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Space Marines Desert Eagles, Tau Are FN P90s, Orks Are Glocks edition

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FUKKEN XENOS!
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2nd for ADARKI AELDARI!
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Have Dante book been posted?
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>I2
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>>52064695

Anyone?
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>>52064653
Part of me wants the source on that pic.

But I shouldn't.
Christ I'm thirsty.


In other news, what comes after Gathering Storm Three?
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>>52064748
probably the storm
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do you necron fags like to put heavy destroyers in their own squad in the destroyer cult, or do you mix them with standard ones?

also negron triumvirate when?
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This triggers anons
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>>52064750
>Storm of Magic
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>>52064748
Gathering Storm 4 or they wait a few more months to do 8th edition.
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>>52064748
I assume another trilogy, it'll mosst likely be called "Storm of Chaos" and be about Chaos swarming the Imperium and if that snippet of demon primarchs is anything to go by then it might be a book about Mortarion, then another about Fulgrim and the last about whatever conclusion the campaign is supposed to have.
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>>52064775
>slaanesh in my christian thread?
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>>52064810
it's more likely than you think
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>>52064780
You mean Age of the Emperor
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>>52064775
It's quite original and cool
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>>52064814
anon dont do this while the thread is fresh and young, have some decency to at least wait till it hits the bump limit
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>>52064770
I use them in separate squads so I'm not wasting shots.
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>>52064653
fun fact, tau ladygirls dont have breasts no matter what rule 34 artists want you to think
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>>52064727
Releases on the 11th. Should be in stores or at your door around that day.
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>>52064779
Storm of Agemar.
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>>52064843
yeah but you can already hurt everything so its not loke marines saving their bolters while the one melta guy takes his shot, also a unit with that much boom in it is gonna get targeted down fast if they come down as one squad
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So who's going to kill Abbadon?

Cypher?
Girlyman?
A Daemon Primarch?
His own incompetence?
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>>52064748
Source is an artist named sexual yeti, apparently.
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>>52064872
I'd rather not be pumping str 5 ap 3 shots into a riptide instead of crisis suits.
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>>52064887
The last is gonna be involved no matter what happens.
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>>52064775
It wasn't the image that triggered people, it was the idea of using slaaneshi daemonettes as counts-as normal Sororitas.

The art is pretty good. The concept proposed was meh.
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>>52064828
Fine

What about using Legio Cybernetica in 40k, since no one plays 30k here.

Or Slaanesh demons with SoB like >>52064775
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>>52064887
he's gonna get nom'd by a swarmlord. digits confirm.
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>>52064847
but what about muh greater goods?
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>>52064887
He's probably gonna be part of the Chaos Trimulative.
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>>52064931
No one suspects sudden swarmlord?
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>>52064943
sorry bitch, enjoy your flat blue chests
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>>52064748

>Wanting a source for art that shit

Anon, I can't draw for shit, but I'm pretty sure it'd take me only 5 minutes to draw some crude tits on par with that.
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>>52064814
You guys joke but they are actually setting something like this up with this shit theyve been doing. Id literally make a bet on it
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>>52064653
I like that pic because the girls look extremely unsatisfied, with a look of "I thought humans could last longer than that..."
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>>52064991
Oh I know they are pulling an AoS shit like with 40k. GW is doing the same mistake that ended with fantasy and resulted into AoS.
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Are Nids getting Squatted in Age of Girlyman? Wanted to finally start 40k
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>>52064959
K fag, enjoy the rotting corpse of your autistic emperor.
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>>52065016
>caring about satisfying filthy xenos
hes being a good guardsmen
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>>52065048
Yes.
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>>52065048
My uncle works at GW and he told me that Nids actually become the protagonists of the setting in AotE
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>>52064887
Guard HWT with autocannon
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>>52065054
on a scale from "a bit odd" to "super smash bros melee pro" how autistic was the Big E?
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>>52065070
Now that would be simply amazing
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Are there any formations for Girlyman?

Ignoring those, what is the best way to support and use him in an army? I was thinking of a Conclave using Tigirius and two ML2 Librarians with AoD psychic powers to move him around. But I don't know what else to take in such an army; maybe Ultramarines or White Scars for a demi-company? Annihilation Strike Force?
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[repostan]

Quick thoughts?

Am I totally fucking myself by running my tac squads like I am or is that a serviceable setup outside of objectives? I've been told that dakkabacks compensate for 4 guys, but I've also been told that the weapons don't last long enough to make the reduced squad size worthwhile.
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>>52062178
But fluffwise Orks are the race that has come the closest to destroying the Imperium.
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>>52065065
my dad is Duncan and he told me that they mostly base their market decisions off of whoever gets dubs on /tg/

>the only reason AoS happened is because someone got quads after saying they hoped fantasy got squated
>dad doesnt care though, he just keeps painting
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>>52065076
Depends on the writer with BL super autistic.

God I hate the Horus Heresy novels, BL can't write gods and demi gods for shit.
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>>52065110
according to the emperor himself chaos has already defeated the imperium

>>52065121
>gods and demigods
but that basically is every HH story
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>>52065076
He was autistic liek the Lion was autistic. He just didn't understand the little guy. That's why he was so pissed when everyone started worshipping him. He wanted to be a leader, not a god, but he literally did not realize that humanity needed someone to look up to, or that he was that person. Also appeared to be completely incapable of understanding that people didn't know everything he did re: worship and why (he thought) it was a fundamentally bad concept which served to empower Chaos.

However he was an excellent statesman and had charisma in spades so he's still less autistic than Lion.
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>>52065119
>dad doesnt care though
He does care anon, ask him about the Bretonnians
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The emperor was a mutant aberration.
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should i build my sicarians as rust stalkers or infiltrators? i kinda like the look of the transonic blades on the rust stalkers but over all both units look like they might struggle
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>>52065132
the best description of the Lion was that while Russ was a man masquerading as an animal the Lion was an animal masquerading as a man
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>>52065130

Fuck off chaos fag, that book wasn't worth the paper it was printed on and I refuse to accept it as canon.
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>>52065174
Russ hated all that furry shit though. He was literally only a Space Wolf ironically.

Going into battle with a pair of direwolves didn't count for some reason but it's pretty metal so long as he didn't ride them.
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>>52065175
>i refuse to accept facts presented right in front of me because they mess up my personal canon
id imagine you are a creationist too right?
#notmyemperor
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>>52065130
Chaos hasn't defeated the Imperium as it is, unlike the Orks almost did in the Beast Rises books. As in eradicating the state. Chaos destroyed the Emperor's Imperium, what he wanted it to be and what he wished for humanity.
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>>52065197
>Direwolves
Indeed as long you don't ride them or use a slade with them pulling. You can have your battle dogs with you.
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>>52065204
Let's be honest, Horus Heresy books can be fun to read, but they are shit.

The Emperor, Primarchs and marines are mentally retarded in all of the books.
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>>52065150
no u
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>>52065197
rip Leman's dogs, magnus killed them both at the burning of prospero

>git gud loyalist furfags
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GW store staff can't take holidays between June 3rd and 17th.

