/swg/ - Lord of the cheekbones edition

First?

>>51305924
So Tarkin was comically inept, right?

>>51306011
Not sure why you would think that. Then again I have not read the new book yet.

You can't deny his cheekbones though.

>>51306031
Oh absolutely, Stellar cheekbones.

But his track record is pretty abysmal.
>gets captured by separatist droids
>struggles to capture a teenage Jedi apprentice
>fails to capture or eliminate a crew of misfits on lothal
>looses his personal flagship to aforementioned crew of misfits
>local governor gets sick of his shit and calls for Thrawn
>blows up the Empires central military data archive
>rejects idea that the Deathstar should be escorted by a fleet of ships because the rebels are aware of a critical flaw in its design
>gets 1 million Imperial personnel killed

Guys a menace to his own side.

>>51306110
If you're gonna count stuff as "effectiveness against the lothal rebels" he's hardly less competent than the rest of the empire. The Death Star question could have been handled better though, I agree with that. Sure, he was missing key information about the stations weakness, but assaulting the rebel base without support was hybris.

>>51306110

Not to mention destroying Alderaan to spite a single individual, thus causing mass desertions/defections & public opinion to sway against the Empire

>>51306251
That sure is a way you could choose to read that scene.

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>>51305924
Make way for the best shipfu

>>51306281
>victory class has yet to appear on screen

Disney pls

>>51306281

Many of the Rebellion's best and a lot of their command structure were Imperial deserters. Tycho Celchu, Biggs Darklighter, Derek Kilivan, Adar Tallon, Carlist Rieekan, Crix Madine, Jan Dodonna, and Arhul Narra, just to name a few. Not all of them quit because of Alderaan, but it certainly encouraged some of them, alongside the Empire's other atrocities.

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>>51306326

Shit, that was meant for >>51306270.

>>51306326
Sure, but it also served to terrify local governments into submission. Or at least, would have, if the Death Star would have stuck around.

>>51306357

Yep, that was the Tarkin Doctrine. But you could do the exact same thing with the DS1's weight in Star Destroyers, which already had enough firepower to glass planets on their own and can threaten more than one system at a time.

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>>51306281
You seem to have uploaded wrong holo on accident, let me help you friend.

Venator 4 lyfe

>>51306403
>You seem to have uploaded wrong holo on accident

>>51306319
It's especially bad because Rebels is in the Outer Rim. And yet all we see besides the light cruisers and Gozantis are the Imperial Class SDs. I just want to see some Vic's that have been lovingly cared for by their crew over the year.

>>51306403
I assure you there was no mistake.

Assuming the rebels could actually find enough pilots and ships a rebel controlled Venator would be terrifying, dat hangar capacity.

>>51306593
How many people would be needed to crew it effectively?

>>51306011
He's as effective as any conventional forces commander against any competent insurgency.

>>51306601

The Wook lists a standard 7400 crewmen, plus pilots for all the starfighters. A skeleton force of 2k miiiiight be able to make it fly, but not very well.

>>51306639
Jesus

>>51306639
What the hell are all of those people even doing inside that ship?
Are droid floor sweepers just not an option? Or is there somewhere inside the ship some sorta giant treadmill or a push wheel that more than half the crew run in/push in order to generate power for the entire ship?

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>>51306917
Yes?

>>51306963
Nvm

>>51306946
While droids are a good point, some quick wiki-ing found that Nimitz-class Suppercarriers, who are less than 1/3 the length of a Venator, have a listed crew of "Up to 5,000+", so I wouldn't say 7400 is an unreasonable number.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimitz-class_aircraft_carrier

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>>51306011
Bit unfair to say that he's a catalogue of fuck ups, but terrible leadership skills, utterly rubbish understanding of social behaviour and a bit of a prick really he does deserve.
What he is though, is someone Palps can rely on and is very loyal to him, then managed to not fuck up all the time to get the attention of his boss to the point Palps gives a damn.

>>51306946
That's not too bad as far as star destroyers go, given its 4 times the length of an aircraft carrier and many times its size

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>>51306996

The exact point I was about to make - good job, anon. There's also the fact that Venators were battleships alongside aircraft carriers, so they'd presumably need more crew for gunnery, support, repair, and other vial combat needs.

>>51306946
That figure probably includes:
>Bridge
>Engineering
>Flight deck crew
>Pilots
>Gunnery
>Muhreens
>Medical
A ship that big needs a lot of people. 7400 actually seems really, really small for something as large as a Venator.

>>51306996
What are these guys even doing on the ship? Damage control duty?

Reposting this for the new thread.

My campaign started with my players waking up on a pirate ship after being captured. They proceeded to break free and capture all the pirates, and take the ship for themselves. The captain was traded in for a bounty, but they have a brig full of pirates, so they want to fly to Hutt Space to sell them off as slaves.

Anything interesting I can do with this? I've been playing a lot with the idea that their ship, despite being really nice, is giving them a lot of mistaken identity issues thanks to how infamous the pirate they stole it from was, so I might have them get in some trouble when a Hutt that the former captain pissed off catches wind that their ship has docked.

>>51307024
Ok, how large are these marine forces aboard ships (both on Venators and Nimitz class aircraft carriers)?

>>51307030

They're on a giant ship in the middle of the ocean powered by nuclear reactors, carrying dozens of highly-complicated flying battle craft. There's a lot of stuff that needs doing. It's not a raft floating down the Mississippi.

>>51307045

Again, the Wook lists about 2k passengers onboard the Venator separate from the crew. It's hard to say how many marines you could stuff onboard a Nimitz, since troop deployment really isn't in their mission profile.

>>51307030
Sleeping, fapping, babysitting the reactors and bilge pumps, doing officer things, maintaining fucktons of aircraft. Super Hornets and F-35s don't repair themselves.

>>51307043

Oh yeah, having Security light up when the SS Mynock Rapist comes into port is a good idea. Hell, if they pull into a sketchy-enough spaceport, there's a good chance they'll get attacked before they even have a chance to land.

>Start EotE game expecting plucky rogues looking to make a quick buck
>They decide they want to start a criminal empire
Well fuck it this is cool too I guess

>>51307577

It's my experience that when you give PCs a ship and a free sky, they either 1) try to build some kind of enterprise, or 2) try to become the best at something. Generally either or both of those based on murder.

>>51307598
Yeah I don't know why I didn't expect it. It's going to make things interesting though, because we've got a force sensitive in the party and we're using morality rules. So far he's coasted along alright, but doing a few jobs is different to building an entire empire, which will presumably involve a lot of amoral bullshit.

But hey, he can either try to steer the other PCs in the right direction or embrace the fall.

Haven´t been here since october last year. Are there any new additions to the ffg rpg?

>>51306110
>fails to capture or eliminate a crew of misfits on lothal
>looses his personal flagship to aforementioned crew of misfits
He drove them off the planet and lured out an actual rebel fleet into the open.

Not exactly a full success, but not bad.

>>51306382
Can't bust Planetary Shields without an INCREDIBLE amount of them or torpedo spheres.

No Disintegrations is now shipping to stores.
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/1/20/masters-of-the-hunt/

New preview lists a handful of guns, lists a few types of micro-rockets that'll be available, gives some hints on how Mandalorian armor will work, and previews the "Exploits" rewards system (modifiers when dealing with bounties).

>>51307949
Endless Vigil (FaD Sentinel) and Friends Like These (AoR adventure) came out. We've got camera-quality scan of the former.

I'm trying to make the most frustrating list to go up against in X-wing. This is my attempt so far:
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Scum%20and%20Villainy&d=v4!s!168:-1,123,-1,-1:28:-1:u.144;125:-1,0,-1,-1:-1:-1:;213:188,-1:43:-1:;233:-1,-1,-1,-1:-1:30:&sn=Trolls%20and%20Villany

>>51307964

How common are planetary shields, I wonder? AFAIK, we've only seen planet-spanning shields on three planets in the movies, and only a handful more in the EU. Mostly you see shields around specific bases or strongholds like Echo Base.

>>51307994
Thanks. Gonna be downloading both.

>>51308004
That looks actually less frustrating than just the common scum lists, I fucking hate going up against jumpmasters and lancers and fucking fenn rau.

>>51308031
In the Legends EU they were rather common post-Endor, and pre-endor they were common for the core, colonies, and Inner Rim's wealthier worlds but very hard to get further out.

>>51308036

Good luck with that. If you do happen to find a good quality scan, return here and provide details, so that they may be added to the PDF folders.

