Age of Sigmar General /AoSG/

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What do you think about the new way ogres are going to look

>>51899809
That's Bloodbowl faggot. Seperated universe.

>>51899809
They are replacing the Mongol inspiration with... Polish?

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I'm gonna ask about some lewd draw with Alerielle and Saint Celestine. Any specific requests or should I just ask for generic sfw content so we can post it without getting banned

>>51899869
Oh, and I'm gonna ask about it on /d/ so I hope we will not see any feminine dicks

What brush size is best for detailing lines on skin?

What brush kind?

I got some tiny brushes, been extremely difficult, there aren't really many bristles so its tough to get anything other than a globby line that goes everywhere.

>>51899836
>implying GW will not AoSing BB universe

>>51899809
I long for the lantern-jawed ogres of editions past.

>>51899892
such pathetic bait. were you grinning like an idiot when you typed that thinking you would annoy someone? here's your you. go play on the highway now please.

>>51900012
This is exactly the response he wanted you idiot. Just ignore them.

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>>51900012
I'm not baiting Anon - I truly hope that GW will alternate BB universum somehow with new edition. I'm not talking about copy-paste The End Times but what about smuggling some lesser themes? I don't believe that GW will leave it as the last Old World memento

How many Daemonettes, Seekers, Fiends, Skeleton Warriors and Clanrats should be taken per unit?

>>51899809
That's just how Ogres used to look before Ogre Kingdoms.

>>51900115
I'm running 20 clanrats with spears in 1000pts games. I think it's also a maximum for blades clanrats if you want to reach something with most of them

>>51900115
I always like to at least double up.

Daemonettes - 20-30
Seekers - 5-10 depending on what you want them to hit.
Fiends - 3 otherwise they just don't do much.
Skeleton Warriors - 20 w/ Swords, 30 w/ Spears.
Clanrats - 20 w/ Swords, 30-40 w/ Spears.

>>51900256
>Fiends - 3 otherwise they just don't do much.

That's the minimum amount.

>>51900413
its age of sigmar not 40k and theyre 60points for a single model. Any other Ogre equivalent just rips trough them aswell sadly

>>51900526
Oh, I remembered that 3 was the minimum amount in AoS a well. I was probably thinking of something else.

>>51899881
No, don't ask on /d/. Go with some generic thicc scissoring

>>51900115
Old ogres had larger noses and prominent tusks. They were very gnarled and expressive. This new fellow seems a bit flat, in comparison.

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So, what are you guys working on this fine day?

I just built these Liberators with waraxes. Had to get them out of my system, even if I doubt I will ever need dual weapon Liberators.

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Also, a very early WiP of a stormcast hero. His weapons are blatantly taken from a retiarius-type gladiator.

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>>51900784
I've basecoated 20 Blood Warriors and 6 Juggernaut riders and based 40 Reavers, I'm done for this day. Going to eat now and then relax on my couch.

>>51900827
Beastmaster Anon, is that you?

>Battletomes for each GA

>Order has Stormcast, Sylvaneth, Seraphon and Fyreslayers
>Chaos has Khornebound, Everchosen, Disciples of Tzeentch, Skaven Pestilens
>Destruction has Ironjawz, Bonesplittaz and Beastclaw Raiders which doesn't show up in the GW website on the Battletome filter

>Destruction only has Flesh-eater Court
Why is this allowed?

>>51900939
>Destruction only has Flesh-eater Court

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Lastly the first batch of Palladors and the Lord-Aquilor.
I am debating right now whether to work on the hero some more or do the second batch of Palladors, who'd need some conversions to distract from their monopose shittery.

>>51900841
Love the kitbashed goreaxe in the first row.
Keine Ruhe für die Verdammten, Anon.

>>51900884
It is. Took a long while to get going, huh?

>>51900574
The GHB, the Warscroll Compendium and the Warscroll builder website all have them as minimum 1.

>>51900827
n o w l o o k a t t h i s n e t
Gorgeous model. Is the net starched or floating freely? You should check out Duncan's converted 'freeguild guard'. They're more Greek than Roman but still match your theme pretty closely.

>>51900827
Well, I was waiting for you - good job :3

>>51901010
Well, shit. Now I won't be able to unhear that when looking at this model.
The net is as reinforced as I could make it given the flimsyness of the material. It's roughly as hard as thin plasticard.

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>tfw too intelligent for age of shitmar
this fucking cancer needs to die

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Plz Anons, don't reply this shit above me. Just don't feed him, let him go back to /40kg/

>>51901010
If you want to be a Stormcast number one, you have to chase a Chaos Lord on the run!

>>51901304
You literally just replies to him you stupid fuck.

What, just because he doesn't get a "you" means he's not enjoying your post?

Come on...

>>51901392
It's all about the (you), anon.

>>51901392
(You)s are like a currency.

It's like they're trying to get it on the bingo card.

>>51901482
We should add a note in OP post about not replying to and about trolls like this

>>51901505
>>>51901482
>not replying to trolls
>on 4chan
Yeah...

>>51901521
Welp, not long ago aosg was one of the best general threads. We should keep it like this - especially we

>>51901547
The thing aosg needs to get better at spotting the trolls from the non trolls.

There are so many times where someone comes in with a question or suggestion for people to just bombard them with "go back to 40k" or "bingo card!!!" or some other shit like that.

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what u famms think of this list?:

trying to keep it khorne

>>51900115
>>51900140
I'm gonna try units of 10 soon, just to hit the minimum and max my Skryre trinkets. Just use them purely as fodder.

Units of 20 have proven remarkably resilient in my small games so far. Only when combined with the warlord and mythic shield. You add +1 against DMG 1 weapons so they've got a decent save when fighting other core troops. They need a general baby sitting them though

When will Ironjawz get some sort of vehicle or artillery? Their range is so small. They need some more shit.

>>51899756
What cool units could they give slaanesh in case they re-boot it like the disciples of tzeentch?

Id love to see a Hit and Run Ranged Unit.

Also a new models for "The Masque" with her holding a Beatiful Mask in front of her disgutingly wretched daemon face or something like that would be rad AF.

how do I build an Everchosen army?

>>51901715
Buy archaon, buy varanguard

>>51900827

Nice.

Might I suggest an errant questor with the Hoarfrost blade to represent the debilitating effects of the net?

