Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>51771196
FOR OMNISSIAH
https://mega.nz/#!0VMEUDwY!sHAG1fL-7LjOSFSnCqN8IMnMcU2990lRvX5czVBZE6c
https://mega.nz/#!RBlDHBwJ!dzZZqU_71Cd_xDQZBF84nlFLrD1Qsyp6gZ0JqZPQxk8

Phil Kelly is as big a hack as Matt Ward
there I said it

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>>51771233

Continuing from before.

With the super Imperium Friends formation is there a way to make Valk/Vendettas work with SoB/Inquisition?

The only reason I got the thing is because I like the model.

Also could I run an Avenger in that formation or is just shit from the list?
I wonder because the rules of the formation don't even make a reference to the list

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>So necrontyr were based on ancient Egyptians
>Egyptians were black and African
>so were necrontyr black?

>>51771272

They are also aliens. And from the art I've seen, they're probably grey in color.

>>51771265
>ERRATA Page 46 – Faction and Allies Add the following to the end of the first paragraph: ‘Transports from this Faction can transport Astra Militarum, Militarum Tempestus and Inquisition units as if they were all of the same Faction.’

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>>51771272
>>Egyptians were black and African

>>51771295
>>51771265
(not that anon, but) So yes, the valks can transport any inquisition units, but not SoB units.

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>>51771317
>>51771316

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so a fully equipped predator from the movie is sent into the jungle to hunt and kill a catachan sargent, armed with only his knife, who is given the reverse mission

who comes out on top after a week?

>>51771295
Meh? So they made IA up to par with Inquistion codex.

Still no cool deepstriking Dominion what a shame.

>>51771272
>Negrons

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>>51771353

>>51771372
someone please photoshop this to have the Shieeeeeeeeeeeeet face, with the necron coloring

>>51771265
no avengers unless you "forge the narrative" the castellans list tells you which units you can take.

on stuffing units into vendettas

Q: Can units that are Battle Brothers embark in each other’s
Transport vehicles during deployment?
A: No.
Q: Can units from two Detachments with the same Faction
embark in each other’s Transport vehicles during deployment?
A: Yes.

so the question is are the castellans units battle brothers or not?

>>51771353
>Wu Tang Dynasty ain't nothing to fuck with

>>51771233
>Phil Kelly is as big a hack as Matt Ward

Show me on the army list where the Guardians bladestormed you.

>>51771392
if you read the ally section, it says something like "alliance levels tell us how models from different factions treat eachother"
alliance levels exist even within the same detachment.

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>>51771272
>Egyptians were black and African

>>51771392
The Castellan formation doesn't even mention the list in the rules. It just show them.
We can assume it means "only take shit from here" but this is GW

>>51771336

Catachan in a matter of hours.

>>51771392
One bit that confuses me is that does this mean allies can't get in flyers before they arrive? Its not deployment per se, since unless you're sitting on a Skyshield the flyer has to start the game off the table.

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So what edition is best edition?
I know people hate 5th and later, at least for the fluff, but is there any kind of consensus?
Genuine curiosity, interested in oldhammer

>>51771444

Third.

>>51771438
thats exactly what it means, which leads to a lot of frustration like inquisitors cant start in transports and shit like that

way to go space marine and eldar cheesefags for ruining our fun

>>51771444
4-5 has best arts

>>51771427
it does, it's literally the first heading on the page
>CASTELLANS OF THE IMPERIUM ARMY LIST
The Castellans of the Imperium Detachment Army List divides the units available into several categories, according to their Battlefield Role.

>>51771272
>Egyptians were black

No. First off you're being anachronistic regarding race. Secondly there is no goddamn evidence to support the theory.

Egyptians were Mediterranean.

Yes I'm triggered.

>>51771427
Its not specific, but its clear that
"the castellens of the imperium detachment army list divides the units available into several categories according to their battlefield role"
and
"the detachment must include 4 or more troops... etc" means reference the list of units divided by role to see whats available.

>>51771438
>does this mean allies can't get in flyers before they arrive?

Correct. GW apparently didn't realise this at the time, because they updated the FAQ to say Valkyries taken as part of an Imperial Navy detachment can start off with Guard, Scions, and Inquisition units inside.

>>51771444
>what edition did you play the most of
same answers

>>51771438
friad so, in terms of the castellans list though I'd be inclined to allow the use of non dedicated transports by any of the other factions within the army but others interpretations may vary

>>51771437
really? i mean hes just a T3 human with a flack vest and a knife

the other guy has a damn heat seeking plasma gun

it would at least be a tough fight

>>51771468
I started in third, to date have played fifth the most, and think fourth was probably the best overall.

>>51771444
3rd because the armies were still small enough to be a skirmish

>>51771459
>>51771467
>>51771504
Bah, thanks guys. While I was thinking about the idea of stuffing sisters in Valkyries, I also wanted to ally Blackstars into a normal SM force because I think they look really cool.

>>51771517
The catachan knows how to survive on a world with tyranids on it, frogs that detonate like a nuclear weapon and plant life that literally takes control of your brain.

>>51771444
I've played only 2nd, 3rd and 7th, they're all horribly flawed and yet I still play

>>51771562
Don't forget the plant that turns you into another one of it with a single spike.

>>51771551
why not just use the DW crunch and have them repaint their armour because "super seekrit unit" can't reveal themselves to the enemy

>>51771444
3rd edition was best edition.

This does not mean it was perfect

>>51771272
>ancient niggafricans surviving in the Sahara
lmao

just lmao

Is the Machine God the Void Dragon?

