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First for best ship.

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>>51469123
Second for you are wrong

>>51469207
Holy shit the perspective on that pic is awful.

>>51469207
>>51469258
I realized what bugs me about this, the far s-foil is larger than the close one.

That being said Citadel is pretty OP. Used one for some bounty hunters chasing the party and it thrashed their YT-2000

>>51469123
I was always a fan of the weapons blisters, and how they were mimicked for the various MC class designs.

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Something about the Dauntless has always tickled my fancy, especially since i thought the Bulwark looked like ass and i loved playing the alliance in Star Wars Rebellion.

Any ideas what will be next for X-wing?

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>>51469302
Huh. I genuinely assumed it was an asymetric design.

Hooray.

>>51469843
T-75 X-wing, looks more or less the same as the T-70 but slightly different engine shape
TIE/fo2, same as the TIE/fo but blacker

Is it still too soon for a PDF of No Disintegrations?

>>51469921
The book isn't even officially out yet. And the main scanner has disappeared, so it's basically luck of the draw how soon we get it and how high quality it is.

>>51469938
Yeah, just was hoping someone had broken street date, my group meets up tomorrow and wanted a take a look at it before hand.

>>51469954
The trees have leaked courtesy of someone on the forum but that's it unfortunately.

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>>51469258
>>51469302
>>51469857

There's actually a lot of wings on the beasts-
2 side wings
Plus you've got a long one coming down from the rear of the fuselage and a shorter one above that

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>>51470019
At least they aren't solar panels...

>>51470019
It's really not the wings, that are the issue. At least not mine. It's the cockpit area. Which looks like it's turned away from the lines of the fuselage. Like it's on a flexible neck like an AT-AT.

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>>51470064
Handy for looking around corners.

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>>51470051
>Somewhere Raith Sienar throws a desk ornament at someone

The old Thunderclap is a really neat design for engineering improbabilities that are asymmetric star wars ships

>>51470064
Oh yeah its all fucked up, but at least it looks friendly

I just watch the Plinkett vids on Rogue One, talk about clutching at straws.

>>51470394
He did a full Plinkett on that?
I saw most of their half in the bag on it and it was just Mike whining that a bunch of fans made a movie that was different than how he, as a fan, envisioned it should be.
Really pretty pedantic and petty.
His movies on the prequels and TFA were mostly pretty spot-on, but now that the original trilogy is being touched, his autism is starting to pique.

Anyone think Improved/Superior Precise Strike are a bit OP? I'm not sure if there's a catch not covered in the forum leak but they seem fairly ridiculous for dealing with bosses.

>>51470416
The worst Supreme can do is inflict staggered, and if PCs are reliably landing crits on your bosses something is probably wrong anyway.

>>51470644
Well, Staggered is pretty much 'you lose'.
Most PCs perhaps, but some PCs are crit-focused, and getting a Crit 2 or even Crit 1 weapon isn't that hard. Getting 1 Success 1 Advantage against, say, Adversary 3 with 2 Defence, is pretty reasonable.

Or getting a Triumph, ever, regardless of Crit rating.

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>completely at a loss for where to take my campaign next
>mfw

>>51470662
Triumphs don't auto-trigger crits though?

>>51470889
Where is your campaign at right now?

>>51470894
Yeah, you spend them on Crits. You have to hit, but getting 1 Success ever isn't that difficult. I understand that Critting a boss isn't strictly easy, but with these Talents you only have to do it once and now they're stunned for the rest of the encounter. There are very few ways around that and the GM would have to shoehorn them into each Nemesis he puts out.

>>51470900
Basically just wrapped up Trouble Brewing with my roommates. They killed Dobah, stole his YV-666 and sold the glitterstim to the Hutt. That's pretty much it, they don't have much in the way of outside connections/benefactors.

I can think of a handful of single-session type things (eg., someone comes looking for Dobah's ship, an obligation comes calling), but I can't think of a way to tie it into a longer-term story.

>>51470923
Crippling shot is about as broken. And a good technician can just say the BBEG's lightsaber is broken if they have their high end talents.

Although I'd probably houserule it so Staggering and Blinding aren't on the table, honestly. Or make it so you can only alter a hard crit into a different hard crit

>>51470929
What obligations do your players have?

One Nemesis is a boss-level challenge for a party of 4, right?

>>51470929
Obligations can fuel a pretty good set of longer term arcs. What are the obligations you have to work with?

>>51470943
Depends.

>>51470943
One nemesis can be a huge range of things, it's not really a specific measure of power.

If you use a single boss against a whole party, give the boss two turns,

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>>51470929
You've got the gang together, now you need to do some long term thinking
>What the characters are like
>Their obligations, ambitions and motivations
If you don't have the latter- GET THEM, if they're being coy or dicking about coming up with their characters ideas, slap their shit

Then there's the next step
Main body of the campaign, tailor it to what the characters like to do, then the 'bad guys' will shit all over their dreams and desires.
This is many adventures

Last step sometime down the track is to come to the conclusion, where they confront one another

>>51470941
>>51470945
The aggregated obligations are:
>Exile
>Obsession (be the very best mechanic)
>Antagonist (Imperial officer)
>Antagonist (Former business partner)
>Debt
>More debt

I have no idea how to work with exile/obsession for long term. Maybe something with the two Antagonists coming together?

>>51470960
Their characters are actually decently established. Maybe I'll just ask them what they'd like to see in the story?

At some point down the road, I want them to start working for the Rebellion.

>>51470983
>Maybe I'll just ask them what they'd like to see in the story?
This is always a solid idea. When I was floundering with direction for my campaign I talked to my players and they made it clear they wanted to establish their characters as career criminals and build a proper criminal empire. So I shifted gears to giving them the opportunity to do that, and made them work for it, and it's gone great so far.

>>51470416
I mean yeah, it can be pretty rough, but not relying just on the Martial Artist tree alone.

There isn't much in the way of survivability for somebody who has to get up next to people (only 2 Parry, only 2 Toughened, no Enduring, Coordination Dodge requires Destiny flips), there's nothing to up Brawl damage (like Feral Strength) to help actually ensure you deal that 1 point on Wound damage to crit. I mean sure, you can grab some equipment to help compensate, but you still need to get some decent progress in 2 different trees to get close to something that might be broken; and that's more xp for less pay-off than some other broken talent combos in the game.

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Hey guys, I got this starter box and I'm gonna run it for some guys at my local store soon. I've been reading through and getting my head around the rules and stuff, and grabbed the extra pdf adventure and two more characters.

Question is, can I use those two other characters right from the start too if I want to have more folks at the table or give folks choices? Or are they only designed for the second half of the content?

>>51471106
>Question is, can I use those two other characters right from the start too if I want to have more folks at the table or give folks choices?
That's what they're for.

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Reminder that the Confederacy of Independent Systems did nothing wrong, and were the subjects of Republic Oppression

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgICnbC2-_Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAbug3AhYmw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wKqH6vlGHU&t=885s

Has anyone here watched these? Thoughts on potentially using this as canon instead of the real PT for an in-between Saga and OT game?

>>51471275
No, just no.

