/swg/ Vader's a badass edition

How good are bombs in X-Wing, speaking generally?

>>51320274
I love me some seismic charges. the fact that they are free to deploy makes them very good for opportunistic use, and just having them equipped works as a deterrent, keeping the enemies on their toes when navigating.
I haven't really tried out any action based mines yet though, not sure how good they are.

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Fun facts about Peter Cushing!
Carrie Fischer noted that she felt bad being so snarky to him on camera when he was the sweetest guy off camera. Especially the line where she chides him about his "foul stench" when he literally smelled of lavender.
Cushing would gargle mouthwash and splash lavender water on his skin before filming just to make sure he didn't smell bad to his fellow castmates.
He was an avid wargamer and collected and painted miniatures for historical battles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEC7dsFlvIE
He's also famous for having complained that he felt upstaged by the special effects in the movie. In reality he meant it as a joke and said that his biggest regret was dying in the first one meant he didn't get to be in any more of them.
If only he knew...

>>51320325

'nother fun fact: The jackboots given to him by the Costuming department were super-uncomfortable, so he cut a deal with Lucas. Whenever Tarkin is shot from the waist-up, he was wearing fluffy slippers, but he'd wear the boots when they needed a full-body shot.

Considering a small houserule for EotE: it's a bit of an edge case, but I think it's important.

>Weapons with Fire Arc: All may be fired from the Pilot's or Co-pilot's position, but can only be fired in the forward arc. Weapons with Fire Arc: All may fire in any arc if manned by a dedicated gunner.

This really only applies to bombers and / or light frigates, since most starfighters have their weapons as fire arc: front anyway and any capital ship worth its salt will have dedicated gunners. It really is there to explain why Luke & Han jumped into the gunner positions while Chewie took the helm when escaping from the DS1.

>>51320325
>>51320406

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdXLDvx_tHQ

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>>51320468
My God he is just so adorably British!

>>51320468
he was a gem

Anyone got any images of Jedi/Sith/Whatever in armour that isn't all covered in flowy robes and capes?

>>51320601
They take the robes off before fighting, no need.

>>51320325
He's one of the biggest reasons the first movie is my favorite movie.

What a class act.

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>>51320325
>>51320406
ONE OF US
Ahem.
I've always wanted to play a SW game from the Imperial side where the Empire isn't portrayed as a bunch of mustache-twirling villains ruled by an evil mastermind. Also fuck midichlorians for being powerlevel bullshit that takes the whole point out of the Jedi's mysticism.
A couple of changes to the motivations and methods of the Empire (and the Emperor) would be plenty to definitively give them the moral high ground they arguably already have. A couple of ideas that pop into my head:
>Emperor Palpatine is not a Sith Lord that killed his master, but a Force-Sensitive trained by a Jedi Master who was sick of the Jedi Council's untouchability and the Senate's red tape. Bonus points if the same master trained Qui-Gon.
>With the formation of the Empire, the Jedi are dissolved and Force-Users are instructed under Imperial schooling (some might say propaganda) as servants of the general public who are educated and treated as commissioned officers and are accountable for their duties to Lord Vader and the Emperor.
>Lord Vader is the Imperial High Inquisitor (replacing in position the Inquisitor given in the animated series) who leads and disciplines the Empire's Force Users, acts as an instructor on combat and the Force from time to time, and acts as the effective arm of the Empire.
>Stormtroopers are either recruited from the Clone Troopers that wish to remain in combat (and are given proper right to retire as well as a pension if not) or volunteers trained by Imperial academies by former Clone Troopers and bounty hunters or experienced career soldiers. A draft would be an emergency method and the use of clones as forced conscripts would be seen as reason that the Republic was corrupt and treated them as tools rather than men.
>Probably tone down the racism against non-humans, especially because there are a lot of races, like the Kel Dor, that have their own Force Traditions the Empire can draw from.
Has anyone already run such a game?

>>51320608
Sure. But you see plenty of concept art and video game art with it on, and I'm looking for stuff where they're wearing armour without long tangle-tastic loin cloths or capes.

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>>51320612
I like maintaining lore, I think the Human supremacy of the empire is a core concept of theirs, instead of changing you should look into justifying it. trying to change it would change the way you would think.

for the emperor, why don't you use the old idea that he was simply trying to prepare for the arrival of the yuzhang vong, just replace the vong with something you know. not stupid.

that way you can keep the classic emperor and vader which are both great characters in their respective ways, and just twist them ever so slightly. keeping vader as the emperor's enforcer is really fun to play, and his reputation will precede him when/if your players run into him.

I did an imperial based game and I always tend to show the brighter side of the empire, it brings order and stability. as well as change, may not be great for everyone but can do it, unlike the festering republic.

storm troopers are a complete separate military branch, and are selected from the imperial army for more training anyway clones simply aren't as reliable as born and bred humans, couple that with the kaminonan rebellions. and you got a distrust for clones.

you could have the force users fall under the jensarii or the imperial knights, or have them form underground force cults

don't make vader an inquisitor it doesn't fit him.

in fact don't use the inquisition they are stupid in the SW universe, just use ISB and have there be agents who are force users.

in the end keep palps and vader the way they are, to give some grounding for the verse your players are in, you can always make up new grand moffs, or officials who "truly" govern the empire while the emperor does fuck all.

>>51320722
The idea of a bunch of greek mystery cults that are basically fronts for force users is pretty neat.

>>51320643
Why not google Jedi without armor? Google rarely fails when asked with specific terms.

>>51320787
Because it gives them in street clothes or in the flowy things, barring one or two bits of concept art I already had.

I checked DDG to get out of the search bubble - nada.

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>>51320643
It's really more of a Sith thing to wear just armor.
Robes are the symbols of the Jedi Order, so there's little reason for a Jedi to NOT wear them, even in combat because that just screams to everyone, "I AM JEDI!"
Of course, most Sith, at least named Sith, are going to have some sort of robes/cape/flowing loin cloth because they're trying to crib the Darth Vader style.

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>>51320795
>It's really more of a Sith thing to wear just armor.
or they go in completely the other direction

"it's like every fashion designer in the galaxy went over to the dark side" - Kira Carsen

>>51320811
That's Sith Sorcerer. Basically the Wizards of the Sith. They do that because they want to be Palpatine.

>>51320722
Alright, I'm doing some concept revisions:

Justifying human supremacy is easier done by people who are actually Imperials than players, though it would provide a nice roleplaying opportunity. It wouldn't be the result specifically of direct policy, but of the fact that a lot of the big players in the Empire are human. I think protections against xenophobia would be legally kept but effectively ignored. After all, clone troopers were human and they were the heroes of the Clone Wars, protecting the future citizens of the Empire from the alien Trade Federation. The Emperor and Lord Vader were also human.

The Emperor foreseeing the fall of the Jedi and creating the Empire to enforce order from the ruins of the self-destructive and petty Republic might be all the justification he needs, now that I think about it- He believes Anakin really did bring balance to the Force by eliminating the burden of the Jedi.

The Imperial Knights would hold onto most of the Force Users and Imperial ex-Jedi (the younglings might have been recruited and not killed) who are Force-Users and believers in the force but don't subscribe to Jedi beliefs, seeing the Force as a method to restore order and protect the innocent, not believing in the light or dark side but just that it is a Force that can be applied, an inherent quality to the universe, a sort of vital energy.

Focus on the moffs is an excellent idea because the Empire is deliberately de-centralized, so as opposed to the stuck-up Senate that always gets up in the business of its constituents, the Empire is a protective force that only regulates to enforce order and universal, unbiased Imperial ideals, rather than a Senator's personal agenda- and lets most areas govern by rules that fit the system best, with (presumably) only the best of the best achieving Imperial governorship, decreasing hereditary corruption.

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>>51320601
Does Luke in stormtrooper armor count?

>>51320612
>>51320722
>>51320917
You can play good people in the Empire without changing the Empire itself, that kind of undermines the entire point of the empire. Where does the conflict even come from in this utopia of yours?

>>51320601
obi-wan had armored robes

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>>51320601
Tales of the Jedi had quite a few.

>>51320970
Just because the slightly modded Empire has (some) good ideas and intends to enforce them doesn't change the fact that the shift in allegiance will at minimum step on toes regardless of intent, if not break a few feet under heavy boots.

Systems used to non-Imperial ruling styles will chafe under the changes. The heavy-handedness of Imperial propaganda will lead people to believe that the whole Empire is a crock of shit, the dissolution of the Senate will raise some serious questions about the right (or lack therof) of the Emperor to rule, a bad choice of Moff would mean serious repercussions for the Empire as a whole.
Aliens would see the Empire in a bad light, decentralization could lead to the rise of corruption not directly related to the head leader. Imperial methods could be brutal. Slave labor as a form of criminal punishment would be kept, along with the issues that spawn from it.
The Empire would probably have its political enemies executed or arrested, not all rightfully. People looking for a quick step up in rank could cheat newly-implemented Imperial systems before the flaws could be found.
Crime lords could take the shift of power in their favor during the turnaround time from Republic to Empire. Some people may not accept the Empire at all, taking the break from the Republic as a chance for self-government. Does the Empire take control of these new independents or not? Are they responsible for old citizens of the Republic?
The Jedi were generally decimated, but they're also powerful individuals in their own right and have sway in some societies that champion them. If the Emperor is killed, who takes his place? How does the Empire standardize education? What about powerful businessmen that don't agree with the Empire's philosophies, standards, or methods? Who's going to pay for all of these reforms? How long is it going to take, and how can the Empire guarantee their effectiveness?

There are a lot of things that can and will go wrong.

>>51320970
I don't?? I was just giving the dude ideas for his world that he wanted, and you can get conflict just fine with the moffs themselves, humans will always be greedy, and there always be someone who wants more.