>>51308064
How does people usually make Rau frustrating? I often find that he dies very quickly due to his lack of evade action, but maybe I'm just a shitty pilot.

>>51308217
My experience against him has always just been frustration trying to keep him in arc and jack shit for damage shooting into 4 agility or 3 with autothrusters while getting pounded back by 5 attack.

>>51308272
In my experience stealth devices seldom last more than one attack. Do you run a lot of firepower-2 ships?

>>51308217
You're a shitty pilot, having boost+barrel roll, PS9, and a good dial he should be able to be positioned well.
Autothrusters and agi 3 should let him do well against most turrets (multiple TLT will take him down, but that's a thing that happens with arc dodger aces).
The guy he's going after should have to shoot into 4 dice and an auto evade, or you stay out of their arc.

If he's getting shot by multiple ships without turrets at range 1-2, you done goofed.

>>51308292
its 4 dice with a focus against a 3 dice attack, odds are that he takes no hits.
If you get into range one he's got 5 dice, with a free evade if he's facing you. so again odds are no hits.
Given that he typically runs with a token stripper, how are you reliably getting a hit through in one shot.

Multiple 3 dice range 2, or range 1 out of arc, shots will get a hit through, but then you're doing a shit job piloting.

>>51308292
Nope, I mostly run 3 red ships like T-70s and ARCs but he can just fly up into the grill of one of those and unload with 5 red and be mostly safe from retaliation with 4 green and a free evade token from the title. Since he's generally highest pilot skill he can almost always choose to stay out of the only place he's weak, range 2, by just moving for range 3 where he's also 4 green and an evade from autothrusters and boosting if he ends up too close or in too many arcs.

Rate my x-wing list:

>Gamma Squadron Veteran
Tie mk.ii engine
Tie shuttle
Fleet officer
Swarm Leader
>Maarek Steele
Juke
X/7
>Rexler Brath
Expertise
X/7

>>51306326
That wouldn't have meant shit if not for Luke Skywalker and his Jedi fuckery.

>>51308594
if it wasn't for Darth Vader and his Sith dickery the rest of Red Squadron could have gotten the shot in to kill the death star.
There was force dickery on both sides.

>>51308609
Okay? But that has nothing to do with Tarkin.

Had Skywalker not been able to destroy the DS1, the Rebellion would have been 100% finished. We see in Rogue One that the majority is ready to call it quits even before that, but a conclusive battle keeps them in the fray for another day.

Having such a major defeat, plus the destruction of Yavin IV, would have sealed the deal for the Rebellion... while Tarkin would be lauded as the Man who Ended the War.

The Tarkin Doctrine WORKS nine-hundred-and-ninety-nine times out of a thousand. After blowing up Alderaan and Yavin, the Death Star's reputation would be concrete. The mere rumor of it arriving in one's sector would cause people, who would otherwise be Rebel sympathizers themselves, to turn in their Rebel-leaning neighbors as terrorists and accept subjugation with a (forced) smile.

It's only in the very rare case of a Force user that something like the Death Star can be defeated, which ruins the Tarkin Doctrine. Don't judge Tarkin on that.

>>51308713
>It's only in the very rare case of a Force user that something like the Death Star can be defeated, which ruins the Tarkin Doctrine.
no, you're missing the point.
If there had been no force users on either side, then more of Red Squadron survices, gets more passes and takes out the Death Star still. So Tarkin still dies and fails.

His fault was thinking the Death Star was invincible and that the Rebels would be making that attack when they knew they had no chance. They made the attack, because they had the chance.

>>51308782
>then more of Red Squadron survices
Doubtful. It doesn't take much Force hax to play goalkeeper in a trench that doesn't allow room to maneuver.

>>51308796
wait, so you're arguing that Darth Vader isn't a badass.
That's what you're argument depends on, and you're willing to make that claim.

What are you even doing here?

>>51308824
>>51308782
That's a negative. The Rebels, sans-Luke, tried all they could to make that veeeeery difficult shot work, and failed.

Without the Force, you're not making a successful trench run.

Plus, this is not a situation where we're discussing removing the Force from the galaxy. Vader can be blasting Rebels to bits with the Force all day, that doesn't minimize Tarkin's brilliance.

No, it's just that nobody expected that a new Jedi to have just enough Force ability to aim his proton torpedo to do the otherwise-impossible.

>>51308796
Red Squadron set their deflector shields to double front, they'd' have been fine. Also, Wedge Antilles.

>>51308868
Literally only 2 ships made the shot, which was a bloody hard one to make. Luke used the force to get the right shot, not to redirect the torpedos, seeing as how he could barely move a saber handle in episode V.

>>51308873
You know that there were two other TIE fighters in the trench with Vader, right? It doesn't take a Sith to attack the Rebels in the trench.

>>51308907
You're making my point for me. Luke needed the Force, which wasn't accounted for in Tarkin's plan.

Otherwise the Tarkin Doctrine would have worked.

>>51308915
Those fighters wouldn't have been launched without Vader's direct order.

>>51308824
No, the argument is that ordering Black Squadron to deploy does not require the use of Force powers. Shooting Rebels in the back in a trench with no room for them to dodge also does not require Force powers. If someone other than Vader had decided to scramble TIEs, Red and Gold Squadrons would still have been fucked without Luke.

>>51308873
>double front
The trench runners were getting shot in the back.
>Wedge
His skills are irrelevant in the trench, where maneuvering options are severely limited.

>>51308868
>>51308907
only two ships are able to take the shot, in part because Darth Vader shows up and blows some of them away.
You can argue that the non-force user part of the Empire would have been able to take out the Rebels sans-Luke, but you have no more proof of that than I have that the non-force user part of the Rebels could make the trench run and make the shot.
It's a difficult shot, but not an impossible one.

>>51308953
Tarkin wouldn't have launched black squadron due to his belief in the Death Star's perceived invincibility.

>>51308953
Well Tarkin didn't make that order, so still a fuck up on his part.
And again, you saying that Black Squadron could have done the job just fine, involves claiming that Darth Vader isn't a badass. And you are strangely comfortable saying.

>>51308997
>involves claiming that Darth Vader isn't a badass
>jumping to conclusions this hard
No, I'm saying that Vader's role in that fight did not require Force powers. If Palpatine had duct-taped an ysalamiri to his helmet, or if he had zero Force sensitivity whatsoever, Vader could still have done the job because camping the trench and shooting Rebels in the back does not require Force sensitivity, just tactical acumen and enough knowledge to handle a TIE.

>>51308448
Looks fine to me. I see what you're getting at with trying to use Swarm Leader to up the bomber's potential, if the Defenders don't need their Evades. Not a bad idea.

>>51309058
You do realize that force powers are part of what makes Jedi and Sith such good fighters and pilots right?
I mean Obi-wan had to tell Luke to use the force to make the shot, but that's because he doesn't just use it automatically like say Darth Vader would have.
Darth Vader badasser comes from the force even when he's not actively force choking people.

Otherwise you are saying that any decent pilot could have done it, which means that Darth Vader showing up wasn't important, because what he did wasn't being a badass. So Darth Vader wasn't a badass. And you're okay with that.

>>51308389
Fenn Rau is basically an in-your-face Interceptor with no Evade, and a death wish. Stealth Device gives him an extra temporary green, but he doesn't have the Evade Tokens or Plapatine to keep it going like Soontir Fel. Autothrusters are probably the most solid mod option for him, as he's an arc-dodger first and foremost. The thing to remember about Rau is that he's like Talonbane in that they are both heavily focused for R1 chicken, can be tough to bring down at R3, and despise the R2 "dead-zone". The major difference between them is ordnance type (not an issue), knife-fighter vs interceptor dials, 1 shield vs 3 agility, and an illicit slot compared to a title. But other than green 2-speed maneuvers, possible cloaking/stim, and autothrusters+3 green, treat them vaguely similar. Rau can be brought down. He's no Soontir Fel with sheev guiding his green dice.

>>51309136
>good fighters and pilots right
Irrelevant in the case of the trench run. Protecting the exhaust port required no sophisticated maneuvering or superhuman precognitive abilities. Comparing Luke and Vader's role is also a false equivalence. Luke needed those precognitive Force skills to make the shot because the timing and ideal placement were very, very difficult to achieve. Luke's job at Yavin was harder than Vader's, because all Vader had to do was fly down the trench, shoot Xs and Ys, pull up, then circle back to the beginning and repeat.