>>51471275
I can tell looking at this dude that his videos are going to be obnoxious.

>>51471307
>>51471329
I know that he's an obnoxious looking guy, and that his voice is kind of cloying, but what specifically didn't you agree with? I thought his adjustments were for the most part pretty well-reasoned.

>>51471032
>nothing to up Brawl damage

They can add Coordination to damage for only 2 strain I think.
But yeah, alright, I suppose it's not too bad. I'll concede.

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are there stats for TR-8Rs stun baton in RPG?

>>51471346
If his points had real merits, more people here would use his points in their arguments, don't you think? I liked the prequels as they were, flaws and all, and despite those flaws i am not one for altering what's in the films to fit my headcanon, only using my headcanon to fix the flaws that have been identified.

>>51471417
And by flaws I mean plot-holes and issues with continuity.

>>51471372
Not the First Order model specifically, the RPG is set purely in the GCW era. There's a generic "Stun Baton" and a generic "Stun Club" which would work fine though.

>>51471417
I think the reason you don't see more people using his points here is that the sort of people who follow YouTube channels like BelatedMedia aren't generally the same sort that hang out on 4chan. Most of my normie Star Wars friends bring him up constantly when talking about the prequels.

I'm personally also a fan of the prequel trilogy, Phantom was the first movie I ever owned and is definitely one of my top 5 most watched. I just think he offers a neat alternate-timeline that could be fun to explore.

>>51471493
Perhaps for a Tabletop game session yeah, I could see it. As far as I've seen most "normies" don't analyze star wars the way any in-depth fan does, so your friends aren't any more normal than you they're just not 4chan users.

>>51471493
This >>51471524 said. Now having watched his videos, I really don't like his ideas. Some of them were an improvement, yeah, but most were him simply deciding to rewrite the whole thing rather than improve on what was already there flaws or not. He said in his hypothetical universe where he was a Fox exec, he acted like he would have actually said no to Lucas or that execs actually get that involved, especially where geniuses like Lucas are involved, they don't. That is precisely why he never got called on the flaws and continuity issues presented in the prequels. Most of the issues can be fixed with TV shows and other media, and I assume Lucasfilm under Disney is working on that.
The other thing I dislike with his ideas and story changes did not seem inspired or epic or legendary, simply mediocre ways to make the films more consistent with his previous alterations. Nothing he says seems better than what we got, only different, and his different is not my idea of whats better.

>>51471215
what about letting grievous run their army?

>>51472674
He was a necessary evil

>>51471215
How about letting Dooku be their leader with his known Sith affiliation? he was elected after all.

>>51472773
He was a Jedi once, and that made him have some moral high ground despite his sith affiliations

>>51472810
but it is a wrong thing the CIS did. for all his moral high ground and other bullshit, he masterminded the CIS as a Sith controlled movement to weaken the Republic and for a Sith Empire then once the Empire was formed discard them like trash.

>>51472919
Was Dooku a Sith pre-Phantom Menace? I mean, he supposedly started the separatist movement, which was around before the movie, but Darth Maul was still alive, so Palpatine's not following the Rule of Two.

>>51472958
Was Palpatine ever following the rule of two to the letter? he corrupted many a force sensitive in his time, and few ever gained the title of Darth, let alone Dark Lord of The Sith.

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Vanguard-class Heavy Assault Gunship is a ship to be feared and great ship for a group of mercs to purchase or steal.

Would it be unreasonable for an old republic era ship to have survived and remained operable up to the galactic civil war?

>>51473512
The Old Republic era is a very, very large time frame. You'd need to be more specific.

>>51473543
KOTOR era, then

>>51473555
Probably. IIRC, one of WEG's splat books had a capital ship design that dated back to what would eventually become the KOTOR era. I'm not sure whether that meant it has been in production since then or old ships still remain in service. There's precedent for it, though.

>>51473604
All right. Thanks.

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Would you a sterile selonian warrior woman? Corran Horn would.

>>51472958
I recently read Darth Plagueis, and no, Dooku wasn't Sith by the time of TPM. He doesn't even leave the Jedi Order until around the events of TPM (in fact, the events surrounding it are part of why he decides to leave, sort of the straw that broke the camel's back).

Dooku also wasn't the leader of the separatist movement, because there really wasn't a separatist movement yet.

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Anyone managed to make out what the base says?

>>51473604
The Invincible class Dreadnought right?

Sliiiiighly newer than KotOR but still old as balls.

>>51473124
Aren't those crazy OP?

What's a good name for a corporate scouting company. I have a game set in the Old Republic, and one of my players is a scout for Czerka, and we're trying to come up with a name for the branch he works for that is subtly sinister.

>>51474365
Inalgra or Thalgra from what i can tell

>>51474864
Fug, spoiler tag didn't work right.
Czerka explo ration and facil itation

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>>51473954

>>51474979
yeah, I've been on the internet long enough that I'd do it with a woman of just about any species in the Star Wars universe that both shows any interest in me and passes the harkness test.

and I mean any species

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what's a great way to come up with ideas for planets that have unique and memorable feel to them?

>>51475073

You slut. I would never with a Sarlaac......Ok maybe I would.

>>51475223
>I would never with a Sarlaac
a Sarlaac would never pass the Harkness test, so neither would I.

>>51475178
Give them a reason to want to come back. It can be the sandiest Tatooine clone of all time, but if there's a junk dealer who owes your party money they'll remember it.

>>51475178
Travel. Bring a notepad and a camera. Alternately, start worldbuilding by using a particular quirk as a building block. For instance, the nature of a planet's main alcoholic beverage can say a lot about climate, geology, plant life, etc.

>>51475178
First and foremost a great name and cool wildlife.

>>51475236

How? We know it has the ability to communicate, and we know that they live thousands of years, and also it's reproduction cycle.

>>51475236
Wellll There's several stories that would disagree with you, they apparently leech minds through the force and become quite sapient.

>>51475310
>We know it has the ability to communicate
no it doesn't...

>>51475344
See >>51475343

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So apparently Hutts aren't hermaphrodites anymore.

>>51475387
>YOU MIRRIN BRAH

>>51475458
How does he do squats with no legs though?

>>51475488
>I have no legs and I must squat

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>>51475387
>Still attaching mysticism to light sabers.

It's just a magnetic field containing a stable plasma reaction.

I hope we get more non-force users having them just to open/cook beans right out of the can. Or at least have sith wannabes struggle to fight off more diversity hires.

The weapons mean nothing to the force. You might as well build a fanbase around a sharpened stick.

>>51474365
>>51474857

Definetly Inalgra

>>51475653
It's not really attaching mysticism, the hutt is just a massive jediboo that collects jedi relics.

>>51475687
>just a massive jediboo

So like 80% of StarWars fans?

I really hope the title to the new movie is correct and we have to redefine what makes someone a Jedi.

Does anyone have any suggestions one what kind of ship I should have my players operate from? System is Saga Edition, era is Old Republic circa 3500 BBY, and they're working for the Sith. Any help would be appreciated.

>>51475778
Dynamic-class freighter?

>>51474857
>>51475664

Doesn't seem to match any existing characters, so possibly someone FFG made up for the game?