>>51321131
Oh, yeah, and the whole deal where people who don't toe the Imperial line to the max are considered crackpots, rebel scum, or rebel scum sympathizers. Plus, you know, the rebel scum that will inevitably arise and perceived or real atrocities committed by Imperial agents and military forces to crack down on rebels.
A member of the Imperial elite may believe the law-abiding have nothing to fear from being monitored, but rights to privacy are very important to a LOT of people. Some formerly loyal Imperials may question the cause due to pressures they face in the field. Some of Palaptine's ideas will just plain be wrong, particularly the Tarkin Doctrine as both be a force for order but also the biggest reason for people to join the Rebels.
And if that Death Star ever gets fired, you know someone's going to mutiny somewhere.
The point is that no government that big is going to be a perfect blameless system made from gold, ivory and marble. This is still the Star Wars universe, just with more reason to be an Imperial from an ideological perspective.

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>To the guy in the last thread asking about Imperial Assault
The skirmish mode can be a lot of fun. The map and mission system provides variety to how games might go and what lists might do well. And the command card system introduces an element of hidden information and surprises.

The biggest downsides are setup times (if you are using the tiles), the investment (it isn't a cheap game, even for just the base set), and the fact that the figures are unpainted (although for some people that is actually a positive).

If you end up getting it, I recommend figuring out a few skirmish maps that you like playing on and getting vinyl maps printed out for those rather than always having to build the maps with tiles. It can save you a ton of setup time.

I also recommend that you don't overlook the campaign mode. As long as you have a consistent group, it's a blast to play through.

Also, note that the latest tournament FAQ changes how scoring is done for multi-figure groups. Before, you had to kill off an entire group of Stormtroopers to get the 6 points for them. Now if you kill 1, you get 2 points; if you kill 2, you get 4 points. The change really nerfs some advantages that multi-figure groups had. No running away with the last survivor of a group to deny your opponent points, and if you play Reinforcements, your opponent can get more points by re-killing your figures.

>>51320612
>Muh Empire Apologism

Man if you want to play good guy imperials just do Fel Empire. In Legacy they even have their own force order the Imperial Knights who care about "the force as embodied by the emperor" and they recruit non humans into the stormtrooper core

>>51321616
>core
>not corps

God I feel so dumb right now

How about some big ship love?

Starkiller Base Pilot
-FCS
-Hyperwave Comms Scanner

Starkiller Base Pilot
-FCS
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Lieutenant Dormitz
-FCS
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This can counter deploy against any list and chuck red dice like mad. Takes a bit to turn around though. Even with 1 red turns.

>>51320722
>don't use the inquisition they are stupid in the SW universe
>I am so assravaged over inquisicopters that I can't see their potential for fun and interesting interaction

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>>51320722
>in fact don't use the inquisition they are stupid in the SW universe
Fuck you, Jerec was cool as shit.

where would a bunch of no-name rebels, like duty level 0-2, get a hold of enough men to man a CR90 sized vessel?

>>51322217
Depends. Will they get mad if you give them all Obligation: Debt?

>>51322269
two of them already have obligation, crime and bounty

>>51322217
A rebel cell that's evacuating their post because it's been compromised/burned. it's an action scene and gives the NPCs some flavor.

>>51320722
>I think the Human supremacy of the empire is a core concept of theirs
Why?
In the original movies, you can coun't the aliens used by the alliance and the empire on both hands.
You could argue that the republic is a mostly human sphere and the alien species are mostly present on the fringe, but in the prequel you got aliens of all kinds on coruscant, even the senate is full of them.
I can see why the empire would hate droids, jedi, or even clones. But all aliens? They aren't lacking in srapegoats.

>>51322523

The aliens were a huge scapegoat for the Empire.

The CIS leadership, with the exception of Count Dooku was almost entirely non-human. Similarly, Imperial propaganda had it that the Senate was so bureaucratic and corrupt *because* there were so many aliens present.

The majority of the Core World systems were human-dominated, and it is from these worlds that the Empire drew most of its strength, both in manpower and economic output.

>>51322523
>empire hates clones
Given that the clones were the army responsible for setting up the empire, why would they hate clones?

New article on no disintegrations is out. looks like we'll be getting Mando armor and rockets.

>>51322217
Mutiny.

>>51322580
A very good question.
Hell, they even performed Palpatines orders to the letter, so why should he have just switched from clone troopers to regular mooks?

>>51322809
They got old and were too expensive to produce, it's easier to just recruit normal people and train them than to grow them from scratch.

>>51322217
Being aboard a space station full of scum and villainy that gets attacked by the empire and then just putting up a sign saying "Wanna shoot at that SD with warship guns? Sign ups this way!"

>>51322825
Maybe if the empire didn't spend all its money on doomsday weapons that get blown up by simple star fighters, they could afford and actually decent army.

>>51322809
clones are expensive, and take ten years to grow.

>>51322849
>an actually decent army
The Imperial Army is good, Stormtroopers are even better. It's just that you barely ever see them winning because the plot demands it.

>>51322961
Ben Kenobi please go.

>>51322976
The Force flows through all living beings, and I with it. You shall not be rid of me.

>>51322580
I've always assumed that the clone army was quickly dismantled after the war as a way of cementing the legitimacy of it all. "The Empire is for the people by the people," and other such rhetoric. It makes people trust the army more (because, don't worry, it's other real people and not mindless clones) and that's obviously a great thing for a group wanting to consolidate power.

In an EotE campaign coming up I'm rolling a Togorian Gadgeteer. Would it be viable to use jury rigging, and crafting rules to make a powerful brass knuckles set as my primary (brawl) weapon?

We're playing a bit of an espionage-esque campaign so carrying a big ass blaster rifle/carbine may draw too much attention. Aside from the knucks, I've stowed away a grenade and a holdout blaster in my pockets.

>>51323069
Rebels explains that the clones were forced to retire as they got too old, and the Empire simply didn't continue the cloning program. Perhaps it was because the program was too expensive, perhaps Jango's genetic material used for the cloning became degraded over time, perhaps the Empire had more populist motives as you claim. We're not really given a specific answer, but do we really need one?

>>51323157
>clones were forced to retire as they got too old
Or they could be instructors at imperial academies.

>>51323157
The Clone Wars did mention that Jango's DNA was degrading and causing more and more mutations the more they made.
And then wasn't the cloning facility on Kamino destroyed anyway? Killing all the people who knew how to make the clones and All the original samples of Jango's DNA.

>>51322849
>>51322961
We only really see stormtroopers fight against Jedi and highly trained mercenary-types. Against the average Rebel militiaman or the cheap-ass crew of a pirate they probably fare much better.

>>51323175
Some of them probably are. The only ones we've met have been guys who performed brain surgery on themselves and pretty much deserted

>>51323255
They didn't desert. Even though they removed their inhibitors, they served until the Empire retired them.

>>51320325
Here have a blooper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S9E90nVDYs

I also heard when he smoked he'd wear a glove so that when he shook peoples hand he wouldn't get nicotine on them.

>>51320497
>>51320502
If you like Cushing go watch the Hammer Dracula films. You get to see him killing Christopher Lee.

>>51323128
While brass knuckles wouldn't be bad, I would personally use my Tinkerer on a shock glove to give it two hard points, then give it a weighted head attachment, mod it, then use jury-rigging to lower the activation cost of concussive. You'll be pretty good at neutralizing opponents with that and the Gadgeteer's brawling techniques.

>>51323243
>Against the average Rebel militiaman or the cheap-ass crew of a pirate they probably fare much better.
As we saw on the Tantive IV and on Hoth, stormtroopers absolutely destroy Rebel grunts who don't have the luxury of plot armor.

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>>51320325
>>51320612
>>51320497
>>51320502
>>51323422

Yeah, if you like Peter Cushing, the best way to honour his memory is by watching his other, more obscure films.

Don't forget, Christopher Lee and Vincent Price all were in the same sets of films at the same time.

I'd reccomend:

>The Curse of Frankenstein
>The Revenge of Frankenstein
>Horror of Dracula
>The Mummy
>The Brides of Dracula
>The Hound of the Baskervilles (which you've probably already seen if you're from certain parts of Canada, as it's part of your high school curriculum)
>Twins of Evil
>Tales From the Crypt
>The Creeping Flesh (one of my favorites)

Cushing was part of an acting tradition that barely exists any more, and we're all worse off for it.

Finally, a song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_w45Ad5xZI

>>51323200
One facility was heavily damaged. Not all of them. They still were creating clones up to the end of the war, with those last few batches continuing to serve the Empire through at least Yavin and Hoth.

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Continuing the Space Nazgul idea from a few threads ago. Knights of Ren as the Space Nazgul, with a horrifically corrupted Kylo Ren as the Witch-King: alright idea or too stupid?

>>51323634
What's the terrifying, corrupting artifacts in this scenario? The gloves of Darth Vader?

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>>51323634
Depends. are you going to do the screeching every time the players encounter them?

If so, yes

>>51323658
gloves
Too obvious. I was going for some sort of connection to Nihilus rather than overt artifact ownership. Old Munchy made contact with Korriban's dark side nexus when he was buried and I wanted to expand on that concept. Being that powerful and that close to a dark side nexus should do more than let you float around and insult newfags like Darth Krayt. Probably some Sith fanboys did their homework and achieved a state of being similar to Nihilus, but far weaker. Current working explanation is a coin toss between "possessed by fragments of Nihilus' spirit" and "Sith alchemy, I don't gotta explain shit."

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>>51323634
If you'd like to do this, split a sheet of paper in half. One one half write down the thematic and literary characteristics of the Nazgul. On the other, the characteristics of the Knights of Ren.

If they significantly overlap, then you're OK. If one feeds into the other, then you're also OK. But if not, you're really diminishing the result by mixing oil and water.

