Pathfinder General /pfg/
Sole Survivor Edition:
Have you ever been in a TPK? How do you think your current character would handle being a sole survivor of a TPK?
Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/hAfKSnWW
Avowed Playtest 1:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5HkyGRtGZy3SWVhdWFBWERWWjg
Avowed Playtest 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rV7kaF9JL2gw9xQalkEnlEDL9WXtbsaCqNABm_pLIgc/edit?usp=sharing
Malefex Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W3LrE8WyIxxYRr8d9dHsWioeUk_-HZaSMqVWRnzc9Fc/edit?usp=sharing
Spheres of Might previews:
Part 1: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aLaYQEFAWU4zQBx58boJPPaySLgJc0Emmw9eKyIJeGI/
Part 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pyLq03W2ju58PcKOUq5YXoFowf_weBNzuWtjCMdINXk/edit
Old Thread: >>51421278
So when will there be a version of the Avowed that has (Su) instead of (Sp) abilities?
Could I get help with pathfinder character creation in this thread, please?
>>51428775
>>51428910
>10 skills per level + background skills
>using stuff to make some skills pull double dutyor more
>still not enough skill points
fuck
>Rereading my application to Sky Pirates
>An entire paragraph somehow got deleted
I can assume the Capn is going to reread all applications when it closes, right?
>>51428910
>Sole Survivor Edition:
My party is playing all edgelords like usual so I'm playing pic related to fuck with them. They're going to try to be apathetic mercenaries who don't bother following our DM's quests, but instead I'm going to drag them into every sidequest because These People Need Our Help!
Paladin1/Summoner1, paladin for shining righteousness, Summoner so I can have a unicorn pet and summon tiny birds and mice to sing with and make me dresses.
Suggestions for items / builds / ways to fuck with my edgelord team.
>>51429096
Presumibly, yes. He'll reread the apps when it's time to choose his players.
Or if he's smart he doesn't look at the app thread at all until it's time to pick, that way he doesn't form any basis.
>>51428910
>Have you ever been in a TPK?
3 times, but never in PF.
>How do you think your current character would handle being a sole survivor of a TPK?
Rationalize it away. The others died because they were weak. If they were strong like him, they'd still be alive.
>>51428997
Yes, because making something that cast spells cast spells impossible to stop or counter is a good idea. I seem to recall the Witch Sleep hex getting a huge amount of bad press....
>>51429116
You've got the right idea with your pic. Duettist Bard, be a fucking Disney princess with your singing animal friends.
>>51428997
after we get a variant of the Self Discipline based around swordplay rather than Unarmed.
>>51429116
I'd say being a singing, unicorn-riding princess who constantly agrees to do things without consulting the group in a party full of edgelord mercs is fucking with them plenty.
>>51428776
Close.
Suffice to say I that being a 4 year old I was guaranteed to be the ringbearer at their wedding, and my niece was the flowergirl. She was 3.
Yeah. They got married a month after they turned 16 (both in july).
She actually kept her kids thinking my name was ACTUALLY "Uncle" till they were 6.
They stopped believing in santa before that.
>>51429115
Well, you know what they say... When it's naught but girls...
>>51429006
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "KGB-tier", but for a fight-guy with some nasty tricks, check out Slayer.
>>51429315
How is Slayer different to Rogue?
>>51429278
Actually I don't know what they say. What do they say when it's naught but girls?
>>51429382
It is better in every way.
>>51429116
people want to have fun, if you want to be a LG paladin be one, but your friends want a different game
>>51429398
Tonight...
>>>/u/.
>>51429382
Full BAB, better talents, less sneak attack, less (but still significant) skills, and can gain the same abilities.
>>51429315
>I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "KGB-tier"
he means NKVD-tier
>>51429116
>implying you won't just get stabbed in the spine while sleeping in the middle of the first session.
>>51429425
Oh. Okay then.
>>51429437
Oh. Well, probably still Slayer, then.
>>51429406
How, though?
>>51429419
>>51429445
The players only care about killing monsters, they don't give a shit what happens outside of combat. I'll be doing them a favor by giving them an excuse to fight things.
>>51429425
Ohhh...
>>51429481
you are killing the fun, and I'm called pally-cop in game, they'll stab you in the back
>>51429468
Class features that are actually useful, instead of just sneak attack and underwhelming talents.
>>51429502
>giving players an excuse to actually do the DM's campaign
>killing the fun
The edgelord thing isn't a conscious decision by them about what type of party they want to play. They're just too dumb to make characters with depth beyond pic related.
What's the spiciest fighting style currently in vogue on /pfg/?
Huge axes? One-handed swords? Spears?
>>51429634
Tits
>>51429116
Chosen One archetype for Paladin. Look it up.
>>51429576
we had a neutral evil and a lawful good (me) in the party, I didn't try to change their way to play, the dm can redirect you to his own quests in many ways, he doesn't need your help
>>51429674
Tits?
>>51429696
Bouncing tits.
>>51429634
Dual-wielding shields.
>>51429705
BLUE BOARD!
>>51429576
wasn't the original quote "nothing personnel, kid"?
I wanna go full Blackbeard style and wield six pistols- fire two in one round, drop them, next round, draw the next two, fire, etcetera. How do I go about this?
>>51429705
>>51429156
Actually, important question that is definitely wholly theoretical: Would/Should Battle Dragon Stance do anything to Spell Combat, IE: Reduce the penalty?I'm hurting myself, but I can't stop
>>51429696
Yes, the things that anime girl doesn't have.
>>51429850
>2017
>Wanting useless sacks of chest flesh
>>51429909
>>51429909
Actually, they help feed newborn children.
>>51429909
don't we all?
>>51429943
Itty bitty titties will feed a newborn just as well as Onryou-tier cow tits.
>>51429991
If you have tiny tits after a pregnancy, something is wrong and you need to see a specialist.
So! Who all's excited for the weekend? Any big plans, game-related or otherwise?
>>51429785
TWF and Quick Draw.
>>51430119
That's a smol fex. I've got no games this week, so I'm getting in touch with some friends about setting something up.
>>51430119
Dreading it. I need to work on my char's backstory but I'm drawing a blank besides some basics. And what I do have is like four times smaller then the other applicants in the game, so I'm concerned if I don't think up some more stuff to add soon I'm gonna get passed over. Again.
>>51430119
I'm so excited! I've got a big job interview next week that will take my NEET card, the folks are leaving for a three week trip so I've got the house to myself, and I've just got a Closed Beta invite for "For Honor" so I'll be playing that all tonight and tomorrow!
>>51429933
are you trying to make me feel sad again
>>51430184
Only if you don't appreciate the girl first and the boobs second.
Remember, it's the tits on the inside, not the tits on the outside.
>>51430159
>giving up NEET
DON'T DO IT! You die if you work!
>>51430217
That's the gayest thing I've read all month, and I read yaoi mangas.
>>51430232
Life is full of little deaths, and this might be the chrysalis which births a lovely moth that circles the flame of mediocrity until it sizzles out!
>>51430159
>new job
>no supervision
>new vidya
This will go poorly.
>>51430251
>Life is full of little deaths
Oh, I wish it would.
>>51430259
Well first off, Mr. Grumplekins, the beta only lasts the weekend.
Secondly, I'm getting a job interview and then two to three weeks of being processed, which means between now and the folks coming home I've done everything I can do to advance my professional career!I'll probably go drinking for half of them. If I'm lucky, I'll kill my liver and me in the process while my life is looking like it's on the uptake.
Big or small, I hope we can all agree that the shape is the most important aspect.
>>51430339
Wisdom.
Been thinking over a few homebrew traits for my group, thought I'd run 'em by you guys to see if they seem OP.
Civilized (Race trait, gnoll): You have spent most of your life in one of the great cities of humanity, having abandoned the ways of your people to enrich yourself. You begin play with Common as a bonus language, and gain a +1 bonus on Bluff and Diplomacy checks made against non-gnolls, but you also take a -2 penalty on all Charisma-based skill checks made against your own race.
