Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>51731302
>What's your character's origin story?
Last noble born son of an ancient house caught between two forces that have been manipulating his family for generations.

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>>51731302
Uh...
...I dunno.

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Continued. Double kukri TWF warpriest, with a possible Vigilante gestalt. What's some good advice I can take, particularly as it relates to TWF? Merits of Strength vs Dex? Good Archetypes?

Pretty limited 3pp. Definitely no spheres or PoW. Jolly's vigilante stuff I could probably slide, anything I should look at there?

>>51731302
Super mega autist who autisted so hard she figured out how to fight with weaponized autism.

>>51731302
>What's your character's origin story?

He's a former woodsman from a small village that knocked up a local forest spirit and got shackled with caring for his little Chaneling squirt for the next 16 years!

The call for adventure came when a dragon burned down his village and seemingly kidnapped his daughter.

>>51731366
>Lamashtu

Protean Prowler, maybe. It lets you take abilities from an Unchained Eidolon. I think most people use it for natural attacks, but there's plenty of useful stuff in there that isn't claws and teeth, including some easy energy immunity, fat untyped skill bonuses, and very early Pounce (7th level). You'll be mutating abomination too, which fits the theme. The downside is giving up a lot of vigilante talents and your specialization.

I'm having difficulty finding a pic I used to have on my computer.

It's of an androgynous looking young knight/cleric/paladin wearing medieval styled armor. They have the typical young angelic face with some tears running down it, and the old medieval style halo line around their head. The sun is breaking through the clouds above them and there's the faint impression of wings behind them. Beneath them, there are a series of grizzled soldiers, and the main figure appears to be walking along shields.

Any help would be splendid. It's a rather large picture.

>>51731302
He is the bastard child of a calistrian and a merchant noble. The calistrian dropped him off to the merchant, who made the child be almost a slave, as in not getting any benefits of being his blood. Eventually when he, the character, grew older he went up and yelled his father down and went off to become a respected member of the family. He married, got two children and decided to leave for a while to get away from the tedious mercantile life.

>>51731414
Nice self insert

Anyone know any items or feats to increase reach for AoO and/or increase threatened area size?
Trying to build the ultimate nope-zone Warder. Already got the maneuvers figured out. Reach is 15, sometimes 20 right now, while the nope-zone is 25, sometimes 30 feet.

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Tell me about the characters you wrote when you were absolutely plastered, do you still love them? Were they well-written?

>>51731414
What a coincidence, I also made someone autistic!
>Obsessed with killing monsters
>is really good at it
>I mean really fucking good
>strong enough to rip a tower from a castle, and then proceed to crush the castle with it
>strong enough to turn a ship into an airship
>could single-handedly take over a kingdom just by how utterly, physics-defyingly strong he is
>only interested in killing monsters, will only fight humanoids out of necessity

>>51731302
Currently playing in an ultra-lewd drow-focused game set in the Forgotten Realms and using 3.5 and Pathfinder material.

My character is a tiefling and the youngest daughter of her House. She's a Theurge with some modifications to account for certain campaign concepts. She grew up as something of a golden child, facing all kinds of praise but also abuse and torment thanks to her natural gifts.

>>51731512
>She grew up as something of a golden child, facing all kinds of praise but also abuse and torment thanks to her natural gifts.

Okay, I know it's misused a lot, but that sounds mary sue as fuck.

>>51731526
All of the player characters are mary sues (or gary stus for the male characters) to one degree or another so it's not a big deal.

>>51731500
Hey, that's MY character, anon! No stealing!

Is yours a Brutal Slayer too?

>>51731302

>What's your character's origin story?

(Half-Elf Magus)

He's a Half-Elf nobleman of Half-Elf ancestry (third generation on his noble-born mother's side, second on his common-born father's side) from a distinguished Elvish noble house.

He's way down the line of succession, so he has very little chance or hope to inherit the Kingdom. When his mother passes or abdicates, he'll take over her titles and pass them on to his children, or his siblings.

In the meantime, he's happy to learn more magic from his former-King and Great-Grandfather (Full Elf), and wander about doing good deeds in the name of his Kingdom, his family, and for the sake of doing good.

No crazy origin story here, just another young, noble scion acting on his wanderlust.

>>51731366
>Jolly's stuff I could slide

Jolly has a talent to skip the Dex requirements of TWF. Boom, you're in business for Str-Fightan.

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>>51731414
>weaponized autism

>>51731302
He was inspired to be a hero when he was but a wee pup, and aspired to be a man that could inspire confidence in humanity. So he trained, and practiced, and learned. Now that he's starting to get a taste of life, he's starting to forget that he's not human.

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>>51731686

Does it really matter if he's human, so long as he's a true hero?

>>51731663
I haven't read that one before, Jezz.

>>51731663
>Analwrecked about 2hu hard enough to make edited screencaps

Anon, I think you have a fucking problem.

>>51731703
All good things come to an end, in time

>>51731663
Save that for when it's needed, bro, or people are just going to ignore it like veilweavers.gif.

>>51731663
Too bad he uses that weaponized autism talking about Pathfinder instead of using it to find a cure for cancer or something.

Sandbox-anon here. I'm trying to decide on format for a Pathfinder game of this scale... I'm thinking PbP for the in-town shenanigans, but any out-of-town or between-town adventuring will happen in a roll20?

>>51731703

Etan is NOT a hero!

>>51731302
He was apprenticed to a suave, erudite knight to get him out of town when his teenage hormones were on the rise, and ended up as the kid sidekick to the man's adventures.

But for all the skills he developed, he still considers his origin story to have not started yet, and leaps at any chance to make a good name for himself.

>>51731703
He might be a real hero, but he's not a real human bean.

>>51731737
Yet!

are we seriously going to do this every time

>>51731762

Every. Hecking. Time.

>>51731762

Foxes cannot be heroes.

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What a particularly unproductive day

>>51731830
let him pretend

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Yo all, updates on SoM; we're hoping to get a full-ish playtest up sooner rather than later, probably in the next 2-4 weeks depending on if we can get everything together. Most of the spheres are around 75-100% finished, the classes are a bit more rough though, and I've been working to make sure there should be a poison sphere at some point which uses its own poison rather than working with currently existing poisons (because they're terrible).

I've been trying to keep up with the docs and previews, and I'm glad to see the rest of the team has been hitting them up too. Happy Valentines day, y'all!

>>51731302
>What's your character's origin story?
Man, you almost got me. I was about to post it, but then I remembered where I was.
Phew.
Damn, dodged a bullet there. Don't want my shit getting ripped into.

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>>51731980

>original character donut steel

>>51731992
See, this kind of comment isn't hurtful because you have absolutely no idea what my post was going to be like.

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>>51731946
Tentatively looking forward to it, since I'm pretty much convinced that mos of the actually good parts of it will just be in the Legendary Talents or whatever. Here's hoping it can make it to being a reasonable subsystem!