Here's my quick list:

Nazgul: spirits, hateful, ancient kings corrupted, represent the folly and ambition of man, barely exist and are held together by sorcery, dispatched by a powerful otherworldly figure, wholly evil

Knights of Ren: people, students, seduced by the Dark Side, human, conflicted, the new generation, represent the folly of the teacher and the conflict of youth vs experience, lead by a corrupting but equal leader but backed by a shadowy power, not wholly evil

Yeah, I'm not seeing it. The Knights of Ren might try dressing up as Nazgul-like figures to evoke them and the same tropes they draw on, but they aren't actually the same thing.

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Draft 3 of my Star Wars Fate Core hack is up.

There are a fair number of other hacks out there, but I like mine for its simplicity. There are no extras, no new mechanics, no major changes to the rules. It's evocative rather than prescriptive.

It also has fancy fonts.

>>51323742
Good point. But on the other hand, even the Nazgul had to start somewhere. There would have been a point in time where they had only just transformed and were still new to whole 2spooky gig. And given that we don't know the exact nature or backstories of the Knights of Ren or Snoke yet, it's difficult to say how well they really match up to the Nazgul in motivations. Unless I've missed a fuckton of nucanon material, most of them haven't gotten much info besides the fact that they're dark siders who aren't true Sith. So there are plenty of blanks to fill that could feasibly be adapted to the whole Ringwraith schtick.

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>>51324003
I think "new Nazgul testing out their powers" is, from a literary point of view, kind of a dead end. It feels wrong.

The shticks of both factions are incompatible, from my point of view. Sorry. The Dark Side corrupts your humanity, but it doesn't turn you into a ghost made of spite and a lust for power. It lessens you, but in a very mortal, very life-based way.

>>51321833
>>51321939
These. Ignore Rebels, Inquisitors are based as fuck when done properly

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>>51321833

>>51323634
Force Ghosts corrupted by Darth Nihilus are better than anything to do with Ren. Hell, I would take Kyp Durron, the Suncrusher and Corran Horn as villain protagonists over *anything* to do with Kylo Ren.

If we're doing Nazguls in Star Wars, they should be cyborgs. Like Vader, they are barely alive and kept together with inhuman machinery, and you can add in brain modifications in the style of Dengar that disables any non-darkside emotions.

>>51324057
>The Dark Side corrupts your humanity, but it doesn't turn you into a ghost made of spite and a lust for power.
>Nihilus became so absorbed by the dark side of the Force and his hunger that his physical body began to erode. Knowing that he would succumb to death if he did not act soon, Nihilus ripped his spirit from his body and encased it in the armor he wore, thus allowing the dark side to consume his useless body. Using the Force, the Sith Lord was able to keep his robes, armor and mask together, giving him some form while allowing him to use his Force powers as well as a lightsaber. Apart from that, he no longer had a physical form and became simple, primitive intent.[2]

The ghost part worked for Nihilus, though he was more about hunger than spite and ambition. Good point about newbie Nazgul not quite fitting well. So the Knights of Ren idea is nixed. Corrupted ancient Sith ghosts or worshipers makes more sense, then.

>>51324100
this picture always makes me smile.

inquisitors are great because depending on how you need them, they can range from quirky miniboss squad to big bad for your campaign.

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>>51324153
My game has this guy, who's a sentient force-shark thing. A natural dark side user, he hunts and eats other force-sensitive beings because they taste good.

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>Trying to watch Toronto Regional
>Casters don't know the rules
>Casters literally cannot count

>>51324314
link?

>>51324460
Twitch: VTTV live
End of round 3 of 6, and players are starting to show fatigue-mistakes.

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>>51320075
>Vader's a badass edition

>>51324502
How did that happen?

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>>51324538
Crits, man. Fucking crits.

>>51324501
You ain't kiddding.
I just caught the ending of that game and I could tell the Scum player was screwing up

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>Group of Pathfinder players I want to get to try Age of Rebellion
>One is up for anything and likes Star Wars
>Another is a whiny shit that will go with whatever the group wants, also likes Star Wars
>One is stupid and will play anything as long as he gets to try and be a murderhobo, indifferent to Star Wars
>The last is the only hard no and his justification is that "space makes no sense, everything should be on the ground", hates Star Wars and has only ever even seen Episodes II and VII.
How do I convince them? Also, tips on letting a murderhobo think he's murderhoboing while keeping him reigned in and not fucking up the experience for the others?

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>>51322580
>>51322809
Personally, I always just assumed that clones were elite units that made up about 20% of the GAR, its just that we only ever saw clones because they worked so heavily with the Jedi. But yeah, for non-essential missions, you saw a mix of local planetary forces, and human republic troopers.

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>>51323634
There is a precedent in the EU and current canon for force ghosts of the darkside, in saying that they're not quite like the force ghosts of jedi but a manifestation of the darkside which mimics those it takes the form of.
What you might look at as >>51323742 points out, they're not likely to be brought into being by a barely trained scrub like Ren, however...

They could come about through someone far more powerful in the force, finding an extremely corrupted source of the darkside and Ren acts as sort of a temporal anchor to him given his darkside fuckery, lineage and he simply tells them what to do. Course, how much they listen and what they can do are really up to the GM when it comes to the effects. Having spooky stuff in SW is kind of fun, when that blaster bolt sails clean through that creepy arsehole in the ratty robes, the look on the PC's face goes from 'you being serious' to 'poo is coming out now' when you nod and mention force lightning starts to crackling around.

Then just to be a dick, its now their face looking back at them from under the robes
This is usually why I'm "not allowed" to run horror games any more

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>>51324603
Tell the whiny little shit that he'd better keep a lid on it or find another GM. Give him the ol' eyebrow raise if he starts beaking off during game.

Fire the murderhobo.

Fire the "no space" idiot too. He'll either sabotage the game or just bitch the entire time.

Try and find 2 non-RPG players from your friend group or whatever. Ideally, one of them should be respected or well liked by the whiny player, so he'll start behaving.

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>>51324627

>>51324577
Wait, what's happening here? Did Oola get raped by the Rancor instead of eaten and deliver a baby for Malakiki to tend?

>>51324603
Play force and destiny on the planet where people crash landed that's basically classic fantasy. Keep him thinking it's just a fantasy campaign using the game rules, get him invested, then have them find a working ship or have the Empire invade when it's too late for him to ditch and he cares too much about his character and the game

>>51324659
The man has tits on his helmet.

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>>51324603

Sodomize them all to assert your dominance

>>51324659
>General Kenobi, this is demeaning
>Stop

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>>51324663
Who says being eaten by the Rancor is deadly? Once you get past those teeth it's fairly soft going.

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>>51324669
This is a stupid idea.

Games are about collective storytelling and bargaining. You can't tell your players "We're playing a lighthearted fantasy game about mischievous goblins and cute little fairies, like a cartoon." and the switch to Berzerk three sessions in without their consent. It's not what they signed up for.

What are some good ways to make interesting rival/boss fights with the FFG system?

>>51320612
>A couple of changes to the motivations and methods of the Empire (and the Emperor) would be plenty to definitively give them the moral high ground they arguably already have.
They blow up planets. They're fucking monsters

>>51323574

Oh, man, I once had to run a game set on a dark-side influenced planet, during the OT era, so I just decided to make it the planet of Hammer Horror (and a fair amount of Bloodborne, as well).

You had creepy forests filled with dark-side mutated beasts, ancient-but-not-abandoned Sith castles, tiny superstitious little villages that still fear the old rulers of the planet, dark cults around every corner, and to top it all off, an ancient sith temple deep under the ocean, whose ancient guardians began to mate with villagers from a seaside town.

It was easily my players favorite location in the campaign.

>>51324603
>tips on letting a murderhobo think he's murderhoboing while keeping him reigned in and not fucking up the experience for the others
B1 battledroids and/or other weak minions for him to chew through might sate him. Also judicious use of flipping darkside points and extra obligation (Wanted) to help edge him towards not attacking everything

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>>51324808
See:
>>51315915
>>51315995
>>51316102
>>51316195
>>51316237
>>51316256
>>51316314

>>51324603
>space makes no sense, everything should be on the ground
Star wars does do space poorly, ignoring things like zero friction environments, hilariously close ranges instead of solid slugs or guided weapons from maximum sensor range, etc, but I doubt you've been playing skubfinder in the tippyverse, so his whole point is moot.

Start them off on a planet without a ship so they'll appreciate space when they finally get there.

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>>51324891
It's a space opera setting. You could use oars in space for god's sake - it /really/ doesn't matter.

>>51324904
Yes, that is what I said. If they were used to HARD scifi then he'd have at least most of a leg to stand on, as is he's a faggot.

>>51324858
Thanks, man

>>51321604
Thanks man, I was actually about to ask again in this thread and saw your post. Any expansion packs in particular you would recommend picking up? I was going to grab Jabba at the very least if only to paint him

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>>51324634
>when that blaster bolt sails clean through
>blaster bolts are made of plasma
>fire is a kind of plasma
>Nazgul fucking hate fire
You just reminded me of another potential issue with adapting spooky jewelry ghosts into Star Wars. To make them scary, they need to be immune or ridiculously resistant to blasters and other common energy weapons. Would they, then, also be fire-resistant? Or would the symbolic, primordial significance of regular old fire somehow be different from fighting with a blaster? Should they also be immune to regular lightsabers? And if so, how would they be affected by a lightsaber with a Barab ingot or something else that amplifies their incendiary capabilities?

>>51325085
Make them fearful or averse to things strong in the untainted Force. Pure and placid places, or the lightsaber of an ancient Jedi Master should scare them, even if aren't lethal to them.

>>51324794
>You can't tell your players "We're playing a lighthearted fantasy game about mischievous goblins and cute little fairies, like a cartoon." and the switch to Berzerk three sessions in without their consent. It's not what they signed up for.
You can, but they may not be aboard for the ride.

