Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>51542193
Wasn't there going to be new avowed stuff this week, did it drop without any big announcement? What was the new stuff supposed to even be? I sure hope there was more subpacts, especially for Self Pact.

2nd for guns r bad.

Because Anon
Players will never survive if you actually put your back to it as GM to kill them

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I'm playing in a game where the DM is giving us a free gestalted prestige class of our choice. I'm playing an Oracle, and for my prestige class I chose Evangelist- that means I get Aligned Class, but there's no point in taking it with Oracle because I'm taking Oracle levels side-by-side with Evangelist. So I needed to take a single level dip in another class or else I'd be wasting the Aligned Class feature, and I picked Sorcerer.

So we just reached 2nd level, and I'm taking my Sorc level. When we reach level 6, the Evangelist-gestalt will kick in, and the level after that Aligned Class will start going. But until then, I'll only have one Sorc level, which means just two 1st level spells known (on the Sorc side). I know one of them will be Color Spray, but do you guys have a suggestion for what the other one should be? At the moment I'm thinking either Charm Person or Grease, but am open to other ideas. I offer swanky-looking rings in exchange for advice.

My current Oracle spells are Cure Light Wounds, Murderous Command, and Bless, FYI.

>>51542244
But I'm not a particularly good DM!

>>51542275
That just means you have even bigger risk of outright killing them by going too hard on them

>>51542289
But in this module I've been running they've only had one seriously challenging encounter! There's like no tension!

>>51542193
I played an elf that was adopted by dwarves. For the most part, he was a walking dwarven stereotype, but except that, you know... he was an elf. I didn't get to play him long enough to really get into the ethnic stuff, but it was a lot of fun and all the other players liked him a lot.

>>51542193
last campaign I was in I tried, but everyone kinda just rolled their eyes, ignored it, and focused on "boohoo my wife is missing" all the time.

>>51542313
Did your players choose easy mode by making their characters so strong?

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>>51542362

Guys! Guys!

Who do you think is going to have the biggest culture shock out of the Rise of the Jade Regent characters when they go to the Land of the Linnorm Kings? Tian Xia?

I don't understand the "a bloo bloo bloo, my character might die" attitude after level 4-5 or so. Once you reach those levels you have the money to afford resurrection by some means. People get offended that their character might be in any form of actual danger. Heck even at low levels the only real issue is just how fragile you are.

I understand that attitude in other systems, but in Pathfinder I just can't fathom it. If you want to play with no character death then why play D&D or one of its derivatives.

People will argue "I should only be able to die at points of high drama". Honestly that fucking sense of entitlement is one of the major reasons I stopped GMing for randoms.

>>51542525
>Once you reach those levels you have the money to afford resurrection by some means

I don't even like resurrection at those levels, I just love the gravitas that comes with your character getting bloody murdered after becoming so close to the party after months of gaming.

>>51542525
In two games I ran I removed death as a meaningful consequence and it turned out pretty well.

>>51542522
I'll do least shocked instead.
>LotLK
Corwin
>Hongal
Seht
>Minkai
Onryou

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>>51542593

>mfw Corwin shows everyone the sights in Kalsgard
>mfw Onryou in Japan
>mfw Seht goes to the Land of Horse Archers and discovers he's a prodigy even there

And hey, if they go to Magnimar Valeriya could show the gang around!

>>51542522
why is that anime girl so shit?

>>51542691
I don't think I've ever seen an opinion so objectively WRONG.

>>51542710
I don't even know what that anime girl is, or what show she's from, just that that gif loop looks moronic and like something straight out of a CSI episode about weaboos

>>51542691
Kobeni is best girl.
... well okay best girl after Yukikaze.

>Fluffy closes this sunday
>one trap
>one titty monster
>one small to medium girl
>one non trap guy
Whos getting in?

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Who are the cutest Celestials?

>>51542674
...huh. Did Seht come off as a prodigy? I wasn't going for that, the horsemanship and archery was supposed to be a Shoanti trait.

>>51542795

Seht's going to be level 12 when the party stumbles into Hongal, that makes him a better horse archer than 99% of the people in Hongal.

Also, gestalt.

>>51542785
Nobody. Whole thing was bait from start to finish.

>>51542258
Just saying, but Sorcerer is kind of a waste, since action economy issues will prevent you from taking full advantage of it.

You'd be better off with, say, Magician Bard and taking the Harmonic Spell feat, and then you can use the spell-boosting Magician Bard benefits and your Oracle spells at the same time.

Why is Transformative Familiar a mythic ability? It seems like it would be perfectly fine as a feat.

>>51542853
The same could be said for half of the things that end up being labeled mythic.

>>51542817
Right, but the leveling is a result of experience, not inborn talent. He's supposed to be a spiritual prodigy, what with being touched by Desna, but not a physical one.

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>>51542877

Stop tearing my compliment apart, you silly goober.

>>51542877
Character Advancement is abstraction
Character growth can be anything you want

>>51542930
Stop making me doubt how well I can convey thoughts over text!

>>51542193
Last session.
Yes.
Yes.

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>>51542753
Kotomi is best girl. Always kotomi.

Any good programs or apps for managing characters and spells?

>>51543084
>managing characters
PCGen. It doesn't have all of the latest books (think it's like a year delayed) but it's good for basics.

>>51542789
Lyrakien azata

>>51543084
...

Notepad.exe?

I mean, what exactly are you trying to do?

