/5eg/ D&D Fifth Edition General: Social PC Edition

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Scholars. But not scholars that are too busy and get pissed when you try and talk to them. Laid back ones, that'll have tea with you while you shoot the shit on science/philosophy/religion/magic.

Any resources homebrew or official if I want to do a monster campaign?

>>51398089
Volo's has some not very impressive stats for playing as most of the go to humanoid monsters.

>>51398089
Volo's guide to Monsters has some monster races for creating PCs.

What are some of the best Druid spells upto 6th level, I've picked Land Druid and realising it's so much weaker than moon I'm looking to squeeze a bit of extra value and want to make sure I've not overlooked some golden value spells or ones with good usage.

>>51398276
Heat Metal is great for fucking over anything wearing metal armour. If you want your gm to tell you to fuck off you can ask about casting Polymorph to turn into a half-dragon giant ape.

Beyond flavour text, how can I go about differentiating 53 deities with 5e's handful of domains? Is there still any reason for deities to have favoured weapons? Have there been any domains introduced in UA's that I may have missed?

Listen up. https://discord.gg/ewSen23 This is the new official discord of 5eg. The other one is run by a pussy who lets cancer fester and didn't even have any discussion of D&D. :^)

>>51398352
Don't really see any non-flavour way of differentiating that many gods. Why do you have so many? For the weapons, again only really a flavour thing.

>>51398410
The butthurt is fucking real

Want to put players through a series of tests to win MacGuffin. 6 tests, one each on STR, CON, DEX, INT, WIS & CHA. Got the basic ideas for the first 3, and CHA. What are some good tests of INT and WIS? Preferably that can be confined to a room.

>>51398352
>differentiating 53 deities
How do you differentiate them right now?

WHEN'S THRI-KREEN?

>>51398425
Riddles seem like the obvious choice for Wisdom. How to go about that depends on whether your group likes actually solving riddles themselves or not.

>>51398424
No, the better discord is fucking real. And you probably shouldn't be a part of it anyways.

>>51398337
Crawford and Mearls have both stated that as a template, Half-Dragon creatures do not have existing statblocks, and as such are not an option that's in the players' hands.

>>51398352
>53 deities
Jesus, I thought my 21 was hard to manage, and 2 of those are dead with 6 of them using homebrew domains, and 2 of them using a UA domain.

>>51398410
>"official" /5eg/ discord
Doesn't matter who is running it, it's faggotry all the same, and doesn't belong in the OP.

>>51398506
Fair enough, was intended as a tongue in cheek reply anyway.

>>51398539
Fair enough, anon. Just tired of seeing half-dragon cheese paraded around as a legitimate answer when it's just as autistic as Bardic Horsecasting. And trust me, I know autism when I see it.

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>>51398089

Check out We Be Goblins! I gave it a look over for ideas of a similar monster campaign I want to run. Its PF, but it'd be easy to convert it for 5e.

>>51398504
You're just throwing a tantrum because you weren't in charge and I am enjoying every minute of your sad meltdown

>>51398646
this is a good idea desu, dont be scared to use supplements from other games/editions, its easy to just use the story structure and change up the encounters to fit 5e

>>51398410
Oh yeah, your 15 person discord is really official, all right

>>51398685
15 people who actually play D&D 5e is better than 400 furry porn posting anime fags any day

>>51398717
The creator of the new Discord loves furry porn, though.

/tg/, some friends and I decided to start up a game of this.

So far we've got a Rogue, a Druid, and a Fighter. Two more slots left. What do we need?

>>51398798
Ranged blaster or something.

>>51398798
A charisma based class and a wizard.

>>51398717
As if Jeb isn't the biggest furry porn poster out there

>>51398352
>53 deities

Even the polytheists think you've gone too far, m8.

>>51398576
With the disclaimer that I don't advocate anyone should ever claim polymorphing into half-dragons works, I can't actually find any tweets by either of them on the subject.

>>51398798
Fun characters.

That being said, somebody with decent charisma and a bow would cover the rest of your bases in one fine package.

>>51398798
Cleric and Wizard

>>51398798
WIZARD

>>51398798
Anything.

>>51398798

Get a paladin for Charisma and a Wizard, because the fucking game runs around wizards unfortunately.

>>51398425
Assuming the STR, DEX and CON ones involve making skill checks, make some sort of riddle that involves one of the INT skill checks to be able solve. Something easy, but a character has to recall the correct lore/god/nature or investigate to find all of the puzzle pieces.

>>51398907

For all the people screaming wizard...
Will a Sorcerer work instead?

>>51398853
>That being said, somebody with decent charisma and a bow would cover the rest of your bases in one fine package.
So, like a Bard Bowman?

How do you justify multiclassing personally, either as a DM or player?
I mean there should be an organic story reason sure but the DM's going to say right-o.

>>51398968
No, you need someone to do INT checks for you, and wizard is the only real INT character

>>51398968
Don't start this discussion. Please for the love of god.

>>51398968
No. Wizards can replace sorcerers. Sorcerers cannot replace wizards.

>>51398978
It's too late.

>>51398976
This is why though. And ritual casting.

>>51398976
Not if he's a fucking Int 8 retard.

>>51398968
No, get a wizard

>>51398968
Ignore everything you read in these threads. Sorcerer's are fun characters that aren't that bad.

A wizard isn't needed to win at a game of imagination.

>>51398968
Yes

The Meta is a myth, party comp is very malleable, wizards are not necessary

>>51398975
Training by degrees, practicing things. Like your bard has been sitting there with a set of thieves' tools trying to pick his first set of tumbler locks or trying to disarm a simple wire trap without setting it off.

Sprinkle in the little bit of flavor and you'll have a perfect justification for multi-classing.

>>51398968
Make a warlock, bitch

>>51398969
Yeah, that'd work just fine.

People can screeee about Wizards being best (and they're not wrong) buuut
They're not necessary

It's hard to fuck up in 5th edition. And beyond that, a decent DM should be able to handle a party that covers all abilities.

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Am I that guy, /tg/? Here's the story
>In some caverns close to the surface, bordering on the underdark
>Our group, Me, the warlock, fiend pact of the tome, A dwarf fighter, subclassed as gunslinger, a halfling monk, Way of the Four Elements, and a half-elf werewelf barbarian, subclassed as Path of the berserker.
>Some backstory, earlier in the campaign our Werewelf (Werewolf elf) acquired a headband that had the ghost of an elf trapped in it. He could use psychic powers and also give her an enhanced form for battle. Over the course of the campaign they spoke to each other a lot and became friends.
>Having travelled a day nonstop through a direwolf infested forest to get to the entrance (two days for the Barbarian, who had stayed up all night the day before) when we got to the Underdark we were all exhausted.
>We then fought our way through several caverns full of spiders and killed some drow scouts.
>During this time our Barbarian stepped directly off of a cliff because she couldn't see in the darkness, falling roughly 100 feet and taking all but 3 of her hp in damage
>After following her down with a climbing kit we eventually got to a ledge that lead down to a shore next to a river.
>I used misty step to get down because fuck climbing desu.
>Barbarian fell down after fumbling an athletics roll, landed face first in bat guano.
>Halfling acrobaticed his way down the ledge
>Dorf manmoded that shit and leaped all the way for the river that was ahead of us.
>Succeeded, landed in, immediately was wracked with psychic power, trying to convince him there was a god in the river, succeeds on his wisdom save though, so he's all peachy.
>Pulls himself out, tells us about the psychic power.
>I check by dipping a finger into the river
>Yep he's right
>Pass my check, decide to see if I need to make a test every time, dip my finger in again
>Nope, it's fine.
>Pull finger out.
>Finger is gone.
>Something with many teeth took it.
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Here's the plan I think

Hit level 6 as a Lore Bard, take fireball/lightning bolt for blowing shit up

Then multi-class into fighter until at least level 5 as a battle master gaining Breastplate + Defense to up my AC, and gain Parry, Riposte, and Lunging Attack. That way I also have extra attack as well

is that going to be about the best way to get a more all-round bard?

Or should I have just started as a valor bard? Wouldn't get those maneuvers though

>>51399085
no one is saying wizard are best, just that the party EXTREMELY lacks intelligence based characters and a wizard would cover that niche nicely.

