Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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First for Ultramar

Second for khorne

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Still making changes to my list, still looking for advice.

Feedback appreciated.

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Does anyone know what specifics apply to add FoC Celestine to an army? Can it only be added by a sisters contingent, or any imperial one?

>>51767920
Third for the Silent King!

>>51767939
I think the Scions would do better with Meltas than Plasmas. You could use the saved points to put a third Melta into the Veterans.

Personally I don't really rate the basic Leman Russ. For the same price you can get an Exterminator with hull Lascannon and Multi-Melta sponsons, and it can happily trundle around firing all of its weapons at once.

>>51767939
I would make the weapons in the sisters squad be the same; two meltas or two flamers, hence you give them an specific goal in mind and more tools to do it, and not two possible goals and not enough of them.

>>51767900
Are there any good books I could read concerning Tyran and the discovery of the tyranids?

>>51767900
meh
https://mega.nz/#!0VMEUDwY!sHAG1fL-7LjOSFSnCqN8IMnMcU2990lRvX5czVBZE6c
https://mega.nz/#!RBlDHBwJ!dzZZqU_71Cd_xDQZBF84nlFLrD1Qsyp6gZ0JqZPQxk8

Would you boys recommend for renegades and heretics with some chaos space Marine friends?

How can we make terminators great again?

>>51768120

This.guy took time to think about it

http://variancehammer.com/2016/10/10/2-aint-what-it-used-to-be-fixing-the-space-marine-terminator/

>>51768120
nah, John Connor messed them up pretty good

>>51768120
Increase their WS and BS to 5, so they can make the most out of their relatively limited number of shots/attacks. Then let them re-roll their armour saves. It means you don't have to worry about them being drowned in small arms fire, but still have a definite weakness - AP2 weapons.

Ideally this would go hand in hand with a nerf to Grav-weapons of some kind, so some schmuck with a Gravgun can't YOLO and kill half a Terminator squad in one lucky round of shooting.

>>51767941
Since she is not a SoB you can only use her in Space Marine armies.

:^)

>>51768160
Or just remove Grav, beside marines that can spam them and the Mechanicus that can have like what 3 in a shitty model?

Just remove them. Is not like GW haven't remove rules and updrades from already existing plastic kits

>>51768198

grav should be AP- rending, and a random glance on 6s, not an automatic immobilize

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>>51768022

Check'd and yes. I highly recommend it. Fun to play and paint.

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>>51768212

Go on

>>51767941

Any Imperial CAD.

>>51768022

forgeworld armies with variety and options are almost universally more interesting than GWs copy and paste shit

>>51768022
>renegades and heretics

You mean Rapiers and Rapiers.

>>51768198
Removing Grav entirely wouldn't be a good idea. It does play a useful role - that of killing Monstrous Creatures. It just needs to be tweaked so it isn't also good at killing vehicles and heavy infantry, because at the moment it renders Plasma guns completely pointless and Meltas situational.

Just radically cutting the number of shots it can fire would work. Grav-Guns could become Assault 1 and Grav-Cannons Salvo 3/2. The Admech's heavy Grav-Cannons could remain as they are, since they don't get Amps for the re-rolls and are tied to slow, inaccurate, fragile models.

>>51768198
>just removing grav suddenly makes Terminators good

Wrong, dipshit. So fucking wrong I can't even begin. Terminators weren't even fucking playable BEFORE grav was made, when all the armies were piss weak as fuck and the strongest armies was literally Space Wolf CAD and Imperial Guard CAD Leafblower.

>>51768212
And one shot, maybe two but double the point cost.

Honestly why the fuck this thing was made beside sales is beyond me.

Hordes? Flamers/Rapid Fire
TEQ? Plasma/Melta
MEQ? Plasma/Melta
Vehicles? Melta
Horde and Vehicles? Missile Launcher/Autocannon

Maybe if grab was made to specifically counter MC, but right now beside low save or no saves models the thing is a no brianer.

>>51768212

Grav shouldn't hurt vehicles at all. God you idiots are retarded. How simple is that? Just make it not affect vehicles. Not this stupid HUR DUR AP- RENDING shit.

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>>51768245
Who the fuck kick your cage nigger?

I was talking about Grav, anyone knows terminators have been shit since 3rd.

>>51768252

AP - rending makes sense given that current state of the game. Look at scat laser or anything else medium strength lots of shots. Usually never more than AP 4 outside of knights or at minimum in the heavy slot of the FoC

>>51768278
Why not just make it a Gauss weapon at that point.

See how stupid it looks? The ability to hurt vehicles in anyway plus being a useful tool for everything is what makes the grav so annoying and broken. Making it easy to spam is even worst.

>>51768302

I won't disagree with any of that

>>51768120
Terminator armour gives +1 wound.

There.

>>51768022

100% here's my list

+++ DG + Zombies (Warhammer 40,000 7th Edition v2019) (1849pts) +++

++ Vectorium (1331pts) ++

+ Core (1259pts) +

Chaos Warband (1259pts)

Chaos Lord
Bike, MoN, Sigil, The Pandemic Staff, VotLW

3x Chaos Bikers
2x Plasma Gun, VotLW, MoN

2x CSM Squads
MoN, Plasma Gun, VotLW

Chaos Terminators
MoN, 3x Combi-melta, VotLW

3x Havocs
4x Autocannon, VotLW, MoN

+ Auxiliary (72pts) +

Spawn (72pts)
2x Spawn, MoN

++ CAD (Renegades & Heretics: IA13 / IA:SoV v2006) (518pts) ++

+ HQ (85pts) +

Renegade Command Squad (85pts)
Covenant of Nurgle, Ordnance Tyrant

+ Elites (185pts) +

Renegade Heavy Ordnance Battery (120pts) - Militia Training
Zx Artillery Carriage [4x Crew, Earthshaker Cannon]

Renegade Heavy Ordnance Battery (120pts) - Militia Training
Artillery Carriage [4x Crew, Earthshaker Cannon]

+ Troops (90pts) +

Plague Zombie Mob (30pts) [10x Plague Zombie]
Plague Zombie Mob (30pts) [10x Plague Zombie]
Plague Zombie Mob (30pts) [10x Plague Zombie]

+ Heavy Support (158pts) +

3x Renegade Rapier Laser Destroyer Battery (79pts)
Militia Training, Additional Crew

3x Renegade Rapier Laser Destroyer Battery (79pts)
Militia Training, Additional Crew

>>51768309

T5 is mathematically better

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Been running Marines for a while, and i've got a few various units from other armies that I want to run together.