>>51901714

i think they are going to mix dark elves with slaanesh.

they will be the mortal part and the all the old daemons will be rehashed to be less fanservice and more serial killer.

slaanesh will control the realm of shadows and fight against the chaos gods (still being chaos aligned though) for trying to fuck him over.

>>51901715
Archaon, a few gaunt summoners. Then as many squads of varanguard as you can fit.

Dont use chaos knights as countsas varanguard. they use different base sizes and are just not the same size. its a major cheap copout

>>51901663
I know you have the speed from the Grinder and Thirster but other than that it's kidna slow.

Maybe add some more ranged so you can at least bombard your opponent as you run up.

>>51901701
Ironjawzs is the most Brutal Melee Army in the game to a point where you might aswell remove your units from the field the second they are in base contact with a Brute squad.

Giving them decent ranged support or (even more mobility on top of destruction ability) would make it even worse.

Then again we got Marysuecast eternals and Stormfiends in the game.

Rip anyone who still plays armies from old fantasy

>>51901663

I'd try to find a place for a war shrine and a second bloodsecrator

And if possible switch the gorefists for the -1 rend axes on the blood warriors

>>51901730
>>51901764

dont forget to play them as tzeentch alliegence so you can use destiny dice and rape everyone with archaon guarenteed 6's

>>51901766
Alright, maybe not artillery or whatever, but I'd still like to see them expand the range. There's like 6 fucking units.

>>51901766

>elf player who doesn't actually play AOS

Pure empire will poop all over ironjawz, filthy nonhuman

>>51901793

If they made brutes and ardboyz battleline as long as your general was ironjawz, it would go a long way towards making ironjawz lists more interesting

>>51901793
To add to my reply, I think it'd be nice to see them do a new model for Grimgor and the Black Orc Boss.

>>51901714
Something like demented artists would be cool. Painters who use buckets of blood and jizz, violin players who play on barbed wire, actors who have made their own faces into masks, that kind of twisted stuff.

>>51901809
I'd like to see brutez get an arbalest, and a boss option for the gore-gruntas. I'm mostly in the hobby for modelling and painting, but those seem like they'd be fun to play as well.

>>51901816

Grimgor is dead dead and megabosses *are* the new black orc boss.


What I would love are A) complete redesign of goregruntas and B) wyvern riding ironjawz unit

>>51901761
I want to see Slaanesh go towards the "cenobite" type look. Kinda like that one faction of Dark Eldar.

Lots of chains, lots of body piercings, very nightmarish.

>>51901882
Why a complete redesign of gore-gruntas? I think they look pretty cool, aesthetically.

I would like to see more mounted units, though. Like infantile maw-krushas, that are still fucking huge, or a chariot for the gore-gruntas.

>>51901701
I'd like some bare-chested orcs carrying big, unusual throwing weapons like bolas or something.
Arty doesn't really fir their style, nor do they need it.

>>51901793
Heavy armored Grots with spikes all over their bodies. Their main goal is to run towards an enemy and leap at them, impaling them with their spike armors.

>>51901870

I'm totally up for an arbalest, it would be a nice progression for ironjawz to go from having a gigantic catapult like greenskins to have an enormous fucking crossbow.

>>51901901

Sorry redesign of their rules, I love their models.

>infantile mawkrushas

Fucking

Fund it.

Ironjawz chariots sound great too.

Perhaps a brute mob with tower shields?

>>51901809
>If they made brutes and ardboyz battleline as long as your general was ironjawz, it would go a long way towards making ironjawz lists more interesting
That's what I've been saying! Nice to see it catching on.

Even if ardboys were just a standard battleline it would go a long way in fixing ironjaws.

I'm confused. Are most of the Ironjawz units not battleline? I thought they all were

>>51901701
Ironjaws are fast as shit, they don't need range.

Just take 3 weirdboyz and throw spells at stuff you dont like and can't reach.

get your warboss on a maw krusha and just go fly at whatever is annoying you.

>>51901776
The -1 axes are for the Bloodreavers, not Blood Warriors.

>>51901755
It's actually meant as a beastmaster of sorts, so I plan on using the Lord-Castellant warscroll with either Hoarfrost or Armor of Silvered Sigmarite.
Assuming I ever actually field all the Gryph-hounds I now own. 40pts per doggo is insane...

>>51901967
they are battleline as long as your entire army is ironjaws. as in even if you bring in like a giant, none of their units are battleline

>>51901777
doesn't work like that, anon.

You can bestow the TZEENTCH keyword in the HERO PHASE, not during setup. so you won't have tzeentch alleigance when the game starts.

>>51901997
I'm just getting the Battleforce, and it'll be my first time playing AOS, so I'm trying to study up on everything. How am I supposed to play my battleforce, then, since it includes an Aleguzzler Gargant?

>>51901663
drop the soul grinder, add a shrine and another bloodsecrator.

you'll thank me later.

>>51902023
that skin looks just as flat as when you first posted these.

>>51901967
ironjawz have no battleline unless your take ironjaws allegiance. and if you do that, they currently don't have any allegiance abilities.

so you can either mix in a few good meshing battleline units from destruction, or just take whatever is cheapest, for the battleline tax.

or you can just play a pick-up game with people, no points.

>>51902004
Well the battleforce wasnt designed for matched play, which uses points and battleline rules. It was designed for open play which is pretty much bring whatever you want with no points.

If you want to field the whole box you need to either a) leave out the gargant when playing matched, or b) get a couple cheap destruction battlelines like orruk boys or grots

>>51901933
Arbalests seems to encroach too much on the Stormcast style now. We already get accused of playing Stormcast Eternals II: Blackorc Boogaloo, that'd be too much.
Crude blunderbusses or gunpowder-filled javelins I could see. Or maybe even some more unusual stuff like bolas or chained hooks to drag down opponents.

>>51901995

Ah I see.

They're actually not terrible (3-4 ish) as long as you remember to activate them first and get them out of pile in range with your roll.

Also quite useful if you have some raptors nearby to shoot deep strikers.

>>51901981

That's fucking gay.

I keep having revelations about how theres an inverse relationship between how good liberators become with experience compared to how bad blood warriors become with experience.

