Warhammer 40,000 General

>>51781652
>Tau deserve no mercy edition
agreed

>>51781652
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RutD_HnkZBI
12 hours ago, you lazy piece of shit.

>>51781668

Faggots like this nigger piss me off so much.

>our weapons ONLY go up to S8
>we can't kill other OP things, so just take Riptides and Wraithknights to beat us in your Blood Angels army!

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My very first mini. Arms are a pain.

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Thoughts on color scheme?

>>51781690
My point is that at S8, Tau can't instant-kill T5 models and have relative trouble dealing with AV14. Again, I don't know the BA codex or what they have access to, but it's still good information.

>>51781749

Warp Spiders and Jetbikes are the two best units in the game and don't need S8.

>>51781690

He's a Tau fag, anon. You can't expect them to be self aware.

>>51781749

You realize that Tau have more T5+ models than space Marines, right? Oh right, what am I saying? Of course you don't.

Go read their Codex and compare it to your own. Then promptly shove it up your ass.

>>51781749
Then don't give fucking advice you moron. BA have no T5 multi wound models and marine AV14 is complete shit. Land Raiders cost MORE THAN A RIPTIDE and you can just fucking smash it to death with the Riptide.

Fuck Tau players are so fucking retarded and faggoty

>>51781749
>y point is that at S8, Tau can't instant-kill T5 models and have relative trouble dealing with AV14.

You dont have to, Tau has so much firepower you can glance AV14 to death and drown T5 in wounds considering your basic gun is S5. Besides melta suits and piranhas can eat AV14 after they deep strike.

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>>51781776

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This thread needs BINGO!

>>51781720
there's some flash on the left foot

>>51781775
>>51781776
>Every post literally says "I don't know the BA codex, this is just general advice"
Why are you surprised that I don't know what BA has? I've never even seen a BA player. My locals have Eldar, Nids, IG, DE, Harlequins, and one Space Marine player who literally only fields fucking Dreadnoughts.

Did I say Tau were bad or underpowered?
Did I say BA are on equal footing or better than Tau?
Am I defending the Tau codex or claiming that their units are okay?

I did none of that. A BA player asked for help and, as a Tau player, I'm telling him what I feel are my codex's biggest weaknesses so he has an idea of what he can do against it.

>>51781859

Why the fuck are you responding to a discussion about BA with non-BA advice?

Your advice is fucking terrible anyways because you don't know shit about the game other than Tau and think Tau power levels are the norm.

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>>51781652
>>51781676
Herp derp one zero I got an idea, my beepboops! What if we, like, /burn/ space? No hold up, wait, I mean it. Like, them sneaky fishes just fly through space right? They don't know warp. So like, what if we just set their road on fire?

Fuckin right? Ok! Lets do it! Fuck yeah, that was sweet.

Oh hey, look, two transmissions from Beli-motherboard fucking saurus rex! It says, "News from the front: We done fucked up. that necron bitch must have known I'm a fucking hack cause the moment I let him turn that shit on Celestine fell out of the sky and CADIA FUCKING BLEW UP. PS: Don't use the space burning weapon, cause it'd be bad."
Ohhhh fuck oh fuck oh shit. Hold up, calm down. Cycle your processor. Maybe the next one is good news. "I SAID 'DON'T' USE THE SPACE FIRE OMNIDAMNIT! NOW THE FUCKING DAEMONS ARE JUST WARPING IN SPACE FIRE EVERYWHERE! MOTHERBOARD FUCKING DAMNIT, YOU BEEPBOOPS HAD ONE JOB."

>>51781730
I dig it, but you've gotta neaten up those highlights.

>>51781859
Your advice was to take AV14 against an army that has more melta slots than SoB.

>>51781873
I know, I have very shaky hands and it's very difficult for me but I'll keep trying. And thanks.

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>>51781652

>tfw after an evening of gaming at the local GW with FW models that no one can tell are fakes

lovin' every laff

>>51781872
>sentient daemon fire warp storms

welp i need to go start a metal band so i can copyright this name

>>51781859
>telling him what I feel are my codex's biggest weaknesses

Land raiders and big critters aint Tau weaknesses, your army can deal with almost anything most armies can throw at it.

>>51781901
Angle your brush and go back over it with the base color to neaten it up.

>>51781864
>Why the fuck are you responding to a discussion about BA with non-BA advice?
Because the question wasn't
>How do I play BA
it was
>How do I beat Tau
which I tried my best to answer.

>Your advice is fucking terrible anyways because you don't know shit about the game other than Tau
Was any of my advice wrong? Did I say something that was factually incorrect?

>and think Tau power levels are the norm.
Where do I state this? If anything, the post you're quoting indicates the opposite. I know you have a (justifiable) hateboner for Tau, but no one here is discussing whether or not Tau are one of the stronger factions in the game. We're discussing what the faction's weaknesses are.

>>51781886
Riptides don't have melta unless they take Fusion secondaries, but even then I don't think a RIptide's going to be within 9" unless it has to.
You're right about Crisis Suits having an easy time of that, but AV14 was a singular piece of advice out of a relatively long list of Tau facts.

>>51781872
Nice going there fuckplug. Your plan of "lets burn the space" turned into giant, sentient and demonically possesed space-firestorm. Very nice. Can you just do something useful? Go watch over that most important bastion-world in the galaxy and please, try not to blow it up will you?

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>>51781886

>more melta than SoB

C'mon now. Let's not get silly, here.

>>51781936
I washed the basecoat with nuln oil before highlighting so it's going to be a pain to get the right shade. In fact the highlight on the red side literally is the base color.

>>51781848
That's just the talon on the heel at an odd angle

When are Orks going to get a fucking update so I can get back into this shitty moneysink of a game?

>>51781977

Remember that Farsight Enclaves has 6 troop slots per CAD and every single troop can take two fusion guns.

>>51781938
>>How do I beat Tau

AS BA YOU STUPID FAGGOT HOLY SHIT

>>51781938
>Where do I state this? If anything, the post you're quoting indicates the opposite.

>our firepower ONLY CAPS OUT AT S8 OH WOE IS US RIPTIDES ARE SO EASY TO KILL

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> Second time playing Kill Team: HoR
> Second time playing Warhammer, period
> Pick Dark Angels, roll with 250 points of Scouts and Veterans
> Split into 3 squads of 5
> Enemy goes with Craftworld Eldar, decides to go with 3 Shining Spears and the rest a mix of Howling Banshees and Dire Avengers
> We agree that objective is to reach 3 out of 5 wounded warriors and either kill them (Eldar) or rescue them (Me)

> Eldar wins initiative, all-out sprints towards me with everything he's got
> By the end of t1 movement phase, he's within spitting distance of my Veterans with his Shining Spears
> Banshees and Avengers are moving around to the south to flank my scouts
> Decide to target his Shining Spears with heavy weapon in the Veteran squad
> Snake eyes
> Veterans quickly get surrounded by Howling Banshees

> Scouts wreck his Eldar melee specialists with Overwatch and Grim Resolve
> Scouts succeed on every Armour Save. Every. Fucking. One.
> Scouts annihilate his Exarch with massed bolter fire
> Scouts pick off his Shining Spears with a few precise shots from 20" away
> Scouts vault through cover like gazelles and rescue the wounded warriors by the end of t3
> At that point, 3/4s of his army has been wiped out, and all he's managed to do is lock my Veterans in assault and pick off a couple with his shuriken catapults
> mfw a bunch of interns did what hardened veterans couldn't

Is every game of 40k this exciting?

