Pathfinder General - /pfg/

Sarenrae did nothing wrong

>>52014523
A minor one, the Skald and Bolt ace of the party were angry with each others

The Skald casted Unnatural Lust on a Stirge, targetting the Bolt Ace as petty vengeance.

What's this? Pathfinder general without fucking degenerate ass furry waifu shit? I am frightened and confused

>>52014576
This is not much better

>>52014597
It's a LITTLE better. Not much, but a little.

>>52014523
>>52014576
Don't hug me, I'm scared.

>>52014550

I get the joke, but not why it applies to Sarenrae.

>>52014576
That OP definitely includes degeneracy, ass, fur, and waifu.

>>52014671
Sexyflumph is not for waifu, anon.

So with TFW as an unchained hidden blade rogue I am realize I'm looking at somewhere around this at level 3 (using two short swords):

+5/+5 to hit (+7/+7 if flanking) (+6/+6 if power attacking)
1d6 (short sword) + 1d6 (outer sphere stance) + 2d6 (sneak attack if flanking or enemy flat footed) + 4 (dexterity) + 2 (piranha strike, +1 with offhand)

For a total of around 8d6+11 at most.

I'm really not sure if this is worth it at level 3.

So what's the best domain for an archer inquisitor with giant blood? I'm looking at Erastil, Fandarra, Skode, Tjasse, and Skrymir for deities.

So I have been playing as a Monk and as a reward for a quest I got one Ki Intensifying Adamantine Gauntlet. These might seem like some basic questions but I can't seem to wrap my head around them:

Is this considered armor?
What would the Enhancement Bonus be?
and do I add the damage of the gauntlet to my already existing unarmed strike damage?

>>52014816
>Is this considered armor?
No.
>Enhancement bonus
Ask your DM.
>Add damage
The devs will tell you no. You need to talk to your DM about this.

What's the best way to RP a Cha 3 character.

>>52014816
Gauntlets on their own are considered to be weapons, not armor.

Its enhancement bonus has to be at least +1 to have Ki Intensifying attached, but it could be higher. Your DM will know.

You do not add the gauntlet's damage to your unarmed strike's damage. You just use the gauntlet's 1d3. Your DM may houserule otherwise.

It looks like the only real reason to have this would be to bypass DR/Adamantine, and if your DM made it available, he may be getting ready to pit you against something that will have that DR.

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>3dpg in OP
Eugh

Y'all are sum sick fucks, but thanks for the break in the unrealistic anime dumpile

>>52014622
Well see, since Sarenrae is the patron of Qadira, and Qadira is the fantasy middle east, clearly Sarenrae's worship must be comparable to Islam.

And everyone knows muslims are Nazis. Therefore Sarenrae is literally Hitler.
Therefore she did nothing wrong.

How would you use your int bonus for shit like perception without traits or dipping?

>>52015025
Play an Investigator or a Sleepless Detective.

>>52014936
so what you're saying is, even though my unarmed strike is 1d8, since I am using the gauntlet to attack, I have to use a 1d3?

I'd image the 1d3 was only put there because that is what the standard unarmed strike damage is, not taking into account that this is greater for Monks

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>>52014935
Just be yourself.

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Pot your party /pfg/! Or your players

>>52015090
R-Rude! My cha isn't 3! R-right? :_: No bully.

Can you perform somatic components while holding a spear in one hand?

>>52015077
RAW, you take the gauntlet's damage. Ask your GM.

>>52014714
Are you trying to out-damage the barbarian? If not then you're fine.

>>52015133
Yes. You just need one hand free.

>>52015133
Yes. You only need one hand for somatic components, which is why you can do them while holding a rod.

>>52015077
That's why you should ask your DM about it. The gauntlet's "otherwise considered as an unarmed attack" clause is ambiguous, and the devs have specified that monks don't get to overwrite their damage on the gauntlet.

>>52015133
Yes

judge m' sheet /pfg/

what did i fuck up on

this is for dragons btw

https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1129446

>>52015354
>this is for dragons btw
Dragonborn or Dragon 2?

There's a difference.

>>52015354
... this isn't going to be a five page thing is it?

Some of them were quite readable and even cute, but when I read through them again last night they'd gained a couple of chapters.

I'm not the GM, but goddamn...

>>52015354
Are background skills in play?

>>52015008

I was referring to that thing she did near the Pit of Gormuz.

>>52015372
drugun 2

>>52015375
i havent written her up yet.

>>52015385
i dont think so.

>>52015354
>using <that> pic
I think it's cute but...

I don't want any more competition.

Please consider withdrawing. Surely there are other games you can apply this one to.

>>52015397
You would be wrong.
>Optional rules in use are:...
>Background skills and skill unlocks
14 skill points per level.

>>52015437
>I don't want any more competition.

Is this Aurora?

Is Aurora getting jealous? Vicious little ankle-biter, that one.

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I want to make a spell that justifies the magus arcane mark cheese, and this is what I've got thus far.

It think it might be too complicated, and I can't really get a feel for how balanced it is. Halp fellow fa/tg/uys.

>>52015460
There are now more than 30 apps. Surely, you feel that your odds are better elsewhere....

This may be a weird question /pfg/, but does anyone have good character art of beardless dwarves? In particularly dwarves wearing masks or dwarves that look like good rogues/thieves.

Beardless is the most important.

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>>52015477

>Aurora's getting nervous

Hey, without any tits you could get right up in my face!

>>52015448
Wait, automatic skill unlocks or meaning you can take the feat?

>>52015479

There's no such thing as a beardless dwarf.

But not all dwarves have their beards on their faces.

>>52015354
There's someone named Forte already.

>get an idea for a really interesting and fun character for dragongame thanks to sleep deprivation

>I already applied

>>52015500
I'm not the GM, but I'm guessing Signature Skill is on the table for everyone, otherwise Rogue's Edge would be a lot less useful.

>>52015509
i know i just remade the sheet into something not a granblue clone.

because i got """INSPIRED"""

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What are some enticing rewards for unrelated heroes about level 13 entering a fighting tournament against each other?

So far I have
>Fully Functioning Bone Ship
>The Third eye of a Twilight Pitri Manasaputra
>A partially functioning Devastator
I just bought Bestiary 5.

What's your favorite dump stat /pfg/?

>>52015561
Strength

>>52015561
Dex.

>proposed name for my dwarf's social identity
Korkazak Morukdar Yugnat Undulukval-Slagdam
>proposed name for my dwarf's vigilante identity
Iron Snap

The proposed shortening of the name is Kork. Is the name too long? I don't know how the connections for surnames work with dwarves because Slagdam being a Slag suffix.

>>52014935
You have almost no drive of your own, no ability to convince others based on your own beliefs because you very well might not be sure of your own beliefs. You stare awkwardly at people's feet, shuffling your own before muttering quickly and haltingly, as if you were reading from a script in Middle School, sometimes loudly saying one or two words, over and over again. You might or might not be attractive despite all of this; some autists that I know literally can't function without assistance from a family member or a guide but are drop-dead gorgeous if you just looked at them from a photograph.

