EDH Commander General

>>51850830
What Are some Good commanders for a Timmy who loves green and a dooshbag who loves counterspells and blue? I'm trying to get some friends into edh

>>51851258
Omnath and Talrand

>>51851375
New omnath or old omnath?

>>51851258
Two different players?

Selvala and Baral Obama.

>>51851436
Well one's a big fucking green thing that helps you get big fucking green things and one's a landfall combo laser factory
which one do you think is timmier

OTHER THREAD QUESTION:

What are your biggest pet peeves DURING a game?

>>51851436
I meant old but if your buddy has a thing for elementals and will be playing along side douchy McCounter Dick splashing red for the sake of Gutteral Response, Vexing Shusher and Red Elemental blast is certainly not terrible. I meant old Omnath though.

>>51851531
Excuse my redundant statement for being redundant. I am very tired.

>>51851500
Friends use to drive me fucking insane playing creatures and shit close to themselves and lands up front towards me. Glad they ruled that shit out. Excessive hand shuffling will drive me crazy if the match goes for longer and my opponent takes long turns. Finally grabbing my cards without asking. Just kinda rude.

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>>51850830
>What's your favourite midrange beater?

Korlash, Heir to BlackBlade.

>>51851500
>Plays an X costing spell and doesn't tap his mana first
>Holds a grudge against you for what you did the previous game
>When someone plays King Maker

>>51851650
My "swamps matter" Korlash deck is so mediocre but I love it.
When it actually gets going and you have Korlash dual-wielding Nightmare Lash and Lashwrithe for triple lash combo is just plain fun.

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>>51851678
>My Korlash deck
>Having Bitterblossom and Contamination out
>No one else is playing black
>mfw

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>>51851723

>>51851500
>taking more than five minutes to complete your turn
>taking more than five minutes to complete your turn when the previous player just took 5+ minutes to complete HIS turn

Something snaps in me when people just sit there looking at their cards processing in silence. I turn into that guy and ask "my turn? " every 30 seconds.

I have a lot of UG staples but I find typical UG decks to be boring. Suggestions? Adding a 3rd colour is fine

>>51851789
My group has started using chess playclocks to maintain turns. you only get 30 minutes in total turn time. If you go over you lose.

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>>51851790
Kalemne

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>>51851790
For reference, I already have Ghave, Daxos of Meletis, Dralnu, Nicol Bolas and Kresh

>>51851500
People not just fucking winning when they have it.
>Guy has Elesh Norn and a fuckload of other creatures, more than enough to take out all of us in one attack
>He untaps, fiddles with his hand for a minute, activates Scion of the Ur Dragon, etc. for like 3 min.
>Finally just goes to combat and ends the game
Fuck you Dave, just attack if you have lethal, it's borderline rude to make us sit there and watch while you jerk off with your cards.

>>51851531
>>51851462
>>51851451
>>51851375
Thanks for the suggestions

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>>51851813

>>51851879
I mean, if someone's untapped, there can be reason to give pause

>>51851940
We all had some combination of no hand or no open mana. And none of his fiddling around was to protect his board or shore up against counterplay, it was just making his creatures bigger when he already had the win.

>>51851500
Bullshit politics and bad threat assessment.

>>51851790

Leovold.

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>>51850830

>What's your favourite midrange beater?

Pic related. Or just Thragtusk, I guess I never stopped being a timmy

>>51851678
Strata Scythe is another fun one.

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why does this fucker exile the creatures it zombifies

i'm complaining because i want to run him as a commander, but he shuts down any creature death strategies in such an unfun way that i don't want to. also all the fun stuff like sangromancer and grave betrayal don't work because of the exile clause and that sucks too

also that 18 dollar price tag wtf

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>>51850830
>What's your favourite midrange beater?
This bad boy
>what makes a midrange creature good enough for EDH
It has to represent a good threat that needs responding or it needs to put a clock of some sort on your opponents.

And 5 mana isn't egregious in EDH. I can hit that safely turn 3 and have leftover mana.

>>51852224
>why does this fucker exile the creatures it zombifies
So you don't zombify it the normal way and illogically get multiple units out of one corpse, also he's feeding it to Ulamog.

>>51852224

Run him with sac effects so you get zombies to keep saccing while your opponents get nothing

Dictate of Erebos, Grave Pact, Butcher of Malakir, you know, the usual

>>51852277
yeah thats what i want to do but i don't want to be that guy who says "oh sorry ur aura thief doesnt work because of my guy, i guess u forgot ;)"

i don't really want to buy him before he rotates out of standard anyway

>>51852306

Any deck that takes advantage of his ability is going to be fun police anyways, might as well go all in

>>51851789
I'm fine with taking a longer turn, as long as you're DOING SHIT. If you're just vacantly staring at things, fuck you

>>51851798
>Chess clocks
Shut up, you'll summon him!

>>51852361
i guess

i guess i'll try proxying him for a couple of games and see how it goes

>>51852065
>bad threat assessment
NOTHING triggers me harder. Not one thing. I'm fine with being the go-to target because I'm open, but when people are kicking the already-down guy and totally ignoring the clear threat it makes me want to choke them

>>51852389
>Proxying a card to see if it works in your deck before you buy it
absolutely reasonable

>>51851879
>>51851962
> "I cast blah blah blah. It's a 700/700 and I'm giving it trample, lifelink, vigilance, etc. I end my turn."
> don't have any answers
> topdeck a land
> "Well I've got nothing, you win."
> "WHAT? Dude DON'T quit, let me take one more turn!"
> "I don't have any answers, you win"
> "Well I'm going anyway. I generate infinite tokens and mana and they're all 500/500 and I swing for billions and you lose!"

This is why we all fucking hate you Joe.

>>51851500
When people don't pay attention. Like, it's fine to not be 100% laser-focused when we're playing- answer that text, turn around to watch what just happened on the Pro Tour coverage, discuss why SAO is trash with the guy watching the game, sure

But when you turn around to trade, or get tunnel-visioned on your phone or whatever, and then we have to basically knock you across the head to say IT'S YOUR FUCKING TURN and you suddenly want to counter the thing that got played 2 entire turns ago when you weren't paying attention, get fucked

>>51852486
>Playing Slivers
>only infinites are the stereotypical mana echoes/queen or intruder alarm/gemhide shenanigans
>game stagnates because r/b chaos player is doing lmaochaos things
>finally manage to pull off the queen/echoes just to end the game and play a different one
>prove the combo, others start to scoop
>lmaochaos on their phone whenever it's not their turn; confused as to why everyone is scooping, asked what I was comboing off with
>"Oh I chaos warp the mana echoes in response to queen!"
Holy shit that was like a full 2 minutes ago why do you do this to me world?
The rest of the table got on their case about paying attention and the combo did go off but it was still one of my biggest "ugh" moments to date.

