/hhg/ aka Horus Heresy General

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Finished some tacticals today. What have you been working on this week?

>>52109967
The fuck happened to that guy's jaw?

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Almost finished, just need to clean the backpack mouldlines

>>52109967
always though these images were pretty ridiculous since it's not the drugs causing half the symptoms, it's immunodeficiency causing viruses like HIV and Herpes along with malnutrition.

>>52110063
Also I claim this thread for the XVIII

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I know the scheme's a bit off, but how reasonable would it to have an Iron Hands force like this?

>>52110020
I stripped a boxnought so I can field them as mortis dreads.

Now I need a bigger container so I can dump an entire land raider in for stripping.

>>52109967
>tfw you get into OP

>>52109861
>How much of an army is that without having to add extra bits?

About everything you listed.

I'd really invest in some bits. Get 3 extra MkIV legs or, say, DA robed legs. Put the spare MkIV torsos on them and use them for Apothecaries. Make 1 MkIV blob and 1 MkIII blob. Put apothecaries in them. Get extra missile launchers and make a MkIV heavy support squad. Get some extra plasma guns and make a plasma gun support squad with the 3rd apothecary. Give them a Rhino.

Make a 5 man Tartaros squad in a Phobos (or tartaros praetor with a tartaros bodyguard) and a 6 man Cataphractii squad on foot. Alternatively convert one cataphractii into a primus medicae and put him into a unit of 5 for some extra survivability. Get a spare kheres and make the Contemptor into a Mortis variant.

If you don't plan on using the Custodes, Sisters and named BoP characters, sell them to fun your bits purchases.

>>52110093
Yeah, in addition to what the drugs were cut with.

>>52110095
Red bolter's bit weird.

Don't get triggered if everyone assumes you are playing unfinished iron warriors

>>52110093
Krokodil does.

>>52110095
Should be oilier.

>>52110063
>cleaning moldlines AFTER painting
Wut.

>>52110095
Hey knightanon, nice imperial fists.

In all seriousness it looks like an iron warrior picked up a dark angels bolter.

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>>52110020
Weather cooperated and I managed to get well over half of what's in the pic primed and ready for paint, currently fucking about with test models. I should have some pics of the test models by next thread since my phone's screen replacement gets done today.

For those who didn't see the write up when it was originally posted, both 10-blocks and the 3 5-blocks on the left, plus terminators are magnetized. the box in front is all the weapon swaps.

>>52110182
First time with green stuff, I only bought it after having painted them

>>52110266
>fixing moldlines with greenstuff

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>>52110020
Making slow progress on my vet squad

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>>52110197

>>52110266
generally you just use a scraper or the edge of a knife. if it's only the one squad I wouldn't worry about it, just keep them in the back of whatever squad they're used in, and pay more attention during assembly next time.

>>52110308
A Dangels player? You're rare as fuck around here.

>>52110308
MkII legs are just getting skinnier by the day. 70's bell-bottoms > 80's cocaine fueled skinny jeans.

>>52110308
I like the style. I'd play DA for the aesthetic but the fluff and autismo primarch ruined it for me.

>>52110355
>implying that the fluff you don't like is canon
Doing it wrong.

So I have armor autism but not bolted autism

How butt hurt will people be if I source my combi weapons and some of my plasmaguns from stern guard and tac squads

>>52110197
Imperial Fists are yellow, aren't they?

>>52110395
Depends how lenient your definition is.

>>52110379
not very triggered, AFAIK there's a 40k bolter somewhere in one of the books, I'm using one of the ultramarine honorguard metal bolters on one of my tacs.

>>52110337
>>52110292
The damn backpack is in two pieces, thus I try to fix their shitty design with green stuff

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I have one of these lying around. Should I make a loyalist DG praetor out of him? file off the crux and swap storm bolter for a volkite charger.

Would gold trim look out of place on iron hands?

Planning to do a normal black scheme with silver trim, and then use gold trim on artificer armor.

>>52109861
You should be able to stretch it out to 2000 points if you take the Pride of the Legion rite of war and run the tacticals as vets or support squads. But footsloggers do poorly in 30k.

>>52110395
It's a joke; a guy here known as knightanon tried recreating the early Crusade IF scheme (gray with just a bit of yellow) but with bronze instead of yellow, so they looked like Iron Warriors.

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>>52110473
>footsloggers do poorly in 30k

>>52110152
This'll sound silly, but are you suggesting more Nuln Oil?

>>52110340
Yeah, I've been following the lore and stuff since the beginning but only just got enough disposable income to justify some toy soldiers. I've got enough unpainted plastic and resin for 1500 point ZM games. Just need to assemble and paint them.

>>52110345
Yeah they do look pretty silly, I do like the segmented legs though, look proper knightly and match DAs quite well.

>>52110355
Thanks, desu I like the fact that the Lion is actually flawed with no way to make it someone else's fault, can't blame turbo autism on the emperor, nails in the brain or tzeentch. Plus I like the fluff, outwardly they are are sort of imperial fist templars: the legio,n but in reality they have more than a bit of alpha legion in them.

How many mk6 suits can you build with a tac box?

>>52110419
In the book with Salamanders. An Ultima pattern combi-flamer is shown.

>>52110598
About 2 or 3. Better to splurge on the FW kit, what lemon you making?

>>52110598
There's 4 legs, 3 heads, 2 torsos and 1 pair of pads. From what I can tell, at least.

What do you guys use for combi-plas/melta on your termis? Ive been filing and cutting plasma pistols to fit where the second bolter would go.

>>52110672
I'm putting my marksman vets in mk6 armor. Mk6 is quieter and in short supply so it'd make sense for out flanking vets to have it.

>>52110674
The pads I can make easily enough by taking mk7 pads and putting studs on them.

And since Bop and BaC apparently come with extra torsos I can put those on the mk6 legs. Maybe not the mk3 ones, but mk4 should look fine.

>>52110980
Sounds pretty good, what legion you making?

Oh, and I only need 4 suits of it for now anyway. Since the Sgt is rocking artificerd up mk2 armor. I can make one of them bare headed or give him a mk4 helmet maybe if theres only 3 mk6 helmets.. Layer on I might want more veys.

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>>52110020
>will he ever stop

>>52111063
Iron hands. My tac squads are all mk3, tac support is mk4. All my sets are in mk2 artificer. Don't currently have any heavy weapon squads because I use tanks and dreads for that.

>>52110865
Plastic phobos bolter can easily replace the left side with a plasma pistol. Trim the coils a little to fit the lug on top of the right side that slots into the left side of the combi-bolter and it's golden. Even the back of the pistol fits nicely with the back of the phobos and the muzzle reaches the front of the bolter. I'm sure you could try and use inferno pistols and hand flamers for it as well, but I haven't tried. You can always do a cast of the BaC cataphractii captain's combi-melt piece and put them on phobos combi-bolters.

