Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1349: Axioms and SCIENCE! Edition

What are some good waifus or companions in general from fire emblem jumps?

>>51785242
Self Replenishment at EX wouldn't be toooo much bigger since even at A+ it's only a small amount per turn. Maybe something around...20-40 units of prana every 10-20 seconds or so? That's about the max storage of the average human Magus so it seems pretty right for it.

Self Modification, think of it as basically shapeshifting, even into pretty sizeable monsters, but it takes time to do. Like super plastic surgery. You can graft other peoples bodies into your own to gain their abilities and knowledge, though you'd only be able to take in so many, and probably do all sorts of freaky bioengineering shit with your body with just a few minutes work.

God Slayer just increases the damage you do to Divine beings. Counter Hero just applies an automatic magical debuff to the stats of any heroic when they try to fight you.

>>51785702
Val, I was browsing another thread about Fate and saw >>51784785. Would the NPs be valid at those ranks?

Really hoping the cross-thread link goes through.

>>51785702
I know you must get sick of answering fate questions but what can your average human mage even do? Anything impressive?

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>>51785655
You can never go wrong with dragons.

>>51785761
Which one is the dragon?

>>51785764
If you have to ask it's always the loli.

>>51785761
I didn't play the games so I don't get he reference and have to ask: which of the two are you talking about?

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Greetings and salutations!

Work has slowed to a nigh stand still but I wanted to get this out to you guys and reach out for some needed aid. I'm struggeling with Items right now, which is weird because I thought it would hae been the perks, anyway I would like suggestions for items within the themes I've set up, to wit:
Drop-In's are going to be all about being out of context/outside the box thinking/exotic bullshit
Lemerians are the outright Reality Warpers but they have a few rules.
'Real' Scientist is a person struggling to do actual science and somehow managing it even though they are a Genius.
Renaissance Man is about being in the local stuff as a Genius of the Collages.

So if we do a jump and then somewhere like 100 jumps later it gets busted into multiple equally awesome jumps does that mean we do each of them seperate jumps? Cause I really want to be the abomjnation out of a universe that ceased to exist.

>>51785749
Not Val, but honestly that's a fair question. The Type Moon works tend to focus exclusively on freaks, exceptional prodigies and lther people with abnormal status, pigree, esources or advantages to the point where it's hard to say if a "normal" magus exists at all.

The best examples I can think of are Kenneth "Fast Wheels" El-Melloi (create a quicksilver blob golem thwt can snake through cracks in a wall/shield its' master from bullets/kill sith lightning auick tendrils, and with a lot of work set up a booby trapped maze containing demons, curses and spatial traps), Touko and Souren's colleague (shoot plumes of fire at absurdly, flesh vaporisingly hot temperatures) and Waver before that nonsense in GO (modify aforementioned blob into a cute maid)

>>51785782
Drop in items be exotic materials that work super good for stuff

Lems get fractal or noneuclidean stuff like a fractal micromacroscope that can tell the entirety of an item by looking at a piece

Real science get a kickass lab that has 3d printing of awesomeness like ironmans lab

Ren man gets school and a kickass coat

*other

**pedigree

***resources

Fucking hell, this ipad is shit.

>>51785808
Is ok there are lots of pad and phoneposters. It happens.

>>51785746
None of those would be valid at the current rank and the EX one would be invalid at ANY rank. I'd say that without a lot more detail on the actual extent and limits the others would be similarly invalid at any rank too.

>>51785749
Well, the four basic arts each of the current Fate jumps detail are stuff any average adult mage could do at around those levels (Not the levels you need to pay for, the free ones) and usually a mage will have some sort of specialisation in a field on top of that, with the good mages going into multiple fields or going really far into one field of magecraft.

As for how good they are at those specialised fields? Magecraft is a ridiculously wide and varied thing and the majority of the characters we see are either super old or absurd prodigies of some sort so it's quite hard to give a good reading. I'd say if you were looking for stuff on that your best bet would to be to have a look at some of Kara No Kyokai's magi, since that series seems to have less focus on making the various Masters all stand out. About the only 'average' Magi in Fate I can think of is Waver Velvet and he's not even graduated from being a student yet.


>>51785800
Nah, Kaynenth is pretty far above the average magus. He's pretty beast as a magi, he's just stupid when it comes to the sort of war Kiritsugu made the 4th into. Touko is another freaky prodigy and the same for Cornelius I believe. There miiight be one or two in Yggdmillenia or maybe someone sane in Strange Fake but no one really comes to mind.

>>51785749
Hate to say this, but you're kinda looking at this the wrong way, more so than that, you're asking the wrong question.

What do you mean by impressive? Type Moon Magi have a really, really skewed view of what is impressive and what isn't.

Example: Bazett Fraga? One of the precious few humans who can somewhat tangle with a Servant? Eh, so so, Modern Runes ain't all that impressive, plus she doesn't even do much research anyways.

However, a magus who, on the low, experiments on his family's magecraft for his entire life and patents some of his findings that lead to better reagent storage? A number of Clocktower Magi will look at him with a measure of respect.

>>51785836
It's pretty obvious he's not asking what would be found impressive in setting anon.

>>51785749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEO3lT9x5Ko

Just take this with a couple of tons of salt as the Anime universe was kinda an outlier.

>>51785862
>asks for average magi
>gets Rin and Lluvia
Man what are you smoking? Rin's going to be one of the top 100 Magi ever by WoG and Lluvia's close enough to be her rival.

>>51785834
They are? Aw, poop.

That one witch in Aoko's main story who does some utter bullshit to make fairy tales come to life (which AREN'T considered reality marbles apparently) and made a potion from the abdominal fat of a god which buffs that is some next level weirdness, though.

>>51785834
Kay, no problem. Was just curious what you thought about it. But I have another NP question: in the Type-Moon wikia it is mentioned that Reinforcement cannot be used on something vague (so reinforcing the sharpness of a knife is OK, but reinforcing the beauty of a song isn't), so how would a NP that can actually do that be ranked?

Or in Exalted terms, a NP that can add some number of additional successes to most actions.

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>>51785764
>>51785774
Okay, from left to right in FE: Awakening you've got Tiki, Nowi, and her future daughter Nah. They're all Manaketes, dragon humanoids who sealed away their power to avoid going feral and can use a special stone to transform into their true forms temporarily. Tiki's got some baggage from living off again on again in magical stasis for 1000+ years and having a relationship with that age's previous hero, but she's supposedly the most powerful Manakete to the degree that she could destory civilization on the local continent if she went feral, thus the hibernation.

The other chick in the aforementioned pic is Lucina and she's pretty cool to. Most of the main cast of Awakening are a pretty likeable lot and there's plenty of waifubait if you wanna go looking for it.

>>51785872
This, also one of the few certainties of magecraft is that Reinforcement is considered lowtier useless magic not worth studying much. Which is why a spar employing it doesn't even raise that many eyebrows at the Clocktower. Shirou's entire arc is how he somehow turns it and Projection into something that can outshoot Gil with the power of his Reality Marble.

And don't forget in one of the routes Rin goes on to apprentice under Zelretch, meaning she'll eventually learn how to use a True Magic properly. And True Magics used properly can stalemate TYPEs and stomp all but the most exceptional of EX Noble Phantasms.

Currently she's "merely" reliant on a prohibitively expensive jewel based magic system though.

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>>51785881
Yeah, Mahou is some crazy shit. Great art though, love the way they show all of Touko's stolen crests and Lugh;s whole design.

>>51785891
It's pretty wide and the sheer variety of it, unless you're keeping Reinforcements limitation of only boosting the main purpose of the object/vague thing, that variety will boost the rank quite a bit. After that it depends on whether you're wanting it to be an ability/spell like thing that just works like Reinforcement, i.e you put magical energy in to enhance something with an upper ceiling on how much you can put it that can be extended to a certain point with skill OR if you want it to be an ability that just makes everything you do better.

So basically, do you want to keep the limitations of Reinforcement or kick them and do you want it to work like Reinforcement or have it be a constant buff on everything? Going with the former ones will make it cheaper as it's more limited and going with the latter options will make it higher ranked because it's a lot more variable/constant and doesn't rely on energy costs.

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>Be in a setting
>Fight and struggle and suffer
>Eventually save the world
>Learn that one of your friends is some extraordinarily old being called a Jumper
>They could have saved the world alone in an hour if they'd wanted
>They claim that they loved your character arc too much to change anything
Have you ever done this? How did people react when or if they found out you had knowledge of the future and didn't act on it?

>>51785891
Why not just get Excellency charms from an Exalted jump?

>>51785943
The first one, where you put in magic and get better output than normal and only boosting a single aspect per casting (so casting it once on a car might enhance its speed or maneuverability and casting a second time might improve its 'protection potential' or something like that)

Does anyone know some "defeat/kill something, gain one of its abilities" perks of the top of their head? Similar to the Majin background in Dragon Ball Multiverse or Data Drain from Generic Virtual World?

>>51785966
Stacking, my good man. That and the fact that unless I rearrange quite a bit of my chain I kept Exalted settings quite far away from the middle point where I took the various Fate jumps.

>>51785970
Ah, Reinforcement is more the constant maintenance thing, not a one and done cast spell that'll last for a while. So you won't so much cast it one time and then cast again as much as maintain two streams of energy simultaneously.

Anyway,So basically reinforcement with all the limits but able to work on vague stuff and it's not limited to the main purpose of what it's boosting. I'd say that'd be a D ranked ability Noble Phantasm. Got a huge amount of versatility but the power is mostly limited by a combination of the energy you have to give and the fact that there's only so far you can boost something. That seem good?

>>51785963
>What the hell Jumper?! You had all of this power and knowledge and didn't do anything with it?!
So you think...
>What do you mean?
Let's see: the world was saved? Check. Nobody was permanently hurt, scarred or killed? Check. You develop quite a few powers and got yourself a waifu in the process? Also check and check.
So tell me, does that not count as a win?
>...
>I still don't like you.

>>51785862
Was Rin pulling an Excalibur face at 0:30?

>>51785986

Magicite Creation from FF6, Only works on spirit/magic based beings, but if you kill them they leave behind a magicite crystal which teaches you spells based on the creature's abilities and can be used to summon the creature directly to use its strongest ability on your behalf.

Having that and then taking the 'everyone teams up against you' drawback from one of the Fate jumps should get you some pretty epic-tier magicites from all the servants you'll have to kill.

>>51785986
Well to note a local Jumpmaker Gaunlet has made the Kill Anything Combo which is...

Talimancer (Overlord [LN/M/A]) stores spells in physical objects + The Abyss of Magic (Overlord [LN/M/A]) makes any spell able to grow beyond its limits via time & effort + Sting (Worm) bypasses the physical defenses, up to and including dimensional quackery + Balefire (Wheel of Time) to unmake the target's existence + Magic Must Defeat Magic (Jackie Chan) makes it bypass any non-magical powers these things are using + Warring Warlock cancels/erodes their magical defenses + Anathema (SMITE) defense reduction + Blessing of Stravhs (The Banner Saga).would create an attack that kills perma-dead + Conjoined Conjures (Cardcaptor Sakura) to make the magic play nice + Safety First (Cardcaptor Sakura) so that if it ever was used against me/Reflected/etc it wouldn't work full stop+ Final Casting (Demon King Maoyuu) for the full full weight of my magic behind each spell

>>51786024
I wouldn't be surprised Luvia is basically what she'd be like if she were rich and not forced into poverty by the circumstances of her family.

>>51786016
Yeah, that's what I meant by casting, as in separate instance of being used. Also it does seem pretty good and I'd imagine that getting it at rank EX would make it REALLY buff or something?

>>51786042
I've got no fucking clue what it'd do at EX since it's power is entirely dependent on the magical energy you put in, not a static buff, and it can't be expanded in versatility any more then it is now since it's versatility is already 'yes'.

>>51785963
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

If I do everything for them, they'll never learn. Also, it's much more fun to suppress your own power and take part in the epic quest to vanquish the demon king, than it is to just teleport a brick in his brain, or kill him through any of the other 1001 OOC powers you have.

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>>51785963
>WHY DIDN'T YOU STOP THEM FROM KILLING ALMOST EVERYONE
>Frankly I have more in common with the hiveminded bug aliens and am only in this to hang out with your pals the warrior dogs and they're more fun to be around when fighting stuff soooooooooooo
>I expel you from my country
>Haha, that's cute that you think you can do that

>>51786053
I dunno, maybe make it really fucking energy efficient or something? Like getting a pretty substantial boost with a bare trickle of prana.