So for AoR, what's a good way to hint to the players that they should try and assault an imperial position?

I really want to use of the mass combat rules from 'Friends Like These'

>>51475778
YT 1300 light freighter

>>51475985
Mass combat also shows up in Lead by Example, just sayin'.
Have something very bad happen if they don't start killing Imperials right now, like them calling in an orbital bombardment/reinforcements or leaking information on Rebel presence in the area. Or just have a higher-up order them to do it.

>>51475995
>YT-1300
>KOTOR era
you're trolling aren't you

>>51475653
Well the Kyber crystal that powers the saber is supposed to be attuned to the Jedi wielding it.

>>51476017
>Mass combat also shows up in Lead by Example, just sayin'.
don't have that book to reference just yet, need to save up some money first and I don't believe in using .pdfs

>>51476033
Who cares kotor isn't canon anyway

>>51476045
Didn't stop Finn from having a good run with it.

It's probably more to do with familiarity than anything else.

>>51476079
I'm sure >>51476033 cares greatly about authenticity and cannon, I'm personally not interested because the KOTOR era bores me to no end, Clone Wars and on is the time frame that I'm interested in.

>>51476045
Seeing as how in the new episode the crystal was also "attuning" to Sabine who isn't force-sensitive it may either be just force mumbo-jumbo or not jedi exclusive.

>>51470983
Obsession is at its most useful when it causes the players to make bad choices.

In the case of (being the very best), I think I would be tempted to play on it in two ways:
1) Introduce a mechanic with a lot of financial backing who is better than the PC - and is an ass about it.
2) Make it appear like actually, maybe, if he had the resources, and good equipment, he could exceed this guy.
3) Then bring in the Antagonist (Former Business Partner) with a windfall, a vengeance, and apparently now an opportunity to tear the party apart by funding the obsessive PC.


That also allows you to make the Imperial Officer antagonist a lot more of an immediate threat type character - which differentiates the two obligations. One is petty, nasty and vicious, the other is powerful and aggressive. Both are roughly as dangerous.

The Business antagonist could even be willing to patronise the entire party, what with all their debt. Keep the character with the obligation on their toes, and looking a little crazy when he is suspicious at every turn.
Make sure to give him his payoff, too.

Exile is a tough one, because it ties things to, I think a very particular character arc. At some point, make it make sense for the party to go back to the Exile's home.
Before then, make sure their past catches up to them every now and then. A guy in a bar, an awkward tussle in a spaceport. Help the player define the whats and whys of the Exile - the important thing is how the character feels about it. It is a burden and obligation even if they are still in that rebellious 'doesn't bother me' phase.

>>51471372
There are, actually, in the Force Awakens Beginner Game manual.

Shock Baton - Melee - +2 damage - crit 4 - engaged - 300 credits - disorient 3, stun setting

>>51475936
It's Inaldra. She was a Star Wars Galaxies NPC with Black Sun connections.

>>51475815
After looking through the Starships of the Galaxy book, I might have to go with that. I was looking for something less civilian smuggler oriented and something more assault carrier based; something that could take a beating, dish one out, and carry 5-15 personnel halfway across the galaxy in needed. I dunno though, I might just end up designing something to suit my needs better. The guides don't exactly have a lot on Sith Empire warships.

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>>51476079
>>51476130
Nucanon is AIDScancer and you have shit taste. I'm sorry you had to find out this way.

>>51476394
The KOTOR guide has a handful. Nothing really small enough for a party to arse around in (unless you get a civvie vessel) but it had a fair few.

>>51476194
Everyone is connected to the force
Only the people who are force sensitive can actually use it

>>51476431
Go away /v/

>>51476671
>he doesn't like nucanon
>m-must be /v/
Go back to tonguing Walt's frozen anus, or get some Tales of the Jedi comics and get to reading them

>>51476701
Oh great it's the "I hate because DIDNEY" faggot again. Why must you shitpost and ruin these threads? Go to /co/ or /tv/ if you wanna bitch/

>>51476451
Most of the guys in my group like the Citadel-Class, myself included, so I might just bump up the timeline for the campaign so they can gallivant around in that while destroying Republic assets. *shrugs*
The good thing is that it's a simple matter of altering some names and places, shouldn't be too hard. I'll still keep looking though, might be able to find an adequate replacement and rename it.

>>51476874
>n-no dude, I saw that inquisicopter webm once so that must mean everything disney is evil and everything not disney is perfection. There was literally no bad part in the entire pre-disney franchise

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>>51476927
>Implying the crazy bullshit of old canon wasn't part of what made it great.

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>>51477009

>nuCanon is great because wacky stuff like inquisicopters make it fun

I can spout retarded bullshit too.

>>51476927
>>51477009
>>51477148
So now we've established that both versions of canon have bullshit in them and those that try to claim otherwise are simply retarded. Anything else?

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>>51477148
>nuCanon is great because wacky stuff like inquisicopters make it fun

...yes?

>>51477329
>>51477148
>>51477009
>>51476927
I'm not a huge fan of the silly stuff like Sabercopters being part of Rebels since it's a major part of the new canon, but I'd have loved them in a goofy side story.

>>51477355
I'm still considering Rebels a goofy side story.

>Discord server I'm on wants me to run an EotE one-shot for them
>I agree
>they scatter like roaches and now I have two players out of a server of 25
>they cn't make characters or schedule to save their lives

McFucking kill me

>>51473512

There's Hammerheads in Rebels and Rogue One.

>>51477539
>can't schedule with two players
I'm scratchin' my head, desu.

>>51477579
The origins of the nucanon Hammerhead are still unknown. I don't think the story group has divulged when the nucanon Hammerhead-class was actually first built.

I made a PDF of screen grabs from various PDFs, grabbing whatever advantage/threat tables I could find. I also included information from some reference sheets I had. I'm not convinced this is EVERY table, but it's most of them.

If you/your players are ever at a loss as to how to spend your advantages in almost any situation, look here.

https://mega.nz/#!5xEB1IaL!CdnpN8RZXlcUrJs48eBN3-Lk256l7cMsxvNJdCETTwY

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What tools do you use to visualize uglies?

>>51478145
That looks rad as hell.

>>51478145
rip pics off of wookiepedia or google, then mash together in my head

>>51478145
That's pretty sweet. Have you looked into Stud.io anything? It's still in beta, and it shows, but it has a pretty sweet rendering engine attached to it:
http://studio.bricklink.com/v2/build/studio.page

>>51478286
It seems a little too beta for me. It looks promising, though.

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Hi.

Am I about to play a game set in the rebellion era using Saga Edition.

How shit is Saga Edition? Any not obvious trap options to avoid?

>>51478567
Did your GM ban the Jedi class, and if not how many others are playing it? Jedi are really good in Saga since to use the Force it is only one skill roll and with supplements they can get talents to replace a bunch of skill rolls with just Use the Force.

>>51478567
IIRC, jedi are pretty OP, as are certain scout builds

>>51478639
No, one jedi.

How fucked I am as a scounder who's supposed to be party's technician?

