/WFG/ Warhammer Fantasy General

>>52057763

Yes to 'hit' and to 'wound' are separate things, so you can cause no 'wounds' and still count it as a 'hit'.

>>52059942
It was Tethlis that after over thousand years after the war of the beards installed the militia. Probably not 100% of their population is a trained soldier, though don't know which exceptions they would make.

>>52054179
Use some of Dark Heresys tweaks to combat, like initative.


Don't be afraid to get npcs running away if combats are drawing on or they are losing. No fighting to the death every time

Don't over test things and encourage players to be descriptive in combat

5th for 6th edition is best edition

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>>52061675

That was 4th, this is 5th.

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>mfw there are ~200 lore pages to collect with the new patch of vermintide

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>>52061749

MFW I have none.

On a related note, has the patch fucked anyone else's connection? I seem to keep timing out when someone else joins.

>>52061675
6th edition is peak Warhammer.

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What is the wind of magic and why is it Chamon

>>52062184
You mean Ghyran

Do you guys consider the battle standard to be an auto include in your armies?

Interesting plot hooks for wfrp2 that are not heroics and are more delving into horror esque?

>>52062711
The Dying of the Light?

>>52061350
I remember the return of the lichemeister scenario from WD. Wood elves and a knight errant kicking undead ass.
Shit was so cash.

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FemOrc.

>>52062250
Yes.

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>>52063658
Fem Half-Orc, surely.

>>52062711
My current campaign started with the players accidentally smuggling 'Dark Wine' a la The Wine of Dreams and tasting some of it without knowing what it was.
Long story short, it's created in a special place by Slaaneshi cultists. The PCs were plagued by daemonic dreams and had to track the wine back to its source to find a cure. This involved a lot of conspiracy and dealing with smugglers, infiltrating a slaaneshi masquerade that went all Eyes Wide Shut and dealing with some disturbing peasants who had a Crastor's Keep-style relationship with beastmen.

Something I might do at some point is adapt a short story from Night's Dark Masters where the PCs are caught in a plague quarantine and have to solve a mystery while they're confined, potentially searching for the source of the plague. Lots of horror potential there.

i've decided to run restless dead (1e) for my group, i ran oldenhaller contract cos our regular gm for d&d was sick and i figured it was a quick way to still do something and get a grasp of the system. i'm gonna shift eureka to be the first installment cos they're still in nuln and that will get them out of it for the rest of the campaign. i know these guys aren't up to the enemy within and i've never gm'd before, any advice?

Do we know anything about Karl Franz beyond war and politics? What's his personality? Does he have a family? How exactly did he rise to power?

>>52063884
He has a son he loves dearly, and his nephew is a Chaos Mutant they keep locked in a tower for his own safety.

>>52064013
For real? That's interesting. Source?

>>52063388
Explain

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>>52064504
It's a WFRP campaign.

>>52064656
Got .pdf?

>>52062250

For most armies yes, some don't need them but they are few and far between. Undead for example.

Did someone convert the crit charts from 1e to 2e? Hoping for extended ones aswell.

>>52063744
What type of dreams, though?

>>52063559

Sounds cool, I don't suppose you can remember which issue?

I've been rereading all the old 2nd edition scenario books, I'm thinking of converting them to Dragon Rampant or maybe Regiments of Renown.

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>>52063884
There is new novella The Prince of Altdorf by Creative Assembly writer Andy Hall about how Karl became emperor, it only comes with physical copy of game.

>tfw since GW trashed the setting you can go wild with headcanon and make up all kinds of backgrounds that were never developed

I've been working on some stuff for Caledor recently, about the time before it was called Caledor, at the time it would have been just named "Land of Dragons" or "Land of Fire" and be divided into multiple petty kingdoms, whose kings would often go to war with each other and the lands outside caledor with armies of dragonborne warriors. The land was eventually divided up into 16 larger kingdoms, and the great rulers were known as the 16 Dragons, altough the greatest among them would be Caledor, who was not only a Dragon Rider but also a Wizard without equals, and so it came about that one after another the 15 other rulers were either defeated in battle, or swore servitude to Caledor peacefully. The last petty King to fall was the old and wise King Daugandrir, known as the Green Dragon, who held his petty Kingdom surrounded on three sides by the Annuulii mountains, impassable even on Dragonback, in his Kingdom lived the Green Fire Dragons of legend, with less than 100 of them his warriors repelled more than 600 of Caledors Dragon riders, but took horrible losses doing so. With less than 30 able to fight, the old King decided to surrender, his second son, Prince Dendrion was furious at this decision and took all remaining Dragon Riders as well as any green Dragons fit for flight, and led them in a great exodus to the east beyond the great Sea. It is said he proclaimed that "the Green Dragon will never be Servant to Another." The only Green Fire Dragons that remained in his Fathers Kingdom were the ones either too young or too old to leave, and the badly wounded of the previous battles. Those too eventually faded into obscurity and have long since either died in battle or retreated into the deep caves of the Annuulii mountains. The old King Daugandrir accepted subjugation and Caledor would forever after be known as the Dragontamer.

>>52065284

Wasn't Andy Hall the editor of White Dwarf once over? That must have been a blast from the past.

>>52065301
after his surrender the old King Daugandrir would be demoted to Lord due to the small size of his Kingdom. He would not live to see the coming of Chaos to the World and with his death the era of the green fire dragons had also ended in Ulthuan.

Of what happened to Prince Dendrion little is known, tales say he led his host of Dragons east in search for a new homeland, though where is not clear. Some say he took them south at the World Edge Mountains and settled in the Southlands, others claim he went further east beyond the Dark Lands, and some even say he went as far as Cathay and beyond. It can be expected that his journey was not successful, though, as none of the green fire dragons have been sighted in ages, and the only mentions of them are of dubious sailor reports and fantastic tales.

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>>52065006
They dreamt of bacchanals under the light of morrslieb involving beastmen and witches and two-headed dwarves and presided over by an opium-smoking, wine-drinking satyr sitting in a tree-throne.

The satyr was a representation of Slaanesh, but I didn't make that explicit. The PCs just kept finding carvings they assumed depicted Taal, except they had goat horns instead of antlers.

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>>52064023
His son was in Genevieve.
His nephew was a random rumor in WFRP.
His nephew and son have the same name due to author mistakes.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Holswig-Abenauer

Franz's father was the preceding Emperor, he took the throne young as heir.

I don't think his wife or other children have ever been mentioned.

>>52065695
His son was called Luitpold in Beasts in Velvet at least. After his grandfather.

>>52065695

Who the fuck gets the job of dressing that every morning? Is this why Todbringer hates him, he's been doing it for the past 5 years.

>>52065850
he only gets like that when his mom forgets to make tendies for dinner.

