Commander General- /edhg/

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>>51422917
Unused art edition

>>51422917
>Do you have a favorite MTG artist or era of design? Do you go out of your way to find specific artwork sometimes?

I will admit to knowing almost nothing about MtG artists. There's a few pieces I like enough that I'd want to have them on a playmat, though.

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>>51422917
I love mike kerr's work

i like to keep my lands exclusively one artist per deck. chippy is love

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>>51423208
Woops, got artists swapped.

And Harold Mcneill

>>51422917

can someone explain to me what is happening in this photo? Cause it looks like gid and chandra are getting boiled alive or something.

>>51423231
I'm guessing Gideon is using indestructibility to shield chandra from smelter demon

>>51423231
looks to me like gideon is shielding chandra with his invincibility shtick and chandra is veru angry mad because reasons

are there more "don't touch muh board" generals than avacyn?

>>51423109
kozilek's a squidkid?

>>51423296
actually the tenctacles are his head, he walks upside down. the "arms" are legs and the dome thing at the top is his anus.

>>51423231
After Dovin Baan sabotages the Hope of Ghirapur, Chandra and Gideon barge into the Aether Spire. Chandra uses the "technique" of essentially achieving nuclear fusion on a smaller scale by concentrating all of her flames into a marble-sized sphere, and Gideon shields the both of them from the explosion. They survive both the explosion and the building collapsing because Gideon is FUCKING INVINCIBLE, unknowingly almost killing Liliana in the midst of her duel with Tezzeret.

>>51423231
they're in the Hope of Ghirapur thopter, hurtling towards the planar bridge. Chandra is charging up for an explosion, Gideon is protecting them both from it.

Source: i'm a nerd who reads magic story

>>51423311

Damn it. Woulda been perfect if Lilly and Tezz both bit it there.

Also, Gid and Chandra for life. Fuck the elf.

>>51423311
>>51423323
Can we just talk about how Gideon is able to survive a point-blank blast from what's probably around 3 pounds of dynamite and a subsequent building collapsing on him? What the fuck?

>>51423369

Why? He's totally invincible as long as he has time to prepare/activate his magic

>>51423369
Obliterate doesn't hit planeswalkers, anon.

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>>51423369

>>51423369
he's indestructible, he aint gotta explain shit.

No, really, if my thromok can nail a darksteel myr for 5.42x10^44 damage and it's just fucking fine, what difference does an explosion and building collapse make?

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>>51423403
>tfw you're only invincible as long as you aren't being held face-down into two inches of muddy water

>>51423403
We need a Gideon edit of that

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>join random 3 player EDH game on cockratice
>players countries: America, America, Israel
>jew plays yidris
>it's a chaos deck
>possibilty storm
wtf
why do jews have to ruin everything

>>51423453
>he can't cast his dank U sorceries and instants

cry more

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>>51423461
Oh I see you're the kind that thinks lol randumb xDDD is fun.

>>51423453

>Stop having YOUR type of fun, have MY type instead (and lose to me) >:(

>>51423533
you're the type that doesn't recognize people can build their decks to function through Possibility Storm's disruption

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>>51423453

Thread poll time since we had some interesting discussion on it a few threads ago

>Who is currently the most interesting/well-written character of the Gatewatch?
>Who is the least interesting/worst-written character of the Gatewatch?
>What has been the greatest strength and weakness of post-BFZ storytelling?
>What writing practices would improve the overall quality of post-BFZ storytelling?
>Who is the best/worst current writer for WotC?

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>Do you have a favorite MTG artist or era of design? Do you go out of your way to find specific artwork sometimes?
I think Chris Rahn is my favorite? I dunno, I really just like his work and rarely look at his cards and think the work is bad. His muted colors are nice to lead into bursts of bright color that he usually incorporates. Howard Lyon is really cool too, his works remind me of stuff with a heavy influence of renaissance era oil paintings. Christopher Moeller is another one that I really like the looks of, his works tend to just be colorful and full of interesting shapes and lineworks. Oh! Karl Kopinski is cool too. I like his sketches and muddy thick paintings

I used to really like Igor Kierulyk and Johannes Voss but I feel they have had some recent pieces that just fall flat or look like it was done with no passion or just laziness or an incredibly impossible deadline.

As for older eras of card art, Carl Critchlow is cool. Kev Walker is solid and he's still at it today. Guay and Neilson obviously.

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>>51423582
>people who think that completely shutting off most other decks is fun

That Guy at my LGS plays yidris chaos with possibility storm for no other reason than 'It's fun!!!' He also has knowledge pool in the same deck, for the same reason. There's a difference between building Mishra and finding one of very few ways to exploit his ability, and jamming a card into a chaos deck because it's fun.

>>51423642
that does sound fun on occasion

>>51423642

Hm, you atribute that to me but I never said that. I'm simly defending player playing how they want to play.

If it was a real problem it'd be banned, right?

>>51423687
(haven't slept, excuse typos)

>>51423599
>Most interesting
Jace. He's come a long way from the typical cocky blue mage he was originally.

>Least interesting
Nissa. When Gideon's more interesting than you are, you have a problem.

>Greatest strength and weaknesses
The greatest strength is creating unity throughout blocks by having a group of protagonists, Weatherlight style. Greatest weakness is that, frankly, some of the stories are shit, and the amount of plot armor our protagonists have makes things boring.

>Writing practices
Biggest thing I've noticed is that pacing is hit or miss. Characterization is sometimes iffy as well. Working on fixing those two would go a long way.

>Best/worst writer
Off the top of my head, Alison Luhrs and Chris L'Etoile are great, but there are plenty of good writers among the team. As for worst, I'm not much a fan of Kimberly Kreines.

>>51423599
>Who is currently the most interesting/well-written character of the Gatewatch?
Jace, most development by far. He's not just a colour archetype guy.

>Who is the least interesting/worst-written character of the Gatewatch?
Nissa? I like her nods to being a loner that is weirded out by company though.
Chandra's constant IAMREDAAAAAAAA, annoys me a bit too.
They all need more time.

>What has been the greatest strength and weakness of post-BFZ storytelling?
I actually like following the gatewatch in an overarching plot (I've seen a lot of hate for it)

>What writing practices would improve the overall quality of post-BFZ storytelling?
Maybe just me being an aut, but they (Chandra especially) talk like people talk in modern IRL times.
I think it's a bit weird, I dunno. Not too much of a problem though. Bad explaination, sorry.

>Who is the best/worst current writer for WotC?
Chris L'Etoile has done some great stuff reccently.

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>>51423685
>>51423687
It's not that the card's a problem, it's that the card is obnoxious and playing it for the wrong reasons is doubly so. I didn't drive to the store to play RNGfest 2017. If I wanted that, I'd play Hearthstone and save the gas money.

Possibility Storm isn't broken, it's just stupid. It's nowhere near even Prophet of Kruphix's power level.