Any criticism would be appreciated, figured I might as well get some usage out of my scattered units.

>>51768323
I'd like to see terminators go to T5. It would make them good enough that we may see people start using them.

>>51768278
>Look at scat laser or anything else medium strength lots of shots

I'm sorry, I thought the whole point of you crying about grav and brainstorming nerfs for it was to get AWAY from Eldar levels of power.

>>51768350
Why sailor Jupiter? Cortez is better, cheaper and sexier.

>>51768323
T5 would be good too.

But I think 2 wounds would make them more durable against plasma and what not.

GW should go full jew and bring back loyalist converts for the tratiors legions and new arch traitors for the loyalists. Would collect another night lords army if they did so

>>51768367

No waifu no laifu

>>51767900
Is there any tool where I can try out a chapter color scheme on my pc first?

>>51768367

Frankly, because I run up against an absolute tonne of Psykers in my meta. She'd be invaluable to deny their shit.

>>51768372

Gives plasma a place. Grav would still wreck.

http://variancehammer.com/2016/10/10/2-aint-what-it-used-to-be-fixing-the-space-marine-terminator/

Read ya douche fags

>>51768407
Grav will be nerfed into the ground in 8ed.

Just you wait.

/request/ - Does anyone have the picture of some Death Korps, walking down a street with a tank behind them, there is some led scenery and dry ice smoke effect...

It's all models / scenery, not a drawn picture.

I can't find it for the life of me, thanking you in advance

What's gonna happen after the third gathering storm book?

>>51768501
No one knows.

Which army will get new stuff in the third gathering storm book?

CSM?

>>51768522
SPESS MEREENS

>>51768501
Warhammer - Age of EMPRAH

>>51768350
The meltavets should get stuck inside a transport or they're never gonna get anywhere, the Inquisitor squad is cute but hot shot lasguns arent that great.

Overall the army has a low model count, Id drop the Inquisitor squad by like half and just stick them in a rhino, then use the saved points to buy a bare bones infantry platoon (130pts for 25 models), and then use the platoon as cover for the tanks and more elite units, it might be good to drop the flamervet squad for normal infantry if that was what you planned to do with them.

Heres my 1500 list, and my main way to break your tanks would be a deep striking terminator squad. Having a squad between them and the leman russ can help a lot, they can force my squad to stay more than 6" back to keep the russes safe from melta fire and keep my terminators from assaulting them. In contrast, having no ablative squads to protect them and I could deepstrike terminators right next to them and kill the whole squadron with combi-meltas

>>51768522
Grey Knights, Ultramarines, whatever faction you could say Cypher belongs to.

If you mean the fourth book we have no clue yet and it'd be pure speculation.

>>51767900
>The Black Library (Please stop using Rubrics as book marks)
>Please stop using Rubrics as book marks

:(

I'm thinking of giving up on my guard army. I like the theme but the stats for the point costs are just utter shit. On top of this, you're stuck building VERY specific ways just to even have a chance at a shot of beating even mediocre armies.

>>51768476

Yeah, Eldar and Tau were ruining the game in 6E and GW nerfed them nice and good to make the game way more balanced. It's only a matter of time before vanilla marines get the same treatment!

>>51768612
Play SoB it is worst and more expensive money wise.

That said man up you are playing guard have some dignity

>>51768612
Any army is playable if you do it right and play well, I mean it might be unsuitable for competitive play but Its still fine in pick me up games. If you're looking for a competitive army then yeah it might not be for you, but if you love your guard keep playing them, who cares if you win or lose?

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R8 my 1985 points list pls.

>>51768646
>Any army is playable if you do it right and play well

One army is playable only if your opponent is retarded.

>>51768649
1850*

>>51768248
>>Maybe if grab was made to specifically counter MC

Bingo.

MCs have steadily gotten out of hand (except in the hands of the one faction famous for them, Nids). The biggest issue is simply that causing wounds to MCs is quite pointless until they lose their last one, and insta-killing them is limited to a very select number of weapons that specifically inflict Instant Death. This contrasts directly to vehicles which are all vulnerable to Instant Death from any Ap2 or Ap1 weapon in the game, and every penetrating hit they take will decrease their effectiveness. Vehicles also typically don't have access to saves like MCs do.

There isn't a good answer in that list to MCs with decent saves (obviously an MC with shit saves, like a Squiggoth, goes down like a bitch to autocannons). Plasma only chips one wound off, melta is too short ranged and only chips one wound off, missiles only chip one wound off and bounce off 2+ saves. Plus all of that stuff is wounding on either 4's or 5's. Those ain't good odds.

I hate Grav (though it's hilarious deploying my Green Tide against a Grav spammer). But it was a result of an infection that has been spreading for some time.

>>51768644

SoB are actually better than IG depending on your area. For example when you have a lot of melee or knights, SoB are far stronger than IG due to the army being pure melta.

>>51768644
Juat because others have it worse doesn't mean it's worth just dealing with it.

Why was Chaos so chill before/throughout the heresy? In the 40st millennium you have daemonic hosts devouring whole planets but in 30k the gods seem content to just whisper in ears. Is it because the Emperor got HORUSED? Was he keeping it in check?

