Warhammer 40,000 General

Do your duty and vote today!

http://www.strawpoll.me/12498953

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>>52102494
Nth for I just want Tyranids to be mediocre at least again.

>>52102533
after 8 years of cruddance they deserve better than mediocre

>>52102515

Where's the option for 'People that bring up Carnac'?

Should I give scourges Blasters or Haywire Blasters?

>>52102563
Presumably bundled in with Carnac, since at least half of them at any given time are Carnac

>>52102617
Look mom I posted it again

>it's a "let's start the new thread off completely horribly" episode
guys please

>>52102629
40kg needs to be shattered and rebuilt from the ground up. Meme-free 40kg exodus when?

>>52102597
Haywire, you don't want them close to anything that might short them back

>>52102640
Much like 40k itself. Fitting, really.

So what's the deal with Cypher and his sword now? Can we trust them or are they planning something hetetically dangerous?

How easy are Tzaangors and Rubric Marines to paint for a beginner? I've always been interested in a 40k army and I kind of want a Tzeentch based one.

>>52102617
I'd argue it's more expensive to collect Templars, given that their thing is large (16-20) man squads armed with boltpistols and chainswords either footslogging or riding in an LRC.

The cost of all those neophytes and boltpistol and chainsword bits adds up.

>>52102620
>since at least half of them at any given time are Carnac

Got proof for that?

>>52102657
It's Anathme aka the Murder Sword. A weapon that can kill a god.

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Apparently I posted just as the last thread was dying so I'll link this here.
>>52102553

>>52102681
>I was just going to dump them in a Tupperware container stuffed with toilet paper

>>52102657
He stood within spitting distance of the golden throne, if he was going to make a move it would have happened

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>>52102563
>lets take the best and make the marines
>then take best and make the veterans
>then the bestest into the deathwatch
>but wait the custodes are even more best
>and the grey knight forevermore bestest
>so lets make guillimarines the bestest to ever best a best

>>52102715
Girlyman had him arrested before he could do anything

>>52102681
see
>>52102686

>>52102681
Take them anyway, they'll still do better than shitty termagants and warriors. Purestrains have a 5+ invulnerable save and stealth, if you're playing them right you won't have that much trouble with Overwatch.

>>52102617
To be fair, I'm behind Dark Angels because I got them when I split Dark Vengance.

And I guess a little cause of gay-ness.

>>52102657
I trust Rowboat and think Cypher wanted to kill Emps, the problem is he is free on Terra while its defenders are busy dealing with genestealers.

you should take a grey knights strike squad using the imperial agents GK detachment so that your ork or nid playing friend can have a beefier warlord.

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>mfw Cypher kills emperor
>triggers "time of ending" in 40k

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>>52102782
>Azrael and the other paranoid fucks were right all along.

>>52102782
>Cypher was the greatest threat to the galaxy all along

>>52102812
As it stands he's the greatest threat to my wallet if I have to buy a bunch of shit after he pulls his shenanigans

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How does this list look?
Im so used to playing Eldar I have no idea how to DE

>>52102873
Looks like Dark Eldar to me.

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>>52102873
>playing Ynnari

>>52102873

>Ynnari
>killyourselffaggot/10

>>52102873
Cut Hellions

Split Reavers into multiple smaller units with caltrops.

I assume you're using the Archon to Portal in the Wraithguard? If so, you need the upgrade to Scythes.

>>52102693
I had a similar idea, but an icecream container and stuffed with a tea towel. I'm guessing it's not a go, then?

FUCK ULTRAMARINES
FUCK MATT WARD
FUCK AGE OF SIGMAR
FUCK GAMES WORKSHOP

>>52102922
As long as you fold it and cover your minis properly it should be safe
>tfw broke as fuck and my carry case was tupperware lined with foam from blister packs

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>>52102748
Holy shit are you a gayer me?

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>>52102971
You forgot one

>>52102984
>thinking gays who start Dark Angels just because they split DV with someone is a rare occurrence

>>52102675
Holy shit, really? Got a source, because if so then Cypher being loose on Terra is a major threat

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Is there anything from the Eldar and Harliquin book that can make Helions remotely playable? These guys are absolute dogshit and I have like 20 of them because they were great in 5th edition

>>52102971
>people who read 1d4chan don't feel the need to lurk more

>>52102984
>Tfw actually gay
>Dork Angles are my favorite chapter
>Favorite factions are Nids and Tau though
I think I'm gayer than both of you.

>>52102873
>Hellions

Literally the worst unit in the codex. If you already have the models then at least run them as Beastmasters, they're fast and 3 points cheaper (plus can all take power weapons if you feel like making a hilariously pointless suicide anti-marine squad). Beastmaster units can be upgraded to include Khymerae and Razorwing flocks and therefore to actually be good, unlike Hellions, which are doomed to be shit forever.

Incubi don't have grenades and so are really at their best as super-killy ablative wounds for a character.

10 man raider squads should have splinter racks

WWP Spooky D Ghosts should have the cheeseflamer

tl;dr cut the Hellions, spend 50 points on Spooky D flamers and 45 points on 3x Splinter Racks, use last 65 points to make the Hellion unit into a smaller 6 man beastmaster unit or something idk

If you can't take Beastmasters as Ynnari then just pick something else, fuck Hellions are terrible

How the hell do I make Alpha Legion work? Is it even worth taking the detatchment?