>>52015561
In order:
STR
CHA
WIS
CON
DEX
INT

Losing skill points hurts, man. In 5e I've dumped int no problem though.

>>52015599
>con above int
Bloodforge was a mistake.

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>>52015599
>Ever dumping Con

>>52015561
I dump Wisdom whenever I think I can get away with it. Never liked prepared casters anyways.

Need an excuse to go through with every plan that I know is bad but I want to see happen.

>>52015613
>>52015608
>what are stereotypical non-undead necromancers

>>52015561
I only dump Charisma.

>>52015608
>>52015613

Between WIS and CON is the 'never dump' line.

Bloodforge doesn't let you get INT to HP

>>52015638

Why does JJ always dump WIS then, huh?

>>52015632

>stereotypical non-undead necromancers

Anon, if you're going to fall over dead just because you were exposed to a little negative energy, you have no business taking up necromancy.

Rory 2 is missing something vital.

>>52015593
This helps. Thanks.

>>52015632
Dead because they got sick from hanging around their own fucking undead.
>>52015651
Fetishes.

>>52015661
>Fetishes.

Oh please, that can't be the only reason! All of his self-inserts are lovely young women with low Wisdom and bardic inclinations.

>>52015513
I mean

I applied with Ezekiel beforehand, then said "I dont like this" and scrapped him for Rory.

>>52015651
WIS is above the never dump line.

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>>52015678
>scrapped him for Rory.
I hope...

when we hug for the first time.

You aren't angry it ends like this.

>>52015720
Amazing. Absolutely amazing.

Man, Dragon Game might beat Raunchy in apps in one third the open period.

>>52015561
Everything except INT. There is nothing INT can't do.

>>52015762
hp

>>52015769
even that has its ways

>>52015162
>you will never cast spells while clutching your rod in one hand

Why even live?

>>52015762
>There is nothing INT can't do.

Get you laid.

>>52015561
INT
I like playing a cute dummy.

>>52015513
>>52015720
And I switched out Mahaan for a way memeier character, so no regrets.

Do what you like.

>>52015788
The homunculus companion alchemist archetype would disagree.

>>52015651
I dump WIS sometimes because a WIS of8 is a good number for represenrepresenting youthful inexperience, recklessness, and a brash or rude demeanor.

>>52015809
My own clone!
Now neither of us will be virgins!

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>>52015809
>my own clone!
>now neither of us will be a virgin!

>>52015809

It doesn't count when you made it with your own blood.

>>52015561
Strength. For a full caster you can easily go to 8 since all it affects is:
>Carrying capacity
>Melee to hit and damage (haha)
>Combat maneuver checks (if you're in melee you're doing something wrong)
>Climb, Athletics, and sunder checks (all can be replaced by a spell).

>>52015826
Divayth Fyr disagrees.

>>52015825
>>52015823
Clonemind.

>>52015792
I only dump INT when I'm playing a burly brute who likes fighting and breaking things or when I play dumb healsluts.

>>52015826
Are you saying that someone who fathered a daughter via sperm donation can't have their virginity stolen by that daughter?

>>52015848
I prefer to play athletic qts that are really opinionated and sexy but super dumb.

>>52015776
Name one way to get Int to hp

>>52015857
>Healing spells
>Temp hit points from spells
>Summoning a creature that can cast spells
>Etc

>>52015678
>>52015802
Yeah okay.

I'm also operating on like 1hr of sleep so I'm pondering if my idea has already been done and completely flew over my head, but I'll check that later.

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>>52015856
http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/gal-gohan-r20548/

>>52015880
What's your idea?

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>>52015879
>Healing spells
Restoring hp is not the same thing as having it in the first place

>Temp hit points from spells
Emphasis on temporary

>Summoning a creature that can cast spells
aaaand it's bait

>>52015653
Eagle, are you still feeling like you want to see more fightan characters over magican ones?

>>52015882
Whew lad. I didn't notice Chapter 3 was out.

>>52015850

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying because

>>52015856
>>52015882
There's a fine line between "dumb, attractive girl" and "bimbo" that I prefer not to cross, regardless of whether I'm playing it straight or trying to get my lewd on.

>enter a dungeon that has a hidden entrance in a village
>complete the mcguffin puzzle, retrieve the mcguffin
>the entire village has been petrified, learn that it's because the plot important mcguffin has been removed from the dungeon and only returning said mcguffin to its resting place will restore the village.
How would your your current or last character react to this, knowing that the item they hold which is vital for their original mission has turned an entire village of people who weren't even aware of its existence to stone.\

Would they return the mcguffin to it's resting place, or continue on, dooming these people to the life of a statue?

For sake of argument, we're assuming the mcguffin is vital to stopping an all consuming evil or other such plot.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12463366

>>52016031
I usually avoid bimbo by emphasizing the assertive athletic part more. She's not a submissive bitchgirl because she's too headstrong, and sometimes even grumpy, but she's still really dumb.

>>52015809
Excuse me, that is my daughter, you sick fuck.

>>52016044

Sounds like an unholy fusion of Darkness and Aqua.

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>>52015890
Since there are a lot of dragons with human forms(including my current app), I want to play a human with a dragon form who is taking on the ultimate disguise to access the grand treasure hoards of dragontown.

It's kind of half baked. I need coffee.

>>52016032
If they're suffering just end the suffering with sufficient hammer blows.

>>52016077
That sounds cute. You should do it.

I'm figuring out my point buy for my Dwarf Rogue/Vigilante for Dragons 2. I have narrowed it down to a few choices:
>8/17/14/16/14/8
>10/18/14/14/14/7
>7/18/15/14/14/10

I'm leaning towards choice #2 right now.

>>52016032
What's stopping them from returning it after they're done with it?

Here's my Dragon 2 character sheet. Any opinions/suggestions?
Bully me hard, boys.

https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1133482

>>52015910

Nah i'm feeling that Rory number two is missing nipple rings.

>>52016152
>don't have permission to view

Good job fucktard.

>>52016152
>https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1133482

We don't have permission to access it senpai

>>52016162
Oops. Let me fix that.

>>52016133
That's a good point, and is 90% of the reason I asked this question.

For sake of argument, assuming the ritual to stop said all consuming evil devours or otherwise dissolves the mcguffin as part of its process.

>>52016152
>30 year old human male, 6ft tall
For starters, you're not a tween, a trap or a femboy...

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>>52016167
You should be able to view it now, good sir.

>>52016212
Perhaps I should add 5 more inches?

>>52015882
Time to subscribe to another manga, wheeee~

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>>52016235
I just realized I grabbed the wrong image.

>>52016235
>mfw Rory is a 6'7" Ulfen male with 18 STR who walks around shirtless.

So what part of avowed will people pitch a fit about next? Will we have a Self Pact Episode Part 3, perhaps?

>>52016261
I'm mirin, sempai.

