Pathfinder General /pfg/

Who are your favorite applicants in Wrath of the Raunchy? Who would you want on your team?

How do I become a meme?

>First session of my new campaign
>Party is on an airship, going about the decks
>One PC is gambling, another is smuggling food into his shirt, another is minding her own business at a table while the fourth is up on the main deck
>Captain announces that they're headed for a storm and requests that everyone return to their rooms
>Three hours later, the captain announces that the ship is going down and everyone should brace for impact
>The female PC goes to the top deck and sees there is a large hole in the airship and deduces that a fireball impacted with it
>Launches herself off the ship, relying on a trinket with featherfall on it to guide her to safety
>As the airship careens towards the surface, she sees another fireball come flying out of the forest and crash into the ship again
>As she lands, the ship explodes, and she manages to find the other PCs alive but unconscious
>As she wakes them up, the natives in the forest find them and take them back to their village
>The party learns that some of the hunters have reported seeing the dead walking about in the forest and are asked to handle it as the tribe venerate the dead and cannot bring themselves to harm their ancestors' bodies
>Party makes their way through the forest, fighting some skeletons, and come across a cave that is magically sealed
>A strange, masked man confronts them and tells them that the necromancer they seek has already fled and that the trees themselves cry out for justice

And then the game ended because my computer decided to restart.

How did your last session go?

>The Pathfinder Vices site has sexual alignments and a fetish chart
Goddamn that last thread making me look into this. I can't resist roll charts, all my characters from now on are going to have weird fetishes.

>>51808727
Make a lot of homebrew, it worked for DHB.

>>51808737
Post the charts or a link.

>>51808727
Samefag a lot

>>51808755
http://carnal.orfinlir.de/3_kinks.php

I wonder what "Young People" means in context of my Dhampir.

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That is an extremely subtle and sneaky kitsune in the OP thumbnail.

Is that OP thumbnail what a kitsune using Disguise looks like to the untrained eye?

>>51808690
He's more of a tokusatsu otaku kind of man, constantly trying to pose and speechify and make sure his red scarf (the truest sign of main character-hood) is blowing in the wind just right

>>51808727
Make a waifu.

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>>51808770

It means you should be very careful in the Santa Carla area.

>>51808737

What happened to the chart that lit the General on fire a few months ago?

>>51808770
>Frets
Bone

>Fetishes
Soldiers
Outdoors
Rough Sex

Oh my

>>51808800
>subtle
>has GIANT, OBVIOUS EARS on her head

that's not what subtle means

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>>51808860
But can you see them in the OP thumbnail?

>>51808860

Clearly, you've never had any experience with wereboar assassins, then.

>>51808847
I really want to see this but I don't want the thread to go to shit right off the bat. Should I just search "fetish chart" in the archives?

>>51808690
I'm playing alongside a Harbinger, actually, but myself?

Well a long time ago I wanted to play a Dhampir Antipaladin/Oracle to replicate a WoW Death Knight.

I kinda still do, but it'd have to be a campaign where LE was allowed.

>>51808895

Hold on, let me find it for you.

>>51808895
Too late

http://i.imgur.com/yhyU3dS.jpg

>>51808895

Abandon hope, all ye who enter this link.

http://i.imgur.com/F8HU9Lk.jpg

Rolled 3, 7 = 10 (2d10)

>>51808929
Here we go!

>>51808947
>>51808929
>>51808895

Oh, and to provide warning as to how the rolling works.

You roll for five separate fetishes.

Let's say my character is a Lawful Good Paladin, which means 1d10+2. I roll and get an 8, which means I got a 10 total. I consult the left of the table which says I go to Table A. I roll again and get a 9, which means the 9th fetish on Table A, virginity. I do this four more times.

>>51808992
>3-1=2: Table F
>Option 7

Brainwash. Not bad.

What are some good places to look for character art? Google images just doesn't cut it for obvious reasons, and deviantart is, well, itself.

>>51808994
>Femdom
>Shortstacks
>Autoerotic Asphyxiation
>Humiliation
>Necrophilia
There seems to be some kind of theme here.

>>51809017

Well, that kind of depends on the sort of character art you're looking for, I think.

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Rolled 5, 6, 1, 2, 4, 6, 9, 8, 8, 9 = 58 (10d10)

>>51808929
>>51808947
>this is where we're going to end up for a thread
Might as well roll with it. I pick a CN meme character, fuck me up senpai.

Fist 5 for table, last 5 for position on table

>>51809017

Go to Character Art threads and start building up your collection.

Figure out your favorite video game characters and look for character art of them, I recommend checking out Dark Souls concept art.

What are you *looking* for, senpai? I can give you what you need.

>>51808947
Post it, link isn't working.

>>51809017
gelbooru. If you're allergic to porn, safebooru scrapes the SFW stuff from gelbooru.

>>51809017
Character art threads (>>51799347) are a good place to start. Particularly if you have a character in mind because anons will take requests.

I'm sorry thread. I'm so fucking sorry. I was curious and I killed us. Please forgive me please forgive me please forgive me.

>>51808690
I always wind up playing Good or Lawful characters, with varying other alignments. So my next is going to be a CE or NE tiefling brat who wants to get revenge on the world that never cared for her. Her sentient sword cares. It doesn't want her to wind up that way, and will be trying to turn her neutral or CN eventually.

>>51809038

You'd be surprised how consistent the kinks tend to develop.

>>51809049

Ohoho, clever girl! You want me to post it and make this slide into depravity a straight up push.

>>51808690
>How chuunibyou/edgelordy are your characters? Do any of them embrace the darkness, walk the path between shadow and light, or teleport behind enemies for katana stabs?
I made a super-dickwad ronin mercenary once, who killed people because he liked it. He wasn't particularly sadistic, just murderous, and discovered that as a mercenary/assassin with a simple contract, you get to kill people and get money for it instead of pursued by law enforcement. He unironically used "Nothin' personal" regularly. He was also apt to call other people on their bullshit, you're just as awful as I am, blah, blah, blah.
The DM told everyone to make characters who weren't "good guys". Naturally, my NE fighter wound up being the only killer in a group of thieves and totally morally ambiguous, I promise CN types.
Hilariously, my character wasn't the one to turn on the party. The guy who stole everything because it was in character, but was like Robin Hood turned first, followed by the "no ethics" wizard. Nothin' Personal'd both of 'em. He was the only character of the group to survive the whole campaign, largely because of his pragmatic approach to fucking people over.

>>51809041

Enema, Inflation, Creampie, and double violence.

Anon...

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>>51808947
>transformation, inanimate, and brainwash fall under the NE chart

Help.

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>>51809067
never, this is the path you chose, and it's a nightmare

>>51809041
>>51809096
Anon you didn't follow what he said, but I suppose that's for the best, because it was worse. Enema, Creampie, Castration, Bestiality, Inflation

can we burn this thread down and start over?

>>51808929
>Incest
>Disease
>Irrutio
>Rape
>Gore

Pretty far off except rape, and possibly incest.

>>51809198
>>51809201
>You could end up in WotR or TA with one of these degenerate characters
TREAD LIGHTLY ANON.

Rolled 6, 7, 4, 9, 3, 7, 7, 4, 9, 7 = 63 (10d10)

>>51808929
for LN, first half are for column, second half are for row

>>51808947
>>51808994
>CN Fighter
>Armpits
>Bukkake
>Irrumatio
>Incest
>Younger partners
I'm not quite sure what to make of this.

>>51809304
>Submission
>Submission
>Delayed Orgasm
>Virginity
>Crossdressing

Wow that sounds like my ex.