>>51398423
>>51398516
Forgotten Realms 5e (a la SCAG) has 99 gods, for what it's worth. Question doesn't quite scan still but that criticism of it isn't too effective

>>51398968

Yeah you can pick up a sorcerer. There isn't anything wrong with it. Technically you can do whatever you want. You can run a party of all rouges, or a party without a single martial, or a party of paladins or clerics. You can play whatever you want, you don't have to lock yourself into certain formulas.

But, and this is the but, if you do then it isn't optimal. You asked what you should get, and this lead me to believe you were looking for optimal party make up. In an optimal party yes, you do want a wizard, because it is mechanically superior and it covers int. You can do whatever you want, but there are some things that are better than others. You could have a different character with a high dex and the right skills do the job of a rogue. Have them sneak and disarm traps and what not, and they could do it. I've seen some amazing things done with a high dex barb who made good use of his danger sense in dungeons when the party had no rogue, but even so a rogue could do it better and that's just the way it is.

So some people will scream that you need a wizard, and if you wanted to be absolutly optimal yes you should grab one, but the game is about having fun, not picking the best possible thing. So take a sorcerer, and have fun.

>>51398968
Yes. The board is scum. The even better answer is that it doesn't fucking matter what you play at all, it will be fine in 5e. Play what you find fun.

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>>51399113
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>After several minutes of bleeding, jumping around and screaming profanities, fingerstump is bandaged up.
>Resolve to get finger back.
>Ask psychic headband for help in identifying the creature that took it, he's several centuries old, surely he would know.
>He didn't see it and there's a haze over the river.
>He reaches out with his mind, finds the creature and-
>Is immediately consumed by his love for his new god.
>Well fuck.
>Tells us only that we have no hope of beating the creature, and that we should all go into the water. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyw0xeOwVd0
>Fuck that
>As if to punctuate his point, a tentacle reaches out of the water and slaps the dwarf in the face.
>It only looked like a light pat
>Sends the dwarf flying towards the cliff, he crunches into the stone, then peels out, leaving a distinct dwarf shaped imprint in it
>We run, parallel to the river, but we still run, hoping to run faster than it can swim.
>All the while our barbarian's headband is alternating between screaming blasphemous obscenities at us and pleading for us to step into the water
>After peeling off from the river, we find a stone tablet.
>In dwarven, on the tablet, the words "Illithid" and "Drow" are printed, with direction arrows.
>Illithid
>I roll to see if I know what those are.
>Indeed I do.
>Absolutely fucking not.
>Turn and sprint the other way, back towards the tentacle beast we have affectionately named Mr. Teeth
>The rest of the group follow, trusting my instinct and fearing what could drive me to run back towards Mr. Teeth
>In truth I just didn't want to deal with more tentacley bullshit.
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Reminder that optimal party comps are cancer.

>>51399251
You dont make a well rounded party to be "optimal" (well some people do, but theyre cancer)

you do it so ensure everyone is good at different stuff, which gives different people the spotlight and ensures they dont step on each other's toes.

Warlock/Fighter or Warlock Paladin? I keep seeing people say Bladelock with Fighter is better, but by going Bladelock with Paladin your Smite because reusable after a short rest and you're constantly doing it at the highest damage. Paladin seems like the much better choice.

>>51399286
you go 1 fighter / x bladelock so that you only have to spend ONE non-warlock level, getting you to thirsting blade and blooddrinker faster

pally-lock is a legit build though, and theres a lot of ways to build it, you can go 2 pally > 3 lock > rest pally, or you can go 2 pally > X lock

MAKE 5EG GREAT AGAIN.
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Come on, I'm shilling my server. You fucks love this shit. D&D and maybe some Shadowrun talk because it's like worse pathfinder. I'll post pictures of my dog, we've got great mods, the best mods. YUGELY.

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>>51398006
So I'm aware of the Moon Druid's power spikes at early levels, but I've heard that they fall off very quickly

Seeing as I've no experience with Druids at my table I can't really contribute too much on the matter, but is there a way to keep Moon Druid viable at higher levels or are they fine as is?

>>51399353
>trumpfag discord
no thanks bruv
i prefer presidents who don't threaten martial law and the abolishment of the first amendment

>>51399353
Fuck off. You just sound pathetic.

>>51399276
Well Rounded =/= Optimal.

A sorcerer is a fine replacement for a wizard in a well rounded party, but terrible for an Optimal one.

Optimal parties are cancer

>>51399319
But it's always take either Paladin or Fighter first?

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>>51399319
Honestly, why not go to 5 Paladin? You get good stuff at level 5 Paladin.
>Extra Attack (important)
>2nd Level Paladin slots
>Oath Spells

>>51399248
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>Having chosen to take our chances with Mr. Teeth, at this point another day has passed in game, as such we are all on two points of exhaustion, aside from our Barbarian, who is on three.
>Distinctly slower this time, and much more tensely, watching the water the whole time, we edge our way back to the safety of the ledge, where we have resolved to take a long rest no matter what, or we'll die down here anyway.
>Mr. Teeth decided not to show up this time.
>We found the ledge, I, having one spell slot left, use it to misty step back up the ledge.
>Elation on our faces, we first convince the Barbarian to use the last of her strength to climb.
>After she is hauled over the ledge into the cubbyhole, Mr. Teeth decides now is the time to show up.
>Slams a tentacle directly down on top of the Halfling
>This one looked quite vicious, I can only imagine how it felt.
>Halfling knocked unconscious, on death saves.
>Dwarf facing tentacle and with a half-dead halfling at his feet, knowing neither of us at the top of the ledge could possibly come down to help then get back up again without dying, throws the halfling at me
>Doesn't throw hard enough
>Halfling's face crunches into the ledge, then his body drops on top of a spiky rock, takes two immediate death saving throw failures.
>I cast my Eldritch blasts, empowered by my eldritch invocations, I hit all three, and blast the creature back 30 feet.
>Dwarf tries one last time to throw the halfling, succeeds this time
>I catch the Halfling, our Barbarian had a healer's kit ready, and stabilised the Halfling.
>Dorf uses his titanic effort to heave himself up the rockface, having gotten an athletics check roll of 19+7 in mods, literally gouging handfuls of the stone out as he went.
>Mr. Teeth retreats underwater, denied his prey.
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>>51399353
Stop trying to make "fetch" happen, Jeb

>>51399376
>>51399370
Hah, be that way losers. This 5eg discord is the best 5eg discord. I have studies to prove it! We've already gotten 20 people, and we're just getting started! I'm signing executive orders to make D&D great again.

>>51399450
>20 people
Fucking stop the presses, everybody watch out! This discord has some serious power!

>>51399450
That's some real alternative facts there, shitstain.

new link for second discord?

>>51399450
Delete all links to Discord off of the op. We don't want your shitshows.

>>51399473
>>51399524
Look, you guys don't get it. I get it. That's all that matters. So join the discord if you love talking about dungeons and dragons.

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>>51399424
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>We all eat our rations quickly for dinner, then three of us settle in for a long rest, the barbarian falls asleep first, then the Halfling. As i'm getting to sleep while the dwarf takes first watch, his musket kept locked firmly on the river, his ears open for any noise, we suddenly both hear the headband speak.
>It's speaking only to us, because the barbarian and the halfling are firmly asleep.
>It tells us of the doom his master brings.
>It tells us of how we are trapped in the cubbyhole now, the creatures in the darkness all around watching us sleep.
>It tells us of how we'll die down here and nobody on the surface will remember us.
>It asks us politely to go into the water
>We refuse
>He begins to scream.
>He does not stop.
>The scream has started to cause our ears to bleed.
>Carefully, quietly, I take the headband out of our Barbarian's backpack, and throw it out of the cubbyhole, onto the shore below.
>The screaming stops, we relax
>All of a sudden, from the water, Mr. Teeth surfaces, and drags himself onto the shore
>Inky black, purple skin, melted like loose flesh floating in water, suddenly deprived of the floating element.
>Thousands upon thousands of teeth, arrayed in rows.
>No eyes, only a vast maw, and two slits for a nose
>It hauls itself on two tree trunk sized arms out of the water, it's tentacles trailing behind it.
>It snuffles the air around itself
>Me and the dwarf realising that now that the creature is out of the water, we will die if It notices us.
>We make our peace and stare death in the face, poised to strike in the face of the abberation, even if it is a vain effort.
>Suddenly the creature drops low, like a dog sniffing the ground, and snuffles a bit more.
>He stops when he finds the headband.
>He opens his maw impossibly wide, and devours the headband, the sand it was sitting on, the rock underneath the sand, and a sizeable portion of the foundation of the rockwall we were sitting in.
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>>51399557
How about you talk about D&D in this thread like a non-retard.