8th ed incoming.
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>>52065152
infiltrators with tasers and flechette blasters is superior to all other option.
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>>52065150
no u
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Some friends getting me back in to play 'combat patrol,' after not having played 40k in years, how does this look? It's supposed to be fluffed as a sort of light scouting platoon, I realize I would probably be better off with carapace on the vets and some sort of transport, but muh light infantry. I could dump the ratlings and shuffle weapons around for a taurox if I reeeally need it, but I like the hobbits.
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>>52065197
Weren't they his brothers?
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>>52065252
>yfw Fagnus helped Russ free himself of furry imagery as the final step on the path to becoming one of the best Primarchs
>yfw Tzeentch planned for this because he liked Russ more all along
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>>52065303
>tzeentch thinks magnus is a dumbass and wants literally any other primarch
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ill start with the obvious, most people do not make lists at 400 pts, 500 is the standard

your command squad will sit in the back all game, give them a LC or an AC, heavy bolter is the worst statistically for every armour value and T+S
ratlings are cool
armoured sentinels are cool at low points
infiltrating plasma vets are sorta cool, though i like mine in chimerias

honestly i would drop foward sentries and work on buying two chimerias to get yourself up to 500 and ahve a nice little force

otherwise pretty good list
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>>52065250
>>52065269
you know it's true
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>>52065328

>he can't do any better than magnus because all the other primarch's are too smart to fall for his retarded bullshit.
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>>52065295
If by brothers you mean the lost Primarchs, no and get your shitty /tg/ headcanon the fuck outta here. Otherwise yes, they were a part of the wolf litter he was raised with. The rest of them died.
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>>52065303
>Got beaten by another nerd and space elves 10000 years later.
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>>52065295
yes
freki and geri i think were their names

>sorry for bad fenrisian, i'm still learning
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>>52065218
>slade with them pulling.
What about pulling them in a sled?
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Do BA get free transports through formations? I know marines do if they take 2 demi-companies, but don't know if BA can and how they do.
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>>52065363
....perfection
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>>52065358
tfw cypher has a higher BS than girlyman
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>>52065303
I think Tzeentchian Space Wolves are plausible. I know people assume that if the rout fell to chaos they would OBVIOUSLY be Khorne, but I think they fit themes of change very well, both in the fact they physically change over their lives (or immediately in the case of wulfen) and the duplicity of them "totally just PRETENDING to be savages bro".
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>>52064847
Funner fact, rule 34 art almost always has larger tits than the actual character. See jynx and wind runner art for example
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>>52065212
Actually, the Eldar can in book three and said the Orks will fail as they are always destined to do. They also said that Chaos is the true enemy that should be focused on.

The rest of the series drives the point of the Orks being a lesser threat to Chaos whenever it could.
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>>52065358
>Only Grand Master
>Not SUPREME GRANDMASTER LORD!
When will Draigo make his triumphant return?
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>>52064897
Yeah this is the reason to split them up. Necrons do not have many high str low ap weapons, wasting shots with the ones we have isnt ideal.
>>52064872
Every necron player knows the pain of rolling below average when it comes to gauss, 40 shots into a knights non-shielded ass should be enough but it never is.
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>>52065252
Nope they appear in the wolf king novella
More likely they end up dead by Horus
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>>52064887
Celestine for muh progressive gurl power. It's already been set up, he smacked her shit on Cadia and now she'll get revenge
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>>52065401
dragio personally appeared becuase the plot demanded it, and he was so impressed with voldus he made him Grant Master on the spot!!!
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>>52065358
what roman leader does gorilla man most resemble in action?

>ave true to roboute
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>>52065363
Fuck you I can't stop laughing you fucking cocksucking piece of trash I will find you and fucking murder you.
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>>52065331
Thanks for the feedback, just as a heads up they're planning on using this ruleset i believe, at least to start with:
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Combat_Patrol

chimeras and artillery will probably be my first choices if I choose to get full on back into the game. The wyvern looks sexy as hell
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>>52065425
im a guard player and i fap to wyverns

two squads of two will vaporize most units
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>>52065017
Except it wouldnt kill 40k because we aren't complete grognard faggots like fantasy players are.

And AoS is a good game, faggot
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>>52065421
>Supreme Grand Master Lord Kaldor Draigo hands his title to Voldus as he no longer needs it, seeing as he is being promoted to Primarch of the Ultramarines by Roboutte Guilliman
>Rise of the Primarch is actually about Kaldor Draigo
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>>52064887
Sangy final prophecy from the new Dante book has Abaddon fighting an "Angelic" warrior who is buying time for the Emperor to be reborn as Chaos and the Tyranids are flooding in to consume him.

Abaddon slays the Angelic warrior and it's unclear if he succeeds or not in giving the Emperor enough time to rise ftom his throne.
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>>52065303
Nah, inferno hints that Tzeentch wants arhiman, to the point that all other 1k sons (except maybe the blood ravens) are dead, and Tzeentch just makes them appear to be alive to keep Arhiman under his control.

That, plus the fixing the rubric thing in GS2, makes me think that he may actually switch sides in this whole thing. Not like he's a big fan of chaos anyways. Punished Arhiman searching for redemption from could chaos could actually be pretty cool.
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>>52065017
except 40k isnt failing miserably like fantasy was

butthurt fantasy fags will feint that everything was just fine but fucking LotR was outselling fantasy near the end, and not even when movies were coming out
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>>52065281
>401pts
I hope you at least let your friends know that you cheat
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>>52065473
Fucking Chaos retards getting in the way. If they weren't taking up space being worthless fags the Tyranids could solo that shit.
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>>52065478
>legitimately wanting arhiman
>when his big thing is being a teamkilling fucktard not just for the imperium, but he got most of his own legion fucked to shit by him being completely fucktarded.
anon plz, hes magnus tier dumb.
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>>52065478
Wrath of Magnus and Gathering Storm makes it clear that Ahriman truly seeks power and conquest. He is using the Rubric thing to self delude himself into thinking that his pursuit of power and knowledge is for anyone but himself.
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>>52065478
can we have him talking to magnus in an epic speech about why they are still here if only to suffer?
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>>52065494
40k could use a major streamlining of the rules though, its a cumbersome mess right now
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>>52065263
yeah thats a good shout, just thought the AP2 of the transonic blades would be the best bet but the tasers will overwhelm the enemy unit with wounds
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>>52065503
Please tell me you're satirizing the people who say that shit whenever someone posts a list 1 point over.
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>>52065516
>Complains about a character being a teamkilling fucktard
Ahriman isn't known as "The Betrayer".
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>>52065494
>lotr outselling fantasy
Now that's just Fucking embarrassing, no wonder fantasy got axed
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>>52065544
streamlining=/= AoSing

but yeah i agree, ill probably be a bit salty when i feel like 8th isnt the same as what ive been playing, but im sure ill come to realize how awesome it is
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>>52065556
because everyone he ever betrayed is not in a high enough mental state to name him such especially Magnus
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Fuck it. I'm not playing a watered down army because there's a chance my opponents won't be able to deal with it. I won't go all out though I guess
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>>52065546
I'll give you one guess
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>>52065530
>He is using the Rubric thing to self delude himself into thinking that his pursuit of power and knowledge is for anyone but himself.
Well yeah, but that doesn't mean he can't seek redemption. Not like the imperium isn't full of self serving assholes. At least he tries and claims that he's doing it for a good reason.
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>>52065556
Actually, he is called a traitor in literally the first second of the Wrath of Magnus trailer.
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>>52065563
yeah its true, people dont realize fantasy was making zero monies and noone played it outside the very hardcore aging groups, AoS is much more successful and people actually play it and love it now that the growing pains are done

>i personally dislike it and dont want 40k to go that route but i am just one anon
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This is basically all I own, /40kg/, what should I buy next to bulk out thel ist? I was thinking some raptors or bikers, but I"m solely tempted by some allied daemons or a renegade knight or something. Or just more normal CSM.
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Will the plastic tartaros terminators get rules for 40k?

