Pathfinder General /pfg/ Food Edition: Why are there so fe

Profession: Cooking being able to cook some of the shit you kill to get THP. Like, X per CR.

>>51421278
It's silly, but Runescape's whole deal with "food heals you, potions are inefficient" is silly but fun. Let's replace the cure potion series with cheaper alternatives for martials:

Cure Light becomes a beef soup. Cure Moderate becomes a steak and potato plate. Cure Serious becomes a three course meal. Cure Critical is literally eating sharks. Heal would be represented by bacon. Etc., etc.

Also, Pizza could become multi-use buffs, i.e like wands, but with fewer charges and more potent effects.

>>51421278
I make all my Alchemists alcoholics for their mutagens/infusions.

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This thread is off to a great start!

Will Spheres of Might be pushing daily resources onto martials or no?

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>>51421278
>Start posting ideas below for magic/non-magic meals that give bonuses!

>Oats
>Bonus of +1 strength after vigorous squatting

>Protein Powder
>Bonus of +1 Strength
>Warning: DO NOT DO TWO SCOOPS

>>51421430
What is this image/post trying to represent?

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>>51421278
One of these days I need to make a disciple of the Ordre des Repas Exotiques.

Why the hell is their discipline Steel Serpent anyway? There has to be a better culinary PoW discipline than that. Primal Fury, even.

How do you play a low Charisma character?

>>51421462
autism and lots of unlikeable personality tics

>>51421462
Look at sociopaths if you're an Int-focused character who will take the proper traits in order to be an adequate party face. Otherwise, think of everything you're "required" to do, socially. Say please, say thank you, say excuse me, say sorry. Then strip all of that down. An uncharismatic character can be one of two things: so uninteresting he's not even worthy of looking at, or so detached from normal mannerisms and sensibilities that he alienates others with his odd movements, strange gestures, and weird ways of speaking. That's how I'd do low-charisma characters.

>>51421278

The mechanical benefit of food is not dying, arguably one of the worst status effects to have.

>>51421532
>he doesn't do the Ioun Stone + Ring combo so he doesn't need to eat OR sleep

what kind of adventurer are you?

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>>51421440
Nope, everything is either always on or activated by expending focus, which can be gotten back by burning a round or through other actions.

>>51421440
Some of the classes have some, but as a general rule no, especially in the spheres themselves.

>>51421565
I understand the Technician is still indev, but is there anything you can tell us about it aside from its general concept/theme?

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>>51421603
I wish there was, I still need to look over it later. Once I finish final checks on LK 2, I'll give it a look and drop some details.

>>51421462
Rude and with little care for grooming, with no grace or bearing.

>>51421661

So what you're saying is... He has no style, he has no grace?

So what are the essential feats to get firearms to be at least semi-functional?

Point Blank
Deadly Aim
Precise Shot
Rapid Reload

These four seem like the front runners.

However at level 7 with VMC I only have 2 feats. I can knock out another one of these with a vigilante talent, but I'm still missing at least one.

How should I remedy this?

Drop rapid reload and for now just carry more guns? The guns cost 5% of normal value.

Last thread got me thinking, and somebody really needs to stat Draphs so I can shamelessly steal Granblue characters for my apps to /pfg/ games.

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>>51421571
Sweet. Has my interest then. Didn't mean to sound hostile, just the main thing I look at harshly in fix attempts is when people try to simply copy overtop with a more successful mechanic and refluff it.

>>51421278
Not a food item but I had a magic mug I put in a campaign I ran. It would fill itself up with hot tea or iced water on command, at-will. But the particular mug I gave to the PCs was cursed such that the mug would always fill with whichever drink the activator desired less.

>>51421278
>Fucking animu meat
There are so many things about that picture which triggers me as an artist.

>>51421532
An oft-repeated statement my friends hear from me is, "Death is the best cure for status conditions." This isn't said of Pathfinder so much as of games in general (IIRC I first said it when playing Persona 3).

>>51421553

Hey not every adventurer pops out of their mothers womb with tiny magical comets orbiting their head. For a couple levels atleast they still need to eat and sleep like the non-adventuring peasant class.

>>51421553
Which one removes the need to sleep?

>>51421672
It is entirely possible for them to have funny faces, yes.

>>51421926
So let's see, he'll need to learn long arm to stretch his arms out just for you, and...what else? Levitate or air walk to inflate himself just like a bal-loon?

>>51421695
Drop the VMC and become a human.

>>51421695
Honestly Point-Blank and Precise are only there as prerequisites. Firearms especially past level 4-5 are hitting against a low enough AC that the -4 will become quite inconsequential.

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>>51421636
You need more images. Always seein' the same 5-10 out of ya.

>>51421985
Don't forget he's either a Vanara (CHA penalty monkeys) or an Orang-Pendak (tiny orangutan sasquatches), and that either way he digs the Bard's tunes and is most likely seen as insane by some.

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>>51422067
If y'all won't post punch girls, you're gonna learn to deal with it.

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>>51422099
I've given you a punch girl already! But have another!

>>51421700
Why not just fluff them as aasimar or tieflings or something? Do you really need precise numbers for your wank fantasy?

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>>51422099
Does this count?

>>51421375
>"food heals you, potions are inefficient"
I don't like the idea of bookkeeping for it, but I like the idea that food is high return but slow and potions are low return but instant.

trail rations at a "short rest"(or whatever) heals for 1/4 hp, sleeping in a nice bed with a nice meal grants full HP and a temporary stat buff.

>I eat another portion to get temporary HP
>"Roll a fortitude check"
>"You try to cram another bowl of stew down your gullet but honestly, you can't eat anymore. Roll a second fortitude check."
>"You throw up all over your tunic. Jerry, you still need to mark an extra beef stew use off the pot."

>>51422193
No, but now I know what to do with the White-Haired Witch archetype that isn't just "have a moustache/beard".

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>>51422099
best punchgirl incoming

Why are Slayers considered better than Swashbucklers?

>>51422226
Because a Slayer is actually functional.

>>51422201
sounds like you wanna play ryuutama.

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>>51422099
I only have Rare Deltas.

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>>51422146
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>>51422247
God bless you all.