I can't wait to feel physical pain when I see the Gish stuff!

What's your favourite level range?

>>51732065

1-6

>>51732065
3-11

>>51732065

I love starting at level 9!

>>51732000
it's female guts and griffith her brother.

Dude, have you tried just not talking about it instead of creating this little self-sustaining NaCl reaction?

>>51732065
5-12

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Tell me about Ustalav!

>>51732106
I've alluded to my character via shitposting before, but that's not me.

>>51732128
Fucked up.

Alchemist 2, wizard x can have both arcane bonds via tumor familiar?

>>51732128
isnt it just scooby doo transylvania?

>>51732160
Could an alchemist with 3 hands dual wield and use a shield?

>>51732178
Vestigial arm is such a poorly written ability, it's impossible to say without knowing your GM.

>>51732128
Why does it wear the mist?
...Lotta loyalty for a hired necromancer!

>>51731946

I'm very interested in seeing what the playtest is like.

It's unfortunate that my fellow GM does not seem to be warming to the idea of SoM so far, but then he hated Spheres of Power when that first came out and now that's the only magic system we use, so maybe he'll come around.

I'm still pretty darn interested in finally getting a peek at the Dueling and Fencing spheres.

>>51732128
Everything is vampires.
And if it isn't a vampire? It's under control of a vampire.
Or a Werewolf.
Or they could even be a Werewolf Vampire.
Sadly everything isn't spiders.

>>51732065
Dunno. Only played like three sessions ever, and all were different campaigns. But I have to say that the level 5 one was actively engaging because the characters could DO THINGS.

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>>51732128

There's a few things to keep in mind about Ustalav.

1. Everyone you meet is probably dominated by a vampire and cannot be trusted. This includes friendly innkeepers, unfriendly sheriffs, other vampires, your party members and you.

2. If you think, "It'll be fine, I just have to hold out til morning", you're gonna have a bad time. Due to cloud cover and fog, conveniently placed mountain ranges, and evil magic, it's never morning in Ustalav.

3. Ustalav runs off of horror movie tropes. If you're a lady, project an aura of quiet strength and make sure you're able to adapt to any situation. If you're a male, chances are you're dead already, but try to attach yourself to the obvious heroine and hope you make it out alive. For either gender, whatever you do, DON'T SLEEP WITH ANYONE. You sound like you might be plucky comic relief, which is good because those characters live longer so there's a stark contrast from all the terror.

4. If a party member suggests splitting up, don't listen to them. They've been dominated by a vampire and can no longer be trusted.

5. Remember that a wooden stake to the heart kills most things, not just vampires, so it's a useful tool.

6. Don't look into mirrors, that's a vampire's favorite time to be behind people.

7. If someone can conclusively prove they aren't a vampire, they're a werewolf and can no longer be trusted.

8. Like stakes to the heart, fire will kill most things. There is no such thing as too much fire. Can't make an omelet without putting a few vampire-infested villages to the torch. If anyone objects to burning down an entire village to kill one suspected vampire, they've been dominated and can no longer be trusted.

>>51732065
5-18.

It took two years.

>>51732128
Basically Überwald from Discworld.

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>>51731302

/pfg/ I have a task for you, I wish to Dual wield Dwarven Dorn-durgers. (Chain Flails).

The required feats are Two Weapon Fighting, Chain-Flail Master, and Darting viper.

I know you can pull this off. Good luck

>>51732128
"MA! GO GET THE PRIEST! GRANDAD'S A ZOMBIE! AGAIN!"

>>51732065
1-20 prove me wrong

>>51732283
Single-class, or gestalt?

>>51732310

Lets go single class

How difficult is it for a pure martial to multiclass into a pure caster class and vice versa?
Is it better to just go straight Wizard/Cleric/Sorcerer for every level in most cases?

>>51732325

Fighter 2/Wizard 8/Eldritch Knight = 15 BAB, 9th level spells

>>51732346

Sorry

ighter 2/Wizard 8/Eldritch Knight 10 = 16 BAB, 9th level spells

>>51732364
What about playing through that build from level 3?

>>51732322
Probably Slayer for the class, then--lets you get a reliable weapon damage bonus from Strength going early on, while also getting access to TWF without having to bump up Dex.

>>51732380

Fighter 1 -> Wizard 6 -> Eldritch Knight 10 -> Wizard 8 -> Fighter 2

>>51732396
Let's go human slayer with adoptive parentage, lets you skimp a little on Int and Dex so you get more points into pump up Strength and Constitution.
1 - Power Attack
2 - Slayer Talent (Ranger Combat Style [Two-Weapon Fighting])
4 - Slayer Talent (Rogue Talent [Combat Trick]), Chain-Flail Master
5 - Darting Viper

>>51732325
It's better for you to go full sorcerer 20 or wizard 20 or cleric 20 or Druid 20.

>>51732456
Oh, and let's go Weapon Focus for level 3--since you've got just the one weapon, it works a lot better.

Does a potion or spell of bear strength stack with a mutagen?

>>51732507
Unless otherwise noted, yes. The potion or spell is an enhancement bonus, mutagen is alchemical.

Do tanglefoot bags deny enemy AC?

>>51732524
Awesome

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>>51732456
>>51732479

This is really good. Thanks!

Have a durgen for your trouble!

>>51732527
They do not.

They inflict Entangled, which is -4 Dex and -2 to attack rolls. It does not 'Deny Dex to AC'.

Which is a better EL 20 encounter, /pfg/?

>1x CR 19, 1x CR 16, 2x CR 12
>1x CR 18, 1x CR 17, 2x CR 13
>1x CR 18, 3x CR 15
>2x CR 17, 1x CR 16, 1x CR 13
>2X CR 17, 2x CR 15
>4x CR 16

>>51732680
4x16

>>51732673
Damn, would be nice.

>>51731302
She was helping her parents study birds when a bunch of ghosts decided to haunt her for the rest of her life. They can only throw stuff around but it's still pretty annoying.

Then a half-orc taught her how to shoot a bow and arrow!

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>>51732576
Too big!
Slim down!
Get ripped!

>>51732771

Atolm, Shush

>>51732065
3 to 15!

Hey, any chance I could get some playtesters/players for my sandbox campaign? I'm reluctant to post the link just yet, I want to see if anyone actually cares first.

>>51732830
I'd be down for it, any kind of houserules/3pp stuff going on fer it?

>>51732065
I normally use every 4 levels as bench marks. Personally I love 8-12.

So what deities give a diplomacy bonus for their deific obedience?

>>51732846
No 3pp quite yet, but I am pondering up some houserules for player-made quests

https://discord.gg/hTZxEx8

Does any discipline make use of stuff like shoulder slams/riposte/shield slams in order to move around and reposition enemies?