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>>51782012
Here's what 1850 points of Tau meltas in a CAD look like, for a total of 66 Fusion Blasters.

>>51781922
>implying

What, do you expect people to confront you if they know they're fake? How do you know everyone just didn't say anything? For all we know you could have walked in there with such garbage paintjobs and shitty conversions, everyone in the store knew you were some poorfag who was experimenting with cheap recasts, but was just too polite to say anything. And trust me, this has happened, just lurk any WIP thread long enough.

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>>51781922
Dat feel when 95% of chinacast models are indistinguishable from real forgeworld. But nobody can actually tell the difference.

> Mfw someone asks if any of my shit is from china, and I make them guess which models are from china
> Mfw they immediately try to guess that the actual legit models in my collection are the chinacasts

>>51782029

OVER SIXTY FUSION BLASTERS!

>>51782029
You know the sad thing is this isn't meant to be like a serious list. And yet it is very close to what an actual tau list could look like. Swap about half those fusion blasters for plasmas and maybe one or two flamers per squad and you've actually got a powerful list against basically anything.

And Tau players still don't get it.

>>51781922
>>51782050
>mfw recastfags are so pathetic they have to make up fake stories like this to wank over and feel good about themselves

but y

These days you can pretty much just say any painted army is fake, because nobody paints their fucking armies and you'd spot recasts immediately unpainted so only recasters paint their shit

>>51782073
>b-b-b-b-but they don't have any markerliiiiiights

I love when those dumbasses think Riptide Wings need markerlights or that Riptides have no offensive firepower and are just punching bags.

>>51782050
>Order a hammerhead from the chinaman
>Half the price of actual GW plastic including delivery
Worst model I've ever seen in my life, so much fucking slippage, bubbles everywhere, even at half price it wasn't worth it.

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>>51781690
>>we can't kill other OP things, so just take Riptides and Wraithknights to beat us in your Blood Angels army!
yes? ally in a knight

monstrous creatures are something that needs to be taken aware of in the modern game, I don't like it, but this ain't third ed

t. DARK ELDAR fucking player

>>51782084
Uhhhh... hi?
I didn't mention riptides or makrerlights, got the wrong response?

>>51782023
>AS BA YOU STUPID FAGGOT HOLY SHIT
And my very first post said
>Tau player here. I've never even glanced at the BA codex, nor do I even know anyone who plays it.
>Here are tips for beating Tau
Should I apologize for trying to give generic advice? Was it wrong of me to list the main weaknesses the faction has? And again, did I say anything that was factually wrong or incorrect?

Someone asked for help, I gave a list of weaknesses he could apply, and this apparently triggered you even though we agree on how strong the Tau codex is.

>our firepower ONLY CAPS OUT AT S8 OH WOE IS US RIPTIDES ARE SO EASY TO KILL
Did I say this makes Tau weak? Did I say Riptides are easy to kill?

The fact that Tau weapons almost all cap at around S8, and that their only source of D weapons comes from LoW options, IS a good thing to know when building a list to deal with them. I'm sorry your BA codex can't take advantage of that like most other codexes can, but I prefaced all my posts with
>I don't know what the BA codex has, this is just generic anti-Tau advice
so I don't know how you can genuinely hold that against me.

Aside from "girls can't be space marines", is a chapter based off the Celts, led by Boudicca IN SPAAAACE a shitty idea?

>>51782078
> Mfw chinafags actually care about the hobbyist side of 40k
> Because well-painted models hide the minor defects

>>51781971
Surge you, fleshy. I've been reassigned to Cyraxus. They want me to council some of the old Automata. At least I'll never have to see those stupid fucking Tau ever again.

>>51782090
>Knights
>against Tau
>whining about Blood Angels by mentioning Knights

Kill yourself, you don't even deserve your 5E plastic update.

>>51782108
storm wardens

>>51782108
Yes. Boudica is a meme.

The Storm Wardens are a cool chapter though.

>>51782108
female inquistor hanging out with marines is alright

It says Independent Characters pass Look Out, Sir tests on a 2+. Does that mean that character can take a hit for another model on a 2+ or another model can take the hit for the character at 2+?

>>51782087

This is why I tell people not to buy recasts of plastic models. If you can't afford FW, then fine, whatever, but all these morons buying recasts of plastic is stupid as fuck, especially when most plastic models are very cheap on eBay new on sprue. I guess I can understand Knight and other big model spam players doing it though since they're like $100 a pop and they need a bunch of them.

But just yesterday I saw some dumb nigger talking about buying recast Death Company and not knowing the difference between plastic and resin because he kept thinking I was talking about FW when I called him out for buying recast PLASTIC.

>>51782121
well if you're not going to try and adapt, why are you entering tourneys and playing competitive matches with a low-tier army?

>>51781977
52 points buys the tau player model with two meltas and he can get nine of them per squad.

AND they're jetpack models

AND they're 3+

AND they're t4

AND they're multiwound

AND he can put more stuff on top of those models

He can do the same thing with flamers for even cheaper.

Sorry but Tau out sister the sisters easily.

>>51782097

Those aren't fucking weaknesses, which is why it's shit advice and you should stop fucking posting.

Here's a weakness you can exploit: OUR GUNS ONLY GO UP TO S8!!!

No, you dipshit, that's not a weakness. Other armies can barely get more than a couple S8 guns in their entire fucking army without making weird builds.

>>51782136
Another model. Characters are the ones who take LoS tests.

>>51782136
look out, sir! pushes wounds off of the character onto the chaff. he cant take a hit for someone else

>>51782151

This isn't even tourney discussion you dipshit.

>>51782164
>>51782165
Ah alright. Thanks

>>51782151
>barges into a conversation midway through without even knowing what it's about
>thinks Taufags don't go full WAAC at even the most casual games
>doesn't even know this conversation is about a casual BA player trying to beat obnoxious Taufags in a casual setting

Kys faggot like seriously

>>51782171

Not the guy you're replying to, but why are you so upset about something that only matters in competitive settings? Are you such an autist you don't know how to request a casual game with friends?

>>51782056
>codex: Judge Dredd

Does anyone know the exact height of a Space Marine? So far I've seen people say that they're 7/8/9 feet tall.

Not that anon, but I'm a Taufag and my Blood Angels buddy keeps taunting me, saying that my army can't stand against the light of Sanguinus.

Our first match is next week and I don't want to table him.

I just watched the new dawn of war 3 trailer, I did not know that imperial knights could deep strike!

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>>51782162
>Those aren't fucking weaknesses, which is why it's shit advice and you should stop fucking posting.
They're not? Here, I took a screenshot of my original post. This is all shit advice? None of this is applicable? Nothing here is useful?

>Here's a weakness you can exploit: OUR GUNS ONLY GO UP TO S8!!!
Yes, not being able to instant-kill T5 units and having to rely on Crisis Suit meltas to hit AV14 are things you can take into consideration. I don't know what that Tau player's specific list is, but if he's fielding multiple Riptides, Stealth Suits (OSC?), at least one Ghostkeel, and can afford drones on his Command squad on top of that, he probably doesn't have too many Crisis Suits in the first place.