Are the non-PbP RotJR games voiced or text only? Are they going to be recorded for our enjoyment?

>>51543084
If you're willing to pay money, take a look at Hero Lab. They license the books from Paizo so stuff includes the full text and original names, and they're generally up to date to about a month or less within the current books.

>>51543148
Keep track of gear and remaining spell usage.

>>51543156
text over IRC, maps over roll20

>>51543156
>voiced

Never.

N E V E R
E
V
E
R

>>51543156

I wish I could share my voice with the lovely people in my party, anon.

>>51543186
>>51543188

>Hating voice

WHY?

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>>51543203
>say the game is over text
>this means I hate voice

?????????
The GM wanted to do a game over IRC. And?

I might just make an Excel spreadsheet.

>>51543203
>assuming I'm lovely
>assuminh I'm not actually a dog on the internet

>>51543203
I imagine most anons are ashamed of their voice or, like me, don't have mics.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1h12HxmJ8Y6

Link related. This anon hated the way his voice sounds on vocaroo. Imagine hearing this describing how they brutally eviscerate the goblin with their +1 Longsword of Maiming and Extreme Murder Holy Shit Like Serious This is Serial Killer Stuff Like You're Just Chopping Up the Body Parts Now For No Mechanical BenefitS Other Then Your Sick Perverse Pleasure What's Wrong With You.

>>51543311
What's so bad abou-
>his
Oh.

>>51543311
>>51543341
That or all the anons that pretend they're girls - and I don't mean their characters - and then you see balding beardy mc'adamsapple on the webcam and you're reminded "identifying as" is bull.

>>51543203
>lewd game
>voice
Anon...

>>51543394
I think some of the people on here honestly do not understand...

Does anyone have the list of stuff Paizo talked about for Starfinder?

>>51543375
I was in an RL game with this big turbobeardguy once, and he came out as trans. I tried REALLY REALLY HARD to not be unsettled, but when this guy the size of two of you shows up with a padded bra and doing his best falsetto it's just... oy.

>>51542674
>Aranha knows nothing except about her home town.

>>51543518
I fucking know, right?

It's like I say: scribble Real Ferrari all you want on the hood, that shit's still an '86 Lada.

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So! Who all's excited for the weekend? Any big plans, game-related or otherwise?

>>51543590
ROTJR STARTING!
I AM MORE HYPE THAN MAN!

>>51543590
SLEEPY GODDESS PICKS IT"S PLAYERS ON THE 4th!

That's tomorrow bitches!

Who else comfy hype?

>>51543571
It's like I say, you can't tell what's under the hood from the color of the paint.
Also; don't talk about shit you don't understand, and especially not if you're going to make a stupid analogy to do so.

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>mfw someone just submitted an application that uses the same gestalt build I was planning on using
>mfw it is uncannily similar
>mfw I can't blame applicant for stealing it because he didn't steal it, my idea just wasn't original enough
>mfw my application is dead in the water before even submitting it

I want to be mad at him but I can't even blame him for applying. He's got good taste.

>>51543648
>don't say what build or game
Anon plz

>>51543641
>literally pointless comfy for the sake of comfy
>started an even more retarded wave of /pfg/ games
I'm not.

>>51543675
You're just an autist who can't appreciate gaming for the sake of gaming. I bet you rage quit games if anyone deals more damage in a round then you.

Tell me more about your high DPR ratio.

>>51543646
What part exactly did we not understand?
That some big guy with more beard than I've ever managed to grow expects us to keep a straight face when he tells us he's always been a woman?

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>>51543648
>tfw wondering if I'm that someone
I'm sorry anon. Maybe we can work something out? Be siblings, maybe?

>>51543712
>wanting something more than the vague and tenebrous concept of "muh comfy" means you only care about combat

>>51543712
Okay. I deal more damage in one round than the rest of my party does in two. Doesn't matter because we understand how narrative structure works and that doing nothing but jerking each other off about how cute we all are would get boring after one session.

>>51543648
Let me guess. You're one of the six symbiote slayers for assassins game who got buttmad when DHB applied.

>>51543784
Let me guess. You're that guy that keeps slobbing his knob?

>>51543751

This, which is ironic since plenty of viable comfy campaign concepts have been posted around here.

>>51543822
Sure, concepts.

Name five that were anything more then just "concepts."

>>51543590
>>51543600

REGENTBOWL CONFIRMED

GET FUCKING HYPE

>>51543799
The fact that people got buttmad when someone applied first with the same class combo is asinine.

>>51543834

The party are a gang of hedge knights traveling from tourney to tourney in the hopes of winning glory and, more importantly, a liege lord.

Ok who had that list of pfg games

>>51543909
None of them are worth joining.

Don't bother.

>>51543938
A mediocre game is better than no game.

>>51543954
You poor, poor soul.

Do not go down the path I went.

Let my suffering be the lesson for you.

/pfg/ games are not worth it.

Yes, a mediocre game is better than no game.

But no game is better then a /pfg/ game.

Do not let my suffering be in vain, anon.

>>51543669
I was going to make a young man of high prestige that moonlights as a pretty dancer and secretly does good deeds and lewd things. A rebellious follower of Desna, Black Butterfly, and Arshea. I was working on a Warlord/Bard or Warlord/Vigilante for Wrath of the Raunchy but I spent way too much time searching for pictures and trying to figure out the details of the build.

>>51543784
Nope, but I might try that game next with something not-so-lewd.

>>51543551
Then every new locale shall be a wondrous new adventure for little spooder.