>>52103064

Call them Beastmasters and give a few of them Power Swords for the lulz. Otherwise no.

>>52103099
wait for the super space marines coming this year
build an army around these units
paint them with the alpha legion colors

you are playing alpha legion now

>>52102617
Well I guess it's true that I've never kissed a girl. I should start collecting dark angels

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>>52103076
Stop giving this faggot (You)s, he l i t e r a l l y asked in one of these threads what triggers 1d4 haters the most and has been shitposting it in every thread since.

>tfw >I2 is quality pasta by comparison

Why aren't riptides allowed in killteam?

What type of bases look the best in anyone's opinion? I'm starting a new army and I'm tired of just boring bases with a couple of skulls or shells here and there

>>52103196
snow covered bases look really nice imo

>>52103196
Pick something that compliments and contrasts your paint scheme and as such makes both the model and the base stand out. Snowy bases are popular but if you put White Scars on them they'll look bland, whereas Blood Angels actually looks decent on snow. Though here when I say snow I mean "a base with snow on it" and now "a base painted white with white flock".

tl;dr it's subjective.

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R8

Hey anybody have a scan of gathering storm 2, I checked the databases in op and I could not find it

>>52103276
Its in third link.

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Rate

1850 Renegades & Heretics: Vraks Renegade Unending Host

HQ__
Renegade Command Squad
Arch Demagogue
master of the horde, covenant of nurgle, 4x Disciples, Chimera

Troops__
Renegade Infantry Platoon
20x PCS, Demagogue, x3 melta guns, chaos sigil, militia training, meltabombs
20x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, militia training
20x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, militia training

Renegade Infantry Platoon
20x PCS, Demagogue, x3 melta guns, chaos sigil, militia training, meltabombs
20x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, militia training
20x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, militia training

Renegade Infantry Platoon
20x PCS, Demagogue, x3 melta guns, chaos sigil, militia training, meltabombs
15x Infantry Squad, flamer
15x Infantry Squad, flamer

Fast Attack__
6x Renegade Sentinels
autocannons, camo netting, militia training

Heavy Support__
3x Rapier Lasers
extra crew, militia training

Lords of War__
Renegade Baneblade

The baneblade is bubblewrapped by fearless renegades that provide anything behind each individual squad an improvable 3+ cover save. Each infantry squad comes back onto the board outflanking when they die on the roll of a 2+

>>52103187
Because you touch yourself at night.

>>52103286
well fuck me I didnt even see it,
thank you

Anyone actually play Eternal Crusade?

I got a free key and there are no fucking games...

>>52103302
>utility blades
am i autistic if i found that mildly entertaining?

>>52103275
You probably don't have 90 cultists/10

>>52102659
I don't know about Tzaangors but Rubrics are moderately difficult to paint and have them look good as opposed to being shit. It also depends on your skill though. I jumped on Tzeentch straight from Necrons so it took me somewhere around 4 hours to get myself satisfied with my first rubric, and even now I still find some things on him that make me want to touch him up.

Most of your time painting Tzeentch will be incredibly minute touch-ups

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>>52103327
>play Eternal Crusade

>>52103379
>tzeentch models constantly being changed
just as planned

>>52103387
>not playing a free game because you can
>smugreactionimage.jpg

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>>52103327
Got into the beta but haven't found the time.

>tfw dead on arrival
Damn I was hoping for another Space Marine

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>>52102722
>Grey knights over fucking custodes

>>52102617
Anything liker this where a bias is expressed is guaranteed to be shit, and look. It is

>>52102617
It might be funny if it wasn't horrifically outdated

>>52103399

The only way to find a game is to constantly faction hop.

How To Fix Tyranids:

>Cannibalize: At the beginning of each round, roll two dice to determine how many units you have to remove from your army.

>>52103452
What happened to Free2Waagh?

>>52103477
Scrapped. The first team consisted of fucking idea guys who can't make shit happen. Then another company took over and tried to salvage this shit project. Orks and Eldar were added later.

>>52102782
Emperor's body die and he reborns as Ynnead (because skulls everywhere in the Imperium)

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They're going to make the Lion a traitor, aren't they.

>tfw loyalty is its own reward.

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NEW SLAANESH DAEMON MODELS FUCKING WHEN

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>>52103477

They scrapped it because of how the game changed and decided to try giving out free keys instead and giving them 1/3rd XP but otherwise the full game.

Pic related

>>52103512
If only to see the rage in my Dark Angels playing friend's face after all his years of loyalist dogma, I hope so

>>52103516
Never

>>52103467
and this rule only applies to the tyranid player

he sure has a hungry army that eats itself!

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>>52102617
>various chapters has various bottle cries or even don't silent
>for teh enpra

Hydra Dominatus!
Hydra Dpminatus

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>>52103548
Now I want to see an army of nids made of various foods.

Meatbreadfex when?

>>52103548
Then tyranids destroy all enemy units, they should start cannibal party.
Tyranids loses because all dead.

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>>52103530
Here's your >>(you) cunt.

>>52103580
>that one hive fleet that was empty as fuck and they couldn't reach their destination
LOL

I'm painting Emperor's Children, post heresy. I just finished painting my first model, and it came out looking atrocious. Beyond thinning my paints, what advice can you give me before I start my second model?

>>52103611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT_EaryRNsM

>>52103611
Prime in grey.