First-Born (Race trait, gnoll): You are one of the few gnolls to survive out of your mother’s first litter, and are clearly favored by a demon lord to have such fortune. Once per day, you may add your Charisma modifier (minimum 1) to a damage roll.
>>51430309
I revoke my previous statement. This will not go poorly. This will go disastrously.
>>51429785
You don't, because you'll never be able to afford to make all of them magic weapons.
>>51430398
And I'll be posting here every step of the way!
>>51430411
But this isn't the "For Honour" thread... Nor is this /vg/...
>>51430417
N-Not during the beta, I mean for the next couple weeks!
>>51428414
>>51428429
>>51428431
>>>/f/3207871
>>51430382
How many people in your group really play gnolls? You running a game for furries, or are these just for flavor?
>>51430459
That swf works so well for Pathfinder.
>>51430459
Is anyone else surprised that Strange Aeons is just about over, and it's been memed so little around here that we don't even know how the first book goes?
>>51430600
Isn't it kind of the point that no one knows what's going on in the first book?
>>51430119
Running a RotRL game for some friends who haven't played PF (or TTGs) before.
At thistletop, going to try tobull rush players into the bunyip's lair
>>51430600
The first book has you trapped in an asylum for the whole time with nothing but your starting gear. It's really nothing special, though a clever GM could do something with the whole Freddy Kreuger-ish idea the module introduces.
>>51430626
But what about the second or third or fourth book?
Have we met Harry P. Loveboat yet?
>>51430642
No, but you meetAl-Hazared
>>51430793
The Mad Arab? That's fantastic!
>>51429425
Hand banana get off the Internet.
>>51430841I'm not sure if it's the real him--you meet him in the Dreamlands long about book 3-4, so it might be some kind of copy or ghost.
>>51430864Who's to say the Dreamlands and those within AREN'T real?
>>51430600
Book 1: Have fun with nothing but in dinky dagger
Book 2: Save the town of STDMore
Book 3: Get ready to go to La La Land
Book 4: Welcome to La La Land
Book 5: MUAHAHAA I AM THE BAD GUY
Book 6: Is that the Eiffel Tower?
>>51430893
Marche says so.
>>51431087
Fair enough. But does the dream end simply because one woke up?
>>51430600
Does H.P. Lovecraft actually appear?
>>51430232
I tried to be a NEET. Then I realized I needed money to live and eat and preferred giving up 8 hours of my day to being homeless.
>>51431205
There's also the age-old tactic of working a year and then living off the earnings of that year for another year.
>>51431202
Does he have a stat block? If so can you post it?
Do they reference the death of Lovecraft's mother?
>>51431202
Does Randolph Carter appear?
Aka Lovecrafts self insert.
>>51431242
No, but I'm totally going to play a Randolph Carter now.
>>51431226
That's part of the plan. In my industry however it's hard to take years off and stay relevant.
I'm saving up 30k which should be able to support me for two years.
>Go kitsune, with keen kitsune for the int bonus and replacing magic with Superior Shapeshifting to get Fox Shape for free
>Use delicious +4 dex bonus from being tiny to power weapon finesse/deadly agility
>Go Ravenlord, fly around from level 4 onward on your sweetass birbro
>Use mithril current to shoot 1d3+bunch of bonuses bite lasers
>Pretend to be familiars for rest of the party if stuff comes up
1. How dumb is this plan?
2. Can I use Scarlet Einhander when I have only the one natural attack, or does it need an offhand to function?
3. Should I even bother to have a backup weapon, or are two amulets of natural weapons not sucking going to eat all my money?
4. Please, someone convince me not to do this, I can already tell it's gonna be a shitshow, albeit a hilarious one
Who else is excited for the Nirmathan AP? Tell me! Tell me!
>>51431346
>Nirmathas
Fucking elves go and stay go.Everything I've heard about it sounds like it'll be a miserable CG wankfest.
I'm gonna be starting a campaign from lvl 1, I've decided to roll up a Skald. Any things I should keep in mind? It looks like I might be the only one with any support abilities and there might be only two of us at the front line.
>>51431345
1. Astonishingly.
2. Not sure how it interacts-it specifically says "wielding a melee weapon in one hand", though, so I'm betting it doesn't.
3. Those amulets get hella expensive, man.
4. DO IT YOU FOPPISH DANDY.
>>51431346
I'm feeling great about Nirmathas getting this shit kicked in my goblinoids and Molthune having to make a great stand, alone and devoid of allies, against the Ironfang hoard.
This is a moment where Molthune might be able to break the chelaxian chains that still hold it against the earth.
>>51431464
You're the dedicated buddy bro of the martials, keep that raging song going and they will fawn over you.
How is AC actually supposed to scale? Id there just a certain level where I don't even look at my players' rolls because the typical opponent can't reach higher than like 18 on the extreme end of "dextrous" enemy types unless they come decked out in optimized magic equipment sets that will balloon PC wealth out of control?
>>51431546
Give everything magic tattoos, my man
>>51431546
Natural Armor. Just pile it on, there's no limit when you're making enemies. As an example, Stone Golems have +18 Nat Armor.
>>51431546
AC's supposed to stop multiattacks mostly, and iteratives. If your players are vital striking cournogon smashing strike using people, then yeah, you probably don't need to bother but if they're full attacking it's a hell of a lot of damage reduction.
Also, just have a friendly wizard cast mass shield for a handy +4 buff to anyone not holding a shield.
>>51431546
The fuck are you talking about.
Let's take a high end example:
>red great wyrm
AC 39
>Daemon Harbinger
AC 39
> Julunggali
AC 38
So the first attack from a bull BaB character will probably hit. However unless the PC is optimized their 3rd or 4th iterative attacks are probably gonna miss. A 3/4 BaB character is in an even worse position.
Kingdom Building- I'm interested in it. Is it worth taking a look at Kingmaker or should I explore the Ultimate Campaign Book?
>tfw your hasted falchion slayer gets three crits and three crit confirms and one-shots the boss
>>51431654
The system in Ultimate Campaign is basically the same as the one used in Kingmaker.
How do I calculate a monster's CR after applying templates and NPC class levels? How about for player class levels?
>>51431664
I actually do the following:
>friend is a TWF dex based kurki user rogue
>I'm a STR based heavy pick wielding barbarian
>he uses Butterfly String
>level 8
>he has 5 attacks with haste
>generally at least 1 crits
>I come in with the x4 crit weapon to devastate what ever was standing there
>>51431722
I should mention I trying to make a variant giant wasp queen with levels in aristocrat and I feel like it's more powerful than it should be.
>>51431664
>tfw your hasted archer uses rapid shot and manages two crits during a turn
>tfw someone bitches because you did a lot of damage with a bow crit
>tfw you're not even a real martial, so you're doing relative peanuts for damage anyway
>>51431675
Oh, really? Is it needlessly complicated?
>>51431722
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules-for-monsters/monster-advancement
Check out this page for the info you need.
>>51431777
THRIAE QUEEN
>>51431769
You know, I might suggest that to the TWF Bloodrager in my group.
>>51431780
The other players don't complain that I'm the only one dealing more than 20 DPR, which somehow makes it worse.It's a Warpriest and a Bloodrager, and they're not using their spells! Or raging!Really doesn't help that the GM put the TWF 'death of a thousand cuts' build up against a dozen enemies with DR 10/Adamantine.
>>51431664
>Hasted fighter/ranger
>Shield bashing and crit fishing because crit cards
>1 crit and 3 fumbles, crits with shield
>Confirm all
>Beat straight through a demon's DR 10/Good with just raw power
>Bull rushed to the back of a room
>1d6 int damage, get 6
>Deal *3 times normal damage and drop weapon on the first attack
>Get no fumble because no weapon
>Feel good
Sphere Question
So if I use Empower Spell with Ghostly Admixture and Drain Ghost Strike do the negative levels I inflict also get empowered?
>>51431886
Pretty sure they do since they're variable.