>>51786064
>to hang out with your pals the warrior dogs
Be honest, would they actually like to hang out with you if you just watched as the big bad guy killed everyone?

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>>51786072
>its cute that you think they have a choice

>>51785836
I'm this Anon. Had to quickly sort out some chows.

>>51785749
To answer the question though, well, there are a few magi that come to mind. I'm using the definition that a "Magus pursues Eternity".

The Emiya Family as their magecraft deals with Time Manipulation, their Crest was so bullshit, the Clocktower put a Sealing Designation on it to study it further. Considering what we saw Kiri do with a threadbare amount of it, we could only imagine what else was in that Crest.

Satsuki Kurogiri, Sealing Designate and known as the Book of False Gods. He speaks the Unified Langauge, aka the Language connected to the Root itself, which allows him to communicate with any creature on Earth or completely hypnotise anyone he wants. However, considering that he was kidnapped by the fae as child and managed to escape, I suppose it's up to you ponder on if he meets your criteria.

>>51786093
Neither of those are 'average' in the sense that is being discussed anon, as was told to you before. Average in terms of power is very different from average in terms of goals. Stop giving such a incorrect impression.

>>51786053
And what about a NP that give a passive boost to quality/whatever when crafting/creating something?

>>51785963
They never find out, because I'm either somewhere else doing my thing or I've been playing the part of a distant, but friendly mentor figure, or the distant helpful dude who has his own shit going on.

Certainly, the latter two had them asking me why I'm not going to sort shit out, and my answer?

> "Why? I've been helping in your training right?"
> "Why? I've got my own shit going on."

>>51786120
Like before, and with every question like this, it depends on how large a boost you're wanting and how much you're wanting it to apply to.

>>51785963
But I have a bar to manage and I DID give you all the free drinks you wanted, never called you on your tab once did I?

I also gave you good advice and healed up your buddies.

Also when in doubt I lie saying "Im bound to this location, if I leave I lose almost all my power"

>>51785749
On average they can do basically anything. I'm really not kidding the range of Magecraft is just too large to get an average properly and because the only outliers we have are those that are 'too good' you get a situcation where people will shoot down any direct examples. The closest to average that I can remember is Young Waver, and that may be high/low balling it by other parties.

>>51786170
>Anything
I meant any one thing.

>>51786170
*anything not in the realm of true magic

>>51786147
Sorry if I'm getting on your nerves.
To answer the two questions, it depends on how large of a boost I could get at A Rank and it would only apply to personal crafting endeavours (smithing a sword for example, crafting a spell or inputting commands in real-time into a CAD program, but not over an entire factory of something), really only at personal scale

>>51785963
I've been slowly ramping up the difficulty of the settings I visit. The first Jump where I would actually have been in a position to do something like that, one of my companions had a mental breakdown and I needed to go tend to that, and drawbacks kept being a bother. When it comes time and I willingly bowed out, it'd be because of >>51786022 or >>51786059

I'd honestly rather keep the really preventable tragedies from happening and just leave the world with people who can continue to protect it than just coddle it with my own power that isn't all encompassing and knowledge that doesn't extend past the plot.

>>51786201
Nah, just saying I really can't do anything with so little info cause there's no way to know what you're looking for.

Well, A rank and limited to just personal scale things, maybe getting a 50% buff to the quality of what you can make seems alright, since there's no upper or lower limit on what those items might be.

>>51786220
Thanks Val!
Your jumps are awesome btw.

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>>51786249
Glad you enjoy them.

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>>51785963
It really depends on the person. I try to ease people into the idea, but no matter what they're always a little feeling of betrayal that seeps in. Because to get to that point, I would have had to lie to them any number of times, by necessity. And because of the perks I've picked up I'm a damned good liar.

I really don't like thinking about some of those kinds of encounters. They tend to end with yelling and accusations. And every time Korra's face and words leap out again like the ache of an old, badly healed wound. Sometimes people surprise you, but not often, not when you've lied to them for so long.

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Okay, I have a new jump that I wish to present for comments and criticism. Time to fly away with Peter Pan!

>>51786433
I'm going to need a citation for which character in the series can blow out literal goddamn suns.

Because it's been a while since I've read Peter Pan, but I'm pretty sure not even that weird starcatchers series features Peter and friends fighting Galactus.

>>51786433
Also, I'm damned certain Bane of Magic isn't actually a thing in any Peter Pan based series. Ever.

And that Tiger Lily's folks can't do actual magic.

And that the mermaids aren't goddesses

And that "zephrite" isn't actually a thing since Google can't seem to recall it.

And neither is the bracelet or the torch of darkness or the coral of corruption

You know what, the more I look at this the more it feels like you made most of it up. This feels like it belongs more in CYOA gen, because I am at a loss to figure out what most of it has to do with the actual Peter Pan stories.

>>51786433

Is this the longest drawback list yet? it has to be in the top 5 at least surely

>>51786477
Suns? What are you talking about. It extinguishes stars. You know, those little points of light in the sky, not enormous giant balls of fusion plasma.

>>51786534
>after the jump you are able to actively ignore the enforced rules of reality and chat with the stars just as you could in Neverland
>Outside observers are still blinded by their grownup logic and will be baffled by the impossible paradox they are witnessing

Well, it wasn't clear because it seemed like you were saying you can obliterate the actual plasma balls/Primordial constructs/sentient eldritch beings/Aedra corpses stars are in other realities

>>51786568
Oh, I'm not the jump maker. I was just making a puckish comment.

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>>51785963
I usually pull the "It's not right for me to interfere" card. You know, talk about free will, personal destiny, that kind of malarkey.
"If I just did everything for you, it'd be kindof pointless, wouldn't it?"

... but if they're persistent about it?
I remind them that I'm not the fucking hero.
I mean, I guess it's not surprising that some jumpers will have skewed, sometimes even alien morality. But I think I'm one of very few who has ever played that card on PURPOSE.
Y'know, really debating with them about the merits of staging a full scale nuclear holocaust on someone.
They usually drop it after that.

... and, if they agree, it looks like the protagonist just gave me a blank check to give the setting a brand new villain!

It's me.

I am the villain.

>>51786534
>kiss

Just so we're clear, it's not that one-ups are inherently wrong. But what on EARTH is this even based on?!

>>51786586
Oh well. Yeah, I'm skimming through and just jotting down the biggest offenders but to be fair-this starts off somewhat like an actual Peter Pan jump.

And then feels like someone else's story entirely. Especially when the writer hasn't seen fit to define what counts as a "god"

>>51786477

Huh? Where did you get that impression? There's the Light Fairy Talent option, but that power is limited. Did you mean the Star-Talking perk? Because it's part of the book that Peter can talk to stars and blow them out like candles.

>>51786515
Actually, Tiger Lily's people have been expanded to use magic in some of the spin-off series. In fact the Zephrite Sands come directly from an episode in Peter Pan & the Pirates, The Wind and the Panther, in which Great Big Little Panther uses special rituals to manipulate the weather.

Similarly, the Devil's Bracelet and Torch of Darkness, though not named, both appeared in the series Peter Pan no Bouken.

Bane of Magic is a bit of an embellishment, but it stems from how Hook casually kills a fairy in the 2003 movie, and how there and in a couple other series there are times when he seems to use reality to limit Peter's powers; I can tone it down if you'd like, though.

As for the mermaids, please note that, as I emphasized in the description and in the footnotes, I mean VERY minor goddess - essentially the power level of a lake spirit or nymph; I take to the kami approach toward deities, where even a single mountain or house can have a small god.

Anyway, you have to understand two things about my work for this jump. First of all, I put incredible research into both the book and all the related series that have emerged over time. A couple of times I invented things such as Pearl Dream, but even then I adapted them from concepts presented in the other materials.

Ironically the one thing I do recognise is Starstuff.

Which the author has a) conveniently neglected to mention that in sufficient concentrations can be utilised by a conspiracy of sentient shadows to rupture the fabric of the universe, collapsing it into darkness.

And b) absolutely is NOT present in the original stories.

>>51786433
>A Kiss or a Thimble
Jesus christ no, not for 50 bloody cp.

>Mother Knows Best
>Anyone who looks like a child always obeys you even if they're some ancient immortal god
No

>Shadow Sewing
The weird amount of detail given to how this might give you supernatural powers in other worlds makes this look really shady.

>Good Form in All
Seems too good for a 200cp.

>By Hook or By Crook
Feels more like a 200cp perk then a 400cp.

>Hmph
Why does this have anti-mind reading tacked on?

>Star Talking
Yeah, no. The snuffing out bit as utterly absurd connotations and being immune to those levels of heat, radiation and so on is a massive benefit. Just don't offer this.

>The Island comes True
Ohoho, no fucking way. "You can alter all other jumps in one fairly major way of your choosing". Nuh uh.

>Pretend Eating
This seems insanely abusable unless the stated examples are as far as you can go.

>Bane of Magic
Like the other anon, this doesn't feel very rooted in the setting.

>Clap if You Believe
Needs limits. As written, anytime you're about to diepeople are automatically notified that they should start clapping and you just come back to life. Unless you're instantly killed, keeping a few people in some pocket dimensions ensures you'll never die.

contd next post

>>51785702
So what would Information Erasure EX get me assuming I'm not kicked from the Throne for having it?

>>51786646
So this is not a peter pan whatever jump, its a peter pan generic jump?

>>51786646
Okay, as you may have gathered I am somewhat pissed by my original impression of someone trying to turn a children's series into some bullshit powerlevel extravaganza. I think I recognise your work from the past too, but I despise intellectual bias even more so it's not a factor. I am however vaguely relieved you've put more thought into it all than I had credited.

>Star-Talking

See >>51786568

>Tiger Lily's

I still can't find a mention of zephrite but the show does exist and the rainbow wand thing does definitely exist, so I'm willing to take your word for it.

>Peter Pan no Boken

Alright. Found them.

>Bane of Magic

I would definitely advise toning it the hell down, yes. To the point of being a 200/400 CP perk. The capstone of the pirate perk tree should, in my opinion, actually have something to do with pirates. As opposed to Asuna's Magic Canceller from the Mahou Sensei Negima series. Because absolutely none of what Cap'n Hook did sounds anywhere near to what the perk can do as written

>goddess

Well, then I'll just say again that "god" means a lot of things in a lot of settings, and that lake spirit/nymph would've been a bunch better descriptor to lose certian connotations. Ditto for the Drop-In capstone; we talking olympian gods, Aesir or Hindu overbeings here? Gods are all over the place. Nymphs tend to be more predictable.

>I put incredible research into both the book and all the related series that have emerged over time. A couple of times I invented things such as Pearl Dream, but even then I adapted them from concepts presented in the other materials.

I appreciate that, and I apologise for overreacting from a bad first impression. I will however ask that you update anything you've explicitly made up to cite what it's based on for the sake of clarity.

>>51786433
>Dead Man's Chest
No, you need to find another way to handle leaving it in a past jump, it's too easy to abuse even without being able to move from the spot it was in a previous world.

>Rainbow Wand
Can the ability to change a person from evil to good be resisted?

That is an insane number of drawbacks. How the heck did you manage to think so many up? Holy crapbaskets.

contd if I find anything in nots but items actually seemed pretty okay.

>>51786705
Not the jumpmaker, but as far as I can determine you start by default in the "normal" peter pan setting, but there's +0CP drawbacks to start in alternate continuities.

So...yeah, for better or worse it effectively is.

>>51786786
Seconded about the Dead Man's Chest, how did I miss that.

>>51786433
>Peter and Wendy note rewards
Again, you have to put much harsher limits on stuff that lets you send yourself or others to previous jumps if you're offering it at all. There's nothing at all stopping someone from having kids sent back to loot whole settings as is.

>>51786433
A Kiss or a Thimble - This perk is madness.

Mother Knows Best - According to the notes, I could take that perk and boss around even the Old Gods just so long as they look like kids. What the hell man? This is a 100 CP perk!

Silent Stalker - You don't hand out absolutes for 100 CP. Totally undetectable for that price? No.

They'll Sweetly Drown You - What... what is this even? I could see the first few sentences working as a perk, but then you top it all by allowing the taker to drown people IN FRONT OF OTHER PEOPLE without catching flak for it.