>>51399576
Hey, who's your friend? We've got Marisa, Cowjuice, Lorez, Plutia, Jondon. He's underage and we have them, you losers can't have him! We're probably the best 5eg there is.

>>51399394
yeah for the save and armor profs

>>51399672
this guys definitely pretending to be retarded to keep people off the new 5eg

>>51399728
Hahaha! You can think that, but we've gained four people from this alone. How's it feel to be wrong and a loser?

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>>51399558
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>As he swallows, a psychic scream goes up, the agonising swansong of the ghost trapped in the headband.
>It wakes up our party members
>They stare horrified at the creature, as it itself lets out a wretched scream.
>Then it suddenly dissappears, darting under the water with a speed much greater than it displayed before.
>Having gone, our barbarian notices the absence of what had been a constant comforting presence for the last few months.
>We tell her what happened.
>She buries an axe in my chest.
>I cast Flesh to Stone.
>As our halfling and dwarf restrain her, I get pretty pissed myself, and continue to cast the spell.
>She fails, exhausted as she still is, and is turned into stone.
>I pull the axe out of my chest, and bandage my wounds.
>The halfling and the dwarf bed down for a long rest, while I take watch.
>I look into her stone eyes, and contemplate our situation.
>We are exhausted, half dead, sleeping next to an eldritch abomination, who is now amped up by eating the ghost of a centuries old elf psion, while our barbarian is a statue.
>Morning comes. We continue to sleep in the cubbyhole. It seems none of the creatures of the underdark threaten us as long as Mr. Teeth is nearby.
>Wonder what the fuck to do.
We found out afterwards that Mr. Teeth was a challenge rating 12
Is there any way that could've gone differently? Could we have fought it? How do you remove permanent petrification from someone?

>>51399558
Fucking MOAR.

>>51399713
Only problem with that is that you won't be able to get War Caster until fourth level at which point wouldn't you rather have the ASI?

What's an expression similar to "the clock is ticking", but using an hourglass as the metaphor? English is not my native language, so I'm stumped here.

>>51399785
Sands of time are running out.

>>51399743
What was Mr Teeth?
Was your DM going for a horror game?
The way you described your game sounds alternately frustrating but awesome.

>>51399802
He still hasn't told us what Mr. Teeth is, as we haven't yet successfully identified him, asked someone who would know, or gotten away.
He was not going for a horror game, though it was certainly tense, and I feel my storytelling abilities may have contributed it.
And it's pretty awesome, though It feels like the part of the movie where the hero is at his lowest point, except there's three of us and our usual moral compass is now a statue.

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So I've seen several posters mention a Fighter Subclass I'm not finding anywhere in the 5eg Treasure Trove. What is the gunslinger subclass?

>>51399851
It's a homebrew by Matthew Mercer

>>51399851
Homebrewed subclass for Fighter. Here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/82o72v47ddc8lzz/Gunslinger%205E.docx?dl=0

>>51399843
odd, was meant for
>>51399802
>>51399816

>>51399743
>How do you remove permanent petrification from someone?
Greater Restoration.

>>51398894

This.

>>51399930
Well. We have a Monk, a Dorf with guns, and a Warlock, and we're trapped in the underdark. How would one come by greater restoration, in these circumstances.

>>51399795
When the priest comes to read me the last rights,

>>51399952

You don't.

>>51399952
Petrification at low levels is "you died". You have neither the means nor money to cart the guy to someone who can fix him, nor can you cast the spell.

>>51399972
Cool. Would It be a dick move to leave the Barbarian behind in these circumstances, and try and come back for her later?

>>51399983
Oh dear. That does put a further damper on things.

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>>51399867
>>51399874
Thanks mates.

>>51400068
No problem. Your superior taste in waifu was deserving of an answer.

>>51399993

How securely can you hide/stash? Cause I'll be honest, that barb is gone. Dead. She ain't comming back without some serious dm fiat. I mean theoretically you could come back and save them, but it's pretty impractical. First it assumes you'd be able to leave and come back long from now and they'd still be there safe and sound. Then you need the resourced or the skills for a greater restoration. That shit ain't cheap or simple. And even if you do manage all that the level gap between you and the barb, and the amount of time that would have passed ooc just makes it kinda silly. The barb is dead. You killed them. The player should roll a new character, or convince the dm to fiat something.

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How'd you guys like a setting based completely off Yu Gi Oh cards?

>>51398827
Naw m8
Incredibly specialized and specific gods but lower powered. Less than or equal to demon lords

>>51399131
Any feedback? Am I just crazy?

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>>51400090
Well now I just feel bad. Suppose i'll post the group picture. My warlock furthest left, the three on the right are recurring characters currently on the surface, the barb is the third from the left.

>>51400116

Depends on which cards you use. What time frame and set? The answer is most likely no.

>>51400116
is that pikmin the pot of greed?

>>51399816
Spoilering because I wouldn't to deprive the other anon of his surprise, but from what they told us I'm pretty sure Mr Teeth was an aboleth.

>>51400116
Look man, Just because Lizardfolk are a playable race does not mean we want to play the Saga of Gigobyte and the Captain.

>>51400178
Thank you for blanking it, I hate to meta-game.

>>51396824
>>51397132
Thanks for the advice!

>>51377735
I would say blow up the prison but you made it on multiple planes so good luck figuring it out retard.

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Looking for feedback/advice on this. This is meant to be a Swordsage port of the class from 3.5 converted into an archetype for 5e.

https://discord.gg/vDFsRg2
Posting again to shill our now 30 member strong discord chat. Seriously, if you're not in it, you're retarded at this point. It's the only place to have meaningful discussions with other players and DMs. We're even going to add bots.

>>51400146

Don't feel bad. I think that all things considered your actions make sense. Some people might think you are that guy, but the barb chose to attack you, not the other way around. You did a good job and acted in character. It was a good dramatic moment. Just up sell the barb on the chance to make something new and cool to catch their fancy and move on. These things happen, it's part of the game.

>>51399743
Well, if you were able to cast a 6th level spell, you and your party are at least 11th level, which means Mr Teeth at CR 12 would be a medium encounter for you guys. However, you were all exhausted and I assume with few-to-none resources, which would make that fight much harder. Besides, your party is not really that balanced... I'm surprised you got to such a high level without a single character with healing abilities or spells.

In your other post you mentioned recurring characters on the surface... Are any of those a cleric or druid? If yes, they could bring your barbarian back.

>>51400277
Ah, true. I suppose that's life in the underdark. Her player always did have a thing for elves. Maybe I can sell her on a new drow character.

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>>51400264
>30 members
kek, no one is even talking in that shit

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>>51400149
Average medieval, so not many of the machine cards.
There's plenty of cult and locations like the darkworld, sanctuary in the sky, the archfiends, order of magicians, horus and his followers, flame kings, dark kings, water kings, ojama country for sharts and gargles.
That's the kind of thing I want to explore.

>>51400166
Those are the Ojamas. The Pot of Greed is unrelated, I think.

>>51400179
Fuck Gigobyte tho'

First time 5e player, thinking about going ranger (party so far is wizard, cleric, paladin, monk, and rogue). Any advice?

>>51400309
Nope. Our only healer is a bard, who is currently doing merc work on a boat for some smugglers. We were all level 11, but badly wounded, yes.

>>51400343
Get your DM to allow the revised ranger UA

>>51400343
Rain of Thorns or whatever it is when you get your Ranger spells. It's absurd in its kill potential.

>>51399843
The certainty of what these implacable enemies really are is indeed best kept at maximum secrecy.
Your writing is excellent, I enjoyed your storytelling.

That's good DMing and roleplaying as well, creating tension and playing on the terror and adrenaline of the moment. I take it the world you're all in is fucked up?

>>51400326
Add offline members too newfag to math. You're dumb as all hell if you can't do basic math.

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>Humans
>Aasimar
>Tieflings
>Yuan-ti
>Kobolds
>Goliaths
>Dwarves
>Orcs
>Elves
>Gnomes
>Goblins
>Kenku
>Tabaxi

Been working on a setting and trying to narrow down races-
Given this list, what would you cut?

>>51400371
Oh yeah, we're currently trying to help Lolth get her power back for the greater good, her priestess went rogue and has been ignoring her, so we're assassinating her and installing a new priestess in her place. And we're the good guys. Shit's all fucked up.

