Age of Sigmar General ! /aos/

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Posting this since someone was asking for it in the other thread and fuck, the guy worked hard on it and deserves the shilling.

Just "finished" my Ogroid from Silvertower thats going to be the start of my Tzeentch dudes.

I say he is finished .... he's painted and on a base. Having looked at the official gw one on the website i am now extremely unhappy with how he has turned out and will be going back to him to add more detail. I've already spent a week every night after work on this fucker so i feel like i need to get painting some other miniatures. I am never happy with my work, it is a curse.

What are you guys working on?

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What was your first AoS purchase?

>>51498990
Show us what you have done, Anon

>>51497798

That's gonna be a lot of work but i think it'll look amazing in the end. Im still undecided on what scheme to do my SC. I was thinking a while marble look or go a crusading knight style.

>>51499002
Storm of sigmar.
I wanted to get into the game but hate never painting full starter kits. The SoS box was £14 with staff discount and i get to play small skirmish games at the pub with it.

I'm not ashamed to gush over how fucking wise that release was.

(now if they would only release warscroll cards like the ones in the box.)

>>51499002
A dickload of Sylvaneth.

>>51498990
Post pictures anon, im sure it's not as bad as you think.

>>51498990
The secret is not to just compare your to the professional paint jobs. Go find one thats worse to even it out Anon.

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>>51499034
The warband is for hinterlands so it won't be too bad, only ten or so models, mostly human followers of the crusading stormcast.

Marble looks great but you might get very sick of it after a few models. Crusading knight could be cool some BRIGHT silver armour with nice heraldry.

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>>51499035
>now if they would only release warscroll cards like the ones in the box
That was the best fuckin thing they have made. IMO every start collecting should have cards like this. I could pay these 2-3$ more for something like this

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>>51499002
Ive got over 20 of these guys painted like this that were my first major thing I had for my first army back in the day. Still love these guys even though they have that sad paint from when I was a kid but I'm attached to them anyways.

>>51499002
First purchase with AoS branding - Forest Spirit Warhost box set. I am set for Treemen for a while I think.

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>>51499002
Pic related, though it was a gift.

>its been over a month
>completely untouched
>no one to play with
>no one interested
>cant find motivation

>>51499323
Then sell it ?

I like how everytime someone complain about nit being able to find a game they never told us where they live because google map would expose at least 10 flgs

>>51499002
I messed up. these guys >>51499279 are not my first AOS purchase they are my first GW purchase...

since AOS dropped my wife and I have bought 20 executioners, 20 phoenix guard, 60 dreadspears/darkshards, 30 witch elves, a black dragon, a high elf dragon, 10 sisters of avelorn, alarielle, handmaiden, loremaster, sisters of slaughter, cauldron of blood, and sisters of the thorn. I'm probably forgetting things in that list.

We also just bough most of a huge Tzeentch army.

Ill be buying more elves whenever they release new elves.

>>51499392
Besides, how is he expecting to find a game with an unopened box of minis

>Wanna have a game?
>Yeah sure thing
>Cool but first I just have assemble this real quick
>...

>>51499323
Oh my, I would kidnap someone to play with me if I had box like this. There were no people interested in AoS in my area so I bought starter set and run few matches with my gf. After 3-4 weeks we had 6 new players and 3 old WHFB non-salty veterans

>skyfires are only $45 CAD
>kurnoths are $70 CAD

What the fuck is going on

Is gw LOWERING its prices for new releases??

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trying to make a 2000 pts list of sylvaneth
Not sure if I should switch the treelord and a wych with durthu

>>51499519
they have been adjusting prices for the last year or so. afaik they arent allowed to reduce prices of already released boxes because of greedy stockholders but all the new Bargain-boxes they released seem to be an ongoing trend.

>>51499519
>Is gw LOWERING its prices for new releases??
The new LoC is $190 dollarydoos. There has been no change here.

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>>51499419

joke don't freak out.

>>51499002

The limited edition version of the first book. If you mean models I'm not really sure, possibly Silver Tower unless some out of print Fantasy models or models I feared would go out of print count.

>>51499035
>>51499121

February's WD says that something like this is coming out alongside the Stormcast battletome. They look like the normal Warscroll entries however, though I wouldn't be surprised if they cut out the pictures.

>>51499627
Same price as a Bloodthirster, so the price on large models hasn't gone up at least

>>51499650
They could just put the pictures on the reverse side of card. I would like to buy a pack of cards like these for Skaven or Nurgle

>>51499392
>>51499426

Because I have other, older minis and other games? There are a few shops in my area, neither of which have had any success getting things off the ground that isn't MtG.

>>51499469

I ran a few 40k games with a friend of mine at the main store, and no one was interested. We even have the starter box for both games assembled. It's not EDH, so no one cares.

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>>51499062
I don't plan on having a massive SC force, so i don't know if Marble would get that annoying but you might be right. If i were to do some knights type deal it's be very heavily inspired by Kingdom of Heaven style. Very lived in, not that shiny but clearly righteous like pic related

>>51499720
>Dead AoS and non-mtg games wasteland
Are you from Poland?

>>51499720
still no location because you know it will be easy for us to find a club.
Also dont bother now, you probably checked every location with a club and will post some shit tier nepal village.
Sell the box and never come back

>>51499519
yesterday 5 liberator was $40, tomorrow 10 liberator = $50..
so definetly something going on

>>51499944
Wait WHAT

Seriously??

I just bought 2 boxes of judicators, fuck

>>51499002
Verminlord

>>51499002
More grots

>>51499881

That's because I've ready posted my location in other threads. I'm in PA between Reading and KoP. Good luck. The last stuff I found online for either was from 5 years ago. There are 2 shops in my immediate area that have both failed. There's another an hour away that's all cards. They have a table setup, but the only people I've ever seen use it are me and my friend. We stopped going because it wasn't worth the trip. Everything else, including the nearest GW is nearly a two hour drive minimum.

I don't want to sell it. I want to use it.

>>51499852

Sadly, no, but I'm jealous when I read stories of people just walking into their LGS and people are just playing games. It blows my mind. Even years ago when we had a group, there was just a handful of us, but it was great.