>>51431886
Yeah.
>>51431929
>>51431919
Bueno. Thanks guys.
Yo all, intrigue archetypes drops today, so the inquisitive detective, trickshoot hood, and talented tactician are out.
There's also rumblings of a possible early playtest going on for Spheres of Might at 'half content', I'm doing my best to make sure the open playtest of the entire thing is open to everyone as soon as possible.
Thanks to a conversation the other day, the lancer now has options to leave weapons that they impale inside of an opponent, and even attack said weapons for even more damage (aptly called reverberation punishment), or impale them with multiple weapons and rip them all out at the same time for a bloody good time.
Is there any way to get Con mod to Reflex/Will/skills? I can get it just fine to AC/CMD/attacks/damage, but that leaves two rather obvious wholes in my defenses. 3pp is fine, the usual Forrest/Jolly/DSP/SoP combination.
>>51432017
> lancer
Small, tiny. Insiginificant gripe but..
Is that name negotiable. I feel like Lancer carries too much imagery? Why not Impaler or Reaver since the class apparently works fine without one.
>>51432070
It's also the cleave sphere, which benefits from a reach weapon. The thing is that we're doing our best to make sure that you can do things with whatever sphere, which is why boxer is still called boxer even being able to counter with light weapons.
The lancer sphere is going to hopefully work better with a polearm, but at the same time, it's not demanding one.
>>51431664
>tfw your charging sminting keen improved crit falchion paladin strikes the deathshrieker
>confirms with ease
>x3 crit with first hit smite, bonuses out the ass
>it dies immediately
>>51431780
>tfw the party sorceress will never look at you with utter disgust when you're jerking it under the covers
>>51432017
>and even attack said weapons for even more damage
I'm imagining someone impaling an enemy on their spear, leaving it there, and then doing a spin kick pushing the spear through the enemy and leaving a gaping, gory hole in them.
Will there be something for the sort of gag attack of impaling a dude, then keep going (aka bull rush) and impale the dude behind him, and the dude behind that dude, etc.?
>>51432125
My deific obedience involves me not only jerking it, but subsequently shouting how great I am at jerking it.
>>51432125
>mfw it's a mildly lewd campaign and I'm totally okay with doing some implied self-loving, but I don't know if the rest of the party is into it and I'd rather only do it if it's another player's kink
>>51432125
>>51432176
>>51432135
Right now there's not, but considering we're combining cleave with impale, it is something that's worth considering. Right now you can only impale an opponent with a single weapon, but there are talents that'll let you multi-impale (pincushion punishment), up to 3 weapons inside of them, while others will let you impale them into walls or the ground or even more precisely to increase the penalties of being impaled.
>>51431618
So, only monsters should ever be used against PCs, no humanoids, no city adventures, no good villain or villainous armies in your campaigns? The question was obviously about humanoid opponents you fucking idiot.
>>51432214
But if you sleep with your hands above the cover then the monsters will get you. Why do you think civilized people sleep in a warm cocoon of blankets?
>>51429909
Can confirm that tits are great for dirty tricking.
>I rip off my bra. Dirty trick to blind and/or shaken.
>... What?
>You heard me.
>... Sure, roll it.
>Nat 20
>... He's fascinated.
>>51431541
The only problem that it's Martial, possibly. One other person on the front lines and myself, I was hoping to help out but try to keep some distance with a glaive.
Is the Ragesong gonna be worth it with only one buddy using it other than me? I was considering just going Slayer, but the party does need some support.
Is Sky Pirates DM in this thread?
Does he want character sheets as part of the applications? The discord is in disagreement with rumors amuk.
>>51432214
That's no good, they're just going to start fussing and squirming.
>>51432245
if you need enemies that are humanoid to last longer give them natural ac, or give them more hp.
>>51432214
But I'm not a good boy, anon! I'm a very bad boy! The kind that would have urges in the middle of the night after spending a whole day fightin' and drinkin' with huge-chested party members that brazenly show off their ample cleavage.
>>51432245
Base 10 +5 natural armor +5 deflection +14 armor, then either shield or other misc bonuses and you're easily getting to around 40 AC.
>>51432337
He never said you could try asking him in the roll 20 so he is more likely to see it.
>>51432245
Have them actually parse out survivability like PCs do.
I can stack AC WAAAAAAAAY above 39 for a PC at level 20, up to the low 90s.
Actually learn how to build a character fucknut.
>>51432569
That tends to involve them fuck tons of loot to take. Unless you just have it disintegrate on their defeat or something.
Tips for a grace build Warpriest besides the usual weapon finesse, slashing grace?
>>51432598
Go for deadly agility from Path of War if you don't need a weapon for precise strike or similar. It's not like Weapon Focus is a *bad* feat tax, but it's still a feat tax, and limits you to one weapon.
>>51432595
Depends on how you do it, item restrictions, curses that well do not overly hamper the enemy would hamper pcs, and charges/use items that help defences are all options.
AC is the wrong way to protect yourself anyways, you will get more mileage out of 20% concealment then you will out of +10 ac as the concealment can stop crits, and ignores what your opponents ab is.
Also by using concealment items you remove the whole issue of oh look item bloat because well concealment does not stack.
>>51432598
What is your plan with slashing grace?
>>51432672
Slashing Style, Slashing Grace, slash the wizard in the face?
>>51432647
It's painfully obvious you have never played with a party that is good at dealing straight HP damage via physical attacks.
I'm new to PF, what are Barbarians actually expected to do armorwise? They get medium armor, which hard caps their speed at 20, then they get Fast Movement...?
>>51432672
No not deal -1 damage off my 9 strength. Don't know what you're asking.
>>51432688
I would say two weapon fighting and kukris would serve you better for a war priest, overall slashing grace seems bad, you would do better using either a two hander and power attack or two small, light weapons, and go crit fishing with that scaling damage on them.
>>51432726
What do you plan to do with it, what is it doing for your build? How do you plan to make it work for you? It seems lackluster.
>>51432688
>slash the wizard in the face?
Yup. Can't wait to spend a fervour to swift cast Silence on myself and lay into a wizard. Grace build helps this if for no other reason than having good stealth and initiative.
>>51432740
not that guy but he's dumping str and pumping dex to do dex to attack/damage.
>>51432595
Not always. An alchemist does it almost entirely with personal buffs.
>>51432724
>They get medium armor, which hard caps their speed at 20
Medium armor isn't hard cap, it just reduces your speed by 1/3 rounded down to nearest 5 feet. So a human barbarian with fast movement would have base speed of 40, then medium armor would reduce that to 30.
>>51432724
You could also get Mithril armor, which reduces the weight of it by one category when determining how fast you move. So it'd bump it down to Light, which doesn't slow you down.
>>51432740
I plan to not be incompetent in terms of dex/ACP skills, initiative, ranged capability. We have a dedicated beater in the party, looking for a versatile build that still can fight.
How does leaping around the battlefield during a fight work? Like, if you're fighting somewhere where there are lots of holes and chasms, so instead of going around them you want to take a more direct route to your enemy by jumping over the holes. How does doing that affect the maximum distance you can travel?
>>51432765
Above 40 AC, sure. Low 90s? Hell no.
>>51432944
Acrobatics checks are made as part of a movement. It doesn't influence the total distance you can move unless the GM rules that it counts as difficult terrain.
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67687/the-sultanas-hot-slave-harem
Who wants to join some Plane of Fire lewds?
>>51433017
jesus
christ
>>51429116
You fool. They're going to teleport behind you and unsheathe their katanas SO hard.
>>51433017
Can you go and stay go? Your degeneracy is not welcome here.
>>51433017
Can you go plaster this garbage on game finder or something?Please?
>>51431202
wait, does he? I only saw The Mad Arab.
Which, to be honest, WAS quite cool. Throwing Abdul Alhazred at your players does have a certain charm.
>>51432270
Fascianted?
Tits like this and a fucking 20, I want him dazed.