Vader's pivotal decision in that fight was to order Black Squadron to deploy. He did not need to call upon any of his dogfighting skills or Force powers at that point in time, because the mission did not require them. Imagine if Bruce Lee had a gun and was confronted with an armed attacker. Does Bruce Lee lose his badass card for shooting the guy? No. It's the simplest, most effective solution for the situation. He doesn't need to pull off fancy martial arts because shooting a motherfucker is easier, faster, and safer.

>>51309121
That's the ticket alright. Between the 2 high ps defenders, the bomber is low priority usually. I normally have it last longer than a palp shuttle. Between expertise, target lock, and a focus for brath's ability, that should put down some nice damage.

I wanted general hux for an auto-crit through Brath, but he is 5 points and shuttle restricts to 4 and below.

>>51309274
I think you misunderstand what Star Wars is about on a fundamental level.

>>51309307
No, you just lack reading comprehension and an understanding of Vader's skills. Shooting Outer Rim yokels who are flying in a straight line is nothing compared to dogfighting with hyper-agile droid starfighters in a chaotic fleet battle over Coruscant. Vader could have done the entire trench defense in his sleep with an ysalamiri shoved up his ass.

>>51309232
I'd say hes much better than Talonbane, and while comparable to Soontir, some counters to Soontir don't work against him.
For a few reason.
Compared to Talonbane: Much more manueverable: the dial is much better, he's got a boost and barrel roll (compared to nothing). Much better defense: he gets an extra defense at R1, where Talonbane only get the offense, and in arc gets a free evade. (the illicit isn't as good, it just isn't)

Compared to Soontir:
Several counters to Soontir don't work against Fenn Rau. And while he doesn't have Plapatine, he does have Manaroo.
Manaroo means he doesn't have to rely as much on his own actions and tokens, so forcing a bump or crossing an asteroid isn't as crippling.
The automatic extra die, and free evade at range one means things that strip tokens, prevent tokens, don't get around everything he does.
Mindlink also lets him get crazy action economy without having stress himself, which means you doesn't have that turn where you can limit him to green manuevers, or use double stress to shut him down as hard.

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>>51309400
>Outer Rim yokels

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>>51309274
>>51309400
>The trench run shot is impossible without the force because I say so.
>Shooting down all the x-wings and y-wings is easy without he force, because I say so.
>That this means that Darth Vader was just doing what any competent TIE fighter pilot could do doesn't mean that there are literally no scenes of Darth Vader being a threat in fighter in the original trilogy.
>Which is fine because the Prequels clearly show how badass Darth Vader is.

>>51309493
Well at least he's shown to be a competent pilot in rebels

>>51309493
>because I say so
Because the trench has no fucking room to maneuver. All of Vader's targets flew in straight lines and were engaged at nearly point-blank range. All he had to do was point and click. No fancy maneuvers, no duels with elite aces, just shooting people in the back while they're helpless to retaliate or escape. Everyone who flies into the trench is a sitting duck, as Han and Chewie proved later on. Meanwhile, the thermal exhaust port is a few meters wide and requires the torpedo to curve within a very, very small correct window so that it flies straight down and doesn't hit the external armor, the rim, or the walls of the shaft.

>>51309614
>All of Vader's targets flew in straight lines and were engaged at nearly point-blank range. All he had to do was point and click.
and this is true because I say so.
>Everyone who flies into the trench is a sitting duck, as Han and Chewie proved later on.
no, Han and Chewie are also badasses, otherwise otherwise a non-name y-wing's turret would have done it.

You have the choice between Vader, Han, and Chewie were able to pull off something badass because they were badasses, or 'it wasn't actually hard, they just happened to be the ones who were there', and you are going with the second option.
WTF is wrong with you?

So for obligation do you legit just write down multiple obligations or can you just write down an obligation with a large number? (Maybe someone really wants you dead)

>>51309307
It could also be that your argument is bunk, and that you're both slap fighting over an irrelevant detail spun off a separate and equally bunk argument.

>>51309721
Darth Vader is a threat because he, unlike Tarkin, is smart enough to defend the Death Star's weak point and do so in a nearly foolproof manner. It doesn't matter whether he used the Force at Yavin or not because his tactical skills allowed him to predict how and where the Rebels would perform their attack runs, thus allowing him to respond with a counter-tactic that is both easy and effective.

Vader exploited that in a way that doesn't require him to break a sweat. He demonstrates his threat status at Yavin not through brute power or Force shenanigans, but by seeing right through the Rebels' bullshit and being the only smart person in the room. Han and Chewie then turned the tables by exploiting the very same vulnerability that Vader exploited, while also blindsiding him. Vader demonstrates his street cred not through visible use of the Force or fancy piloting, but through intelligent use of an easily defensible position. Han and Chewie then demonstrate theirs by being the spanner in the works.

>because I say so
No, because it's visibly obvious. Trench runners have to fly in close formation--fact, seen every time a formation begins a trench run. The trench is a straight line--also a fact, as seen just by looking at the Death Star. It's also obvious from comparing starfighter size and the trench that maneuvering is extremely hard, especially since AA fire is visible above the trench. What happens when one of Vader's wingmen panics? He crashes into Vader. No room to maneuver.

Star Wars isn't just about power level wank. It's also about heroes and villains being in the right place at the right time, while making good use of their wits and intelligence.

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>>51309721
Han and Chewie do what either of the previous two Xwing groups could have done for the preceding bombing run by cutting off the trench pursuit.

Pure conjecture here: The Rebels strategy to cram 3 fighters into the trench is probably to make top cover easier while getting at least one bomber through the turbolasers. The Rebels probably didn't adjust their strategy to cut off the TIEs in the trench because they were so busy trying not to fuck up the already difficult plan.

None of that at all diminishes Vader or Han.

>>51309856
given that this started with "Tarkin did nothing wrong" and "Without Luke there is no way the Rebels could have succeeded", I'm just going to end this here.
Even if Darth Vader didn't need to be a badass pilot to pull off what he did, TIE fighters were clearly the right idea and not sending them out was a fuckup by Tarkin caused by his arrogance, and without the TIES being out the Rebels would have had a chance of the shot even without Luke.

So Tarkin was being stupidly arrogant, and I'm leaving it at that.

>>51307045
>>51307045
Well venators were also supposed to assist acclamators in ground ops, but also be able to land a force individually (like a garrison) so i assume at the least a company (couple of platoons and command staff plus support)

In the same way, with aircraft carriers. Though they mostly rely on MLS for major troop operations, they are capable of airlifting a company in size from the flight deck in about platoon sized lifts.

So really i wouldnt suspect a venator of holding more than a company of troops at any given time, plus basic supplies, and supporting troops like medical and maybe heavy lift since all starwars troop units appear to be airmobile armored-cav units. AT-TE airlift was the coolest part about watching the geonosis battle scene.

>>51309493
>>The trench run shot is impossible without the force because I say so.

I don't really care about the rest of the argument, but that ones implied to be true by the plot itself.

Remember when Tarkins like "nothing can destroy this station lol" and Vaders like "dude this stations nothing compared to the power of the force lol"? That's foreshadowing.

And then of course, you have Ben's force ghost telling Luke to turn off his targeting computer and use the force. Ben wasn't just being a dick there, the targeting computer couldn't make that shot, neither could a human. It was the Force making the impossible possible.

Of course Rogue One took a massive shit all over that plot point, but what can you do?

>>51310051
>rogue one shit on it

Why exactly? It was designed into the superstructure, but that doesnt mean that Orso thought it out so that anyone could actually hit it.

>>51310051

>Of course Rogue One took a massive shit all over that plot point, but what can you do?

Not... really? The weakness that Galen put into the Death Star still required a pilot to dump a proton torpedo into the two meter wide auxiliary exhaust port just below the main port. It was still a stupidly difficult shot to get to that weakness.

What's interesting is that it seems like they never realised that the problem was with the reactor and used the same design with the same weakness for the DS2.
So once again, taking out the central reactor causes the entire thing to explode.

>>51309929
Don't they only turn off the trench guns to accommodate Vader sticking his nose in there? Obviously from the audience perspective we only see Porkins get surface lasered, but it's not a terribly hard argument to make that if Vader doesn't get involved that the Farmboy doesn't hit the "one-in-a-million" shot and Tarkin looks just fine.

>>51310051
>>51310088
Galen designed the reactor to be unstable, he did not individually design each exhaust port, he just facilitated the exhaust port being a necessity.

>>51310111
>the same weakness for the DS2.

They never planned on ships flying into the half finished DS2, that's the only reason the reactor was vulnerable.