>>51499323
>be me, years ago.
>start in 40k around the end of 3rd edition. Got the starter box with 10 Tacs, Land Speeder and Dark Eldar
>Collect off and on up until the beginning of 5th, amass a sizeable force ~3k points of SM
>Give up 'cause I can't stand most FLGS neckbeards, the GW store closed, nobody to play with regularly.
>Over a decade later. Friend is interested in getting into Fantasy. Has other friends also interested. Following the End Times and stuff
>Consider investing in a Khorne Daemons army to play both Fantasy and 40k
>AoS drops. Friends buy starter set. I see Stormcast Eternals. Lord-Castellant, Knight Azyros, Knight Heraldor, Paladin Protectors and Knights w/ Javelins fucking hit all of my weak spots
>Lanterns, Horns, Polearms.
>All of a sudden there's four of us building armies (Wanderers/Sylvanet, GA-Death, Fyreslayers/Nurgle/Stormcast Eternals/Skaven/Orruks and me with SE/Khorne Mortals-Daemons) as well as at least three more interested.
>Finally have a reason to buy, model and play even if I hate certain aspects of the over simplified rules.

Just pull the trigger and start building/painting them anon. Eventually your friends will rise to the occasion if they like what they see.

>>51500330
you need to push, and hard.
AoS exists in my area because one guy pushed it.

A little back before TGH, but after it dropped he would bring in full armies for others to play demo games with him. He brought in terrain, he'd host game nights, set up a big event for people to start building up armies from scratch over 6 months.

We now have 12 players, we had 2 before he started the push.

Im ready for my Nurgle tome

>>51500337

I have, man. I've built and and painted models there plenty of time. The last time I did some work there, I was painting up a test model, and know what I was asked? One group of DnD players asked if I would paint character models for them (which I would. Practice is practice), and then I was more or less harassed to play EDH for 3 hours. My shop owner ordered a bunch of terrain, which I also assembled there. Same thing. Bugged to play magic. I have even played a few games there with a friend from back in the day. People thought it was cool, but when I tried to sway them into playing, "nah that's not for me" or the ever faithful "too expensive man. I don't know how you can afford that stuff". Hell, my shop owner is trying to. Liquidate his stock because the bill on it is due and none of it is selling. He can't get rid of it at 30%, which is insane.

I'm baffled.

My other store is going to be doing a painting demo some time next month. Another store gave him a bunch of primed models and paint to use because they couldn't do anything with it. I'm not expecting much, but I'm hoping for the best. I'll be bringing a daemon Prince I've been saving, and hope to get some people interested.

>>51500537

We are man. I don't know how much harder I can push. If people aren't interested, they're not interested.

>>51499323
>not touching a sylvaneth battlegroup box
>Went to warhammer world when these came out.
>Sylvaneth battlegroup sold out by the time I got out of the exhibit
My envy of your posession is transmuted to wrath at your lethargy.

>>51500002
you can't resell without loosing half value, if you JUST bought the you can return them

>>51500674

It's a curse. I don't pretend to enjoy it, but it's getting hard to find the motivation for any of my models. I'm legit considering just packing everything up at this point. It's a depressing kind of depressing.

>>51500700
I bought and built them in less than 2 days

FUCK

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>>51500002
yes everything is going to be half price

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>>51499015
>>51499049

My poor lighting makes it look like there is a blob of white above the right arm just below the shoulder but it's just light reflecting off of glue I think. I need to work on his face, the hands, the gemstone on his belt, the tattoos. The more I look at him the more I want to change. Hope this picture isn't 3mb upside down, only got my phone for pictures.

I'll come back to him after I tried painting some of these pink horrors. They look like fun little fellows.

I am also incredibly slow, I was working on that ogroid every night for 2-3 hours for a week. It's been 10 years since I last painted anything.

>>51500743
Is there anything Kevin cannot do?

>>51500890
Looks really good dude.
Love the shades of color on the staff.

>>51500541
You're gonna get yours last. Slaanesh is most certainly up next since there's that whole 40k event going on and nurgle got their new set of models first

>>51501025
killing all WHFB fag, sadly.

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>>51500890
I have another angle, it looks like the gem stone is just base coated green. In retrospect ... I think I may have actually forgot to do anything to it. I don't have a clue how to paint a gemstone.

I was following "the war gamer" guide on YouTube, I'm not sure he went over the gemstone now that I think on it.

>>51500743
e-even the stardrake?

I literally just complained to my friend yesterday that stormcast were too expensive for the lists I built. This is amazing news.

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What are you working on /aosg/

>>51501127
I saw a vid of this guy painting and he used lahmian medium to thin down paints when he wanted smooth transitions in skin tone. You should give that a try.

>>51501198
deciding between painting up my Saurus Guard covenversion, painting up my trog, or doing the conversion of cold ones into salamanders.

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>>51499002
Pic related was first gw mini i ever got. Box of dwarf warriors.

Forgive bad camera, i am drunk.

>>51500743

What is this shit? What's getting lowered why? I'm confused.

I have an extra ogre body from the battalion box since leadbelchers squad size is 3 not 4, should i make a tyrant or a butcher?

>>51501386
Not that the boxes pictured have more models in them than the current boxes.

>>51501198
Just finished a Bray-Shaman, now back to Gors.

>>51501436
*Note

>>51501436

I honestly glaze over anything and everything TOTALLY-NOT-SPACEMARINES, so I noticed nothing different.

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Any know if there is a tutorial for this paint scheme?

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>>51498953

Is it just me, or pink horrors are absolutely busted in Hitherlands? You're basically getting a full-fledged wizard just for 14 points, add a herald of tzeentch and now you have a troupe of assblasters extraordinare.

So, a list would look like this:
>Herald of tzeentch
>Pink horrors x6 ( + iridescent one and a hornblower)
And you still have 6 points left, so you can hold onto them to buy a new pink horror later or just get a blue horror right now because why the fuck not.

Moreover, you can cut one pink horror and add a chaos familiar for 20 which puts you right at 150 points. In the end you have a big guy with +1 to casting and 5 little assholes with +2.

What are your thoughts /aos/? Are pink horrors actually broken, and if so, then how can we fix this?

>>51501198
Hinterlands dudes, probably stormcast, but I have to strip them, and I'm scare I will fuck it up

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For tzeentch chaos warrior anon, this was my attempt. Hope it's some use as a reference. Hoods are just green stuff.

>>51501088
And yet no tome

>>51501088
And nurge daemins got shit all

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>>51501198
I have like 15 hexwraiths without horses, so i'm working on a monty python-esque lot with either a person following them with coconuts on calv bases or just putting them on goofy flight stands.

When it comes to paladins should I max out on Starsoul Maces?

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>>51501088
>GW states multiple times officially that Ynnead reborn mean slaanesh will die
>GW actually make Ynnead model so we know for a fact that he will win vs slaashit
>Slaanshitfag damage control hard
>completely deny all evidence and official GW statement that both in 40k and AoS elves will BTFO slaanesh beyond recovery

>mfw Slaanesh finally die

>>51502350
yes.

>>51502350
On Retributors, yes. On Decimators and Protectors, no.

Protectors, no because you're giving up your awesome 3 inch range.