>at LGS after class, had time to kill
>end up playing some 1v1 using endrek vs shattergang
>he starts to get a lead and taking chunks out of my life
>finally get endrek out with zulaport, vampric rites and greed
>dig a shit ton to get real low from attacks
>almost get chunked for lethal
>remember the last time i used tainted strike in a mono black deck and screwed myself over from not getting lethal
>essentially end up foging to get more creatures and falkenrath noble out as well to start sacrificing
>end up winning

felt good

>>51422917
>favorite MTG artist
all i know is i started collecting rebecca guay cards before i even looked at the illustrators' names. best era is maybe kamigawa to zendikar.

>dankest tribal tech
oona rogues or eldrazi

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>>51424090
forgot pic

>>51423453
>EDH

It's called Commander you fucking retard.

>>51423533
And by that you easily spot yourself as the kind who only plays counterspells since that card is only good against those.

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Post format gems

>>51424363
Such a good card, but I can never find room for it.

>>51424432
Just play it in any mono-G deck and laugh at your opponents' attempts to counter/remove your big threats

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>>51423208
What a shame Harold McNeill doesn't do art for MtG anymore, all of his stuff is great. Wasn't he like a neo nazi though?

>>51424930
Yeah check out his website, he makes a lot of weird occult nazi shit now. Looks pretty dope though, besides the whole nazi thing.

>>51423642
I don't play Possibility Storm in anything, but shutting off other's decks is the best way to play. Preferably by nuking their mana base.
>Rifting at the last opponent's end step
>on my turn cast Armageddon
>play Halimar Depths and enjoy all the mana rocks I have

>>51425017
I really don't have any issues with nazi stuff. Their logos and other artwork were stylish as hell, people are just too sensitive about the thing.
It might be just me, I just like the way they look and seems like it's an assumption that I am a nazi as well then.

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>>51424363
>play Yeva flash draw-go
>build up a nice board
>cradle, seedborn, avenger, etc
>player next to me starts to sweat
>he plays grixis control
>starts hatching a scheme
>bullshits other players into his plan
>casts a damnation
>pact in response
>he counters it with a smug face
>slam down Temur Sabretooth
>cast witness into another pact
>fetch pic related
>bounce witness to hand
>let damnation resolve
>cast pic related two/three times
>kill the control guy with 20+ tokens
>make bear puns while he scoops

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>>51423369

:^)

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Yo, let's play a game! Post secret tech/a pet card from your deck, then say the primary color of the deck and how many colors the deck is. Person who gets it right gets...whatever you feel like giving them!

Here's mine. Primary color of the deck is Black, deck is two colors. Good luck!

>>51425352
krenko

>>51423599

>>Who is currently the most interesting/well-written character of the Gatewatch?
imo Gideon, they're actually showing him slightly unsure about what they're doing in Kaladesh, while the others seem that are just there to fuck shit up/blindly follow chandra

>>Who is the least interesting/worst-written character of the Gatewatch?
Least interesting Nissa, worst written Liliana

>>What has been the greatest strength and weakness of post-BFZ storytelling?
They are showing more of the planes they visit, even if they don't go away from the gatewatch

>>What writing practices would improve the overall quality of post-BFZ storytelling?
Keeping the writers consistent with the characters


>>Who is the best/worst current writer for WotC?
No idea.

>>51425357
>Krenko
>Two colors
Try again

>>51425352
kozilek

>>51425352
sisters of stone death or glissa

>>51425357
>>51425370
Actually, I was so blind-sided by how wrong you were, I didn't even notice that the choice you made wasn't even black

>>51425377
>Kozilek
>Any color

>>51425385
It's one of those two! Care to flip a coin?

>>51425403
my initial inclination is to say glissa because she's just better but I have a hunch it's sisters

so sisters

>>51425419
Should have went with your gut anon, I don't play trash. It's Glissa!

Anyone here have a lovecraft deck? Preferably with horrible ways to kill humans and fuck with players and a big bad eldrazi in charge.

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>>51425352
Blue, three colors. Should be easy.

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>>51425740

and why would you want an eldrazi for that

>>51425757
Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge

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>>51425850
Ayup, said it was easy.

>>51425249
He couldn't bear the stream of salt, it seems :^)

>>51425818
Wow I have never seen this.

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>>51425352
Primary colour blue, two colours

>>51425970
Hanna

>>51425970
I never understood why Hannah decks run this, it seems unbearably slow.

>>51425946

take a look https://scryfall.com/search?order=rarity&q=t%3Ahorror%20-t%3Ashapeshifter

>>51425970
>>51425970
Vorel of the Hull Clade?

>>51426006
There's a lot of small creatures you could borrow with it, since it's power-based and not CMC-based. And it's a good political early drop.

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>>51408049
Repostan

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All my decks al include white and I can only think of building decks which are white-heavy. Does anyone have recommandation for sometime nonwhite?

>>51426538
Yidris

>>51426405

I don't much care for Cloudthresher and Sever the Bloodline

>>51426405
In my opinion you can safely cut:
Catacomb Sifter
Custodi Lich
Cloudthresher
Emrakul's Evangel
It That Betrays
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
Matter Reshaper
Phyrexian Plaguelord
Thief of Blood
Verdant Force

Also try to limit Sorceries and Enchantments to a minimum, remember that with Meren yo're trying to abuse creatures with ETB triggers more than anything else
Those cards aren't much impactful and/or cost too much too cast

And here's some cards you can add instead:
Abhorrent Overlord
Bane of Progress
Fleshbag Marauder/Merciless Executioner
Grave Titan
Gray Merchant of Asphodel
Grim Haruspex
Harvester of Souls
Kokusho, the Evening Star
Lord of Extinction
Massacre Wurm
Puppeteer Clique
Rune-Scarred Demon/Sidisi, Undead Vizier
Savra, Queen of the Golgari
Sepulchral Primordial
Spore Frog
Aid from the Cowl
Grave Pact/Dictate of Erebos
Black Market
Strionic Resonator

Most bro artist is Jesper Myrfors. Goes to a shit ton of GPs and cons, always excited to sign shit, always loves talking to fans. rk post is cool as hell too.

Worst artist is Peter Mohrbacher. Story comes courtesy of a friend.

>Friend goes out to GenCon last year
>Brings a bunch of our playgroups' shit to get signed by artists there
>Goes to Mohrbacher's booth to get some signatures
>Mohrbacher is instantly just annoyed that people are coming to him for MtG related reasons instead of his other art
>Charges a couple bucks per signature
>Signature is utter shit and looks like a kindergartner's name
>Acts like a general asshole all around to my friend

Personally, I met Eric Deschamps, Noah Bradley, and Terese Nielsen when I went to GP DC last year. Really hate Deschamps signature but I don't think he was being a dick, he just has a very distinct signature.