>>51902086

I'm okay with Ironjawz going the ogre route of firearms but as I recall, Ironjawz lore is literally them seeing stormcast and saying "we can do that better"

>>51902041
>>51902004

There is a battleforce battalion that allows you to use gargant with ironjawz IIRC

>>51901626
Yup, I see it here
>>51899892
>>51900087
>>51900089

>>51902030
Everything except the silver looks pretty flat to me. Good enough for tabletop but not particularly interesting visually.

>>51902117
IIRC, warscroll battalions are still bound to the constraints of the unit type requirements.

Like if the battalion you take doesn't include any battleline units, you need to take some of those along side the battalion.

>>51901626
People are just being overly sensitive in these threads. Not really an attractive quality. The bingo card is just the worst example of this defensiveness

>>51902117
yep. and to field that battalion you still need to get your battleline requirements elsewhere. Unless the battalion grants the gargant the ironjawz keyword

>>51902144
yeah, but the skin is the worst offender right now.

>>51902165
Yup, they think the bingo card is a good way to shut down shitposters but it just makes them look just as bad. It's embarrassing. I cringe every time I see it.

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>>51899756

Where can I find the grand alliance pdf's??

>>51902281
>every thread, like clockwork
Nowhere. They dont exist.

>>51901547
this place is packed with armchair generals who get a thrill out of being assholes to anonymous strangers on the internet.

I think people just hate their own lives and their own shitty painting skills and their own failings and come here to put down people to try and make themselves feel anything but shittyness about themselves.

I'm not calling out anyone in particular but I've seen it too much for it to be an isolated thing.

>>51902330
the hobby is my only escape from my suffering as a corporate wageslave, and I am not even good at it.

please don't take that from me

>>51902289
I'm looking through the mega, I can find just about every pdf except the grand alliance ones.
There are some things listed for skaven that aren't in the compendiums by name so I want to find out what they're referring to (namely skryre acolytes)

>>51902330
Here's a protip: Look where we are and think *really* hard. Are you still surprised at people being dicks to one another? Because you really, REALLY shouldn't be.

>>51902349
>please don't take that from me
I wouldn't try to because you and me are in the same boat.

>>51902023
Some constructive criticism hopefully.

The models look good, better than some shit posted here. The skin definitely needs a wash and highlight. The crossbows need some more colors, all gold is kinda bland. Pick out the wood, color the bolt tips, etc. I think these changes would make these look much better.

>>51902372
They don't exist. I'm not being coy here. There is no digital version of the Grand Alliance stuff. If you want them, you'll need to shell out for the printed version.
Or you could just use the app or the webstore for the warscrolls. The lore in each Grand Alliance book is a laughable one-page joke.

Acolytes are Globadiers.

>>51902281
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warhammer?Nu=product.repositoryId&N=102351+3330942491&qty=12&sorting=rec&view=table&categoryId=cat440002a-flat

>>51902377
It's not about being surprised. It's about trying to make this place better. If you realize there's a problem work to fix it, don't join in.

>>51902023
>Washes in the pic
>pretends not to know what they are.

Stop trolling.

>>51902281
>>51902372
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>51902425
>he wants to make 4chan better
But why? It's fine the way it is and I wouldn't want it any other way.
If you need a hugbox, there are plenty of places out there that cater to that.

lol more liek age of bad gamemar

>>51902486
>stop trying to make me feel bad about being an asshole to strangers on the internet. I need to be an asshole without consequences to strangers on the internet to make me feel anything but shittyness about my own pathetic life.

do you want sympathy for your point of view?

you won't get it from me.

ETERNAL STORMCAST > Your Dudes.

>>51902525
>do you want sympathy for your point of view?
Not at all. I want you to be exactly like you are right now. The same anonymous asshole I am. That's enough.

>>51902492
At least, you tried.

>>51902606
>my entire argument rides on the presupposition that everyone on this site is an asshole thereby excusing my own poor treatment of others.

that's a really shitty weak argument.

>>51902636
You must be an asshole, otherwise you wouldn't be here.

I'm hoping to start a Dark Elf army. Can anyone please recommend what to build up from? I'm hoping to start games with friends who are lucky enough to have "Start Collecting" boxes for their armies.

I'm looking for an airbrushable winter color scheme for Sylvaneth. I'm looking for a sort of dead tree look, anyone got any ideas?

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>>51902656

>>51902162

Yes but the effect is opposite: if a warscroll battalion is marked as Ironjawz, all units within become Ironjawz for the purpose of allegiance.

This is how the Stormcast+Sylvaneth battalion can be used in a Sylvaneth allegiance army

>>51902709
Get a bunch of basic troops. Darkshards, Dreadspears or Bleakswords. Dreadspears would be my preferred choice.

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>>51902709

either of these. The blood cult is probably better on the table but pick the one with models you like the look of most.

Is it possible to make a semi decent Sylvaneth army without just filling it with Kurnoth hunters with bows?

>>51902866
Yes. Fill it with Spirits of Durthu instead.

>>51902807
>>51902842
Thank you both. I'll look into these now

>>51902866

Sure, sylvaneth are still plenty good in a casual setting without shooty kurnoth spam

Are there any rumors of a Slannesh specific warrior unit like the blightkings or bloodbound?

>>51903214
We don't even know what will happen to Slaanesh itself.

>>51903214
Slaanesh is dead, anon

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>>51903272
>>51903230
>mfw Slaanesh is back with start collecting and new models

>you now realize that all of the official AoS art doesn't show gore

>>51903549
Slaanesh is dead, anon. Blame the latest SJW craze for that.

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>>51903556
I think they are pretty death tho

>>51903556
?

The Flesh eater BT has them eating Orges. There are a lot of gorey corpses in the picture.

>>51903569
I'm not even a fan of Slaanesh but I'm okay with bigger models variety

>>51903570
Guess I was wrong

thank you based FEC

>>51903549
>Slaanesh as a demure and modest aelven goddess

>>51903602
I like the fact that AoS is not le edgy grimdark and gore meme like 40k. It would be boring

>>51903584
>Seraphon will never have Babes

>>51900140
are spears better then swords for clanrats?

>>51903639
swords have a 1" reach, so your second rank will not be able to fight unless you use 20mm square bases

>>51903639
Well, if you are running bigger units like 30-40 - yes. You can reach more enemy models with your 2" spear. If you have 20 or less rats in your unit then I would pick blades.

>>51903569
I'm marking "SJW Boogeyman" off my /tg/ bingo card.