Decimators, no because decimators are meant to deal with hordes.

>>51502401
Good point, thanks

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>>51502352
This.

>>51502172
Still a release. I honestly doubt GW cares that much about the difference.
>>51502209
Where'd the horses go?

>>51502445
Wasn't the "Birth" botched as fuck though?

>>51502449
Had a bunch of black knights built for a funsies everyone on a horse list.

>>51502477
Well at least you picked the right units to have randomly floating
Maybe try jetbike bases?

>>51502498
I'm gonna put them on proper Cavalry bases like they would be, i'm just either going to wire or flight stand them all.

What's the most essential lore to read(or watch or listen to) to get the Age of Sigmar setting?

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>>51502445
>>51502461
the prebirth was tampered with

the prophesy says that all eldar have to die for this to work

Eldrad is fucking himself and his race over by tampering with this

the last time the eldar birthed a god it wrecked the entirety of their species and their own gods, why do they think this will end any better? I can't wait to see how they fuck this up too.

>>51502709
why did he tamper with it?

>>51502709
Nope, in the white dwarf previews they straight up say that slaanesh is going to suffer some huge loss thanks to the other chaos gods pretty much doing the same thing to him they did in AoS. I wouldn't be surprised if slaanesh goes missing/is diminished and the Aelves storyline ties in really soon with all this.

>wrath of magnus comes out dealing with tzeentch in 40k
>new tzeentch army a few weeks later for AoS
>fracture of Beil tan dealing with eldar and slaanesh
New aelves soon?

>>51502816
I don't understand why GW is making such a concerted effort to marginalize one of the big 4

>>51502782
To awaken Ynnead all Eldar needed to die. Eldrad did a ritual to awaken Ynnead sooner without the need for all Eldar to die.

>>51502461
A shard of Ynnead was born. The new Ynnari faction is trying to awaken the rest.

>>51502816
>>wrath of magnus comes out dealing with tzeentch in 40k
>>new tzeentch army a few weeks later for AoS
>>fracture of Beil tan dealing with eldar and slaanesh
>New aelves soon?

Seems likely. A friend and I think so too, given the Magnus/Tzeentch release schedule.

It could also just be coincidence, but themed releases aren't impossible.

>>51502833

There is nothing really saying that Slaanesh in 40k will suffer anywhere near the same fate as in AoS.

Slaanesh is intertwined with the Eldar and is their number one foe, so she has to suffer somewhat for Ynnead's premature birth to mean anything. There is also the possibility that GW will use this as an excuse for the 13th Black Crusade to run into unexpected hiccups as the various daemons and god aligned forces become more concerned with shitting on each other.

>>51502833
Sex is hard to sell in a children's game. Best to keep it swept under the rug and focus on the hyperviolence instead. It's a good, safe, managerial decision.

>>51502833
this is the most involved and relevant slaanesh has been to anything recently. If anything he's getting more exposure now than ever before.

>>51502918
>13th Black Crusade to run into unexpected hiccups
Probably, I think after the gathering storm trilogy, 40k is going to be more like AoS where the chaos gods are ascendant and likely going to win, but theres a chance for the other forces to push them back. Instead of 40k going the way of fantasy, i think its going the way of the mortal realms during the age of chaos. Pockets of resistance still holding out, and forces of various factions gathering fr a counter attack as the gods grow complacent and turn on each other.

>>51502657
theres like 10Hours of audiobooks in the ressoruce

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>>51502709
Easy, to know who is going to win you just look at which one got massive resource and development time allowed to make new models and create molds....

So yeah, sorry Slaanehsfags

>>51502976
>this is the most involved and relevant slaanesh has been to anything recently. If anything he's getting more exposure now than ever before.
wow, damage control with no argument and ignoring thousands of proofs

>>51502833
Maybe the fact he is outsold 10:1 since ever ? No need to marginalized something when the last time you saw it on the tables was 1992

>>51502978
Which one do I start with?

>>51503141
From the top one to the last one in the folder

didn't they really fuck up the series and produce god awful models and all that?

>>51503178
No.

Story is 50/50 with the community as far as I can tell.

Models are much better.

>>51499519
Unless I'm mistaken, they actually raised the prices on the Tzeentch Daemons. For example, I'm certain that Pink Horrors were $30 instead of the $35 on preorder. As far as I'm aware they're just being repackaged too. I'd be pleased if somebody proved me wrong, however.

>>51503420
even if it's the case it's a small change and they have been murdering the prices across all range since the new CEO.

Hey guys, coming in from 40k, Aelves aren't going to get me as much shit as my Eldar did, are they?

What are they like?

>>51503478
It just feels annoying to be charged more for a box change. Heck it feels like it's just to boost the upcoming SC's total value.

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Why does those guys exists ?
I mean, dont get me wrong, they kick ass but they look like jack of all trades with no specific purpose..

>>51503669
With Disruptive Fire they can bring utility and between the volume of shots at short range and the melee of both riders and dracoths they make for solid infantry mulchers.
Also, the Lightning Echolon battalion is amazing.

>>51503420
Didn't they went from 10 to 20 in a box?

>>51502657
Just look at the front box art.

>>51503669
The GHB nerfed them. In a single model unit their disruptive fire is awesome.

Is Clan Eshin a thing in AoS?
If so, how are they?

>>51504008
They are a thing but they are awful on their own. You'll want to combo their better elements with Verminus, then they are solid-ish.

>>51498953
Is Hinterland from GW, or is it fanmade?

>>51499002
A lord of plagues. I already had models from WHFB. So I didn't need that much at first.

>>51500743
I just spoke to the local store owner about this repack, apparently Liberators are now MIN 10 and cost "the same as chaos warriors" in matched play. At least, he was told that by his GW rep.
No info on Judicators or Prosecutors, though.

>>51504008
Not really. They did get a new unit/hero with the Deathrunner. However, their infantry is old as fuck and looks hideous. End Times also gave them a big monster in the form of Verminlord.

So more of a support faction at the moment. You could just run a mixed list and paint your clan rats in shadowy theme but I wouldn't run them as a mono faction list.

Skryre is the hot shit for Skaven at the moment since Stormfiends are quite nice ap apparently

>>51504166
Fanmade.

>>51504166
Fanmade, but they guy did a pretty stellar job on the graphic design of the document.

>>51504182
>>51504185
It's really well done, I had to ask because it looked "too" good to be fanmade at first

>>51504234
would be great if he could release his assets like the backgrounds and fonts so we could use them to make our stuff nice and good looking as well.

