/pfg/ pathfinder general

>>52141362
its just fuckups all the way down isn't it

>>52141362
When did /pfg/ get all these games? I don't even know which of these are still open or what they're about.

>>52141362
I vote for Rory as official god of shitty memes

Anybody else find it weird how /pfg/ screeches autistically at "slender animu fuccbois" yet small, fey young men are always the ones they push to be the biggest manwhores?

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>>52141362
Old Thread: >>52138090

>>52141480
>buying the autistic screeching

>>52141480

It's the same reason why /pfg/ will call a character their waifu in one breath, and then yearn to see her cocksleeved on a werewolf's knot in the other.

cody shouldve gotten in

there i said it

>>52141512
who?

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>>52141494
>1414
>nice pairs

>>52141512
Literally anyone but.

>>52141480
Not gonna lie, the only reason I was upset about the early closure of dragons 2 was because I wanted to see people autistically screech about the 7 Str, 4'7" guy.

"You and your damn elves, I'M SICK OF IT!"

>>52141512
>literally a blatantly recycled dragons2 app

Nah son

look i don't mind recycled apps... But put some effort into it.

>>52141533
Str dumpers need to be burned at the stake

>>52141521
the other butler that applied to HV that was some kind of reverse trap or trap or something

>>52141362

Why do we still give a damn about Amalthea when she's a non-existing character in no games? SwimmingEagle chose Onryou over her, she's never going to Apothesize much less star in a session.

>>52141550
No its not.

>>52141510
See also: Onryou, Shizuka, anybody from WotRaunchy.

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How /m/anly your character, /pfg/? Are they filled with hot-blooded courage and GUTS?

>>52141538
You mean an app recycled because it didn't even get a proper chance at its first game because eagle quietly shut down applications an hour before it was posted.

>>52141564
What does Shizuka have to do with being a waifu.

>>52141362
Did Amalthea pass the test of starstone? Or did she just have THAT many kids?

>>52141538
honestly they added a lot more detail it seemed in the HV version than the dragons version

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>>52141541
Could you burn this at the stake, anon? Could you really bring yourself to do it?

>guy pitches dark lewd game
>pfg demands it
>he posts it
>hammered by shitposters

>>52141552
People have forgotten when Amalthea was first posted, everybody called Eagle out on how blatant it was

>>52141572
its still obviously a dragons2 app

its also TOO FUCKING LONG

>>52141567
so what? It deserves a pity-fuck of a game?

Fuck no.

>>52141566

My characters are better than that. They have Justice, Mercy, Generosity, Faith, Nobility and Hope.

>>52141580
You mean the Puella one?

I want to apply to it but after the app thread got deleted last time I don't want to risk it.

>>52141568
/pfg/ drooling over her boob size is what.

>>52141580
>guy originally says he's taken the monster rape elements out of the game in order to focus on the corruption instead

>game pitch happens, it's rapists and ravagers

>>52141580
He posted the full setting idea and people rightfully called it out on being creepy rape fuel and the GM kept digging the hole from there.

>>52141605
i guess thats a thing sure.

She's still very obviously an aromantic character

>>52141567
I only applied Cody to HV because I got shot down from dragons before I even had a chance.

Did try to rewrite as much as I could while still keeping the fundamentals of the character story but eh. Recycling is recycling.

Plus I figured I probably wouldn't have gotten along with Eagle anyway because the way he hype posted about the applications here.

>>52141610
tfw interested in monster rape but not corruption

>>52141566
Generally, yes. But they get called fuckboys anyway because anything even remotely anime triggers people something fierce

>>52141580
>literally said you don't get in if you build a character who doesn't want to get raped.

>>52141600
>Not knowing that victory goes to those with courage.

>>52141635
>taking shitposts in /pfg/ seriously.

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What are the options for forceful character replacement? Say he breaks his leg, badly, and can no longer fight for the rest of his life. When such even should happen, at negative points, accordingly to a table of criticals, as an alternative to dying...?

>>52141566
i want to make Basara someday.

>>52141569

She's not even an existing character, I bet Eagle deleted her app.

>>52141581

Honestly that's mostly due to the piss-poor explanations Eagle gave for her being as she was, when people recommended alterations she was significantly improved.

Honestly, I would've preferred Amalthea over Onryou if not simply because she's a dedicated healer in a party of meatsticks.

>>52141649
she's still an annoying pregnancy fetish.

>>52141637

You need more than just courage to be a man.

Dogs have courage.

>>52141525
>Anriposting

>>52141654

Aaaand? Onryou is a Big Girl fetish, Jolly has a thing for brawler girls.

>>52141582
Sorry that I write too much but I am aspiring to actually make published works outside of my shitty weaboo OCs. I tend to go overboard with character plotlines.

>>52141630
Same here.

>>52141681
well here's your first fucking piece of advice from an editor

Less is more my dude.

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>>52141663
AND DOGS CAN BE HEROES TOO!

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>>52141717
That's not taiga

How useful is a party dog?

>>52141717

YET DOGS ARE NOT MEN

MONSTERS HAVE COURAGE, WOULD YOU WANT TO MARRY ONE?

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>WOULD YOU WANT TO MARRY ONE?
>not knowing where you are

>>52141711

Holy shit this, whenever a moviefag insists the movie didn't make sense because they had to remove 3+ hours from the movie I just laugh and laugh and laugh.

IF YOU NEED THAT MUCH TIME TO TELL A SIMPLE STORY THAN YOURE DOUGING IT WRONG

>>52141751
I WOULD IF SHE HAD A GRRRRRRRRRRREAT ASS!

>>52141778
The issue is when it's not a simple story.

