147470
>>>52147435
Dontcha know that those are all artifact weapons the users don't fully understand and that workable armor against it would likewise be an artifact?
I was planning on making a Blacksmith for this game, since you're allowing SoM. I assume Suncasters are touch attacks right?

Well, Blacksmiths can do this at level 1.
>Polish: The blacksmith polishes his allies metal armor, weapons, and shields, giving them a
clean polish that can even deflect magical attacks. Once per day, when an affected ally would
normally be hit by a ray attack, they may deflect it as a free action that can be taken even when it is
not their turn so that they take no damage and are unaffected by it. The ally must be aware of the
attack and not flat-footed. The blacksmith and his affected allies may reflect one additional ray per
day at 5th level and every 5 levels thereafter.

They can grant this ability to 1+Con allies a day.

How does this impact the world, if at all?
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>>52147545

Rinka was an obnoxious piece of shit and I despise the level of obsession you memesters had for her.

She's a fucking dork rat. How is that even remotely cute or, dare I say it, attractive to you people?

>Oh hurp durp Ink-Eyes has a nice butt so she's obviously indicative of the rest of Ratfolk

"No!" Shame upon the house of whoever made Rinka. Shame.
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>>52147559
>H-how did you deflect my attack!?
>I flexed.
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>>52146563
Also, and I forgot this before (being this >>52147000 anon), Opium is the best drug in the game, as it has no save for the fatigue or the ability damage (the only save is for addiction, with a fort save DC of 22) and only costs 25GP per dose/vial/whatever and can affect an opponent through injury, so if you can poison your arrows with it, you're able to, if not put down your enemies with the drug effects, then at least weaken them severely. It's a strategy that is only slightly expensive at first level and next to nothing later on.

It's even a mundane item in the DMG, so you can't be restricted to core to not be allowed it. It can be bought freely in freaking Society, where everything is so restricted you scarcely get anything good, let alone fun. My DM likened it to Black Lotus Extract, which costs 4500GP, but you get to make a save against that.
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>>52146935
Amuzak, because even though he looks like an edgelord and duel wields swords like an edgelord, taken at face value he's just a guy with a master thief for a mom that wants to make her proud.
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>>52147575
>she's a fucking dork rat
>how is that cute

How is a dork rat not cute?
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>>52147578
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>>52147608

Rats are ugly and dorks are by their very nature grating, unappealing and all-around terrible people to be around.
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>>52147618
Yes, thats why they deserve to be bullied
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>>52147524
Memedog was pretty fun, even if the player's self-promotion was super trashy.

I would have liked to play with the non-trap Rory.
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>>52147639

Oh, I believe they deserve to get bullied.

Want me to explain how I would bully Rinka?

I would call her a piece of trash and not choose her for the game.
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>>52147662
anon

are you salty?
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>>52147666

STAY OUT OF THIS, SATAN.
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>>52147618
>rats are ugly
>t. person who has never seen a pet rat
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>>52147646

Whups. I meant to respond to this instead: >>52146935
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>>52147666
satan trips confirm for salt
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>>52147677
SOMEbody's still mad they weren't picked for Dragon 2~
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>>52146935


All this talk about Amalthea being a goddess recently reignited my love for her. Would gladly worship The Vessel of Rebirth and Bear her children.
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>>52147679
fukkin cute
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>>52147570
It's clearly something that wears down after use, therefore most like used on shields or other easily disposable equipment (or even swords, for the ones who would seek to demoralize a village with their prowess). Probably explains how there are bandits around still being successful enough to exist, if a level 1 blacksmith can do it.
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>>52147677
>>52147662

If y'all fuckers want some real salt, just mention Rory.
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>>52147578
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>>52147710

Yyyep.
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>>52147710

That's disgusting.

>>52147679

I hope you catch the plague.
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>>52147747
>Rory

S H I T T Y
M E M E
D O G
>tfw no animal farm
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>>52147765
>tiny adorable mammal
>disgusting

I think you're just salty.

it must be hard to see through all those tears
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>>52147765
ur disgusting nerd
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With how often my characters end up sort of becoming generally silent wallflowers, I sort of want to make a character that embraces it, and is just a tiny, mumbling weakling who follows the party along and somehow passively hands out buffs or debuffs while generally being ignored.