Betwixt-and-Between - A 150 CP Perk? Get out.

Shadow Sewing - For all the words you put into this perk, I still have very little idea what on earth it's supposed to actually do beyond teach expert sewing skills.

Good Form in All - Easily dwarfs the other 200 CP perks, especially Mimicry.

And that's where I stopped reading. The level of power in this Jump seems wildly out of place for the source material. I can tell you put a ton of work into this and I applaud you for that, but honestly I can't tell where you're getting a lot of these powers and their abilities from.

>>51786433
So now that all my posts are done,would like to say that anything Ihaven't critiqued is really well done and the jump as a whole seems like it has a lot of effort (Seriously how the fuck did you come up with so many drawbacks?)

It's just that there's a bunch of problems that need addressing whether it's mechanical issues or balance ones.

>>51786686
Um, I believe I spoke on that one recently so have a quick look in the archives? Little busy for a bit but if you've not found it I'll have an answer in...10-20 minutes? Maybe shorter, sorry.

>>51786705
Yes, it's meant to encompass all of the different versions of Peter Pan, from play to literature to anime. The original island forms the backbone of the jump unless you choose otherwise, but even then, Neverland itself has been emphasized from the very beginning to be malleable. So it's not unreasonable for the other material to be present.

Plus, keep in mind that I wanted to gather enough material to satisfy all of the backgrounds. Certain groups such as the "Indians" were only given deeper attention later on by other versions such as the cartoons. Therefore, I included them in the jump.

>>51786671
First of all, like I said above, I included stuff from other versions of Peter Pan, including Starcatchers. I was unaware about it being used in a plot to destroy the universe, but consider that aspect gone for the sake of the purchase; wouldn't really be useful to buy if it drove the user mad or destroyed everything.

>>51786682
A Kiss or a Thimble: Is it too cheap? I was bouncing ideas off someone before I polished the jump up for posting here, and I was told that the perk wasn't really useful, hence why I cut it down?

Mother Knows Best: If I toned it down from absolute obedience to just being more inclined to listening to you, would that work?

Shadow Sewing: That bit of text was just my acknowledgment of how other settings such as One Piece have their own interpretations on what happens when you lose your shadow.

Good Form in All: What exactly was so good about it? I could switch it with By Hook or By Crook if you want.

Hmph: Like with A Kiss or a Thimble, the person who read it over for me though that the perk was fairly worthless, so I enhanced the abilities a little to make it harder to get information from you with the perk.

Star Talking: That's a shame; that was always a part that I liked in the book. If I took out the snuffing part and just focused on being able to communicate with them as living creatures, would that work?

>>51786870
>A Kiss or a Thimble
I replace a kiss with death, and now i can kill anyone by giving them a thimble. There are endless ways to abuse that if you think even slightly hard on it.

>Mother Knows Best
It would yes.

>Shadow Sewing
Probably best to just focus on what it can do in this setting rather then having it change to work like how powers in other settings do.

>Good Form being switched
That'd solve both perks issues neatly yeah.

>Hmph
This person is sounding a little incompetent. It seemed useful enough to me, especially with the various examples that you gave off it and fitting for the setting but I can't recall anyone just being immune to mind reading or probing.

>Star Talking
It would, as long as the various resistances were removed too. You could drop the price a lot after those changes too.

>>51786786
I agree with the Dead Mans Chest argument. Maybe make it that the treasure map leads somewhere in the current world you're in?

>>51786836
I'm not sure how you got Silent Stalker as an absolute? Looking at the document it says "those without significant perception skills will not spot you until you attack."

>>51786868
Ah, had missed one towards bottom when searching it. All evidence of fights, including physical and magical is disappeared.

>>51786682
The Island Come True: I didn't mean for a major change like you seem to fear. Basically, it lets you add something to the setting, like a special rainforest with dinosaurs or a society of centaur ninjas. Plus, it can only be a single "thing" you could create a desert with a vibrant culture or an undersea labyrinth, but you couldn't do both. If I also added that your change can only add something to the setting, and cannot alter anything already in the setting, would that work?

Pretend Eating: Those are the specific examples I know from the books. How about I say that it only allows you to mime mundane things (you could pretend that you are swinging a sword and have the cuts be real, but you couldn't make your sword have magical powers)?

Clap if You Believe- How about I say that it takes at least a hundred people clapping to save you? I could also make it so that it does not work once you have died, but will work while you are in the process of dying.

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>>51785963
>I'm actually recording all of this to sell it as a soap opera in other worlds

>>51786841
Yeah, this basically.

It's sort of like-there's a good jump underneath it all, but it's cluttered by a pile of things I don't associate with Peter Pan at all you know?

>>51786870
Not the anon in question but-

>a kiss or a timble

Knowing where the people you asked probably came from, I'm going to say yes considering it's significantly more impressive than all of the 100 CP perks.

Incidentally, you should probably define Betxist-and-Between's limits a bit more unless the intention is to let Godzilla squeeze through the eye of a needle.

>Good Form In All
>Furthermore, whenever you are in a duel, you can selectively, throughout the fight, force all participants to follow the rules of good form and apply small penalties if they use bad form. That said, good form does not always mean morally good.

I suggest you simply cut out the part that lets you force all combatents to act in a certain way without any effort out to fix the perk.

>Hmph
>it is impossible for anyone to force you to tell them or say something you do not wish to. The severest of torture or even imminent death cannot make you say something you don't want to
>impossible
>imminent death

They were wrong.

>Star Talking

Yeah, that'd be fine.

>>51786870
>>51786914
Just to clarify. With the Star Talking perk do you mean that the resistances only apply when you're trying to talk to the stars so it doesn't kill you?

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Jump One - Pokemon!
==>
Region:
-Unova!
Identity:
-15, Male, Hermit!
Starter:
- C H I K O R I T A !
-Mental Bond
Skills and Abilities:
-Survival Training!
-Ranger!
-Pokeglot!
-Physical Fitness!
-Champ in the Making!
Gear:
-3x Masterballs!
-Medical Kit!
-Rebreater!
-Rapelling Rig!
Flaws and Future:
-Crippled :C
-Cursed :C
-The Next Adventure!
=====>
Could you turn down an invitation to visit all your favourite places? Even the fictional ones? I couldn't. It cost me my left leg and my luck but I took the offer of a 'Benefactor' and was twisted and changed to fit the world they brought me to. The world of Pokemon!

>>51786925
>Dead Man's Chest

Don't give it infinite space.

Don't make it impossible to find, just very difficult/protected by a curse

Instead of the convoluted past world thing, just make it clear in the notes you can't use it to carry things over to other jumps.

The password thing is fine, I guess.

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>>51786974
I spent some time adjusting but really it wasn't that much different than home. After leaving home with my best buddy Megan, the Chikorita, we hobbled off to journey around Unova to help those in need! We chatted with all the pokemon as we journey and with their assistance there's nothing we couldn't do together!
As Megan evolved to a Bayleef they helped me walk around and it sped our progress. But not long after that, Team Plasma ran amuk! In the wake of it we were kept pretty busy but its a good thing we packed a medkit, rebreather, and the rapelling rig so there's nowhere people and pokemon in need were beyond help. It is in this turmoil we joined up with an in-training nurse Audino who went with us to heal and rescue the injured. We nicknamed her Audrey. After everything calmed down they joined us permanently. Or really we joined them; taking classes to become a certified Pokemon medical professional. I will admit, the Nurse uniforms were odd at first but were pretty comfortable. Still, I was happy when graduating I could wear something more masculine for my own practice. And just in time too! Because some remnant of Team Plasma returned and started freezing everything! Riding on Megan (now a Meganium) we rushed to Opelucid City and got to work.

We kept ourselves busy, the three of us, for the decade. We made lots of friends, both Pokemon and human and helped as much as we could (and were helped in return, bad luck and situations can be overcome if we all work together!). Still I had one masterball that went unused, I never really went out catching pokemon except with some basic pokeballs to help transport sick and injured wild pokemon. I tried to offer it to a green-haired friend of mine but he felt much the same, only traveling with Pokemon that wanted to travel with him. I guess I'll find a use for it someday but for now, its time to say goodbye and travel onwards. Audrey's got Megan's saddlebags ready and the Benefactor's waiting.
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>>51786974
...that you electric sheep pokemon whose name I can't currently remember but is often referred to as a floff and evolves into a giraffe-kangaroo hybrid thing anon?

>>51786754
Bane of Magic: Any idea what I could use for a capstone for the Pirates, then? Part of the issue was that I wasn't sure what else would be strong enough. Do you think Roguish Ambush could work for the capstone? It's the only one I have that I think might be strong enough, and I have an extra low-level perk I scrapped for the pirates (involving poison) that I could bring back if that works.

Gods/goddesses- I'll tone it down to nymphs and spirits. What would be a better limit to state for The Island Come True, though? I wanted to make it clear that you couldn't go overboard with your extra addition.

As for citations, all right - I'll make sure I cite all of them, though it's going to make the notes sections extra.

>>51786948
You don't understand, you can't offer something like this that gives free reign to add to or change other settings. Carrying over properties you've bought? Sure. Adding centaur ninjas to Platoon just case? That's meta as fuck and crazy. Even if it's not abusable to near limitless extents ( I add a secret potion that gives me this power in the setting so I don't need to spend CP on it in the jump for that setting for example) , it's still an effect entirely based on changing other settings and jumps.

>Pretend Eating
Mundane encompasses a vast array of things, especially in the chain. Can I mime an explosion and make a nuke go off? There's plenty of mundane superweapons in other jumps to imagine. If you need to have it, it'd be much better to limit the magnitude of effects that you can do, not limit them to mundane things.

>Clap If You Believe
Neither of those fix the problem. There's no real difference in keeping a few people in that aforementioned pocket dimension and keeping a hundred or a thousand. And the entire complaint was based on the fact that as long as you don't instantly die and keep people around, you'll never die because they always know when to start clapping.

It needs to have more limits, such as only being usable once per jump or not informing people whenever they need to clap and having repeated uses in one jump need more and more people to clap.

>>51786966
That would fix the issue, so long as it's only when you're talking to that that it works.

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>>51786998
That's an Ampharos.
And I'm pretty sure I'm not an Ampharos. Though I did find a cute picture of an Audino in Mareep pajamas while looking for images.

>>51786786
If I took out the part about being able to access its buried location after the jump, would that help?

Rainbow Wand: Yes, it makes sense that targets could resist the change. Thanks for bringing that up.

>>51786821
Peter and Wendy- I already have a lot of drawbacks, so I'm willing to jettison this one; I was already kind of unsure about it.

>>51786836

They'll Sweetly Drown You- I was basing this off how the Mermaids get Wendy to drown willingly in the 2003 movie, and how in the 1953 film Peter just laughs as they were "only trying to drown her." If I toned it down so that it just makes it less likely for people to resist or object, would that work>

Betwixt-and-Between- What exactly is the issue? Since the perk primarily focuses on gaining mundane abilities of birds such as their language and natural senses, I didn't think I should price it too high.

Shadow Sewing: Basically, the perk is meant to complement Shadow Biter. The latter allows you to sever shadows from targets, but it doesn't let you sew them on. The main gains of sewing shadows onto you would be that it allows you to claim the shadows for your own and control them if they get removed again. Plus, it lets you lock existing shadows together, sort of like the Nara powers from Naruto.

>>51786957
Betwixt- Again, I think I'm missing something. What does Godzilla have to do with the perk?

>>51786966
That was the original intent, yes. Basically, it was a safety clause so that you can actually use the perk without killing yourself.

>>51786986
Those are some good suggestions. Thanks!

>>51786433
Secrets of the Land- Why the fuck is this undiscounted and exclusive to its background? It's barely better than the 200CP Mermaid perk.

Why the fuck is Tiger Lilly worth 500CP?

>>51787000
>Rogueish ambition

Sure

>The Island Come True

I'd advise a complete rewrite that simply instead of cherry picking from other jumps (which comes across as too meta anyway), simply lets you create your own Neverland. Which is like the actual Neverland, but inspired from your imagination; so if someone dreams obsessively about making their spaceship, their version COULD have some big guns somewhere but is ultimately an imaginary funland first and a spaceship second. Kind of like what that kid got up to in the Where The Wild Things Are movie.

>citations

Good to hear.