I am looking for swordmanship based stuffed that isn't either "dex faggot" or "barbarian smash".

>>51732830
>15 point buy
>starting level 1
>only core races

Why?

>>51732927
Yeah, that's probably too low, given the lack of player base. Let me fix it up a bit. What do you recommend?

>>51732920
Shield bashes are firmly Iron Tortoise's domain, ripostes are Mithral Current/Scarlet Throne, shoulder slam is kinda Primal Fury, which is charge stuff.

>>51732947
20 and 3, maybe open up the races a little bit but that's probably the least troubling - though expect everyone to go like, human.

>>51732830
Depends on the game. I need more info.

>>51732947
Here is what I recommend:
>25 PB, high enough that it still forces some low numbers, but enough that MAD classes can get by
>Starting at level 3 is what I prefer, it makes for more interesting characters overall
>Pick 5-8 races and build your setting for them, stick to your guns with race restrictions. Kitchen sink race settings are cancer.

Is it just me or is it strange how neither Andoran nor Cheliax seem to give a shit at all about the Aspodell Mountains and the pass, the only thing between them? I mean even they were best friends it would be this hugely important tariffed highway to hell and back.

>>51731302
Pretty standard. Found on the side of the road by a band of mercs. Adopted in because why not, Aasimar are rare and seen as a sign of good fortune. Trained and lived with them for many years. Were contracted with a country during the Containment War. One arm and one leg were amputated due to infection. Got artificial limbs. Pretty common occurrence for those that took part in the war. Later, some members sold out the group for money. Lots died in the ensuing ambush. The group disintegrated. She hunted down the traitors with help from other ex-members. Now she's with the group after being a sellsword for a time.

>>51732983

>Paizo
>Understanding how nation-states interact

>>51732977
>>51732971
I disagree with opening them up. Seven is a good number for races, just make it more interesting than the core races. Build your setting around races and build them up culturally.

>>51732971
>>51732977
I did 20 PB, and starting Level 3. And since the campaign is in a very primordial state, I've loosened the race restrictions to Core + Any race worth 10RP or less. This includes custom ones, but don't expect that to last.

>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pl00apM9VDmhmLQZxzYJMmY6QLrLFhap3vH7bXnKtgg/edit
Can someone look at this for me. I feel like I'm missing something. Down in the Black Iron Knight archetype there are Knave's Tricks. It says you get one at level 1, level 4, then every 3 levels there after. However there are only three of them. Does this mean you can't take any more after level 7? Does the class feature stop working? Am I missing something?

Can you stack archetypes if they would conflict at a level you would never take?

>>51733055
They still don't stack. You could potentially ask your DM, but that's about it.

>>51733055
Nope

>>51732983
They're enemies, but they don't believe in closed borders. It's the only war you could name civil for its politeness.

>>51732864
Desna, kind of. Sacred Bonus to perform, and be a bard.

>>51733055
No
>tfw your archetypes are only competing to replace a stupid 20th level capstone

>>51733079
That's like going to war against canada.

Who the fuck writes "Sorry!" on the side of a fucking nuke?

>>51733096
Someone with a great sense of humor Tbh

>>51733109
good point

>>51733091
>>51733068
>>51733066
What a shame.

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>>51732002
That's possible; we want to make sure that we include legendary talents at all possible levels rather than having a hard limit to when legendary talents come online.

>>51732223
Well from the playtest I'm watching, it's worked well for them. Fencing and Duelist should be coming out with the full playtest we're preparing at this point.

>>51733117

It was a good build. What a rotten way to die.

Can you use the unchained monks flurry for the brawler?

>>51733189

what

>>51733197
Well, flurry is some weird two handed weapon attack. Unchained monk is just an extra attack, several at higher levels. Also, no -2 and all attacks at max BAB

Can you create a snowball with presitidigitation?

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Anyone have any other systems they like?

>>51733279
Yes. But it's kinda shitty.

>>51733282
>javelins
>worse than bows at short range

>>51733231
I mean definitely not by raw but I don't think it'd alter anything mechanically otherwise and it definitely wouldn't push Brawler out of full martial tiers.

If I were a DM I'd personally allow all flurrys to be unarmed flurrys, but it's definitely not how it works.

>>51733282
I like Fragged Empire, Unchained Heroes, FFRPG4e, GURPS, Pendragon, Battlelords of the 23rd Century, Silhouette, Battle Century Z, Ashen Stars...

There's a lot of good to great options once you finally leave the confines of d20.

>>51733282
I'm having fun with Don't Rest Your Head and Wildlings with my little brother and his friends.

>>51733340
Enlighten me. I really don't see the use of javelins.

>>51733389

Javelins are the same as composite shortbows except you don't need to pay for composite

>>51733282
Just move to 5e if you want a change. I mean, I don't love the system, but it's the "not too different" choice here for a person coming from Pathfinder. Anything else is a total tossup depending on what you're into.

>>51733389
In real life? They slammed clean through most non-heavy (and even then sometimes) armor and were basically fatal on impact unlike arrows. Heavier javelins, such as the Roman pilum, famously could basically make your shield completely useless if it hit right.
Also, since infantry can hold it, they can easily throw it on the charge and follow up with a stab or stroke in the same action. Most javelins also work as shittier spears in a pinch, and since you carry 2-3 as an infantryman you won't run out for the most part. Furthermore, although being GOOD at throwing a javelin and achieving actual decent range takes a lot of practice, at close range anyone can toss it because javelins are weighted to the front.
If the game doesn't reflect this just change it. There's plenty of bullshit in most systems so you just have to fix it (I'm not defending the system on this basis).

I'm about to start a 1-20 mythic campaign and I want to do three things, be a paladin, specialize in sundering and specialize on combat intimidate. My question isn't what exactly I should do for that I'm more wondering if it's even a good choice as a Paladin when it's super feat intensive! Help!

>>51733389
Traditionally, javelins were short ranged throwing spears. Not only do they make an okay weapon, but more importantly, you wrap them with an amentum and hurl one or two of them as enemies get close (about 20m) to fucking murder one or two of them before they get to you, who's probably now using his real spear behind his shield.

A good throw will mean a projectile with a large amount of force coming at you, and if it happened to be a weighted diamond-wedge tip like the roman pilum, if it didn't kill you it still tended to get stuck and drag you down; an even worse way to die than instant impalement if it should cause you to trip or otherwise fuck up.

Something I do when building intrigue that I think a lot of people miss or can't handle is initial placement. In my mind initial placement and adhering to said placement is what matters the most in creating an interesting narrative during intrigue that will keep the player's attention.

What I do is the following:
>make a list of NPCs that have a vested interest
>list NPCs resources
>list their personal goal
>list any sensitive information they have on another NPC
>list their general allegiances
>list a quick personality rundown
>list their mental stats
>list any personality traits/flaws that could be applicable

I do this before the scenario begins for every relevant NPC then review before and after each session if what the NPCs are doing this session adhere to these guidelines.