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>>51422259

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>>51422259
No problem!

why is there so little good art of Farah? oh right it's because I'm basically the only one who liked tales of eternia

>>51422226
A substantial amount of Swashbuckler's class features are actually just low-quality attempts to make up for gaps in the fundamental system, like one-handed finesee weapons sucking, everyone being better off with armor, Charisma doing little to nothing for anyone, etc.

In contrast, the basic playstyle of the stalker is much more functional using the base system, and its class features build on top of that.

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>>51422099

More of a Barbarian than a punch girl, but a starting point for my Striker.

On a Spheres of Might matter, how good are the Spheres for taking on things like Swarms? Because seriously, fuck that entire subtype. My GM has a goddamn fetish for throwing them out if he sees everyone's got nice weapons.

What do you do to get ideas for characters?

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>>51422259
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>>51422336
Dick around

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>>51422259

What would you recommend for a sneaky sort of character?

>>51422336
Think about characters that I like, and try to translate them into Pathfinder.
OR
Think about a build I want to try and make up a backstory and personality that makes sense for them and has some decent hooks for the GM to exploit.

>>51422336
Usually I'll start with a bit of an idea (I want to play race x or class y or social class z) and expand it outward into the game premise (why would an x, y, or z be traveling with the party, what do they expect to gain, what drives them) and just follow a train of conclusions until I settle on a backstory that makes sense.

Also I listen to a lot of music.

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What are your synthesist summoners like?

>>51422226

The Slayer has a pretty big advantage on a number of fronts.

One, the Slayer can use medium armor and shields, and besides the ranger is the best sword and board 1pp class in the game, so in AC it will often be easier to keep defenses up than the light armor+dex+nimble swash.

The swash has two bad saves, and worse his only good reflex save is reflex, so he's vulnerable to both save-vs-instant-death fort effects and the mind-woogie every martial dreads where the GM not only takes you out of the fight with one d20 roll, they get to make you look like a fucking idiot while they do so. To counter this, the swashbuckler must use CHARMED LIFE, a limited resource that puts him on a shorter clock than most casters despite being an all-day class, AND is anti-synergistic with every other swashbuckler class feature. Slayers just need to pump wisdom and take some will-protectors, they've got good fort.

Slayers have more skills than swashbucklers and can with a little work be very capable skill monkeys. Swashbucklers do acrobatics and face, but Slayers can do both with a little tweaking, along with scout, trap-bust, and explore/track.

Swashbucklers are married to rapiers and their default fighting style has feat taxes to work like it's supposed to. Slayers can use any kind of weapon they want, and with Ranger Fighting Styles, can get almost fighter-level bonus feats while skipping onerous feat or stat taxes.

Swashbucklers need to manage swift actions very carefully to use their class features, and CHARMED LIFE makes this more difficult. Slayers just need to set Studied Target and go to town.

>>51422383
Vigilante. U Rogue. Shadow Bloodline Sorcerer. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY SNEAKY!?

>>51422191
Not for my wank fantasy, but I want my recreations of my favorite characters to be as faithful as possible.

>>51421278
>Why are there so few food items that give mechanical benefits
Because as soon as a player finds one they like, it's too easy to have it "always on".

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>>51422439
Usually a ripoff of Monster Hunter monsters.

>>51422447
They're just titty halflings with horns.

>>51422226
Slayers can represent a broader range of character concepts, such as ones that are actually effective at a damage-dealing combat job, in a way that doesn't cost resources and isn't as MAD.

Neither class is inherently much more effective than baseline at noncombat things, but Slayer has 6 + Int skill points, features for a tracking specialty, and a talent every two levels among which all combat feats (some of which are prereq-free due to Ranger combat styles) and a bunch of Rogue talents are included. I'm not sure if anyone else gets to actually know enemies' exact remaining hit points, either, which is a minor unique perk. Swashbucklers' noncombat feature is a nonscaling improvement at jumping and climbing shit, at the cost of the resources it needs to have available to make its combat style less bad. Everything else is on making the rigid ass combat style less bad.

Is Major Creation a useful spell? What have you used it for in your game?

>>51422490
But what breed of halfling, you ape?
What alternate racial traits, what ability modifiers, what FCBs?
I need to know all these things

>>51422336
Lots of ways.
>How do I make a contradiction make sense?
Some two things that don't fit intuitively, craft a backstory and mechanical effects to blend then together.
>Cosplay
This one is pretty obvious.
>building outward
The classic "wow I never knew about that feat, let's build something around that to use it".
>Hyperfocus
"I have the best ____", I think I had a character with 52AC and level 2 before, that was fun. Things like that.
>Decision tree
Crap I died > What does the party need > what does that decently well? > Which is furthest from what I usually do? > How can this fit into the campaign? > Done.

Is there any kingdom/nation that have eunuchs?

>>51422610
Any one that has rapists and Paladins to catch them yeah

>>51422646

I don't mind it, so long I can play court games. Indeed, I was thinking of a character who did it to himself to escape gambling debts.

>>51422646
And when the man's a woman's victim?
What do they cut off then?

The clitoris?
The tits?

>>51422709

Female archers should amputate one of their breasts with a red hot sword.

>>51422709
They sew it up.

>>51422610
Qadira, or whatever that new city is that is so fucking rich only because WOMYN ARE THE DOMINANT GENDER YO. .

What's the name of that magic item that's basically the ear pieces that secret agents would use to talk to each other? It came from one of the campaign setting guides I think, Taldor or Andoran IIRC.

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Gonna be putting my players in a position where their usual weapons and spell components aren't with them. What are some common improvised weapons a household might have in a fantasy setting?

>>51422759

I thought it was because they're sitting on one of the biggest gold veins on the planet and have close trade relationships with Druma AND Katapesh?

>>51422806
Dragon dildos

What spell/item could my BBEG use to contact the PCs so the two can introduce themselves to each other? Not just a short 25 word message or something where the BBEG can talk but the PCs can't answer. Something that enables a lengthy conversation. Do I just need to create "Greater Sending" or something?

>>51422806

peasants

>>51422806
how about no? improvised weapons are shit unless with the necessary feats for them, and only wizards have to worry about spell components.