and will plasma blasters, autocannons, and volkites be allowed?
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>>52065576
only if you give me one extra point in my list
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>>52065607
yes and yes

whens the last time 40k didnt have rules for a plastic model or not include rules for a weapon that comes on the sprue
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>>52065564
the trouble is that people will mistake it for such even if the lore remains intact
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>>52065626
Tyranids. For about 3 straight editions now.
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>>52065507
The Tyranids wouldn't get past the angel warrior.
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>>52065566
Magnus is like that once super genius savant who used cocaine to think faster and its made him a gibbering mess, he's still "smart" but hes not functional
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>>52065642
sorry i should have said a new plastic model, as in from current edition
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>>52064887
After absorbing the powers of the chaos gods and becoming a god amongst gods, a la Kefka, the remaining loyalist Primarchs, a few notable people like Bjorn, and Magnus plus the Thousand/Prodigal Suns will fight him in a glorious battle that will rend the warp and kill it off for good after top knot is killed by Sly Marbo donkey punching him.
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Anyone know where to get black tactical marine arrows, or am I going to have to parkinsons freehand this shit?
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>>52065666
trips confirms

age of marbo
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>>52065649
>billions of organisms, some of which are as heavily genetically engineered as a Primarch
>not getting past one guy
Knowing our current shit writers, probably true, but oh lord what I wouldn't give to have the good writers back.
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>>52065595
Go to the mega in the OP and download the traitor legions book. You will probably want to give the Empreror's children decurion a try and fill out what you need for the formations you want. Also, slaanesh bikers are amazing, get those over raptors
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>>52064653
Hey guys, pic related is my first ever Warhammer figure I painted from three years ago, I thought it looked great when I first did it, but now that I actually know how to paint and have painted countless dudes, it looks "thin your paints" compilation-tier.

I want to strip the paint and do it right as this chaos cultist looks neat design wise, but I've glued his weapon into place, how will I paint the back of the weapon and the areas obscured by it?

(Also sorry for shit image quality, my phone is ancient.)
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What's the cheapest way to go about getting a full 20 man Crusader squad with Chainswords?

Buy Burning of Prospero, sell off the stuff I don't need? Main issue is getting enough swords for everyone without spending 66€ for 10 Assault Marines with swords or buying several Black Templar upgrade sets, since every set only comes with 6 Chainswords and 4 other melee weapons.

Also no idea if there's a way to save cash on getting 10 Scouts. Was thinking buying Land Speeder Storms for the Scouts and selling the Land Speeder itself for cheap, but that doesn't come with melee poses and probably not even enough weapons.
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>>52065691
very carefully
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>>52065626
That's what I'm hoping for

>>52065642
>>2017 and still wasting the potential designed into the sprues for a multitude of biomorphs
What a waste. Every unit in the book other than the flying tyrant has obviously had one of its legs surgically removed to handicap it.
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>>52065691
If he's your first ever mini, don't repaint him. Keep him as is.

It's a good keepsake and you can look back to see how far you've progressed.
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>>52065626
Orks.

There are a number of weapons on the Nob sprue that have no rules.
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>>52065691
Never repaint your original model, my man. It's good to look back and see how much you've improved.
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>>52065573
How hard is it to build two lists and then show your opponent the one with a power level more fitting to face off against his army? Just because you know he's playing Tau doesn't mean he's going to bring a Riptide Wing and multiple Stormsurges faggot. It'll be you who's that guy if you crush his fluffy suitless combined arms style army with bikespam and grav.
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>>52065675
Abby's silly termy armor won't protect the back of his head from Marbo's fist.
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>>52065666
>Abbadon becoming Kefka
He hasn't the stones for it.
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>>52065685

I have traitor legions, yeah; I'm planning to run a Rapture Battallion once I have enough stuff; I think all I need at this point actually is raptors/bikers/warp talons and some havocs, since I've been told helbrutes are shit--though can you use dreadnought options instead of helbrutes? Could I bring a sonic dread instead of it in a chaos warband?
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Ugh...

I just payed for a $170 Z order that I was really hoping to have my taxes for first, but I'm still waiting for that. However, I'm a first time Z and didn't want to fuck it up.
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>>52065779
Not sure on the dread question, pretty sure that RAW is no until/unless FW says otherwise. Personally, I would be all for it so ask your opponent. Bikers > raptors > warp talons. For havocs just buy a box of CSM and then buy the guns online.
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If removing abaddon, the only undivided legionnaire with the clout and background to bind traitor legions together as the biggest, baddest actual astartes, I can't really see any other named undivided legionnaires fillling his shoes.

IMO they're more likely than ever to bring back Lorgar to lead the traitors due to his relationship with guilliman and magnus.
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>>52065651
I heard he launched an attack on Sol, without any proper backup from other factions. If that's true, then seriously, what the fuck? How could he have thought it would be a good idea to attack the most heavily fortified region of space in the galaxy? Half a dozen of his bros couldn't pull it off even with prep time.
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No idea what to do for that fourth infantry slot so I just thought of dropping them in and letting the squad combat squad onto Objectives and filled the rest with upgrades.

Thoughts?

Yeah, I'll die to pieplate weapons with AP 3 but I'd rather that than not play my dudes fluffy.
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So what's the standard game size for 40k? I know aos is 2000 usually, and I'd like to transfer over with daemons. Also, how are slaanesh daemons in 40k?
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>>52065866
It's Huron time now.
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>>52065866
Heck, the Word Bearers never split, unlike any of the other legions, as well as not liking the Black Legion or Abbadon.
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>>52065893
Anywhere between 1250 and 2k, 1850 is the tournament meta so all the WAACs play that, real men play 1500.

Slaanesh Daemons are decent but mono-Slaanesh suffers.
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>>52065893
1850 is usually considered the standard, though anywhere from 1000 to 2000 is pretty typical.
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>>52065893
>how are slaanesh daemons in 40k?
About to get the boot.
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>>52065626
If the rumors are any indication: Fallen.
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>>52065893
AoS =/= 40k points, but 1500-2000 is where most games are. Slaanesh daemons are mediocre in 40k.
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>>52065887
Illegal, needs a unit from another faction.
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>>52065925

No it doesn't.
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>>52065899
Ain't no 10,000 year old veteran of the long war gonna take orders from an upstart renegade. Even a powerful renegade.
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>>52065925
So drop the HKMs and the LRC's storm bolter and buy a barebones Inquisitor. Spring for Rad Grenades and power armor if you can afford them
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>>52065908
>>52065908
Was thinking of mixing a nurgle incursion of about 1k points, with a cad with rotflies and daemonettes and something else.
>>52065916
Shit
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Do we know what the 40k Fallen list looks like? Do they have enough for a standalone force or are they just ally-fodder?
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>>52065945

don't listen to him, he's lying. Slaanesh isn't going anywhere.
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>>52065936
>This Detachment must also include units that have at least two different Factions.
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I know astartes are unmatched when it comes to physical prowess buy how do they stack up when compared to the imperial navy? Especially considering how huge the entire navy is vs the size
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>>52065936
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>>52065836

Alright then. So I guess the next purchase will be some bikers, then more CSM and some weapon bits (Autocannons, maybe?) and then a single chaos spawn.
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>>52065973
Outnumbered and outgunned. This is intentional to prevent astartes coups.
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>>52065423
Biggus Dickus
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>>52065925
>>52065940
Oh, true, whoops.

Here's a correction.
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>>52065959
Purple clawed babes better be here to stay. Idk what's happening to aos's slaanesh
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I'm building an iron hands force, currently have no space marine models. Already have an idea of what it's going to look like.

Question is: I'm also interested in building it for 30k as well. Going to be making it out of mk2-6 armor, mainly the mk3 and 4 from the box sets. I know there'll be issues with special and heavy weapons and I'll need extras because of squad differences.