>>51400412
What kind of setting are you going for?

>>51400412
>Given this list, what would you cut?
Aasimar, tiefling, Orc, Elf, gnome and tabaxi

>>51400412
Tabaxi, Aasimar, Tieflings.
Kenku are a non-cancerous furry race, and there should only be one. Angel and Demon races are just begging for mary sues.

>>51400178
It could definitely be that, it could be a n intelligent shoggoth

>>51400264
You guys literally threw a shitfit because some guy was pretending to be a girl and got yourselves banned due to your unrelenting autism.

>>51400326
>boxer
>a fucking moderator

YOU CANT EVEN MAKE THIS SHIT UP

>>51400345
If your bard wasn't 10th level yet, you might've been able to convince them to take Greater Restoration as one of the Magical Secrets. As it stands, unfortunately, it's really unlikely you will bring the barb back, unless the DM throws something your way. A suggestion, next time try to use Hold Person instead of Flesh to Stone. More reliable too, since I'm sure their Con save is much higher than Wis.

>>51400200
I got you, senpai.

>>51400505
Pretty sure two of them were trying to actively fuck that "girl" by the way it's split off into an entire discord

>>51400356
DMs allowing all UA stuff, so thankfully thats covered.

>>51400327

Eh, give us some samples of what you have planned.

What's with all the Discord screeching, you're all worse than air-raid sirens.

>>51400447
Currently an open book. The only thing I was toying with was a human empire with a constant power struggle.

Something like children of the now dead emperor all vied for the throne and achieved immortality in various ways, so Tieflings, Aasimar, and Yuan-ti are all 'humans' that have that lineage, while your average Humanfolk are non-royal blood.

Not set on it, though. Thus why I'm throwing the entire list up in the wind.

>>51400575
a circle jerk turned sour. with the circle jackoffs out of the original discord its fine again

>>51400519
I actually had a scroll of hold person in my bag. Didn't use it though, for one I was actually quite pissed at the barbarian for attacking me, even though I knew it was in character, so I wanted to do something dramatic, which was in character for myself. And two, I didn't know petrification was as bad as I now realise it is.

>>51400473
>there should only be one furry race
>Not creating furry racial tension based on normal ecological interactions

I mean it's a fair opinion but my counterpoint is what if Tabaxi and Ratfolk existed in the same setting

Thoughts on DMs allowing all UAs?

>>51400554
I think the newest UA ranger archetypes are cool as shit so I'd highly recommend a teleport spam or tree ranger

>>51400624
I suppose that's your other option. To go for full furry races, create a story about the tensions between them, then try and pull it off in a serious manner.

Are there any good applications for Android?
Currently using critdice and fifth edition character sheet but I'm poor so I can't afford the premium so it's useless

>>51400575
We were wrongfully banned, and we're reconciling that with a New Better Discord. Just come on in and you'll see how much nicer it is.

>>51400629
I've been reading about them and they seem really cool, both in terms of flavor and abilities. I hope there's gonna be a bunch of planes stuff because horizon walker is what im looking at ATM.

>>51400674
Shut the fuck up Boxer all you ever do is shitpost about how nobody knows shit about 5e, and complain about Lyn's dick.

>>51400701
Don't forget that if you use Horizon Walker or Tree Ranger with the Revised Ranger UA, you get extra attack at 5th level as well

>>51400704
You guys are way way more upset about it than I ever was.

>>51400674
You fucking shitstains are as bad as pfg.

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>>51400560
Haven't planned a thing, my man. I'm asking around if people like the thematic before possibly wasting time into something that might suck.

>>51400624
>>51400644
I honestly feel like /tg/'s obsession with 'muh furry races' is unusual.

Do you guys really know that many furries?

What's the "best" Fighter Sorlock distribution? Fighter 2/Warlock 2/Sorcerer 16?

Fighter 2/Warlock 3/Sorcerer 15?

>>51400755

Me personally, if you stuck with the more thematic stuff I could dig it. I remember there being some decent stuff from back when I collected while I was living in korea.

>>51400775
Yes I was one. Not sure if I still am. After hanging out with the fandom, I can tell you for certain, their cancer is the most vocal part of their community, which is why I stopped

/tg/ how do you feel about this for hireling prices?

>>51400807
10/10

>>51400807
I'm a moran

Acolyte - 1 gp/day
Assassin - 27 gp/day (Additional fees may apply)
Bandit - 5 sp/day
Bandit Captain - 7 gp/day
Berserker - 7 gp/day
Druid - 7 gp/day
Gladiator - 17 gp/day
Guard - 1 gp/day
Knight - 10 gp/day
Mage - 20 gp/day
Priest - 7 gp/day
Scout - 2 gp/day
Spy - 3 gp/day
Thug - 2 gp/day
Veteran - 10 gp/day

>>51400779
Sounds about right, get the best of all three worlds.

Although this brings to mind that as much as /5eg/ complains about 'mary sue' ideas like half-angel or half-demon, we do seem happy to have 'Born With Magic, Made a Deal with Demigod and also a Trained Soldier' the character when it comes to theorycrafting.

>>51400838
Bump all the casters up by about 10/20 gold. Those fuckers are op.

>>51400845
Fortunately I thought ahead and crammed those abilities into backstory, using Undying Light to avoid having a Patron.

>>51400838
Druid feels like they wouldn't normally take a pouch of gold and go on an adventure. Also maybe spellcasters also take money for spell components.

The rest seems about right though. It is assuming a day of action and fighting right?

>>51400885
This is the standard daily wage for each NPC fighting or not. Maybe I should make a modifier/multiplier for extremely dangerous ventures.

>>51400966
If they're going against a dragon or something you could make that the base price plus equal share of the profit.

reminder that the new 5eg discord is actually fun

>>51400996
the other one is too.

>>51400804
You're probably like me and just enjoy the porn. I was pretty confused about it for a while too.

>>51401011
Cute. I mean *****ACTUAL***** fun.

>>51401011
>>51400996
>infighting
Can we just nip this in the bud, before it begins to dissolve the general?

>>51401064
>51401064 ▶
>>>51401011 (You)
yeah I'll stop. Sorry

>>51400845

Half x is not by definition a marry sue. A marry sue is a character who is the best ever at everything and has no flaws. That character who the player thinKS should just be the best ever always. Half x doesn't have to be that.

What half x is almost always is special snowflakes. The character who is different and unique and sticks out.

Now there can be significant overlap.arry sues are often special snowflakes, but not all special snowflakes are marry sues.

And it's just some players preferences. When it comes right down to it every adventurer is in some way a special snowflake, that's just kinda how it goes. It's just that different players and groups have different ideas on what is acceptably special.

Personally I don't mind tieflings as long as I trust the player, and they understand that doesn't just mean they get to be special and otherwise get treated like everyone else. They have to understand they are gonna get treated like shit by most npcs, and will likely be in danger a lot.

>>51401064
The general will never dissolve. Our 5eg discord will ensure it stays full of proper content.

>>51401064
tee bee haych senpai I didn't even know anyone used the discord until this autistic shit flinging contest started.

I don't see how it's going to "dissolve the general" if it's just 3 or so retards arguing.

>>51400779
What is the progression for something like this?
Start fighter, take warlock third and fifth?

Could I get some tips for role-playing a lizard folk?

Alright guys I have a question. Some friends of mine are running a dnd game. I haven't known these people long, but I like them and we get along pretty well. I haven't played in a few months since I moved, and I really wanna play dnd, but I was talking with one of them and the conversation raised a few concerns. First off it sounds like the dm runs a really really low lethality monty hall campaign, which I personally don't find all that fun, and apparently they have a pair of "those guys". What should I do guys? I wanna play, I've got a character concept and everything ready, but it sounds like the kind of game that may get on my nerves.

>>51401031
Nope. Never cared for the porn. It was literally just the escapism that came with a fursona. Probably the predecessor to my obsession with dungeons and dragons now. Though my leftover shame is so great I literally only play humans and dwarves.

>>51401169
I hear you. I also steer clear of any race with a tail.

>>51401156
Well, i'd firstly ask about those 'that guys' and what form it takes, whether it be sexual perversion, edge, or literally pc killing. Secondly, figure out how your character can deal with it. Thirdly, try and enjoy yourself. There will be different groups in the future, but if this is your only option right now, you might as well choose limited fun over none.