I want a Bant goodstuff deck

Who should my commander be?

>>51852703

Roon maybe?

>>51852703
Derevi if you just want to win. Roon if you like slower games. Pheldagriff if you want fun

But really any bant commander works.

>>51852383
Who?

>>51852703
Could just run all of them and rotate through them depending on how you feel each game

>>51852957
gA really fucking hates chess clocks.

>>51852703
Derevi if you want to trigger people.
Arcades Sabboth or Ragnar if you want to troll people.
Angus Mackenzie or Rubinia Soulsinger if you want to have something alright but not deck bending to do.
Phelddagrif if you want to smile like the Cheshire Cat, causing your opponents to be slowly overwhelmed by growing paranoia as they attempt and fail to figure out what the hell you're doing.

>>51852438
>just let me capture your king!

The worst. I understand it sometimes, especially if it's a neat Johnny interaction rather than just overwhelming power on the board. Still bad when they waste everyone's time with that shit.

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>>51852968
I don't HATE them, they're just horribly impractical.

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Always loved Egyptian afterlife mythology, so I'll be brewing Not!Anput no matter how shit she ends up being.
Anyone else got plans for Amonkhet?

>>51853033
>they're just horribly impractical.
Much like pictures for ants.

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>>51853049
Well that's embarrassing.

>>51853034
I want some of those new fullart lands so badly

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>>51853122
I want some of the grixis ones in case I ever end up brewing ol' daddy bolas, but besides that, full arts never did much for me.

I'm hoping we get some more desert/pyramid basics to go with the Abzan ones. At the very least I hope R/U get some.

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>>51851790
>>51851813
>>51851935

Red white is probably not the route to go unless you want hard mode up your butt

How does Sidar Kondo plus Ludevic sound? Basically bad Edric but more access to other colours for cool shit

>>51853218
You have to admit that Gisela lends herself pretty hard to combo, considering all you have to do is give her 1 more power and she can two-shot people.

Like yeah, she interacts well with things like Earthquake to keep your guys alive and their guys dead, or using Manabarbs, but the primary focus is gonna be smashing face.

>>51853243
>Basically bad Edric
God it in one.

>>51852997
Oh I'm down to see something cool, but this fucking guy never does anything cool so it's just annoying as all hell.

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Combo players: What do you announce when you cast a combo piece? Just the effect written on the card or the interaction it might have with something on the board? I feel like I'm going to run into some deflating wins from "Oh I would have countered that if I had known about that interaction". Yeah, it's their responsibility to keep track of what's going on, but there are often a lot of things on the board, and I couldn't blame them for not noticing something like Darkest Hour + Teysa.

Anybody got a leovold decklist that isn't a gorillion and half dollars? I got one for $20 off and want to build something cool/interesting. Any suggestions? I was think wheels to feed re animator. Thoughts?

>>51851760
That is spicy anti-stax tech

>>51853750
Or would be if it killed Artifacts.

>>51853713
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/trest-foriegn-relations-board/
It's about $250, which for Leovold/EDH isn't dirt cheap but at the same time it's doable.

>>51850830
>playing Sharuum eggs
>against a Zur, Selvala and Kozilek
>hold Ad Nauseam in hand, there's nothing I can do if it gets countered
>Zur attacks, searches for Stasis (?) and tries to counter some random removal spell aimed at Zur
>cast Ad Nauseam is response
>Zur player gets mad that I won after drawing 20+ cards with Ad Nauseam instead of being angry at his own mistake

It's not my fault he searched for a bunch of crap instead of comboing with Zur as he should be doing.

>>51853887
Zur Players are very dumb

>>51853812
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/trest-foriegn-relations-board/
Thank you based anon. I got the Ydris precon and was going to use that as a sort of shell for leovold while i worked toward a better build.

>>51853930
I was more annoyed at their choice of cards. If you're playing Zur to win, why not just play the best list around, instead of tutoring for necropotence and trying to take someone down with Zur and some shitty auras?

>>51853571
I mean I just try to sneak it out desu maybe I'm a dick but my decks are not super competitive and usually only have one or two combos

>>51854058
Maybe they weren't playing it to win. Have you seen gA's fuckawful Zur list?

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>>51852065
Saving others is the worst element of this, not if it's an educated move like I can't beat you without him but like saving the person.

The game that had me up the fucking wall was this 3 player game. Elf combo deck was popping off and would have lethal for both of us next turn, I had a bloodrush gruul that was running out of steam fast and the other guy was a kor equipment that wasn't going as aggro as planned.

I have enough to go lethal against the elf player and the kor guy pops pic related saving the elf. I scoop on the spot and elf stomps kor.

Wanted to strangle something

>>51853571
Never announce more than the name of the spell. If you win the game once it's resolved, say "Resolves? Cool, I win-" and demonstrate the combo. You shouldn't hold your group's hand by saying "I cast Sanguine Bond, which will go infinite with my Exquisite Blood if it resolves and I crack this fetchland. Response?".

>>51854125
I'm pretty sure he was playing to win, that's the thing. That guy only brews super competitive shit, like Narset or Azami.

>>51854147
Then fuck him, he's an idiot.

>>51850830
>>Thread question
>What's your favourite midrange beater? What makes a midrange creature good enough for EDH?
none, I don't usually attack.

>>51851500
>OTHER THREAD QUESTION:
>What are your biggest pet peeves DURING a game?
when somebody lights the room i'm playing in on fire. though it didn't happen before I'm sure it would piss me the uck off
but to be frank, propably taking ages tutoring.

>>51853571
It's always "alright, I cast this?" They answer yes and I say it resolves I win and explain the combo to anyone who doesn't get it.

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>>51853571

If I'm going to go infinite and my playgroup doesnt' know about the cards (which they usually don't), I explain it before casting only the first time. After that, it's their problem

>>51853571
I agree I shouldn't baby my group like that, but I'd also prefer to win when all my opponents play optimally. I wouldn't enjoy the win as much if I find out after the game that I won purely because my opponent just didn't know the interaction. I usually explain things what I'm about to do and give them a chance to respond, if I would win the game through it.

ADDITIONAL OPTIONAL THREAD QUESTION

How 'serious' are you guys about the rules and the takebacks? Scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is "anything goes, I'd let them undo a whole turn" and 10 is "Day 2 of a GP"

>>51854269

3 if kitchen table, 6 if store

>>51854269
Depends on how much I hate the person, but usually a 3 or 4

>>51853571
i basically always tell my opponents what i intend to do with my spell if it would be obvious to someone who knows how my deck works. so when i cast ashnod's altar i tend to say "i will probably win if you let this stick for a turn" or "i will be casting the tooth and nail i tutored for last turn to win the game so you should be focusing me"

>>51854320
also if my opponent is thinking about what he should remove from my table, i usually just tell them straight up what permanent would hurt me the most to lose

>>51854269
2 kitchen table, 4 store, and 8-9 with money on the line.