>>52016193
What's stopping the party from using other methods of restoring the petrified victims to life other than cost?
>>52016212
Shit sucks.

>>52016262
It's going to be the skill clauses.

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>>52016261
And what are Rory's stats in qt Awoo girl form?

>>52016352
Oh boy oh boy, are people triggered by those finally? Are they made that they exist at all? Do the devs seriously refuse to accept that they should scale up instead of plop a fat bonus on you?

I want to apply to Dragons 2 but it seems like one of those games where you don't actually play or adventure and just wank off to how "cute" and "lewd" things are.

When was the last time you took a prestige class?

I wrote them off a long time ago but now and then Paizo releases them and I get to wondering what I'm missing out on.

>>52016369
Still eighteen Wis and STR. But they look like a 5'0" awoo girl. Make of this what you will

>>52016396
Yes, and?

>>52016396
It's a good excuse to get wasted. Much like right now...

>>52016396
Do it. Be the savior that beats out one of the wanker's characters.

>>52016413
So she'd only be dom'd by people he'd want to be dom'd by?

>>52016434
Hit it with some INT damage.

>>52016415
I want to work and fight in the service of dragons. I want to adventure. I don't really care about 'lewd' or 'cute'.

That's what I don't like most of /pfg/'s games. I am not so starved for affection that I have to pretend for long periods of time with strangers that my character is receiving said affection.

However for some reason this is seen as a character flaw for me as a player by a good portion of /pfg/ that because I don't want to do 'lewd' or 'cute' things I don't roleplay or have any character interaction, which I don't understand, like the only interaction characters can have is 'cute' or 'lewd'?

Are people on /pfg/ really that starved for human contact?

>>52016456
I'm in the same boat as you are, dude.

>>52016152
I think your character needs more of a hook, more relevancy to the current situation and story, something...

Okay so imagine it like this. What events in your characters in your life should people be looking forward to, what sorts of personal revelations, stuff like that. Think about why people should be excited that your character has made it through and gets to play out his story.

Also I feel like I don't understand your character as a person. Things have happened in his backstory but I really don't know how he felt about any of them, what this means to him personally. Did he lose anyone really important to him when all his companions died? Was he always grim or was that something that came with the loss? How does he treat other people?

This stuff's really important, and I think it's something you should consider adding, even if it's just an extra couple of paragraphs on your profile.

>>52016456
>what is theming
but to answer your question, i'm in dragongame 1 and it's fucking radical so far in terms of adventure and action. Nobody's even had sex yet

>>52016445
>damaging her INT instead of willingly submitting to the D.

>>52015008

The argument can be made that Sarenrae's worship would be more akin to Zoroastrianism than Islam, seeing as Zoroastrianism is the TRUE faith of the Middle-East, despite however-many Mohammedan heathens dwell within Persia.

>>52016520
It's not like it needs any of it given its interactions seem pretty much possible even when near braindead.

>>52016517
I've had games ruined by it before so I am wary of applying at all. Especially because my character is not of a traditionally attractive race or of a "monstrous" race, is male, and isn't attractive even for his race.

>>52016386
My main issue with them was how easily they smash the (admittedly already fragile) balance of level 1-3 play.

You can break so many early APs by having a permanent +6 to stealth or bluff when that potentially almost doubles the average character's highest skill mod.

>>52016507
He lost a lot of good friends when the orcs attacked. So, while he tries to do the whole "always look on the bright side of life" routine, it bugs him that he wasn't able to save his comrades.

Long story short, he's looking for a second chance to prove himself and he feels that serving the Dragon Queen might be it.

Since we are talking about games, let's talk about something other than the dead on arrival /pfg/ games.
If you have ever talked about your game in /pfg/, or brought an issue up, tell us how it got resolved or ended.

>>52016386
>>52016352
They should really scale instead of just give +6. Flat +6 is retarded rather than scaling. Bonus equal to 1/3 or 1/4 level would be better.

>>52016456
>However for some reason this is seen as a character flaw for me as a player by a good portion of /pfg/ that because I don't want to do 'lewd' or 'cute' things I don't roleplay or have any character interaction, which I don't understand, like the only interaction characters can have is 'cute' or 'lewd'?

Psst anon, it's not that.

It's because you sound like a massive dick for looking down at an aspect that the majority of pfg enjoys and acting like you're the superior person for it.
It's not about you not enjoying lewd or cute, it's about sounding like you're an awful person to know.

>>52016456
I get where you're coming from, and I don't disagree that having to consider lewdness potential so you get accepted into an erogame is onerous.

My first character for Dragons was a pretty straightforward CG dick-ass rogue/witch with some ability to fuck with enemies and flight right out of the gate. But making a character who's integrated to the environment is pretty important, so I switched to something with a plot hook to give the GM and a bit more allure so other PCs might be inclined to 'like' them. Fundamentally I think that 'lewd' and 'cute' are aesthetics, and that in general your character should have some kind of 'appeal' and elements to make them memorable.

Adventuredude with a zweihander needs some meat. Even if you're not fucking anybody, it's nice to have some roleplay hooks for downtime and in-between scenes, as well as goals and ambitions within the setting so the GM can tempt you with a little carrot to go with your stick.

>>52016610
+3 scaling up every 3 levels to +6 would be best.

Anyone played a Stealth Summoner?
I'm rolling a seventh level Shackleborn Teifling that focus on stealth and summoning hordes of shit to attack while she sit in the shadows.
I'm having trouble deciding on spells though, any suggestions?

>>52016396

Have you seen any of the Greentexts of Dragons one?

Its not going to be like that.

>>52016584
Don't just tell me that, write it in your character profile you nerd. Think about his feelings, make them apparent, make people feel who he is not just how he appears from a distance and the laundry list of things that happened in his life!

>>52016655
You got it, coach!

>>52016613
Why am I am awful people for not wanting to participate?

>acting like you're the superior person for it.
You know what. I am going to just say it. Being so desperate for human contact that you need to roleplay 'lewd' activities with strangers over the internet is pathetic. Especially those who feel a pathological need to do so in every game and take up large amounts of game time to do it. If you want to do it in private them be my guest. The issue I have is when 1-2 players want to do it and demand the game halt to allow them to do so.

I'm not superior, I'm a degenerate for different reasons, but needing to put 'lewd' in every game is pathetic to a large degree. I have played with /pfg/ before and experiencing it just highlights it being pathetic. Reading it gives off this terrible desperation in people. It's sad. I feel sorry for them most of the time because they obviously are missing something in their lives.

>>52016649
Speaking of Dragons 1, are there any logs or summaries or something of the things that happened that are being stored somewhere? I'm fascinated to see what the rest of these games are like.

>>52016434
This is true.

>Prepared apps for a few different floating /pfg/ games, haven't posted any of them yet
I'm stuck in the "I want to quit Pathfinder forever" zone but I can't stop making characters

>>52016599
We found a giant's tome in Druma. It can enhance anyone's capabilities, but only once. (+2 to an ability score or set to 14, whichever is better.) Unfortunately only a giant can read it, so after some information digging we found out that there's a storm giant living in Nirmathas that helps the people out. We're hoping to get him to help us with the tome.