Alright, turns out Hope of Ghiraptur is pretty decent, also first for BFTO superfriends
>T1 Mountain Hope
>T2 S1, Wasteland the dual he fetched for
>T3 S1, Ancient Tomb. Sac Hope to protect myself and then cast Metalworker
>T4 Gamble, get Crucible. Metalworker out a Defence Grid then Crucible
"An opponent has left your game"

>>51426348
It needs at least 2 counters to get anything worthwhile, even for utility dudes. Also you talked about dropping it early, but if that was the case all sorts of decks would run it if it was worthwhile, but it's not, and Hannah is focused on recurring it, and somehow that's... Good for them? I just don't see it. It seems worse in every way compared to Treachery, and even control magic.

Can an actual Hannah player defend this card? I'm not trying to spike out but I fail to see how its even better than a budget option like control magic, let alone the better versions of it.

>>51426760
>Also you talked about dropping it early, but if that was the case all sorts of decks would run it if it was worthwhile
Not all sorts of decks can recur it like Hanna. Also playing Allure doesn't exclude playing Treachery and Control Magic, most lists with Allure probably play both too.

>>51426760
Not a Hanna player, but Control Magic effects can negated if you can remove the enchantment, Legacy's Allure doesn't leave anything like that lying around, no strings attached.

Anyone wanna rate my Slobad list? I'm pretty happy with it, only thing I'm missing is a Workshop, and I don't expect to be getting one of those anytime soon.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/slobad-stax-3/

>>51426837
But if they remove the enchantment you can just get it back with Hanna. That's kinda the point of her.

If you drop Legacy's Allure early than it can be alright, but late in the game it's really damn close to a dead draw. When everyone's playing big creatures you're not going to wait 4+ turns to take something, you'd rather draw one of your many Control Magic effects.

Also I've tried Hanna and she seems way too slow and very mana intensive for a deck that can't produce a lot of mana. You're stuck relying on artifacts for the most part and you're still spending so much time setting up mana that you really don't even start the game until much later.

>>51426799
It's recurring it that I find so bad. Let's say they do get it off turn 2 (I don't want to talk about how bad it is as a top deck turn 7 or something, that's just sad) and you wait around 2 turns past that and somebody runs an Oracle of mul duya out and you get to steal that. ( Once again, this is like the best possible scenario for the card). So you go ahead and recur it, because that's the only reason you run the stupid thing in the first place. Turn 5 you lay it down again and... What, you get your five manas worth at like turn 9, if that?

I get what your saying about it being an extra version of control magic, but maybe you don't realize how many of them there are. Check gatherer or something man, there are versions that give infect, take any permanent type, etc.

If I were to rate control magic effects it wouldn't be number 1 or 2 or number 3 even, it's wayyy down in the double digits, and I just don't get why it's mentioned like some spicy tech.

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Feel like building a new deck from my unused legendaries but I dont know who to do. I'll let you guys decide. Money won't be an issue with any

>Atarka, World Render
>Tajic, Blade of the Legion
>Varolz the Scar Striped
>Brimaz, King of Oreskos
>Athreos, God of Passage
>Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch
>Oona, Queen of the Fae
>Anafenza the Foremost
>Shu Yun

I want to make a token deck because I have never done it before, what a good commander to build around. I was thinking Rhys until I saw that price tag.

>>51427058
Athreos, God of Passage is like a less cancerous Meren. Shu Yun is a fun alternative voltron esque commander. Personally I would pick between those two.

>the atraxa precon fell back to 60 dollars

glad i sold all mine when they were 90, easiest 200 bucks ive ever made

>>51427059
Krenko and Ezuri elves are both cheap and easy.

>>51427096
Mai nigga
Was going to say the same thing

>>51427130

They were never gonna hold at 90, the fact they reached that point at all is fucking astounding.

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>>51427096
Is Secret Salvage+Shadowborn Apostle the real secret tech of Athreos? This combo with a bunch of big as fuck demons in the deck sound like a fucking blast!

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why the fuck is this card 20 dollars?

>>51423369
Dude, he survived erebos hitting him with the spear of heliod (but his friends didn't)

>>51427258
It's not. The most extensive printing is like $14. You can get it for like $5.

>>51427258
because foil?

>>51427330
weird, maybe i was accidentally looked at the foils or something

>>51427330
Cheapest printing is like $10 on SCG.

It gets played in Bant Eldrazi IIRC, also it's a land that hasn't been reprinted in a while. Those tend to start creeping up until they get a reprint.

>>51427354
I was counting the less than favourable conditions, but in lightly used to near mint $10 is about right.

>>51427354
>buying from kike city games

i hope you dont do this anon

>>51427379
DESU you're only paying a couple cents less when you go to a competitor and they have better selection, pretty fast shipping (I live in NJ and they usually get my stuff there in 2-3 days), and good customer service.

I used to do TCGPlayer but their selection is wonky at times and their "cart optimization" is a scam.

I mostly try to buy stuff from my LGS (all their singles are 25% off SCG price so they're the cheapest place around) but otherwise I do use SCG mostly. You're a true kike if you're obsessed with saving a few shekels using TCGPlayer.

>>51427290
Wtf was Erebos doing with the Spear of Heliod?

>>51427059
Oviya

>>51422917
Why is Gideon oppressing Chandra?

>>51427622
Gideon was gifted the spear from Heliod to defend the city. In an act of hubris, he saw Erebos (who was sending harpies to attack the city) in the distance. He threw the spear at Erebos, Erebos deflected it back at him, and then the spear killed all his friends while he survived.

>>51427622
I think he's talking about when Gideon was tasked to kill a titan created by Erebos. After it was killed, Erebos appeared himself and Gideon threw the spear, which Erebos deflected. Gideon was able to protect himself with his magic while all his allies died

>>51427622
If you haven't noticed, the gods really can't keep track of their legendary artifacts.

Kiora has the bident of thassa, erebos had the spear of heliod.

It's almost like they don't give a shit, it's like "well I'll live forever, it'll turn up eventually"

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>>51427648
>He threw the spear at Erebos, Erebos deflected it back at him
>mfw

>>51427661
The whole thing with Thassa's bident is also hilarious, how come she let Kiora steal from under her nose like that. Just shows how the ones who should be running that shit are my niggas Keranos and Kruphix.

>>51427688
Gideon tried to kill the god of death

Not the brightest walker is he?

>>51427753
Gideon did blindly follow an order of knights prior to meeting chandra, which ended up changing his view.

>>51425985
>>51426006
Correct. It's definitely a bad card because it's slow, but it's easy to recur and if you steal someone's commander with it, it's surprising how hard is it to get it back, since it's not aura.

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What's everyone's favourite recurring non-white life gain and card draw?

>>51427753
All dumbies, just like on my greek myths!

Can I get some critiques on my Thalia Stax deck? It's the first stax deck I've tried brewing and while I think I have enough stax pieces, I'm not too sure about win conditions aside from weenie beats, Iona making people scoop, and a big miracle'd Entreat the Angels.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/26-01-17-thalia-stax/

>>51427846
Blinkmoth Well and Phyrexia's Core alleviate some of your stax artifacts. The Well can make Static/Winter Orb pretty one sided and Phyrexia's Core is an "oh shit" button if you find yourself buried under the stax.