>>51325085
It destabilizes their manifestation, and depending on what hits them has different effects

Blaster bolts leave holes in them, but it takes a shit ton to get them to leave.

Sabers are more effective, and slashing off their head or bisecting them causes them to shriek and dissipate much more rapidly.

Travel wise, they can turn to a shadowy smoke, and can hide in the shadows, meaning they can sneak into a freighter without being seen, corrupt the pilots and force them to go wherever it is they need to go. Too bad this is fatal and leaves the pilot dead and bleeding from every orifice of their head when their shadowy corruption leaves, meaning they can't just have one ship and go from there. You can send them out into space, but it won't kill them. They'll simply find another way into your ship if you don't immediately jump into hyperspace, or just make their way into another ship. Space travel is easy for them, they just can't jump like ships can. And most people won't notice the tendrils of oily black smoke creeping onto the hull of their ship, traveling between the panels into the guts of the machine. I just hope you keep up on basic maintenance, otherwise that steaming pipe will lead to your death

>>51325355
And I'd say they're connected to ancient Sith artifacts, as guardians and as teachers

>episode all about lightsabers
>which are basically magic katanas

imokaywiththis

>>51325840
Jedi have always been a lazy adaptation of space samurai.

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>>51325848
I would love to see a proper Japanese remake, "Ran"-style, of the OT. Burning castles, a mighty black-robed warrior, etc. The "Death Star" is replaced with an imported canon capable of shattering a castle's walls.

>>51325848
>lazy adaptation of space samurai.
that's not really a fair description.
They are modeled after samurai, like r2d2 and 3cp0 are inspired by farmers.

You got a lot of other influences thrown in there. They're basically anything spritual, like the Force is basically the concept of spirituality in all it's forms.
You'll find monk, druid and shamanistic traits to them too if you care to look.

And Lightsabers are more than just Katanas. The Inquisitor in Rebels was more of a fencer using his blade like a Rapier.
Doublesided blades are used like Jos and Bos etc. pp.

I take mostly issue with the word lazy here, though.

>>51322809
>>51323069
>>51324627
my question wasn't why there aren't clone soldiers, there are reasons for that but why the guy was suggesting that it makes more sense for the empire to 'hate' clones more than aliens.

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>>51325909
>a proper Japanese remake, "Ran"-style, of the OT
The Hidden Fortress sounds like it would be right up your alley.

>>51325941
The force and jedi clearly take from the far east, but don't hold up under inspection. The layman would understand the light and dark sides of the force to behave like the yin and yang, but Lucas didn't feel like doing any research, so it really bears no resemblance. Call what you like, but I call it lazy.

Other writers have tried to salvage it, but it be what it do when you're not producing for the mainstream outlet.

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>>51325973
Well, I mean, obviously, but it's not exactly a remake.

I want all the weird neo-anachronisms. I want R2D2 to be an Irish dwarf who doesn't speak Japanese, and Chewbacca to be a really hairy guy from the north who only grunts.

>>51326124
>R2D2 as an Irish dwarf

Goes well with the foul language he's (probably) throwing around. Who would C3P0 be in this case?

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>>51326156
Prissy official or potentially a taikomochi.

>>51326156
The British scholar/interpreter

>>51326156
A displaced and poncy courtier who knows foreign languages?

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Anyone else given these ship design worksheets a try?

Just select one shape off each page and mash them together to build the outline of your new ship.

>>51326050
If by 'salvage' you mean fundamentally misunderstand it sure.

Equating the Force and the dark side to ying and yang is something people cannot seem to stop doing even though its just not how its supposed to work.

Cool ideas for a Legacy Era (>136ABY) FaD campaign?

>>51326657
MANDALORIAN UPRISING

Saw this list at the Toronto Regionals and I wanna know what you guys think of it

Miranda Doni [Twin Laser Turret, Extra Munitions, Homing Missiles, Sabine Wren, Ion Bombs, Conner Net, Advanced SLAM] (52)

Gold Squadron Pilot [Twin Laser Turret] (24) x 2

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>>51326755
REMEMBER BOTAJEF. DEATH TO THE BETRAYERS. VODE AN.

>>51320325
He was an actual gentleman, and a /tg/ lad through and through. RO has my undying love without even considering the 3rd act just because they revived him for the time of a movie. It's as close to a proper hommage as you can get.

>>51323570
And on Scarif they put up quite a fight as well.

Basically they're good when not fighting plot armor personnified.

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>>51327094
I'd love to see a film where a digitally resurrected Cushing - with memories intact - discovers he has sentience and exists to act in more films. It's a horror film that eventually turns out to be a meta-horror film, because we're watching a film about Cushing trying to escape the film he's already in.

Alternatively, Cushing is delighted to discover that he's immortal.

>>51327613
>he's immortal
>his wife isn't
Delighted isn't the word I'd use.

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>>51324603
>One is stupid and will play anything as long as he gets to try and be a murderhobo, indifferent to Star Wars
What kind of campaign are you going to set up for them?
I'd think a rebel cell that took on more wetwork than subtle subterfuge would be able to accommodate a lot of PC murderhobo-ing, but I don't know your players.

>>51324669
>>51324794
I'd love to be a player in both of these settings, minus the DM deceptions.

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>>51327676
Well, see, he'll have plenty of time to figure out how to solve that problem.

Alternatively, enough time to get revenge.

>TFW Somebody designs your X-Wing list, but better

>>51327613
Or, imagine this.
Digitally resurrected Peter Cushing, Cristopher Lee and Vincent Price team up to try and escape the horror flick.
It could be the sequel of your film, with the first one being called "The actor" and the second one as "The actors".

>tfw you hate all of the EotE starting ships but don't know enough about the EU to suggest better alternatives
>the ship you do know and love is inexplicably a two-seater which makes it impractical for most groups
>you don't have a group anyway so all this is meaningless

kill me

>>51328346

I'm a little upset that the Firespray is a starting option. Aren't there like six of those in canon?

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>>51328346
See: >>51326545

Just build your own.

>>51324627
This would also make far more sense than the Kaminoans producing a galaxy busting army while trading with no one, seriously why don't they rule the galaxy?

>>51328542
Because they are weird aliens?

Seriously, not everyone wants to rule things.

>>51328582
But they're literally the best at armies, you don't get like that by accident or if you do how? More so how do you do it while talking and trading with no one? How did they do any of it?

Fuck everything else, the Kaminoans are the single biggest plot hole in Star Wars history.

>>51328400

Nah, KSE starts making them again after Boba/Jango makes it cool.

>>51328346
Just look around in the other books, senpai.

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>>51328542
>Kaminoans producing a galaxy busting army
They can produce the manpower, but everything else comes from non-Kaminoan corporations. To get that army to do anything useful, you also need starships, body armor, ground vehicles, clothing, food, firearms, ammunition, medicine, porn, cigarettes, stimulants, and knifehands. All of those came from off-world suppliers.

>>51328400
>Recently, KSE re-introduced the Firespray to market in response to increased demand for law enforcement and patrol vessels from Imperial controlled worlds. The new ships are built from the plans for the original six prototypes, albeit with the benefit of three decades of advancement in shipbuilding technology. Thanks to growing demand and an aggressive advertising campaign, the new ships are a hot commodity among law enforcement agencies, bounty hunters,and even some smugglers and pirates.
Right outa the rulebook.

>>51328836
Now you've got me wondering what Kaminoan porn is like

>>51328865
It's a terrible ship for most groups, though.

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>>51328927

>>51328346
give them a squad of headhunters, which they bought from jawas

>>51329000

10/10

>>51328836
Yeah but how? We see them getting suited up and holding their weapons on Kamino, they already had that shit despite somehow being almost totally isolated from the galaxy.

Furthermore they show up on Geonosis fully suited with artillery, tanks and gunships. When was this equipment ordered? How was it delivered? Best of all who was posing as the buyer and getting it all the way to the planet that didn't exist?

Kaminoans are more bullshit than a Jedi Prince riding a Suncrusher into the heart of the Yuuzhan Vong fleet.

>>51329132
they had commissioned that army some time prior, apparently

EotE > FaD > AoR

This is fact.

>>51329160
>only have Age of rebellion
oops?

>>51329147
But.
How?

How can they both be invisible yet ordering enough arms and armour to conquer half a galaxy?

>>51329178
kamino has a whole business regarding clones, so its not like they dont have normal customers, nothing looks like it grows on kamino so they should import things quite often, they probably just yelled to their suppliers "find some way to give more things"

>>51329160
>be smuggler
>get caught up in the rebellion
>find out you're force sensitive
Why not all three?

>>51329215
>kamino has a whole business regarding clones
But.
How?

How you you appear on no official database yet also also make the best clones in the galaxy and export them frequently?

>>51329234
the records were apparently tampered with

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>>51326755
>>51327026

That's a decent idea, especially considering the Legacy mando plotline was never finished, with...uh...whathisface wanting to go after the betrayer Mand'alor but it never went anywhere after that

>>51329132
>who was posing as the buyer
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sifo-Dyas

>>51329267
The Jedi archives' Kamino files were erased and somehow, nobody noticed until Obi-Wan started investigating. And somehow, nobody kept backups of the data either.

>>51329267
I really don't think there's an answer here beyond "Yes, that is plot hole."

>>51329302
without scarif, there is nowhere to place backups

>>51329296
Yeah for the clones, was he buying enough arms and armour to make Stalin blush as well?

>>51329346
yes

>>51320406
Fun fact about that: Carrie Fisher couldn't stop laughing during the destruction of Alderaan scene because he was wearing fuzzy pink slippers. She had trouble being afraid of him

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>>51326545
Here is my go at a SW ship. Im not sure what the ship is used for, but I suppose the handles of the hammers could be weapons. Maybe a fast attack craft? or a speedy shuttle?