>>52141681
It wasn't good length. There are other posters who make apps that make use of their length and yours didn't.

>>52141793
>its not a simple story

Your story isn't that complex.

Edit your shit.

Why does everything, even simply things, cost gold coins? Does it make sense?

>>52141749
Is it a shitty memedog?
>>52141778
>Douging it wrong
You shut your mouth, Doug is perfect.

>>52141793
The writing was bad, you didn't make use of the length, it felt like shitty filler. Fucking hell if you want a well written long app in the same game go read Falafel's. His actually uses every bit to get his point across and reads well. Yours didn't.

>>52141793
There's a fine line between complication and convolution.

>>52141805
I'm not him. I didn't even apply to HV. I'm sorry that not everyone just rips off anime so they can just leave a quick blurb that doesn't matter since everyone fapping to the character anyway.

>>52141793

Of course it's a simple goddamn story, and if it's any bit complex than that's where editing comes in.

Lord of the Rings was able to tell a vast epic in 9 hours while the director of Batman v Superman bitches he couldn't tell a "man beats up other man" story in 5 hours.

>>52141812
I am not sure what you mean. A pound of flour costs 1 copper coin.

>>52141833
>I'M SO INTELLECTUAL AND GREAT

kek

>>52141812
A generally agreed upon intermediary form of exchange allows for indirect trade. If you want my apples but I do not want your orange, how do we trade? Fiat currency solves this problem in a rather elegant manner.

Just don't tell a leftie because they'll get angry.

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>>52141362
None of them.

Cease this at once.

Cease all of this at once. This isn't even about the system anymore, is it?

There's nothing left but this endless celebrity slavering, is there?

I want to go back. I want to go back to before this began. To before the memes overtook the actual purpose of this place.

>>52141823

Who are some characters in *any* game that, you think, made excellent use of their backstory space to tell a story? Are there any users who seem to "get" it?

>>52141833
The thing is there were other apps, even long apps, there were well written besides his. His was just shit and used its length for nothing.

>>52141861
Honestly I don't even think backstory is important.

>>52141861
Why are you constantly trying to start up a circle-jerk around someone?

>>52141861
Cancer Elf. Next question.

>>52141362
I only come to these threads for the cheesecake :^)

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>>52141747
But that is taiga. Have you not seen GGG?

My GM refuses to allow his NPC bargain with me or my character. He only allows me to bring down the value of object once.

>>52141844

He's saying gold coins should be worth more.

As much as I hate his other policies, GRRM understands how valuable valuable metals were in the olden days. A suit of full plate armor costs 100 gold dragons, and a gold coin could feed you for a year.

>Opening line of my back story
>Benjamin Moore was born at an extremely young age.

Rate it /pfg/.

>>52141907
its shit

>>52141875

Because I like causing popularity contests on /pfg/, sowing disorder and petty arguments.

Backstory is actually irrelevant

What matters is personality.

Can a player makes the setting indirectly grittier just with his backstory?

>>52141907
its great

>>52141927
>petty

>>52141853
Gold is the opposite of fiat currency, dipshit.

>>52141938
falafel is among us!

>>52141853
Gold generally is not a fiat currency, since as a precious metal, it has value unto itself. "Fiat currency" is something that only has value because the state says so, independent of any actual worth. USD is a fiat currency because a dollar bill is just a dollar bill - the only reason it has any value is because US government has decreed that it does. This in contrast to non-fiat currencies, like dollar used to be - that is, the dollar was worth money because the US treasure guaranteed that it would pay a certain amount of silver for one dollar.

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>>52141861
I'm still surprised the 3 paragraph mental diarrhea I shat out for an app in dragons 2 got the praise it did from reviewanon. I probably should have spent some time reworking a paragraph so it expanded more on personality and thought process like the guy said, but... Well... It was fun to write and makes me want to revisit it at some point.

>>52141902
You forget that magic actually exists

>>52141935
>backstory is irrelevant
Go fuck yourself. If someone's backstory never comes up its the hallmark of an, at best, mediocre GM.

Backstory should convey and explain personality and tell you WHY THE FUCK THE CHARACTER IS GOING ON THE ADVENTURE. Without a backstory how the fuck do you explain why the character is there, how he got there, and why he is going on their adventure?

I throw him to the ground, and I break his legs.

>new apps for the Ruse Cruise
>Reviewanon hasn't reviewed them yet

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>>52141860
Remember, anon.

Whenever you brought up DHB or 2hu's name in something completely unrelated, you were complicit in what /pfg/ has become today.

Whenever you posted about how much you wanted a game that pandered to your fetishes, you were complicit in what /pfg/ has become today.

Whenever you spent time writing about how you wanted two characters in a game you weren't even in to fuck each other, you were complicit in what /pfg/'s become today.

Whenever you 'ironically' posted about how you wanted to marry a kitsune shota, you were complicit in what /pfg/'s become today.

Whenever you decided that /pfg/ was the best place to talk about your shitty game, you were complicit in what /pfg/'s become today.

Look around you, buddy. This is your fault.

>>52141967
I literally don't even care about backstory

I care about a character's personality far more. How they mesh and react to events is far more important

Backstory is simply a means to that

>>52142016
I have done none of this.

What was my sin?

>>52142016
>implying I did of that
>implying I don't long for the days of water balloons and wrist-mice

>>52141967
>Without a backstory how the fuck do you explain why the character is there, how he got there, and why he is going on their adventure?
He's being paid by the Adventurer's Guild to be there. He got there by walking. He's going on an adventure cause the Adventurer's Guild pays him to go on adventures.