Another quick and dirty conversion for combis is just to use a storm bolter or CSM combi-bolter and cut half of the muzzle off. This empty space can be used to slot various muzzles. Combi-plasma can be made from a legion plasma pistol muzzle or using space muzzles from BaC MkIV combi-weapon parts. For the storm bolter I suggest the SM captain/sternguard one with the single magazine or a drum magazine ones with a single sided drum. To it'll look like there's just a single bolter barrel being fed. The twin-magazine and double-sided drum looks off.

Haven't played around with the tigrus combi, but the boxlike look of it would suggest that a storm bolter style conversion should work equally well, if you cover the exposed barrel and ejection port, and replace the drum with maybe a fuel canister.

>inb4 "Stop being a poorfag and sink £8.50 per combi-weapon from FW."

>>52111036
MkIV pads are easier to convert, since the trim is so much thinner and they got studded pads.

>mk4 should look fine

MkIV and VI torsos are totally different.

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>>52110865

>>52111135
I know they're different but what I mean is that mk3 armor is totally unsuited for outflanking while mk4 would be fine. Mk6 is rare like mk8 is today and it's not uncommon to see just a few pieces of it rather than a full suit.

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>>52111179
FTFY

>>52111186
>Mk6 is rare

How so? They were prototypes before the Heresy and complete suits and their production capabilities were evacuated from Mars on the outset of the Heresy. Loyalists got them from there, traitors from Alpha Legion.

>it's not uncommon to see just a few pieces of it rather than a full suit.

Mixing pieces was not that common during the Heresy when new suits could be made fresh out of factories. You don't have to upkeep precious relics of a bygone era, you field repair what you can and if the suit's busted, get issued a new one.

>>52111077
Nugrle dubs confirm not.

>by the time Angelus is released he will have a full legion

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While the monopose contemptor looks shit, I kinda envy 40k custodes for their ability to take land raiders.

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>>52110865
Here's a combi-melta. Pretty easy to cut the combibolter half off from the magazine to the barrel and stick whatever weapon to the magazine.

>>52111334
I thought the suits rescued from Mars in Mechanicum were Mk IV. It's fairly clear that there wasn't much Mk VI in existence; the Raven Guard loved it, and even they didn't have enough for everyone.

And there are definitely examples of mismatched armor in the FW color plates.

>>52111417
The minotaurs called, they want their tanks back.

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>>52110308
Death Guard anon please tell me your secrets. This shit takes forever.

>>52110020
ogryn

Just got to buy a sentinel squadron for my militia, unless I can think of some way to do multi-laser rapiers without solar auxilia in them.

>>52111334
Mk5 is literally mismatched armor with some custom parts. Lots of marines were equipped like that.

>>52111417
Pallas grav tanks shits on it.

>>52111417
>40k Custodes look like the old art with a golden Contemptor instead of a big Custodian, Rhinos and Land Raiders
>30k Custodes get OC donut steel hover tonks and dick bikes

I can only hope FW gets their heads out of their asses.

>>52110022
kek

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>>52111454
Get all your bits on the table, remove mold lines from all of them and then assemble.

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>>52111429
>I thought the suits rescued from Mars in Mechanicum were Mk IV.

Nope, they were MkVI in the old fluff and they're MkVI in the current fluff. For example Book 6, under Knight-Errant entry, I believe, mentions their recovery during the Schism and they're MkVI there.

>>52111459
>[citation needed]

>>52111461
The Pallas isn't an assault tank. That's literally the only reason to bring a Land raider.

>>52111538
>Get all your bits on the table
I think I have too many bits in my table.

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>>52111636
Pic related

>got hold of some marines for cheap
>all assembled and sprayed gold
>current thousand sons not metallic
>tempted to take advantage and paint them metallic

damn.

>>52111657
>Apply red gloss
>done

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>>52111564

NOT CANON NOT CANON

NOT

CANON

>>52111653
yes your table must be too big

Every time I look at Blackshield armors... Helmet, Blackpack and Shoulder pads I can understand mismatch. But how the fuck can it have half X half Y mismatched pants?

>>52111789
You mean like mk4 left leg and mk2 right leg? Apparently it is doable but hard as fuck, only iron hands techmarines have managed to combine mk4 and mk2/3 so far.

>>52111789
That implies that Marks II and III can be easily mixed, and IV, V (if there is a V), and VI can be easily mixed. But if you cross that divide between III and IV, things get hard.

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>>52111789
>But how the fuck can it have half X half Y mismatched pants?

>>52112165
Personally I find the sprue nubs far more painful.

>>52110022
Why does hhg seem to attract so many pol retards?
Most pol retards are too poor from wasting money on a combination of oxy and (more) guns to afford FW, while using Obamacare and at the same time screeching how he was the devil

>>52111564
Cool so that shows mixer armor. Guess I'm fine for mixing IV and VI.

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how big a deal is atixking to eatablished patterns.
Ive seen this jetbike conversion and personally vastly prefer it to the FW dickbikes and was thinking of using it.

How open are you guys with 'Traitor IC in loyalists' and vice versa with 'same rules, different name' for gaming purpose?

>>52112212
>Complains about pol
>Becomes pol

How horrifying.

>>52112212
>setting based around a xenophobic, witch burning regime of ultra-nationalistic religious nutjobs who worship an immortal leader and kill and maim in his name anyone who isn't with them
>most popular army is literal übermenschen with superior genes
>black skin is a genetic defect
>"I don't get it, what does /pol/ see in this?"

>>52112212
They've gotta spend the neet bucks on something, if you spend all yout time fighting democracy rent free in mums basement with all the tendies you can eat the cash starts to pile up.

Since 30k is basically 1930s Germany plus manifest destiny it appeals to them.

>>52112212
that's a lot of falsehoods and assumptions in one sentence anon, might be time for bed.

>>52112251
Go nuts, but they count as Traitors. So if I was rocking Decima Undefeated (For some reason that I cannot currently think of) then I expect that his Hatred(Traitors) to apply to them if no other, same way as PE(Independent Characters) also applies to units with indeps in them. Doesn't come up much, especially with Reductor's all generics list save Calleb, but just to keep it consistent. Otherwise, homebrew and custom all you want, I have a custom Scoria counts-as planned myself, even if my army is Traitors.

>>52112246
>now this is podlacing

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>>52112340
>podlacing

>>52112246
Looks brutal and suitably astartes. I like it, might fit mk2 or mk3 armour better than mk4.

>>52112251
I posted this last thread, tl;dr is go nuts from a fluff point of view but on table top they count as traitors.

>IMO bending the rules to fit your fluff is pretty bad, if your trying to deny me using the 'Hatred: Traitors' rule because your using a DG force lead by snowflake, loyalist not-Typhon then I'll be pissed off.

>You are free to create new loyalist fluff and use his rules for your loyalist guy but on the table top it counts as a traitor army so I'm getting my hatred benefits and no allying with custodes.

>>52112292
but it also has white skin as a genetic defect.

>>52112412
>albinism isn't a genetic defect

>>52111564
It's weird how the one that talks about a mk5 respirator is cobbled together from lots of different armor patterns huh

>>52112433
I'm not talking about albinism.
like the slamanders raven guard have a defective Melanchromic Organ. Theres5 is just always off instead of always on makeing them the only white marines.