>>51771678
No, but it may have been shaped by the VD

>>51771678
no, the machine god is an aspect of the holy emperor

>anyone who tells you different will be purged

>>51771678
Depends if you argue that BL is either canon or not

>>51771678
No, the Machine God is a religious figure that is loosely based on the void dragon

>>51771678
The omnissiah is the void dragon, it says so in the mechanicum book

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Reposting this hoping to get critique on my selection

1850 Renegades & Heretics: Vraks Renegade Unending Host

HQ
Renegade Command Squad
Arch Demagogue, master of the horde, covenant of nurgle, 4x Disciples

Troops
Renegade Infantry Platoon
20x PCS, Demagogue, x3 melta guns, chaos sigil, militia training, meltabombs
20x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, militia training, krak grenades
20x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, militia training

Renegade Infantry Platoon
20x PCS, Demagogue, x3 melta guns, chaos sigil, militia training, meltabombs
20x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, militia training, krak grenades
20x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, militia training

Renegade Infantry Platoon
15x PCS, Demagogue, x2 flamers, chaos sigil, melta bombs
15x Infantry Squad, x2 flamers, chaos sigil
15x Infantry Squad, x2 flamers, chaos sigil

20x Plague zombies

Fast Attack
6x Renegade Sentinels
autocannons, camo netting, militia training

Heavy Support
3x Rapier Laser Destroyers
extra crew, militia training

Lords of War
Renegade Baneblade

The baneblade gives the renegades fearless while getting a modifiable 3+ cover save (2+ sentinels with camo netting) while getting shot through an infantry squad. Whenever an infantry squad dies, on a roll of 2+ it returns to the game outflanking with extra movement.
I don't know how you stop the special weapons from getting across. I would have to roll 1's for them to not get in range at some point, when the outflanking squads come in they could get killed and come right back.

>>51771665
I suppose that'd work, and give me Fearless hammernators. I was going for a super special snowflake honour guard force for my CM and chief command staff; the Chaplain and Librarian would be with the Terminators and the CM with a blob of Vanguard (I will make these flying pointsinks and nobody can stop me), and since I've got a bunch of MK3s sitting around I was gonna get some Breachers to use as storm-shielded veterans.

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Posting for the last time, hope anon saw them.

Seeing as how you get a bunch of extra arms and bodies for the GSC acolytes&hybrids. Has anyone found a good set of legs to pair the spares with?

>start playing 40k
>loose almost every game
>90% of all games uless i play like orks or nids
>after 6 months switch to an army i like a lot more (guard)
>gitgud, get better at the game in general, know my armies strengths and weaknesses, build a style i enjoy
>start winning games
>top 3 in local tourney at store constantly
>win 90% of games now, even with casual lists
>people start making comments, shit talking behind my back about how my army is unplayable
>one guy just groans every time i play him in the tourney
>worry people dont wanna play games against me anymore
>get a second army
>git gud with it, find a style i like, build up my army and know the rules
>quickly start winning games again
>worried the cycle will continue

im annoyed because i know guard is not an op army and i dont tailor against people, i just build with my meta in mind, if i was more of a cuck i would start throwing games every once in a while, im just mad because people wanted to play me a lot more when my army was trash and they knew i was a pushover

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>>51771196
I never see anyone talk about the Hellstriders.
What's up with that?

>>51771756
needs fantasy bases to move your army/10

seriously people will fucking hate you if you dont make sure to be quick with your movement and know where all these shots are going

people really bitch about being forced to play against blob armies or armies with like 30 psyker dice if the guy doesnt know how to handle his numbers

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>>51771787
show me your roster and local meta.

>>51771806
>ive never seen anyone talk about slaanesh

>>51771444
Can you post picture of page 273 from 3rd ed rulebook?

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>>51771806
it's an Epic superheavy that's never been in 40k proper

on a related note i can tell you about the subjugator. the Subjugator was in 40k briefly as an Apoc only lord of war for chaos marines (daemons weren't an army by themselves just yet i believe) in 4th edition. the subjugator was suppose to be a bit smaller then a warhound and built as a titan killer but was rather bad at it's job. i did update the datasheet, along with some other unloved chaos superheavies, but i lost my data when my laptop crashed this year

>>51771818
I'm going to make modular movement trays for all my troops, don't worry. I'm not sure if I should do it by squad (because they'll get split and return elsewhere) or by platoon and just pluck the squad and do it old fashioned when they die.

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How would you fix Tyranids?

>>51771903
Holy fuck why didn't GW or FW ever make a subjugator knight? Or is it a titan.

>>51771942
None of them. But IIRC those are titansized.

>>51771942
Thats the Brass Scorpion of Khorne on legs.

>>51771787
What did your Guard army lists look like? I'm a newbie Guard player for 7th edition and struggling to balance firepower and moving forward to get objectives. Or what were some of your most effective units.

I got some advice from an anon last night who used 2 50 man blobs, one with Lascannons and Power Axes and a Conscript blob. So that sounded neat. I probably won't do 50, but I might do 40 men strong. I also thought of using Scions and some Heavy Weapons Squads behind an aegis.

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>>51771869

Not the same Anon, but no, because the numbered pages only go to 263.

what to do to a guy who throws his saves one at a time
>I like it like this. It's more tense.

luckily he doesn't do it when there's a whole bunch of them, like 10+ but 5-6 yeah, sure no problem

>>51771980
It's more like an OOP Talos pain engine on legs

>>51771787
>AM
>winning tourneys
You must have the most beta meta of all time

>>51771831
i mean i can post my list in full but itll take a hot minute, basically at 1850 its a standard platoon with pask and some vets in transports, throw in a manticore usually with the spare points, sometimes ill add in a fun unit like rough riders to kinda nerf myself

i also run the emperors wrath artillery formation with three basilisks and two wyverns

throw in coteaz and some inquisitorial stuff

when i want a serious game
(whhich we both agree on) or when we are in a tourney i usually shave off the fat, bring a void shield generator, servo skulls, 2 more wyverns in a squadron, roll on invisibility and prescience and have 7 warp charges to play with, but like i said thats when we agree this is a tourney style game

my meta has skyhammer, eldar jetbike spam, wolfstars, flyrant spam, and riptide wing, honeslty i dont even feel like my mean list is the cheesiest in the store

>>51771990
>AS is a melta gun
man what a time it was

>>51772026
That sounds like your opponents are just dumb dumbs.

What gives them the most trouble?

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>>51771997
well if it's for a character(s) or those with different saves then it's okay, but i'd call him on his shit if he was doing 5+ saves on a blob of guardsmen

>>51771942
no, but you can find projects people did online. speaking of unloved chaos superheavies i have a lesser brass scorpion i never finished painting

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r8 my tryhard crons?

this is for games where both me and the opponent agree we wanna try our best, also for a tourney coming up in a month at 2000 pts, ive only played 1500 with my crons but this is what i want it to grow into, thoughts from other black necrontyr?

feels a bit generic imo, i would accuse myself of netlisting almost

>>51772026
>full squadron of wyverns
Is this because you only have one heavy support choice left? They're generally best 2x2

>>51772067
I don't think that would do well, at all.