>>51854142
>which will go infinite with my Exquisite Blood if it resolves and I crack this fetchland. Response?".
But that's wrong

>>51854269
depends.
triggers you'll have topay attention to, if you miss a may trigger you missed it, no going back.
if you play a card that doesn't do what you thought it would because you forgot something was on the board etc. we also allow to undo it because we're usually quite high while playing but it's not anarchy because we actually want to improve our game

>>51851500
Players conceding at instant speed to fuck with combat damage triggers or spells on the stack

>>51854401
Shhhh it's okay, just pretend they said lightning bolt.

>>51853080
[ L E T Y O U R W I F E N A M E Y O U R
K I D S]

you clearly suck at it

>>51853080
is that a jojo reference?

>>51854456
>Shhhh it's okay
not that anon but it's not okay, because that's not how the combo works.
Correcting someone because they misinterpret the rules is a good thing.

>>51851258
>Good commanders for a Timmy who loves green

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mo-knows-overkill/

>>51854348
>>51854320
>>51854240
>I'd also prefer to win when all my opponents play optimally.
God damn, this is annoying sometimes. I have one friend who almost never interacts with the stack. It's frustrating to see him play sub-optimally and miss simple opportunities. There's only so much handholding you can do. At this point I just let him fuck up.

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>>51853218
let me fix that for you

What is the best creature based combo deck. Derevi? General Tazri?

>>51851500
This >>51852486 Like that guy I don't have a thing about table talk or momentary distractions but if you are playing a game with 3+ other people waiting on you and needing your attention and proceed to not give the game the attention it strictly needs I'm going to turn into Evil Anon real quick.

>>51854429 is also pretty bad, to the point where we actually hit it with the houserule hammer here: "Scooping is a shortcut. If the rest of the game state needs to know what happened, it ALL happened" So no you can't concede just to deny the person who killed you their Lifelink, but you can start picking up your shortly-to-be nonexistant (in game) cards while we add up exactly how much that was.

Exceptions are, naturally, made for scoops NOT performed in the face of an incoming loss.

>>51854666
General Tazri
Prossh
Yisan
New Selvala
Old Selvaa
Karador boonweaver

>>51854666
Ghave

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>>51854661
Playing/building Adriana now. She's basically the same as Agrus. Better in a lot of situations.

>>51854686
What sucks is ive already built 4/7 of those haha

>>51854348
Oh I always try to get them to remove something else by giving them shittt but convincing advice.

Nigga you can see my board, if you can't figure out what I value the most then get fucked.

>>51854680
Oh, my group actually tries as hard as possible to fuck over the player that had lethal on them by tactical scooping. It adds a hilarious layer of strategy to the game in my opinion.

>>51854429
Conceding is a sorcery speed action in my playgroup.

>>51854269
really depends on playgroup.
One play group is mostly new people that I had to teach them about turn phases, that you don't have to tap to block, and how indestrucable works. There I usually let them take it back as it is still there turn and it easy to fix the responses.

Another is people I meet at my normal bar and they probably a 4 or 5

Final group is my home meta and there are no take backs because we've all been playing long enough to know better and are super competitive with hopes of doing a team sealed/draft event at a grand prix one day.

i'm also less inclined to let a take back happen if the mistake they made puts me ahead I "won" a game of catan yesterday before my second turn because everyone conceded. My main opponent was racing me to a spot and traded me to try to build something. He did the wrong materials and tried to force me to trade back. I asked him if I traded him back would he use it to build in the spot we were fighting for. He said yes so I said no and he said he was done playing since that would make him lose and he needed to study for class. Everyone else conceded to me as well since it got super awkward.

>>51854110
>>51854142
>>51854195
ITT: antisocial cunts

>>51855024
t. can't-be-assed-to-pay-attention-to-the-game-anon

>>51855024
If you have a counter you should be asking what every spell you're not familiar with does

>>51854649
>>51854348
>>51854320
>>51854240
I do this too with my newer friends but one of them gets super ass blasted says i'm playing kingmaker by walking people through complex deck interactions. Main point being I got knocked out by shu yun. Shu yun was looking to lethal one of the other 2 and had gods willing in hand. I remind him protection from color makes shu yun unblockable. The guy he chooses to attack has only green out and can't block the 21 commander damage. Green guy bitches me out for rest of night for "making him lose."

>>51855024
I play in a pretty closed meta, any card I know my playgroup knows, I'm known as combo player. When I say "alright I cast this?" I hand the card to anyone who wants to see it.

If they don't understand what that card can do then well that's on them man.

>>51855023
I let nooblets take back mostly anything if it's still their turn. I also remind them about missed triggers after their turn.

In my somewhat casual playgroup I let people take back a wrong land drop, change how they tapped their mana, and a trigger that doesn't say "you may" as long as it's in the same phase.

In my regular playgroup people get to take back jack fucking shit.

>>51854973
>play vedalken orrery in every deck for instant speed concedes

gg no remach

>>51853571
I just play the spell and ask if it resolves. If my opponants can't see how cards interact there is no point

>>51855222
Orrery says "play cards" at sorcery speed.

>>51855316
At instant speed*
So it doesn't affect playing lands, or other stuff like outlast, and definitely not conceding.

>>51855316
>"play cards" at sorcery speed.
no it says: "you can play nonland cards whenever you could cast an instant."

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>>51854717
ur right

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>2HG night at the store
>break out Thar for the first game
>first guy I get paired with plays Thar
>against Slobad and Purphoros

>our fucking faces when we both land 1-drop dorks and a Somberwald Sage in the first 2 turns

>>51854429
Ah yes, the Douchescoop.

>>51854457
>Implying I'd have kids

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>>51854546
You know it baby

>>51854661
>>51855389
How is Gisela not combat? Do people build her with burn spells?

>>51855024
Pay attention to the game at hand. Expecting people to not be zoned out playing Candy Crush and then demanding we undo 2 entire turns so they can counter something is not 'antisocial'.

>>51855811
She turns a lot of 'symmetrical' damage effects very asymmetrical. Manabarbs gets better when it hits you for 0 and hits everyone else for 2.

>>51855811
yes because otherwise shes just too overcosted to do much else.