>>52141967
>Backstory should convey and explain personality and tell you WHY THE FUCK THE CHARACTER IS GOING ON THE ADVENTURE. Without a backstory how the fuck do you explain why the character is there, how he got there, and why he is going on their adventure?

Who the fuck cares tho?
Am I really going to read all that shit by you or play the god damned game?

>>52142016
Except you're describing things I never did.

I've just been standing here, on the edge of the crater.

>>52142040

>Adventurer's Guild

No such thing.

>>52142056
why not

>>52142036
Failing to stop it.

>>52142052
So you're NUCLEAAAAAAR?

>>52142047
With that attitude? Almost certainly neither.

>>52141860
>>52142016
This is a hell we chose. We are in a prison and are our own jailers. At the crux of fate, the crossroads of destiny, we chose memes. WE CHOSE WRONG.

>>52142036
Failing to stop it.

How do I encourage my fellow players to roleplay?

>>52142060
That's like saying everyone is guilty for the Holocaust by failing to stop Hitler from personally gassing over 60,000,000,000,000,000 innocent Jew babies.

>>52142036
Failing to stop it.

>>52142060
I tried anon. I really did. I tried reporting it. I tried starting discussions about mechanics. Lore. Settings. Homebrew. I tried it all.

I'm just a man, anon. I'm a man, and I'm tired. I can't beat this, anon. I just can't.

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>>52142016
>>52142052
>>52142064
>tfw feeling a phantom pain

We were the monsters all along.

>>52141860
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

>>52142068
I don't get it, are you trying to decide for me?

>>52142079
Confront them with equal level Childlike Halfling Gunslingers with Named Bullets.

>>52142079
By engaging them in rollplay.

>>52142036
Failing to stop it.

>>52142106
This is hell anon. We're all here to suffer.

>>52142016
>do none of these things
>tell people who do these things to fuck off
>nothing changes
>give up and grab a snack to watch it burn

your anger gives me life

>>52142107
No, I'm just pointing out that you'll find it really hard to get anyone to GM for you if you refuse to write any kind of backstory for your character.

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>tfw your Barbarian drops to 2 CHA from a touch of idiocy

You have to go to the leper street.

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>>52142056
>he doesn't have an Adventurer's Guild in his setting!

>>52141823
Honestly, I will admit most of it was shitty filler I could have better conveyed interpersonally with the DM better.

I felt I needed to have more preface on why the character was coming to whatever setting whatever campaign I was applying to took place in. Only the synopsis and the final paragraph of the backstory really mattered, the rest was just me being anxious about not having enough pre-campaign story to have potential RP hooks and sidestories later. But not all DMs are into adding in content playing off their PCs' backstories. That's fine too.

>>52142122
Ain't mad, just amused at all the HOW COULD THIS HAVE POSSIBLY HAPPENED anons.

>>52142098
Anon, I'm already a demon.

>>52142036
Failing to stop it

>>52142085

Israel certainly agrees with that view.

Remember the six million, Goy.

Why were we born? Why do we die? Is this all that there is? /pfg/, why do you play when it had already come to this?

>/pfg/ is shit
Personally, I blame /pol/.

>>52142205
>why do you play
So I can try and fuck characters I find attractive
it's not working out so well

>>52141362

Hell sure is pleasant this time of year.

>>52142128
Never said I didn't write any backstory period, the ones I "write" are very simple concepts any good GM can work with. Not a manuscript of tripe about how I got bullied into adventuring.

IRONBANG INVASION IN WEEKS GET HYPE

>>52142218
>always blaming the /pol/ boogieman
>when they always blame da joo boogieman
Are we no better?

So, I guess organized crimes has been a thing since the antiquity. However, were they ever called Thieves guilds?

>>52142218
As much as I would like to blame them, it's the lewdfags that brought us to this point.

We were doing good for a while too. At worst the RotJR fags would try to start a circle jerk about their shit, but it was pretty contained.

Who would have thought that the worst thing to happen to /pfg/ would be a chance to actually play Pathfinder?

>>52142218
It's actually /d/ and /a/ this time.

>>52142205
I don't even play Pathfinder any more, I just open /pfg/ out of habit, really. (I've been tempted by a few of the roll20 games, but it bugs me that roll20 wants your real name when you register, so I haven't done that yet)

>>52142261
I just put in an alias and it worked fine.

>>52142261
You can just make shit up my dude. They don't give a fuck if you call yourself Biggus Dickus.

Remember when you were never ever supposed to put your realname out on the net?

>>52142261
>not using a fake name.

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>>52142170
Honestly, I unironically enjoy some shitty things, but the fact that we've come this far only serves to remind me that there are indeed people with worse taste than me in this world.

>>52142261
>he doesn't fakename it up

my little anon can't be this dumb

>>52141891
>TITANIUM HEAD DRIVER!

>>52142293
>>52142281
>>52142276
>>52142271
Why, as a matter of fact I do realize that I can put fake info into the form. But it still bugs me.

How come so little apps for hells rebels?

>>52142276
What's so funny about Biggus Dickus?

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>>52141362
>Amalthea, Vessel of Rebirth, The All-Mother, Womb of Heroes

>Goddess of Fertility, Reincarnation, Consensual Sex and Caring Parents.

>>52142313
Fair enough.

>>52142325
scared off by /pol/shit or not wanting to advance the liberal agenda, your choice

>>52142325
Because it's a game asking for memes but not nearly as open as Ruse Cruise.
Why so few for Celestial Tournament? Is it PvP?

It was me.

I'm sorry everyone, it was me.

I was the one who spurred fetish discussions. I was the one who would start petty arguments over games or characters. I was the one who sprinkles boring mechanical discussion during the shittalk to encourage more shittalk.