>>51500619
>He can't get rid of it at 30%, which is insane.
Buy that shit and resell, especially if he still has cool (=limited/OOP) things

>>51504234
That was also my first reaction, and apparently is the overall consensus as well.
GW should probably hire this guy as a freelancer, that's some very solid game design coupled with serious visual design chops. I could see myself paying a couple of bucks for that.

Guys, I'm working on a small campaign document based on the GHB and the Gate of Stars campaign they shared on the Warhammer community website.

I would like to implement a dynamic alliance rule. Here's what I currently have but I'm not sure if really like it yet. Forming an alliance should be rewarding, but breaking one should have a certain cost to it, without the cost being so high that nobody would ever break them.

>Players can form an alliance at the start of every campaign month and will gain the following advantages:
> - Shared bonuses from the map locations
> - Merged pool of CPV and DP (these are the campaign currencies)

> You can break your alliance at either the start or end of each campaign month.
> - Players will forfeit their starting threshold for campaign map locations (the amount of DP you get a the start of a month for controlling it in the previous month
> - The shared CPV of players will be divided equally among members of the Alliance, or reset to the amount which an individual player had before the alliance was formed if said amount is higher.

> DP is the currency to capture territories
> CVP is the overall point score for winning the campaign.
> Names are WIP

>>51501388
Pls respond

>>51504265

He doesn't. He just got the standard GW stockpile they peddle shops.

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I was looking to add some Marauders Horsemen to my army of Slaves of Darkness, but then I saw the Hellstriders

I didn't even know this unit existed kek

Is it me, or Hellstriders are just plain better than Marauder Horsemen?

I mean, javelins are nice, but those guys are faster, stronger and more resilient.

>Someone has played them with success? Are they as good as they seems?
>I can give them both banners in the same unit, right?
>Should I, if I choose to get them, get the Lord on Daemonic Steed too? My Lord of Chaos command ability won't affect them because they are not Slaves of Darkness.

>>51504498
Get on that butcher life son
Get your great Maw on

>>51504350
No feedback from anyone? Want to finish the draft before Sunday so I can share it with my gaming group

>>51504265
Does he sell online. Because if he does, I will be all over that shit

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>Playing with current army is satisfying and ok
>Want to start a new one but having not enough money
>Don't want to sell old army because I like it to much
>To busy to take up a job for next 5-6 months
Well, fuck me. Maybe GW will release some nice shit and spending money would be a bad idea right now

>>51505397
What army are you currently playing Anon?

>>51499655
Slightly higher. The Standard Bloodthirster is $170 AUD, so it's $20 more.

>>51505407
SoD Skavens, like 90% of newbies right now. Picked two skaven part, borrowed a lightning cannon and having a lot of fun in casual games against Aelves, Khorne and other newcomers' armies. Right now I'm torn between SCE (all this new stuff looks good, I like what GW is doing with them) and Nurgle Daemons (idiot-proof, pleasing to paint, easy to build for newbie like 2x SC! Box and go)

>>51499002
The starter. I bought it on the first day, too.

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>>51505486
Go with Nurgle! Nothing wrong with some god ol papa Nurgle

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>Tfw your spooky skellingtons arrive and you start building your deathrattle army

>Still waiting for my hexwraiths tho.

>>51505486
Did you paint the SoD armies? And why not continue with Skaven? You can easily add Nurgle units to it while still having an army to play with.

>>51505668
Sadly, I have not enough time to paint them properly. To many things to do at uni, but in 2-3 weeks I'm gonna start painting - it's the best part of the hobby IMO.
>You can easily add Nurgle units to it while still having an army to play with
I thought that daemons would have a better synergy in pure-daemon list than in mix with skaven. They are only sharing a CHAOS keyword IIRC

>>51505742
Better, but still playable. Or you can use the deamons for summoning untill you have an army of deamons. In my opinion it's better to have two armies from the same grand alliance then 2 armies from different grand alliances. You could also mix the nurgle units with clan pestilens. It just gives you more options.

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Hey guys. New. What are the different flavours of Aelves, how does each play and would it be better to try and make an army of one faction or combine for an Aelf army?

>>51505798
>You could also mix the nurgle units with clan pestilens
You are surely right. At first I was thinking about buying a SC! box for screaming bell, lightning cannon and plague priest to expand my double SoD army and selling plague priests to have more money for paints

>>51505853
Combining is the way to go at the moment I think. There are a lot of different flavors. Check the OP Pastebin for info from the general's handbook.

>>51498953
Have any of you made any cool warbands with this yet? What are the names of your dudes in the warband, what level are they, etc...

>>51503054
Well if they would give Slaanesh some new models i'm sure people would buy them.

>>51506089
What would be a cool theme for the Hosts of Slaanesh faction?

We already have the hellstriders. How can we expand that like they did with the Tzeentch Arcanite faction. Slaangors would be a bit lazy since we just did that with Tzeentch.

>>51506089
Apparently the last Slaanesh models, those chariots, were not selling at all, so I'd not be so sure about that.

>>51502352
well its just generally a dick move to retcon an entire Army.

>>51506116
The whole range of newer slaanesh was way worse than the older one. People would definitely buy it, if daemonettes wouldn't look like fucking banshees.
See prices for old daemonettes and raging heroes ks.

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Could somebody explain the point of the Fatemaster to me? I am putting together a Disciples of Tzeentch army and I cannot make heads or tails of this guy. He's got mediocre melee and a shit command ability, so both his durability and his speed seems mostly wasted.
Everything he can do can probably done better by other units, right?

>>51506116
thats because they are absokuteky terrible to build and paint equallyif any of those wheels is glued slightly angled you fucked up the build

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Is there any search engine for AoS keywords? I would like to find all units with, e.g., Aelf keyword

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>>51502352
Mfw the horned horned one is official chaos god-thing now

>>51506424
>Tfw Hashut left in the dark but at least he's not removed like Slaanesh

>>51505417
Theyre the same price in canuckbucks

>>51506472
>malal

>>51506645
kek'd

>>51499035
>>51499121

Why couldn't you make your own cards? I'm actually considering making these for my little brother and myself for our armies (he's new to gw stuff, I played faba and 40k over 10 years ago, just getting back into the hobby with AoS).

Seem like handy cards, I'd be happy to share the cards I make with you lot if that's something you'd like? Going for Lizardmen, and littlebro going for Vampire Counts.

>>51506645
Love it. Keep it up!

>>51506736
>Why couldn't you make your own cards?
Who said I'm not making customs? I just said that they would be a neat extra content in AoS boxes

>>51506073
I'm making one right now. It's going to be a chaos warband with slaves to darkness and Beastmen. I am not good with names though. Any help with that would be awesome!

>>51506194
taking out backline supports, as he can charge over and survive the crackback.
Taking and holding objectives.
holding a good artifact.
Sitting in the middle of a group providing the +2 bravery bonus from the battletome.