As well something I believe is very important is to have set pieces move when the players aren't looking. However much time passes for players in world the same amount of time passes for all NPCs.

I'll list an example NPC's rundown:
>Yurgot Brune
>Viscount of poor territory in the north east, controls traffic through mountain pass to Vorgoth, owns the majority of his nations breweries fairly large personal fortune
>Death of Baron Corgren's daughter's fiancee and establishing himself as a replacement
>Knows Baron Corgren has a bastard son he is hiding
>Strong allegiance to the crown, but disdain for most of the other noble families besides the royal, particularly of the Baron Corgren himself
>Conniving but a coward, if at all possible he will avoid direct confrontation and instead prefer subterfuge, will leave at the first sign of the tables turning
>Int: 16, Wis: 12, Cha: 8
>Coward, Cautious, Amoral, Detached

This man has an obvious pathway he will chart through a campaign. Indeed it may effect the PCs is he succeeds or not and change the course of the campaign even if he motives and goals aren't directly tied to that of the PC's.

>>51733433
>>51733445
Well I meant in the game not real life, but that's pretty neat anyway.

>>51733282
Ryuutama, Tenra Bansho Zero, 13th Age, L5R, DnDizzle: Dragons in the Hood...

>>51733455
Good advice

Lorewipe-anon here. Think-tanking that sandbox campaign I mentioned in >>51732830
How do you guys feel about adjusting XP rates based on the tierlist https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OG15EBUB1n4IEHl5GhzpV10hYqPkgtbfj4PIxZFh0E0/ ?
T1-2 get Slow, T3 get Medium, T4-6 get Fast?

>>51733584
Don't. That's just a massive bookkeeping headache.

>>51733601
It's okay, I'm an autist.

Can I combo channel energy and sanctuary aggressively? Or would channeling count as a damage spell and break the bubble?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/s/sanctuary/

>>51733601
>>51733619
The people on slow would only ever be 1-3 levels behind the people on fast.

Also, how would you work WBL? Give people on slow a smaller share? Doesn't make sense from an in game perspective.

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Alright niggas, tell me how I can end up polymorphing dragons into pets or lolis. Don't care which, I just want to have fun playing with really mad dragons now in cute animal/loli forms because why the fuck not. The party is already pretty silly outside of the Legolas we have.

>>51733651
Wealth would likely work based on the size of the encounters fought, not on the levels of the characters who fight them.

>>51733678
Polymorph Any Object and enough logic to justify making it permanent

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>>51733678
Just make a [unique] dragon who's shapeshifted into human-ish form
Aren't dragons natural shapeshifters anyway or am I retarded?

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>>51732128
Someone did a massive lore dump on it some time ago.

Someone should dredge it up. Start by searching for the name of the dude who founded it.

I'd do it, but I'm on mobile

>>51733728
They are, but what dragon would go human to then be turned into a loli, or stay dragon to be turned into a pet? The point is it's fun to make them small cute things so you can hug them while they want to murder you.

Also it's not for a character, I'm talking about going out and polymorphing one to take as a pet for my own character.

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>>51733678
>pets or lolis

>>51733282
My group wil soon try PTU. It looks kinda fun

>>51733746
>but what dragon would go human to then be turned into a loli, or stay dragon to be turned into a pet?
A [unique] one, [unique] NPCs can be different from the norm.
>Also it's not for a character, I'm talking about going out and polymorphing one to take as a pet for my own character.
Ah yeah. I bet [Wish] could do it or PAO + Permanency.

If I'm invisible do I hit vs flatfooted?

>>51733779
What's that?

>>51733817
Pokemon Trainers United.
We're gonna be the very best, like no one ever was

>>51733779
post transuranics?
you making starship hulls?

>>51733833
You say that, but next thing you know one of the characters is a crossdressed Adon and/or Samson, who punches rival pokemon to death FOR his tiny oshawott and calls it an attack.

>>51733282

You know what I love about that post?

>Crossbows suck because you can fire a longbow super fast and super often
>YOU CAN'T RELOAD A GUN THAT FAST, IT'S NOT REALISTIC! REEEE!

>>51733889
You can technically fire a longbow super fast and super often, you'll just be burnt out after about two minutes of continous shooting.

I'm looking to make a Cryptic in a gestalt game but I'm not really sure what to combine with it on the other side of the gestalt. I'm thinking something with full BAB and a strong fort save and preferably more skill points, which gives me a choice of options that looks something like Ranger/Slayer/Aegis/Warder/Warlord/Armorist/Mageknight, but nothing is really clicking for an effective combination in my head

>CR 1 is double CR 1/2
>Therefore CR 1 = CR 1/2 + 2
>There's no CR 1/2 + 1

why

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>>51731302

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>>51733863
I'm playing with a close group of friends, so this likely not going to happen.

So far we have
>a chef who specializes in psychics and is on a journey to "come up with a new recipe!"
>shonen action hero and his Tyrogue
>street urchin who steals to support his sick mother
>young rich kid and gentleman who wants to find purpose in life, and is on his Pokemon adventure to gain real world experience and be seen as worthy of the family name by his dad, a former royal general
The region is going to be Not!England, with the GM creating a whole new gym system. Honestly it looks like it will be super fun.

>>51733796
Yes. But only for the first attack if it breaks the invisibility.

>>51733967

HAHAHAHA! WOWZERS! IT'S A JOJO REFERENCE!

JOJO IS SO COOL, RIGHT GUYS? IT'S GOT [Stands] AND ALL THIS COOL STUFF?

>>51733986
Lingering Illusion+Invisibility from SoP.

>>51733782
>>51733703
So then if I were to use PAO on a dragon, how would I get it to be permanent? Going by its rules it would need 9+ on the duration factor to become permanent. Dragons are their own kingdom if I recall, so the +5 is out and therefore the 9 is out.

So how would I get that 9+ needed for permanency? Only way I can see it is if I turn the dragon into a smaller type like one from the Improved Familiar list. That would still be fun to turn a big dragon into an angry as hell calligraphy wyrm or pipefox, but it feels like that will be the extent of it.

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>>51733988
>being this much of a contrarian faggot

>>51733986
That's why I thought CA Ninja wasn't so bad, it had 1 round greater invisibility from level 2, enabling it to full attack while hard to hit, hard to see and without any flanking requirement.

>>51734017
Dude, turn them into a half-dragon

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>>51733988
Stands? Puh-lease, Stands are lame sauce. Everyone knows Golden Rectangles are superior.
At least, anyone who actually wryyyyyyyyyy'ds the manga that is.

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Don't hide it from me, /pfg/.

Link me to your character's theme song.