>>51432724
Usually you go around in medium armor, the +10 feet from fast movement compensate for the armor slowing you down. Later on, as noted, you can go for mithril for moving in full speed or adamantine, which iirc stacks with your DR.
Ultimately, your AC isn't that high, but you focus on offense anyway. If the armor stops some secondary attacks, all the better.
>>51433017Will you allow homebrewed cursed items for lewd purposes? Is that something best discussed over pms?
>>51433009
So then, what about jumping over one person to get at another? Do you just a vertical element to a horizontal jump to find the DC, and then have the PC only expend as much movement as the jump covers horizontally? If they fail the acrobatics check, where do they end up?
So, /pfg/, let's say I want to run a MAD SCIENCE! campaign for my meatspace friends. We'd obviously be looking at an all-Alchemist party, but where should I set it? Ustalav, where that sort of thing is common - or perhaps somewhere it'd be harder to do?
Video related, I've been listening to it on loop for way too long.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWA6YlVMwqQ
>>51433245
Go Numeria, let them be Technic League goons and give them access to any and all tech related feats and no cap on how much the can spend. Enjoy as they create zombie cyborgs for the glory ofUnity
>>51433162
What do you want?
>>51433128
I know, right?
I wanted to take a feat to daze people with dirty tricks.
What the fuck is a Manasaputra, and how many types of instantly-forgotten Outsiders are there in this game?
If you VMC a class, do you count as that class for prereqs?
For example, can a character with VMC fighter ever qualify for the advanced weapon training feat?
>>51433320
To be honest, it is worth describing a situation where the dirty trick leaves someone entangled... because their pants don't fit anymore :) .
>>51433373
Normally I am not sure, but with fighter it should be okay, since you specifically get weapon training and I think it was stated somewhere that arsenal chaplains, myrmidarchs etc are eligible for advanced weapon training.
>>51433359
I think they're Positive Energy Plane natives? Or were those Jyoti?
>>51433359
You can NEVER have too many outsider types!
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/manasaputra
>>51433449
They aren't even listed in the great list of subtypes. What the fuck.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules-for-monsters/creature-types
>>51433373
Nope. You actually don't.
Despite having the Fighter VMC, you don't actually have Fighter levels. So even though you get Weapon Training, you don't qualify for the feat.
It could potentially be argued that you can trade out the second group for an AWT when you get it, but that's at level 19, so yeah.
How terrible is 12 con on a frontliner d8 class?
From a lore standpoint have hard would it be to turn a cleric of Calistria to being a cleric/paladin/devotee of Shelyn? As in are Calistrians known to be so stuck in their ways of backstabbing and "backstabbing" that not even their own children could traumatize them to convert?
>>51433480
Hmm, I was pretty sure that I had seen something about the VMC class counting for prerequisites,but I cannot find it. Fair enough, although I would expect this to be a common houserule in games that allow VMC.
>>51433502
How's your saves and AC?
>>51433504
I'd say slightly easier than turning a cultist of another CN deity to a NG one.
Calistrians are vengeful as fuck, but Shelynites tend to get away with a fair amount because their boss tends to get well with everyone - it is pretty hard to stay mad at her.
Calistrians would see any former members that went to Shelyn as pretty crappy followers anyway. There is a saying they have for such cases - love the dish, not the cook. At least there is a common theme that could provide an easy way for a Calistrian to switch - it's not like it's so hard to fall for someone you have a physical relationship with.
Can Dispel Magic affect Su abilities?
>>51432117
Hey Jolly, how well will SoM play with SoP? They're pretty much designed to work together very well, right?
>>51433738
But SoP already has lots of wholes, between Conjuration, Weather, and playing like shit with anything that deals with Paizo's spells.
And Destruction being either god awful or OP as fuck.
>>51433017
No futa?
Can I be a trap with big titties?
>>51433586
So it's not impossible for an old calistrian to get traumatized by her bastard son hating her and blaming everything bad that happened to him in his childhood on her that she goes through an existential crisis and becomes a Shelynite as a desperate attempt to "better" herself and show to her son that she isn't an awful personread:common whore and selfish as all fuck
>>51433752
>God Awful or OP as fuck
You know there's a thing called a middleground, right?
>>51433761
>trap
>big titties
For what purpose?
>>51433752
I ask because one day I wanna run a game of only SoP and SoM.
>>51433738
Ideally, they'll work together well. I can't say for certain since I'm honestly not the most informed on SoP (which makes me working on SoM feel a little goofy), but from what I've seen, it shouldn't be a real issue to mesh them well.
>>51433764
No, you see /pfg/ is stupid and doesn't base any decisions on math, so even something as granular as damage is ether GOOD or BAD.
There is no middle ground. If 150 damage per round is TRASH then 151 damage per round could be incredibly OP and game breaking
>>51433764
Not with Destruction.
Then again, given all the talent investment needed to make a good destruction caster that isn't easily shut down/kills themselves it's a pretty fair trade-off because at the end of the day you're still gonna be a less efficient, squishier martial with an AoE and ONE element that instagibs shit.
>>51433789
What do you mean for what purpose?
So I can be a character that has the physical appearance of a woman, but also has a dick and some balls. You know, to fuck other girls and traps.
Pretty standard stuff, right?
>>51432954
yeah, but against a level 20 opponent you only need 60 which you can handle pretty easily with self buffing.
>>51433762
Does the woman go out to find a man that's willing to accept her, wrinkles and all, in a bed for love after youth?
>>51433805
Destruction can be casually shit by someone who's just taking whatever looks cool, or totally encounter fucking by someone who knows what he's doing.
That's bad design, just like Broken Blade.
>>51433863
>Destruction can be casually shit by someone who's just taking whatever looks cool, or totally encounter fucking by someone who knows what he's doing.
Personally, I think the main issue is the way meta-magic can give you three spells in a round, combined with the incanter dip and other dips.
>>51433863
Yes, but it's possible to be a middleground too.
>>51433816
Well, maybe
But can you answer this question?What gestalts best with bard to make the best support character as per Sultana's chargen rules?
>>51433900
Oracle.
>>51433830
Elf, so being old really doesn't reduce the good looks, but yes.
>>51433922
>no full casters
>>51433885
The metamagic isn't the problem. You still have encounter fucking builds like 2hu's ALL DAY Stone Blaster.
>>51433900
>Sultana's chargen rules
Where are those rules?
>>51433890
And that means fuckall when the optimization floor and ceiling are so wide apart.
>>51433945
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4552874/the-rules
>>51433925
Old elves totally look old! They just have a graceful aging to them rather than frumpy wrinkles or unattractive sagging.
>>51433900
>support character
>in a game with only 2 PCs
For what purpose?
>>51433977
Maybe. Maybe not.
>>51433964
Best support class would probably be Bard or alchemist mixed with Vitalist.
>>51433979
To take it roughly in the butt
>Elves don't suffer aging penalties beyond Middle-aged
>They do however gain the mental boosts
How overpowered would this make Elves?
>>51433961
No, it means that it can still be done well without being overpowered.
There exists more types of people than 'knows nothing' and '2hu' you know.
>>51433816
No tittyboys allowed.
>>51434008
Is an old elf Calistrian woman the smuggest creature in Golarion, or is that still an old Tengu woman?
>>51434033
>an elf wizard can start with 23 int
You tell me.
>>51434043
It can still be done well.
Destruction hasn't been done well.
>>51434059
I don't see the issue?
>>51434060
I'm talking in levels of optimization, you twat.
It is possible to play Destruction at a level that is neither OP nor underpowered.
>>51434084
It's possible, but that makes Destruction hard to design for.
>>51434075
It would make their spell DCs damn near impossible to hit early on
How would you rate DHB's characters on a whole?
We have the following list:
>Exiled dwarven caravaner
>Cursed thief stalker
>Elderly spy
>Hugely fat boxer nudist
>Monkey voodoo witch doctor
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65518/a-fluffy-fairy-tale-2-electric-boogaloo
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/66875/wrath-of-the-raunchy
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67687/the-sultanas-hot-slave-harem
Which lewd games have you signed up for?