>>51422806
Carpentry hammer, duh

>>51422831
Illusion or Project Image spell

let the players talk to the BBEG through a portrait, or statue of his likeness

>>51422806
Letter opener, hell everyone has a knife in a house

>>51422806

Apples! Very small rocks! A duck!

>>51422855
A portrait is actually what I was originally planning on doing, I just wanted to know if there was something in the game that already served this purpose.

>>51422903
Project Image.

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>>51422897
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>>51422823
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/monk/archetypes/paizo---monk-archetypes/monk-of-the-empty-hand

Monks are Fun. FUN!

>>51422239
I'll be honest, I looked it over really quickly and I do. I really do.

At the very least, I want to read some play reports.

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>>51422936
>monks

oh boy, absolutely ONE situation where they're useful for something other than bait.

>>51422936
>talks about monks
>posts a card-caster / staff adept magus

>>51422956
That's easy anon! They're the strongest class in the game at Level one. Maybe at Level two if your party doesn't know what they're doing

>>51422817
Shh, anon isn't gonna listen to reason when he can hate women instead.

in b4 'I don't hate women, I just don't think matriarchies should exist'

>>51422982
Card Caster Staff Magus is actually a really decent build and works well together.

I just really hate how you lose out on medium armor proficiency because at around 8th level, that mithral shirt just doesn't cut it anymore.

>>51422941
the last time I played it was cute and fluffy

>>51422998
>Monk
>not Barbarian
Nice try.

>>51422998
What do Barbarian?

What sort of cleric is the strongest?

>>51423082
The one that stays back and keeps his mouth shut. While holding everything together by himself quietly.

>>51423040
question about staves.
>Recharging Staves: Staves hold a maximum of 10 charges. Each spell cast from a staff consumes one or more charges. When a staff runs out of charges, it cannot be used until it is recharged. Each morning, when a spellcaster prepares spells or regains spell slots, he can also imbue one staff with a portion of his power so long as one or more of the spells cast by the staff is on his spell list and he is capable of casting at least one of the spells. Imbuing a staff with this power restores one charge to the staff, but the caster must forgo one prepared spell or spell slot of a level equal to the highest-level spell cast by the staff. For example, a 9th-level wizard with a staff of fire could imbue the staff with one charge per day by using up one of his 4th-level spells. A staff cannot gain more than one charge per day and a caster cannot imbue more than one staff per day.

Its not specifically worded, but can a caster spend their downtime fully recharging their staff to full charge just before any actual combat?

>>51423082
Any cleric that can get the Self-Realization domain. Paragon Surge at 4th level.

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Okay, the technician is in EARLY states, but what I can say is that it's going to be related to our trap sphere, as well as being very 'toy heavy' in what it can do, also going to enjoy crossbows.

>>51423158
>>51423082
I'm a big old dummy. Paragon Surge at 7th level. The benefit is that it doesn't need to be a Half-elf.

>>51422998
Barbarian or Witch is the strongest level 1.

>>51423162

Crossbow crossbows, or will this enable me to play Edgar and go full auto crossbows.

>>51423188
Aegis or Soulknife if we're including 3pp.
But yes, spammable slumber hex from the witch at 1st level can be gamebreaking.

>>51423162
I like everything you just said.

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>>51423162
do I hear trick arrows?
I'm hearing trick arrows.

Also, why is there no Fletcher archetype for fighters or rangers to craft trick arrows during downtime?

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>>51423162
>our trap sphere

Will it help support Disguise checks?

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>>51423222
I believe it'll be a different kind of weapon modification than the blacksmith.

>>51423229
As did I.

>>51423260
Possibly, this is something I actually worked with myself in the upcoming Trickshot Sniper, which is all about trick arrows.

>>51423353
No.

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Tell me /pfg/, what do you think of the art for DHB's latest character. What does it make you feel?

>>51423373
>Pierce 3
>Spread 3
>Normal 2
>Normal 3
>Slicer
>Crag
>Cluster
>Wyvernfire
>Heat Tank Beam, Gravios-Style
>Rapid-shot crossbow for one of the above depending on the model

There's a lot you can do with crossbows.
And that's not counting the split-missile bolts, the TAG-A/B capital-strike beacon bolts, the heal bolts, demon bolts, armor bolts and all the status ones as well.

>>51423382
I think all the posts in the application thread are more minimalist than they ought to be

also don't think exposed vigilante and outrageous lyricist should stack

>>51423568
>I think all the posts in the application thread are more minimalist than they ought to be

Oh, yeah?

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>>51423539
>Using something other than pierce 3
>Doing things other than hame runs

Bro do you even Heavy Crossbow?

Also trickshot sniper has a lot of stuff like that.

>>51423568
May not look like it, but neither archetype modifies the same class feature, so they do.

>>51423382
Annoyed that he's still going through the annoying as fuck monkey gun spam build, because multiple creature character builds never slow the game down, especially in online text only games!

>>51423621
Almost none of them have sheets, maybe half or so have backstories

>>51423637
yeah but it has two class features that rely on an identity change that you don't have

>>51423636
Actually on some shorter monsters Pierce 1 is preferable to 2/3 due to the higher damage but lower number of max hits, and for Light Crossbows, whatever you Rapid is usually a good option even if lower level (take the higher one with it of course but it's more of a spare).

Some monsters will be utterly wrecked by well placed Normal 3s, moreso than Pierces, and then there's stuff like the rathians and deviljhos where thundershot rapids like on a Jinouga Vaporizer is almost just unfair.

>>51423676

>Almost none of them have sheets, maybe half or so have backstories

It's about two weeks to the time he wants sheets by. I'd be surprised if more of them did.

Backstories on the other hand are more immediately useful.

>>51423382
Honestly, kind of relieved. It's clear that when he wants to, DHB still has a sense of humor and can make a joke/poke fun for a bit. Not everything is grimdark or serious; although I don't agree with his creation (what with all of the actions happening at once and the fact he's a party of monkeys all on his own), I'm ecstatic at the sheer silliness of it.

>>51423676
Already been brought up with the GM and cleared. The henshin sequence is more of a "battle mode" instead of a pure change in identity.

