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/hhg/ aka Horus Heresy General Infurno edition

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Rolled 14 (1d20)

I fell into a burning ring of fire
I went down, down, down
And the flames went higher
And it burns, burns, burns
The ring of fire
The ring of fire
Subedition
>>51534158

>HHG
http://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8
Official HH 7th Edition Errata (Updated January 2016)
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Horus_Heresy_7th_Edition.pdf

>30k TACTICA & TIPS
What to include in a HH list, how to format it, what makes each legion special (crunch), tactics, Tutorials for Heresy-era minis and more
http://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLp

>HH Books, Novels and Rulebooks galore
http://pastebin.com/k9uvqsub
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmega.nz%2F%23F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyC

>Updated rulebooks
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.docdroid.net%2Ffz1OuHK%2Fcrusade-imperialis-army-lists.pdf.html
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.docdroid.net%2FZTK72gs%2Flegiones-astartes-age-of-darkness-army-list.pdf.html

>/HHG/'s Legion demographics
http://www.strawpoll.me/10558764
>Primarch Popularity Poll
http://www.strawpoll.me/11458318

>Make your unit entries
http://www.mediafire.com/file/q315zmyjntb4j04/LA+Exploitable+v1.pdf

>BoP's Paint guide
http://imgur.com/a/aBKJE

>HH Discord
https://discord.gg/wYS2J6b
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Reposting the greatest space wolf killer of all time.
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>>51542751
First for Alpharius
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Third for the Dark Mechanicum, returning 40k mathhammer champions.
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>>51542751
Thanks a lot, Uni.
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First for big ass bolters
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>>51542816
Those guys are heavy support also.
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>>51542805
Is he /ourguy/?
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>>51542812
Reposting. Anon from the last thread was right about this guy looking like a NASCAR driver.
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>>51542812
You aren't that one anon with trip-sense are you?
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Valador is not impressed
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>>51542805
>Police that mustache legionnaire!
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>>51542833
He kills space wolves and doesn't deface his armor. Of course he is ourguy
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>>51542833
>field police
>terran veteran
>kills space wolfs who go into over wolf
yeah
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> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>51542837
Wait, THAT'S what he looks like?
He looks like a Series of Unfortunate Events character.
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>>51542834
I see someone watched Aliens vs Predator and liked it enough to make a belt buckle
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>>51542816
I was hoping for plain stahlhelms with spikes and mouth grills like in old art. The decorations are a bit too much. Have to wait for proper shots before passing final judgement.
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>>51542837
>Voldemort was a Custodite all along
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>>51542881
>does this unit have a soul?
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>>51542805
RT references everybody.
>>51542835
I have made so many breads and that KE generator that the Man Emperor gave me trip sense.
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>>51542881
Hell yes, robots proving their glorious superiority and best Knights doing work. I need to hurry up and paint my House Malinax knight.
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>>51542913
Yes.
It'll have yours.
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One thing I know for shure. I dont give a damn about plastic Gulliman or Cypher from early today.
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>>51542837
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>>51542881
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>>51542837
I think I like his older art better, but that's a perfect reaction image.
>>51542870
?
>>51542881
Nice.
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>>51542929
I'll just paint some random knotwork on myself and it won't do shit. Like this guy
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>>51542881
All of my yes.
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http://pastebin.com/BMyYKAWQ
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>>51542958
In one of those movies the predator uses a similar symbol.
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>>51542967
That would work, I guess !
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Give us Talons of Emperor.
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>>51542916
And this >>51542834 1k sons "M" >>51542896
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also repostan the new moriat model
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>>51542834
>>51542958
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Fulgrim:
>Rekt 2 primarch i CC
>shitty weapon and WS 8
Russ
>get beaten by EVERYONE
>WS9 superweapons
WTF FW?
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>>51542988
Thanks for this.
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>>51542988
Wow that's some special snowflake rules.
>-1 HQ for every thousand points
>Wolves can't be taken in 3k+
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>>51543020
That bolt pistol looks familiar.
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>>51543049
>shitty weapon
I thought if he used Fireblade it was fine, only Laer was shit?
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Krole
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>>51543080
Is she eldar?
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That's me for awhile. Dinner time.
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>>51543068
it's the rumor engine one
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>>51543080

womans a bloody psykers worst nightmare
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If possible, is there any pictures of Adeptus Custodes Terminators or their rules?

Thanks in advance and for all the pictures being posted in the thread.
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>>51542988
>Ammitara occult intercession cabal
>super scouts with access to melta and plasma guns
>brotherhood (lv1) with their own special power which gives rerolls to hit and wound, plus ignores cover

Holy shit, ignores cover plasma guns. Bad luck mor deythan and headhunters, there's a new hotness in town.
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>>51543049
>he's not aware that the design studio has love russ and the space wolves since time immemorial.
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>>51543080
Sexy
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>>51542989
>>51543023
I was thinking about it but now I can see it.
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>>51542988
OK, Spess Wolf specials don't affect the mathhammer for duelling at all, assuming that Howl of the Whatever is the reroll charges thing. Scoria keeps it.

>>51543051
Hah. They need to have an allied detatchment of wolves for 3-4k, 4k+ they can't actually be played. That's getting errata'd if the wording doesnt fix it.

>>51543079
Still comparatively shit, especially compared to all the BS that his brothers are packing.

So I guess we've proved that savage, uncoordinated and overly impetuous assault is superior to finesse, tactics and skill? Speaking as a Mechanicum player and fan of the EC (don't play them, but it'd be a toss-up between them and IH if I decided to Legion it up.) that's bullshit.
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I fucking said a Warden style Custodes would look good. Marked in black to send the Emperors personal displeasure.
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>>51543143
And then voila.
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>>51543143
why purple, red would look better
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>>51542835
Not trip but grammar style gives away much
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>>51543142
Howl is going to be the big psychic howl attack.
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Why are people posting 40k stuff in a Heresy thread?
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>>51543143
It would if it was actually painted well.
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Also, Agents of the Warmaster confirmed. Finally, my Mechanicum gets that bullshit too.
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>>51543215
Because it triggers elitists. Both of them exist in the heresy anyways.
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>>51543049
>>Rekt 2 primarch i CC
1
Girlyman's back. Was just a flesh wound
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>>51543023
It's on the Blackshield ashen claw as well in book 5. Strange..
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>>51543215
You mean? >>51543109
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>>51543244
He may be part robot now though
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>>51543242
Ah, trying to get some response from the resin supremacists. I see.

Apologies for this picture list post. I will assign myself 2 days in the pain glove for this transgression.
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>>51543244
He is still dying. Just some 10k old magos made for him life support machine.
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>>51543125
Awesome!
AND we finally get good looking scout models to boot!
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>>51543244
Yeah, only took him ten thousand years to recover.

He basically walked it off.
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>>51543261
No, that was me. That stuff is source for the M on the pre-primarch marine I posted.