>>51771990
Thank you.

>>51772052
well i play the meta so i have a counter for each

>coteaz and three meltas blunt skyhammer and help me seize

>emperors wrath skullfucks eldar jetbikes and ravenwing (which i forgot about), because ignores cover AP3

>wyverns rape any infantry without 3+/2+ AND FnP

>an invisible pask will just kill everything including wraithknights

honestly my army just has synergy out the ass and i know where to put my shots to be most effective, i dont wanna stroke my ego but im just starting to think i have better fundamentals than them

Is there an optimal or less bad way of running a Chaos Warband with Emperor's Children? 5man CSM squads in Rhinos?

>>51772067
well thats embarrassing... one sec

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>>51772119
>>51772092
>>51772067
okay here

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>>51772026
>skyhammer, eldar jetbike spam, wolfstars, flyrant spam, and riptide wing
Are you sure you didn't go to down syndrome meetup?
>>51772081
I don't like wyverns. Give me back my fucking griffons colossus and medusa.

>>51772106
Well, good synergy always does better than single-unit spam.

Artillery formation can be broken but I don't see what other counter you have to Saim-Hann and Ravenwing.

>>51772106
A good player with a lesser list will almost always beat a shitty player with a WAAC netlist.

we should kill all tau players

>>51772081
must have miss spoke myself, i bring 2 in my cad and 2 in my EW formation, yeah 2x2 tends to delete 2 squads of anything a turn

>>51772106
Okay, so how do you kill flyrants and riptides. Because i have severe problems dealing with MC.

I have been a couple of years out of the 40k and now that I come back I'm reading that they made something with the eldar god of death?

Can someone give me a quick summary or tell me where can I find more info?

Did they introduce more changes in the lore?

>>51772055
no, I get the situation with characters and differenet caves and stuff. but for a unit of termies, for example, or whatever... man. and we did tell him a few times. but no. I'm thinking to try and throw my 21 radium carbine attacks on him one by one

>>51772161
MCs are FMCs are by far my worst matchup

pask in a punisher will usually just vomit enough ap2 shots to kill them,thats why its so important to keep him alive and invisible or at least in cover

but yeah after i loose pask things get dicy against stuff like riptide wing and flyrants

>>51772166
>eldrad sacrfices a bunch of souls
>ynnead comes back
>he's got his own Avatar
>he's being helped out by an eldar lady who has lived every way you could as an eldar (craftworld, dark, corsair, etc) and her former aspect warrior teacher
>they're gonna build a wall around the Warp and make Chaos pay for it

>tfw captcha is IMPASSE MEXICO

>>51772166
Gathering of the storms 2 Fracture of Biel Tan
Like anon >>51772197 said
+ Chaos rekt Cadia.(Gots Fall of Cadia)

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Cheesiest 3000 point IG list..... go!

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>>51772136
Renegades stole them all and provide at cheaper cost

>>51772197
this is a 4/10 shitpost

>>51772166
>im gonna say i havent been in 40k and ask whats going on just to hear the autistic screeches

im not accusing you of this but i feel like there's some anons out there doing this

btw to answer your question its the grim dark future and theres only war so not much has changed

>>51771914
Retcon the Hive Mind to being a foreign galaxy's Chaos God. Between it, Ynnead, and Khorne they murder Slaanesh, letting the HM take its old seat as Chaos God #4

Which means all Tyranids get the Daemon (Fear, 5++, and Deep Strike) special rule as well as Daemonic Instability. Tyranids in Synapse lose DI and gain Fearless.

>>51772241
46 wyverns
184 s4 ap6 shred twink linked small blast a turn

>>51772241
3000... thats too much work

also almost every army is unbalanced at that point cost

>>51771444
4th, the last edition where assault actually meant something.

>>51772194
IG need something like sob exorcist or sm centurions.

>>51772255
>hive mind will become/is already a chaos god

this has got to be the most autistic repeated fan theory/prediciton ever, and this is 40k

>>51772281
its just all their best units and strategies other than like pask and autocannon spam rely on templates

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riddle me this fa/tg/uys:

Can a Wraithknight defeat a Stompa in a standard battle (a few rounds of shooting followed by CC maybe)?

>>51772298
no

>>51771272
Which System Lord do you serve?

>>51772255
That is terrible

>>51772197
>>51772236
Biel Tan got destroyed?

If Cadia was taken by chaos but at the same time the eldars are gonna focus on the Warp I guess it's balanced again, isn't it?

I also heard something about new Eldar-Imperium relationships but I think it's fake.

>>51772249
I'm legit though, I'm an Eldar player who has been out for a while.

>>51772298
Maybe. If either Wraithcannon-knight gets lucky with its shooting or sword&board knight with its attacks, it will kill the stompa. Stompa doesnt shoot hard enough to kill the WK. It probably will kill it if WK whiffs its attacks in melee.

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Fine, cheesiest 1850 IG list... go!

>>51771787
Play themed armies like rough riders or walkying nidswarms

>>51772317
No Eldars are resurecting Guilliman.

>>51772317
>but I think it's fake
Well Yrvaine, the eldar lady who is helping ynnead, woke up Rouberte Guilliman
So take that as you will

>>51772241
3k points of superheavies: everything under S6 can't harm you so you spend the first turns in killing every one of them and spend the rest of the game cleaning up.

Is there any SM formation that lets me just include a Sternguard squad? I want to just run a demi-company with a sternguard squad for the captain.

>>51772317
Biel-Tan was very badly damaged and can't move, repairs will take centuries.

Cadia was blown in half and absorbed by the Eye.

>>51771444
2e

>>51772322
so its a 50/50 chance?

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>>51772340
>>51772342
It had to be Guilliman

>>51772360
Hard to say. Every D-6 is murder to Stompa.