Again, for some unexplainable reason, you're attacking me as if I'm saying a S8 cap is a WEAKNESS that makes Tau WEAK, when I'm just saying it's something you can take into consideration. You're purposely misinterpreting my post because you get triggered by a book detailing rules for plastic figurines.

Even if, hypothetically speaking, S8 didn't matter and you're genuinely saying that players shouldn't consider the Strength-average of a codex, that doesn't magically invalidate everything else that was posted, and it absolutely doesn't warrant this sort of buttblasted reaction to general advice on how to beat Tau coming from someone who AGREES with you.

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>>51781319

>>51782239
varies but the average is about 7-7.5

>>51782239
in canon its ~7ft.
people talking 9 ft is just fan wank.
Though there are some 10ft marines they're mutants of one of the cursed founding chapters (black dragons).

>>51782244
i'm pleased to see guardsmen
too bad they probably won't be playable
being an IG player is suffering

>>51782244
the imperium can deepstrike whole churchs if it wants to.

>>51782266
IG always goes playable in the second expansion. DoW3.1 is probably going to add them and Chaos in, if Chaos isn't saved for 3.2.

At this point I'm just hoping we get Dark Crusade/Soulstorm-level of factions. DoW was a disappointment, even if they had Nids.

>>51782012
>>51782159

I can hit 68 meltas in that list, and can make that number even higher with combi. I was just memeing 60 multi meltas

>>51782118
Im so willing to bet that Cyraxus will be such a fucking shitfanfest.

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Has any Thousand Sons player gone up against Tau here, or vice versa?
That would be a game I'd like to see.

>>51782282
I loved Dow 1 and 2, I really hope they don't fuck this one up

How do Orks fare against Tau? A buddy of mine and I are getting back into the game, and those are his main armies. He also plays Space Wolves, but I refuse to go up against them with greenskinz.

>>51782292

>the Tau player shoots 20 T4 3+ models off the table on T1

What a game

>>51782260
>>51782265
Okay, thanks guys.

>>51782304
Badly.

>>51782304
poorly
very poorly
orkz got hit hard with a nerf bat for no particular reason

>>51782343
What do I do?

Should I just go ahead and start that Necron army I've been planning

>>51782239
Canonically 7ft.

>>51782351
play anyway, just request your friend to not be a fucking cheesemonger

>>51782304
just ask your tau buddy to lube you up before the rape show

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Thoughts?

This is literally the first list I've ever made and I have only a middling idea of what I'm doing. I just need a final list so I can order and paint what I need and start actually playing the damn game.

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>>51782171
>>51782184
>This isn't even tourney discussion you dipshit.
so why are we getting so butthurt about people bringing stronger armies if it's a casual game

you can TALK TO YOUR OPPONENT BEFOREHAND and ask what kind of match you want to have, if you're not bringing a competitive force and just want to have a fun match SAY THAT TO YOUR OPPONENT and if that's not the kind of game he wants to play, simply find someone else to play

the amount of people who can't cope with simple fucking social situations is mindblowing

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>>51782413
>40k reboot
stop this meme

>>51782375
Oh, and for those who don't know, the Hunter Cadre rules are a 12 inch Supporting Fire (Units within range of an assaulted target can overwatch) and the ability to shoot after running/flatout.

>>51782292
I played against a thousand sons player and he could reroll everything in the psychic phase. Huge pain in the balls but I did streamroll him since he 20 units in a 1500 point game and I just pretty much pelted him to death by turn 4

I read the first book of "The Beast Arises" series and while the characters and action were great. I couldnt help but feel like it was like playing a game that gives you blue balls. Is it worth reading the other books or should I just go ahead and drop it? I mean the introduction of the orks was pretty cool and it is interesting to see what is going to happen from there but its like 12 books...

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>>51782292
>mfw deep striking 2 great unclean ones into a tau gunline

I love watching the blueberries panic

>>51782375
Vectored Retro-Thrusters aren't as good as they sound. Same with Shield Generators.

You'll have a harder time against vehicles without Fusion Blasters, but Ion can deal with it fine.

There's no reason to have two 10-model squads of Fire Warriors. Your Fireblade's squad should obviously be more full for the Volley Fire, but you can split one of those into two five-model squads. Having two smaller squads means you can fire at two separate targets, move to two separate points, and your opponent will have to waste at least two shots to wipe it.

Drones are very bad units if they're not attached to a Drone Controller or if you're not taking a Drone-Net formation, but the latter is too expensive for a 1000-point game. Tetras, Pathfinders, or a Sniper Drone squad should be a better choice.

If you do stick with the drones, remove one of the squads from this list and make a Hunter Contingent instead, using the Drone Network to fulfill your Auxiliary requirement. With the Contingent, you can boost your BS by 1 with coordinated fire and better capitalize on your Markerlights.

>>51782384
>hur dur it's okay if the army is strong since it's a tournament it's not like this is a casual setting
>HUR DUR WHY ARE YOU GETTING BUTTHURT ABOUT STRONGER ARMIES IN A CASUAL GAME

Are you fucking retarded? Which is it?

>>51782496
delet this or i delet you

>>51782384
Sort of like how you were too retarded to know what the conversation was about? Why are you still talking? The fucking irony lost on all these morons.

>>51782496
You are a faggot

>>51782413
Ultramarines, obviously.

>>51782159

I had some Taufag try to claim MEQ was better than XV8 point for point, because MEQ were 14 points per wound but XV8 cost "more points because you had to buy their guns", as if marines didn't have to pay for their special weapons.

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>>51782516
no idiot, ask beforehand to tone his army down or run a different lower tier army, so that you can have a balanced equal match

this isn't like a video game where you queue and you're forced to play the match or you get retribution for quitting

i have literally never ever played a match I didn't want to play, yet everyone here on /tg/ seems to either be a masochist or have the social skills of a rock and just rides down the river letting whatever happens happen to them

also
>ask how to beat tau
>get told how to beat tau
>sperg the fuck out and sook, take it into the new thread to sook some more and sook through the first 100 posts

for what purpose

>>51782554
>asking an opponent to intentionally play worse to cater to you
I'm not going to ask a person to do that because I am capable of experiencing shame.

>>51782481
Its interesting series and gives good insights to 40k-lore.

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I must say, the box for the Eldar triumvirate is beautiful. It's very detailed and looks suitable for such important characters, and comes with a cool picture of all three too.

>>51782529
how did you reach this wonderful conclusion anon?

also why are you so angry? injecting 10 litres of tren every day or something?

>>51782579
>I am capable of experiencing shame.
>Takes BA into Tau

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>The Last Church
Holy fuck, this story actually made me cry. 40k is the only series that can drive me to tears so easily.

>>51782579
it's not about intentionally playing worse, it's about some armies are objectively stronger than others. It's unavoidable in games where patches are meticulously designed and rolled out every few weeks or so to try and fine scale the balance, it's DEFINITELY going to be a factor in a game where rules writers write whatever the fuck they think seems cool and roll out "patches" every 3-4 years.