I want a mechanized Iron Hands army. What kind of 30k stuff should I invest in outside of the backwards compatible 40k stuff like the rhino chassis vehicles? And is it worth using the various 30k FW stuff that has 40k rules in a 40k game, or should I just stick to codex models?
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>>52066004
Alternatively, because Zealot + Hatred feels like somewhat wasted points:
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>>52065723
Aww now im sentimental, heres my first marine vs one of my most recent
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>>52065887
>>52065925
Just stick Greyfax in there. She's BFFs with Templars.
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>>52065666
I thought you said kofka.
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When we get turned into 40k:the 2nd crusade or whatever they are gonna name it later this year, do you think any armies will actually get squatted or is it just going to be somekind of rules crunch? Maybe some meme armies like SoB will just get relugated to a few special formations?
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>>52066031
I would but 150 points is so fucking expensive and I'm not convinced if cutting things down to this is worth it.
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>>52066093

Hey man don't wish evil on my sisters, that isn't cool. I put a lot of time money and love into that army. They aren't a meme to me.

And I don't think they will squat anything, just change up rules.
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Do Tallarn have a formation or something? If not what does a modern Mechguard list look like?

I wanna start a Tallarn army because I hate myself.
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>>52066093
RIP Bretonnia
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>>52066093
If bet that eldar dark eldar and harlequins get put into all one stupid expensive codex. I predict the Tau getting buffed, and a nerf hitting nids.
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>>52066093
The imperium will be one army with each sub-faction being handled via formations. Chaos and all its sub-factions will be handled the same. Eldar and dark eldar might also be put under the aeldari but maybe not.
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>>52055856
To the anon from last night.

I assume you are playing Night Lords for that group? eBay is truly your friend. I got two Rhino chassis's and hulls for $32. Was zoggin' awesome. Only put one together and gave it to my Iron Warriors.

Don't know if they should have both, but I think I might save it if I do go for an Imperium force at some point.

Just got a Wraithknight on eBay for $80 NIB shipped. Didn't think the seller would take that offer to be honest.

Now, I HAVE to sell my Tau so I can pay off the rest of my recent Eldar splurges.
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>>52066149
This is what I think is going to happen too
Its all gonna get crunched to formations with special rules inside like 5 codexs
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>>52066170
There will be 7 books.

Imperium, Chaos, Aeldari, Orks, Necrons, Tyranids, Tau Empire
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Why are GS3 story spoilers so slow in coming
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>>52066170
>>52066149

Its going to be Grand alliance Imperium, Grand alliance Eldar, and Grand Alliance Chaos. It'll work the same way it does in AoS. Don't know what they will do with the Tau Crons Nids and Orks though.
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>>52066201
Codex:xenos
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>>52066201
Necrons will get squatted, you heard it here first.
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>>52066189
I mean, it'll save me money and trees, right?
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>>52066201
Hope we don't see too much of an options crunch with that sort of system. Chapter Tactics for SM and Traitors is nice for adding some fluff into the game.
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Go to any gw, take the little card stock label on the shelves and flip one over.
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>>52065699
There's no cheap alternatives for a good looking Templar army. I wanted my initiates to have robes so I bought dark angel vets + Templar upgrade kits. Unless you find a sick deal online you're gonna be paying full price
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>>52066216
Can be just as many options, just give people shitloads of formations with must contain rule
But it will all be in a few books
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>>52066212
If they get squatted my asspain will open a warpstorm
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>>52064653
So I'm putting together a Raptor Talon, but the Lord with Jump Pack has been sold out for months/looks like shit. Where would be a good start for kitbashing one together? I want him to stand out from the regular Raptors for easy identification.
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>>52066214

If it follows the AoS moddel (which it will) you'll actually be able to get the data slates for all the units for free. All you'd need to buy would be formations (which could be handled through the app and doesn't require purchase of the whole book) and the core Rulebook (also purchasable through app). No more need for Codexes as we know them.
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>>52066207
They're not putting all the other Xenos into one book.

It will be exactly 7.

Tau Empire will get some auxiliary love in the form of Kroot again and possibly others, Tyranids and Genestealer Cults will be bundled together, Orks will have some extensive focus on looting stuff from other Factions... and I'm not sure what's happening with Necrons.
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>>52066198
Because nice guys finish last.
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>>52066222
My biggest hope is currently swaying a friend into buying Burning of Prospero and either sharing the pack in general or just giving the chainswords to me since he won't need them for his Imperial Fists.

I wish they'd sell Burning of Prospero MK3 sprues separately and not having to go through bit sellers to maybe sell the separate sprue. Or just sell a Chainsword pack, like they do with Meltas and Jump Packs. Finding a bit store that just sells a bunch of Chainswrods + Bolt Pistols in a pain in the ass.
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Do you reckon I'd get much shit for using Scions as count-as Skitarii? I figure I could use the regular helmet'd scions as vanguard and convert cloaks/use the beret'd heads for rangers.

I figure radium carbine's statline matches a suped-up lasgun anyway.

Love the Scion models and fluff but fuck trying to play an army of them. Hate Skitarii fluff but like their crunch.
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>>52066280
>I wish they'd sell Burning of Prospero MK3 sprues separately
They are literally going up for preorder this Saturday you absolute fool.
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>>52066217
Why?
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My sisters are gonna survive 8th ed right?
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>>52066280
But anon, they're literally just about to sell those mk3 guys separately.
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>>52066287
>hate skitarii fluff
>>>/out/
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>>52066300
>>52066290
Well, that's hella convenient. Didn't say anything, in that case.

Now to find a way to get 20 more Scouts for "cheap".
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>>52066287
Would probably depend on the people you play with. Just ask. My group uses stand in models all the time.
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>>52066267
But I actually like hard copies
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>>52066295
They just got new plastic models that sold amazingly, the most at risk faction is nids but I've heard all main armies are selling well so all should survive
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>>52066300
For how much? Ebay has them for $30 per 10.
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Which primarch would look best in women's underwear? Asking for a friend.
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>>52066354
Fulgrim
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>>52066324

So do I, and they'll still sell them, but for those who just want bits and pieces you'll be able to buy in app. Or go look at the stat line for something your considering buying into or playing against.

Speaking of I really need to read up on Death Guard in Traitor legions before my next game...
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>>52066354
Fulgrim is my waifu
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>>52064653
does anyone have a codex angels of death pdf?
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>>52066354
Sanguinius. Fulgrim is for unironic faggots, Sangy is man enough to wear that shit like he owns it.
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>>52065104

Always just take 5. Tac squads are fairly inefficient anyway, and you don't want to pay for the second half. If you want more squads, just buy another 5 and you still get your Sergeant options.

The LasPlas Razorbacks might be a problem though, as they can only fire one weapon on the move and that RAW counts as 2.
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If I'm playing against a death guard player in a league odds are it's running Traitor legions right?
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>>52066392
Yes.
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>>52064653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiT4t6hdklI

some kinda preorder dlc
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40k War Room but with an actual budget would be pretty amazing.
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>>52066392
Probably spamming bikes and havocs cause they do it so well
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>>52066354
Sanguinius. Despite what Graham has tried to sell, Fulgrim is not a pretty bloke. I'd rather see Rowboat in laces and frills than see Fulgrim wear them.
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>>52066406
It's not even DLC, just not!skins for the not!heroes/champions/whateverfaggymobaterm.