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>>51809297
I was thinking of applying to those for kicks, but am afraid I'd end up getting accepted to them even though I'm only applying for meme purposes. It's happened before.

>>51808947
>CE cannot have a fetish for deflowering virgins
Otherwise I guess this might be helpful for building a character, even if it probably shouldn't directly come up in most games.

>>51809396

I've been accepted into every game I've applied a meme character with.

It's like they KNOW.

So! Character themes! Got a good one? Got one you'd like to use? Let's hear it!

https://youtu.be/O_zz18hx4IU

>>51809396
I applied for kicks and hadn't actually considered the possibility that I might have to play until now. Shit.

>>51809428

I've got some songs!

>>51809428
I can't make up my mind but this one probably fits for the first arc of the campaign

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov0lPEJ5qQg

>>51809446
IT'S MORE LIKELY THAN YOU THINK. This is why your meme characters should always still be something you would want to play, to some degree.

>>51809428
Fly By Night by Rush is a perfect song for most any adventurer
https://youtu.be/nEVDZl5UvN4

>>51809428

Ooh, let me ride the coattails of this question!

Does anyone have a theme they plan to use for a Taldor Ascendant character? If a Druma merchant campaign came up, what would you use?

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>>51809428
Combat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JsWAGGGimQ
Quiet Moments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VmRv8_vWjA

did starjammer just get released?

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>>51808873
Yes. It's what made me open the thread.

>>51809428

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyBfKngXtHU

I don;t care if the game is weeb as hell, the flute and violins make up for it.

Rolled 10, 6, 1, 9, 10, 5, 6, 4, 2, 9 = 62 (10d10)

>>51808929
>http://i.imgur.com/yhyU3dS.jpg
Don't mind me, I'm just rolling for DHB's paladin.

>>51809489
>IT'S MORE LIKELY THAN YOU THINK

My App for RotJR was purely there to fuck with all the Ameiko shippers. I never intended to play.

Rolled 11, 4 = 15 (2d12)

>>51809707
>Roleplaying, Inflation, Specific Race, Fat Fetishism, Stigmatophilia

I see.

>>51809695

That is an incredibly cute fox-girl!

>>51809749

And yet here you are, playing! You lucky rascal you.

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>>51809750
>Tengu
>Hair
>DHB's paladin is into fat birbs with colored hair

Huh

>>51809428
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e0PEng-6ag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kwKogno3dk

I ran a Kobold illusionist a while back who regularly did scouting runs of dungeons and trapped the shit out of them and preloaded illusions. Some traps that had triggers flippable by Prestigidation, some were more simple proximity based, and there were others that were more elaborate.
One of these two was usually playing.

>want to make a cleric that worships a qlippoth lord
>none of them besides maybe the one have nearly enough info on them to work with
fug

>>51809830
Rovagug is a qlippoth probably.

Anyone got any pictures of rondlero duelists?

>>51809830
Clerics of Robadob are cool though.

>>51808690
All my characters tend to end up chuu2 in some way

...This is mainly my fault because I am quite a chuu2 in real life and this transfers over to RP style

On the other hand, I am playing a blaster Arcanist now who I intentionally and shamelessly based on Megumin

>>51809830
Dig into supplements, there's so much information that none of the threeish wikis keep that might be useful.

Out of the non-core(Human, Elf, Dwarf, Half-Elf, Half-Orc, Gnome, Halfling, Aasimar, Tiefling), which races do you guys think tend to be overall good as a race in general?

I am talking like, Strix, Kitsune, Tengu and stuff

>>51809942
>aasimar/tiefling
>core
what?

>>51809830
Qlippoth generally hate being worshipped by mortals, since they both hate mortal souls as well as have a nasty problem with turning into Demon Lords if they get worshipped too much

>>51809971
In the sense they were in 3/3.5e and were mainly just ported over to PF

Ah damn I just shot myself in the foot

>>51809942
Suli are nice
Tengu get plenty of good options
Ratfolk are cool and also get good options
Shabti are neat and interesting even though they get little support
And I always have a soft spot for Skinwalkers and Kobolds

>>51809973
Do we have any qlippoth-evolved demon lords in evidence so far?
If so, what are they supposed to think of their old lives and their new powers?

>>51809942
Personally I only need humans, elves, half-elves and half-orcs. Maybe gnomes.

I never really liked dwarves and halflings because it feels like any concept you cook up for one of them could be played out by a human. Even the half-human races have a more distinct "culture" you know?

>>51808929
>small tits/dick
>domination
>younger partners
>Bukkake
>Magical Beasts
oh boy

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>>51809942
Aasimar and Tieflings are non-core.

As for the rest?
>Kitsune are actually mechanically amazing now unfortunately, even though their fluff is shit (can be +Dex/Cha or +Dex/Int, can have +1 Skill/level or turn into a tiny creature at level 1)
>Skinwalkers are neat and have some really cool options (witchwolf is CRAZY GOOD, holy shit) but outside of some specific things are kind of weak and janky
>If you have a custom setting where goblins aren't little balloons of shitty memes, Goblins would actually be a pretty good small race
>Tengu are pretty cool but got shafted super hard in the area of Racial feats and alternate racial traits compared to kitsune, which sucks because they're far superior
>Catfolk are only good if you want to optimize for lowest will save waifu possible
>Lizardfolk? They're a thing right? They didn't really have much going for them, but they were pretty solid.

>>51810043
I think it's been stated that Jubilex was a Qlippoth once
in terms of whatit thinks of it's past life, I don't thin Jubilex thinks very much in general.

>>51810043
The Bestiary 2 mentions that Dagon and Jubilex were once Qlippoth Lords, and that most of the nonhumanoid Demon Lords were Qlippoth Lords once as well.
As for their mindset on their old life vs their new one, nothing much is written.

>>51809942
All of the genie kin are amazing.

Especially Oreads

ESPECIALLY Sylphs

>>51809942
Goblinoids, Orcs, Kobolds, Ratfolk.

>>51810107
>>51810122
See, that'd be kind of interesting to actually see a writeup of Dagon's mindset.

Does he have a ton of self-loathing, hating what he's become?
Is he enjoying his new self, and violently lashing out at any sign of qlippoth influence?
Does he have any particular insights on the nature of the abyss, if he remembers how his mind used to work?
What does he think, really, of mortal races besides "their souls taste good"?

>>51809942
Samsaran are the most bullshit caster race.
Skinwalker bats are fucking annoyingly good too, since they start with flight.

I'll note that Lashunta are interesting because of their unique racial bonuses. You don't see Str paired with Int anywhere else, and I'm not sure about Int and Cha either. Males are one, females are the other.

Tengu are sometimes liked for the free proficiencies, but unless you're using both the racial attribute bonuses, I don't see how it's better than human or half-elf which can also get them. (none of those are good options with the existence of cracked Opalescent White Pyramid ioun stones)

>>51810220
Emberkin Aasimar have +Int/Cha

>>51809428
This is what I'm using while I'm working on my Taldor character - it's a nice combination of sweet love song and DEUS VULT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8YOoQ-Py88

>>51810103
Lizardfolk are just statistically solid for melee characters. +2 Str, +2 Con with no drawback stat, a swim speed, 2 natural armor, and 3 starting natural attacks.

They don't draw much attention because nothing they have is special in a vacuum, but the combination is rare.

>>51810280
Hobgoblins are much of the same thing

>>51810280

Gnolls pack the same stats and natural armor, but get Darkvision. No natural attacks though, except for the Snapping Jaws feat.