Even then, if you don't want to play equally powered armies, you can still have a fun match if you're outmatched if you try to dole out as much damage as you can.

>>51782602
Really? It was mostly just Big E tipping his fedora.

>>51782602
Eh, you can really tell that it was written by a non-religious person.

>>51782505
What would you suggest instead of the Vectored Retro-Thrusters? Target locks? Or just nothing?

Yeah the lack of serious AP weapons was worrying me. Maybe the increased movement ability would let me get away with taking Plasma Rifles firing at half range instead of Cyclic Ion?

Ah good point on the fire warriors.

Drone net as in the Farsight one, right? Yeah that sounded great when I saw it but I'm new and don't want to dump money into a 1850 point army. Just a minimum-sized group of Pathfinders would be fine as a replacement for one of the drones, then?

Thanks for pointing out Hunter Contingent. I can't believe I ignored that and just fielded a Cadre core as an army. As I said, first time.

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>GW goes full mk IX.
>nothing is compatible
>40mm bases
>all non-ultras are in 'dataslate compendiums'

How fast do you reach hobby escape velocity for 30k or something else?

>>51782675
I'm interested in building and painting an Afrika Korps army for Flames of War's V4.

I don't have an FLGS, I just order from GW and build and paint models because I can

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>>51782675
I don't play space marines.

>>51782634
>>51782640
What really got me is that it made me realize Emprah is kind of a huge asshole, especially after reading about why some of his Primarchs rebelled against him. I feel really sorry about the Word Bearers. Also the ending is kind of a punch.

>>51782496
> Markerdrones, riptides and stormsurge intercept one to death.
>Stormsurge stomps the other one in melee.

How are emperors children? Slaanesh is my favorite god, but he never seems to get any love.

>>51782773
>he

>>51782775
ambiguous

>>51782723
>I feel really sorry about the Word Bearers.
Don't
Emperor is an asshole and a hypocrite, at leadt in the BL canon, but fuck that shit it's not canon no matter how much the donghunter and carnac say it is, but lorgar is a massive bitch.
He should have called out emps on his hypocrisy at monarchia, he should have not gone worshiping daemons because daddy doesn't love me, he should have realized that bobby G didn't hate him, and he shouldn't have turned all his brothers against the emperor and damned mankind.

Lorgar deserves no sympathy, only death for being such a bitch when he had the perfect opportunity to call the emperor out on his hypocrisy and lies

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What are you working on, anons?
Play any games?
Plan to?

Pic related is my(budget bitch) Wrack to Haemonculus conversion. I've named him Ul'Ikai the Caprecious. He's from the Hex Coven. He thinks the "floating on extended tailbones" fad among the Haemonculi is tacky.

I'm thinking of going to my local GW tomorrow to debut him in a couple of matches because I ain't got shit to do tomorrow.

>>51782801
>weighted with 5c coin

dude me too

>>51782801
>Play any games?
DoW

>>51782815
Yeah, he was a bit flimsy on the base and a penny seemed like too little. Glad to have him ready now, though. I don't have to use one of my Archons anymore.

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This model triggers Space Marine players :^)

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>be well-adjusted human bean
>go to local GW across the street to get some shiny new Maulerfiends
>giggle all the way across the street, already knowing what I will find
>take a deep breath before entering the store
>some pink-haired retard goes before me on the line
>extremely annoying voice
>fucking faggots I swear
>notice the new Eldar models on the counter
>chuckle quiety while waiting for my turn
>pink-haired faggot has some problem with his credit card
>is taking fucking forever to pay for his shit
>employee seems to lack the sense to tell the fag to come back later
>unfomfortable&slightlynervouscheetahs.google
>fuck it, I want my new models
>watch some cheetah vids using local Wi-Fi to pass the time
>few minutes pass
>pink-haired faggot finally gets his shit together and pays in cash
>notice employee putting new Triunvirate in the bag before handing it to pink-hair faggot
>he finally leaves
>approach the guy on the counter, can barely contain laughter at this point
>try to make some small talk to distract myself
>'s-so h-how are the new Eldar models selling?'
>'actually, they're called Aeldari now'
>sudden, extremely high-pitched laughter
>mfw counter guy literally jumped in surprise
>mfw farted loudly while walking back home in tears, didn't even care
>mfw gonna have to explain myself tomorrow since I forgot to buy the Maulerfieds
>mfw still giggling like a maniac as I type this
>mfw Aeldari

>>51782801
I'm playing my first ever 30k game in about 10 hours. Most of my stuff will be proxy, as I haven't really had any chances yet to build up a 30k section of my collection.

My army's theme is going to be the 30k-era Raptors, when Corvus Corax used forbidden technologies to create a genetic hybrid of primarch and space marines, and instead fucked up to accidentally create a horde of unstable mutants. As my army rules, I end up losing the Legionnes Astartes USR, and instead get "Fleet, Fear, Rage, and -1 BS" armywide. So mostly stupidly fast hideous mutants that become murdermachines in close combat.

It helps me too that nobody in 30k is fearless. Although it doesn't help that fear is so impotent of a rule in 40k that I actually DON'T even know what the fuck it does. And this is in spite of me memorizing vast swathes of multiple codexes and the core rulebook.

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>>51782898
>Unpainted

>>51782898
why wouldn't you just.. turn the oval base sideways

I don't understand

>>51782773
Getting squatted.

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Any SW players out there to give me feedback on my first list?

>>51782670
>>51782375
>>51782434
Different guy here.

Vectored Retro Thrusters are not very good on crisis suits, since their initiative is low. Drones help but don't bother. You'd only need one VRT in the whole unit because it gives hit and run to everyone. You don't need to replace it with something else - learn "boys before toys." More models is usually better than decking your models out with gear. Buff commander is your exception.

I assume crisis suits are with the commander. You should be alright against light and medium vehicles with ion, thanks to tank hunter from the Puretide chip. But no AP2 is a weakness. Get another missile broadside, or 2. Have them all be in different units so they can combine firepower. You have the heavy support slots. Then you can give the crisis team plasma instead.

Iridium Armor is a better for your commander than a shield generator. He'll take less wounds, save against AP3, and make 25% more saves. And S8 won't cause instant death anymore.

And as anon said, split the fire warriors. If you only have the 20 models, I'd recommend 10, 5, and 5, putting the Fireblade with the squad of 10. Consider giving him a shield drone - won't get wrecked as easily by cover ignoring AP4, and 12 models in the unit means no morale checks until you lose 3.

Pathfinders are better than drones. At 1000 points you'll need 1 drone unit as your auxiliary (not the same as drone net) to have a hunter contingent, so you should still take the markerlight ones, but the ones in your hunter cadre should be replaced by real pathfinders.

>>51782904
Milhouse isn't a meme.

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How would you fix Tyranids?

So you guys said Ork versus Tau is pretty much a wash, but I'm still looking to expand my Ork army. So which units would at least be a smart choice against the Tau?

>>51782950
revert all the power creep of the last ~2 editions

>>51782950
>Return biomorphs they used to have in 4th
>unfuck the fluff back to 4th ED

Basically Id take the 4th ED codex and add the new units that have come out.