>>51772298
With sword and board? Yes

With D cannons? Yes

Especially with guide and doom support

>>51772380
fuck. so when why the fuck is stompa more expensive? shit aint balanced. stompas should be 300 pts, then lets see how orks do

>>51772324
>using /tg/ to help you netlist

There's much easier methods of finding cheese anon

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>>51772371
Cypher turns loyal and joins Guilliman.


Guilliman is taking him directly to Terra.

Also Magnus fucked up the Space Wolves, and pulled the planet of the Sorcerors into real space next to Prospero.

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>>51772416
>>51772371

>>51772371
Who else could actively lead the Imperium in its entirety though?
The only other one I think could would be Dorn.

>>51772396
Stompas were made before knights and gargs were standard if I remember correctly, so they are like baneblades where they just cost way too much for what they do and how quickly they can die to D

They could easily be 400-500 pts and only 6-8 Hp and no one would bat and eye

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>>51772416
Reminder that we will soon see gloriously Empy conversions, and you filthy heretics can't so anyrhing about it.

>>51772371
the other loyal primarchs are missing or dead.

>>51772298
the wraithknight rapes the stompa, the better question is can the stompa survive against it?

>>51772453

The Lion is neither missing nor dead.

>>51772434
>Cyphers jaw line

Is it warm in here?

>>51772461
Yeah but he's a traitor.

>>51771252
WE NEED HIM BACK!

>>51772472
>Believing the lies of a single fallen because it fits your headcanon

Nice meme

>>51772493
Half the Dark Angels believe him, too.

>>51772416
>Cypher turns loyal and joins Guilliman
>Cypher turns loyal
>turns

anon

>>51771914
>the new Lexus cars
fucking Tesla

>>51772461
but who knows that besides the dark angels? we as the viewer know he's just in a coma at the Rock but in universe he might as well be missing. Rowboat's location has been common knowledge in 40k for a while

>>51772443
Dorn is way better

>>51772298
>>51772322
>>51772360
>>51772373
The Stompa will absolutely steamroll the Wraithknight both in shooting and in close combat. The problem is that a kitted-out Stompa is nearly 3 times the cost of the Wraithknight, and probably can't kill 2 WKs.

>>51772450
Nice to see CSMs finally got new models

>>51772510
Fair enough.

>>51772371
What if Guilliman turns out to be a complete bro, on the level of Vulkan, because he had some time to think about shit whilst he was in a state of undeath.

Wow, it looks absolutely terrible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0XnU0xaqsY

Are Flakk missiles worth it for a Missile Launcher Heavy Weapon Squad? It's a bit of a point sink, but at the same time they can get the order to ignore cover.

>>51772565
Dow 3 looks terrible since it was first announced.

>>51772539
How many times have you played a game with wraithknightVs stompa? It's usually not pretty since the wraithknight had about a 25% chance each turn to roll a 6 on the stompa in shooting, higher with guide

Hitting above initiative at SD with master crafted isn't pretty either

I've never seen a stompa kill a wraithknight

>>51772571
Absolutely never.

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Anyone know which kits have the Blood Angels' company transfers? I'm building the 4th company and I'd rather not freehand than many blood drops and knee markings.

>>51772342
I thought his name was Rupert

>>51772583
That's what I thought. I guess a better idea is to put a Hydra in the Emp's Wrath formation to get Skyfire to ignore cover.

>>51772565
>Alpha footage
>judging a game based off looks in general
>knowing you're going to buy it anyways and enjoy it
>judging a game in alpha
>thinking it's healthy to be instantly biased against something after the first trailer

Yawn

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>Aeldari
roflmao

>>51772571
no, do guard even have access to flakk missiles? i thought their book came out before flakk was added to 40k

>>51772606
I was just joking. I'll buy it simply because Taldeer is now a giant flaming Gundam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xobdbDfIB3s

>>51772133
Where's Zahndreckh going to chill? 6 immortal will not stop you from giving away Warlord killed VP.

Why 6 tomb blades together? 2 groups of 3 will probably suit you better.but thats jut a preference thing. Feel free to drop three scarabs for literally anything else.

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>>51772298
Undoubtably so. It doesn't even matter the layout, my wraithknight will always win.

>>51772606
>implying shit games aren't shit from the beginning
>implying Deathwing got better

>>51772571
Fucking gw
>all flyers have 12 armor
>rockets not even str 8
>they cost 25 point
why oh god WHY

>>51772565
Looks fucking great. Stop posting this bait though its getting stale.

>>51772610
this shit never fails to make me giggle

>>51772612
They do. I was just looking for stuff to add to hit Flyers besides Pask in a Punisher. I have a ghetto Hydra that I made and I have a Valkyrie that I bought from my cousin, but it's built embarrassingly poorly. The Hydra isn't much better. I don't want to field either thing, but I don't have any Skyfire either.

>>51772636
They are ridiculous. They should be a free upgrade for Missile Launchers to make them worth taking. I only use mine because I don't have another 3 Lascannon HWTs.

>>51772623
Nemesor is sitting way in the back hiding in ruins all game

Long story short: tourneyment rules limit the number of fast attack units I can have, otherwise I would take 2x3

I kinda like a good ol scarab blob to eat a knight occasionally, where you would put those extra 40-60 points?

>>51772565
I, for one, think it looks great.

Baiting faggot.

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>>51772645
>gayest faction
>gayest players
>gayest models
>Aeldari
my sides

>>51772644
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb1y_QjYmfg
Why would anyone buy this garbage?

>>51772606
just like NMS amirite

>>51772633
>completely different game companies

Your logic is... interesting

>>51772644
Anon is right I shouldn't take the b8

>>51772633
Deathwing did got better though.

Hell, they have a Beta up for the new patch, it got out today.

More weapons for MP, like the damn Heavy Flamer, better performance and shit:
http://steamcommunity.com/games/298900/announcements/detail/521692792651407641

>>51772709
He's just trolling, he probably didn't even play it, don't take the b8

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>>51772371
This, fucking Ynnead could had reasurect any primarch, why not Sangüinius greatest of all?

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You are allowed to remove one thing from 40k lore.

What do you remove?

>>51772748
Imperium.