M-Maybe if I make being worthless and ignored as a joke it wouldn't hurt so bad.
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>>52147785
I feel ya, senpai.
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>>52147784
>>52147779

DELETE THIS

>>52147785

I'd bully the heck out of you
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>>52147765
Plague comes from fleas on the rats, not the rats themselves. You know why the rats have fleas? Because shitty people like you didn't take care of them. Take care of your rats or get the plague.
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>>52147706
>spoiler
O-oh my.
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>>52147766
>mfw really anon?
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>>52147732
Well RAW, it doesn't do anything to the weapon. It's something the Blacksmith is expected to provide their allies everyday(along with some other tasty bonuses).

Even if it did, they also get the ability to easily repair any weapon to tip shape in a few standard actions.
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So, wanting to run a paladin or cavalier, but want play one with a connection to the Fey. Any archetypes that would help with that? The only one I can think of is the Order of the Green for Cavaliers.
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>>52147827
I want Rory to run a train on the other Rory
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>>52147747

Rory is perhaps the greatest character /pfg/ has ever made. He is tall, handsome, a fluffy doggo and in the game everyone wanted to be in. Rory is living the dream not just as a celebrated game character, but as the very soul of this General.

Cry harder, losers. This character won the lottery.
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>>52147838
>>52147732
That being said an easy solution for this is to say that their built tough enough that a few blasts from another sun-caster can disable(but not destroy) it or something. So even if bandits do disable a sun-caster and rush the town, they'd still have incentive to just no wreck the thing since it's still an asset.
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>>52147858
>only got in because his Rory sounds kind of like Roar
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>>52147706

I want Amalthea to help me Repopulate the reclaimed Worldwound.
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>>52147841

Sadly none, however nymphs are a celebrated part of knightly quests.

Write extensively about your Fair Lady in your backstory, and play a Paladin (no god) who aspires to the Seven Knightly Virtues of Courage, Honesty, Justice, Faith, Hope, Generosity and... Well, forgot the last one but collecting them all makes you a True Knight equal to Galahad and Gawain.
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>>52147858
And now he's got a trap, a punchgirl, a disney princess, a cute chuuni, and Jessica Rabbit in prime dicking position.

Is this the power of being a literal horndog?
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>>52147858
Rory is smelly and has scraggly hair!
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>>52147889

Your tears are delicious.
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>>52147914
IS THIS THE POWER OF ANIME?
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>>52147916

RORY IS A CLEAN DOGGO THAT LICKS HIS CROTCH EVERY DAY

>>52147933

MEME MAGIC IS REAL
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12519717

Let's get some tentative information on these long-standing rumors.
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>>52147785
Just play a healer with a bad charisma score. Charisma is your force of personality, so it'd make sense not to have that on a wallflower.
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>>52147958

What if Daddy is also a professional?
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>>52147575
You're too young to remember all the gadget porn.

And I don't mean the inspector.
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>>52147853
RED ROCKET COMING IN FOR LANDING

>>52147933
>>52147930
>>52147916
>>52147914
>>52147889
>>52147858
>>52147956

>Pic related
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>>52147974
I feel like traditional healing is a bit too direct and overtly useful for the idea.
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>>52147899

Can I help? I think the effect would be stronger if we worshiped her together.
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>>52147977
Shit. I didn't think this through nearly well enough.
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>>52147984

Well, yeah. People didn't have smartphones back then-they had to use a ton of different gadgets to do their jobs.
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>>52147996

Just make another one with the top men of /pfg/ and use that as a measuring stick for what people like.
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>>52147838
You'll need Technologist if you want to use Blacksmith repairs on Suncasters or similar.

