Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>51249589

Pipefox! Very cute!

Posting the discord for the persistent world project from last thread. Current topics: Quantum fog of war and Dwarven cities.
https://discord.gg/hTZxEx8

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>>51249589
Asmodean Advocate gets a snake familiar. Mine is an asp. I call him Aspmodeus.

>>51249589
None. I dislike having familiars/Psicrystals/etc.

The one time I played a witch it was a tiefling that kept his snake familiar in his pants.

>>51249589
>What's your favorite familiar?
I haven't played Pathfinder, but if there's an option to play a kitsune spellcaster with a kuda-gitsune familiar I might.

>>51249762
If kuda-gitsune are pipefoxes, then you're in luck.

>>51249589
In ym 5e campaign my chain warlock has a pseudodragon familiar that's basically a massive housecat, and is like half her weight because of how tiny she is.
Needless to say, wearing a big lizard like a scaly scarf gets her some weird looks.

Alright /pfg/, I've been reading Dungeon Defense because FFXIV is down for maintenance, and kinda like the idea for a campaign.

>PCs would be generals/low-tier demon lords or what not
>In charge of castles/villages/towns or something
>Politics, nobility, social maneuvering, kingdom-building
>Occasional rising heroes that must be stopped

What say you /pfg/?

>>51249855
That sounds cool?

What does char gen look like?

>>51249855
>>51249872
This
I'd be interested, but only if chargen wasn't a clusterfuck

>>51249872
>>51249884
No idea yet.

I personally like 1+3pp, 25pb and a level 5 start. Gestalt is a neat thing, but I see it as a high-op option more than build enabler, so idk about that one.

Golarion: y/n?
Lewds: y/n?

>>51249917
Golarion:N
Lewds:N, but I personally don't care what players do via PM.

>>51249917
Y
Y
I like gestalt because I'm a new player and it means I don't have to make as many meaningful choices.

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>>51249953
>Don't have to make as many meaningful choices.
>Literally twice the choices
What did he mean by this?

>>51249917
What 3p?

Golarion Y (unless eberron is on the table)
Lewd Y

>>51249953
Honestly, Gestalt forces you into a lot more choices. It's super easy to get left in the dust.
>>51249917
What 3pp? Path of War? Psionics? Spheres? Jolly stuff?

Any leaks of the Qadira book yet?

>>51249917
Fine with either
Y, because degeneracy sells

>>51249973
If I pick one shit class, the other can make up for the deficiencies.

>>51249978
If the game's at a high optimization level, I'm fucked anyhow, so I'm not to worried about being left behind.

>>51249977
Also, holy fuck this
Eberron makes me moister than an oyster.

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>>51250013
>Also, holy fuck this

Eberron is the greatest tabletop setting to come out of recent memory.

>>51249977
>>51249978
I guess DSP, SoP, Forrest's and N. Jolly's works? I'm admittedly not the most familiar with Jolly/Forrest's stuff. Would there be particular 3pp you guys would want to see/want to not see?

I've never looked into Eberron, and wouldn't know where to start. Not opposed, just completely inexperienced.

>>51250090
Hoo boy, wrong answer there! Don't you know /pfg/ hates PoW and SoP now?

>>51250090
Eh, DSP is kinda meh for me. SOP/Jolly/Forrest is good though.

And please find the core book for eberron, it's the best setting.

>>51250104
We do? I've been gone for a while and a lot changes, I guess.

>>51250084
m a g i c
b o d y
t a t t o o s

>>51250090
>>51250104
PoW is cool as long as you make it clear that obvious attempts to fuck the game aren't alright.
Also, good god above, look into Eberron.

>>51250114
>Eh, DSP is kinda meh for me.
Psionics is good.

>>51250133
Psionics is, but PoW will hopefully be invalidated by SoM.

>tfw I like PoW
I don't understand why all the hate. Is it just because the errata hasn't come out yet?

>>51250191
It's because all of these high profile campaigns came out with PoW allowed. People don't hate it, they just hate whatever the norm is.

>>51250191
They liked it back when it was, like, really obscure, man, you wouldn't understand it.

But then it got all popular, all, like, mainstream. Sold out. And it sucks. The sound's not as good and the lyrics are The Man, you know? Sure they hadn't actually put out other books, so it's still the same ones from back then, but it's not the same at all.

Well, it's pretty deep, I wouldn't expect you to understand.

>>51250114
>>51250122
Does Eberron have low-tier demon-lords that could do some kingdom-building, and harem-building since the thread might want that?

>>51250191
I'm not sure either, though I don't know what SoM is.

Here's other questions:
Feat tax removals?
All races getting a "+2 any physical, +2 any mental, -2 any" thing, to help combat choosing races for stats?

>>51250266
That score setup system seems really interesting, so races can be more flavorful than mechanical, although race traits would still be important.
Also, Eberron has noble houses and dragon bloodlines and body tats, pretty much everything you could ever want in a setting

>>51250157
Eh, it's not going to be. SoM smacks a bit too close of "hurr numbers" just the same as PoW does. Both are going to need some serious edits before I'd include them in any game I ran.

>5k gold = 100lbs of weight

How do you manage high values of currency and wealth?

>>51250191
Literally just being disliked because it's popular and it's cool to speak against it now.

I even bet the "Jolly+Forrest" anon is the same guy every time.