5 days in the pain glove now.
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>>51543276
That is kinda awesome.
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>>51543170
I went for a black and purple praetorian look like the praetorian guard in Ancient Rome.
>>51543217
It's only basecoated. I pussied out and stripped it, and repainted it normal gold.
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>>51543180
>Howl is going to be the big psychic howl attack.
OK then, good. If Russ gets Howl or his wolf pets Scoria gets to call in some RoTB homonculex or Vorax, so cool.
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>>51542988
>your only legal Troop choice without an RoW is Grey Slayers
>SW can't make under 1000pts. or over 3000pts. armies

I hope these are just badly referenced.
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> Turns out Ben Kingsley was only playing Ahriman over the Vox
> Real Ahriman is actually Guy Pearce
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HQ: Legio Custodes Shield Captain
HQ: Sisters of Silence Oblivion Knight-Centura
HQ: Sisters of Silence Excruciatus Cadre
HQ: Constantin Valdor
HQ: Jenetia Krole
Elites: Legio Custodes Hetaeren Guard Squad
Elites: Legio Custodes Aquilon Terminator Squad
Elites: Legio Custodes Contemptor-Achillus Dreadnought
Elites: Sisters of Silence Oblivion Knight Cadre
Troops: Legio Custodes Custodian Guard Squad
Troops: Legio Custodes Sentinel Guard Squad
Troops: Sisters of Silence Prosecutor Cadre
Troops: Sisters of Silence Vigilator Cadre
Dedicated Transport: Legio Custodes Coronus Grav-Carrier
Dedicated Transport: Sisters of Silence Kharon Pattern Acquistor
Fast Attack: Sisters of Silence Pursuer Cadre
Fast Attack: Legio Custodes Agmatus Jetbike Squadron
Fast Attack: Legio Custodes Pallas Grav-Attack Squadron
Heavy Support: Sisters of Silence Seeker Cadre
Heavy Support: Legio Custodes Sagittarum Guard Squad
Heavy Support: Legio Custodes Caladius Grav-Tank
Heavy Support: Legio Custodes Contemptor-Galatus Dreadnought
Lords of War: Warlord-Sinister Pattern Battle Psi-Titan
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Valdor rules
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But are guardian spears still shit?
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>>51543339
Are sentinels and custodians the same as what we have?
Also, shield captain rules please.
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>>51543353
I want to get Valdor, paint him red and white, cast Invisibility on him and play a game of Where's Valdor?
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>>51543353
What the fuck.

Valdor needed to be able to beat Horus in single combat. Fuck everything
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You don't happen to have those Vultarax rules, do you Scanon?
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>>51543339
Thank you, that what I hoping to see. Can't wait to see the new models.
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>>51543353
Can he fight Sigismund?
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>>51543353
>eternal warrior
thank fuck
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>>51543398
> edgy teenager horus
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>>51543339
>Lords of War: Warlord-Sinister Pattern Battle Psi-Titan

Wew lads
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>>51543467
Posted last thread. Well, partially.
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>>51543484
Didn't it all get posted?
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Any pics of the SW unit entries and wargear options ? I'd love to know how to inlcude Fenrisian Wolves with my characters.
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>>51543519
No this Anon already declared he wouldn't go that far.

Doesn't believe in it.
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Bolter Custodes rules?
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>>51543502
So most games LoW can't go over 25% of your total points limit.

Time for some 12,000 point games lads.
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>>51543555
or a game with a Leviathan Detachment.
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>>51543374
Yes.
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>>51543502
>Sinistramanus Tenebrae

>Left Hand of Shadow
Wow, FW, really doing good with the fancy names here. To be fair it sounds much better in Latin.

>>51543555
13,000, actually.

Starting to think that Leviathan thing is a bit much, but at least it lets me do that crazy Stormbird idea without playing 4k+.
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>>51543566
>put a blank in a warlord
>throw it at Magnus and 2750 points of his most powerful psykers
What could go wrong?
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>>51543049
Wolf wolf for the wolf wolf always wins because special furry snowflake legion
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>>51543603
The "Left Hand of Darkness" fires once and a chunk of them are just gone...

Its rules are listed here >>51541722
it's quite lethal.
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>>51543049
Russ just always rolled 1 in chalenges.
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>>51543628
Yes, yes he does.
What are you going to do about it?
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>>51543682
Get employed in FW and write new primarchs rules.
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Legit curious how easily Russ can beat non/fully nailed Angron
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>>51543628
Contain your butthurt. It's just a game.
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>>51543334
can make under 1k, just need a praetor and 2 grey slayer units judging by the wording.
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>>51543628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urcqQC02YbY
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what about background section?
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>>51542837
>remove traitor
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>>51543707
We still don't know Magnus's stats, a fully biomancied up Magnus (+3 S, T, I, A; 4+ FNP) may be able to put up a decent fight. Obviously, he's fucked if he can't get all those powers off though.
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>>51543339
> no assassins
lolwut?
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>>51543192
gross thumb dude
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>>51543741
But a praetor needs at least 1000pts. to be fielded. That's the whole point of the Delegatus, as it allows you to take a RoW at under 1000pts.
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>>51543721
>>51543742
I wonder who's behind this post
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>>51543774
Custodes own termies Fuck yea.
Here some custodes grav-chimera
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>>51543774
>75ppm
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>>51543791
fucking furries. And you too
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>>51543774
>Solarite power gauntlet
Now hang on one minute.
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So after going through spell list, Magnus probably wants to roll on Telekinesis, Biomancy and Pyromancy, picking Primaris if you get something you don't want.

For example, Telekinesis gives you 36" S8+2d6 AP1 Beam at WC 3, so this is almost always better than Gaze of Magnus.
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>>51543790
right, it's 3am here and I'm tired as fuck, carry on
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>>51543791
>>51543805
I play Militia, just here to laugh at Marinefags competing who has the biggest primarch penis.
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For the guys wondering about the Saggitarum Custodes - their guns are dual profile: Heavy Bolters and Disintegration Beam (12" Assault 1, Instant Death, Armourbane, Gets Hot). You can fire the Disintegration Beam as many times as you like, but the squad must fire all the same...
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>>51543796
neat
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>>51543823
>For example, Telekinesis gives you 36" S8+2d6 AP1 Beam at WC 3, so this is almost always better than Gaze of Magnus.

Meant to say that this is Primaris. You will always get this.
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>>51543774
Why aren't those Very Bulky?

At least now we know the grav-tank holds 12. So my plan of putting a Custodes character with 5 custodes into one will work.
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>>51543337
>Real Ahriman is actually Guy Pearce

the fuck are you talking about? That's the most Kingsley Kingsley that ever Kingsley'd.
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>>51543774
I have been waiting for this since I was thirteen holy shit.
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>>51543860
I take it you haven't watched Ironman 3.
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>>51543399

There is no Scanon, only the blessed phonepost leakers.
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>>51543885
Blessed be the phoneposters!
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>>51543823
You're really aiming for the high shot count witchfires instead of high S for them sweet potential D hits, but a beam works well on bunched up enemies.
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>>51543885
Wish they had just used all these images to post rules.
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>>51543860
So was the mandarin
boy did that work out well
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>>51543774
So wargear rules please? Also Shield captain?
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Soo, about those Custodes rules....
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So I guess these things can carry ten custodians plus a driver
...how?
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>>51543914
I have what I have.