>>51903639
>>51903654
ty just bought spire of dawn so gonna build 20 sword clanrast and 20 spear ones.

>>51903664
shit replied to myself

>>51903721
>just bought spire of dawn so gonna build 20 sword clanrast and 20 spear ones
It's not like you have any other option m8 - you have only 20 spears and 20 blades in the box

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so its almost march

July 2015 AOS got released, its almost March 2017 now coming up on two years deep. When will elves get some love?

>>51903752
After grots

>>51903752
its been confirmed the weekend after the next 40k triumvirate

>>51903746
ah ok makes sense

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>>51903778
>its been confirmed the weekend after the next 40k triumvirate

this the cthulhu elves thing? was there ever anything clarifying what beyond "cthulhu"?

>>51903752
>When will elves get some love?
I have two boxes of this love, and both are called "Spire of Dawn". I know it's just re-packed IoB but Aelves have their own starter set with 27 models, new decent battalion and a lot of old neat models. What Aelves need right now is battletome IMO

>>51903836
That's awesome! I'm super happy you're getting a lot of mileage out of that repack. For a lot of guys like me (who have been playing and collecting elves since WHFB) we are itching to drop a pile of cash on some new AOS elves. I am personally excited to see what they do with the range in the new setting.

>>51903883
You got LITERAL WOOD ELVES last summer.

God are all elves players this whiny?

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>>51903883
WOOD ELVES

>>51903912
>not realizing sylvaneth aren't elves
>not knowing they don't even have Aelves keyword
>not knowing the sylvaneth lore says they hate elves and aren't elves

some kind of elaborate explanation about things trying to help you understand that will inevitably fall on deaf ears because you knew this already and are just trolling.

>>51903912
>>51903948
I see no aelf keyword here. Sylvaneths are not even elves in AoS lore

Fuck Elf players

I sure can't wait for the edgelord tourneyfag dark elves and "too high and snobby for you" asshole elves

>>51901999
This is stupid, if It worked this way you couldn't use everchosen in the EVERCHOSEN BATTALIONS

>>51903961
wait why do they HATE elves?

You'll get it when you get it. And it will be glorious and awesome when it comes. Just be patient.

and before you say BUT STORMCAST GOT A SECOND BOOK BEFORE WE GOT ONE, let me remind you that they took down the fucking Space Marine outside HQ and replaced it with a stormcast so obviously they will be the poster boys of AoS and get support.

Just be glad you're not Tomb Kings or Bretonnia.

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>>51903992

>>51903912
>God are all elves players this whiny?
>>51903979
>Fuck Elf players

you're actually making elf players look rational and friendly in comparison to this shitposting.

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>>51903912
The Sylvaneth are not Wood Elves. They have strained relationship with the Aelves in AoS.

The Tree Revenant are just a new addition to their race. They are the warrior class of the Sylvaneth. The Everqueen shaped tthem in the image of the ancient protectors of the forest from the World That Was.

The actual Wood Elves are the Wanderers (picture related). And they must redeem themselves in the eyes of the Sylvaneth.

>>51903752
NEVER

EVER

>>51903979
Oh the ironing

>>51904224
show us on the doll where the elf touched you Jimmy.

>>51904057
Are the Wanderers any good currently? Been thinking about getting on the Sigmar train and I like the Sisters of the Thorn models.

>>51904403
You won't make any Seraphon player reconsider his life choices, but they are decent enough.

>>51904670
Good enough for me. Thanks!

Ok, extra options need to have points in this game. Just take a look at Daemon Princes. You can run them without wings or with wings. With wings costs no additional cost and has no downsides. Why would you ever NOT take this? You'd be a damn fool. This also limits how you can model them since you'll always want to use wings so you'll always need to have winged models.

Unless there is a price increase and I'm just not seeing it on scrollbuilder?

>>51904932

You already paid for flying, they expect you to take it. All the AoS daemon princes pictures I've seen have wings, they just left room for the old models that don't.


Also flying is a pretty situational ability when your move is only 8", it's only some leftover models that have weird rules like that.

Most games I'd imagine it would hardly make a difference, unlike some other legacy models that can take mounts or not which is a real no brainer.

>>51904932

Models that can take upgrades like banners or musicians are priced with the assumption that you'll take them.

>>51903569
Again, considering that a Slaaneshi Chaos Lord literally RAPES A BEASTMAN in one of the AoS novels, I highly doubt this.

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>>51903556

>>51905150
You move 12 with flying.

>>51905201
What the shit?

>>51905201
It's implied and he doesn't do it. He kills the beastman for resisting his advances.

>>51905379

That's decidedly less crap

>>51901809
I feel like Ironjawz should have baseline Ardboyz as battleline. It would allow ironjawz to branch out. I wouldn't mind owning ardboyz then since they serve a better purpose. And it would allow them to move into other options for ranged with taking stuff like bonesplittaz or grots arty. A boss on boar would be cool. Maybe a way to get other heroes on wyvern equivalents?

>>51905745

Yeah I always thought of Ironjawz Waaaghs as the core of Ironjawz being followed by a bunch of normie orc gitz looking for a fight, rather than a pure orcyan race that doesn't mix with the unterorc

Do you need to have a unit in your army list for your wizard to know the spell to summon more?

>>51904388
Go back to painting your blood elves, faggot

>>51906037
this >>51904031

>>51903778
Source?

>>51905976

You have to pay for whatever you summon before the game starts, so in practice yes

>>51905976
No. You just need to have open points up to the models you'll be wanting to summon in.

>>51906262
I still hate this

>>51903667
>I'm marking "SJW Boogeyman" off my /tg/ bingo card.
*Boogeyxer

Anyone play moonclan grots? Are they worth collecting and painting now or should I wait forever for GW to do something and pick an army that they have done something with?

>>51903778
Wanna bet they'll just be repackaged scourge privateers?

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>>51906291

I could have sworn that steam punk dwarves were next in line?

>>51906347
I honestly don't give a damn until gw mentions a nurgle battletome or a skryre release.

>>51906235
>>51906291
>>51906347
He's not serious. There have been no confirms or any solid rumors. It's just that people ask here so many goddamn times "bawww where my tomb kings, where muh elves" that we've started to just feed bullshit 'leaks' in hopes to sate you for now, and also in hopes you jacksasses will shut the fuck up about it and stop asking us.