>>51787153
Because as written Betwixt lets you completely ignore the laws of physics regardless of the mass of whatever you're trying to squeeze through a crack.

>>51787153
>Dead Man's Chest fix
That would yes.

>>51787183
>Not the maker

Betwixt-and-Between (150 CP)- All human babies start out as birds before coming to accept reality and be normal humans. You, on the other hand, have held onto your bird heritage, thus giving you great insights into the secrets of birds. You can communicate perfectly with all kinds of birds, and you have picked up some of the natural skills birds have. For instance, you are an expert nest builder, you can tell an east-wind from a west-wind, and you know how to make targets regurgitate whatever is in their mouth or stomach with a simple strike. However, as you are not completely bird anymore, you will be unable to fly unless you picked up other abilities elsewhere.

>Because as written Betwixt lets you completely ignore the laws of physics regardless of the mass of whatever you're trying to squeeze through a crack.
I'm kind of lost on where you got that from?

>>51786870
>the person who read it over for me though that the perk was fairly worthless
This never ends well. What's worthless to one person likely isn't to another, and if you're pricing or scaling perks based off their opinion, you're going to constantly run into problems as other people pitch in. If you're going to balance, find your own system and stick to it.

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>>51787183

Can someone post cyber sleuth for me?

>>51787158
Secrets of the Land: Oops! I meant for it to say "Discount Native." Sorry about that! I thought it was a pretty good perk, though.

>>51787162
The Island Come True- That's a possible approach, but there's one big dilemma: the Forever Neverland special drawback. Since the drawback essentially traps you in the jump forever if you lose, I wanted to give some incentive, so part of the prize for winning that challenge is that you get to take your own sister Neverland to grow when you leave.

Betwixt- ...Wait, are you talking about the Fit Just Right perk? No wonder I was confused; that's another perk entirely! What if I said that the difficulty in using this perk increases with the size difference; it makes it easier to slip through things that are just a little too small for your current form, but getting Godzilla into a mole's tunnel would be far too hard.

>>51787243
I think maybe he mixed it up with Shadow Sewing? Shadow Sewing's the only place where I could see the laws of physics getting tossed out the window depending on how shadows are seen in other worlds, which the perk sort of depends on for shadow properties.

>>51787243
>>51787291
>>51787287


Fuck. Nah, I mixed it up with Fit Just Right

>>51785782
For items you can have 'scientific-sounding research equipment' and 'scientific-sounding magical research equipment' and '(generic item type)', which means 'You now have a item of some discription'. So just go for the goofy. Mad scienc-y sounding things are going to be common.

Geniuses really are more about making treknobabble work than 'science under strain'.

Remember. "Mages build Golems. Geniuses build 'robots' out of scraps."

Please, back off the 'Genius struggling to do real science'. That's not the point of Genius the Transgression. Give in to mad science-y terminology and all that.`

And I saw that years ago, I still like the idea. So thanks. I hav4e a build that really would love to get at this jump.

>>51787287
Eh, firstly I'd say that's easily solved just by having the drawback not trap you forever. Secondly I'n pretty sure Neverland canonically isn't some adaptive mirror dimension, so you could always refluff the thing as reshaping/growing itself BASED ON YOUR IMAGINATION AND SIGNIFICANT IMPRESSIONS of future jumps rather than 1:1 copying, so there's new stuff based on the jumps but still at the vague powerlevels of the actual Neverland.

And sure, that fix works. Sorry for the confusion

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>>51787280
This is the version I got off a drive that an Anon posted a while back. I think it's the most recent one.

>>51787374
Actually, Neverland canonically is somewhat adaptive to the imaginations of outsiders. It's why Wendy finds a pet wolf she dreamed of while in Neverland.

The major issue with making the Forever Neverland drawback not trap you forever is that that's the point of the drawback. You see, a lot of my other drawbacks are mental-based and focused on how Neverland makes you lose your connections to the outside world. The problem, I realized, was that they don't really inhibit you, since you remember your true self when any jump ends. Hence the special drawback, which lets you take as many drawback points as you like, on the condition that the Neverland only lets you remember after you've made the decision whether to stay or go. Now all those little drawbacks that you thought were harmless have much more relevance to your ability to finish the jump.

>>51785782
'
Hunt down the original PDF (It'sa a 'fanline' in nWoD so..)

Make people pay for the siz3e of their laboratory?

Just real the original PDF and start over. You'll have too many items to put in the Jumpchain compliant CYOA if you just copy and paste from the original PDF.

CAPTCHA sez: For Sale, Sold.

I know there are plenty of ways to increase the size of a mecha or spaceship, but are there any for downsizing them? I want to do some stuff with the Neo Zeong from Gundam, but at 116 meters tall it's about twice my preferred size for a mecha.

>>51787583
Rick and Morty has the best way to shrink things.

Through probably you will need to do a lot of remodeling on the inside.

>>51787438
Alright, and alright. In that case I think just having a note that specifies sister-Neverland can only recreate things which are already observed in Neverland will be sufficient. Advanced technology with practical applications is not, strictly speaking. the purview of children's imaginations after all.

>>51787592
I was thinking more in terms of importing, so I could do the lazy work of not needing to remodel anything myself. If I'm going to have to actually work I might as well just reverse-engineer the thing and rebuild it with the aid of miniaturization perks. Honestly, I should probably do that anyway.

>>51787597
That's a good point. The main issue is that I want something for Drop-In capstone, and something else as a reward for accomplishing the difficult Forever Neverland challenge. What do you think I should do specifically for each one?

What's the difference between the two Touhou Project Jumps on the Drive?

>>51786433
What is Tribal Magic capable of?

Rolled 7 (1d8)

>>51772269
155 Infinicon
Neo Infinity
New in town(SCA, Video Game Maker)-100
Age 24
Permanent Preregistration. -100, Crossoverlord(Tabletop Gaming), Master Autist -100, Content creator -100, The dice god's favor -500,
Legendary library, Main screen turn on -100,
Well, this will be an exceptionally good vacation for me. I'll be doing a lot of shopping here building up my media collections and also for all sorts of tabletop games(seems rpg books are covered, but there are always dice, miniatures and other such paraphernalia to acquire), ccgs, etc. Plenty of gaming to do to. This will be a fantastic 10 years.
Continue
1 Samurai Jack
2 SimAnt
3 The Room
4 Sekirei
5 Viking Saga
6 Lyrical Nanoha
7 Digital Devil Saga
8 Generic Video Game Developer

>>51787749
Digital Devil Saga. I'll be needing a new 7

>>51787684
I'm not entirely sure; later versions of Peter Pan sometimes gave the natives special magic, but it was usually pretty vague and limited to specific instances in episodes. I basically imagined it as shamanic magic and traditional rituals of Native Americans come to life, without getting too stereotypical.

>>51787762
Worm
at 150+ jumps you should be able to survive it

>>51787799
queued

>>51787671
One has Yuuka's Parasol as an item, the other doesn't.

>>51787671
Parasol, and some items prices are switched.

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>>51786987
Jump Two - InFamous! 50
==>
City:
-Los Angeles!
Origin:
-25, Student!
Conduit Type:
-Electrokinesis! (Maybe I am an Ampharos, but its the only one with a heal ability)
Additional Powers:
-Stamina!
-Focus!
-Autocharge!
-Regen!
-Durability!
-Strength!
-Analytics!
Gear and Supplies:
-Hardened Cell Phone!
-Hardened Laptop!
-Expanded Space Bag!
-Rebreather x2!
-Light Body Armor!
Setbacks and Future:
-Disabled :C
-Listed :C
-Move On!
=====>
Landing in Los Angeles, I found myself still missing that leg but I've gotten pretty used to that. Further all of my identification had been updated and I was back in the good ol' U S of A. I was however on the wrong coast and apparently about to get started in med school. I also a lot of my ID's had something saying I was a 'conduit' on it.

>>51788053
Whatever that meant, I'd figure out later. Megan and Audrey were scoping out my small dorm room but after unloading our supplies from the saddlebags and putting them away, we left.

While I'd never been to LA before, I was pretty sure the military checkpoints and patrols were unusual. I got hassled by quite a few of the soldiers but Megan and Audrey were both part of what drew their ire and deescalated the situation. They assumed they were some 'video' conduit creation and that spiraled into conversations about their favourite pokemon (Arcanine and Charizard were common ones, though one soldier stopped to hug Audrey because they loved Audinos). We met a lot of people, learned how to get to my classes, and learned something about the world - enough that I could go back to the dorm and apply the correct google search terms to fill out what I didn't know mostly. A battery of tests of exposing myself to various things resulted in some blown fuses, a yelling RA, and confirmation that I had lightning powers.

Hell Yeah!

From there, it was a pretty chill decade honestly. Went to class, was somewhat famous on campus for being that guy who rode on a Pokemon instead of using a wheelchair, played a lot of Pokemon Go (Team Instinct yeah!) got another medical degree (filled in a lot of gaps that being an otherwordly vet and emergency responder missed out on), and got a job with the military as a medical attache - which I learned I could use my lightning powers for a lot of novel healing to compliment my more orthodox practices and Audrey's abilities. Still, the lingering threat of the constant super-powered gang warfare and bullets flying at any moment led to a great relief that the decade ran down and the Benefactor offered a trip to another world.
=====>

>>51785782
>collage
It's 'college', not 'collage'.

At least, I'm /assuming/ you're not talking about artpieces with a bunch of different shit like newspaper clippings, parts of photographs, theater tickets, fragments of an envelope, and so forth...

Sorry, that bothered me more than it should.

>>51787767
If you're selling something for 800 CP you should probably set out at least vaguely what it can do.

>I basically imagined it as shamanic magic and traditional rituals of Native Americans come to life, without getting too stereotypical.

This doesn't really justify the price tag as it doesn't tell us anything really.

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Whelp this is what I've come up with thanks got out to >>51785806 and >>51787344 for the ideas.

>>51788081
>college
No prob I got frustrated by the spellcheck at one point and am now using University

>>51785782
Generator(s) for Mania? An awesome Laboratory warehouse attachment? A bunch of Wonders to start of with, possibly ones that don't require Mania/suffer Havoc, so that they are actually worth purchasing instead of building?

I'm also slightly sad there's no way to be a Mane, since I'm looking at the Merits listed in the pdf and you can apparently be stuff like an orphan automaton or weirder. Perhaps an undiscounted perk?

>>51787877
>>51787920
Thanks Anons.

was there an update to the skyrim jump that had 2 more scenarios? I thought there was one that involved joining the dark brotherhood that rewarded you with something similar to the Night Mother, but I could be remembering wrong

Properties. Need to make sure they're balanced with each other, let me know if there's something I need to change.

-Extravagant Club (600CP) (50% off: Drop-In): In a world where Enhanced Beings are running around with powers men can only dream of, and the equally unlikely foes that they must fend off, it can make the average person terrified. It can also mortify the upper class, they who have been so used to believing they had control of their lives and power in the world. Fortunately you can provide them a haven, a Paradise if you will. This absurdly luxurious night club comes with a fully stocked bar, an exquisite stage, a large ground-level area with multiple floors to overlook the area, and a kitchen that easily merits three stars in the Michelin Guide. Of course, the more effort you put into improving or maintaining it the more money and fame it will rake in, but the amenities alone will spread word of this haven, all for you to enjoy in your private office overlooking the establishment. It’s good to be the king.

-Last Name Corporation (600CP) (50% off: Tech Expert): Why is it that every big-wig company here uses the founder’s last name for their brand? Must be an ego thing. Either way, with this you have your very own company as well! Coming with an R&D department, testing area, and even a financial/marketing department so that it can keep making decisions and seeking out profit even when you’re not around, and they’ll do even better if you happen to share any technological or scientific advances you’ve come up with! At least, as long as you’re not blatantly doing anything illegal. As for what this company does… that’s for you to decide. Maybe you’ll try to get into the weapons manufacturing market, or maybe you want to compete with Stark Industries and be an alternative energy company with ties into advanced tech. Maybe you want to do something else and go into biomedical areas. The choice is yours.