>>52112251
I'm not a fan. Faction alignment is an important part of this game, so you'd be messing with a significant character trait. Among a group of friends homebrew is usually fine, but I wouldn't spring it on people at events.

>>52112512
>hey, this respirator unit on this cobbled together suit would later become part of the MkV helmet
>TOTALLY PROVES MKV = COBBLED TOGETHER FRANKENSUIT

This is now the most grasping of straws I've seen.

Looking at all the consul options I might as well just start mass converting nuncio-voxes because it seems like everyone and their dog gets one

>>52112340
It's only Japanese and Korean that don't differentiate between l and r.

>>52112686
Yeah, but the lacist steleotype of a chinaman is one who can't plonounce theil L's.

Anyone else have the problem where they greatly overvalue army-wide buffs? I look at something like an Archimandrite and an Axiarch and my sense of value kind of explodes, even when I'm playing fairly low points games.

>>52112905
I don't.

Only buff I need is dead enemies.

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>Most legion-specific Terminators have Implacable Advance
>Ones that don't can still score based on the mission
>Red Butchers can never be scoring under any circumstances, ever

FW why.

So what are 30k Iron Hands supposed to be?

Black with metallic highlights, or just really murky metal?

>>52112963
they crazy, yo

>>52112963
Brain dead retards who literally have to be chained up between battles don't have the ability to secure or hold anything.

>>52112874
As a Mandarin speaker, I never understood that - we have an l and an r, and so does Mongolian. Then I found out that Cantonese doesn't have an r. Nearly all the Chinese emigrants in the 1800s were Cantonese, so there you go. If you think the White Scars are Cantonese, keep up the joke.

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1500 points of Custodes ready for cleaning and basing.

In a few weeks I'll have another Galatus Dreadnought and Caladius Grav Tank to toss in with 2 more Custodes for 2000 points.

>>52112963
>Okay guys, your mission is to storm the bunker, hack their security system, and fend off the enemy until you finish uploading the schematics back to the ship. Got that?
>MURDERDEATHKILLMURDERDEATHKILLMURDERDEATHKILL

>>52112975
Both, either, something in between... whatever you want. I think FW realized they couldn't make three black-painted loyalist armies interesting, especially when they don't have much variation in accent colors (IH: silver; RG: white; DA: silver and red). So, they made IH a very dark metallic gray instead. Metallic black, if you will.
Their studio army has some hints of green, purple, and yellow sprayed over Tamiya smoke over metallic gray in order to evoke an oily sheen. You don't have to do that; it's hard to get right. Personally, I'd mix some boltgun metal into black for the base color. But I'd also make it less bland by making the main color cool (purple wash) and the highlights warm (highlight towards bone instead of white).

>>52113177
>1500 points of Custodes
>18 models
>it's 5e GKs all over again
>and I love it
Anon, what is your opinion on the dreads, I would like to know.

>>52113067
But that Rhino your tacticals were in, that can hold the fuck out of some objectives

>>52113346
There's at least one Space Marine in there. Also, the machine spirit in there is closer to sentience than Red Butchers.

Just picked up a tac marine box from the store.

So there are 4 torso fronts that don't have aquilas and have exposed cabling. 2 have the cabling in a a Y shape and 2 in an X shape. Are those both different types of mk6?

And yeah looks like 3 beakie heads and 4 mk6 legs. How do I identify mk6 arms?

>>52113346
Tanks aren't retarded

>>52113381
Okay, it looks like the X shaped ones are mk5 torsos. Interesting.

>>52113381
>How do I identify mk6 arms?
technically? the ones without a lip around the wrist

But GW doesn't always bother with that in the art, so you can just use the mk5/7 style without really worrying about it.

>>52113381
Why would you bother getting the tac box? Ten man mk3 and mk4 kits are two thirds the price on eBay.

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>>52113511
Wait, when did that become a thing?

>>52113598
I have mk3 and 4 squads as well.

The tac box has mk6 bits, and a combi weapon, and more special weapons, and also I have a 40k army which is going to make use of some of the mk7 guys.

Also, importantly, I wanted to buy something to support my local store instead of forgeworld and ebay.

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>>52113621
RTB-01s, man

No lip. FW's copied that detail for their Mk6 in the HH books and miniatures. I don't know why.

>>52113718
>I don't know why.

So that autists would cull the ranks from those who would dare to use plastic MkVIs.

>>52112963
Because fluff wise maniacs that have to be literally chained up in between battlefields can't be expected to understand the importance of holding an objective.
Plus fuck off man. Let's not pretend you were going for anything other than a tabling with your all inductii, all the time, plus mandatory special character medics, spam list

>>52112298
Shouldn't you be slobbering over President Trump's cock right now? And following his every ludicrous twitter post?

>>52112277
> to fight monsters we made monsters of our own

>>52113642
Ah okay, fair enough.

>>52113335
They're incredibly raw and make great bullet sponges that terrify lots of opponents.

The Galatus is best at squad crushing and acting as a combat anchor that will run through anything dumb enough to piss it off. It can easily handle vehicles and is a dedicated CC unit that mops up very well. Can tarpit tons of units and is best fighting things with high WS or lots of models.

The Achillus is great and ruining vehicles in every way and is best focused on tearing apart units like Terminators or HQs of any variety. Works amazingly well as a unit that supports CC but will do best at shooting and charging every turn versus being locked in a brawl. Best used with combined charges.

>>52111653
is that a murano glass vase in the background? i like your style anon

Alright, so.

I need 4 mk6 suits to start out with.

I've got 3 heads, 2 torsos, 4 legs, 1 set of shoulders from the tac squad box.

BaC has shoulders I can use, I haven't assembled them yet. It comes with 22 shoulders, 4 of which are studded, so I can swipe 3 blank ones and 3 studded ones. Off ebay I can get bits for 2 more mk6 torsos and 1 more head. Then I just need to buy some replacement blank shoulders for my Mk4 marines off ebay. Then add in my combi-plasmas and my Mk2 sgt and I've got my vet squad ready.

>>52113756
I was trying to think of a reason beyond "they want to start stupid nerd arguments"

>>52114159
Ok, they want to sell models and making yours different from the alternative is one way to do it. And their marketing is handled by the "no poorfags in muh 30kay!" people who throw all the plastic fags off the roofs.

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What are people's opinions on the SoH and Shattered Legions? I bit the bullet and got BoP and BaC a while back along with a couple bits of FW, and I was thinking running Iron Warriors, Iron Hands and Sons of Horus as SL. Certainly not the most competitive thing in the world, but they've always been my favourite legions.

Plenty of loyalist traitor characters in the books, but do we have any records of traitor loyalist characters? Guys who said "fuck the Emperor" and went traitor, but not blackshield?

What kind of bases do you guys make? I've only ever made fantasy bases for when I played warmachine, other than my imperial guard which was just snow.

Do you go for concrete and rubble urban bases, or just generic grasses and stuff?

>>52114658
They're super fun but don't expect a competitive nature from them. They give you a ton of room for creativity and can be an entire army of Your Dudes.