If you havent been following the threads, we aren't going to tell you what we know when it comes to future releases.

>>51906262
So you need to mark down what you will summon?

>>51906410
Like I said above, I do t care unless it involves my armies. I don't play ELVES or DWARVES or AFFRICAN SKELES, so I was just more curious than anything.

>>51906431
>seriously im not with those guys, theyre really bad, youre really cool, I was just kidding anyways, please don't hurt me.

Come on man. This guy >>51906410 doesn't know any more than anyone else anyways. Follow the rumor thread over on TGA once a day and you'll know everything everyone does.

>>51906428
No. You leave a certain amount of empty points.

Say you leave 300 points open in your army. With that, you could summon in, say, a Burning Chariot and a unit of Pink Horrors, or a Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury, or a Soulgrinder, or anything that would consume the points.

>>51906472
This is what I meant when I said above:
>>51906404

Probably not even going to bother with rumors until something concrete is shown.

>>51905641
No it's not.

It describes him putting on his gear as the beastman lays in a heap on the floor, breathing heavily.

>>51906528
So you don't need to start with any of those on the table to summon more of them?

>>51906277

I feel like there must have been a better way to do it while being balanced

Maybe if you summon a unit successfully, you can add it to an existing unit up to that units original maximum size.

If you create a new unit, you pay the point cost

Shit I don't know, summoning in any game is difficult to balance

>>51906550
Nope. You can summon pretty much whatever you want as long as the warscroll says you can

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>>51906528
>>51906550

just read the rules. Its risky to rely on anonymous internet people to learn rules from.

>>51906604
That doesn't answer my question at all though.

>>51906670
then read the rest of the rules, then the most recent FAQ. I'm sure the answer is in there and youll only need to read about 15 pages total.

The benefit will be that you can tell people you actually read it in the rules instead of having to dodge around the fact that you learned the rules from anons on the interwebs and really aren't sure you know what youre talking about. Don't be that guy.

>>51905957
Oh another fix Ironjawz need. Their command ability not being garbage. The fact it has a chance to not even go off is hot trash. I played a game today that had 5 ironjaw units nearby. I rolled a 6 and it sealed in my fate as losing that game. Does any other command ability even have the chance to not happen? Seems pretty stupid. Also the caster needs to say "Closest other Orruk unit" cause right now, he is the closest orruk unit so he will do d3 mortal wounds to himself, killing himself first.

>>51906410
>It's just that people ask here so many goddamn times "bawww where my tomb kings, where muh elves" that we've started to just feed bullshit 'leaks' in hopes to sate you for now, and also in hopes you jacksasses will shut the fuck up about it and stop asking us.

>Implying goblin sky-pirates aren't real

they are gonna be the counterpart to Steamheads rather than skryre

>>51899756

Wait slaanesh is back?

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>>51901268

I don't get how anyone can support this shit

after Bretons, Tomb Kings got squatted, GW needs to go fuck off

>>51906852

Remember the Megaboss counts as a unit within 10" of himself

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>>51903631
We'll take the other babes

>>51907264
Oh I know. I counted him. I had 3 units of brutes, himself, and a warchanter nearby. It was just entirely dumb that I had this ability that has a chance to not go off. And it's not even an ability. it's my command ability. It's whats supposed to make Orruks well... Orruks. How come the Ironjawz, the biggest and da baddest greenies around can't always Waagh properly?

>>51899756

Has that Keeper of Secrets just caught Sigmar masturbating behind that rock?

>>51907389

Sucks m8, it kinda contributes to why Gordrak is the most competitive leader option for Ironjawz since his always goes off.

>>51906670

Welcome to Age of Sigmar.

Were we're going, we don't need rules.

>>51906670
The warscroll says what wizards know the summon "X" spell

The rules say how you do your summoning.

No you don't need to field a unit.

When's the second edition of the General's Handbook due out? I'm considering rebasing one of my Fantasy armies but I'm really tentative. It would have to be a big jump forward for me to do it.

>>51907578
>The warscroll says what wizards know the summon "X" spellThe rules say how you do your summoning.No you don't need to field a unit.


there is a FAQ that says you don't need the unit on the board to summon it. I'm to lazy to look it up but I read it before and I know its there.

>>51907609

Summer I think.

It seems mostly like a points shake up with some other balancing changes.

>>51907639

So the gameplay rules will remain unchanged? I just want a more precise rule set really.

I want to like AoS as I think 28mm is a skirmish scale but they're making it hard. Do GW really think a 10 page rule set will put people off?

>>51907558
just sucks that its once per game and while can definitely dish out the hurt, is really worth 15-20 wounds of models over the megaboss on maw krusha, who can take battle brew or the talisman of protection? and even then, is the megaboss on maw krusha worth the 2 squads + hero you could take? I've generally found that maybe going to 2k the mawkrusha definite works out, but at 1k or even 1.5k, he starts to feel iffy.

>>51907655
That's what the faqs are for. No matter how precise they can make it, some people are going to still not understand and ask questions. I feel the ruleset is pretty good and the faqs have made intentions more well known.

>>51907614
I'm just saying, there didn't need to be a FAQ. People just don't read the warscroll for some reason.

>>51907686
you're right, of course. But enough people were confused about it that they did a FAQ to answer it directly.

hmm. i wonder what kind of conversion is required to make stuff for warhammer quest. i kinda wanna turn some plucky unit leaders or generic mans(maybe in a sorta-squad form?) into heroes or something. and also try to make 40k heroes to challenge the silvertower or stop the schemes of evil in hammerhal. and also how to turn things into adversaries.

>>51907662

Artifacts and command abilities really do seem to push the normal megaboss krusha over the top, especially with battlebrew

>>51907856
Battlebrew makes him a definite killer. Taking battle brew and even taking bellowing tyrant is good on the one with the riptooth since you benefit from hitting on 2's with riptooth fist. Also any -1 hit shenanigans can get negated. Also the increased range is what really helps the mawkrusha, I agree, but its still that silly stupid chance of it not working. It's something I'll probably never understand. Cause it already only lasts on your combat phase.

>>51902167
It does. It's an Ironjawz battalion, so all the units in it are Ironjawz.

Sylvaneth have something like it - it lets 'em take any Order wizard they want. You can see where this is going.