>>51788371
-Tower Base (600CP) (50% off: Operative): A little strange to be having such a blatant area to stay in if you’re trying to be stealthy, but if the Avengers can do it then why not you? A snazzy looking high-rise building complex with an emblem of your choice on one side, this baby comes with its own landing pad and state-of-the-art commodities to ensure you’re relaxed and ready for the next mission. Forensics labs to look over what you got, luxury apartments for those you’ve granted access to, a fully automated security system looked over by an A.I. to ensure privacy, and an armory filled with equipment to assist you. It even has an advanced power supply that can sell the excess energy to its surroundings to handle upkeep and give a decent allowance if this was in a city. Of course, this tower could do better if you pumped more equipment into it, but it would hardly let you down even in a world of the Avengers.

-Project: INSIGHT Helicarrier (600CP) (50% off: Tac/Comm): Agents can do many things, and the strings of politics can win wars before a single shot is fired. Yet there are times mere words will not help. Sometimes, it takes force to remove filth. Time to get cleaning. This is a much more heavily armed version of the S.H.I.E.L.D. Helicarrier, created under Project: Insight. Repulsor engines for continual sub-orbital flight, a much larger variety of long-range and short-range weapons that can eliminate at least a thousand hostiles a minute, and a satellite with advanced DNA readers in orbit to assist with scanning and targeting capabilities to ensure maximum efficiency. This single Helicarrier alone could bring terror and death to a city all by itself, but its small fleet of weaponized VTOL jets for support will only add. You’re free to upgrade with your own ideas if it isn’t enough… but by that point all you’re doing is trying to make a bigger body count.

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>>51788382
> mfw I imagine Hyuuga taking Project Insight as her new ship body.
> mfw that includes Mass Effect, Mid-Childan, and Ancient Belkan Technology.
> mfw I remember that Hyuuga also has access and the knowledge to use Gummy Blocks and other esoteric materials on top Fae-level crafting.

Red. Red pls. I can only get so erect.

>>51788371
>>51788382
Please note how these carry over post-jump. And all but the second say that you can improve them or add equipment in some way. Do they retain those between jumps?

>>51788461
You'll have to pony up.

>>51788498
I will mention that in notes, and the second one does mention it.

>and they’ll do even better if you happen to share any technological or scientific advances you’ve come up with!

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>>51785963
Actually it's more like-

>Be in a setting
>Fight and struggle
>One day, you suddenly gain cosmic powers than externalise yourself as a person
>Save the world with your newfound might
>Occasionally receive insights and revelations that push you to fulfill certain goals
>Realise if you were an hour late on those goals the world might not have been saved
>Occasionally have dreams where a man crowned with law and masked with light offers to show them the character arc they never had

-these days.

>>51788338
Seems so. Is the version on the drive not up to date?

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/text/skyrim/username/Cool%20Cats%20Don%27t%20Trip/

>>51788371
>>51788382
Seems pretty legit.

I might be seeing things, but if I recall its' layout in the Avengers movies-it does seem like Project INSIGHT can do everything the Tower Base can on top of being a weaponised hoverbase. Unless the bit about refreshing agents is supposed to be a bigger thing than I thought. Not sure how to fix though, since it is basically SHIELD's pride and joy.

Also about the Last Name Corporation-just to check, is the level of tech it markets meant to be of a level that can eventually be built into something like the ARC reactor? Or more like Hammer Industries?

>>51785931
>This, also one of the few certainties of magecraft is that Reinforcement is considered lowtier useless magic not worth studying much. Which is why a spar employing it doesn't even raise that many eyebrows at the Clocktower. Shirou's entire arc is how he somehow turns it and Projection into something that can outshoot Gil with the power of his Reality Marble.
Nah Shirou's arc is realizing he doesn't actually use projection, instead he casts summon sword level infinity.

>>51788523

Will they betray or sell out the technology to other companies without my permission, I wanna know how much stuff should I risk giving them

>>51788588
it doesn't look like the drive version is up to date. Thanks though! wasn't sure if I was just misremembering or not, and I suck balls at archive diving

on a slightly unrelated note, does anyone know what changed with the newest version of The Gods Are Bastards? I looked through the threads when it was put onto the drive, but I didn't even find it talked about

>>51788588
>I might be seeing things, but if I recall its' layout in the Avengers movies-it does seem like Project INSIGHT can do everything the Tower Base can on top of being a weaponised hoverbase
Not really. The Tower is like a 'give operatives the intel and equipment they need' base while being a place to stay. A Helicarrier is 100% dedicated to fucking shit.

>
Also about the Last Name Corporation-just to check, is the level of tech it markets meant to be of a level that can eventually be built into something like the ARC reactor? Or more like Hammer Industries?
Default is somewhere between Hammer and Stark, but with options to upgrade the tech it distributes.

>>51788620
If it's a 600CP item I fail to see why it would be a trap option that betrays you. That sounds rather stupid, don't you think?

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Is there a way to create living beings with innate magic? Preferably holy/divine magic?

>>51788675
Fate's First Magic after a few thousand years of practice.
Geneforge.

>>51788646
>If it's a 600CP item I fail to see why it would be a trap option that betrays you. That sounds rather stupid, don't you think?

Before you or others might and call me timmy I was asking if someone working at the company might try something I never said that it was a trap option I was just asking because the company is great but there might always be someone or other companies trying to steal secrets

>>51788675
so, in The Gods are Bastards this is a thing that happens a bit

for example, there is a dryad that went crazy at some point, and as a result she constantly creates pixies who are essentially fully sentient, but fully separate, parts of her. They draw all of their magic from her, but they are otherwise independent. I would ASSUME that you would be able to do similar things with enough power from the other schools of magic(holy in this case), but I'm not sure, as the story hasn't had any examples of living things being made with divine magic, and it's still a work in progress.

there are probably settings that are better for that kind of thing, but honestly I'm not sure. I know that I have looked for the ability to do something similar, but never really found something that I was happy with.

>>51788675
Take the Angelroid creation tech from HLP and run it through the perk from Hero and Demon King that lets you turn tech into magic. Now you've got a spell / series of spells to make angelroids.

Then use Dark Wisdom to make it an easy to use Overlord (The Series) spell, and add in some Song Magic from Tonelico and True First Magic from Fate.

Take all of that and run it through perks and skills that enhance casting speed and the like, D&D has some neat metamagic, and you're golden.

>>51788714
>Geneforge
Another excellent choice

t. Progenitor Jumper

>>51788646
> A Helicarrier is 100% dedicated to fucking shit.
Hah! It won't be when I'm done with it!

> Mile High Club
> Literal Mile High Club

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Heyo.
Been working on this with Heavens, it's the Kamen Rider Decade Scenario/Endjump/Gauntlet.
It's still kinda rough so please take a gander at it and tell me what ya think, alright?
Our main worry is that the Heisei riders might need some explanation/writeups on them especially for the settings not represented as Jumps.

>>51788382
Ugh. I really wanted to avoid buying items but I went Tac/Comm and that INSIGHT carrier looks beautiful.

>>51788736
Well sure, OTHER companies might try if there's something shiny looking. That's what happens if you try to rub it in the faces of other companies. But as a CP item, you shouldn't expect your own company to steal from you or bite the hand that feeds.

>>51788763
And that's your prerogative.

>>51785655
Really depends on your tastes. There's a lot out there and it's hard to tell what you want from this post alone.

>>51788675
also, there is the Protector perk out of Innistrad. You can make one super angel, but you're only able to make one

>>51788744
>Spell to make humans into non-sapient waifu robots
Mean.

>>51788783
It's all decades fault.

>>51788805
>Well sure, OTHER companies might try if there's something shiny looking. That's what happens if you try to rub it in the faces of other companies. But as a CP item, you shouldn't expect your own company to steal from you or bite the hand that feeds.

Thanks for answering my question that's all I wanted to know

>>51788789
>>51788805
Wait, wait, wait.

This may be a stupid question, but can we combine items purchased? Like, could I buy the Strange Dojo and the INSIGHT carrier and turn them into a flying sorcerers fortress? Because that sounds like an awesome meguca base that'd be wonderful to have in Marvel.

>>51788846
The HLP tech does that, yes, but it also creates Angelroids ex nihilo too. I was assuming that the poster wanted to make sapient life, not transform sapient life.

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>>51788870
...you know what I legit have no idea.

Like on one hand I'm really uncertain? But on the other hand it's not as if I haven't pulled shit like that before with an option to combine attachments in Warframe, or getting a fake environment/shuffling space around in God of War. I mean... what would even be the basis for allowing property combination? What kind of justification could I even pull for that?

...you know shit I've done a fair amount of settings with 'War' in them. Why.

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query for the maker of Kekkai Sensen jump. can you keep your bond mate from the You
Are My Blood flaw as a companion after the jump?

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>>51788675
I think Magitek Mastery from FF6's good for all-purpose living beings with innate magic, and Guru from Chrono Trigger to streamline the process. Or To Call Forth from Generic Sword & Sorcery, although by fluff it's geared to the more eldritch kind of lifeform.

For holiness in particular, a Herald from SMT can create lesser angels with thier holy light glowiness thing. In Bayonetta you can also buy knowledge of the "genetic code" to the 'verse's angels. And Samurai Deeper Kyo has the Scrolls on the Shaman Growth Hormone which can apparently teach how to cultivate supernatural powers in others. With the right mana nodes and god's backing in the Age of Ice jumps it's possible to create angels through magic too.

And for a /very/ arguable given value of divine, with sufficient good crystals it's possible to create an artificial lifeform called a mannikin of such quality, it appears to be a benevolent goddess using the technique from Dissidia: Final Fantasy. Though if you used certain crystals from the FF13 jumps it probably would have a legit claim to divinity. Those items in FF13-3 and FF13-2 which are fragments of deities might be a good starting point to start learning.

>>51788646
I see, and thanks.

>>51788950
>FF6
Banned jump.

>>51788382
>Project: INSIGHT Helicarrier
And just like that I have a new favorite aerial base.

I wonder how people would react if I fabricated whole fleet of these using the ACU Light of Terra?

>>51788965
You do realise the thread, the thing you keep cowering behind to justify your shitposting, absolutely disagrees right?

>>51788983
I realize the jumpmaker would not.

51789022
You can say it's banned all you want, no one's going to go back through their chains and rip their builds for it out.

>>51788947
If you're not cool with it, you're not cool with it and I won't press it. You're right to ask if there's any justification, I sure as shit can't think of any. I just had the though, and thought I'd ask on a whim.

No worries either way.

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>>51788783
Had fun working on this endjump and gauntlet with Di-

H-hey, wait! Come back! There's a reward and option to continue your chain! BABY I CAN CHANGE COME BACK!

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>>51788965
>>51788983
>>51789022

Just finished season 3 of Distant Sky. Has a translation for 4 been released anywhere? Cause I have some serious questions that I want answered.

Beyond that, do we have any other despair inducing settings? Or suggestions for a horror movie setting for the generic horror movie jump?

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>>51788965

>>51789101
Yes, I see Brutus telling SoAnon to go fuck herself and that he owns her jumps now. It's pretty scummy.

>>51789101
I wouldn't bother. The last time he did this he started outright lying his ass off to make people salty. He's just doing it because being told he's a naughty boy by complete stranger is his only way to get off.

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>>51789115

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>>51789107

>>51788783
>They still don’t count as a companion unless you deice to import them later on.
From the Retainer option.

Really like the concept and execution. Customization table might feel pretty sparse, but when you think about it, it's easy enough to build your own unique thing separate from Decade's and Diend's gimmicks.

Also, while I found it easy enough to figure out what the Heisei Riders would get, you might want to follow through on the writeup thing. I haven't watched any series other than Dragon Knight but I've got a LOT of pop-cultural osmosis done thanks to y'all talking about karate bugmen.

>>51789081
Don't get me wrong, it's an interesting idea and could be really neat to do. It's just the issue of trying to find something in the setting to justify that kind of thing.

S.H.I.E.L.D. putting a bunch of its bases in innocent looking buildings or the SSR putting its operations inside functional businesses MIGHT be enough, but I'm not sure how far that reasoning can stretch. So if someone can find a more functional justification I'd gladly put something in for property combinations.

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>>51789091
Dunno about Distant Sky, but if despair's your game Ravenloft, Nechronica, Berserk, 1984, Lovecraft, both the Dark Souls jumps, Drakengard (when it's not making you cringe) and Fallen London all have you covered.

>suggestions for a horror movie setting

The Silent Hill films?

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>>51789107
Such scum, much wow.

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>>51789107

>>51789091
Not that I've found. From what I heard, it became an 18+ thing (Which I assume means nudity of some kinda because it's sure as fuck not because of violence) so webtoons isn't TLing it anymore and it's obscure enough that others don't seem to pick it up. I've heard season 5 is starting soon but with how obscure it is, there's very little info on it or season 4.