>>51434183
None, fuck off.
>>51434148
the characters in that pirate game are just awful so i'm hoping a touch of his 'tism will help things there.
>>51434183
None.
>>51434183
Literally no one has put an app in to Sultana's yetThough I'll be changing that tonight
>>51434075
Spell DCs.
Here's an array for this elf of ours. 25 PB.
STR: 8
DEX: 16
CON: 12
INT: 23
WIS: 10
CHA: 12
He gives up nothing for that 23.
>>51434148
SwimmingEagle has a better track record for characters desu senpai.
>>51433943
2hu's build stops being encounter fucking the moment iteratives come online.
>>51434203that makes me feel self conscious about my app anon
>>51434183
Not a one.
Begone from this realm, Nocticula.
>>51433885
That pretty much chews through your Spell Points incredibly fast. Quicken is +4 goddamn points.
>>51434183
First off, why is that maid wearing a bra on her head?
Secondly, the only campaign you listed that seems remotely good is Wrath of the Righteous, and that's only because it's an AP so we know the quality m.
So did Molthune actually die?
Is it confirmed?
>>51434203
Wah? Not all of them? I hope.Please list some exceptions.
>>51434183
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67687/the-sultanas-hot-slave-harem
Shit my first reaction to this is a build I made a while back for the "unarmed murder machine". I had a design perfect to infiltrate and kill sultanate.
Mostly because they're only level 17 and I'm level 16 gestalt. I'll just keep killing until they run out of nobility. Also I am almost entirely positive I can build a far more deadly character than this chuckle fuck.
Man, ruining this guy's game by immediately beginning to murder efreeti nobility and not stopping until he runs out of nobility sounds like a great time.
>>51428910
Does she get her revenge?
>>51433977
Well then she is the quintessential gilf, except instead of banging you just want her to hug you and give you warm juice while waiting for her cookies to bake.
>>51434282
Molthune is on "missing persons" after being last sighted in a seedy part of town.
There's a chance things will be fine come Thursday, but the odds are good it will be found face down in the river.
>>51434314
What happened?
I almost applied for that one but I just could not find an idea I liked for it.
Why don't you have awyvaranwaifu yet?
>>51434286
Looking at the build I really can't see the GM handling his nobility surviving unless he is MUCH more of an autist than I am.
>>51434335
Also what does the GM expect out of that game? Because his premise makes me think less "ERP" and more "murder frenzy as the City of Brass eats itself alive".
>>51434274
>Wrath of the Righteous
>good quality AP
Fucking no.
>>51434374
>TRUMPETS
>>51434286
>Mostly because they're only level 17 and I'm level 16 gestalt
She's not actually level 17 you dimwit.
>>51434285
>>51434246
the bomber and mechanic seem decent. Jonathan and Alexander are 'fine' but wholly bog standard pirates. the two most recent apps are completely nonsensical. several more characters are just a picture and a name with "TBA" in every other slot so not much to say there.
>>51434380DOOT
https://youtu.be/hzPpWInAiOg
>>51434329
DM didn't show up to last session, and has been offline since the intro.
>>51434374
WotR is a legitimately good AP with a tiny bit of revision, the setting and premise is THAT GOOD.
>>51434394
o-okay then
>>51434387
Give me level 16 gestalt and I can easily kill CR 35 creatures. Nothing short of GM fiat will save her.
>>51434433
>tfw never be this good at optimizing
>>51434433
Who's to say she won't also be optimized?
>>51434394
I was thinking about applying with a characterwho would have pretty much just been Pidge from the new Voltron series, but somebody had already posted a spunky girl engineer.
>>51434454
I'm just saying that there is a 99% chance I am much better at the game than you are for optimization. Especially for these sort of edge builds.
>>51434394
How does DHB fair in his role at the ship's witch doctor? Is that a fair role for a pirate to take?
>>51434457
Make one for WotR!
>>51434472
The sheer WBL alone for that high level an NPC is going to be ridiculous.
>>51434492
But I already posted a character for that!
>>51434472
plot twist, 2hu's running the game and just asked someone who could actually pass a turing test to write the premise
>>51434286
>more deadly character than a GM
Good luck.
>>51434505
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised.
>>51434498
Who's you?
>>51434433
Wow, it's almost like the bestiary is fucking garbage.
>>51434497
The game says she is level 17. Let's assume she has triple level 20 WBL.
I'm still not really afraid desu.
>>51434516
Like I said. GM fiat could easily kill my friend, but that just shows the GM is a bitch ass nigga.
>>51434483
i only read the character thread and it's just "TBA" on everything right now so i dunno
>>51434457
i would do it anyway if the setting interests you. after all people apply for the same job all the time right? you ensure that you beat out the competition by being twice as good as them.
>>51434537
>The game says she is level 17. Let's assume she has triple level 20 WBL.
She's not level 17.
She's a malik with 17 zealot levels.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/genie/efreeti/malik-noble-efreet
Her WBL is going to be way more than triple level 20 WBL.
>>51434537
>bitch ass nigga
Might want to look in a mirror once in a while.
>>51434505
>>51434519
Same catgirl belly dancer art that 2hu used in that infamous Katapesh post, just saying.
>>51434498
Which one is yours?
>>51434183
Wrath of the Raunchy--it's the only one that seems willing to accept actual characters, along with being the only thing that has an actual plot as opposed to being "gib chix plz"
>>51434394
What's wrong with the Twins?
Just that they're shamelessly "heh, cute girls. This pleases me."
>>51434558
This one?
>>51434558
Which post was that again
>>51434526
Dossentsi-
Dostenss-
Dossist-
The redhead soldier lady.Who I want to see end up gradually glamourized and sexualized as she levels up...
>>51434566
See >>51434592.
>>51434557
Never said I wasn't a bitch ass nigga.
>>51434556
Again, not really afraid. She's going to be around CR 30.
>Her WBL is going to be way more than triple level 20 WBL.
Not scaring me honestly.
See the thing is make her WBL as much as you want. Literally the build I have is designed to kill as soon as the character succeeds at an intimidation check, he bypasses immunity to intimidate, and auto crits on his coup de gras.
As soon as the intimidate check happens she's dead unless she is at the moment wearing a cyclops helm.
>>51434558
>>51434580
Bitch, I've seen that catgirl here in /pfg/ and elsewhere on /tg/, it's not like it's exclusive to 2hu.
>>51434607
>doesn't know that immediate actions exist
>>51434573
WotR DM here (very briefly because being sick has sapped me of all energy aside from leaving /pfg/ on auto), I like dignity with smut ya feel me? How lewd I get really depends on how open the players are about it. Personally, I could do explicit stuff during session, but, I also like getting along with the plot and combat cause I love me some story and I love adding in my own neato stuff.
>>51434607
You are literally more cancerous than lewd posters
You might think you're some kind of chemo, but you're actually just fucking cancer of a different variety.
>>51434556
If she's the sultana of the entire city of brass, she should probably have abilities on par with a demigod or actual capital-G Goddess.
>>51434612
You don't have an immediate action until after you take your first action in combat.
Buddy, try and keep up.
>>51434607
>auto-crits on his coup de grace
That's just how CdG works though?
>>51434592
Please tell us you'll at least keep the musculature. That shit is hotter than just being another chainmail bimbo.
>>51434626
Never said I wasn't cancer m8. I'm not trying to be a cure. I want this general to burn.
>>51434628
Not really afraid of that. Demon Lords are demigods and this build kills them during the surprise round.
>>51434631
There are a ton of "act during the surprise round" effects.
>>51434394
So which ones do you feel can be salvaged or need improvement,and how would you suggest improving them?
>>51434631
Correction, you can't use an Immediate action while FLAT FOOTED.
>>51434607
Break the Hourglass activates.
>>51434643
So what's your goal here, really? Just force a rocks fall scenario and get yourself kicked?
I wouldn't wish you on the worst That GM.
>>51434634
Correct.