>>51310051
The shot was possible by a normal pilot, or else Gen. Dodonna wouldn't have ordered the attack. All the other pilots either died before they could make it, and the one that did missed. It's not that the shot was impossible but that it'd make bad viewing for the protagonist not to make the shot.

>>51310115
so we can use what the movie shows to be true to argue that Darth Vader wasn't necessary because any TIE fighters could have done it.
But then ignore what the movie shows, to argue that TIE fighters weren't necessary and that the ground lasers were doing the job just fine.

And going further and saying that Vader actually screwed up Tarkin's genius tactical analysis.

God damn, I actually feel dumber reading the Discourse today

>>51310111
>DS2

That's what happens when your project lead murders all the engineers in a fit. Romance in the workplace is a dangerous thing.

>>51310249
the grand imperial tradition of killing the hostages after getting what you want, when your policy relies on people obeying you because you threaten what they care about.

>>51310165
It was clearly a suicide mission even with the Intel, if retreat was an option for the Rebellion then clearly Tarkin is no worse than any other military leader in the story.

>>51310179
The movie doesn't show a trench run made without Vader's interference, nor does it show the ultimate fate of every one of the Rebellion's strike fighters. Concessions to the narrative are a bitch, but I'm not the one trying to argue anything is absolutely true either way.

>>51310442
except if Tarkin had scrambled the TIE fighters to start with, or had thought to have a couple of Star Destroyers meet up with them when they went after the Rebel base, he would have succeeded.

I mean, he's no dumber than Nute Gunray or General Grievous, but is that really company you want to be.

>>51310520
>Obviously from the audience perspective we only see Porkins get surface lasered
They only take out one ship, can't evade covering fire, have slower turn speed. We're shown they are not as good at taking out snubfighters as TIEs are, a thing repeatedly reinforced in other movies and other material.

>>51310540
Specifically I was comparing the Rebellion leaders who were up shit creek if lover boy and the mercenaries didn't bail them out at the last second.

>>51306403
hmm there are some ships there that i don't recognize

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What if Tarkin was a rebel sympathizer all along? His ultimate goal could have been to see the empire fall, despite himself being a part of it. It almost seems like Tarkin knowingly committed strategic mistakes. While it's true that many imperial personnel did defect, wouldn't it be more beneficial to remain part of the empire? Given his position, I doubt it would have been difficult for him to orchestrate the destruction of many important imperial assets, the death star not withstanding, or the deaths of valuable personnel.

>>51310604
We only see one ship, but it's not outlandish to assume they got a few more of all those pretty digital wingmen Lucas edited in that end up unaccounted for. The Rebels are pretty free to swarm above the surface, but crammed into the trench is a different situation entirely.

All I'm saying is, it's really easy to criticize the guy who loses because that's what the script says has to happen.

>>51306403
>>51310724
I can't find them in Wookiepedia

>>51310651
when are they shown to make as actively stupid decision as Tarkin does.
They do get lured into a couple of traps, that iirc, they had no evidence that they were traps, and being up shit creek was a matter of being outgunned not bad decisions.

Tarkin deciding 'sure TIE fighters are what we use to counter snubfighters, but I'm not going to use them, because I don't think I'll need them. There is no downside to sending them out besides making me look cautious, but I want my balls to feel big'.

>>51310724
There are a bunch of ships in that scene that were kitbashed together just for it and don't exist anymore.

>>51310850
too bad, I hope Episode 8 brings New Republic ships, and not just Mon Calamari cruise liners

>>51310838
except, again, we see that the snubfighters can avoid and shoot down the turrets, while also being shown that the snubfighters start going down quickly to the TIEs.

The trench benefits pursuers, which TIEs can be but turrets can't.

Sure the script had him be the idiot who didn't scrabble the TIEs, but we are clearly shown, and it's backed up repeatedly, that TIEs are better against snubfighters than capital ship turrets.

If you want to complain about you're mancrush being screwed by the ship, complain about the stupid decisions that the ship puts into his mouth.

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>>51310895
>If you want to complain about you're mancrush being screwed by the ship, complain about the stupid decisions that the ship puts into his mouth.

L-lewd

>>51310837
>Guy who made the DS is a double agent
>Guy who used the DS is a double agent

It would be as if the whole galaxy played an elaborate prank on Palpatine, to give him ultimate power and then crush him beneath incompetence and betrayal.

>>51309726

Either option is good. I find it is best to talk through what the player wants for the obligation, and what the GM thinks will work best. Someone writing a large number could translate into a hefty bounty after ticking off a hunt, while a series of smaller obligations could be having a small debt, a minor bounty for some minor crime, and the start of an alcohol addiction, all at the same time.

>>51310945
>make WMD with exploitable flaws
>use WMD once as an example
>cause mass defections for doing so
>cause mass support for the enemy for doing so
>cause public opinion to completely sway against you for doing so
>cause thousands of your own soldiers to die from "poor" planning
>make numerous tactical mistakes that even a child could recognize
>conveniently leave your WMD open to attack
He's actually an ingenious double agent. Up until his WMD was built, things were clearly in favor of the Empire. If he didn't die on the DS, I bet he'd be fucking up the First Order too.

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>>51311045
>If he didn't die on the DS, I bet he'd be dead of old age
Fixed that for you. RIP.

>>51311045
I personally kinda see this. If you notice in ESB after Tarkins death when Vader takes control of the Empires military it starts pushing the rebels back despite the major upsurge they surely received after the DS's destruction. Of course that could just be a side effect of the Empire shifting away from crushing insurgencies to total war which it is obviously better suited for and have nothing to do with Vader's command at all. Maybe its a bit of both.

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>>51310895
The trench merely handicaps the attacker's agility, that's to the benefit of the turrets as much as the pursuit craft. My point was merely that the audience never sees a trench run without the guns being shut off the accommodate Vader. Not for nothing, Imperial commanders goad Vader earlier in the film because stomping his big cyborg ass into the middle of things isn't a perfect solution for every problem they face.

I was just adding to the silly discussion, Tarkin and the Deathticle are shit waifus compared to pic related.

still no images for the Nadiri Mark One Starhawk?

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>>51311272
someone made a sketch based on the Aftermath book description

So I love my defenders but think Palp is a little too powerful in most situations.

r8 h8 masterb8
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v4!s!195:18,-1,-1:33:17:;70:152,-1,-1:33:17:;239:219:48:31:&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron

Really love the Alpha strike

>>51311308
It's almost as ugly as the original art for the New Class Modernization ships.

>>51311308
That looks like a Corona class.

>>51311308
hope to see it in Ep. 8 and hopefully other new capital ship variant sfro both the New Republic and First Order, even the Resitance

>>51311335
maybe it's based on the Corona Class

>>51311316
Like alpha strikes? Try this then:
Sabacc with swarm leader, lwf
6 academy ties

Or

Howlrunner with juke
Scourge with swarm leader
6 academy ties

Or some variant thereof

>>51311993
5 academy on that last one, oops

>>51305924
So I went to the Saga Edition stuff in the pastebin and it's missing the 4th book apparently.

As I want to fly a shuttle and a bomber:

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v4!s!54:-1,-1,29,-1:4:-1:;49:126,-1,13,-1,-1:-1:25:;12:140:-1:-1:;12:140:-1:-1:;12:140:-1:-1:&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron

This is intended to be a completely casual-game squadron. Do you think it'd be fun to fly/fly against?

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Behold, best designed shipfu.

>barely exposed bridge sunk into the main hull of the ship
>focused on modern carrier doctrine over being another battleship failure
>super strong shields that ensure it can go toe to toe with ships of the same class and come out on top

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>>51312210
>Behold, best designed shipfu.
Beskad heavy Starfighter?

>>51312288
That thing looks impractical and dumb as shit.

>>51312288
How the hell does that thing park?

>>51312312
Lower S-foil probably rotates backwards until it's standing straight up.
One of the clone ships has a similar design.

>>51310862
After TFA, you could remove "Republic" from that statement and it'd still be a step forward.

>>51312288
>hey lets make a B-wing, but minus everything sexy about a B-wing

>>51312312
Looks like the wings and engines are on hinges so it probably lands on its back like the Slave 1

>>51312312
http://fractalsponge.net/?p=1516

>>51312288

That looks like someone trying to make a starfighter-Slave 1. No doubt labelling it a Mandalorian starfighter, because ALL mando ships look like Slave-1, amirite?

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I like it

>>51312383
>>51312380

.....I hate being right. At least fractalsponge makes it look semi-good, but it makes no sense. All the effort to get it fold down.