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>>51809297
Nah, I was referring to a character I'm already running. Pic related. None of those are my personal fetishes at all.

What Taldor game is being mentioned here? Is it open?

>>51810444
Dead Game, don't bother.

>>51809152
What is this from?

>>51808994
>Spanking
>Specific Race: Elf
>Spanking +
>Specific Race: Elf +
>Oral

My character really likes getting spanked by middle aged elves... and afterward, oral.

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I want to play as a half-dragon, half-elf teenage Occultist packrat girl who uses her childhood toys from a century ago as implements.

By the way, how can I stat out a half-elf, half-dragon? Do I just wanna take the dragon trait for half-elves? What other dragon stuff is there for playing a half-dragon, or at least being fluffed as one?

Wait why the fuck isn't investigator proficient in any armor? Is this some oversight? A lot of the class is for fighting in melee.

>>51810579
be cause D E X I N T buddy.

>>51810579
Light armor is good enough in 80% of cases.

>>51810579
Wait nevermind, I was reading the wrong tab and am retarded.

>>51810528
Look into Wyveran for Half - Dragons or ideas around making your own.

You could also do what you mentioned if you want.

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>>51810596

S'okay, we still love you.

Okay /pfg/ I was recently invited to join a gestalt game with a level 20 start that intends to go through the mythic ranks and detail the party's path to becoming deities.

My buddy and I are interweiving our character backstories, he's an Antipaladin/Sorcerer that was once a genocidal maniac that rampaged across the planes.

My character is going to be a fallen Axiomite warrior sent to capture and bring the maniac to stand trial before the Primal Inevitables in order to redeem himself in the eyes of the Godmind.

Issue is I'm not sure what classes to use for my character.

>>51810630
what about the Esoteric/Outer dragons? I would totally be a half-occult dragon. They're library nerds!

>>51810523
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y8ixa8HZLc

>>51810663
Wyveran race variants. Focused on the type of Dragon in question, Occult, Esoteric, Celestial whatever.

You will need to put work in, but it can be done. Just not with anything currently in the game.

>>51810777
Awww ye. I'm totally gonna consider this. Mostly because I think the Esoteric/Outer dragons are actually a pretty neat idea.

>>51808729

Saturday's session went pretty well, I'd say.
The group finished up an encounter with some recently raised undead and their summoned reinforcements, after having to end halfway through the week prior.

They found clues in the swamp about their attacker, and now have an intriguing side-quest ready and waiting to be acted upon once they finish their current job.

Other than the Monk being miffed about rolling 7 or less 2/3 of the time, it was a good game, and everyone was happy.

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>>51810528
I think I found some good character art for you, anon.

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>>51809849
>Anyone got any pictures of rondlero duelists?

Sorry anon, I don't have any! I do, however, have some nifty-looking duelists that are close!

Do you want a man, or a woman?

>>51808729
A racist elf's opinions were all validated as he spent his final moments watching a human eat it's own feces. He bled out as the human began to vomit, it's attempt to intimidate a water elemental having utterly failed.

>>51810444

Taldor Ascendant is a level 8 gestalt campaign set in Golarion's near-future, where the Qadiran war machine invades Osirion which, in a stroke of luck, is relieved by Taldor swooping in to join their forces and kick Qadira's ass!

Katheer is now in control of Taldor, however the Qadiran Remnant is now begging the Keleshite Empire to call their banners and march the thousand nations of their vast, continental kingdom to war.

Are you a bad enough dude to journey with Taldor's finest diplomat across Avistan and Casmaron, making audience with world leaders to unite the world against the Empire?

Game page: https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/69210/taldor-ascendant

>>51810829
I'm looking for a man. Preferably someone who looks like he may have been spiffy at one point, but now he's out at the heels.

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>>51810880
>Preferably someone who looks like he may have been spiffy at one point, but now he's out at the heels.

>>51810789
I'd buy That for a dollar.
I'm just a huge fan of Reptilian esk races and Dragons.

In a way I'm not sure is perverted or mild fascination / love (like pet owners).

>>51809973
>>51809973
No. It's not about being worshiped, it's about devouring the souls. Qlippoth still are pragmatic if any and do enjoy seeing the things they hate go forth and do everything for them. And as a bonus any who pledge their souls to a qlippoth lord means less souls for demons.

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>>51810880

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>>51810819
That's the wrong one, anon!

>>51810887
That one's nice! Hate to be a bother, but do you have anything clean shaven, or with something more like stubble than a full on beard?

>>51810819
>>51810922

hahaha, very funny anon. Dragons are just cool as heck though. It was a stupid meme idea in the first place, I was just asking for ideas.

I'll probably just have them be like, a Wyvaran that swaps the +Dex/+Wis/-Int for +Str/+Int/-Wis and loses the slapping tail for Elf Blood. Does that sound balanced to the rest of y'all? It's highly unlikely I'll play this character in a game tho.

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>>51810927

>>51810865

Cool, thanks. I'll give it a look.

>>51810936
I know, I was piggybacking off his snowflake post to make a RWBY reference.

>>51811026
what is RWBY

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>>51811037

Cute!

>>51811037
A Texan anime.

I'm not even joking, viewers of the Japanese dub were as surprised as you are where it came from.

>>51811037
A shit anime

>>51809942
I include Lizardfolk in nearly every game I run. I feel they offer something rather unique to roleplay out of many non-core races, being non-mammalian, semi-aquatic humanoids.

>>51811097

>Austin

>Texan

Yeah, no.

>>51811037
A bunch of poseurs.

>>51811127

I want to play a heavily armored Lizardfolk Warder assigned as the trusty bodyguard of another player!

>>51811037
Didn't the guy making it die or something?

>>51811164
Yes, which was probably one of the best things to happen to the show. Boosted popularity at a critical time and gave an opportunity for a competent writers to get involved.

As a sylphu with Breeze-Kissed, does it make any logical sense to pick up Agile Maneuvers or something to make the wind gust useful?

>>51811180
I never watched it. Is it actually decent or is it just another meme show?

>>51811097
Did it actually go over well enough in Japan that people were surprised by that?

>the SRD's advanced spell search is down
>On both the current site and the old googlesites one.

Woe. There's a lot of spells in there that are only in there.

I was gonna look up the details of Bloody Tears and Jagged Smile again, since it's the most creepypasta spell in existence.

Are any Style feat chains useful for maguses? I'm used to getting one.

>>51811190
Hell no. Breeze-Kissed is good for the permanent +2 AC against non-magical ranged attacks. You can only use the Bull Rush component once per day, and when you do you lose your AC bonus for the rest of the day. Just take the permanent +2 to AC and like it.

>>51811238
It's all a big meme.

>>51811238
On the one hand:

>two characters literally based on memes, one being an in-studio meme

On the other hand:

>very popular right now

>>51811238
The first season is hot garbage. I've heard good things about the later seasons but frankly I can't get over the love/hate relationship I have.

Monty was one of the greatest combat animators I've seen, but he can't do shit for writing and decided to turn his show into a shitty meme anime rip-off complete with his own self-insert character.

The soundtrack is great, but it's almost all generic butt-rock.

>>51811058
Are they actually saying this or something else?

>>51811282
I see. Thanks. Won't nonmagic ranged attacks become really uncommon later though?

>>51811151
>That free bite attack you almost always get to throw in to your full attacks
Some of the best descriptions of actions I have heard came from my DM picturing a 'gator-man biting the shit out of beasties. One of the best was when I scored a great crit, got a table roll, and the DM had to try and figure out how I just bit off the leg of a fire giant.