>>51782579

You are playing a bad army against a good army. 40k is hilariously unbalanced. Top tier armies can wipe out entire bad armies before they even get a turn.

T-minus 3 months or so till the new edition

>>51782801
>>51782815
Man that's a good idea. I'm going to glue nickles to the bottom of all my infantry bases so they stop falling over all the damn time.

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>>51782967
you'd have to points drop it a bit, but ultimately it would work pretty well once adjusted for the addition of AP in close combat.

Do we have a scan of the 4th ed book or should I split the spine on mine to do a quality scan for a fandex project?

>>51782904
>to get some shiny new Maulerfiends
Heck yeah

>>51783006
theres a 4th ed scan in the OP mega

>>51782904
Cheetah poster makes me smile every time.

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>>51782927
Not sure I can fit the points in for another broadside and the iridium battlesuit. Do you think that two pathfinders are overdoing it? Also, is it worth having the support SMS turret on the 12 strong group of Firewarriors?

Sensor spines on the fish are just for the extra 5 points I couldn't find anywhere else.

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>>51782375

You're welcome

Will Tau be in Age of Gullyman?

>>51783075

Tau earned the respect of Ultras , of course they will

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To make DKoK sentinels should I saw a Krieger in half and glue it to the legs of the sentinel guardsman or just order 2 packs of the sitting Kriegers and cut off the weapons

>>51782723

Don't. The Emperor did nothing wrong to the Word Bearers, it's not his fault Lorgar is a manchild who refuses to listen to his direct superior's orders (don't fucking worship me).

Same goes for Magnus.

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>>51783044
Easy response.

>>51783042
Oh yeah, the turret. I'd dump it since you now have enough markerlights to ignore cover. In fact, two pathfinder squads is plenty for a small list. I'd make the drones into gun drones instead.
Don't sweat it if you can't fit more broadsides. That's more a tip for when you start to go up in points. You won't be ignoring any marine armor saves, but you can drown them in wounds. Just learn to prioritize your enemies.

>>51783105

>marines with no metal boxes
>Dev squad with no drop pod
>scouts that will be killed by riptide's early warning override the moment they appear

ok

>>51782026

There are great games and there are boring games, but the great ones make up for the boring ones.

>>51782738
>implying a great unclean ones getting that fucking close to a stormsurge
>intercept a great unclean one by wasting your most prodigious firepower for a turn
>cue loud ass king crimson solo

>>51781652
I've had good success with Pask in a Punisher that has Multi-Meltas and a Lascannon with a Demolisher buddy, but I've been considering putting another Punisher with Pask as a buddy instead of the Demolisher. Is that too much S5 and not enough flexibility?

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>this makes marine players ass mad

>>51783162
>>intercept a great unclean one by wasting your most prodigious firepower for a turn

Usually you'd want to bring 2 stormsurges so letting 1 intercept isnt that big a deal

I've got a question regarding Leman Russ battle tank. Mine is equipped with Battle Cannon(Ordnance, Large Blast), Lascannon in the front and Heavy Bolters on the sides. Which weapons can I use and will any of the weapons fire Snap Shots, when:
1) the tank remains stationary;
2) the tank moves 6";
3) the tank moves 12".

>>51782588
>>51782554

T H E I R O N Y
H
E
I
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O
N
Y

>>51783191
Everything but the Battle Cannon snapshots.

>>51783173
>thinks it's just marines

Nobody likes Taufags except other Taufags. Tau hate is universal.

>picks worst Tau Sept
>thinks unpainted stuff is worth showcasing
>probably plays with them unpainted too
>unbased even on the finished paintjobs

Sasuga Shas'O

>>51783200
>>51783191
To add to this, you can't outsmart the rule by firing the other weapons first then firing Ordnance last. If you intend to fire Ordnance all other weapons are Snapshots. It makes the Demolisher and Battle Cannon a lot worst. The Demolisher is at least S10 and AP2 though so it still has a use.

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Anyone have an idea for creating Lelith Hesperax GW is out of stock and her model is kinda old?

>>51781730
Looks like a perfect clown ride.

>>51783173
Tau suits just get more and more retarded huh?

>>51783213
>S10 AP2 Ordnance
Does that mean it can easily kill everything but Fliers?

>>51783200
>>51783214
Thanks.

>>51783214
>Her model is old

I guess it has been entire years since the big Dark Eldar overhaul. Weird that some factions don't get new models every edition huh?

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>>51783223

k brah

>>51783224
It does a really good job at penning vehicles, but it still has a only a 1/6 chance to explode them in 1 shot. Still, it can ID T5 and below, pierces all armor, is very likely to glance or pen a vehicle. It's likely to do something every turn even if it's just a big distraction.

>>51783194
the irony of what

what are you blathering about

>>51783118
Thanks for your help.

Bit of a challenge getting that last 10 points down so I can pick up the iridium battlesuit on the commander but whatever. At least now I have a clear plan of what I'm going for so I can FINALLY order another box of stuff. I have the Start Collecting box so now all I have to do is buy

Another Start Collecting box (I'll want to field more Crisis Suits eventually and suits + a FW strike team is 110 monies whereas I can get a SC box for 75)
-10 Fire Warriors and 3 Crisis suits
Optimized Pathfinder Team (Slightly cheaper than buying them seperate)
-10 Pathfinders and a Devilfish
Broadside
-Broadside
Commander
-Commander
Cadre Fireblade
-Cadre Fireblade
Either a third Start Collecting box or just some Fire Warriors
And a pair of FW torsos and backpacks from a bits site. The four bits GW would like me to buy another box of models for.

All this talk of Tau and no one can tell me what Ork units might stand a chance against them?

Come on boyz, I have an itch to buy something, or maybe loot something. Help an orruk out

>>51782925
Wolf lord, lose the frost sword, go regular power sword. You're S5 with rending, anything you can't is either best avoided or could be resolved with melta bombs.
Good point efficient thunderwolves.
Wulfen are tricky. Frankly, i'd lose some of, if not all of the stormfrag launchers to make room for a little more anti vehicle equipment. Your list looks VERY susceptible to medium-high value armour.
Otherwise, good cheap units. Excellent first list.

>>51781730
I'm not the best painted so I can't comment too much on your technique, but the color scheme itself looks nice and pretty unique for Dark Eldar.

The whole army painted in the split color fashion would probably look very striking, so keep at it anon.

>>51783270

orcs are shit right now. unless you are just playing purely for fun , prepare to lose a lot

>>51783283
I know they're shit, but there's got to be SOMETHING that makes fighting Tau less of an uphill battle

Anything to keep me from starting a new army

>>51783232
>Point out one thing is retarded
>"Yeah but this is too so mine isn't as bad"

Guilliman's model is atrocious too, as are the progressively larger Tau suits that seem to be emerging. What's your point?

>>51783291
Just play what units have performed best for you and feel it out. Experience what works and what doesn't. Everyone will tell you the same thing, that nothing you have will work.

>>51783270
Orks suck against tau no matter what. Play imperial guard against them.

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>>51783291
>Anything to keep me from starting a new army

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>>51783299
>>[autistic screeching]

>>51783291
Why dont you ''''''loot'''''' a riptide wing? Cause thats about all you've got.