>>51544010
>no game is better than a /pfg/ game
You heard it here, folks, /pfg/ games are the best!

>>51543954
Literally the opposite is true

>>51544394
No game is better than a bad game. A mediocre game is about equal with no game. Anything above mediocre is better than no game.

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>mfw I just want to play in a game
>mfw I never get picked in any of the games posted in /pfg/
I'm pretty much to the point that if I don't get picked for any of the games currently recruiting, I'm just going to leave /tg/.

>>51544018
Ehh, don't worry about it. I accidentally stole someone's character archetype and someone else's roll20 user name because I deliberated between 3 different builds. Just go for the vig/warlord build and differentiate it with less punching or something.

>>51543590
Running a non degenerate game with my friends on Saturday, gonna be lit

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>mfw tonight comes and goes, and there isn't a session for RotJR

>>51544539
I have been in the "honorable mentions" for every game I applied to. It makes me sad.

>>51544539
Run your own game faggot

>>51544728
Well you got that going for you though. People like you, your characters or your designs. The feel obligated to mention you, even if you don;t make the selection.

Of the games I've applied to, not a single one has even remotely mentioned me. Which makes me think that my style or genre of character isn't popular, appreciated or desired in the games posted around here.

>>51544785
But I can't play in a game I GM. How new are you?

Not a witchhunt, merely friendly memery.

How would you rate DHB's characters out of 10, which do you think is the best? The worst? We have:
>NTRDwarf
>NToRacle
>Old Spy
>Punch Fattery
>Gun Monkey
>Moon Hopper
>Asmo-Fish
>Weird Triplets

Which has the most meme potential? Who are the best written? Punch Fatty top tier in my opinion, NToRacle bottom tier.

>>51544974

I don't give a fuck because DHB is just one player out of many.

>>51544993
What character do you want to talk about anon? Lets talk about them.

>>51545024

U-Umm...

>>51545043
What player do you find interesting? We as a thread can look over people's sheets and back stories.

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>>51545082

Now is not the time or place to start memeing another person!

>>51545142
Let's just meme the same guy then!

>>51545183

No! Stop! Don't meme anyone!

>>51545192
But memes are fun.

51545192
It's too late. I'm memeing you in the past tense right now.
;

>>51545225

No, fun is fun. And fun is a buzzword. Stop saying things are "fun" so you need to do them.

Exfoliate yourself.

My character is a tiny pixie oracle. I was wondering if it was possible to combine Ant Haul and Lighten Object to carry my comrades.

>>51545245
People aren't objects unless they are corpses

>>51545245
As >>51545314 said a living creature is not an object. Items they carry still are objects however.

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>tfw my first and least polished app is the most likely to get in
God damn it, I've come up with such better ideas.

>>51545458

Clearly this idea is your best, if it gets in!

>>51545472
Incorrect logic, the games had different premises, different players, different level of competition.

>>51543235
I do all my stuff on a google sheet

>>51545512

Youre incorrect logic.

>>51545458
Polish it up further then.

>>51545572
>Polish it up further then.

But anon, the character isn't from Brevoy!

>>51545339
Is there a spell I could nab a wand of that would let me carry my other players?

>>51545561
That's what I plan to do.

So I'm designing a character for the Crusaders Game. I decided upon a Lion Blade agent. However being an exposed vigilante as a Lion Blade seems kind of odd. Though I guess it doesn't matter too much.

I decided upon:
>Sanguine Medic
>Fortune Thief Exposed Vigilante

Now someone who is level 9 and Gestalt is a pretty big fucking deal. What level of experience/deeds would you expect out of someone who is level 9 gestalt. Note that we get free leadership.

Mine I am using for a Oppara Shadow School that my character personally founded. Would Does that seem a bit too much?

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>>51542593
The only advantage Onryou has is she speaks the language. Probably a heavily accented version of it too.

She's going to be just as lost. And forget about colloquialisms

>>51545572
There's really nothing to polish before I know who my teammates are.

It's a skeleton that can be stretched out between every other plot hook the other players can come up with. So, you know, it's good in that way, but it doesn't have any meat to it.

>>51545645
Except for the fact that her instinctual oni nature is a large part of her character. Who would be /less/ shocked?

>>51545642
I am taking the fact that Dominicus Rell, Master of the Shadow Schools and head of the Lion Blades is Bard 3 / Rogue 3 / Lion Blade 3.

Meaning my character fairly easily outpaces him in talent (level 9 vs level 9 gestalt).

>>51545699

You do realize she's going to be a panting, fuck-hungry glutton by the time she gets into Minkai, right?

>>51545458
On the bright side, you're also applying alongside a bunch of overly verbose autists who made mary sues

>>51545793
Verbose != Mary Sue

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>>51545747

>>51545803
(Verbose != Mary Sue) != (Verbose = !Mary Sue)

>>51545458
What game.

>>51545747
That's when she commissions a chastity belt from Casimir

>>51545839
>insultng the DM likely to pick me
No.

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>>51545747

>>51545793
Next you're going to say that a cult trying to make a god and a paladin orphanage is nothing but snowflake territory

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>>51545841

>mfw the belt has some special enchantments and modifications

>>51545835
True, but you can be a mary sue at any background length.

>>51543641
>Not realizing you got FAKE GAME'd

GM has been absent, yo.

>>51545711
>>51545642
So what is a good codename for my Lion Blade?