>>52061350
Say, does anyone have information about houserules for WHFRP? I've been looking at the weapons and have noticed how underwhelming a lot of them seem to be. Would it be a good idea to replace the Impact quality of Great Weapons with simply making its damage SB+2, making Demilances SB+1 and Lances SB+2 with Tiring causing those to become SB? What about adjusting the Damage of various ranged weapons so that they match the tabletop (Javelins become SB with 24 max, 12 short etc.).

Horse, Pegasus, or Hippogryph/Griffon?

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>>52066024
Here are the stats I use for my campaign.
I put some effort into making all the melee weapons useable with some different strengths and weaknesses.
The armour table is designed to emulate the piecemeal armour in a lot of the Empire art.

>>52066117
Roc chariot or Sphinx.

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Do beastmen have any use for warpstone?

>>52066739
Magic, intentional mutation.

Vibrators.

>>52066117

I'll take it you're a lake nigger since you asked about Hippogryphs.

Horse and in a land formation unit. Peg's work okay as well but it takes more effort.

>>52068011

lance formation*

>>52066335
This is quite good. Thanks.

>>52061350
Noob that had only really played the Total War game here with a question that I'm sure has more to do with balance and race specialization, but it's there a fluff reason behind why Brettonia gets proper gryphons for their knights and the Empire does not?

>>52069932
It's probably just balance and giving Bretonnia a new toy. Large groups of hippogryph knights did not exist for Bretonnia before Total War; before that they were an occasional mount choice for Lords and for Leoun.

If you're asking about why Bretonnians get Hippogryphs and the Empire gets Griffons, I'm not really sure. Hippogryphs are more common in the Grey Mountains, so Bretonnia has easier access to them, but they're also absurdly difficult to train - a knight that wants one literally cannot let anyone else handle the hippogryph in his stead. Griffons might be a bit easier to care for, or more common outside the Grey Mountains - the Empire isn't as limited as to where they could get them.

>>52066335
It's good, but I'll probably try to edit it further. Historically, mail was used in combination with plate (though it eventually got phased out).

*pulls out Teclis*

what are some lesser known WFRP adventures?

>>52069932
Marketing


That's it, they wanted to give empire monstrous cavalry so made up Demi-griffons. Several years after total war wanted to give bretonia more troop choices so gave them better griffons.


Trying to justify it by fluff is enabling the bastards

>play 8th edition
>get fucked over by Elves and Tzeentch and their bullshit magic

I am glad GW fucking nuked this game.

>>52064881
http://www.mediafire.com/file/0ipusb4b9gqlwjp/Warhammer_FRPG_1st_Ed_-_Dying_of_the_Light.pdf

>>52071112
Solution: don't play 8th edition
3rd & 6th edition are popular alternatives

Would you say that a unit of 25 slayers with full command is viable in a 2000pts game? In 6th 7th 8th editions?

So with Lorebook having dropped, we now know why Clan Fester is working with Rasknitt. They have a disease called the brood plague, which apparently renders brood mothers sterile and is at least somewhat contagious. Not even the plaguemongers of Pestilens could cure it.

Now there's a weapon against skavenkind.

>>52069932
first they are hippogryphs, not griphons, and second bretonnia only has them so they get a hard hitting monstrous unit.

>>52061713
I always preferred 3rd Edition.

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hey fellas, so happy to report that man'owar corsair, aka assasins creed black warhammer has released a new beta patch which adds custom battles and all that that entails into the game.

Pic related is some high tech dwarf shenanigans

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>>52072913
got to do what I wanted for quite some time. spookship/

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>>52072913
>submersible Thunderbarges

>>52072913
is the game worth buying yet?

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>>52073032
>>52073047

here is the real submersible, haven't figured out how to submerge just yet.


as to if it's worth buying I have to note this is the beta patch. campaign still has human and khorne only atm. and the chaos campaign is more limited.


do you like warhammer flavoured boats anon?, I guess it's worth it then.

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>recruit 500 Grail Knights as retinue
>never worry about peasant uprisings ever again

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>>52073118
it can submerge, shoots dwarven torpedos!

this is the dwarf big boy, a destoyer blowing up galleons is ... oddly therapeutic. and with this I'll stop for now

>>52065030
WD (UK) 310 to 312
Here's a Lichemeister pdf, in french
http://verrahrubicon.free.fr/documents/scenar_mefaits_du_lichemeister.pdf

>>52071739
Not in comp. Otherwise, yes.

Okay in 6e and 8e. Abysmal in 7e.

>>52072913
I'll have to reinstall and play this weekend.

>>52071112
>>52071641
I've heard that Tzeentch sorcery is crap in 8th. Isn't that the case?

t. ignorant newcomer

>>52074741
Tzeentch everything other than Lords of Change and Warriors magic is crap.

His lore is the worst ones, LoCs are better off taking core lores.

That being said, as far as wizards go LoC are high tier.

>>52074768
So basically if I ever go Tzeentch sorcerer I should pick the lore of Metal?

>>52074827
For Warriors? I think their Tzeentch is okay. Just not for Daemons.

I only have experience with Daemons so I can't speak definitively. Check the 1d4 tactics.

>>52074886
That's where I got the >Tzeentch lore is shit from.

How do I into airbrushing?

Anyone got a good guide?

>>52074635
And taking with them a slayer hero would be a good idea? Or just leave them as they are?

Interesting adversaries against dorfs in wfrp?

>>52075619
Other dwarfs.

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>>52075570
Pic. Generally the best tutorial is experience though, after you master dagger strokes. Also youtubing effects, like cobwebbing.
>>52075596
The heroes have always been shit outside 8e and the special 6e Slayer army. But Slayers have one good use, if you netlist cannons like an asshole you can be fair by adding more Slayers.

>>52075707
I miss being able to use my goblinhewer.


Also ty for the guides.

>>52075619
Use Fimir and Norse Dwarfs.

Make the Dwarfs decide if they can tolerate their kin who tolerates half-Daemons that rape and sacrificeEmpire villages.

>>52075672
So helpful..
>>52075741
Fimir?

>>52075730
Oh man, if GW does a Made To Order on the 'hewer I'm just throwing my wallet at it.

Or a Gob Lobber. I'd get that over a Hewer.

>>52075751
I made a storm of chaos dorf slayer army.

It was hilarious when I fought shit like ogres and black orcs.

>>52075749
He has a point. Dwarfs fighting Dwarfs is pretty interesting since it becomes a very complex affair.

Here's Fimir. https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Fimir

Here's inspiration for Dwarf on Dwarf. https://1d4chan.org/wiki/The_Grudge_Of_Drong

>>52075776
Thanks!