>>51423676

Any that actually seem interesting? I've not been paying attention to /pfg/'s latest dumpster fire.

>>51423676
>Almost none of them have sheets, maybe half or so have backstories
I finished my sheet, and just started putting the finishing touches on the backstory.
But I am waiting to post in the character thread until those are both done, I don't see the point in putting a picture with everything else being 'reserved'.

>>51423753
Not to me, but you should probably look and decide for yourself

>>51423661
>not liking 『W E L C O M E T O T H E J U N G L E』

>>51422767
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/artifacts/metagame-artifacts/sliver-of-the-amalgam-mind

That? Is there a less cheaty equivalent?

>>51423719
>>51423661
Actually to speak to this how the character has been designed is evolving.

The first thing I did was take the Phantom out of the equation because balancing both Summoner and Spiritualist wasn't viable long term.

Next I made my monkey familiar non-combat because it'd be awful in combat. It's now a knowledge monkey.

Then I got rid of the idea of having everyone use guns because it was fucking impossible to do right. The Eidolon may eventually, but the animal companion will not.

At the moment the Eidolon is not designed to be a combatant, but another skill monkey.

So just the animal companion and my character will be appearing in most combat.

As for the characterization I realized that ever ship needs it's weird voodoo guy. So I gave up summon monster to be a Spirit Summoner and am using VMC Witch for extra hexes.

So now being a proper voodoo monkey witch doctor with a gun is within my reach.

>>51423921
Well, that's better, but it still feels like a lot of parts for an online game to me. Guess we'll have to see when you finish the sheet.

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>>51421278

>>51410062
New lewd game recruiting.
Text-based smutty dungeon crawling based on pic related.
Pondering switching from Skype to IRC for our OOC.

>>51423957
Why not use Discord?

>>51423973
Switching between smutty and non-smutty accounts on Discord is a bitch.

>>51423989
Just use one for everything~

>>51424036
And let my snooty RP friends know I'm a harlot?

>>51424039
But they'd only know if they were also on the channel, so fair's fair.

>>51424044
Or if they were scrolling through this generalist thread and spied my discord ID. No thank you, I'd never be invited to another yacht party ever again; at least not without sniggers and comments about my having it off with the waiters.

What would be a good template to add to a Lich to make it more challenging?

>>51424081

Lower its CR by 2 and it is more challenging

>>51424085
Do you mean I should treat it like a CR 10 monster, or nerf it so it becomes CR 10?

>>51424081
Swarm

>>51424122

Treat it lower level

>>51423989
Personally I run sandboxie for shit like that, assuming Discord doesn't want to let you have multiple copies open.

I know this isn't exactly a gamemodes thread but I'm a forever GM and I'd really like a casual game to play in once every two weeks or so. Does anyone have room for me?

>>51421278
Is no one gonna comment on how the bone looks like a dick? Took me so fucking long to figure out what was going on here, thought the character was shoving a dildo up their ass.

>>51424671
You may be literally blind.

>>51424636
I meant to say Gamefinder, and also meant to drop my Discord.
Sunstorm#0871

>>51424636
Wanna join an evil lewd game that starts around midnight American time on Wednesday night/Thurs morning?

>>51424705
Ehh, how lewd and how evil? That's basically a perfect time frame for me since I always have Thursdays off. You can message me on Discord to drop me info.

>>51424716
I'm on my phone at the moment but can contact you later.

Also, somewhat evil and pretty lewd.

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>>51422291
>>51422223
Because Tales of Eternia is a pretty much unknown game in the west that only a few people played because the other "Tales of" titles got much greater hype because they came out when the PS2 was the new groundbreaking console. Later Eternia got an absolutely godawful anime adaptation which pretty much nailed its coffin.

Kind of sad really in the game Farah was a pretty dress wearing-understanding-slightly tomboy personality-chi healer-monk done right. Frankly despite not being that unique she was still the most memorable character from Eternia, which is due to the rest of the cast being pretty bland.

>>51423676
Got to like the new one
>Please don't break game
>Uses loophole to get every level 0 spell infinitely at will

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>>51424818
>implying that's breaking the game

Fucking please.

>>51424754
I'm OK with that, but I'm defenitely not getting lewd on mic for a bunch of fa/tg/uys so I hope it's a text game.

>>51424818
M8, they're fucking cantrips.

They're hardly breaking the game. They're so shit that even Paizo's okay with letting you use them A L L D A Y.

Paladins are lawful good
Dont accept any other paladins

>>51423719
>it took a party of monkeys to make you realise that dhb has a sense of humour and not the giant naked fat guy specced into stealth

>>51424828
>>51424841
>40 spell like abilities usable at will.
>For a trait that is meant to only be usable by others.

>>51424921
40 CANTRIPS.

>>51424921
40 ways to waste a standard action except in normal, expected, and balanced ways.

>>51424921
>spell like abilities that rival things from lighting a match to a punch from a commoner in utility

I've used the trick before. It's very comfy but far from game breaking.

>>51424921

You know one of the other characters is a Magpie Mage, right? They can literally swap out to know any of those cantrips whenever the hell they want if it's in their spellbook.

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>>51421453

>>51421462
Depends on how their charisma is low.

There are people who look quite pretty but are garbage at being a human being.

Alternatively you could look like you lost a fight with a lawnmower

>>51421462
Oblivious, usually. I intentionally ignore social queues, and generally act stubborn. I usually just don't describe my physically appearance.

>>51424943
>if it's in their spellbook.
There is a limiting factor is the difference, they need to know the actual spell not too familiar on Magpie mage, but I am going to guess it costs them some kind of resource, not a lackluster SLA and a Trait.

>>51424926
>>51424933
>>51424939
If you think the Utility of every cantrip at will is trivial you don't understand the power that versitility has in a narrative standpoint.
With every cantrip you can, never run out of water, create wind, always know north, lift things up from afar, open and close doors from afar, identify magic items, read magical writing, summon an instrument because you needed it for some reason, get +2 intimidate or Diplomacy, Detect Poison, Create Sound, Scoup up Liquids, +1 to all saves by casting a spell every minute, search for traps/secrets at range, and start a fire with ease.
If you are looking for combat potential this is not it, if you are looking for an unlimited tool box it is.