For some reason I got into my head to call him "Lucky Monday", but think that sounds pretty bad. Agent Monday would be what he is called, or just Monday. However the issue is Monday doesn't fucking exist in golarion. Also the name is bad.

For a guy who steals the luck/vitality of his enemies in unarmed combat what do you think would stick? He's essentially weirdly vampiric.

>>51545908
Not to mention the "emergency meditation techniques" she developed. Granted you do NOT want to see the "Emergency Meditation Techniques"

>>51546006

Head's Up.

>>51542826
That's an interesting idea, doubly so since I was originally planning on playing a Bard but changed to an Oracle. I'm a little surprised the idea never occurred to me, actually.

I'm not certain about Magician; I don't like giving up Inspire Courage for Dweomercraft. Dweomercraft isn't useless though, and most everything else from that archetype is very nice. I certainly have to strongly consider the idea of taking Bard instead, and figuring out whether I use a Bard archetype is a secondary decision.

What two Bard spells would you suggest rolling with if they're the only Bard spells I'll get until 7th level? Color Spray isn't available to Bards, but Charm Person and Grease are both Bard spells so I'd probably take those unless I find something better. Both are good spells that aren't terribly hurt by the low caster level I'd have to deal with.

Anyone got a copy or know where to find Bloodforge for free?

>>51546504
>too lazy to look in the trove
And no, there doesn't seem to be the updated version available yet for poorfags.

>>51546024
You can't just say that and not explain yourself

>Finally have the prison scenario figured out
>One of the PCs on the "rescue" team has fallen ill and can't make it to the game
Well, fuck.

>>51546556

It involves multiple long, thick rods.

>>51546575
Replace them with an NPC who oddly dies as soon as the session is over.

Hey /pfg/,
I have this idea of a Charisma mainly-monodependant character.
Venerable half-elf synesthesist X/Lunar Oracle (Prophetic Armor)/Paladin 2
So begins game with Cha 23 (18 + 2 race + 3 age), and uses its modCha for CA and Saves.
Do you know a feature that could enable me to attack using Charisma with or instead of Strengh?

>>51546829
It's terrible. Unobjectively, terrible. Please consider another way forward.

>>51546584
Self flagellation. .with acid tipped barbs

>>51546829
There's a Starknife thing for Desna which does it.

>>51545881
A cult trying to make a god and a paladin orphanage is nothing but snowflake territory!

N-NANI?!

>>51544539
I understand your pain. I've applied to quite a few games, to the point where I'm trying to run a second /pfg/ gamed now.

Are there any good third party APs that aren't Way of the Wicked?

>>51547062
If /pfg/ made an AP, what would it be about and where would it be set? Don't say lewds because that's the icing on top, not the cake itself.

>>51547114
Well, Land of the Linnorm Kings has never had more than a quick stop off in its territory. Perhaps it's time to have a whole AP about raiding, wrassling, and slaying dragons?

>>51547114
DHB is apparently making one that is the fantasy bolshevik revolution.

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>>51547114
an AP about a crew of thieves pulling off heists and getting progressively richer/more powerful, while possibly getting wrapped up in matters of larger scope as the campaign progresses

not sure which locales would be the best place to set it in, unless we wanted to just invent our own city

>>51547142
RIP LotLK game

>>51547114

Ending the Endless Revolution of Galt

>>51547341

I want to marry a France!

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>>51547353
France would indeed be a wonderful setting for an AP.

I wish it were real.

>>51547415

Isn't Golarion's France supposed to be Rahadoum?

>>51547114
Probably another Mythic Adventure. Maybe into that permanent Hurricane. I dunno. I think they need to do another Mythic one though.

>>51547062
Frog God Games have some quality shit.

Your party is charged in taking and capturing an enemy citadel.

The citadel is on the back of a particularly large Mu Spore:
>http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/bestiary2/muSpore.html

It's approximately 500ft long and carries a fortress of hardened and protected wood on its back. The fortress employs a number of magic defenses such as teleport traps into the Mu Spore's stomach, False Vision shielding the entire place from scrying, guardian constructs and an occupying force, a planeshift & greater teleport the Mu Spore can use in emergencies, hardened and layered outside walls to prevent disintegration (using the decanter defense), and numerous magical cannons under the command of a competent siege engineer..

>>51547455
Nah, Galt. Guillotines, agitators, Robespierre motherfuckers, even got a Scarlet Pimpernel analogue when Ultimate Intrigue came out.

>>51547455
Rahadoum is not!facist spain.

>>51547519
Scarlet Pimpernel plus Batman.

Still!

https://youtu.be/9__6m6iOodw

>>51547114
If I had the skill...

>Building Azlant, UNDA DA SEA Edition
>Welcome to the Antarkos, Enjoy Your Penguins
>Welcome to the Elemental Planes, Have Fun
>AAAAAH, AFTER TEN THOUSAND YEARS, YOU'RE FREE! IT'S TIME TO CONQUER EARTH!
>Guys Where'd We Put The Thing In Our Shared Dream?
>Were We Supposed To Invade The First World or the Worst World?

>>51547637
I thought Taldor was not!Spain.

>>51547681

They're already doing the first one.

>>51547683

Taldor is Europe Land with prominent French and Byzantine influences.

>>51546911
Why is it terrible?
>>51546983
Thank you!

How do I into Protean Prowler? It seems to be just directly worse than Symbiotic Slayer.