And I don't think his command ability is as shit as you say. You have 33% chance of getting the equivelent of "reroll 1s on to hit, to wound, and saves" on every unit within 9" which would be a boss trait. even on a 3 that's probably the same as reroll 1s on at least 2 of those things. And on 5s and 6s gives extra defense against battleshock which you need.

For all that he's not very expensive

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>>51505853

This was in the last thread with a combined list.
>>51491847

With where the end times left off it is very fluffy to do a combined elves army. Malekith united the elves under one flag with Alarielle for the final battle.

Beyond fluff reasons a combined elf force allows you to bring all the best toys from all three factions.

Out of all the elf battleline options Darkshards score the highest for overall efficiency. None of the elf battleline is great compared to the new releases but at least darkshards have a 5+ armor save re-rolling 1s and 2s in addition to a 2 shot ranged attack for good volume of fire.

The only actual successful elves lists I've ever put together are the one I linked above and the Exiles Blood cult.

The key to making a strong list in age of sigmar is to make sure every unit in your list is there for a reason and doing something important. Your list needs to be tight in the sense that it doesn't have any dead weight. Consider the size of the board you'll be playing on and how you will deploy those units you choose. There is likely to be limited surface area to engage in combat so think about what units you want in those combats and think about what units you will use to buff and support your units in combat.

Try to identify potent synergies and buff combinations to really amplify the strengths of the units in your army, the list I linked is strong because it is a buffing cross synergetic machine with very efficient defined rolls for every unit in the army and it has to be played very intelligently or it will fail. (but that's the kind of thinking mans army that I enjoy).

The thing is that all of this advice applies to building any army, not just elves.

The warscroll battalions included at the back of the three elves compendiums offer some good starting points if you are well and truly lost. But be careful because they are not all created equal and some are much better than others.

Good luck!

>>51506194
the command ability lord of fate.
Take archaeon and three of these guys to have rerolling everything for everyone (well just about).

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After learning of how worthless the plaguesmog is, heres my new list. Censer priest is swapped for warpstone staff with another favour of gods.

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Another from the rumour engine.

>>51507682
>filename
It's Stormcast Dwarf war machine

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>>51507655
Like this here

>>51507682
>that gear
WHAT THE FUCK HOW DOES THAT WORK

>>51507728
Looks like a door lock, to me.

a dumb one, but still

>>51507728
Magic, m8. High fantasy, magnets n shiet

>>51507728
Gear is turned, which moves the piston. Trust me here, I'm a MecE

>>51507728
It's a vault door. The central piece rotate counterclockwise (probably thanks to a wheel on the other side) and push the three piece out locking the door. It's pretty sound.

>>51507780
>It's a vault door.

Dorf moving bunker confirmed

>>51507858
>Dorf moving bakery confirmed
FTFY

>>51506987
Fought him twice. Can confirm he's a handy fucker. First game he held up a squad of chaos warriors for three rounds, giving and taking fuck all damage. Second game he zoomed onto objective and sat on it for three rounds until I hellcannon'd him to oblivion, opponent winning the game with 1 point because of it.

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>>51507728

It's a door lock.

>>51507165
10/10 advisement.

>>51507682
>>51507903
So, it's an Empire stuff?

>>51507889
just occured to me that his command ability is a good way to use the 1's and 2's you might get for destiny dice in a DoT army.

Reroll 1s for hit, wound, and saves for all units within 9" is pretty boss. And rerolling 2s is almost as good as that.

>>51508068
Too bad his command trait cannot grant rerolls for tzaangors.

>>51508068
You can't use the destiny dice for that.

>>51508123
keep him near the kairic acolytes then. or Slaves of darkness in DoT.

>>51508178
fuck, your right. keep forgetting that while the list is massive, it's not everything.

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>>51504350
This seems like it gives a really big advantage to alliances. I'd tone down the advantages of forming an alliance, like removing the ability to share map bonuses. I personally prefer a simpler system, as it creates a lower barrier to entry, which is important, especially when running campaigns. Here's a map campaign I'm running: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-T9WpY3Q6aWn98V3SuOJUp5SbqZcQ_cIPBDTn5ZtsFo

>>51502075

Thanks man, appreciate the reference pic. My greenstuff skill is non existent but practice and all that. I understand now why people were hoping for updated warrior models for the different gods, they are quite aged looking compared to the new stuff.

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So there will be no streams on twitch until February 3rd?

>>51507682
Escape hatch on Steam punk dwarden mechanical walker thing or zeplin

>>51507903
Arrow on the bottom gear is wrong.

Carnosaur/Troglodon no longer available on US site? Not even an option to get a in stock email. I wonder if they are doing something to those models?

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>>51507714
>using pestilens

Does anyone play seraphon here? I was debating picking up a slann to go alongside kroak for more relaxed open play matches.Would that be too much? Should I alternate instead? Id be going up against a pretty tough khorne army so I figure that any bit would help

>>51507165
Thanks man.

>>51509400
>slann to go alongside kroak

>for more relaxed open play matches

how is this in any way a relaxed list?

>>51509729
it's just the average seraphon waacfag.

>>51509400
Sure, if you wanna be the town jackass

>>51509729
>>51509744
>>51509808
In the way that Both my opponent and I field whatever the hell we want and just duke it out. Yknow, the whole point of open play. My opponent has Archaon, Skarbrand, Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster, and the daemons and skull cannon you get from the start collecting khorne. So chill with the negativity.

>>51509879
We get paranoid around here, especially with seraphon players

>>51509966
Just wait for their updated tome

>>51505078
I work in a FLGS an I didn't know about hellstriders until someone ordered some.

>>51508932
Its a chastity lock

>>51510027
Oh I am, would love to get some updated modles, Sotek knows they need a better cold one

>>51510342
Gw is upgrading their current business model?

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post yfw gw finally gave square bases to 40k

>>51510581
Why did this make me laugh so much. What the fuck.

>>51510581
Why? I don't really have any opinion, but why... It's definitely a specialist thing if it's real

>>51510581
Co ta łamana polszczyzna, ja pierdolę. W Polsce B nadal nie przerzucili się z rosyjskiego na paljacki?

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some more progress on the steroid. Painting these runes whilst not difficult in itself is turning into quite a hassle

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>>51510688

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From tonights game 3k bretonnia vs 3k ironjaws

>>51510581
I can't speak hussar.

>>51505567
>dices

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>>51510709

>>51510581
kurwa

>>51510785
Needs more terrain. That said, keep it coming. Report when?

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I just bought the Storm of Sigmar box and I noticed that the Retributors have "Rend -1" listed on their weapon profile. What does this mean? The manual doesn't explain.