Null Rod adds a redundant copy of Stony Silence while Damping Matrix combines Null Rod and Cursed Totem.

Death to the Gatewatch.

I posted in the last thread that I'd like to make a Breya Tokens deck, and I whipped up something since then.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tiny-little-trinkets/

It's a prototype, and I'm not sure if I should pack more removal or not. Thoughts?

>>51425249
>make bear puns while he scoops

legendary

>>51427530
it has nothing to do with them charging slightly more, its about kike city games actively participating in buy outs and hoarding to drive up the price of cards. they actively make this game more expensive so they can make a few extra bucks

>>51427530
Shill harder

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>DICK of erebos + grave pact
>tables face when

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>>51428278
>+ Butcher of Malakir
>tables face when

>>51427837
that one, i have it in my kozileck deck

>>51425853

Glad I'm not the only one who has to deal with the fucking adds on mobile.

>>51428462
At least you get tits, i get disgusting pics of horrific diseases

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Post your favorite combos

pic related, it's not exactly super tough to disrupt, but I love it anyway.

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>>51428516
>Buried Alive for It That Betrays, Keldon Firebombers and Patron of the Nezumi
>Living Death
>mfw

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>>51428278
>>51428400
Grave pact + dic of erebos + butcher of malakir + abyssal gatekeeper

>>51428818
Why Abyssal Gatekeeper? That shit is garbage unless you have disposable shit or it's the only creature you have. Just play Meatball Marauder for fuck's sake. Even the art is better.
Or just use the new one from Fate Reforged.

>>51428683

Used to be I'd just grab Triskellion, Mikaeus and a sac outlet until I cut Triskellion from my deck due to people complaining about the combo

Now I just do Woodfall Primus, Mikaeus and a sac outlet, blow up everyone's lands and win just as hard, but for some reason no one seems to mind it because I need to do a few turns of beating them down while they sit on zero lands after I put the combo together.

>>51428932
Well, to be fair, you wouldn't even need a sac outlet with Trike, unlike with leafyhead.

>>51428885
You use the fleshbag/merciless for it as well. I just didn't think it needed to be posted but I guess I should've for your dumb ass

>>51429015
Only issue I have with it that it's a death trigger, so you'll need something to whack it.
Besides, imagine
>Dictate, Pact, Butcher, Panharmonicon, Mikaeus on the field
>play Meatball
>?????
>profit

>>51427058
Exava or Tajic. Fuck U/G

>>51429110
I don't use it in mikeaus I use it in mazirek.

>>51427379
Last time I checked, they had the lowest online price for a Judge Imperial Recruiter. Beat out TCGplayer, ABU, and local shops

>>51428516
How is that a combo? I mean, yes, you get to summon any three cards from your deck, but for 8 mana, you could probably hard cast them.

Personally, animate dead and victimize are pretty spicy, particularly since you can play them on curve.

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I've... become a Johnny.

I always thought I was a Timmy. I ran stompy gruul decks, I liked to hit people really hard with fancy things, and I always ran midrangey aggro type cards. Lately, every deck I've built is centered around elaborate combos/interactions. I don't know when it happened, but I shifted from a Craw Wurm meta, to a weenies meta, and I'm just not the same magic player I once was. Now my decks durdle until t4-t5 then combo off, or play some elaborate janky shenanigans until I maybe win.

How do I reconcile things? What kind of things do Johnny's build? What do I even think is fun anymore? Help me anons, you're my only hope.

>>51423109

>"Well, what is it?"

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>>51429383
Follow your heart, anon. Only you know what's fun to you, and only you can play to that strength. Why do you need to reconcile things? Why try to be what you aren't? Just do what you want to do.

>>51429383
>Felicia Day reenacting Spiderman kiss
gross

>>51427379
I only buy there during sales when I can get things substantially cheaper than my LGS or TCGplayer. Particularly foreign cards, which they seem to substantially undervalue.

>>51424344
(you)

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>>51429489
But what am I? What do I want to do? I think I have to do some serious soul searching. One day I will return a different man, or maybe I'll become something that no one has ever seen before.

>>51429520
I had to google who that was, but you're a funny guy anon.

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>tfw you realize a card you've had since your first deck shot in price

Should I sell or wait lads

>>51429383
I had the same struggle recently, and I decided to just embrace it. I went from playing Zurgo and Goblin tribal to Experiment Kraj and Endrek Sahr. And the thing is, I win more and I'm having more fun. I think what finally turned me was having my Zurgo countered enough times in a single game that I literally couldn't cast him with every land and mana rock in the deck. I realized that they weren't going to let me hit them, that me and the rest of the group were playing a very different game and I needed to adapt.

>>51429821
>I think what finally turned me was having my Zurgo countered enough times in a single game that I literally couldn't cast him with every land and mana rock in the deck
Holy crap now that's what I call a hateboner for a commander eh

>>51429383
Welcome to the jank side of the force. Enjoy your stay and win through the most ridiculous and convoluted ways. As the flavor of Chance Encounter says, "The more unlikely the victory, the more memorable the success."

>>51428493
Then you shouldn't be frequenting websites with disgusting pics of horrific diseases, son.

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Played a friends Pharika deck, had fun with it.

>>51429880
Yeah it was bad. I should have known better than to try to play him though, only non-blue player in a 5 man game.

>>51429816

Pretty sure it's being played in some legacy deck as early oppression. I'd say sell it while the legacy players are still throwing money at it and buy a bunch of new upgrades for your decks

>>51429816
I'd keep it. It's being used in Legacy Reanimator decks, and you're really going to miss it when it's gone, particularly since it's a card from your first deck.

Memories are worth more than money, unless it's a lot of money, so keep that in mind.

>>51429199
You can use Mike in Mazirek tho.

>>51427058
you can make a dragon tribal with atarka
it works pretty well, ramp up, dragon hatchling, utvara hellkite, crucible of fire, etc

>a friend recommends the commanders brew pod cast
>its hosted by 2 gay leafs

wew

>>51430936

your friend wants the dick.

>>51430936
The Command Zone is okay if you can sift through the garbage. A lot of useless topics gets covered when they should just do more deck techs and just better segments. Like why do an episode on Kaladesh mechanics without saying that all of them are pretty bad for EDH?

They make really good gameplay videos though on their Game Knights segment but those are few and far between (understandably, they take a long time to film and edit).

Commanderin' has seemed okay but they have like really shit production values it feels like.

>>51430762
I can but he's reverse compared to mazirek in most aspects

>>51431016
ya commanderin would be awesome if they put a little effort into it. at least show the cards your talking about on the youtube videos

>>51423109
"What's the deal with Eldritch Moon? It's not eldritch, and it's not a moon!"