So folks I crunched the numbers and found out that Trappings of the Warrior /is kind of silly/ for a Meleecultist. And by Silly I mean you /need to take it/ if you're a meleecultist

Level 4
Array is 16 Strength, 16+2 Int, 14 Con, 10 everythin else

With a Half-elf, using the Elf FCB, and the Panoply Savant Archetype, we have 11 (4 from being a level 4 occultist, 4 from intelligence modifier, 2 from FCB, 1 from Panoply Savant) mental focus.

Our Transmutation Implement is a Greatsword, and our Abjuration Implement is a Buckler, allowing us to 2h the Greatsword without a penalty (we don't care about the AC from the buckler, it's just our implement).

The Transmutation implement grants us +2 Str per 3 mental focus. The Abjuration Implement grants us +1 Resistance per 2 points invested. We invest 3 into Trans. and 4 into Abjuration for a total of 7 for our TotW panoply. This grants us a BaB equal to our level.

Let's say we have Power Attack up as well. Because we have +4 BaB, and we're gonna be using a +1 Greatsword (it's within our WBL), our Power Attack is -2/+6 damage.

Our Strength is 16+2 from the Trans. implement. Two-handing our +1 greatsword (NOT an Okaysword, it's a GREATsword) grants us a +5/2d6+7 attack. Adding Power Attack makes that +3/2d6+13. Because we're an Occultist, we have Lead Blades and Enlarge Person. That grants us +2 Strength and two effective size categories, meaning we're doing +3/3d6+14. Because we have the Transmutation Focus Power and can use Legacy Weapon, we can add Bane, which is +2 Enhancement Bonus and +2d6 damage. That brings us up to +5/3d8+2d6+16. On a single attack. If it hits, it's 36.5 damage.

This is in addition to all the rest of your focus powers, and 6-level casting, and 6+Int skillpoints per level.

Also, question: Is Vigilante/Bushi Stalker (Path of War) decent? Should I drop Bushi and just go with Vigilante?

>>51734115

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKdRDi72Ov8

>>51734085
Holy fuck why didn't I think of that? Will take a second cast to further convert but that solves the problems. Even my captcha is telling me to polymorph drakes now, so I need to go do it. Only problem now is we have no wizards or sorcerers, but surely I can go hire one just for casting that spell.

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>>51734115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlfUcnSbKDA

>>51734115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VmRv8_vWjA

>>51734115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iySJykzz7Dk

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>>51734115

Hard Mode: Link me to another character's theme song.

>>51734164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He40owFC_8M

>>51734115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9TzXI0YjlQ

>>51734115

>Implying I have a character theme song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1NU-YkY3dk

>>51734115
He's a Shoanti Skald, there was no other choice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zH9wHWMi_k

>>51734150

>Seht and Mori
>Being this depressing

Friend please, this is Seht's theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w09sKTkyAOk

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>>51734159
Works better for non-combat situations, but still has that air of romanticism and knightliness, or at least an aspiration to it--right along with the worry that he might never measure up.

Or maybe I'm just talking out of my ass.

>>51734178
It's a melancholic song anon, but not depressing, and Seht is pretty melancholic. Plus the imagery fits perfectly with Seht. Clouds, stars, and Mother (Desna).

An alternative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBU2IJ1Mnjw

>>51734115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxJc_Ka4JG4

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>>51734178

>tfw you're hit with a gout of autism and realize you can easily recreate Shadow of the Colossus with a Shoanti horse archer taking out Thassilonian Rune Giants to empower a waifu-healing compact with some insidious native monster.

>>51731946
>poison sphere
Noice!!
Here's to hoping that it's good!

>>51734225
Luring Cavalier || Avowed (Shadow Pact)

>>51733908
Actually, there's two other parts to that that the "BUT MUH AGAINCOURT" crowd like to "conveniently omit" (in other words they like to lie):

>1) Every video showing ultra-fast archery is at very low draw weights, sometimes not completely drawn, against soft targets at short range.
In other words, it's a self (short) bow being used at maybe half of its actual draw, with the power and penetration requirements kept minimal.

>2) Bows, in particular large longbows, have a rest phase in which the weapon itself completes its motion and returns to its original state
The thing is basically twanging off a whole lot of recoil and needs a moment to recover

>>51734217

Speaking of melancholic, how's this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMk-Nb_viR8

>>51734225
Don't forget the SoM athletics for monster climbing!

>>51734244
>In other words, it's a self (short) bow being used at maybe half of its actual draw, with the power and penetration requirements kept minimal.
That's usually for horse archery, the twanging type of shooting was typical of the mongols.

>The thing is basically twanging off a whole lot of recoil and needs a moment to recover
The rest phase for longbows is not all that long, anon.

>>51734261
It's not all that long UNTIL you start looking at the RoF of a 300lb draw "composite longbow".

Keep in mind the archer build's firing rate per round ends up somewhere around .8s per shot. That's less than a second to nock, draw, aim, loose, and recovery.

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Okay lads, what's the best combination of classes to take if I want to make the best damn equestrian that ever lived?

Gestalt, level 8, 25 Point Buy with full PoW and 3pp support. I'm aiming for a guy that's a consummate horse archer, lancer, jockey, he's practically a centaur.

>>51734261
>>51734261
I think for the horse archery part that was anon's point: If you're putting an arrow through a dragon at 400 yards, that's in no way the same shot as putting a lighter arrow through a pieplate at five yards.

>>51734115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCwCwrVLKlI

Alternate World Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziQPKGEdFHI

>>51734279
Some anon homebrewed an Initiating template for Cavalier and Samurai that allows your horse to do initiating.
May want to look into that

>>51734279
Hawkguard//Ordained Defender Warlord with the Cavalry Inquisition.

>>51734288
Well no shit but a longbow CAN be fired very quickly, that's all I'm saying. Also, the English Longbow is a self bow.

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>>51734307
>Ordained Defender Warlord

>>51734318
You know exactly what I meant you anime fuck.

>>51734318
Maybe it was Auto-correct?

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>>51734115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVrumBAl_iM

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>>51734326

Hawkguard Ordained Defender Warder?

Should I add Hussar?

>>51734347
No. Play a single class game for goddamn once, and HG/OD (Cavalry) is better than Luring Cavalier which is your other horse archery option. Alternatively, Ambush Hunter.

>>51734361
>Play a single class game for goddamn once

That *is* a single class, Hussar's an archetype added to HG/OD Warder.

Had this happen my last session
>party is brought to summer court by a noble they had worked for
>he brought them partially as personal guards and partially as a reward
>the party fighter ends up making a fool of himself
>player says he's just having fun
>ends up propositioning a noble woman he knew was married
>her husband steps in, tells him to step off
>party identify the man, former general married into royalty, know he isn't noble born and started out as a soldier
>fighter doesn't back off
>husband challenges him to a duel
>party now focused on this
>they have the duel in the gardens
>the husband kicks the fighters teeth in, for his impudence (he had tried to grope his wife) he cut off the man's hand
>told him he was letting him off lightly due to the respect he had for the party's employer
>player is pissed
>the noble that employed the party sent them back to his territory the next day
>player gets more pissed

Dear christ he was a retard. Did I go too far though?