>>51312380

I was half right

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>>51312380
>Landing wing has a curved front end
>Wing folds so that it lands curved face-down

u guys don't think it's cool? damn
maybe I don't belong here

>>51312288
Is this a slave 1 with birth defects?

>>51312409
I guess the wings are supposed to double as the gear. Just pray you never get attacked on takeoff since you can't fire forward with that landing configuration.

>>51312430
Its an interesting idea, but seems like its trying a bit too hard to justify the "gimmick."

Would probably look alright for the old Old Republic era.

>>51312461
>collapses into your arms crying

>>51312481
miss me with that gay shit

>>51312459
>I guess the wings are supposed to double as the gear.
Oh god, I see it now--the side wings when set to landing mode appear to prop the whole starfighter up in a tripod setup, with the tip of its dick as the third point of support. I can't even imagine the stress that would put on its spaceframe.

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>>51312496
>gay shit
me irl

>>51312526
Girls in /swg/?
that dog won't hunt, monsignor

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>>51312560
>Girls
haha

>>51312526
You need a haircut, young man

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>>51312624
>young man
This one knows me

>>51312526
>>51312611
This is Red Two, I've got a thot on my scanner. Can you confirm?

>>51312649
IT'S A TRAP

>>51312683
This is Red Two, that's hot as shit.
Ackbar, can you confirm?

>>51312709
You gonna keep posting glamour shots, or can we talk about fucking Star Wars?

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>>51312731
Ignore the xenos abomination and actually start talking about Star Wars, then. What historical wars and time periods would work well when adapted to the Star Wars setting?

>>51312526
>>51312611
>>51312646
>>51312709
who the fuck are you, why are you namefagging, why are you attention-whoring, and why don't you take it so /soc/?

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>>51312731
I tried. I play this as a mando merc in a 5e conversion Star Wars game, and I use the Beskad ship from Fractal sponge as a personal ship, even though the livegame doesn't do ship combat. Everyone hates it though. I thought it was a really good design for a heavy Starfighter. I dunno tho...

>>51312754
>What historical wars and time periods would work well when adapted to the Star Wars setting?
World War Two, European Theater
War never changes

>>51312756
sry

>>51312778
>European theatre
>posted from my zero

>>51312776
It was a real shitty design, namefag

>>51312798
I kno... I liked it...

>>51312526
I didn't realise XCOM 2 added hair to sectoids too.

>>51312834
Longwar 2 mod, prolly

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>>51312834
me w/o makeup

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>>51312778
Open up the scope, anon. I know you can do better than just WWII. Like the Force Wars re-imagined as the Sengoku Je'daii.

>>51312754
clone wars - pacific theatre
imperial occupation - Shanghai 1937

>>51312754
It's not a RL time, but I'd be super fucking down for a Metal Gear Star Wars game. Some specially modded Clone Trooper needs to take down a rogues gallery of freaks and force sensitives planning on using a super weapon.

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>>51313079
>BRRRROTHER
>LIQUIIIIIIID
Funnily enough, that kind of happened. Sort of.

So in FFG there's the mod that lets blasters have a shotgun spread, but it reduces range. If I put this on a stun only blaster would it only work at engaged?

>>51313103
>SWLiquid beats a TIE Fighter driving a hovercar
>Metal Gears are now mobile mini death stars
>Foxhound was an Alliance Top Secret SpecOps group

I want this more than I thought I already did.

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>>51312776
I remember the last time that picture was posted in the general, and it's accompanying greentext.

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BAH GAWD, HERE'S HERE. HE'S RIGHT HERE KING. THE LEGENDS KILLER IS HAS ARRIVED

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>>51313156
>Sev, it's me. I'm here to get you out.
>Boss? What took you so long?
>Kept you waiting, huh?

>>51312949
>tfw no firefly-tier space western in star wars wild space

>>51313192
Who knows? Maybe this time the plot will be finished, the characters will stay on character, and the game won't be so empty.

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>>51313215
You feel it too, don't you?

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>>51313230
>Rex, I'm already a demon.

>>51306110
Every proper recurring villain has an abysmal record in Rebels. Except Vader. Because muh chosen1

>>51313169
What greentext? I watched this and wanted to play in a Star Wars tgrpg...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqKCsbBSEyc

>>51313266
Are we not counting Maul as a villain?

>>51309426
I agree that Fenn is better than Talonbane. However that illicit slot cannot be ignored. If you're running K-fighters, you'd best be making use of that slot somehow. In Talon's case, give him the cloak device.

>>51313430
>implying maul has done anything other than try to make Ezra look cool

The droid in my party wants a bomb implanted in him that explodes when he dies.

How much should I make that cost? I figure I'll make it a cybernetic.

Here's a hypothetical for you /tg/. I want to change up my game a little and I've been contemplating killing Palpatine and having Tarkin as Emperor. How would the Galactic Civil War be different with Tarkin in charge?

>>51314114
the absolute cheapest is the cost of the thermal detonator, with the detonator attached to the droids logic center, rigged to blow if processes ever cease

you get what you pay for, since this might detonate if you fell down the stairs, and jury rigging a bomb might not be very reliable

you might want to add 100-500 credits per safety feature

>>51314139
Is Vader still around?

>>51314165
Aye. Currently 2BBY

>>51314202
How Vader reacts to all this would be interesting. Dude is still a power hungry Sith, wouldn't he try to assume leadership? You could be looking at a power schism in the Empire.

>>51314239
Would Vader even want to take over the Empire? He can lead armies but he doesn't seem to have the patience, political savvy, or willingness to take on the duties of government office.

>>51314285
I could see him leading it as a figurehead while Moffs do the actual heavy lifting. Dude absolutely wants to rule, he said as much in RotS, and his plan with Luke was to depose the Emperor and take over.

>>51314319
The figurehead bit makes more sense, yeah. I always figured that Vader's offer to Luke at Bespin was him trying to say anything to convince his son to team up or giving voice to his desire to overthrow Palps, rather than actual ambition to take on the mantle of governing a galaxy.

>>51314368
If I was running it, I'd have Vader at the head of the Empire, but with Tarkin as his second in command who basically does everything for the actual day to day running of things.

That or have them both vying for control and a big power split happens, but Empire civil war probably isn't what you're going for.

Me and a couple of mates are interested in the X-Wing and Armada but we can't decide which one to start collecting, any advice or opinions on which is better? I'm personally leaning towards Armada because Star Destroyers

>>51314538
X-wing is way cheaper, takes less space, is faster to play, mechanically more straightforward in its basics, but if you want Star Destroyers then go for Armada because to field the closest thing in X-wing (the Raider Corvette) requires monetary investment basically on par with Armada if not more so.

>>51312380
Wait, so it lands and takes off by doing push-ups?

WE FINALLY HAVE A /FIT/ FIGHTER

>>51314670
Thank you! Also, can you assign commanders to the capital ships and stuff? I want muh Tarkin

>>51314966
Tarkin's the Imp commander that comes in the starter kit for Armada, so yes, yes you can.

You can also assign a XO to most ships, and an elite crew (or two), along with shield upgrades, hangar mods, and cannons.

>>51314285
>doesn't have the patience, savvy or willingness to take on political duties

Who do you think we just swore in as president today?

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>>51315135
A man who bears zero similarities to Vader in terms of background, career, motivation, skill set, or methodology.

>>51315135
Vader is a genius when it comes to military tactics, but I feel governance is beyond him. He lacks the patience and subtlety for politics. If anything, he's a more competent Malak to Sheev's Revan.

What Vader would need is someone who has the political capabilities that he lacks, in the form of someone he respects and whom in turn respects him.

Tarkin is that someone.

However, like ANY villain ever, their shared arrogance would eventually be their undoing. They would underestimate the wrong enemy, and pay for it.

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>>51315326
But he matches Hayden Christiansen in acting chops and angst.

>>51315418
All this trouble caused by sand. Not good for anything. Gets everywhere. Rough. Sad!

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>>51315367
I would have described him as a more competent Lu Bu to Palps' Dong Zhuo myself.

>>51314538
If you do go Armada, check out this site.
http://armadawarlords.hivelabs.solutions/fleet_builder.php?faction=e

It lets to build a fleet list and see all the upgrades you can add to each ship and their point cost.
Armada is a much bigger investment and like >>51314670 said, is much slower to play.
I personally like it, but I can see how some people have issue with it. One of the oddest parts is that your ships fire BEFORE they move(aside from one ship with one certain upgrade). And they have to follow pre-determined speed(unless you specifically go out of you way to change that speed).
This forces you to have to think ahead and actually think strategy before just reacting to your opponent.
Especially if there are obstacles like asteroids on the field. Think of this as the chess to X-Wing's checkers.
Nothing is wrong with X-Wing, it just moves fast an exciting like you'd expect little fighters to move. Armada moves slow and plodding and with a great deal of inertia. Just like you'd expect ̶h̶u̶g̶e̶ YUGE capital ships to move.