And, no, it applies to their equipment, not the character. You're polishing their equipment to obtain the effect, that's literally the name and the fluff of the ability; it will be reflected like that, doubly so if you're trying to use it to break setting (which it seems like you are, given that you're attempting to force a "compromise" in your other post).
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good christ what the fuck is even going on in here
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>>52147993

What the hell do you want then? You want to be some useless mumbling faggot that does nothing at all?

Heal the competent player asses and get back in line.
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>>52148027

It is an enigma.
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>>52147765
>I hope you catch the plague.
Actually, most rats are incredibly hygenic, and will even groom eachother.

Its Mice and hamsters and the other pet rodents that are filthy and disgusting.

Also they are cute. t. a guy who has a part time job disecting, stuffing, and mounting them for scientific specimens at my local NatSci Research Lab
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>>52148038
I didn't say I wanted the character to be useless! Jeez, c'mon, I haven't done a lot of looking for specific ideas yet, and if traditional healing is the best way, then so be it, it just wasn't my first thought. Sorry.
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So how does the Inquisitor's Bane ability work? Swift to turn it on every round? Swift to turn it on, leave it on? Swift to choose, no need to turn it on?
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>>52148027

The Fate of Empires says they always eventually reach an Age of Decadence.
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>>52148027
>It's simple

RED ROCKET
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>>52147993
But... That's exactly what was asked for. Buffs/debuffs and weak.

How about... uuhhh... support wizard who eventually becomes chess wizard at higher levels. Is that less good?
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>>52148060
>When you legit want to play a healer who gets bullied sexually by the rest of the party
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This thread is a mess, no one will notice your confession!

I always, without any exception, make my male characters with homolust in mind.
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>>52147579
There's a class feature that allows you to use drugs as poisons, so no you can't use Opium like that by default.
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>>52148071

Fate is easily defied, if you are willing to do the unthinkable.
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>>52148060

I'm beginning to think the easiest way you could simultaneously nail the wallflower shtick and actually get noticed by Senpai is if you played a Divine Prostitute of Lymnieris - a literal whore whose beauty is marred by a deeply submissive and meek personality.
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>>52148087
I still want to play my Full Enchantment Mindrapist Kitsune again at some point, solely to either prove that he's a fucking monster that should not be trusted or for him to get a train run on his bubbly ass
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>>52148087
I build my female characters with the idea that they might get broken on monster dick in mind!
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>>52147706

WE NEED TO PUSH AMALTHEA FOR SUMMER SLAM!!!
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How do I fix magic in PF, anons?
should I just remove all spells except for core and Ult magic?
the thread topic of debilitating injuries sounds really interesting and cool!, and i dont want casters being the omnipotent solution to everything in the game
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>>52148087

You mean they are made to incite homolust, or they are made to feel homolust?
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>>52148086

See >>52148101

Fat ass + No spine = fun for everyone
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>>52148113
Literly

No

Use Spheres of Power. Core rulebook and ult magic are the LARGEST sources of broken magic.
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>>52148116
what's the difference
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>>52148109
AMALTHEA VS REIGNS

Reigns is STILL gonna win...
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>>52148107

Are any of your characters currently in a Pathfinder group? This is very important!

>>52148109

GENETIC FREAK
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>>52148113

That's the thing-core spell lists have some really nonsensical stuff on them. The game was made with a caster supremacy design philosophy, after all.
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>>52148082
I guess you're right, I didn't mean to make anyone put any thought into suggestions for the idea.

I'm weirdly terrible at Wizards so i'd probably just stick with the first suggestion and make some sort of Oracle Because i'm too dumb to choose a new set of spells every day.

>>52148101
I dunno. Not a bad idea, but i'm not sure if i'd feel super comfortable playing a literal whore.