>3 hours till Dragon Game picks

>>51250311
Gemstones, Platinum pieces, art, spending it on shit.

>>51250323
I thought it was 2, unless I'm retarded.
Central is GMT-6, right?

>>51250328
Bank notes

>>51250293
>so races can be more flavorful than mechanical
That'd be more or less the point.. Not sure if it's a good idea, but I'd like to see what happens.

>>51250323
Best of luck to all applicants of Dragongame!

>>51250311
Bags of holding

>>51249780
Yep. That's neat, though. Got a link?

>>51250352
I love the idea, but have no clue how it would work out from a balance perspective.
Would humans and half elves still have the option to just take a +2 in a single score?

>>51250337
He needs an hour after close to announce

>>51250377
I think I'd let all races do that, just drop the -2 into one of the +2's and boom, only +2 in any score.

>>51250399
You sound like someone I'd want to play with.
I love having loads of player choice and customization..

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>>51250410
You too my man.

Should I just look for the Eberron Campaign Setting Book? I did want to try my hand at home-brewing a setting, but a pre-established one sounds nice, though less of a fit.

How about the campaign itself, any thoughts on that?

>>51250471
>Should I just look for the Eberron Campaign Setting Book? I did want to try my hand at home-brewing a setting, but a pre-established one sounds nice, though less of a fit.

Eberron is pretty much the best settings out there, it'd work wonderfully though I'd say you could find far better uses for it.

>>51249589
>What's your favorite familiar?
Depends on what I need.

Magus - Ioun Wyrd, because you need that +2 nat armor bonus and blindsight

Wizard - Anything that offers a +4 initiative bonus, because your role as crowd control is predicated upon you casting first.

Sorc - Raven or Parrot, because if you're gonna make use of that high charisma, might as well your talking bird complements you by granting bonus to diplomacy while also using your own skill checks.

Improved Familiar? I only have one true favorite. The Shikigami - because with fast-healing, construct traits and DR, combined with the Bodyguard familiar archetype, effectively doubles your casters effective HP by proxy.

>>51250471
Find the Eberron book even if you don't use it for demon lord game, my dude.
It's the magnum opus of tabletop game settings.

As for the campaign idea, I fucking love it. Demons are always fun to play with, as well as the concepts of primordial sin and vice.

>>51250530
It might be less "primordial sin and vice" and more "hierarchy of solomon's demons". Like more Dragon Quest/Final Fantasy than DOOM.

>>51250624
Either way is great.
Be sure to shill the fuck out of it when/if you get an LFG set up.

>>51250673
Yeah, that might be in a while since I'd need to read through the Eberron book, figure some basic setting stuff out, and play shit ton of FFXIV first.

>>51250624
How am I supposed to have huge guts as a weebdemon though?

>>51250761
You aren't, nerd!

>>51250761
>hierarchy of solomon's demons
>weeb
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>51250812
So, who here owns a copy of the Goetia?

>>51250525
Ioun Wyrd is +1 to AC.

>>51250871
I'm Jewish. I got a full Talmud.

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>>51250925

>>51250937
When I lay it on a bookshelf it stretches from end to end.

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>>51250965

>>51251076

You miserable slut, you know you can handle it.

I am a Sorcerer. I take an Abyssal Bloodline Familiar.

My Familiar's Damage Dice are increased by 1 step.

I now make my familiar a Mauler.

>Battle Form (Su)
>At 3rd level, a mauler gains the ability to transform into a larger, more ferocious form and back at will. In battle form, the mauler's size becomes Medium and the mauler gains a +2 bonus to Strength (this stacks with the normal Strength adjustments for increasing in size).
>(this stacks with the normal Strength adjustments for increasing in size)

That paragraph is the important part. Under Monster Advancement rules for size changing.

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules-for-monsters/monster-advancement
We have a chart for size changing.

As well one can cast spells on a familiar that don't normally target it because share spells. So enlarge person is game.

Then I am a human who takes feats for evolved familiar.

Fox have by far the large strength for their size.

In the end this means at level 3 as Sorcerer 1/Eldritch Guardian Fighter 2 I have the following:
>Racoon base strength: 9
>After Battleform: 19
>With Increased Strength: 20
>With Enlarge Person: 22
>Evolved Familiar for Claws
>Familiar shares Power Attack with you
>Bite/Claw/Claw
>+8 to hit
>4d6+1d8+24

At the cost of 1 feat and also being a level 1 sorcerer. Though the build itself can do without those levels in fighter so the familiar doesn't have power attack.

>>51251117
the familiar stat boost by turning medium works under the "enlarge person" stat bonuses and not the monster advancement rules.

>>51251117
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic#TOC-Transmutation-Polymorph

>>51250471
Eberron doesn't fit too well with demon lords (doesn't really fit the cosmology), but it DOES go great with nation-building type stuff and monstrous characters in general. In the setting, a 100-year-old war just ended 5 years ago, and everyone's still picking up the pieces, to the point that there's an entire small nation of monsters, lizardfolk, etc that formed because all the majority humanoid countries had the shit kicked out of them too much from the war to intervene.

You have 45 until submissions close.

Have Healer's Handbook scans been posted?

>>51251195
Phew! Just submitted my small dumb fighter dragon girl.

>>51251195
45 what?