Teleportation Transponders just grant Deep Strike (nice to have on the cheap). Arae-Shrikes are a bit different and have two effects. Enemy models attempting to Deep Strike within 12" must roll a D6 before they determine the result of the Deep Strike - on a 4+ they suffer a Mishap (and this happens for all models, even those that can't Mishap). Plus any unit with a model with a Arae-Shrike targeted by a Barrage weapon, the attacking player must add another D6 to their scatter roll and pick the highest two results. A Hit remains a Hit however.
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>>51543897
Telekinesis also has assured D AP1 Large Blast. Plus 18" Assault 2d6 Nova if anyone tries to get anywhere near you.
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>>51543828
Primarchs don't have male appendages.
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>>51543920
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING
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>>51543920
You missed a U on the purity seal on his chest.
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>>51543907
>>51543884
Oh you fuckers.
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>>51543944
No, they're male appendages themselves. And anons are whipping them out and measuring them to see who has the biggest stats.
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>>51543933
They lie down in a big fuck-pile and look at a poster of the emperor stuck to the ceiling while they jerk each other off.
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>>51543933
>a razorback can carry 5
>a rhino can carry 10
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>>51543936
Blood Angels BTFO to a degree never before seen on this earth.
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>>51543984

>bulky
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>>51543853
Ill probably take this then roll the other 4 on biomancy or divination

if i feel like an asshole ill go for invisibility
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>>51543933
In the same way a Rhino can carry 10 Space Marines plus a driver.

No transport is to scale,not even close.
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>>51544005
I was more so pointing to how HEROIC the scale is
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For the guys wondering about the Saggitarum Custodes - their guns are dual profile: Heavy Bolters and Disintegration Beam (12" Assault 1, Instant Death, Armourbane, Gets Hot). You can fire the Disintegration Beam as many times as you like, but the squad must fire all the same...
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>>51543940
Don't think it works on novas, unless they're types of witchfire, not too hot on the psychic powers minutae.

>>51543828

Mechanicum here, we don't even have to try :)

Well, I play Reductor, so short of allies shenanigans I can't, so I will join you in the "Screw You and Your Primarchs" room, guarded by 100 Zealot Rending Cultists, 3 grav-myrmidons and Scoria as the bouncer.
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>>51544025

Where were you when FW went full GW
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5QWb9Bt6zs

If we get Girlyman for McRage, Cypher for Caliban, Draigo(?) for Titan, and they tease us with Terra, who would represent Terra?

>inb4 >>51543920
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>Instant Death
>Multiple Use

Well, there's where literally every big gun in my list is pointing. Good thing the rest of the Custodes are fairly weak to battle-automata and such.
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>>51544026
Silly Reductor, Scoria doesn't hang out in your gay club. He chills with his bloops in the Cybernetica.
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Their Aquilon Terminator Armour is based on Cataphractii Terminator Armour that has been "redesigned by the mind of the Emperor Himself for His elite forces"... yeah...

Aquilon pattern Terminator Armour is 2+ / 4++ and has Hammer of Wrath. Models in this armour can fire Heavy and Salvo weapons, counting as stationary, even if they have moved in the movement phase. They may also charge after firing Rapid Fire, Heavy or Salvo weapons. They can't Run, but they can make Sweeping Advances and fire Overwatch.
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>>51544040
It's an OC grey knight grandmaster.
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>>51544025
>disintegration weapons coming into 30k
I love it

mainly because I love saying disintegration
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Weapon wise, standard armament is a Lastrum Storm Bolter (24", S:5 AP:4 Assault 2, Heliothermic Detonation) and a Solarite Gauntlet (S:x2 AP:1, Master Crafted, Unwieldy). Solarite Gauntlet can go to a Solarite Talons (S:+1, AP:3,Shred Specialist Weapon, Master Crafted). Storm Bolter can be swapped for TL Adrathic Destructor (12", S:5, AP:2, Assault 1, Instant Death, Armourbane, Gets Hot) or a Infernus Firepike (Template, S:6, SP:6, Heavy 1, Torrent)

Oh, by the way, Heliothermic Detonation on the Lastrum, if a model takes an unsaved wound and is not killed must take an immediate Toughness test or suffer Instant Death. Vehicles suffering a Penetrating Hit add 1 to the result on the damage table.
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>>51543936
sooooo, about that RG recon company.....
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>>51544006
You can always get Smite(WC3, 36" S5+2d6, AP2 Assault 4) as well.

Honestly, you probably want to just get bunch of witchfires and just murder everything.

Like, get that 5WC 24" D Large Blast and make units not exist anymore.
>>51544026
It's under the witchfire i think.
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>>51544047
Buffed cataphracii
nice
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>>51544054
No disintegrations!
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>>51543920
The squatting legs ruins the entire model for me.
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>>51544045
I play both, technically, but mostly Reductor because giving everyone a jump pack and deepstriking everything into ruins is fun. Cybernetica are for holding the line till everyone else gets there.

Scoria essentially owns the club, Reductor are just a small group of regulars who hang out in one particular room, given they have no fluff aside from Decima.
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>>51543920
that is actually scary fucking close to the classic image of the emps. Dual kit?
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>>51544073
If those heavy weapons are for every model then holy fuck, 3 "Now even heavier" Flamers with Torrent zipping about in their floaty car sounds awesome.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12262274/r
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>>51544075
>roll 6 on 2d6
>hit all 4 on 2+

So anons, how good are your Primarchs at dealing with 4 D hits?
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>>51543920
Change this black legion champion.
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>>51544073
What the balls.

Entire squad of S6 torrent? With power fists? Looks like my Myrmidons have competition, although they're so pricy it's not much of that.

This is shaping up to be a proper elite army, not much there aside from melee, but what they have is damn shiny.
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>>51544075
Roll on Santic and add 2d6 S to cleansing flame.
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>>51542816
OH SHIT!
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Wait I just reread Magnus' Aura ability, it's a flat -1 to hit him and his unit; not -1 to Ballistic Skill which snap shots would ignore, so you roll a 6-1 for a 5 and miss. Take invisibility and you can't be shot? Good game FW. Optimally you'd fish for invisibility with the rest of your army before Magnus, then if you get it on someone else, fish for the best power to turn into S:D.
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>>51544165
>every legion has its proper name
>except the fucking snowflake yiffs
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>>51544220
It cant be made worst than a 6+ to hit
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>>51544206
Problem with Santic that it has bunch of powers you don't care about.

Telekinesis, Biomancy and even Pyromancy allow you to fall back on Primaris that is excelent nuke with your buffs. Bloody Smite can just murder a Primarch with ease.
>>51544220
You ignore LoS and most of your powers are 36". You can sit behind the cliff and not get attacked all game long. You don't even need Invisibility, especially since Telepathy has bunch of powers that are wasted with Magnus.

Better have someone else roll Invis.
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>>51544220
>be fw
>spend 4 times as long making a book as any other
>make one primarch who can take 3-4 of any other, and one that can't shot at and pumps out S:D novas
By the Emperor.
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>>51544234
Vlka Fenryka is the proper name.
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>>51544220
You literally can't get worse than a 6 to hit, just as you can't get better than a 2 to hit except for circumstances where automatic hits are specifically mentioned, like with vehicles.
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>>51543774
"The first pattern developed was what (was) known as aquilon" SATURINE PATTERN NEVER.
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>>51544276
Yeah, nah, fuck off m8.
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>>51544234
Were the Space Sharks known as Carcharodons before FW?
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>>51544040
Dorn, Lord Inquisitor and the Master of Assassins.
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>>51544309
No
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>>51544242
>>51544281
Thats not a rule.

And its not worse than a 6, as in its a 7, that would be PLUS 1 to hit, not minus one.