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Reminder that Magnus can use daemonology

>>51772709
>>51772728
Got to mission 5 and got bored. Extremely bland story, enemies run at you in a straight line from the same 2-3 places and next to no variety in enemies whatasoever.

Don't even get me started on the canon rape.

>>51772665
>Nemesor is sitting way in the back hiding in ruins all game
Any force with mobility fill suck you over here.

> where you would put those extra 40-60 points?
Drop a bike an immortal and them to get 5 lychguard with sheilds.

Only suggestions btw the list IS solid.

>>51772748 Everything post 3E eye of terror campaign.

Everything.

Yes. Even that.

>>51772734
I don't know if he could resurrect ANYONE, even if she is the god of death... Even if he could, is sanguilli's body still preserved?

>>51772748
>>51772752
ditto

>>51772759
No he cant.

He doesnt generate any spells, he has all tzeentch spells and thats it.

>>51772748
Space Marines. I think the only ones that should exist are Chaos Space Marines. After the heresy the imperial ones should have slowly died out and the new Chaos Marines are all heretical science experiments.

The best of humanity should be the storm troopers and we should have more badass characters from there.

Next in line would be Eldar. Space Marines and Eldar are the gayest shit to me and the most boring. The setting is perfect in my mind without them, but what can you do? I just keep it to myself unless someone asks.

>>51772582
Even if the WK wins in melee, it's no contest in shooting. Either the Wraithknight dies before it gets into shooting range or the Stompa doubles and turns itself into 800 points of useless scrap. There's not really another option there.

>>51771272
So is this going to become the new
>I2
meme?

>>51772671
You like big cats, huh, Aenon?

>>51772748
Black Library. All of it.

>>51772771

I still maintain that the armies should all be cut back down to "You only get to stay if you're in the 3rd ed rulebook."

>Space Marines
>Imperial Guard
>Sisters of Battle
>Eldar
>Dark Eldar
>Chaos Space Marines
>Tyranids
>Orks

>>51772734
we don't know the full range of this new born god's power, not to mention he's not powered all the way yet. hell if he could be powered by dark eldar souls, human and ork souls he could get up to 100% easily

>>51772759
incorrect and outdated information, 1/10 see me after class.

>>51772798
why

>>51772773
Sanguinius'body is indeed preserved on Baal, in a BLOOD sarcophagus, basically the most sacred placefor BA.

However, the big difference between Guiliman and Sangui is that one died 10k years ago, while the other was still very alive, but dying, and frozen in that instant.

Just like for the TS that get the rubric reversed. Those didn't die per se, they still had souls, incased in their armours, with the barest flick of life within them.

>>51771781
Thanks for posting the pics, the conversion looks nice with the scout bodies, certainly a lot better than the conquistador breastplates Scions usually have.

>>51772748

295 pt Wraithknights

>>51772636
Not all flyers have armor 12. Plenty have 11 or 10

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>>51772798
no.

>>51772748
In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

>>51772804
*Grey Knights
*Harlequins
*Tau
*Necrons
*KROOT

God I'd kill to go back to 3rd. I would literally kill for it. All I want is a 3rd ed group. That's all.

>>51772777
He's a psyker, psykers generate powers equal to their ML. Does the rule that gives him all the Tzeentch powers specifically deny him the ability to generate powers normally?

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>>51772748
Tau

>>51772748
Ultramarines as the token chapter. Just make GW give other chapters equal time to shine.

>>51772839
Who lives in Melbourne Australia and would be willing to play 3rd ed?

>>51772807
>>51772833
Everything wrong with 40k fluff comes from there. Imagine a world without Goto/ADB/Abnett wankery.

>>51772768
Aww shucks, now I just need to learn how to use it well, there's units (like destroyers) I've literally never ran in a game, in still getting them all assembled

Lychguard worry me, a bunch of S5 AP3 isn't very worrisome to a lot of armies and without a transport they are just gonna get shot to death even with a 3++ 4+++ rerolling ones, and then that seems like a lot of points to backline as bodyguards for nemesor so I have to try and do something with them, I do actually own some that a friend sold me cheap so I'll try em, thanks dude

>>51772748
Anything bigger than a Broadside from Tau and all Super Heavies/Lords of War.

>>51772789
I saw it and it made me kek, so I carried to torch

>>51772748
Abaddon

>>51772728
>any legitimate criticism of warhammer franchise video games is trolling
keep telling yourself that

>>51772734
Sanguinius soul was eaten by Horus while Guilliman was only mortally wounded and frozen in time.
>Wanting homosexual bishonen pretty boy
Shit taste.

>>51772821
And they all shit.
>>51772819
Yeah, i don't like their breastplate too. Btw scouts chest is wider than scions.

>>51772791
You know what he doesn't like?

>elves

>>51772748
Imperial Guard and their fanbase.

>>51772909
You take that back.

>>51772805
>outdated information
Wrong
Still don't believe me? Check the faq on Black Library it was updated January 20th 2017

>>51772748
White necrontyr

>>51772842
No

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>>51772897
I'm considering just using these Cadian hostile environment torsos from ForgeWorld to complete the Scions to Kasrkin conversion.

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>>51772506
Half the Dark Angels turned traitor, but all of them knew the Lion to be loyal to the Emperor. They willingly followed Luthor into Chaos against him, attacking their brothers for staying Loyalist.

Sure, the situation and the DAngel's need to save face have lead to some sketchy situations, but the Lion's loyalty was never in any codex, book, campaign and short story, questioned. Shit, a Changer of Ways gave up trying to corrupt him because he couldn't find anything to make the Lion fall.

It's like you just shitpost on 4chan without even reading any of the fluff in question- Oh wait, that's exactly what you've done. The Lion is a Traitor meme is overplayed and just false.

>>51772748
Any meme spawned from DoW

So assuming GW don't flush the setting down the toilet after the gathering storm what other "triumvirate" boxes and accompanying lore would you like to see?

>>51772909
I've sent several deathstrike missiles to your house anon, they should arrive shortly

Where will they land? I don't fucking know, guardsmen close their eyes before shooting pieplates in my army

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>>51772791
>>51772907
>implying beautiful, magestic cheetahs aren't in every single way superior to Aeldari homosexuals and travestites
>Aeldari

>>51772510
>>51772554
Cypher acted as an agent for Abaddon.