After last session we realized we need a guide, so I'm working on an archer Inquisitor with giant blood who knows the Nirmathi woods. He'll swap out with my pirate for now.

>>52016626
>Adventuredude with a zweihander needs some meat. Even if you're not fucking anybody, it's nice to have some roleplay hooks for downtime and in-between scenes, as well as goals and ambitions within the setting so the GM can tempt you with a little carrot to go with your stick.
This is what I'm fucking getting at. Why is not wanting to describe sex acts of head patting somehow mean that roleplay and downtime doesn't occur? You may not be one of them but there is a subset of /pfg/ who can not conceive of roleplaying without such things. It's sad.

>>52016684
But at the end of the day, we're the ones enjoying our games, so I guess joke's on you.

>>52016684

This poster is correct.

I got into a high-profile lewdgame.

I will do lewd stuff, but mostly I am present because most of the group seems to be into high-immersion play first and foremost: If hyper-degenerates had got in, I'd not be there.

I believe someone on /pfg/ put it best: "Even among applicants for a lewdgame, you really don't want to choose players who seem to be too eager to do lewd shit."

>>52016599
Well, here we go.
>had 2 players complaining about an npc faction they had met, based on a mythological group as was typical of my game
>other 3 players didn't have an issue, and 2 were further incensed for other reasons
>take thread's advice, sit down with the group to hash it out
>conversation gets heated
>player rips into the others for throwing doubt on me undeserved
>tfw a player actually stands up for the gm
>kicks the elephant in the room quite sturdily
>1 of the objecting players leaves, the other stays
>sigh, settle everyone down, tell the remaining objector that if their faith in me is so slim as to be tossed aside the moment they can find something to pin on me, then perhaps this game isn't for them
>but remind him that there were few problems over the preceding YEAR we have been playing, and the ones that came up were settled to everyone's satisfaction
The game proceeds tomorrow, and I have every intention of being properly GM and moving on from this scuffle.

>>52016713
I suppose you're right. I'm the odd man out in this community. Me disagreeing with how people play won't change most of the community.

>>52016727
This. The best lewdgames are just ordinary campaigns where lewd can happen, with maybe some fanservicey bits thrown in.

>>52016696

i have all the logs. from each session, Except the most recent one... which reminds me i should get on it with a greentext for the most recent one.

>>52016684
Okay, not the guy you responded to but are you fucking blind? He literally just told you, it's because you're coming across as a judgemental asshole who's making sweeping judgements about people. You were JUST told that the reason that people give you shit is because you're looking down on people and then you immediately followed it up with a rant about how everyone who wants to do those sorts of scenes are pathetic and desperate.

The problem is you, it's 100% you, we could be discussing anything right now and people would still be giving you shit for it because you're a smug judgemental fuckhatchet.

>>52016706
Why not just hire an npc guide?
>>52016684
>needing to put 'lewd' in every game is pathetic to a large degree
This is my issue with /pfg/ games. They are marketed a certain way intentionally, and that brings certain people I'd rather not play with out of the dirt.

>>52016727
>>52016747
The keypoint is that the people who apply are good players who also enjoy some lewd.

A spiteful attitude towards it like the other anon's doesn't get you anywhere.

>>52016752
Are you willing to publish them? I'd love to give them a read and see your GMing first hand.

>>52016747
>>52016727
Man I don't want 'fanservice' or 'lewdness'. I don't want to describe sex acts with a GM. I'm not a exhibitionist who wants others to read such things and I have no desire to describe such things with someone I am not romantically involved with or attracted to. I feel no drive to do it, especially with the average person who plays pathfinder.

>>52016789

Oh gosh no, my gming is terrible and full of spelling errors. honestly its a god damn fluke people enjoy my shit.

>>52016801
Good for you, a vast majority of games contain zero lewd or sexual content whatsoever! Go and enjoy them, join a game, join a dozen, they're everywhere!

>>52016777
That was the plan until I found the Hinterlander, and that giants worship Erastil under the name Estig. I might be dropping that part in favor of Skode, we'll have to see, but the GM wants us to have two characters each for some mix and match.

>>52016755
And maybe they are pathetic and desperate. That's the thing. A need to not be judged might be because you fear the judgement to be accurate.

>The problem is you, it's 100% you, we could be discussing anything right now and people would still be giving you shit for it because you're a smug judgemental fuckhatchet.
That's not even the problem here. I'm not talking about backlash against me. I haven't experienced that in games. I am talking about observations made about /pfg/'s general behavior and the behavior of others in games.

>>52016804
Just to clarify, I don't mean publish as in selling for money, I mean dump them into a google doc or a pastebin. I just want to see since I'm hoping to join Dragons 2 and it'd be nice to know vaguely what I'm getting myself into.

>>52016814
What games out of /pfg/ have no 'lewd'? I'd be extremely interested.

>>52016785
>The keypoint is that the people who apply are good players who also enjoy some lewd.
This is an opinion, anon, and you can in no way substantiate that to others.
Rather than yell about LOOOODS!, why not simply say that mature situations can happen and will be dealt with in the game?
>>52016814
I thought we were pointedly talking about /pfg/ games.

>>52016801
Actually, if you wanna do dragony stuff, you could try Dragonborn game, which generally discourages lewdness https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/69913/slash-pfg-slash-dragonborn-game

>>52016801

....I don't think you'll have problems finding games that meet those criteria.

If you don't like lewdgames and don't like Pathfinder players, why are you here? Gamefinder is just around the corner, dude.

Leave, you're free. YOU'RE FREE, YOU HEAR ME?

What happens if you use enlarge person in a tiny space?

>>52016855

Because I'm convinced that the application process is part of the spectacle: People are making games just to comb through appliicants without any intention of actually RUNNING these things.

Haven't you seen the pattern?

>>52016875
>If insufficient room is available for the desired growth, the creature attains the maximum possible size and may make a Strength check (using its increased Strength) to burst any enclosures in the process. If it fails, it is constrained without harm by the materials enclosing it–the spell cannot be used to crush a creature by increasing its size.

Come on anon.

>>52016830
90% of the shitposting is just completely ignoring the rest of a session to narrow in on anything potentially lewd that happens, that does not magically mean a game is 100% nothing but people jerking eachother off and not getting anything done except RotJR that one time, but best not to make them spill any more spaghetti over it.

You're taking things blown out of proportion for sake of memery and taking it at face value, then judging people based on that. Way to go.

>>52016867
I've tried gamefinder threads and continue to try there. Most games are extremely flaky or horrendously run. The best one I had was a L5R game that ran for about six months before the GM committed suicide and the group drifted apart.

>>52016856
I would except for the Dragonborn's stars. They're wrong on so many levels and don't fit the theme of the colors at all. I still may give it a look.