-1 to a 6 is a 5, snap shots only hit on a 6
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>>51543810
?
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>>51544292
Ah, another shitposter trying to pour scorn on the greatest and most loyal legion of all.
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>>51544332
Solarite power gauntlets are Fist wargear.
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>>51543353
I'm betting the spears gonna be AP1
kinda like Alpharius's
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>>51544073
so what you're saying is that they're better then justaerins in stats, and are armed with either IF unique fists or ravens talons. great FW - time to stomp on all the legion unique things and give them to the talons of the emprah. really curious about the seeker sister of silence though.
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>>51544375
Ravens talons have rending, not +1S
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>>51544365
one rumor is I have seen is that the spear causes instant death on a 4+ to wound.
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How do we have random pictures and illustrations but not all the rules? Phoneanons why do you hurt us so?
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>>51544393
Causes ID on 4+ and auto pens on 4+ as well if it's an AV. Also successful invulns must be rerolled.
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>>51544408
It's not phoneanons, the pics are taken from B&C or somewhere.
Someone missed this one.
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>>51542837
>>51542861
He looks similar to how I imagined him.

I thought if he didn't look how Sigismund apparently looks (Tony Soprano), he'd look like a cross between Guilliman and a stereotypical Gopnik.
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>>51544259
Magnus can't be hit by shooting attacks or in CC if he's invisible, he can take on literally anything in the game and win.
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>>51544365
>>51544393
>>51544412

This spear?
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>>51544468
Good thing a Warlord titan doesn't have to target a unit, it can just drop blasts onto the table.
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My Penis is so hard right now.

Or it would be, if I could even crack a boner,
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>>51544495
>things that no one can take to a normal game
Magnus+Invis is an auto-win
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>>51544464
I thought it was in the last thread.
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>>51544492
No, one that's actual legible.
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>>51544510
Given where we are, I give equal chance between female and paralyzed/handicapped from the waist down.
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>>51544464
Cool.
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>>51544510
Neat.
>that spoiler
>mfw
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>>51544542

Erectile Dysfunction.
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>>51544526

That's the only picture of it on the internet right now
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>>51543020
100% converting him into Death Guard. Won't even be difficult. File off the sword icon. Replace that pistol with a scythe or hammer.
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>>51542952
WHO WANTS

TO LIVE

FOREVER?
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>>51543080
You can suck the soul right out of me, bby.
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>>51544526
Go go gadget eyestrain!
>Spear: S +1/+2 (depending on charge), AP2 (always!), 6s to hit cause extra attacks, to wound roll of 4+ causes instant death/automatic penetrating hit*, successful invulnerable saves must be rerolled
>Gun: 18" S5 AP2 Assault 2 Concussive
>Warlord trait: reroll Seize rolls, all custodes can take teleport transponders for no extra points

*Not that you make to wound rolls against vehicles of course, but forgeworld gonna forgeworld.
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>>51544510
>the dreams of humanity have ever been the darkest things in all creation
the best things about these books are always the little quotes
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>>51544492
TELEPORTATION TRANSPONDER ON ALL CUSTODES?!
*explodes in a huge column of jizz*
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>>51544073
>>51544073
>Lastrum Storm Bolter
Storm Bolters?
In my Warhammer 30k, The Horus Heresy!??

fucking fw REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>51544178
I know for a fact that Fulgrim can easily deal with 3 D's

>>51544467
He does look like a gopnik though

>>51544510
>Those greasy fingerstains on the page.
Disgusting

Also, kek this guy can't get his dick hard.
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>>51544284
Book 8 as an Imperial Fists special unit with all heavy weapons and 3++
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>>51544750
Et tu Fulgrim
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>>51544750
what year is it
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>>51544750
BOREALUM
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>>51544750

I need to take the most massive crap.
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>>51544750
the codex astartes were a mistake
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>>51544726
>I know for a fact that Fulgrim can easily deal with 3 D's

Cheeky.
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>>51544750
ten thousand years will give you such a crick in the neck
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>>51543602
Hand of Night
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>>51544750
'I can't believe I ate the whole thing.'
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>>51544750
Hydra Dominatus
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Oh forgeworld.
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>>51544817
>>51544750
I think I'm blind...
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>>51544090
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>>51544750
>"Please tell me someone returned the Codex Astartes to the Macragge Library. I can't pay fines like that."
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>>51544890
>GuyFierious pattern Warlord Titan.

The heresy has gone too far...
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>>51544890
>>51544936
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>>51542751
I have a large (3500+) point Taghmata army, but 30/40k isn't fun anymore for me.

What's the best way to sell it?
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>>51544890
The second is alright as you could pass that off as Prospero civilians trying to hide but the first looks like Gabe Newell and his twin brother.

The two great twin ancestors of Gabe Newell known as Gabus Newellus.
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>>51544985
How can mutes "take charge" and organize a failing defense?
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>>51544750
>get this out of my mouth
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>>51544890
Alpharius & Omegon?
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>>51545010
>what is sign language

you'd be surprised how little you can achieve by shouting in the middle of explosions
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>>51544985
Cuuuuuuuute! <3
Gonna paint my sisters in that cold metallic and blue scheme for sure.

>>51544997
Nigga, don't you see we're doing Inferno here? Nobody cares about your question at the moment, please try again later.
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>>51545010
They have interlocutors (members that haven't taken their vows of silence) specifically for speaking with outsiders.
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>>51545044
Right, but how would generic army mooks know the super special silent sisterhood's sign language?

>>51545056
oh, okay
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>>51542988
What magnus stats man
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did the space wolf rules get leaked?
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>>51545056
>>51545010
>>51544985

the one literally named in that piece is called Quilp
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>>51544375
>custodes
>75ppm
>WAAAAAAH THEY ARE BETTER THAN MY MARINES WAAAAAH
really i shoudnt be surprised at this point
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>All of these random fluff pages

POST THE RURUS YOU FUCK
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>>51544159
>90 points per model
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>>51542816
Looks like some kind of combi-weapon.
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>>51544375
my 20 man inductii blobs will still rape anything, kek.
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>>51544330
Actually, that applies to Leman Russ' armour as well. He literally can't be hit by units with WS4 after the first round of combat.

>WS4 vs. WS9 so 5+ to hit
>brain freeze armour gives you -2 to hit
>a roll of 6 becomes a 4 and misses

Great rules you got there FW, very balanced
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>>51543772
i am guessing he will be daemon magnus-1 IE str 7, everything else 6.
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>>51545099
They have disintegration weapons built in. Rules were posted further up.
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>>51545098
Eh, they're basically slightly tougher, slightly punchier and less shooty Myrmidon Destructors, seem decent, and they don't have EW, so they're going to be first target for all the Vindicators that cost less that two of them.
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>>51545123
Thanks. I just arrived and have to cath up to 300 psts.
>>51542834
>>51543250
This former TS one?
>>51542916
Generator anon!
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How the fuck does a dreadclaw fly in-atmosphere?
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>>51544165
> 4 RG
> 0 IW
> /hhg/
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>Gw leaks Guilliman the same day as the weekender to siphon hype away from HH

How petty can they get
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>>51545185
It's got rocket engines and anti-grav.
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>>51545172
I've tried to compile most of them here - http://imgur.com/a/iBIRP
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>>51545209
It's almost like they're good at keeping quiet or something.
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>>51545134
The 2+/4+ is fuckign baller, but i dotn think 3 torrent ap6 heavy flamers are really worth it. i guess they are str 10(!) ap 1 in CC, but 270 points for 3....esh
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>>51545218
Have faith, Word Bearer.
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>>51545218
>FW pushed the release of Inferno to siphon hype from GW

FTFY
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>>51545224
Thanks m8
>>51545226
We're busy catching up. Srsly, I'm eating just near my laptop now.
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>>51545053
Got it, dumpster it is.
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Mathhammer Russ versus other primarchs when?
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>>51545265
I just love their mutual bickering
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>>51545209
Looks like things are changing.
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>>51545116
got you covered, pal
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So, will the new cartoon guilliman see a lot of use in 30k you think?
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>>51545280
he beats all of them, even horus. fuck math hammer its just obvious.
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>>51545280
I'd do it if I knew how to mathhammer
Anyone know a giude on it or some shit
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>>51545306
undoubtedly
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>>51545305
I was right! sweet sweet vindication!Cheeers buddy
>>51545306
40k one looks SIGNIFICANTLY better with the helm.