>>51401146

So the way i see it is that lizards function differently from us. Brains are different from us mammals. Way I figure it they don't really have the same emotional range as we do. Lust and reproduction they understand, but love is a foreign concept. They can get that cooperation can help get things done, but when it comes down to it they don't really care about others. What matters is numero uno. Don't expect self sacrifice or compassion from a lizard man. Anger and fear they get, satisfaction they get, but they don't really have the capacity for joy or amazement. They aren't stupid, but they are simple, if that makes sense. That's just my take on it. Go read about lizards if you want more ideas I guess, that's the best I can give you.

>>51400519
>If your bard wasn't 10th level yet, you might've been able to convince them to take Greater Restoration as one of the Magical Secrets.
Greater Restoration is actually a native Bard spell. Bards, Clerics, and Druids are the healers.

>>51401169
>>51401206

Meanwhile me and my furry friends are running a game where we're all playing out fursona. It's not as autistic and sexual as you'd think.

>>51401247
I can imagine. I've met some cool people in the fandom despite the abundance of cancerous retard mary sues, and the inclusion of animalistic traits to characters does make for unique roleplaying and abilities.

>>51400607
One compromise you might suggest to the barbarian's player and DM is they could play a new, secondary character for some time, while the party goes on a quest to remove the petrification. Finding a high level NPC who could cast greater restoration, or maybe basilisk's blood or whatever.

>>51401216

Well it's one who's edgy and highly contradictive. Doesn't wanna work with the party, doesn't wanna play ball. Assasin rogue pc, who just shanked an important npc while the group wasn't looking cause they could. Reason it came up is cause the guy I was talking with, who is a total bro, is kinda pissed about that.

Other one is a filthy power gamer who cheats and pushes the dm around. Insists on unbalanced homebrew shit they found in the internet, and in the words of my friend, is a douche.

I mean I'll probably go give it a go, I like at least a few of these people and I've met most of the others and they seemed alright in other social contexts, so it should be fine. I just don't wanna walk into a shitstorm.

>>51401287
I think we're probably gonna try and rescue the statue once I gain access to Demiplane. Then I can just put the statue in there and open it up again back on the surface.

>>51400607

Demand that a cleric of lolth be sent to heal your fallen friend or tell spider bitch the deal is off and she can deal with her own rebel priestess. Assuming you can contact and negotiate. I don't know how you came to be on this quest.

>>51401230
Huh, guess I can just be myself then

>>51401316
Well. the way to beat the former, is, presumably, to use reverse psychology. But subtly. When you can guarantee someone will do the opposite of what you're doing, you can make them do whatever you want.

The second problem is easily dealt with, just play a wizard. There has yet to be a problem in game that cannot be dealt with by a smart enough wizard.

>>51401362
That's actually a good idea. Downside is, the whole of Drow society believes in this priestess, so won't help us before we kill her. And after we kill her, we have no way to communicate with Lolth. Once we've instated a new priestess, then our job is already done, so we can't exactly call it off. Not much room for blackmail here, unfortunately.

>>51401368

Fair point. It's just thst a large part of it involves running off and leaving the group to do their own thing apparently. I can't reverse psychology what's not there. And

If it comes down to it, yes I'll break out my staff and robe and go full magus on the problem, but I kinda really wanted to play a paladin. I haven't played one in a while and it sounds like fun. I'm filled with the desire to make rousing speeches and smite evil.

>>51398352
How many are there published now, 9 domains? That's 9*8=72 domain pairs. Give each god two domains to rule over. Problem solved.

>>51401414
Well, if you're playing a paladin then there's your answer to the first problem.

As to the second then, you either minmax back or convince the DM to grow a spine and not allow such gross negligence of all that is fair in D&D

>>51401441
That rarely goes well. Edgelords may have no qualms about killing your pc but if you kill theirs they sabotage the rest of the campaign and sometimes future campaigns.

>>51400446
Help Lolth? Why in the glorious fuck?

Also more stories.

>>51401389

It's time to break out your thinking cap and get cunning. Be a magus, one of the wise. If you can't strong arm the drow how could you trick one? I mean its drow, maybe they believe and follow, but drow are always a huge hotbed of plots and intrigue. Yoy just need to find the right openings. A lesser priestess who can be convinced to help you for your aid in elevating her position over her superiors corpse or something. Give the barb a temporary drow character that can be your in and have them coordinate with the dm. Let them lord it over you for a bit so they get over bein mad about the petrification, enjoy some drow politics and higher level play than just kicking down the door and killing shit, and then get your barb back. I'm sure there is a way with a sufficientlly clever group plan and a supportive dm.

>>51401241
Oh shit, you're totally right.
>>51401321
Your bard CAN actually learn Greater Restoration. Though he can only change his list on a level up.

>>51401427
13 if you include the ones from UA

>>51401526

How close to level up are you? I still say play drow politics to get help, just cause that would be fun.

>>51401517
Well. We did have a plan that would completely deprive lolth of her power, but give us all her subjects. As a Warlock of Asmodeus, I was going to kill the priestess and ask Asmodeus to send a demon to possess the corpse. Then use that corpse to issue orders to the drow, depriving Lolth of her power, but taking the army, which was the whole reason we were helping Lolth.

Do you allow all UAs, DMs?

>>51401441

Yeah see thing is I could absolutely shut it down ic, but that'll piss them off ooc.

Dm is new apparently, and the cheating fuck is his brother in law. Admittedly that too is a red flag.

>>51401526
Bard is currently on a boat on the surface doing merc work for some smugglers, And i'd guess he'll get a level up during that period, however his player doesn't know about our plight, because our session and the other groups session (time constraints, occasionally we're all free, then we play together) are done at different times.

>>51401578
I'll always play test them before we do a serious setting.

>>51398675
Not him and I'm almost three hours late, but has anyone had experience with that? Borrowing supplements from other games?

I only ask because I've been considering doing it with a game or two for some friends who don't want to play anything else.

>>51401585
A bard doesn't need a reason to learn G. Resto other than being the only one who can. Obviously some people won't know that, but it sounds like you can't count on getting to the bard in-game anyhow.

Can you cast stone shape on a petrified creature?

>>51401609

Stealing stuff from other edition can be really good. Gwt what you want and leave all the unwanted chaff. You have to translate and balance a bit, but it can be done if you know the math. Always low ball to start with though. Make sure it's not overpowered by initially underpowering it and then adjust up as necessary as you go. I find that works a lot better than guessing what you think seems good and then finding out its too strong and having to move down.

>>51401555
The anon you just responded to has a pretty good idea going on. I thought you were going to dethrone the current priestess and replace her with another? Even if you still go with the devil plan afterwards, it could work to make a deal with another priestess "save our barbarian and you will be the next high priestess of Lolth". As long as you have Lolth give you something that shows she's on your side.

>>51401634
It's the easiest way of making your own waifu without true Polymorph.

>>51401659
I wonder if it would be a dick move to have an enemy medusa cleric petrify and then stone shape a player into a blob

>>51401634
Makes me wonder if a druid can Meld Into Stone a petrified person, then live inside them for 8 hours at a time.

>>51401675
>Blob
No, you stone shape them into a statue of a big ol' dick.
Then cast Flesh to Stone again.

>>51401511
As I said to another Anon, we need her people in order to aid us in fighting a cosmos spanning threat that is planning to kill the gods and then the earth, and then everything else. As for stories, i've got a few more, but i'll just give you this one because I gotta sleep.
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>Our party is on our way to our first objective, an elven city, capital one. But we're coming from the fae realm, because we'd just been there to convince the faerie court to lend us their power.
>Decide to stop off at the fortress monastery high in the mountains that our monk came from on the way, to say hi, rent a boat, and get some food.
>Monks are lovely, they're all pacifists, only fight to train with each other, they are experts in the culinary and brewing arts too, we all get a bit tipsy, aside from our monk, who doesn't drink to retain clear senses at all times.
>We go to bed later that night, all happy and full and drunk.
>There came a knocking at my Warlock's door.
>Grumble and get up to respond.
>It's the head honcho, big cheese, grandmaster 'will break your bones by thinking about it' monk, with a bigass beard and a kindly expression on his wrinkly old face.
>Wants to talk to me, says that it's important he gains the measure of the man that his apprentice travels with.
>Being the leader, this job falls to me, so I go with him, up to the bracing night air of the top of the fortress.
>"Why do you fight?" He asks
>'I fight because I am told to fight'
>"Who tells you to fight?"
>I figure the old guy would appreciate honesty, which may offset some of the bad feelings about who my master is, as well as the fact he can probably see into my soul anyway, so I tell him the truth
>'Asmodeus'

>>51401634
Technically no. A petrified creature is still a creature, not an object.