>>51546983
>>51547742
I saw the Spherewalker Prestige Class, it is nice but the bonus of charisma applied to attack rolls is unfortunately limited to a few times per day.
Thanks nevertheless, this Desna goddess seens very nice.

>>51547114
>>51547142
I'm running a campaign that takes place in the Land of the Linnorm Kings IRL, and may try to polish it up a bit to put out online when it's finished.

But it's also not the Land of the Linnorm Kings AP that /pfg/ would want, I think. It doesn't take really take advantage of the features of the setting. My players aren't fighting linnorms and looking to become kings/queens, they're fighting the cult of a nascent demon lord seeking to ascend to true divinity. That's what they think they're doing, anyway.

>>51547828
>kill a few CR1/2 goblins
>get railroaded into being heroes

thrilling

>>51547886
Nah, there's a Divine Fighting Technique for Desna, that lets you use your charisma for attack and damage instead of Strength.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/divine-fighting-technique-combat

It's the Way of the Shooting Star in here.

>>51547911
BIG
GODDAMN
HEROES

>>51543123
Those are the fleshlights with wings, right?

>>51547911

Hey! Hey! Have you seen a goblin? Nasty creatures!

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>>51547828
SO IT DOES

>>51547911

How is killing a goblin raiding party and becoming temporary village celebrities in a very sleepy, very gossip-starved town "railroaded."

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>>51547982
Wait for that moment in which you realize how fucking terrible goblins can be even if they seem to be pathetic goofballs.

>>51548035
They're like children.

And children can be really fucked up.

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>>51548049

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>>51548049
I don't know of any children which would end biting the face off from a father trying to defend his son[/spoiler ]

>>51548049
I only trust children as far as I can throw them, but goblins are bouncy so I don't know if I can say the same of them.

>>51548035
Fuck I remember reading somewhere that goblin blood tastes so terrible as an adaptation because otherwise the babies would chew their way out of their mother's like a goddamn chest burster.

Or maybe that was some shit my GM made up.

>>51548067

I don't like that sidequest, it's way too depressing. The alternate fate of the guy (he's just dying instead of dead) is far better.

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>>51548078
That is made up.
Goblins breed like bunnies and usually are awful parents which put their children into cages because they are hyper active as fuark.
When there are too many they even do rooster fights.

>>51548078
No, that sounds familiar to me too.

>>51548099
I had the goblin gnaw off his leg while the guy was dying. It does help you deflate the heroes' ego and esteem, because the guy is still crippled.

>>51546026
I kinda like it. Not sure though.

>>51546006
Anyone else have an idea? Maybe something lion theme'd as well?

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>>51548099
I made the wife go full Nualia at later points of the AP

>>51548118

They also love pickles!

They fucking love pickles!

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>>51548065
This is always an excellent meme

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>>51548259
Is like crack cocaine for them.

Who is this OOC guy and how can he manage to irritate the GMs of every single game up right now?

>>51548379
I dunno, that sounds awfully out of character for him, maybe he's just trying to rile you up?

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>>51548379
>>51548436

Huh?

Ranged touch attacks add dex and regular touch attacks add str, but can you use them with finesse?

>>51548457
It's a mystery to me

RoTJR is habbening!!

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>>51548672

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>>51548672
can you at least wait until they finish the session to shitpost about it?

>>51542242
Just like refluff bows and ignore autists

>>51548923

>tfw I really dont have a problem doing this

>>51542258
You should have gone with something that is not a caster, if you want to gestalt caster you would be better going into mystic theruge, and taking more levels of your other class, I would say paladin would be a better choice for cha synergy.

>>51542242
Guns can be good, the problem is cost, but once you can make as many alchemical rounds as you need to they become much better, guns have access to, fifteen foot sprays, touch attacks, and dex to damage with sufficient levels, the only issue is the stupid cost inflation, but if you use the rules to make guns cheaper it will tend to make them far more viable.

With one game out of the way, vote on who gets into this one.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12249945/

What is the best place in Golarion to play a bunch of Russian freelance mercenaries wandering a blasted hellscape collecting artifacts spat out of body-misting anomalies?

>>51546829
>>51547931
Yes, I see. Too bad it asks for high dex, as I want to dump dex as a relevant score (as I intend to go huge with my eidolon and the Oracle 1 revelation replace Dex by Cha in CA).
Still, it can make a pretty strong character with a high CA (eidolon natural armor + modcha + armor spell) while being huge and a high STR score, plus modcha on all Saves thanks to paladin 2.
>>51546911
You think it is terrible, I would like to know why. Seems good from my point of view.

>>51549105
>assassins game
Who gives a shit?

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>>51549105
Are you the GM?

>>51549198

Why does that wolf have two pairs of ears?

>>51549168
Irrisen?

>>51549105
>gore fetish character has the most votes
a fucking joke

>>51549228
Mutant scum. Beware the under hives citizen.

>first time GMing
>making the entire campaign from scratch
how fucked am I?

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>>51549261

But she's so cuuute~!

Ideas guys I need confirmation

>Game in which everyone is a member of a royal tiefling clan in a tiefling society in one of the lower planes and weird bird creatures that walk on two legs have invaded your PRIVATE PROPERTY and you have to find out WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW before things get worse
>Y/N?

>You wake up in a strange chamber (a la the intro to RAGE by Id Software but with elves!) thousands of years after a disaster and must get familiar with the world outside
>Y/N?

>Everyone is some kind of Path of War gestalt and you're on a crusade to FIGHT FOR YOUR GOD so that you can win ETERNAL HONOR AND GLORY.
>Y/N?