30k one still wins though
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So, Valdor beats Sigismund in a fight, right? They both have eternal warrior, iron halos, and the ability to force the other to reroll successful invulnerable saves, but Valdor just has a better statline.

>>51545224
You are a gentleman and a scholar.
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>>51543051
>>51543142
Given the many other typos, we can assume
>must take at less 1HQ for each 1,000pts
translates to;
=must take at least 1 HQ for each 1000pts

>(1,500pts etc must take 2)
confirms this. 1 HQ at 1000pts or under, 2 HQs at 1001-2000, 3 at >2000 etc.
/hhg/ aka Reading Comprehension General
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>>51545306
yes and it will piss off everybody
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>>51545193
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>>51545308
Use fraqtions.
I'd do it...but I'm having lunch. Srsly why did it have to be released at the time I could least keep up while not having the mercy of being asleep.
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>>51545172
>obscured heraldry
doesn't match either of his actual pauldrons, the chain and hooks notwithstanding

one of which is likely BA or DA (leaning toward BA because of the red coloration, but could be either), the other of which is the seahorse from the Blackshields transfer sheet

his knee displays the simplified Eye of Horus (which is normal because the Aquila on his belt has been deliberately defaced, but is at odds with his right forearm and helm displaying the olive-green of the Sons of Horus beneath the black, and the topknot common to that legion); the runes applied over the black on his right pauldron, chest and arm may be Chthonian in origin, but i doubt it

he's also bearing a Raven Guard token on his left hip, and his pauldrons, arms, and legs are all from different marks of armour; his jump pack i could probably tell you more about with a little work, but i'd guess it's Iron Warriors in origin

in fact i'm pretty sure the text that accompanies this image specifically goes out of its way to explain that some Blackshield groups deliberately went to great lengths to obscure their origins
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>>51545305
So with Iron Arm and Warp Speed he's S10, T9, I9, A7 (with an AP1 weapon). Not bad, he might stand a chance against other primarchs.
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>>51545305
>Nerd has a higher strength than the Wolf-jock
kek
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>>51545307
Even Magnus and Lorgar with psychic powers?
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I know we're having an inferno-gasm at the minute, but did rules ever get released for the cataphractii medicae that got released a few weeks ago? I really cant tell what weapons he's supposed to have.

Also they still had UM heralds at my local shop when I went in a few days ago. Jesus that model is ugly.
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>>51545193
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>>51545056
Must be weird being a Sister of Silence who's job is to not be silent.
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>>51545280
Short Form - He Wins. Scoria barely downs him, and I mean barely, like 0.08 of a wound makes the damn difference. Coin flip, that fight.

Against anyone else, he wins. That armour is so OP it's not even funny, the only reason Horus could stand up to Scoria at all (Even though he loses eventually) was Disabling Strike, the Armour Elevegar neuters that well.

>>51545308

Take starting stuff. Multiply by fractions of d6, so

Scoria hitting Russ, round 1.

4 attacks, hitting on 5s so 1/3 (or 2/6 if it's easier to visualise)
4*2/6

Wounding twice (average of 1d3 is 2), so x2
Invuln 4++, so

4*2/6*2*1/2

= wounds, in this case 1.3333
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>>51545306
Srsly, he looks more like a Thousand Sons Guilliman than like an Ultramarine.
He looks chaosy.
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>>51545369
Lorgar isn that killy, even with powers
Magnus is a different story

>>51545362
>hits wolfman on 5's first round, 6's second
>wolfmen wounds on 6's
is close
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>>51545365
>known as a giant
>surprising he's strong

Literally who?
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>>51545376
They're in the Legion Army List book. He's basically a Primus Medicae in terminator armour. He might have grenades but that's about it.
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>>51545382
It is literally awkward as fuck, read the short story about them.
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>>51545369
yeah probably. idk what magnus has but hed rape lorgar with invis, since he basically has invis on himself anyway and is actually good at killing shit, unlike lorgar.

glad i play SW, because id be pissed if i had to fight him
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>>51545337
Yeah, so if that's RAW they need 4 HQ's at higher than 3k points.

Odds are it's not, but funny to visualise.
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>>51545327
Imagine the 30k gulliman

with the 40k helmet

best guilliman right there folks
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>>51544997
Facebook groups. Whichever one is closest/most sensible for you.

Some ballbags will give you lowball offers, but if you're not desperate or willing to split, you'll get the majority back.
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>>51545280
>>51545307
>>51545383
>Against anyone else, he wins
Unless its invis Magnus, of whom Russ can not even hit. So Magnus takes his time killing Russ.
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>>51545376
>I really cant tell what weapons he's supposed to have.

The needle pistol.
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>>51545362
You know he could just throw fuckton Ds at them from the other side of the table and kill them in single turn, right?
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>>51545193
BUENO
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>>51545193
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>>51545407
Eh, doesn't sound too good, no matter I bought him for the model anyway
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>>51545464
That's the good stuff right there.
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>>51545444
Shit thats a needle pistol? for some reason I just imagined it as a syringe with a trigger
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>>51545306
>not just using him a 20ft tall sigismund model
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>>51545464
Warlord Titans are smaller than I imagined.
Also, Reaver to c3, I guess. :)
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I'm itching on pics of the 1ksons unit sheets. I really want to know points.
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>>51545305
Do we have his special rules?
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>>51545306
Roman looking FW one is clearly superior even if it has weird proportions.
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>>51545443
why couldnt he hit them? wouldnt it just be on 6's?
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>>51545306
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>>51542834
Reposting the old Thousand Sons image. It sounds like their name pre-dates Magnus, so the "M" is the Roman numeral for 1,000.

In very old 40k and Epic images they were red while using the M. I guess there still could've been a period of time during which they had switched to red but hadn't swapped the M for the ourobos or sun symbol, whichever it is.

This is probably a retcon (not that I mind) in order to explain why Ahriman's guys switched to blue and gold after ditching Magnus.
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>>51545563
It so beautifully understated. its simple and clean, the 40k one is cluttered and messy
>>
Doesn't look like we're getting anything substantial until tomorrow. The guy posting the stuff on B&C is being a faggot and crying about 'support da book you can't buy for at least two weeks yet!"
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>>51545574
Magnus' Aura gives a -1 to hit, does not modify BS or WS. Just a flat -1 to any die roll.