>>51469207

>has AY written on the side
>the cockpit looks like a cheeky grin

I like this ship.

Hey I have a Tournement on Sunday and its my first one... Could you suggest edits to my list or tell me if its good or bad.


https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v4!s!195:18,-1,-1:33:-1:;28:18:5:1:M.15;22:-1,-1:23:-1:U.124&sn=Aggressive

>>51471275
He comes up with a much better story for the Prequels, but finding a group of players that would agree with it will likely be prohibitive. Plus, the changes made there will reverberate through extra material that builds on the Prequels that was actually good like Clones Wars, Rebels, and some of the comics and novels.

>>51477663
>>51477579

The NuCanon Hammerheads as seen in Rebels first and then in Rogue One are based on older designs, but they themselves are not that old.

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Truely truely an ugly starfighter. Lord Vader deserves much better

>>51478567
I wouldn't call it shit because I'm a big fan of Saga Editions approach to talents. That said, Jedi are pretty OP. Oh, I also love that you can make a social character that can talk enemies down the condition track until they're noncombatants.

>>51478145
I just draw them. Crudely, but I can generally get the gist across.

>>51477921
Thanks anon, solid post.

>>51471428
>plot-holes
This is a red flag for someone who doesn't understand shit about films. No offense.

>>51478913
We don't know what your local meta is like. Looking at your list, if you're very familiar with flying it you can likely hold your own against a variety of lists. I think turret and bomb heavy lists will probably give you some trouble.

>>51479477
What do you mean? explain please, so I may improve my personage.

>>51479477
I wasn't joking, if you could explain it would greatly help, friend.

>>51479866
What are some glaring plot holes in TPM, AOTC and ROTS? I'm very interested to know.

>>51479923
Not him but I've already ranted about the fucking Kimonoins and there out of nowhere war machine.

Apart from that I can't really think of any.

>>51479923
Different anon here. How is Dexter the only person on Coruscant, and outside of Palps' conspiracy, who knows about Kamino? Why did nobody in the Jedi Archives notice that their Kamino records were tampered with, and why did nobody keep a backup of the files?

>>51479923
Dude, I didn't say I saw any when I first watched them. I can't think of any plot holes off the top of my head. I guess perhaps the flaws I saw and headcanoned out were all continuity issues with them and the OT, like Leia's memories of her mother and the shortened time for the DSII and what these two fine anons have pointed out.
>>51479985
>>51479989

>>51479989
>the only person
When on earth is that implied? Obi-Wan went to Dexter because he knows that Dex is a worldly (galaxyly?) guy and has far reaching connections and knowledge. I imagine there are a number of people who know about Kamino (though probably mostly wealthy nobles and the like who can afford a high-end clone, Kamino is a secret, far-flung planet beyond the Outer Rim it kind of tracks that its little-known).

>why did nobody in the Jedi Archives notice that their Kamino records were tampered with?
Imagine you're a librarian in a library so ridiculously enormous it would take one hundred readers one hundred life-times to read through all of it. How in the hell would you notice that a single, tiny piece of the most fringe knowledge possible had gone missing?

To make an analogy: would the librarian at the world's biggest library notice that a single-page entry about a 400 person village in Kazakhstan had been removed from a single book? Probably fucking not.

As to the actual deletion, I imagine that Sifo-Diyas was very careful in removing the information without making it obvious that it was missing.

>why did nobody keep a backup?
I imagine that Sifo-Diyas or a different agent deleted the backed-up files.

Of all of the "plot-holes" I've seen raise,d this has to be the least reasoned one I've read. The whole bounty-hunter hiring an assassin to send a droid to deploy some poisonous worms to kill a poorly-defended high-profile politician is a WAY bigger (and actually reasonable) gripe with AotC.

>>51479985
>>51479989
These are unanswered questions not plot holes. Some people assumed the same with Prometheus like for example the Black Goo. It deliberately left vague but it's not a plot hole.

>>51480013
> Leia's memories of her mother and the shortened time for the DSII
Infant Leia stares at Leia unlike Luke who cries. Leia gives Padme a very long look too. You can argue infants can't remember details but remember this is a series which features telekinetic magic powers.

The Death Star is easily explained; building the actual station was never the problem. The frame of it was done in less than 5 years. the problem was getting the superlaser to work correctly. It's incredibly easy to build a structure when you have billions of workers and droids. It also helps to know they built it before.

>>51480257
>How in the hell would you notice that a single, tiny piece of the most fringe knowledge possible had gone missing?
Probably by having droids that can parse that information in seconds.

>>51480257
That one is just overconfidence on both parties sides, the assassins and Obi and Ani's.
>>51480334
I said I'd already headcanoned it out and the death star one was stolen form the youtube moron up above.

>>51480369
And presumably a sizable staff of OJO rookies who don't have anything better to do. Given how seriously the main OJO members take their jobs, it stands to reason that the guardians of one of the galaxy's greatest information repositories would also keep a close eye on data editing records.

>>51480369
Most droids aren't really that smart and most Jedi dislike using them. Also established only Jedi/Sith can fuck with the archives.

I'd like to preface this all with the statement that I don't really care about stuff like this; Star Wars is a whimsical and high-flying space fantasy opera adventure, if stuff like this really detracts from your enjoyment of it you might be better suited to a different genre.

>>51480370
I mean, just the use of worms to me over a sniper makes no sense. Rare poisonous space-worms would probably be a lot more traceable than a single blaster bolt: everyone has blasters, not everyone has space worms.

>>51480369
>>51480396
It's said that Jedi don't really trust droids all that much. But assuming that the OJO has smart droids designed to check to see if anything is missing: I imagine Sifo-Diyas could have simply erased the Kamino data in a way that made it appear to have never been there in the first place. That, or he could have altered the droids' programming to erase the existence of the knowledge of said data as well.

Re: having rookies at the library. There is NO precedent for information being erased/the archives being tampered with prior to this instance (at least, contemporary to the OJO). The only people that have access to the Jedi Archives are Jedi. Recall that this occurred in a time before the Clone Wars, where large-scale conflict was rare, and the Jedi were still pretty peaceful and undisturbed. There was no reason to constantly suspect that someone was tampering with the archives, being that the only person capable of tampering would be a Jedi. Further, that a respected Jedi Master would be capable of sabotaging the archives would have, I imagine, been completely out of the question.

Yes, I imagine that the archive would've constantly had people studying and helping to run it, the incredibly extraneous nature of the data removed cannot be ignored.

It was a single record of a single,little-known system located literally outside the galaxy. This out of a recorded 50million inhabited systems.

>>51480370
>death star one was stolen youtube moron
It's literally in Catalyst and Tarkin. The Super Laser was the problem. Building a giant station was no problem the kyber crystals were.

>>51480257
You could spin the assassination thing two ways: 1) Nute Gunray is a petty dumbass who either required Amidala be killed as a part of him supporting the CIS or hired Jango as a side job since he was involved in the CIS stuff so they bumped elbows or 2) Dooku wanted the assassination attempt to be high profile and suspicious on purpose to try to trigger the investigation that would lead to the Jedi discovering the clone army, which was key to palpatine's plan to be granted emergency powers. The 2nd option makes more sense but either way it's pretty convoluted. I like the Obi Wan Investigates plot line though it's pretty cool and involves a lot of exciting set pieces

>>51480943
Your second point actually makes a lot of sense. the Obi-Wan investigation was my favourite part of the movie.