I'll keep an eye out for anything that comes up though.

>>51788783
Not bad but can there be an option to take Decade as a companion. Also, Decade did visit a few Showa worlds and got a couple W cards (as well as some unused sounds on the CSM driver for W-Drive) so can you add on the Showa and Neo-Heisei worlds since there'll be no other way to get Kamen Rider cards? This can be partially written off with the fact that Decade has appeared in the crossover movies and Wizcade.

There's also Diend and the potential for a route where you steal back your powers and items to get on his good side (or have him as a minor drawback/companion)

I'm probably one of the few who completely love Decade even with its faults and I want it to be the best jump possible.

>>51789191
Not me senpai. You don't see any anti-Red rants in my post, do you?

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>>51789082

Bodacious Babes

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How advanced is tech in Metroid?

>>51789252
yep.

>>51789187
These are all pretty good. Only one I haven't made a build for yet is Nechronica, so I'll go check it out.

>silent hill
And now I have to fight the spider mannequin

>>51789208
This is sadness Val. That last chapter is just so WTF.

>>51789239
Are you really surprised you're conflated with all the other shitposters? I mean, I noticed you're putting a bit more thought into this than Timmy but i can't say I'm surprised nobody cares enough to differentiate the two of you.

>>51789115
One day he might get off his ass and do something productive, but by now that would be a miracle.

>>51789187
Morning (or is it evening rather). If you've got the time, read through the opening of this and let me know what you think. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwguygZJzquVd09pYmJTMHdaaGc/view?usp=sharing . I think it's going to end up becoming a Siren redux at this rate.

>>51785963
Well, aside from the fact that my chain is so far low power jumps that just gives me a variety of skills and low level powers, so I wouldn't be able to instantly save the day anyway, if I'm ever called out on not interfering, which I usually try to do anyway, I say it flat it out: "I'm sorry I couldn't change those events. But if I did, it would have only ended in sorrow."

I actually had a conversation like that with Lucina, when she found out I was a Jumper. She asked me why I didn't save Emeryn, when I could have. I told her that Emeryn's sacrifice ended the war with Plegia earlier, because the people and soldiers had been moved by her actions and chose to fight for her ideals. That because of Chrom taking the throne, the nation was ready for war with Valm, and that since Morgan was the son of both Robin and Chrom, he would be able to rule Plegia while Lucina ruled Ylisse. I had allowed it to happen because her martyrdom allowed the forces of good to ultimately triumph. She understood my reasoning, but I think we both knew that her parents would probably never forgive me if they knew. So we never talked about my true nature again.

>>51789175
There's no really big/good way to do a belt customization table, especially for something that can be so wildly different like a kamen rider belt, especially ESPECIALLY if it's essentially an OC belt. If there's any ideas for new additions to the custom table, they'd be really appreciated.

Yeah, the writeups won't be a problem, just don't wanna do more work than we need to, yeah?~

>>51789223
I was thinking of expanding the final gauntlet, honestly. If anything, I'd probably put in a checkpoint before/after it cause as-is, the gauntlet is already pretty intense.
I was thinking of doing something with Diend but just making the central concept work was my chief priority. If the scenario itself is good then expanding on it might be possible!

>>51789283
The fact of the matter is that you people are in the wrong this time, what with your whole spite angle towards jumpmakers and the insistence that random asshole anons and/or Brutus have all rights over everyone's jumps and nobody else can do shit. That makes YOU bastards, with zero highground.

>>51789349
The drive isn't iTunes, it's an archive. There is a fundamental difference between how the two function and the purpose they serve. So while I get your surface argument about intellectual property and creator-rights, the fact remains that they do not apply in this instance.

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>>51789276
Bodacious Boats

I'm really not feeling the Genius Jump.

That said, I may need to send my 'builder' guy to marvel.

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>>51789349

>>51789349
The fact of the matter is that you're acting like your position is objectively in the right, and are clearly not willing to entertain a reasonable discussion, in addition to acting like everyone who disagrees with you is a scumbag of the highest order. That makes YOU seem like the shitposter, who we've had tainting these threads for several years and like s to use bait like yours.

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Re-posting this to try and get more criticism before I consider it finished

>>51789476
Hokuto Shinken is still cheap as chips, despite all feedback saying it should be way more expensive.

>>51789476

The scenarios don't really seem worth it for the price

>>51789476
> If you try to run and hide for the whole ten years they will kidnap and kill your companions until you come to them.
Really? Can you just make it so that if you don't kill them in ten years, your chain ends? This is just fucking... ugh.

>>51789377
They do apply, because you're claiming Brutus owns all the jumps and has total control over them.

>>51789428
Reasonable discussion cannot be had, all attempts get countered by anons wanking about how all the jumps belong to them.

>>51788783
ONORE DECADO!

>>51789428
Brutus has made his position clear. He has also made it clear he is not going to discuss the matter. (SoAnon knew what they were getting into when they submitted those jumps to the community. You can't ask for intellectual property to be returned any more than you can demand someone five you their memeories, it's absurd and makes SoAnon look stupider for proposing it. And you look either stupid or malicious in bring it up yet again.)

Let it lie.

Otherwise your causing trouble for the hell of it, and thus are shitposter we can all comfortably ignore.

>>51788675
Become a Demon Lord and pick up Demon Spawn from Hero BBS.

The irony makes it even better.

>>51789589
>Reasonable discussion cannot be had, because you start by barging in about banned jumps and acting like your opponents are pure evil.
FTFY.

>>51789604
>SoAnon knew what they were getting into when they submitted those jumps to the community.
I contend that. We have never had a policy of the jumps being surrendered to the ownership of Brutus in the past. Just because he came out and declared it so now doesn't mean you can expect people to be aware of it retroactively.

>>51789589
>They do apply, because you're claiming Brutus owns all the jumps and has total control over them.
You are either painfully obtuse or deliberately obfuscating. Whichever it is, we're done here.

Brutus has made his decision. You've mewed about this twice under the same circumstances with the same bullshit pasta. There is no ill will between Brutus and SoAnon. There is no grand conspiracy against which you rail. You are no The Resistance.

Stop your pointless shitposting and find something else to talk about.

>>51789616
You basically are. Nothing else to call people that don't produce anything shitting on those that do.

>>51789627
>There is no ill will between Brutus and SoAnon
If there wasn't, Brutus wouldn't have decided to disregard their opinion.

>>51789571

The drawback doesn't actually stop you from reviving your Companions or even keep them from respawning normally, it is just meant to be extra inventive to fight the guy instead of running for ten years straight.

>>51789620

See >>51789627

Yeah, your not arguing in good faith. I am now ignoring you shitposter. Stir up muck in your own backyard.

>>51789637
If I had any doubts that you are best ignored...

>>51789620
Its really more that we've had hidden bitchfits in the past that due to how the drive was being exploited, basically brutus had to be assigned the owner of all the files so people couldnt use their ownership tag to delete stuff. Plus people not being able to contain their shit constantly flip flopping between wanting all of their shit deleted and sticking by here is a pain in the ass

On the positive flipside this was used to quickly slip in updates but when someone fucks it up it sorta removes that method for everyone else

Basically having a neutralish gatekeeper is needed to maintain consistency for everyone else so one person's bad day doesnt shit over the entire drive... again

>>51789620
This was something that was accepted by a majority of this community in the past, and won't be overturned just because a small subset of individuals want to raise a commotion over it. It's apparent that even if the jumpmaker presses the issue, it won't change what's accepted, so as other anons have told you, trying to raise a commotion over this is akin to shitposting. You will find no one willing to defend your position on this. Furthermore, in all likelihood, SoAnon is already gone, dragging the issue up further is just kicking a dead horse.

>>51789662
Thank you for the context, but this guy is just trying to cause an argument. He doesn't care about the whys and wherefores.

Please ignore him.

>>51789491

Would upping the Hokuto origin cost to 300 and the Nanto origin to 200 be a better balancing for their inherent power or should I just up Hokuto to 200 and leave Nanto 100?

>>51789509

How about 300CP reward instead of 200?

>>51789652
Yes, but it's unnecessarily edgy and it implies that he can casually kidnap and kill all your companions at the same time, who may very well be stronger than you. It's not "extra inventive", it's "by fiat, this dude in a post-apocalypse barely-greater-than-mundane world is omnipotent several times over."

>>51789491
Seeing as it doesn't put you at the level of a master, and several other capstones put you at the level where you can match even a HS user with Musou Tensei, I'm gonna have to disagree with you.

>>51789697
The scenarios are hard enough, I would say you should raise them to maybe 400, given their difficulty. Don't know if anyone else would agree with me though, as that would be quite the hike from where they are now.

Weren't they originally 800cp drawbacks? Why reduce them when making them into scenarios?

>>51789637
The burden of proof is on you to show that there is some animosity there. You're the one making the claim. If you cannot show some proof of drama, and thus claim malfeasance, then you are shitposting either by way of manufacturing drama or arguing simply to argue.

Also, no, Brutus' actions are not ipso facto proof of beef. Circular reasoning will merely earn you a retarded gif and or webm as a response.

>>51789620
What is your standing for this series of arguments? Have you made any jumps? Does this effect you personally? If you've made jumps and you're concerned about ownership over what you've made, I get it and I encourage you to find Brutus and talk to him. However, if you do not have standing then, as stated above, you are purely shitposting at this point because you are the only one who has an issue with this.

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>>51789309
Evening, yeah.

>https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwguygZJzquVd09pYmJTMHdaaGc/view?usp=sharing

Well for starts, I think you just gave me a new emoticon from that title.

>The Light is Red

Huh. That's new. Off the top of my head, it looks fine although with a drawback cap of 500 and a total apparent CP cap of 3000 I am wondering where all that extra CP is coming from. I presumed the 2 backgrounds thing was in part to compensate for the reduced CP cap with more discounts?

...also, assuming you have the capabiliites to navigate between/actualise different timelines I assume those limits in the boxes are meant to be fiat-strength?

>The Light is Yellow

...I'm not gonna lie, the CP caps are just confusing me further. Am I do interpret that Timeline 2 has NO CP cap if you go gauntlet?

Spiral continuity: oh boy here we go

In all seriousness though these look good. Wait. Hold on a minute these are starting to look famili-

-aaaaaAaaAaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABSOLUTE MADMAN YOU /is that a generic Junji Ito jump/

>The Light Remains Yellow

Okay, so-the "extra" drawback cap represents things which aren't labeled drawbacks but give you CP?

Spiral Senses: Is this ment to be only the mental effects, or also the physical ones at higher tiers?

Spiral Manifestation: How is this different to what happens anyway?

SPIRAL PLANET: AAAAA

Not a Lonely Universe After All: OH MY GOD

Life Finds A Way: I'm a little confused, exactly how does this worsen the situation? Wouldn't fish behaving like normal fish rather than killer zombie fish be-well, roughly just as dangerous but still.

Progressive Adaptation: Does this make the hosts giant too?

Reproductive Instinct: Um, exactly how much does this increase the rate of reproduction by? 100 CP would be a little cheap for millions of skin cell Tomies so I figured it wouldn't be quite that much

Cooperative Existence: WHY

(Cont'd)

>>51789400
Are they really that bodacious, though?

>>51789662
I wouldn't call him neutral when his stance is now that anyone who wants to do anything to their jumps can fuck off and die because they all belong to him now. That's taking a definite stance on the side of the shitposters.

>>51789680
>This was something that was accepted by a majority of this community in the past
When and where?

>>51789697
>How about 300CP reward instead of 200?

Way better and I don't realyl mind the rival drawback so that's going to make for a great story

>>51789730
You...haven't noticed literally every single person you've ever posted comments on these lines has either ignored you, disagreed with you or called you out for the shitposter you are?

Of course you are. You're arguing in bad faith, and ignoring everyone who's actually calling you out.

>>51788783
Can we have Kamen Rider G cybernetics.
Wine bottle henshin the best.

>>51789476
Nerfing Hokuto Ryuken was kind of a dumb-dumb move. Now you have a style roughly as good as Hokuto Shinken that is inexplicably priced 200 cp more.

>>51789698

Ah, that is a problem with my wording then.
He isn't taking them on all at once, he is doing it one at a time until you fight him.