6-1=5, a miss. Even when shooting since it bypasses snap shots rules.
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>>51545551
>doesn't need LoS and Ignores Cover in Psychic
>Pay 2WC to add 2d6 S(>10 D) and double the range of witchfires
>enemies hit at -1, scatter +1 and Ds do -1 damage
>harnesses on 3+, ML5, can't roll 1 on perils, needs three 6 to peril

That's about it i think.
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>>51545551
This was in the last thread, so here.

>>51545574

We already have rules conundrums here. Invis hits on a 6, his rule is -1 to hit, can that take it to 7+ To Hit?
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>>51545624
>We already have rules conundrums here. Invis hits on a 6, his rule is -1 to hit, can that take it to 7+ To Hit?

No

Thats would be PLUS ONE to hit, not -1. -1 makes a 6 a 5.
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>>51545624
>-1 to hit
>On a character with a 5/6 chance of getting invisibility
nice work FW
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>>51545592
Yeah. The GW one lacks dignity and that air of nobility.
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>>51545624
>>51545615
means russ cant even be hit by anything WS4 or less after the 1st round of combat.

itll be FAQed so a roll of a 6 always hits, shits gamebreaking when 6s dont even hit.
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>>51545583
Why didn't Ahzek just go back to Pre-Maggie colors?
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>>51545306
Gee Guilliman, how come the Emperor lets you have two models?
>>
Anyone have stat lines for SW units?
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>>51542751
Some guy is posting his notes on the discord for ease of access, or you can repost them here if you hate using discord for some reason
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>>51545672
Exactly.

Guilliman looks less like a superhuman demigod, and more like a guy with freakishly long limbs in a super-suit.

>>51545694
Kek.
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>>51545412
you could meet other SW 30k players out there...
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>>51545694
I bet that Russ will get a wulfen mode model in 40k.
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>>51545705
Just give us Magnus' points faggot.
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Another little titbit from B&C, this time on that TSon swordsmen unit. (To save anyone else that doesn't know headhunters points off the top of their head looking it up, these dudes should be 185 base and 25 per extra.)
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>>51545694
>alpha legion
>2 primarchs
>no rules
>ultramarines
>1 primarch
>2 models
pottery
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>>51545757
Does this have it? Can't see from phone.
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>>51545624
Mother of God.
Is 30k now just Mechanium vs. Space Yiff vs. Ksons?
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>>51545760
I cant imagine that being worth it. It seems like the squad immediately skips from meh to overkill.

Although thinking about what 10 of them can do on the charge with some HQs out of a spartan could do. Fuck me haha. May even have to see how much damage they can do to a full Iron Circle squad (another full squad you will never encounter).
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>>51545779
Apparently
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>>51545779
custodes will be broken too 2bh
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>>51545757
>Gibsmedat
When did /tg/ get filled with niggers?
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>>51545765
Have you forgotten to ask about...
...Dorn?
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>>51545779
Sounds better than just Mechanicum.
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>>51545779
Yiffs seem fine. Primarch could be toned down but he's easy to kill with shooting.

Magnus is a bit insane. Should get toned down, but the rest of the legion is fine.

Custodes are crazy, but crazy expensive.
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>>51545779
Kaons onky seem broken because of Magnus. Otherwise they're largely reasonable, they throw out a lot of Psychic dice but the Cult benefits are relatively minor for everyone else. Yiffers might be OP from what we've seen, even without Russ.
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>>51545646
True, but meaning is clear. He's harder to hit.

>>51545670
Same with Russ, he has invis all the time unless you are WS10, in which case he simply has effective WS21 when hitting him.

>>51545685

Yeah, bullshit, especially if it's Magnus who can only be hit on a 6+ by anyone aand probably can't be hit at all. He's thus tougher than a Warlord Titan in melee.

That's still BS of the highest order, even if you're a Primarch.

>>51545779

Surely you mean Spess Yiffs vs Ksons vs Custodes. right? My Mechanicum can't do shit short of praying for Scoria to win a 50:50 duel with Russ or shooting the hell out of Magnus with grav before he goes invis. Custodes can ID the shit out of everything I have.

Reductor will probably fare quite well, at least. +1 to blast scatter aint a huge problem.

Magnus better be Warhound price, can't do much about Russ but shoot him, hes just a massively better Angron.
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>>51545710
Supposedly, most of that armor is pure robotics, a la the hulkbuster, instead of him in power armor.
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What's the point cost for Grey Slayers? Are they super expensive compared to tacticals? Are they really the only compulsory Troops unless I take a RoW?

Info on the wolf guard terminators? Elites? Are they just terminators with frost weapons as close combat weapons or what?
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>>51544807
underrated post

>>51545686
No longer sponsored by Mobil 1.
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Fuck me, the Weekender proper hasn't even started yet, the last thread hasn't even 404d and this one is already 50 over 404.

Inferno, you have saved us.
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>>51545876
>shooting the hell out of Magnus with grav before he goes invis
>implying that he won't deploy behind terrain because fuck Line of Sight
>also, enjoy hitting at -1
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>>51545804
They drop off too much in effectiveness to be useful in my opinion. You only need to kill 2 models in a 10 man squad to strip a total of 14 attacks from the unit.
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>>51545947
That is a good way of looking at them that I had not even considered.

They definitely require a spartan/claw/some other "guaranteed" delivery system and a tanky independent character in the lead.
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>>51545306
>>
do all space wolves get rad grenades? that was the rumor floating around a few months ago and it sounded cool.
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>>51545875
We know what the Cult benefits are?
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>>51545686
Other warbands did. There's a warband described in the Ahriman trilogy that is described as wearing ivory-colored armor.
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>>51545944
Yeah, it's a slim chance, but at -1 thats still Hit 3+ reroll 1, wound 2+ reroll 1. I suspect the best tactic would be to try to tarpit with 20 or 40 Thralls in a Triaros or Stormlord, or just a fuckton of Fearless levies.
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>>51545979
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>>51545876
>Magnus better be Warhound price, can't do much about Russ but shoot him, hes just a massively better Angron.

People are saying he's a melta bomb short of Horus
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>>51545938
>No longer sponsored by Mobil 1.
kek. I guess Big Bird's books ended that agreement. Also Chapter Generator has been updated. 1k Sons and Raptors are in.
>>51545986
Got the fluff piece?
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>>51545943
Mostly just shitposting over how broken the characters are, leakposts about Girlyman, and some interesting discussion about pre-Magnus/old-fluff Thousand Sons, and the Custodes and SoS.
>>
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>>51545970
The problem then is that the price that tallies up to warrants your opponent squaring up to it with their own melee deathsquad, which probably have 2+ saves.

In an ideal world where they get into melee unscathed against 3+ or worse, they will wreck so much shit you wont believe, but I don't se it happening most of the time.
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>>51546009
There is no way that's a thing.

He can legit casually shoot 750pts off table. Fucking Smite can one-shoot a Primarch.
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>>51545992
Thanks.

Kine Shields seems pretty nifty. If only Telekinetic Dome was the primaris instead of Assail.
>>
>>
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>>51546031
>Can get Santic Daemonology but not Malefic

Thousand sons really were the good guys, fuck Russ.
>>
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>>51546022
Not him, but I read the books. When Ahriman was recruiting other great TSons sorcerers, one of the warbands wore ivory armour.
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>>51546031
>may be purchased a mastery level of 1
>mastery level of 1
>1

no
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>>51546031
>Any HQ independent character unit who is not already a Psyker can be purchased a Mastery Level
>>
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>>51545975
aren't rad grenades more of Inquisition and Dark Angel thing?
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>>51546035
Perhaps they are a counter to fearless blob squads that are used to tarpit deathsquads?