All for revenge. All because I argued with you chuckleheads on a social justice issue and you frustrated me with your answer.

I want all of you to burn.

>>52141362
I'd worship Amalthea, she seems both pleasant and somewhat lewd.

>>52142340
What do liberals and /pol/ have to do with that?


>>52142341
>its a game asking for memes

What the fuck does this even mean?

>>52142331
>consensual sex and caring parents
My own parents are supposedly a case of that. The first accident had them go "oh shit, a kid" and shotgun wedding. 3 years later I was the better actually-planned-out model, and 2 years after that our younger sister too. They've been together 30 years, older sister basically sent them into responsibility-overdrive as soon as they found out.

>>52142251
dude before the lewdfags /pfg/ was garbage

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tfw write two backstories for hv

tfw end up using the character you've written the least about because she'd interact better with the surrounding characters.

odd feel

>>52142369

The DM wants to play up the preppy hipsters saving the world tone of the campaign, but he does not want it to become a huge joke.

He's asking us to unironically make hipsters without being parody.

>>52142369
It's literally asking you to apply with a political meme.

>>52142341
>Is it PvP
This.

Cause it's gonna boil down to whoever can make the most broken 9th level caster.

>>52142402
Fuck, that's hard-mode right there.
I don't think I could pull that off, but good luck to the rest of ya.

>>52142369
"I literally can't even" is a phrase that /pol/sters use to mock trigger happy SJW types.

What I don't get about these anons logic
>>52142340
>>52142341
Is that ruse cruise has an image of trump overlooking fucking Mecca converted into a skyscrapper. I don't think /pol/shit is really the issue here.

>>52142331

Oh my golly gosh who CARES.

>>52142404
>Cause it's gonna boil down to whoever can make the most broken 9th level caster.
PvP has a way different optimization point if you don't have prep time. 9th level casters die really easily to PvP specialized builds. 9th level casters without several rounds to buff themselves are extremely vulnerable to specialized PvP builds.

Particularly Wizards and Sorcerers.

>>52142402
In addition, Cheliax is awesome and wanting to play in a plot that undermines them is shit

>>52142400
same honestly

>>52142251
I'm not a lewdfag and they're easy as fuck to ignore since they just circlejerk to climax and then scurry off. /pol/fags are worse since they never shut up but it only lasts a thread at worst.

/pfg/ is fine, the shitposting isn't at any level near where it's disruptive most of the time. Fact is that most Pathfinder players have enough of a cursory understanding of Pathfinder that we don't need to sit around and argue over rulings or tiers all day. We'll talk about Monster Hunter's Handbook when it comes out, we'll probably discuss some Ironfang Invasion in spoilers, and then it's back to waiting for the next release with whatever inbetween. I'd like to have less memes but whatever, talk about what makes a good group composition or character background is perfectly fine as I see it.

>Read Heroes of the High Court.
>Has the iconic swashbuckler on the cover
>Has a paladin archetype that lets them be swashbuckler, but 0 for the actual swashbuckler

Fuck.

>>52142402
>Not a huge joke
Shit. I guess I'll scrap my app.

>>52141362

I want Amalthea to bless me so i can give birth to triplets Then immedatly bless me to give birth to triplets again! and again!

>>52142455

Cheliax sucks, it was significantly cooler as the Aroden-fanboys who still conquered shit as asshole imperialists.

So, serious question, how would one build a mute arcane spellcaster? As in, unable or unwilling to speak/make vocal noises, but he still needs to cast spells.
Do I just need to find spells that have no vocal components?

>>52142470
On the bright side, you can finally play a Swashbuckler that isn't a liability with the new Bravo.

>>52142402
Well my comically suicidal suicide bomber is out of the question.

>>52142404
It's level 7 and combat, plus there are votes. And the only two applications so far are a bushi stalker and some monk/inquisitor multiclass.

>>52142497
You play a sphere caster and don't take Verbal casting.

>>52142497
Isn't there a mute Oracle curse?

>>52142514
>tfw I still don't know how to into spheres

>>52142341
PvP and the fact that it is a literal popularity contest.

Is it worth it to go Ironcaster?

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So what's up with avowed? I heard there was a subpact for Self coming, but no mention of WHEN and it's not in any document.

>>52142530
What don't you get, dude?

>>52142545
Just writing out the character sheet, I guess, like, I can kinda understand how spherecasting works, but trying to get it on paper hurts my tiny brain for whatever reason.

>>52142544
Grab a seat and get in line behind the people waiting on the "CHUMS WITH THE DUNGEON KEEPER" pact/archetype.

>>52142538
Why not just play a 6th caster?

Record of Lodoss War or the Slayers?

>>52142582
SLAYERS

>>52142346

She is pleasant, and lewd.

>>52142582
Ozanari Dungeon

>>52142582
Dungeon Meshi.

Do you have to worship one god, or can you pray for each according what you need at the moment? Does it make sense to worship a pantheon?

>>52142582

Berserk.

>>52142646
godclaw is pretty much an deformed amalgamation of a pantheon that somehow still grants deific abilities

so i saw you can worship whoever whenever

>>52142646

Well somepeople might single out one god as their Patron deity kinda like saints, their go to guy or gal. But sometimes something is outside their perview and you go their temple to ask for shit.

>>52142646
Mechanically, you pick one god and determine your benefits from it.

In character, there's no reason someone can't worship multiple gods. The Pathfinder pantheon for the most part isn't very competitive.

>>52142646
In any pantheon, it's actually how that works, generally the only exception being particularly zealous clerics (and/or paladins for fiction).