It also works wonderfully to make a Crusades/mixed force list.

>>52114658
Shattered legions allow for some potentially broken combinations of units and are by opponents permission only. Due to this they aren't worth planning to play like a normal list. Might be best to make some SoH with iron allies or whatever.

>>52111564

FUCKING GW WHEN THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A KIT THAT HAS SPIKED SHOULDERS AND BONDING STUDS THAT ISN'T SOME SONS OF HORUS PIECE OF SHIT

>>52114658
People haven't come to accept shattered legions in events, so build up one of the legions enough to be a solo army as well. But they are fun. Odd combo there...

>>52114773
Have you checked out Master Crafted Miniatures?

>>52114760
I really don't understand "opponents permission" rules.

You have to have you opponent's permission to field anything, otherwise you don't have a fucking game. Every single model is there by mutual consent.

>>52114802
eh, I feel like it would be interesting to have vicious CC squads like the SoH excel at, backed by big groups of scoring infantry and guns. plus their fluff is pretty sweet and I have a boner for mixed traitor/loyalist-majority legion forces.

>>52114864
Are you the lion?

Because that was the most autistic post I've seen in last 48 hours

>>52114864
It's just some autistic hold over from early editions of the game.

>>52110038
That's my question as well
He looks like a fucking splicer

>>52114885
Tell me how I'm wrong.

>>52114101
>all that work
>now I'm reflecting on the £25 I spent on 5 Beakies from FW.

Fuck it, I have the money.

>>52114864
>"Hey, anon, wanna play a game?"
>"Ok."
>"You cool if I play White Scars?"
>"Ok."
>"You cool if I use this RoW?"
>"Ok."
>"You cool if I take a bike praetor with a bike squad?"
>"Ok."
>"You cool if I take some tacticals in rhinos?"
>"Ok."
>"You cool with a Mortis-Contemptor?"
>"Ok."
>"You cool with a Proteus with some terminators?"
>"Ok."
>"You cool with land speeders?"
>"Ok."
>"You cool with a Fire Raptor?"
>"Ok."

Said nobody ever.

>>52111564

>tfw Kalaeb Molor didn't make it off Isstvan III with Morturg and Decima

>>52114885
If it's a legal list that doesn't use the opponent permission rules, you do not need the opponent's permission to use it.

Jesus Christ, you are fucking thicker than a frozen milkshake

>>52114694
I don't think there any rules characters, but there was a whole unit of White Scars, and a Raven Guard who somehow ended up on the ruling body of Night Lords.

>>52114864

It's basically code for "these aren't actually legal rules but here they are so you can use them for fun or narrative campaigns".

>>52114917
You've definitely just proven that you're on the spectrum.

>>52114949
How is that different from someone looking at your list and saying "Nah, I don't want to play against that" even if it is a legal list with no opponent's permission caveat?

Are they fucking honor-bound to play that game anyway on penalty of death?

And how does that work in a tournament setting? Does your opponent say "I don't give you permission to play that list" and so you lose?

>>52114936
>>"Hey, anon, wanna play a game?"
>Said nobody ever.

Yeah nobody in my area asks if others want to play, we just walk up to people, lock eyes with them, and we both slam down our army transports and begin deploying. It's like Pokemon: once your eyes meet shit is going down.

>>52114983
>How is that different from someone looking at your list and saying "Nah, I don't want to play against that" even if it is a legal list with no opponent's permission caveat?

Because if you refuse a legal list, the onus on being a douche is on you. If you refuse a non-legal permission only rule, you don't look like a jackass because the official rules don't say you HAVE to accept the use of those specific non-legal rules.

This is why people actually care in 40k that Unbound and retardedly broken armies like Tau and Eldar are written into the game. If it "wasn't a big problem" we could all just "refuse to play" these perfectly official and legal rules. The issue is nobody wants to, thus they refuse them, but because GW stupidly made such things legal, now WE look bad for refusing.

>>52114932
Sure, but I also got a bunch of weapons (which FW beakies don't come with), and a bunch of dudes for 40k.

The "all that work" was typing "corvus armor" into ebay and adding 3 things to my cart. And that'll get here long before FW would.

I bought mk2 marines from FW, but Mk6 can be gotten faster in plastic.

>>52114949
The whole point is that FW units are not as thoroughly tested as GW's. There is a reason old FW stuff was only ever used with consent because it could change games so dramatically.

Despite it being a legal list, it is very fluid and open compared to other armies and is more for thematic purposes than actual intensive rules found in tournaments or competitive matches.

30k may be becoming more balanced, but it still contains plenty of elements that should be consented between players to have the most fun.

This is coming from the guy who has zero problem with fighting a fucking Warlord with Custodes and no Titans. It's about fun and testing out concepts; not serious matches.

>it's a fa/tg/uys over-analyze conventional social interaction like it's a RAW vs RAI thread

>>52114992
>being this autistic

It's ok, anon, reading comprehension is tough.

>>52115006
I wasn't implying what I did was 'better' than your route.

>>52115011
Well, it's actually a fucking rule written in the books so yes RAW, shattered legion requires consent from the opponent before it can be fielded on the game.

>>52115012
>wooshing this hard and still having the nerve to call others autistic

Reading comprehension, huh?

>>52114942
how DID they get off Isstvan anyway? I'd assume they jacked a storm eagle or something, but it was never really stated. shame, the Isstvan III lore was great. torgaddon and ryanlor, may the emperor's blessing shine upon you eternally brothers ;-;

>>52115033
Honestly, there are ways to make a completely broken list in Shattered Legion. The consent rule basically helps deter people from doing that; in turn if a list is made thematically or for fun then I see no problem for just letting them run it. FW Armies by nature stack up differently.

What size drill bit do I need for bolter barrels?

>>52115061
>[maximum damage control]

If you really have this much trouble understanding the difference between a regular army/unit and one that needs an opponent's permission to use, try a simpler game.

>>52115068
Well, that's where the permission rule comes in.

Eitherway, the anon arguing the actual rules written in the books and social rules are one and the same is just fucking retarded and let's leave it at that.

maybe he can't tell the difference because he gets told no at everything the same. Jesus fucking Christ.

>>52115116

I wasn't even part of your conversation. Sorry that Pokemon triggers you this hard.

DIDDLYDIDDLYDIDDLYDIDDLY DOOT, DOO DOO, DOOT

>>52115087
1mm. though be very careful with the mk IV kits, those barrels already have indents and are on the verge of being too small to drill.

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>>52110020
This thing is coming along, but I really really don't like painting tanks.

>>52115272
I have a .85mm bit I can use on the mkiv then.

Did space marines have any aquilas on their wargear during the heresy or do I need to file the aquila off these combi-plasmas?

>>52115357

Stuff on equipment like that is just fine

Little Aquilas are perfectly normal and ubiquitous

Just no big honkin chest plate Aquilas unless you're siege of Terra loyalists or EC

>>52115281
Need more green. it looks like a dirty bar of soap right now.

>>52115433
Yeah no these combi plasmas are for my Mk2 sergeants.