>>51811310
It's honestly one of only two good things I noticed in the show. My friends tried to get me to watch it, and I came away from it of the opinion that it sucked on every level except for fight choreography and the design of two or three characters.

>>51811357
I will always be stuck with the juxtaposed memory of the Red Trailer, and then watching one of the characters passing through foreground objects in the first episode.

>>51811357
I'm stuck waiting for more lore. They've given me just enough worldbuilding to get me interested and now I need MOOORE.

>>51811281
Maybe Elven Battle Style if you're an elf. You could get Dex to hit and Int to damage with a rapier.

>>51809428
>Let's hear it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CGMk_roNaE

>>51811407
Elven Battle Style isn't all that good though. Combat Stamina Kirin Strike is better.

>>51811346
It'll get weaker as you get higher in level, but it is any kind of non-magical ranged attack. So like an abberation that spits acid at you or such could fall under that.

Still, unless you're a Sorcerer or a Cleric, Breeze-Kissed is better than Air Affinity, and Breeze-Kissed is more useful than any of the other racial traits you could trade it out for.

>>51808729
Went alright. Could have been better. We made some progress. Flew to our next destination, only to find a party member's oldest friend had been killed. There were tears, and we decided to find and murder the culprit.

Most of the other stuff is kinda universe-specific, and requires more explanation than I think you care to read.

>>51811438
Sure if your group is using the optional stamina rules. I've never been in a game with an ST who did use those rules though. And if you're not in that kind of game, you can end up finding yourself Swift Action locked if you rely on Kirin Strike too much.

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>>51808929
>>51808947

CE Noble Woman with: Creampie, Strangling, Pyrophilia, Jealousy, Tallness

LE Princess with: Sadism, Violence, Bondage, Tallness, Small Tits/Dick

Pretty good. I like it.

>>51809428
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLt8o5Nd-y0

Brawler/Rager multiclass with a tendency to crack jaws in bars. Usually because somebody said something stupid. Love to hear the sound of their big mouths shut.

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>>51811471

>mfw that first one

>>51811480
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tN875A3Bj8

Warpriest ex-soldier who carries the weight of those he killed in the name of a greater good in which he didn't even believe.

>>51811128
To be fair, Rooster Teeth was there long before the Great Californian Migration happened

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>>51810880

>>51811706
This is perfect anon, thank you.

>>51811717
No worries, mate. Hope your campaign goes well.

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Is Taldor Ascendant kill?

>>51811746
People have said yes and people have said no. I don't think you're gonna get a straighter answer than the other anon that asked.

>>51811746
Not yet, but it has an awful lot of the red flags the other fake games have had.

>>51811746

I'm not sitting down to write my application proper until I see the DM respond to the backlog of autism in the Character Creation thread.

Even though I went full autism and created the sheet n' such, which I posted last night.

Is there any reason to be a crit-fisher Magus outside of Critical Strike? It's a good arcana but doesn't feel that mandatory to me, and only exists at high level anyway.

>>51811746
People are jumping the gun because they forgot that some individuals have weekend-centric social lives.

it's still probably kill tho

>>51811746
I hope not. I wanted to see whether my concept was strong enough to carry the monstrosity that is a Warder (Bushi/ZS) 5/Landsknecht 3 || Incanter 1/Sphere Arcanist 7.

>>51811528
>That Song

Man I want to play a western game bad, but the gun rules makes it something no one want to really touch.

>>51811839
Then refluff reach weapons as guns

>>51811839
Did you check the rules DSP had in Arcforge? They say they're better, though I didn't read through them carefully, since I'll likely never play a game with guns ever.

>>51811839
advanced guns fix a lot of the problems with the gun rules, just also use classes that are not by paizo.

>>51811808
Yeah, because your spells crit when you crit with a weapon while spell striking.

Wait, the only way a spherecaster can identify magic items is through the divination sphere? How the fuck did they miss the fact that easy access to detect magic is such a fundamental part of the basic game and not just an insignificant piece of the magic system?

>>51811808
Spell damage multiplying is like having a huge fixed bonus to damage, in the range where any crit-expanding weapon becomes vastly superior.

>>51811849
Odd way to do it, but sure
>>51811875
I haven't, I just know it was a cancelled project. I'll dig through some forums and see if anything in there is worth the effort of fixing up.
>>51811880
Fair enough, but I'm the only GM in my irl group that's let 3rd party in (so far at least). So unless I'm running it, it's not likely I'd get to live out that Speghetti Western fantasy.

>>51811896
Blame Adam Meyers, he didn't like detect magic being at will so easily.

So he crippled every spherecaster relative to base casters for that belief.

>>51811831
>to carry the monstrosity that is a Warder (Bushi/ZS) 5/Landsknecht 3 || Incanter 1/Sphere Arcanist 7.

What's an Incanter?

I'm getting the mental image of a swordsman that empowers their weaponry with song, like them Intoners from Drakengard.

Is there any way for a low Dex character to have lots of AoOs? Like an alternative Combat Reflexes in the same way Dodge has alternatives?

>>51808994
So if I'm reading this right, my Neutral Evil Mesmer is into...

>Domination
>Murder
>Necrophilia
>Gnomes
>Roleplaying

Well this seems like a horrible accident waiting to happen to some poor gnome...

>>51812045
Warders get Combat Reflexes that triggers off of Int instead of Dex

>>51812035
Incanter is a Spheres of Power class with a primary class feature of having a bunch of bonus feats that you can trade in for stuff like Sorcerer Bloodlines or Cleric Domains. But you can trade in for all of your stuff at 1st level, so taking a 1 level dip of Incanter is very powerful and versatile.

>>51812045
There's a Fighter Archetype in Heroes of the High Court that gets Strength based Combat Reflexes, I think at 2nd level.

>>51811831
I always preferred Spheres wizard 1/Incanter

>>51812059
>Domination
>Necrophilia
>Roleplaying
"Play dead!"

>>51811896
Except not every caster even GETS Detect Magic.

Also, the ability to instantly know 'is this magic' is a massively game-changing ability compared to not having it.

You can afford one dang talent.

>>51812073
Are you sure you don't mean Incanter 1/Sphere Wizard? Because I don't really see a reason to dip Wizard over dipping Incanter, assuming you are dipping.

>>51812124
You dip wizard for the free incanter focus without sacrificing your bonus feats, as well as it nets you like one bonus sphere in the long run.

>>51812045
If you use Path of War it's pretty easy. Several Disciplines give Stances that increase your AoO's and there's the Warder. Other than that though, good luck.

>>51812116
>Except not every caster even GETS Detect Magic.

Name anything that's at least a half caster that doesn't get it.

>Also, the ability to instantly know 'is this magic' is a massively game-changing ability compared to not having it.

Which is why when it's a SYSTEM EXPECTATION that every party has access to it, you're pretty fucked over when you don't.

>>51812185
Again, it's one talent.

Or a feat if your DM goes with that 'Cantrips feat lets you recreate any preexisting vancian cantrip' rule.

>>51812116
>the talent in spheres takes fucking forever until you spend two more talents or suck several drawback cocks
>anyone without full CL/talent progression just has to get fucked

fucking amazing

>>51812142
Except that the point of dipping 1 level in Incanter is that you're never going to go past that one level, so you're not losing any feats other than the first level one. Sure, between the Specialization, and the Arcane Bond the Wizard is getting the equivalent of 5 specialization points, plus Scribe Scroll, from that one level dip, but you don't get any of the choices of flexibility that the Incanter has, with access to Bloodlines, Domains, or even Channel Energy.