Trying to make a unit of Power nail bullgryns work. This is what I have at the moment.
>3 Bullgryn
>Priest
>ML2 Biomancy Psyker
>Chimera

I'm thinking about getting Karamazov for 2+ saves without giving up the units T5.

>>52103596
>ships ate each other
>hivefleet

>>52102873
Trueborn aren't on the list of units you can take for Ynnari.

>>52103643
Q: In the Reborn Warhost, can you pick a Kabalite Warrior
unit (Troops), and upgrade it to Kabalite Trueborn (Elites),
using an Elites slot of the Detachment while doing so?
A: Yes. The same is true of Wyches/Bloodbrides. A unit
upgraded in this way no longer qualifies as one of your
minimum two Troops choices.

>>52103659
>>52103643

It's literally the same thing for the Start Collecting box, too.

>>52103611
I'm a bit thick in the head, but would that kind of purple work for post-heresy?
>>52103611
I'm sorry, but what could you specify what you mean?

How do fix Ynnari?

>they get their own units
>they are just the grey knight versions for Eldar and get a billion buffs when dealing against Daemons

>>52103659
Ah okay, had missed that! Whch is nice becuse now I can use them as originally planned.

>>52103670 ,Shit, meant >>52103622 and >>52103623 respectively.

>>52103674
>How to fix Ynnari

Remove it entirely, kill the ones responsible, kill people who try to use it

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>>52103687

>>52103674
>all eldar units in a ynnari army have different stats and deal lesser damage than their original counterparts
>unless facing daemons
>ynnari-only units are mandatory and your army is invalid if you don't have a ynnari-only unit in your army

>>52103687
Oh my bad I missed that part. Post heresy is a lighter pink and black I think

>>52103674
Just fix the actual Eldar Codex and Ynnari are fine.

>>52103729
>>52103732

Thanks, both of you. If there's any other advice you guys have to share, I'd be happy to hear it.

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Is this list any good? I am facing my friend, and I do not know what he will bring to the table, so I tried to make it as flexible as I could.

>>52103785
>Tau

>>52103795
Hey at least I am using a fair and balanced list with units from the codex. Can you see stormsurges, riptide squads of 3, etc...

>>52102993
Found my new chapter armour scheme

>>52103187
Some people might let you take them anyway with some homebrewing, enjoy holding only one objective at most and killing only one model per turn (or risking a wound to kill two).
Meanwhile your opponent can hold 2 objectives and just keep shooting at you till you eventually die.

Whats the most op necrons killteam at 200 pts? Just wraiths or something?

What's this new combined Skitarii, Cult Mechanicus, Knights list I've heard about?

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>mfw Daemonic Adversaries is a better chaos boon table than the actual one

>>52103940
in GS2
its a CAD type army build, all vehicles get iwnd and if you max units (impossibruh) you gets canticles on all units

>>52103327
Due to shitty Australian internet I lag too much for it to be anything but awful.

>>52102982
I bought a backpack, and some wood. Built a frame within the bag, and then used egg cartons to protect the minis.

>>52103795
He made a fun and fluffy list. I think the memes have gone a bit too far at this point, we shouldn't be shitting on
>Tau
we should be shitting on
>Monstrous Creature suits

>>52103187

If I were an evil planetary overlord, I would sentence people like you to death. Either because you're not trolling and your abject stupidity is a blight upon my domain, or because you are trolling, in which case, the level of excruciation that your execution entails is inversely proportional to how many jimmies you manage to rustle.

But if there was room in my evil personal army of evil people, people who purposely bring Riptides to 200 point games would be instantly recruited.

>>52103996
no, I refuse to play against Tau. Full stop.

>>52103785
>list in a PDF

Why are you all such faggots? If it's not illegal lists made with babbys first newfag picture builder or unreadable battleshit formatting, it's this garbage.

Are you faggots this massively incompetent?

>>52104060
I don't mind as long as it's readable

>>52104007
>If I were an evil

You dont have to be evil in this case, imho.

>>52103467
>gave your opponent crush all models removed this way. You can never use those models again.

>>52103516
Never. Slaanesh is being SoB'd

>>52104106
Nope.

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Have the scans been posted already?

>>52104140
>Cuckpher
>Lord of the Cucks

>>52104140
>>52086932

>>52103368

>https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1777#disqus_thread

>Anon wrote:
>I can well imagine some kind of Mk9 marine bred from custodes or grey knight genestock with some new goodness. >Perhaps they'll even be true scale! Then we'll all have to buy all our marines all over again.

>75hastings69 wrote:
>New marines will make old marines seem like empire now seem to sigmarines ...... if that makes sense? :)

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
PANIC!

Ok, building a force of Alpha Legion and I'm using chosen as troop choices. Is the Power Fist ever worth it for my Lord or for that sake Champions. 25 points seem ridiculous, I'm considering putting my Lord in a cultist squad where the Power Fist might provide some anti-armor capabilities. But again 25 points.

>>52104251
Hey, told you guys Elbow-Anon was legit.

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>>52104251

>40k isn't getting Sigmar'd guys!
>Itll never happen!

>>52104264
I don't think you know what Sigmar'd means.

>>52104251
>hastings

>>52104264
>>52104269
Double/Extra Ultramarines?

>>52104269
>giving the 14der (you)s

I for one look forward to our new super ultra marine overlords

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>>52104264
It's not getting Sigmar'd, our spiritual liege is just back and making Ultra Ultramarines.