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>mfw our session devolved into Christopher Walken impressions and discussing how we could smuggle Jeremy Irons out of a city in a Bag of Holding, and the prospects of having a Dead Jeremy Irons we shove out to resurrect.

>>51251230

44, 43, 42, 41...

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>>51249589
>what's your favorite familiar
Symbiote!

>>51251149
Then from Tiny to Medium with BATTLEFORM is a total +8 rather than +10, meaning it'll have 20 Str.

>>51251274
There's a symbiote familiar? Please tell me more.

>>51251274
>not Figment Tumor
Why even play if you're not playing a hypochondriac?

>>51251244
If you're going to rez anyways, you only need a finger!

>do you trust your party enough to slit your own throat when you get captured?

>>51251291
Of course then there's bull's strength.
Would form of the dragon or giant form stack with battle form?

>>51251117
>>51251291
Tiny to Small is +4 STR/-2 DEX, there's no additional size modifier from Small to Medium. You get another +2 STR on top of that from the battleform ability itself for a total of +6, not +8.

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>>51251274
Do you mean that one from Legendary Villains: Vigilantes?

Well. Half an hour left before Dragongame closes, and all my character's missing is her items.

Could be worse!

>>51251444
Spend all your gold on an item that boosts Profession (courtesan).

>>51251467
give list

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What are your experiences with royalty, /pfg/? Pleasant? Unpleasant? Violent? Embarrassing?

>>51251509

I love royalty!

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>>51251485
this work?

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>>51251295
>>51251432
yiss

by raw you can give it Evolved Familiar for some nice energy resistance, but since Jolly said you can't give it improved familiar, maybe that's not actually a thing

>>51251485
The standard pricing is 2,500 gp for a +5 competence bonus to a skill. Armillary amulet, goggles of minute seeing, etc. There aren't any ones that specifically apply to Profession (courtesan), but you could see if the GM would approve it.

>>51251509
A lot of different ones actually.

The moment I realized the old senile king who has been pissing himself and giggling while his children plot his accidental death not only wasn't senile, but had been controlling the secret police through a proxy and the high priest was in on it fucking terrified me.

The moment was "Do you believe the empire could be held together by squabbling children" as the bent back old man stood up straight and looked my character in the idea was spooky. Then the moment I realized we had just been discussing killing one of his kids sent me into overdrive.

>>51251528
Bunny outfit; ears, wrist cuffs, and pantyhose all enchanted.

>>51251528
phooey, only have 235 gold to buy odds and ends with

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>>51251532
I said that about going improved familiar with it, evolved familiar is just fine. If I didn't, that's what I meant to clear up confusion.

>>51251555
Well, you can get a mundane version of what >>51251553 suggests for the time being, and pick up enchantments when you've earned your keep

Hm.

What would you call a pair of glasses that work as a divination spherestaff?

>>51251509
Interesting, in a word. I spent half the campaign convinced that the noblewoman I'd been married off to was going to betray me, since a) I'd gained my current power by killing two of her cousins, and b) I knew the GM and most of the other players to be Song of Ice and Fire fans.

Turns out, the secret plotting behind my back she'd been doing was actually to make our kingdom more powerful, and she ended up carrying us through a fight with a pit fiend when it turned out she had both a dozen levels in Paladin, and had picked up a half-celestial template.

All in all, it turned out pretty damn well.

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>>51251579
"Stupid glasses of the dumb nerd idiot"

>>51251570
>>51251555
If it's for dragon game, I've got craft wondrous item and a lot of craft and professions skills, if we both get accepted!

>>51251606
I'm not a nerd gosh heckin' darnit shut up!

>>51251579

Spectacles of the soon-to-be-bullied.

>>51251551
For reference we then learned the guy was a level 14 Imperious Bloodline Sorcerer.

>>51251619
hope you can foresee your way out of getting bullied

Speaking of familiars. How many feats (if any) do familiars get? I can't seem to find a section on that.

>>51251621
>>51251634
Sh-shush!

I uh... took Divine Information.

>>51251619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COBpmMdTUu4

Well.

Bullying or not, Freyda is done.

Now, nothing to do but hope.

>>51251683

Besides being a huge fucking nerd that probably smells and stutters at the mere sight of a man, tell us more about her!

>>51251568
What's the difference between Surging Symbiote and Symbiotic Empowerment? The latter seems to be a straight upgrade aside from the boost to initiative. It's a scaling alchemical bonus, so they don't stack, but surging only lasts a limited time, only lets you choose str OR dex while empowerment gives both at once, and surging leaves the user fatigued afterward. It also scales slower!

>Excited for HV later today
>Excited for RotJR-GM to pick the party

So much excitement /pfg/!

>>51251728
Well she's a big blue 7 foot dragon lady who loves magic and learning.

She has Telekinesis, Divination, and a little bit of Warp For Extradimensional Storage to hold her books and stuff.

She breathes ice.

She sings in the shower and loves pastries.

She knows more about most things than most people learn in their lives.

And she doesn't smell!

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>>51249589
I had a thrush familiar named Kiwi. Kiwi got roasted alive when the party was ambushed by a group of spellcasting nagas who were very fond of the Fireball spell. We ate five Fireballs during the surprise round, then two more during the normal round before any of us actually got turns. Then I remembered there's a little line in the description of my Necklace of Fireballs about them exploding if I roll a nat 1 on a save against a fire effect. I rolled a nat 1 on a save against a fire effect.