>>51772947
I've got to get some of those for void-hardened armor.

>>51772921
Its easy to hate edgy militarist nazis who only keep fighting by killing own people

>>51772972
Before fucking him over and running away like the giggling faggot he is

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R8
I've yet to play my gay knights with Inquisitor allies. Hope it turns out ok.

>>51772582
you can't do both in the same game

>>51772972
Yeah and now he's working with Guilliman. His motives were pro-Imperium.

>>51772971
Who let the furfaggot in?
Go back to your diaper fetish, freak.

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Is she dead forever?

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>>51772971
You seem pretty fixated on them being gay. Anon, are you trying to tell us something?

Do you want to wake up to the feeling of a pointed ear caressing your face after a long night of taking hardcore anal intercourse with a reformed Aeldari Kabalite?

C'mon man, you know you want a Crystaline Sanchez.

>>51773006
or ... Were they?

>>51772999
>Low model count/ ten

Even with those allies you're gonna be hurting on numbers, drop the brother captain and buy a squad of purifiers and a rhino with incenorators for them at least

This is coming from a GK player, you will be outnumbered, just need to try and negate it as much as you can

Also you've got to get some more anti armour in that list, another thing GKs struggle with

>also nice trips son of titan

>>51773016
What even Ynnead just brings people back as wraiths if they haven't JUST died. so... i'm going with she's stuck as a 100 ft tall pychoactive machine

>>51772999
Also drop that strike squad for another dreadknight, ten man PAGK units are just ugly as sin

>>51773016
Death means little tothe Aeldari. So long as she had her soulstone on, she could come back as a:
Wraithseer
Wraithlord
Wraithguard
Wraithknight!
>she clearly will have a surviving twin sister.

>>51772748

>>51772952 This. Text-to-speech is the worst thing ever spawned from 40K

>>51773074
her twin brother rescued her soulstone as the core eldar story in DoW2:Retribution

>>51773065
>What even Yncarne just brings people back as wraiths if they haven't JUST died.

FIFY

Ynnead hasn't fully awakened yet. Once he awakens, he will be able to reincarnate the Eldar.

>>51773003
I'm saying either way you kit a Wraithknight out it can rape a stompa, and has a very good chance of killing it or at least getting it down to where the rest of your army can finish it, let's not forget he's worth over twice as much as a wraithknight

>btw not an eldar fag, just seen what they do

>>51773051
Yes.

>>51772561
guillimans always been a bro

he had his differences with some of his brothers but he held respect for them.

he also was one of the only priamrchs to not treat normal humans like shit

>>51773084
>her twin brother
>her soulstone
>in DoW2:Retribution

Good to know, I never played Eldar's campaign in DOW2.

So she'll be back as the Eldar's Wraithknight named character.

>>51771806
Titty robots?

>>51773084
but anon, that's idranel, not taldeer

>>51772819
Huh, I myself really like the 15th century/conquistador chestplate design.

I actually just bought some Scions on eBay; I want to eventually use the Wrathful Crusade formation, despite its issues, and also needed a unit from a second non-admech Imperial faction to run Castellans of The Imperium. I'm going to outfit them as deep-strike melta squads while my Crusaders rush toward the front line.

>>51773130


All campaigns minus Nids are canon

>>51773080
Like we can agree TTS is funny and gives most people the giggles right?

But literally every time a new person comes to the game shops we have to endure a month of METAL BAWKSIES until they realize everyone and their mom also read 1d4chan and got burned out on it

It even affects the community on how they see lore, with half the people on /tg/ thinking Magnus will turn good because of TTS Magnus not being evil, just misunderstood

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r8 my list pls m8s

>>51772999
Aren't techmarines 90 points?

So can Ynnead resurrect the Emperor or not?

>>51773112
But... BUT no one can like Rowboat because GW shills him! REEEE

Do people hate Guilliman because of Fatt Ward or because they genuinely dislike his character

>>51773182
Ynnead is the Emperor

>>51773182
The Emperor isn't dead.

>>51773052
So what, make it a squad of 10 purifiers?
>anti armour
Well local meta has me going against Nids, Deldar & Blangels so it's not too big a hassle until I5 deathcompany assrape me.
>drop that strike squad for another dreadknight
I'd like to do something besides just adding dreadknights. Besides, low model count, remember?
>also nice trips son of titan
>Not 666
It was a hollow victory
>>51773181
>90 points
Ass, you're right.

>>51773182
Eldar council literally said that Roboute is their only hope and his father is over.

>>51773112
>gorillamon has always been a bro
>bullied alpharius
>cucked lorgar
>disliked for being a stuck up prick and gloating about his victories
>started imperium secundus on questionable grounds

Debatable

>>51773198
bit of both, but if you're talking about the plastic miniature, we simply hate it because IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT THAT EVEN PRIVATER PRESS WOULD BE ASHAMED TO RELEASE

>>51773208
trusting xenos, if they made the emperor whole again he would crush all xenos again.

>>51773168
It is possible that Magnus could turn good, after all, one of the chaos primarchs will change sides. Magnus is a pretty strong contender.

>>51773208
The emperor is effectively the reservoir of all human souls in the galaxy, if he gets removed from his current position, then who knows where the souls will go in the future.

>>51773239
kys

>>51773239
It can only be alpharius (if he's not really dead) or magnus

>>51773269
Not an argument.

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>>51773010
>you can't appreciate the beauty of an animal in a non-sexual way
>Aeldari player fapped to gay furshit so much he thinks everyone is like him
You literally just confirmed everythinf I've said about Aeldari players.

>Aeldari cucks are literal furfags
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>51772748
The Ork's "magical" bullshit. They should be idiot savants/MacGyver, not "lol red wunz go faster :^)"

>>51773204
Two units of five in rhinos to shit out cleansing flame and provide more warp charges, though this tactic was nerfed slightly

You always wanna MSU for GKs because they are already so few and numbers and generate more warp charges, so squads of five is usually best
>dreadknights
Unfortunately DKs are your best (and imo coolest) unit, two is almost mandatory because theynrape face and help kill armour, if you're really against it attach a dreadnought to the stormraven and drop it in the enemy lines ready to assault, but that would be intentially handikapping you because dreadknight>dreadnought 99% of the time

Otherwise not too bad of a list if you're a newbie, my first few were... questionable to say the least

>>51773288
Fuck off faggot, that's the best part about Orks.