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>>52075776
Dwarfs vs Dwarfs is fun because you get into the whole honour/shame culture thing and everything turns into a Shakespearean tragedy.
In fact, just rip off King Lear or Hamlet or something.

Vengeful ghosts are a great plot hook.

>>52075776
>Helgar, watching the battle, chose this moment to wade into the fight. Against the Elves.
>That's right, she sided with the guy who had been a thorn in her side and those of her kinsmen for the history of her kingdom against her constant allies, whom she'd actually called to the battle.
Who writes this crap?

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>>52076148
D A W I
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>>52061350
So, Vampire coast/Undead Lustrian army anon here, I have a few more ideas on how im gonna convert along with some ideas for fluff:
>Partially restoring a destroyed Lizardman Spawning pool, leading to the creation of Albino Skinks, mindless creatures comparable to Ghouls.
>Giving my Skeletons Skink Shields, and Marauder weapons, to show how they have been equipped with what ever is available.
>Black Knights riding undead Cold-Ones.
>Undead Ripperdactyls as Giant Bats, resurrected by magic.
>A new Model for my Necromancer, looking for more of a mix of Shamanistic and Archeology professor look, as she adds some of the Charms to her enterouge.
>a Conquestidor turned Vampire, courtesy of Luthor Harkon, entrusted to keep watch on and aid the Necromancer in her research.

Any body have some ideas? Lore wise, im trying to figure out a way to fit her in the Vampire coast, studying the ruins of one of the ruined Temple cities.

>>52076235
The 1d4 article or the original story?

Side note, great Dwarf Mickstarter. Sharing.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1636851747/atlantis-miniatures-28mm-dwarf-miniatures

>>52076506
Skinks should have glaucomas.

>>52076235
Unlike Storm of Chaos, old GW knew to set events in the past so it didn't matter the outcome or like Albion/Lustrian in some far off place.

The campaign boxes are written to play first and foremost. After writing the rules, they held an actual game between the devs to decide the canon version.

Helgar sides with whoever wins more of the preceding skirmishes in the actual playing of it. Since the Elf dev lost 2/3, she canon sides against him.

>>52076771
But why?

>>52069932
I wonder why Bretonnia didn't just get Demigryphs too.

>>52076793
Demigryphs are half lion half bird, Hippogryphs and Pegasi are half horse half bird.

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>>52076829
I know they have a horse boner, but I don't see why some knights wouldn't want to ride a Demigryph, or why they wouldn't exist in Bretonnia.

Peagsi at least fluffwise make sense in squad-level numbers - they're hard to raise, since you have to actually raise them in scenarios where they're forced to fly, otherwise their wings atrophy - but you can let peasants do half the work, and you can actually buy young foals if you can afford to not send someone into the mountains.

Hippogryphs are pretty violent, and especially challenging is that you can never let anyone aside from the rider care for him, otherwise they just won't respect him. The rider has to make a commitment to having that animal and can't just pick him from a stable of other hippogryphs like he might a horse or pegasus. And getting a hippogryph chick sucks, since a peasant has to climb up into the mountains and get an egg, probably while risking getting attacked by angry hippogryph parents. It'd be hard to get enough of them for a squad.

>>52076788
Why did she side in-universe?

She felt massive shame seeing Elves easily slaughter Dwarfs. She lead non-Dwarfs to kill her kin, men who had fought for her until they abandoned her over the course of a few months. She knew they'd all lose anyway, but figured that at least trying to help would absolve her of guilt (or blame).

Picture a civil war that has only gone on for a few weeks (Dwarf reckoning of time, remember). Your countrymen, enemy as they are, being brutally wiped out by a third party that you got into the war would still hurt you deep down. Her acting on that feeling is retarded, but its easy to see why she wanted to in the first place.

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>>52076928
the "Hippogryph" squad we see in TWWH is basically all the Kingdoms Hippogryph riders teamed up in one unit. They are not some knights but Counts, Dukes or at least Barons, same with the Royal Pegasus riders, they are at the very least Grail Knights.

And Hippogryphs are extremely proud and violent, but also extremely intelligent.

>>52077041
What I've read says they only really have animal cunning and are actually especially bloodthirsty - they'll kill just for the sake of killing - but I'll concede on your other points.

>>52068011
>lake nigger
t. gunpowder cuck

>>52077717
t. Umgi beardling

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>>52077477
I like to think that griffons and hippogryphs are thick as shit but that people imagine them as noble and intelligent for nationalistic reasons (especially griffons, being the heraldry of the Empire). Like lions and bald eagles.

So if you ask a sigmarite priest they will extol the virtues of the mighty Imperial Griffon, while if you ask the Baron's hook-handed stablemaster, he's like Hodgesaargh from Discworld and will give you the whole 'let me tell you about griffons' spiel.

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>>52075707
Thanks again for the info dude. Heres some WiP

Took me a while to get the consistency right on the metallic paint.

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Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide

(six)HRBX-TDTB-AZZD(six)

Enjoy fagets.

>>52078008
>M3

>>52078077
Nice, but get yourself some nitrile gloves or mount things to a stick.

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>>52078242
IN!
THE!
BOOK!

>>52078403
Yeah i saw in all the tutorials. Luckily my parents love wine so ill pick some corks up from them.

>>52071112

You've never even played 8th edition have you?

>>52071739

Never really saw many Slayers in 8th. Maybe it was because the models were horrible. Can't comment on the unit but for God's sake buy the Avatars of War models. The old metal ones are for collectors only.

>>52079046
Models were great. Part of the long-suffering of Dwarf players is one of the most interesting parts of fluff and better models were so shit.

What are the 2 best lore of magic for the Empire?

>>52079046
I have 80 of the old metal ones.

I like them.

Also I would run a unit of slayers because it was turning into monster hammer and they were a good fire magnet.

My war machines and thunderers are fragile.

>>52076506

For you're Conquistador Vampire, I would check out Avatars of War Empire range. They are more based on Spain than the GW's Landsknecht design.

As for the Necromancer. Somebody a few threads ago pointed out Freebooter's miniatures range of Amazons. Some of them look quite sinister, I would definitely check them out. One is covered in a giant spider and another has a crocodile head on.

Look forward to seeing more of the project.

Should I take 2 units of handgunners or 1 unit of handgunners and 1 unit of crossbowmen?

>>52079046
Models were awesome, much better than Fyresylyrs

>>52076793
M A R K E T I N G
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>>52079418
Right?

All my friends love the fireslayers.

I think they are over designed shit with awful poses.

>>52079613
Its the same with all the newer models, I can't stand them. Over developed and over exaggerated.


The centrepiece models especially just make me think "how the fuck are even meant to transport that?" there are impressive bits in them but its all just lost in the noise of stuff going on on the model.

>>52079664
Yeah.