Familiar dead. Rogue KO'd and bleeding out. Druid being flanked by zombie minions. Just had a valuable magic item that was wrapped around my neck explode. My Magus was not a happy man that day, and to make matters worse we still couldn't actually see the enemy casters. We realized it must have been Greater Invisibility and the Oracle threw up an Invisibility Purge. My Magus threw on all his buffs and hacked through the zombies quick-like while the Druid and Bard did the Druid-thing and Bard-thing, respectively. When we actually got at the nagas, they had buffed themselves up with Blur, and we had some really bad luck with getting through that miss chance.

Let me tell you, by this point my PC's rage had passed on to me, I was legit pissed at these snakey assholes who ambushed us literally out of nowhere. I'd never thought before, never REALLY thought, about what the phrase "impotent rage" meant, but I figured it out very quickly because I wanted to just wreck these jerks when I got in melee range but there was nothing I could do to negate the miss chance and damn if they weren't lucky. DM rolled it out on the table too, so I know he wasn't fudging rolls against us.

We did kill them eventually, but it was not satisfying. Those naga casters- those ones specifically- might be my and my character's second most hated enemies from the entire campaign (outranking the BBEG even), trumped only by the genocidal hate my NG PC reserved exclusively for will-o-wisps.

>>51251788
What can nagas do against such reckless hate? Cast blur apparently.

Poor Kiwi.

>F

What are some nice three-piece motifs/themes? I want to use one for a tree of magic items that will eventually fuse into a conscious being when brought in close proximity. I'm considering "Mind, Body, Soul" but that'd be a bit obvious and hard to execute my campaign for reasons. Another idea I had is "Light, Dark, Void", but that's really just because light and dark are easy themes and void just kind of gets stapled on to make it a triad.

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>>51251730
Symbiotic empowerment gives a bonus on checks, which is stuff like ability and skill checks, while Surging Symbiote gives an actual increase to the stat, which boost attack rolls, damage rolls, AC and other stat dependent issues.

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>>51251850
A-are you asking for my three sizes?!?

>>51251864
...yyyyyeeeesss?

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>>51251879
I'm not sure I can say that here

And aren't we supposed to take it slower than that?

>>51251775
Exciting explosions will be happening!

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THE APPLICATIONS ARE NOW CLOSED! THE FINAL LIST IS UPON US!

>>51251940
Come oooooon, let me have gotten iiiiiin...

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>>51251914
Taking it slow isn't my style, anon. Besides, even if it were, I couldn't control myself around a cutie like you.

>>51251940
A H H H H H H H

>>51251825
Yeah, it was a shame. Kiwi was normally perched on my character's shoulder and just flying next to him unless either I said otherwise or we were in combat (because the DM and I had the agreement that Kiwi's first action in any combat would be to fly away from danger). Normally that was sufficient to keep him safe, since the enemies wouldn't gun for a little bird watching from afar when the PCs are attacking, but in this case it occurred to me that with a spam of AoE attacks he logically should have been hit by, I should roll init for him to see if he could have escaped before he would have been KO'd. I think if it hadn't been for my Necklace of Fireballs he might have survived, but I don't remember the damage numbers.

I did get him rezzed later though, so I guess it worked out.

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>>51251964
How about some headpats to bridge the gap?

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>>51251940

The first character in is

PRINCESS CELISSE DE AVERNON!

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>>51251850

Compassion, frugality, humility? Salt, sulfur, mercury? Breath, spirit, repose? Maiden, mother, crone? Earth, sea, air? One policeman to read, one to write, one to keep an eye on the two intellectuals?

>>51251940
Can you link to the roll20 so we can see the winners' stats?

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>>51251981
Oh fuck, you're doing it NOW!?!?!

I'm not ready for this!

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>>51251981

The second character in is...

LAMEEKA THE KOBOLD!
>>51252005
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4420260/character-applications

>>51252023
LEWD BOLD

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>>51251981
>>51252023
>mfw watching the characters come out, knowing I won't be one of them

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>>51251977
I'll give you all the headpats you can take, anon. And then some more.

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>>51251981
>>51252023
I WAS ABOUT TO GO TO BED BUT INSTEAD YOU OPENED THE FLOODGATES, FUCK.

GIVE IT TO ME! I NEED IT ALL!

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SALT INCOMING

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>>51252023
The Third Character is...

ASTARTE!

SINCE FUCKING WHEN WERE THERE 35 APPLICATIONS

>>51252053
>>51252060
TACTICAL SALT INCOMING

>>51251636

Familiars get any feat listed in their stat block. They don't advance by HD so they don't get any more.

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>>51251981
>I got in
>Every session will now involve Dragon and her tales of Darling

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

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>>51252023
oh shiiii-

bold butt op

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>>51252075
It will be glorious!

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>>51252063
Alright then!

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>>51252063
The Fourth Character is

FREYDA CULDRANTH

>>51252098
Crying Sansei makes me cry

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>>51252103

The Fifth Character is...

ZEVORYKALYUKANAR

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>>51252063
>constantly stuck in a suit
but how will she catch dragon dicc without taking off the suit?

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>>51252049
Will you praise me too?

Side bar: God do I love me some salty applicants.

>>51252063
>>51252134
If she takes off the suit, will she die?

