Pathfinder General /pfg/

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Reminder that Jolly is not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need right now.

>>51469716
What do you mean?

>>51469667
> /pfg/
> Degenerate foxgirl in the OP
> Again and again, and again
Really makes you think

>>51469740
>the last one wasn't
>nor the one before that
You're out of your element, Donny.

>>51469667
/pfg/ Games
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65518/a-fluffy-fairy-tale-2-electric-boogaloo
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/66875/wrath-of-the-raunchy
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67687/the-sultanas-hot-slave-harem
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67490/fookin-sky-pirates
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67597/crusaders-n-shit
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67813/bathe-yourself-in-blood

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>>51469740
You want foxgirls? I got some.

>>51469740
Except that isn't degenerate? It's just cute and colorful? No lewd pose? It's a child? Also with a legitimate, non-lewd non-fetishy non-kitsune question?

Anon do you need a hug?

>>51469667
I avoid this because familiars and companions, while mechanically useful, are awful to manage and I keep wanting to kill myself if I have one.

I just pretend one of my party members is a familiar since one of them has a strange habit of constantly making Grippli PC's.

>>51469803
Get a shikigami kami familiar. Its merge with ward ability means that whenever a fight happens, it can poof out of existence, then reappear once the fight is over.

>>51469888
>>51469803

Different anon. I like the tattooed sorcerer for familiar issues.

So I'm about to start in a new game. Core only. Plan to play a wizard.

Do you think item creation feats are worth it? I always have heaps of trouble with caster feats.

Also can't decide on being a conjurer or a universalist.

>>51469916
Depends on the downtime you'll be allowed.

>>51469916
>Do you think item creation feats are worth it?

Absolutely. Putting aside the benefits of being able to make magic items custom tailored to your party, they also mean that you're doubling all the money used to create magic items.

>>51469916
If you go conjurer, make sure that you can play with summoned creatures without spending ten minutes every time you take a turn.

>>51469928
>>51469933
It has been described as a sandbox game, so i'm running under the assumption that we will have the time to craft things.

>>51469937
Yeah if I went conjurer I would probably print out all the stat blocks for the summonable creatures to save time.

>>51469979
Absolutely, then. Craft up 5 Cyclops Helms for your toughest melee striker and tell him to swap them out between crits.

How does pfg feel about automatic bonus progression or innate item bonuses

>>51470026
ABP is a good idea but with poor implementation.

The innate item bonus system linked in the pastebin is pretty good.

cursed razor style on harbinger a terrible idea? i was sort of taken with it at first but after thinking it over i don't think i'll need it between Malevolence and Grasp of Darkness

>>51470108
It's not bad. There's much worse you could go for, but for a harbinger you probably want to get more maneuvers known and readied.

Dark Allure/Authority are also pretty good.

>>51470136
i've been finding harbinger is full of great feats. almost too many.

>>51470204
Yep, that's Harbinger, alright.

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Stat me

How is the trove doesn't have the latest material yet?

>>51470319
Cayhound.
Stats are in Inner Sea Bestiary.

>>51470319
Size/Type: Large Magical Beast
Hit Dice: 5d10+25 (52 hp)
Initiative: +1
Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares)
Armor Class: 15 (-1 size, +1 Dex, +5 natural), touch 10, flat-footed 14
Base Attack/Grapple: +5/+14
Attack: Claw +9 melee (1d6+5)
Full Attack: 2 claws +9 melee (1d6+5) and bite +4 melee (1d8+2)
Space/Reach: 10 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Improved grab
Special Qualities: Scent
Saves: Fort +9, Ref +5, Will +2
Abilities: Str 21, Dex 12, Con 21, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 10
Skills: Listen +8, Spot +8
Feats: Alertness, Track
Environment: Temperate forests
Organization: Solitary, pair, or pack (3-8)
Challenge Rating: 4
Treasure: None
Alignment: Always neutral
Advancement: 6-8 HD (Large); 9-15 HD (Huge)
Level Adjustment: —

Is shalelu the town bike in sandpoint.

Who in Sky Pirates has the best character art thus far?

Going to be honest here I'm leaning DHB

>>51470497
DHB for game 2017

>>51470521
Guy hasn't done his back story or character yet.

>>51470497
What character? His application is almost completely empty. Like so many others.

>>51470528
1969 put a man on the moon
2017 puts a DHB in a game

>>51470534
Character art, not character most characters are empty

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This is your BBEG, wat do?

>>51470536
Does he really deserve a game? He's made the honorable mention 4 times now. Perhaps it is not honor!

>>51470541
The facial scaring leads me to believe she is a disguised undead. Guise of life serial killer ghoul vigilante.

>>51470541
Approach with caution. Those scars are just clues to the location of its toothy maw.

>>51470538
Oh, durr.

In that case, I like the tengu.

>>51470541

As a wizard I cannot underestimate the strength of any opponent. I set loose a magic contagion to blight the world and hide away in my own personal demi-plane forever.

>>51470541
Detect Evil!

>>51469716
Gotta agree, the guy's doing a lot to help meet people half way and is willing to take criticism, which is more than I can say for other devs.

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>>51470497
I've used that tengu picture before. A+ would recommend.

I might get another picture for Neboa. I feel it's too recognizable for the game.

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>2hu_makes_a_sky_pirate

>>51470541
Those scars hint she belonged to the Iron Maidens, Queen Ileosa's guard de corps, and by the glow on her hand she may be a magus with a touch spell ready to be discharged.

>>51470651
my sides

>>51470656

I know I'm ready to be discharged from her touch.

>>51470651
2hu prefers crossdressing foxboys though

>>51470651
>Can I use Agile Dancer?
>Can I use Orator?
>Can I use Blood Money?
>Can I use Fey Obedience?

>>51470666
>Handjob with vampiric touch.
>This kills the arsehanite paladin.

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>>51470673
>>51470651
>That is all excessive. You're building toward the focus of one stat and flexibility into other areas without consideration for theme or reasonable character creation. A character is more than just their stats.
>I've decided blood money is off the table completely. What is your goal and concept here? What are you making? I would prefer not to have to worry about whether someone is looking to try and steal the show. I would definitely prefer a character that makes sense, above all else. It looks like high linguistics with a lot of disguise and probably knowledges. How does Magdh fit in here?

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>>51470685
Be nice. It's kind of hard to expect a 2hubuild.

>>51470684

I'll just rub some lay on hands on it afterwards and be fresh in the morning.

>>51470685
>implying you can't explain anything in character creation with some creativity

>>51470690

It is the same thing every time.
>some kind of trap
>int boost through the roof
>social skills as mind control
>crafting to cheese builds

Nothing really special. Mechanics over fluff even if it doesnt make sense

>>51470685
Man, 2hu was willing to write like a 2,000 word backstory for Molthune knights, I wouldn't put it past him to write another 2,000 words.