>>51773168
I don't find it funny personally, but most people enjoy it so whatever. What really gets me is the finger puppet stillimages, bobbing up and down all the time. I get it, but I hate it.

But as you said, the memespewing is by far the worst aspect of it.

>>51773282
Not an argument for not killing yourself.

>>51773239
>after all, one of the chaos primarchs will change sides

No.

There is no source for this. It's a dumb lie started in this board

>It is possible that Magnus could turn good,

No, Magnus is an eternal part of Tzeentch and utterly loyal to the god. In MoW it's said that he has aburning hatred for mankind and seeks their downfall.

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>>51773049
>trying to conceal your fedoraposting after getting BTFO yesterday
>so butt-blasted about being called out on his faggotry he goes into recruitment mode

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Gorkanaught is best naught.

>>51773311
Cool shitpost bro.

>>51773239
He's a daemon now, his soul is owned by a chaos god and literally part of his soul is that chaos god, it would be like if scarbrand turned good

Also Magnus is even more arrogant than he was in 30k, he no doubt sees everyone but him as retarded worms wriggling around him

>>51773288
But if not for the magical bullshit their tech wouldn't make sense.

How can terminator armour be a difficult to produce relic when a mek can just weld together some mega armour from scrap?

>>51773288
>not wanting orks to be the fun army
>people still play the worst army in the game because of how fun and silly they are
>wanting orks to be not orky

Da boss wuz lookin for you

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>>51772950
Maybe but here's the thing:

The Dark Angels' "dark secret" as it's presented in the canon is fucking underwhelming and laughable.

Lion'El Jonson SHOULD be retconned into being the traitor all along because that would suddenly JUSTIFY the whole guilt, tragedy and secrecy theme much better than their current fluff does.

It would improve the Dark Angel tenfold flavor-wise, and if you disagree, you don't like the Dark Angels as characters, you just like hoods and the color green.

>>51773339
>Coming from a MAGNUS IS LOYALIST shitposter
;^)

I need an Ultramarine or Imperial Fist successor to paint my dudes as. Preferably one of those chapters that has a scheme and a name and nothing else.

>>51773335
10/10 would play against

There's basically no ork army I wouldn't play against, like even other shit armies they'll have lists and I think "God this is gonna be a grind" not orks

>>51773386
Malal :)

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>>51773386
You should use this but switch out the purple if you'd like

>>51773131
The miniatures were not Slaaneshy enough

>>51773112
Pretty much. I think people just hate Guilliman because of the Ward era. Personally I really like the inspiration behind his character, and as far as the Primarchs go he was definitely among the less-dickish. Hell, I don't even like the Ultramarines that much and I like Guilliman.

Plus, as far as getting a Primarch back to improve the Imperium goes, Big Bobby G is a pretty sure bet, given that he's both a General and an administrator/politician.

>>51773172

Don't put sponsons on a Battle Tank. For those same 20 points that you're spending on heavy bolters that have to snap-fire you could upgrade those BTs to Demolishers, buy more upgrades for your command squads, or even put those same heavy bolters on infantry squads where they can fire at BS3-4 and take orders.

With the 40 points you could shave, I'd recommend getting a Regimental Standard and maybe Carapace Armor or Camo Cloaks for your CCS and Grenade Launchers for your Infantry Squads (Krak Grenades are essentially an extra Autocannon shot while a Frag Grenade can be considered as a small blast lasgun as opposed to a single lasgun shot at 24").

Also keep in mind that your Executioner will run the risk of glancing itself to death without Prescience or Preferred Enemy.

Whats a good list for Lost and the Damned/ Vraks Renegades for 750 points? No detachments/formations allowed.
I can either go with a unending host without the bonuses or go 2 squads of Renegade grenadiers 2x Melta and a chimera tank with out without stud/heavy bolters for 5 points and a squad of 3 multi laser sentinels. Or just go with 1 mutilator instead.

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>>51773131
Those boobs double as balls for that dick gun

>>51773448
Also got a fully upgraded Valkyrie for the grenadiers.

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>I can sense the autistic rage and screeching when magnus is loyal becomes false

Your thoughts will Fail you /tg/

>>51773214
>dick to traitors
>dick to traitors
>shit that didn't happen
>fair enough, but there is a pretty good reason for it

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>>51771272
>Egyptians were black and African

>>51773168
Aside from Rogal Dorn I really don't find it funny. The line delivery is so awkward and un-funny at times.

>>51773293
But I can combat squad divide 1 10 into 2 5's. Or are you saying to get 2 separate squads of 5, both in rhinos?
I dunno about the dreadnought assault. I'm not hurting for melee.
I have the stormraven, btw, to improve my reserve rolls thanks to skies of death. It can also bring the dakka, and AP.

>if you're a newbie
Ouch, granted I am a 7e baby who started around a year ago..

>>51773172
Sponsons on battle cannon tanks are fairly useless

>>51773448
>>51773466
..And a medusa immobilized arty with breacher shells

>>51773448
Go with the ordnance tyrant so you can get quad launchers and heavy mortars as non compulsory troops.

>>51773495
>tfw have those russes left over from 5th
>6th ed dex fucks over the russ
>again

>>51773214
Guilliman didn't like Alpharius because Guilliman was all about setting up a stable government on a planet that was conquered, and Alpharius' tactics usually left a planet utterly ravaged and in total anarchy.

>>51773507
how much and how many other troops?

Cypher sent us to hell - but we're going even deeper - take back everything that we've lost!

>>51771272
AYO HOL UP
>smacks lips
YO HOL UP
>breathes through teeth
SO YOU BE SAYIN LIKE
>smacks lips
THAT WE WUZ
>grabs crotch
WE WUZ
>destroys the Old Ones
WE WUZ SILENT KEENGZ
>vandalizes the Webway
N SHIET?
>steals from other races

I read so much hate for Matt ward that it's clearly meme territory. However I just read a couple of his work and despite knowing the backlash.. it was actually pretty good! I know own that's the same as saying rob Liefeld is a good artist around here.