>>51812185
Yeah, I'm playing a modified spheres game that doesn't have a divination sphere, among other things, and I gave the caster player a magic item that lets them detect magic 3/day. They don't want to use because it spooks them and so the party has been able to identify loot, which is very amusing to me.

>>51812202
>Magical abilities require investment

Whoda thunkit.

>>51812045
Hero's of High Court has a Fighter archetype that uses Str mod in place of Dex for Combat Reflexes.

For 3rd party options, Warder from PoW can use int mod, and some Disciplines have stances that focus on giving bonus AoOs like Combat Reflexes.

>>51812219
*unable, dammit

>>51812201
You say one talent like it's a small cost, but it's really not.
Especially when the system expectation is that casters have Detect Magic starting from level 1, and early levels is when your talents are at their tightest.

If a 3/4 caster wants to have this /basic necessity/ at level 1, they need to sacrifice half their starting talents.
Even at level 5, it's a fifth of your resources.

>Or a feat if your DM goes with that 'Cantrips feat lets you recreate any preexisting vancian cantrip' rule.
I'm pretty sure that was a 'any preexisting vancian cantrip that can't be recreated by spheres' rule.
Also needing to rely on GM generosity to fix a system's shortcomings has always been bullshit.

>>51812282
Detect Magic isn't critically vital, y'know.

Just go see Deckard Cain or your regional equivalent.

>>51812235
Pathfinder expects every caster (apart from things like rangers/paladins) to be able to have detect magic from level 1. APs are designed around this.

The build investment is one cantrip among four, plus all your normal level 1 spells.

Saying spheres of power needs you to spend a talent to detect magic is like if every spheres of might class started with no weapon proficiency and needed to spent a talent to get it, because 'guess what, learning to fight requires investment'.

>>51812321
>needing to rely on GM generosity to fix a system's shortcomings has always been bullshit.

I know we're all playing pathfinder drugged up on 3pp and homerules, but it's saying something that SoP took that step to actively make things worse for their classes.

So folks

What have your GMs done to make goblinoids weirder/cooler in your games? One of my favorite differentiations for goblinoids actually came from a vidya, where it was revealed that ALL the goblinoids (ogres, goblins, hobgoblins, orks, ourgs (goblinoid giants), etc.) were all actually from another plane, where they lived in peace, and were brought over from that plane by a god of war who forced them to become his soldiers many centuries ago!

So, /pfg/ how have your GMs done things with goblinoids? Hopefully, better than Paizo's attempts at them!

>>51812210
An incanter 1/arcanist 7 will get you 5 permanent spheres, and 3 you can change.
A Wizard1/Incanter 7 will get you 16 permanent spheres and four bonus feats.

>>51812408
I honestly can't find myself giving a heck about goblins, if I'm honest.

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>>51812408
My GM uses Hobs instead of Orcs as the default "evil humanoid" race. It adds an interesting dimension to those encounters, especially at low levels, since they're cunning and calculating rather than being dumb brutes.

>>51812235
>you need to invest enough talents into Divination in order to reproduce a shittier version of a Cantrip as you would need to invest in Destruction to do the equivalent of a better version of Fireball

wow that's so fucking good why didn't I think of this, thank you anon I'm sorry I ever doubted your flawless logic

>>51812418
And an Incanter 1/Wizard 7 gets 15 permanent spheres, a familiar, scribe scroll, a bonus feat, a specialization, and your choice of a specialization, domains, the ability to channel energy, a sorcerer bloodline, or the admixture talent.

I'm picking Arcanist for the Dimensional Slide exploit and the ability to problem solve as I go.

>>51812408
Honestly goblins as childlike pyromaniacs who fly into berserk frenzies whenever they see someone reading work well enough for my group.

>>51812348
>Saying spheres of power needs you to spend a talent to detect magic is like if every spheres of might class started with no weapon proficiency and needed to spent a talent to get it, because 'guess what, learning to fight requires investment'.
HAHAHA you have no clue how hard one or more of the writers were basically pushing for that.

>>51812467

Never understood why more game settings don't go for the expansionist hobgoblin empire.

They're empire builders yet you never see their empires, and the hob is basically the ultimate cannon fodder race for a player to carve through in huge numbers while still feeling like you're fighting a thinking foe.

>>51812542
I would rather have the bonus feats over scribe scroll, or familiar.

>>51812570
Sometimes it seems like they've got a good thing on their hands and sometimes it feels like Ehn Jolly is Jack Sparrow at the start of the movie, where the ship is sinking as it just barely scrapes into port.

>>51812610
This is fairly accurate. It'd be a LOT worse without Jolly fighting for good design.

>>51812539
>One talent for Divination
>As opposed to three talents for Fireball.

Okay.png

Anyway, I don't think it's that big a deal for people to not get detect magic as a given. The system expectations are already shot to fucking hell and back anyway.

>>51812576
Man, Ironfang Invasion has me excited. It's been ages since an Adventure Path premise has interested me.

>>51812592
Well you're getting scribe scroll and the familiar in your build anyway. You're just passing up on getting any of the things that makes Incanter incredibly modular for feats, something which you're getting anyway.

>>51812639
>one talent for divination
>it requires 10 minutes to work
>it takes two more talents to get it to not take forever
>"one talent"

Is this bait

>>51812659
I thought the context was identifying magic items?

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>>51812610
>>51812623
Ehn Jolly is the hero we need, but don't deserve.

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>>51812642

Ironfang Invasion looks like it will be good, but you know what would've been better?

If a legitimate hobgoblin empire already existed in Golarion! There's plenty of worthless nation-space in Avistan that could have it.

>>51812676
the context is "you're spending way too many fucking talents to reproduce something that should at most be half a talent"

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>>51812684
>if

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I will never understand some people's obsession with hobs.

>>51812684 >>51812676

Haven't seen anything about it yet, what's Ironfang Invasion's sales pitch?

>>51812695
"I could learn how to see the weave of magic and identify magic items... Or I could learn how to make ACID explosions!"

>>51812720
Meant >>51812642
Not >>51812676

>>51812702

Too bad it's in the middle of nowhere!

>>51812710

I like hobgoblins for the same reason I like Mordor.

It's not that I enjoy their company, it's that I think they make great sport for my sword. They're not big meaty rapists like the Orcs, they're not morally gray humans or elves, they're iron-clad lockstep legions of tyranny and oppression marching down to kick your ass and it will take all the strength of arms you can muster to break them.

They're mooks, they're the ultimate mooks. They're smart, numerous and satisfying to kill with none of the ethical issues of other races.

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>>51812710
Well they're a good way t' heat your food, mate.

>>51812720
>what's Ironfang Invasion's sales pitch?

You are living in a Nirmathan village in peace, when suddenly everything changed when the Hobgoblins attacked.

Now it's up to you to stop the growing gray goons from taking over Nirmathas and Molthune!

>>51812644
You do realize that spheres wizard trades away arcane bond right?

>>51812720

Hobgoblin mercenary company decides they can do a better job of conquering Nirmathas than Molthune, and their invasion leads right to the PC's hometown.

Eventually the company goes really rogue and threatens Molthune too.

>>51812720
>>51812737
It takes place in Nirmathas, a fairly traditional tabletop adventure region. An army of hobgoblins has gotten its shit together and started sweeping the land. The PCs living (Or whatever excuse you have to be) in a small village are pulled into the war, and need to go on an adventure to find the strength and the allies to route the hobgoblin horde.

I think they said the main antagonist is a Hobgoblin Swashbuckler.