Basically, That's the entire fucking POINT of a pantheon. The god of fishing is the one you give offerings to when you go fish if you want a good haul. If you want to up your chances of wooing that maiden, you ask the god of love. Those who want to come home from the next war are praying to the goddess of war. And when wronged the god of justice is there for you.

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>>52142582
Slayers, easily.

>>52142558
>want to try out Avowed
>don't want to inflict playtest shit on people for a full campaign
>can't find any short games

just

>>52142582

Guin Saga.

>>52142582
Rune Soldier Louie

>>52142582
Those who hunt elves

>>52142737
Playtest stuff in campaigns is fine. That's what playtests are /for/, if they didn't think it was in a fit state to play, they wouldn't have made it public.

Avowed caused panic because FFS had to bite the bullet and make some big changes that affected a lot of builds, but that was a one-off.

>>52142755
My elf of Underdark origins.

>>52142646
In Pathfinder terms? You can worship a whole pantheon. You can even do so as a cleric, though unless otherwise noted, you mechanically only devote yourself to one god's cult based on personal needs or philosophy.

However, most people take a specific god as their patron, because that's the god they need the most. Farmers and Erastil, gamblers and Calistria, merchants and Abadar, etc. Even if they have to make offerings to other gods, they just get a worshipper of that god to be their intermediary rather than join the other cult.

Would you say a Daoine Sidhe can consider themselves an Elf in terms of, "I want to become an Elven god?"

Is the Celestial Tournament a Tournament to become a god?

>Not interested in any open games
Maybe some sucker will run Ironfang Invasion.

>>52142974
I'm pretty sure Achakek would crash the entire event if it was.

>>52143005

What would you make?

Is the Player's Guide out?

>>52143036
Nothing's out yet. I wouldn't know what to make until I got the Player's Guide, I just want a more traditional adventure, Shardwalkers looks like the closest thing in the OP but I'm hesitant to apply until it's closer to deadline.

>>52142974
It's connected to the Starstone somehow.
>>52143013
If you can manage it in one shot you bypass him. It's only if you get partway there first, since he can't target full mortals or full gods.

>>52142776
Yea, it's just frustrating because the upheavel has made people shit bricks over it. I was tempted to bring it up to a GM who mainly stuck to 1pp, but now I'm super wary.

Hamatula strike totally lets you be scorpion with the right weapon, doesn't it?

>>52142928

So, is there an Overgod like Zeus?

>>52143094
There used to be two, Asmodeus and his brother Ihys. And then Asmodeus killed Ihys and stopped being an overgod.

>>52143094

There is no pantheon hierarchy, which I personally think is a great weakness to the setting.

So my celestial tournament planned character is a Goblin Alchemist. I don't even think I need the Gestalt I'm going to dig up an old PvP build I had. The other side with just reinforce it. Or maybe magical child so I can just be the most retarded character I can be.

Time for Grublub, he Lub Lub Lubs you.

>>52143093
>not using your penis as an unarmed piercing weapon

>>52143144
Celestial Tournament isn't gestalt anonski.

>>52143169
Perfect.

>>52143147
>I've got a chest of wonder I've got balls of thunder, I can break right through this wall!

>>52143094
No, the gods are pretty much all doing their own thing. They don't really have a common agenda except for "keep Rovagug locked up."

>>52142344
I feel like you could've gone more Zoom with your IT WAS ME PFG!
THAT ONE TIME YOU POSTED ABOUT KITSUNES AND DIDN'T STOP, I WAS ALL THOSE POSTS!

>>52142582

Slayers.

>>52142776
What changed? I don't really follow a lot of 3pp.

>>52142582
Overlord

>>52143252
>You thought there were 39 other posters in this thread, BUT IT WAS ME! DIO!

>>52143286
It used to allow CHA or CON to hit/damage, or STR to class features and save DCs.

Those were removed and a lot of people had to redo their ability scores.

>>52143144
>goblin in a popularity contest
This guy better be a meme machine.

>>52142582
Old wisdom of /tg/ says that Lodoss War is how GM envisions the game, Slayers is how it actually plays out. Take of that what you will.

>>52142640
Anime
WHEN?
H
E
N
?

>>52143345
He's a magical girl goblin with a head the side of a beach ball. Grublub-chan is gonna share his Lub.

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>>52142582
Shingeki no Bahamut: Genesis

>>52143375
Slayers if you're lucky.
Chances are you end up with a useless paladin, a one-shot sorcerer, a plasterer and a fucking luck-build.

>>52141362
How would I go about creating a dirty cheating scumbag for The Celestial Tournament?

>>52143412
Oh hey, I was just about to say Konosuba.

>>52141639

Irreversable psychological/mental damage.
For spellcasters, having their mana circuits/soul/whatever burn out.
Maiming if you're too poor for regeneration.
Going home and being a family man.

>>52143424
Go for max rerolls. Luck domain/blessing, or Diviner Wizard so you can set your stuff before you get in the fight.

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Why would I ever want to take Shocking Grasp or Burning Hands when I can take Snowball instead?

1d6/level up to 5d6, ranged touch, with a potential Debuff, (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) range

VS

1d4/Level to 5d4, reflex save for half damage, 15 foot range
and
1d6/level to 5d6 in melee range?

>>52143509
>immune to cold damage
>need an AoE
>you're a magus and want to stay in melee

>>52143509
Burning Hands is AOE and resisted less often than snowball.
Shocking Grasp combos with spell combat and is resisted less often than both snowball and burning hands.

>>52143509
the advantage of burning hands is that you force the enemy to roll the dice and thus potentially fail the roll. whereas with snowball it's you potentially failing the roll.