>>51329320
It's explicitly stated in Attack of the Clones that the records were tampered with. I'd say you should watch it again, but so much of it is shit.

>>51329346
By the time Kenobi arrives they only have 200,000 troopers ready, and I can't imagine it's that hard to source materiel in a galaxy that big and tumultuous.

>>51329360
That makes zero sense, where did they money come from? How did no one notice? Who is even making that many guns when not on a war footing?

>>51329389
>It's explicitly stated in Attack of the Clones that the records were tampered with.
I know that but it's still nonsense? You can't just hide a trading planet.

You're tasked with redoing the Prequel films. The broadt strokes must stay the same - the Clone War features prominently, Obi-Wan and Anakin are our main characters, the Separatists are our main baddie, Vader happens at the end - but other than that, you can go nuts.

What do?

>>51329390
>Who is even making that many guns when not on a war footing?
BlasTech. They're an arms manufacturer and they sell to an entire galaxy's worth of consumers. A few hundred thousand guns is barely a blip on their records. That sort of purchase can be easily disguised as a sale to a small planetary defense militia.

>>51329435
Oddly enough the underpinnings of the plot isn't too bad. Give the first draft to a competent writer/director and it might not turn out half bad

>>51329435
Let the TCW guys handle the writing, their versions of the characters are way more fun.

>>51329389
>It's explicitly stated in Attack of the Clones that the records were tampered with.
If it's a well-known and widely famed planet with a galaxy-wide reputation, deleting the records from ONE FUCKING LIBRARY shouldn't make everyone magically forget it exists.

>>51329435
Anakin has a biological father somewhere, none of that conceived by midi-chlorians bullshit, Anakin and Padme lay low on Tatooine with Owen instead of on Naboo, Shmi gets shot doing farm things while Anakin is getting sandy with Padme, remove the whole gladiatorial arena, replace it with a traditional firing squad.

Let me know if I forgot something awful or fucked something.

>>51329596
>remove the whole gladiatorial arena, replace it with a traditional firing squad.
I'll upgrade that one for you: they're taken into the hellhole that is the Geonosian Hives to be executed. The clones, led by Yoda and the Jedi Order, attack from up top. The confusion allows Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Padme to escape. During their escape they're cornered by Dooku, which is where they get fucked and Anakin loses his hand. Obi-Wan then fights Dooku off himself, because holy shit he needs to not job at least once in that movie.

Yoda's focus is on him serving as general and his uneasiness at the violence of this role and how well he takes to it.

Mace fucks up Jango and leaves him for the Geonosians to eat, doubling little Boba's trauma.

Also focus more on Obi-Wan and Anakin's friendship. They consult with each other about what the fuck Kamino is before Obi-Wan leaves. Anakin volunteers to guard Padme instead of being an insipid emo shit that kicks around whining about sand. Show some scenes of Obi-Wan instructing Anakin, and Anakin using some of that instruction during the film.

The youngling that helps lead Yoda and Obi-Wan to Kamino is Ahsoka.

>>51322809
>>51322580
the kamino facilities revolted and as a result the emperor distrusted the use of clones

>>51329670
>They consult with each other about what the fuck Kamino is before Obi-Wan leaves.
That's just the thing, famalam, they had no fucking idea what Kamino was. Kenobi was as shocked as anyone that they were making clone troopers.

>>51329435
Ep I
Anakin is not from Tatooine, he's from Naboo. He's a servant boy in a palace and Sheev's favourite. The film will have him in his late teens or very early twenties because fuck child actors, can we please make him and Padmie not look a decade apart. Ep I is then pretty much fine but for the details.

Sheev wants to create a diplomatic incident that will allow him a meteoritic rise to power and he's Ani his ace in the hole for later training, his plan goes off the rails though when loose cannon Jin survives the assassination attempt and come across Ani by chance. I like the set up of Ani having know Sheev for a long time because I feel it would add a bit more to the theme of him being pulled in multiple directions.

There's still an on the run adventure to get to the capitol, still have pod racing because it was dank just make it shorter, make the space battle a little grander because capitol ship action was always the best bits.

But here's my kicker, the Trade Federation uses clones not droids. Still torn on whether both sides should use clones or just the seps, not sure if it better do both and have it as a metaphor of the dehumanisation of soldiers or have the B-1s be the good guys because I'm actually in love with them.

>>51329435
Resolve the entire plot in the first five minutes of episode I

The rest is just porn

>>51329744
the sides should look and act really different, to tell them apart at a glance

the clones vs droids is somethign to keep so that there is a clear distinction between the two sides

but droids are way cooler than clones, so make the droids good guys

>>51329782
You son of a bitch, how can anyone compete with that?

>>51329744
Nah, you're a fag. Anakin's slavery was a huge part of his childhood, and there is no slavery on Naboo. Also the seppie droids were the perfect cheap but numerous troops for the trade federation to occupy planets with. If the Jedi hadn't gotten involved Naboo would've been fucked.

That said, there should've been a chassis upgrade between Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones. WWII Germany went from biplanes to jets in a decade, let's see some tech advances, Lucas.

>>51329835
no point in upgrading perfection, the B1 is about as good as bulk infantry will ever bet

the B2 is the nominal upgrade, but they never fully replaced the B1

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>>51329858
>perfection

>>51329835
>Anakin's slavery was a huge part of his childhood
Okay but can we just not enslave him on Tatooine? I just want it this way so he gets a relationship with Sheev in a timely fashion.

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>>51324082
What is the difference between inquisitors and imperial hands? And Vader isnt either, but still a force user of authority. Was there some form of Sith competitiveness? Like the usual bid for powergames stuff? Downlow murder of the weak with the emporer keeping all the dogs in line?

>>51329435

Delete everything from Episode 1 except for the Maul fight, keep the general beats the same but make Greivous more like his Tartakovsky take and put Ventress in the films, cut way back on CGI and make the visual aesthetics more lile the OT.

>>51329977
>more like the OT
i think they wanted to make the PT shiny and chrome to contrast the OT, not blend in with it

>>51329977
>put Ventress in the films
Why in the bittersweet fuck would you want to do something that fucking stupid?

>>51329960
>Was there some form of Sith competitiveness?
Rule of Two, senpai. Anyone who isn't Palps or Vader doesn't get to be Sith, but you may as well do something with the pliable force-sensitives you've got.

>>51329977
You're a fag, too. Pod racing was cool and it gave Anakin a way to practice with the force before he got picked up by Qui-gon.

>>51329960
It's a matter of role, essentially. The Emperor's Hands answer only to Palpatine, while the Inquisitors answer to both Palpatine and Vader as well as possibly non-Force sensitive leaders as well.

Inquisitors tend to be more like their namesake, rooting out troublemakers, while the Hands tend to be more into the wetwork type stuff.

>>51329998
>i think they wanted to make the PT shiny and chrome to contrast the OT, not blend in with it
>shiny and chrome
But the only ones riding eternal are the Mandos.

>>51330052
Alternatively, the Inquisitors are cannon, the emperor's hands are not.

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>>51329435
Replace TPM with the Weird Al music video. Then hire Weird Al to turn AotC into another music video. RotS is handed off to a team led by Hideo Kojima, Matthew Stover, Timothy Zahn, Michael Stackpole, and Chris Roberts.

>>51329435
Play up the romance between padme and anakin to make it more real, and slightly more tragic than "oh n0es side bae" when the fall apart.

Drop phantom menace, to make it the openning salvo in the clonewars, instead of border dispute. Make anakin older on discovery, and play up a combination of unwanted teacbers pet and outcast due to his age and natural skill.

More jedi relations, and have anakin really be the mover and shaker he whines about being in ep2, calling into judgment the ongoing existence of slavery, political dogma and even the force implications of using "fake" sentients to fight a war.

Have the "from my point of view the jedi are evil" ideal be legitimate to the characters, and audience.

>>51330184
>Play up the romance between padme and anakin
That's what half of AotC was.

>border dispute
"Trade dispute." The attack on Pearl Harbor was the result of a trade dispute, are trade disputes not interesting enough for you?

>have anakin really be the mover and shaker he whines about being in ep2
He really can't. He's never a master and he's really only on the council in name so they can get the inside scoop on palps.

>>51320075

Hey /swg/, I'm currently planning an AoR campaign centered around a Wraith Squadron-esque starfighter/commando team, acting as a rapid-response unit stationed aboard a Neb-B. I've got five PCs, but rather than simply fill out the rest of the roster from the get-go, I want them to expand the squadron over time by recruiting some of the NPCs they meet on their missions. I've already brainstormed a few potential squadmates by myself, but do you guys have any suggestions?

>>51330416
To avoid potential redundancy, what recruits have you already thought up?

Any chance of FFG doing a writeup for the Cathar somewhere? I'd love to see them in FaD.

>>51330742
They're in the unofficial species menagerie. They're not particularly standout, so I can't imagine your DM wouldn't allow it.

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>>51329435
>Episode 1
NO Midiclorians
Age up Anakin a little maybe go with something like this >>51329744
Give Maul a little more dialog so he isn't just a silent Sith killing machine
Jar Jar is not retarded and the Gungans don't speak like they're in a fucking minstrel show
>Episode 2
Keep it largely the same
Cut out a majority of the Anakin/Padme romance shit, keep enough to service the movie but that shit was cringe as fuck and went on too long
Give Anakin more scenes with Sheeve to help establish the relationship
>Episode 3
Genddy Grievous
Mace has an extended fight with Sheeve
Anakin/Padme is kept secret because of her political career and not because Jedi bullshit - bring up Ki Adi Mundi having like 5 wives

>>51322706
Wait what? For which game?