>>51434651
You still don't have an immediate action.
>>51434660
Read up on immediate actions. You don't get one until your first action in combat, independent of being flat footed.
>>51434665
Again, need that pesky immediate action.
>>51434671
>So what's your goal here, really? Just force a rocks fall scenario and get yourself kicked?
Yes, then leave the game. The GM's goal isn't to have the story he presented, it's to wank it and not let the players accomplish anything.
>>51434592
Ooh, I love that girl! She's a no-nonsense fighter girl with a great physique!does she have a type?
>>51434658
seconded
>>51434631
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/religion-traits/defensive-strategist
>>51434394
>tfw most of them pretty much seem fine to me.
Maybe I just suck.
>>51434693
>Much like a swift action, an immediate action consumes a very small amount of time but represents a larger expenditure of effort and energy than a free action. However, unlike a swift action, an immediate action can be performed at any time—even if it's not your turn. Casting feather fall is an immediate action, since the spell can be cast at any time.
>Using an immediate action on your turn is the same as using a swift action and counts as your swift action for that turn. You cannot use another immediate action or a swift action until after your next turn if you have used an immediate action when it is not currently your turn (effectively, using an immediate action before your turn is equivalent to using your swift action for the coming turn). You also cannot use an immediate action if you are flat-footed.
>>51434607
Contingencies activate. Her initiative is higher. Temporal Body Adjustment.
>>51434693
>Using an immediate action on your turn is the same as using a swift action and counts as your swift action for that turn. You cannot use another immediate action or a swift action until after your next turn if you have used an immediate action when it is not currently your turn (effectively, using an immediate action before your turn is equivalent to using your swift action for the coming turn). You also cannot use an immediate action if you are flat-footed.
Not seeing shit about first action.
>>51434693
Then how does Clockwatcher work?
Clockwatcher
Discipline: Riven Hourglass (Counter); Level: 1
Initiation Action: 1 immediate action
Range: Personal
Target: Self
Duration: Instant
DESCRIPTION
By pulling your perception forward in time for the barest of moments, you are able to cheat fate and act when most would be caught unaware. Unlike other immediate actions, you can initiate this counter while flat-footed, and can use this maneuver at the beginning of a surprise round you otherwise would not be able to act in. You may act during the surprise round normally.
>>51434702
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/religion-traits/defensive-strategist
>the demigod of the efreeti worships Torag
>>51434721
>you can initiate this counter while flat-footed
Explicit allowance
Assuming third party is allowed, what are the BEST non-standard (no "power attack") feats to take as an einhander martial?
>>51434226
Dammit, Sega! If you won't make a sequel to Skies of Arcadia, just rerelease it with updated sound and graphics.
How does an immediate action save her from an intimidate check anyway?
>>51434728
So not being able to take immediate actions is reliant on flat-footed and not first action in combat you fuck.
>>51434693
But you don't want to play a game either, you just want to jerk yourself off over how good you are at optimization, and that's with no interference whatsoever. You're WORSE than the GM.
>>51434725
d20pfsrd.com versions are deity-neutral.
>>51434752
And? I never said I was better. I'm here to enjoy myself and this is how I do, by ruining the fun of others.
>>51434757
Did you actually read the note?
>>51434640
Oh, absolutely. My line of thought here is a gradual progression from semi-realistic soldier to Frazetta-style "impractically underdressed, totally self-confident, and impossibly over-competent warrior lady", rather than just a deameaning sexualizationthough I'm into that too in other cases.
>>51434760
No, but you're not even equally as bad as the GM, you're actively worse. If the GM is cancer, you're mega-cancer.
>>51434757
No they're not. They're just not allowed to have the names up because of copyright.
>>51434760
We have 3 rules man.
T H R E E
H
R
E
E
You are NOT being excellent.
>>51434747
>Thinking you are talking to one person.
>>51434743
The crew made a cameo appearance in valkyria chronicals.
>>51434771
And? I'm not sure why I am supposed to care.
>>51434783
>Tfw no Waffle Girl
I have been the sole survivor of a TPK twice. It was the same campaign and character also actually. First time assassins killed the whole party except me. I damaged them badly but they knocked me below 0, my wolf (I was a 1st or 2nd level druid) finished him off and managed to stabilize me. The second time we were in the abyss (level 12 ish, we were crusading with several dragons and ungodly strong mage). Well said mage towards the end decided to abandon us and opened a portal. The DM made a small mistake though, it was my turn next and I was next to him when he opened the portal. So like any logical person I jumped through the portal.....oblivious to the fact he made it unstable and that it would collapse after one more person went through it (it was supposed to be his brother). So everyone but me died again. My character was fairly desensitized at that point though.
>>51434783
shame they had to sully themselves by appearing in that game
>>51434785
Because when most people encounter a mega-cancer person they realize they can be safely ignored. When you're this much of an asshole you're a source of more hilarity than any fun you deny. They'll rocks fall you, kick you, then have a good laugh about how dumb you are and retcon it.
>>51434693
>Read up on immediate actions. You don't get one until your first action in combat, independent of being flat footed.
Where is this rule?
>>51434745
Contingencies (from Wishes), Break the Hourglass.
>>51434770
Nice~
And I'm gonna have to second >>51434694
this question.
>>51434812
And?
>>51434811
Valkyrie Chronicles was fantastic.
>>51434830
i disagree
>>51434830First one was okaySecond was awfulThird I have heard is good but I have not played it
>>51434826
And your stated goal is ruining fun. Which you will fail to do, instead becoming the source of fun yourself.
>>51434814
You can't contingency wish. It's too high level.
>>51434839
I've already accomplished my goal on this thread. My stated goal was merely a misdirection. I must thank (You) for helping me complete my task.
>>51434841
>not thinking about whatever bullshit the GM could invent for characters with 30 HD
>>51434841
Contingencies FROM Wishes.
>>51434851
>I was just pretending to be retarded
>>51434841
But you can Wish Contingencies.
>>51434851
>lololol i troll u
Avowed fluff question, if anyone can help.
>A creature reading or otherwise examining the physical contract can make a Perception check (DC 10 +the avowed's caster level) to decipher it, learning the level of avowed its owner has attained, what pact they made, and what clauses they know, as well as any feats from the avowed bonus feat list they've taken (even if they weren't taken as bonus feats).
How would you fluff this? It's obvious if it's a legal contract or anything with writing, but if your physical pact item is a ring or piece of junk from an otyugh, how do you go about getting that information from the object?
Do you just look hard at it and suddenly know?
Do you notice strange magic writing on it and instinctively translate it into the Avowed's user manual?
Or what?
>>51434852
I mean literally if it is the spell contingency it doesn't work. Has to be a new made up spell for the character.
>>51434851
Pretending to be a brain dead autist on an anonymous Malaysian screenwriting board?
How nefarious.
>>51434857
>>51434861
Why would you wish for contingency when you could just cast contingency and not spend 25k gp?
>>51434770
Why not both? She's hyper-competent and totally glam but sometimes gets used by those who manage to get her beaten down to her kneesand in typical fantastical fashion, the attention she gets is more "annoying" than traumatic.
>>51434867
My point is that a level 30 character could have a Super Contingency metamagic feat or whatever the GM has invented.
>>51434890
Because she's a zealot 17.
>>51434901
Yes, and you could use a scroll of contingency and still not waste the 25kgp.
>>51434783
Vyse also appeared in the anime shortly before dying ignominiously to artillery fire.
>>51434900
Quite literally if the character's power is "what ever I need at the moment to not be killed by the players" then why even have the goal to be to bring down her empire?
>>51434896
Fuck yeah--more Spunky Knight, less Fatalpulse.
>>51434915
It's an SLA, it costs shit.
>>51434900
Or you know just have contingency Planeshift to a personal demiplane then scry and fry by targeting the building you were just in with scry and having double time rate.
>>51434933
You're level 16 if you don't have immunity to scry by then you're being a baka.