>>52115357

Emperors' Children and certain heroes who earned it (like Dorn and Garro) have eagles. Regular fags didn't get to wear it until the Siege of Terra, although they did paint and scratch aquilas on their armor during the Heresy to show their side.

Raised aquila detail attached to weapons wouldn't be a thing until the end of the Heresy, but it's up to you if you want to be that lore accurate.

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>>52115446
It's alright then.

The actual problem with
>just refuse to play
is that it cripples list building and army design. When the game company refuses to balance their game players are forced to balance it themselves--but none of them have a point of reference. Every player will have at least subtly different standards for what is fair in a game. This means that you flat-out cannot sit down with the rules, make a list, and reasonably expect to just play. You have to
>find a local group
>study what they play
>sit down and discuss what is and is not permissible
>then--and only then--can you start buying models, and there's a good chance that a different gaming group will consider what you are making invalid and unacceptable for being too weak or too strong
Look at 40k. There are two different groups for that game in my area because their armies are 100% incompatible. If they tried to comingle one group would turn 1 table gg no re the other. They all know each other, they're all friends, they play next to each other some days, but they are not playing the same game at all.

GW products have more in common with Magic cards than proper tabletop games. You cannot tell someone "I play Magic" and expect that to have any meaning. You have to specify Standard, Legacy, etc. Shit, when people sell Magic cards to my LGS, the store feels that people who claim they just play Magic have no fucking idea what Magic is like, and need serious help pricing their own collection for sale.

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>>52115064
Perhaps it is in that Blaxkshield novel ft. Decima Invictus and psychic-cyborg-zombie Morturg vs the Deathshroud in HH2 that I never quite bothered to read.
We do sort of know they survived the Istvaan III manhunt and, having survived a Virus Bomb Exterminaturs Indiana Jones style, a regular lance bombardment would be easier.

>>52115446

Aquilas on guns and vehicles are 100% fine

If you're traitor maybe paint a red X over them for flavor

Or don't, it's no big deal

>>52115450
FW really shouldn't have put all those aquilas on their vehicles and things like MkII armour if that's the case.

Weird that you have a symbol for your empire but disallow anyone from wearing it. Imagine if your country's crest and/or flag was not allowed to be used on anything, except by a very select group.

There are two kinds of eagles.

There's the regular imperial eagle, and the big thunderbolt eagle. The latter is the emperor's eagle, and is the aquila that the ECs were allowed to use and people had to earn the right to use.

Now, I don't know how much stuff would actually have raised eagles on them as far as wargear goes, but the imperial eagle wasn't that special and FW kits have some.

What is the symbol of Zhao-Arkad? That weird diamond with orbits that you see in the Legio Xestobiax banners? Has that shown up anywhere else?

>>52115517
We already have that, it's called the flag code. It's just not actually enforced.

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>>52115561
Here you go m8
The only reason why I'm not telling you off to go read the book is because I've not yet read it myself

>>52115592
Well, if it's not enforced, does it really apply?

>>52115595
>Not making the most of the gifts we've been given.

There's a link in the OP. Use it.

>>52115441
Agreed. I just need to figure out where to put some stripes and to stop being too lazy to do them.

>>52115517
>FW really shouldn't have put all those aquilas on their vehicles and things like MkII armour if that's the case.

They made those models before they knew they were going to make 30k. That's why they re-released many armor marks as a "legion" set without aquilas. See: Tartaros vs. Legion Tartaros with the cruxes and chest crux-aquilas.

>>52115750
>one of the legion tartaros has an aquila on the chest
>MkII never had a "40k" version of it and still have an aquila on the buckle, even in art
>dick bikes have aquilas, no "40k" version either

Not buying it.

>>52115450
>Raised aquila detail attached to weapons wouldn't be a thing until the end of the Heresy
probably more like mid-heresy, since the ECs lost their privileges

So how did the armies of the Imperium, let alone everyone else, identify themselves as Imperials? 15 million different legion, chapter, regiment, maniple, fleet, etc. markings doesn't make a very coherent empire. Surely there was some unified banner under which they all sailed and could have on them to identify their allegiance.

>>52115944
Aquila.

>>52110449
Do it.
Then repost here

>>52115750

>they made mk2 but it wasn't for the heresy I swear

What the fuck are you smoking

>>52115859
>since the ECs lost their privileges

FUCKING CHECKED, CIS-SCUM

>>52115832
>>MkII never had a "40k" version of it and still have an aquila on the buckle, even in art

That is the 40k version. Mk II came out before 30k, newfag.

>>52116059
>>52115832

Mk II release date: May 2011

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2011/05/space-marine-assault-armour-crusade.html

30k release date: October 2012

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Horus_Heresy_Book_One_-_Betrayal

Shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down, newfags. Idiots like you dipshits talking big when you don't know shit is why this board is shit.

rate my list.
making the plunge into 30k. Going for operating operator marines, no idea what I'm doing

2k points

HQ 255pts

Legion Centurion (115pts) [Artificer Armour (10pts), Cameleoline (5pts), Charnabal Sabre (10pts), Plasma Pistol (15pts), Refractor Field (10pts)]
Consul (15pts) [Delegatus (15pts)]

Legion Centurion (140pts) [Artificer Armour (10pts), Cameleoline (5pts), Psychic Mastery Level 2 (40pts), Refractor Field (10pts)]
Consul (25pts) [Librarian (25pts)]

Elites (390pts)

Legion Rapier Weapons Battery (165pts)
3 x Legion Rapier Weapons Battery (55pts) [Laser Destroyer Array (15pts)]

Legion Rapier Weapons Battery (225pts)
3 x Legion Rapier Weapons Battery (75pts) [Graviton Cannon (35pts)]

Troops (465pts)

3 x
Legion Reconnaissance Squad (155pts) [Cameleoline (25pts), 4x Legion Space Marines (60pts), 4x Sniper Rifle (20pts)]
Legion Sergeant (10pts) [Infravisor (5pts), Sniper Rifle (5pts)]

Fast Attack (560pts)

2 x
Legion Seeker Squad (280pts) [9x Legion Seeker Space Marines (180pts)]
Legion Strike Leader (25pts) [Artificer Armour (10pts), Melta Bombs (5pts)]
Power Weapon (10pts) [Power Sword]

Heavy Support (330pts)

2 x
Legion Jetbike Sky Slayer Support Squadron (165pts) [Multi-melta, 3x Space Marine Sky Slayers (135pts)]


Legiones Astartes: Raven Guard, Loyalist
Rite of War Legion Recon Company

>>52116117
>>52116133
>bring up tartaros in comparison of 30k and 40k
>one has big markings on the chest, including aquilas
>the other has a little aquila on them, if that
>MkII has tiny aquila on the buckle
>where's the huge chest aquila "40k version"?

You still haven't explained the dick bikes, though. Or the aquila on the legion tartaros. But you got me, guys, you really got me. Man do I have eagle egg all over my face. How will I ever get over how 30k doesn't have aquilas on anything.