>>51854429
>>51854973
RETARDED FUCKING TURBOSHITTERS DETECTED

PLAY AROUND THE SCOOP YOU FAGS

>>51854269
Only colossal autists don't allow takebacks during a casual game

>>51856023
I think it depends on frequency and scale. Like, a minor-to-moderate "oh shit- can I take that back?" every now and then is fine, but if people are needing a 'takeback' four and five times a game, or are making 100% legal-but-stupid plays because they're not paying attention, all you're doing is enabling them.

>>51853571
>I cast Tooth and Nail, does it resolve?
>Deadeye and Palinchron
>trigger, trigger, responses?

If they want more information at any point, they need only ask.

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>>51855923
but muh dragons

>>51851500
Bad threat assessment.

Example: Utter Ending a Strata Scythe that's counting 4 lands over 2 commanders and someone's engine piece.

>>51856105
I honestly don't know if I hate bad threat assessment or stupid grudges the most. There's people in my group I flat out refuse to play with because they just hyperfocus on me every single time.

>>51856023
I dunno how people feel so comfortable asking for a bunch of takebacks, mind you I don't mind but I only ask for a take back if I feel ike my intent was to do the other thing or it will lose me the game and even then I feel like I kicked someones dog :/

>>51855099
>>51855819
It's not an issue with attention. Forcing everyone to be fully aware of exactly every play and every possible combo before it resolves just bogs the game down, stifles conversation and leads to anticlimactic games whenever an infinite manages to sneak through.
It's acceptable in a cutthroat Spike meta with everyone on the same power level or in prized events, but nowhere else.

>>51855671
I like 2HG as a format but combining any other format with EDH is cancer

>>51856259
Nah man, Planechase EDH is great. And then there's a weird void where anything else is unfun, until you go ultra-turbo-crazy.

We once played a game of Planechase Archenemy Emperor Commander.

>>51856280
I'm gonna respectfully disagree with you. No hard feelings but I fucking hate Planechase.

>>51856280
>Planechase Archenemy Emperor Commander
I threw up a bit.

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>>51856280
>planechase archenemy emperor commander
why

>>51856383
>>51856389
I'll be honest, it was literally "What is the craziest fucking variant we can play with the six of us?".

It's not something I'd recommend doing more than once a year. Like dropping acid, you need to space that shit out.

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>>51856280

>Planechase Archenemy Emperor Commander

>>51856424
It was pretty fucking bonkers. We used a shared Planar Deck, and each Emperor got a Scheme Deck. Beyond that, normal EmperorCommander.

>>51856105
>tap Kiki targeting zealous conscripts
>opponent paths the conscripts

>>51856121
One guy in my group is always throwing big threats out on turn 4-5, so obviously I direct my attention at him. He always complains I hate him and carries the grudge to other games.

>>51856404
Next time add a little of Vanguard to the mix.

>>51856469
There's a difference between "anticipating what that deck usually does and setting up accordingly" and "I'm going to cast Shattering Spree on your Signet on turn 2 because fuck you"

>>51853080
holy fuck your deck names are pure cringe

>>51856505
>"I'm going to cast Shattering Spree on your Signet on turn 2 because fuck you"
if your opponent was counting on that signet to prevent them from being mana screwed how is that a bad play?

>>51856542
Thank you!

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>>51855671
>Purph casts Dragon Fodder or something
>Thar Bros facefuck for 12
Amazing. I'm getting a chubby thinking about it.

I hope you ran damage doublers.

>>51856555
Well, that depends. It's possibly a 'correct' play in the sense that it might knock someone's legs out from under them and make it much harder for them to win, but it's also a dick move to basically say "Nah, you lose on turn 2" in a format like multiplayer EDH. And if that dick move was done not out of actual strategy, but just sheer petty spite, then it's a double dick move.

>>51856555
How do they know he's mana screwed? More importantly, I can think of several other high profile targets that spell could target. Blowing it on a signet to potentially waylay future plays for a turn is pretty wasteful.

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>>51856440

>>51856642
Well, if you have two Islands and an Orzhov Signet in an Esper deck...

>>51856440
...but that still stops the combo.

I mean yeah, they still have Kiki, but the combo's broken.

>>51856053
poor Dromar, never reprinted

>>51856701
Your right. It even stops him from nicking a permanent off the copy. However, Kiki is the crux of the combo and is one restoration angel away from comboing off again. Barring that, Kiki is also a pretty sick value engine.

>>51856694
A safe bet to be sure. Still a waste.

>>51856748
True. I mean, it's probably not the OPTIMAL play (unless them keeping Kiki is less dangerous than getting to steal something this turn- for example, if you had a PW ready to ult), but it's miles ahead of the usual 'bad threat assessment' shit people post

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how do i reliably get taps for this frog nigga?

>>51856869
>Creature - Ouphe

What?

>>51856869
If you're in Bant, I love Glare of Subdual.

>>51856896
""Ouphe" is an old Germanic word, possibly Old English or Icelandic, meaning "elf child" or "one left by the fairies." "

>>51856869
Oppositon (best one)
Llanowar Behemoth

Mothdust changling

Telethopter

Topan Ascetic

Is Kruphix edh kino?

>>51857370
>Is UGx edh CANCER?
Yes. UGx is always cancer

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*unsheathes Tazri foodchain*
Heh, heard you guys were playing edh. Mind if I join?

>>51856869
Copter

>>51857527
Sure, we're all playing monoblue counterspell.dek, have a seat friend.

>>51856869
Paradise mantle, or hankyu as super secret tech.

>>51856869
Hankyu?

>>51857370
the best feeling in the world is drawing the god hand in a 4 player pod and winning on turn 1 while playing Kruphix

The best Part is they all agreed to team up on me at the begining because I started laughing when I saw my hand

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>>51857728
Spicy with counter doubling.

>>51856869
Vehicles

Or stuff here. Maybe you can mess with the search terms a bit

http://magiccards.info/query?q=%28o%3A%7BT%7D+not+o%3Aland%29+%28t%3Aequipment+or+t%3Aaura%29&v=card&s=cname

>>51857728
for some reason i read this as "honkyu" and chuckled. this and opposition both look neat

is 20 counter spells enough for tarland?

>>51857877
No

>>51857885
But I don't have anymore <_>

>>51857877
99 or bust

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>>51857527
Is there a dumber place in the world?

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Anyone here play pauper EDH? My play group is considering building pauper decks so that people with more limited budgets can play without always getting blown out.

The way it works is only commons can be used in the 99, but any common or uncommon creature can be used as a commander.

I'm planning on using pic related as my commander.

>>51857768
Please do tell

>>51858136
That's a sleepy looking snek. I've never played but I've seen people discuss pauper here and I believe the consensus is that it sucks.

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I need some help finding good creatures with power 2 or less in WURG (no black), preferably ones that give value when they deal damage. Lightning Runner is a great example of a sweet one.