>anons speculating about some rumoured release
>REEEEEEEE SIGMAREEEEEEEED
Stop it.

>>52104272
UNNAMED LARGEBASE DUAL KIT costs half a landspeeder plus a grot squared each

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>>52104251
>>52104258
The one greave looks like it's from the stormcast range.

The model I'm looking at has a strange wrist mounted interface, not sure if it'll be a squad upgrade or on all models. The bolter looks far more like an assault rifle ( Longer body)
And has the strange extended gorget.

Honestly not sure if they're bigger than custodes, or simply roughly the same size.
The model I have to compare the height with is a guardsmen, which he towers over a fair bit.

It still has the overall space marine Mk 8 look.
But yeah, just a little bit of extra on the model.
Backpack is also more rounded. Sort of like how the energy pack on the las or grav? ( I dont play Space Marines) energy pack looks for their devastators.

>>52103996

Tau without those options is still cancer. Here's how every game against (non-bullshit) Tau goes:

Tau player attempts to shoot you off the board before you make melee contact. If you make melee contact, you win. If playing against bullshit tau, omit the second part.

>>52104292
unless you're GSC that's any melee army vs any shooty army

>>52104287
Ultraviolenters, Ultraven Guard, Ultralamenters

>>52104292
>fire warriors blind you terminators and beat them to death

Here's how to win against Tau:

>Don't play with them

>>52104307
>terminators are a melee unit
>I2

>>52102617
....is ....is this a meme?

>>52104317
Awfully convenient for you seeing as you don't play the game.

>>52104298

The difference being that every other shooty army has melee options. Whilst you can even build Orks as pure gunline, you're going to expect some melee in there (and even their shooting units have some close combat ability).

This means you can expect something in the order of different tactics. You can reasonably expect to get a slightly different game each time you play a particular army, because there's variety of choices.

Except with Tau.

Every game against Tau will be the Tau player playing "keep away" whilst you either try to outshoot them (usually futile) or make it into close combat. They'll ignore your cover, jump behind their own cover and even their fortifications can move if they really want to.

Tau are exactly what a min-maxer would make if they were given total control over making their own unit. Just front load everything into shooting. Nothing else matters. Dump-stat attacks, initiative, strength and toughness. When you have big shit, make it MCs or GCs so they're bullshit.

It's the equivalent of a player showing up for a Pathfinder game with a custom race that has a +4 racial bonus to Intelligence at the cost of -2 Strength, and claiming it's balanced oh and by the way he's looking to play a Wizard.

>>52104327
It's advanced fifth dimensional b8 that works every time despite it being obviously b8.

>>52104333
Why would you melee when there are lazer guns? Seems pretty stupid. Do you complain that you can't win a car race on horseback?

>>52104327
It's the best kind of bait

If you point out that Grey Knights are not well-liked, you are a disgusting 1d4er

If you agree, you are a fucking idiot

>>52104269
>merging into mega factions
>BIG HUEG CENTER PIECE SUPER CHARACTERS
>Bigger Marines

The same shit that happened to fantasy is happening to 40k. The only difference is the setting isn't imploding.

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>>52104292
Or if by some miracle you bring down his broken units down the first couple of turns, he will then spent the rest of the game telling you how broken OP your army is.

Yes dude outflanking Melta Dominions and lucky Deepstriking dual flamer pistol Seraphim is OP.

Because 190 points for a transport and squad with melta is broken.

>>52104351
You see that last bit? The setting imploding?

That's what getting Sigmar'd means.

Everything else isn't.

>>52104360
b-but my 1d4chan memes.......

>>52104317
I think Raptors in Talon Strike Force can.
All have Rending bolters to rip the Tide, Lias slightly cripple Rip&Tide, devastators ignores cover of riptide, assaults tarpit Riptide, auxilary raptor wing for dedicated Riptide hunting.

>>52104351
Girlyman is bringing super special marines, in other words not! Stormcast.

It is fantasy all over again with setting exploding a bit instead of out right killing it.

40k was grimdark, then it was grimderp and now grimderp with noblebright sprinkled around.

>>52104252
yes and no. lord should have fist/claw, ideally in termintor armour, with the Mindveil

Why are 1d4 fags so fucking horny for drama?

Do we had this here already?
http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/new-cod-sup/codex-adeptus-custodes.html

>>52104392
Would it be stupid to give my lord a fist?

Also can champions take combat familiars? It seems they can only take weapons from the melee and ranged categories.

>>52104349
40k
In an historical game or more modern game I would agree with you.

In 40k that is literally a space opera so glorious melee combat is expected.

>>52104396

>Using the Melta-or-Kheres Contemptor as a custodesnaut when the beautiful Custodesnauts just came out

I am disgusted.

>>52104396
>No Forgeworld models

>>52104400
Both a fist and a claw for the lord: it maens he gets the + attak for 2 weapons and can switch between the two

>
Also can champions take combat familiars? It seems they can only take weapons from the melee and ranged categories.
you seem to have awnsered your own question

jsut remember: a DP with the blade of the hydra is worth its weight in gold

>>52104396
>three datasheets
>codex

>>52104396
do we have a copy out?

>>52104408
10 bloody quid too

>>52104333
Guard can melee and don't need cover?

>>52104381

There's one thing that really bugs me with the story they're presenting right now. We've been told for nigh on 30 years that the Imperium teeters on the brink of destruction. Citizens are worked to their deaths by the trillions to fuel the industry of the Imperium which just barely, barely, manages to hold back the darkness.