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Friends are starting our first quest and I'm here to ask if this sheet is together alright

>>52016935

JESUS FUCK DUDE

...I've got nothing on that.

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>>52016954
>those physical scores
>13 Cha???
>not even an unchained monk

>>52016913
>You're taking things blown out of proportion for sake of memery and taking it at face value, then judging people based on that. Way to go.
I am speaking from experience of games that have ground to halts due to 'lewdness'.

I have had two games with this occur. One where two players wanted to go dress shopping and took up a two hour experience of the two players describing dressed while the rest of the party waited around. It was a party of 4 so they formed a full half the party. I had no interest in dresses and neither did my character. This was the beginning of that game going down hill and more situations like this started happening until I left because the actual story never seemed ready to occur.

The other was when the game somehow became full ERP. It wasn't even advertised as such. I don't know if the GM and the other players talked about it in private beforehand but it was like someone flipped a switch. After two sessions of it I excused myself from the campaign because it didn't seem like it would be letting up any time soon.

>>52016954
>monk
>9 con
>no weapon finesse with that 14 dex

That's a dead man walking, son.

>>52016610
>Bonus equal to 1/3 or 1/4 level would be better.
No, that would be absolutely terrible design for an ability that is supposed to be available starting from level one. Regardless of whether the bonus should scale or not, it should be big enough to be meaningful at the level you take the ability, not two levels after the campaign is over.

>>52016737
What did the players not want to deal with?
Did you throw a kender community at them?

>>52016954
>character name Jason
>player name Fxy

How do you even pronounce Fxy?

>>52016853
I don't think you'll find a /pfg/ game that doesn't allow a certain amount of lewd but neither the recently posted CotCT or WotR games are putting an emphasis on it.

In general, a lot of games open to "lewd" really are really just saying "yeah, there's probably going to be some butts here and there but it's still cleaner than Game of Thrones."

>>52016954
Hoo boy, okay let's go through this in order
>8 strength and 9 con
>Haven't calculated Touch AC, Flat Footed AC, CMB, CMD
>No Skill Ranks
>Somehow have 5 HP when your Starting HP is 8 and you have a -1 Con Mod
>Haven't listed attack bonus or name of weapon, also weapon range is __
>Literally only carrying a Quarterstaff, no clothes, no food, no equipment, nothing
>Jason is, indeed, not a great roleplay name

>>52017000
>the no game goes past level 6 meme

+2 at level 4 is a significant bump.

Or maybe just have it literally give a bonus equivalent to skill focus.

>>52017000
It was also suggested to make them +2 initially, and then scaling up from there. So it is still useful at level 1.

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>>52016992
>I'm TOTALLY taking it from observations in the thread about games and attitudes
>but my personal experiences dictate everyone else's experiences
>other people's experiences or enjoyment need not apply

okay, does that mean that all groups that use voice will just openly discuss how to make the party paladin fall while crunching on fun-size bags of doritos because "push to talk is for losers"?

>>52017036
Using the word "lewd" itself is what makes me wary. "Lewd" does not summon up the idea of mature content being handled in a mature manner. It summons up the image of people trying to act like they're in an anime with "falling so my hand lands on her breast" sort of shenanigans. Maybe I just have autism but if people used "Mature content" rather than "lewds" I would be a lot less wary of games.

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>>52016834

here's a picture of the green text form the session prior to last.

>>52017044
>>52017052
Then I guess Glibness is the most overpowered spell ever. +6 to a single skill in exchange of a class ability is a complete non-issue regardless of whether it comes online at level 20 or at level 1.

What weapons would you recommend for a pre-made non-optimised rogue dwarf with two weapon feat?

>>52017082
Bro, Glibness is kinda fucking bullshit.

>>52017059
My poor experiences color my view of the practice darkly, yes. Like I said before, this may be just a personal issue, but I have never seen it handled in a manner that didn't feel like a bad experience to play across.

I'm not going to ignore all my personal experience in my views of the practice.

>>52017059
Your words are hard to back up when you spout about no experience, then when confronted with experience, immediately backpedal to "subjective experiences", anon.
>>52017071
I said exactly this earlier in the thread.
Lewd implies frivolous, childish t&a. Don't be surprised when you advertise a game as featuring such, and people judge it on that description.

>>52017088

Probably ye olde standby, the shortsword.

>>52017082
Glibness is fucking broken bruh.

>+6 to a single skill in exchange of a class ability is a complete non-issue regardless
+6 to three skills at level 1 fuck over balance, yes. Particularly opposed skills like Bluff, Stealth, Perception, Sense Motive, etc.

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Here's the other guy's sheet
>>52016982
GM said keep it simple with the core classes
Should I get rid of CHA and balance those points back into STR and CON
>>52017043
GM told me nothing about food or clothes
Also didn't know how to calculate those ACs

>>52016829
Hmm, I understand, but doesn't that dilute experiences with pcs?

>>52017059
So what, experiences don't matter at this point? Shit man I don't even know what you're trying to say.

>>52017133
>GM said keep it simple with the core classes

Ditch the GM or tell him to use some other system. Core-only Pathfinder is terrible.

>>52016954
There has to be SOMEONE with experience with Pathfinder in your group right? Who the fuck let you dip into negatives on Str and Con? Especially on a MONK. What the hell is this.

>>52016610
That's shit. Complete shit. Especially due to rounding down.
>You get +1 until level 8 when it becomes +2! YAY!

You'd have to be completely retarded to take this for anything other than "lol I am diplomancer I take all the +1s I have +45.... but only +2 of it comes from this class ability."

>>52016684
You could just have ignored it, but loudly proclaiming that you're ignoring it and 'why' makes you a pretentious asshole yes.

Which is the best bow for a high Str switch-hitter.

>>52017019
No.
I wrote in a northern fastness that consisted of a community of Mandino's, the Mandingo version of the African Heroic Child legend, taken to it's logical conclusion. So it's a city of 8' tall African ubermenschen, each born to be a hero and destroy some Great Evil.
I'm black, I think you can put it together.

>>52017025
... fucksey?

I mae this guess, but it's probably some complete bullshit the writer never even thought of pronouncing, like most of those 'spechul pronouns' some assholes use.

>>52017209
Is there even any competition beyond composite longbow?

>>52017185
>You'd have to be completely retarded to take this for anything other than "lol I am diplomancer I take all the +1s I have +45.... but only +2 of it comes from this class ability."
Heck 1/2 level would be fine, but 1/2 level to 3 skills is a bit strong.

>>52017138
Our GM has us using milestone leveling. We've each got two characters (Kineticist/Fighter, Bloodrager/Alchemist, Rogue/Mesmerist, Sorcerer/Investigator and my Slayer/New Inquisitor) and whenever we set off on a mission we each pick one.

>>52017103
>>52017161
A bad experience with something does not automatically make ALL EVERYTHING be shit. We're right back to the broad strokes shit.