I already knew about this but it really bamboozles my brainjars, I give this b8 a 10/8.
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How are emperors children? I really like the 3rd legion
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>>52066448
They're actually pretty good but they tend to go under the radar since everyone here in /40kg/ doesn't actually play the game and only knows the memes of Death Guard and World Eaters.
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>>52066301
>Liking Maximum Grim-Derp
>Mecha-Ostriches they have run on treadmills when not in battle because no one can figure out how to stop them since their creator died
>Donkey-tank drivers are all wired into the tanks and slowly die from the stress
>Vanguard are all advanced-stage cancer patients due to rad-guns
>Sawing your legs off below the knee somehow gives you god-like stamina
>Skitarii uniforms are self-lubing and designed to never be taken off
>Eye-lids are surgically removed so Skitarii can't deny the Tech-Priests their data by closing their eyes
>DEPLOY TO ALL THEIR BATTLES BY FUCKING FOOT
>EVEN IF IT TAKES THEM MONTHS TO REACH THE BATTLEFIELD

No thanks, I'll stick with my weaponized orphans.
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Best way to do Deathwatch? As a main force or allied to a more numerous force?
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>>52066406
>skin pack
Why is this a thing? Is the Army Painter not going to be in DoW III? If so, I'm really fucking sad. I was hoping they'd improve upon it too, like add bitz that you can customize your army with. For example when the IG DLC comes out you could make a Death Korps army if you wanted to.
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>>52066406
>Lady Solaria doesn't have a chainsword

False advertising!
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>>52066496
Then use the Scions codex.
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>>52066300
I always miss out on these pre-order announcements.

Where was that?
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>>52066448
bretty gud.
I love 'em.
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>>52066512
Good fucking lord that looks gorgeous.
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>>52066512
Well, Lady Solaria is clearly blue, not red.
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>>52066496
>>Skitarii uniforms are self-lubing and designed to never be taken off
That sounds so fucking stupid.
Shame there isn't any more media about grimdark operators
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>>52066509
They did a similar thing in DoW2. Faction-specific DLC packs with new models, but locked into one scheme without mod support.

In fact, DKoK WAS one of said DLC packs. Sure, you could make a Death Korps army, but only if they were literally Death Korps and nothing else.

With SEGA at the helm I do not doubt for a second that there will be more of this shit, though from gameplay videos we at least know there is an army painter option in the game (but not what it does, as far as I know).

>>52066531
Too bad the actual game looks like shit.
>yet it's somehow still 50gb
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>>52066406
>Total War Warhammer had Chaos Warriors as preorder bonus, plus multiplayer Bretonnia and tons of free stuff later
>Dow3 gets three races and dick
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Todays Duncan is underwhelming.

Basing the same as he bases everything ever? Oh, a second dry brush! Fancy!
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>>52066496
>deploy to all their battles by foot
In the fluff, they usually drop entire Maniples in via orbital dropships and then move up the planet in a wall of Photon and Neutron Laser fire.
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>>52065691
>"Yeah, organic!!, he rides bloodbag."

>"Righto"
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>>52066565
Wasn't the chaos thing supposed to be baid day one DLC until negative publicity almost shut them down?

And unless I missed something, they still don't have skaven, so Total Warhammer is an absolute bust.
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>>52066496
>Sawing your legs off below the knee somehow gives you god-like stamina
This one actually makes sense. Your body uses less energy to maintain itself since there's less meat to maintain.
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>>52065607

I hope these become available to Chaos or to Space Wolves rather than standard space marines, it would be a nice way of differentiating special terminators.
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>>52066615
>reddit rats
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>>52065121
The books seem so up and down.
I really liked Descent of Angels even if it read like YA fiction, because it wasn't just "McGuffin turned em ebil."

While Horus had a bit of lead in it really seemed like it came down to being stabbed by evil sword, and Fulgrim was finding an evil sword etc. Meanwhile, The Fallen it shows actual reasons for bitterness where they can be turned.
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>>52066628
I like skaven tho
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>>52066615
>free heroes and a faction as DLC
>still actively supported and cared about
>keep expanding their faction roster
>>absolute bust
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>>52066628
Are skaven popular amongst reddit folks? That's understandable since Skaven and Lizardmen are clearly the best Fantasy races.
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Do we have a White Dwarf PDF of the March issue?
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how did I do
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>>52066628
Fuck you, Skaven are great.
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if I'm a poorfag should I even be trying to invest in this hobby?
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>>52066666
>66666
CHAOS
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>>52066653
I don't give two shits whether Reddit like something or not. Lizardmen are fucking awesome because who doesn't like Aztec Lizard Wizards?

>>52066666
Witnessed. You're playing Emperor's Children now, by the way.
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>>52066679
Do you consider 30-60$ a month expensive?
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>>52066653
They are lolsorandumb
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>>52066681
HWEE HAVE CAPTORED IT.. FOHR CHAYOSS
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>>52066666
THE CHAOS GODS SPEAK CLEARLY NOW
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>>52066666
It's a sign you should play emperors children
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>>52065411
>Celestine for muh progressive gurl power.

You do realize that an youthful/weak/innocent person defeating ultimate Evil through faith alone is, like, a staple of Christian theology, right?
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>>52066679

Play Custodes or Deathwatch, you literally only use like twenty models in your entire army
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>>52066695

This. Honestly it's not bad as long as you pace yourself and spread it out. A kit or a pot of paint every few weeks isn't going to break you if you budget right. It's when you drop hundreds and try to buy the whole army at once that it hurts.
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>>52066666
FOR THE DARK GODS

DEATH FOR THE FALSE EMPEROR
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>>52066556
The entire aesthetic is also completely off. The lighting and scenery make it look like a starcraft clone.
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>>52066666
HA HA! TIME FOR SLAANESH!
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>>52066666
Yup, it's time to jack off again
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I'm trying to decide if the thread is so circular that the same things just keep coming up or if I'm tripping. Fucking deja vu. Feels like I've seen this exact sequence of posts before.
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>>52066726
>recommending Custodes to a poorfag
>recommending Deathwatch to anyone
He should be playing GK or Marines, the latter because it's so easy to buy entire armies off of Ebay and the former because the army is so shit all the WAACs from 5th are still trying to get rid of theirs
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>>52066726

What if I want to play the scenarios in gathering storm
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>>52066334
Ebay will pretty much always be cheaper.
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>>52066665
I want the February issue, but looks like we don't even have that yet.
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>>52066512
That bisecting cut isn't even that bad, that can be repaired and the pilot probably survived.
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>>52066761
>50$
Holy shit, I am so getting a bunch of those guys off of eBay.
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>>52066759
Custodes and SoS are in third book.
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>>52065594
Fantasy was doing poorly because GW had killed the ability to get into it with an astronomical barrier to entry. Fixing fantasy wouldn't have been hard.
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>>52066509
Its gonna be a thing.
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>>52066756
>I2
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>>52066512
It bugs me how the Knight just shoulder charges right into the WK and stuffs the sword elbow-deep. Like, what does it do next? Both of them will tumble to the ground and being a retardedly topheavy walker the Knight won't be able to get back up again.
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>>52066786

Do you mean to say they are reprinted there?
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>>52066512
There's knights in the latest trailer with chainswords. Wraith knights with double guns too.
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>>52066531
Most pre-rendered trailers do.

It's almost like they're trying to sell you something.
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>>52066775
Yup, pilot is almost certainly alive, bit of spot welding on the waist and it's good to go.

Compared to the Wraithknight which is an irreplacable loss.

Good trade.
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>>52066807
The thing is that it'll most definitely kill the Wraithknight's pilots in the process, while the Knight pilot will probably get out unscathed and even if he dies, it's still a far, far bigger loss on the Eldar side.
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>>52066836
But the Wraithknights only living pilot is situated in its head, aren't they? I know they are in the Eldar Titans.