>>51549433
It's really not that hard. The only thing you may really have a problem with is getting a feel for encounter design.

>>51549463
1 sounds like the most interesting idea.

>>51549463
Y, Y, N

The last is N because not enough info.

What's the most mechanically interesting Path of War build you've ever seen or played? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A7Z4broE0WE9eb_1rua640cwdUqMzWUsu4g_HBGyVrY/edit This one is probably the coolest I've seen yet.

>>51549463
Fight For Honor?!?

>>51549463

N
N
Y

I really, really like properly done Crusades. Especially if it seamlessly moves from conquest to kingdom politics!

>>51548672
I cant wait for the Justice Friends to start bashing butts

>>51549532
Basically: crusades!

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>>51549532

SOMEBODY SAY FOR HONOR?

>>51549587
See, it always bugs me, but stuff like that never really strikes me as PoW-like in any way. That's just what normal combat is abstracted from.

>>51549587
For some godforsaken reason .webms won't load. You got a youtube link to that or something?

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>>51549261
Not like /pfg/ has had a thing against mutants for the most part.

>>51549587
Aiiii, fuck that PtP shit though. Hope it doesn't ruin shit.

>>51548379
>Irritate
Pretty sure the only things he discussed is infusion use with familiars and how to fix ships.

>>51549654

>>51549433
Depends on your players and how well you deal with the feeling of "Oh FUCK, I did NOT plan for that to happen."

>>51549653

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1HkuGUaNBY

>>51549620

It's PoW-like *and* abstracted combat, personally.

>>51542785

Ryuko
Sohyon
Kimbrely
FoxDie

>>51549654
Gliche x seht when?

>>51549698
Yeah, PoW always strikes me as more... anime. Moves being more discrete things rather than just FIGHTING.

>>51542219
There was going to be, but I've been delayed by a combination of massively increased work hours and a puker virus of some sort.

We've got a large update coming for both A1 and A2, as well as a preview of tech stuff, but they're not /quite/ ready yet.

Jolly, I see you working on the SoM 3 document right now. Would it be inappropriate to send you an e-mail? I have suggestions for the playtest which are more far-reaching than any one section, and I was hoping I could talk to you 1v1 about them. (Talore Valfrid on docs, critiquer of every other damn line of text here.)

So is the reason people say to stay away from Pathfinder all the extra material being messy thematically? I think the mechanics are fine...

>>51549737
>Yeah, PoW always strikes me as more... anime

Really? Because when I think PoW I think of Dark Souls boss fights.

Ornstein for example is nothing but Piercing Thunder and Elemental Flux.

>>51549758
People think splats are unbalanced because of other games when in truth the further you get from 3.PF core, the more balanced the game gets.

>>51549758
Not really. The setting's a mess thematically too. Hell, the mechanics cover less ground than the setting does.

People say to stay away from pathfinder because it's complex. But some people don't mind that at all.

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>>51549741
Keep on doing what you're doing, you glorious group of trees you. I'll drink one in your honor.

>>51549711
Seht x mori when?

>>51549816
Oh jesus is this really what we're coming to?

>>51549758

Caster Supremacy (Full Casters can do way more cool and useful things in and out of combat, and later on completely break the game. See: Wizard, Druid, Cleric, Arcanist, Master Summoner).

The skill system is fucked up.

It's fucking complicated and crunch heavy.

Before d20pfsrd, you had to sift through so much shit to make your viable.

Rogue sucks.

>>51549763
Yeah, Dark Souls as well, just doesn't strike me as PoW-like at all.

It's all the nitty-gritty stuff of combat, no flamboyant special moves or somesuch. At least not as standard.

And as for Ornstein, I always thought he worked better as a Mageknight or Elementalist.

And his Spear is also a Destruction Spherestaff. Maybe a Wand too, explaining why the Chosen Undead can use it to shoot lightning as well.

>>51549839
Why would you care now that Slayer is a thing.

>>51549816
>>51549829

Mori X Queen Culdranth.

>>51549867
...better.

>>51549829
It's where we've always been heading, anon.

>>51549853
Slayers are shit though.

>>51549884
DELETE THIS

>watching Paragon getting nerfed in real time
This is surreal.

>>51549884
Sorry but everything they do is bad, a similarly built rogue can achieve the exact same thing without the fuss and x per day abilities are a trap 9 times out of 10

>>51549853

I don't care overly much. You're right that Slayer pretty much fills the same role, and seems to be a great starting class.

Just saying, it's evidence that suggests the founding design philosophy Pathfinder came from was garbage, and will continue to influence the overall game in SOME way, no matter what.

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>>51549929
>and x per day abilities are a trap 9 times out of 10

That's a big stinky lie and you know it, Slayer is better than the Rogue.

>>51549853
Slayer's kinda... butts. It kills dudes but doesn't really have anything interesting.

Rogue can at least pretend to be interesting. And then unchained ones can be killy too with their Dex to damage better than Deadly Agility can get you.

>>51549955
>but doesn't really have anything interesting.

>Ranger/Rogue talents are not interesting
>Full BAB and medium armor is not interesting
>Track is not interesting
>Sneak attack is not interesting
>Quarry and Advance and stuff are not interesting

Slayer can be designed as anything from an assassin to a woodsman, and everything in-between.

>>51549949
>>51549951
>>51549955
I'd rather play a core ranger if I wanted to pull off a jungle ninja. Sorry, but cmon show me one thing about the slayer that makes it worth the space in the srd.