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>>51426623
>>51426603
>Aid from the Cowl
>Passed it away on the draft yesterday
I'll take out Cloudthresher and Sever to put in Pawn and Satyr Wayfinder while I'll look for the other reccomended things. Gary in particular seems really fun
>Grave Pact/Dictate of Erebos
I'm limiting The Grave Pact/Fleshbag effects I have due to them being a bit too strong for my metas

>>51427753
the animation they released showing gideon's ignition is fucking hilarious. he takes the spear head on and he's like "yeah fucc you erebos you lil bi- aawwwww shit everyone died"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWNgyGwMk7U

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I need a commander for an equipment based deck that doesnt run out of gas out early. Suggestions?

>>51432696
Sram
Let your gas draw you more

>>51432741
Is that style of deck fine being monocolour? Does not having sunforger hurt it?

>>51432806
I'd imagine it'd be the funnest mono-white commander.
>Does not having sunforger hurt it?
Of course, but that's the price you pay when you'll play a monocoloured commander, miss some spicier stuff for more consistency and devotion.

>>51432696
odric or sram

>>51427379

Im so grateful for MKM...

>>51427379
am i the only one who uses troll and toad? unless there is a better option for card purchasing

>>51432741
>>51432866
>>51432876
So what are some good threats to slap the equipment onto? Ideally cheaply costed or with some sort of evasion, im guessing?

>>51433016
>Buy at around half the price of tcgplayer (including shipping)
>Get refunds and partial refunds for incredible slight mistakes that I hardly even care about
>A good part of my expenses are covered by the referral bonus I get from my tcgplayer decks

Being Ameripoor must be suffering.

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>>51433081
With Sword of Vengance for example

>>51433081
well with odric focus on token generation and anthem effects along with your equipment. id also run oldric too if going that route. not really sure with sram, honestly i think he is better in the 99

>play-testing grixis artifacts
>get cranial plating on a prototype portal
>make 4 of them before asshole animar hits it with a reclamation sage
>cast kraum, slap all 4 platings on him and hit that sumbitch for 44 commander damage
>"I forgot you had kraum too..."

L E L

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>>51433081
Can't go wrong with Armory Automaton and Kemba too

>>51433081
>>51433177
sorry just reread what you said, what that other anon said, just put a bunch of sword ofs and random other key word shit with odric. id try and get indestructible running as fast as possible be it from equipment or enchantment or whatever

>>51432696
the only correct answer is skullclamp and things your can use to fetch/repetitively equip it to

>>51433131
or Power Matrix

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>>51433081
Add pic related and any double strike enabler and people will start pissing their pants when they see you turn your commander sideways.

>>51433377
does loss of life count as commander damage?

>>51433460
no

>>51433460
Commander damage is solely combat damage. Mogis for example doesn't do commander damage with his triggers

>>51433460
No, like the other anons said, it does not. But I was just trying to say putting quietus spike or it's weaker alternative with living weapon, scytheclaw is going to mean doom for any player you connect to.

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I need your advice on what commander to pick. I wanna make a really /m/ deck. I thought about using pic related as a commander because He looks like a Char but if I use him I don't have access to blue and can't use mechanized production and mass produce big zam Should I just use him anyway and ignore any blue /m/ cards or is there a jeskai commander that fits the /m/ aesthetic well?

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>>51433797
there aren't any particularly on flavor jeskai commanders for /m/.dec. Jor Kadeen is a pretty solid choice i feel. dont forget your vehicles, pilots, and of course this gem.

If breya has infect does she start pinging for infect damage? Also does chandras ignition on blightsteel colossus kill the table?

>>51434210
>If breya has infect does she start pinging for infect damage?
yes

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how do you beat this

>>51434316
Instant speed MLD.

>>51434316
cast piracy and tap their lands before it etbs

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Why the fuck is this card being slept on? I feel like I'm the only one who thinks this card is amazing and ridiculously undercosted.

Does anyone run the Mirror Entity/Azami or Mirror Entite/Joraga Treespeaker interaction? They sound like a cool way to get big mana or insane card draw.

I'd put this in a Derevi deck btw

can i use devoid spells with a colorless commander?

>>51434768
For some dumb reason, no you can't. The mana symbols are the only thing that matters in commander

>>51434768
No, the card being "colorless" due to devoid does not affect the card's colour identity

Updated my Toshiro List today with Massacre Wurm, Demonic Tutor, and Noxious Gearhulk. I think the one tutor I'm missing is Vampiric, since I'm not going to spring for Grim Tutor or Imperial Seal. Do you see any weak cards I can cut, or just good cards in general to add?

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>>51434967
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/toshiro-valuetown/
I forget the link every fucking time.

>>51434787
>>51434789
thats retarded

>>51434986
Color identity isn't color. Lands are colorless, but have a color identity. It's not that difficult to understand, and it keeps the rules uniform.

>>51423231
>>51423293
>>51423311
>>51423323
so did they fuck after or what?

im talkin about lilly and tezz of course

>>51435065
This, if they changed the rules for devoid cards then they would be able to go in any deck, not just ones helmed by an eldrazi. Do you really want mono blue to have another way to combo out by giving it displacer?

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>>51428516
>turn 1 dark ritual + immolating soul eater
>turn 2 sack 18 hp swing for 10 + fling for 10 GG

>>51435198
>tfw you realize you can do that in edh too

now i want to build a shitty budget malfegor again...

>>51434210
Be mindful of the wording. If the spell says "target creature deals damage", with infect it's infect damage (like with Chandra's Ignition) or "x spell deals damage" such as with combat trick cards like Deflecting Palm, the source is Deflecting Palm.
Be mindful of what actually does the damage and also keep in mind that damage and life loss is different.

>>51434593
Because it's only "good" in commander. It's not amazing. You get enchantments that give your shit hexproof permanently, and in green you can ramp up to them very quickly. The indestructibility is a bit better, but even so, it's just not incredible.

>>51435175
i guess thats true

>>51434979
Actually, specific question. Do you think that Liliana, The Last Hope would be good for this deck? She's 3 mana, can plunk down small creatures, and recur whatever creatures get blown up. I'd never intend to ult her, but she seems solid.

>>51435582
I think you are underestimating it, or you always play UGx. Green being able to protect its board from everything at instant speed is pretty big. Most creature based decks I know of do everything they can to protect against wraths, they run dauntless escort, selfless spirit, Boros charm, etc.

This is better than every other version of saving your board made so far.

>>51435874
It doesn't protect from everything, and we both know that. The card is good, but it's not going to be a staple in EDH.
You can ramp very easily in edh, and ramp into cards that have a bigger impact and also protect your board. Decks will run the card, but it's not going to be a card people sing praises about.

Is there any sort of chatroom where you can actually sit down and talk about EDH? /edhg/ is a bit 2slow for me

>>51436000
There's been a one or a few discord channels that have been posted here before: I joined one myself even though i like never even made one comment there kek. I can post the invite code if you want.