I kind of wish we could get a TV-series ala Clone Wars, or maybe even live-action, about Jedi investigators.

>>51480737
Yeah if those are legends they no longer matter to me, but I meant that it was a complaint the guy had in his video with Ep. 3 showing the superstructure a third of the way done. I never had a problem as I assumed that it was far more complex than I could understand and something must have taken the vast majority of the 20 year timespan up in construction of DS1.
>>51480700
well like this>>51480943 guy's number two it's fairly easy to puzzle out why he may have made that choice as opposed to something clean and quick.

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>>51481101
Obi-wan was the best part of the prequels in general. I'd love to see Ewan McGregor play him again in some kind of "prequelsequel".

>>51481131
>Yeah if those are legends they no longer matter to me
You realize those are both canon novels, right?

>>51481185
I did not, which is why I said that. I'm not aware of everything Star Wars just quite a bit of it, lol.

>>51481154
Obi-Wan donking around learning stuff about the Force/trying to rescue dissenters and old friends could be fun.

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>>51468993
Out of the way best ship coming through!

>TFW your party loves its ship

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>>51468993
For anyone that wants to run the "Sin of Damnation" in their game.

Enjoy this haunted train wreck of a ship. Pics incoming

>>51481349
Sounds pretty cool! Though Sins of Damnation sounds much more 40k than Star Wars

>>51482048
I admit im a 40k / Star wars fan. Might have been hitting it a little too much. My players enjoyed it nonetheless

>>51481349
>260000 credits
How is any group supposed to afford this thing?

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>>51482109
In our game they basically bought it using alliance funds

>>51482109
Saving up, and loans.

>>51482109
My group could afford it.

>>51482137
>>51482153
>>51482190
Do you guys share your money or do you have your own accounts. My group splits our credits evenly and we are always spending our credits on obligations and gear. We still have the un-upgraded YT1300 you start with.

>>51482229
How much money do you guys get?

My group usually divides the money between 3 of the 4 players on account of one being a droid owned by the party Jedi.

>>51482403
Depends on the job but usually 10000 credits before expenses split by four for each crew member

>>51482475
Your GM is giving you some real small potatoes jobs.

Which is fair enough, I guess, some people prefer the lower level play where the players can't get too ridiculous.

Meanwhile I let my players pull off a heist with a payout in the six digits so I guess I'm the opposite.

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>>51481349
>>51482048
>>51482109
>>51482190
>>51482229
Pics of the Blight

>>51479923
there aren't that many plot holes, as the plot isn't the major problem with the prequels.
How that plot is presented, there are some massive problems there.

There are some premise holes, but those aren't the same thing. Stuff like "how the fuck does Naboo's government function?", or "twf can the trade federation legally do/not do because they make no damn sense as a legal entity under a unified government", or "how can the Jedi have such extreme requirements for training and staying a Jedi, but force sensitives who aren't Jedi somehow not a thing that comes up".
But all those are problems with the basic premises for the plot, not the plot that comes from those premises.

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>>51482612
Holyshit that's an ugly ship. I would refuse to help buy if my party wanted it. Here have an actual sexy looking ship

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>>51478145
Sketchup.

But since I'm not very good, it ends up looking like ass anyway.

Maybe that's the point?

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Im looking at building a small fleet of pirate ships for my rebels to board and steal in an upcoming AoR game, and designing the ships is fine, I just have no idea what to put inside them.

Can anyone point me at like, a pack of furniture or something for using for ship deck plans?

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>>51482787
Ugly ships are the bread and butter of Star Wars.

>>51482612
But that's some really fugly art. Have you considered, lego, sketchup, or... powerpoint?

Also, that poor squashed text. It hurts my eyes.

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>>51482819
Bam:http://thompsonpeters.com/eote/deckplans_transports/

http://www.colonialchrome.co.uk/Pages/Root_1_A_Starships.html

>>51482827
But you posted a ship that looks cool af.

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>>51482879
I'd like to say it was deliberate, but I clicked on the wrong file.

This one better?

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>>51473124
Looks kind of tiny to me.

>>51482868

This sort of shit is fantastic, and those are good sources anon, thank you.

But i meant like, just stuff to put inside my own deck plans and layouts. Furniture, consoles, doohickeys, shit like that.

I can probably cut up some of these and steal them though.

>>51482933
Yeah thats more like it. Ugly ship is ugly

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>>51482979
Official sources say otherwise.

>>51482995
>>51482933

It's sexy in a really shit way.

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>>51483003
Huh. Well there you go then.
>>51482980
Yeah, sorry, you could try looking up generic sci-fi 2D assets from Roll20 or other map programs, but that's about it. I'd say cut up those designs or just steal them wholesale. There's also a capital ships page on that website if you're interested in larger vessels.

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>>51483005
Nah Asymmetry is a mothafuckin meme

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>>51482995
>>51483005
Real starships have curves.

And bulges.

And flanges.

And solar panels

Folding solar panels

And that distinctive TIE fighter whine.

>>51483034

It's all good, that site's fucking great, I appreciate it!
I can just pick apart one of the bigger ships and steal it's interiors wholesale.
I just want to deck out some ships like theyre q-ship 'merchants' and pirate carriers, just ripe for stealing and converting for Rebellion use.

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>>51483076
I'd be less concerned about deckplans and schematics that your group will look at for about 5 minutes, and more concerned about making memorable, evocative, and well-described starship.

>>51473124
Does this murderboat have a hyperdrive, and is it statted in FFG?

>>51483118
Definitely, but since they're gonna be setpieces for their first assignment, as well as becoming their base of operations later, I don't want to half ass either part you know?

>>51481266
They're both canon. Like I said, the Death Star station was not the problem. In Catalyst, the Geonosians had living sections done in months. The kyber crystals were a big problem especially when Galen left the project.

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>>51483261
No, but there's fan made stats from the forum that I turned into a stat block.

>>51482690
>Stuff like "how the fuck does Naboo's government function?"
How does Bespin's government work? How does the Ewok chieftain system work? What's the government situation on Tattoine? It's irrelevant to the plot.

>twf can the trade federation legally do/not do because they make no damn sense as a legal entity under a unified government"
It's explained in the movie. They're having a trade dispute where they are blockading the planet. The invasion was illegal but they did it in a way to prevent evidence until Sidious took control. Its extremely clear Palpatine lied to the Trade Feds for the whole thing.

>"how can the Jedi have such extreme requirements for training and staying a Jedi, but force sensitives who aren't Jedi somehow not a thing that comes up"
when has this ever been an issue? We've RARELY seen force sensitive individuals in Star Wars untrained. Cirruit and Leia and special cases because the Jedi were gone but again none of this is relevant to the main story plot.

>>51483390
Cool, thanks for the stat block.

Too bad it's not from an FFG book my GM is a bit of a stickler when it comes to user generated content.