>>51470703
>Smite evil with the dick.
>Roll crit
>Slo-mo scene of a super punch but with your phallus breaking the face of the evil bitch instead of your fist.

>>51470685
>What is your goal and concept here? What are you making? I would prefer not to have to worry about whether someone is looking to try and steal the show. I would definitely prefer a character that makes sense, above all else. It looks like high linguistics with a lot of disguise and probably knowledges. How does Magdh fit in here?
For example, Lords of the Wheel style balance above all assassin who worships Magdh and carries out her will of murder to prevent foretold catastrophe. Does so with powerful magics and bladework.

>>51470736
This is what 2hu would do, he already tried to go Lords of the Wheel in another game.

>>51470710
2hu treats chargen as a riddle to solve, or a toolbox optimization challenge. Things like Orator are those they "solved" and include in most builds. Backstory is something relatively easy to justify, really.

>>51470756
Why does Orator go in every build?

>>51470735
By the power of Arshea!
https://youtu.be/aRukV7FxxA4

>>51470769
Because it links Linguistics (and thus Int) to the useful parts of three different skills, and the Skill Focus requirement is largely irrelevant because it directly improves the skill you're using. Linguistics itself is also useful.

>>51470710
So, not going for ultimate cheese here but as an example one of my DM's wanted me to explain why I chose to go Orator and Int to Perform (Dance). I think it was Clever Wordplay? I can't recall.

So my explanation was that my character wasn't confident. They didn't have grace, or a magnetic personality. Instead they were a quick learner, and enjoyed studying things they didn't understand, and becoming learned enough to back up what they can say in given conversations. They could learn traditional dances to make up for their lack of natural rhythm, they could learn proper court etiquette through study and observation of others in formal occasions. They could use the knowledge they have over opponents to intimidate them as opposed to raw force of personality.

Is that a fine enough explanation?

>>51470769
Maybe he is mistaken of its meaning and thinks it gives you bonus to Perform (fellatio).

>>51470769
Because it is efficient

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>>51470795
>spending two feats just for social skills
>TWO FEATS
>for something that rarely comes up

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

>>51469667
"Japan was a mistake."
-God

>>51470792

See that is fine on its own. And each piece on its own is usually fine. But when you combine them all together in a method that is clearly designed to either push the limits of what the GM will allow or invalidate the rolls of as many other players as possible, then it is a no go.

>>51470810

iirc the last character he made had +30 to diplomacy at level 3. But again, it links back into the whole vs. the parts issue. His backstory was using diplomacy as mind control.

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>>51470832

>>51470834
Well in the case of my character, who was an Elven Warder, I had to fulfill the role of being the face AND being one of the front line. I wasn't really in the mood for a traditional Charisma character so I came up with the whole Orator thing to help with Warder using Int. (I tossed on Int to Dancing for fun, really.)

Dreamscarred recently released new PoW classes/archetypes, Medic and Roil Dancer, is there a verdict already on their viability/OPness?

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Is esoteric magus viable? I want to make a punch mage, and the idea of giving someone a 10,000-volt right hook to the face makes me sexually excited.

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>>51470541
>wat do?

I think you know wat do.

>>51470541
By the time you fight BBEGs anyway, alot of PCs quickly learn to not trust based on appearances anyway

So, nothing a good old fashioned murderhoboism using a sword or magic cant fix, in a straight fight

>>51470810
It really depends on what kind of game you are playing. If you are just diving into dungeons then that will be a waste but if you want to be able to solve as many problems as you can then it is efficient. Not everything has to be +x to CL if you are a wizard.

>>51470925
You quickly forget what happened the last time Rance fucked a BBEG.

>>51470904
Medic makes in combat healing viable. Solid, does its job, nothing too fancy. Feels a bit dry in that there's little interaction between its medic features and its full initiating.
It's like "hey this guy is a healer but oh yeah on the side they're also super good at combat".

The Sanguinist archetype is the most notable, it plays pretty fun but also became a really good one-level dip for any WIS based unarmed build.

Roil Dancer is a challenge to figure out: it's got a lot of moving parts in and of itself and has the added barrier that you need to understand the 1pp kineticist first, which is no easy feat either.
However I've been playing one and found it a bunch of fun. Damage is fairly standard: nothing compared to full initiators but you're an actually /competent kineticist/ now. Also if you choose your element right (read: if you choose aether), you have a lot of strong out of combat utility as well.
Roil Dancer stacks with Avant Guard, interestingly, but makes the class extra fiddly to play until you get a real 0 burn blast at level 7.

>>51470976
Maybe I should take a look at Roil Dancers and Kineticist...

I was also interested in Sanguinist as well purely for the flavor of it. The way the suck out blood does remind me of JoJo vampires where that is exactly how they do it. I was already pondering on a Broken Blade oriented build for a while, I am going to give this a shot

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>>51470975
C'mon, that was one time. What are the odds of a repeat?

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Anyone else find gestalts really hard to make? I just feel overwhelmed like I have to optimize at least a little but but then I get choice paralysis.

>>51470541
I'm doing this for my next campaign, she'll start off the story as a scarred beggar girl and claw her way up to bitch queen of the world in time for the final battle.

>>51471042
I have the opposite problem. I have a couple of gestalt characters that I like but are never suitable for any campaigns.

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>>51470669

>>51471060
Even better if you can somehow get the party to be the reason shecs scarred.

>>51471065

Trade me? There are too many options and what I think sounds cool really just overlaps. So far I have it narrowed down to
>Slayer||Cultist/Serial Killer Vigilante/Alchemist/Witch

>>51469785
>Anon do you need a hug?
Yes.

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>>51470834
>His backstory was using diplomacy as mind control.

Using Bluff/Diplomacy/Intimidate to get a fort's commander to surrender even when the fort could have beaten back the attackers easily?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Detroit

Wow, does this mean they had legit mind control back in 1812?

I don't think anyone here realizes just how much crazy unbelievable bullshit has happened in historical wars.

>>51471082
What game? And what are you trying to do?

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>>51471087
It will be ok Anon. Trust.

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>>51471100
>What game?
Bathe Yourself In Blood
>And what are you trying to do?
Something assassin haha. I really wanted something along the lines of the Morag Tong from Morrowind. I really liked the idea of Writ killings and Mephala. I was going to use this art and do Symbiotic Vigilante but it seemed to be a popular idea.

>>51470685
Well it looks like 2hu already answered that.

>>51471128
Ah, I saw that game, but my assassin-type guy is reformed and does strictly nonlethal, so again not suitable for game. I have never played Morrowind so I'm afraid I have no idea what you are talking about.

>>51471139
>samsaran

Here comes the Bard spell list poaching.

>>51471153
To be fair it fits seamlessly with the First World reincarnation thing.

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What class is he??

Can I ask for advice on building my PF setting here, or does that go in a different thread?