>>51435989
It doesn't protect against merciless eviction, hallowed burial, and half of rift. But it is better than the 3 other staples I already mentioned that don't grant hexproof.

If a card is better than the current staples, it's going to be a staple.

If you don't run the other cards I mentioned, you probably aren't playing creature based decks in those colors.

>>51435582
It's essentially a green counter. I don't get what's not very good about it. It's also great anti MLD which has been a weakness of green.

>>51436000
why dont you start posting more to stir up a conversation?

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>Just finished building Mizzix
>Already thinking about taking her apart for Arjun because card draw and wheels seems more interesting than BIG SPELLS
Is it worth it? Has anyone played Arjun effectively? What's the strategy with him like?

>>51426837
Bumping for review, I just realized Petrified Field is a card, so I guess I'll add that to the shopping list.

>>51430808
>running dragon hatchling
Are you serious?

>>51436321
arjun is cool but it seems way more useful in the 99 of something else like melek or yidris

>>51429281
Bring out your combo without having to have all 2-3 pieces, don't even have to play them in the same turn, turn 2/3 the first one and 3/4/5 the second one, gg

>>51436543
you need low mana cards, its a dragon, and you can pump a bunch of mana into it later when topdecking
obviously only for dragon tribal though

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How good is the Commander 2014 mono-white deck? Anyone have any experience with it? How about after upgrades?
It looks fun to me, but i have heard so many horror stories about how bad mono-white is i would like to hear some anecdotes and opinions first

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>>51434316
toxic deluge for 39

>>51436610
Monowhite isn't that good. SRAM makes it better.

If you want mono-colored, I would go black.

For those who run sliver tribal, is it worth it? I love the synergy and how they all work together but at the same time in a multiplayer format it seems like you would always be targeted first and would have a hard time surviving with even three other players. This wouldnt really be an issue but the cost of the mana base and support cards make me a little wary of buying into it. I dont want to put the money into it just to have my shit pushed in every game and not be able to play it for all the hate.

>>51437064
Most people take 5C tribal a bit less seriously. If you're really worried, ask if your friends are cool with you just proxying the deck for a few games, seeing how it performs. If it works well, start buying the pieces, if it doesn't, you saved a lot of money.

I know TCC has a video on 5C manabases you can check out. I run Karona, False God and I only run the 5 KTK fetches and a set of shocks. I make do the rest of the way. It's expensive, but I know I can switch out the cards for other decks if I need to, and shocks and fetches will always be useful even if you pull the deck apart for parts.

>>51437138
And by make do the rest of the way, I mean I don't run the ZEN fetches. I still run the checklands and Shadowlands, and other ways to make sure i hit my colors.

>>51434316
Change all their forests to superior islands

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>tfw your deck reaches 2k views on tappedout

Its not even my strongest deck anymore

>>51436610
You really really have to learn how to build a deck properly if you want to master monowhite. Without access to a large amount of card draw and mana ramp in color, you will have to rely on artifacts, creature abilities, and a very limited amount of tools to bring yourself to victory.

White has all the answers. It just can't get them quick enough.

So is anyone else here constantly brewing decks but never actually building them?

I'm not made of money, man.

is odric worth putting in an alesha deck? ive been considering upgrading a few of my budget decks i built a while back

>>51437449
ya, i have a really bad habit of building a deck all the way to about 80 cards and then saying fuck it and start another

>>51437536
which one?

the answer is still yes

>>51437536
Which Odric? I assume Master Tactician since he can let your MoC through ez pz, but so can a lot of other abilities and spells.

>>51437371
How do I get some decent feedback on tappedout?
I have decks with a little over a 1k views but like 3-3 comments at most.

>>51437568
>>51437580
i was thinking lunarch marshall but now that I'm looking at master tactician i think that it might be the better choice. would it be a bad idea to run both?

>>51437617
*2-3 comments

>>51437637
make your description clear and concise about what you are looking for in regards to feedback

dont expect much feedback if your deck is something one-note and run of the mill like Nekusar

>>51437629
It depends on what you're trying to do, really. I go all in on the 2 power or less weenie train, so I only run a few utility creatures that are anything higher. If you're more of an ETB, token, or general beatdown deck, they're both pretty good.

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>Still have one of the only decks on edhrec with this guy

Feels good. He's lots of fun.

>Making Rashmi, Eternities Crafters
>Sorting all my U/G Good Stuff that can go in
>Finally finish
>Only 100 card to cut

I'm actually kinda excited about it.

>>51437692
yeah i like the idea of taking the weenie deck route because i like not getting hated off the board immediately but i think a combination of weenie and ETB would be pretty fun

>>51436321
I think he's pretty fun and "unique."

Check the article on EDHREC

Psychosis Crawler is your best friend

>>51437754
Kind of want to build her as a big green/blue beatdown but i havnt put a list together yet.

>>51437748
>Mono green draw

go on...

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>>51437797

Here's your win-con.

>>51437845
>Conspiring this as wort
lotsa funtimes.

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Any spicy tech I can use with this for Sakashima?

>>51437537
I do the same. Either that or I go a little crazy adding every card that looks good to a list then when I see the deck hash 150+ cards in it, and I realize how much I'd have to cut out, I just say "fuck it" and give up.

>>51438025
Shit that makes tokens. Try Myr battlesphere.

>>51437845
Auroraing when you have a ton of tokens is like sex. You get a shit ton of extra draws, you're gonna hit your lands for sure. Then you have tons of options left over to cast. Can easily win you the game if you do it right.

>>51438142

I have no tokens in Masumaro. I just have a gigantic fuckin' hand.

>Hit someone with giant Masumaro
>Hunter's Insight
>Draw shit ton of cards
>Aurora
>Replay Masumaro and commence murder

>>51436610
As someone who started out with that deck and still uses it and upgrades it, it's pricey depending on where you want to take it. Mono white can sort of keep up in the mana race with other fast decks but card draw is where it loses gas. Luckily the deck comes with skull clamp and turns nahiri into a card draw machine once clamp hits the field. It can be fun but you kind of need Swords, at least feast and famine and a batterskull. Stoneforge does work. I feel Nahiri is one of the more slept on mono white commanders. She's capable of a strong board wipe strategy and putting dudes on the field to recover from a wipe to keep form of pressure. Also that new mana rock turns your Swords into rocks which is cool

Just be ready to drop some dosh.

Hello /edhg/

I have a problem. The memery about UGx has turned me into a dedicated Mardu player. I currently have Marduchesa but am tempted to build Alesha HateBears and Zurgo voltron. My problem is I traded most everything I had card wise for the Mardu Staples. I love Queen Cheesey but it ain't easy. How do I build the other decks with out tearing Chesa apart?

Should I give up on having three Commanders in the same triple color Identity on a budget? Is it even smart to have 3 mardu decks? Help me /edhg/! You're my only hope?

>>51439160
If you want to keep your Chesa deck, be prepared to shell out for all new staples.