>>51252004
Thanks for the suggestions, the second and fifth ones in particular are intriguing and could work.

>>51252140
stop profitting from my sadness!

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>>51252131
The final Character is......

>>51252160
Better not be Doug!

>>51252160
you son of a bitch
will you be giving minor criticisms on the ones that don't make it in?

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>>51252160
GIVE IT TO ME RIGHT HERE

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>>51252154
IT FUELS ME! I MUST CONSUME THE SALT

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>>51252160

SPITFIRE ATOLM!


Once again the final load out is

Zevorykalyukanar
Lameeka
Astarte
Atolm
Freyda
Celisse

oh well

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>>51252191
god damn it

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>only waifus made it in

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>>51252191
>tfw you got in but still get emotional because of all the friends and cool anons that didn't

>>51252103
ENGAGE BULLYING NOW

>>51252174
Seconding.

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wew lads

>>51252191

I think you're gonna get a flood of PMs, but let me know if you wanna turn Araeli into an NPC. I could do write ups for you or wharever.

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Pacific suicide club meet up time?

>>51252206

Five women, one cat sized dragon man

>>51252228
3pm tomorrow at OB skatepark?

>>51252229
Who were your runner ups?

>>51252206
I really don't think that the crystalbug-dude-dragon is a waifu.

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>>51252228
>>51252236

>>51252229
>>51252240
So it'll be a harem anime?

>>51252229
Runner ups please, give me the extra crippling depression if I was one of them. Or at least have some people on stand by if people drop.

>>51252134
Brilliant energy "weapons".

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>>51252140
I'll give you all sorts of praise, especially for being so cute.

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>>51252296
I-I'm cute? Maybe you aren't so bad then.

Should I even get hopes up for Demon-lord/eberron game?

>>51252342
Eberron/Demonlord is my only hope, after this crushing rejection.
Two in the same number of days, and my first two characters at that.

>>51252238

Runner ups were,

Andus Nuclear Dragon Sounded really good, But i couldn't have three players larger than huge.

the Dragon Monks (They were both great, however you could easily cut an paste these guys into pretty much any campaign.)

Reina Traveler (I liked her too, however she gave off the feeling of "I use this character for everything" I dont know why though. )

Aisha Enkidu (Damn it she was cool, I will be stealing her for ideas.)

Araeli. (Loved the idea of her transforming into a more dragony form)

Leori Nychel (I love croupiers and their concept, however there was really stiff competition. Not bad for your first PF character.)

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>>51252342
You're super cute! And you totally should, what would you want to make for it anyway?

>>51252377
Honestly, speaking as one of those dragon monks, I gotta admit I actually did recycle his build from another campaign.

Glad I could at least contribute a little NPC lore though.

>>51252377
im sorry i didnt even stand out boyos

i wanted to monster HUNT it up and ride pcs.

oh well maybe next time

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>>51252377
sO tHIS IS dESPAIR

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I didn't even apply for Dragon Game, and I could feel the assholes of all kinds of anons clenching up while DragonDM rolled out the roster.

>>51252389
Well GM hasn't given us any info on the campaign beyond "kingdom/harem-building, politics, and dealing with hero upstarts" so I'm not sure. A stronk knight/warlord might be cool, as would a sultry caster/military official Onee-san

>>51252377
>tfw you get beaten out just because there's outstanding apps to your above average one
Well, I only hope Leori can serve well as an NPC, or something of the sort.

>>51252377
I'm sorry I didn't make a better character. I should've submitted Rust Dragon that loves cutely munching on weapons when the rest of the party has their backs turned

>>51252377
>Stealing her for ideas
Aaaaand you're going to consult the person who made the character, yes? That's a low blow just to say.

>>51252440
I want to play a marilith!

>>51252377
>Aisha Enkidu (Damn it she was cool, I will be stealing her for ideas.)
>Araeli. (Loved the idea of her transforming into a more dragony form)
These two know the truest of despair.

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>>51252430
I live for this. I can't wait for RotJR DM's picks to drop.

>>51252258
Atolm can only hope. At the very least he'll always be kept on his toes "because there's girls watching".

Then again he might be in a hopeless situation instead since he'll probably screw up.

>>51252430
I was physically trembling to the point of actually pulling a muscle in my neck
This is hurt

>>51252465
That's a game I actually applied for, and I'm terrified!

s-surely the anons neglected here will get in fluffy or rotjr right

>>51252524
man, I don't even want in to Fluffy anymore

I'm just going to go fucking kill myself.

>>51252524
They're actually all run by the same AI, and it loves to hurt people.

>>51252524
AHAHAHA
AHAHA
AH
I DIDN'T FUCKING APPLY TO THOSE
I want to be put down like a fucking rabid dog

>>51252516
>That's a game I actually applied for, and I'm terrified!

I applied too, but I live for salt.

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>>51252524
Nah, exactly the same people that made it into this game will make it into those games, even if they didn't apply for them.

This is why we shouldn't apply to the /pfg/ games

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>>51252473
>>51252258
He's not even two feet long. He's not seducing anything. If he's lucky, he's the dildo they pass around.

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>>51252548
Dragon Game's results already have anons threatening to kill themselves... RotJR is going to be far worse.

>>51252134

Emergency induction port

>>51252599
A threat implies that it's empty, anon.