>>51783162
I wouldnt care. Threat eliminated, time to run away and/or cap objectives.

>>51783323
Cause looting was too fun so it was removed

Does anyone know what e-mail to use to contact GW about rules questions?

>>51783331
Which is stupid, because GW essentially made free money off of Ork players buying vehicles that didn't match their army, but whatever

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just a reminder

>>51783348
What a strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

>>51783348
But I watched a bunch of videos made by a guy who loves Dark Eldar

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>>51783299
>>there's got to be SOMETHING that makes fighting Tau less of an uphill battle

>>51782992
God I hope so. Wishlisting begins.

>Consolidating into assault again
>Something to fix failed charges and overwatch
>AoS(Yes fuck you) styled MC damage/wound charts
>Psychic powers completely revamped

Also something needs to be done about formations I'm just not sure what.

>>51783378
Fighting cancer with cancer just results in more cancer

>>51783331
Ally it in obviously?

>>51783378
Anon, that's a mountain. You just had to go full mountain, well now nobody gets to be happy.

>>51783387

Get rid of them. Problem solved. Formations were a mistake.

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>>51783348
>tfw a Guard player
>Transitioned to look more like a girl back in 5th
>Regularly bust deep into a girl who casually paints Nids
>Occasionally blow a CSM player when he's stressed out
>CSM player took a picture once of his load in my mouth and sent it to a mutual friend who plays Eldar
>Eldar player told me he's jerked off to it many times

What is it with this game?

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>>51783348
>chaos
>shit taste
, this shit is objectively false

CSM is the "army" (because it's really like 10 different flavours of army) with the most potential for artists and modellers to go berserk and really make your force unique & stand out

there's so much variation with chaos that if you claim CSM is "shit taste" then you are the one with literally no taste, unpleaseable

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>>51783391

its too late anon, just spread your ass checks wide open

>>51783410
none of their rules seem very potent except for the yncarne

most eldar lists are probably still going to be scatspam

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>>51783405

>getting upset over bait

>>51783419

Eldar theme music, 7e:

https://youtu.be/Hy8kmNEo1i8

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>>51783430
honestly i just wanted to post more models and convert more people to the CSM cause, anon

Guy brings cute girl to store today. I go and play a couple games. I cone back and all of the other guys are talking to her masking 40k jokes and she is laughing despite not getting anything. Everyone focuses squarely on her.

I didn't realize this community was so odd

>>51782904
So Cheetah Anon plays Chaos. What Legion?

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>>51783437

>>51783439
That's weird. At my store there's tons of girls and no one is awkward. There are even some trannies and fags and no one is weird with them either. Everyone gets along nicely. The girls are pretty cute too.

>>51783419
I just played a 1000 point game as Farsight tau vs eldar.
He ran like 10-15 scatbikes, a wraithknight, scatbike farseer, and those template d weapon guys in a wave serpeant. I ran a min strength retaliation cadre, min size drone net vx-2-0 and an allied detachment with a fireblade, min strength strike team, stealth team with homing beacon. I only deployed the strike team and stealth team and went 1st. I did almost nothing turn one, deep struck everything in (strategic warlord trait for reroll reserves) turn 2 and got fucking mown down by scatter lasers, d scythes (the d template guys that are t6 right?) and by turn 3 only had 1 strike team with fireblade, 2 marker drone squads, commander and the riptide and had removed the wave serpent, the guys inside and nothing else, then the riptide got charged by the WK and die instantly. I lost all 2 crisis suits and the broadside in my turn to soulburst.
I know you guys love hating on tau but that was bullshit, fuck me.
Also played against my ork friend and kind of stomped him, though is nobz with power klaws did remove my riptide, felt bad for him though he has spent less money and doesn't run formations.

Hello friends, I have a question regarding Skitarii.

Is it likely for them to ever get their own transport, or will my Vanguards be walking across the table forever?

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>>51783453

>>51783461
Some great balance in 7th. You either stomp or get stomped.

>>51783462

Rumors showed off something that looked like it could be part of an AdMech transport, but don't hold your breath. Could have easily been for AoS dwarves instead, or something else entirely.

>>51783462
should be getting access to the 30k mechanicum toys when fires of cyraxus comes out, which includes the triaros armoured conveyer, a 20 man, fast transport with armour 14(effectively 15) front

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why arent you frantically painting Ultramarines in anticipation for the return of the spiritual liege

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>>51783453
Why?

>>51783462
>walking forever
LOOKS LIKE THERE'S GOOD FUCKING NEWS FOR YOU, IMPERIAL ARMOUR 14 FIRE OF CYRAXUS, MORE SHIT FOR WHATEVER MECHANICUS ARMY YOU PLAY BOYO AND RUMOUR OF A NEW TRANSPORT, FUCKING YES REEEEEEEE

>>51783462
I feel like lack of transport was added as an intentional weakness and to un-homogenise some of the armies

then again it might just be gw being retarded

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Anyone have this but in a bigger size?

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>>51783173

>>51783473
>>51783480
I do not know much about these Forgeworld 30k things, how exactly do you port them to 40k?

>>51783483
I can understand that, I was just curious. My Vanguards always show up late to the fight but they are a very fun unit.

>>51783468
mmm, kind of made me sad, my closest game was 1500 vs skitarii + cult/admech. I was running a less optimised list since I didn't own my riptide then (got it 2 weeks ago, once I reached 1500 points, I own no other MC/GC other than a ghostkeel) and while I lost, it was only 6-8 and it was because of poor positioning, he list tailored against me as well, which was kind of rude desu.

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>>51783490

>>51783387
formations need to be restricted. nobody complains about the slaanesh formations or the formation that lets you take 6 sentinels. making them cost points and promoting weaker units would go a long way.

>consolidating into combat
fuck the gunline guys. i don't recall this coming up much in my 4th games but i didn't assault or get assaulted much

>AoS damage on MC
congrats you put the nids in a deeper grave. it's an interesting idea but i feel like you get the tank/walker lovers still complaining.

>psychic
getting warp charges to deny is helpful (you couldn't do shit in previous editions unless you had a psychic hood) but it does still feel wonky. i wish witchfires hit automatically or were easier to hit with

>>51783494

>go to forgeworld site
>look at page for model
>click on .pdf file for rules

>>51783494
Imperial armour is not 30k, it's 40k
Though it is effectively adding 30k mechanicus shit to 40k, just ask tg now and then if it came out and take a look at it. Remember that forgeworld is just as much 40k as it is 30k, since they love them tau suits and imperial armour 14 is going to be a robot/suit fest by the looks of it.
You don't port them, the rules are made for 40k and so are the models.

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>>51783461
>Bringing a riptide at 1000pts
>expecting sympathy
>mfw

>>51783510
All you did was resize it, I can do that.

I wanted a high resolution one. Looks all blurry.

>>51783540

I know, I was being a little bitch about it.

>>51783530
>>51783532
Oh, I see. Thank you then!

I'll ask my group if they're okay with FW stuff and prepare to work with resin.

>>51783522
Nobody compains about those formations because the units in them were at best okay or just plain bad, and a formation that doesn't make them that much better isn't going to entice anyone to get them. Doubly so if you need a lot of them to run said formation. BUT, I do agree that formations have gotten out of hand.