>>52143412
Megumin is a treasure.
As such, should be kept under lock and key in damp abandoned dungeon.

>>52143509
Go read Shocking Grasp and then tell me.
>>52143536
Fire is the most commonly resisted element.

>>52143559
It was, but then bestiaries released around the time of Reign of Winter changed that

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>>52143558
I think you've mistaken her for that useless crusader

>>52143558
>keeping her locked away

Megumin is a walking magic item. She's a 1/day nuke. Give her a way to breath in a bag of holding and dump her in after she blows her load.

>>52143644
Hey, she can nuke more than once per day! You just have to let her suck you dry!

>>52143681
>let her suck you dry

anon, she can't do it herself, you have to suck someone else dry to put it in her

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>>52143644
But you forgot the other thing you do with her anon.

Carry her the right way.
Carry her the fun way.

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>>52143681
>>52143708
Did somebody say mana transfers?

>>52143724
Well yea, you just need somewhere safe to stow her when danger approaches.

>>52142501
>Bravo

I was reasonably happy with daring champion, though getting opportune parry & riposte on the swashadin is good.

Still, godsdamnit, 2+int skill points per level, and no bonus feats will be a pain.

>>52143752
I wish we could have mana transfers in Pathfinder. The closest thing we have are Pearls of Power and that's just lame by itself.

What fucking turbofuck handled the thread switch this time?

Back to app process questions. Was 6 weeks too long? Was 1 week too short? I know lotsa apps would like a review and a 2nd draft.

>>52143861
I'd like to propose a 10-day app period!

>>52143861
I did mine with 2 weeks and got about 10 finished apps by the end, while doing all of the shilling myself. 6 weeks is probably too long, IMO.

>>52143861
Meanwhile for my eberron game I still can't get anyone except for one anon applying for it despite there being two weeks left before the deadline. Oh well.

Best feats for spell DC raising?

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Alright, alight, bright and right. How are you folks doing today? I myself am doing perfectly fine, and I hope you are too.

Today's topic for Blood Mountain game- magical traditions. I need some second opinions on the following ideas for magical traditions

First up, Chemical Magic and Recitation, the two types of magic most commonly used by colonists in the not!Colonies.

>Chemical Magic, somewhat like Mistborn where chemicals must be ingested and expelled from a chemical conduit held in one hand in order to use magic
Drawbacks: Somatic (once), Focus Magic, Center of Power, Draining Magic and Prepared Casting
Boons: Fortified Casting

>Recitation, wherein you must recite complicated strings of magic words in order to use magic, and must have a creature bound to you in order to actually KNOW those words
Drawbacks: Focus Casting, Extended Casting, Verbal Casting, Magical Signs, Skilled Casting (Perform: Oratory), Rigorous Concentration
Boons: Draw Magic, Bound Creature, Easy Focus

Finally, Shamanistic Magic which is used by the natives of the land, which is already represented by the Mysticism tradition. Though I'm tempted to add in the Skilled Casting (Diplomacy) to represent bargaining with the spirits in order to actually work with you. Any thoughts on these? I'm just ironing out ideas for magic so that when I get to how they interact with the setting I have a solid basis for just HOW they work and what their limits are.

>>52143903
Because, 1pp pathfinder has been solved, it has been solved for years and very little new content can change that.

3pp pathfinder has enough content for people to explore and fuck around with without just defaulting to uber charger or divination wizard.

I honestly think a month is fair. It allows the DM to work some shit and the players to get a scathing review and a rewrite.

Does anyone have a link to the Megumin Spheres of Power Build?

>>52143903
Protip: It's cuz you're a shithead.

>>52143907
Persistent Spell.

>>52143933
>>52143933
Just take the overcharge boon

>>52143345

Honestly it sounds like all the meme characters should be posted for a chance at becoming proper gods and goddesses.

>>52143861
I honestly think shorter is better, the issue is finding people and I don't know what sets the difference between the games that manage and the games that don't, but ideally you'd want to get in and out quickly for momentum.

What's shard supposed to be anyways? Stargate or just "the warp is in between the towns"?

>>52143918
>Recitation is literally Anime Magic

wwwwww
Sketching Magic Circles or bust, tbqh

>>52144032
I could agree with the momentum part, however, I think the demand is bigger than the supply. Also, anonreviews are amusing and probly lead to better submissions.

Is Deadly Agility a good feat?

>>52143918
Let people swap out Perform: Oratory for any perform with verbal components. Song should work just as well.

>>52144114
>Is making yourself more SAD good
Yes.

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>>52144101
When the Magic Circle Drawback comes out, I'll consider making a variant of the tradition that must use the magic circles or musical instruments

>>52144124
I'll definitely allow for it, Perform (Sing, Act, Comedy, Oratory) would likely be alright. Though, cracking jokes and shooting lightning is a very silly image to me.

>>52144186
>"Oh man, you're gonna love this punchline! It's quite a shocker!"
>"GOD DAMN IT CARL WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A WAR HERE!"

>>52144186
Roast someone so hard your words create fire.

>>52144197
>"ICE to meet you!"
>"TWENTY FIVE TIMES CARL! TWENTY FIVE TIMES YOU'VE MADE THE SAME JOKE!"

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My shit is going to be stillborn if I cannot get some *useful* input

>>52144217
>"It's time to get rolling!"
>"YOU CRUSHED THE HALFLING WITH A BOULDER, CARL."

>>52144223
ROBO
WAIFU

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>>52144197
>>52144217
>>52144230
You bastards

This is canon now.

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>>52144205
Keep roasting someone so hard you light their funeral pyre.

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>>52144243
Well I know what I'm going to play when the time comes.