Though to be fair this is all moot regardless, because >Implying i'm going to play in any game, ever.
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>>52148116
I build my character's so that they wouldn't look out of place in a yaoi manga, and until proven otherwise, they're all gay men.
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>>52148120
Like that'd be the ideal here, quivering girl with a motherly figure who's too timid to refuse anything her party wants, demanding she dress however they want in public.
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>>52148126
>>52148143

thank, will look into it.
what about things like cantrips though, core probably does have a lot of broken spells, but i feel casters do need to have some fringe utility so they dont swing from absolute gods to useless.
is there a banlist maybe, where stupid powerfull spells are culled and mages are brought down to size.
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>>52148139
Yes!
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Post classes that you never seen played or discussed. Whether it's due to popularity or lack of use.
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>>52148087
I can't write a backstory for shit, yet I keep trying to get into story-intensive campaigns.
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>>52148175
I've never seen a Hunter in game, but players I know insist they're everywhere.
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>>52148166
IMO, I'd give spherecasters normal Vancian Cantrips for free, just because no matter how much the guy who made spheres will throw a fit, it should NOT TAKE FOUR FUCKING TALENTS TO USE DETECT MAGIC
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OBSERVE THIS AND DISPAIR
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>>52148172

Which Pathfinder campaign? Give us a name! Please!

>>52148157

Then make one next time a meme game shows up.
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>>52148194
>Red Rocket to the Stars

fuck it, I'm done, I can't stay awake to this shit any more
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>>52148194
i never asked for this
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>>52148196
She's in Friday of the Jade Regent!
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>>52148175
cavalier and the spellslinger archetype
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>>52148175

Haven't heard much about rangers lately. Archetypal woodsmen seem to have kind of fallen by the wayside, especially with fighter actually getting some good stuff.
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>>52148175
The medium, the spiritualist, the mesmerist, and the psychic.

Hunters, skalds, druids, summoners, ninjas, samurai

Most prestige classes too
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>>52148184
I really don't see the point of Hunter when Druid is just there.

You sacrifice 9th level spells for a better animal companion OR a better wildshape, when the Druid gets both of those regardless? Sure, not as 'good' as those of the Hunter, but they get BOTH still!

And if you want your cake and eat it too as a Druid, you just take Feather domain for a companion, then Boon companion to bump it to your level anyway, while getting a bunch of spells that aren't on the Druid's spell list, like Fly or Feather fall.
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>>52148196
My main problem is thematically I love it, but mechanically I dislike healers/buffers, even if I would love to be bullied as one.
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>>52148213

No! No! This can't be happening!

All the monster dick happens off-screen in that game, except for Nualia's lusty hounds!
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>>52148184
I've played hunters (pic related is one of my characters); it's my favorite class as I love pet classes and it's one of the most balanced classes in the entire game.

But NOBODY plays that shit except for me, from what I've seen. Even Warpriests and Swashbucklers see more use.
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>>52148213
I know Quinn's player never goes on the thread, and the twins are too precious. This leaves only one option.Unless the shapeshifter is pulling the greatest ruse of all time?
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>>52148238

Play a Vitalist who gets in the heads of her teammates, only to see their vivid thoughts of gangbanging her!

Or they've all had a turn with her and, when she turns the HUD on, they're sharing experiences!
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>>52148257
>Quinn's player never goes on the thread
Quinn's player is QANON IIRC.
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>>52148238
Well, if you ever end up doing a character similar to this, enjoy it f-for me I guess.

t. >>52147785
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>>52148257
inb4 the entire cast of FotJR and SotJR is revealed to be Rory. Rorubio. Onroryou. It's Rory's all the way done. DESPAIR
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>>52148248

Hey there, as the Anon who posted >>52148237 (druid is my favored class, frankly), what attracts you to Hunter over Druid in particular? I just don't see the point.

Like, I get that you have a better companion, teamwork feats for it, but I guess the Druid class has spoiled me.
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>>52147706

What was her profile/domains again?
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>>52148090
I'm unaware of that class feature. Could you tell me what it is?
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>>52148284
Pretty sure QANON rarely visits the thread, but maybe that's changed
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>>52148287
Oh, I will. Like the idea of playing as pic related, being forced to dress like that by her party members who wouldn't think twice to leave her behind while running from a group of well hung orcs or other monsters, only collecting their property once those creatures were finished? Great concept.
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>>52148257
You think I didn't have such contingencies planned for the LITERAL PROSTITUTE? The LITERAL PROSTITUTE PACTMAKER? You fool!
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>>52148301
Yeah, if I can find it again. It was on an archetype.
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>>52148287

MAKE YOUR OWN SLUT, DAMMIT.
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>>52148234
I'm a big fan of Spiritualist and wish more people would look into it. It's got some really cool stuff going with it.