>>51314285
I would totally play in a game where Vader was a figurehead/ military commander. And Tarkin was the beans and bullets gets shit done guy. Working as a team to cruch the rebellion. All the while , neither of their egos will let the other be the preeminent person. So a cold war of backstabbing and covert one upmanship occurs to the backdrop of crushing the Rebellion.

>>51315367
Vader would have remained the supreme commander of the Imperial Military while Tarkin handled more of the governance and logistics of the empire

>>51307030
Up to a fifth of the crew are there to support the rest of the crew - cooks, cleaners, barbers, chaplains, medical staff etc...

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>>51305702
>Sabbacc Fortune guy here. That looks hella cool. I'm gonna show these to my EotE group. Our designed-by-committee medium freighter is all grown up and ready to take on whatever the Outer Rim throws at it


Thanks dude. It was a fun project. Let me know what they thought of it.

>>51314538
>>51314966
If you want to play Star Destroyers,
if you have access to an approximately 6x4 table,
and if you have the patience for its slow pace,
then play Armada.

The objective system is fantastic, and provides some really different experiences from game to game. The game's pace feels right to me for capital ship combat. You really have to plan a couple of rounds ahead (especially on the big ships, where you choose your commands several rounds in advance).

Imperial-class Star Destroyers really are as menacing as they should be in their front arcs, capable of vaporizing small ships in a single salvo with a favorable roll.

And, yeah, every fleet has a commander who gives some fleet-wide benefit (as long as the ship he is on is still in one piece). For example in Imperials: Tarkin gives every ship in his fleet a command token each round, Motti gives all of your ships extra health (based on the size of the ship), and Screed lets you spend a die to turn another die to a side with a crit icon (great for ships rolling lots of black dice).

Every ship also has an officer upgrade slot. There are a bunch of generic officers, but I think there also is one unique officer in every ship pack.

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>>51315555
Vader always was the Dragon, not a general. He's an excellent enforcer and hunter but he'd go mad trying to deal with a protracted campaign. He's a thing you deploy or unleash.

But what you've described sounds like a fantastic backdrop for an Imperial Officers game.

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would a swole stormtrooper with a Heavy repeating blaster he fires like a rifle make a good boss?

pic related

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>>51315873
>Anakin "Darth Vader" Skywalker
>not a general
>can't handle campaigning
You wot m8

>>51311045
>secretly have Alderaan evacuated before blowing it up so no innocents are actually killed

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>>51315915
Good boss design should consider the following:

Movement - Can the boss move and reposition in response to threats? Does it control the terrain? Does it benefit from where the fight is taking place?

Action Economy - a typical group acts 5 times before a Boss acts once, in classic round-based system. Can your Boss deal with this?

Plan - Why is this fight occurring? Could it be avoided? What conditions will cause the fight to end? Does the Boss have an escape plan?

Harm - Can the Boss harm the players? Can they harm it? Are there victory conditions or weaknesses?

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>>51315962
Yeah, the Jedi sure won /that/ war...

The Jedi, at best, were tactical specialists deployed to the front lines to accomplish specific goals. Every time Anakin wandered off, got captured, lost, did something personally, or refused to delegate he failed at being a general.

He might have made a decent squad leader, but a Grand General?

Not his thing.

>>51312380
I am sure that Fractalsponge really likes nucanon design elements (since he sticks them in every adaptation he does) but this is one he could have Dialed Down.

>>51314239
Vader would let it go. Tarkin was as close to a friend as he ever had.

He might grow annoyed at his insistence on technological superiority though.

>>51315995
>movement
well he is by design slow and stationary, but he is supposed to use the broken terrain for cover

>action economy
i might give him troops with the bodyguard talent to absorb hits, or he might just wear custom armor that gives him the ability to soak blasters like so many BB pellets

>plan
escape is not his plan, he is there to be the final obstacle to keep the players from reaching the ship, avoidance is possible but he blocks a chokepoint, he fights to the death

>harm
well, a heavy repeating blaster has a bad reputation for being overly deadly, i might need to tweak his wounds so that overcoming him in a gunfight is possible though not recommended, i was thinking to hint that you can drop the roof on him, or use a missile launcher

My Weequay grew up on Ord Mantell and became cynical of the universe, he has a charisma of 6. By the time he is a teenager he is jaded about the gang wars and violence happening around him. Republic troops show up one day while he is laying low in a bombed out casino. Whats a good planet to be dropped off by the republic military on the way to another conflict that has: Republic association, some sort of child services for him to be watched by a foster family, maybe a military base for them to have some reason to go there, or a resupply station that the republic navy might use? I know hyperspace is a thing, but it should be close to Ord Mantell so it just seems like they got rid of him ASAP

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>>51316102
>Movement
Well, then the broken terrain will also hinder his big gun.

>Action Economy
Troops as flankers and flushers is almost vital. Get the PCs out in the open where they can be gunned down. Use grenades. I don't like soak armour unless it's absolutely necessary. It feels like cheating.

>Plan
But can he fake a retreat to get to a better position? Detonate a bomb if they get too close? Pick a chokepoint for a last stand?

>Harm
Sounds good here.

>>51315962
Anakin was pretty shit as a general in the clone wars, his strategy in almost every single battle was "Rex watch the ship while I go do something really stupid". His idea of a brilliant plan was "Rex come with me, we're doing something really stupid." If not for his prodigious force plot armor and the sheer incompetence of the droids he would have lost all his men and died like 50 times over.

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>>51316102
>or he might just wear custom armor that gives him the ability to soak blasters like so many BB pellets
Maybe give him the armor master talent line?

>escape is not his plan, he is there to be the final obstacle to keep the players from reaching the ship, avoidance is possible but he blocks a chokepoint, he fights to the death
But is escape possible for the party? Can they engage him, then try to outmaneuver to get past him.

personally, with my EotE group being a bunch of non-fighting buffoons, I would play up that he's pretty much impossible to beat in a stand up fight. Have him destroy some redshirts from the get go,but leave multiple option for the party to use the environment to flee/stop him.

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>>51316195
i could move him into an interior setting, with a grid pattern, to allow people to hide and take cover, but if catches them out in the open they dead, and he ponders along slow but strong gunning people down in the open forcing the players to hide often

think vulcan raven from MGS

>action economy
he could have an unbderslung grenade gun, or have his guards throw it for him

>plan
if he gets too wounded, he could fallback and turn into a stationary weapon, or would it be better for him to up his aggression when hurt?

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>>51316256
What about having the PCs approach via an exposed staircase, perpendicular to the action? To descend they have to dodge around columns and the big gun. If they hide being a column the blaster fire starts to melt it. Meanwhile, they can see troopers moving to flank them at the top of the stairs.

If they descend, there are more troopers, and the grid-like system mentioned. Make sure cover is destructible (by the big gun), forcing PCs to move if they want to survive, but also make it tricky to run up and charge him in just one or two turns.

>Underslung grenade gun seems excessive. Get the guards to do it. And not just once - grenades to flush them out of cover is a great idea overall.

No opinion on the fallback plan. Do what feels right for the character. Remember, if he is left alive, he'll be out for blood in some future session.

>>51316314
>mowing down cover
that is a good one
>staircase fight
that sounds like something you would see in the movie, frantically running down the stairs in a shootout

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>>51316021
>Not his thing
I know jack shit about nucanon, but in Legends, campaigning is exactly what Vader did, and he did it with resounding success. After ANH, he led the ground forces that fucked up Yavin Base and captured Dodonna, then spent the years up to ESB leading Death Squadron and the 501st up and down the Outer Rim destroying Rebel assets while chasing Luke and Rebel High Command. He even had an entire campaign to himself in Galactic Battlegrounds, which, obviously, was nothing but a long string of victories in quick succession. The V-man is perfectly capable of leading fleets and armies. He's also apparently got a good eye for talent, as seen with Veers, Daine Jir, Piett, etc. It's likely that he's able to join the front lines precisely because his HR skills have allowed him to pick subordinates who have the skills and initiative to not need babysitting.