>>51425024

>some kind of resource, not a lackluster SLA and a Trait.

Nope. If they ever see a spell cast or they have an item with it (Including a spellbook) they can swap out a Mimic'd spell for it. They have a limit on how many can be mimic'd at once but it's a non-action to swap them so that limit doesn't matter too much. For 300gp they could have all 40 of those spells (And 60 pages free on the book) and swap out as a non-action every single turn to whatever ones they wanna cast.

Spellburst Savants are 5th level spellcasters at 20th level but they do a LOT with those spells, getting a heap of free metamagic.

>>51425024
>If you are looking for combat potential this is not it
And that's a big reason why it's not game breaking. Look, have fun with your thing, it sounds neat. You're not exactly stretching the boundaries of a normal game though.

>>51425024
The far worse part of the character is the fucking ridiculously stretched "Explanation on Mechanics" section. It's already hilarious that section even needed to be written, but he may as well have just titled it "Mental Gymnastics to Justify my Character Choices"

>>51425068
That is still a gold cost, and if they need the book in hand that costs actions or a free hand, not a huge cost, but it is a cost.

>>51425086
>Thinking the game is 100% about combat
I am sure you think a full attacking fighter is worthwhile too.

>>51425103

Nah, just on them. Not in hand. Can be in a pocket or backpack.

Said character can also do it with literally every other spell in the game for every single class (Though at level 7 the'd only have 2nd level spells.)

>>51425103

Ok, what is there that this character could do that 'A 1st level caster' can't already do with 'Have cantrips'

>>51425100
It should have been a stipulation that characters have been serving under Barbados Slim for a few years, at the very least. Right now, there's a few characters on there that are VERY thin on the revenge motive. I don't think an individual is going to feel betrayed when they don't feel indebted to the betrayer, or have only known them for a very short time.

>>51425103
>Thinking the game is 100% about combat
No that's not what I'm saying. You're really not getting it? When you're just roleplaying or fucking around in town nothing you can do with a cantrip or even 40 will ever break a campaign. They're just not powerful enough. Yo could cast literally all 40 of them in one day and not do anything that a little roleplaying couldn't also accomplish.

>>51425141

Eh, the game doesn't really say it's about revenge. It's more about 'Avoid getting executed'.

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Where do you usually find character art anons?
Trying to find something for skypirates game

>>51425184
pinterest

>>51425184
Gelbooru with the tags original and rating:safe

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>>51425184
Furaffinity.

>>51425221
Yeah no.
I can't go on there without adding a couple of dozen mb of new porn and then forgetting what I went there for.

>>51425255
Learn to put rating:safe in the bar before you start searching you nerd

What's a good slut class?

>>51425528
Vigilante.

>>51425528
Any primary caster besides Oracle, also Bard, and Barbarian.

>>51425562
>Oracle
>not sluts

>>51425574
Oracles always seems kind of boring to me. I hate it when classes hand you features instead of letting you build them.

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What's a good strategy for overcoming a bunch of haunts? Our entire party only has three uses of 2d6 positive channeling between us (because of idiot "stoic warrior cleric" boy.)

>>51425199
No need to spoiler that, the bitches there scavenge the entire web to get those images so it's a good source if you don't want to head dive into deviant art.

>>51421462
Just be yourself, friend

>>51425617
Fire, lots of it.

>>51425617
Are you actually mad that someone didn't powergame their character and is roleplaying?

>>51425637
stormwind

>>51425589
I dont get you
All classes are handed out abilities

>>51425640
You say that as if its supposed to be some kind of excuse or answer.

>>51425640
You struck a weak bait

>>51425589
Isn't that the point of having a class-based system over a point-buy one like GURPS or M&M (or Anima, which is only pretending to be class-based).

>>51425641
Well sure, some. But the Oracle takes it up a notch. It's boring the build and play one.

>>51422336
I avoid jerking off for three days, and on the evening of that third day, I allow the hellish blue fog to plant a seed in my desperate subconscious, then I turn that into mechanics and rules.

>>51425589
Opposite opinion here, anon.
Can't stand Fighters basically being a pile of DIY feats.

>>51422610
All of the Oriental and Sino realms have them.

>>51422806
Daggers and clubs, a staff or two

>>51422806
Knives, Clubs, Quarterstaves, Hand Axes.
But really I would say have them count as the weapon instead of the improvised version, improvised weapon rules are kind of bad.

>>51425528
Witch, Bard, some Clerics, monk, swashbuckler, basically anything that's either sexy or useless

>>51425637
Yes, because homeboy could've had better CHA to help a brother out and kill ghosts. Instead he's always just "muh Iomedae," and "muh elf heritage," and "much forbidden love!" It's pretty pathetic. Everyone would've been better off if he had skimped a little on DEX shit so he could heal and kill ghosts more.

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>>51425801
Why isnt fighter on that list then?

>>51425617
You could always try retraining into cleric if it bothers you that much.

>>51425817
You could've stopped at yes. Everything every yes is just more yes. You're mad at him for not making his character a servant of yours.

>>51425823
Fighter got promoted from slut to legitimate (albeit flawed) romantic interest with Adv. Trainings.

>>51425857
Fuck, he doesn't need to play a servant, but literally no one gives a fuck about his cute Tiefling waifu, especially when we're being raped by ghosts

>>51425870
No ghost blanch?

No force damage?

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>>51425870
I care more about his cute Tiefling waifu then I do about your bitching.

>>51425828
Busy being the designated full-attack guy, son. Somebody's gotta be a vehicle for receiving buffs and chopping on nerds.

>>51425892
>Busy being the designated full-attack guy, son. Somebody's gotta be a vehicle for receiving buffs and chopping on nerds
>Thinking full attack guy is better then CoDzilla
No wonder your group is struggling you sound like the weak link here.

>>51425887
Level three, playa. Plus these haunts aren't like normal ghost dudes for some dumb reason. Can't just whomp on them.

>>51425899
Haunts are never 'normal ghost dudes' those are ghosts they are different.