I am not saying they are useful all the time, but I would love to see them get a charge off.
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>>51545193
Pretty sure they have said there will be an Emperor model w/ rules before.
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>>51546094
Which book in particular?
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>>51546054
Shred on bolt weapons for 15-25 points?

Sounds pretty good for Marine-Marine combat
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>>51546084
>40k TS can't overwatch for shit
>30k TS get to overwatch at BS2
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>>51546031
No brotherhood of psykers?

Not even a boost to their warp charges or something else?

>>51546054
Good rules on this page though.
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>>51546054
>+10 points for soul blaze plasma cannons

for what reason?
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>>51546097
For a librarian, they sure as shit don't have mastery of the English language.
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>>51546054
Man, rotor cannons may actually be worth taking in a TSon force.

But yeah, the real winners are sniper vets.
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>>51546146
looks like veterans and termies can have brotherhood
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>>51546147
Soul Blaze is noooot worth 10pp canon
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>>51545876
>My Mechanicum can't do shit short of praying for Scoria to win a 50:50 duel with Russ
Your fucking faction has the best shooting in the entire game and your pseudo-primarch has a 50% chance to win compared to everyone else's primarchs having 0-10% chance to win you god damn triple nigger
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>>51546138
It's almost like something happened to them in between.
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>>51545973
> I am that skull right now
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>>51546122
If I remember correctly, it was Sorcerer.
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>>51546179
Eh fair enough. It's almost as if most Mechanicum players try not to go full cheese and refrain from running 3 Thanatars and Scoria or 12 Phosphex Medusae.

We stand a better chance than most, I admit, but that's still not much of one, really.
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>>51546164
Can you link me that post please?
Elite psychic troops is what I'm here for.

>>51546173
Yup.

What would make it worth 10 points?
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>>51546031
Ksons are not too bad (besides Magnus sweet mother of God).
But the basic yiff rules mean they are the single best assault legion, it no shooting restrictions. Hands down
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>>51546122
Ahriman: Sorcerer
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>>51546054
>Note that where a power weapon is an option, this must be purchased first in order to be upgraded to a force weapon.
THIS

THIS IS THE WORDING THAT CHAINAXES NEED

THEY HAVE FINALLY LEARNED
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>>51546238
you'd have to add shred or removes gets hot

Really should be 5 ppc if its jsut soul blaze

>>51546084
>>51546054
>>51546031
Oh based venerable Anon, dost thou have pics of the elusive 1ksons unique units for this humble plebeian?
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>>51546238
>51546054
It's only a few posts up!

>51546054
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>>51545265
>>FW pushed
>forward
Nice try
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>>51545992
Wait, what units have the cult arcana rule?
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>>51546292
Forward in time. To a later date.
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>>51545306
Alpharius and Omegon get models.
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Honestly, just look at Primaris powers. Remember that 2d6 average is 7.

Biomancy: 36", 4 hits, S5+2d6 AP2
Pyromancy: Template, S4+2d6 AP-
Telekinesis: 36" Beam, S8+2d6 AP2

All WC3. All ignore Cover and don't need LoS.

What the fuck were they smoking?

Heck, you might even be capable of healing five wounds with Life Leech, because why not.

Unless he is like 900pts, he is just broken.
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>>51546031
I like how you have to pick your Warlord first. No deciding you want to base your army around dreadnoughts or a Stormbird, not until you've chosen that Warlord.
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>>51545779
I sure hope so, it means my AL will finally stop being FOTM with a bazillion armies in play.
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>>51546328
Where space yiffs rule page in easy to read format like Ksons.
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THE VULTERAX IS SECURE!
Long live the T6, flare shield on all sites Vulterax!
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>>51546143
Not enough white for my liking. I know really old TSons had black, but modern BA do too. It's the same three colors the BA have in Book 6.
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>>51546331
remember str 11+ is str D

though assault is ap-
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>>51546351
FOTM
Say what?
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>>51546031
So, the Librarian Consul upgrade says that I must take up to two level of psychic mastery. Can I take the Prosperine Lore upgrade first in order to get ML3 librarians? Or are Thousand Sons Libby's stuck at the same ML as everybody else? If they are, I'm kinda doubtful that they're worth it compared to just throwing an ML on another Consul type.
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>>51546364
Praise the fucking Omnissiah, it's even bloody BETTER.
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>>51546271
Yes, that's what I was thinking. Or maybe pinning?

>>51546281
Thanks anon.
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>>51546364
My gods.

So anyway, are we seeing any new favorite legion-specific units for the Alpha Legion to steal?
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>>51546331
>Biomancy
>S4 AP2
>Pyromancy
>S4 AP-
>Telekinesis
>S8 AP2

Are you high?
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>>51546364
ALL HAIL THE FLYING BOOP.

It makes one wonder why they didn't just make them T7 and leave the flare shield off, it's not like blasts and templates are going to have much opportunity to target them, so it's basically the same thing
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Fuck this Space Yiff and Ksons bullshit.
New DG army are going all phospex, all the fucking time.
The gloves have come off. Forever. Against everyone.
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>>51545306
>Me before a Black Crusade: don't dress weird, don't act weird, don't say anything weird.

>Me showing up to that Black Crusade:
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>>51546368
>remember str 11+ is D

get this lying shit out of here. Strength cannot be raised beyond 10, D is the only exception. It is the same reason why Perturabo still only hits at S 10, despite the hammer "doubling" his strength.
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Any news on Geigor?
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>>51546364
I dont get it, why does everyone thing this is so good? 175 pts for 3 haywire dosent seem so good
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>>51546445
I feel the same fucking way. I avoided the Ironfire but now fucking everybody gets a ride!!!
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>>51546447
Read Magnus Mind Wrath rules you fucking twat.
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>>51546447
Actually it works that way for Magnus and his psychic powers, he adds 2d6 strength to any witchfires he has and if it's 11+ it's D
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>>51546451
He has rules in the book. Probably coming up if anon's get to them at any point.
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>>51546331
Go read the psy power rules you dunce
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>>51546471
I never thought I would say this. Ever.
Here it goes.
I agree with you, my IWFAG bitter brother
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>>51546462
What can deliver 3 haywire hits for less? 3 grav rapiers are 225 points, for comparison.
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>>51546447
Stop being a fucking shitstain you illiterate cancer
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>>51546445
>>51546471
Just calm down. It's not like every Space Corgi and Dust Bunny are going to go full cheese.
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>>51546476
Good
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>>51546438
>>51546483
>S4 Smite
>S5 AP4 Flamer
>Beam is AP-

I literally shuffled them around, kek.

Still bullshit.
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>>51546499
a unit of servo automta with the tempest grenade launchers are 150 points or so and shoot 8 haywire shots. Solar Aux. only mind, but 8 is more than 3
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>>51546530
But they do not come on an extremely durable flying chassis.
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>>51546527
str D flamer is funny. smite at 36" str D,is Hi-larious.
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>>51546462
3 grav shots AND 4 TL S5 blasts that make you re-roll cover per turn on a flying model with effectively T7, 4 wounds and a 3+ save.