>>51768664
>thinks he has to "deal" with his army

You picked your faction for the wrong reasons then. I don't give a shit how weak my army is, I picked it for the lore, models, looks, and how much I enjoy hobbying with it and seeing it on the table, even when losing.

>>51768666
That happened in 30k too.

>>51768653
orks?

tyranids?

>>51768653
Try throwing some allies in or something.

>tfw I want 30 repentias in my army

>>51768676

I'm onto you, GW

>>51768670
I like everything but losing EVERY match. It's not fun getting absolutely fucking wiped every game.

>>51768662
Playing against Ravenwing Black Knight bike spam the majority of the time. Not fun whatsoever.

>>51768680
>tfw I want 30 lightning claw terminators in my army

MELEE EDITION WHEN GW

>>51768685

Get ignores cover AP3 somehow

Also play with more terrain that the bikes can't get through.

>>51768680
I got 9 plus the dominatrix.

Assuming the player with the Knights ignore them.

You can play the Attack on Titan theme and enjoy Repentias destroying the Knight in Melee.

So far it has worked three times the other 4 times it didn't work. Was due to the lack of attack on Titan theme song playing

>>51768705
I would but I'm also the only one in my meta who even owns a knight.
I do face a melee Dark Eldar/Harlequin army and probably Space wolves.

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>>51767918
best primarch hands down

fight me traitors.

>you'll never get a chair in Roboutes round table

>>51768693
>Get ignores cover AP3 somehow

doesnt exist for 90% of the armies.

>>51768659
desu, I put grav kataphrons in my army purely because of my GK mate who LOOOOVOES his dreadknights and termies (well that, and I love the models). in the beginning when I was just tstarting my army (and a few others in my group) he was mostly wiping us. he bases his army around DKs and termies. only recently he started fielding more marines when we taught him how easily he can lose with low model count that can easily countered.

>>51768723
What the fuck is wrong with you?! You charge your own Knight with Repentias then!

>>51768687
Play in a maze with 3" wide corridors, never any longer than 12" between each turn in the maze. Put a roof on the maze to stop any funny business. Welcome to Space Hulk.

>>51768666
Because failaddon has been spending 10000 years blowing up pylons so chaos can cause rifts easier

>>51768732
SoB can get ignore cover AP1 onces maybe twice if you spend the points.

Love Dildo of Double Act of Faith
Superio Fat Cow for Leadership 9
Loud Moaners in your tanks to re-roll those failed Leadership test.

>>51768732
Guard can do it, but you have to spend ~500 points on artillery and $200+ on models and HOPE that your orders go through.

>>51768501
Papa Smurf wakes up and now they are BFF with eldar Ynnari for whatever reason

>>51768269

>or just remove grav

Why pretend that you weren't suggesting removing grav would improve terminators?

>>51768120
Mostly by making storm bolters good. Assault terminators are still decent, thanks to storm shields, so you need to have something which makes only the tactical ones better. Storm bolters are also generally overcosted at the moment, so it's two birds with one stone. I'd say making them Assault 3 would be about right.

>>51768358
But that makes low-strength weapons even worse, when they already struggle to be relevant. Do we really need to nerf lasguns and shotguns any more? Plus anything that boosts T becomes truly horrific if it can be stacked onto terminators.

>>51768476
Probably around the same time all the ork weapons which are described as manipulating gravity get the grav rule.

>>51768501
A storm, duh.

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>>51768821
Because terminators are shit regardless.

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>>51768725

>>51768670

Then why play the game at all.

>>51768836

Yeah they are, thus "removing grav" is a retarded suggestion within the context of the discussion. Doing so does nothing to improve terminators, so why even suggest it?

>>51768847
the guy you are replying to is a faggot but competitive 40k is a path only for the retarded.

>>51768850
Because I was not talking about terminators you retard.

The original post talked about terminators and Grav I just responded to the Grav part.

God damn it have your (you)

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>>51768841
>that tiny ass helmet plume

>>51768854

>wanting to win in a game where the objective of the game is retarded

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>>51768874
Your poor taste is noted anon.

>>51768803
With the Pimp Cane orders Will be assured

>>51768879
Its retarded because the game is not even slightly balanced. It puts you in a toy soldier arm race with other talentless retards whose only success in life is 40k. Meanwhile Gw laughs to the bank. Just play cool shit that's decent. You must be american

>>51768841
WHERE IS THAT HELMET FROM?

>>51768907
chaplin enoki plus the guy altered it with gs to make it bigger

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>>51768841
>open helmet

why

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>>51768938
cause then it would look like this

>>51768948
Doesn't look terrible.

>>51768725
>girlyman
>best
Thats not how you spell Dorn, brother.

>>51768998
Best Primarch is Sigmar
Followed closely by Gordon Freeman

Some say Samus Aran is another Primarch but that would be saying silly things like the 40k universe is inside a bottle within a wizard tower in warhammer fantasy

>>51768978
doesnt look as cool either

>>51768998
What an odd way to spell Alpharius.

>>51769015
I didnt realize half primarchs counted :^)

>>51769031
kek

How do we improve Tyranids?

Hey Dude, my mate is being a spud and wants to make the cheesiest list available for the Tau.

Please post a screenshot of the cheddar.

(1750pts please)

>>51769054
NPC

>>51769054
Squat them. They're a copy/paste of Zergs

>>51769012

>warhammer fantasy

what's that?

How many here are looking forward to the new Mk. of armour for Space marines?

Coming out with Roboute.

>>51769070
Citation needed buddy.

Mk8 is the last mark and that's it.

Made me respond/10

>>51769063
you sure it's not the other way around?

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>>51769091
zergs came first

>>51769104
nice b8 m8

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So I want to make a space marine army, but I don't have anything in the way of bits, so I want to try and make it using just the weapons that'd come in their respective boxes.

How did I do?

>>51769089
You'll see.

We're gonna be getting almost custodes level space marines enhanced by Guillimans blood.
It's super daft, but oh my it is definitely happening.
They're marines 2.0
And slightly bigger. Think truescale.