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>>51857956
I know just the place

>>51854661
>Jor Kadeen & lolAgrus Kos
>better than Kalemne

You're not that bright, are you?

Not even meming. She's the best 'voltron' commander on that list

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Anything come in the mail for you guys?
Got these today

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>>51853750
>>51853812
Also, if you have a Green Creature, Sundering Vitae

>>51858530
Didn't take a picture and don't feel like pulling them out now because thy're shuffled up but I got the last cards for my budget Tarland deck. Ixidron, Guile, Inkwell Leviathin and Desertion. I'm running a polymorph package if it wasn't obvious

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>>51858530
I wanted two sword of the animists
So I got One of these
Finally came today

How does phasing work? I bought this Equipoise card for like 50 cents and it seems too bonkers for mortal men, unless I'm missing something.

>>51858712
When something phases out, it basically holds up a sign saying "I don't exist" with regards to all other effects in game. Permanents phase back in during the untap step, when no one has priority

phasing in/out does NOT count as entering leaving the battlefield

when a token phases out it, and all things attached to it, cease to exist. They aren't exiled, they're gone 5ever


if something has 'phasing' that means at it will either phase in or out at each of it's controller's untap steps

>>51858712
Their shit phases out on your upkeep. Phasing out is similar to being exiled, except it doesn't change zones. You just pretend they don't exist. They phase back in when their turn starts, before the untap step. Creatures that phase in are not affected by summoning sickness.

>>51858712

Basically, it "removes" the lands, artifacts and creatures from target opponent in excess of your own until his next upkeep, but without him getting the enter the battlefield or leave the battlefield trigger.

>you have 5 lands and 0 artifacts
>opponent has 8 lands, 4 untapped, and 3 artifacts
>you phase out 3 of his untapped lands and all his artifacts
>he gets them back on his next upkeep

So it's a resounding "meh", the best part about it is phasing all the creatures of the guy to your right, so that the next two players can attack him without him being able to block, but that requires you have no creatures.

It's a good token remover.

>>51850830
Doran is my fucking BOY
I love the buttbreathing deck I made with him. It stomps 1v1 but unfortunately it's very susceptible to getting hated out

>>51858821
>>51858712
It's also besties with Sands of Time

>>51858770
>>51858776
Oh yeah I forgot, when a permanent phases out, it takes anything that is attached to it (equipment and auras) with it, and then they return when that permanent phases back in.

>>51858864
fun fact, even though phasing isn't changing zones, tokens still stop existing if they fade out. So if you phase a token with equipment on it out, the token will stop existing and the equipment will never phase back in.

>>51858870
Probably gunslinger, or kingdom, or whatever it's called where you play.

http://imgur.com/a/MK8d3

>>51856869
springleaf drum is a cheap one

>>51856869

Pemmins Aura, Freed from the Real?

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>>51858302
How do you want your format family?

>>51858206
ancient tomb
sol ring
mana vault
fellwar stone
show and tell
omniscience
enter the infinite

>>51859444
I am crying it's too beautiful and hilarious

>>51859444
What a hand, trips confirms

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>friend invites new guy to our group
>new guy has decks that range from generally unfun shit play against and phage
>acts smug while playing and constantly says "in response..." to anything that is not a land is played by anyone even when he he can't do anything or has nothing in hand
>gets pissy if his shit gets countered or destroyed before he can combo out
>refuses to let anyone cut his deck

Should I give him a chance or do players like him rarely change?

>>51859444
>show and tell
>fellwar stone
>turn 1

I am somewhat doubtful unless you didn't go first

>>51859788
sounds like he's just a dick, desu the only way you'll probably be his friend is if you coddle him and ley him win. alternativley aggrohim nd try to make him blow up so he stops coming

>>51859788
>refuses to let anyone cut his deck
>>>/out/

>>51859788
Talk to him about it, never hurts to act like an adult and solve things civilly

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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/xenagos-god-of-beatdowns-3/
I need 5 cuts for my Xenagos deck, 2 to get the decksize down to 100 and 3 to put in Combustible Gearhulk, Kozilek's Return and Rishkar's Expertise. What should I take out?

>>51850830
>What's your favourite midrange beater?
I would have to say at the moment is is Odric, Lunarch Marshal.
>What makes a midrange creature good enough for EDH?
To make a midrange good enough for EDH I think it should be a not too spooky but spooky enough creature, one that left unchecked can turn the game sideways.

>>51851258
>
Melira, Sylvok Outcast for your mono green, built her persist/infect control.

Baral, Chief of Compliance for the guy who likes mother may I.

>>51851500
>What are your biggest pet peeves DURING a game?
When someone just lumps all of their board together and doesn't seperate lands, artifacts and creatures. (I kill him on sight)

>>51851790
>UG decks to be boring. Suggestions?
Make a deck based around Form of the Dragon.

>>51853571
I annouce my cards when I cast them even if everyone is tapped out just so people know that something is happening.

>>51854269
Maybe an 7 or so, can't miss not "may" triggers, but you are allowed to tap your mana to count for something (as a visual aid) and you untap it before you actually cast the spell. (And you let us know what you are doing.)

>>51854666
Riku of Two Reflections or Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker.

>>51856869
Cryptolith Rite

>>51859788
>refuses to let anyone cut his deck
Out him from playing until he allows you to.
> constantly says "in response..." to anything that is not a land
Convince your playgroup to do the same to him repeatedly.
>shit gets countered or destroyed before he can combo out
Make a deck specifically to do this to him, repeatedly.

By any chance is his name Marty?

Or listen to this guy.
>>51859868

>>51859788
If someone won't let you cut their deck, they're cheating. Next time you play him, ask to shuffle his deck, then bust out the old "if you aren't cheating, you wouldn't care. Neutral third party can shuffle it."

>>51850830
Janky Enchanted Evening + Cleansing Meditation combo.

Yes or no?

>>51859990
Better to just use Aura Thief.

>>51860018
Thief has to go to the graveyard though and I don't foresee running a reliable sac outlet in enchantress, especially since I am playing bant.

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>>51860055
Always, ALWAYS, put a self-destruct button on your shit, bud.

On a related note:
>mfw opponent takes control of my turn and forgets I have a claws of gix out

>>51860137
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/jenaras-bant-enchantress/

What kind of a button would you suggest? I still have one slot to fill (was thinking auratog or more enchantment recursion) but I am open to ideas

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So, is this guy worth building around? I feel like some goofy build with Conspiracy/Xenograft could be kinda fun.

>>51860228
play some changelings and boardwipe whoever you attack

>>51859809
i went 3rd

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I am looking for feedback on my Queen Marchesa (long may she reign) control build.