Carl

>>52144223

What input do you want, Senpai?

>>52144083
A bunch of meteroids with atmospheres and biospheres, connected by a highway dimension.

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>>52144271
And I know what I'm going to play.

>>52144299
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4147195M5RA

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>>52144205
>>52144266
Casting with Intimidate? Or Perform Comedy?

>>52144299
>fuck magic
>shits magic everywhere himself

>>52144279
Is Iron Gods, viable? I am not a /pf/ master. I dabble. Expect heavy elements from outside systems. Clue me in on app processes, what do you fags want? 3pp? I've got Legendary/Jolly + a few others. PoW, SoP..probly not. Can I make it work?

>>52143918
> Draining Magic
Ouch.

>>52144353
Psionics?

>>52144367

I mean, it does allow for Con-based casting with Fortified magic, and you CAN heal it unlike burn, so I don't view it as necessarily a bad thing. It's more to emphasize that you don't need to be smart or charismatic or wise to use the magic, you just need to be super tough.

>>52144337
Open up with Perform (Comedy), roll Intimidate to stop them from making their own Perform (Comedy) check.

>>52144283
Okay. Who lives in those, and also how do you translate the touhou classes to pathfinder? Just reduce the required/base ranks by 3 for every skill and combine things like "it's based on listen" into perception?

Like, some things are "at 13 ranks you get this" so, that would become at 10 ranks in PF right?

>>52144347
Tis not magic but purity of will

>>52144353

>Is Iron Gods viable?

Yes, it's a pretty good AP even if played directly from the book.

>Clue me in on app processes, what do you fags want? 3pp? I've got Legendary/Jolly + a few others. PoW, SoP..probly not. Can I make it work?

Hmm... Honestly, this is kind of a weird one. Numeria lends itself to techno-barbarians more than bullshit high fantasy Ye Olde Europe tropes that are especially common in Path of War, so I would suggest saying that 3pp is open ONLY IF the player can adequately explain just what the fuck their abilities come from.

An Avowed who can launch magic out of his fingertips due to the nanites coursing through his veins will be received a lot better than the Avowed that has some bullshit connection to a Nymph that never shows up in the story.

As for tone? I suggest going full pulp with this one. Iron Gods is a very, very silly campaign when viewed in the right light, all it takes is finding that light.

>>52144329
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/6/64/Anti_cast_03.mp3

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>>52144371
Yeah, most DSP included. Still working my way through a couple shits.

>>52144404
I would love to include PoW, at the very least, but it's cherry to me.

>>52144413
So, I'll finally be able to make use of my collection of cyborg waifu pictures? O:

>>52144353
Iron Gods is one of the better adventure paths actually.

However, it was basically written by a bunch of people who think the ENEMIES you fight should have star-trek levels of techno-bullshit going for them, but that the PLAYERS should not be allowed to even pick a piece of it up without completely and utterly raping their character build up the ass with a sideways cactus covered in pure capsaicin, so even for a numerian android the rewards tend to be "timeworn" (aka "it has handful of charges left, cannot be recharged and will probably explode in your hand") and level-balanced around the wealth-by-level using prices that basically doubled every aspect of the item.

Basically, they go "no no. a laser pistol, with its 1d8 fire damage, costs 10 000 GP, AND uses 500gp batteries, one per ten shots. So that's a high level item reward and they should feel glad"

>>52144404
>An Avowed who can launch magic out of his fingertips due to the nanites coursing through his veins
Isn't that just Nanite sorcerer. I'm pretty sure that's anything but an Avowed at least.

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>>52144384
>>52144367
>>52144337
Alright, I've added Perform (Act, Comedy, Sing) and Bluff, Intimidate, and Diplomacy to the list of skills you can use for Recitation magic.

>>52144404
Magitech Archetypes would probably work well for this, it's LG and has a machine kineticist element that deals with nanos and such.

>>52144441
Put'em up

>>52144404
One common one we see often on here is the "tech warsoul", where someone uses discipline weapon shapes, or a symbiot slayer, or a spheres armorist, possibly fluffed as nanotech or as the obliterator virus to reproduce tech guns without the problem of it costing more for a laser pistol than for a +2 adaptive magic bow and a thousand fucking arrows.

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>thinking of applying to Puella Librum
>dont know what character i should even think about doing
>spent a good amount of time trying to figure what to play and what kind of backstory
>realize i know nothing of the setting so i cant even get started

>>52141362
Holy shit I want to breed with that.

>>52144444
Yeah, I'm working on that. Poaching whatever I can.

>>52144444
>everything is doubled
christ, even the basic gear is fucking doubled at first, because the first weapons a martial would need to pick up are going to be Adamantine in order to deal with all the bullshit the AP throws at you.

>the first fucking book REQUIRES YOU, if you want to not get fucked, to pool your cash to buy the Construct Bane Dagger

>>52144353
>Is Iron Gods, viable? I am not a /pf/ master. I dabble.

I haven't played IG, but one of my good friends has. According to her, it's the most complicated and mechanically intensive AP ('cept Wrath), but also the most interesting and rewarding. If you're not a master PF GM at the start of the campaign, you will be by the end, provided you're willing to put in the effort.

>Clue me in on app processes, what do you fags want? 3pp? I've got Legendary/Jolly + a few others. PoW, SoP..probly not.

Legendary + Jolly is an excellent basis for a game. I personally love me some PoW, but I can see why you wouldn't want to include it. I'd suggest allowing class templates (for 6th level Initiating) and the Martial Training feats, to allow people to get *some* maneuvers, without opening the floodgates.

>Can I make it work?

The only limit is you Anon! I believe in you!