>>51908194
ok what book is this in? unless it says the gargant has the ironjawz keyword specifically, the gargant just does not gain it. it doesnt matter if the battalion is ironjaws, the gargant doesnt gain the ironjawz keyword by just being in it, again, unless it specifically says he gains it

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Alrighty boyz n' gurlz - so I got the start collecting skeleton horde and..
2 scratch built necromancers
a box of grave guard
7 extra skeletons
an extra box of black knights/hexknights
and a box of varghiests


I'm thinking of using some extra money on Mannfred on his steed/Konrad for painting fun and army flavor. Probably need some zombies and such too, gonna find an old 8E VC batallion for it and the corpse cart among other things. I'm basically going for normal grand alliance death. What's next on my list in your opinions (besides Blood Knights which are already in the work)?

>>51908194
Also that battalion is not allowed in match play until it gains points.

>>51908403
pick up three more skeletons from somewhere so you're not rocking an undersized unit for one.

>>51908454
Or use excess skele bits to make the extras. Perhaps clawing out of the earth?

How often are AOS releases? Realistically, how long until something for the Orruks (any of the three) comes out?

I'm not asking for a leak or a rumor, just an estimation based on previous patterns.

Where did the people living in the mortal realms come from?

>>51908515
Assuming the rumors/leaks are true, probably not until late Summer at the earliest. There are claims the next releases will be dorfs, elves, and/or Slaanesh by sometime in Summer.

>>51908050

To be fair, if it wasn't on chance it would easily be one of, if not the strongest command abilities in the game

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>>51908238

The battalion has the Ironjawz allegiance, thus all models in the battalion are considered Ironjawz for army building (but not in game for buffs)


It's not super intuitive I know but that's what the FAQ says, pic related

>>51908617
Ok that makes sense, but what is the name of this battalion? I cant find it anywhere. what's it called in the GHB?

>>51908643

No idea, I don't see any points values for it. It might have just been a "play out of the box" battalion for open play

>>51908659
ah so it turns out you cant take a gargant in an ironjaws army without having to go elsewhere for battlelines, which is what this whole argument was about

>>51908671
Since we're talking about the Gargant, do you think I should sell the Gargant from the Thunderfist box and buy something else?

>>51908680
Nah, a gargant is still a very cool model. Keep it, because hopefully GHB2 opens more battleline options, which was a common complaint when GW asked for feedback on the GHB.

If anything you have a cool centerpiece model for narrative play, and maybe you will expand and get a couple units of grots or orruk boys which would allow you to field it in matched play.

>>51908702
Maybe you're right. Also, the only army I will be facing (most of the time) is skaven, so his ability to instakill low wound models would come in handy

>>51908748
There is a ton of conversion potential for the gargant. Just google image search "warhammer giant conversion". I would try to get some skaven models and have him holding a couple and stick one in a cage or under his foot or something.

>>51908779
Is there any way I could convert him to be more of an "orruk" gargant? I doubt very much, but I mean, greenstuff does wonderful things

>>51908794
Stick some big jaw bits on him, paint him green, use extra ironjaws bits on him. I'd say super doable.

anyone played as or against soulblight or brass stampede in 1k?

i need info - for reasons.

Am I the only one who actually believes that Nagah is going to make his own Sigmarines?

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just picked up the orruk thunderfist, pretty fun guys to paint

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I'm working on a skaven list currently, Does this look fine or do I need more magic support or anything else for 1k?

The current people i'm facing are a Sylvaneth player with 2x3 kournoths (scythe and bow), A tzeentch player with a Tzaangor deathstar, and a Wanderer 'gunline' army.

>>51906472
what's TGA?

>>51902023
Use nuln oil plz

>>51909512
I would drop the wind mortars for flamethrowers or more clanrats.

I think you have enough magic, remember to always take helm of conquest. You might also consider running the clanrat in two bricks of 30 with spears for decent damage.

Warp fire fiends > everything else but you become "That guy" for playing them

T. Guy with 5000+ points of Skaven

>>51909518

http://www.tga.community/

Biggest AoS forums

>>51909592
>T. Guy with 5000+ points of Skaven
Okay, that sounds good!

>>51902709
Take a look at Darkling Covens. Their only disadvantage is that they are all footsloggers but they offer the best basis for a dark elf force atm imo

>>51908454
>>51908475
I've seen lots of people do this. also $10 skeleton juice box (comes with 5 dudemans.)

>>51909635
No worries, Skaven are sadly underrepresented at my store so I do my best to bring the word

>>51909329
Yes. Because it's a stupid idea.

>>51909592
IF i gave the stormfiends like double warpfires, shock gauntlets and grinderfists, which would let them dig up anywhere, took out the mortarts bumped the clanrats to 30, that would leave me 100 points to either add a warpfire thrower or another warlock engineer, would that work?

>>51909329
Nagash said he don't know how.

>>51907182
no

>>51907490
That's Ur-Slannesh not sure just a keeper of secrets

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Warlord's (almost) finished, what do you guys think?

>>51910063
you put him on the wrong base, anon.

paint looks good at least.

>>51910118
All my Skaven are on squares, and a 25 mm base looks better for him since his supplied 20 mm is way too small for him

>>51909329
>Nagash making immortal warriors out of his immortal warriors
Sure, why not? Seems like something he would do.

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>>51910063
makes me want to play a skaven army.
...
I mean: THIN YOUR FUCKING PAINT!!111

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>>51908475
Thats thinking outside the box. I'll use that idea in the future WHEN TOMB KINGS ARE BACK FFS!

>>51909630
biggest AoS shitshow you now

1000pts of competitive Death without FEC. How is it done?

>>51910552
Neffie and Blood Knights

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What's wrong with Poisoned-Wind Mortar? I'm playing 1000 pts games and these fuckers are often my MVPs - it's common for me to wreck the shit out of bigger enemy units before first melee fight thanks to mortars. Anon's are often claiming that mortars are useless and flamethrowers are better but at the end of the day both teams are poorly average.
Did I miss something? I have not played a lot of games - mainly against bloodbound, aelves and other skavens so maybe I was lucky?

>>51907686
Usually you use the rules of units that are included in your list, why should you be able to to use the rules of a unit that you don't have in your list?