>>51425870
You're asking for essentially one extra channel. The mod doesn't actually effect it by very much past like 3rd level. You're crying about someone else not having fun the way you want them to. Channels are weak as hell as damage at those levels anyways, if a single channel is really the deciding factor then your entire character must have severe weaknesses.

>>51425899
Oh haunts. You're going to need more than postive energy. You need to stop whatever is causing it.

>>51425892
You're actually mad that your party all made characters who can act on their own because they aren't carrying you?

>>51425899
Whoa hold on, these are actual literal Haunts and not just slang for a ghost? The monsters that are IMMUNE TO CHANNEL ENERGY?

>>51425938
Haunts are not immune to channel energy.
But Haunts can not be killed in the traditional sense, even if you destroy all their hp they come back you need to put them to rest.

>>51425899
In other words stop blaming your cleric and start thinking with your brain.

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You'd better hurry if you want to get an app into Fluffy Tails 2 soon!

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65518/a-fluffy-fairy-tale-2-electric-boogaloo

>>51425891
She's some underage Keleshite floozy he picked up, though. It's pretty sick, especially the way he and the DM would carry on about her horns and shit.

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>>51425980
>Defensive Abilities: IMMUNE CHANNEL ENERGY

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>>51425984
That's a pretty big 'if', anon.

>>51425897
>>51425924
Man, I heard this was a game about specialization and stuff. He's buff utility dude, I'm chop dude, there's a nerd chick, it's supposed to work out

>>51424809
I liked how all the characters, while still pretty one-note, had things to define them well - your hero character is more interested in hunting than heroics to start, the quirky manic girl actually knows more about what's going on than anyone else and is trying to share it, there's just a huge language barrier, and the mage... well, the mage is a shit, pretty much.

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>>51426015
Clerics don't give a shit about you, especially not clerics of Iomedae.
I get the feeling you're going "that's a cleric, clerics are X" instead of remembering role playing games have you role playing.

Ok /pfg/ I'm playing my first and last high level wizard. I've got level 9 spells for the first time outside of a one-shot.
I don't expect my playgroup to ever be high level again for at least years. Seeing as how they're all talking about moving away from pathfinder and it took us 2 years to get here and all games we've ever had before in 3.X never got past the early teens.

So as I'll probably not get a chance to do this stupid shit, so give me some high level wizard things you like doing so I can cross them all off my bucket list.

>>51425909
>>51425938
>>51425918
>>51425980
Hey, DM said Channels would neutralize them. Fuck me for trusting him. Still sounds more useful than 14 fucking DEX on a STR-based combatant with armor and a shield.

>>51426015
>Man, I heard this was a game about specialization and stuff
Yeah, and clerics can specialise into chopping better than you can.

>>51426070
Clerics are defenitely not strength based. Just because they swing their weapon with strength does not make them a strength based combatant. Don't be a bitch just because he's playing a different role than you want him to. Besides, Dex is still useful for many skills, saves, and AC. What's strength used for, like three skills and carry capacity? Stop crying already, you're clearly in the wrong here.

>>51426059
What the fuck kind of heroic Champion doesn't want to help a brother out? It's dumb; his mission and his comrades should rate higher than some Abyssal slut.

>>51426101
>What the fuck kind of heroic Champion doesn't want to help a brother out?

You're not being very brotherly yourself, y'know.

>>51426101
>every character in every game by every player should have the exact same priorities
>if he's not building his character specifically to help me, he's doing it wrong

>>51425998
Is that a specific haunt with the immunity?
>On the surprise round in which a haunt manifests, positive energy applied to the haunt (via channeled energy, cure spells, and the like) can damage the haunt's hit points (a haunt never gains a Will save to lessen the damage done by such effects, and attacks that require a successful attack roll to work must strike AC 10 in order to affect the haunt and not merely the physical structure it inhabits). Unless the haunt has an unusual weakness, no other form of attack can reduce its hit points. If the haunt is reduced to 0 hit points by positive energy, it is neutralized—if this occurs before the haunt takes its action at initiative rank 10, its effect does not occur.

>>51426101
Are you trying to be in character or not in character? It sounds like you're roleplaying a person who's dumped intelligence, but in-character the person wouldn't accuse another person of being born more lithe instead of pretty, so it might be you're being retarded instead of your character.

>>51426111
No, just "Haunt". I have no idea where you're reading your piece from.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/undead/haunt

>>51425984
The GM extended the application dates!

That means the current applicants aren't good enough! If you want in, now's the time to shine!

>>51426121
Paizo
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/gameMasteryGuide/haunts.html
No mention of channel immunity.

>>51426142
The gm is overly specific in what he wants, sounds like a waste of time.

>>51426105
It's just rough when you freely die like a bitch a level into the game, make a new dude because it's a team game, and then Elfy McGee is too busy waxing poetic about his tramp to design a character that's group oriented. I'm pretty sure he still would've had the best initiative without the DEX, too, because he took the feat.

>>51426121
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/undead/haunt
That's not a Paizo monster. That's a Frog God Games monster. "Haunt" in Pathfinder refers to a specific phenomena.

>>51426143
Oh, I didn't realize that I wasn't reading Paizo until now. It's the first result for "pfsrd haunt" on Google.

>>51426149
>overly specific
Yeah, "a trap," "a small/medium titty girl," "a big titty girl"?

That's not specific at all.

>>51426160
Specific enough where I feel I have to cater to someone else's desires for who my character is and not be interested.

>>51426151
>it's a team game
>but the only member of the team that matters is me, everyone buff me and do nothing else
>so help me if I see even one of you spend a single resource to do literally anything besides help me I will cry about it endlessly
>YOURE ONE CHANNEL BELOW COMPLETE MINMAX??? GET OUT OF MY GAME!!!

>>51426151
If you've already died once and are worried about needing channel, why not be a good group member and roll a cleric too?

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Alright boys, who wants a lewd game in the Elemental Plane of Fire?

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67687/the-sultanas-hot-slave-harem

>>51426154
Yeah I started scrolling to the bottom of every page to see where shit comes from, to much name overlap.