>>51510849
There are four (4) pages of rules for AoS. Read them again, slowly.

>>51510849
Rend is the weapons ability to "ignore armor". Basically take the characteristic and add it to the targets armor save for any attacks with that weapon.

Ex: Retributitor hits and wounds blood warrior with 1 attack. Blood warriors have a 4+ save. 4+1= 5. The blood warrior must now roll a 5+ to save

>>51510849
The rules have 4 pages. Is it really that difficult to read them?

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Fellow Anons, I need your advice.
Right now I have 2 Archmages, 2 High Wardens, 10 Reavers, 20 Spireguardians and 20 Swordmasters, so two sets of Spire of Dawn.
For 1000 points games I can just add 10 to spireguard unit and still use the Guardians of the Dawnspire battalion (980pts total). What should I buy next to play bigger games? My LGS is very casual so don't need anything OP - just something that will work with models I already have.

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>>51510785
The army
King Louen
Fey enchantress
Green Knight
Lord of Bretonnia
Damsel
paladin on foot
5x Grail knights
16x Kotr
32x MAA
6x Pegasus
32x Peasant
1x trebucket
and Peasant militia

it was basically everything I own

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>>51510896
You are actually correct, it was craftily hidden under "save roll".

>>51510907

Thank you.

>>51510936
Get a Skywarden or a few Shadow Warriors. Both are great.

>>51510938
Qutz Book?

>>51506472
Forge world can do better sculpts for them anyways

So I mostly play 40k and was thinking about picking up an army of Daemons so I could have something to play for this also. The new Tzeentch stuff looks cool as hell. Anyone know a list that'd be relatively good in both games without too much tax that'd tend to be only used in one game or another?

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>>51510833
Well basically he got first turn and moved up with his herophase move but didnt make the important charges. This allowed me to get my 2+ to hit army wide bonus (king,lord,Kotr,grail and pegasus all got the charge off) combined with the peaseant archers using their once per battle ability I 1shot one of the gordrakks turn one and wiped a squad of brutes + one squad of goregruntas with the charges.
This allowed me to snowball into lategame and take the game pretty easy

>>51511049
FW quality is hit or miss honestly. Their new wolves look god awful

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>>51511139
>bretonnia player field a full painted army
>Ironjaw player still hasn't painted A SINGLE model

That's why in our FLGS an unpainted model cost twice the point of the painted one.
Everyone like this houserule, even grey tide waacfaggot since they get motivated to paint

>>51510907
While this is functionally correct, its better to think of modifiers (rend and otherwise) as affecting the roll, not affecting the target.
Rather than your 4+ save becoming a 5+ save, you now actually need to roll a 5 to pass a 4+ save, since 4-1=3, which fails, but 5-1=4, which passes.

Treating all modifiers this way helps keep everything consistent, as well as explaining abilities that require a certain roll to succeed. If you have an ability that triggers on a save roll of 6+, you can never pass it against a weapon with a rend value, unless another ability adds to the save roll, in which case you apply them all to find the 'net' modifier.

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>>51510936
First of all ditch the idea of running things as "swifthawk agents" and use all the "Highborn" warscrolls from the compendium. Then add 3 (maybe 2) of the Lotheren Sea Helms and one High elf dragon lord for your General.

That's the best way to turn that starter box collection up from a 6 out of 10 to an 8 or 9.

>>51511271
From a strictly crunch standpoint you are correct. That's literally how the rules are written. But in my experience (and members of my lgs agree) applying the manager to the roll just makes things more confusing. It's easier to have mystic shield give me a 3+ save, instead of saying 3+1 is 4 therefore I pass.

It's something that works for my group but I won't argue that you are objectively correct

>>51511032
Well, I see why Skywarden would be a good choice with two High Wardens in army but Shadow Warriors? I mean, Spireguard seems to be a better unit

>>51511254
Those look painted, anon. Dark metal armor and all.

Whats the most common point range to play? Whats the cost associated with each range, roughly, and wheres the best place to really understand phases and rules? I tried to assemble a list but I dont know enough yet.

>>51511423
The rules are four fucking pages. Four! Read them!

>>51511423
look at the GHB in the OP

>>51511423
1k and 2k seem most common with a lot of people rallying for more 1k armies. 1.5k has been seeing some tournament play. Once in a while you'll have crazies playing 2.5k or 3k.

Read the 4 pages of rules. Then read the additional 2.5 pages in the general's handbook.

Which faction should I play if I want to crabwalk and REEEEEEEEEEEE at the table?

>>51511504
what does this even mean ?

>>51511319
Oh, I didn't know I can use compendium even if different rules are attached to model on GW store site or there is updated warscroll in box

>>51511517
if you check the Rules FAQ on the GW website it says you can use any version of the warscroll for any unit, not just the most recent.

Does anyone know where I can find the fluff for Chaos Dwarves in Grand Alliance: Chaos I know its not digital and its cheep but I'm not buying something just for 2 pages of fluff

>>51505078
they are amazing! a good strike team to finish wounded units and if they stay competent until say turn 3 they become monsters with their ecstacy buff, and the mounted slaanesh lord only makes them deadlier

>>51509966
>>51510027

New tome when?

>>51511595
>"and its cheep"
>It would cost me 10 hours of my work
Sometimes I feel like I'm living in Africa, not Europe

>>51511504
Slaves to darkness, take Soul-grinders and move them side-ways only

You can REEEEE every time they miss because most of their shit is one shot and hits on a 4+

>>51511595
I'm not sure they even mention them in the Chaos Battletome

>>51511595
chaos dwarf are not in grand alliance chaos. Everything chaos dwarf related is available for free on forgeworld

>>51511636
I'm sorry but if you make 2euro an hours, this is not the hobby for you, and you are definitely within the definition of poverty in many country,

>>51510785

>unpainted models

disgrace

>>51511595
You're probably best off going into a GW, having a browse (they may have a store copy for people to look through) and seeing if there actually is enough fluff to make it worth your money.

>>51510785
uggh i hate seeing primed armies play vs fully painted ones

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>>51511702
They were worth my money from reading the fluff and seeing those gorgeous models on FW's website

>>51510936
I thought spire of dawn came out to 940 points for the aelves. So in 1000 you can't add anything. If you take 2 of the same battalion your at 1880 and really can't add anything either.if you don't take either battalion you save 80 points and can take another unit of swordmasters if you can get your hands on them

>>51511595
The fluff for chaos dwarves is in the tamurkhan book, which is oop, so check ebay or look for a scan or something

>>51510737

I really like your scheme man, i posted mine earlier in the bread. I really struggled with the tattoos to be honest, i did find it quite difficuilt and constantly was having to rego over them to fix the spillages. Then i put to much wash over it and it kind of looked the same colour as the skin like i hadnt even done them anyway...