>>51734368
>Player does stupid
>Gets outmatched
>Gets angry for doing stupid and being punished
The only thing I can think of for being too far is cutting the hand off since fighters use them more than their brains, but given magic it should be pretty easy to get it back I imagine. His fault for being a shit, though. Just because you were summonsed by a big cheese doesn't mean you can freely do shit.

I'm new to this shit. There seems to be a general opinion that Rogues are shit, but how do Rogueless parties deal with traps?

>>51734398
>The only thing I can think of for being too far is cutting the hand off since fighters use them more than their brains
The husband actually mentioned this and cut off the fighter's non dominant hand.

>>51734402
Unchained Rogues are actually well into decent. If you are willing to try 3pp their initiating archetype is one of the best of the bunch, but even without that they can handle themselves well enough.

Now anyone with perception and disable device can handle normal traps. For magical traps there is a campaign trait in Mummy's Mask that lets you disable them.

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>make a stupid build without thinking too hard about it
>mfw it ends up more competent then builds I spent weeks trying to optimize
>even if I stick limiters on it

fuck

>>51734368
I like it.

>>51734435
Going from martial to caster is a pretty surreal experience yeah.

>>51734435
Sounds like you're able to have more fun now too.

>>51734444
>>51734449
too bad it's going to be stuck in theorycraft hell and never see play like all my other builds

It just feels awful being level 1 and not being able to afford decent armor.

I have a question about Path of War. Does Iron Tortoise make having a shield, if not worth it, at least feel fun to play?

>>51734435
Why is it whenever I see that pic of lelouche, all I can think of is "I FORGOT TO PUT AIRHOLES IN THIS THING!"

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>>51734479

>>51734487
Goddamnit the motherfucking googly eyes always get me.

>>51734487
You cant just shop googly eyes on to everything!

>>51734478
>feels awful being level 1
Welcome to Rusty Knife Shanktown, enjoy your stay and watch out for the cats by the door.

Jokes aside, Iron Tortoise definitely makes shields not something one immediately ignores when they find one. Just take a look at the maneuvers/stances it provides.

>>51734499
I'm pretty sure they can.

>>51734516
I'm ending up likely being a Sword and Board Black Iron Knight focusing in Black Seraph and Iron Tortoise. I may switch out Black Seraph for Primal Fury. I want to be mainly non-magical in how I do maneuvers.

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>>51734499
>>51734498
>>51734530

>>51734115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZNbabKjKpA

Chosen One Paladin!

If you make the save against addiction for a drug do you still take the ability score damage?

Long story short, I've been working on my own setting for awhile now and I'm having a difficult time fitting elves into it without them being cliche in some way. What are some unique or alternate views of Elves that you may have heard or thought of before I could build off of?

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>>51734536

>>51734575
Yep, it still hits you just like normal.

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>>51734597

>>51734610

actually yeah that one's not funny

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>>51734610

>>51734591
Elves that are fae cenobites, they come to world seeking new experiences, new pleasures, new pains and settle in woods of worlds they've discovered.

>>51734591
So how I did my elves was pretty shit, but I'll greentext it:
>elves as a species are a bunch of bitter assholes
>elves are the product of fey nobility and humans, fey nobility essentially unrepentant hedonists no matter the alignment
>most of the first elves were male because fey noble women wouldn't keep the child of a human
>this lead to a bunch of elf hybrid races from the various noble fey varieties
>fey nobles, not liking their bastards running around, kicked them out of their territory
>the archfey, a strange god with numerous personalities that form a council, acknowledge several fey courts
>the elves, being a bunch of bitter assholes, decide they want to be acknowledged
>this is done by amassing second class citizen races
>trolls, hags, halflings, gnomes, humans, many of all of these are brought into the fold
>this if the elven artificial court
>the archfey doesn't give a shit
>elves grow far more buttmad
>the elves go to war against the fey to try and impress the archfey
>the archfey doesn't give a shit
>elves pass from buttmad into booty flustered
>some 600 years ago goblins, who were designed as servants and toys by fey have their specie's souls sold off
>goblins then leave fey territory and begin a mighty conquest
>elves get their shit kicked in by goblinoids who have created their own hero gods
>the elven people's collective ass pain grows into anal evisceration
>goblinoid form weird political structure known as 'the mountain'
>during the campaign the arch fey communicates with the party that it has decided to acknowledge 'the court of the mountain'
>elven kind's asses have transcended to a level of anger unknown to mortals
Elves are unwated bastards who got shit on forever by their forefathers, their god, and then goblins.

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I really, really want to join a gestalt game with a Panoply Savant (Trappings of the Warrior) Occultist// Stalker (Vigilante, Bushi) on the other side. His Abjuration Implement can be a gauntlet shaped like a buckler and his transmutation implement can be a katana his great grandfather forged when in Tian Xia!

In fact, pic-related might be a good start for a Str/Int Stalker//Occultist gestalt!

>>51734651
I might take pieces of this. Making them complete assholes fits in with the rest of the setting. Also toying with giving them a focus on being ADHD as a species, reasoning that they live so long they tend to change trades multiple times so they take up several different practices in their lives. It excuses them for not being Master wizards in a single human generation.

An oafish fat town guard (shield ranger because who wants to be effective at anything) from a tiny village in the middle of nowhere in Ustalav. His great-great-great grandfather slept with an elf at some point, apparently - something he discovers when a ghoul's scratch doesn't paralyze him. It's too bad about his wife, though...

Is there any way for a level 1 character to get full plate besides Rich Parents + Crafting?

I want to get a set early so that I'm not changing out my armor later on. I really want a set to follow me as I level up.

>>51734746

Be an Aegis?

>>51734591
Elves are literally humans settled in an enchanted forest many (human) generations ago. The forest might have a connection to fey or some kind of other primeval forces.

While they are within the forest, they're immortal. If they leave it for extended periods of time, they start aging and can die of old age like any human - perhaps at an accelerated age.

The enchanted place by all means doesn't have to be unique or singular.

Being tied down to one place (aside from a certain amount of elves every generation who leave and die from old age or misfortune) and relying on it for survival makes the elders/leaders isolationist and arrogant.

>>51734698
Link the Panoply Savant?

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>>51734804
Panoplies start on Page 26, Panoply Savant starts on 28 and goes onto 29

>>51734795
Oh that's good

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I've done some back-of-the-envelope calculations for level 8 Embodiment of Aether Self Pact Avowed damage, since it feels to me like it's the class' strongest damage option by a mile.