>>51769147
>Believe me guys!!1!

Again, either post elements that support your claim.
And if that was true, we'd see those marines next to Guiliman in the WD pictures, with the Fallen and the GK. Yet we don't.

>>51769178

Thing is, I actually have a picture that confirms this.
I'd show it if there was a way I could ensure my source doesn't get found out =)
But here on /tg/ is definitely not the place.

And nah, it's not " BELIEB IN MEH 111!"
It's " You'll see"
I don't need to convince people when I know it's coming ;)

>>51768367

Is Cortez Tuxedo Mask?

>>51769120
broodwar zerg design > modern zerg design
tyranid is going the wrong direction toward modern zerg design

>>51769191

>I have a source but I can't show the source, believe in meeee!!!!

No source, no confirmation, you're making shit up.

Until you can actually prove your claims, you hold as much water as any other anon, i.e. none at fucking all.

>>51769230
Sure thing mate
I'm just getting a kick out of knowing this and nobody believing me.

You're reasonable in your requirements.
And if you can think of a way I can show a picture without you or anyone copying it and spreading it everywhere, then I'm willing to show you it.

But until then? I'm gonna enjoy seeing people entrench themselves and say " No no no"
until it comes out.

>>51769230
This.

Believe me guys, Abbadon is going to be revealed as the good guy all along and will lead Chaos into a monumental defeat then sepuku himself for repentance!

>>51769199
Yes.

Fucking mods for kicking drawfags out. We need Celestine and Greyfax porn now!

>>51769245

You can justify it however you want, man. But until you provide an actual source, you're just another dude.

Watch this:

>Lion'el Jonson wakes up and turns traitor

Look at that. I've made a rumour that's got just as much credibility as yours. You can't prove yours, I can't prove mine.

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>>51769012

>>51769266
But anon Dark Angels are Traitors. In fact every marine is a Traitor. Leaving behind the purity of the Human form.

>>51769266

I just offered you a way to see it.
Find me a way that nobody can spread the picture and I'll give it to ya.

>>51769288

Just post it. If it's true, it's going to be released at some point anyway. The onus is on you to prove yourself, not on me to keep your state secret bullshit up.

>>51769303

I don't have any real impetus to prove my self.

" Prove your self, prove your self, prove your self"
Then you get the option to see it and go " Nah man, it's cool. I don't care"


I don't need you to keep any rumormill going.
The issue is this picture is from a very small fora consisting of very few people, and as such, a person will lose their job if it's traced back.

>>51769330

Then why did you post in the first place, retard?

>I have rumours but I can't prove any of them!
>We'll believe you if you post proof
>GOD-DAMN WHY KEEP THE RUMOURMILL GOING

>>51769336
Because I get a kick out of your entrenched disbelief?

I've given you the opportunity to see the evidence.

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Rate me, please.

>>51769280
Those who wear glasses dare to ascend beyond their physical limitations! If the emperor wanted you to see more he would have granted you such vision. And yet here you are defying him. Next you'll tell me you take medicine and pain killers. Disgusting traitors.

>>51769348
So you are just shitposting.

Got it

I've seen it. I can confirm it's true, at least as far as the new mark of armour and gun goes.

>>51769385
Nope.

Showed it to >>51769390
New mark of bolter coming out too.

Just imagine how unbearable Ultra players are gonna get though.

Not only do they claim to be the best. They will straight up HAVE better Space Marines.

>>51769383
Fucking disgusting!

>>51769396
So the rumor is imperial marines from years back.
Ultra ultra marines? fucking kek.

>>51769396
Why not post an image or something?

Right now it just feel like "I have an uncle at Nintendo" so excuse me if anyone find it hard to believe

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>>51769390
>>51769396

>>51769406
Because this singular picture is taken from a singular conversation amongst very few people which means it will specifically be traced and said person will lose their damn job.
It's super simple.

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>>51769412
Nope.

>>51769417
Then why bother posting? There are no likes or upvotes here.

So it is either shitposting, having some lust for (you) or just being a retard

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>>51769426
Sure thing, bud.

So say I got a psyker DP with wings. If I start him swooping, he comes in on Turn 2. If I start him gliding (normal), I can deploy him normally but then swoop in the first turn ya?

>>51768776
Speak English

>>51769441
Honestly it's retarded enough to be true. And he's obviously not gonna snitch out his m8. People discuss untrue rumors all the fucking time.

>>51769459
(you)

>>51769474
(you)

>>51769462
We all know it is stupid enough.
But what he is doing is just shitposting.

He is basically doing the "Nintendo uncle"

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pretty happy with how this guy is turning out.

>>51769462
You've got the right approach.
We're talking GW here. They're spectacle creeping atm.

>>51769482
Why the fuck isn't he floating?

>>51769480
Keep buzz-wording.
I've said it before, I'll say it again.
Find a way for me to post an image without someone screendumping it and we're bueno.

>>51769476
(You)

Didn't see a /wip/ thread so I'll ask here. I was working on Saint Celestine and the halo thing on her backpack broke off right under the skull. I was trying to glue it back on but I can't hold it in place long enough for the glue to cure. Any suggestions on what to do?

>>51769417
Did you post about this before? I remember seeing something about super-marines led by Guilliman a few months ago.

>>51769494
But the new armor is cool looking or its just a neo shit thing style like the new power rangers movie??

>>51769508
(Jew)

>>51769482
>fighting nurgle scum on a world of poo. You think I wear this gasmask to look cool, think again buddy

But seriously nice work anon.

>>51769494
So the marines are bigger like custodes or what?

>>51769482
looks pretty sweet
I was hoping you'd have him prone on a hover board or something

>>51769511
super glue

>>51769512
Not a few months ago. Maybe like two weeks?
>>51769513
The one greave looks like it's from the stormcast range.
The model I'm looking at has a strange wrist mounted interface, not sure if it'll be a squad upgrade or on all models. The bolter looks far more like an assault rifle ( Longer body)
And has the strange extended gorget.