And the constructs themselves are just sung out of thin air, unlike Knights.
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>when you post your list for critique and acquire GET with your only replies referring to it instead
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>>52066807
>being a retardedly topheavy walker the Knight won't be able to get back up again.

Even if this is true, they just killed a wraithknight in exchange for one destroyed/badly damaged knight and one that needs to be stood back up. That's like losing two guardsmen to take down an autarch.

And I'm pretty sure a knight could push itself up off the ground.
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Did you know Cadians have violet eyes
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So
>buy Burning of Prospero for 120€
>sell Custodes for 30-40€
>sell SoS for 30€
>sell Ahriman and Fell-Handed for 7-12€ each
>keep 30 Mk3 Marines with Chainswords and special weapons for around 20-30€
Is the only proper way of getting these guys, right?
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>>52066857
Shouldn't have involved the dark prince then anon.
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>>52066698
... Because some of their shit goes wonky based on dice-rolls?

I guess plasma is reddit trash too because of gets hot.
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>>52066857
>playing Death Guard
>not using 7 bikes
What do you want us to say? It's a fairly standard list that should do well. I'd worry about not having two squads of bikes but you invested in Spawn so maybe that's okay.
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>>52066854
Yeah, but the pilots are a living twin and a dead twin, which is in a soulstone located on the torso, which just got chainsawed.

The other twin is either dead from psychic feedback having been linked to their dead twin, or at the very least won't be able to pilot the wraithknight anymore.
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>>52066725
Jesus was a girl. The bible is a patriarchal cover up.
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>>52066871
Yup. Fags who can't Ebay don't know what they're missing out on.

>tfw built a Knight army for 150 bongbucks by selling a kit and sprues out of Renegade when it was around
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>>52066167

Yea, I'm playing NL for that group and for 30k, too. I've had mixed results with ebay, personally. Unless it's china, the savings really haven't been that great from what I've seen. Like 10-15% at best, and at worst higher than MSRP. I keep scouring, though.

I am dipping into other reserves to pay for my recent splurged under the excuse that I'm getting my tax money soon.

I still haven't put any more together
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>>52066807
>Like, what does it do next? Both of them will tumble to the ground and being a retardedly topheavy walker the Knight won't be able to get back up again.

Yeah, but he got to kill a Wraithknight. A guaranteed kill on a Titan belonging to an ancient xenos race whose loss is completely irreplaceable to his race. It's a war machine that even the most arrogant Scion would admit is at least his equal, and the veterans would know is often more than a match for a human-piloted Knight. That's a massive boost to his social standing in his House and a battle he'll talk about for the rest of his life.

Alternatively, the dude is like super-enthusiastic about his job.

WHAT MAKES THE GRASS GROW?

BLOOD MAKES THE GRASS GROW!
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>>52066552
Scion tacticle shooter when?
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>>52066915
Was thinking of trying to find one of those 2 Knight bundles they had when they were new if they don't change anything sbout how Knights can be used or nerf the War Convo dead.

Last time I saw that package on eBay it sold for like 120 bucks max. That'd mean paying as much for 2 Knights as you would for 2 Kastelan units and you'd get a free huge landscape piece as well.
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>>52066761

>$50 MKIII
>$60 Tarts
>mfw

I thought GW was supposed to be getting better
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>>52066937

>Republic commando-esque tempestus scions game

He'll thst might get me to play video games again.
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>>52066951
it's their way of telling people to buy the boxed games
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>>52066937
>CoD 40k happens
>hobby infected with a cancer so bad even /v/ would turn up its nose
>>
where does /tg/ go for its 40k news and articles?
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>>52066963
>Republic Commando with Scions

holyfuckyes
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>>52066983
I use /40kg/...
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>>52066983
Warhammer Community, the blogs of some of the previously reliable rumormongers, and /tg/
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>>52066951
They want ya to buy the whole box for the discount.

I guess they still make the moneys even if it's hordes of ebayers buying the boxes and selling the pieces
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>>52066985

The only flaw would be the lack of glove knife. I loved the fucking glove knife. Knifed all the shit. But I would get to use a chain sword and plasma pistol, and that would probably make up for it.
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>>52066950
Yeah. Shit was the bomb. Don't know how it is outside of bongland but that kit is pretty much impossible to find unless you go directly to WW or an event, these days. I bought mine from 3rd party sellers for even more profit, but nobody stocks it anymore, any anyone mad enough to put it on Ebay or the like would surely split it up and sell its constituent parts separately.
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>>52067024
The best part was the blood on the visor that would get scanned off.
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>>52067047

You may be a name fag, but you are officially my nigga.
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>>52067047
*filters u*
heh.. too easy...
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>>52067024
Scions seem to rock a sort of giant Fairbairn-Sykes dagger, which is pretty badass too.

I'd love to have a more cover-based game though, since Scions don't have shields. You're facing off against all the horrors of the galaxy and warp but still just a puny human so hiding behind stuff is essential. Shit like Chaos marines should be mini-bosses.
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>>52067030
Such deals were had by all. That's how you end up with a family photo looking like this.
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>>52066983
Facebook...
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>>52067075
>Banshee charging a mauler
can she even hurt him?
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>>52067090
which groups?
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>>52067075
So basically Space Marine on hard difficulty?
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>>52067075

Yeah, but honestly you can't get to realistic. Health or shields that let you take some hits are a big part of those kind of games. They'd probably go with armor integrity or somesting. Hits weaken your carapace, and when it breaks next hit kills you or something. Find new carapace or repair kits every now and again. Of course don't let you bull moose that shit, but you need to be able to take a few shots.
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>>52067075
>>power armor and no invuln as a mini boss against your glorious hot shot lasgun.
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>>52067079
>mfw I was supposed to split this deal with my friend
>He never got back to me about it
>He bought one on release day anyway. One his admech army and the other for his Blood Angels
>Box has only been opened once
>Both knights are still sitting there waiting to be built
>mfw I'll probably have to pay regular price to get my knight...

It's name was to be "Righteous Indignation".
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>>52067121
>wounding on 5s
>6s if Nurgle
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How the fuck do I stop spending money on shit that I'm not even building? I'm having a mini panic attack because I keep buying shit.
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>>52067126
>friend wanted to pick up death watch
>I wanted harlequins
>hesitated when the box came out
>no longer available
>neither of us got what we wanted
Regret.
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>>52067126
What scum. My friend there bought two boxes and we split the second. Make sure you paint up the indignation anyways and litter his board in treacherous fools.
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>>52067143
Start putting it together and paint it then realize you don't want to get more shit to have to put together and paint
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>>52067141
>15-30% of hits will damage the mini-boss
>only need 2-3 to kill him
That's honestly not that bad.
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>>52067169
Sad. You should try some minor stores in your area, i know there's one near me that still has a box.
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>>52067056
I love you too, random citizen!

>>52067057
Good for you! :)

>>52067075
I think that Chaos Space marines would be similar to the super battle droid things.

>>52067143
Force yourself to not buy anything until your current set is complete.
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>>52067143
Stop being such an impulsive shitter, have some fucking self control.

You are the problem and you need to think about your behaviour.
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>>52065951
Literally just Cypher and "Fallen", they're easy to ally with because of the fluff so don't expect too much
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>>52067196
Is the death watch box good or something? My local GW still has one but I'm trying to decide between trying DW and GK.
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>>52067176
I fucking will. I'm planning on painting it up in Inquisition colors since it'll be allied to my GK, so it'll be mostly black with gold trim, and the shoulders will be red and white.

He originally planned to buy 3 boxes so that he could actually use them as a pure Knight army.