24 strength, Amulet of Mighty Fists +1, 4 shapes into Aether Channel.
Feats: Embodiment of Aether/Dragon Style/Dragon Ferocity/Empower SLA (Hellfire ACF)/Overcharge Modulation.
Power attack is a net loss in damage.
Assuming that even though the pact attunement works 'as two weapon fighting', you're not halving the aether channel damage because it's the same unarmed attack, but this is debatable.

Total numbers at the bottom.
The average CR8 creature has 21AC and 100hp.
Without dragon ferocity or overcharge modulation, on average you deal slightly under that. With Dragon Ferocity you can just about take it out, and with Overcharge Modulation you knock it well out of the park with average 130 damage.
And that's combined with the fact you can pounce and ignore difficult terrain with a clause.

Does pfg think this is overboard? Or is it okay for a build that invested every single feat into doing as much damage as possible?

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So the end of our last session was kind of weird. Our party (6 characters, level 6) all failed our Will saves to the song of an advanced harpy. The GM said she was only CR 5. Not even my character (aasimar elf paladin) made her save.

The harpy used her move actions to strip us of ALL our stuff, all of it, not a single thing left. Then she stuffed it all in our Handy Haversacks and flew away while still singing.

Now it's night and we're in the dead center of the fey-infested Backar Forest in Molthune. We were supposed to rescue some elven princess/noblewoman who got kidnapped by a tribe of evil advanced pixies and we still don't know where she is.

How screwed are we and what can we do to unscrew ourselves? We're a paladin (me), warpriest, mutation warrior fighter, esquire cavalier, battle host occultist, faceless enforcer vigilante. Yeah, we were kind of doing a "knights in full plate armor" game.

>>51735055
I'd ask what your DM expects you to do.

Since that's a big thing to do 'just because'

>>51735055
Sounds to me like your GM just wants to fuck you over for some reason.

>>51734951
You have what, 4 feats plus Empower SLA from the balefire type? Basically, everything except the free human feat if you were human is going into this.

Your gear is also going into this.

And if you're going for the high attack bonus, that's at least three purchases, but you probably want pounce so that's four shapes (of your 5+1).

Basically, it's like 75% of your entire character that's built on "do more damage". It's not low optimization in the least, and it's using one of the 'weapon' combo types (rampage would be lower by quite a bit I'm betting).

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>>51735108
>>51735112
To be fair, if everyone rolls low on a Will save like that, something really bad SHOULD happen.

You take the Heirloom Weapon trait and choose a sword. The weapon takes all its damage and is destroyed, leaving you a hilt without a blade.

If you use the remains and craft a Masterwork weapon from it with mundane Craft skill, does it qualify for Heirloom Weapon?

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>>51735147
Ship of Theseus.

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>>51735141
>forest of fey
Get Cirno on your side, she's the STRONGEST after all.

>>51735141
Yeah, but the DM should have SOME kind of out.

Just 'Welp dice say you have no gear anymore, tough tiddies' is a bit of a shit move.

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>>51735055
Death is close.

>>51735171
What is that card? Is it real or fake? It's fucking garbage, and you can't even play it unless you get the coin and save it to turn 9.

>>51735197
It's real, and it's C'Thun.

It's one of those cards you have to build your whole deck around because the expansion it came with came with a whole plethora of cards designed specifically to buff it.

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>>51735163
Well what SHOULD have happened, then?

>>51735171
You've never played Hearthstone. The game is shit and cards like that are way better than they deserve to be. For some awful reason the designers decided that players should be included among the targets.

>>51735197
C'thun is real. His gimmick is that the other cards which are his worshippers give him buffs as you play them.

So the idea is, by the time you actually play C'thun, he's been buffed up to like, 15 or more health and attack.

In some cases (Like if they can't get rid of the one that buffs C'thun by 1/1 per turn), he can get completely and utterly out of control, to the point of being a total board clear AND instant KO.

>>51735197
It was released with a bunch of cards with things like
"Battle Cry: C'Thun gains +2/+2....wherever he is"
You have to play a bunch of those to buff his attack power to make his summon as strong as possible.

>>51735124
Well, it's using all your feats, but zero of your clauses.
You're spending one on a modulation to overcharge, and maybe one on Personal Gravity to charge better, but also gives out of combat mobility.

You also get your +7 STR to saves and AC.

+4 str belt is 16000, +1 amulet of mighty fists is 4000. This is only about 65% of your gear, and you don't need to buy armor and your weapon is covered.

And you still have... 3 least clauses and 3 lesser.
You can easily be super puncher and have a lot of other unique niches.

>>51735240
Misquote?

>>51735240
I think it's fine. You're sacrificing a lot of cards to C'thun, he might just end up on the bottom of your deck, and the more cards that buff c'thun, the less cards you have that are doing things to help you RIGHT NOW.

Kinetic Knight is compatible with Roil Dancer.

Just thought to let y'all know

>>51735261
Yes. Whoops.

In pathfinder what does a set of Banded Mail look like?

>>51735288

Like unoptimized SHITTT

>>51735293
It's the best I can afford level 1.

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>>51735288
Well this is apparently what it looks like in Pathfinder Online.

So like this I guess.

I am building my Wrath of the Raunchy character as a man heading north with a big dream of becoming a hero king. What traits associated with leadership are there?

At the moment I am taking the following:
>Bred for War
>Fate's Favored
I need more traits to be a charismatic conqueror. Also a drawback that would fit the image.

>>51735197

...or you could play it on turn 10? What?

>>51735368
I haven't really played Hearthstone but I thought the mana only went to 9?

>>51735274

To be fair, a lot of the cards that buff C'thun are solid cards unto themselves, like the twin emps and the +armor card, and they're all reasonably costed cards that aren't *bad*.

>>51735397

No, it goes to ten. That's why there are a lot of rare cards that cost, well, ten.

>>51735055
Every single one of you failed a DC 18? How shit are your saves?

>>51735415
Half the party has shit Will.

Rolled 1 (1d20)

>>51735415

What should my Strength and Dex look like as a Vigilante using TWF and Lethal Grace?

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>>51733129
So with all the GM tools coming, I look forward to seeing what you guys do with SoM using monsters. Especially if you put in boxing giants.

>>51735422
was this on purpose

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>>51735422
>1

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>Under your new rules, a level 20 fighter and 3 level 18 warriors is CR 20

Now this is podracing

>>51735477
What about a level 20 Wizard?

>>51735225
They come across some dead bandits several miles ahead, and get mediocre gear off them.

Or something kills or hurts the harpy, causing her to drop some or all of the gear. It's a fairy infested forest, plenty of dangerous shit in there.

Retroactively what would a harpy even do with all their shit, do they have an economy or something? I get taking all the shiny things, but literally everything?