>>52148194
Have fun you horny kids
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>>52148257
My money's on Rubio. He's like an iceberg--least fetishy on the surface, but just underneath there's gotta be a fucking mountain of fetishes swimming around.
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>>52148237
>>52148291
There's some things that Hunters get that Druid doesn't, which you're ignoring.

Teamwork feats for free is one of the bigger ones, as well as getting a buddy that automatically can use them. that is seriously important.

Then the animal based buffs for amping up your pet and yourself. Another thing that a lot of people overlook with the Hunter is that its companion can learn skirmisher ranger tricks, which are hilariously good because they're meant to replace a Ranger's spellcasting (which, while not amazing, is still spellcasting).

Past that, there's some things the actual PC gets that are all but unique. The first is the ability to crib Ranger spells, all of whch are great but attached to Ranger; look up Allfood to see the sort of thing I'm talking about. That spell alone almost makes it worth it. Second, if she doesn't have an animal companion currently (A decent possibility, given the danger of the character's profession) they can instead use Summon Nature's Ally the same way a Summoner uses Summon Monster. If your wolf or whatever eats a spear through the brain mid-combat, you can just start spontaneously summoning elementals and shit.
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>>52148298
>>52147706

Here you go Senpai

>Amalthea, Vessel of Rebirth, The All-Mother, Womb of Heroes

>Goddess of Fertility, Reincarnation, Consensual Sex and Caring Parents.

>NG
>Domains: Charm, Community, Repose, Healing, Good, [Fertility]
>Subdomains: Love, Family, Ancestors, Resurrection, Friendship
>Holy Symbol: Stork with a Cloth Sack in its beak.
>Holy Animal: Phoenix
>Favored Weapon: Dagger

>Deific Obedience:
>Spend one hour caring for, singing lullabies, or nursing infants, children, or others in need of a nurturing. When complete, the All-Mother grants a +4 sacred bonus to heal, and diplomacy checks, +6 if the recipient has the Young Template/ or is a young member of their race.
>>
i just wanted to be a cute rat
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>>52148257

Who is the biggest secret slut in FotJR? SotJR?
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>>52148408
LITERAL PROSTITUTE
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>>52148388
Just realized I was unclear with that last bit

you still have to take Summon Nature's Ally, but the minute per level thing is important. Also also, you get the animal focus for free when your companion is down, but that's just gravy.
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>>52148405

SMASH THE R@

>>52148403

Remove one Domain/Subdomain and invent a Subdomain for Fertility.
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>>52148364
It's kind of like a stand, but not, I guess. EVERY SINGLE OCCULT CLASS except for maybe the Psychic has the issue that they' ve all got lots of fiddly numbers and stuff to keep track of, and the Spiritualist is objectively THE WORST of them. I can barely wrap my head around it and I'm a big player of Kineticists and Mediums!

>>52148408
I bet it's Etan.
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>>52148426

WAY AHEAD OF YOU!

Fertility Domain

1st level: Can cast charm person/monster 3+Wis Times a day. Increase the Save +2 against If the the target is a child, has the Young Template, or has the mentality of a child.

6th Level: With a touch, one can guarantee that any sexual acts within the next 24 hours will or will not produce a pregnancy, The user's choice. The act must be done in such a way where its physically possible to cause impregnation. In addition the user can set the number of children conceived, a number between 1 and 10. This can effect individuals who are normally Sterile or Barren.

Domain spells= Remove Sickness, Re-centering Drone, Remove Disease, Age Resistance, Reincarnate, Threefold Aspect, Refuge, Nine Lives, Miracle
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>>52148331
>>52148358
>Slut

Whoa, whoa. I feel like things took a few leaps here. /My/ spirit-character would be the short, un-endowed girl standing in the corner, looking down in dejection, engulfed in a dreadful mix of annoyance and jealously that the party all want to shove their dicks into that stupid whore.