>>52067169
Are you my friends? They were going to do the same thing and no one communicated. I swear communication is the fucking BANE of my group. Nothing ever gets past the "Let's do it" stage.
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>>52067181
This. Painting things first, especially in sub assemblies, requires you to finish the model before playing with it. It's good motivation and keeps your purchases grounded
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>>52067126
>>52067176
I bought my friend a pack of dark elf cold ones for the exodite conversion he kept talking about, he hasn't even opened them, he talks about life getting in the way but he doesn't even try to make time for it!
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>>52067196
Sold out everywhere nearby.

Pick up the models on EBay but not the special rules for the unique units.
Ironically the reason I hesitated is because I didn't want Eldrad and didn't want to deal with putting him up on Ebay.
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>>52067211
Its a good discount on the models, two pretty decently balanced forces and unique character rules only in that box.

Foe DW, I think they have rules for a dreadnought HQ in there, a unique character.
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>>52066354
Was there ever really a doubt?
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>>52066387
>RAW
What's this stand for?
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>>52067326
Rules As Written
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>>52067248
Oh my god, the dude who was going to split Renegade does that "I'm just so fucking busy" thing all the time. Meanwhile when he's not at work (4PM-1AM), he's sitting in Discord with the rest of us playing League of Legends. I'll sit in Discord and paint most of the time if I'm not taking a break. When he does "paint" he does like...1 color and calls it quits. "Man! I got so much painting done! I got a coat of red on the Kastellans." And I'm just thinking "Nigga, shut the fuck up. You didn't do shit, boy. I got my Haemonculus from plastic to painted in 2 days (15 or so hours of work split between the 2.)" at the same time I'm giving him an un-enthusiastic "Niiiiice."

The best part is that he used to be the best painter in the group and at the time his brother was the #2, and I was #3. (Because no one else fucking bothered to paint, I managed to get the nids guy to start, though). Now his brother and a bunch of people in our friend group call me the best painter of us 3. Feels good, man.
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>>52067181
>>52067198

I don't even know where to find the motivation anymore. I want to put them together and paint them. Hell, I enjoy painting, but it is so time consuming and often it feels like work. I don't mean work as in effort, that's fine. I mean work like I feel like I'm at my job or something, and i keep putting it off, especially because the only time I can put any work into anything.
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>>52067289
>Foe DW, I think they have rules for a dreadnought HQ in there
They don't.

Here are the rules.
>Artemis has babby's first vortex grenade, and a combi-flamer that's Poisoned (2+0. Technically can be argued it has infinite shots but this was erratad out. Oh he also has FNP (6+)
>Kill Team has set gear, sarge gets Hatred
>VVs get set gear, sarge gets Prcision Strikes
>The named Dread is an Elites choice and has set gear, gets a 6++ increasing to 5++ against Witchfires
Also a formation. Harlequins get more of the same shit but I assume you don't care about them.

>tl;dr it's just units with preset wargear and a USR slapped on, only Artemis is really that unique
t. fag who got his booklet out just to post this
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>>52066354
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>>52065951
They have models up on the store, but it looks like they're kind of both. Similar to Inquisition.

>>52067289
Are you talking about the start collecting box? I'm trying to remember what box they have but can't. It wasn't the start collecting, battleforce, or overkill.
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>>52067359

I had trouble working up motication myself. Getting involved in a community helps. There are some events at my shop that encourage me to paint. Having people to talk to about it and brag to makes me a lot more likely to do it.
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>>52067367
Bones for the bone throne
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>>52067289
Nihilus is a cool guy who reks eldrad and didn't afraid of anything

>>52067251
Yeah I've avoided learning to sell on ebay for a long time. Would like to sell cawl.
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>>52067324
I'm doubting. He looks like old Steven Tyler. Like, face-looks-like-a-handbag Steven Tyler.
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>>52067349
>tfw you become your group's best painter because everyone else gives up
I can relate to this. What a waste of talent my group is.
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>>52067427
>tfw am group's best painter
because have no group
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>>52067427
Like, I don't let it get to my head. I know it's not the best painting in the world and their are PLENTY of people that can blow me out of the water, but I definitely consider it above average. But in reality, I am the group's best painter. I consider the Knight guy's brother #2 because his stuff is really nice. Sure, it may not be extremely detailed, but it is clean and solid painting.

Pic related is the haemonculus in from the example.

If it looks familiar, it's because I post my painting here all the fucking time.
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>>52066291
Check it out, the answer may be a hint at 8th ed
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>>52066496
I love scions/stormtroopers as a concept, but I hate their current fluff. Just the idea that they have all individuality and initiative whipped out of them to become order-following robots. It's pretty much the opposite of what really works. Not to mention it clashes with all the cool movie depictions of spec ops type guys.

That said fortunately there is some room for leeway to just kind of say "well these are just the military of x planet, it's very wealthy and has an exceptional training program"
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>>52067444
Honestly, some days it feels like it'd be better that way. I mean, the guys all love the game, and a couple have been collecting nearly as long as me, but throwing down the minis I worked is hard on to fight against a sea of gray and black is so fucking boring. Worst part is, our games are usually hosted by one of the disillusioned painters, so all the terrain that's less than a decade old is all the same color of drab gray.

I didn't realize how bad it was until I went to a store for a pickup game when I was on vacation. I had legitimately forgotten how cool it was to play with fully painted and based armies on a lovingly crafted board.

>>52067480
O-oh shit it's you! Wassup my man?
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>>52067481
>get politely asked to stop doing that
>thrown out of the store for continuing
How about you cut the cryptic bullshit and tell us what you know straight up? Assuming you actually know anything.
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>>52066354
Sting.
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>>52067505
Small world, eh? I'm trying to motivate myself to finish off these damn Grotesques already.

How's the AdMech coming along?
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>>52067483
>Just the idea that they have all individuality and initiative whipped out of them to become order-following robots.

Yeah, I head-canon that out. I can understand insane discipline and a willingness to follow suicidal orders, but turning them into beep-boops who just wait to be told what to do would make shit special forces.
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>>52067383

Painting isn't really an issue for me beyond time because I have trouble not finishing when I start. The last model I painted took me about 7 hours, and it was just kind of spontaneous. I wanted to just put some base colors down before bed, and next thing I knew the sun was up.

Building, however, kills me. If I were just assembling shit, that would be better. However, I need to clear mold and sprue lines, which is such a fucking pain in the ass. Sometimes it takes me over an hour to build one fucking model, and now I need to piece mail them to make better progress and the finished paint job better.

The more I think about it, the more I want to just crawl into a corner and hide.
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>>52067342
Wouldn't you only fire one weapon if you're outside Plas range?
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>>52067564

Stay strong man, just imagine all the games you could play when they are finished.
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>>52067483
I liked their depiction in books. The storm trooper squads I mean. A small cadre of tight knit spec ops guys loyal to eachother, outside the command structure, avoided by soldiers in regiments they're attached to. I liked the fluff that some platoons are disbanded after too many casualties because the remainder will be broken from losing too many friends and won't play well with others.
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>>52067596

>having a group

Why must you wound me?

That being said, I recently found some people an hour or so away.
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>>52067668
>tfw closest GW is 4-6 hours away
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>>52067682

Mine was 2 hours away before it closed down like 10 years ago
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>>52067682
>>52067702
Ahh shit I just moved house and you faglords reminded me that my new local GW is staffed by an uppity bitch who won't let people use FW models or even use non citadel brushes.
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>>52067505
Rough. I couldn't get anyone to paint until a combination of glorious duncan tutorials and a few of us pooled together and built a nice table with a mat and bought some real terrain.