>>51773168
it's meh

it's basic tone discrepancy humor, with a few ebin cultural references here and there. Entry-level memester material that's barely above MLP/40K crossovers in terms of wit.

>>51772891
>Sangüinius
>shit taste
>soul devoured by Horus
Oh boy, you have been living your live wrong up until now.

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>>51773361
>>51773362
Think of the custom weapons from Fallout 3.
They're weapons made out of random scrap, cobbled together with duct tape/welding/etc.
It isn't the most effective or high tech way of making things, but it still makes a bit of sense.

There's a difference between "That doesn't make sense..." and "That shouldn't have worked..." and I feel Orks would be better as the latter. It doesn't make them any less orky or any less fun or silly.

>>51773485
Stormraven is cool, it helps GKs a lot
I prefer multiple rhinos to cover the field with your rape bubble, but now that you have to disembark to nova it's basically one trick ponies since you can't do drive bys anymore

Hmm well if you aren't scared of allies coteaz is a bro for life and suicide melts scions fill a sexy little niche

I started about a year and a half ago, sorry dude I forget I'm still considered a newfag too lol

>>51773548
This makes me want to stab a nigger or 12 in the face.

Lip Smackers aren't fucking human and I'll kill you if you disagree.

>>51773542
As many as you can after having the compulsory filled.

>>51773590
ow the edg

>>51773580
yeah but Orks aren't JUST silly, we should be able to take them seriously without any effort, and the whole meme magic thing isn't the kind of shit that helps.

>>51773561
Matt Ward wrote the best rules in 40k, in comparison to his own rules that is. Having a Ward dex meant having a solid, well rounded, stong and fluffy dex. Its just that half the others were still trash making it look unfair. This along with his sometimes retarded fluff cased the hatred to begin to snowball.

>>51773590
nobody cares, son

>>51772241
Warlord Titan. Done.

>>51773475
>help push someone over the edge to become traitor
>pushed future traitors (?) to work harder but never feel good enough
>pretty sure in a lot of books other legions like the deathguard talk about how the ultramarines are stuck up cunts
>yeah I think we won't know the full effects of imperium secundus until the Horus herasy has moved on

>>51773604
>>51773542
So essentially 1-4 quad or heavy mortars per troop slot. They just can't be your only counting troops.

>>51773548
Days gone without kek-ing at /pol/ tier humor: 0

>>51772950
No, no, Anon. Half the Chapter will turn to support Cypher in the third Gathering Storm book. Not heresy era.

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>>51773468
>mfw Magnus will be permanently killed with the jolly cooperation between the Khaldor Draigo with the GK and Leman Russ leading the remaining SW
/TG/ will implode out of the sheer butt hurt pain and rage.

>>51773638
Chaos sigil or vox for squads? I dont really understand the ordnance tyrant laws, having the template over friendly units. in normal HQ you cant have the template going over friendly units?

>>51772606
>>51772644
>>51772668
It looks horrible.

Animations are Chinese-freemium-game tier.

Particle effects are used with absolutely no consideration to visibility whatsoever.

Color choices are objectively bad.

Flat terrain textures.

Unit design is horrible. Silhouette work is non-existant. The people making this game are obviously promoted amateurs.

Terrain system is streamlined and basic because they couldn't actually think of a way to make melee viable

Lore is broken for completely bullshit things (Lascannons).

Heroes are an integral part of gameplay and have Dota mechanics to appeal to braindead children.

Super units are giant robots for the reddit audience.

Face it anon, it's gonna be a shitty cash in.

>>51773507
>>51773638
Also, Ordnance Tyrant allows your heavy support to be taken as elites. So here's what you should field, but I'm a bit busy so I can't fully make the list for you.

HQ
Arch demogogue. Ordnance Tyrant, MoN, x4 disciples

Troops
x17-20 plague zombies
x17-20 plague zombies
x3 quad launchers
x3 quad launchers

Elites
x2 Wyverns
x2 Wyverns

Heavy Support
x3 rapier lasers
x3 rapier lasers
x3 earthshakers

Almost positive you don't have the points for all this so one quad gun unit, 2 single wyverns and the rest should fit.

>>51773610
If not for "meme magic" then what do Orks have that makes them a threat?

They're weak, slow, stupid savages with ramshackle tech. If not for their ability to create amazing, reality deifying gizmos then they're just a joke race.

>>51773718
>Chaos sigil or vox for squads?
Whay about loyalty and eternal service under the Emperor's light? This definitely sounds better.

>>51772748
Gathering Storm

Anyone watching the stream right now mind doing me a favor and asking if Trueborn and Bloodbrides are allowed in the Ynnari Reborn Bladehost? I'm not subbed.

>>51773718
Don't bother with infantry platoons. At 150 points with chaos sigil and no militia training they're less effective than how amazing plague zombies are now with Vraks. The point cost went up but they lost Slow and Purposeful and the useless special rule to get more zombies. Best tarpit in the game aside from MAYBE mutant rabble with enforcer and combat stims.
Ordnance tyrant lets you place the pie plate over your own units so in case there's few models in the enemy unit it won't scatter completely off your target more easily.
Normal HQ you can never target your own units. This rule is only ever obtained otherwise by Skaven in WHFB. Don't bother with infantry, they're not fearless so even with the icon they could just fucking flee.

>>51773703
Honestly I think the only way they can redeem draigo is by having him die

And this is coming from a huge GK fan

His lore is just so wacky over the course of several editions of Mary Sue-ism

Have him do some epic battle with a greater daemon or even a primarch, but have it be literally a one sided fight with him just holding whatever it is off so they Grey Knights can complete some ritual or shit, then have him drop to his knees as the titan sword clatters to his side and give some end of blade runner tier speech and die

>a plastic draigo in a dreadknight model would be dank too

>>51773733
>game released
>no one cares about any of that shit
>"guys this game sucks it's objectively bad"
>"stop having fun!"
>you buy ansnplay through it, complaining the entire time

>>51773764
Papa Nurgle offers better treats
>>51773745
I can run everything up to 707 if battlescribe does not lie, without the earthshakers.