But then she'd instantly go back to quietly doing her role, not actually voicing those feelings, let alone acting on them.


But nah i'm terrible at everything, let alone making characters or participating in games.
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>>52148388
So I see. I'm not ignoring them, I'm aware of all those points, I just don't think all of these things is worth losing Druid stuff. Different playing philosophies, I guess.
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>>52148408
>>52148383
Sweettooth's the one most desperate to never take part in sexy times. And his player's the one running Wrath of the Raunchy. I'm betting they're the most secretly fetishy.
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>>52148388
>Allfood
I have ignored the Ranger spell list my entire life and now I am wondering what a mistake I've made.
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>>52148426
>PUNISHED RINKA
>A CHUUNI DENIED HER CHUUNINESS
>>
Casual reminder that the guy wanting to run the "you're going to fight monsters that want to rape you but you can't make characters whose goal it is to not get raped" is the same guy who made Aisha, who had the same problem of "this character has a somewhat dark backstory but I don't want to say it is" when designing her.
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>>52148481
Huhboy. Almost makes me pine for DHB's unintentionally rapey-sounding stuff, at least he's always more open to criticism.
>>
Should players be subtly warned, by NPC or whatever, that murdering kings, even if such monarchs are tyrants, will lead to their painful execution and their families for regicide?
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>>52148257
>and the twins are too precious
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>>52148504
>>52148481
On that note, I wasn't paying attention too closely--did any of the 2nd round of HV apps actually include sex? I remember something about Yuria being raped, and Keldor's pastebin alluded to him raping maids and getting brain-fucked by an outsider, but other than that they all seemed kind of tame for a lewd game.
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>>52148537
In contrast to a whole lot of evil in the first batch, the second round was very subdued.
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>>52148403
>>52148444

WHY DOES THIS WORK!?
>>
>Want to play in a lewd game
>Remember that I can't roleplay sex well for the life of me
>Remember that I can't really roleplay anything well
>Don't want to play in any game.
>Read about lewd character ideas and stories of people having fun
>GOTO 10
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>>52148526
>PC actions
>ever having any sort of consequences
Wow. Bad GM alert!
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>>52148547
Yeah. Possibly the mood just changed or people found other games to get their jollies. The new apps seemed to mostly be either campy but mostly nonsexual motherfuckers or people who could easily have been neutral in a bad situation (and some who were).

Like, delete five lines each from guys like Mikhael, Keldor, and even Sir Nefarious, they'd probably fit into a mostly-good game.
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>>52148569
I would submit a toned-down Mikhael, but I heard some people get pissy about that kind of shit.
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>>52148431
>Etan
Wrong season. Gotta wait till the vixens get frisky
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>>52148537
>Made a literal parasite infestation mind-controlled ojou looking to spread her spawn to others

...Did I write it too subtly or something?
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>>52148602

Here's a new thread for you degenerates- we clogged this one up with Roryposting.
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How much of the meme characters are memed on basically 90% by the characters' own players wanting attention?
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>>52148643
PAGE
FIVE
DAMN IT
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>>52148643
just accept that rory is your lord and master
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>>52148646
As unbelievable as it sounds, I don't meme my own characters. If my character can't get into a game without the use of memes, it isn't good enough for me to use.
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>>52148666
I wanna polish that red-hot rocket!
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>>52148646
I would feel embarrassment and shame if my characters got meme'd on like this, regardless of who is doing it
>>
So what I am really disappointed about is with all the "punch girls" and "hot blooded" characters it's basically the same personality repeated ad nauseam. It's like people can't build a fucking strength based character in an interesting way.

Heck, it's like half of /pfg/ can't build an interesting character without repeating the same fucking plot lines and tired tropes. Hardly any characters I see are actually interesting, they're just pressing buttons on a fetish chart.