>>51331034
>Anakin/Padme is kept secret because of her political career and not because Jedi bullshi
Passion is literally the highway to the dark side. Chaste jedi is a good thing.

>>51331242
attchment is the issue.
You can hump em and dump em like no tomorrow as long as you don't give a fuck.
It's cynical and that is why the jedi order was corrupt as yoda and windu put it.
Teaching the Jedi to control their emotions instead of suppressing them would have been way more helpful to people like Anakin, who were struggling with the lifestyle.

>>51331313
Which is the whole point and part of the reason they collapse, because they're so far up their own arse about their philosophies and preaching they can't see what's right under their noses.

It was just communicated very fucking poorly, like everything else in the PT.

>>51331242
I feel like sexual frustration is way more likely to make someone turn to the dark side than having a gf.

>>51331409
Why not just get super advanced space sexbots?

>>51331440
Because droids work for the Separatists and will assassinate you in your sleep.

>>51331440
Guri.

>>51331488
>R2D2 works for the Separatists
>C3P0 works for the Separatists
I'm unconvinced.

So, I'm guessing Revan is never going to move out of the Legends Category huh?

>>51331508
probably for the better honestly

>>51331034
>wanting Maul to not be a silent Sith killing machine

you and your bad taste need to fucking die

>>51331508
They've touched on the Mandalorian Wars. The best you can really hope for is a mention of her name, but I wouldn't count on the star forge becoming canon again, or anything like that.

>>51331508

I'm dreaming of an Anthology film, but it'll never happen.

>tfw just played KOTOR and KOTOR2 for the first time back to back and was immediately crushed by them not being canon

SAGA was a shit game but I wish FFG would do setting books like it did.

>>51331514
Don't see why it would have any major effects on the current cannon.

This shit happened way before Darth Vader killed his first Sandraider.

>>51331564
I meant more that if they do it in any way more than a passing namedrop I don't trust the new material enough not to fuck him into oblivion.

>>51323838
Out of my love for FATE-core, I read this. It looks like a very decent makeover. I like the idea of only using the classic 'Star Wars' feeling generated by the original film (and Rogue One). If I had any suggestions, it would be to flesh out the 'alien characters' section with some suggestions for aliens we see in the two films (Wookies, Mon Cal, etc...)

Spelling errors:
>If you have seen at least on of those two films
Should be 'one of those two films'

>>51331544

>but I wouldn't count on the star forge becoming canon again, or anything like that.
>Starkiller base eats stars
>Rakata Prime on the official TFA map for some reason

>>51331508
According to /tv/, Rey is going to become a Revan equivalent in Episode VIII.

>>51331626
I don't see how, unless she had her mind wiped before she was dumped on Jakku. Admittedly, that might answer more questions than it would pose.

>>51331660
She was a Knight of Ren? Probably why she can access the force so fast.

>>51331508
Revan is mentioned by name in the F&D book, so I think he's canon to a degree.

>>51331679
The FFG RPGs are not canon. They are Legends with a sprinkling of canon material.

>>51331679

I made the same mistake.

>>51331668
And why she has that flashback of the Knights of Ren when she picks up the lightsaber.

>>51331519
I'm not saying he needs a monologue he just needs more than 3 lines

>>51331668
She can access the force quickly because she's a Skywalker. They are prodigious force-users, who can go from 'what's the force?' to reflecting laser bolts fired by a drone, while blindfolded, with only one day of loose guidance.

>>51331752
True, the force does run gammit with the Skywalkers.


Also who here thinks the Dark Side isn't necessarily evil?

>>51331773
>muh gray jedi
>>>/r/eddit

>>51320468

What a wonderful man

>>51331773

The Dark Side is corrupting by very nature but the Sith philosophy doesn't have to be evil.

>>51331508
Let's face it, Disney would never approve of a character who looks so similar to Kylo Ren, even if he existed first.

That said, Rakata Prime was quietly and inexplicably re-added in the episode 7 map, and the First Order seems eerily similar to the Sith fleet during the Jedi Civil War so who knows?

>>51331875
There's a Force user shown in an old hologram in the Obi-Wan & Anakin comic that looks suspiciously like Revan.

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>>51320325
What the fuck is going on with his eyes

>>51329435
>Movie 1
The Trade Federation is tricked by Palpatine/Sidious into attacking Alderaan (tying this in to the originals). Obi-Wan and Anakin are sent to stop it and there's some Viet Cong style guerrilla shit with the Gungans. Anakin meets Padme and waifus her. Confrontation with Darth Maul; Anakin proves himself. The Jedi are freaked out by a Sith turning up and send in the Republic's new clone army to end the occupation. The Separatists declare independence.

>Movie 2
Palpatine is appointed Chancellor and the Clone Wars are fought across numerous worlds. Padme gives birth to twins and hides them to avoid a scandal from fugging a Jedi. Anakin becomes deeply conflicted about the Jedi code. The Republic is winning the war, but Palpatine arranges for Grievous to mount a surprise invasion of Coruscant with the remnants of his army. He seizes the Senate while it's in session to force the Republic to accept the Separatists' terms. The Jedi intend to bombard the site from orbit to wipe out the Separatists and end the war. Anakin defies orders and tries to fight his way in to save Padme, but the strike is called in before he can reach her, leaving him horribly injured and Padme dead.

>Movie 3
Palpatine accuses the Jedi of taking out the Senate so that they could seize power, and celebrates Anakin as a hero. Anakin resigns from the Jedi Order but is gradually succumbing to his wounds. Palpatine is paying for the treatments to keep him alive while tutoring him in the dark side, but it's only a matter of time until Anakin needs a full life support suit. Obi-Wan is investigating how the Separatists made it to Coruscant and discovers the truth about Palpatine being a Sith lord. He tries to reveal the truth to Anakin, but Anakin is having none of it. They fight. Jedi Council tries to pull off a coup to take down Palpatine, but Anakin is there. His lightsaber is red. Only Obi-Wan and Yoda survive. The Empire is formed. Anakin puts on the mask and becomes Vader.

>>51329234
No one needed a clone army until now, also not everyone knows of kamino.

>>51331991
>attacking Alderaan (tying this in to the originals
REEEEE! Don't need so much fucking pottery!

>>51328927
Kaminoan husbands being cucked by aliens

>>51331991
>Gungans
>Padme
>Anakin
>anywhere near Alderaan

>>51332014
>implying a hutt wouldn't love to stomp all over Nar Shadaa with an army of clones

>>51332100
>>51332064
Naboo is some bullshit. How is it that a prosperous world where the Emperor himself is from doesn't get mentioned even once in the original series? If you made the pretty green paradise world from Episode I be Alderaan, it would make it all resonate so much more with the viewers.

>>51331978
He watched a billion people die.

You would have sad eyes like him.

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>>51330072
>But the only ones riding eternal are the Mandos

You know it ner vod

>>51332133
Because Naboo is just another rim world with dangerous animals and a 110% fucked political system.

>>51332133
Alderaan was supposed to be the seat of the Empire where Leia was taken after she's captured by Vader and Hand and Luke break her out of the floating capital city that would be recycled as Cloud City on Bespin.

>>51332133
Its a midrim world only known for its pretty art. Everyone knows that the coreworlds are the only important ones.

>>51332164
And RoTJ was supposed to be set during the Rebel invasion of the Imperial capital world with epic gothic architecture that makes 40k look tame, and two Death Stars in orbit.

Yeah, we all know the original concepts were cooler.

>>51332162
>>51332176
Check your privilege, Sithlord! The rim worlds are just as important as the core worlds!

>>51330606

Sure, fampai.

>Suskafoo, the Verpine engineer from WEG’s “Strike Force: Shantipole” module. Curious, overly-enthusiastic about the wider galaxy, has a bad habit of tinkering with machinery.

>Ex-podracer Xexto. Self-proclaimed “ladies’ man”, constantly brags about how “totally ripped” he is (he’s not). A good pilot, but overconfident to a fault.

>Seasoned Sullustian spacer, served with the Republic Navy during the Clone Wars and captained a tramp freighter for a few years afterwards. Very outgoing, always telling stories about “the war” or his adventures on the space-lanes.

>Rebellious young human noble from the Core. Has no real attachment to the Alliance, only joined to spite his aristocratic, pro-Imperial family. Way in over his head here.

>Rusted-out Vulture Droid, served for the duration of the Clone Wars before being shot down over an Outer Rim battlefield a few weeks before Order 66. Survived long enough to develop a mind of its own. Body transferred into a protocol droid’s, allowing it to fly other craft.

>>51332208
>posted as I elect a little girl and her collection of clawdites to the highest office on the planet

>>51329435
Anakin is an enslaved engineer that works besides his father on some Outer Rim hellhole. His mother works in the shop selling parts to customers. Eventually, while saving his mother from some scumbag trying to hold up the shop, Anakin awakens to his Force powers. When his owner notices this, he immediately tries to sell Anakin to someone for a premium. His parents aren't having it and Anakin's owner shoots the kid's father when the latter tries to interrupt the deal, figuring that even if he loses the one slave, he can buy another with the money he earns on Anakin's sale.
Anakin swears revenge, eventually becomes a podracer of note and his owner frees him (so he doesn't have to pay for the injury) after an injury due to a crash that costs Anakin his arm. Now one arm down and having to spend all of his hidden stash and old favors to buy a new one, Anakin tries to rent himself out as a pilot before coming across both Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, who's on a mission to investigate the Trade Federation in the area. After they realize the development of the Speratists in the area, Qui-Gon is killed in combat with Darth Maul and Anakin manages to use the Force to distract the Sith long enough for Obi-Wan to land a decisive blow. Obi-Wan recognizes both Anakin's incredible potential and his anger, and after Anakin's head for trickery and cunning save the day, he appeals to the Jedi council for Anakin to be accepted as a Jedi and eventually a Knight. C-3PO is probably introduced here.
Once he becomes a Jedi Knight, Anakin manages to advance very quickly through ranks, his naivete placing him in the favor of Naboo- Queen Padme considers him a darling, and he meets up with Palpatine while looking for a mentor in the overwhelming complexity of the Clone Wars' political climate. Count Dooku, Yoda's traitorous apprentice and an ally to the Separatists, attempts to kidnap the Queen, and succeeds well enough such that Anakin and Obi-Wan are sent after her.