>>52116268
>Says the Mk II kit was never a 40k model

And you were straight up wrong.

>>52116396
No I didn't. I said it never had a "40k" version, in the context of tartaros having a version with big aquilas on the chest and a version with just a tiny aquila on one of the suits.

>>52116133

The ruleset came out in October but the models were clearly supposed to be for heresy era marines idiot

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So it turns out low tack tape will still rip varnished transfers right off a surface. Oh well. Tank has a stripe now. I can weather and blend that in then reapply the transfers and repaint the door icons.

>>52116133

>link specifically states that both Mk2 and Mk5 are essentially extinct in 40k

>not supposed to represent heresy era marines

What are you smoking

>>52116490
>essentially

But not actually.
People had wanted older armour marks since long before the Heresy.

>>52116446

It's more accurate to say they never had a 30k version.

>>52116453

Yeah I'm sure they started working on them years ahead of time for a non-existent game system instead of a mass production of the Armor through the Ages line.

Let me guess, you think GW's Thunder Warrior armor and Mk II armor from 10+ years ago were for 30k too?

>>52116490
>link specifically states that both Mk2 and Mk5 are essentially extinct in 40k

laughingBadabWar.jpg
laughingCarcharodons.jpg
laughingExecutioners.jpg

Man this general is a fucking joke, are you all newfags or something? Bet all your armies are plastic.

You faggots haven't even been in in 40k for 6 years.

>>52116559

I'm just here to phantompost.

>>52116559
As someone who's played for 11 years, please just stop talking.

>>52116559

If grognards have post quality like yours, I would really prefer newfags.

>>52116544
>It's more accurate to say they never had a 30k version.

Little aquila on the buckle isn't very "40k".

>>52115697
Reading comprehension, anon.
I said I haven't yet read the book, not that I didn't download it and sang my praise to the Scanon the very same day it was posted.

I've simply been too busy in realspace, that's all.

>>52113835
>Disagreeing with one anon's random accusations about another anon means he loves Trump and is gay
what did anon mean by this

To change from pointless shitflinging, anyone with NL experience want to c&c this list? I know, its a pride list with vets in rhinos, but a friend wants me to make a list for him that incorporates both a HH boxset and lots of dreads, since he's sick of his 40k Grey Knight dreads being useless now they can't psyfleman

120-Chaplain, crozius chainglaive, Refractor, Jetpack, Melta Bombs

350-15x Night Raptors
60-Apothecary, Jetpack
435-3x Cortus Dreads, all with a chainfist
435-3x Cortus Dreads, all with a chainfist

220-10x Veteran Tac Squad, MMelta Rhino
220-10x Veteran Tac Squad, MMelta Rhino
220-10x Veteran Tac Squad, MMelta Rhino
205-Legion Terminators, Teleporter, 3x axes, 1x chainfist, Sergeant PFist

115-Whirlwind Scorpius
185-Deredeo

435-Night Haunter

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What's a good source for Khopesh blades?

>>52109967
Daily Word Bearer Post #4

L O R G A R D I D N O T H I N G W R O N G

>>52116872

>What's a good source for Khopesh blades?

The 40k TS product line. My sworddudes will have the termie Khopesh blades and the swords from the Sigmar Tzeentch grunt dudes (acquired bits relatively on the cheap). Of course they look all Tzeentchified, but I personally find the official FW ones to be boring and impractical and I like the exotic appeal of my replacements.

>>52116872
Tomb Kings.

:^(

Has anyone got any good conversion picks of the BaC chaplain with a power fist on either arm? I've tried googling but can't find shit. I want some references on what it would look like and how people have gone about doing it.

>>52112246
>I hear you do strange things to your ships

>>52112246

At the end of the day, its cool if your friends are cool with it and more importantly nobody seriously plays 30k tournaments anyway so who fucking cares.

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>>52116588
>>52116872
I want to Biopost too

>The World Eater, by Shabran Darr: I want to take the Nails off, but I can't. I kill, and when I kill, I can never seem to stop. It's my curse, my eternal curse! I want to take the Nails off but I can't! It's my curse! It's my fucking curse! I WANT TO TAKE THE NAILS OFF! PLEASE! TAKE THEM OFF! P L E A S E !!!
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/bioshock/images/3/36/Sander_Cohen_-_The_Wild_Bunny.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20100702153238

>>52117071
>"mix armour marks" they said
>"what's the harm in that?" they said
>they ain't saying much, after I bled them dry for the blood god

>>52117126

... and thats how Sanguinus chopped up over 200k of these fools in Mk2 power armor

Posted a few days back, whaddya think of the list? 3k Points of Ordo Reductor

HQ (310)
Arch-Magos Reductor
>Chainfist, Graviton Imploder, Cyber-Familiar, Abeyant
Secutarii Axiarch
>Arc Maul, Arc Pistol

Troops (970)
Thallax Cohort
>4 Thallax, Chainblades, Ferrox Augments
Thallax Cohort
>4 Thallax, Chainblades, Ferrox Augments
Secutarii Hoplites
>10 Hoplites, Triaros Conveyor
Secutarii Hoplites
>10 Hoplites, Triaros Conveyor

Heavy Support (980)
Myrmidon Destructors
>Graviton Imploders, Triaros Conveyor
Myrmidon Destructors
>4 Myrmidons, Photon Thrusters
Reductor Artillery Tank
>Medusa Cannon, Siege Plating
Reductor Artillery Tank
>Medusa Cannon, Siege Plating

Lords of War (740)
Knight-Errant
>Thermal Cannon
Knight-Errant
>Thermal Cannon

>vehicles stand no chance

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>>52116872
kromlech makes some.

though if you just want the blade shape it would be simple enough to make with plasticard yourself.

>>52117226

Those look alright. The one on the right looks long enough to actually appear threatening.

>>52117141
Where are people getting this from?

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>>52117333

nigga do you even lore?

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>>52117204
Dammit, I was thinking of an OR list and it was quite similar to this one, only it used Peltasts instead of Hoplites as line troops and had a single Hoplite Suicide squad.

Perhaps now it's the age of the "Hyperlogical" Reductor + Axiarch lists?

>>52117349
I saw this. People were saying he killed half of the world eaters. Where is that coming from?

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As promised, here is some test paint using some spare mk VIIs from 40k

each one is done differently, which looks the best? mostly focused on the black, trying to get a nice matte effect, the red/metals were done just for contrast purpose.

>>52117454

center one has that darth vader shine

>>52116839
Anyone?

>>52117485
I'm trying to avoid shiny armor, gotta be stealthy for the XIX. I can't get rid of it completely since there should always be a little on smooth plates.but definitely avoiding anything looking lacquered or excessively polished.

>>52117531

I wouldn't worry about shininess, just use one of those dull matte protection sprays after you're done painting.

>>52117362
Kek, I'm liking Secutarii a lot, and they make pretty fluffy allies for OR, aside from the lack of Titan of course.

It's too bad we haven't got Skitarii in 30k, they'd be a pretty great army. But for now I'm content with Secutarii, they're powerful enough in their own right, especially against vehicles.