>>52144460
That would be *spoilers* o;

>>52144459
Is it in the trove?

>>52144444
Anon that imagery... what the hell

>>52144478

Get in line.

>>52144459
Add-ons from Leg are cool.

>>52144484
I mean if you're level 3 by that point, there's some maneuvers that let you ignore Hardness, but yeah constructs are annoying as fuck.

>>52144471
And now you know why people here shitpost about it.

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>>52144469
Secrets of the Iron Titan

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>>52144509
>assuming PoW is allowed

Anon, it's not written for PoW and that subsystem is not nearly as prevalent as it is in /pfg/

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>>52144455
On second thought, how would one represent Voodoo within Spheres of Power? My first thoughts are just taking Mysticism and adding on Draining Magic, but I'm coming up at a loss for what to do with voodoo.

>>52144389
A whole mess of people. Lots of Humans scattered around, a big dwarven city built out of the ruins of a Promethean Suncaster Complex (buncha nuke silos ontop of eachother), elves living under a big tree in the middle of a desert, stuff like that.

>>52144503
Are you running an Iron Gods game?

... can I join? I love me some techno-fantasy bullshit.

>>52144484
I know plenty of parties that got through the first book just fine without it. It's been a while but I remember my party got through the first book with a Human Slayer and a Barbarian/Fighter, Dorf Ninja, Dorf Cleric, and a Warforged(Homebrew/Port) Wizard.

Only thing that gave us "trouble" was this one Enforcer bot that grabbed someones Earth breaker.

>>52144480
Forrestfire Studios had their patreon preview for their new tech system rules up a good few weeks ago.

It seemed to not get much attention on pfg.

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>>52144580
Can you tell us anything about it?

>>52144580
Probably because it was Pateron exclusive and we're some cheap motherfuckers.

Post it, and we can talk about it.

>>52144556
>'ve got Legendary/Jolly + a few others. PoW, SoP..probly not.
>>52144353
Anon, come on.

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>>52144564
Considering it, sweetheart.

>>52144580
Linky?

>>52144615
Anon for fuck's sake I was responding to >>52144444 originally. The shit the AP throws at you is almost entirely trivial for an initiator, I was talking about as-written expectations. If you're running it for PoW, then you're going to be rewriting it anyway.

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>>52144615
Man, I told you, I would love to, but I don't have any xp with those bolt-ons

>>52144601
It was still a bit barebones last I checked, I'm guessing the heavy lastminute reworks on Avowed 1 are eating up a lot of time.

Laid down the fundamentals of the tech system, and then rules on power sources and laser weapons.
Seemed solid enough, but yet to feature anything exciting enough to pull me into it, and currently in a 'learn all this extra stuff to use weapons with slightly different stats' phase.

>>52144662
Not me? Eh?

>>52144580
Post it!!

>>52144642
>>52144728
I'm not a patreon supporter either, the preview was linked to me in trust by someone else who does support it so I don't think I specifically should

>>52144561
>nuke silos
Is that why there's an anon asking about the nuke discipline? that thing is crazy AoE.

I guess there's some tech in the setting then, just, the average peasant still uses a hoe because a tractor would be hella expensive?

What's the best defensive domain?

>>52144759
>What's the best defensive domain?

Mountains are pretty defensible.

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>>52144704
Hopefully Forrest can make it a single subsystem that everything else runs off of. Stuff like that can get problematic otherwise.

>>52144625
I really hope you do. A friend was running it, but the game died before I could really get into playing pic related. It's so rare to play in a game with proximity to the realm of the mammoth lords.

I do have other concepts (including a neat android soulknife) but really I just want a damn game that treats with technology.

>>52144753
Send it to the cleaner. I may need this shit to proceed.

>>52144625
I tried to run Iron Gods before. My only reccomendation is either redo book one with a lot of DM fiat and new NPCs or skip the first book entirely because it is hell trying to give the party leads on what to do next without outright pushing them down the god damn hill. Things get less painful in the later books.

>>52144558
Do you actually know anything about voodoo?

>>52144795
It's not even a pdf, it's a google doc in its early stages and probably missing over half the content I estimate is intended to be in the final product.

>>52144771
Cleric domains, anon.

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>>52144805

Wouldn't Voodoo be song-based Alchemy?

>>52144803
imo, 1st lvl starts eat shit, but I like the intro. Planning on bumping it up.

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>>52144805
Honestly no, but I'm always willing to learn so that I can at least /claim/ some measure of accuracy. Got any good resources on it?

>>52144825
Do I really need to search for it on my own?! Give it up.

>>52144849
Let me see if I can dig up the ones I looked at while doing research for a PTU game.

>>52144841
That's definately a good idea. It wasn't the party's lack of mechanical skill that was the problem when I ran it. It's that they needed me to railroad them so hard to get them to go to any objective until we were level 7 and they had a clear objective that... Went off the rails of the campaign anyways.

>>52144758
Nah, all of that stuff is thousands of years old and the people maintaining it do so by rote and don't really understand the technology they're looking at. Shinto-esque priests maintain solar power (Suncatchers) structures in their shrines to keep what little tech there is charged and maintained. Tractors exist in some places (typically regions where there WAS farming before the world broke), but not in other places; largely maintained by the priests who run the Suncatchers, though in a Breadbasket Shard most anyone who farms would be a lay minister (both for knowledge of maintenance, and to use the relics).

I'm not gonna say no one makes tech anymore, because their are places that do (those are really rare, though), or that no one understands tech... but the ones who do often actively suppress knowledge of the more dangerous bits.

Probably gonna use Suncaster for laser rather than nuke, now that I think on it.