OK paradox engine is fucking insane

>>51439265
>paradox engine is only useable in my breya deck that doesn't need it

I fucking hate it, waste of a mythic at prerelease

>>51439265
it accidently made my dralnu deck a storm deck

>>51439026
thanks for the feedback. that was the feeling i was getting from it. im planning on selling off all of my jank, and want a good deck to put that dosh into.

>>51439389
dramatic reversal on isochron scepter seems easier to break desu

>>51439521
It is but I don't need that trick either

>session in 4 hours
>cards didn't arrive for new deck
>only needed like 15 cards for it

asdf

should i proxy those cards or just play my other decks?

>>51439689
pack em up anon

>>51436321

Arjun doesn't have much stretch in terms of design space; I've played against a few at my LGS and at friend's place and they are all basically the same gameplan; but the way (s?)he plays is so much fun and there's several ways to do it I built one myself.

Basically, you want to have some sizeable ramp (To cast your commander and for low cost spam), some mid-game disruption to make sure the sphinx sticks, and wincons based off of handcycling. Shit like Al's Archive/Thought Reflection/Geth's Grimoire + Wheels with a Lab Maniac on the field,or a chasm skulker, or my personal favorite diviner's wind attached to just about anything. You can also put in a mill sub-theme if you can space for Jace's erasure and tutelage. As the game draws on, decking everyone but yourself with a well-timed windfall is also not unheard of.

Arjun plays like a much less powerful, but way funner Niv Mizzet. You're basically playing pic related every time you cast a spell, and get to play some interesting cards to stop yourself from decking yourself when you have a draw doubler out. Obstinate familiar? Check. Sundial of the Infinite? Check. I've only ever had to play a wheel to reduce my handsize ever once, and it was in this deck. Other neat tech is the flash enabling artifact so if you get some goodstuff in that's not necessary instants you can chuck them out before losing your hand, and a graveyard recycler like a titan in case you pimp out the deck with shit like dream halls or good wheels.

All in all, it's a fun deck with a very interesting play-style and arguably the two most interactive colors in the format. I never feel like I'm just solitaring my wincon in this deck because there's several ways to win and each has varying levels of interaction with opponents which is nice. Do not expect to be hyper competitive however (Unless you shill out for a bulk of format staples), but in multi you would be surprised how often Arjun gets underestimated if there's shit like Ghave out

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>>51441477
>>51441477
>>51441477

Forgot pic

>>51436587
How would it be useful in Yidris?

>>51441477
I also built arjun, and this anon is exactly right. Theres absolutely nothing like it. If you know how powerful drawing cards is, then you will enjoy the constant wheels of arjun, mindmoil, and teferi's puzzlebox plus draw doublers.

>>51441585

Jesus how could I forgot mind-moil and the box? They're solid includes, especially puzzle box due to the way it completely messes with everyone but you, as you expect to handcycle anyways.

>want to make an Oloro control/lifegain deck because I have a lot of spare cards in those colors
>don't want to be that guy
Send help

>>51442174
build it with queen marchesa instead.

>>51442190
Looks pretty neat. I would if I had anything in red that was at all worth playing.

>>51442174
Surprise your playgroup by building Oloro stax instead.

>>51439689
>build two new decks from scratch
>order cards
>one week later think of another deck
>order cards
>ordered the cards from Greece, Portugal, the Netherlands, France, Germany and ITALY
>another week later ALL cards have arrived except the ones from ITALY
>I haven't received a single card from Italy yet, but each and everyone from all the other countries
>I have three unfinished decks because I'm still waiting for three shipments of cards with like 12 cards from Italy

Aasdzfwtefetwtcefca

>>51442247
Hohoho. I definitely have some of the cards for that. I might have to do that for laughs

Fuck me, I should stop making custom commanders.

>>51442307
Never order from Italy on MKM I stoppped falling for that trap a long time ago, Italian post service is cancer.

i just ordered 5 spore frogs

I've already got Azusa as a mono green deck, but I wanna make another cuz I'm running low on non basics.

What's a fun mono green general that doesn't cost a lot to make. Was gonna make Titania but I don't have a crucible so meh.

>>51442365
As in, pimping your commander cards with custom art? Or the kind where you pretend to be a Magic designer?

>>51442504
pretend I'm a magic designer.

I did my large set, and now I'm making a custom commander product because why the fuck not.

>>51442500
Titania is really fun but you need A LOT of nonbasics. My deck runs 12 Forests out of 42 lands and most of the deck ain't cheap. Tappedout's calculations has mine at around $900 on TCGPlayer (albeit with some sporadic expensive foils).

Generally elfball decks are pretty cheap, you have Ezuri, Freyalise, Rishkar, Yeva, etc. Landbase is cheap, really the only super necessary nonbasics are Nykthos and Wirewood Lodge. Elves are cheap, and if you can't afford Craterhoof there's plenty of cheap finishers or you can go with some sort of combo elves deck.

If you are interested in Titania though, here's my stax list: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/titania-greenback-stax/

>>51442560
I like freyalise as she shit all over my sydri jank deck but is she really good for elfball?

>>51442624
I played her and she's good if you want an elf deck that can survive through the long game. The plan is to play her real early and then ult her in a couple of turns to refuel. She's very hard to deal with if you can land her on turn 3 or so, and the fact she makes blockers helps defend her.

>>51442644
I'll probably bight the bullet and buy her precon.

>>51442708
You can upgrade the deck pretty decently for like $30. Just cut all the Titania stuff out, Titania is only really good when she's heavily built around and having a couple of lands that sac themselves is not nearly enough.

>>51442763
Does she work well with general elfball ezuri stuff or does she want things in particular, i know i want token multipliers and things that want things entering the battlefield but what would be some nice tech for her?

>>51442796
You'll run her pretty much the same, if anything maybe Doubling Season to double her counters and the tokens she makes.

But she's pretty generic for elfball, you could probably swap any of like the 5 elfball generals in her spot and the deck would remain pretty much the same.

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>>51422917
>Do you have a favorite MTG artist or era of design?
My favorite artist and era are actually pretty far apart. Nils Hamm is my favorite artist, because he tends to go into color spectrums most artists don't dare and he's amazing at doing grimy/otherworldy/primal feeling stuff.
My favorite era is the Rath cycle, because of its muted tone and painterly feel and its art direction didn't yet entirely shy away from some more abstract illustrations.

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>>51422917
My favorite block artwise is Mirage. I was just a child playing the game with my brothers and I remember every single picture of every single of the terrible cards we used, because they posessed such a dream-like quality and were so abstract and expressive. It was like a complete new world. It was like nothing I have ever seen before. I was instantly fascinated with the game.

>>51434986
Just play full colorless and stop being a pussy.

>>51442560
You probably could play a decent amount of basics, it just depends on exactly how you want to play her. Also no greater good or concordant crossroads?