It's kind of generic but it's going to be the first adventure path in ages that sounds like a classic adventure.

>>51812812

>It's kind of generic but it's going to be the first adventure path in ages that sounds like a classic adventure

This is the bit that's got me hyped up, it sounds like Giantslayer done right.

>>51812727
Wow jim, how come Adam Meyers lets you have real spells in your sphere?

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Can a single Suggestion make someone have sex with you, or do you need to stack Suggestion and Charm Person/Monster?

What feats do you recommend for a rogue charlatan? (Not the best pick, but it's a pre-made char)

>>51812852

Dwarf by the way.

>>51812851
Suggestion has to be something reasonable, so no, it won't work to get someone to have sex with /you/.

>>51812851
Only if they might've done it in the first place under reasonable circumstances.

>>51812851

You need to Charm first.

Suggestion merely makes the idea sound really tempting, but even a tempting offer for sex from a stranger will not have guaranteed success.

Charm, however, raises their opinion of you, so now it's practically guaranteed since you went from "stranger" to "my closest friend."

>>51812851
The addition of "monster" here makes me worried.

>>51812851
It needs to be something they'd sort of want to do in the first place. If you're an ugly git and you smell like an outhouse, a Suggestion won't work. But if you're already handsome and they're interested in you, then it'll be enough.

And if you Charm them first and then Suggest for them to have sex with you, it;ll work unless you're a really, really ugly and stinky git. Or like, if you're a gnome and they're a kobold and would never be interested in having sex with you no matter what.

>>51812930
reminder that Outsider (Natives) and others need Charm Monster instead of Charm Person. So you need to use Charm Monster to woo your qt tiefling buddy.

>>51812851
3 definitely.

>>51812851
2 please.

>>51812963
>>51812953

4 is obviously the best.

>>51812950
>Need

Maybe you do.

>>51808690
i made a character who's entire schtick was he was chuuni as fuck and thought he was a chosen hero and combat master at level one
he was a shadow caller summoner so there was also many jojo's bizarre adventure references and posing
I had him switch from wannabee hero to wannabee darklord whenever the eidolon died and he had to summon shadow creatures
sort of a fake dark side type deal

Guys I crutch on randomly rolling my stats for creating not cookie-cutter characters. I literally can't help spending 3 hours autisming over calculators at character gen until I finally have the set I want. The worst part is that I don't even really need the calc I have basically every stat array thats practical memorized.

I don't even make mechanically good characters.

I want to charm everyone in this thread!

>>51812851
4. Definitely 4. Let them think they still have free will, and they'll do anything you want.

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>>51813004
I just failed my saving throw anon.

How do I justify picking Student od Philosophy as a LE female tiefling slayer with a greatsword, a throwing axe and knives, and a bow?

>>51813113
Swording people is philosophical.

>>51813113
Might makes right.
Nietzsche

>>51813113
Your character is clearly a warrior-philosopher.

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>>51813004

What a coincidence! I want to smite someone attempting to charm me!

>>51812771
Okay
That's always a fun pitch.

>>51813113

She has read Machiavelli's The Prince encouraged by her master.

>>51812812
>>51812804
>>51812771

I can dig that. Let's hope they don't fuck it up.

>>51812812
Can't wait to see how they fuck that up. What do we think the part 4/part 5 "BIG TWIST" is going to be? That it's all Taldor's fault for being too patriarchal?

>>51813188

Leviathan too.

>>51813204
I had hope until I saw the top name attached to the project.

>>51813113
Your character spent six years earning a degree in philosophy, but then realized you couldn't do anything with it, so you decided to become a murderhobo.

Ok everyone, I compiled some statistics on the Wrath of the Raunchy characters. Let's talk about them. These stats only include characters with character sheets.

For races we don't really have any surprises there. Humans are the most common followed by aasimar. The rest is a smattering of 1s. Humans are almost always the most common race, but aasimar fit the campaign.

Next for sexes. Female is more common than male by a pretty wide margin, not exactly hard to guess with a 'lewd' game.

Now for classes. Vigilante is the most common, but almost all of them are exposed. Paladin is not unexpected. I am surprised how many wizards and bards there are. Warlords are the most common initiator. Then we trail off into a ton of one offs.

For alignment I am surprised that Neutral Good is the overwhelming dominant alignment. Out of the entire list there are only two evil characters, both lawful.

So what do you all think?

>Names:
Mercedes Drovenge
Valki Ommarra
Tianetria Summerglade
Francisca Zilant
Rath Khulainn
Wisteria
Lisa Sterling
Soralis Lyso
Charlotte Renard
Haraa Windspire
Lorelei Aldenwood
Jin Imoji
Fei Xiahou
Zefira al-Eahira
Lucius Maeca Lebeda "Irina"
Artemy Neizvestny Medvyed
Aaliya Al-Amin
Kline
Mimi(Mirinri) Pittich
Brihzwald (Buford)
Seth, Scion of Thassilon, Faithful of Lissala
Arme
Caitlin
Solomon Kreet III

>Race:
Human - 11
Aasimar - 4
Houri - 1
Suli - 1
Ghoran - 1
Half-elf - 1
Strix - 1
Catfolk - 1
Gnome - 1
Ratfolk - 1

>Sex:
Female - 15
Male - 9

>Class:
Vigilante - 6
Wizard - 4
Paladin - 4
Warlord - 4
Bard - 4
Fighter - 3
Bloodrager - 2
Incanter - 1
Medic - 1
Avowed - 1
Kineticist - 1
Stalker - 1
Monk - 1
Pactmaker - 1
Runeseer - 1
Magus - 1
Inquisitor - 1
Eliciter - 1
Psion - 1
Warder - 1
Ranger - 1
Rogue - 1
Oracle - 1
Soulknife - 1
Alchemist - 1
Harbinger - 1
Gunslinger - 1
Brawler - 1

>Alignment:
Neutral Good - 11
Lawful Good - 4
True Neutral - 4
Chaotic Good - 3
Lawful Neutral - 2
Lawful Evil - 2
Chaotic Neutral - 1

>>51813244
Who's leading it?

>>51813113

Art of War and strategy books.

>>51813113
Given the trait you're taking, your character probably has pretty high Int. It's reasonable that a high Int character would have other intellectual endeavors beyond combat. It's not particularly hard to justify.

How does two weapon fighting work with shield bash?

>>51813347
It werks,

>>51813347
the shield bash is a second weapon. Unless you have a feat for it, shield bashing makes oyu lose your shield AC for that round. Not that difficult to grasp.

>>51813371
I am wondering what kind of weapon it counts as. Light or regular? Does having a shield spike change this?

>>51808929
Bondage
Possessiveness?
Violence
Gore
Disease

...Well. that's a thing.
How does disease and possessiveness even work?

>>51813381
one-handed. Again, not difficult

>>51813391
Incorrect, light shields are light weapons.

>>51813295
I think the half-orc anti-paladin finished his sheet since the last posting.

>>51813337

Which should be her second trait, and how high should be Int to make sense?

>>51813113
Spanish fencers traditionally learned mathematics and utilized them in-combat in order to psyche out their opponents, claiming that their knowledge of geometry and physics allowed them to be unstoppable so long as they could read their foe's movements. Obviously, by expanding that to such a large variety of weapons, your character can back that claim up.

Rolled 3 (1d24)

>>51813295
Okay, fuck it, let's see who I feel like talking about tonight.