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>>51426183
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67687/the-sultanas-hot-slave-harem
>account was created today
Really fires those neurons...

Exactly how many lewd games are going on here now? Are there any normal games recruiting?

>>51426183
What's a good class to dress like that?

Also any advice on getting in?

>>51426201
Like half of /pfg/'s lewd games have been under throwaway accounts.

I imagine it's to hide from the identity of being a lewd GM.

>>51426183
Could I stick in an "I'm interested in joining" even if don't have much of my character in mind?

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>>51426201
I'd like to keep my main account separate from my degenerate lewd account.

>>51426213
Anything with unarmored AC?

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>>51426231
Sure. I understand, it's hard to think of characters for level 16 gestalt.

>>51426246
>level 16 gestalt
If you think I'm going to spend that much fucking time making a character for someone who might just drop the campaign or be a shit DM you are sadly mistaken.

>>51426266
Not DM anon, but
>You DON'T need to have a sheet for your app! I'd suggest leaving a sheet until you get picked.

Read, motherfucker.

>>51426279
This statement is completely irrelevant to my post.

Is there a rogueish class with unarmored defence that benefits from high cha?

>>51426328
Yeah, but it's Kineticist.

I guess you could go Summoner.

>>51426354
>Yeah, but it's Kineticist.
Are they bad?

>>51426182
Is double Cleric ideal? Won't they compete for similar sets of items?

>>51426175
Man, my first dude died to help the others get away from some crazy necrobeast. Noble sacrifice and shit.

>>51426382
I think they're fun, but I understand why most people look down on them. Basically they don't Excell anywhere, and they lack meaningful utility. Meaning they're are not a jack of all trade and also are a master of none. But, I've had a good time playing them.

>>51426328

ranger

>>51426421
Literally what.

>>51426409
This isn't fucking WoW. You don't roll Need or Greed you moron, and Cleric is one of the most diverse classes out there. Two clerics with different domains might as well be two separate classes.

>>51426328
You could take the Prescient Dodger rogue talent from Spheres of Power--lets you add your highest mental ability score (plus scaling bonuses over time) to AC and CMD as long as you're not wearing armor.

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>>51426246

Am I the only one that actually has an easier time making a high-level character than a low level one? There's only so many variations of the level 1 backstory you can write before it becomes dull, whereas high levels have infinite variation in how they came to be that way.

>>51426499
That's not true, you're just boring and uncreative.

>>51426499

You just write Mary Sues.

>>51426532

Not true.

>>51426536

No!

>>51426499
I'm nearly 30 and have been playing this game for 13 years, and I'm not even close to running dry.

>>51426574

I'm just saying it's easier to write a high-level character than a low.

>>51426634
No, what you said was that you can't think of anything new for a low level character. You're uncreative.

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>>51422439
Iron man or a Tager.

>>51426651

No! I'm totally creative!

>Wait a minute... Cavalier mounts don't get the share spells companion ability! Does this mean my cavaliers mount can not gain this archetype?

>Companion archetypes (especially the Charger archetype) were intended to be available to cavalier's mounts.

>A cavalier's mount should therefore be treated as having the share spells feature for the purpose of qualifying for animal archetypes.

Does DSP have a similar stance for the Ravenlord which also does not have the share spells feature for his companion?

>>51426183
Hey, I may actually be able to play in this if it's starting in a month. That 16lvl gestalt start is a bit much, though.

Anyone has a feeling it's just Fluffy2 GM under a different account?

>>51426428

Ranger (and Fighter too iirc) have CHA to AC archetypes

So how does gestalt usually work, are you locked into your two choices for the rest of your career or can you multiclass with your second class "slot"

>>51426931
I'm pretty sure you can multiclass with both classes. If you want to be a fighter|sorcerer 1 gunslinger|wizard 1 paladin|monk 5 I don't know why you couldn't.

>>51426931
You can multiclass both sides just as you would with a normal character with one exception - you can't take levels in two PrCs at the same time.

>>51426840
>Anyone has a feeling it's just Fluffy2 GM under a different account
Looks more like Sleeping Goddess to me. It's even got all of 2hu's questions pre-answered that was asked in Sleeping Goddess.

>>51426973
>>51426941
Do you only have one FCB point per level? How does the racial trait that lets you take two favored classes interact with Gestalt?

>>51426995
I really don't get the whole new account bullshit. Getting a new account every time your reputation is smeared only to make yourself really easy to identify and further ruin your reputation for being a disingenuous fuck doesn't really make any sense.

The fact that the community is pretty much static where actual new people are rare and don't really last doesn't help either.

>>51427002
Gestalt rules were made for 3.5, so any interactions with Paizo's FCB rules are solely at the GM's discretion.

>>51427038
Or it could just be witch hunt anon trying to smear 2hu's name again by making a new account that would readily be identified as 2hu.

>>51427002
>>51427046
That generally means you get ONE FCB, and yes, you still only get the one FCB "point" per level.

>>51427120
If someone hates you so badly that they are willing to go out of their way to make you look like shit then you have likely done something to earn such ire.

>>51427120
wouldn't be surprising at this point. the guy is obviously obsessed beyond any reason with 2hu

>>51427120
Might fool some people, but I know 2hu is too busy marvelling at Kamikagari while at the same time pulling it apart, and also doesn't seek to do deliberately lewd campaigns. 2hu simply innocently makes character concepts and scenarios that make others climax with just the idea of them.

>>51427181
Not necessarily anything very important though.
I had two coworkers whose bad-blood stemmed entirely from one of them shitting himself.

There were 4 stalls mind you, but the guy who exited first got all the aggro for mr-poopypants, and from then on it was constant, constant bullshit like "what? you still haven't done any work on that dossier? you can't just rush these things and hand them in on friday man!" when a superior was walking by, or stealing the batteries from his wireless mouse, calling him from public payphones at all sorts of hours (that one I was only told about, I can't confirm myself since obviously I wasn't around), even going to HR and explaining that he's making him feel "very uncomfortable because of all the sexual talk". Shit that can seriously cost a guy his job.

In the end they BOTH got fired, A because of the complaints stacked up against him, and B for making them up. Yeah, go figure.