And then Gulliman comes back and suddenly by declaring so, industry springs through the roof and amazing new deadly weapons from Mars are unveiled. Suddenly the Imperium is ready for a Great Crusade Mk 2.

I get that the Tech Priests probably have been hiding a bit of shit on Mars, but this is just plain silly.

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>>52104396

>>52104396
>even more marine wank
Fuck sake

>>52104407

DP?

>>52104420

Ogryns. Priests. Rough Riders. It's not to say these are the best, or indeed, common options. But they do exist. If you meet your opponent for a match and ask what they're going to play and they say "Guard", you don't know exactly what you're going to face. Maybe it will be air-heavy with Tempestus allies. Maybe an armoured company. Maybe giant infantry blobs. The point being you can reasonably expect that no two games will be the same.

Tau are the exception to that. Every game against Tau is the same, because every Tau game is "Shoot the enemy while running away from them". At least Guard can fix bayonets.

>>52104424
Terra and Mars fuelled a Great Crusade by themselves, at least at first.

That's all Guilliman needs for now too.

>>52104435
Deamon prince
you know, the one competative thing in the book

>>52104442
Sorry dude, I just cant remember the abbreviations. Haven't played for a long time.

>>52104429
>Custodes are space marines

>>52104424

Roboute had this planned 10,000 years ago, it's not like Cawl is pulling them out of his ass. This is like Batman being sent to the Stone Age with a time machine so he can get enough prep time to beat an Apokoliptian invasion.

>>52104360
>implying the setting imploding means anything if the table top changes exactly the same way anyway

>>52104448
ahh sure, no worries
some hot tips:

DP: daemon prince
Soc: sorcerer
ML : Psychic mastery level
Fist: power fist
PG/MG: plasma gun/meltagun
VotLW: Veterans of the long war

>>52104451

Just because they in a literal sense are doubled up to-marines-what-marines-are-to-guard doesn't mean they aren't big buff power armoured super soldiers from the 40k setting.

People bundling them in as "More marine wank" are completely right to do so if sick of marine wank.

Though honestly I don't know why you'd be sick of marine wank when Primarch wank completely trivialises marines every time it happens. The latest gathering storm book is basically everyone taking turns fellating Gulliman for being so much better than them.

>>52104455

>Hey Cawl
>01111001 01100101 01110011?
>Stop that shit. I'm planning to get frozen in stasis for 9,000 years. Gonna need some serious gear when I wake up. Get cracking. But make sire it's ready at M41.999, not a moment sooner.

Unless Cawl has just been keeping that shit frozen on Mars for untold millennia despite the Imperium desperately needing it, which I freely admit is exactly as dickish as I'd expect the Mechanicus to be.

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Skimming through the codices now and why are eldar sergeants so much better than the dark eldar equivalent?
Both upgrades cost 10 points and iirc exarchs get: +1 BS, +1 WS, +1I, +1W, +1A
meanwhile Sybarite etc for the same 10 points get +1 A +1Ld
Both get option to purchase better loadout.
What the hell? How is this balanced in any way, shape or form? And Aspects aren't even considered to be the OP units.

>>52104472
That's EXACTLY what the Ad Mech does, and you know it.

>40k is getting sigmar'd

Fuck this, bros...

We should do something about it.
>1. Shitpost this thread hard: >>52078160
>2. Never buy GW products

Lets teach these fuckers a lesson. Fuck their Ultramarines wanking.

At my FLGS today, and there's someone painting up some Ultras.

Oh, it just so happens they'd just been back burnered, and he only got around to em today. How convenient.

>>52104481
Fuck off Anon, you shitstirring faggot.

>>52104489
Don't give him (you)'s.

Rise of the Primarch is really shit.
You get the Ultramarine decurion and a wankfest Primarch, the rest are just rehashed model/rules and unplayable formations.

>>52104472
>admech ship
>use autoloader
>imperial navy
>use lash and slaves

010101011, Imperials?

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>>52104487
Loads of "long time tzeench" players around all of a sudden too

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I'm now imagining that this Contemptor is that one Custodes everyone hates and nobody invites to parties. Everyone else got glorious masterwork bodies, but Phillipus just got crammed into a wrecked marine contemptor they found lying around.

S U P E R marines

>>52104487
>>52104505

Are you guys suggesting GW's paying people to play their flavour of the month armies at LGSs?

>>52104511
Im suggesting people are lieing fags

>>52104505
>tfw homosuck is shit and will never redeem itself

Is this Marines 2.0 for real?Is it a new faction or just elite SM units?

>>52104498
Spiritual Liege will be HQ for imperium, necrons and eldar.

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>>52104506

>Why if it isn't little Phillipus
>How is spending your undying vigil in a rusty crate treating you Phillipus?
>Nice dreadspear you have there Phillipus
>Dohohohohoho

>>52104507
This is not confirmed

>>52104505

>TL comes out
>oh hey guys, long time DG player here how do I into the basics of CSM because I've only been playing them forever but have no idea how anything works

>>52104548
Elbow-Anon said so, tho.

POWERED BY GUILLIMAN'S BLOOD!

>>52104544
>GUFFAW

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>>52104544
Stop bullying Phillipus you shit.

>>52104511
I'm suggesting people are suddenly doing up a faction because it's got a primarch leading it.