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>>51252573
>party reaches high enough level for someone to theoretically be able to cast Polymorph Any Object, or its equivilent
>yfw he finally gets a human form, and it's adorable

>>51252599
In the words of my spirit animal: MOTTO MOTTO!

>>51252287
....
....
....
....
....

Finally...
It finally has a use.

>>51252464

This anon gets it! Now excuse me while that despair completely devours my soul.

Goodnight!

>>51252524
>implying I applied to anything beyond molthune and rotjr
Eberron-game sounds like a promising thing though.

>>51252377
>Andus Nuclear Dragon Sounded really good, But i couldn't have three players larger than huge.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

I didn't even think I was in the running, and now knowing I almost got in makes it even worse. I could have just stopped taking Draconic Hero Alchemist at level 10 if it was going to be an issue, don't really need Alchemist past that as I'm mostly interested in the Poison Immunity.

RIP me.

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>>51252616
Araeli, come here

Hug it out with me. We can get through this.

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>Some time next week...

>>51252228
DHB is in PST and is gonna be running a game. Heck he plans on running 2!

>>51252613
I have not taken a humanoid form ability yet. However, when I do, I have no idea what the default result might be.

Atolm himself may wish to be 'Ahnold' but it's entirely up to the DM (if he wants) whether the results are played for laughs or whatever.

>>51252191
Looks big in that picture, I thought he's supposed to be tiny?

>>51252697

That picture is to scale on your screen

>>51252669
To speak to this I am in fact planning two games. One is a lot closer than the other.

The close game is one that is meant to emulate an AP following a revolution.

The far one is a PvP game that will make use of Unchained Mythic rules and be based on F/S N. The PvP game is farther because brewing unchained mythic rules will take a while.

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>tfw can't join any of /pfg/'s games because I live here in a GMT+8 hellhole

>>51252697
Myspace angle.
Or in this case, "get as close to the lens as possible with nothing too close in the foreground"

>>51252741
>GMT+8
China-anon someday we will play with you.

>>51252103
[World's Longest YEA BOI]

I was getting worried when Astarte came up, since her and Frey fall intoa similar sort of niche.

>>51252741
The best you can hope for is probably a play-by-post game.

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Now I kinda wish I had experience being a DM as well as a decent internet connection, just so I could run a game for you lovely anons. Though I'd have no clue as to what kind of game to run, especially since I'm not too comfortable with lewds

>>51252777
Woolie, is that you Darlington?

>>51252777

well you are the luckest man, triple seven jack pot anon.

If nothing else, Gestalt with six players means overlaping "Roles" to at least some degree.

>>51252794
Because Freyda's your fetish, right?

>>51252802

actually they all are.

>>51252809
Was that the primary reason for most of picks?

>>51252820

nah, my fetish is vast and varied as the ocean and its wildlife.

Everyone would have gotten in if that was the only criteria.

>>51252820
Good question. As opposed to the
>Well these didn't make the cut
what made you go
>Yes. This one.

>>51252809
Even Atolm?

>>51252831
So where did Aisha and Araeli fall short?

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>>51252802
Zev, man, Zev.
>Onee-san will teach you tho-rough-ly!

>>51252853

To be be completely frank, They didn't fall short.

>>51252874
Did you roll dice or something?

>>51252857
Zev is a goodu.

>>51252886

Dont take me for some sort of barbarian.

I used Tarot cards.

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>>51252599
>I got into Molthune
>Received PMs from people saying they will kill themselves because they didn't get in and blame me

I... I just wanted to be a dragon and a knight.

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>There will eventually come a day when the next tabletop session group will be decided by popular vote by /pfg/ anons.

>>51252910
Out them so that we can know who the legit shitters are.

>>51252917
VOTE NOW ON YOUR PHONES

>>51252917
Kurousagi is not worthless!

>>51252920
IMO, this. We don't need to baby sore losers who try to guilt trip others out of games.

>>51252917
>selection via popular vote
>anonymous vote

That sounds like a good idea!!

>>51252741
Step up, I'm in GMT+8 and am in a few games.
Have to get up between 3 and 6 AM for them, though.

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>>51252898
Why.

Why would you say something like that?

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>>51252917
the criteria is as follows:
waifuability: 20%
optimization: 20%
originality: 20%
characterization: 20%
hits the DM's fetish: 20%

>>51252910
I became a dragon and a knight as well. Just, not in the same games.

Don't worry, the little dragon knight's adorable, and we'll get along just fine.

>>51252955
>waifuability: 40%
>optimization: 5%
>originality: 10%
>characterization: 5%
>hits the DM's fetish: 40%

fix'd

>>51252910
Do >>51252920
That's some grade A childish shit man.
It was a Cozy game
Cozy

>>51252955
Can we actually come up with some formula/rubric for this shit?
like DPR against equal CR, a rating of how mary-sue the race/backstory is, fetishes, build creativity?

>>51252939
>>51252920
They'll just make new roll20 accounts but it will be nice to know who had the emotional maturity of a teenage girl going through their goth phase. Trying to ruin other people's fun by telling them shit like that is lame. Although if it happened to me I wouldn't personally care.

>>51252910
Don't let them get to you, Anon. If they would legit commit suicide over a game, they're clearly mentally unhealthy to begin with and if it wasn't this it was something else. If they're just bluffing to be petty and try to put a damper on you, they're shitters.