>>51434573
Funny, out of all the apps it seems like guys are really getting the short end. Only five dudes out of like 20 apps, and two of those didn't seem to read the GM's application rules.
>>51434929
>Fatalpulse
Who that? Some NTR artist's old handle?
>>51434558
Have we confirmed it's 2hu because of using the same pic?
>>51434948
Either way you are not killing someone in a personal demi plane and they know who you are, that you are after them, and where you are, what makes you think they would not start a blood hunt?
>>51435002
I was being facetious. it's not fucking touhoufag because touhoufag can't write three sentences without dry-humping a thesaurus.
>>51435002
Do we even care if it is 2hu?
I don't see the point in this exercise.
>>51435002
No, but it's very convenient.
Anyone else find it kind of weird to be applying to games amidst this miasma of austism and witch hunting? And be apparently completely unknown, un cared about, and just shy of good enough to get in?
Is this what purgatory feels like?
>>51435013
So I guess everyone who's ever used that pic on /tg/ or /pfg/ is actually 2hu?
>>51434970
>Funny, out of all the apps it seems like guys are really getting the short end
Is this you subtly suggesting someone should make a man? Because I can make good guys, I'm just not sure if there's a real interest in PC x PC shenanigans (because heaven knows the antagonists are lacking in lusty demon ladies) considering the angle of many characters being "foot-long demon cocks shoved up all their holes" more than "casual flings with the menfolk to relieve stress."
>>51435042
>I can make good guys
Like real superheroes?
>>51435029
Not really just ignore the autism and witch hunting if they stop getting attention they will most likely stop.
>>51435029
>Anyone else find it kind of weird to be applying to games amidst this miasma of austism and witch hunting?
Nope, this is the best time to apply!
>>51435042
>not making a tiefling paladin for consensual demonplay bdsm
>>51435029
In the end, you're probably going to have a stronger chance at getting in for *not* having been made a meme.
Just make a decent backstory with a good hook or two, and a decent character--not even a fully-optimized one, just a good one--then add whatever little things you want. Making your passion and enthusiasm clear counts for a lot.
>>51435047
Em... nah.
Uh-uh.
>>51435047
You betcha, brother.
>>51435057Avowed || Paladin on a Pitborn Tiefling, is what you're suggesting?
>>51435049
But, what if I want feed back on my character app? Because of this cancer no one is actually giving feed back. Critique anon was an anomaly!
>>51435042
>foot-long demon cocks shoved up all their holes
And where exactly are you getting this? No application actually implies or states such a desire.
>>51435061
>Making your passion and enthusiasm clear counts for a lot.
>implying I'm capable of this
>>51435031
>>51435013
>>51435012
Points suggesting it's 2hu:
>using pictures 2hu has used in the past
>putting the levels of the BBEG in text for the opening scrawl
Points suggesting it's not 2hu:
>running high end pathfinder is something they hate, or pathfinder at all
>2hu doesn't make deliberately lewd campaigns
It looks like it's someone trying to fake being 2hu to me, honestly.
On a scale of Hunter to Being Useful, where does the swashbuckler Picaroon archetype fall?
>>51435042
There happens to be at least one app rather explicitly being there to relieve the stress in the hearts of her fellow crusaders
>>51435047
Why is this show a meme?
>>51435085
Doesn't take much. Maybe add a picture or two, some little personal details about who the character is (likes and dislikes, favorite food, maybekinksif it's that kind of game), and a good strong paragraph or two about their background.
>>51435076
Which one is yours? I will give you feedback.
>>51435081
It's not explicitly wanted, but it's kind of suggested when you make a holy, righteous defender of the people valiantly going forth against the demon hordes.
It's like making a chesty lady knight in a Giantslayer campaign, the implication is kind of there.
>>51435076
Critique Anon also wasn't interested in any games other than RotJR.
>>51435003
Why would they know anything about you? It's really easy to destroy and reform one's identity to the point that when viewed they can't connect the old and new.
>>51435105
Because the guy singing that song got cancer. The meme was forced to raise awareness of his gofundme, and took off from there because it's a fairly catchy tune that meshes well with other songs.
Like so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXZnLPAQScQ
>>51435105
>there to relieve the stress in the hearts of her fellow crusaders
R-Really?Does she need a buddy?
>>51435107
>and a good strong paragraph or two about their background.
>implying I'm capable of this
>>51435070I've thought about making a character like that. I just wish there was a way to intentionally get targeted by calling spells as a native outside to really complete the experience, you know?
>>51435076
Frankly, you just need to be an attention whore and say who your character is and we'll critique you. We won't go out of our way to critique unless it's terribad or the person's being memed on already (e.g. 45 Diplomacy bonus or something)
Just whore your character out. Show you're desperate and willing to get better by asking.
>>51435108The TwinsI'm hand wringing because the backstory basically started as a spurious idea born of frustration with lack of setting information, and then I stuck with it because he called me a snowflake.
Time for more psycho analysis! Let's talk about DHB. Not only his characters but his homebrew. What does it say about him?
>>51435117
>Critique anon stopped doing his thing right before he got to your app
>you never got to see anyone actually thoroughly dissect your app
>you're still not sure what the good or bad parts of it areeven after getting in
feels bad man
>>51435131
Like, 75% of the Meme Team got in *because* they were character whores.
>>51435109
But that's boring, senpai. Making a character who's fun and interesting and has a strong hook or a unique build, that's what gets GM attention--if we all figured we'd be playing an Asanagi doujin, we wouldn't bother using anything more than the core rulebook.
>>51435094
Pretty low. It gives a bunch of gun-focused stuff, but little to mitigate the many ways that default guns are worse than any other weapon type.
>>51435138
Ok, that's a good start. Now to make things easier on us, which game are you talking about, and link us your app, and please?
>>51435141
he never got many (You)s for his homebrew content posts before the ROTJR character fiasco. i always felt bad for him. but i guess there's no bad publicity?
>>51435123
Fascinating.
>>51435171
He still doesn't get much for his homebrew. He has a good head for design, better than Paizo devs at least.
>>51435138
>he called me a snowflake
Well he did so rightly, but at least you're tied with that other tiefling now for snowflake status.
>>51435160
No no no, you misunderstand me.
What I'm saying is that it's gosh darn *easy* to make a fascinating build or strong hook, but when you pair it up with a lovely young woman going out against debased demons in an explicit smut campaign it kind of implies you're not going to be looking for a bit of the cute n' lewd cuddles with the hunk ranger.
>>51435141
I think he likes dicks.
>>51435171
That's if you're doing this shit for cash.
>>51435192
>make a fascinating build or strong hook
Maybe for you.
>>51435169
Oh, sorry, Pirates
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4541370/characters-for-the-crew/?pageforid=4548153#post-4548153
And if you can teach me how to make roll20 put two images on the same line, that'd be nice.
>>51435093
>putting the levels of the BBEG in text for the opening scrawl
That's to clarify she's not a fighter 17 like Planes of Power says, maybe?
>>51435212
Resize the images so that they'll fit together.
>>51435200
It's easy for me because I only apply to campaigns which give me the spark of an interesting build or hook!
>>51435220
I do too but no one finds what I find interesting, interesting and I tend to dislike what a lot of /pfg/ finds interesting.
>>51435212
Just insert one after another. Make sure the text cursor is still next to the first image. You mean like this right? https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4509621/applications/?pageforid=4538777#post-4538777
Fuck it, while we're talking critiques, I suppose I'll throw my dude out there and see if there's any suggestions for him.http://pastebin.com/Kb7DmA5m
>>51435194
Why do you think he likes dicks?
>>51435138So from what I am seeing it looks alright, being a mcguffin feels a little odd to me, I don't know how avowed works at all, but if you are some how two characters that is also a little annoying, the game is six players and text based so an extra character will slow things down greatly in my opinion.And the twins really feel and look like two sides of the same coin, they seem too similar except in bullet pointed ways.