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>>52104548
Do you doubt the power of our spiritual liege?

>>52104475
Eldar are just better than everyone
most people get the +1 attack, +1 LD
Apart from orks, but w/e

>>52104551
>>52104560
>>52104548

>>52104557
People buy the new stuff and not decades old models? No way anon, you lyin' chump.

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>>52104554

Th-thank you your majesty, I will try harder!

>>52104505
>>52104506
>long time custodes player here

>>52104349
the most important dude in the entire setting doesn't use ranged weapons. It's supposed to be science FICTION

>YFW Guilliman starts praying to the Emperor in Gathering Storm 3 after seeing Celestine fight.

>>52104544
hahaha, Phil is such a fucking dork dude. I say we leave him behind next cleansing.

>>52104581
>HAHA YES WHAT A LOSER. WE SHOULD'VE LEFT HIM IN THE WEBWAY. GUFFAW.

>>52104578

>the most important dude in the entire setting doesn't use ranged weapons

What are you talking about? Jurgen uses a Meltagun all the time.

>>52104505
I bought a Tau army when they first came out, you'd be surprised how many people just sit on armies and then claim to be long-time players. I put in maybe 5 games per edition.

>>52104451
>custodes
>anything other than space marines on roids

>>52104579
>oprahyougobacktoPOL.gif

>>52104579
Fell in love? "Marines can have sex" confirmed?

>>52104572

>Finest
>Skill

>>52104360
excuse me, End Times and 8th ed WHFB is considered by everyone NOT WHFB and thus just the buildup to AoS.

This is the same. Gathering Storm is NOT THE SAME AS 40K. KINDLY SHILL/TROLL ELSEWHERE

>>52104505

Do you want to know my pain?

I've been playing Grey Knights since the Daemonhunters book. I lived through The Great 5th Ed Farce.

>>52104471
>The latest gathering storm book is basically everyone taking turns fellating Gulliman for being so much better than them.

Well, the first one was doing that to St Celestine so it's not really surprising.

“I erred,” Greyfax admits, “and I will do Penance. You truly are the instrument of the Emperor’s Will.”

“Vigilance is not a sin, Katarinya,” Celestine replies, “You serve Him as surely as I”.

“Indeed. Let us serve him together, as true warriors of Faith.” Together, Celestine and Greyfax launch themselves into the battle.

>>52104612

Hey, at least Celestine earned it.

>>52104610
>everyone

No, just salty fantasyfags who probably never even played the game.

>>52104610
based drama-hungry 1d4cuck

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>>52104554
Daaaad. After being appointed to Lord Commander i want you to meet with my new girlfriend.

>>52104578
>Punisher CANNON
20 S3 AP- shots

>Multilaser
4 S6 AP6

>Typical CCweapon champion-tier
4+ S6+ Ap2 hits

Fix some stat errors

>>52104506

Honestly, they could have done a rather good book with Sisters of Silence + Custodes + SOB (Since they have most of the big convents on Terra) rather than this thing that's more a supplement than a real codex.

Call is 'Guardians of the Throne' and make Aegis of the Emperor the army-wide special rule.

>>52104631
Which one is GF?

>>52104642

Or just use Talons of the Emperor from inferno to run your Custodes army.

>>52104635
>20 S3 AP- shots
no
str 5

>Typical CCweapon champion-tier
>4+ S6+ Ap2 hits
Eldar player detected

>>52104548
Hastings confirms

>>52104647

Doing that would be saying 30k and 40k armies can cross over, which they seem very hesitant to do.

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>>52104646
One with dress of course.

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>>52104614
That was way to close to Slaneesh forbidden love anon.

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>choose your army based on models and fluff, not rules
>wants to play tyranids
>mfw

>>52104660
can someone else confirm this other than this stupid memefuck

Can anyone give me some basic tips for a mixed Skitarii/Admek list?

>>52104681
>playing nids
>playing orks
>playing sisters
>playing deldars

I pity those retards for choosing the wrong path in life.

>>52104675
Eldar and traitors?

The fuck is this new fluff.

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>>52104688
fuck off I like modelling

>>52104648
>Kharn is Eldar
KHAAAARN!!

>>52104688
>Sisters
They are top non cheese army, the bulk of thier models are two to one decade old thou

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>>52104681
Welcome to the club

>>52104679
>forbidden
You are misguided.

>>52104710
Love for anyone but the Emperor is forbidden love.

>>52103302
Does the 3+ save even work if it's a vehicle? Or does the 25% rule apply? Because there's no way that baneblade is 25% covered by cultists.

>>52104662

Sure but on two levels:

1: I feel it's pretty reasonable to just use Talons if you wanna play Custodes in 40k, opponent's permission of course. I mean, they do have staggeringly powerful HQ options, but with their petty model count they're not exactly a power build.

2: From a company perspective, it wouldn't be all that hard to have someone take an afternoon to tweak Talons to a 40k version instead of taking an afternoon to slap gold paint on a plastic contemptor and a land raider.

>>52104701
>Sisters are top non cheese army
So, low tier

got it fampai

>>52104682
>>52104291

>>52104679
It's in GS3

>>52104725
It doesn't matter how much is covered, as long as you're shooting past the cultists any unit behind gets a 3+ cover, 2+ for the camo netted sentinels.

>>52104726

Oh yeah. I'm just listing why they haven't done it, rather than saying it's a good idea.