Giving slayers a giant monster was the biggest oxymoron ever.

The only new centerpiece that is one of the best models I have ever seen is Nagash.

Hell I want him just so I can have a D&D archlich model.

>>52079773
Neferata and Arkhan were good, even if their monster is a wingless bat full of skull bubbles.

>>52078103
That is not a valid key, as it doesn't follow the 5-5-5 code, if you want to gift it, that is

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>>52079773
meh, all of the new Undead/Nagash models look like they fell straight out of Blizzards Scourge Artbook.

The Vampire Counts and Tomb Kings haf their unique designs and were thematically sound, but GW went and fucked it all up with their uninspired Warcarft esque bullshittery

>>52080228
I have always loved KTs design but I agree it is unoriginal.

>>52079136

>dwarf players
>suffering

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>>52080564
*Dwarf gunline in the distance*

Why did 40k turn out so batshit insane compared to Fantasy?

>>52080228
Nagash is fine without the stupid hat.

>>52080564
You think we WANTED to go full fucking cannon and gunlines?

Dwarfs had the same netlisting problem as TK, just not as bad.

>>52080833
I love doing gunline.

It is hilarious watching melee centered armies finally getting to me and looking like swiss cheese.

Only to find out that quarrellers with GWs fucking wreck face.

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How can humans survive in Sylvania, if the land is so barren, dark and twisted?

Are they worse off than the peasantry of Bretonnia?

>>52080824
Fantasy was based on D&D mixed with historicals, Glorantha, and Moorcock.

40k was based on Judge Dredd, Paradise Lost, Warhammer Fantasy, and Starship Troopers.

When you base a parody on an over the top joke, biblical fiction, an already extreme setting, and an exploration of an extreme, you get total fucking insanity.

>>52080824
It's easier to ramp up numbers in SPACE than on a fantasy world that at least tries to be somewhat reasonable.

>>52080858
I like my ranged troops, but I'd prefer to shrug off ranged weapons as I advance to the middle of the field and plant my flag ignoring every single thing in the way.

I can get my shooting with Rangers and Gyros.

>>52080861
Sylvanians are just Brets if there was a middle class and the nobility was insane Vampires.

What are some mods to make TW:W prettier?

>>52080833
I don't mind the hat half as much as his ridiculous midriff and blue jeans

>>52080861
on average life in sylvania is worse than life in bretonnia, beyond the obvious mistreatment and general shitty life, Bretonnia as a land is rather nice. And the peasants are rather well protected overall.

Sylvania has it's ups and downs too, some places are worse than others, but generally it's a dark and brooding country, also very marshy like moussillon. But if you take away the midnight aristocracy, it's not so different from life in Stirland.

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>>52080869
I wanted to run a campaign in the setting because of some artwork I'd seen, but then I read the lore and it's just too nuts to run a WFRP style game in. The common people don't have a prayer. I like the gothic aesthetic and oppressive atmosphere, but not the grimderp insanity.

>>52081128
Rowboat will fix it.

>>52080861
under Vlad, Sylvanians were quite well off

>>52081154
better than under von Drak but that doesn't mean much, sylvania is still a nasty place.

>>52081064
Midriff is odd, but shows he's Nehekharan via mummy stitching.

What jeans?

>>52081128
Check out Necromunda. Its The Warriors sci fi basically.

>>52081198
how does it show anything? he's 50 feet tall, neither his armor nor his body is from the time he was alive.

>>52081180
Vlad's main bag was that his taxes were very low (he had almost no use for anything unskilled laborers would make or grow). Sylvania is a very marginal land: naturally, because of all the moors and the thin soil, but also because it seems to exist in a natural dhar trap and the soil has a high concentration of warpstone.

Without nobles cheese-ratting their harvests away, Sylvanians could eke out a somewhat less marginal existence than ever before, and unlike the nobility, vampires promote: it's rare enough to be rounded down to zero, but it's still not zero.

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>>52081128
Dark Heresy can be run pretty down-to-earth.
Hive cities make a great Noir setting.

Give this a read. It's good shit.

>>52081249
Its supposed to be his body, on godhood.

In theory Sigmar should be the same size.

>>52082096
Supporting that Alarielle is like 35mm in AoS. Smaller than Nagash, but very large compared to the 28mm average human.

>>52082123
I mean 1/35, not 35mm.

>>52073632

Much appreciated. My French isn't what it used to be but I'll have a go.

>>52078077
>>52078092

Looks good. I was so close to getting that classic Lord when he went on last orders but I skipped on it and now I regret that.

>>52079148

Yeah I don't think they were shit per sa but everything else in the Dwarf army was good to awesome and so they had to fight to get into most lists when Special was so crowded with Hammeres, Gyrocopters and the other guys... the ones with the shields who guard the tunnels, probably the best anvil unit in the game.

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>>52079418
They are but that's not saying much. I can understand the nostalgia appeal but from an objective standpoint they weren't the best looking by the last edition. They look like they have pie plates stuck to sticks for axes.

>>52079773
Same problem with Magnus, he should have been much smaller and on a 40mm base. But then GW couldn't charge £70 or whatever he is.

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>>52082764
I remember seeing some stuff similar to what you're looking for - would you like me to try tracking down the site again? I found it confusing to navigate, but it might have what you need.

>>52083020

Yeah cheers or just post a link and I'll have a look through.

>>52065598
Based. Ron Spencer

>>52083020

Also, is that image a WD insert for the original TotL campaign?

>>52065030
http://www.mediafire.com/file/zflg35l9s33fwxh/Warhammer+FRPG+1st+Ed+-+Lichemaster.pdf

>>52065030
there should a mediafire file with each page as a picture

>>52061350
Quick question. In early editions, armor would affect the wearers stats from what I've heard. Could any oldfags explain to me how this worked?

>>52083108
>>52083519
http://www.solegends.com/citcat198603cja/c198603cjp0061-02.htm

I think it might be?

>>52082966
I actually really like those axes.

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>>52083765

Ah it's just from Vengeance of the Bitchmaster. He seems to have an incomplete version of it. There's an English version at OldhammerGenerals BlogSpot if anyone is interested (kept trying too post the HTML but it thought it was spam). I might have to pick a model of Kemmler up after reading these.

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>>52084821
Ah, sorry man. Maybe the actual Return of the Lichemaster is on there somewhere.

I saved it because I was interested in the portrayal of Priests of Taal and La Masiontaal.

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http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Amalric_of_Gaudaron

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Anyone have a larger, perhaps uncropped, pic of this?

Anybody know where I can find a PDF of The Restless Dead?

>>52082922
Ironbreakers.

>>52079046
The thing is I have a unit of mixed slayers from different editions, some from the 6th, some from the Marauder range (4th edition I belive), and I quite like them, even if thet weight a ton

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>>52085150
Here you go.