>>51789724

I made the reward 200 so you could still get only 800 extra CP
ex. taking 600 in drawbacks and the scenario
400 does seem a bit too much of a reward

>>51789730
>I wouldn't call him neutral when his stance is now that anyone who wants to do anything to their jumps can fuck off and die because they all belong to him now.
Do you have jumps, supplements, or the like on the drive? How is this effecting you? I have yet to see a jump maker argue against this, so if you have made jumps identify them and explain what you're thinking.

If you've got some insight into this I'd gladly listen.

>>51789752
All of you are cancer. The fact that you're all supporting shitposters against jumpmakers just reinforces that. Railing against you for being disgusting is just as fine as convincing you of anything.

If you can't remove a tumor you can at least curse it.

>>51789762
>I have yet to see a jump maker argue against this
Well considering it's a decision made to spite a departing jumpmaker...

>>51789758

Eh, I'm still fine tuning the balance.
I figured if I wasn't offering Musou Tensei anymore I shouldn't be offering something else that is automatically on its level
And yes I am aware Self Taught Style still lets you fight someone with Musou Tensei but figure it's fine since you can still theoretically be beaten by someone without abilities of that level

>>51789782
Now that you've outright stated that you aren't going to address anyone's concerns and you're just going to shitfling and call names we can all ignore you.

Thanks for being honest.

>>51789762
No insight. He shitposter.

Seriously guys, this person is best ignored. He literally has nothing to say but try to stir-up nonexistent shit.

This matter has resolved threads ago. How about we tell this asshole that if he cares so much about it he should look into the archive for all the arguments and leave us alone.

>>51789782
Curse. A tumour.

I'll be kind and assume you said 'cure' as that makes sense.

You are an idiot. That is all.

>>51789793
>>51789762
>Do you have jumps, supplements, or the like on the drive? How is this effecting you? I have yet to see a jump maker argue against this, so if you have made jumps identify them and explain what you're thinking.

>>51789820
Fair point, thanks anon. I'm done now.

>>51789813
I have addressed your concerns. You counter only by claiming that Brutus is in the right no matter what based on an assumption over what SoAnon would feel in direct counteraction against what she actually fucking SAID. You're promoting a logical dissonance in your very position. Nothing can be done about a logical dissonance but pointing out how stupid it is, not unless she comes back to complain about this.

>>51789637
>You basically are. Nothing else to call people that don't produce anything shitting on those that do.
Wow, I mean, you've made it clear that you're doing this just to start shit, but you have an awfully clear lack of support from jumpmakers to be claiming that everyone's siding against them. Of course, that's ignoring the fact that a lot of jumpmakers post as anon. It's not like they're a monolithic group, ya know.

>>51789793
Got the spite the wrong way round, friend.

No other jumpmaker who chose to leave, temporarily or permanent has ever demanded their jumps be removed from the drive.

'Cause they aren't idiot indian-givers who want to lash out at the community.

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>>51789309
Strange Fiction: Considering how varied urban legends can be in certain places (like that death angel in south america) maybe consider making this a 100 CP, and swapping its' format with A Slip In Time? Since it's a bit of a potluck as to how dangerous the urban legends you're likely to get will be anyway.

>The Light is Green

Gosh, that's a lot of backgrounds!

Anyway, everything looks like it's waiting to be filled in from here on. I've always wondered what all this improves-hides-increases stuff means though.

No one ever takes: Except me, apparently! Huh, that's the first time I've ever seen weather as an item. How about that.

"Food": ...does it taste good, at least?

>The "Tomie" Cells

. . .

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>51789820
>look into the archive for all the arguments
I remember a bunch of posts insulting SoAnon and insisting that jumps belong to the anons of the thread. I wouldn't call the entitled arrogance displayed there an 'argument'.

>>51789863
And it's spite returned to deny them that right over their work and claim it as your own.

>>51789863
>indian-givers

What, like...the pilgrims? I know they did a lot of shit, but I'm actually kinda stumped in trying to figure out what they have to do with this shitposter trying to make a name for himself.

Is this a smallpox metaphor I'm not getting?

>>51789801
You went a bit too far in the other direction desu. Neither Hokuto Ryuken or Gou no Ken read as actually giving you the ability to match someone with the 400 cp Hokuto Shinken perk. Even upping the background prices doesn't really fix that, because picking up the HS perk undiscounted is only slightly more expensive than a discounted capstone, and actually better than both of Wasteland Inhabitants capstones. Drop In and Nanto Sect seem pretty good though.

>>51789873
You remember wrong, or you are lying.

Although there was arrogance, it was on SoAnon's part, and the only insults SoAnon got was in how many people did not care that they decided to leave, while also jumping a heaving load on the thread that little shits like you are picking up on several threads later to try and cause drama over a done deal.

Justiceanon tried talking to SoAnon, tried to talk IRC, the little drama queen however wanted to have their temper tamptrum in public. Cause obviously the public will side with the squalling infant who just has to have that toy.

>>51785655
M A R I B E L L E

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Jumpers!

Do you have any Companions who are not merely Companions, but COMPANIONS? Have you met people who insisted that they be brought along on your travels?

Tell me your tales of assertive Companions and hitch-hikers who became crew.

>>51789898
Indian-giver is an American term that refers to the fact that a lot of Native Americans had no concept of land ownership. So when the European colonists 'bought' land from them, the Native Americans thought they were just renting hunting rights, and later moved back in, expected another payment, or just thought they'd still be allowed to hunt there too (which sometimes led to the killing of farm animals). So the term came to refer to someone who gives you something then later takes it away.

>>51789890
That is so stupid.

If your not going to at least try, then i don't see why i should waste my time with you.

>>51789898
I think it's supposed to be a reference to the Government making treaties with the Native Americans, then later ignoring said treaties.

>>51789801
>And yes I am aware Self Taught Style still lets you fight someone with Musou Tensei but figure it's fine since you can still theoretically be beaten by someone without abilities of that level

Can you explain this please because I really wanted self taught style, and that seems like a major flaw for it

>>51789943
I remember when I first heard about that. Made me really sad for the rest of the day (I was very young).

>>51789898
Basically Indian Givers means "someone who gives something to someone as promised and then takes it back." Think it's based on the shit that went down with the trail of tears.

>>51789934
I don't care how you feel about how SoAnon acted. The fact of the matter is that those jumps belong to her, not to you, and thus the arguments relying on that are nonsense.

You're also lying through your teeth claiming you weren't wanking yourselves raw about how shitty she was and how she can't do shit because the jumps belong to you now.

>>51789939
So, uh, source?

>>51789939
I need sauce on that webm.
For… research purposes.

>>51789729
...How do you get a new emoticon from the title of all things.Yes, it would essentially translate roughly to A Collection of Strange Tales by Junji Ito

>The Light is Red/Yellow
If you have abilities to navigate timelines that's on you, I didn't bother designing it with that in mind. That said, active timelines occur concurrently. I should probably rearrange the tables better to make things clearer...good to note. It isn't a matter of choosing a single timeline - but rather how many timelines won't be an active threat.

>Remains Yellow
I revised the system that I had used in Siren slightly, though because of the tiered nature of some of the conditionals, I might either have to take a tabled approach or just rework it into specific tiers. Trying to approach in a compact fashion hasn't been entirely beneficial.

Spiral Manifestation strips away any immunity you might have had to the effect of the Spiral regardless of range. will clarify.

Life Finds a Way allows the zombie fish to actively breed and create more zombies, at the rate that normal fish would breed, in the same quantities, except they all retain the same resilience that the zombie fishes do on land.

Prog. Adap. Not all of the hosts were giant, for the most part the sizes of the marine life remained relatively the same. Human hosts did show up in the part II of Gyo, though they were mostly the result of intentional late stage human experimentation.

Repro. Instinct. Hrm. I should probably reword this so that it's clarified properly from Blinded by Love. It's better used to allow Tomie to naturally "split" herself without harming her body (at least until the budding process is complete, unless you took Cooperative Existence as well.) Normally the process of reproduction for Tomie requires her to die first.

Cooperative Existence: Why Not Tomie?

Hmm. Good, I'll know which points to insert breaks and put in more detailed explanations with this.

Are there any perks that let you use telepathy or mind-affecting powers on things that are normally immune to them?

>>51789978
>>51789981
It's Turbo Kid. It's a nostalgia / pastiche to old 80s kids movies. It's fucking hilarious and the FRIEND pictured, Apple, is perfect.

If you grew up on old 80s kids movies and weird stuff like Time Pirates and Goonies, then give it a watch.

>>51789971
If your just going to make up lies then there's no talking to you.

Show evidence or shut up about this 'wanking' you say was happening. Go on, post a screenshot, I double-dare you.

I also don't care how you feel. You are a liar, a shitstirrer and right now I am getting so much enjoyment over the fact that this is a Saturday night, and this is what your getting up to. Get a life you wannabe vandal.

I wish I could take a Lavender CYOA build on Jumps.

Damnit.

>>51790034
Go look at the archive, the thread where it happened and the thread after. It wasn't a secret, this wasn't a long time ago. I don't think it's even been a week. You were there, and you know. This isn't something obscured by time you can easily like about.

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>>51789978
>>51789981
>>51790029
Here's an action shot of Apple to let you know what you're in for if you watch it.

>>51789931

Gou no Ken is literraly Raoh's style, if you have strength beyond normal men, such as by buying Dedicated Training you are easily on the same level as the 400 Hokuto Shinken perk on its own

>>51789961

Here is how I'm describing it in the notes for the next version
>Self Taught Style is meant as an equalizer not a truly powerful style on its own. It doesn't so much give you the incredible techniques that having a Hokuto or Nanto style does, instead it gives you a level of knowledge and skill in martial arts to counter even the most overpowered techniques. This is meant to let you fight evenly with guys like Musou Tensei Kenshiro and Kaioh despite their ancient martial arts bullshit not to let you absolutely overpower everyone you meet that isn't on their level.

>>51789939
That would require pods.

I don't have those.

The closest I can get to having someone travelling along me is to consume their soul and call them as familiars.

>>51789971
>The fact of the matter is that those jumps belong to her, not to you, and thus the arguments relying on that are nonsense.
Stop saying "the fact of the matter". It's not a fact that they belong to her, it's a matter of contested opinion. If I donate some books to a library, I can't just take them back because I'm unhappy they let gay people in. That's basically what SoAnon did, and it doesn't work that way. Because it's a community resource, and once I contribute something, I no longer have prime authority over what happens to it. It's something you need to accept when you make jumps.

Regardless, you've shown an alarming lack of good faith, so I bid thee adieu. Au revoir. Good day. Have fun getting angry at your manufactured "oppressors".

>>51790046
4okebs link or GTFO.

It's that simple.

>>51790046
Yes, I was there. Which is how I know you are lying. You are also not presenting evidence beyond a weak handwave and 'go look vaguely in that direction'.

You are officially full of shit and I am not going to respond to anything more you have to say, unless it is something substantive.

I have humoured you quite enough.

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>>51789943
>>51789950
>>51789968
Ah, I see then.

Well, you learn something new every day.

>>51789995
C'mon, you can't tell me (?? 0.??) doesn't look like an emoticon. AAA

Also, good calls and thanks for clearing up on all counts.

Also also, now I can't stop thinking the timeline Mysterious Heroine X is from is one where Gilga-ahem, COSMO GILGAMESH somehow spliced a Tomie with Saber.

>>51790021
Um, define normally immune? Like Magneto's helmet? Or...rocks...?

Because either way but mostly for the latter, the answer is homebrew/high Essence/Heresy SWLIHN/Malfeas/Ebon Dragon Charms.

>>51790060
>rejected No More Heroes boss

>>51790067
Think about what you are saying there. If you need a capstone and a 100 cp perk to be on par with a 400 cp perk, then something is kind of fucky balance wise.

>>51790074
>Not having custom addons that link every post to its archived version.

>>51790087
You were there, which is why you know what to lie about. Even your own post makes it clear the spite you feel, which supports what I'm saying more than what you are.

If Anon's can 'remake' jumps I'm calling the Alpha Centauri jump. It even gets the canpon events wrong!

So ya. And I remember being told long ago - January this year - that I would not be allowed to remake a JHump. It's why I wanted to make the Survivalcraft jump. (A seperate game from MC, not realted to the 'challange' or 'mod' of MC.)