>>51471143

The Morag Tong were the only legal assassin guild to operate. They had to call themselves a Guild and were able to make Writs of Execution to solve problems where the only recourse was death. They worshiped basically a spider demon of sex, lies and murder whos whole deal was pulling strings and setting up grand plots.

>>51471173
Looks like white mage design on the clothes and no armor, so maybe a white mage?

>>51471176
Have you considered doing something spidery for your other half?

>>51471185
He could have a mithral chain shirt or some such shit.

>>51471195

The only spidery thing I know of in pathfinder is the beast vigilante for the webshots

>>51471175

Go for it.

>>51471165
>seamlessly
That's being very, very, very, very charitable.

>>51471204
Isn't one of the RotJR players doing something with spiders? Maybe check what they did. There's always warpriest for quick healing, buffs, and hilarious small weapon damage.

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>>51471223
>First World is where everyone who dies reincarnates
>Samsarans die, then reincarnate

????????

>>51471231
>Isn't one of the RotJR players doing something with spiders?
All I remember was the one chick who was actually some spider race. I didnt look at it but it is worth a look through.

I saw warpriest as one of them. 1d8 kukris sounded dirty

>>51471222
I'm building a fantasy asian setting and plan on having clans based on the zodiac. How do I make them interesting and different from each other without going full Rokugan "want to be a spy? You're this clan. Cavalry? You're that clan. Duelist? One of these two clans but really just the left one." Basically have the clans be flavorful while still allowing players to be whatever they want no matter the clan and have it not be unusual.

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>>51471231
>>51471204

Allo. Aranha's player here.

What I did was use the Transformation and Hybrid Transformation feats from the Alteration spheres of power book to be able to turn into a spider or a spider-person.

>>51471232
>they both use the word reincarnate in their description
>now they're "seamlessly" linked

>>51470712
well he got exactly two half-sessions less than anyone who got into that game, so he didn't lose out much.

>>51471256

12 distinct clans is quite a bit. I would focus them around a trade of some kind if you dont want them specialize in a class. A clan can have uses for lots of classes but if they each specialize in one area of trade you can give more flexibility with choices.

That doesnt mean you cant have the horse still be cavalry focused and the dragon wizard/sorcerer focused either. Picking a vital section of the economy that each one dominates but still has to work together to keep the system from falling into infighting might work best.

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>>51471293
Is Molthune knights kill?

>>51471293
i kind of got the impression from the getgo that the molthune GM was in over their head. one of the reasons i passed on applying.

>>51471258

I dont think SoP is allowed. I could just do alchemist and focus heavily into poisons.

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>>51470832
"Allowing god to be worshiped was a mistake."
-the Alpha Numbers

>>51471308
I was rather wary too, considering how he used "comfy" as a buzzword to answer questions. Still applied but mostly because I've wanted to write down my foxwife and used it as a deadline/motivation thing.

>>51471308
>>51471352

I didnt think it died. It seemed like an easy game to DM. It is mostly on the players to RP it.

Can anyone confirm?

>>51470917
If you'd like not to be limited by times per day, there's the Self-Avowed, which will not only give you punch magery but also a divine grace equivalent and far more ... options... with your lightning fist than you could shake a stick at.

>You can pick a race for +Electrical FCB to your pulses (what'll be riding down your fist into their faces)
>You can gain retaliation and full attack methods for it just like magus can

>Least Clause: Deafening Pulse Modulation will literally make it electrical AND Fort or deaf for 1min on hit AND dazzled for 1min (no save) on damage dealing

Additionally for one feat each you can:
>Use medium or heavy armor safely AND ignore their movement penalties

>Change CHA to STR for basically everything, from your AC bonuses to the Save DCs, although it only adds, not replaces, Charisma for UMD (oh no, not both, OH NO!) while also making you half as expensive to resurrect.

>>51471352
>he used "comfy" as a buzzword to answer questions
yep this, and some confusion about downtime rules, and his allowing blood money.

>>51470541
*unfastens penis*

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>>51471352
That's okay. I really liked your foxwife. I'd take her as a PC in any game I ran. I even masturbated to her!

>>51470975
Are you referring to the one that got pregnant?

>>51471362
Hard to confirm since the GM disappeared.
He claimed having had turbocancer all week with no prior warnings or indications a couple of hours before game started, called it early, and never logged in again. The Roll20 account was also brand new, most likely a throwaway account.

>>51471377
Link to foxwife?

>>51471415

www.yermam.com

>>51471377
yeah but you masturbate to anything and everything so that's like having "I breathe air" as your reason.

>Why do you like her so much?
>Because the osmotic exchange of CO2 and O2 performed by a combination of my diaphragm and alveoli makes me not die

Whatever happened to Lazy Princess game?

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>>51471439
what do you think

>>51471414

Hmm. That sucks. It seemed like a fun campaign. Hopefully he comes back for those who were able to get in.

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>/pfg/ games

I love hearing about your suffering

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>>51471455
Yeah, that's about what I figured.

>>51471457
more like he's reading this and grinning I'd say.

Any advice on making a non-gnome illusionist type character? Probably human. I'm guessing sorcerer or wizard for class?

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>>51471512

I know it says oracle but you take what art you can of Wayangs.

>>51471377
Thanks, I guess.

>>51471415
I don't have the link on hand right now, I'm on my phone. Check archived threads on 4plebs or something.

>>51471512
Elf Arcanist, bonus spell points to more readily raise your dcs.
If you are set on human Wizard for sure, their racial FCB favors wizard.

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>>51471512
Take Forrest's racial trait that lets you count as a gnome!

So scrublord again here coming over to discuss PoW.

So whats up with associated skill counters? On the surface it looks good since initiators often have max initiation stat, a skill point per hd and class skill bonus, but then you factor in that monsters worth using it on will have full bab, max str and then size bonuses on top of being several hd higher than pcs. The more you look at it the more you sort of realize that its a losing battle with the initiator probably needing to roll a 15+ to the monsters 11.

Do initiars ignore these counters or do they actually spend feats on skill focus and other boosters?

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https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67563/furry-pathfinders

Why hasn't /pfg/ flocked to this game yet?

>>51471653
>That aside this game won't really have a set story more of just the players get to decide what direction to go

probably because this makes for a shitty time

>>51471600
>associated skill counters
If it's something that you'd want to use elsewhere like scarlet throne's sense motive things, broken blade's acrobatics or black seraph's intimidate, then it's not going to exactly hurt, is it? There's a lot of ways you can pump skills through use of items and spells.

>>51471653
Because it appears to be meant for actual furries instead of feeding /tg/'s monstergirl fetish.

>>51471653

>further proof that it is a small number of shitposters

>>51471600
It's really easy to massively boost a skill, or at least have it high enough that you can consistently beat the attack roll. And that's even before you consider things like how Agile Dancer makes you just as good at Broken Blade as you are at Mithral Current.