>>51331991
I like the idea of stretching out Anakin's fall to the dark side over a few movies, but I'm not sure about replacing Naboo with Alderaan. What about Senator Bail Organa?.

Ok, so... One of my Players wants to take over as GM for our FFG campaign, because he's fallen in love with the system. That means I finally get to make myself a character!

So... going Human, starting Obligation is 5. Starting credits is 750.

What's the best way to go about building a FUN Slicer/Mechanic with the "Pulling Random Items out of your ass" ability and crafting EVERYTHING. I want a Gear/Tech based Skillmonkey.

What's your favorite FFG Career?

>>51329952
Oh so you want pedophilia.

>>51332216
Do any of these work?
>Tiger: A Corellian volunteer who flew with a Rebel cell in Neimoidian space. Bears a blood chit that marks his and his cell's allegiance to the Neimoidian Nationalists fighting Imperial occupation. Quiet, well versed in ground work, and paranoid after getting shot down and spending weeks being hunted by Imp patrols.

>Slick: Hotshot test pilot who showed up with an experimental A-wing, assigned to field test it alongside the PCs' fleet. He's a damn good pilot (in the simulators) and incredibly arrogant, but completely untested in actual combat because his orders also include keeping the A-wing in the hangar except for testing purposes.

>Chevalier: Alderaanian noble with a strong French accent. Classy, proud, and unbroken. He follows a personal code of honor in the void and has the skills to make it work, though some of his compatriots criticize him for doing shit like saluting enemy aces and letting critically damaged TIEs escape.

>Rockstar: A cyborg who used to be a Sienar test pilot with the injuries, psychoses, and drug addictions to show for it. Quit after medics had to kickstart his heart following his sixth overdose. Unpredictable, questionably sane, and often insubordinate, Rebel High Command keeps him around due to his encyclopedic knowledge of TIE craft and their weaknesses/quirks.

>>51332652
Technician: Cybertech?

If you want real synergy play a Gank.

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>>51320075
That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork DL-44t" bullshit that's going on in the d20/Saga system right now. The E-11 Blaster Rifle deserves much better than that. Much, much better than that.
I should know what I'm talking about. I myself acquired E-11s in the Mid Rim for 900 credits and have been practicing with them for almost 2 years now. I can even shoot through droids of solid durasteel with my E-11s.
BlasTech smiths spend years working on a single E-11 and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blasters known to the galaxy.
E-11s are thrice as sharp as DL-44 and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a DL-44 can shoot through, a E-11 can shoot through better. I'm pretty sure a E-11s could easily bisect Alderaan wearing full plate with a simple laser volley.
Ever wonder why the Old Republic took so long to fall? That's right, the Separatists were too scared to fight the disciplined Republic Army and their E-11s of destruction. Even after the Galactic Civil War, Rebels targeted the Stormtroopers with E-11s first because their killing power was feared and respected.
So what am I saying? E-11s are simply the best ships that the galaxy has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for E-11s:
(E-11s)
3d10 Damage
13-20 x4 Crit
+5 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork
Now that seems a lot more representative of the laser power the E-11, don't you think?
tl;dr = E-11 need to do more damage in d20/Saga, see my new stat block.
Pic Related: Me and My E-11

>>51332689
Tech

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>>51332693

>>51332778
I knew it, Sith pervert!

>>51332532
Wanted to mention that under this change, C-3PO was still made by Anakin (and his father) before Anakin was resold- the droid was captured by the Seperatists and C-3PO helps the three men and serves as comic relief and later a servant of Anakin and Padme.
R2-D2 snuck aboard and freed Padme, but they're still in Seperatist territory when this happens. Once Anakin hijacks the systems to communicate their location to the Republic, Dooku catches wind and explains his motivations to Anakin while they duel, also pointing out to Obi-Wan that he was Qui-Gon's teacher. They are able to recover Padme once the saber duel is over, and the Republic's entrance into Seperatist airspace sets off the first main battle of the war, with Anakin showing off his excellent piloting here.
Feeling a little bit hot-blooded after a successful venture, Anakin demands an explanation as to why Dooku turned to the Dark Side from the Council, but none of the reasons they give satisfy him, making him believe the Council doesn't actually care about the Jedi they relegate. Here, we see time pass with regards to the Clone Wars and Anakin gain a lot of combat and political experience. This period of time is where a lot of his interactions with Palpatine and Padme take place, falling in love both with the Queen and the ideals of the hidden Sith Lord. The clone army is also constructed and displayed here. Anakin and Obi-Wan leave to confront Dooku and Grevious respectively, while Padme gets a few scenes indicating that she's trying to negotiate within the Senate and is slowly becoming aware of Palpatine's true nature. After Dooku gets into Anakin's head a bit more during their fight, demanding that Anakin see that the Jedi are corrupt. During the fight, Dooku hits a few hot buttons and Anakin strikes him down in a rage, before recovering from the incident and being horrified of what he's done. He probably stares at his metallic hand in horror, recognizing that he's becoming more unfeeling.

>>51332693
To be fair, Padme already pedo'd Anakin pretty hard in the prequels.

>>51332861
She was only 4 or 5 years older and, I liked that Anakin went for the older bitches, shows taste. :P

The real problem with the PT is that it's like 5 tv show arcs in a 2 hour movie per movie.

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>>51332861
She didn't show any of that kind of interest when they first met, and when they finally got together he was nineteen and she was twenty four. Hardly pedo.

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>>51332197
>two Death Stars in orbit.
>mfw imagining how balls-to-the-wall crazy that scene would have been in XWA or Rogue Leader
Jesus. If two Death Star runs made Wedge a living legend, imagine the effect a third kill mark would have on the panties of women across the galaxy.

>>51332897
>>51332950
Really? It looked like she was at least 10 years older than Anakin in Episode I.

>>51333099
Anakin was nine in TPM, she was fourteen. AotC is ten years later.

>>51333099
Natalie might have been but legit Padme was 14 and Anakin 9, No pedo at all.

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>>51333099
Nigga, you're dumb. This is not the face of a woman who is at or nearly 20.

>>51333128
To be fair, Natalie actually was 17/18 at the time the film was being made, and actually did skip the red carpet premiere for TPM to study for her high school finals.

Is there any full PDF for the campaign missions beyond the core set for Imperial assault? Mostly because I can only play it on Tabletop Sim with friends, and I'm not gonna drop 50 dollary doos per expansion to just use the book.

>>51332835
>*After that,
Anakin once again demands an explanation from the Council, who start to notice that he's letting his anger get the better of him and tell him so. He declares that he thinks he should be angry about their treatment of him, causing him to be dismissed. Infuriated and unable to be swayed by Obi-Wan, he goes to speak to Palpatine, who sees that the time is right and reveals a hint of his nature to Anakin.
Padme is shown to be pregnant at this time, and horrified with what's going on in the Senate. After Palpatine becomes the new Supreme Chancellor and claims emergency powers, Padme tries to convince Anakin that the man can't be trusted, Obi-Wan backing her up on this point. Anakin isn't hearing it, and Anakin pleads for Padme to just give Palpatine a chance. Not long after, the Council confronts Sheev and Anakin protects the Chancellor, refusing to stand down. This scene, where Anakin and Sheev are attacked by Jedi, is the final point at which the mistrust between the Council and Anakin reaches its breaking point. After Windu and the Jedi sent after Palpatine are killed, the Chancellor dubs Anakin Vader, and sends Anakin after the remainder of the Seperatists while Palpatine initiates Order 66 under the cover that the Jedi are traitors to the Republic. Padme goes after Anakin hoping to persuade him, and Obi-Wan tags along. Obi-Wan and Anakin stand off, and when Anakin loses his cool and uses Force Lightning, Obi-Wan deflects it and one of the bolts hits Padme. Obi-Wan is horrified, and Anakin flies into an inhuman rage over seeing the woman he loves apparently drop dead while carrying his children. The fight on Mustafar occurs, and Anakin disowns both Obi-Wan and himself, probably with a terrible, tear-filled exchange like:
>"Anakin, we can still save Padme! Come to your senses!"
>"Padme is dead, Obi-Wan... And so is Anakin! The Jedi have killed them both!"
Then the whole limb removal fiesta happens and Obi-Wan leaves. Tie up loose knots, end.

>>51333128
She kinda didn't hit puberty till she went to Harvard. weird.

>>51324810
>blowing up planets makes you a monster
>so we'll blow up your small moon sized battlestation with a similarly huge number of people who are just there to keep things livable
Alderaan was honestly one of the worst places in the galaxy and their leaders were traitors from the start. It was a mercy.

>>51320612

You can make the Empire an effective reasonable force filled with reasonable humans without having to pretend it's not evil. The Nazis famously did all sorts of evil things without mustache twirlers and had a lot of people fighting for them that did so for really pure reasons. All it takes is a bit of distance, a bit of denial, a bit of justification and having the evil concentrated to limited areas.

Palpatine can also happily stay a full blown Sith, just don't bring it up. The rumors surrounding him would be totally outrageous and easily dismissed as Separatist/Rebel propaganda anyway.

The Senate was monstrously corrupt and slow and bloated. The rise of the Empire is so fucking easy to justify. A dictator is a fucking breath of fresh air to many compared to the stodgy, slimy Senate.