Looking forward to seeing more of your dudes and this guy further along.

>>51511816
Thanks! Yeah the tatoos are a pain, and i'm not entierly done with them yet either, but I hope to eventually finish him sometime this week.

Yours looked great too, by the way!

>>51511130

Going off of this, I had this idea for a 2000 pt army

Lord of Change

1x Herald of Tzeentch

3 20-man blobs of horrors

2 3-man squads of Screamers

2 3-man squads of Flamers

Changehost

Splitting seemed overrated compared to just buying Blues which I didn't feel the need to, but if I'm doing something grossly wrong I'd appreciate being told that

>>51511843
That list is on the weak side, but then i don't know if the equivalent in 40k is op or not. I know in 40k you don't pay any point for splitting pink horror so i guess you'll do good
if you go changehost, go with the changeling so you can teleport anywhere

>>51511254

We have a couple of different things that we roll on when considering unpainted vs painted.

D3 for one of these:

a) unpainted models cost double to field
b) unpainted models can't benefit from painted models auras (and vice versa)
b) opposing team gets bloodthirsty and angry at the ugly unpainted models and gain rerolls on all 1 and 2 rolls on D6

>>51511882
What would a stronger list look like?

>>51511322
Like I said, you're functionally correct, so it doesn't really matter at all how you think it through so long as all players arrive at the same result. When I roll dice I'm basically doing the same thing "I'm looking for 5s to pass." The only thing is to make sure that new players know that they can't succeed with gore fists or what-have-you, against rending weapons.

But ultimately, whatever works for your group is what you should do.

>>51511924
not him but what is the pool of models ?
What do you have ? What do you plan to buy ? I guess you rule out any AoS only model even if they bring much needed support to demon ?

>>51511753
>I thought spire of dawn came out to 940 points for the aelves
>Archmage 120
>High Warden 220
>Reavers 160
>Spireguard 120
>Swordmasters 200
>Battalion 40
= 860pts m8
Also
>if you don't take either battalion you save 80 points and can take another unit of swordmasters if you can get your hands on them
I'm not sure if possibility to move a unit or shoot in hero phase is worth it

>>51511569
I had no idea, thanks. Has Lothern Sea Helm gained any new fancy name in AoS?

>>51512082
Last time I checked spire guard were 200

>>51512043
I'd like to take as few of those as possible, though if they're pretty much mandatory then I could make do. I'm rather totally new to Sigmar so I just want to see what's kicking around honestly

>>51499002
Start Collecting Ironjawz

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>>51512082

>>51511687
> this is not the hobby for you
I can't agree with you. Every hobby like this is ok if you can keep it budget or playing with people in the same situation. Yeah, earning 2,5euro per hour as a student sucks but SC! box costs me a little less than 50 euro. It's not impossible to save money for two boxes and having a lot of fun playing vanguard but you have to think three times about every redundant purchase like GA or GHB yup, I'm poorfag but still I have bought a GBH after 3 2 months of using PDF. I can't support LGS much after buying the most important models but it's something

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>>51512110
then the best is to stay 1K honestly, then its pretty straightforward, and you can see if AoS is something you like

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>>51500743
PRAISED BE HIS NAME!

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>>51512129
>>51512107
Good job, GW

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>>51512129
Post YFW 10 spireguards are more expensive than 10 Judicators (that are going to cost 180/10 in the next battletome

>>51512243
>120/10
>more than 180/10
?????

>>51512110
Just buy 2 SC tzeentch deamon and a LOC then, and only play 1K games, it will be much better honestly

>>51512243
What is more important are the Pitched Battle Profiles.

>First off, the 200 points for Spireguard you saw in the app is a typo. The Swordmasters are 200 points, the Spireguard 120. The Spireguard are also Battleline if you use the Swifthawk Agents allegiance.
https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/2016/12/16/review-spire-of-dawn/

>>51499002
Silver Tower.

>>51512272
Did you look at what the post is answering to ?

>>51512275
>https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/2016/12/16/review-spire-of-dawn/

Since when does the review of a faggot in a basement overrule GW official rules and app ?

>>51512321
Did you see my pic from Spire of Dawn rules? >>51512224

>>51512224
Hmmm I wonder which is correct

>>51512339
So ? Gw updated the app but can't update the box printed 4 month ago

>>51511886
don't be a dick and just request people be making continued progress in their painting.
The only good rule.

>>51512360
The app has said 200 since spire of dawn came out, I thought they were over priced I'll have to ask the guys that run the aos fb page, they answer very quickly to stuff like this

>>51512355
If you want I can ask them on FB or whatever public profile they run, maybe they will reply. I don't know how is your app but mine is broken, with outdated warscrolls even after re-installation.

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What the most space marines like army you can do with stormcasts?

>>51510027
Don't tease me anon, but ive a feeling they're not getting one. They have no new models so GW isntt going to bother.

>>51512407
Well I asked them too so they will probably think we have an argument

>>51512541
>What the most space marines like army you can do with stormcasts?
>proceeds to make an army that is nothing like space marines
What did he mean by that?

>>51501561
My guess: paint grey, wash, apply a slightly lighter grey with drybrush to give stony look. Paint dark cracks, then paint the white lines right below the cracks.

Make sure it is really clean or it will look messy.

>>51512372
>don't be a dick and just request people be making continued progress in their painting.
>The only good rule.

And also the rule that doesn't work since the 90's.

unpainted models costing twice as much make people paint their army within 2 weeks from experience.
Not because of the disadvantage, but more because by this, they end up playing against only greytide only, and even greytiders dont like facing grey armies

>>51512129
>>51512224

Spire Guard, or as they were known before, Lotheren Sea Guard are not worth 200 points.

By the math they are not even worth 120 points either compared to the other elf battleline options.

>>51512082
>Has Lothern Sea Helm gained any new fancy name in AoS?

I don't believe so. The only way to buy him is to buy one of the Skycutter Chariots (the flying chariot pulled by a giant eagle), he comes as an extra model in the box. Or just proxy something cool looking and appropriate, no one is going to care.

>>51510581
Can some polnon please translate?

>>51512573
He probably mean that there isnt rhino spam in AoS yet.

>>51512573
Heh, try to do better with current SE models, that's the point of my post.

>>51512601
Is there any Aelf allegiance battleline for this moment? SoD gave us a Swifthawk Agents and Eldritch Council one. It's like you are forced to use a battalion to don't break the allegiance

>>51512561
They might make some....

>>51507682
Cool, about time the stormcast got some more 'high tech' warmachines to balance out all the monsters and gryphs.