>>52086319
I really appreciate it. Something about an armed and even lightly armored jester cracks me up.

>>52086364
>Laugh this one off

>>52085977
The Border Town Burning Mordheim suplement warband or did you mean something else?

hey/tg/
ok. 8th edition. playing Empire... how do i deal with Ogres ? they be super tough. Im gonna have a game on saturday. 1750 points.
Secondary question: Great swordsmeni and how do you use them and in what numbers.

>>52086644
Halberds are a cheap effective way to put the hurt to them but you will need to shoot them up before they engage.

Try handgunners.

What to each of the winds do the wizards in terms of appearance?
Like Aqshy makes the castors have arcane tats and flaming hair.

>>52086484
the WFRP 1E collection of adventures

>>52086748
Lore of Fire = Flaming Hair, Hot to touch, and Fiery Anger
Lore of Shadows = Slowly more unfamiliar face, mundane, and a shadey aura
Lore of Death = Emanciated, Deathly looking, and Pale
Lore of Beasts = Growing Horns, Abnormally long finger nails and toenails, absurd amount of bodyhair
Lore of Life = Naturally growing Fauna off the body, Incredibly young looking, and Smooth skin
Lore of Metal = Metallic skin, Magnetic touch, and extremely statuesque
Lore of the Heavens = Otherworldly Aura/Presence felt, Piercing Starry eyes
Lore of Light = Glowing with Luminescence, Reflective Body of Light Sources, and Naturally gleam when Light shines on you

These are only blemishes of Arcane Marks/Blemishes just so you know, you're better off looking in Realms of Sorcerey but I thought I'd let you be aware they can be more than what it labels

>>52087242
>Naturally growing Fauna off the body

Hopefully you mean flora.

I wanted to thank the anon which talked about oldhammer last thread. I am getting interested for the first time and it's great.

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>>52075619

Well you got the eternal enemies that is Orcs and Goblins and Skaven. But what gets dorfs really riled up are chaos dorfs.

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>>52083020

>Skeleton champion
>Mikeal Jacsen

That rattled my bones

>>52088512
Don't they just act like they don't exist?

going through the Age of Sigmar section on Games Workshop's website is just depressing. So many fantastic models and kits are gone permanently.

I wish I stocked up on battalion boxes before they ran out. Everything on ebay is ridiculously priced now.

>>52080833

>implying a dwarf army can't just field those 8-20 warmachines and then go full melee

Hell, they got some of the strongest infantry in the game.

The cannons are just an incentive for your opponent to get into melee faster

>>52086644

C A N N O N S

W A R M A C H I N E S

S T E A M T A N K
Alternatively, great weapons, lore of shadow/death

>>52089270
In germany the prices on ebay for used minis are ok, especially the plastic stuff. Even bretonnia isn't that bad. Only certain TK units are seriously overblown, but that's because they are really stromg in AoS, which is going to change soon. Once the ghb2 is released the nerfhammer will hit them, so check ebay by then of you want these.

>>52073010
I'm fucking spooked right now

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>>52090055

>>52088439
No worries mate, it's my favourite ruleset and setting for Warhammer Fantasy. I highly recommend realmofchaos80s and Warhammer For Adults as blogs you should read - the latter has some hilarious battle reports while the former is a goldmine for lore and classic minis.

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>>52090231

>>52090701
I would recommend you then the blogs known as:
-Madhouse Society
-Oldhammer in Toronto
-Somewhere the Tea's getting cold
-Realm of Citadel: Slaves to Lead
-Leadplague
-Lead Rising
-Stro'Knor Macekiller
I have a hunch you would enjoy them, full of old miniatures nicely painted and such

>>52091288
Thank you very much, some of these I've read and some I haven't.

>>52086644

Demi-gryph Knights will make mincemeat of them.

Large block of 10 x 5 halberds will do better than any other core.

Cannons will really hurt them.

In regards to Greatswords... as much as I love them they're not a great unit. I still take them though but you pretty much have to have them in a 10 x 4 block to get anything out of them. A 4+ save and their priority will see them dying by the bucket-load before they get into combat.

Whats the best way to run vermintide on tabletop, heavily modified mordheim rules or whfrp?

>>52091668
Mordheim

>>52091668
WFRP isn't so good with huge battles, and hordes quickly become very lethal. I'd go with Mordheim.

>>52091593
Theres also this ones:
-Ernys Place
-Oldhammer on a Budget
-Oldhammer in the New World
-Rob Hawkins Hobby (he was a former team mate of the White Dwarf in the USA)
-The Black Castle
-Give'em Lead
Do hope you enjoy them

>>52092113
>>52091288
>>52090701
thank you for the blogs, but while we are talking about it, for now i have only been reading slaves to darkness,because i am mostly reading out of interest, after that i might actually get ingaged with the game, but i have a question. Realm of chaos is absurdly well developed, huge amounts of tables and stuff to build your champion and that's great, but the other factions don't have a book each right? So they don't have nearly half as much stuff as chaos does right?(i know it's not supposed to be competitive and it wouldn't be that big a problem, just wanted to understand)

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>>52079255
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll look into those straight away. Although, I think Brother Vinnies Conquistadors look pretty good as well. Only problem is getting my hands on them, and the quality.

Also, my other concern is that I dont want her to be too "Shamanistic." She should be a bit of a mix of Old World Magic and Lizardmen relics and icons she's managed to steal.

Also, thanks! Here's my first bit of work done.

>>52076722
I suppose the Skinks would be based around those found in caves, and would be sort of loyal to the Necromancer. The idea would be sort of like her forcing the Spawning Pool to release the unused embryo's with Dhar magic, in hopes to spawn actual lizardmen. However, the embryo's are tainted with magic, producing the twisted Albino skinks instead, barely intelligent creatures loyal to their adopted "Slann"

>>52091668
Fighting more than one opponent, or more than two if they only have 1 attack, can go really fucking poorly in WHFRP, at least in Second Edition. I imagine that might make a Vermintide based game a little difficult.

>>52092659
What is multiple attacks, anon?

>>52092468
Chaos is the most well-developed yes. All the other armies of the period did receive a supplement, albeit only one for all of them, called Warhammer Armies.This contains the slightly more competitive army lists in one volume.

>>52092780
Something that is unlikely to help much against a large group of enemies unless under circumstances that are actively in your favor.

>>52093087
If players are not choosing better ground to fight enemies then they are truly fucked and deserve it.