>>51769522
Honestly not sure if they're bigger than custodes, or simply roughly the same size.
The model I have to compare the height with is a guardsmen, which he towers over a fair bit.

>>51769494
>Find a way for me to post an image without someone screendumping it and we're bueno.

POST IT ON 4CHAN

NOBODY BELIEVES YOUR "INTERNET POLICE WILL CALL THE FBI ON ME" SHIT

Right back at you, bud.

https://vid.me/u6L0

>>51769534
Might have been then, my sense of time is terrible.

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>>51769540
the fuck

>>51769442
Right back at you, bud.

(forgot to tag in previous reply).

https://vid.me/u6L0

>>51769538
Jesus are you hard of hearing?

Once it shows here it'll be in every 40k forum online.

And then my friend will stop providing any pictures of new shit, because that means theres a leak somewhere.

It's pretty simple.

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Running this against a friend's BT tomorrow. He's got twice the amount of models and 8 vehicles. 3 MSU crusaders with plasmaguns/cannons (2 in razorbacks), big beefy crusader squad with emp's champ and Coteaz in LRC, Ironclad dread in pod, trilas pred, vindi, stormtalon gunship and a 5-man meltabiker squad.

I'm rolling a ton on Heretech and using buffs and disc mobility to fuck shit up. It'll be fun. I'll either get my ass handed to me within half an hour or I'll ruin the guy's day with Scrapcode Curse and DS termies with AP3 Ignores Cover.

>>51769534
But whats your opinion about it? do you like it? or its just shit? ty anyways for the details

>>51769534
Is the model crammed with gubbins like the custodes are?

I'm basically imagining a stormcast eternal with wrist mounted thingo and an ar bolter

>Grav is AP4 and Ignores Cover same cost, Cannon is 3/5 Salvo and GravGun is 2/3 Salvo. Does not roll to wound, causes wounds based on save like before.
>Any 6s cause 1 wound with an AP of 2. Vehicles suffer a hull point, roll a D3 1-2 Stunned, 3-4 Armament Destroyed, 5-6 Immobilised. Any repeated results other than 1-2 cause a reroll.
>Amp gives Relentless to Grav Cannon
>Can't reroll failed wounds since it rolls damage against save, doesn't use the "to Wound" chart.

>>51769553
Proof that it isn't samefagging to >>51769442

>>51769553
What is it?

>>51768120
By massively increasing the cost of almost every AP 2 and 1 weapon in the. Somewhere around 5th Edition they became spammable and that is a massive problem (also the reason why tactical squads suck ass)

>>51769572
It still has the overall space marine Mk 8 look.
But yeah, just a little bit of extra on the model.
Backpack is also more rounded. Sort of like how the energy pack on the las or grav? ( I dont play Space Marines) energy pack looks for their devastators.

>>51769570
Honestly? I'm not too sold on it.
It reminds me of how they flared up Deathwatch.

>>51768826
>But that makes low-strength weapons even worse, when they already struggle to be relevant. Do we really need to nerf lasguns and shotguns any more? Plus anything that boosts T becomes truly horrific if it can be stacked onto terminators.

Low strength weapons shouldn't be the weapon of choice vs terminators.

>>51769574
You can't prove you aren't samefagging. What is inspect element. There no way to do it. You should ignore him.

>>51769590
What is the head like traditional mk 7 or what

>>51769559
And do you have a brain at all?

Burden of proof is and will stay on you until you provide proof, and if you're unable to paint over whatever revealing information is on the picture I don't know what to tell you.

>>51769592

Except they're totally meant to be a strategy.

There are two ways of dealing with termis. Either low AP, high S weapons. Your melta, your plasma etc.

Or drowning them in shots to force as many armour saves as possible. Your lasguns, your massed bolters etc.

>>51769574
What is it that you linked?

>>51769611
Wasn't me.
Was the other guy accused of being me. Said bloke that I showed the pic to.

It's literally a video of the thread where he mouses over the responses to show he isn't me.
( I'm the crazy claim making Ultra-ultramarines shouting guy)

>>51769601
Unhelmeted.

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r8 don't h8

>>51769632
Ok so mk8 with gorget + stormcast-ish, marine who's a big guy (for marines) with a funny AR bolter, rounded backpack and a large wrist mounted iwatch.

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>>51769662
Pretty much.
I really can't tell if the Iwatch is some fancy decal, or straight up has a function though.
I've tried cutting the various components
Here, I'll throw you a bone for humoring me.
Top plate is the elbow.
You tell me what it is.

>>51769677
Admech transport, no doubt about it

>>51769677
Well iwatch is pretty close. It might be some auspex type shit. Interesting. Don' get your friend fucked over anon. The autists here are not worth it.

>>51769699
But it's on his wrist.
You can see the power armour elbow in the shot and the back of his hand at the bottom.

>>51769710
This is pretty much the closest picture I'll allow.
The rest will come when it comes, or if I see other pictures leak, I'll provide mine perhaps.
Until then, know it's happening. And that I facepalmed at " Guilliman's blood"

Hard.

>>51769715
Yeees, but it could also be sponson-mounted servo-arm for slapping butts while driving

>>51769559
oh fuck off

>>51769677
HE PROVIDES some PROOF

Holy shit GW what are you up to.

Doubters here gonna be eating crow when the new models drop lol

>>51769747
I will not.
Even threw you a bone
>>51769677
Here.

So yes. This is why I've been chuckling at the intense " NO NO NO"
Look, i respect it. I understand. You want proof. You're not gullible. That's good.

>>51769724
Its good to know this news, I was considering ultras. Now I will wait and see.

The idea of imperial marines who would stomp all over normal marines, is as old as time. I have heard it before. Guillimans blood supercharging them as lame as it is is actually consistent with the fluff lol.

At least he has the mk8 gorget, that was always sexy. If he is covered in gubbins though, I will skip.