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>>51783537
>not bringing 3 riptides

So I'm planning on getting a Warhound titan, but cant decide what colors to paint it. My main army is Imperial Guard, a regiment fluffed as the pocket regiment of an Ordos Malleus Inquisitor. Are there any Titan Colleges that work closely with the Inquisition or should I homebrew my own?

>>51783522
I think it would be better to make new unit types.
Battlesuit (can be damaged by haywire/immune to poison)
Wraith Construct (something else, make it fucking killable without D in the case of the WK)

>>51783561
Ordo Sinister probably.

>>51783504
It makes me sad too. My games always play out the same which makes me sad. I'm a Guard player and basically turns 1 and 2 are loads of fun. Turn 3 is when everything is kind of crippled or shooting snapshots or down to one heavy weapon. Turn 3 can be surprisingly fun, or a series of whiffs. Turn 4 and 5 are always the same, everything that was half dead is full dead and I'm just running and going to ground and desperately trying to do anything. It feels like a close game for 3 turns, then suddenly I'm down by a lot of points.

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R8 my chaplain.

>>51783537
he brought a WK and scatbike spam, the ork player also wanted to vs the most cheese list I could field without FW since he's fucking masochistic and wants to die, not really my problem, I always ask my opponent if they want to do a cheese or casual game, no need to be salty.

>>51783561

Mars or Lucius Warhound?

Either way, painting it in matte army green with ornate white stars for decoration would be awesome. What color is your Imperial Guard?

>>51783462
Have fun in the no transports club. I would kill for a trukk tier transport or even just the ability to dismount from my chariots.

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Side view

>>51783575
Well it's a shame, since guard used to be good/kind of op back in 5th, but instead of getting nerfed (aside from vendettas going up in price) they just got ignored, makes me sad since I think they're pretty cool, hopefully they get a good codex in 8th.

>>51783603
That's when I used to play and it was a blast back then. No matter who I played against every game was close and full of crazy moments. I'm still trying to grasp how to use Guard in this edition.

>>51783580
>>51783597
he's cool, but i dont see a rosarius so is he really a chaplain?

>>51783476
Because I can't see their symbol as anything but a toilet bowl lid and it has ruined them for me.

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>>51783580
>>51783597

I'm a fan. Good. I like the kind of messy look you gave it, it's got character.

>>51783614
It's the Legion of the Damned sergeant.

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>>51783490
reverse image search brings this up instantly, you lazy shit

>>51783613
Well there are like 3-4 types of guard in this edition
Infantry spam:
Green tide for guard, conscript blobs to an extent where there is no more room on your side of the board
Mech:
Vet teams in transports, some tanks, maybe a flyer or 2 with more vets/scions
Tank:
Pask with tanks out the ass
Flying circus:
Valk formation with infantry, scions with valks, vendettas/vultures for support.

>>51783640
I got that one too, still not big enough.

>>51783636
does that preclude the addition of a pendant of some sort to represent the chaplains rosarius, as much a badge of office as his crozius arcanum, which is also missing?

>>51783433
jokes on you, this song is amazing

>>51783563
add in multiple wounds and we'd get somewhere

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>>51783574
I thought the Ordos Sinister only had Warlord Psi titans.

>>51783587
Mars Pattern, FW doesn't sell the Lucius anymore. Was planning on getting the Plasma Blastgun and Turbo Laser. My regiment's colors is green, bronze, and khaki with black solid and red stripe featured somewhere usually on the left side. They serve an Inquisitor I named René De Guiles. I already have a Freeblade Knight painted in the color scheme too.

>>51783684
ordo sinister also has psi-imperators, not sure about warhounds

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>>51783684
I was pretty happy with how my Inquisitor conversion came out so I decided he deserved a name and some backstory. Used the name from an Antagonist in a DH game I ran once, except he was an Ordos Sepulturum Inquisitor. Went with Malleus in 40k because I like daemon hunters.

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rate my space marine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=783slFWP61M

Is it just me, or is this a very, very basic color scheme? All those black surfaces still look flat as fuck.

>>51782413
They are already here. They are called Grey Knights.

I know they are supposed to be anti-daemon and all, but they litterally never lose in the fluff. Epic fight with chaos winning? GREY KNIGHTS

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>>51783684
>>51783711
FUCKING PSYKER BULLSHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>51783720
>model looks like shit
>not even a space Marine

>>51783730

same as ultramarines

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Any suggestions on my list?

>>51783727
Theres no real way to give black armour depth desu

its just highlighting and weathering tricks

>>51783727
What else are you supposed to do with black and gold? can't shade it, and highlighting a flat area is hard.

>>51783720
NotCodexApproved/10

>>51783727
Eshin Grey is such a dark grey it's hard to tell if it's even there. A little TOO subtle a highlight if you ask me. maybe Dawnstone would work better.

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>>51783727
Left this off. The finished Black Legion Power Armor.

Fucking tau whining again reee

>>51783727
Should've based with Eshin Grey (possibly priming white), darkened with shittons of nuln oil and then edge highlight with ulthuan or celestra grey.

>>51783403
Next on stories that are not true, fat man tells how much he loves his model girlfriend who finds his fat a turn on.

returning guard player here, I know guard lists are a bit odd in this edition, but is 1 platoon blob+vets+mech still viable?

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Be honest with me - how shit does my spider look?

>>51783473
>when fires of cyraxus comes out

so never.

>>51783811
Tidu up those messy bits where the blue spills onto the black, and give the black some highlights and that would look fine.

>>51783748
Remove Heavy weapons squad, take two tauroxes instead for two squads of Infantry, drop the third infantry squad and take a conscript blob to wrap your russes, Ideally also drop the vets, take another chimera for the company command squad and squeeze in a ministorum priest to buff the conscripts as needed.

>>51783811
Moderately shit. Layer Eshin Grey over the black so it isn't so flat, then edge highlight with Ulthuan grey.

Wash the white and blue bits with nuln oil.

Keep your hands steady.

>>51783771
Yes. Because black is difficult to shade easily a majority black mini is going to look pretty flat unless you're using some more advanced techniques.

>>51783662
What do you mean by multiple wounds?

>>51781842
Orks are a melee race? Why do they have I2 then?

>>51783829
>>51783837
Thanks anons. I'm not done yet with it, but when I start painting I usually end up going for details and miss parts that would need more work.

>>51783831
>tauroxes
fucking why
just take a chimera

>>51781842
Celestine needs to be added
Eldar Superfriends/soulburst
Age of emperor can now be age of gulliman.

>>51783874
twin linked autocannons that can shoot at whatever instead of having to have the entire heavy weapons squad fire at the same target.

Also 30 points cheaper overall for that ministorum priest to make the conscripts a little less shitty.

>>51783890
dat AV tho

>>51783901
Not much different considering how easy it is to see the side armor of a Chimera. Almost no one ever hits my front armor.

>>51783216
>>51783280
Thanks

>>51783795
Okay not all of it is true. The Eldar and picture part is made up. The rest is real because this area is full of degenerates.

>>51783901

The Russes are going to draw more fire than two
>tauroxes.

Unless your opponent is dumb. Then the Russes just sweep up whatever was trying to kill two cheap as fuck 3hp boxes.