Is there anything spicy or super strong that I missed?

>http://decks.deckedbuilder.com/d/278661

>>51859788
I get uncomfortable letting others shuffle my $4000 EDH decks, but if someone asks to cut then you don't decline.

How did the topic of cutting arise in the first place though?

>>51859788
just kick him out until he lets someone cut his deck. If that doesn't say cheating idk what does

>>51860167
Claws of Gix isn't an absolutely superb card, but it is a decent catch-all. Prevents your shit from being stolen, and at least you gain some life off of boardwipes

>>51851798
How does this work when players do shit during other players turns? Do you stop the clock? Start the other players clock? How about resolving complicated spells, like warp world, living death and scrambleverse?

>>51860309
>http://decks.deckedbuilder.com/d/278661
[ T A P P E D O U T ]
that website doesn't have autoscroll and I don't have everything memorized enough to give you answers with out clicking every link.

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>>51859912
Bump

>>51856642
>how do you know he's mana screwed

Don't worry he'll tell you.

>>51860304
How do you deal with a Woodfall Primus, Ashen Rider, or an opposing Omniscience?
I also run Kruphix with most of the cards you listed minus the Felwar and SnT. I wouldn't dare try it myself. Is it as much of a crapshoot as it sounds?

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>>51851500
When someone spends ten minutes on their turn and all they accomplished was playing a land.

>>51858386
Aurelia is a better voltron commander, stop being bad.

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>>51860167
I'd also like to ask for some more feedback please! I want to add Auratog, a piece of recursion and at least a Beast Within but will need to cuts for it. Have a cute Elesh Norn in return.

On an unrelated topic, how important is for a deck to stay on theme and not deviate into tricks? Say, in my deck I run 2 pieces of countermagic and some goodstuff like eWitness and Sun Titan. Is this a good idea or should I have just kept jamming enchantments/protection in?

>>51860534
I mean, it seems nice but it is an artifact which doesn't do much outside of giving you some value for mana during a boardwipe/exile protection in a deck which otherwise doesn't care about artifacts.

I think Auratog or Beast within can actually do it in a pinch but the former is convoluted and the latter - inefficient.

>>51860721
To true.

>>51860652
Asceticism
Runes of the Deus
Khalni Heart Expedition
Bear Umbra
Frontier Siege

>>51860909
Sakura tribe Elder
Awakening Zone
Phyrexian Metamorph

>>51860909
2 pieces of countermagic in a 100 deck seems bad, but I don't think anyone would fault you for running Witness and Sun Titan if you could.

>>51860953
this but keep Bear Umbra, take out Ulrich.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/hatefxxkgutterpunk/
need budget RW options.

>>51861034
Alternatively you can keep in Awakening Zone and condense Phyrexian Metamorph and Copy Enchantment into Clever Impersonator. Or keep Copy Enchantment and axe Awakening Zone.

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Which is better for mono black?

>>51861148

It seems extraordinarily unlikely that you'd cast Revelation for four cards or more, which is what you'd need to do for it to be better than the other one.

>>51861148
my vote is for Revelation, more versatility and I like the art more but both are pretty

>>51861112
>Clever Impersonator
This seems like a cool idea albeit a bit mana intensive. I will do that and play around with land ratios to sustain UU.

>>51861034
My problem is that both Awakening and Elder are ramp pieces. Say I ax them, I will be then running 36 lands + Nature's Lore, Sol Ring, Land Tax, Burgeoning, Utopia Sprawl and Abundant Growth (+Bear Umbra and Mirrari's Wake at high end) for acceleration. Doesn't it seem kinda unreliable?

Don't get me wrong - I am all up for axing ramp in favour of actual cards but I also want the deck to remain consistent

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>>51861177
Revalation cost one more but lets you tutor for less in a pinch and doesn't make you trash your hand, if you're reanimator or something then behold might be better but usually in mono B you're drawing tons and don't neccasarily wanna ditch your whole grip

>>51856869
paradise mantle makes it easy.

>>51861035
I assume you mean that 2 pieces is too few. What is your preferred number of counters in a non-counter focused deck? Should I scrap them entirely and instead run recursion/more hexproof?

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>>51860309
>>51860586
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/queen-marchesa-long-may-she-reign-control/

>>51861148
Revelation, one more mana and you can keep your hand

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Is Zedruu decent?
I don't expect to win tournaments but i don't want to get bullied playing friends and random people.

Also what's the best to way to go about this deck?
There are so many versions of it.

>>51861148
>>51861177
I think it depends. Are you running Big Black Mana with plenty of ways to tutor for urborg/cabal coffers? If so I'd run Revelation. In pretty much any other case barring something like BGx Ramp i'd run Behold the Beyond.

But I feel they're both pretty flawed since in a competitive meta you shouldn't be able to make it to that much mana with out the game being essentially over and in a non-competive/casual meta you probably shouldn't be tutoring and if you are you def shouldn't be running a tutor that essentially reads "put your 2 to 4 card combo in your hand and win next turn."

But I guess it comes down to a matter of play group.

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I NEED CREATURES

CREATURES THAT GO WELL WITH SIDAR

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post fun cards

:^)

>>51860953
Remove Asceticism?
Is it because it gets removed too fast?

>>51861364
44 to chose from in this link:

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&power=+%3C=[2]&text=+[when]+[combat]+[damage]+[player]&color=|[W]|[G]

>>51861364
Who are you partnering him with?

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>>51861414
>blinding angel

>>51861382
No, its because you don't need it as much as you think you do. Removal and boardwipes can be played mitigated with smart play.

Kraum, i want access to U/R

>>51861501
meant for
>>51861424

>>51861265
We can Compare
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/queen-marcheezys-super-prison/

The only things I'd say you're missing are assemble the legion and lapse of certainty. You might want to put exsanguinate/debt to the deathless in just as a wincon/ohshit! button.

Also like your sunforger package and support. You could always run a copy of mistviel plains to return instants from the yard to the library so you can reuse them sunfforger but that gets stupid expensive mana wise.

All of my suggestions are just personal prefference. You're deck looks good over all. I don't think you're really missing any mardu staples.

>>51861227
Awakening zone is weak ramp. It has its uses but your deck is fairly low to the ground to begin with. I don't feel good about cutting Elder but I don't feel bad about it either. I tend to run low land counts myself but ensure my land drops through light ramp (which you seem to have, even without the aforementioned cards) and a pile of card draw and filtering (which you don't have a lot of). That may be skewing my perception of what can be accomplished with such a low land count but my deck also has a higher curve than yours. Still, without playing your deck to get a feel for it, I would try cutting the cards mentioned.