>>52017107
I told you that most of the shitposting in the thread was ignoring everything in favor of focusing on the lewd because it's easier to meme, I never said you had "no experience" with it. It's almost like there's more than two people in this conversation.

>>52017178
>>52017180
Nope, we're all going in blind. The GM and the 3-4 PCs.

>>52017231
I'd be more concerned about players using a quick dip for skill boosts.
>>52017251
I mean developing the characters as characters and their place in the setting.

>>52017256
>A bad experience with something does not automatically make ALL EVERYTHING be shit. We're right back to the broad strokes shit.
I have never had a good experience with it. It colors my view of it darkly.

>>52017133
Core monk is garbage, it has no use for charisma and Int isn't totally necessary for it to function. If you cannot get dex to damage you WILL need at least a positive Str mod. Something along the lines of Dex > Con > Str=Wis >Int >>>>>>>>>>> Cha if you're going the weapon finesse route, otherwise flip Str and Dex.

>>52017256
>It's almost like there's more than two people in this conversation.
Yes, except you are the only one defending how /pfg/ games are routinely advertised, whilst there is 2+ people calling them, and you, out as being either poorly advertised or badly presented, regardless of what the DM's intent is.
You could also say not every PFS game is a shitheap, by your logic.

>>52017274
Oh. No, we've got extensive RP sessions to develop characters outside of play, and we'll often flip between the two.

>>52017262
>Nope, we're all going in blind. The GM and the 3-4 PCs.

Then switch to some other system before it's too late. Pathfinder ruins people who would otherwise be decent players.

>>52017327
>Then switch to some other system before it's too late. Pathfinder ruins people who would otherwise be decent players.

Someone in the group suggested Pathfinder because it would be the easiest to learn. Should we just go 5e then?

>>52017311
You are demonstrably wrong about there only being one person on the other side of this argument.

>>52017361
5e is easier. 4e is even easier.

>>52017394
So 4e is good if everyone is going in blind?

>>52017361
They were lying, or, if you really are all new, more likely lied TO.

Pathfinder requires ridiculous levels of system mastery to NOT fuck up, and the worst balance is in the core book.

5e IS a lot easier to learn, and there are many, many other systems out there. I've been playing unchained heroes quite a bit, but if you don't mind obtuse revamped AD&D there's even the old edition of Hackmaster.

>>52017361
Pathfinder is messy, complicated system full of trap options. Anyone who says it's easy to learn is either ignorant or lying with malicious intent. 5e wouldn't be my first suggestion(at this point, I'm not entirely certain what would be - Runequest, maybe?), but it's definitely MUCH better than Pathfinder for newbies.

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I'm about to start making Aisha's character sheet, but I've got two questions for the thread first.

1) Is Myth-Weavers stable nowadays? Trustworthy? Am I going to get BTFO by rebuilding her on there?

2) What paladin archetype gives more smiting? Or similar weapon enhancements?

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>>52017311
I chimed in and said the shitposting in the thread is usually blown out of proportion, and that everything is not automatically shit because you had a bad experience. I never explicitly said "/pfg/ games are 100% okay". Hell, I'll take your bait. Not every game in PFS is a shitheap, because it's totally possible to find a group of people in it that are great fun to play with.

>>52017439
You can save your sheets in json format and then re-up it in case this happens again

>>52017439
Oath of Vengeance lets you get more Smite, but she'd have to be Vengeful as Fuck.

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>>52017361
Most of us ended up here because people in our lives said the same thing.

Thing is, if you're cripplingly autistic, the numbercrunching and sheer research-factor of trying to make any character that doesn't suck every salty donkey ball across the globe despite not being a full Tier 1 caster or at least an Oracle if Tier 2 is what keeps us addicted.

If you don't know what I meant by tiers 1/2, GOOD. RUN WHILE YOU STILL CAN. "go play something else" is neither an insult nor a dismissive or derogatory comment when coming from any one of us.

>>52017482
>the numbercrunching and sheer research-factor of trying to make any character that doesn't suck every salty donkey ball across the globe despite not being a full Tier 1 caster or at least an Oracle if Tier 2 is what keeps us addicted.
This.
People do not PLAY the game, but theorize over possible numbers and what they can create.
It's why these threads are pretty sad.

>>52017424
>>52017425
>>52017482
Why do I play Pathfinder again? Why can't I get away?

>>52016532

Zoroastrianism would be dope, a pure spiritual god with an evil material god dual aspect, hill fires and dogs as your favored animal.

>>52017439
Paladin? Are you dropping Avowed?

>>52017519
You were born in it. Molded by it.

>>52017518
I play.

Heck, I'm playing an Incanter from 1-20 with no specializations.

What's the essential equipment, weapons aside, for any professional adventurer?

>>52017519
Too much time invested to justify just dropping it

>by RAW, Druids can't transform into a Tyrannosaurus

I've never been so upset over something like this.

>>52017535
Only if I can find enough smiting to be fun

Avowed is kind of like always smiting since I can apply fun effects with it, so I'm tempted to use it, it also just generally synergizes better.

But... smiting...

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>>52017519
>>52017518

So are there any prestige classes good enough mechanically, or hell, unique enough thematically to warrant looking into?

B-But I'm playing an on-going campaign right now.

...And I play PFS and have fun with my group.

>>52017549
You are one of the few.
>>52017519
Because you cling to what is familiar like a child clutching to it's mother's tit.
>>52017560
Any of the gear kits for the classes.
Sunrods, antitoxin, something to dig with, a saw of some sort, a backup knife, cold iron gauntlet.

>>52017608

I love the Duelist and Landsknecht!

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>tfw playing a total DILF and a Silver Dragon gets all the moist over him being a good father.
Feels good man. Nymphs, Queens, Teenagers with crushes, Dragons, the man is going to drown in pussy as it stands.

>>52017566
>muh suck cost phallussy
There is no such thing where game systems and books are concerned.

>>52017608
Paths of the Righteous has some decent prestige classes I think.

>>52017570
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/druid/archetypes/paizo-druid-archetypes/saurian-shaman/

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>>52016599
>mfw so close to seeing just HOW me and the GM's plan(s) finally pan out
>like, possibly a session or two, maybe three
>mfw finally having stuff to take up my next few feats/discoveries as well

I still have regrets, but looking to the future always showers me with potential. I can't WAIT for when I have to convince our summoner to not kill my newborn daughter!

>>52017608
Currently playing a few levels of Student of War and enjoying it immensely. I like to think it would be as fun without Knowledge Devotion but that's probably a lie.

>>52017641
I believe the problem lies with the Tyrannosaurus being too large for Beast Shape.

>>52017633
>brings up books
>when TIME was mentioned

>>52017641
Tyrannosaurus is Gargantuan, Druids can only go up to Huge. Which is why I said by RAW, not anything to do with levels.

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Dragon Game Session (I forgot) Green Text!