Anti vehicle options wouldn't give a shit if front AV was 11 or 12 desu so go for the economic choice.

>>51783405
In other words you just read the entry for your army and are too stupid to realize anon was shitting on every faction in the game.

Why can't chaos fags ever take a joke?

Anyone got Feb white dwarf in pdf?

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Hey, want to play a game against my Renegades?


Not really mine, just gauging the reaction to someone fielding converted Kriegers as renegades

>>51783811
You want my opinion

Black is a BAD color for a majority of your model. It should really only be for interior sections and even then it still needs to be highlighted or your model will lose a shitload of definition. Look at the legs on my battlesuit. They're painted with Abbadon Black and drybrushed to hell with Ironbreaker so all the edges pop.

Also the interior bits and scythes are a poor color choice. It's like a blue-green gray. I think it should be darker and less saturated. Stark contrast can be good but I don't feel that it's working here.

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>>51783950
And I forgot the damn picture

>>51783944
look too damn clean and orderly to be renegades imo
they look nice though

>>51783944
>sure anon, I like their aesthetic
Would actually playa against, they look nice, though you could chaos-ify them a bit more, spikes or something else, idk.

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>>51783641
Interesting. I like to go with some blobs and tanks. This is what I'm going to try next if I can play an 1850 game. Sometimes they want different point values I'm not ready for.

I know people don't like Armored Sentinels with Lascannons, but I've had some nice success with them so I want to try them again to see if it was just good luck for a few games or if they are decent. I like to Prescience them if I can.

>>51783852
like the cult mech torsion cannons. each unsaved wound is d3 wounds

>>51782351
As a Tau player I have never won a game against necrons. I have never gone full cheese (stormsurge, more than one riptide) and nor would I, but they are damn hard to remove from the table and the amount of high strength pie plates is ridiculous. (melts firewarriors/pathfinders/crisis). Play smart and tau have a hard time against the toughness and ability to stand up again necron bring to the table

>>51783960
>>51783965
I would definitely Chaos them up a bit with Chaos sigils etc
Alot of people I play against would probably sperg about Kriegers falling to chaos, they're apparently as devout as Grey Knights since they're constantly repenting for their past rebellions to the Imperium.

>>51784010
What on earth is he using to give out multiple high str large blasts. The only ones I know of are the monolith (which is just a bad leman russ), or the doomsday ark (which can't move).

>>51783648
>"still not big enough"
>Every eldar ever

>>51784030

More like every Eldar player's girlfriend ever

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WHY CANT GUARD SERGEANTS TAKE LASGUNS INSTEAD OF CCW JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER SQUAD COMMANDER EVER WHAT THE FUCK REEEEEEEEE

>>51784012
recently looted weapons and uniforms from an imperial regiment they defeated

there is your fluff that explains everything

>>51784092
Not sure how I feel about having 200 Renegades stripping 200 Kriegers of their uniforms, I may just have their minds warped by Chaos or something.

>>51784028
Both. Also the formation with constantly reviving scarabs from the start collecting and independent roving destroyers(? the necron centaurs). I've managed several times to wreck it with suiside fusion suits, but by the time that usaulally happens hes taken enough bites from my lines. Also, his troops are generally able to hold objectives that my FW cant oust.

>>51784101
kill them in their sleep
if you were a renegade, would you leave perfectly fine flak-armor and lasguns lying around?
Most renegade armies are not really spoiled for choice when it comes to weapons.

>>51784065
Yeah I never got that.why does the ONE guy in this squad have a chainsword and a pistol?

>>51784102
"It" being the monolith and the doomsday arc. Recently acquired a hammerhead and skyray/second hammerhead, going to try that shit inside a hunter contingent with a retaliation cadre.

>>51783986
So what do you mean by that?
You want more weapons that cause more wounds so that MC/GC become easier to deal with?
That seems cool, as long as each faction gets that kind of weapon, otherwise it'll be like grav and be op for 1 faction (or a small group) and people will hate it. Maybe it should be a weapon that does d3 wounds against MC and d3+1 against GC or something like that.
>>51783981
Here is my take on it.
I left 50 points for th 2nd astropath, couldnt find it

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HQ: Legio Custodes Tribune w/ Praesidium Shield, Cyber-Familiar, Digital Lasers, Paragon Spear 275pt

Elite: Legio Custodes Hetaeron Squad of 5 w/ 2 Praesidium Shields, 2 Paragon Blades, and 2 Solerite Gauntlets 420pt

Troops: Legio Custodes Custodian Guard Squad of 5 w/ a Magisterium Vexilla/Sentinel WarBlade 285pt

Troops: Legio Custodes Custodian Guard Squad of 5 w/ Melta Bombs 300pt

Troops: Legio Custodes Custodian Guard Squad of 5 w/ Melta Bombs 300pt

Dedicated Transport: Legio Custodes Coronus Grav-Carrier w/ Extra Armor 140pt

Troops: Legio Custodes Sentinel Guard Squad of 5 w/ Melta Bombs 335pt

Heavy Support: Legio Custodes Caladius Grav Tank 195pt

Heavy Support: Legio Custodes Contemptor-Galatus Dreadnought 250pt

Total = 2500pt

>>51784119
For whatever reason it ate my intro text.

"So I just got back into Warhammer after taking a six year break, and the Custodes just sucked me back in. I know very little about the new rules, but was incredibly proficient in 5th Edition. Anyway, C&C is welcome with this lsit since it's the first shit I've done in YEARS."

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>>51783453

>>51784065
just give them a bolter for that 1 point,
best results with spare SM scout arms

>>51784065
They could in 5th

I agree its annoying, would be far more convenient to have him armed identical to the most of the squad even if it's just to have one less differently-armed guy to account for when shooting.
As it is, fully kitted out guard squad will be...
>6 lasguns
>the heavy weapon
>the special weapon
>Oh and a laspistol

>>51784119
Custodes are a 30k force(unless something changed?). Not saying you cant play against 40k armies but going above 2000 points is rare these days.

>>51784128
>degenerates can't even clean their sprues properly

top kek

>>51784126
are you sure thats for 40k and not HorusHeresy/"30k`"?

Coz i am not. I know the 5Custodes squad in Prospero Burns has 40k rules but I am unsure of the other stuff

>>51784139
>9 people
What about the 10th guy?

>>51784113
Torsion Cannon: The other gun that the Breachers can take. One shot at Strength 8 ap 1 with a unique rule that allows you to take off D3 wounds/Hull points for an unsaved wound or penetrating hit, though not for a glancing hit.

what if you added it to some heavy weapons like autocannons?

>>51784133
Giving them a bolter is worse for convenience. Different strength and AP, will need to be rolled separately where even the pistol can just be lumped in with the las-gun wounds

>>51784126
>I know very little about the new rules
You should familiarise yourself with them them then, 5e knowledge is only good for the BS/WS/S/T charts, everything else is baggage that'll lead to making mistakes in current ed.

>>51784149
You lose 1 guy if you take a heavy weapon...

>>51784149
Heavy weapons are formed from two guys.

>>51784149
HWT's are gunner and loader.

>>51784113
Is there a missing image?

>>51784161
>>51784164
>>51784166
Literally never used HWTs, my bad.