>>51910679
They're pretty baller against large units. However they still have a hit, wound and save roll. Fire throwers on the other hand have guaranteed damage, but are short ranged and need their special ability to be effective. I like them both, and PWM can skulk in cover more effectively.

>>51910679
Also, they both have a maximum damage of (mortal) 6 wounds

The mortar has a higher range and can shoot from cover, but requires more rolls and doesn't deal mortal wounds

The thrower deals mortal wounds but is very low range, thus putting himself in danger

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>>51907272
>implying

Anons, anyone know the origin(meaning) of the word, veritant?

>>51912134
From latin veritas, i.e. truth.
The Lords-Veritant are revelators of falsehood and corruption, hence them being called truth-bringers.

Why do Kurnoth Hunters cost 160 when they are strictly better than Kroxigors that cost 180

Do female Skaven exist in AoS?

>>51912222
If they did, they wouldn't be any different than the female skaven of ye olde worlde

I.e. not waifu material

>>51912182
Yeah I figured that one out a while ago. I took some Latin so I know veritas pretty much means truth.

Now I'm curious about aquilor

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>>51912203
>Really taken by fantasy.
>Like all the models and how streamlined the rules are.
>Nobody wants to give it a try. 40k all day every day.

>>51912300
I know the feel, bro. I at least have a brother to play with, but he's too cheap to buy a fantasy army and always proxies his 40k Orks

Hey guys, just 1 question:
new grots when?

>>51912371
2 weeks from now

>>51912203
>Why do Kurnoth Hunters cost 160 when they are strictly better than Kroxigors that cost 180

because the balance is driven by sales needs and not by a desire for balanced play.

>>51902031
>e unless your take ironjaws allegiance. and if you do that, they currently don't have any allegiance abilities.
yeah but you'd still get the destruction allegiance abilities and have brutes as beefy battleline

>>51908194
normally it'd need points, but they made it part of the FAQ that "keyworded" battalions don't break allegiance but do not confer the keyword to units inside of it for in game purposes

>>51912286

It's pretty obvious Aquilor comes from Aquila, the eagle that carried Zeus thunderbolts for him.

He even has an entire constellation named after him IRL, making it doubly appropriate as a name for a stormcast.

Computer games when?

>>51912452

T b h I'm not sure what allegiance ability Ironjawz could get that would be better than the plain destruction ability

>>51912518
>Computer games when?

but anon... then you would never paint your minis and we all know you already have enough trouble finding the motivation to paint them.

>>51912518

I would love a mini campaign for total warhammer that covered from the opening of the gates of azyr to Vandus beating Kruul on the pyramid.

No meta map, same units carry over between missions but any reinforcements can be vanguard deployed by lightning

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Guys, I would like to make a StrawPoll to know what armies are played on /tg/. Asking about GA would be too inaccurate but on the other hand there are too many small factions to include everyone. How should I part them?

>>51912649

Race unless there's a battletome division

So just say high elves, dark elves, wood elves, free people, etc

But say Greenskins and Ironjawz since there's a battletome division there.

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>>51912649
these + the new ones.

>>51912649
Just do both.

I can also predict that Order has the most players and Death has the least players.

>>51908598
But the regular orruk warboss gets a base +1 attack for its command ability and it affects all orruks. The megaboss only affects Ironjawz. Seems awfully weird that his normal counter part always gets +1 attack. Yes I know they don't have the option for +2 attacks, but for ironjawz to have an ability that swingy is indeed off putting.

>>51912526
I'm hoping for two things. Either a combined Greenskin book ala Tzeentch or Stormcast, or whatever they do give us makes it better than +d6 movement, cause right now, that's pretty damn strong with Ironfist.

>>51912491
Ah so that's where Aquila comes from. I know 40k uses it too, and it makes sense. Cool

>>51912817
If that allegiance ability exists, I don't see it.
Barring horrendously overpowered shit like +1 Attack for every model on the charge, there is very little an army of slow melee beatsticks could want instead of improved movement, and even then I'd probably take the +d6 movement.
I've seen Fyreslayer, Bloodbound and Beastmen players despair over the fact that their allegiance ability is *not* Rampaging Destroyers.

What's stongest army after Stormcasts?

>>51912907
Ironjawz

>>51912798

Yeah that's pretty silly

>>51912907

Stormcast are top 5 but probably not number 1.

But the answer is beastclaw raiders

>>51913038

I fucking wish

>>51912893
It is really good and I can see why. Though to be fair, Fyreslayers atleast have shooting attacks. Bloodbound I agree with. but I've seen beastmen haul ass across the board and especially since they can run and charge giving them rampaging destroyers means the entire army is in an Ironfist battalion.

But yeah, Ironjawz don't need a flat +1 attack on the charge. It's fine that they have to Waagh, but as i've posted in this thread, it shouldn't be so random for basically being the Biggest of all Black Orcs.

Maybe some sort of reroll on the Waagh Dice? Or minus the number of units needed to achieve +2 attacks?

Im hoping if it's a greenskins book, we get stormcast treatment for totem units. Allow customizing the warchanter or warboss with Waagh banner.

Weapon artefacts would be good. Maybe mount upgrade? Since we got wyverns and boars. Dunno though, maybe if we got a megaboss on boar and Bonesplittaz got their boss on a flying mount as shown in art.

General trinkets would be nice. Could just bring in the bonesplittaz stuff for one of the lists, and make one for ironjawz and green skins.

I think there's a lot you can do with the orruks, it just requires gw to do a little bit more with them.

Is there any other place to find the official tournament rules or is it always going to be in the General's Handbook?

>>51913054
So, whats number 1 army?

>>51900784
At work at the moment but looking forward to getting home tonight and working on more nurgley goodness.

Question about shadows over hammerhal, I've always been a collector and painter, but I suggested a night playing shadows over hammerhal and all my normie friends were totally down for it: how long does it take to run through a dungeon and the surface stuff? I've got more than 5 people who want to come along.

>>51913078
During a masters tournament it was tomb kings, but a nerf to their points is coming soon.

However just about every tournament results has a different top army, so it's hard to determine what is THE top army right now, which can be seen as a good thing at this point

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>>51913099
Pic related

>>51900784
Waiting for my starter set blood reavers to arrive in the mail so I can make my chaos marauders of Nurgle. Then I'll have my 1k points of mortal Nurgle built and ready for painting

>>51913143
Looks great. Maybe a little less bieltan green and more athonian camoshade, but otherwise looks good

>>51913078

It was tomb kings but they're getting the nerf bat pretty hard and it's pretty difficult to say exactly who else would be number 1.