Besides, in any case, even if they blame you, you're not at fault. You dinn do nuffin wrong.

>>51252987
They'll make new Roll20 accounts sure, but we'll be able to see that they're new, and if they keep acting like shitheels it won't take long to find out who they are.

>>51252968
>implying originality isn't 5%
>implying characterization matters at all
>Implying optimization doesn't matter
nigga come on.

>>51252941
Strawpolls are totally legit!

>>51253043
>remember the vote fraud on that one rotjr poll
Never again.

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>>51252955
>originality: 20%
>implying /pfg/ gives a shit about special snowflake sues unless it caters to their dicks

>>51253059
You know who has at least semi-original characters? DHB. And that's sad.

>>51252955
What do you mean by originality? do you mean personality/backstory originality or build originality?

>>51253043
>>51253056
its easy to punish brigaders. Just match the number of unique posters on /pfg/ against the total number of votes one person has.

>>51253081
>do you mean personality/backstory
yes

>build originality?
falls under optimization

>>51253082
>people don't lurk at all

>>51252955
You can't score characterization - that must be observed during 1st session.

>>51253093
Build originality would kinda contradict optimization imo.

>>51253081
I assume they mean not any of the following: waifubait, memes (/pfg/-flavored or otherwise), generic, and Mary Sue-ish.

If course, a dash of non-adventurer interests or hobbies and a goal or two go a long way to fleshing out a character and making them feel like individual too.

>>51253106
not really.

DMs would enjoy seeing unique builds so long as they're built well.

No DM wants to see another cookie cutter wizard who prepped all the crowd control spells.

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>>51252377
>Aisha
>The Entire-Campaign-In-One-App App
>Player gets rejected, ideas get taken
How much stock do you have in salt mines?

>>51253118
But that's measured with waifuability. Why have these statistics that directly contradict each other?

>>51253131
IMO there's a difference between waifuability and being waifubait. It's a fine line though, and probably one that's rather subjective.

Also you gotta have love for the husbandos too, although I think that's implied to be included. It's just semantics.

>>51253103
This is true. Most character conceptual personalities don't really make it past the first session intact. And this is fine; sometimes as you slip into the role, you discover their personality. Kinda like how Matt Smith was pretty damn wobbly in the first part of 11th hour, but by the time he gets his bowtie on, we knew we had the new Doctor.

>>51253106
Originality can be a strong part of optimization, or it can ... not. The first person on here that came up with the tech warsoul was certainly pulling out some original ways of getting the damage that could not be attained through standard build practice.

On the other hand, "how many puppies can I make appear in a round" may be very far from a strong character.

>>51253165
But Smith was actually not a great doctor????

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>>51252917
I could actually imagine a youtube or twitch channel with this premise.

20 participants. 1 DM. In an elimination match, only 4 players will be chosen for the game.

>>51253161
I agree that there's a difference, just not enough that it'd warrant it's own separate stat.

>>51253165
>On the other hand, "how many puppies can I make appear in a round" may be very far from a strong character.
You just have to theme it right.

Sheeit, "all the puppies" summoner sounds like a legit cute character.

I remember a shadowrun character "Lord of the Dodge Scoots", a Rigger who had 72 dodge scoots under his command to ram people with. That guy had flavour.

>>51253165
hold the fuck on

how many puppies can you make in a round

at first level, fifth level, tenth, and twentyth level

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>>51253249
>>51253232

I'm actually really upset.

For someone not good at pathfinder, crunching out a gestalt character and then sitting on it for four days, wringing my hands about the viability of the build creates a hell of a lot of investment.

And now it's nothing.

Dragon DM, why did you ask for sheets?

>>51253276
I'm guessing to measure out stat spreads, check over rudimentary gear, look at traits and combat options, etc

>>51253276

Because thats a requirement?

>>51253276
>Dragon DM, why did you ask for sheets?
Most GMs ask for sheets, dude. It helps to know what you're getting out of the party.

And some of us throw gestalts together literally every day. We feel the pain but man, sometimes we just gotta git gud.

>>51253276
Investment is the starting line. Unless there's zero competition for slots, you always need to be invested to even have a chance of getting in.

However I do think that something wrong about all these /pfg/ games is the idea that you accept applicants by specific character details, rather than judging how well you'll get along with each player.

Interesting ideas can be played by shitty people (or more realistically, interesting builds can be played by shitty minmaxers who don't care about the rest of the group's powerlevel), and players who are great to have around may come up with simple ideas done well, or be the type to more organically find their character during play, or write them to fit the party.
This isn't stormwinding, just that the quality of player means so much more than face value quality of the character, and that's what you should test for.

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>>51253165
>On the other hand, "how many puppies can I make appear in a round" may be very far from a strong character.

clearly, you've never heard of the mosquitomancer of 3e

channel negative energy to kill a bunch of mosquitoes in a barn
cast animate dead and you'll end up with swarms of zombie mosquitoes based off your HD
order your mosquitoes to bite your enemies
despite their size, mosquitoes will always land a hit and because they're zombified, they will always deal 1d6 necrotic damage

>>51253276
... dude, really?
>I should get in since I invested too, why did I have to invest I shouldn't have had to
?

>>51253322
Thing is, Player-GM interviews would be hell to try and manage.