>>51471600
This is the first time I've seen anyone claim that skill counters are /underpowered/, wow.

In fact they scale at a very reliable rate and they're very easy to pump up.
Magic items of +5 competence bonuses are super cheap, and then factor in the +3 skill bonus and your skill roll is about 7~8 higher than full progression BAB attack rolls would be at your level.

Since most disciplines are keyed to actually useful skills, it's not like a +5 diplomacy/acrobatics/sense motive item is a niche investment either.

They aren't infallible but are very reliable if invested in even a little.

Also
>size bonuses
Big enemies have size /penalties/ to attack, anon.

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>>51471439
I still want to impregnate Lazy Princess!

So, if Sky Pirates would close right now, are there enough good apps to make a game out of it?

>>51471439
The DM's roommate was using his account and OC setting to bait people.

>>51471741
That is generally what happens to sleeping beauties who just give that few fucks.

That or Patchouli, if a number of doujins on my drive are to be believed...

>>51469667
Has hate for spammed lewd games softened enough for me to re-post mine?

>>51471744
are there even 6 complete 100% finished and posted sheets?

>>51471763
I think it's be fine if you posted yours. I think the majority of the hate was for when they ended up in the OP.

Alright, let's take it from the beginning.
I'm completely fine with running a game much like the recent lewdgames, because I've tried it before and I know it's a blast (with the right people).
I just don't like Pathfinder as a system and don't know it mechanically, so that's out of the question. I can do M&M, though, as well as Aberrant (but those two games are practically the same, though, so it's a matter of player preference and is thus probably going to be M&M in the end).
I'm GMT+1, have plenty of free time and am thinking of about five players, so there's room for missed sessions and time-bomb retards.
"Lewdgame" here is defined as follows. All intercourse, sexual fluids, genitals and extremely sexualized acts like soft vore are all going to be fade-to-black. If your character's sexual traits are extremely important to them for some eldritch reason and might thus be required to be shown to the other players, ask for GM permission first and be aware you might not get it if it seems like it'll make the game weird for the other players.
A modicum of maturity and willingness to actually roleplay is desired.
"Lolsorandum" is not wanted nor appreciated.
Kitsune and other clichés are limited to one character and might be down-prioritized.
Anime is fuel for the imagination, not a substitute for it.
Seriousness isn't enforced, but the world doesn't run on Rule of Funny/Cool (and that's the last time I use TVTropes language, I swear).
If anyone's interested, send off a mail to [email protected] (preferably containing some kind of character hook, even if vague), and I'll get back to people if there's any real interest with a Roll20 game and updates about players and characters.
If not, this will sink to the bottom of the board where it belongs.

>>51471757
If the world does not give any fucks, those with the Will may still take

>>51471774
Sheets ain't required yo

>>51471792
>send me a character hook for an undetermined system in an undetermined setting

>>51471792
Have you checked out Unchained Heroes? It's pretty decent from the looks of it.

There's a lot of systems out there; and it's honestly rather sad how so many attempt to scrunch up everything until it fits in pathfinder so much.

I don't yet know if interested because "lewd" is like saying "there will be combat"; tells me nothing*, but at the very least I do wish you good luck on getting a different system to be run.


*fade to black's usually for the best though, unless you want anyone not currently "involved" in the scene to turn it into an MST3K, which I can tell you from experience can cause some people who were getting into it way too much to cry and ragequit the campaign. Good times, that. Good times.

>>51471792
>Pathfinder thread
>advertising for non-pathfinder game

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>>51471796
or at least their sperm will, if I'm reading all this right.

>>51471792
>I just don't like Pathfinder as a system and don't know it mechanically, so that's out of the question. I can do M&M, though, as well as Aberrant (but those two games are practically the same, though, so it's a matter of player preference and is thus probably going to be M&M in the end).
Why not take it to gamefinder? Or fuck roll 20 has an erp group specifically to organize such games.

>>51471326
>tfw you get so niche a reference

>KEISAR EPHES-YO! HIKARI NI... NAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE!

Any tips for an Order of the Shield cavalier? Taking Intercept Charge as the first teamwork feat so he can heroically get himself fucked up to save his friends.

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>>51471834
>>51471846
If /pfg/ hates Pathfinder and acknowledges that, then how will /pfg/ ever escape Pathfinder and move on to better systems?

>>51471806
hmm fair enough. in that case i would say there's probably just enough once you cut out the characters with questionable backstory or ignorance of the "don't break the game" rule.

>>51471859
Cross class into something not awful.

>>51471864
Go and stay go edition warrior.

>>51471817
I mean "hook" as in "this is roughly the kind of character I want to do", not "their background, name, contacts and dog".
Speaking /pfg/ language, it might be "I'm thinking about a loli brawler" or "I could go for the obligatory manly character".
It just needs to be enough for me to tell roughly what kind of roles people want to play, so that I have something to work with when deciding the specific setting and other details.
>>51471834
>>51471846
Don't you think I've tried? This thread is the only one that has any activity - Gamefinder is deader than normal recently, and ERP is not what I'm going for.
>>51471831
I can't run a system I don't know at a moment's notice, especially not when the players might know it better. I posted some other systems I can run in the previous threads, but I got encouraged to try M&M.

>>51471882
Why not run a super simple rules lite game, like PbtA?

Not Dungeon World though, I hear Fellowship is better for fantasy.

>>51471868
What's brave, heroic, 1pp, and not a paladin because there's already a paladin?

>>51471774
Why make sheets for something that you may not be picked for and may not even run? Just throw together a backstory and crunch it if you get in.

>>51471774
There are eight sheets but some are still wip
Mine among them due to the latest rule of nothing that can summon equipment. Which annoys me as I am having trouble getting the same capabilities out of other classes

>>51471903
Anything can be brave and heroic those are personality characteristics not class features.

>>51471695
Actually fluffy tails got a fair number of people apping.

No-one's even seen the actual furry game until now.

>>51471914
aegis made no sense with your otherwise hyper typical backstory anyway.

>>51471903
Anything you play as brave and heroic. Personally, I would look at Bard or Inquisitor for what you are after.

Also, I am assuming PoW is off the table, because if it isn't, Warder and Zealot are your dream.

>>51471913
Well if it was my game I would only consider people that make sheets it takes very little effort to make one and gives me a firm grasp on what you want to do and how you plan to do it, and if I even like what you are making for the game.

>>51471903
Robin hood type slayer.

>>51471934
>Every class has to be described in great detail in your back story.

>>51471925
Nope. Rogues, wizards, and other ruffians are explicitly unheroic classes, being self-serving degenerates by necessity

>>51471945
>Well if it was my game I would only consider people that make sheets it takes very little effort to make one
Post your level 16 gestalt 1 million gold sultana harem slave sheet then, if it takes "very little effort" to make a sheet.