Its been real nice seeing some of my friends who swore they could never paint excel in the last year. Nid guy is back to work, renegade guy has a fully painted knight army and works on deathwatch with me, chaos guy has almost finished his mono tzeentch and half his new thousand sons. Tau player here did his whole army and his orks and death guards in one year.
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I guess there isn't really much else I can do with this? Chaos Warband doesn't really allow for much customization and Plague Colony isn't competitive
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>>52067734
>not use FW models
But by proxy, those are GW models since they own the company.
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>>52067734
Complain to corporate and get them fired.
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>>52064653
Is there a limit on the number of relics an army can take? I know it's one per model, but say I want to give my Daemon Prince the Berserker Glaive, a Lord the Talisman of Burning Blood, and another Lord Gorefather could I?
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>>52067734
FW is completely fine by corporate, so they are breaking company policy.

Complain, Anon.
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>>52067668

I'm sorry to wound you. That bring said we have a couple that drives 50 minutes to come to our store.

Ho hum what to do...well If there is no group make a group. Infect your friends.
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>>52067774
That's fine. So long as it's 1 per model and only one of each relic per army then it's good.
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>>52067788
Excellent. Thanks!
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>>52067682
>tfw no GW or LGS in your whole fucking country that sell warhammer shit.
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>>52067427
>best painter who cares a ton about detail and has the most fun painting in my small group
>encourage them to try their best and do well all the time, giving tips and such
>because they lack detail brushes I let them borrow mine, but they always end up being a little too rough with the poor things
I like seeing them improve and start caring more, but it hurts too much to see these brushes go.
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>>52067801
>>someone gets paint up in the heel of your favorite small brush
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>>52067554
Losing the will to live with this Sydonian. So all in all, pretty good.

>>52067737
I'm envious. One day I'll probably just say fuck it and bash a board together myself, but right now I just don't have the space. Is that a painted Tau army I see?
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>>52067801
> Get my girlfriend into painting 40k
> She's genuinely really good at painting
> No respect for brushes
> Tfw I see her forcibly jam my favourite detail brush straight into a model after I repeatedly tell her not to.
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>>52067888
Hit her.
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>>52067536
If you flip over space marines, guard, wolves, blood angels, dark angels, mechanicus they say imperial. Eldar necrons, tyranids tau say xenos. Chaos marines and daemons say chaos.
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>>52067787

I've tried, man. I've been working with two different LGS owners to try and get shit started, and after 7 months, I'm just burned out. If it's not printed on a $70 piece of card stock with "Magic the Gathering" printed on the back, people don't care around here. I used to be at one shop or the other all weekend, and I think I've been to either a combined 4 times this year.

It looks like the hour+ drive is my best bet, but that's a long way to go for maybe.
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>>52067934
Can confirm, I saw this recently and the shop guys had no clue why they're like that
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>>52067905

With your dick.
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>>52067882
It sure is. Owned by an excellent bro.
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>>52067940
Give it a shot, that or get a battlemap and play via Web cam/skype
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>>52067882
Those look like a nightmare to paint. I'm kinda glad my friend and I switched at the last second. I was supposed to have AdMech and he was supposed to split DE with his brother.
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>>52067940

Sorry to hear about your difficulties. Steady on mate, keep a stiff upper lip. Try the hour away store at least once. If you don't you'll never know. If you can't get the denizens of the game shop interested look to your circle of friends and associates outside the game shops.
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can you help me find motivation to paint, I've already ruined a set of necron warriors with crappy priming and I'm scared of ruining more modles
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>>52067827
>>52067888
>they rough-house it, especially when trying to clean the brush
>see the tip nearly at the point of splitting
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>>52067427

>become good painter at some point
>friend is starting out and shows me his paint jobs
>its honestly a mess
>be awkward about it

I'm too much of a pushover to give proper criticism when I'm not anonymous.
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Can you summon daemons and then give them duplicate artifacts with their 30 pt limit?

Does anyone know where the FAQ is that says you can only have one artifact per army? I have a friend who really likes summoning heralds with the necronomicon or whatever that book is that boosts invulns and he's adamant its legal because summoned stuff can have dups of artifacts he says but I know that's bull right?
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>>52067997

>friends
The game shop IS my circle of friends. I live a fairly lonely life.
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>>52067934
Holy shit are you... are you saying they're condensing the factions down into some sort of mega factions?

Wow! I had absolutely no idea! Thanks for illuminating me you fucking retard. Here's a little tip if you look just slightly above those little cards on the shelves you will see books, and some of these books will have names like "Fall of Cadia" or "Fracture of Biel-Tan" and if you open these books and take a look you will find that this shit is already painfully obvious!
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>>52068025

Your friend is fucking illiterate.

If a conjuration power creates a unit from Codex: Chaos Daemons and that unit’s Army List Entry includes the option to take an Icon of Chaos, an Instrument of Chaos and/or the option to upgrade one model to a character, you may take any of these options for free provided you have the appropriate model available. Unless stated otherwise, the unit cannot take any further upgrades or options.

Quoted from the rulebook.
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>>52068025
Summoned units can take upgrades that the unit can buy as long as you have the model for it, like the musician, banner, and unit leader. You cant summon up more relics or duplicates of a relic.
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Are grey knights or deathwatch better off right now?
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>>52068003
Get an airbrush.

Necron warriors come in box of 12, you can't fucked up all 12 of them right? Try one at a time. Otherwise, Strip the paint (google).

If you don't enjoy painting, then don't paint, no point wasting time doing thing you don't like.
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>>52068082
Deathwatch could probably handle Daemons better than GK can right now. Not to mention, with Frag Cannons, AV13+ isn't as big of a "fuck me..."
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>>52068080
Not him, but how about you read the whole book next time before talking shit? Sacrifice clearly states the conjured Herald gets 30 points of options.
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>>52068080
Ah I read that but I didnt realize it meant no artifacts

I swear I read his codex more than he does, he's played since like 3.5 and he always says everything so confidently but I've learned he's just full of shit and hopes you won't fact check him

Every time we play together he "learns something new" that happens to keep him from doing some broken exploit
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>>52068107
This would mostly be against Ravenwing.
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>>52068062

Invention is said to be the child of necessity. I'm not a really social person myself, painful so, but Ive forced myself to branch out and in the end I think I'm better for it. Just try anon. I believe in you.
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>>52068112

Dumb shit it says in the rules 'unless otherwise' specified which sacrifice does. I literally quoted the rule which includes the exception.
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>>52068025

You can give a herald 30 points of equipment if summoned via sacrafice but even then you cannot duplicate artifacts. The rules are not unclear

"Only one of each of following artifacts may be chosen per army"

You are still choosing an option.
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>>52064653

>>52068215
>>52068215
>>52068215
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>>52068091
I do enjoy it I just have no talent
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>>52066924
I guess I just got really lucky today. Very surprising to be honest. It doesn't hurt to keep looking through. I am finishing up whats on my plate so I can prime tomorrow morning.
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>>52066756
It's because nothing new is happening.
Everyone is just waiting for the new content, and so it's bait, bullshit, building lists and WIP until then.
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>>52068082
Neither are in a good position. Literally any other flavor of space marines will be better.
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>>52067934
The GW stores near me already have shelf labels like that.
As in, where each army lives there's a banner running along all the stripping.
SM and IG isn't outright Imperium, but a lot of other stuff is.
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>>52068082
>Love Grey Knights
>Really like painting and collecting
>Friend A is the same but with Deathwatch
>Friend B has Nids, deldar & bangles. Often complains about how underpowered they are.
>We both get our shit pushed in every time.
>I recently learned that I misread the Grey Knight detachment. I thought it let me charge from deep strike. That mistake was really my only boon.
Man, how do you win objective games without gorillions of bodies on the ground?
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