>>51735485

Right now the same, might give spellcasters a modifier

All I did was add a CR 2/3 to make the math make more sense and suddenly the game is a lot deadlier

>>51735507

Or at least, humanoid enemies pack more punch for their CR than they did previously.

4x kobold warrior 20 = CR 20

>>51735477
I can make a level 20 fighter far more deadly than any CR 20 monster in the bestiary.

>>51735558
http://pastebin.com/hMmLECRV

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>>51735558
I'm reminded of Eobard Love
http://pastebin.com/KnuKX61H
He gets ridiculous.

>>51735558

OK.

You have:
>Base stats: 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8
>55,000 gp for weapons
>40,000 gp for protection
>44,000 gp magic stuff
>18,000 gp consumables
>2,000 gp misc junk

Have fun

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>>51735422
>>51735449
>>51735464
The harpy has captivated you. How do you describe your character being fascinated?

>>51735558
Make me a Vigilante built around Living Shield.

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>>51735645
That's not fascinating at all.

>>51735625
Do you actually think that is a difficult restriction?

Strength: 15 (base) + 4 (belt) + 6 (greater rage from VMC barbarian) + 8 (grand mutagen) + 6 (strength of the beast) + 6 (power of giants) + 5 (levels) = 50 strength

Constitution: 14 (base) + 6 (greater rage) + 2 (belt) + 4 (strength of giants) + 6 (grand mutagen) = 32

Got that sweet superstition.

Don't need a weapon practically because of WARRIOR SPIRIT

This guy can 1v1 any CR 20 creature easy.

>>51735678
>damage routine (using haste scroll) looks like:
>5d10+305 damage

An unfortunate Balor dies in 1 round in all likelihood because he is very likely to crit on his attack routine.

>>51735613
You have the old version >>51735610 is the stronger version DHB made to appease his own autism.

>>51735739
Even better.

>>51735645
I obviously turn on the rest of the party and spend the rest of my life sexing the harpy.

>>51735610
>>51735613
The fuck is this? Who is Eobard Love?

>>51735645
His eyes go wide and unfocused, and everything around him save the harpy blurs. It's not a fun experience.

>>51735764
DHB's self-inflicted challenge to make the greatest fighter conceivable.

the end result is horrifying.

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>>51735791
You mean a build where 80% of the power comes from level 20 WBL?

Put level 20 WBL on a level 20 commoner and he can pull some crazy shit too.

>>51735848
That's just false though. Strip all the WBL and he, with a stick he found on the ground, could kill a great wyrm.

Is being infertile a thing in this setting? Could a Cleric just do some fancy hand stuff and fix you?

>>51735898
Probably.

>>51735898
pretty sure taking, like, a halberd through the uterus or your nuts cut off is only fixable with a Regeneration spell, which is definitely not a widely available thing.

If you were born unable to produce children, nothing's going to help you without a wish or miracle.

>>51735865
>strick translates to great club
>without his WBL
>uses warrior's spirit to make it a +3 viscious dragon bane great club
>doesn't have haste
>is missing 6 str

we're looking at:
20 (bab) + 16 (str mod) + 4 (weapon training) + 3 (rage) + 7 (great club full bonus) = +50 to hit
2d6 + 24 (strength) + 4 (weapon training) + 3 (rage) + 7 (great club) + 2d6 (bane) + 18 (power attack) = 70 average damage

-6 with power attack
+44/+39/+34/+29

>great wyrm green dragon has 37 AC

So the damage calculation looks like:
.90*2*70+.05*2*2*70+.85*70+.05*2*70+.60*70+.05*70 = 252 average damage per round

This kills a great wyrm green dragon in 2 rounds.

So not quite 1 rounding the dragon while naked with a stick, but that's the kind of power we're looking at without WBL.

>>51735996
But he doesn't have weapon training with clubs.

>>51736006
shit you're right, he would need a sharp stick, an edged stick, if you would

>>51735865
>with a stick he found on the ground, could kill a great wyrm
KNIGHT OF HONOR

>>51733433
>Heavier javelins, such as the Roman pilum, famously could basically make your shield completely useless if it hit right.
This is a myth. Pilums aren't supposed to stick to the shield and make it useless, they're supposed to punch right through it.

>>51736043
Well it's not going to go COMPLETELY through the fucking thing, you still end up with a spear through your goddamn shield.

>>51736043
Pilums were supposed to punch through a shield, but on the case that they failed to they tended to snap midway and render the shield completely useless.

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>>51732255
>mfw

>>51733632
It wouldn't count as "damage spell", but if you use it offensively, Channel Energy DOES count as an attack.

>>51736058
>he only needs to follow the law when it is used for good
That's Neutral Good.

>deserve their justice
Lawful doesn't mean killing people an eye for an eye unless your actual moral code demands it or if the law of the land demands it, and depending on your vision of Good, that could be construed as law that is not used for good.

Basically that last point is fucking bullshit.

How would you feel about realizing that your long time enemy has been drawing powerful from the maggots inhabiting the corpse of a slain deity, and that the maggots themselves were merely manipulating the villain. Up until this point you knew he had dealings with a worm that walks, and that he himself was getting extra juice from somewhere.

How would you feel about a secondary twist that he knew he was being manipulated and was trying to run a con game on the deific maggots?

>>51735610
Hold the fuck up, how's he crafting magic weapons? Isn't he missing Master Craftsman?

>>51736097
Signature Skill (Craft)

>>51736127
That doesn't let you craft magic items under standard or alternate crafting does it?

>>51734746
ask your dm?

>>51736142
It does once you have 20 ranks.

>>51736142
It's the 20 rank skill unlock.

>>51736142
>20 Ranks: You can craft magic armor, magic weapons, magic rings, and wondrous items that fall under your category of Craft using the normal Craft rules.

>>51736157
>>51736161
>>51736169
Oh, okay. Disregard me then, I'm an idiot.

>>51735323
>Pathfinder Online
That's still a thing?

>>51735966
>Regeneration spell
Speaking of, is there a limit to the wounds it regenerates?
Like, something from 5 years ago?

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>>51736092

>>51736227
There doesn't appear to be; if you lost that leg twenty years ago in the war or whatever, Regenerate will still give it back to you.

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>>51736347

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here's my character, story + sheet

... yes, I know
... yes, that's what I was going for
... no, I'm not a racist
... it's just for fluff and fun

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>>51736559
>... yes, I know
Do you really?

>... yes, that's what I was going for
Of course you were.

>... no, I'm not a racist
Of course, of course.
Fucking racist.

>... it's just for fluff and fun
Of course it is.

>>51736580
I didn't even read it and I was thinking about posting basically this. Did you read it?

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>>51736592
Of course not.

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Lorewipe-anon here again. I think I managed to figure out a system to handle who gets downtime and when.

Can Warpriest get by with 16 Wis?