You sound like someone who's game would be a simple hack and slash combat generator who sees player characters as statblocks to throw monsters at.

>>51471973
is that what i said?

>>51471903
A wizard with a positive con mod.

>>51471979
>Alignment: Any
Uh huh.

>>51471981
If I had any inclination to play in that game I would post something for it.
You sound like the kind of gm that fiats liberally, uses dice as a suggestion, and is more concerned with your narrative then actually making a story for your players to interact with and alter.

>>51471979
Tell us which classes you've mentally disallowed from being heroic and brave and we'll be able to help you further.

Here's a quick list:
Barbarian
Bard
Cleric
Druid
Fighter
Monk
Paladin
Ranger
Rogue
Sorcerer
Wizard
Alchemist
Cavalier
Gunslinger
Inquisitor
Magus
Oracle
Summoner
Vigilante
Witch
Antipaladin
Ninja
Samurai
Arcanist
Bloodrager
Brawler
Hunter
Investigator
Shaman
Skald
Slayer
Swashbuckler
Warpriest
Unchained Barbarian
Unchained Monk
Unchained Rogue
Unchained Summoner
Kineticist
Medium
Mesmerist
Occultist
Psychic
Spiritualist

>>51471979

>tfw all my rogues end up as security experts, locksmiths and troubleshooters, keeping others (and their valuables) safe from harm

>>51471979
Entirely untrue I have played hero of the people type rogues who defend others and are generous to the common man. I have played wizards that go out of their way to protect others. It is how you play the character not what class you picked.

>>51472007
I'm glad I'm not running in your hypothetical game. Let's see you rig up any level 16 gestalt sheet then. How long will you take to do it, since it's "very little effort to make one"?

>>51471901
Fellowship of the Ring?
Only for the lightest level of fantasy, it's basically on the level of Pendragon in that sense.

>>51471983
It's what you implied, you're too mundane class X makes no sense. If you need over the top backstory to justify what your class choices are asking for special snow flakes, furthermore that app in question has like four classes listed.

>>51472045
What are the restrictions? What is the theme? Probably about two hours if I am at the computer, on my mobile at the moment so significantly longer due to mobiles being shit for that.

>>51472055
Not that guy, but it's not Fellowship of the Ring. It's a... actually, I dunno how to describe it except possibly "tumblr-D&D, but that might be right for the game. Here.
http://www1.zippyshare.com/v/W08ECaGe/file.html

>>51472055
>>51472090
Fellowship is the best PbtA game for fantasy once you get past the art.

>>51472089
Gestalt, hybrid, DHB and Ehnjolly classes only, 2 traits (3 with drawback), level 16, 20 point buy, theme is a giant ethereal dungeon has phased into existence in the middle of a megacity and is causing all sorts of problems with traffic, you're one of the city's problem solvers. Go into the dungeon and fix. Downtime will be available.

>>51472072
I didnt imply anything close to that, you dipped aegis for the mechanical advantage and hoped no one would notice. now you're strawmaning when someone caught on

If your character is a 19 year old turnip farmer that suddenly decided to be a pirate you better have at least a few sentences where he learned how to conjure ectoplasmic armor. 2hu would write 500 words on the subject.

>>51471984
What's the most heroic school? Abjuration?

>>51472143
>2hu would write 500 words on the subject.

I thought 2hu was all about the builds and nothing else.

>>51472121
>Dhb and jolly only
Don't even have those sources on hand. You are funny.
Also would not apply to a game with such stupid and illogical rules.
How about you give a sensible scenario instead of trying to be a cheeky shit.

>>51472024
>>51472018
>tfw every rogue in every game you play is a Chaotic shitbag with no friends and the DM has to jump through hoops to justify them sticking around and the other PCs not imprisoning or killing them

I envy your good fortune, friends.

>>51472154
hey don't look at me man, I have no 2hu beef

>>51472090
>tumblr D&D
... ... I'm not sure I want to click anymore. I have to deal with those SJW types in real life already. Tumblr should fucking electrocute its fucking bloggers and then die.

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>>51472172
Literally nothing about Fellowship's default setting (i.e. none), fluff, or even rules is Tumblry.

It doesn't even mention gender, sexuality, etc. etc., not a single time.

It's just that they outsourced the art to Tumblr, sooooooooooooo...

>>51472158
Most /pfg/ games have a number of odd requirements in them; sky pirates has "one side of gestalt must be vigilante", Sultanas and Raisins has the clause "all your equipment must be in smugglable form", Double Kitsune states you need to be a yokai kitsune.

The very fact that mechanical limitations is putting you off from making a sheet is very telling - you don't want to make a sheet because restrictions are having to make you think and it's taking more effort; yet you have the gall to say that "making a sheet is not very much effort at all" but decide not to play when someone calls you on it. What's wrong? You're still better than all the people applying to games with backstories and no sheets, but you're just too cool to actually make a sheet?

>>51472154
2hu always tries to justify how their characters got their powers. It's not always as elaborate as for Molthune game but backstory is always there.

>>51472195
>>51472172
When I posted >>51472090 I mostly meant the artwork. There's only one white male guy in the book, and it's >>51472195
I hear the mechanics is fairly decent, though.

>>51471979
Wizards have the greatest capacity for good because they can actually help people in mass.

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>>51472214
>Sultanas and Raisins

Where are the raisins?

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>>51472223
Fellowship's rules are really good.

But the art is stock art. Not just any stock art, but TUMBLR stock art.

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>>51472264
They're being smuggled.

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>>51472216
Like this?

https://app.roll20.net/forum/permalink/4567076/

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Did Onryou and Elsbeth get into that boob to boob cage mage yet?

>>51472276
>The Dwarf
>crystal golem
>orangutan legionnaire
>robo-arms demolitionist
>bald-elf woodsman
I don't understand?

>>51472216
While 2hu's too wordy for my tastes, I cannot fault that particular habit. I see a lot of various classes and ability sets as either having or being the result of a great impact on someone.

One does not simply wake up one morning and go "I should take some Rage classes", pay tuition, and a few weeks later you're a berserking barbarian, after all. Nor does one become a Wilder instead of a regular Psion for no reason, or see the world the same way when born with innate magical power versus having obtained the same ability by spending 16 years memorizing formulas...

>>51472143
Actually I was planning to primary into aegis, the warlord was there to give the stupid gun feat taxes and mage knight was there because I had a level left over so picked something with high bab that looked fun. Also since this seems to be an issue to you, aegis is AL something I have always treated as an intuitive class as just happening, I don't see it as something involved and taught by others.

I've seen the complaint that the Amulet of Mighty Fists causts twice what a +5 weapon does....I wonder if anyone realized that's because it is actually two effects, one for Unarmed Attacks, and one for Natural Attacks. If you made an amulet dedicated to one type or the other it would only costs 50,000 and either one would still benefit a monk.