>>51483458
Shame. Maybe if you're lucky it'll turn up in No Disintegrations.

>>51483433
>How does Bespin's government work? How does the Ewok chieftain system work? What's the government situation on Tattoine? It's irrelevant to the plot.
except that a major member of the Naboo government is a major character in the plot, the political relationships with the Naboo government is the starting conflict of the plot, and unlike those other three systems the government in Naboo actively does not make sense.

Also
>Bespin
A single business enterprise ran by Lando on an otherwise uninhabited system, no true government but technically under the power of the Empire.
>Ewoks
appears to follow a standard tribal system with a singular chieftain adviced by elders.
>Tattoine
Criminal capitalism controlled by the Jabba the Hutt.

>We've RARELY seen force sensitive individuals in Star Wars untrained.
exactly, but according to the stricture of becoming and staying a Jedi, only a very few number of those force sensitives should become Jedi, less than one in a thousand if that. Where are the rest?

>>51483433
>They're having a trade dispute where they are blockading the planet.
That would be Illinois blockading Michigan. Or Scotland blockading Wales.
They are both members of a single government, when is blockading a legitimate action between members of a government?

>>51483349
Thanks for the info, i'll likely never read them and just get the cliffnotes from the wook but thanks none the less.

>>51483755
Could have been on some falsified trade deals where Naboo was stiffing the Federation so they took matters into their own hands to settle the debt.

>>51483064
Those ball turrets are absolutely fucking sick.

>>51482109
Theft.

>>51483700
>Where are the rest?
Are we talking Legends or nucanon?

Is it just me, or is Distracting Behavior from the Performer specialization really fucking useless?

>only generates one threat
>maybe generates two if you go all the way down the fucking tree that isn't Biggest Fan
>but that two only works on allies tho

I mean fuck, the only thing worse is Deceptive Taunt.

>>51484228
It's pretty much an awful specialisation all round.

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>>51484228
Why would anyone pick that shitty meme specialization in the first place?

>>51482933
How would it even fly? The engines are all on one side.

>>51484332
What the fuck are those sabers supposed to be? How the fuck do you fight with those without slicing yourself open?

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>>51484341
It'd probably be really bad in atmosphere, that's for sure.

>>51484355
The Force.

>>51484332
>Papyrus copyright notice
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>51484327
>>51484332
Mistakes were made. Also because Biggest Fan is amazingly good bait for such a trap of a class.

>>51484228
Nearly all ranked talents tend to be shit if you go down a route that has almost no ranks in it. If you do get all the ranks in the tree, and the improved version, you're easily dishing out 3-6 threat to multiple people for 3 strain that can apply to any check, not just combat ones. So if the people you're distracting are playing sabacc or negotiating with your ally, you can really fuck them over.

Deceptive Taunt is pretty great as well. You taunt the fucker and just book it. And they're chasing your around, unable to do anything else until they finally get a hit on you, which could potentially be never if you're using Coordination Dodge. Not to mention the non-combat applications where you can taunt somebody and get them kicked out of an event for knocking you on your ass.

Not everything is about combat, especially a specialization about being a performer.

>>51484438
How do you get more than one threat to work with it? The NPCs you use it on only suffer one, and upgrading only increases the range.

>>51484110
the prequel movies actually, but sure any book set during that time period written after the PT was made.

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>>51484355
Psssh you sound weak...

>>51483912
>taking matters into their own hands
How is that legal behavior for a member of a government towards another member?

>>51484438
Stop trying to defend a piece of shit specialization like performer.

>>51484438
Getting more ranks in Distracting Behaviour does nothing but improve range.

>>51484473
Untrained Force users tend to not do much if anything with their talents, at most they'll be really good at one or two things - kind of like Anakin being really good at fixing things and piloting.

Also, the prequels were about the downfall of the Jedi - untrained Force sensitives don't really have a place in the story for those films.

>>51484438
>You taunt the fucker and just book it. And they're chasing your around, unable to do anything else until they finally get a hit on you, which could potentially be never if you're using Coordination Dodge.
They just have to attack you next turn. That's it. They don't have to hit.

>>51484458
You're right, my mistake in glossing over it. So while it's not nearly as effective as I mistakenly said, and is only 1-2 threat, that's still 1-2 threat you're dishing out at up to long range, which means you can be at a pretty safe distance. The much smaller amount of threat likely won't be especially effective, but it can be enough to stop a critical from happening in combat, or could help lightsaber users in getting the threat they need to use improved parry/reflect.

>>51484542
But that means you have to nearly finish a tree so that you can become incredibly average at combat support. And it's only stretched to medium range, since it starts at engaged and the Improved version doesn't count as a rank in the original talent.

>>51484542
Or you could just kill the fucker using a non shit specialization.

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>>51484473
If you mean straight up purely untrained, they didn't really do a whole lot, and generally couldn't do a whole lot. Training was usually necessary to focus that power into a useful form. If you just mean Force wielders who weren't trained in the OJO's ways, then Legends had plenty of obscure Force traditions with their own methods and doctrines. For OJO recruits who simply couldn't git gud, they got sent to the AgriCorps and other benchwarmer divisions of the OJO.

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What would cause an Inquisitor to abandon the Empire? Would a search for greater power be worth it? What about being a kinda sorta not Sith like Maul

>>51484588
>For OJO recruits who simply couldn't git gud, they got sent to the AgriCorps and other benchwarmer divisions of the OJO.
Those were voluntary, though. What about people who decide humanitarian work isn't for them and just fuck off?

>>51484626
Betrayal from the Empire, and subsequently being hunted by it.

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>>51484626
Falling in love with the wrong girl?

>>51484626
Inquisitor discovers something they shouldn't, or seems to be getting a little too powerful in the force, so Vader puts down the kill order.

>>51484626
Being darkside is all about power and control, as an inquisitor/Sith assassin you mave have power and control over other servants of the darths, but ultimately you're deliberately gimped so you have neither over a real darth. The only way up is out.

>>51484710
Seeing as Orange Roman Reigns got let off the hook in TCW, HR probably wouldn't be too worried about weak, untrained rookies.

>>51484402
Swimming through raw sewage to grab candy at the end is never a good idea, anon.

>>51484526
but the possiblity of Anakin not being trained or being kicked out were important posiblities in those movies, and the alternative was never discussed.
That's a problem.

>>51484745
what if they decided, after being fully trained.
"you now what, I'd like to get married"".

Also what did Palp do about the tens of thousands or more of untrained or half trained force sensitives

So I'm probably opening a can of worms but here goes.

So we were having our first Age of Rebellion session. The only real "house rule" if you could call it that is that the Force Sensitives have Morality in addition to Duty.

So the party droid has an ion blaster and gets the drop on two storm troopers knocking them unconscious during a firefight while the other four troopers are killed. No biggie, happens in combat. The entire combat's over in a couple of seconds and nobody else in the base seems to have heard it so they don't have to worry about reinforcements.

Thing is as they're assessing the situation the Exile decides to kill the two unconscious troopers. He justifies it by saying the troopers would have woken up eventually and might have alerted others to their presence.