Kurnoth hunter sylvaneth, skaven, beastclaws, free people's, Tzeentch?, stormcast* are all probably contenders for high tier competitive

* stormcast, living up to their reputation, occupy a similar position on the tier list as vanilla marines do in 40k: played right they're quite good, played wrong they're hot garbage.

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>>51902866
I'd say have one unit of three in any case, but you don't have to fill your list with them to be effective.

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I think I need your help. I'm new to the game, and I bought the general's handbook, where the Ironjawz units (my army of choice) can be taken as battleline only if the army sports the "ironjawz" allegiance.

Does this mean that if I wanted to include (let's say) a unit of arrer boyz in order to get some ranged support, then I would lose the ironjawz allegiance and have an umplayable army without units counting as battlelines? Or can I choose which allegience I prefear when making the list? How does it work?

>>51913621
Kurnoth hunter spam. Skyrefyre Skaven. Beastclaws.

I would really put free people up there I think. Handgunners are really good, but they suffer from not being able to move to get really good shots off. Stormcast might still be top tier, but dunno yet. Tzeentch i think can be a good middle high tier with Ironjawz. They have good shooting, magic is really good, and if you play Tzaangors, good melee.

>>51913729
You have it right the first time. Being an Ironjaw only army means all of your troops are Battleline, so you can spam them to your hearts content. But if you want to go Ironjawz and bonesplittaz, now you need general destruction battleline. A lot of ironjawz are hoping for Ardboyz to be battleline in the future so Ironjaw players can branch out.

>>51904057
Is this from the Order GA book?

>>51913784

thank you. Well, at this point it's safe to say that It kind of sucks as it is now. Sure after all those stormcast books they could surely make us that favor after all.

>>51913077
rebumping for this question

>>51913864
Maybe on particular tournament site?

>>51913802
Yes

>>51913864
It will vary from tournament to tournament. If it's an ITC tournament, there is no universal rules or packet yet, because the GHB handles things well enough

>>51913860
>after all those stormcast books
I wish this nonsense would go away and stay gone. If you are as new as you say, then you may want to stick to actual facts instead of regurgitating this shit.
Also, the stromcast book didn't make Freeguild Greatswords battleline, either. Ironjawz are near-perfect as is. We don't need much of anything except maybe non-shitty Gore-gruntas, and even that's debateable.

>>51913860
Ironjawz got released before factions started getting benefits outside of battleline choice. Sylvaneth and Beastclaw raiders were one of the first factions to get this treatment, and they've slowly gone back and filled it in with Stormcasts getting an update. Khorne Bloodbound, Ironjawz, Seraphon, Pestilens and Flesh Eater courts were all released before the GHB so they didn't get anything outside of Battleline choice, so we are hoping they get what they are missing soon. Someone has rumor'd that there is a book coming out to give all of those missing factions artefacts and traits, and maybe that might be a hold over, but I'm really hoping for more books in the style of stormcast adn tzeentch.

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Alright guys, we need to do some meme magic. The question is - what we want? Nurgle battletome or Aelves release? I'm for dwarves

>>51914339
I'm sick of hearing about Nurgle and Dwarves desu.

There are other armies that need new releases much more than either of those.

>>51914367
Let me guess - death? Because death would be ok too

>>51914199
Gore-gruntas and rules that are not worth 180. While d3 damage sounds good, you have to have nothing within 8" to make it work, one of the few calv that have this stipulation. The weirdnob kills himself due to wording, his spells are also super hard to cast due to high level, and only by having a good amount of ardboyz will you even get the +casting he needs. And the command ability that has a chance to not work.

>>51914383
I honestly think they're gonna revamp Tomb Kings lore and repackage alot of their nicer/newer models. It'd take virtually no effort on their part and given how the userbase has been screaming for them(Mostly newcomers to the franchise who like egyptian shit) I think it'd be dumb not to do that. Especially given that Death is seriously lacking. Just more of a question of when, rather than if.

>>51914454
Well if they do, we don't know when it's coming or any inclinations of it in rumors.

So to everyone else
ASKING ON A MEDITERRANEAN CANDLE MAKING MESSAGE BOARD DOESN'T MAKE IT HAPPEN, SO STOP FUCKING ASKING WHEN!

>>51914454
Well, maybe desert Aelves and TK will come true some day - I hope so

>>51914489
Which is why I said it's more a question of when rather than if

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>>51914367
>>51903752
>so its almost marchJuly 2015 AOS got released, its almost March 2017 now coming up on two years deep. When will elves get some love?

>>51914454
>Mostly newcomers to the franchise who like egyptian shit

you forgot the part about how they are just jumping on the bandwagon of arguably strongest faction in the game

>>51914579
>Literally my mom's DEldar

>>51914613
Newbies are starting with faction that looks cool in their opinion (Sylvaneth, Seraphon) or is cheap (SCE, Nurgle) - at least at my LGS

>>51914632
>Literally my mom's DEldar

your mom plays dark elder? shit your dad is a lucky guy. she's a freak

>>51914613
I really think we will see much less TK begging when the nerf comes.

In 8th they were one of the lower tier factions which contributed to their popularity

>>51914613
Believe it or not, most normies go by rule of cool when they pick their army. That's kind of the point of why this hobby is popular to begin with. They aren't really try hards.

>>51914399
Gore-gruntas are shit, yes, which is a shame. As is the shaman, but then again, you're probably not playing Ironjawz for the magic oomph.
But the command ability is fine the way it is. It'd be absurdly powerful without the chance to fail. +1 or even +2 Attacks on every unit within 10? That's ridiculous.

Nu Thread

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>>51914908
My point is though that I've stated before is that the regular orruk greenskin warboss for the same points, gets +1 attack to all orruks within 12" no roll needed. And it's not like it's lasting till the next hero phase either. It's for the next combat phase.

Also why is it acceptable for our only caster to be awful and our calv to be awful as well?

>>51914579
>When will elves get some love?
We got two new elf models in Silver Tower.

>>51914175
Thanks.

>>51913904
I just wanted a general one in mind, but I guess that's what the General one is for.