What character ARE actually unique and interesting? Is there anyone with a record for building interesting characters?
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>>52148703
>Is there anyone with a record for building interesting characters?
D H B
H
B
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>>52148703

DHB
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>>52148703
I hear the anon that made Rory is pretty decent, but those are just rumors.
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>>52148703
You tell me.
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>>52148703
I like to claim that I have such a record, but I never actually get picked for games.

I'm the one that built Anja, that girl with the eldritch monstrosity feeding on her emotions.
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>>52148703
>Is there anyone with a record for building interesting characters?
DHB
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>>52148646
Most of them. You either build yourself up by samefagging about how awesome/lewd you are, or the thread just goes "you jus a fuccboi".
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>>52148703
>So what I am really disappointed about is with all the "punch girls" and "hot blooded" characters it's basically the same personality repeated ad nauseam. It's like people can't build a fucking strength based character in an interesting way.

I tried doing something different with Philo for Dragon2, but it backfired horribly.
>>
>>52148703
DHB
>>
>>52148738
>I'm the one that built Anja, that girl with the eldritch monstrosity feeding on her emotions.

I think she was my favorite app for RotJR, was sad she didn't get picked.
>>
>>52148760
>>52148746
>>52148722
>>52148718
Hi DHB, nice of you to join us.
>>
>>52148723
He's a fun guy. The rumors are legit.
>>
>>52148760
>>52148746
>>52148722
>>52148718
If he builds such fucking interesting characters why doesn't he get into any games?
>>
>>52148762
That's actually encouraging to hear, thank you.
>>
>>52148703
Interesting and entertaining are actually separate things.
It's entertaining that gets into games - classic characters done well get picked, unique characters that are too weird to get a proper feel of get glossed over.

Are there any characters from popular fiction you feel are both unique and entertaining and can be summed up in two paragraphs?
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>>52148723
Rory poster pls go and stay go.
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>>52148779
...

Cause GMs don't want interesting characters. They want fapbait that gets their peen hard.

Reminder: It's literally not DHB's fault he doesn't get picked. It's faggot tier GMs who'd rather pick the app with the big tittied anime catgirl or the shota /ss/ bait.
>>
>>52148769
It's DHB witch-hunters and dick suckers.
>>52148703
>What character ARE actually unique and interesting? Is there anyone with a record for building interesting characters?
A. That's subjective. Interesting to person A may be boring to person B.
B. Stop fucking trying to start shit by asking for names. You're just fucking stirring up shit.
>>
>>52148778
Really? I assumed he was just a meme-anon

>>52148801
See >>52147858
>>
>>52148769
I can't tell if it's false flagging against DHB, memeing, DHB, or people being serious. I feel like I'm in too deep at this point.

>>52148799
>Are there any characters from popular fiction you feel are both unique and entertaining and can be summed up in two paragraphs?
Honestly? Croaker I would say is fairly unique in his perspective on life, but it can be summed up in two paragraphs. Raven as well. The characters from early on in The Black Company had great personalities.
>>
>>52148810
His characters honestly aren't all that interesting. It's pretty much all just purple prose.
>>
>>52148816
>sucking your own dick this much

Rory, seriously bro.
>>
>>52148848
I mean, if he's flexible enough to, he might as well. He's putting on a hell of a show.
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>>52148703

Pretty much anybody who makes something unique and entertaining gets shit on in /pfg/ honestly. They become a meme followed by both hatred and adoration but mostly hatred.

Making generic fetish characters it just an easy way for people to get into games now.
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>>52148868
Here's hoping he goes the way of Clerks and breaks his neck trying.
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>>52148829
Honestly I agree. DHB's character have all been fucking garbage. I wouldn't play with them if you payed me too. Good characters got into games, his didn't.
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>>52148880
>>52148868
>>52148848
I was actually not expecting Rory to become this memetic, and am trying to oversaturate /pfg/ with him so that he stops being a meme. It appears my efforts are failing
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>>52148900
Dude, just stop. He's not even that funny, if you don't encourage them the rest will give up on trying to push him and move on to someone else.
>>
I think if DHB made literally Kirito, people would analyze the shit out of his writing and praise how exquisitely every word captures the depth of his personality.
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>>52148900
Anon, you have the male equivalent of Onryou at this point. Even if the memes die, they will come back stronger.
>>
>>52148955
What if Onryou and Rory performed the Fusion Dance from Dragon Ball Z? Would we be able to withstand the storm of memes? Could we even look upon the majesty that would be OnRoryou?
>>
>>52148879
This reads like the bitter ranting of someone who thinks they're very creative but doesn't understand mass appeal.