I am drunk and lkove uoi guys. FUck /swg/ is the only reason I come on the chan anymore. It's kind of sad, been here since like 2006 and looking back on things I can see how I have grown, fuck. Love you guys, damn I remember posting the Force and Destiny beta shit from gencon here like years ago. Wish FFG would put out more shit, like fuck, what are they doing,.

>>51316428
Playing some Europa right now but /gsg/ are a bunch of whiny bitches. Iron man Papal states btiches. YO SOY THE POPE.

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>>51316415
>because his HR skills
>HR skills

How many people did he choked to death over the years?

Going by the OT alone though, he's definitely an enforcer and a commander, but not a tactician. A fine pilot, a fearsome presence, and a mighty asset on the battlefield, but it would definitely be Tarkin running the political and military side of things.

>>51316457
>How many people did he choked to death over the years?
Not a whole lot, actually. And most of the time, he had good reason to do it (colossal and preventable fuck-ups, declaring independence from the Empire, seeing him unmasked before his writing got consistent, being a mole for Palps and failing to conceal orders to kill Vader, being disposable video game enemies, etc.). Vader also promoted numerous people over the years in Legends, most of whom turned out to be decently competent. There's a reason for why Pellaeon regarded the Executor's loss as a massive brain drain for the Empire.

>>51316415
All through the Clone Wars cartoon(which is canon despite predating the EU Purge) Anakin is shown to be extremely competent even if he's pretty headstrong and cocky and does get himself into trouble.
It's actually a far better portrayal of Anakin than the Prequels ever managed.

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>>51316406
Yup. The whole point is to not only construct your Boss, but to construct possible outcomes, and then design the terrain to be both cinematic and challenging.

>>51316457
I am sorry but vader is fucking whatever the emps wants him to be. He can be as much a tactician as needed.But he doesn't need to be because vader is fucking awesome. Liek he has the world's largest plot armor, nothing can fuck him so he fucks everything else in turn.

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>>51316428

>>51316428
Best thread on the chan

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speaking of women, why is she so perfect?


>maneuverable
>cheap
>Strategic M O B I L I T Y

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>>51316679
>tough
>cheap
>hard as rock

>>51316679
Tie firghtres are so economcial. Xwings get shot down in like 2 hits or even 1. So the tie forgoes shielding and gives the more important agility. Fuck the reblion all hail the Emperor.

>>51316679
Because she's great for padding X-Wing pilots' kill counts

>>51316702
>2 hits or even 1
Not really, no. The Xs and Ys that get shot in the trench only go down after sustained fire and multiple hits, and that's after tanking AA fire during the dive to the trench.

>>51316661
YEah it is

>>51316726
They dodged those hitsm, like in the FFG game, the only actual hit is when crits happen.

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>>51316679
>Not the thinking man's TIE

>>51316726
Infact shielfding in statr wars is far outclasses by the fire power available, Like in reality, armor got outclassed by firepower which is why we got rid of it. So the Tie fighter makes sense when compared to shielded fighters like the xwing.

>>51316756
Interceptor fighters were fuckign crazyh and hte best of the best. Love the fuck out of them.

>>51316744
>dodged those hits
Negative, ghostrider. ANH has a first-person shot of a dive into the trench and laser bolts clearly impact the camera, flash, and cue explosion sound effects. Those are hits. Multiple hits. Then in the trench, Vader has to hold down the trigger. In several versions of ANH, we see multiple hits land on the X-wings before they explode. Meanwhile, Luke and Wedge both kill TIEs at Yavin with one or two direct laser impacts each. At Endor, a Y-wing pilot kills two Interceptors with two pulls of the trigger. There's a very visible difference in durability between shielded and unshielded craft.

>>51316804
yes true, but the hits are an extgra one or two. Not enough to truly give a true advatange. At most a two to one.

Is strength in the force purely luck/genetic based and can you get stronger through practice?
I know non-force user parents can make a force baby and force strength is strong in certain families, but can training make you telekinetic stronk?

>>51316842
that about double or triples your effective toughness if you think about it

>>51316857
Strength in the force is dependent on if you are a skywalker or not. If you are you have a base higher then everyone else of y and your strength is y+traingion., if not you start at a default base of x and your strength is based on x+training.

>>51316842
the actual crucial difference is that it makes shielded ships effectively immune to flak bursts and other forms of blast damage that would shread TIEs, which is a pretty goddamn big advantage

>>51316903
of course deault means default of your race. Like yoda race is z while human race is x where z>x.

>>51316766
Thrawn outright states that a shielded fighter would be an incredibly useful addition, so it seems that shields are considered pretty useful

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>>51316842
>an extra one or two
That extra one or two could be crucial. Luke takes a shot to the engine at Yavin. Thanks to shields and armor, the damage is minor and easily repaired. If he didn't have shields, Luke could have lost an engine and maybe even seen a fuel detonation or some other catastrophic event. Those shields also bought let Biggs and Wedge give Luke those last few crucial seconds he needed to hold out. Not to mention the fact that Wedge would probably have never survived without his X-wing's durability.

In a more general sense, that could be all the opening a pilot needs to fly towards backup, hyperjump away, complete an attack run, or shake off the target and recharge. Imagine being Saburo Sakai and facing off against that one ridiculously durable Wildcat in his infamous anecdote, except that Wildcat now has a healing factor.

>>51316917
Ehh stations are only the real place for flak bursts and station are rare enough and honestly against fighters ties are good enough. Ayt empire level you need ot think about what is god enugh not perfect. Becuse you got more to think about. Rebels need to be perferct, Empire need to be good enough.

>>51316928
fighter combat in SW is usually something like rocket tag, since you often go down in seconds, so even a few extra seconds to live can be very decisive

>>51316979
True but it is that hyperdrive capablity that is the most important. You can defeat as many tie saas ou want but if you got no carrier to go back to then your fucked.

Is there a good Savage Spirits scan yet?

gona sleep but bef0re anyone one ask a questoine>

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>>51317437
Son, you are too drunk, too stoned, or too young to be on the internet right now. Pack it in.

>>51317437
You ever wonder why we're here?

>>51317437
Sir, how much have you had to drink tonight?

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>>51317458
What's it all about, you've no idea.
And everywhere you look, all you see is hatred
And darkness, death and fear.

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>>51317492
But you know it doesn't have to be
That I hate you, and you hate me.
Cause even though we're different, it doesn't make a difference
And we can live in harmony!

>>51317455
Honestly probs. But don't care, I am with my my type of people.

>>51317458
Sometimes I do. I try to think of my part in the while clockwork of the world. Then I remember I am a small fucking part. But then I remember that my fiancee is fuckin comes from a rich as fuck family and I'll be retiring early with millions. Only need to surive 20+ year/ds. I know I shouldb't carw about money but fuck man. Millions. Around the time her parents dead that should be an inheritance of around 50 million, fuck man. I come from a poor as fuck family. Like communist poor siht., I got lucky as fuck I own her in all sort of ways.

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>>51317507
No, you don't know who I am
But maybe I could hold your hand
And together we can understand about love!

>>51317487
Ehh arouns 8 beers and 3 shots.

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>>51317537
>Huh, I feel all tingly!

Yes, that's love, my friend, and it's time for you to learn all about it!

>>51317549
shit, I've had fucking more than you have
step it up bud

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>>51317560
Do you ever feel like life's unfair
Cause everybody hates you, and no one cares!
But if you follow me
Maybe you'll see
That love is everywhere!

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>>51317573
>What is love, is it in the sky?

No, it's a feeling, deep inside!

>Because I'm hungry.

No, you're lonely!
I can see it in your eyes


>I don't understand.


Don't worry! You will soon. Come and meet some of my friends; they know all about love Come on, just over the rainbow!

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>>51317549
Lightweight.

That's nothing. I pregamed for the inauguration and have been keeping it going throughout the day/night.

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>>51317563
Will do man. Recently lost alot of weight, so this shit affect me a lot more then usal.

>>51317591
>>51317599
Meh related. Honestly worries more about the carbs and calories then actual drunk effect. Why is beeer so carbs.

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>>51317591
You know, in our apartment, we have a very simple rule about US politics.

Between 5pm and midnight, anyone who mentions US politics in any capacity must do penance and sing "God Save the Queen"*. On a second offense, they are put in the hallway for a 5 minute time out. On the third offense, we ask them politely but firmly to leave. Possibly via the balcony.

/tg/ is a happy place. Why do you bring politics here?