>>51769764
posting a tiny fucking thumbnail of a wrist is hardly throwing anyone a bone
just post the full thing you fucking faggot

>>51769724
NEW 40mm BASE DUAL KIT cost five plasma guns times half a weirdboy each, come in squads of the cost of a meltagun each

Source: Hastings via faeit

>>51769777
Okay, I'm done with treating you with any modicum of respect.

The other guys were nice, I gave them a little peak.

You, on the other hand, can veritably fuck the hell off you sad fa/tg/uy

>>51769790
Post it all, blame Kirby and Crudence.
Everyone wins!

Are dark lance ravagers worth their points?

>>51769790
DANCE FOR ME, PUPPETS

>>51769790
I'm not going to be nice to a faggot that won't post jack shit while making obtuse claims, a fucking elbow isn't anything, it could quite literally be anything made by anyone, just post the full fucking thing, what the fuck is stopping you, seriously.

>>51769808
>just post the full fucking thing, what the fuck is stopping you, seriously.

But GW will call the FBI on him for copying that floppy! Mom's gonna freak!

>>51769808
Before? For giggles.
Now?
To spite you.
Holy fuck I can see your spit flying as you furiously type this out.
You're irate, watch the blood pressure.
>>51769821
Yes, sure.
What ever bud.
That's what I'm saying.

You two sound like the type of people that find Angry marines and scream doomrider while hoping you'll get some daemonette attention because they have boobies.
Holy fuck.

>>51769833
So other than this pic do these new marines have a name are they called ultra ultras or what?

>>51769833
guys I'm actually Kirby and I.can confirm this guy is full of shit

What he's posted is actually the first image of our new Squat range.

>>51769562
If you cut a maulerfiend, an unit of rubric and downgrade the exalted sorcerer to sorcerer you can afford another demon prince and upgrade the brand-wielding sorcerer to mastery 3

>>51769833
yes buddy, i must be irate calling out a faggot posting a literal
>MY UNCLE WORKS FOR NINTENDO
tier "leak" then throwing us a "bone" in the form of a tiny thumbnail of an elbow of all things
you're really just looking for attention
so here's your (you)

>>51769845
No idea sadly.

Got the pic with an explanation.
followed up with " If you dislike this, you're in for a wild ride in the upcoming time"

>>51769854
Aw <3 Okay buddy.
Is it afternoon for you? Are you getting cranky?

>>51769845
I'm sure that wrist was some Scion shit.

But hey let's believe the tiny ant image.

I'm going to laugh if it just the marine tactical box number 9.

Because updating 2 to 1 decade old armies box set is not a priority in Age of the Emperor

>>51769855
Nice

I'm buying my ticket for GW's wild ride today.

>>51769808
How does it feel to be impotent and raging into the aether?

I'm enjoying your salty tears of impotent rage.

>>51769855
refreshing the entire marine line, so everyone needs new models. I sorta hope they go full AoS just for the online tears.

>>51769866
If you want certainty, look on the gw website.

Soo Girlyman Storm part 3 is coming in March?

>>51769887
Yes

>>51769864
here have another (you)
I ain't even mad, i'm not the guy you were arguing with before
>>51769879
>calling a guy a faggot for not posting proof is impotent rage
wew
>>51769887
yes

>>51769866

If you're so sure it's something else show us what bit you think it actually is lel

>>51769845
Excitus Paragons.

Ravenwing > DA 3-9 Companies > DA 10th Company > Deathwing

>>51769881
What's the most ridiculous, we won't believe it, thing you've got?

>>51769898
Personally? It is either an already existing model or just more Marine crap.

Update other armies already. The Guardamen set is like a decade old.

>>51769854

You a salty fa/tg/uy and deserve to be slapped full in the face with a fresh herring.

>>51769881
The concept isn't that the new marines will replace the old ones. It's that we're just getting a new more elite group of them

I then joked with a friend saying " Hey, imagine if some super disease wipes them out and only the ultra-ultras are left behind"
We then sat in silence.

GW would do something like that.
Let's hope they do not.

>>51769562
>Not fielding squads of nines
You make Tzeentch sad.

>>51769936
not even GW is dumb enough to kill their best selling product line

>>51769944
But they wouldn't really be killing it off if they just provided " Stormcast eternal" level new miniatures, would they?

>>51769921
but if they update the guard sets, what happens to the neophyte hybrid boxes?

>>51769951
What's the most ridiculous shit that's coming? Hints?

>>51769944
GW is dumb enough to send random crap to stores instead of the shit the store asked for.
Then proceed to shit talk the store for it selling 3 boxes of Ethereals

>>51769936
If their smart it kinda is though. You make new better marines, you give them appropriately good rules. You make them troops in the marine dex. You have just replace tactical marines, the best selling kit there ever was.

>>51769936
Maybe they're like Girlymam's Pretorians or some shit like that

>>51769954
They'd just repackage it.

Remember that's the boxes are kinda like deathwatch characters. A standard box plus a sprue of Deathwatch/Hybrids gubbins.

They'd just need to take the hybrid sprue and out it in the new IG box.

>>51769951
they would because at this point the generic SM is iconic as fuck and just flat out removing the kits is moronic
especially since they updated them only a few years ago

>>51769963
I honestly have no idea outside of this and Fulgrim coming down the line.
It was simply what was told onto me, that we're in for a wild ride.

>>51769976
They're Marines who have awakened the latent power of their gene-seed thanks to a new process developed by Guilliman.
They wear new mkIX armour.

>>51769954
You can still make it compatible.

They are adding a lot o new crap on top of existing models already. Easier done with vehicles but still.

The GSC is already made on top of the Guard shit.

I most ask for decent weapon updrades in the box and non retarded mold lines.