It may have been motivated by pragmatism but he still killed helpless opponents when he could have bound, gagged, and hid them. I even pointed out that he would be finishing off somebody who can't fight back but he shrugged it off.

Now admittedly if those troopers were bound and woke up a couple of hours later they could have possibly escaped. Still I felt the action warranted conflict points which unsurprisingly led to a morality decreased.

Do you all think I handled it well? I think I did but at the same time giving him the full 10 conflict for murder suggested in Force and Destiny might have been a little too much.

Thoughts swg?

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>>51483960
Refit them with these bad boys. Aww yeah.

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>>51482109
>How is any group supposed to afford this thing?

Theft, bribery, coercion, bad repairs, old debts, transfer of property, lies, slander, political manipulation, mind control, and/or gambling.

Whatever makes the story interesting.

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>>51484341
This is Star Wars. Nobody gives two shits about physics.

>>51485009
Murder is murder, you did fine. Conflict symbolizes the PC feeling conflicted, so it's all good.

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>>51485009
>the Exile decides to kill the two unconscious troopers.

So the thing is, this is Space Opera.

The troopers wouldn't wake up until the plot demanded it.

The conflict here isn't that the player thought "gee, this reveals an interesting pragmatic/dark aspect about my character". It's "gee, this makes a fuck ton of sense in D&D. I should do that or the GM is going to fuck me over later."

It's a setting expectation.

I'd go over the tone and nature of a space opera game with the player, rescind any points, and chalk it up to a learning experience. Say "If you want to do this in the future, that's fine, but it's not a requirement of the setting. It should be used to further the development of your character, but not to punish an action that would be 'sensible' in a grittier, less heroic game."

Just try and get on the same page as the player.

If the player says, "No, it's cool, that's what I wanted, and I knew about the expectations of the setting," then sure, give 'em the points and be done with it.

>>51483700
>Naboo actively does not make sense
How? Padme is acting queen with a powerful council of advisers. We've had similar kingdoms and governments in real world history. Some even younger than Padme.


>A single business enterprise ran by Lando on an otherwise uninhabited system
We know he's an important administrative but we dont know if he answers to a city council or has elected mayors.

>standard tribal system
Tribes can be extremely complicated with complex hierarchy and family structures. One tribe adopts the Rebels but its otherwise irrelevant.

>Criminal capitalism controlled by the Jabba the Hutt.
We never find this out until ROTJ or TPM when we learn that actually control the entire system because its a plot point for Anakin's slavery.

>Where are the rest?
The Jedi were pretty arrogant and complacent in the prequels. They didn't think they needed that many members.

>>51485009
>It may have been motivated by pragmatism
That's the thing, he's sacrificing his ideals for the pragmatic solution, the path to hell is paved with good intentions. You did fine.

>>51484947
>what if they decided, after being fully trained.
>"you now what, I'd like to get married"".
They'd be bounced from the order and possibly the jedi would keep tabs on them, because they left to do something 'dangerous'

>>51483755
The Republic is closer to the UN or NATO than the USA. The Trade Federation technically isn't even a nation but a massive trading corporation. Gunray even says the blockade is perfectly legal because he's refusing a client over a dispute.

>>51485068
In that player's defense, just because the movies and setting are Space Opera doesn't mean that stuff like that is completely wrong. A tabletop game is generally going to deal with a bit more grit simply because it involves player choice rather than a film railroad to the finish. Thinking about how your actions of inactions have consequences is important. Yeah he deserves conflict for his actions, but making people choose between ethics and results is kind of the point of having conflict. Now if he's merely doing things because he's meta gaming/ assuming it's always him vs GM that's bad role playing, but it is all out war against a cruel and powerful Empire. You can have a good feels campaign about saving the galaxy and still have Han shoot first from time to time

>>51485119
This legit happened to one of the Lost 20 in Legends she left to just have a regular family. She must have been pissed that Ki-Adi-Mundi got a free pass for 5 wives because "muh dying race"

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>>51485152
My whole post can be summarized as "Only penalize players for actions that violate the tone of your game /if/ the tone of the game has been made clear."

In a Rogue One style game, where the expectations had been made abundantly clear, I wouldn't give any points for this.

In a Return of the Jedi style game, sure, it's worth points.

But it really depends on the tone of the game and the tone of the scene. The players and the GM need to be on the same page.

Also, this isn't on the player. It's on the GM. Their game, their tone - and their job to communicate it clearly and unmistakably.

>>51485189
I'd still give conflict in a rogue one style game; a key point of the movie is that Cassian feels shitty about the kind of stuff he has to do. But I agree with you the players and GM need to be on the same page about what they want out of the tone of the game.

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>>51485234
Right. Cassian feels bad about gunning down an ally. He'd feel /less/ bad about casually shooting two downed stormtroopers in the middle of a fight/chase, but he might feel worse if there was a long pause where he was able to contemplate his actions.

It's all about context and tone.

>>51485102
>we've had similar governments
no we haven't
Because Padme was elected to the top executive office, which was weirdly called a queen, for a limted term, as a teenager.
Then at the end of her term, was elected as the Senator top legislative body that exists, barely out of her teens.

If it was an actual monarchy it would be like systmes we've had, but it's not.

And yes we do know that about Lando, Han and Lando tell each other this.

>>51485009

Remember, intent and action.

Action is killing somebody helpless, two of them at that. That's the full blown 10+ normally. Maybe down a couple points if you know they're really evil and bad. Intention is "I don't want to deal with these guys again". That's pretty cold, calculating. The path of a guy who is going to rationalize some shit, take some Conflict and at the end of the session or whatever your rolling period is is definitely going down some morality as he clearly does not feel bad about ending some lives.

And if it was anything close to his emotional weakness, totally should have been doubled.

>>51485152

Well, also Han Solo isn't trying to walk upon a higher moral ground.

This is part of the sacrifice you make for the "power" of being able to use the force. You want to be good, you have to try and be good, and righteous and a positive force in the universe. You must be willing to stare Sheev dead in the face, throw away your weapon and say "I am a Jedi, like my father before me."

Note - falling to the Dark Side is not a negation of your character, and is very ambiguously mechanically "bad". It means the narrative is more likely to turn against the group and you're easier to set-off or stress out. Probably because nobody on the Dark Side looks super healthy.

>>51485268
Cassian feels so bad about shooting an imperial weapons/space station designer that he doesn't go through with it.

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>>51486013
Well, yes, but Galen had taken levels in "Main Character".

Space Opera is weird that way. Cassian didn't try to prevent he massacre or anything else.

Kind of a moot point though. RPG morality systems are always messy like this.

Where were all the TIE fighters during the Rebel Transports' flight from Hoth?

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>>51486528
Presumably, they were tied up by the transports' starfighter escorts.

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>>51486528
Narrative: they weren't needed

Speculation: TIE fighters seem to be launched only when an attack is imminent, or set to patrol around a stable base. A Star Destroyer that just dropped out of hyperspace wouldn't nessesarily launch patrols or pickets immediately.

It's also possible that the Star Destroyers, having just finished launching the AT-ATs and assault craft, weren't configured to rapidly launch fighters.