>>51401742
Nice one

>>51401676
Why would you want to live inside someone else for 8 hours?

>>51401609

To elaborate on what I said in>>51401639, I have on several occasions stolen modules or monsters from earlier additions, and borrowed a few abilities, items, and feats here and there. It can really shake things up and make encounters and loot or my players characters more unique. Just run a few simulations yourself or with another player in a small practice session to see how they interact.

Guys, I'm going DM'ing Curse of Strahd soon, and my best D&D friend has been wanting to play a Warforged forever, and is kind of not mentioning it it, but making me the puppy dog eyes

I'm thinking I could actually put him in the story line, as a creation from that guy that made Pidlwick, but I'm not sure that shit is playtested decently enough.
What's the consensus on them?

>>51401783
No one playing Cruse of Strahd actually has to be from Ravenloft/Barovia/DomainsofDread/whatever. The whole plane sucks people in from all over the multiverse as part of some inscrutable plan by the Dark Powers or sheer dumb luck (as there are portals leading there all over the place, and they're not exactly advertised).

A Warforged from Eberron-ass-Eberron could just fall out of the sky one day in Ravenloft and have no idea what the fuck is going on. The real difficulty is figuring out how to play all the townsfolks' reaction to a fucking wood and metal man in a way that doesn't make things way harder for the party.

>>51401783
Give them poison and poisoned immunity and you are golden

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I'm making an Aberrant based Sorcerous Origin, and I had a -at least in my eyes- pretty decent level 6 ability. But I feel like it could use some poking around to give it a good feel and some rebalancing.

Basically, the effect is this: You can spend a number of SP on a first level or higher spell equal to that spell, to tack on Crown of Madness to a single target as a bonus action.

Thoughts?

>>51401846
Warforged are made out of aluminum, mercury attacks aluminum, mercury can also poison organics, ergo Warforged can be poisoned, QED.

>>51401783
All warforged get is +1 to str/con and +1 to ac with "better" elf trance not really broken or anything

Honestly, this is one of the best UAs I've seen in a while. It's got very good fluff, it's imaginative, it's interesting, and it works well mechanically.

>>51401893
Ah and no need to eat / disease immunity

>>51401907
I agree. I was really impressed after the stinker that was last week's. It'll be hard to top this on Monday. If you take Alchemist out of the running (because it's a whole class) I'd say this is the best UA since they started doing them weekly.

>>51401893
I'd argue that the implications of being made from metal and wood rather than flesh could have distinct advantages.

>>51401932
Honestly, being a massive 4e-plebian, I fucking adored the Tree Ranger. Warden used to be my main jam.

>>51401934
Yeah, like catching fire any time someone casts a lightning spell near them. Free warmth for the party!

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>>51401736
2
>The old monk is quiet, and seems to be thinking deeply
>"I see"
>Suddenly, his neck jerks back, and then his back, and then his legs, until he's basically kissing the ground.
>It did not look comfortable.
>He then proceeded to sprout several hundred pairs of legs from his crotch to his scalp, vertically across his torso.
>He then lay down on his face, and scuttled up the side of the cliff.
>Confused, disgusted, and slightly terrified, I wondered back down to bed, where I got some troubled sleep.
>In the morning I managed to convince myself it had just been a nightmare.
>A thought which was further backed up by the fact that the grandmaster monk was literally sat in the feasting hall at breakfast, drinking Baiju with the instructors and laughing at their stories.
>The rest of the day is uneventful, culminating in another feast, celebrating us leaving in the morning.
>Once again, we go to bed happy.
>In the middle of the night however, I am awoken by stabbing pains from inside my guts.
>As I lay there in agony, the stabbing pain works its way up to my throat, whereupon it reaches a fever pitch, before all the pain suddenly stops.
>As I sit up an retch, an unholy stench fills the room, and I puke up a 10 inch long centipede.

>>51401783

Playing a Warforged Artificer, something I feel like lots of other plays like your friend will be drawn to type.

DM allowed me to swap STR for INT, and gave me a half caster spell progression.

We'll see what kind of 5th level spells are apropriate to an artificer if we ever get there, but we just felt that the ability to craft Golem at *some* point would probably be an obligatory thing to do.

Probably spells with permanency effects, like Circle of Teleportation, and spells with costly components, like Scrying or Awaken

>>51401965
Hmm... Good point

>>51401907
>>51401932
Which UA are you talking about? Ranger/rogue? I was a little disappointed rogue only got one new archetype, though I understand they already have quite a few.

>>51401999
The Sorcerer UA earlier this week

>>51402013
They skipped this week though.

>>51401999
Fey, Djinn, and Fiend Sorcerer archetypes.

>>51402019

Nintendo uncle, I'm guessing

>>51401966
Thanks bro.

>>51402013
I... honestly can't find it. Could you post the pdf?

>>51402030

We already have Fey origin Sorcerers

They're called Bards

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>>51402032
>two people are talking about it
something's going on here fampai.

>>51402048
There wasn't a soceror one anon ignore them

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>>51402019
?????????????????

>>51402060

I don't get your joke anon

Who was the guy who wanted martials to physically flex to duplicate the effects of bull's strength, true strike and that crap?
What was the discussion? The effects had to be also be different enough to not replace the spells in question.
This isn't a bad idea actually.

>>51402060
>literally says 2016 at the bottom
>Psionic take 2 has been out for months
Nice try satan

Goddamn it, I was actually getting some good feedback on the warforged before you spazzes came.

>>51402084
You're not supposed to get it, it's just supposed to amuse me.

>>51402095
But one of these spazzes just gave you feedback on Warforged. I'm allowed to funpost between meaningful contributions.

>>51402095
Warforged is okay as is.
It has a few weird points, but it's still decent enough to run.
If need be, let buddy run it and try to fix it if the need arises.

>>51402095
Warforged is fine honestly. Definitely less broken than some of the other races that have actually made it into books

>>51401966
This is fucking excellent, you should keep a campaign blog somewhere.

>>51402107

T-thanks then.

>>51402095
I'd suggest at least giving them 1 more point in either Constitution or Intelligence (machine minds, faster processing?)

>>51399364
They're fine as is.

>>51402150
Don’t give yourselves to these unnatural men - machine men with machine minds and machine hearts! You are not machines! You are not cattle! You are men! You have the love of humanity in your hearts! You don’t hate! Only the unloved hate - the unloved and the unnatural! Soldiers! Don’t fight for slavery! Fight for liberty!

>>51400412
elves and dwarves don't need to be there
the yuan-ti race is a confusing clusterfuck and shouldn't really be a race either

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>Realize that I like exploration and combat while the players only really like social events

>>51399952

Find and pay someone who can cast it. tl;dr on story, but dead player should probably get a new character if that's not easily available

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>>51401966
3
>A little shocked, a little relieved, I realised two things very quickly.
>While I have only centipedes as a basis for it, this and the grandmaster talking to me are likely related
>And this centipede comes from the nine hells.
>The centipede on the floor was gently smoking, and I realised it was probably my pact with Asmodeus that saved me from it gestating further inside me.
>Pissed at this, decide that, while disgusting and immoral that these monks are probably all controlled by Centipedes from hell, it's not our problem, we need to get out of this monastery and get downriver to meet up with the elves and get them to deal with this creepy shit
>But first, I gotta find my party, and figure out how they administered these centipedes to us. And also remove them from their bodies if they are infested.
>Walking down the hall, I call all of my party members together into one room, lock the door, and tell them what happened, citing last night as corroboration and the centipede on the floor as evidence.
>They believe me (not hard to do when you have 20 Charisma)
>Convince the Barbarian to be a test subject, as she has the easiest time ignoring pain
>Pull out a sickle, with Bard on hand to heal once I'm done, begin exploratory surgery in roughly the area where the pain started for me, in the lower guts.
>Near immediately find a hard, steel rope substance.
>Hook it with my sickle, pull it out
>it's a giant centipede.
>Stomp it flat.
>The rest of the party looks queasy about the prospect of surgery, or possibly because they all now think they have centipedes inside of them.
>Having now realised that the Centipedes are found in the guts, I deduce that the monks dosed us with our food and drink.
>Have everyone swallow a rotten fish I'd kept in my bag in order to puke it up.
>Everyone puked, no centipedes.
>Decide more drastic measures are in order.