Having to clean mold lines from pockets gets annoying really fast

>>51770006
fucking this
the mold lines and lack of any special weapons other than flamer and nade launchers is maddening

>>51770001
Girlyman Shipudden

>>5176998
>>51770006
I hope so, probably mean we won't be getting steel legion though (because re-breathers with tubes joining the body)
Would be awesome to get more weapons, does anyone even use 'nade launchers?

>>51770014
Come in a box of 10, pretty sure they used to come in a box of 20.

>>51769976
Yeah, could be.
Honestly how they're gonna implement it, I have no idea.

But I'm generally here for fun, and the new stuff sounds fun( albeit pretty dumb... But fun)

>>51770048
it used to be 20 for 35$
now it's 10 for 29$
fuck Kirby to a thousand deaths for pulling this bullshit

>>51769144

Anyone?

so what's going to be up for pre-order tomorrow

>>51770078
My dick
Comes with your mom for free

>>51769951
Kroot

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>>51769937
Tzeentch oughta fix his fucking number then as his units are bigger golddiggers than the Kardashians.

>>51769850
Can't, fielding pretty much all my TS units here save for MSU Rubrics. I sorely need the Maulers for distraction purposes due to my superlow model count, the Disc Sorcs are T5 2W 3+/6++ flying solo.

That said, it's a good idea so I'll consider it. Might a bit cheap having 2 flying DPs being hit on 6s (he has no skyfire past the single stormtalon).

Reckon I'll get my ass handed to me? If I manage to get a few HP-strippers from Heretech, I think I honestly have a good chance to win.

MY ASS THAT THIS IS DOW, THIS IS A HERETICAL TRAVESTY MADE BY BLIZZARD.

>new trailer
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0XnU0xaqsY

>>51770094
I'm not sure what your point is here.

Kroot were hardly any significant race.

>>51770097
You're still not getting more of the picture just for being a twat.

>>51770097
40keks

>>51769144
are you waac or what. Walking terminators seem shitty boss.

>>51770097
>Goldstein

>>51770089
ebin

>>51770064
Think that happen before Kirby.

GW killed fantasy on their own, then blame it on the consumers.

That is why the idea of Age of the Emperor is scary, we know GW is stupid

At least during 3rd GW pretended to care about their consumers. Today? Not even sure they care about the company

>>51770097
doubt.jpg

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>>51770105

>ITS FUCKING STARCRAFT2 all over again

>>51770113
No, Ibn means "son of."
Ahamed Ibn Fahland, Ibn Rashid, Ibn Hamas.

>>51770123
Well Roundtree is definitely doing shit that we want
problem is I think he's going through with alot of what Kirby already had planned out and it's too late to stop most of it, all we can hope for is that things just continue as they are, i'm in no mood to watch 40k get skubmarred

>>51770106
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>>51770149
>Being this upset about not getting to see more of the leak

>>51770144
Things like Xbox Huge models and models that could brake if you look them hard enough does not help.

Sure they look cool as fuck, but we have to transport that shit around.

>>51770105
campaign might be fun

>>51770105
Looks fucking tight.

>>51770159
what models? I know Celestine, since I own her
truthfully I had oversized models, it's already a pain in the fucking ass to transport what I have, and I only own a couple of Rhinos, I can't imagine having to own like a dozen of them

>/tg/ : Cadia was destroyed forever!
>read Fall of Cadia
>Cadia was cracked in half and was pulled into the Eye. It's currently undergoing the process of becoming a daemon world

Why is /tg/ so bad at the lore? Cadia didn't go anywhere. There is a chance that the Imperium can reclaim it in the future.

>>51770180
hate oversized models*

>>51770123
>Think that happen before Kirby.

No. Kirby is a long time fixture.

>>51770162
>>51770174
Any idea who the real bad guy is?

>>51770184
No, read it again, it was destroyed.

>>51770184
There was one guy that insisted for like half a year that Shadowsun cut the Raven Guard chapter master in half with a sword.

is fabius bile the kind of book that requires that I read anything before picking it up? I see that it has a ton of good reviews

>>51770184
kek
>tg is retarded!
Post retarded idea.

Please tell me of the daemon world that has been reclaimed by the imperium. Oh wait that can't happen.

>>51768725
who doesn't get a chair at Robots round table? even the fucking missing assholes get a chair.

>>51770209
Abaddon at the end of the chapter watches Cadia being flooded with the Warp and thinks it will make a nice daemon world. It's still there. It can be retaken.

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>>51770184
Cadia cracked in half, got absorbed by the Eye then broke into smaller pieces.

>>51770180
Magus, flayers, Riptide, Knights those kind of things.
Add stuff like Celestine on the parchment that is one bad bounce away from breaking.

Cool models, annoying as fuck to transport and store

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>>51769012

One of the reasons of why Both her and the Doomguy were erased from the list


>>51769199
>>51769265

WHERES MY MOTHERFUCKING DRAWFAGS WITH SAILOR MOON CELESTINE!
Dammit mods, Dammit M00t!

>>51770197
Chaos as always
they're keeping them a secret

>>51770222
>Oh wait that can't happen.

Says who? Just extermintus the planet and then terraform it.

>>51770252
Doesn't work like that.

>>51770252
Just kill abaddon and solve chaos.

nah

>>51770252
>Just extermintus the planet and then terraform it.

Wouldn't work.

>>51770260
>>51770271
Why not?

>>51770242
yeah, i'm starting to run out of space, hell I can't even carry the drop pods, where the fuck am i supposed to store them?

>>51770285
Because Exterminatus doesn't kill daemon worlds.

The planet is possessed. Not just the surface.

>>51770103
Didin't realize you were without aura of dark glory.
If you downgrade the exalted sorcerer you have enough for the 4 sorcerers.
If you plan to go "heavy" on heretch you could use the 150 from the second squad of rubrics to take another vehicle, so you can squeeze more out of the eventual blessing you roll on heretech.

>>51768239
>Removing Grav entirely wouldn't be a good idea. It does play a useful role - that of killing Monstrous Creatures.