>>52104728
Eldar, Tau and certain marine formation is cheese tier.

Then we have the rest, while Nids and Orks are scrub tier.

GSC turn one melee is gimmick tier along with flyrants and guard gun line

>>52104691
This bothers me too, Gillman is a bit too tolerant

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>>52104761
>Nids and Orks are scrub tier.

>>52103512

If this does happen

>It shouldn't

What Traitor will turn loyal? They're all daemon Primarchs aren't they?

Or is it going to be a Red Herring and one of the missing Loyalists (not Lion) will go bad? Khan? Corax?

>>52104691
>>52104767
He has Cypher and his mates arrested.

What's the easiest way to ally with Primaris Psyker as a Xeno?

>>52104776
That's good, the only thing missing is having the Eldar executed

>>52104749
Read the rules again, faggot

>>52104436
But then you could also say this for many melter armies be they blood angels, khornates, tyranids or genestealers. The other army will al aye shoot and run, and the melee army will always charge across the board in a straight line until they're dead or reach Cqc at which point they eat the guardsmen, regular marines, tau, Eldar, etc. alive.

>>52104790
Can't, they brought him back to life with the power of their god.

Killing his Prophet would probably lead to his death.

He doesn't trust them though, he knows they're only working with them because it suits them.

>>52104796
yeeeeeeeah but accepting their presence in the throneroom?

>>52104800
It's just her and the visarch, he can deal.

>>52104783
Imperial Agents.

>>52104771
Sorry but it is true. Unless facing Eldar, Tau or Marine cheese I can bring my shit units like Repentias and Penitent Engines against everyone else and win.

>>52104791
The rules I read "Any models being targeted through an infantry squad receives a modifiable 3+ cover save, including other infantry squads" but I'll look again cunt

>you will never fuck grayfax, celestine and the eldar girl at the same time

why fucking live

Allegiances

Imperium
Aeldari
Xenos consisting of Tau, Tyranids, Orks and Necrons
Chaos

Soon.

>>52104776

>Yeah I'll take your help in exchange for an audience with the emperor
>lol CUSTODES ARREST THIS MAN

Great start our Lord commander is off to with honour and keeping his word.

>>52104817
>What is hot glue the models
Not sure if that counts but you can jizz all over the models.

I'm having flashbacks to that Falcon.

>>52104402
>opera
Let's turn into realopera

>Corne band attack the planet
>berzerkers trying to charge the line of PDF but concused because of bulletstorm 250m away and later captured and executed
>chaos champion hits falled soldier on road with power fist in fountain of gore and fail in opened schizm into sewer
>hellbrute follows him
>terminators try rush through buildings but stacked under ruins
>predator stuck in roadblock because of spikes
>marines can't enter building because floor brokes under them, so they use raptors and their jump packs to fly through windows occasionaly killing somebody 9/11 style but building can't endure more and collapses

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>>52104796
>He doesn't trust them though, he knows they're only working with them because it suits them.
Why did he wanted to keep her with himself then? And why he talked with them without bodyguards? There is something is sure something...

>>52104844
Because they're useful and much easier to keep track of if they're where he can see them.

>>52104844
Because meatshields that aren't your men are the best meatshields

>A stunned silence sweeps over the battlefield for a few moments as the presence of a Primarch seems to fill the massive room. It’s broken by the crazed charge of a lone Bezerker, who rushes Guilliman. But, with a speed that even the Ynnari would struggle to match, Guilliman neatly swings the Emperor’s Sword and cleaves the Bezerker in two.

Based Dead Berzerker

>enter Black Library for new releases
>Codex: Adeptus Custodes
>Click it
>404 Error

Black Library did an ooopsie.

>>52104796
So just fluff rape to sell models in not! Age of the Emperor grand alliance armies style.

Got it. What now Titans for the Tau, when they think those are stupid and use flyers to deal with them? Oh wait they did that already.

Killing their own IP for sales not sure how long they can pull that.

Axing 40k light is what 8th edition will be

>>52104867
LOL AWESOME OPINION ANON AGREE 100% XDDDDD

>>52104867
>it's a shitposter Doom Sayer episode

Tired of these reruns desu. 15 years now.

>>52104863
Is that codex for 40k? Or just 30k?

If 40k, why didn't they do "Defenders of Terra" with Custodes, SoS, SoB and maybe IF? So you know sell models and make something interesting at the same time?

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>>52104883
For 40k. And you know why, separating brings more money.

>>52104291
Where's the pic not made for gaunts.

>>52104883

I'd likely leave IF out of it. Not because they don't defend terra but because they do have enough models for a full army. The SOB are closest to a full army with the others but still short a lot of choices for it these days.

>>52104895
Literally the only thing the guy posted besides text.

>>52104007
> recruit them to my personal evil army
Your WANT an army of teen weeks and gross fat neckbeard WAAC offs?
Sounds like a shit army senpai

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>>52104882

not like we learned anything from WHFB and AoS...........................

>leave /tg/ because of the shitposters
>stay away because of all the bullshit rumours, shitposting, fluff spoiling and so on
>come back today
>filled with exactly the same shit except dialed up to 11

See you guys. There is no point staying here. /40kg/ is now officially DakkaDakka, BoLS and Whineseer tier.

>Custodes getting a codex

Cool, so that guarantees GKs will continue to be garbage because now another army does their gimmick better.

>>52104894
I forgot shit like Mechanicus I hardly see skittles or cog boys on their own.