From a storytelling point of view, it doesn't really matter either way.

>>51486528
I think the ISD was likely ioned before it could deploy them

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WuJWjbfa-PdrOxPTL_qWAaxh6CjqDdUpWP-bdhRXy5A/edit?usp=sharing

Special Objectives for an upcoming Epic X-Wing game. Completing one of these grants one Victory Point. They're rolled randomly at the start of each round you don't have an objective in.

Team with the most Victory Points at the end of the match wins. VPs are also earned by escorting a Rebel Transport across the entire map(Rebels) or by destroying the transport(Scum). Transports spawn periodically. Scum players simply join either side.

VPs can also be spent to call in reinforcements, which are 100 point squadrons played by whatever players happen to be around the shop.

>>51486696
>destroying the transport(Scum)
*(Imperials)

>>51486603
god i hope that makes it into the movies.
that's one sexy tie bomber

Is there any way to play a Jedi survivor and not feel super guilty about it? God damn, they all feel like special snowlfakes.

How does anyone ever do this?

>>51486603
>TIE Bizarro reimagined as a legitimately cool looking fighter
I love it so much.

>>51487226
Roleplay the trauma and fear that would stem from Order 66 realistically.

>>51487446

I feel bad playing any Jedi at all.

>>51487226
play as a broken wastrel who only survived because he passed out from partying at the time of order 66

>>51487226
Realise canon doesn't matter.

>>51487681

I'm thinking a Sentinel who was already off well-buried in some crime investigation on the Rim or a Consular who objected to the Jedi becoming so embroiled in the war and exiled herself.

So the Selonians are fetish bait, right?

I'm a furry amd I'd still feel bad playing one of these.

>>51487716
thats a fairly plausible reason to have survived order 66, without being able to replace luke

whats the best way to introduce a speeder bike chase?

>>51487988

An alarm goes off, something explodes, and the only thing in front of our heroes is an open garage door and exactly as many speeder bikes as there are party members.

>>51487988
Do it like this Anon say >>51487995 but up the cool factor by having the building/structure they are in being on the verge of destruction via a self destruct or various chain reactions, etc

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>>51487988
Rodian steals your wallet, kicks you in the knee with his steel cap boots and runs off down the street!

>>51487988
Swoop bike gang flies by shouting insults and applies lead pipe to the head of one of the PCs. Luckily there are a bunch of unlocked speederbikes parked nearby. Que chase and Full Throttle style bike-to-bike melee combat

>>51486528
If the Empire had deployed fighters and bombers for ground attack they would have quickly destroyed the shied generator and made way for an orbital bombardment, as well as intercepting any fleeing ships.

So then all the rebels would be dead. And then we don't have a story. The Imperial attack plan was dumb because it needed to be.

>>51489847
TIE fighterss and bombers travel too fast and would crash into the shield instead of penetrating it. AT-ATs and AT-STs travel at a speed slow enough to "bleed" through the shield.

And if three ImpStars can't take down the shield a few TIEs won't even do diddley to it

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>>51487988
The party is challenged to a card game.

>>51489869
>TIE fighterss and bombers travel too fast and would crash into the shield instead of penetrating it.

Of course, with repulsors they can just hover and inch forward as fast or slow as they like.
But whilst doing that, they'll get torn apart by the Rebel's defence emplacements.

The AT-ATs however are armored enough to shrug off most ground weapons pretty well. Shouldve just used x-wings and torpedos, but hey.

>>51487732
No you aren't a real furry because Selonians aren't furbait in the slightest unless you make them into it

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>>51473124
>Just played FTL
>See Mantis ships in SWG

Remove mantis

>>51489869
The shields at Hoth couldn't be curved. Theoretically it'd be possible for a flight of TIEs to take the long route and blow the generator (this actually happened in my campaign) but Veers wanted his day in the sun. Also those T-47s would have a shot at taking them down with their guns instead of being utterly fucked in the case of the walkers.

>>51490134
Repulsors are shorted out by shields. Why the AAT's didn't float through the Gungan shield on Naboo.

>>51490489

They are?
Neat, I dont remember reading about that anywhere. Must remember to throw that at my players.

So im planning on having my party take some jobs from some bothan gangsters in Eote. Any ideas for what type of jobs they would be sent on.

>>51490836
Spying.

>>51490458
What are you on about? All shield generators produce a shield dome. Only way for a a shield dome to not reach reach the ground is if the surrounding area around it prevents it. A good example would be from the YJK novels where the Jedi Academy shield dome cuts out about 10 or so meters from the ground due to Yavin IVs jungle surrounding the Jedi academy. And that was barely enough for a two commando TIE pilot to sneak in.

>>51490836
>crack open rival gangsters stash of [illegal substance]
>implicate rival ganster in a crime
>steal valuable piece of art for ganster boss
>deliver a spaceship to rival gang boss. As a token of peace spaceship is rigged to blow a day after they deliver it, so they best be snappy about it

Play any of the Mafia or Ganster games and you have a treasure trove of ideas

>>51490949
I was also kinda leaning towards GTA but anyway thanks.

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I need images! Images of inquisitors!

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>>51491294
Okay that's my folder exhausted, hope it helps anon.

>>51491314
It does. Thank you.

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>>51491027

are the animal companions in the seeker book worth pursuing or did they waste a big chunk of a perfectly good sourcebook on something dumb

>>51491748
Mounts are cool.

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>>51491748
They're alright, but they don't fit in every campaign.

>>51487226
Space Ronin, but be like an actual Ronin and not like weebscum.

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>>51492131
This.
>tfw we'll never get an Obi-Wan Yojimbo movie

>>51492188
The gun guy's face is great. Also, I really need to see that film, my campaign is getting very Jedi focused so I need all the samurai I can get.

>>51492330
you should probably see all of his Samurai films.

Also, after watching Yojimbo, watch Fist Full of Dollars.

If any of you have played WEG D6, are the 1e space rules better than the 2e space rules?

So Friday is going to be the first time I run edge of the empire.

I have no clue what I should do for a first session.

Please help.

>>51492787
Character creation like any other RPG dumbass

>>51492787
Chargen and the beginner box adventure.

>>51492787
I did character creation, a minor social encounter with their employer, a hutt, then they fought some B1s and stole their ship.

>>51492787

Character gen, then the party are hired by Sienar Fleet Systems to 'keep an eye' on Rath Sienar while he is visiting a world on the Outer Rim.

>>51493333
>keep an eye
So.. kill him?

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>>51493343

No.

*Someone* has to try to keep up with his spice and alcohol fuelled escapades. Some bright spark realised that they could hire some randoms and blame them for the property damage.

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>>51493343
If the players are Rebel sympathizers, sure. But pro-Imp players will definitely want to keep him alive. He's one of the most brilliant minds in the Empire. Keeping him alive and supplied with a reliable, clean supply of drugs would be of paramount importance. His death would cripple Imperial starfighter R&D.

>>51493449
Or, if they're rebels, attempt to tempt him into defecting. How? That's up to you, but you've been given FULL access to the rebellion's Strategic Dope Reserve for this mission