>>51813499
>tfw you could have been talked about but were one number off

>>51813499
Tianetria Summerglade
NG female Houri Medic (Angel of Mercy)|Paladin (Dashing Romantic)
Campaign Trait: Stolen Fury
>In east Mendev born and raised in the forest was where she spent most of her days
>Then the demons of the fourth crusade, they were up to no good, started making trouble in her neighborhood
>Got in one little ritual and then an astral deva got scared it said you're going to go fight in the next Crusade

>>51813113

Give her asthma. As a bonus, it will make her creepier, especially when she laughts.

>>51813524
Let's start with that race choice. Sure, half-nymph, half-elf, that's kind of neat, but what does that do for her? What's it like being half-nymph among elves, or half-elf among fey? I don't see how it really informs her character.

Second, the backstory. It's short, sweet, to the point, but not really in a good way. Years and years get glossed over, never really telling much about *her*. Also, you learned all your skills in "a month and a day"? Really? Come on, you're level 1, but you're not that poorly trained.

Next the personality. There's not much to say, really, just a few bullet points about how she's kind of a bimbo with the suggestion that she'd be DTF regardless of alignment.

All in all, she seems kind of flat. I know it seems like a bad idea to gild the lily too much, but this backstory is in desperate need of some actual meat on its skeleton.

Rolled 18 (1d23)

>>51813577
Wheel of characters, turn turn turn...fuck shoulda done this at the end of my last post.

>>51813422
Indeed, making for 25 applicants.

>>51813295
>Mercedes Drovenge
Cute
>Valki Ommarra
Cute
>Tianetria Summerglade
Cute
>Francisca Zilant
Cute dragon
>Rath Khulainn
Might be cute
>Wisteria
Tree
>Lisa Sterling
Stupid cute
>Soralis Lyso
Cute
>Charlotte Renard
Cute
>Haraa Windspire
Eh
>Lorelei Aldenwood
Ultra gay cute
>Jin Imoji
Cute
>Fei Xiahou
Double cute
>Zefira al-Eahira
Eh
>Lucius Maeca Lebeda "Irina"
Cute
>Artemy Neizvestny Medvyed
Rapey
>Aaliya Al-Amin
Nisekoi PTSD flashbacks
>Kline
Cat
>Mimi(Mirinri) Pittich
Gnome
>Brihzwald (Buford)
Rat
>Seth, Scion of Thassilon, Faithful of Lissala
I can't get past the art
>Arme
Would make a cute girl
>Caitlin
Maybe cute
>Solomon Kreet III
DHB

>>51813600
>DHB has his own number on the rating scale
But why?

>>51808929
Mouth rape
Voyerism
Exhibitionism
Bukkake
Possessiveness

...Hm. Not what I expected of him

>>51813592
Mimi (Mirinri) Pittich
NG female Gnome Warlord (Vanguard Commander)|Bard
Campaign Trait: Exposed to Awfulness
>From Ustalav, close to the Worldwound
>Hey sis, let's go over near the wardstones, what could possibly go wrong?
>Oh, a demon that breaks my sister's legs may or may not have raped her, that's what
>Like fuck I'm gonna let that slide, I'mma toughen up and join the Crusades

Backstory's pretty standard stuff, good workhorse idea of "this is why I hate demons". Having the sister still be around is nice, opens some more potential plot threads than just having Mimi being vengeful and grieving. Perhaps she sends letters home regularly, or maybe Mevida tries to send some to her but she lets them pile up, too busy or too unable to find something to talk about.

Personality is likewise kind of your usual "feisty small folk" schtick. On the one hand, it's kind of Zootopia esque in the idea of trying to succeed in a profession that needs brawn as a smaller, weaker race. On the other, that and "misogyny" being her buttons sound like the character's gonna be a one-note hothead.

>>51813577
>expecting in-depth characters and storytelling from RPG players
Why does everyone expect apps to be done by novelists? Just because someone might not be able to write as strong a backstory doesn't mean they aren't a stellar roleplayer. Most are doing this to have fun, not to do their high school English assignment.

>>51813705
Yeah her backstory is still to thin. It doesn't give me any reason to like the character or find interest in them. Plus if they don't care enough to write at least a fairly detailed backstory then I doubt they care enough to really invest in the game.

>Most are doing this to have fun, not to do their high school English assignment.
What are you mad that someone gave you negative criticism on your app?

>>51813705
Yeah. I know someone who honestly despises writing backstories because prefer the character to come to life during the game, so he mostly just writes a description of where they came from, who trained them, who their family is, that sort of thing, and fills in a lot of blanks during ingame Roleplay.

In my opinion, Backstories shouldn't tell you everything about the character. they shouldn't be complete stories either.

Tallness
Younger Partners
Lactation
Anal
Rough Sex

Well Shalelu seems somewhat vanilla for an elf.

>>51813735
This.

>>51813600
>Artemy
>Rapey
But how though? All I can see is that he's kind of bland and dim-witted.

>>51813295
Hold on, someone seriously went with Kineticist? Is it at least an aether kineticist?

>>51813705
>Why does everyone expect apps to be done by novelists?
I expect apps to be interesting and give me a reason to give a single shit about the character, hers doesn't.

>>51813735
>>51813744
Yeah even then all I get from her app is a whole lot of empty space. She doesn't tackle any of the obvious things that are important. Plus the fact she appears to just be a DTF bimbo half-nymph doesn't give me any interest in her character.

It's really obvious the player is mostly there just to ERP. They should do that in a just ERP setting, not try and tie dice to it unless they want to be involved in the campaign and from what I'm seeing it's a solid 'meh' for campaign involvement.

>>51813699
I do like the fact the sister is around. Honestly I think she should do a bit more with the fact she is from Ustalav.

>>51813755
Roil Dancer, so it at least has initiating to go with it. Doesn't stop it from being a wood knieticist though.

>>51813705
Apps don't really have to be compelling but characters "compete" against each other so there're bound to be some kind of expectations. Whatever they are.

>>51813778
I thought WotR was an ERP game.

>>51813841
>>I thought WotR was an ERP game.
It's a lewd game, yes, but not ERP. There's a substantial difference.

>>51813862
I've never played either sort, explain it so an idiot like me can understand.

>>51813755
Nope, wood. Because plant. And because I'm tired of rolling randomly and then having to do so again because I forgot to include it, let's bitch about...

Wisteria
NG female Ghoran Wood Kineticist|Vigilante (Exposed Vigilante)
Campaign Trait: Stolen Fury
>Used to be a merc in the Mana Wastes, her seed ended up in Cheliax when she got ganked
>Planted in Mendev by a knight who thought that he'd ended up with a fairy tale style child gifted from on high
>Dragged off to a ritual, but it doesn't work right on ghorans
>Used kineticist skills to escape back to Kenabres where her "dad" lives, assumingly to arrive just as campaign starts

The problem with this backstory is that it says almost jack shit about Wisteria herself. She is, in fact, pretty much dead for about 40% of it. We learn a bit about her adoptive father, which is nice, but who is *she*? Why has she decided to just settle down and be a cook? Why have the events of her life (lives?) not driven her to PC-hood already? She seems like she has no real drive or ambitions.

Now we do get an idea of what she's like from the personality section, granted. It's interesting to see the language used about why, as a plant, she likes to be seen as a woman by mammalian humanoids. But the second half clashes with what's previously established--while her backstory makes her sound passive, her personality sounds like she's planning to gear up and be a warrior.

A fix should be easy--just add at least another line or two to resolve this conflict, say something to the tune of "and then she decided to go fight the demons because [x]".

>>51813862
>>51813874
It's a lewd game where in the goal isn't to fuck.

>>51813881
Do a trap next.