>>51549884
>>51549955
I've seen some bait in my day. but this takes the cake.

>>51543590

Hoping the game gets off the ground this weekend. Looking forward to playing my country girl musket slinging witch.

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>>51549997

It's a class with strong mechanical, martial and narrative power.

>>51543590
Last minute notice that I got picked for an only war game so thats something.

Wish I could start working on my WotR app though but maybe I'll do that on monday.

>>51549976
Ranger combat styles are just feats.

It's ability to get rogue talents is HARSHLY limited to a turbo-shit whitelist that nobody ever adds anything to.

And the list of Slayer Talents is fucking anemic to a hilarious degree. And what it does have isn't really all that impressive.

>Track
Oh boy. Be still my beating heart.

>>51550028
Its literally a class designed for npcs.

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>>51550063
>>51550065

You better delet this right now or I'm gonna give you a butt slapping, you big mean jerk!

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>>51550028

Please don't fall for the bait, anon. These guys are desperate. Just ignore, and m-maybe we couldb animepost together sometime?

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>>51549741
>as well as a preview of the tech stuff

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>>51550102

>Just ignore, and m-maybe we couldb animepost together sometime?

That would be lovely!

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Guys the naziposting is making Jolly not want to lurk or post here. It needs to stop for good.

>>51550135
the fuck are you even talking about.
there's not one nazi girl in this thread.

are you even on the right board?

>>51550085
I'm not saying Slayers are bad!

They're one of, if not THE best class for strength-based TWF.

They're just... not really impressive. They were better in a fightan sense than rogues, but then there's Unchained Rogue which brings it back up to contend.

And then the amount of Slayer Talents there is to pick from is just... sad. And how many of them are actually unique in any way?

>>51550085
"Oh boy I can't wait to ride Ranger's and Rogue's coattails while offering none of my own unique flavor. Why, even bloodrager has something unique about it!"

>>51550156
There is none right now but we've had naziposters for a few days now shitting up /pfg/.

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>>51549867
Well it cant be DISproven. Lookit that face. That's the face of a slut!

>>51550185
Too true. And each in a different mood of sluttiness.

>>51550185
>tfw Aisha didn't get in, therefore Marduk didn't get in
>no bullying her 1000 year old son for still being single when he has a cute elf waifu
>no big titted elf black smith waiting for the dragon d
God damn it SwimmingEagle

>>51550175
>Oh boy I can't wait to ride Ranger's and Rogue's coattails while offering none of my own unique flavor

ARE YOU TELLING ME A SLAYER CANNOT BE

AN ASSASSIN

A HUNTER GUY

A DUELIST

A CLEVER MERCENARY SOLDIER GUY

A BOUNTY HUNTER?

>>51550219
>unique

>>51550158
What are you on about?
Pretty sure a sap master rogue can achieve the exact same thing but better in every conceivable way that matters.

I'll say it again, all its features are so vestigial that you may as well be that axe guy from runelords that spent his few skills on craft(masonry) and profession(siegebuilding).

Its like you burn 4 years in college and squander it in a useless degree like philosophy or some shit.

>>51550219
So basically an alchemist without cool shit?

>>51550219
They can be all of that. So can Rogue. So can Ranger. Slayer doesn't add anything unique to this.

Woo, you got studied target. Oh wait no, so does Investigator. Guess you gotta share your single new thing.

>>51550270
>Investigator and Slayer having the same thing

except they aren't mechanically the same besides "I study a dude for bonuses"

>>51550214
Oh it will happen, it just will happen with the names changed to avoid copyright

>>51550296
That's such a fucking dick move though

Seriously, who the fuck randomly chooses their players?

>>51550242
Slayers have the advantage of being able to bypass the dex prereqs for TWF. They also have Studied Target for extra static bonuses to attack and damage.

Also, Nonlethal runs into some issues from time to time.

>>51550320
Perfectly acceptable when its a toss up. Which it seemed like it was.

>>51550320
>Seriously, who the fuck randomly chooses their players?

Someone who has multiple apps of the same quality that can't decide between them.

>>51550352
Those are some pretty big implications and assumptions anon.

>>51550214
how is that even single.

>>51550417
no kids, too busy with treasure hunting and jolly cooperation.

He was a really good NPC for the game and the tone

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Ya hangin' in there, /pfg/?

>>51550178
This isn't your safe space.

>>51550454
The reason m not going to use him is because you seem pretty adverse to me using him

>>51550560
Well, I've got some awkward anticipation for Fluffy decision, because sunday I'm day tripping, and then monday-wednesday I'm on a business trip

got a comfy game going though. Play by posts are nice.

>>51550588
Which is worse, losing the good will of someone who creates good content, or losing some random dude who feels the need to be edgy by going "imma nazi deal with it"?

>>51550602
I am.

>>51550588
It's also not a place for attentionwhoring.

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>>51549239
What's wrong with having a guro fetish, anon?

>>51550560
I've come to terms with and accepted my impending early demise if that's what you're wondering.

Oh. You mean game-wise.

Well, we seem to be on hiatus but otherwise things are fine. Maybe I'll try homebrewing a race or building NPC's or something.

>>51550588
If the content creators stop coming here, we don't get content.

I mean, if you had guests over, would you just leave your uneaten pizza crusts all over the floor in the open?

>>51550135
That's some nice proof you got there bud.