*Or mumble it. Or sing the Sex Pistols version

>>51317599
I mean step up on the not being hammered after only eleven drinks.
don't step up the drinking tonight, you may not survive

>>51317626
if we go by X-wing canon, Finn is only for Rey, and Kanan is there for some reason

we need a TV show that follows X-wing canon
>kylo and vader on the same ship
>main characters of OT are luke, han, and C3PO
>Jumpamasters are always blowing things up
>headhunters are used often as cannon fodder

>>51317635
I thought you were a light weight ship. Good on you.

I have a master liver because I basically binge drink and play FFG every weekend. I will die young

>>51317635
sure thing anon, I\'ll be back in the future drunk again so hopefully I;'lll have drunk more.

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>>51317664
>TIES operate in squadrons of 4-5 terrible pilots and one kind of decent pilot
>Turrets on everything that can feasible fit a turret
>Palpatine spends most of his time doodling around and making people suffer, drive-by style

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>>51317664
>a TV show that follows X-wing canon
>Kylo Ren
>Existing in the 1990s
You wot m8

>>51317682
>I thought you were a light weight ship
I'm six feet seven inches of pure liquor. If I'm drunk on here it's because I've drank way too fucking much. Or I'm on mobile and giant thumbs=fucked up words even sober, let alone drunk

>>51317694
Wrong X-wing you nerf herder. He means FFG.

>>51317688
>Palpatine leads from the front in his personal pimp-mobile, using his dark force powers to lead his men
>Wedge and Poe are high-school tier rivals racking up kill streaks

>>51317715
>XWM even having a canon
What, would it be a show about Kyle and Jan REEEEing at the sight of those copycat newfags Jyn and Cassian?

>>51317730
Jan ors is just happy to see Cassian use his team leader ability to clear her stressed out systems

kyle is afraid of leaving jan in the same room as Cassian "latino spice" andor for too long

>>51317711
SHPIFAG I LOVE YOU. Drunk fag here and seeing shipfag has made me post and my fart smeel terrilbe so thers tjhat. Man, been month;s since I have been like this.,

What's the general consensus on Star Wars Imperial Assault? My girlfriend and I like playing Skirmish type games and our gaming group is always picking up new games to play. Just wondering if it's a good time or not. My LGS has tons of the expansion packs around. I was thinking of grabbing a couple just to paint if nothing else

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>>51317761
>Implying Cassian's spiciness could compete with Kyle "Doomguy" Katarn's jawline, muscles, and wine-making skills

Looking at the other two active Star Wars threads on the board makes me really grateful that you guys are pretty chill.

What do I need to really finish getting into X-Wing minis? I got a bunch of stuff a while ago but I got intimidated by people at the flgs who had two of everything and were super into it and had all of the cards.

I want to play scum so I've got the main scum box and an extra Y-wing, Z-95, and the Starviper, then I've got the core set and the extra Tie fighter too.

If I want to do well, do I need to buy one of everything so I have access to all the cards? I was thinking of grabbing a Hound's Tooth because it's awesome and I like Dengar, and then the quadjumper coming out soon looks hilarious.

>>51317821
I have no follow up suggestion for which list you could focus on, but build a list you like and buy only the elements you need to run that list. A good tip is buying the cards you need from broken down kits off eBay.

>>51317730

Jyn-Jan is actually good combo.

>>51317664
>Sabine hangs out with K-wing patrols, dropping bombs everywhere, all the time.
>Biggs is a member of every squadron of X-wings, and keeps getting shot down.
>Manaroo is a huge slut who hangs out with every pirate on the outer rim

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>>51317812
It seems to vary. That Nosebro guy is an old-school troll who thinks there's still merit in it, but overall, yeah, I like it here.

>>51317821
If you really want to be "top tier scum" you'll really just need two or three jumpmasters and maybe a protectorate fighter, hound's tooth and a lancer.
If you want to be something other than a cancerous douchebag just get whatever you want, you can make a functioning list out of basically anything and outside of tournaments only assholes won't let you proxy cards you don't have.

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>>51317890
>Manaroo is a huge slut who hangs out with every pirate on the outer rim

Wait, I thought we were talking about changes to canon?

>>51317890
>BIGGS MY OFFICE!
>YOU COST US OVER A DOZEN X-WINGS THIS MONTH!
>DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THATS COSTING THE ALLIANCE!

>>51317942
>Hobbie laughing bitterly because he should be the one crashing X-wings everywhere
>Too bad nobody will take him
>So he drinks himself to death with the other benchwarmer pilots

>>51317821
Hounds Tooth is good, and provides a nice set of upgrades. It's something of a lumbering bus, but the massive firing arc and white turns make it able to keep targets in sight.

Jumpmaster is awesome. Manaroo as a brilliant support ship, and Dengar being one of the top aces in high level play. This is actually something that you might want to get two of.

The Protectorate Starfighter is a great little ace, and Fenn Rau is a beast when you close to range one.

G-1A Starfighter is not bad, and the Zuckuss crew card is currently one of the most effective upgrades in the game.

The Syck, Kirhaxz, and Starviper are all so-so. I fully expect them to be fixed in the fullness of time, as FFG is generally pretty good about that. The new scum epic comes with some more upgrades for the syck, so we'll see exactly how much it gets used going forward.

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>>51316699
You are an anon of taste and class. Keep doing what you're doing.

>>51318314
>leave off all the armor because it's a bitch to maintain

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>>51318355
All about those shields, anon.

And a fighter that flies and then gets shot down is still better than one that doesn't fly at all. Repairs are tricky.

>>51318355
those were just decorative panels, the rest of it is still rock hard

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Does anyone have recommendations for Star Wars music that bridges the gap between Morricone and Williams?

Something orchestral, but with flute/guitar as well. The sort of music you'd hear when watching a landspeeder drive towards a dusty frontier city.

>>51318731
Give https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9B4051A08A65C57B a try.

>>51318731
The Firefly / Serenity soundtrack is a pretty good match.

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>>51318814
Thanks, I've trawled it, but there might be something in that list I missed.

>>51318830
That's a brilliant idea.

I'm looking for something /close/ to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B0M1lVuFo4
But with slightly less repetition, no piano, and perhaps a flute section.

I've build a soundboard/playlist for my game, so I can add in tracks and sound effects, live, as the game is progressing. All I need now is that /one/ perfect track to play right after the opening crawl.

What do Ganks look like?

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>>51319011

new thread would be a good idea now

>>51319029
Ganks got edgy since their OT art.

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>>51318981
Has the conversation below ever made a damn lick of sense, in light of the prequels?

+++++

LUKE: No, my father didn't fight in the wars. He was a navigator on a spice freighter.

OBI-WAN: That's what your uncle told you. He didn't hold with your father's ideals. Thought he should have stayed here and not gotten involved.

LUKE: You fought in the Clone Wars?

OBI-WAN: Yes. I was once a Jedi knight, the same as your father.

LUKE: I wish I'd known him.

OBI-WAN: He was the best starpilot in the galaxy and a cunning warrior. I understand you've become quite a good pilot yourself. And he was a good friend. Which reminds me, I have something here for you. Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough, but your uncle wouldn't allow it. He feared you might follow old Obi-Wan on some damn-fool idealistic crusade like your father did.

+++++

I'd always interpreted it as "Anakin and Owen grew up on a dustball world in the middle of nowhere. Obi-Wan shows up, mucks around, meets Anakin, and convinces him to leave and train as a Jedi Knight and fight in a righteous war of some kind. Owen is pissed, but accepts it. One day, years later, tricky old Obi-Wan turns up with a baby and says "Owen, your brother is dead. Here's his kid. I'll be around." And Owen goes "Fuck off, you got my brother killed. Stay away from my farm you crazy old space wizard."

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>>51318731
Been listening to bits of the Sicario soundtrack lately by Johann Johannson
Couple of tracks there-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vx8eUVQIK8
This is more percussion based but damn... so good through the subs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkWl5ctiWyM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC7iGFQ9ICQ

Two steps from Hell do some ok stuff too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ1y_Z6Bc0M

If these Trees could Talk- great composition and guitar work, worth getting their albums if you like instrumental music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3yEvKHhwqw

>>51319011
>>51319029

Headcanon: Ganks aren't a species, but are Outer Rim slang for folks with lots of combat implants.

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>>51319100
When Luke is 18 or so, Ob-Wan turns up and goes "Hey Owen, your brother would have wanted his son to have this laser sword. It's an elegant weapon from a more civilized..."
"Fuck off," says Owen, "he'll cut his head off with that thing! Why would a farmer need a sword like that? Go back to the desert, old man."