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>>51472310
It's a Tumblr art thing.

>>51470917
Yes, it is, but you would do better with a standard magus using Natural Attack Spellstrike and having claws (hexcrafter with the Witch Nails hex or a changeling). You lose one of your attacks, but if you are a changeling you get two attacks from level 1 that use full BAB (and the mother's gift feats help them with +1 natural armor and +1 to attack and damage as well, and a low grade spell resistance if you want it).

>>51472214
Gestalt vigilante is also really easy and I can get the class off the srd. Saying you can only use these specific non core sources is pretty silly hell I don't even know what is dhb and jolly.
And your entire goal was to pick something that was as obtuse as possible to prove your point using absurd criteria.

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>>51472349
>One does not simply wake up one morning and go "I should take some Rage classes", pay tuition, and a few weeks later you're a berserking barbarian, after all.

That's actually exactly how it works.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/basics-ability-scores/more-character-options/retraining

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>>51472386

>>51472372
>The Halfling
>20s catboy
>wizened old man
>short punchgirl
>black leprechaun
I'm more confused than before!

>>51472310
The "Dwarf" in fellowship just means a guy who has the tropes associated with dwarves, not someone who has a dwarven appearance. "It's the beard on the inside that counts" kinda deal.

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>>51472396

>>51472400
>>51472396
>>51472393
So is this how we ward away the autists?

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>>51472383
I think the two of you just managed to sum up everything wrong with pathfinder in just two posts right there.

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>>51472372
>black leprechaun

>SHEEEEIT NIGGA, DEY BE STEALIN MUH LUCKY CHARMS AN SHIT

>>51472195

Glad I dodged that bullet.

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>>51472378
>Saying you can only use these specific non core sources is pretty silly hell I don't even know what is dhb and jolly.
>bathe self in blood character generation: Character Creation: -Gestalt (One class must be Rogue, Slayer, Vigilante, Alchemist (keeping theme in mind) or similarly Assassin-ish themed class)
>Crusaders & shit: -30 point buy, limited Gestalt -Spheres of Power, Spheres of Might, Path of War, Avowed. Other 3PP available on request
>sky pirates: You can use any Paizo Race or Dreamscarred Race, You can be any class ye wish from Paizo, Dreamscarred, or Spheres of Power/Might.
>Sultanas: - Paizo + all DSP (no monster classes because gestalt) + all Forrest + all N. Jolly + all Ascension Games + all Radiance House (no Occult Scholar) + Legendary Rogue + Everyman Unchained Fighter + Masquerade Reveler + ertw Beguiler + Spheres of Might previews
>Fluffy tails - Sources: Paizo, DSP and all playtests, Forrest and N. Jolly and all their playtests, Ascension Games, Everyman Gaming (ARTs and Everyman Unchained Fighter only), Legendary Rogue, Masquerade Reveler, ertw's Beguiler. No Spheres, I don't really like it, sorry.

Jolly's stuff is SoP and SoM, and DHB's homebrews... ok, I dunno, I was pretty sure they were on the trove. But seriously, if you actually looked at any of the game some of the rulings are bizzare.

>>51472418
>>51472372

Isn't that like horrible cultural appropriation of the nth degree?

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>>51472423
It's a legit great RPG though. For real.

>>51472426
Now this is just a black 2hu.

>>51472418
HOL UP

>>51472436

>pbta
>great

>>51472447
If your only exposure to PbtA is Dungeon World, yeah, it's shit.

But there are much better PbtAs out there.

>>51472436
Post Princes Warlord(male).

>>51472435
Hypocrisy isn't so much a rampant epidemic as an apocalyptic grey-goo scenario for those people.

>>51472482
Who?

>>51472154
2hu is about autism and WORDS WORDS WORDS.

>>51472498
The only white male in the illustrations who also happens to be wearing a princess dress. Is an overlord IIRC.

>>51472482
>>51472523
Already did >>51472195

Poor oppressed white bois

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>>51472598

>>51472598
>he doesn't know that everyone here is a tranny

>>51471415
https://app.roll20.net/forum/permalink/4428540/

>>51472389
Fellowship is about people making RPG party like the Fellowship of the Ring where everyone has a certain role and archetype to play out. Being Dwarf does not necessarily mean you are a literal dwarf. It means you are stout, dependable, crafty and probably rowdy. Just like "elves" can also be pixies, fairies or aliens.

>>51472598
I actually find that image funny, and even sorta badass in a goofy way.

Like, a guy who is so overly macho, so confident that he is going to crush you under his heel while wearing a princess dress, just because he fucking can.

Or if its just a fetish/signaling sexual preference, well, he's still pretty amusing for pulling it off while conquering Middle Earth.

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>>51472681
His HIGH heel, you mean.

>>51472631
Just because you write jaguar on the hood doesn't mean it's no longer a pinto.

>>51472598
>implying I'm white

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>>51472739

I just stole your image

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>>51472791

Okay.

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>>51472791
>scarpin

I have never heard of this before.

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>>51410062
Recruiting for lewd dungeoncrawling based on pic related. We've a decent few people interested so far, but I'm expecting people to drop out so recruitment is still open.

>Game page
goo gl Tzsozq (remove spaces, add . and /)

>On the border of the Worldwound, from within his temple, the vile Arch-Deviant, the Dark Exarch Malgorgias, plots, schemes and delves into knowledge, pleasure and corruption twisted, evil and powerful.
>To his labyrinth, his former Temple of Shelyn now converted into a twisted mirror of his own transformation from simple adoration to dark pleasure and hatred, adventurers go to brave his corruptions, traps and tests, and finally slay the fiend before his the culmination of plan to change and warp the minds and souls of the entire world.

>Damn that blurb is a crime against commas, in retrospect

>>51472858
Depends, is 2hu in the game?

>>51472143

Yeah, like that Jen character in the pirates applications. How the hell does some pampered noble even reach level 7?

>>51472890

I'm a pampered noble and I finally become a wizard this year

>>51472877
nope, pretty sure they're too busy flicking their sultana

>>51472216
Anything done to excess is bad.

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>>51472980
>kimono

Is that what kids call it these days?

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>>51473007

Western fashion idea of what a "kimono" is is usually 110% wrong

>>51473023
Then what is it really?

>>51469667
Lady adventurers, do you gird your loins before battle and heavy labor?

>See huge stink about some autist called "2hu"
>Half the thread defends him and accuses some guy of being a samefagging stalker
>See roll20 assassin game
>Never met the guy before but see one guy's string of questions that may as well telegraph "I want to break this game and be the center of attention" in multicolored all caps
I cant believe you guys defend this kind of shit.

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>>51473233

It sure fucking isn't this

(Technically, any clothes are "kimono" as it literally just means "thing you wear")

>>51473267

Define "gird your loins."

Do you mean put on underwear? Wear a girdle? Schlick it?