You can easily do the human supremacy stuff for regular joes - just look at America. The country is full of genuine, noble people who help their neighbours who also think that having too many Hispanics around threatens the 'Americanness' of America. They'll tell you they think Mexicans are mostly great people, but they should stick to their own country. Grassroots Nationalistic ideas are perfect for this stuff. Just have most humans get the idea that the Senate is either an intrinsically human institution or that Alien races have less noble values and shouldn't be in charge. You don't have to make everyone in the Empire an advocate of genocide, you just have to have a society that's primed to turn a blind eye to the particular abuses of minorities.

The only thing that would be really hard to justify would be the destruction of Alderaan - and even then it was harboring Rebels /threatening to revolt entirely. Just use what the US used to justify Hiroshima. "We had to, to end it". "This avoided a terrible drawn out land war". Both of those are fairly true but it was also largely about showing off the bombs to Stalin.

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>>51333128
>>51333117
How would you have felt if their ages had been reversed and you had Hayden Christiensen hitting on Leon-aged Natalie Portman?

>>51333220
>muh peaceful planet
>we have no weapons
>because we gave them all to the rebellion

>>51333425
/tv/ would have loved it.

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>>51333425

>>51333425
I'd have been okay with it, 6 years or less age difference seems okay with me.
>>51333441
Fuck you talking about nigga?

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>>51333425

>>51333566
Intended to reply to >>51333234

>>51331508
If they even mentioned KotOR, i doubt that it would be to the depth that the game explained its setting and it'd only be a name drop.
We'd get like "Oh Darth Revan from the Old Republic" and not all the details of who Revan was and the character's significance
>>51331544
>her
stop it

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>>51329388
Why don't you cut and paste together screenshots of the actual parts instead of redrawing it? Seems easier to me...

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>>51331599
Thanks, errors fixed.

And I deliberately wanted the characters to not use known aliens and to make up their own. Might not work for every group, but it seems like it fits better.

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>>51325085
I guess plasma is a different state of matter to fire, so it might have some elemental side effect of heat, but not as much as ye olde flammenwerfe and do some damage.
Lightsabres I sort of lump into a 'magic weapon' pile as they're a weird mix of a radio crystal set, d-cell batteries and some other supernormal force fuckery to make them work, so I think they'd do some damage, of course a flaming lightsabre would be better if you can trigger the fire effect on it. Plus PC's love side-tracks to go find magic crystals and other handheld war crime devices that set shit on fire anyway, all it takes is a few misfortunes then they set all they love and hold dear on fire as well.

But, they should be very hard to put down and even harder to actually get rid of permanently, so borrowing a bit from D&D, a phylactery or some other object (or person) anchoring them in the real-space universe at least holds out some hope for a solution- after another side trek to do some research on them.
Or if you're feeling macabre, have captured and tortured jedi from back in the time the temple fell being held somewhere terrible in a state between life-death with some sith alchemy to act as a a fuel to the spirit- plus it throws in a moral dilemma for PC's.

>>51333896
How about making it so your Holocron Wraiths or whatever are aware of their vulnerability, but they take measures to avoid it? Maybe give them a force power or aura that lets them shut off lights, certain powered things of a silhouette of 0 so they can shut off a blaster or a set of nightvision goggles, but not a fighter? Then make sabers be the one thing they can't turn off, making having your saber ready invaluable, and allowing lots of playing with lights and spooky narration. You could even introduce them by having them act like some sort of poltergeist (shuts off lights, force throws objects) to really fuck with the players since they weren't expecting to face up against that.

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>>51333988
Yeah, an 'anti-technology' aura could be VERY scary in a setting like star wars.
Course, that might be a bit mean to droid players who end up making willpower checks to avoid having their strain being leached away... but fuck em! :)

There is something of a sick delight in the thought of lots of PC's ending up running around with firey torches, swords on a quest to find the master artisan who can make them API rounds for their slug throwers

Guess it comes down to how hard you want to make it. Some groups will rise to a challenge, others grumble along and bitch every step

>>51334060
I'd also limit them to 1 planet. Firstly because hyperspace capable ghosts is a little silly (Exar Kun had to go to a specific place). Secondly because you could make that planet a recurring plot point, so your players are dreading returning to it because it means they'll have the Nazgul after them, putting them on the clock for whatever job they do. Thirdly, you can create situations outside of that one planet that lets droid players shine a bit if they feel they're getting fucked raw by the ghosts without powering them down. Finally, it means that once the players deduce that the wraiths are only on one planet, they will be able to narrow their search and take out the Phylactery equivalent.

>>51334122
>limit them to 1 planet
Doesn't that contrast with the whole Dark Riders theme? It would probably make more sense for them to weaken with distance. The farther they are from their origin, the weaker their powers are. Plus, given the nature of planets that are strong in the dark side, that one planet would not be a planet that the rest of the galaxy would miss. Limiting them to a single planet that nobody sane wants is just asking for a base delta zero with next to no chances of retaliation.

>>51334428
>Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure
Sorry, I forgot how PCs think for a second there, silly me. But yeah, let the PC's be able to get away from them, but still have them be dark riders. That way the PCs can do some detective work to find the planet, and then make them go deep underground to destroy the Phylacteries, because bombing the shit out of the temple would just seal their phylacteries under a mountain of rubble that the wraiths themselves would have no trouble getting through.

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>>51334483
They'd probably also need some way to counter starfighters that carry bunker busters. Would they ride space fellbeasts like something ripped straight out of TotJ? Or would something more mundane and fashionable be better?

>>51333793
I don't know why, but that big guy on the left looks like he's a dick. Like he likes getting jerked around even. And he looks like he would smell of sweaty, moldy cheese

>>51332936
Dude is that when Hal Horn died? Wasn't he killed by a Trandoshan while meeting with a Rodian?

>>51333079
Not that Wedge would actually be that good at taking advantage of them. Wedge's slight social awkwardness is one of my favorite things about his character. It's not like he's autistic, but the guy is almost an X-Wing savant and kind of bad at normal social stuff.

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>>51334560
The artist is... unique.

>>51334694
wedge really is just a normal guy who happens to be the best pilot alive, maybe the best ever.
and it's great

>>51333740
Revan was just a shortening of Revanchist anyway

>>51335333
No that was his name. Revanchist was some kind of bullshit made up later as I recall to name those who followed Revan to the war, and some jackass decided Revan whose name was Revan was The Revanchist, it goes no farther than that.

>>51335425
m8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revanchism

I really want to see two things. The Emperor's reaction to the news and viewing of the footage, and the Emperor welcoming his 'new apprentice'.

And then realising he has no strength in the Force.

>>51333234
'Treason' is always justified when the government is oppressive or when its a government that was imposed upon you.

And you cannot seriously argue its wrong to blow up a weapon whose only purpose is mass murder and spreading fear because it has a large crew.

>>51333234
>>51333234
>blowing up a planet full of civilians
vs
>blowing up a fucking weapon that destroys planets full of civilians
>said weapon is full of military personnel
>weapon is employed by a militaristic institution that has shown they will crush any sort of uprising by destroying EVERYTHING they know
Are you really arguing this, anon?

>>51335725
Imperials is gud boys, dey dindu nuffin
need mo monies for dem deff stars

>>51335433
I'm aware of that, I was talking only withing the Legends continuity, Revanchism is not actually relevant to that, as Revan wasn't initially out for revenge his motivation was to fight for justice against a foe who was commiting atrocities.

>>51335776
like butchering entire planets and removing them from the Republic sphere of influence?

>the political manifestation of the will to reverse territorial losses incurred by a country

hmmmmmmmmm

>>51335836
I can see the inspiration for him from that political movement.
I'm not saying whoever wrote up Revans existence didn't use that as a base or something to parallel with the real world.
I simply said that REVAN was not named Revanchist.
Within the star wars universe the movement was named after him, and he was then, perhaps by his adversaries, given the title The Revanchist, no evidence exists that he ever personally used it, but his followers were always called Revanchists, did you not even read my posts?

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My new group has decided on their starship.

It's named "Wanda", or "W4-ND-4" if you are going by the registration plate.

It's hideous. The render hardly does it justice. Ignore the colours (they're just for tracking modules).

The ship's got a prow like a sail barge, but the interior is cramped, not designed for humans, and slightly damp. The hyperdrive is offeset by 6 degrees so the ship spins through Hyperspace, making everyone sick if they look out the windows. The windows don't close. The engine keeps falling off.

The ship has (not rendered yet) two modules like wings or weapons blisters on either side. One has a turbolaser and a secondary, smaller laser. The other /should/ match it, but fell off and was replaced with a generic cargo pod.

The secondary laser is in a turret, but only one axis works. It can fire dead ahead, or rotate up like the needle on a dial to fire directly backwards. Hooray.

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>>51335930
What is Wanda good at?

Well, there are always - always - spare parts available. Almost nothing on the ship is original, and it's easy enough to find replacements for the bits that don't work.

Wanda also has a unique quirk. Her centre of mass, centre of rotation, and centre of thrust are all in different areas. If you aren't careful the ship will spin itself apart due to hideous oversteer. But if you /are/ careful she can out-turn a TIE fighter. Her retrothrusters are also fairly useful in dogfights.

>>51335960
Also, Wanda fixes Timmy and Cosmo's fuck ups

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>>51336003
And I believe she's also a fish.

Look, I didn't name the damn thing. The players did.

But they also picked "Creature Discomforts" as an Aspect, so fuck them, I hope they have fun with the interior.

How can you have windows that don't close... on a spaceship?

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>>51336051
I meant that the shields don't close. No way to block out the glare... or the tumbling star-streaks.

>>51336079
I'd just fuckin weld four clips around each window to hold a piece of sheet metal over them.
hell, that'd probably look MORE bootleg

New thread?

>>51336916
Go ahead.

>>51336976
>>51336916

>>51337151
here you go nerds