>>51861364
Do the Doran/C16 Naga and Sidar thing where you do big butts tribal. Sidar gives them evasion, Naga heals you based on toughness, and doran does damage based on toughness for all creatures. Behind the scenes as back up plan. Murder your opponents with unblockable Yoked Oxen and Tassled Dromedaries.

>>51861148
Do you want to bin cards? Run Beyond.
Do you want to keep cards in hand? Run Revelation.

Additionally: Tutoring for anything more than one card at a time is silly and often unnecessary with smart play.

What strategies am I missing amongst decks I own? I currentyl have a deck dedicated to each of
>Voltron
>Reanimator
>Control
>KillSpells
>Ramp
>Big, beatin' dudes
>Combo
>Alternate wincon / a bit of all above strategies

Additionally, if anyone has a good esper / bant commander to support a strategy I'm not using yet, I'm all ears

>>51861786
Eggs
Tribal
Sen Triplets nigga.dec

>>51861786
S T A X
T
A
X

>>51861786
STAX
PRISON
PRISON/STAX

What the hell can I do to stand a chance against people who have expensive lands when I have very little money?

>>51861825
ATRAXA PRISON STAX

>>51861839
Mono color my son.

>>51861839
Ask them to play a lower power deck or find a group that suits your power level, if the difference is that backbreaking.

I play budget duals and tap lands against decks with OG duals and Cradles and Im usually alright, just a turn or two behind

>>51861839
Blood Moon
Ruination
Fulminator Mage
Ghost Quarter
Volcanic Offering

>>51861646
Well I kinda do get card draw - that's the whole point of running 6 enchantresses and low curve.

What I will do I think is cut the zone and if I later find in testing that I am often mana-starved, I will just add a kodama's reach or carpet of flowers.

By the way, what do you think of countermagic in my deck? Worth keeping at least some? Increasing to 3-4 pieces? Cutting in favour of recursion/more enchantments?

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>>51861839
Non-basic land hate, expensive as well but a fraction of the cost compared

Mono color decks

desu unless they're playing super fast combo decks being one or two turns behind isn't taht bad in EDH anyway nd if that's the case land ain't the issue you're having

>>51861839
Go mono like >>51861860 said, or get fakes, which would still probably run you 50 buks, but it'd be 50 for a full land base.

>>51861839
Try getting the slow fetches from Mirage like Bad river and grasslands. Also the have lands from Battle for Zendikar, they have both land types like shocks and true duals

>>51861860
But if I play green I have to have craterhoof, if I play white I have to make a lock down thalia deck which has a handful of expensive cards, if I play blue I have to get jace, the debt sculptor and true-name nemesis, and I have no idea what red and black look like

>>51861864
I have no idea what's going on, I played tarkir standard and bought packs instead of singletons like a moron, then quit out of frustration until I found out that a format called edh exists, but it's arguably just as bad. I looked up decks but I don't know if it's possible to win without paying like $10 for a piece of fucking cardboard

>>51861880
Blood moon isn't cheap

>>51861839
Not shilling, but TCGplayer has Strip Mines as low as $5.07 + shipping

>>51861938
Norin the Wary + Impact Tremors Tribal

>>51861887
On the subject of countermagic, a few peices don't seem bad, perhaps not what your deck wants to be doing though. I don't play white, much less enchantment based strategies so my assessment of your deck has been entirely theoretical and this is an area that I feel uncertain. I wouldn't put to much in for fear of diluting your decks strategy but a few couldn't hurt. Perhaps not more than four and that's just gut feeling.

>>51861938
Just the first thing that came to mind. The rest are affordable tho. Hey, maybe Wizards will go insane and reprint Blood Moon in MM '17. Who knows?

>>51861938
You don't HAVE to do anything more than put in time and effort. The path is long and the hill is steep.

>>51862032
>>51861948
>>51861909
>>51861880
Are you saying the cheapest strategy is blowing up lands? What color does that best?

>>51862066
Red. Build Depala dwarf tribal with lots of land destruction - you get access to all the best one in Boros

>>51861938
Why don't you buy a Commander 2016 or any of them for that matter? A lot of them are pretty well put together and do well right out of the box. You can buy one online or at like Walmart or lgs for half the cost of a cheap edh deck. Find one with a commander or theme you like

>>51862066
Red followed by white

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How do I stop my opponents from fucking me over in the three turns before it swings back to me?

>>51862083
flash her in b4 your turn

>>51862066
Red. Black's got some good old ones too in Sinkhole and Icequake. I dunno if $8+ for Sinkhole is out of your budget on a single.

>>51862083
Teferi, Leyline of anticipation, VEdelkn orrey

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>>51861938
>I don't know if it's possible to win without paying like $10 for a piece of fucking cardboard
I will tell you right now, you will not have a good time with Magic if you have this attitude. You cannot hope to have a competitive deck if you won't go over $10 on a card.
"This shit's just cardboard" is reductive and can be applied to literally any hobby. Yes, you can play on the cheap and casually, but you better find a like-minded table.

>I played tarkir standard and bought packs instead of singletons
>I found out that a format called edh exists, but it's arguably just as bad
Yikes. This is just plain stupid. You paid for enough packs to brew decks with, and you can't put down a few bucks on staples that you'll use all the time? Just fucking buy lottery tickets.

>>51862025
Looking at your list again, I would like to revise that to not more than 2. The ones you have are light and don't get in the way while having a surprise factor. Best not to dilute your deck with countermagic.

>>51862121
>not what the fuck am I investigating

I basically never play white. What's a white-based deck that's fun to play and doesn't suck? It doesn't need to be mono white, just no more than two colors and the white isn't a splash.

>>51862080
>buying a pre-made thing made by wizards of the coast
I learned my lesson already, basic decks and packs are dogshit.

>>51862121
See the first part of this post

>>51862157
>disdain for peasants

>>51862128
Yeah that was the plan. I actually did the unthinkable and cut the Counterspell in favour of the Arcane Denial because the latter is only one U and replaces itself. I need them for a surprise factor and to counter a game-ending enchantment wipe if Enchanted Evening/Karmic Justice are not out.

So far I did this
> - Sakura Tribe
> - Awakening Zone
> +Retether (since my auras are more likely to die)
> +Auratog
> +Beast Within

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>>51861938
There are more affordable choices and you may be imagining a much higher barrier than there actually is. JTMS isn't as good in a multiplayer game and true-name nemesis isn't always an auto-include. If you're looking specifically at destroying lands, then RG might be a good combo to look into since you can combine red's nonbasic land hate, like ruination, with green's basic land ramp to keep yourself ahead.

>>51862083
I got you senpai.

>>51862174
That is generally true but the precon edh decks provide a legit base for you to build on. Just progressively replace cards until that knife is a cannon.