>>51473308
Girding your loins is a practice of lifting up a long dress or toga and tying it around your knees so you can move freely, usyakky to end someone's life or run for yours.

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>>51473308
>>51473326

>>51473297
These threads are 60% theorycrafting because most people don't play the game.
You are surprised a bunch of people who do nothing but make powerful "builds" for games they don't have to play defend someone who is doing it IN a game they have to play?
These threads are full of scumbags, and I cuss out 2hu in all the 4e threads because I see how toxic his mindset is to running an engaging game that is more about numbers. I hate his guts, but I have nothing to do with his PF games; I understand the hate and feel it myself.

>>51473375
>no one loves 2hu
>no one hates 2hu
>the only one who thinks or talks about 2hu is thu
>i'm 2hu

>>51473375
Or: the dude has legit non-ironic autisim and asks specific questions on what is/isn't allowed because he can't into concepts like "powerful, but not OP".

Dude is an full on gay furry autist man. Be nice. Just be glad you weren't born with that shit.

>>51473375

This is what frustrates me about these threads, too many folk see games as an exercise in crafting when that's only 10% of the actual game.

>>51472435
What culture are they appropriating?

>>51473375
Not defending 2hu or saying his behavior is acceptable, nor would I accept that shit in my game. But hating him is a bit much. That's like hating a blind person for being blind or hating a retard for being retarded. GMs need to stop being spineless and letting him ruin fun for others if he's as bad as witchhunter makes him out to be. He's literally autistic. He can't tell what he is doing wrong.

>>51473476
Fucking everyone here has autism, bro, but it doesn't stop us from exercising a modicum of restraint instead of BEEP BOOP INPUT (orator|fey obedience|clever wordplay)

Why do all these PFG Gestalt games nerf Spellcasters so hard? Fuck. If all these Warder 7//otherbullshit 7 are running around, why can't I take 7 levels of Wizard and call it a day? I just wanna have utility magic and blow shit up with fireballs and not be trash(kineticist). Why is that so hard now?

>>51473557
>Fucking everyone here has autism
No, most of them are just assholes.

>>51473557
No I don't think you understand what autism actually is.

Meme fun aside, it really fucking sucks and is a huge determent on the person's life. Most people here are just self-absorbed assholes who don't care about others enough to change their behavior. Most people with real autism wish they could be normal and spent most of their life trying to change their behavior.

>>51473588
Which ones are stopping you from playing a wizard on at least one side?

>>51473605
Two of the games say no Fullcasters. Well, one of them does. The other one says no spells after sixth level, but you can still play the class. But it starts at a super high level already.

>>51473588
Because "i do a lot of damage in combat and end the encounter" is easy to play around, even if taken to the most min-maxy extreme.

"I mind control the town and have my own personal slut harem made of the entire party and the best bois in town" is not something you can just play with.

Without some gentleman's agreement to control them or some obvious DM cock-blocking, actual 9th level spontaneous casters just fuck up the game so hard it's not even funny.

I previously thought that the whole caster thing was just huge memes, but after building a couble of mind-rapist sorcerers and seeing what they could do in an actual game with the gloves off, I realized that I was just "playing nice" with them previously.

>>51473520

Irish culture?

>>51473593
I'm diagnosed and it pisses me off when people use 'oh but he's autistic so we have to tolerate his fuckwittedness' to excuse 2hu's behavior

because

IF YOU KEEP DOING THAT HE WILL NEVER ACTUALLY LEARN TO GET BETTER

It is possible to be autistic AND a self-absorbed asshole (eg: chris-chan) just as much as it's possible to be autistic and, through a fucktonne of hard work, learn to interact meaningfully and well with people.

The thing is, though, it IS hard work, just like, say, learning to play the piano.

>>51473638
Okay, yeah, I can sort of see that.

>>51473588
Because they're incapable of making challenges to suit high level casters, while allowing 9 levels of martial OPoW is allowed because instant kills aren't overpowered.

>>51473639

As my pastor said this Sunday, simple =/= easy, someone who can make something look simple (like interacting with people even though they have a social disorder) often spent years of trial and error to work around their quirks.

>>51473639
You must be much more well-adjusted than my brother then. The poor dude hardly understand money. My parents are getting older and I'm not sure how I can help him when they are gone.

Who else plays pathfinder for escapism lol?

>>51473554
My reasons are not the same as others, anon.
My beef stems from an entirely different game and role.
>>51473476
And I know people with legit autism who put in the personal effort it takes to keep it under control, and people who are either too lazy or fearful to do it.
My roommate is the later, and one of my best bro's is the former.
A !-> C, my man, and in the real world, excuses like "it's harder for me to do X than others" leads to "than why haven't you done X to overcome it?". I've fought off depression, years of sexual abuse, alcoholism, a small host of things alone and without the aid of others (to a point) or medication of any sort.
I reserve the right to call out others for being lazy cuntrags when they choose to let their core malfunctions rule them, rather than the other way around.
>>51473507
I know. I came for only a bit of advice on ZS Warder, and got shit on for being charisma strong/intimidate focused, ignoring most disciplines save for Iron Tortoise and Scarlet Throne.
I really came on to ask if it would have a great effect on putting up a decent offense compared to a solid defense, how to work with the team I had considering I've never used initiators, but couldn't even get answers to that.
Meanwhile, multi-thread posts about how to create a outrageous gestalt... thing to accomplish, well, I couldn't tell what.

>>51473660
Pretty much everyone that plays RPGs

>>51473557
>Fucking everyone here has autism
You have no idea what you are talking about. Sure, 2hu is rigid in his beliefs even for an autist but talking shit like that just outs you as a moron you really are.

>>51473593

Depends on the degree of it. I've got actual 'Have a piece of paper with my diagnosis and everything' Autism but I'm high functioning. It impacts me a decent bit but it's not crippling.

I would disagree with the 'Wish they could be normal'. It's not so much a desire to be normal, after all I've literally never known anything outside of my current mental state. I simply don't have context for what 'Normal' is so I've not got much desire for it.

On the other hand: Even high functioning I do need to put in a lot of work to deal with social situations, especially if they go beyond a couple of other people. Groups (And especially loud music makes it worse due to sensory overload. Clubs are utter hell for me) can be rather hard to deal with. I don't work so much on trying to change my behaviour so much as putting extra effort into being aware of things I wouldn't otherwise.

2hu from my experiences (I've been in a couple of games with him in the past) is an honestly nice guy but REALLY not High Functioning. He'll spend a couple of hours helping you with mechanical stuff because he's happy to help but not quite understand the very concept that he's pushing too far or being a bother.

>>51473682
You DO know that it's your victims, not you, that suffer from the abuse... right?

>>51473634
>>51473605
>>51473618
whenI looked at the sultana's Harem game, I immediate threw all semblance of owrry concerning actually ever killign anythign out the window, in spite of my build, because an efreeti with 17 levels of PoW shit can kill any of the players in one full attack(and possibly just one attack), while the players will never actually harm them because 9th level counters>anything any one else can do without full casting.