Mordheim it is, thanks y'all

>>52092468
If I remenber correctly Slaves to Darkness and The Lost and The Damned is from the 3rd edition, and back then the rulebook had whithin the armybooks for each race, as well as the lists to have a allied contingent of Mercenaries, Dark Elves, Zoats, and Chaos. Basically what this kind chap said
>>52093063
I do remenber that in a spanish website theres the 3rd edition Warhammer Armies for download along with other things of interest. Search for "La Biblioteca del Gran Nigromante" and there look for "Reglamentos y Descargas". For more specific stuff type in the blogs finder what your looking for

Well well well.. How to include wights that are not!lotr ones?

>>52094168
that aren't*

>>52093914
>>52093063
warhammer armies is in the op as well, thank you both

>>52094168

Well they're basically just an important dead guy, usually a King.

So really they are just going to look like the previous civilisation which in the Old World is kind of barbaric or what the Vampire Counts soldiers look like. So there isn't much room for alternatives I suppose unless you raise them from another part of the world.

What are your favorite warhammer fantasy novels /tg/?

>>52096126

Gotrek and Felix.

>>52096126
Skarsnik

>>52096126
Beasts in Velvet

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>>52096126
Queek Headtaker

>>52096126

The entire Thanquol series.

People who play Warhammer Fantasy don't usually take the events of end times as canon, but do you take information from the end times as canon?
Such as, Lady of the Lake = Lileath

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>>52097718
You disgrace the Lady with your words.

Almost nothing about the End Times is worth reading. None of it is cannon to me because of how half-assed it was.

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>>52097718

Anything that doesn't result in the world ending and doesn't contradict existing canon, or at least just simply fills in former holes.

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>>52096126
The Black Plague series. War of Vengeance is pretty good, though the third book kinda loses steam.

>>52097718
Nope. They couldn't even get Nagash right. He was already resurrected hundreds of years ago. Basically ET got nothing right.

>>52097765
Everyone already speculated she was an elf tho

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>>52097958
The only thing that was definitely an elf was the Fey Enchantress, which doesn't really mean much. There isn't anything off about an elf worshipping a human goddess. It's rare, sure, but not completely out of the realm of possibility.

Besides, the very nature of gods/warp entities prevents her being someone else. The Bretonnians have worshipped her since ancient times and that worship creates a presence in the warp. It's the same way Sigmar became a god, even though Sigmar the man died long ago. If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times; GW had to change the rules of the setting to make their hack story work.

>>52098002
She can't have been created from worship because she was already there when Gilles met her

>>52098126
The Lady predates her meeting with Gilles. It was only after the formation of the kingdom that the religion built around her was made the state faith.

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>>52098149
>>52098126
Her meeting with Gilles is simply the first time she chose to meet with mortals, as he, Landuin and Theirulf were the first Grail Knights.

>>52098149
Really?
I never heard about this, thought the story was Gilles met the lady before that critical battle and only after that bretonnians started worshiping her.

>>52097958
Could have been Isha tho. Could have been just about any female goddess - a mistaken Shallya or Verena.

>>52098202
The idea that Bretonnia barely worships other gods bothers me. Making Bretonnia essentially monotheistic makes it rather boring - not because monotheistic religions are boring, real history proves different, but because they then lose all flavor outside of the narrow spectrum of society that gets represented in rulebooks.

>>52098837
I think you're reading into it wrong. It isn't saying that the ancient, and modern day, Bretonnians were monotheistic, only that the Lady was their prime deity back then as it is in the current year. Hell, the primary temple of Shallya is based in Courrone, Bretonnia. Then there is also the Abbey de Maisontaal. Bretonnians still worship the other human gods, save Sigmar obviously, but the Lady always comes first for the nobility.

>>52098837
Bretonnia is nowhere near monotheistic. Read Knights of the Grail. Even nobles trust Morrite priests completely with their dead. Bretonnia has more shrines and Shallyan faithful than anywhere else in the world (literally one of the only things Bretonnian peasants won't tolerate is being farther than a day's walk from some shrine or temple). Taal & Rhya are respected, especially by peasants. Manaan is a big deal, bigger than the Lady in some places.

>>52097718

Nah. Usually something non-cannon can be used an information on how a character would act in a similar situation even if it didn't happen.

But in this instance GW really didn't give a flying fuck about End Times and so they just wrote anything to wrap the series up and squeeze money out of people who thought this was the road to 9th edition.

For this reason it can be completely disregarded. It is for all intents and purposes an alternative timeline. Storm of Chaos is the cannon 'End Times'.

>>52098869
>>52098913
But it very clearly says 'other gods,' as in multiple, 'such as those of the empire,' which are Taal, Morr, etc, 'gained a small foothold' 'on the fringes of Bretonnian territory.' So they are not worshiped widely in Bretonnia.

>>52098977
Read Knights of the Grail. You are wrong.

>>52098977
It also mentions this was far, far in the past. 'Stone age' which means after the Warp Gates collapsed. Obviously that has changed.

>>52098977

It just means primacy. The Lady is the prime Goddess in all those interior regions. She's the default there but if a crop fails or someone dies they have specific Gods.

It means only on the fringes of Bretonnia will you find a town where Shallya is the main God and is worshipped as much as, or more, than the lady of the lake. Probably areas very far from the large cities where worship of a specific god predates the state of Bretonnia.

>>52098987
I'm not going to hold a story over what's being clearly stated in what I assume must be some rulebook fluff.

>>52099016
>>52099022
It says 'worship of this goddess,' i.e. the Lady, existed since stone age times. It also makes it clear by 'still reigns supreme' that other gods have not overtaken the worship of her, and only have 'a small foothold.'

>>52098202
>>52098837
I thought that was only for nobles?
Weren't peasants forbidden from worshiping the lady, at least in churches or anywhere official?

>>52099028
Knights of the Grail was the last published Bretonnian sourcebook.

Look, if you aren't actually interested in a setting with lore, I'm sure the AoS General could use a new poster, or one of the 20 Magic threads.

>>52099060

Where does it say that 'reigns supreme' means monotheism? 'Supreme' by it's definition means the highest ranking, not the only.

>>52099071
In older lore, yes. In last modern lore, no.

Peasants still prefer Shallya.

>>52099060
That doesn't mean that you don't pay respects to Manann when boarding a sailing ship or give thanks to Shallya when your wife has a healthy child. The Lady is dominant, not the only god.

>>52099071
The guy who wrote the book couldn't make up his mind as the army book clearly has peasants worshipping her, while his novels has them weirdly outlawed.

>>52099095
They make it clear that worship of other deities barely exists in Bretonnia - on the fringes of their territory. It's not truly monothestic because that small inclusion, but it might as well be.

Honestly i quite like the lady being an elven goddess, makes for an interesting situation.

>>52099150

It really doesn't make it clear at all though and there's tons of evidence to show all Gods are worshipped with the Lady of the Lake being the Queen of Gods for them.