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>>51550623
>>51550710
I get what you're saying and agree, but try to define what nazi posting is. The people picking nazi-anon out of the crowd and jabbing at them?

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>>51550623
If their skin isn't thick enough to handle anime girls in nazi uniforms what the fuck are they doing here in the first place?

>>51550631
Can't exactly make everyone happy.

Thank you for your wonderful ideas. You're very inspiring.

>>51550588
And this isn't a political board, meaning Any kind of political talk is a no go.
This includes flag waving of any kind.

>>51550772
Same thing all devs have done here, try to sell us a product by making us think they're one of us.

>>51550710
If I collected nazi memorabilia I'm not going to put it away because someone might get offended.

>>51550761
The guy who, every time he's shown up, has made a big thing of "IMMA NAZI". Practically a tripfag.

It wouldn't be so bad if he was just avatarfagging with his anime girls, but then when somebody recognizes him he starts bitching about how it's okay to be a nazi, and "stop getting triggered, it's triggering me."

>>51550792
If the topic at hand is how the cheliax empire has comparisons to nazis then it's on topic, no? It's not flag-waving or political advocation for fascism. Nazis were stylish and organized, and cute anime girls in nazi uniforms.

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>>51550787
You know that kissing his ass like that after rejecting him by chance is just rubbing salt in the wound, right?

>>51550796
I have nothing against Jolly but the board shouldn't have to cater to one persons delicate sensibilities.

>>51550848
/pfg/ has always been this way about devs, though. I still remember people harassing random anons for calling Gareth the piece of shit that he was.

>>51550848
>Implying it's only one person

I want it gone too.

If you wanna gas about being a nazi, take it to /pol/. Don't bring it up here.

>>51550796
>Us and them mentality

Y'know this is a load of shit, right? 4chan isn't some fucking cabal.

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>>51550833
Bullshit! If Cheliax is the Nazis, then where are my cute u-boat girls?

You dont have to be a nazi to notice that a hidden jew is trying to kike out a few bucks out of your family.

It may be a retarded family that you hate but its still your family.

>>51550833
Then stick to discussing Cheliax, what happens There, and the in game lore surrounding It.

I personally don't give have a shit, but I like some of the "hey I part of *blank* and is having a play test, tell me what ya think".
Especially after finding out piazo doesn't give to shits about Legitimate criticism and their play test are in name only.

>>51550872
>Y'know this is a load of shit, right? 4chan isn't some fucking cabal.
No, but we're a bunch of potential customers.

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>peer into thread while in the middle of shit
>it's another "I'mma use a dev name to justify shitposting" episode

this isn't being excellent, this isn't being excellent at ALL!

>>51550931
/pfg/ hasn't been excellent in... ever?

I'm making a Paladin sect that's comprised entirely out of tieflings for my game, but given that it's a really unoriginal concept I figured I'd come here and ask: is there already one in Golarion that I should just pick up and use?

>>51550947
This is a notable decline in the existing level of excellence.

>>51550891
Patrolling the waters to prevent those dirty southerners from using their strait without paying the proper tolls.

>>51550872
And I don't care bout it either way except this isn't fucking tumblr and we shouldn't have to worry about triggering sensitive little flowers.

>>51550959
>implying you can go lower than -infinity

>>51542258
where do people find all these gestalt giving dms?

>>51550959
Okay, I'll give you that at least.

But really, where did Jolly actually say he didn't want to come here because of nazishithead?

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>>51550975
Torpedoing dirty Shackles pirates!

>>51550975
Well rather than worrying about upsetting 'sensitive little flowers', you worry about creating a fucking cancerous mass that nobody wants to hang out in.

>>51550975
>Patrolling the waters to prevent those dirty southerners from using their strait without paying the proper tolls.

How couldn't they stop White Estrid from entering the Arch?

>>51550727
See for yourself in the recent Spheres of Might preview 3 comments.
>N. Jolly
>I'm not going back to PFG until they get over whatever nazi kick they're on.
>6:52 PM Today

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>>51551013
I'd normally side with being polite here, but I honestly think that naziposter didn't do anything wrong. The only time they ever mentioned politics in any way was "Hey, man, I share your views, but take it to /pol/". Maybe I'm thinking about a different naziposter?

>>51551040
I'm talking about all of it. All of them. I don't care what his political views are as long as he doesn't talk about them.

Also, y'know racism is actually also against GR3.

>>51551036
Ah, I don't look through the comments much because there's way too fucking many now, it's a slog to go through.

>>51550588
Well I agree with freedom of speech, this is not a board for political discussion, this is for the discussion of rpgs, so Nazi posting is off topic.

>>51551013
4chan has always been filled with cancer. Trying to cater to any group and control what is and isn't cancer goes against the freedom of posting. I bet you'd like the janitors to monitor and delete any off topic posting eh? /pfg/ should strictly be pathfinder! All off-topic discussion now bannable offense!

who's the nazi now?

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A thing i have started.

I need help.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nstmQUI4lu8Ai8pYnVBjjfL0ebT-X4azRL2VJYJavIA/edit

>>51550995
You're using infinity wrong.

You can only approach it, and you can always approach faster.

>>51551066
There's a difference between a benign cancer that just sits there and a malignant one which kills you fucking dead.

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>>51550996
do I have to post about nazi's too to get a (you) here?

>>51551103
They find them right here, Anon.

There's like seven gestalt campaigns open for apps RIGHT NOW. One is closing in four hours and the GM said they have an open slot still.