> Session starts off where the last session ended, inside of a tavern wrecked by the world's fattest secret agent.
>They discuss their plan of entry, while peering over maps that are far too old to be of any use. (Read Cheliax and Andoran were still part of Taldor.)
>Meanwhile the littlest Telegram messanger that could told them that their supplied gear would be at the Oasis exit of the Demense. The gear in question is about two weeks of rations, courtiers clothes for all of them. A wagon, a driver for the wagon, And Two Dire Goats. They're like regular goats, but dire.
>They go up to see their stuff, The wagon ain't one of your namby pamby canvas covered wagons like a plebian. They're the Queen's Champions! They get a veritable limousine. A box wagon, completely enclosed, Thick glass windows to the outside with wooden shutters. On the inside you've got fold down bunk beds, A pillowed floor, and in the center you have ye olde Demesneian Kotatsu.
>The Driver is pic related.
>They are then informed that they're all under dressed. They start flittering through the fancy clothes before the driver corrects them. The solstice was a week ago. its still the dead of winter in Taldor.
>The party moves on, checking through their gear and exploring the features of their super wagon, when they pull up to a small hamlet, which is supposedly the first stop for all travelers from the demense.
>They get info from the village elder that The RED DRAGON's Death is a bit more chaotic than was let on to be. It ravaged the land for three weeks only to be put down by a band led by Sir Daubany, Dame Belladona, and Sir [So unremarkable I cant remember.] aided by knights sent by Princess Celisse's father.
>The day the beast was killed, 500 or so letters were sent to nobility of all ranks with the exact location, of The Red Dragon's Lair and his hoard.
>The Party decides that the capital is the best place to be for more info.

>>52017636
The fuck is up with Crimson Templar? Vital Strike prereq, but built for sneak attacking?

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>going to play Pathfinder for the first time in a couple of weeks
>going with Slyph druid
>no clue what their deal is beyond just air planetouched faggots who are curious about everyone but autistic about each other

What do I need to do to prep for roleplay, /tg/?

>>52017738

Embrace autism

>>52017699
>They're like regular goats, but dire.
Are they named Tanngrisnir and Tanngnjóstr?

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>>52017699

>>52017710
Sneak attack actually stacks with vital strike, because sneak attacks don't take an action since they're a result of an enemy disability.

So uh

Anyone got some good trait ideas for a Ratgirl that also happens to be a Warlord that stabs people with a spear

>>52017789
More of why the fuck would you make a sneak attacker waste a feat on Vital Strike?

Help me figure out how to roleplay my shitty character, /PFG/
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1131623

His story is that he was an impoverished street child that stole his way to buying a set of adventuring gear and training, but after his trainer became too drunk to tell his student from a sexy, sexy, monster , he killed the trainer in a panic and fled out of fear of being executed for murder.

Since then he sidled up on a caravan as a guard where he meets the rest of the party.

Help me develop his personality.

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>>52017756

>>52017699

This session is titled. "Court Intrigue! And actually trying to get towards it!"

>>52017797
Bloodthirsty. +2 to crit confirms.

Talented. Perform is a class skill, give her "Storytelling".

Beastkin, speak with rats everyday.

Child of the streets, use slight of hand to steal apples.

>>52017789
Just because they stack doesn't mean they're good together.

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>>52017821

>>52017803
It looks like you're supposed to go into Crimson Templar from Slayer or some shit since their shit stacks. Ragathiel's kind of a fucked up Lawful Good god though, like Iomedae without the pretense. Half-devil, half-elemental god, came out an angel, has an obedience of murdering uglies.

>>52017847
Hmm, Beastkin doesn't work with the background, nor does child, but Talented perform is a decent fun one

>>52017878
Feints?

Feint as a Move, VS/Sneak with the Standard?

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>ywn get a chance to seduce the Storm Tyrant and take his huge falcata to the hilt
JUST

If a class feature refers to adding "half your level" to something, does that refer to class level, or is it only class level if it explicitly mentions class level?

>>52017958
It's supposed to be class level unless it's referring to character level.

>>52017958
It refers to class level.

>>52017908
>>52017847
>>52017797
i suppose i'm just looking for traits that would fit her as being from a 'tucker's kobolds'

>>52017994
accidentally sent too early, but she's supposed to be a ratfolk from a tucker's kobolds style society, which is why she's a warlord

>>52017958
Any time a class feature talks about levels, it's CLASS level unless otherwise specified.

>>52017810
Prides themselves on self sufficiency almost to the point of greed, trust issues would be a very big thing, others exist to be used for their strengths and cast off before they try to take what you have away.
Would be at home at scavenging and doing a lot with not much, and depending on personality, may be entirely oout for themselves, or once the money starts coming in, will look out for the underdog because he knows well what kind of struggle that is.
Despite what some of the people on this site say, suffering creates empathy for others more than it does not.

>>52018086
>Despite what some of the people on this site say, suffering creates empathy for others more than it does not.

You're good people.

>>52017909
Incredibly inferior to full attacking, sneak attack can apply to all attacks done right.

>Rory attempts a Perform (Dance) check
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5oCLKFbPwA

>>52018108
I was one of those people that learned empathy via the cruelty of others, anon, and most of the people I know are in the same boat.
There are exceptions, tho, one of them was a close friend, and I pity him for the bitterness he carries.
>>52018136
Also depends on you being able to pull it off.
Feint means you don't need to rely on flanking or stealth checks, and I believe feints supersede the rule some creatures have about being unable to be flanked.

>>52018136
Yes, I am aware.

Doesn't mean it's not an option that paizo could have intended.

>>52018086
This sounds like a good start, thanks anon, I can work with this!
Any other tips to provide?

>>52018151
>traps
>wolves
>bara
>vampires
>fuckable dragons

Fuck this game is getting insufferable.

Who's the most interesting character posted so far?

>>52018358
>Memec@ kill ever since Avowed nerfs announced
>No revised version in sight due to radio silence

Why live.

>>52018396
Memec@?

>>52018246
>>52018246
Realize you have a VERY noncooperative type, and work on not allowing your pc to become an issue.
The major arc of growth for your dude would be learning that yes, people can be trusted, and yes, there is more to live than surviving from day to day. You may want to talk to the DM about putting situations in front of you in order to facilitate character growth.
You have a classic distrustful orphan with a chip on the shoulder and a Dark Past Haunting, so play to type for no more than a month of games, then try to segue towards something more group positive.

>>52017915
So that's what the faggot looks like? I guess It'll be fun when my party kills kim, saws off his head, and then explode it in front of his army.

Also, I heard that originally he was just some Fighter schmuck, and that my GM is going to change it to make him an Initiator

If he does so, how hard should we expect to have our shit pushed in? Party is one full initiator, a Bard who has feated into PoW, an Investigator who has feated into PoW, and a Sphere Inquisitor.

>>52018402
Someone made a shitpost about if making a masochistic, kyton-touched cat that fights by channeling is hardy body was going too far. They concluded the answer was "no", but Avowed nerfs meant the rest of it fell flat.

RIP Con to attack/damage.