Again, nearly every polytheistic religion has a prime God, that's what it's talking about.

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>>52099150
What part of 'ancient times' do you not understand?

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>>52099184
Mayhaps in other sources, before or after, but not in that one - that one is being very firm on the idea that other gods barely exist, as far as Bretonnia is concerned.

>>52099239

M8 you're just arguing for the toss now. If you want Bretonnia to be Monotheistic then keep it headcannon.

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>>52099226
I can't put it better that I've put it here. >>52099060 There is a clear sense that 'still,' as in the present, the Lady is the dominant deity in a 99% sense.

>>52099174

It was always heavily implied and I don't really mind it but I think it was better when it had some mystery to it.

>>52099174
It was a bit of a mystery, yes, but there was a little wiggle room with how the cosmology of the setting worked on if the Lady had become a human deity in her own right or not. Things had never been made clear on where the difference between Elven and Human deities began.

>>52099293
She still reigns supreme, but that's it. She isn't the sole god. Video games is the dominant form of entertainment in some places, but that doesn't mean tvs and movies cease to exist there. They simply have little influence in Bretonnia because the cult of the Lady is the main religion of the nobility who hold all the power.

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Someone said GW would be showing off a new game at Adeptacon this year. I know it was 90% likely to be Adeptus Titanicus but does anyone have conformation?

I cannot deny that a small part of me hopes for a FW lead Fantasy revival.

>>52099487
Please sweet baby Sigmar, let it be an open world Warhammer RPG. A good one, not some Bethesda shit.

>>52099515

I think they meant a wargame not vidya. At the last open day they let people play AT in 28mm so I assumed they would just be showing people the real deal this time around.

>>52099550
Oh, likely some specialist stuff coming back.

>>52099575
Or a box set of existing minis designed to sell them, similar to their Eldar Akira bike set.

Which 1d4 articles are actually good? I noticed there is a lot of difference. Some seem to be good but make a lot of claims without source, and others just look like tactics pages combined with fanfiction.

>>52099647

None of them really. Nobody who cares edits it anymore.

What are you looking for? Lore or crunch? For the former, the Warhammer Wikia is the best and regularly updated.

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Why did they have to go and spoil it all by sculpting this cunt in 32mm. He's a perfect Life Wizard.

Hi, I am getting my first game of WHFB tomorrow 8th edition and I am working on a 1000 point empire list. I probably need help making a functional list but I am asking for cheese as well, not Stank+life wizard bad but good pointers as I will explain later.

The list I have made in my mind, nothing solid but I have a small Empire collection so most things I can do unless you are recommending bricks a 30 greatswordsmen.

Lords: 109
Arch Lector great weapon, heavy Armour, ulrik cloak 159
Heroes: 218
battle wizard Probably beasts as I am a fan of their signature
BSB griffon banner, full plate, and shield 153
Core: 412
32 Spearmen with shields and full command 228 with 2 detactments
10 hand gunners 90
10 crossbows 90
Special:
5 Pistoliers 90
1 mortar 100
985

The list might be illegal as I am not exactly sure if detachment size limit is per detachment or total. The musician for the pistoliers seem rather redundant DESU, the main advantage of swift reform seems a lot less useful on fast cav. The biggest problem is the fact that I have made a deathstar out a shitty unit and mortars apparently suck.

The opponent is a guy with a bit of a plastic crack addiction and has multiple armies but I am predicting Dwarfs as all he does when he talks about the subject is cheesy, dangerously cheesy Dwarf lists: Napoleon McBlownapart and crushing a Skaven player so hard he quit WHFB before he really started and he did with an unkillable lord on the shield mount claiming 2+ rerollable ward, which I sincerely doubt; probably a T6 dwarf lord with a rerollable 1+ armour and maybe a ward save, but probably not given that dawnstone, helm or rune, leaves little room for a ward and an ogre blade.

Basically I am expecting cheese so without institutional knowledge from having a WHFB group to call upon I am rather paranoid given all I know about dwarves is the Miniwargaming series. Hammerers and volley guns

1/2

>>52100526
2/2

the list would probably go light years if I swapped up the heroes up by having the lector get downgraded to warrior priest and the wizard going up to Lord.

>>52100526

Well you seem to know your onions, so I don't need to say much. You know mortars are a pretty specific weapon, maybe have a use against Skaven but against Dwarfs I doubt it will do much.

One of the problems I have is that you have no hammer unit. Spears will tie the enemy up a bit and poke a few to death but where's the meat? Where's the killers at?

At 1000 points I would go

Wizard Lord

Warrior priest

30 Spearmen
+ detachment of 20 halberds

Demi-Gryph Knights

Pistoliers may do something against his warmachines

To be honest, your opponent sounds like a bit of a bellend. I would always go easy on people just getting in, it's usually fun to give stuff a run out that usually stays on the shelf. Also, at 1000 points Warhammer is about as balanced as a seesaw, so again no point in bringing the cheese.

>>52099665
Just in general. Stuff like Wurrzag looks like someone made it up. Neferata seems legit but is reallu full of jokes.

>>52100714

Alternatively, Knights as core may be the way to go at that level. I suppose it depends which models you have.

>>52086644
Never played, but Great swordsmen seem to be a way to deliver stubborn to core units; they don't seem very good in the grand view of things as comparing apples to apples makes them look bad in comparison to high elfs and dwarfs, but they are probably good against units that always strike last like them as the enemy will probably win combat, but you really hit them back as well. Maybe they get good if you stack them into a death star, but cavalry should do that better. Stubborn seems pretty great as they can tie stuff up pretty good with it. The problem I am thinking of is that most of the stuff you would want to throw them at rather then your other infantry will have initiative over them due to always strikes last (orks, ogres, and dwarves), but against armies with higher initiative they probably do well as they are armored unlike your pajama wearing foot slogging alternatives.

>>52100866
Funnily enough in my original config I had a brick inner circle knights lead by general with Runefang; I'll look if I still have it, as it was a list I made months ago.
>>52100714
You are right; I guess better questions would be: is a BSB worth it at 1k as i will only have one major unit that if it breaks it is game anyway; and is bringing a lvl 4 wizard a shitty thing to do, even if it is against dwarves. I got 3 demis but 12 knights and general on horse so, I think a small inner circle brick is in the cards.

>>52100793
1d4chan is really for once you're versed in the material.

They've been trying to stick to the lore more lately to avoid skub, but it really sucks they can't laugh at themselves more. I enjoyed bad jokes about Warhammer and fan theories and perspectives more than I ever did dry articles.

>>52101166
Humour never hurt but they should have facts more in focus. I like the line about Lahmian vampires disguising themselves as cats so a guy takes them home where they transform themselves back into a woman and fug his brains out like it's an /ss/ comic.