>>52113177
I'm planning on building a force myself. Current plans are 20 Custodes in 2-3 squads, an Achillus with spear, 3 Sagittarum, 3 Hetaeron, and a Shield-Captain. Subject to change with what they start releasing for Custodes next.

Are you going to go with the traditional colours, or something else? Since there's that one picture of a Custodes in black, suggesting they can have alternate schemes. I toyed with the idea of making them a kind of pearlescant white, but I think I'll make the Hetaeron Guard in the black while the rest are traditional.

>>52117597
Well they spring to mind due to them being the Titan's support infantry and the OR having the double-Warhound FOC...but that only begins to make sense in 6000pts games. Meanwhile, you're taking a 60pts HQ dude to upgrade only two squads, while he himself doesn't quite fit in any squad.

And yes, it's not only a shame but a mistake 30k lacks proper Skitarii

anyone have the pdf of the Burning of Prospero Painting Guide, the one they released separately from the boxed set?

>>52117826
I'm looking for that one too

>>52117694
>taking the Axiarch

I see your point, but he actually does jive pretty well; his arc pistol has the same range as the lances, can take a good deal of pain off the other guys, and deals 5 haywire attacks on the charge. Maybe it'll be better to just take a handful more Hoplites, but as of now I'll take him and the buffs- after all, PE(Infantry), FNP proper, and +1 to damage chart (meaning I can explode stuff too) is pretty damn useful

Hey Anons, I'm digging the size of the Custodes, any tips on how to convert one into a Blackshield Marauder Chymeraie option 1 Praetor in Cataphracti armor?

Planning to play TS, basically I built a straightforward PotL army with massive heavy armor support, but I'm also toying with the idea of playing Loyalist RoW because Hatred + TS faction units + Arcana buffs makes for potential nasty CC results.

Would the potential benefits offset the tradeoffs of using up Elite slots and loss of veteran spam capability?

How anal are people in 40k about models btw

If I drop my tactical vet squad into 40k and call them sternguard (It's a squad of 4 mk6 armored guys and 1 mk2 armored sgt, all with combi-plasmas, no other models in my army use mk6 armor) would people raise a stink about not having all the embellishments and tabards and shit of the sternguard kit

>>52117877
>deals 5 attacks on the charge
That's nice and all, but the fact remains that Hoplites aren't exactly good against things that can actually fight back, not with WS/Str 3, an AP4 weapon and only two attacks on the charge. They're less like ancient Greece's Heavy Infantry Hoplites and more like 17th century Pikemen Meatshields around whom the battle raged on and whose only job was to protect the valuable arquebusiers from charges.

So, unless they're going against a target that has WS0/1, is wounded on a 2+ and has no saves of any kind, like most vehicles, then they shouldn't really go at all.

The Axiarch IS useful, make no mistake. Just make sure there's something for him to boost.

Also, +1 to damage chart is useless.
A regular 10-man squad with Haywire weapons (which is bullshit btw) can already destroy 5.55HP, 7 in Hazard mode. Whatever you'd think on using Deconstructive Confluence on is either already dead or immune to Haywire.

>>52110020
Been working on this >>52110063 , although they seems to be ignored, perhaps I should fuck off to somewhere else for acknowledgement

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>>52118127
No. In fact you'd likely be closer to wysiwyg than most 40k lists you'd play against.

There is something to be said for the fact that nearly all of us modeling 30k take the time and attention to meet wysiwyg requirements, both because of the look of the models, and the fact that with the larger swath of options available to most squads being able to look at them and instantly know what they are is important.

>>52117349
'It is said' part make me unsure if it's real or just a propaganda.

>>52118301
Now that I look at this tac squad box though, I like the look of the little loin cloths they have as options for the sgt. I want to get some more of those to give my vets.

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>>52110020
Finished a pair of rhinos this evening

>>52118374
Gotta do more clean up there chief. Go over the side of the highlights with the base color so the edge highlights look straighter. Basically is true for everything in general. Freehanding means that you also cover excess marks

Theyre introducing a new type of larger space marine to 40k. Wonder how/if this will affect 30k

>>52118452
Unless they're also time lords it won't.

is there any decent way to make Mk VI assault squads? The GW kit only has 2 Mk VI legs, and all the torsos have the aquila under the straps. Vanguard Vets are even worse, with extra detail all over that wouldn't look right on basic assault marines.

Advice greatly appreciated.

>>52118374
Did you have as much trouble with the doors as I did?

>>52118475
yeah, the diemos doors are a pain

>>52117613
I'm definitely gonna go traditional, but I think my second Tribune model is going to have the Warders Of Rhython scheme and maybe a second squad of Hetaerons as well.

>>52117936
Well, doesn't the hatred only work for mirror matches?

>>52118170
>being an attention whore
>on a chinese steel shipping forum
Pick one

>>52115002
No, you have problems asserting yourself if you get roped into playing an unbalanced but "legal" game.

Even in 30k there's shit that breaks the game on its own.

t. guy who once played 4 knights with only Scions and 2 dreadknights

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>>52109967
Can someone please post the pre Russ field police SW?

I am phoneposting and cant download the book currently.

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>strawpoll has BA as the most popular legion
>no BA models ever get posted in these threads
>only endless DG, IW and AL memery

>>52118872
Two of us post RG, though we aren't a meme legion so I guess it's less obnoxious?

>>52118872
two of those legions are the easiest to paint so that explains it

>>52118872
I'm working on some BA. Although I'm pretty sure that poll got botted.

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Ok im probably just too retarded in my yiff brain, but what actually is the disadvantage of a sweeping advance? Would be nice to know now that i situationally have to. Here, have a wip of my jarl as bait

>>52117826

All of the schemes are shit in that book

All of them

It is not worth all the effort you're making to get it

It's not the FW schemes, they're stupid heavy metal schemes that look atrocious.

>>52118935
there is literally none

>>52118935

Sweep right into charge range of 4 castellax and a magos

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Remember when AWG was just a bad hobbyist attention whore instead of a pretend veteran grognard claiming FW mk2 armor isn't a heresy era suit?

Times have changed

>>52118966
>Sweep and then consolidate d6
>Don't sweep and then consolidate d6

I fail to see how sweeping is bad, unless you really dont want that unit to be removed. And at you are forced to Sweep if you can according to standard 7th rules at least.

So yeah, Sweep the shit ouf those yiffs!

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Got my knight put together. Now he just needs battle damage, freehand, his base painted, and a lot of touchups. You know, the four hours of little details.

>>52119155
What Household is that? Malinax?

>>52119172
Fuck if I know. I just painted it muted colors because I don't like bright knights. He's gonna be towering over a Shattered Legions army, so I always fancied him as a freeblade or the last scion of a house.

>>52118452
Source?
inb4 naftka, bols

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>>52119155
Grav side.

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>>52119155
Lascutter side.

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>>52119191
If it was more tan it would be a perfect Malinax Knight.

>>52119229
Oh wow. Yeah, that is pretty close. Thanks Anon. I will use that as a reference for the freehand bits.