>>51427237
>Muh idiom
You know that its entirely possible that this touhou fag is pulling a triple samefag and bullying himself just so he could gain sympathy right?

>>51427280
You know it's entirely possible that this 2hu is pulling a quintuple samefag and that both of us are actually him?

>>51427299
You know it's entirely possible that this 2ouhou is pulling a septuple samefag and time and space no longer matter, for we are jerking off at the speed of light?

>>51427299
Then the best course of action would be to abandon this whole 2hu bullshit and ignore any posts for, by and against him just to be on the safe side.

>>51427310
I'd agree with you, except from time to time he's got some good points. He did a breakdown of Akashic with analysis of which veils are actually worth it. I'd never play with him, but I'll read his mechanics stuff, you see what I'm saying?

I need some cute Pixie pictures, anyone got any?

>>51427309
You know it's entirely possible that this 2hu is samefagging so much that like 60% of /pfg/ and /pfg/ games is just them under different personas?

>>51427280
That was something I've considered shortly but it is really unlikely.

>>51427181
Not really. Some people are just fucked up so they invent reasons and imaginary or exaggerated slights to be angry at. Then it can easily grow in importance in their own minds, until it doesn't really matter what was the reason - hate remains. Look at this site entire and you will see it often.

>>51426995
>implying Sleeping Goddess and Fluffy2 don't have the same GM

>>51427343
I'd play.
I mean, sure, there's some obvious autism there, but

>This is PFG, there's no small amount of the stuff in here to begin with

>Anyone that detail-obsessed probably draws a mean dungeon-map or at least handles the loot list beautifully

>It can't be worse than "you only think my single Vow of Poverty Monk//Samurai sucks because you're transphobic", "NO! LESS TALK, MORE ABOUT HER TITS. DESCRIBE THEM TO ME", or "voice only, no "push to talk" bullshit, I've got this bag of sunchips and the local trains drowning everything out every two minutes and you assholes better listen" or "I am SO drunk, let me spend the next hour talking about that instead of running this game" or eternal-noshows
Or any other number of dumb shit we've seen on here.

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>>51427386

PFG I am watching, as I'd 2 threads ago, I still have 300 pages Grimoire of Lost Souls, plus new edited content. Quit your shit.

>>51427394
There's only 3 people in the thread and two of them have been responding to themselves for this entire time, the other one was actually agunas asking if someone wants more babyfur.

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>>51427409
Please don't do this to us.

>>51427386

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>>51427406
... I don't know who this is, but it can only end in hentai.

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>>51427386

>>51427429

>Slutty sex demon
>Wearing a semi-translucent nightie
>Still has on panties and a bra

Why? Everyone knows those are hottest without those things!

>>51427429
The character is Reatier, anime is When Supernatural Battles became Commonplace.

>>51427457
It was a Steam game so needed to have no nudity.

>>51427412
Oh shit, did I fall into some sort of Fight Club situation here?

>>51427386
I'm at work. I'll do it when I get home.

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>First session of RotJR tonight

>>51427548
Next week, anon.

>>51427457
she's often not wearing it, she just happens to do so in that picture.

By the way, you can get her bra and panties as an alternate costume.

>>51427562
Nor the week after that.

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>>51427038
>The fact that the community is pretty much static where actual new people are rare and don't really last doesn't help either.
Outsider to the community here. I occasionally consider joining in, but there's so much shit in the system already and you all seem to know each other, to the point where you can call each other out from what appears to be anonymity, that I quickly get discouraged.

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>>51427638
Fellow new player here. I can confirm. Of all the games I've applied to none have selected me and I'm 87% certain it's because I'm new.

Advanced Class Guide is both the best and worst book Paizo wrote

>>51427668
>because I'm new

That's likely a much smaller factor than you think. Meme potential and dumb luck are also part of it.
>t. Person who accidentally into a game

>>51427720
>Investigator and Slayer
>Swashbuckler and Arcanist
This is the truth.

>>51427720
This is a fair assessment of the situation.

>>51426656
Ah, the only cool part of CTech, and it was straight up stolen from The Guyver.

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>>51427620
>SHOW ME THE WAY TO YOU

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Does the Wrath of the Righteous campaign look like it's going to be good?

>>51427785

>lewd ERP game
>good
C'mon now son.

>>51427798

Rise of the Jade Regent was advertised as potentially lewd and it looks great.

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>>51427640
>that ass

>>51427811
how can you fucking know when not a single session has been played

>>51427811
RotJR was a poorly worded "we'll acknowledge 18+ topics, and maybe go further if players want"

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>>51427825
Maybe he's from the future anon.

The future!

And he forgot that in this timeline Return of the Jedi Remastered hasn't happened yet.

Thhhheeee fuuuutttttuuuurrrreeeeee!

>>51426183
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67687/the-sultanas-hot-slave-harem
>level 16 gestalt
>As if that is in any way a good idea
WHY

I should apply with a lich who spent all of his gold making simulacrums of himself and building a secret underground base for them to mass produce potions of healing in and crash the world economy. And then have a scroll of teleportation circle hidden in my chest and linked to my crafting station of doom so that if someone does manage to defeat me, suddenly a hundred miniature copies of myself will pour forth from my chest and slaughter everything in the immediate vicinity

>>51425024
Doesn't it pretty much constantly break stealth though, since to use it you need to speak up in a loud and clear voice?

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>>51427842
>And he forgot that in this timeline Return of the Jedi Remastered hasn't happened yet.

And it never will.

>>51426183
Wait, is this by the same guy who did the Sleepy Goddess game? Was that canceled or something?

>>51427916
2hu would probably applaud that level of optimization for his game.

>>51427798
>no erp in the game itself
>just likely a bit of nudity and suggestive behavior

>>51428011
I'm sure cancelled implies that, like this one, it was ever going to run.

>>51426183
Someone convince me that I shouldn't apply with a cute wizard monstergirl that in order to infiltrate the harem has a Collar of the True Companion locked onto her. Stats would be getting a bit of a buff from other magic items, and the feeblemind is removed as soon as the collar is removed, so I could still adventure

>>51428111
Has ANY game advertised in /pfg/ ever ran?

Ever?

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