>>51790073
>It's not a fact that they belong to her, it's a matter of contested opinion
It's a fact unless there was some kind of agreement handing over ownership to Brutus.

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>>51789869
Tomie is Love, Tomie is Life.

The format that I'm working with is admittedly a bit odd (mostly in the Gauntlet protocol part). When I did it for Siren because the disparity between both options wasn't as apparent, I think it was easier to digest, so I decided I might as well see where the exact points of confusion would be (Too lazy to log in to SB, otherwise I'd just have posted there instead)

Basically the gauntlet protocol works depending on how many timelines you choose to have active concurrently. The CP caps are tied to that number of timelines, but you have to have a minimum of three active at the very least. So in order to reach that maximum cap of 3000, you'd have to have all 5 timelines active at once. God help you if you're stuck in Uzumaki while Remina and Tomie are hunting you with love, but that's your problem (and technically mine when I put my test jumpers through it eventually - they cried through Siren in any case.)

There aren't that many backgrounds though. Essentially one corresponding to each of the timelines, and then the survivor background is more of a "general grouping of things you might need to survive". It's "meta" in the sense that it literally is the closest to personal modifications - like tweaking the body and the mind to condition the individual for whatever batshit insanity they're looking to "entertain" themselves with.

I'll see about swapping Strange Fiction around. Admittedly in my head Fragments is simultaneously the most dangerous timeline and potentially the least dangerous timeline.

"Food" in this place is very fresh at least.

What's wrong with having some Tomie cells? As long as you keep them in containment and don't let them butcher themselves to split apart it'll all be alright...right?

>>51790130
You have to ask permission from Brutus, who is the owner of all the jumps.

>>51790130
>If Anon's can 'remake' jumps I'm calling the Alpha Centauri jump.
They cannot.

>It even gets the canpon events wrong!
Canon is spelled with two n's and no p's. Your inability to get that far leaves me skeptical of your ability to create a jump.

>>51790133
Ignore him, everyone.
It's the same shitposter.
He's just changed tacks.
Go about your business, citizens of /tg/.

>>51790144
See >>51790165

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So, um... how about that Strange stuff?

-Sling Ring (100CP) (Free: Enlightenment): For all the mysteries and wonders that make up the life of those who practice the Mystic Arts, there are inevitably things that they cannot do themselves. Things that require a focus… such as this small, two-finger ring that goes on the left hand. To those who are trained in the Arts, it can help create fiery portals to a place that is envisioned in their minds to engage in long-range travel or even travel to adjacent dimensions. Take a walk, but remember to be careful.

-Chakra Books (100CP) (Free: Enlightenment): It can be difficult for those who are unaware of the world around them to grasp that they know nothing. It can also be difficult to show them just how small their worldview has been all this time, or help them. But the first step to learning is awareness. This is a substantial supply of books regarding the body, such as a map of the nervous system, MRIs, and more importantly, chakra points and how to open them. These maps for the body will help bring awareness to would-be students, and how to show them the wonders of the world or themselves. For an additional undiscounted 100CP, you may also gain a substantial collection of spellbooks that will assist in helping you learn the formation of spells, the art of drawing energies to power them, and the basics in casting them. Just be aware that the warning labels come AFTER the spells.

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>It's a Shitposter Sets His Own Bait Up So He Can Respond To It episode
Welp, you folks have fun. I'm gonna occupy myself elsewhere.

>>51790198
Love what you're doing with MCU. Looking forward to the end product!

This looks like it's going to drag on for a while.

Anyway, my plate's clear of everything except finishing Decade with Digger and the eternally-delayed Disgaea DLC.

My current game plan is to finish all of Heisei Phase One (except Faiz, Kamen Jumper wanted to do that one) for a complete saga of karate bugmen. My biggest problem child for this is gonna be Den-O because fuck time travel.

Not sure what else I'm doing. My interests are more sporadic than the thread most of the time. Things I was considering:
>Shantae
>Final Fantasy I/Classic if no one else is
>Maybe pick FoZ back up or help Digger with Geass?
>Legend of Dragoon
>Maybe I'll do more Dragonball jumps later? Its canon is finicky and I kinda want to shy away from high power weirdness. Super is still ongoing and I have no fucking clue how that'd work as a jump.

I feel like I had more I wanted to do but just forgot about it. Don't consider any of these claims, just things I'm considering.

>>51790117

Kind of fucky balance wise basically describes Hokuto Shinken to a tee though.
Although just the 400 Hokuto and its own and just Gou no Ken on its own, honestly are pretty close in ability.
THough yes you do need more stuff to match Raoh with Gou no Ken then you need to match Kenshiro with Hokuto Shinken
Of course that is just before either of them gets Musou Tensei

>>51790042
Couldn't you just ask Lavender over on /cyoag/?

>>51790113
Nah it was good to at least see where the cracks are. A lot of it works fine in my head because I can look at the document and pull out what I had in mind, but after obfuscating it with fluff things tend to get screwed over a bit. I'm only chipping away at this when I'm not busy writing Suzunaan anyways, so it's a bit of a pet project on the side.

>>51790130
It's been said dozens of times before, but no one will stop you if you want to write out a jump for yourself, even if an alternative already exists. Just don't try to upload it to the drive here. If you were sincerely just looking to write a document for your own use, whether it gets on the /jc/ drive or not wouldn't matter to you anyways. Don't spew any bullshit about wanting to share it with friends or whatever either, because you can do that easily enough without having your jump ever be on the /jc/ drive. It doesn't matter if you want to call it a replacement or a remake, if you do it, keep it to yourself and your friends.

>>51790198
I am loving this. Thanks Red for the sneak peeks.

Really looking forward to the complete jump.

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Starting a New Chain. Anybody want to toss me some settings?
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>>51790042
>>51790252
I like Lavender, but no, he could not, as the entire point is to be a pregnancy-focused eldritch horror themed lewd CYOA and thus breaks the rules.

Though since we're allowing Towergirls maybe lewd is allowed now.

>>51789939
The closest one was probably Rin, I mean, it their we were, about say our goodbyes when:

> R: "...wait, back then, you said that you travelled through other worlds right?"
> "Umm, yeah? Yeah, I did."
> R: "Worlds. Plural. More than one and none of them were like this one?"
> "No, though I did find myself one two worlds that ran on the rules of this one, that's how I got my Mystic Eyes and Mystic Crafting knowledge."
> R: "..."
> "Rin? Rin. What are you doing?"
> R: "Hugging you stupid. You're not leaving without me."
> "Umm..."
> R: "Yeah, I know, I was trying to find an excuse so I can go with you, but I figured I owe you the truth this one time."
> "Rin..."
> R: "You changed my life when you showed up. You helped me save my sister and that dumbass Shirou...and now you're just going to up and vanish when I finally got the guts to call you my boyfriend? You are unfair..."
> "Hey Rin?"
> R: "Yeah?"
> "We crossed over a few minutes back."
> R: "...what?"
> "Yeah...umm...also, I kind of need to introduce you some people."
> R: "...they're girls aren't they?"
> "...umm..."
> R: "...they all fell for you and took them along on you little adventure, didn't they?"
> "...well..."
> R: "..."
> "Rin? You squeezing me a little too tight there..."
> R: "-back."
> "Huh?"
> R: "Give it back."
> "Umm..."
> R: "MY CONFESSION!! GIVE IT BACK YOU WOMANIZING CAD!!"

And that was when I realized that my days as a cross-dimensional bachelor were over.

>>51790260
Lovecraft with the Crawling with Love drawback taken in the first jump, and kept throughout the chain

>>51790260
Girls und Panzer.
Ace Combat

>>51790260
Sonichu
Supernatural
Auralnauts
Animal Crossing
Zootopia

>>51790214
>>51790257
-Mystic Dojo (600CP) (50% off: Enlightenment): For the Masters of the Mystic Arts, the grounds of Kamar-Taj is their sanctuary, their fortress, and their school all in one. It is a place where they can open their mind, and truly ascend to new heights in awareness as they explore Creation itself. Alas… even they knew not to focus everything in one place, and it is with that in mind that I offer you this. Whether you wish to place this in a mountain range or have it as a Warehouse attachment, this ancient site contains everything one needs to build an order. Rooms for monks to stay in, a great library to fill with many books, a courtyard to practice, an armory for magical items you may possess, and even a storage unit that supplies as much mundane food, water, and tea to sate those who follow the Mystic Arts. Even better, those who practice here will find their minds opening more quickly than usual, having an accelerated effect that will leave training half again as effective. …oh, and there’s a wifi router installed.

>>51790276
Introducing new friends to old friends, "friends" mind you, is always interesting. Who else did she have to meet and get along with?

>>51790198
Can't stand attention being off you for one second, can you?

>>51790270
Towergirls was rejected. PrincessAnon is doing a Generic Princess Rescue Gauntlet instead.

>>51790309
Kewl!

>>51790315
Sorry that your new bait failed, shitposter-kun. Maybe next time?

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>>51790142
aa

Yeah, it seems a lot more elaborate than the one I remember from Siren. I guess that makes sense now AAAAATomieAA

Eh, I guess. Nothing wrong with it but I do believe 6 is above average.

Coolio, and I can kinda see that.

It only takes ONE master thief and a slip of the fingers. And--ot with those drawbacks it won't.

Also yeah, what >>51790270 said. It's one of those you-lewd-now-what-do CYOAs.

On that note, the sissy life Exalted one gave me a good laugh.

I'm really looking forward to the Fairy King one. It'd be pretty neato if one of the choices involves confronting the Vampire King you can be in the CYOA set in the same 'verse.

>>51790214
I recommend penguinz0, personally. His voice is oddly soothing.

>>51790198
>>51790309
Looks neato. Damned ancient sages never inventing health and safety policies until the modern era.

>>51790217
I'm down for more Final Fantasy.

Huh. Funny how long it's taken for someone to try for the original.

>>51790217
A Shantae jump would be awesome, though you and Digger do great collaborations, so a Code Geass jump from both of would be sick. So I'd be cool with either or. Also looking forward to those Kamen Rider jumps, you always do great work with those!

No matter what you do though, you're a cool guy, Heavens. Thanks.

>>51790315
You clearly can't. What does it feel like, knowing the person you apparently hate most in world will always be better than you no matter what petty shit you do?

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Latest version, any still unaddressed complaints?

>>51790309
Will there be any Enlightenment items for 200 CP and 400 CP price tiers?

>>51790309
I have no idea how I'm going to be able to afford all of this. Looks great!

>>51790270
If he wants to do weird shit on his own chain I don't see why he can't waltz over to /cyoag/ and ask Lavender to help him with a build or whatever. I doubt that whoever it is will bother to post their build for Lavender's cyoa here anyways, we're what, just two days past the last time the anti-lewd anon tried to scream at the not!Towergirlsanon for them to give up?

I wouldn't be as stupid to assume that Lavender would ever bother turning his own cyoa into a jump, firstly because of /cyoag/'s opinion of this community, and secondly because he really has no reason to give a fuck about some anon in a completely different community. If anything Lavender probably wants nothing to do with this place.

Can Eliatropes do portal-cuts?

If not, can anyone point me toward a perk or magic that can?

>>51790314
Saeko
> W-well, she's a good fighter!

Io
> ...HOW THE HELL CAN YOU JUST CASUALLY SUMMON DIVINE SPIRITS!

Mami
> R: "...middle school huh?"
> "R-Rin?"
> R: "WELL I'M SORRY FOR BEING THE ODD ONE OUT HERE!"
> M: "...eh?"
> I: "...eh?"
> S: "I envy the both of you."

>>51790355
>Shantae
>Supreme belly dancing perk while claiming it's a legitimate art and not lewd at all.
Also a drawback that makes you hyper dense and incapable of understanding how your basic actions give off a lewd air and how most of your villains and allies want to lewd you.

>>51790367
Are the scenarios intended to actually be possible with just what's offered in the jump?

>>51790370
Not really, no. But they get a free shoe-in/bonus for the Relic Customization table that I'm going to be making, akin to how the Infested and Tenno got bonuses for their respective tables in Warframe. A lot of the Mystic Art stuff seems to be akin to "here's your beginning, now carve your own path" and that's how I'm handling it.

>>51790376
I'm sure you'll find a way.

>>51790384
I don't think they can, Portamancy from shadow ops can though.

>>51790395
>Io
You companioned and are romancing one of Jupiters moons?