>>51435233
>https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4509621/applications/?pageforid=4538777#post-4538777
Yes, like that. Let me try againAnd hopefully someone will have something to say other than "you fucking snowflake"
>>51435239
He's on 4chan.
>>51435239Projecting
>>51435218
Does it say she keeps a giant pile of mindbroken adventurers in the book? No?
If you're going to have lots of different things while drawing from a book, make a whole topic about it. Unless you're going to go only into detail about some things and not mention all the other stuff you changed.
>>51435262
Given paizo's track record that is a solid "maybe". I don't have the book on hand.
>>51435262
I don't see the problem myself.
>>51435262
The book doesn't go into much detail on her in the first place.
>>51434694
>>51434819
I'm not sure yet, actually. Probably some mix ofa domineering attiude towardsshort lithe guys,kind of a power-bottom thing withtall and muscular and maybe monstrous guys, andmildly envious and lightly sexual fascination withsoft delicate women.
>>51434896
I'd be more interested in something likea knock-down drag-out one-on-one brawl turning into increasingly flirtatious hand-to-hand and grappling turning into one party or the other getting pinned and fucked in an at least semi-consensual sort of way.And the rest of the party uses the distraction to tiptoe past and accomplish their original goal now that the bad guy is otherwise occupied.
>>51435242
The Betrothed Avowed is like a summoner with an eidolon, except fully sapient like a cohort. It's not like I'm building a full caster or something, at the end of the day I just full attack. I don't think I'll be particularly slow at combat, especially since they act on the same initiative.
I intentionally made them similar for the purpose of simplifying RP, so I can have them function as essentially one unit. I for one think "Lol the twins who look so similar are actually polar opposites!" is a more tired trope.
>>51435305
Sounds good.
Now you'll have to excuse me while I go change my pants.
>>51435249
Seems a little fetishy, pls do not fug the eidolon
>>51435354
>not fugging the eidolon
That's silly.
>>51435305
>mfw 5'3
>mfw my 6'2 Kellid teases her about her height
>>51435354
But incest is forbidden love! And its between girls! Double forbidden!
>>51435365
Yes, please.
>>51435327They do not need to be polar opposites but the same person with bullet point differences is just silly in my frank opinion, it would be better to make them one person instead, or make them each unique and their own person, not polar opposites but both characters with their own goals, and ideals.
>>51435423
"One person with two bodies" would be an interest shtick itself.
>>51435365
Better yet,make him a bit on the older side and call her a short lil hellcat, tease the heck out of her height *and* age.
>>51435327
> summoner with an eidolon, except fully sapient
An eiodolan is already fully sapient.
>>51435212
You got backstory and personality, not seeing any personal desires or goals. Something more solid than "gamble and get rich" might be good, though revenge is fine too.
What are their feelings towards: each other? Captain Slim? The monastary? The mages who kidnapped them? The law as a whole and society?
First paragraph is weak in that it's a whole paragraph dedicated to people other than your characters. I suggest summarising, though having a lead up to "this is the situation the characters were born in" is ok.
The jump to Captain Slim is a bit jarring. Why would the good captain take them on, and why offer them a job? Why would they take up with the captain instead of returning to the monastery? These points are said implicitly, not explicitly.
The twins are a bit too passive in that lots of things are done TO them and not much done BY them. They don't make decisions, things happen and they just go with whatever happens next. I'd personally jazz it up a bit and say they ran away from the monastary and THAT is why the bad mages caught them. Of course now I've said it you might want to think of something else.
Trigger Twins is a good meme name but I'm drawing a blank on their personalities apart from "like to be a bit naughty and gamble a bit but not too much". Needs to have a stronger meme power or gimmick to really pull attention.
OK, hope that helps! Accept above advice with a pinch of salt and look at other apps, see what other sections others put in or left out.
>>51435305>Kind of a power bottom thing
What do you mean, "kind of?"
>>51435451
I agree I may use this idea at some point in the future.
>>51435423
Well, the easiest shift to accomplish this would probably be denoting one of them as the quick decision maker, who's mistakes have to be cleaned up by the other.
>>51435480
Good things to think on here.
Couple things though. First, they weren't kidnapped, their parents were among the wizards which brings me to the thought that they're probably trying to track them down and get some closure on why their own parents would be such pieces of shit.
Second, I have a bit of concern about length bloat, so I was looking for a simple transition to Slim. How much wiggle room before text wall do you think I have?
Third, they got captured because they were out working a job, though I guess I can try and point out an independence angle for that.
Fourth, what's the general thought on "Giving the character something they're actively trying to do" vs "Giving the character enough connections that the DM can give them something to do"? With how little knowledge of what the DM actually intends, writing in a personal quest seemed sketchy.
I'll be pondering this.
>>51435456I was thinking about having her be a little younger than she is, too.
>>51435615
So what we're looking at is an older, tall guy with muscles and a sly mouth ready to tease her about everything from her height to age!Anything else I could add to this character that would push her buttons in all the right ways?
>>51435641
Maybe make him a native Kellid?
The only thing better than a tall older guy teasing a short tough girl is a tall, older Not!Scottish guy teasing a short tough girl about her height, age, attitude (she's an aristocrat, which means she's got them fancy southern mannerisms) and accent!He better ask if he needs to call her "ma'am" or "my lady" when he learns about her nobility.
>>51435641
What is it with /pfg/ and assuming everyone has a daddy fetish?
>>51434203
Ah shit, what's wrong with 'em?my app is in there, and I know it's basic but I didn't think it was shit
>>51435702
Probably for the same reason I'm always tempted to ask about Transmutation optimization.
In short, they're most likely projecting.
>>51435740
I still stand by that most of the apps cept maybe brothel girl are all right.
>>51435740
I think most of them are fine but the ones that are bad are really bad.... like the genie. And so many of them have no info except for a picture you can't really rate them making the bad one(s) stand out even more.
>>51435698
I was thinking that her red hair and pale skin, as contrasting the usual Taldan ethnic Greek kind of look, could come from Kellid ancestry, though I'm not 100% sure on if that matches up to the right ethnic group(s). But there'd definitely be some 'not a real Taldan' insecurity in there mixed with a weird combination of noble and soldierly manner.Remember, Cha 8, so she's kind of awkward.
>>51435641
Going from teasing to treating her like a princess and back again, including trying to get her to dress up in fancy things.
>>51435612
>risk of text wall
Kill first paragraph and incorporate into second.
"In the world the Trigger Twins were born into, they were seen more useful as sacrifices than children. With the planar spark in both of them, their fate was to be sacrificed by the leader of a cult, intent on immortality. This was not to be, however, when they were rescued by badass Paladins."
>With how little knowledge of what the DM actually intends, writing in a personal quest seemed sketchy.
Doesn't need to be a quest, you can put in a longer overarching goal or even an interest in their heritage or the sky or SOMETHING that gives them a drive. That's my take on it.
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>>51435813
>Redhead, pale skin, Taldan insecure about her heritage... And very spunky
Ooh, what if she's half Taldan, half Ulfen? The Ulfen are big and pale and often found in Taldor as mercenaries!
>>51435846
Seriously, jackass?
>>51435858
That's an option! The main thing is that her family are immigrants if you go back a couple of generations.
>>51435883
It is a better thread.
>>51435905
Ooh, so Ulfen is totally an option!
Regardless, here's some art I've got laying around that miiiiight work for a toughsemi-awkwardredhead from Taldor!
>>51435698
Any apps currently in evidence, male or female, that you see her having good chemistry with?
>>51435947
Neat, thanks!
>>51434183
Two out of the Three. Plus Sleeping Goddess.
>>51436045
Which ones are you?
>>51436052
Well then I wouldn't be anonymous.
>>51436175
I mean it's either Celestial or Spider, so yeah.
>>51435702
But what if I do have one?
>>51436272
The latter.
>>51436449
Ah. Any idea of which one you'll settle on in Sleeping, or just going to finish both and let the GM pick?
>>51436544
I'm gonna finish both and allow the GM to pick. I've been meaning to work on it more but I've been caught up designing something of my own.