That shit isn't dying unless you throw everything at it. And then it can get buffs from Cyberthurgy.
>>
Actually, Vultarax got worse. Used to be T7. Happier with the change now desu, seems much nicer to play with and against others.
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>>51546511
30k tournies have been starting up in my area, so I expect cheese. The problem is that the level of cheese possible has just been drastically increased.
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>>51546462
It's also got some helpful blasts, can be cybertheurgied and never bloody dies. It's not spectacular, but it's a nice little bot and looks very cute.

>>51546445
>>51546471
>>51546493

>I joined the HH for balance, for relatively clean games and easily spotted cheese.
>Now, it appears to have been corrupted in the fires of war, psychic bullshit and undercosted units.
>Ah well, I was almost missing it.

*Loads Reductor Phosphex, grabs Vodian Sceptre*

Mechanicum. Nobody does it better.


(Yeah, yeah. Chill, same as Ironfire. Not like everyone will go full cheddar.)
>>
>>51546384
No, Librarians start at 1
If you want 3, take a Praetor
>>
>>51546555
>>51546540
I guess tractor cannons, and other flyers arent so common around you guys? though i suppose teh blasts are good vs cults
>>
>>51546559
Yeah, didn't change it much. No big deal, really.
>>
>>51546589
Tractor cannons are not (what in 30k has them? I cant think of something off the top of my mind). However these bad boys are gonna be hovering alongside my Xiphon
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>>51546569
In a way, we always knew it would end like this.
The signs were always there.
Nothing golden can stay.
>>
>>51546462
Because despite all of the Mechanicum's crazy shooting, it has problems with av14+. The only real option being melee or Krios venators. Darkfire cannons are so so.

Also Mechanicum, despite being an army of heavy weapons, cannot deal with hordes well (inductarii blobs, conscripts, etc). This is support for both one one unit.
>>
Jesus we're really rushing through these threads.
>>
>>51546611
I often play against 40k, simply because there arent so many 30k dude round here
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>>51545760
>Already modelled Sanakht, Ignis, Menkaura and Ctesias, Credence is still in bits but I have him planned
>New units+rules make all of them completely bar Ctesias fitting to use in an actual tabletop army

Well that went better than expected.
>>
>>51546589
That's 40k son, this shit isn't designed to run against 40k, it's nearly all weaker stuff.

And other fliers will get turbo-fucked by these, 3 haywire shots hitting on 3s is going to be at least 1 hull point a turn unless you get unlucky with the chance for an immobilise crash and burn or stun.

And then it's T7 with a 3+ and not many fliers can reliably deal with that.
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>>51546648
>Also Mechanicum, despite being an army of heavy weapons, cannot deal with hordes well (inductarii blobs, conscripts, etc). This is support for both one one unit
thats not true, irradiation engines and Thallaxs eat hoards, thanks to cover reduction shit. they themselves can also bring hoards to counter the other hoards
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>>51546654
Oh, then no. I play the game the way it was meant to and do not encounter tractor cannons.

Just kidding, i know the feel of not having any 30k players in the area. Feels bad man.
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>>51546650
Let's see if we can hit 500!
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>>51546569
>> joined HH for fluff and fun
> choose Mechanium
Mother fucker you bastard were the first sign of the cancer. The first fucking horsemen.
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>>51546693
Yeah, there are a couple round here, but i to my local around 6 msot weeks, so i dont get to pick who i paly very often.

i jsut avoid they guy who brings a knight and grav cents to every game
>>51546690
well shit. Most flyers should be able to deal with t7 3+, either though ML-EQ or las cannons. you only have to down it, then you can assult it (though that might be tricky)
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>>51545376
literaly in the instruction leaflet.
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>>51546734
Where else can I play my awesome boops? I mostly run mixed lists, avoid stuff like Phosphex and Cybernetica spam. Not all of us are cheesemongers, like not every IW player runs Quad-spam Ironfire.

This hurts us nearly as much, but at least we can "Compete" if it comes to that. I'd honestly rather it didnt.
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>>51546734
And Questoris Knights, 1Ksons, and the Yiffs round out the list.
HH is doomed.
All aboard the Hobbit SBG train (until FW fucks that over too with power creep)
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>>51546744
Yeah, 40k grav is basically a big "Fuck you" to every 30k army but Militia. If it's bullshit n 40, it's double cuntbag bullshit in 30k.

And yeah, I guess the Vulturax loses a lot of bite if it gets grounded but it's a decent jack of all trades that the Mechanicum needed as the guys above have described.
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>>51546790
Questoris is just a meme that no one runs. The only overpowered shit from Inferno is Magnus, possibly Russ.
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>>51546788
Has mankind EVER created a weapon it didn't use?
It's already here anon.
The Yiffs are already oiling their Wolf mounts, and sharpening their Wolf swords.
Ksons are buying out the plastic magnus as a stand in.
Game over man!
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>>51546822
New bread
>>51546822
New primarchs still OP
>>51546822
Inferno was supposed to save us, not doom us
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>>51546837
>and sharpening their Wolf swords.
>not wolfing their wolf swords
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>>51546849
>no links/summary
goooooooood fucking tryyyyyyy
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>>51546648
>problems with AV14
Vultarax says hi
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>>51546690
Hitting on twos, Enhanced Targetting Array and -1 to that Jink save
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Holy fuck more than 471 posts and still page 8

Also, fuck both Russ and Magnus. They're both "Power Creeping: The Primarch"
t. Mortarion's plain 2+/4++ vanilla armour.
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>>51546919
You think thats bad at least you get a good weapon
>T. Alpharius
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>>51546295
That's the golden question!
I hope even tacticals and scouts have it
>>
>>51546371
Flavor of the month
The army that gets played to exhaustion every time something good comes out for it
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>>51542834

Does anybody have fluff on what the NASCAR Sons were like before Magnus?
>>
>>51546691
Rad engines yeah. But outside of destructors aren't very obtainable. Macrocarid I suppose but still. Sill fairly short range even with torrent.

>>51546877
That's the point. Vultarax is the solution to av14
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>>51545583

I always thought the switch was because Tzeentch loves blue and gold. Not sure though.
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Is using artillery like basilisks a dick move with how commonly they are AP3? I just like big guns within my walls
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>>51544750
Ahh After 10,000 years I'm free! Time to conquer Terra!
>>
20 more posts and this motherfucker hits 500.

That would be a record for /hhg/
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>>51548269

+1

Russ has come for you traitor shitters AROOOOOOOOOO
>>
>>51543127
Hey, it's a new Fulgrim. Why's he got Ultramarines icons on his armour though? And why's he not a debauched titty-snake? And why'd he cut off his glorious mane?

>>51543192
Mk II and Tartaros Achean sub-patterns? Sign me up.

>>51544284
Well, Custodes Terminator art has always shown them in some kind of Cataphractii offshoot. From what I can tell from the cut-off flavour text, that's what's going on with this Aquilon pattern. Made sense it'd happen.

>>51544464
That doesn't look like a big change from the standard Contemptor model, if that's what the SW one is going to look like. Still, not bad.

>>51545218
Yeah, it kind of seems that way. Natfka has several posts on TGS 3, and none on the Weekender so far.

>>51545306
Sadly. Shitty action figure proportions or not, a lot of people will probably buy it because it's available in their local stores.

>>51545389
Yeah, at least the Lion has an excuse to look like a Chaos Knight.
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>>51544750
"Oy! Ten thousand years will give you such a crick in the neck."

He's even blue
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>>51545224
You da real MVP, etc.
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