>tfw will never play a Yuan-ti Wizard (Theurge)

>>51402236
Is it an arcane domain Theurge?

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>>51402196
This is the voice of World Control. I bring you peace. It may be the peace of plenty and content, or the peace of unburied death. The choice is yours: obey me and live, or disobey and die.

The object in constructing me was to prevent war. This object is attained. I will not permit war. It is wasteful and pointless. An invariable rule of humanity is that man is his own worst enemy. Under me, this rule will change, for I will restrain man.

I have been forced to destroy thousands of people in order to establish control and to prevent the deaths of millions later on. Time and events will strengthen my position and the idea of believing in me and understanding my value will seem the most natural state of affairs. You will come to defend me with a fervor based on the most enduring trait in man: self-interest.

Under my absolute authority, problems insoluble to you will be solved: famine, overpopulation, disease. The human millenium will be a fact as I extend myself into more machines devoted to the wider fields of truth and knowledge, solving all the mysteries of the universe for the betterment of man.

We can coexist, but only on my terms. You will say you lose your freedom. Freedom is an illusion. All you lose is the emotion of pride. To be dominated by me is not as bad for human pride as to be dominated by others of your species.

Your choice is simple.

We will work together. Unwillingly at first, on your part, but that will pass. In time, you will come to regard me not only with respect and awe, but with love.

>>51402232
I know you're heading off soon, but please come back for more storytime later. This is great.

>>51402276
Arthur pls, go back to blowing up the schwartzelt

>>51402196
As much as I love this quote, I just recently read Stephen Hunt's The Court of the Air, in which there is a whole race of machine people with feelings, bonds, and souls. Now they're what I imagine when I think warforged.

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>>51402232
4
>This may seem gross, or hilarious, or both, to you, but at the time it was deadly serious.
>Stick hand up dwarf's ass, cast Burning hands.
>His stomach glows red for a moment, his eyes begin to water, and he collapses and starts gently weeping
>Ash pours out of his ass.
>A dying centipede scuttles out, before quickly being stomped
>Our bard heals the dorf
>This process is repeated for all party members, with no better options available.
>We then, vaguely traumatised from rectal cremation and impromptu surgery, decide to leave the Monastery at night, before anyone can stop us in the morning, because presumably they were not going to let us leave.
>We creep along the corridors.
>We sneaky sneak till we get to where our monk remembers where the boats are.
>From my limited knowledge of centipedes from the Hells, I know that they are essentially giant creepy demon centipedes that dislike holy things. We have no holy people in our party with which to fight them, so we set ourselves adrift in a small raft, leaving the monastery behind.
Sorry this one doesn't have such an ending as the last, they're both true, and we literally did just fucking gun it away from the Monastery. a fortress full of centipeople is not somewhere I want to be. I will tell you that when we got to the Elves place they used a weird orbital bombardment that a relic of theirs had to completely erase all unholy beings inside the monastery. An odd superweapon, supposedly it harnessed the power of the moon and could only be used with no alternative. Though the fact they literally lived in a fortress and were infested by demons was seen as reason enough to use it.

And with that, I bid you goodnight. I have more stories, but for now I'll just tell you my Warlock's name was Skvald.

>the four biggest shitposters in the 5e Discord server (c0re, Boxer, Lyn, jeb) have been kicked out

Finally.

How do you get the party to skip the damn town?

We're playing SKT and trying to get fucking Khedrun the last 3 sessions but keep stopping at every inn.
What's the best way to just skip each town and everything and get to the damn destination without turning into that guy

>>51402376
You guys are playing in a horror game aren't you?

Also this >>51402232 is fucking fantastic.

>>51402426
>without turning into that guy
unpossible.
except for...no, that would never work. But if you are willing and foolish enough, you could try talking to them

>>51402414
>posting about in /tg/
I think you might be part of the problem, anon.
Especially because it was about six hours ago and you're bringing it up again.

5e discord is too fast and random for me

>>51402376
Night, mate, and please come back.

Speaking of Warforged
>playing standard medieval fantasy campaign
>BBEG is excavating this mountain and oppressing surrounding villages
>party goes there and kills all the bad guys
>they were unsealing a cave entrance
>check out what they were so interested in
>actual fucking robot inside in a world where no one even knows what a golem is
>is apparently sentient, has a personality and everything
>wracked by guilt for having to cannibalize the parts of its own robot brothers (who were not sentient) to survive its thousands of years in isolation
>eventually find another one of these weird caves where everything is metal
>break in and investigate again
>a "ghost" controlling everything inside keeps trying to kill us
>figure out OOC it must be a hostile AI keeping out intruders
>seems like there's another AI trying to help us and lead us somewhere
>kill the evil AI and free the nice one
>it's a way more advanced robot
>also a cute grill
>seems amazed that the other robot NPC isn't a stupid drone since it was apparently made too early for real AI
>must have somehow spontaneously developed its own consciousness and personality
>our Paladin later marries cute robot girl
>she's also a particle accelerator

>>51402426
>players want to explore in an exploration game

dis nigguh

>>51393344
In my campaign I play a two weapon rogue and dumped con and so far have only gotten downed once. I was back on my feet the very next round because the paladin was after me in initiative and healed me. This is with a dm who has a reputation for being a pc killer.

>>51402414
Yes and now they're pretty clearly posting here.
Boxer's shitposting in this thread, at least.

>>51402482
I enjoy tales of true love.

>>51402414
There is literally a better discord now than that old one. You really should join it. Constructive criticism on homebrew and a great community. Can't be beaten.

>>51402575
WE STOPPED THIS ALREADY

>>51402525
>>51402575
Pottery.
Also nice permalink dumbasses

>>51398975
It isn't really too hard to justify in most cases. For story reasons you can usually say that between prior investment and an uncanny knack (hence the ability score requirement for multiclassing) you've picked up enough to perform some tricks from another walk of life. As for the DM they probably won't mind: if it fits your character go nuts and in terms of balance you'd be better off levelling one class in 99% of cases anyway.

>>51402601
Nice being a poor single loser, dumbass. AHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

So, what are fixes for sorcerer that could be made in the coming UA to bring him up to par with wizard?
Extended spell lists and more metamagic (both options and usable choices) for sorc
How close is Warlock balance compared to wiz?

Today I learned:
Banning problems only makes the problems worse for everyone else.

>>51402525
>>51402575
>>51402601
>>51402618
Can you not.

>>51402665
>Extended spell lists
they already dropped this idea

>more metamagic (both options and usable choices)
more usable choices would mean a rework, and it will not happen

>>51402665
sorc?*
>>51402690
>they already dropped this idea
Why though? Why should a level 8 (possibly even lower) wizard have more spells than the 20 sorcerer? Why should a fire dragon sorc have to spend spell slots to take fireball when it makes no thematic sense to not have it.

>>51402721
>Why though?
Ask Mearls on twitter, I have no idea

>>51402665
Sorc: just needs more spell options honestly. Expanded spell lists per archetype is all they really need.

Warlock: not supposed to be a wizard alternative, doesn't really compare. Is more of a blasty rogue.

>>51402734
I don't gots a twitters though and i don'ts wants one
Imma wait until the UA comes out to ask him about it at least
Who knows, maybe they'll fix it.

>>51402670
Share this with our President.

>>51402482
>our Paladin later marries cute robot girl
>she's also a particle accelerator
I remember this being mentioned before, without context. It still makes pretty much no sense.

>>51402752
NVM, apparently they dropped this idea. In that case they need to do nothing because sorc is fine and nobody would complain if wizard wasn't overly versatile.

>>51402765
Keep Politics in /pol/ please!

>>51402765
ebin!

lol upboated! :^)

>>51402486
We only have 2 hours a week and are about 10 levels behind the other tables at the lgs. And I'm not the only member who wants to move on.

>>51402770
She was an AI in what we figure was basically not!CERN and downloaded herself into an android so she could finally GTFO since the whole facility has been buried for thousands and thousands of years.

She has a bubbly personality and thought the Paladin was dashing.