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>>52119256
Malinax are Scoria's Knight Household from Xana, and they were part of the force that burned Prospero. Can't go much wrong with them.

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oh boy

>>52119313
I wonder what could bring a malinax knight to side with a shattered legion, perhaps he wasn't happy with the new lord of xana II ?

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>>52119377
everything seems to be here

>>52119256
Don't be fooled… Malinax goes traitor with the rest of Xana.

>>52119377
What kind of predator/rhino did you bought ?

>>52119393
Freeblade last of his house dude it is!

>>52115944
Aquila, but not the Palatine Aquila with the upswept wings and thunderbolts.

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>>52119397
there's two vindicators and a scorpius

>>52119388
That's a good explanation. Scoria is a scary motherfucker. Your Knight took one look at him and went lolnope!

>>52119393
There's no hard rule that every last fucking knight in Malinax went traitor. There could be a few in the Household who decided not to run with Scoria and went renegade.

So for artificer armour. Do I basically just fancy up some regular power armour?

Anyone know if there's an image of the aether fire cannon? is it just a flamer of tzeentch in a box or something more like a plasma cannon?

>>52117454
Any other opinions on this before I sleep on it?

>>52119495
I'm not sure how you painted them, but I've seen some chaplains that were a very matt and nice black with gradients. If I recall correctly it was done by painting them grey (dawnstone probably) and then you shade with several layers of nuln oil until you're satiesfied with the depth of the black.
If you do it right, you get shading on black which can be hard to achieve otherwise.

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>>52119483
The thing on the shoulder of the right-hand castellax is probably it, assuming FW meant "fire" when they wrote "flame".

>>52119534
funny thing, the leftmost one is skavenblight dinge with multiple coats of nuln wash, and in severe lighting still looks like a dark grey. to get a real black I'd have to use something like 6 coats and I'm really concerned about obscuring detail at that stage.

Looks like the Burning of Prospero MkIII Marines and Tartaros Terminators are up for pre-order as separate boxes now (as well as 20-man bundle orders for MkIII and IV marines).

Grab your BoP boxes before GW runs out to get them cheaper.

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>>52119574
and the box image.

>>52119574
What, like how Betrayal at Calth is no longer available?

>>52119582
I know they're available still, I imagine they'll still limit availability in some way.

>>52119389
Another follower of Mortarion the Wise. May you spread the words of his tragedy.

>>52119591
Okay, I'll be sure to rush out and panic buy based on your imaginary scenario.

>>52119620
I imagine most people posting here will have enough Marines already, but that is indeed GWs goal I imagine.
The profit margin on either will be nice enough for sure.

>>52119579
it's weird using ultras as poster boys for all the heresy stuff, they were barely involved and only became a major force after the heresy since their legion was virtually intact.

>>52119566
Can't find the original pic I recall, but this is a version of that that uses a watered down black on top of grey followed by a final nuln oil wash.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/560122.page?userfilterid=53347

>>52119669
Very true, but the Ultramarines have been GWs Space Marine Poster Boys for so long they're not going to change up the formula just because these might be useful for Horus Heresy stuff.
I admit that a different Legion would have made more sense on these boxes.

>>52119669
Noob to 30k fluffs. Which Legions were most involved in Heresy? I mean the guys doing main stuffs, not just hanging out and not really doing anything of major importance.

>>52119747
All of them were involved in major events, even the ultramarines had a big battle with calth.

>>52119566
>>52119706
Sorry that I am not of more help, but I cant see enough of a difference between your marines to pick a favorite. Could be the camera (my bluegreen AL just looks pure blue) or it could be that I am phoneposting like a bitch.

>>52119747
I'd say the main legions are those either at the dropsite massacre or the Battle of Terra.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Drop_Site_Massacre
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Battle_of_Terra

So Both together-

Loyalists:
>White scars
>Imperial Fists
>Blood Angels
>Iron Hands
>Raven Guard
>Salamanders

And then pretty much all the traitor legions

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Take a look at my super Marines that are objectively better than your Marines in every way.

>>52119903
>>Iron Hands
>>Raven Guard
>>Salamanders
>relevant
You're a funny guy anon.

>>52119985
If it turns up on bitz sites or whatever, (depends what options are in the kit,) that bolter might work quite well for seekers.

>>52120019
More relevant than ultras or space wolves, but sure not particularly relevant in BoT.

>>52120019
>>52119903
It amazes me that those Traitor fuckers lose basically 3 vs. 6.5 fight (NL, TS, and half of AL)

>>52120058
It helps when you have the best siege primarch, the primarch with the only reserves of common sense in the galaxy and the best all-round primarch on your side.
Also because everyone other than the SoH and the IW fucked off and did there own thing.
Also, the traitors were winning, just not fast enough.

>>52120058
it's never been the most sound plot point, but apparently they all melted away after Horus died because they couldn't support another to be Emp. Democracy apparently is beyond ubermensch space gods so they all fucked off.

>>52120071
I reckon it'll be that no one else had a high enough power level to have a chance of killing Emps.

>>52120108
or they know that he's a perpetual and would reform, and prefer him to stay weakened on the golden throne. The Emperor probably has to be destroyed using psychic energy.

>>52120152
>perpetuals
Not keeping Abnett on a tight leash was a mistake.

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>>52120152
>perpetual

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Started working on my second boxnaut

>>52120189
Needs at least 40% more missiles.

Would it be possible that "I was there, the day Horus killed the Emperor" line come back at the end?

>>52120217
It's absolutely certain.
>>52120189
>no HK missiles

>>52120152
The problem is that while the Emperor is bussy respawning there is nobody keeping the warp rift that was once the imperial webway project in check.

Meaning that the instant the Emperor dies Terra becomes a new warp storm

>>52119985
>Mk9 power armour becomes a reality
>space marines get to play second fiddle to space marine space marines
>people will still buy this crap

>>52120340
That's why I think it's important that he's killed with Lion's sword, it must have some magic to do with instant respawns.

>>52120058
>>52120071
Anyone who's read Fear to Tread, and remembers the part where Sanguinius is knocked into a coma and the entire Blood Angels legion flips their shit and begin tearing apart Bloodletters in close combat, knows exactly what happened at the Siege of Terra.

Or at least, I imagine that the moment that Horus slew his brother, every Blood Angel charged from whatever cover they were in, and tore into the traitor legions in what can only be assumed to be a full Black Rage.

>>52119574
I got two BoP and BaC, so I'm good for now.

>>52120300
My idea is that the small missile pod can be both HK and havoc.

>>52120373
It's a conversion, the arms are from deathwatch marines for example and there is greenstuff under the breastplate.

If this would be legit then GW changed back to designing models by hand rather than CAD, and somebody is about to get fired.

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>>52119985
Whats this?

>>52120419
>the only sane survivors are all mephiston-tier monsters

>>52120019
But muh Shadrak Meduson

>>52120058
It wasn't just legions, the custodes and sisters fought as well, plus a fuckload of titans I bet.

>>52118907
I thought everyone was afraid of an all-white legion

>>52120508
nobody does white Death Guard though