Kinky idea here what if I put my wizard in the pistolier unit? Now against dwarfs it seems a bit suicidal, but if they actually commit to combat they would die anyway, and having them as fast cav would be pretty tricky with a wizard.

>>52100358
considering warhammet is 28mm epic proportions, he will look like a big guy but not out of place

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I've really gotten into the lore of whfb through Total War,wikis, and that Arch Warhammer fellow. Everything about the game excites me and makes me want to try it. But this beautiful theoretical bride becomes a pillar of salt upon learning about Age of Sigmar.
Am I too late? Were all the good times had? Where would I get models for non extortionate prices and even granting that, it takes more than a single player to tango this game. Are there still enough people who play to justify buying an army as a new player?

>>52102017
Take a look at E-Bay, you should be able to get some models on the cheap and use Simple Green to take off the paint so you can do your own job.

Also, try to find a game of WFRP on Roll20. It'll help immerse you in the lore and keep your interest, even if you can't buy an army or find someone to use it with.

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Reminder that this is how Storm of Chaos should have ended.

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>>52102017
I've seen people still playing in spots, and lots of people enjoy the setting if nothing else.

I can't really know what to recommend, because frustratingly among /tg/ hobbies, tabletop wargames are stuck on the tabletop until a good computer equivalent becomes available. You might not have anyone in your area, but someone two towns over might be interested in a game. Best you can do is try to get some attention at your local gamestore, maybe buy a pair of small armies so you can run trial games to see if people would be interested in playing.

>>52091668
No bully pls: Age of Sigmar. Silver Tower is pretty much vermin tide tzeentch edition. You can also take a look at hinterlands skirmish for further inspiration.

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What are your favourite army books?

Mine are 6th edition Wood Elves and Bretonnia, both are incredibly comfy to leaf through whenever I want to remeniss about old times

>>52096345
I've read a few books.
This shit got so repetive. In its style and content.

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>>52103722
Dark Elves 6th edition, purely for nostalgic reasons. It was the book that got me into Warhammer back in 2001 or 2002

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>>52101952
>he will look like a big guy

is there an up to date link for the "800ish 40k & Fantasy novels, army books, etc" from the pastebin link? i just want to check out some Warhammer Fantasy novels but i have no idea where to start

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>>52103722
For all the shit the 7th demon book got, I really liked the fluff in it.

>>52080861
>this pic

Holy shit this brings me back. Warhammer had top tier imaginery and design.
Now we have generic wow tier shit to appeal to normies.
I want to get back.

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>>52101952
Random imperial soldier seeing him
>Youre a big guy

>>52096345
>>52096558
>>52096601
>>52096639
>>52097331
>>52097849

Thanks for the recommendations boys

>>52103921
I could come back to those art pieces several times and always find something new

>>52102017
>Were all the good times had?
No, there's even more good times ahead.
>Where would I get models for non extortionate prices and even granting that
Ebay or third party minis
>it takes more than a single player to tango this game. Are there still enough people who play to justify buying an army as a new player?
Yes because nowadays you can just base your minis on square bases and use them for all kind of systems : WHFB, T9A, KoW, AoS if that's your thing

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>>52076506
I was the anon who told you about Luthor and the Vampire Coast a few days ago.

Lore-wise, I would make her an associate/assistant of Luthor Harkon - who can't reanimate undead anymore due to the backlash of the slann magic, so likely needs one. Vampires often have necromancers as apprentices (check out the stories in 6th edition undead army book if you can). In fact, it's never really explained how Luthor gets his zombies since the accident, so it would fit fairly well. Conquistador vampire is fine, you could have pirate thralls, or norscan as well (lots of new world explorers are norscans)

For your skellingtons, don't forget to give them some imperial gear as well.
For corpse carts, you could have zombies or skellies carrying small boats.
Lower necromancers as voodoo sorcerers

For your necromancer lord, you could probably look into Malifaux minis.

>>52099515

I'd rather a Bloodborneish game set in Mordheim

>>52104499
>>52103801
Tell me about the wizard. Why does he use Ghyran?

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How experienced/skilled are the state troops, from province to province? Do some provinces see more action than others?

>>52103722
6th Vampire Counts since it was the first I bought

the 6th ed Wood Elves book really drew me into the game though, I fucking loved that book. I love the Bretonnian one too.

>>52106785
Every regiment of state troopers had some better and worse fights. Depends on the region. I.e. Wissenland - greenskins, vamps, brigands from border princes and mountains, horsefuckers from west. Nordland - norscans, vagabonds, elves from laurelorn etc

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>>52107361
>horsefuckers

Knowing how much they care about their horses, Bretonnians probably wouldn't dare - they'd probably be afraid to mess up the proud lineages of their horses, which are probably better maintained than their nobles!

>>52103722
6e Dorfs.

>For all intents and purposes, it's not the same universe.
I can understand that it's not everyone's cup of tea, but it kind of is.

>>52108111
It isn't.

There's 4 major timelines. Only one leads to AoS, and its bundled with AoS.

>>52108111
Techncially speaking, ET is part of the Warhammer setting more than AoS. But only barely.

It's like trying to compare Ragnarok to the rest of the Norse mythos, only if Ragnarok had characters acting somewhat out of character and had events unfold that at points barely make narrative sense.

>>52108192
>>52108751

Please go away with end times and smegmar bullshittery.

Does it hurt to see AoS blossoming into a beautiful flower?
Does it hurt knowing GW was right?

http://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/36971/top-5-non-collectible-miniature-games-fall-2016

>>52102248
No.
That would have made no sense.

>>52109208
I'm glad that you start this as the thread is dying anyway.

>>52109208
>beautiful

>>52109283
>the living will envy the dead

>>52103839

Same question, lol

why did they spell Ickymaster with an 'e'? is it supposed to be medieval? why isn't there an extra 'e' on the end?

>>52110894
Lichemaster you mean?

I assume a compromise between English Lich and German Leiche.

>>52097718
No. Because I like when my settings remain ambiguous. That way characters can have different ideologies without being objectively right or wrong. Like real people instead of cardboard cutouts and mouthpieces.
What's the point in giving a definite answer to those questions? It adds nothing to the setting.

>>52111856
This.
A setting is made of maps and plot hooks. Not one single story and everything else shelved or ignored entirely.

>>52097718
>People who play Warhammer Fantasy don't usually take the events of end times as canon

Maybe salty idiots don't, but they don't actually get to decide what is canon.

>>52097718
No.

As far as I am concerned (and the RPGs as well), nothing published after Storm of Chaos is canon

>>52109208
It doesn't matter, nobody plays AoS in my country anyways.

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>What should I put on my shield?
>How about me?
>I'm a good king

>>52112543
This will confuse some orc.