>>51862174
Bro there commander decks are actually solid as fuck, it's the one pre-made deck I'd ever suggest buying and I'm pretty sure everyone else will agree, it is the best bang for your buck with EDH and comes with great staples like sol ring and decent lands.

>>51862174
If you'd take a second to look at any of the commander precons you'd see that's not the case

>>51862157
Changed, thank you.

>>51862158
https://edhrec.com/
Go to the 2 color section, pick one that looks fun to you.

>>51861938
literally retarded. Calm your booty tickled ass, play magic, have fun, cry less.

If you aren't having fun with the hobby maybe it isn't for you. If you don't like the format, maybe it isn't for you.

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>>51862174
>Buy Commander 2016 Breya
>Add Goblin guide
>Proceed to outright devastate and outvalue properly built but not turbo competitive custom decks at my LGS, drawing enough salt to add B/W to my mana pool

If there is any out-of-the-box MtG -product that is worth buying it's commander precons. Most if not all of them are at least playable and at best - quite good. From there on you can proceed to slowly add and expand the list, eventually turning it into your own thing.

But, judging from your earlier disdainful post, I don't think that's what you want. I am not sure you even want to play the game if you moan about paying money for cardboard. As the other guy said, this can be applied to literally any hobby.

>>51862278
*correction, not Goblin Guide but Goblin Welder. Why the fuck would I add a goblin guide to an EDH deck

>>51862278
>Goblin Guide
I assume you mean welder lmao

Not sure what to make my next commander. I currently have Newzuri and Angry Omnath, and wouldn't want to splurge on expensive cards.

Ruhan of the Fomori
+ aggressive in the "sorry but I have to attack someone" way
+ RW has a lot of combat utility spells I've wanted to try like Boros Charm and Deflecting Palm, but the U would give me a little control if I needed it
- may get himself killed
- even a 7/7 may be lackluster late game after multiple summons without any positive extra abilities

Arjun, the Shifting Flame
+ not an obvious threat like either of my 2 current commanders, so unlikely to get focus fired
+ lets me dig for that one spell I need by letting me cycle through many hands' worth of cards via cantrips
+ potential mill or Lab Man wins
- high CMC
- little combat presence/deterrence

Ruric Thar
+ hilarious
+ ruins other people's masturbatory combos
+ aggressive in the "sorry but I have to attack someone" way
- high CMC
- may get focus fired by people who want to combo

Gaddock Teeg
+ ruins many plans by completely blocking many/most dangerous artifacts, enchantments, and instants/sorceries
+ could maybe run as a goofy (although suboptimal) elfball given that he blocks boardwipes
- may just be unfun to play against

>>51862158
see>>51851813

>>51862278
You can play 4 colors without a bunch of steam vent looking things?

>>51862310
Thar or Teeg get my vote

>>51862202
Cheers bruv. I hope those changes work out for you.

>>51862326
it gives you some cards you can use.

That's why it's a precon.

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>>51862278
>drawing enough salt to add B/W
I get it

>>51862158
GW with recursion and ETB effects with Karametra or Saffi.
WU enchantments with Hana.

>>51862340
But why? Have you played with or against them? Any experience or suspicions?

>>51862326
Sure. Will it be super fast, efficient and capable of turn 3-6 kills? Not a chance.

Will it be fun enough to play with friends at your LGS provided that they are not spikes? Definitely.

Will it be strong to actually win games in a while? Certainly.

And the best thing is that each precon has a different thing about it. Don't want to recur my battlesphere until everyone gets sick of you? Play the Gay Greek Precon, which is a """friendy""" group hug/pillowfort deck that is still fun to play. You get the idea.

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>>51862385
I've played against Thar with both stompy and an enchantments matters deck. His effect is annoying but he's overall fair and makes me less worried about some of the more Spikey players at the table.

No experience with Teeg but the idea of hatebears tribal seems fun. It also encourages the use of my favorite card.

>>51861364

Build him with Ikra and make a deck around assault formation or toss him together with Tana an get tokens.

Is TappedOut borked for anyone else?

>>51862469
it is broked

>>51854661
>Line slinger not in garbage
>anya and basandra in garbage

Whew

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GREETINGS, EDH GENERAL!

I HAIL FROM THE LAND OF OVERLOOKED POLITICAL SECRET TECH

I HAVE A LOW CMC AND CAN FIT IN ANY DESK, SO WHY AREN'T YOU RUNNING ME?

What does /tg/ use to hold your double sleeved edh decks? Considering one of those long white card storage boxes.

Also, I bought the gay dudes edh deck but can't think of a way to build it that won't just help everybody more than me. I usually play combo decks (Jeleva storm, Tasigur combo control, Breya eggs, Meren stax) but I'm looking for something a bit different and hopefully more fun to play with my friends.

Zedruu seems like the best group hug deck, although I did try Pheldagriff Oath of Druids with a wincon being Suture Priest but it never worked out.

>>51861620

>assemble the legion
At the moment I am using Chandra, Flamecaller in what would be the slot, sure the numbers are nice but I like her burst.

>lapse of certainty
It is a good card, but I will say no for now since I just came from playing a few decks that abused counterspells.

>exsanguinate/debt to the deathless
Would probably be Debt if I feel I need the burst win, but my meta isn't really life centric so Exsanguinate might do for now, maybe take out Phryxian arena, it is a good card but it hasn't felt as strong as it could be since I do what I can to cheat cards into play/into hand with tutors and such.

>run a copy of mistviel plains
I already am, the 4 mana to get the spell I need to survive is a small price to pay.

Thank you for your feedback and suggestions, will take a bit before I can get games in with the change here and there but I hope they work out.

>>51861674

Do this. Just make sure you have plenty of tutors for Doran and Assault Formation. Also be sure to have Aetherflux Resevoir and Necropotence for that sweet sweet lifegain payoff.

>>51862642
ultra pro satin tower has been breddy gud for me

I'd link you my gay kangz but tapped out is down atm

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>>51862642
1) ultrapro satin tower (pic related)

2) build the kings as turbo pillowfort with helix pinnacle as the win con. Play like a doomsday prepper.

Literally just sit around with propaganda, solitary confinement, sphere of safety, and sterling grove until you can tutor out the helix pinnacle, watch other decks kill each other, and eventually pay 100 mana to win. Do not run any group hug other than your commander.

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>>51858530
I try to buy in bursts under of 10 dollars. Banefire is for Mizzix. Green sleeves are Atraxa. Unsure if I want to keep life//death in the deck.

Next purchase is mostly atraxa parts and then next will be some paintings.

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>>51862758
>paintings
Man, that would probably be a better investment than this drug substitute.

I meant pain lands.

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>>51862642

>>51862799
>enchantment: 7