>>51434316
path

>>51444145
Since wotc decided to make a large amount of the eldrazi devoid colored creatures, you can't do a proper eldrazi tribal with a titan at the head. Sucks

What's some good secret tech for athreos shadowborn apostles?

>>51446402
carnival of souls

>>51445075
Yes you can.

I'm stuck with two assholes who play Oloro and Nekusar all the time. What's a good way to end their bullshit and make games as 'fun' for them as it's been for me?
I am willing to build a deck around whatever.

>>51446402
Remembrance? Though I doubt it's very secret.

>>51446652
tainted remedy, erebos for oloro
and obstinate baloth and notion thief and draw punishment for nekusar.

or counterspells.dec with baral

>>51446652
Or complete the C13 cancer trifecta with derevi Stax

>>51437064
I fucking love slivers and I play it all the time, but I am literally always the first target at the table when I play them. I find it kinda fun being public enemy #1 though.

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>>51423453
>I don't like a thing that's part of the game because I can't beat it

>>51438033
I do this almost every time I build a deck. The last tinge I built one I bought 130 cards, telling myself I'd narrow it down after they got to me. 3 months later and I still lug them all around with me, constantly switching them in and out.

>>51425853
Some of this is fine, some of it is super fucking irritating.

The biggest gripe, I think? Her being familiar with the concept of the judeochristian afterlife. I had the same problem when Han Solo said it.

>>51425740
I imagine my Phenax deck as very Lovecraftian. I'd like to get him altered to look like Nyarlathotep, Lazav to look like Hastur, and Wrexial to look (more) like Cthulhu. Winning by milling (driving people mad) is extra fun.

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How do you guys feel about Frontier Guide?

>>51447034
I'm sure several planes have a place called Hell. Theros has an underworld that you can physically travel to, Innastrad has an afterlife.

>>51446787
Eh, just running a bunch of counters isn't much fun for me, either. Thinking of some kind of BG deck using both the cards you mentioned, though I don't want to use Meren. How's Mimeoplasm?

>>51427904
Bolas plz go

>>51447214
Innistrad does not have one, I thought. Isn't their entire thing The Blessed Sleep? Where you just die and nothing happens. That's why Grafdiggers Cage exists, right?

>>51447214
Yeah, there's absolutely acceptable explanations for it. It just irks me.

It's the same feeling I get when an ancient manuscript written in bronze age gobbledygook rhymes when translated into English. Not a deal breaker, but it ruins muh immersion a bit.

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>>51445075
This isn't exactly a proper eldrazi themed deck, but you definitely can make one.

There's over two dozen more colorless eldrazi cards I'm not playing in this deck, and that's not including any cards you could fit in for flavor.

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>>51447188
Very few instances where I would have that instead of pic related or maybe Burnished Hart. The fact that it's an elf is an asset, but beyond that I'm not a fan.

>>51447408
Any chance you could post that Sol Ring alter?

>>51447570
Don't have my cards nearby right now, although I feel it's kinda cheating as it isn't a proper foil, but a foil print done over a nonfoil sol ring.
Got it as a gift from a friend.

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>>51437371
I remember when C15 came out, I brewed up a Mizzix list, forgot about it entirely, and was surprised to come back to thousands of views a couple months later. Never even built that deck.

Also
>tfw your favorite deck finally hits 100 upboats

Is there a cheaper two card instant win combo in mono black than Mikaeus + walking ballista? Also, besides the aforementioned two, what else would you want to search up with doomsday to make sure you don't get disrupted? Contamination or something?

>>51447851
>Mikaeus + walking ballista
not a 2 card combo

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>>51437371
The feeling stays around far longer than that.

>>51437617
Add a nice description that explains your card choices, some witty banter or reddit tier meme's.
They fucking love that shit.

It's also important to make the presentation good, add sections, different colored text. Basically, make it presentable.

Oh, and the single most deciding factor bar none, add a "please like my decklist" button, or ask them to like it.

>>51447851
You need to add a Blood Artist or Zulaport Cutthroat to that combo if you want to actually win.

>>51447859
It's surprising how many people forget that Mikaeus does more things than give all your stuff Undying.

>>51447859
>>51447904
Oops, meant to type triskelion. But is there a cheaper combo to fetch with dokmsday or what?

>>51447851
Mindcrank+Bloodchief Ascension.
You don't instant win, but it's a good combo. I thoroughly enjoy it.

>>51447953
Mike and Trike is about as dirty as it comes, really. If you need to defend against it, you could use something to give yourself hexproof I guess.

>>51447851
Mikaeus + Triskelion is the best mono B doomsday combo.

The piles I've seen are:

15 mana, but you can sac your lands to pay for it:

Infernal Contract, Rain of Filth, Mikaeus, Triskelion
This one also frees up a slot, if you want to protect yourself, Defense Grid is a great option.

10 mana:

Moonlight Contract, Victimize, Reassembling Skeleton, Mikaeus, Triskelion

2 mana, 3 cards in hand: (And +$500)
Bazaar of Bagdhad, Hellcarver Demon, Shallow Grave, Mikaeus, Triskelion

>>51447851
There's good ol sanguine bond + exquisite blood. You need a third piece, but it can be literally anything that gains you life or makes an opponent lose life.

>>51447992
Op, nevermind you were looking for doomsday piles. Bloodchief is way too slow. Nevermind!

Dear /edhg/, I've recently started playing magic. My friends convinced me to grab one of the precon decks a few months ago, I picked saskia and had a lot of fun with it. I decided to build a deck of my own. Thoughts? How can I make it better?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/a-tide-of-vermin-1/

>>51448173
Thanks! The second one looks very good, the deck I want it for runs plenty of one drops so the reassembling skeleton is unnecessary.

>>51448226
>28 lands and a Sol Ring for mana
How often do you find yourself lacking mana? Your curve seems pretty low, but that's a dangerously low amount of potential mana, even with Coffers.

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>>51448226
First thing, you need WAY more mana sources.

Like 8 more lands.

You're also missing the single best relentless rats card in the game. Pic related.

Your enchantments are also pretty lackluster, (Brutality, Visions, Gravestorm), replace it with some good removal spells, like Murder, Doom Blade, Go for the Throat, Tragic Slip.

There's also a new Adaptive Automaton that came out in Aether Revolt, Metallic Mimic, makes all rats ETB with a +1/+1 counter.

>>51448226
A few pieces of tech that come to mind off the top of my head are Konda's Banner, Patriarch's Bidding, Extraplanar Lens and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth.

>>51448226
>Problems I have run into: Bad luck with ramp

That's not bad luck, that's a severe lack of mana sources.

>>51448226
Patriarch's Bidding and Living Death let you say fuck you to boardwipes.

Foodbottom Feast and Gravepurge with Thrumming Stone is awesome and will allow you to put every single rat in your deck into play.

>>51448354
Often. Very often.
>>51448360
I learned about that recently, and I'm planning on buying it now
>>51448376
>>51448380
What would I replace to make room for that stuff?