>>51512609
I'm from Poland and I can't translate it properly - it looks like translated by google translator from 2010.
>Limited edition with collectible cards
>Six strong armies and a lot of possibilities to run them
>Army organisation scheme determinet by it's quantity
>Swift and intense attack phase

>>51512657
>any Aelf allegiance battleline for this moment

I think the right move is to take the "spireguard" and field them as "Lotheren Sea Guard" with the warscroll from the High Elves Compendium for 120 points per unit. Run everything from the "Spireguard" box starter set with the "highborn" substitute warscrolls from the compendium and forget about swifthawk agents and eldritch council since they are inferior anyways.

>>51511254
We're not faggots that need to be bullied into painting shit. Fucking autistic shits telling people to paint faster because their army was fully painted because they had no job/girlfriend/friends. We had people like you in our old FLGS that kicked up a stink when someone put an unpainted toy on the table.

>but muh houserules
>I dont care that you bought it last week and work 12 hour hospital shifts.
>Muh Motivation

Drove so many people away when they started trying to enforce it in other people games.

>>51512736
Yeah, I know. I'm just curious if there is any other option for them but still, I will stick with highborn. Maybe one day a battletome for Aelves will clarify the situation

>>51512746
Except it drive people away from other shop to us, increased profit a lot, and all other shop have waacfag greytide tournament where not a single army is painted since 2005

>>51512657
Spearelves, Silver Helms, Bleakswords, Dreadspears, Darkshards, Glade Riders and Glade Guard. That's plenty.

>>51512600
>unpainted models costing twice as much make people paint their army within 2 weeks from experience.
really, because it makes people say fuck off and your area loses another player in my experience.
Or leads to a community composed of elitist dicks that non-dicks wouldn't want to join, thus leading to increasing dickishness.

Or maybe consider that people have very different amounts of times they can dedicate to painting. Throw in a prize for top painting, or have painting quality be tie breaker qualification if you need one.

>>51511886
>We have a couple of different things that we roll on when considering unpainted vs painted.D3 for one of these:a) unpainted models cost double to fieldb) unpainted models can't benefit from painted models auras (and vice versa)b) opposing team gets bloodthirsty and angry at the ugly unpainted models and gain rerolls on all 1 and 2 rolls on D6

wow that is... awful. How do you even get people to play games with you? I know I wouldn't want to and all my shits are painted.

>>51511886
I mean I don't like playing with or against unpainted stuff but you sound like the worst kind of autistic fucklord.

>>51512778
>any other option for them
I think you could get away with using the Sea Guard as a proxy for either standard High Elf Spearmen (80 points for 10 models I think) or standard High Elf archers (100 points for 10 I think). Since the Sea Guard have spears and bows on the model no one will care so long as you declare what they are during set up.

both high elf spearmen and high elf archers are battleline options with the "Highborn" key word.

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>>51512806
>Or maybe consider that people have very different amounts of times they can dedicate to painting. Throw in a prize for top painting, or have painting quality be tie breaker qualification if you need one.

Except greytiders arent people with no time, highschoolers or the girls from college, they are the people that come to play every week-end and wednesday, were more than 20hours/week in teh shop and still did not paint anything.
>H-he he comes 80hours/month in the shop for now 3 years, H-he is obviously a busy man!!!111! S-stop forcing him t-to paint!!

No need to justify myself, you like it or not, our shop grows like crazy while other shop become more and more empty.
We even employ people from other shop because we stole the customer base.

>>51512786
Why the fuck would I want to rush paint my army in 2 weeks just to play a game?

Your problem is not the models its the people.

Just tell waacfags to fuck off.

>>51501850
Hinterlands is a fan modification that dramatically scales down the original system with minimal rule changes, so it's inevitable that certain builds will be broken. It would be possible to nerf casting in general in Hinterlands, (Only 1 wizard per band?) But I wouldn't want to contaminate the hinterlands ruleset with unit-specific alterations.

>>51512952
>Why the fuck would I want to rush paint my army in 2 weeks just to play a game?

Where were you since the 90's man ? That's the only motivation to paint for most people. You are the 1% here

>>51512935
>Except greytiders arent people with no time, highschoolers or the girls from college, they are the people that come to play every week-end and wednesday, were more than 20hours/week in teh shop and still did not paint anything.
so they violate the 'show continous progress in your painting' rule, so get excluded from events until they change.
Hey look the rule I put out in the first place.

Your rule also punishes the people who don't have time to be paint everything, but paint when they can.

>>51511660

Absolutely perfect.

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>>51512935
>Our shop is the best
>it works very well
>We're beating all the other FLGS so much we have to steal their workers
>Tired of winning
>So much winning
>Build a wall to keep greys out

>>51512983
Except, instead of projecting and finding excuses like you most people go like :"sweet, I can't wait to play guys" And come a month later with everything done to TT level.

Again, it's proven, butthurt or not.

>>51513031
Sorry your shop is now empty Jerry

You cannot make people paint their models, but you can refuse to play them or let them enter tournaments with unpainted models.

Of course, they will probably slap paint on them and say "look, they have three colors on them like you required!"

You cannot change a WAACfag's mentality.

>>51513045
Congratulations, you turned painting as a hobby and something to enjoy to something you have to do before you can play with your friends.

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Are you using any custom terrains or objective rules to varying the gameplay? I'm thinking about something like supplies run with 5-7 of pic related located on game area. When you manage to capture one with your unit you roll d6 for some movement or attack bonuses, traps or you can just burn them without rolling so your opponent will stay with nothing

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>>51513065
>>51513065
>>51513065

>>51510938
>lantchips
Swedish?

>>51513045
>Again, it's proven, butthurt or not.
>I have a single anecdotal piece of evidence
>which is clearly superior to any anecdotal anyone else might have.
Also, literally no one plays at your shop who only has a couple hours a week to paint?
No one?
And you think no one is being kept from playing because of your rule?
And you think this will be true everywhere?

Everyone in my shop actively paints up their models when they can, and all we have is the requirement to be showing progress.
The asshole who had time but didn't paint, and was otherwise and asshole, stopped getting invited just because of that.

And we have less WAAC fags, because people aren't painting because they want to pay the least amount of points.

>>51513119
>And we have less WAAC fags, because people aren't painting because they want to pay the least amount of points.

we have 0 WAACFAG, they are all playing greytide in empty shops.
People are happy and motivated to paint.

Sure are a lot of paint-phobic grognards in here tonight

>>51511254
those are clearly painted and based models. full stop

>>51512196 >>51512110

This is good but the gaunt summoner is cheaper and better rules wise he also has the Daemon keyword to proc the horrors