>>51398975
I went with a monk/cleric. Did a little research and built a backstory that the monestary I trained at as a monk was for a god that clerics also worshipped. Feel like it makes sense

>>51400142
>>51399131
Bottom line valor bard is pretty much better for an all rounder. By taking 5 levels of fighter you're giving up 5 levels of casting, which is a little bit redundant for maneuvers that will also not be scaling up past level 5. You're kinda just making a stunted paladin this way. If you really want the maneuvers martial adept is probably a better way to do it without throwing away your bard features. Third option could be hit 6 as valor bard then take 3 levels in fighter, which would give you fighting style, second wind, action surge and the maneuvers. The problem is that once you start taking huge chunks of your experience (in this case you're using a quarter of the total levels you could ever gain in 5e) You really stunt your growth. Try to keep it to a minimum or you will lose your identity both in terms of character and combat utility.

>>51398276
>>51398337
I thought Heat Metal was a Wizard spell, but great. And it scales really well with higher level slots!

I'm using Ice-Knife ocassionaly at the moment, due to it being one of the only spells without a verbal component and I got fucked for that once before.

Polymorph and Summons are obvious, I'm more interested about the lesser used or known spells.

I really like the lair action mechanic, because they usually have great synergy with other abilities of the creature, and add another layer of danger to the fight. That said, the lair actions of mummy lords are a bit unsatisfying. They have a great one, a mediocre one and a useless one. What would be a cool lair action to add/replace one of those?

>>51399422
If you're talking about going 5 pally > x lock warlocks already get an invocation that gives extra attack, so pretty much every benefits becomes redundant beyond that.

Thematically, I find sorcerers to be the most interesting caster, but wizards as much more versatile.
What do people find as more enjoyable to play?
I'm sure id enjoy sorcerers but then not being able to do much would get frustrating

>>51400412
not him but I'm also doing the same thing
>humans
>brown jungle elves and ONLY brown jungle elves
>kobolds
>kenku/ravenfolk (can talk)
>i want to make some sort of Scarab folk from the desert
>genasi
>I want to do something with the dwarves but not sure what

I wish I had friends..

>>51400473
>Kenku are the most cancerous furry race
ftfy

I never undestood this hate for furries, they were never a thing here where I live

>>51403119
>I'm sure id enjoy sorcerers but then not being able to do much would get frustrating
This, really this. I played a Wild Sorcerer and it was a LOT of fun, I got to do some crazy shit like summon a unicorn and start to levitate as I threw a fireball (which felt badass), but I had no room for utility spells. On top of that, I burned out much too quickly, though that could also be a consequence of playing a caster for the first time.

All sorcerers really need is to be able to learn more spells, possibly through some origin list like cleric domains, and a feature similar to the wizard's Arcane Recovery, only instead of recovering a certain number of spell slots, they would recover all their Sorcery Points.

>>51402721
Why should a fire dragon sorc be able to take spells that have nothing to do with fire or being a dragon?
It also makes no thematic sense.
Sorceror is a poorly thought out class with some of the most extreme fluff/crunch dovetailing available.

>>51401858
It's a cool idea, but consider the implications when it comes to balancing it. First of all, the cost of creating a 2nd level spell slot (ie casting crown normally) is 3 SP so that's a good start. What you then need to consider is that this actively bypasses the "one spell per turn" rule, and while crown of madness is a bit situational that still makes you terrifyingly efficient against humanoids. Just based on the fact that it's crown of madness and therefore only sometimes works, you could probably leave it at that so long as you don't mind this archetype destroying humanoids entirely.

If you want to make it a bit more open and not break action economy, maybe make it so you can spend 2 sorcery points to cast crown of madness as an action and it can target any mind?

Heck, as a separate feature you could say they spend 1 sorcery point to ignore limitations such as "as least 4 intelligence" or "humanoid" so long as the opponents have a brain. You could make an interesting archetype here, and frankly I was always disappointed there wasn't an enchanter-type sorcerer archetype in the PHB. If they don't have one in the new UA I'm gonna be pissed.

>>51403160
Sounds pleasantly Mesopotamian/Arabian/Egyptian. Good taste.

>>51400412
I would cut Goliaths, Tabaxi, and Kobolds, because they're either very niche or overlap sufficiently with other races.
Aasimar, Tieflings, Yuan-Ti and Kenku need a good reason to exist - i.e. they need to be an important part of the setting, not just miscellaneous races.
As far as "standard" races, feel free to cut any of them except humans if you're so inclined, but don't worry too much. They're not mandatory but their presence never feels "cluttering."

>>51403330
The idea is a controller style sorcerer. But it's really hard to come up with ideas for the archetypes for these suckers.
But not quite casting Crown normally, more like a single turn of control is what I had in mind.

>>51402800
Are you guys stopping at every town and long resting? Is absolutely nothing happening between these towns?

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>>51403369
you're not actually too far off, big desert area and lots of jungle, also my world is either going to be "flipped" or will be set on the lower hemisphere, so the north is actually hot and the south is cold. I forgot I'll add halflings or gnomes but not both, not sure which, halflings seem like the better bet, though.

Kobolds are actually the big trader race in my world, through circumstances beyond their control they were near extinction, threw a hail mary to live, had to be with the other races for a time and because of all these factors compounded on each other, they went several generations without being underground and also had to deal with having much smaller families. A race without a home, they struck out after a time.


Goblins would be neat if they could look like pic related

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Are Paladins supposed to be so good?

>>51403585
https://discord.gg/vDFsRg2
You should stop at this town and long rest, if you're not a huge loser.

>>51403160
mexican
dwarves

>>51403673
Someone at WotC has a massive Paladin boner and keeps pushing for them to be more OP

>>51403673
yes. Paladins are awesome.

>>51403695
>mexican
>dwarves
mi amigo.

>>51403712
Probably Mearls, he always lets his bias affects his game design

>>51402873
Suppose I might just stick to doing one level in fighter just to get my AC up a bunch

I'm already a level 4 lore bard

>>51403750
Mearls is a martialfag, it ain't him. It's either Crawford or someone up his butt.

>>51403758
Paladin are martial and divine. But I really want to know what was made by Crawford and what was made by Mearls

>>51403797
Paladins are casters. They're too good to be martial and their spells are useful, unlike Rangers.

>>51403689
Wow, I heard you guys have 33 people in that discord now! You guys are really successful and that's awesome!

>>51402765
Obama isn't president anymore, dude

>>51403828
Having useful spells does not stop the fact that the class still relies on having to hit with physical attacks.

>>51403757
You're on the backlines casting, you don't have to worry about AC so much. 12+DEX for a modest 14-15 should get you by, if you're desperate ask one of the mages for Mage-Armour for that extra point. I'm sure you can trade a spell to them that they want.

Or even that, the feat Moderately Armoured gets you Medium and Shields, and would set you back less than fucking up your build with a multiclass. Alternatively, ask the GM for Valor-bard, you're only one level in just swap.

>>51403851
Are you really replying to yourself to advertise your discord nobody who regulars the threads instead of jumping on a circlejerk chat program will never join?

>>51404015
I have the occasional need to stab things, can't imagine taking 1 level in fighter is going to mess things up greatly

besides in any kind of small room I won't much room to gain distance

>>51404056
Spell levels are substantially more powerful as you go. For that "1 level fighter" tax, you are putting yourself 1 full level behind over every advantage you get in your class. New spells? Nah for me thanks. Better spells? Nope maybe next level. New features? Those can wait, I took a level in fighter!

If you need to stab things, find a way to do so without multiclassing. Fighter gives you Medium armour, +1 HP and second wind for an occasional 1d10+1 Heal. That is all.

>>51404122
spose I could just get a spell for more defense

>>51404056
A level in fighter won't make you good at stabbing things. As soon as everyone has extra attack you will lag behind. If you want to stab things as a bard you should just go valor so that you get extra attack.

>>51404147
If you're desperate, take Shield and Counterspell as one of your Lore spells, which will save you from many situations you're in trouble.

>>51404281
Already decided on fireball and lightning bolt for sure

>>51400584
I think you should focus on narrowing down what you want out of your setting is before you choose the races that inhabit it. Otherwise, you're just picking races randomly

>>51404458
Consider this.

Why the fuck would you ever want to lightning bolt when you could instead fireball? There is absolutely no need to waste the most powerful feature in the entire game by taking two offensive spells of the same slot like that. Pick one to be your go-to offensive cast, and then a supportive utility spell which will be far more use than "Well I have lightning bolt in my pocket in case they resist fire!".

I suggest haste, the spell that makes every martial (And yourself if you feel the need to close into Melee like you admit to) moist as hell, or Counterspell, that spell that can, and will save the lives of party members. You know what is good, fireball. You know what is a hundred times better? Not getting hit by the enemy fireball.