What are:
Sniper rifles
Plasma rifles
Missile launchers

>>51770311
>ripmemes and wraithknights
to be honest only Daemons and Tyranid should have MCs, I've literally never seen anyone bitching about either
if they turn riptides and wraithknights into vehicles I will be more than happy to see Grav get nerfed sufficiently

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>>51770105


>youtubefags defending the starcraft 2 model saying that its a good game


/tg/ i summon thee

>>51770305
Get the Grey Knights to unbind the possession.

>>51770285
Because the taint is too deep.
The veil between reality and the warp is non-existent at that point.

>>51770323
Can't do it, it's too much. Why do you think they quarantine sectors instead of doing that?

For what it's worth, I'm a different guy to the one who posted in this thread earlier and I have a good friend who has a good friend with actual significant contacts at GW HQ. He rarely drops rumours (and he isn't always 100% on the money when he does, but he has given us some solid info in the past), but he did say some stuff which seems to line up with this 'ultra-ultra' shit. Basically, Guilliman unlocks some stash of post-heresy technology and creates a force of next-generation marines with advanced kit. He owes my friend some money and he said that he might want to wait for summer to be paid back because there would be lots of GW stuff he would want around then. I haven't seen any pictures or anything.

>>51770349
You're gay

>>51770349
Cool if true.

>>51770353
But he still pitches into a faggot like you

>>51770321
Honestly it is a good game. By no means perfect or a perfect score of 5/7

The campaign was shit thou but with fun missions mechanic wise.

The cartoony style is annoying but at least in SC2 it works rather well for ladder.

In other words you are overreacting and the new DoW looks like shit

>>51770321
SC2 is a fine enough game, it's fun at the competitive level. The business model is among the worst in the industry, I just wanna pay my 60$ for a finished, complete game.

Storytime: Got my first kiss at an SC2 tourney at a comiccon.

>>51770349
as long as it doens't replace the current marines I will be perfectly fine with that
new units are always welcome

Why can't GW just turn everything over to Forge World, goddamnit? They've never disappointed me like GW routinely does.

>>51770375
>Storytime: Got my first kiss at an SC2 tourney at a comiccon.
>I kiss a big fat bastard
Faggot

>>51770402
because the teens who keep this hobby alive don't want forgeworld, they want cheaper plastic, regardless of quality.

>>51770184
>>51770252
>>51770285
>>51770323
4/10 bait

>>51770462
I was actually thinking more crunchwise than modeling.

>>51770402
because i'm not paying 50$ for 10 guardsmen

>>51770461
it was my gf, ya homo

>>51770470
>it was my gf (male), ya homo
Faggot

>>51770479
it was my female GF.

BRB, bout to let her peg my ass for a bit

>>51768803
You can also take triple plasma vets and ignore cover.

>>51770306
I was actually thinking of downgrading the Exalted to give my TermieSorc ML3 and my Scarab Occult a missile rack and heavy warpflamer. Don't like the Warpflame rule, but it does add more AP3 ignores cover.

We already traded lists though, he's my bro. I don't list tailor on a good day, much less if I'm battling a friend. I'll keep these suggestions in mind for the next battle though, I'm eager to see how I perform and how the ExSorc performs, that Coruscating Beam attack especially.

>>51770105

Starcraft Faggots Defending Dow 3, because it looks like SC2


Even here on the sanctity of /tg/ these blizzfags show up to defend that horseshit

>>51770367
>>51770375
>>51770479

>>>/v/
>>>/vg/

>>51770489
BRB, bout to let her peg my ass for a bit

Ok

faggot

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>Aeldari
>mfw

>>51770520
>I call faggot a player of SC2
>Im defend Blizzbong

retarderalert.jpg

>>51770520
qq moar
gg ez

If you were a purist grognard you wouldn't play vidya or care when it was shit.

>>51770550
>>51770571

>triggered for insulting blizzard

get out /v/

>>51770528
That's better, we needed some of our regular scheduled shitposting to balance the humors of this thread. Celestine isn't a SoB and all that.

>>51770580
Caring about vidya, are you a grognard or not faggot

>>51770580
The autism its strong in you anon

>>51770528
>eldar trolling cheetah man is on here every time i am

we have similar shitposting schedules anon, where is the guy that says celestine isnt a real SoB and the guy who says dark eldar are gonna get squatted? because i see them all the time too

>>51770589

>posting shit that belongs to /v/
>being autistic enough to call everyone grognard

>>51770609
i prefer more this type of shitposting rather than the /v/fags posting about vidya here

>>51770611
Keep posting faggot. Muh blizzard. Muh qq

>>51770583
Also its fat.

GUILLIMAN CONFIRMED FOR BRAWL

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>/v/ Blizzdrones shitposting on 40keks

>>51770653
VOICED AND DESIGNED BY MATT WARD

>>51770635
>>51770528
>>51770583
>hurr durr age of the Emperor
>hurr durr gorilla man is the new emperor because of one quote
>hurr durr celestine is literally a 320 lb SJW who voted Jill stein
>hurr durr cheetafag will never play against eldar again (even though he probablably didnt already)
>hurr durr ITC
>hurr durr 40k is never meant to be played competitively
>hurr durr you probably fap to traps if you play eldar/tau/comp SM

did i miss any?

>>51770659
>blizzdrones on /v/
goddammit I thought we fucking got rid of them

>>51770653
we went through this with K. Rool

hes too big guys

>>51770674
>>hurr durr 40k is never meant to be played competitively

please prove its not madness to do this

>>51770688
just parroting all the regular shitposting on /tg/, i plan on defending it as much as anyone else who makes these statements

>>51770694
I'm waac-tose intolerant m8

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>>51770674
>implying Aeldari aren't 40k's equivalent to traps
>Aeldari

>>51770682

Just say that Starcraft 2 is shit and it Ruined DoW 3 and they reveal themselves

>>51770105
Why are people saying this looks bad? Is its a reverse psychology thing?