>>51473704

Well, unless you encounter a Gunwitch. They can no-sell counters with Persistent Spell + Bullets. They expressly mention 'Counters' as one of the effects they can bypass with that shot type.

>>51473659
This is true. No one fucking cares about my blog so I'll leave it at 'yeah, it was years of work, but I'm also so much happier now'

>>51473660
Jesus, I'm sorry to hear it, bro. I don't know where you live, but if there's a city/county/state mental health association, it might be worth calling them up and asking for advice there, maybe?

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't terrified about the same thing for myself desu

Alright, /tg/. I'm going to be running a game on Tuesday Nights on 8PM EST, roughly inspired by Berserk. Before I create the roll20 page with the rules, would anybody be in the game be willing to play in a lewd-optional and somewhat gritty game?

>>51473375
I find your feminine hateboner cute.

>>51473693

>clubs are utter hell for me

3 normie 5 me

>>51473686
I play them because they are fun, anon.
But I also enjoy theater and dramatics.
>>51473700
>implying they are "victims"
>>51473693
This.
My roommate was in my group, but got bounced for good after repeated outbursts, his condescending "I am always right and never need to apologize" attitude and skating the line of what was appropriate for the game in question reached a limit. He bemoaned that it always ends in a similar fashion whenever he has friends, so I simply said, "You aren't a stupid guy, if you know it ends up a certain way, repeatedly, and you don't like it, shouldn't that tell you to do something, ANYTHING, about it?".
My response was something I think I blocked out on the grounds of enormously self pitiful, woe is I, I can't do anything schlock. I do remember thinking, "If I had that attitude, I probably would have succeeded at killing myself, rather than trying once and failing".
I will freely admit I don't understand his miasma of laziness and hopelessness.

>>51473756
>rape horse

pass

Also I don't think PF is really the best choice for gritty.

>>51473756

>Pathfinder game roughly inspired by Berserk

Of course, sign me up!

Yesterday evening we were about to start a new campaign and rolled up new characters.

I rolled (4d6, drop lowest) 14 15 15 17 17 18

What's the highest you ever rolled, and did the DM let you keep it? (mine didn't)

I'm going to run a game where everyone is a 0 point buy commoner, anyone interested?

>>51473774

Sensory Overload is a part of Autism that most people don't really know about. It's kinda interesting.

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>>51473756
It's funny cause just the other day I was mentioning how we'd never get a chance to play alongside the Band of the Hawk.

So yeah, count me in. That's +2.

>>51473719
>obscure third party class, weapon reliant on a game where you have to smuggle weapons in
>gunpowder
>plane of FIRE
Doubt we will.

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>>51473826
Reminds me of this game back in the day where we played a bunch of lvl 1 kobolds and hunted a boar.

>>51473822
>rolling

Why wouldn't your GM let you keep it? That's exactly what he wanted when he asked you to roll instead of point-buying.

Right lads thread's about to fall. Post adventuring gear.

>>51473870
Most likely because he felt he was cheating.

>>51473756
If it's not gestalt, has reasonable 3pp options, and isn't mired in /pfg/'s attempts to make everything into sexy furry games, yes.

>>51473827
I know about that.
I did some thinking about that, and you know who else the same thing can happen to?
Babies and infant creatures, before they learn to reflexively filter out sounds as a survival mechanism.
>>51473870
Because when GMs have you roll, it's because they don't want you to be too good on raw stats. They want you to have 1 or 2 decent stats, and the rest be 6-12.

>>51473885
>isn't mired in /pfg/'s attempts to make everything into sexy furry games, yes.
When has this literally ever happened?

>>51473870
He thought it would be unfair to the other players, whose highest stat was maybe a 16.

>>51473913
>>51473895
>>51473880

Aaaaand that's why you don't roll.

>>51473903

Fluffy Tails v2 and Rise of the Jade Regent?

>>51473639
>we have to tolerate his fuckwittedness
That's not true. If the GMs feel they're overstepping their bounds they should just say so or ban them from entering the game outright. The thing is, 2hu's logic makes perfect sense for them and it's everyone else who operates on entirely arbitrary, nebulous principles like "don't be a dick" and generally doesn't make any sense. They're not getting better becasue they're not really understanding what is wrong or what is normal. At least that's what I've gathered from interacting with them.

>>51473826
Sure, but will it be gestalt?

>>51473704
Isn't the point of that game that you are supposed to undermine the City of Brass from inside rather than just murderize everything with your unlimited gestalt power?

>>51473942

Gestalt commoner//commoner

>>51473925
So you're just full of shit and don't actually know what you're talking about. Cool memes bruh.

>>51473925
Also dragon game, and there are a bunch of people rolling KAWAII MONSTER GIRLS for pirates

>>51473981
Unchained commoner

Who else only really wants to play in a high-level game because they've never built a character for it, and look at things like high WBL, high stakes plot or end-game maneuvers and think "those look fun!"

I just want to use that 8th level Scarlet Throne stance ;_;

I am making a blaster arcanist and was actually allowed to take searing spell which I can easily apply to Fireball due to Magical Lineage, is there any point in taking admixture school understanding then?

>>51473981
Can we be gestalt commoner/commoner with VMC Avowed on one side and Dung Pact so we can wallow in manure even more?

>>51473991
>bunch of people
>literally only one monster girl app

>>51474035
>ghost girl
>genie girl
>catgirl
>lamia
>fey

>>51473903
If >>51473925 and >>51473991 give me four examples in the last month alone, I think it's safe to say this is a thing you guys do.
Not shitting on you for it - you guys do you, I enjoy shitty games too. I just don't enjoy those kinds of shitty games.

>>51471481
DTG's game is still ongoing a year later, so not everything is fucked.

>>51474065
>literally only one monster girl app
Look retard, could you go find your wrangler and tell him you need to take your meds?

>>51471600
The baseline is that it's easier to pump a skill than it is to pump BAB; consider that for a single feat, you're getting a +3 bonus on that Counter, and potentially a +6 if you keep steady with the skillpoints on it.
Atop that, most monsters run off of 3/4ths BAB, with only a few types getting the benefit of full. Monstrous Humanoids, Undead, Outsiders, they're all stuck with 3/4ths BAB on their hit-dice, which makes them way more likely to fail their attacks against a Skill Counter.

>>51474089

Lamia doesn't count?

>>51471774
There was one, but then she went and deleted herself.

>>51472890
A LOT of dead servants, I would assume.

>>51474124

Or maybe a lot of training?

>>51473942
Yes, but the instant death systems of PoW is really brought home when any 17th level PoW character can kill any gestalted character in one full attack without full casters to counter their inherent capabilities. Pow made 9th level casters NECESSARY.