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>>52104914
>bullshit rumours

It's all true though

>>52104882
Did you start playing around 5th edition or something?

They are doing the same shit that ended killing fantasy that is why I'm worried.

Guys, the Super Marines are literally confirmed in GS3.

Cawl is working on 2 great labours for Guilliman.

The armour and something secret on mars.

Super Marines, made with Guilliman's blood, over 10,000 years.

You know it makes sense.

>>52104695
>Special charicter
>champion-teir
nigga yo dumb

>>52104928
Mate. When End Times finished we had rumours that WHFB was staying except there was 5 factions, Lizardmen were squatted, Humans, Ogres and Dwarfs combined and so on. It was total bollocks.

We got told for months that SoB plastic update was TOTALLY happening guise.

We got told that Mortarion was the next Primarch, that Death Guard were getting models.

We got told that Khorne Berserker are getting new models.

We got told that the Tau were getting a super-heavy tank years ago.

None of it happened.

>>52104937
>Super Marines, made with Guilliman's blood,
More than 50% of loyalists have his blood already,

Expect extremis chamber and vanguard chamber marines with oversized bolters and chaplains spreading healing light
Now every marine army will have their own thunderwolf cavalry!

>>52104937
Stormcast marines like we didn't see that coming when Primarch bullshit show up.

Fantasy all over again. Fucking GW never learn

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How can I make this not shit

>>52104943
Fantasy staying was something told to store owners. Colosal dick move by GW. The try to milk Fantasy till the very end

>>52104931
WHFB died because nobody fucking played it. Go and look at the top selling wargame models 2 years before AoS. They weren't even in the Top 5.

WHFB died cause nobody played it. AoS is at least selling more and that's what GW wants.

People who moan about AoS, every time I call them on it, asking them to provide pictures of their army, they go "oh i didn't play, I just liked the setting :^)". Well there you go. I have 15k+ points of models. I have all the rulebooks. I supported it. Yet it's people who didn't, who read 1d4chan's pages or whatever and never touched a model who moan.

Those who had models just shrugged and stuck with whatever edition they wanted or made their own. People who moan are flufffags who never did anything with the hobby.

>>52104964
Post sources. My local bunker was told that the ranges were staying. That's not the same thing as fantasy staying.

>>52104967

>people who dislike aos don't even own fantasy models

lol nice meme mate

>>52104944
Nah, different. Pumped right into them during the process of making space marines, making them pseudo primarchs.

>>52104967
GW is that you?

Nobody play or buy new shit because you made that happen.

No new models in years for some armies. Fucking huge armies due to ever lower point cost. Box set with less models but higher prices. Horrible balance between armies.

You can't expect people to buy new shit for ever by sheer Stockholm syndrome for ever.

>>52104978
Hes not wrong though

>>52104993

He is though

>>52104988
Oh wow, are you a time travler from 2010?
>>52104996
I have had simialr expernces: every time i ask people who bash AoS what army they played they tell me they dont play. people who did play, genrally still do, for talking to the IRL people in my local

>>52104993
I only have some high elves left because I can't find anyone to sell them too.

There aren't some die hard fans out there. That just buy models to replace their counters since now the game is actually cheaper and affordable. Back then even buying a small set was an investment for like what 10 models? That didn't even made a single unit?

Fantasy die on 6th. That was when they where like 60% of GW income.

GW killed their game by going full greed mode

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Is this a fucking joke

>>52105021
That will be 10 quid please

>>52105021
3 units make an entire codex now.

Guys GW change! Yeah right. They are still trying to milk the fuck out of players.

Now wonder why the old fantasy players are so worried about 40k. Same fucking thing that killed their game. GW going way too greedy

>>52105021
This >>52105008 is you isnt it
you are not wrong mind

>>52105040
Yeah I crossposted, I'm pretty confused as to why they don't have rules for MODELS THEY ARE MAKING FOR CUSTODES.

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>1d4er fags bitching about AoS in a 40k thread

>>52105045
Because for some reasons GW things their FW company is their competion.

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>>52105058

>/40k general/ loves AoS

>>52105070
>getting triggered by AoS
>1d4fag calling himself 40k general

AoS is better than WHFB in every way but the amount of choice

>>52105106
Is not a rank and file game. You are comparing apples with a jet plane.

>>52105112
I'd take the jet plane personally in that case

>>52105106

aos has some nice things but the setting is shit and sigmarines are terrible.

>inb4 'B-B-But It'll get good in 30 years!"

>>52105122
Play warmachine at that point or Mordheim.

AoS is not a bad game now, but the competition is better.

>>52105136
>warmashit

>>52105058

>AoS people keep posting that image as if it doesn't make them look bad

>>52105136
Warmahordes is bad and people are jumping ship everywhere I go to

If they sigmar the rules but not the setting or army choices too much Ill be fine with it
Current 40k formation cheese needs to go

>>52105126
Nope and nope.

Now that we're really getting some details, like Hammerhal, it's great.

>>52105157
How do you know that they keep posting that image?

>>52104691
They're the Order Grand Alliance of 40k.

>>52105182
>>52105182

I popped in on their general a bunch of times around the two week General's handbook boom, even bought a few trees.

Then it became obvious the GHB had adressed none of the core flaws of the game and my local game store went right back to maybe two games of AoS a week on a busy week.

Don't really regret the tree purchase though, they're cool models at least.