>>52018454
>expecting me to give you spoilers
He was a fighter 6 slapped on a storm giant. For you though he's going to be an OD/ZS Warder. Prepare for the Zenith Strikes boi.

>>52018178
>Doesn't mean it's not an option that paizo could have intended.
True, but still shit. Paizo does a lot of retarded crap, like the Kineticist.

>>52017394
>>52017417
4e isn't even remotely similar to PF and 5e.

>>52018505
I look forward to it. Our teamwork is peerless, Our strategies hilarious, and our DM crazy.

He got this brah

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>mfw got inspiration for Dragons 2 character concept
>mfw I'm actually writing it down and everything!

Character theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZG1aDo20zQ

>>52018598
I wasn't arguing otherwise.

Just that it was possibly the intent.

Or fuck it, maybe they just fucking forgot that sneak can hit multiple times a round.

Wouldn't surprise me.

>SotJR begins
>DM needs to stall the group in the glassworks so the others can catch up
>A wild Shayliss appears
>Corwin and Seht commence the second spitroast
>Casimir and Valeriya say fuck it and start going at it in the corner
>/pfg/ loses its fucking mind

>>52018665
i have yet to care.

I just want to play Hell's Vengance again

its been like 3 weeks

I haven't played pathfinder in like 3 weeks

KILL
ME

>>52018665
Intriguing

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>>52018665
>MFW

>>52018680
Going cold-turkey may FEEL bad, but it's a far safer and healthier alternative than methadone or replacing your addiction with a born-again one to the jesii.

Keep with it, anon. You can do this. Remember how much you HATE this system, how you loathe its every shred.

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Quick Questions about Unchained monks.
This is the first time I am playing as one and i was wondering if I get to use the bonus attack from flurry of blows or do i need to spend a ki point in order to do so

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>>52018856

>mfw I miss Pathfinder for three weeks
>mfw I don't care

>>52018858
Flurry of Blows is just an extra attack on a full round. You can also spend a ki point as a swift to get another extra attack.

>>52018870
>tfw my DM finally got some sense into his brain and moved us to 5e
bless

>>52018856
i need it anon

I have to punish myself.

I NEED IT

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>>52018882
What's wrong anon, are all the interesting and fun character options too much for your agorophobia, so you have to restrict yourself to just the basics?

>>52018882
I finally convinced my DM to give 5e a try recently and he loved our test session with it. He was saying that the statblocks were way easier on him and he had more to do with enemies.

/5eg/ is pretty fucking boring though. Putting aside divisive waifu posting here, Golarion, epileptic mess that it is, is just way more interesting than any of the DnD settings and Pathfinder gets regular enough content to always have topics. I don't think /5eg/ does /5eg/ games anyways.

>>52018935
more like i don't really enjoy the big numbers in PF nor the power levels that the PCs can reach

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>>52018940
>Golarion, epileptic mess that it is, is just way more interesting than any of the DnD settings

>Golarion better than Dark Sun
>Golarion better than Eberron
>Golarion better than Planescape
>Golarion better than Spelljammer

You serious?

>>52018980
More interesting =/= better, anon

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>>52019010
>Golarion more interesting than Dark Sun
>Golarion more interesting than Eberron
>Golarion more interesting than Planescape
>Golarion more interesting than Spelljammer

You still ain't making a lick of sense, son.

>>52018649
Every time I think I've settled on something for Dragons 2 I just end up wishing I was playing my Dragons 1 app instead.

>>52018980
I'm not familiar with every setting so I guess I shouldn't have said it the way I did, but most of the DnD settings, including Eberron and Planescape from the list give you a neat premise but don't actually take it anywhere and end up shallow when you take a close look. Both just end up playing out similarly to Grayhawk with the labels changed. The regions in each setting blur together in culture and no single place ever gets very well developed.

Dragon DM! Dragon DM! Are the Daoine Sidhe allowed?

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>>52018980
>>52019028
It has a lot more tropes and varied things going on on the same planet in a way that lets you do pretty much whatever you feel like.

However, neither my, nor your, nor his opinion on these settings are a fact, so don't tout it like it is, motherfuck.

>>52019051
>most of the DnD settings, including Eberron and Planescape from the list give you a neat premise but don't actually take it anywhere and end up shallow when you take a close look

You're describing Golarion.

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>>52019051
>Eberron and Planescape from the list give you a neat premise but don't actually take it anywhere and end up shallow when you take a close look.

>Eberron
>Shallow on inspection

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>>52019051
>Both just end up playing out similarly to Grayhawk with the labels changed. The regions in each setting blur together in culture and no single place ever gets very well developed.

>This applies to Dark Sun, Eberron, Planescape, and Spelljammer

>BUT IT DOESN'T APPLY TO GOLARION

You're a barrel of laughs, you know that?

>>52019051
You really shouldn't have.

Golarion's got major problems with geopolitics. I don't mean the kind you can make campaigns out of, but the kind that make it none of the locations make any fucking sense. Technological and economic spreads are completely disjointed, climates are sometimes nearly as fucked up, and cultures have more differences between immediate neighbors than ACROSS THE FUCKING PLANETS (and I mean planets). Golarion is a kitchen-sink setting that went through the trash-compactor.

Planescape seems very odd, but within its own system/logic/fluff it makes sense. It may not be realistic but it's a setting with fucking magic and gods, so realism was supposed to have flown out the window from the start. It's got a strong sense of "there's always a bigger guy", but with the ability to become one of them. Sure not everything makes perfect sense, but compared to Golarion? All of planescape's issues together are only on the level of one or two kingdoms in golarion, in terms of but-this-doesnt-work disbelief-destroyers.

Dark Sun is pretty fucking solid, but it was a different beast to handle, and the conversion to a d20 system that most people use on it hurt it quite a bit. Dark Sun was the first ever instance of "you should start at level 3, not 1, and have a backup character" as actual campaign rules. The fluff and use of magic and psionics was woven fairly deeply into the setting, and worked. It worked damn well. It was also slanted towards survival; a lot of simple utility spells you'd expect wizards and clerics to play with were, in AD&D's Dark Sun, stunted or even nonfunctional. Create Food and Water? NO CAMPING FEASTS FOR YOU! Traps, survival skills, ingenuity were all useful; you were a desert critter, in a desert full of shit that literally evolved reality-bending mind-powers as a basic survival trait because of the hellish conditions there.

Golarion's better than Krynn, though, if more dysfunctional

>>52019163
How bad could Krynn be?

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>>52019175
This bad.

>>52019219

Delete this

>>52019044
Reapply with it then?

>>52019219
And here I thought I'd forgotten.

>>52019219
DELET THIS

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>>52019175
Oh there's plenty.

But I'll give you a simple, single appetizer that should give you an idea of just how deep the rabbithole of shit can go...

K
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>>52019241

>>52019028
I never said the statement was true. I'd say it IS possible that the anon probably finds the DISCUSSIONS surrounding them to be far more interesting.