>>51813874
it's the difference between a porno and a movie with fucking in it

>>51813899
And do DHB's character. Fucking tear it to shreads.

>>51808690
>How chuunibyou/edgelordy are your characters? Do any of them embrace the darkness, walk the path between shadow and light, or teleport behind enemies for katana stabs?
Pretty much all the way. Yes, no, no.

>>51813917
Haven't we already discussed DHB's character to death?

>>51808690

I'm playing a Kumiho, but she's pretty chill, mostly because the party kills so many people I never have to hunt. Teleporting behind enemies for katana stabs is pretty much mandatory for my role as a slayer though, so I can't help that.

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>>51813881
I'm wisteria's player; I'll see about fixing those things. I'll admit I mostly wrote her backstory at 3 PM after not sleeping the night before so it makes sense that it's a little chaotic.

If anybody has any questions about her, I'd be happy to answer.

>>51813881
do lore

Are there any minority groups in Taldor?

>>51813928
We didn't really talk about the character, we talked about DHB.

>>51813899
I'll do ya one better and disarm two traps.

Zefira
NG male Azata-Blooded Aasimar Bard (Dawnflower Dervish)|Warlord (Steelfist Commando)
Campaign Trait: Child of the Crusades
>Crusader mom mind-raped by Minagho, a major Worldwound-dwelling villain, and impregnated by a similarly addled crusader
>Left babby Zefirah at a Qadiran convent that mixed Iroran ascetism and self-denial with Sarenite ideas of joyfulness, I guess
>Always wanted to join the crusades because fate I guess, and hey, can't have taken that campaign trait for nothing
>Mother Superior and his mom who never acknowledged him as hers tried and failed to talk him out of it

There's a bit of a trend emerging in that most backstories are primarily about other people. You're all level 1, I get that, but just a schtick and a femboy appearance do not a good character make, no matter how many thirsty motherfuckers want your boipussy.

That aside, I like this kid. He does seem to have a genuine reason to be optimistic, having been fairly sheltered, and could serve as a good younger sibling figure to more jaded characters.

But please, do something with your backstory other than just say he's got a chastity belt. I don't care what he does, just make him an active figure rather than a non-active mannequin.

Lucius to follow in next post.

Hello /pfg/, can you solve my question?
I just read the Path of War Expanded, and I was very puzzled by Harbinger. To be precise, I mean his class features. Accursed Will and Dark Focus - they both have the insight bonus on attack and damage rolls.
It looks as if character mechanics interfere with each other. Or I don't understand something?

>>51814024
That's the old pdf. Dark Focus is now an untyped bonus.

>>51814024
I think I recall something about those two getting changed at some point in the past? Where you reading it from?

>>51813954
I was curious why you decided to change characters actually.

>>51814066
Wasn't really feeling the old character anymore, and the myth-weavers crash provided a reasonable excuse for shifting over, since I had to build a new sheet anyways. No special reasoning, just got an idea and wanted to try it.

>>51810220
>>51810239
Changelings have an Int+Cha option.

>>51810650
......go to bed Will.

>>51814002
Lucius Maeca Lebeda, a.k.a. Irina
N/CG male Azata-Blooded Aasimar Warlord|Vigilante
Campaign Trait: Stolen Fury
>Orphaned son of a Brevic swordswoman raised by his aunt in the House Lebeda stronghold
>Friendless sheltered prince background goes here
>Stayed youthful and boyish for decades, got abused like a motherfucker
>Ended up in attendance at a demonic ritual held by decadent nobles, so naive he never realized what it was 'till later
>Found out about his mom's adventures and background, and decided "fuck this backstabbing Brevoy shit, peace out bitches"

Feel like I went from eating crackers to trying to stuff a pound cake in my gob reading this. Mixed feelings, but here we go anyhow.

The background's got stock bits, but the sum of its parts makes it stand out pretty well. It builds up the character's personality and outlook on life, and while it's the kind of fucked up shit I personally cringe at a bit, it's actually an interesting idea--he's broken his rose-tinted glasses, and wants to finally do something meaningful with his life.

It's also an impressive use of the vigilante identity. Where most might just use it for some out-of-place Zorro analogue, he's actually using it to emulate an idealized image of his mother and try to create his own ideal for others to get inspired by. At least, that's the vibe I get from it. I almost don't mind that it's mostly just an excuse to play a femboy in a dress.

It's a well-thought-out character who has experience, but also has room to grow.

But fuck, that campaign trait deserves to be more than a footnote. You almost had an A+, and then you lost it.

>>51813732
>implying I wrote that crappy app
Try again anon

>>51810220
>Skinwalker bats are fucking annoyingly good too, since they start with flight.
No they don't? It takes a BAB of 5+ to get the feat for flight for them. Just play a strix.

>>51814041
Okay, this solves the problem, thank you.
>>51814042
Found in internet. But it seems worth to buy a new version. To stop asking such questions.

>>51814108
I had a weird time when I was looking at Lucius because my head agreed with you that here was a great character with a well built backstory, but my heart threw up looking at an Azata-Blooded Femboy Warlord/Vigilante and his character sheet.

If I were in a game with this, I'd hate it and would tell the player to fuck off, but just spectating for the memes, I really hope he gets in.

>>51813917
Yes, I will. But no, I'm gonna give the motherfucker a fair shake.

>>51813928
Apparently not.

Solomon Kreet III
LG male Human Paladin (Knight Disciple)|Bloodrager (Steelblood), Destined Bloodline
Campaign Trait: Child of the Crusades
>Every man in his family fought in one of the Crusades going back generations
>Lost his grandfather and older brother, dad got jaded and sick of losing family for nothing
>Decides he's going to carve out his own kingdom and make the Worldwound great again
>Barely escaped getting trapped behind enemy lines, but that's almost a footnote

Huhboy, another wall of text. This one says a lot, but without actually saying much. Okay, so we get a good idea of how Sully #3 turns out the way he does, but for a man driven primarily by Griffith-esque ambition, he's kind of bland. Ironically, for somebody trying to strike out and forge his own path, he has little definition in his backstory apart from being a member of his family. His focus and his dream actually seem to cost him the ability to have a life outside of the Crusades rather than allow him to do so. So he gets drunk and parties every now and then--that's not how you make a character live.

His personality blurb gives a little more depth, thankfully. The little things, like his passion for history and love of finding out what makes people tick, that's an interesting quirk. But the problem rears its ugly head again when it basically admits that he's kind of a blank slate on his own. I want to hear less of what he does, and more of what he is, what he himself thinks. Giving yourself a cop-out like "indecisiveness" to avoid telling your readers/GM that isn't going to win any points.

...fuck and here I hoped to like this one a lot more.

>>51814306
I see. I have been editing it slowly and was more trying to go for something else, but I do not think I am conveying it correctly, at least not yet.

Part of the idea is he has had a personality flaw since early age that he has little to no personal mental state. His inability to feel much at his brother's or grandfather's death was a symptom. His inability to make decisions without external leeway another. The bloodrage was supposed to be another thing in this case. I think perhaps making him VMC oracle might do the trick and actually taking the curse for deadened emotions.

I have to think of a better way to convey this.

Right now it is coming through as muddled and I think that comes partially from the fact this was originally supposed to be a different character. Instead of writing a new back story entirely I tried to adapt the old one and it turned into a bit of both watered down.

Thank you.

>>51814306
I hope you're still going. I have no one I really want to hear about but I just like reading shit like this.

>>51814306
Anybody got another character they want talked about? Think I might have to save my bitching for the next thread, but might as well say it now.