>I'm the best artist but the audience just isn't sophisticated enough to appreciate my work
>>
Has anybody here played Legacy of Fire before? Got any tips to a GM planning to run it?
>>
>>52148984
Admittedly the best way to get appeal around here is by following a relatively easy fetish formula because most GMs do a fair amount of the choosing with their dicks.
>>
>>52149016
I never followed Dragon2, but RotR despite the name had pretty good characters. 4/6 of the HV chars are not fetish either.
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>>52148984
>it's popular so it's good.
No.
>>52149016
That and whoring your character out in the thread.
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>>52149016
>Games with erotic role play aspects
>Characters' sex appeal is factored into judgements of who gets in

Gee anon, who'd have thought!
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>>52148703
I mean people will meme DHB but legit the anon behind Rinka and Shizuka actually makes solid characters

They vary in quality, but they seem solid enough, and they're all interesting enough in personality that i would want to see them in game
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>>52149066
who would you call the 'fetish' characters anyways.

Salacia and Lyra I guess?
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>>52149012
Don't make it lewd or gestalt.
It'll be a breath of fresh air for all of us who got sick of meme games.
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>>52149096
>Popular must mean it's bad

Tabletop is a cooperative endeavor. No matter how clever the concept is, if the rest of the group doesn't enjoy it, you've failed at something vital.
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>>52149136
>Popular must mean it's bad
I never said that either.
> No matter how clever the concept is, if the rest of the group doesn't enjoy it
It is actually very fucking difficult to gauge how people and characters will actually mesh once things start actually happening.
>>
>>52149012
Don't fucking say 'lewd' in the lfg. Don't fucking make it gestalt. Jesus fucking christ don't use the term 'loli', 'dues vult', 'comfy', 'kitsune' or 'trap' in the fucking lfg.

Please, let's just have an adventure.
>>
Man first I was surprised and intrigued by how many active games there were for this general but now i'm just kind of intimidated.
>>
>>52149212
just believe in urself
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>>52149212
Most of them are fake, never start, or end after 1 session. We're a land of stillborn games.
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>>52149238
>implying
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>>52149238
To my knowledge the only one session wonders were Molthune Knights and the other Hell's Vengeance.
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>>52149244
there have been a quite a few bamboozlings and fake games
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>>52149122
Salacia and Lyra, yep, but even then they have interesting character concepts outside of this. The rest have nothing fetish about them.

Shizuka is a normal painter corrupted by a demon sword.
Yori is pure religious fury of Asmodeus.
Gunther is a thug butler with a pocket-sized skillmonkey demon.
Lauren is an assassin who wants a cushy normalfag life.
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>>52149298
I'll agree with all of those but Gunther and Lauren.

Their applications just didn't grab my interest in the least.

But maybe I am biased because I wanted Lyra to suffocate my with her thicc juicy thights to see some more party diversity in terms of mechanical composition.
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>>52149496
>But maybe I am biased because I wanted Lyra to suffocate my with her thicc juicy thights

Probably, because her character is just "I'm a bitch"
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>>52149514
Not that guy but I honestly think that could be a pretty fun shtick to see or play with in a game.
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>>52149514
Honestly, a bitchy character is more interesting than characters that came off as just Garrett the Master Thief with Tiddies and evil mirror universe Alfred.
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>>52149496
I'm the one who submitted Lauren, but that's fine. I'm just saying that they aren't fetish characters, that's all.
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>>52149672
She needs more ass.
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