>>51253346
.... I have it on good authority that puppies and mosquitos are not the same species.

They're not even the same Genus or Family

Well, to drown out my pain at the second rejected character in the same number of days, I'm going to go overcook and eat soggy, lukewarm top ramen
Such is the depth of this sea of sorrow

>>51253391
I'm just saying, big things may come in small packages.

mass summoning puppies seems trivial.
But god help you when its a summoner/magus gestalt who somehow managed to combine evolved companion and proxy summoning into a deadly combo.

I don't lurk here often

are you guys super-thirsty for GMs or was there something special about the games that are being picked

>>51253372
GM asks for players in their applications to write a small bit about what they personally expect from the game in terms of tone and content, and maybe their playstyle and intended role in the party.

From there, they narrow it down to the interesting ones, or the ones that fit their campaign vision, and then maybe interview.

RotJR's main mistake was saying "the players set the lewd level". They wanted a lewd game, they should have said from the start "this is the range of lewds I will be running and expecting", and people outside of that range wouldn't have applied.

>>51253422
Both.
Player to GM ratio is ridiculous, and they were gonna be super comfy lewd/semilewd games.

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>>51253414
Yes. Listen to that anon! Big packages come on small things like he says!

>>51253444
Die, dildo dragon

Any word on rotjr picks yet?

>>51253465
Not from what I've seen.

>>51253422
I'd say it a bit of that
The idea of playing with fellow degenerates
And a little "fun game idea"

How would you guys feel about playing a campaign set in the afterlife? As in, you died and something fucks up your way to the afterlife, leaving you stranded on the Astral looking for what caused you to go astray, or even going back home. There's one condition, however: NO LEWDS ALLOWED

>>51253495
Sounds interesting.

>>51253495
But isn't everyone's spirit going to be naked?

>>51253495
Could be good if done right.

>>51253358
more like, there were 35 applicants (though I imagine probably 10 of those were sock puppets) and only 6 accepted, so 29 people just wasted their time and investment. It is not easy to make pathfinder gestalts until you've made thirty of them.

Which is an extra kick in the teeth since like 20 of those applications came in today and yesterday, for a game that's been up since 2016

>>51253495
What would you think of somebody using the deathless ghost monster class from DSP?

>>51253517
Isn't building a character supposed to be fun, Anon?

If it's a chore, then why are you even playing this game?

>>51253517
Well... I mean. You didn't have to. And those who got in spent that time too. Maybe they spent more, maybe they spent a lot less.

There's also what that time spent is worth to you. I was using time that I'd at most have played old emulator stuff with; my application was done while on xmas vacation when I'd sit upstairs watching tv with my father. I don't exactly feel like I was cheated out of Hawaii 5-0 even if I paid somewhat less attention to it than I otherwise wouldn't have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPC2Fp7IT7o

>>51253535
I'll have to think about that, but right now at 2 AM where I'm not even sure if the campaign is a good idea, the answer's gonna be a no.

>>51253513
>You wake up to find your busty lass human spirit in a maid outfit that you've never seen but feels all too familiar
>Which is weird because you died a male dwarf blacksmith who was trying to be a warrior

>>51253558
Also this.
Figuring out interesting new interactions; creating a new build should be *enjoyable* for you, else what in the fuck would you ever touch pathfinder for?

Figuring out *how* that new kineticist archetype works, what I can mix it with, how it needs to be built and optimized in comparison to the standard model, what new opportunities it offers... That's fun. Or at least contenting enough to pass the time.

>>51253597
As long as it's not a 1p kineticist archetype.

>>51253588
Awww. But that's the easiest way to get like a Ghostwalk eidolon right now!

>look through fighter archetypes
>see Dragoon
>think "dragoons are awesome, I didnt know there was another firearm archetype for fighters"
>read archetype
>it isn't a fucking dragoon

>>51253797
Dragoons are lancers, baka.

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So. Any other games going on I could app too? I dont have enough disappointment to push me to suicide yet.

>>51253845
We should pick a game on roll20 and all apply to it! Take it over!

>>51253812
Dragoons are mounted infantry which came to prominence during the Napoleonic Wars.

>The name is derived from a type of firearm, called a "dragon", which was a handgun version of a blunderbuss, carried by dragoons of the French Army.[1][2]

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>>51253857

Im looking to drive myself to suicide, not others anon.

>>51253900
take over a game, anon!

I'll find one for you!

>>51253896
It's not your fault you don't play good video games.

So what to do you do the moment you realize your memories/perception might be compromised.

In this case it is by a memory vampire that can consume memories/regurgitate memories partially or completely altered. Also that you may be in a giant illusion and have been in for quite a while.

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>>51253908

Oh anon. I want to become the lich, not raise a bunch of minions

>>51253558

Building a character is fun, but it sucks to make a fun character you can't play.

>>51253915
Wat

Can you take to archetypes that replace the same class feature as long as you bail before reaching the level where the conflict occurs?

>>51253977
Anon, haven't you ever played a single Final Fantasy game before in your life?

>>51253938
Then find a game to join!

What kind are you looking for?

>>51253977
He's a weeb talking about final fantasy. Some jackass made the arbitrary decision that all spears = dragon-themed knights after one dude had a spear and a vague dragon motif to his armor.

Somehow the title of this arbitrary pidgeonholed character type got misspelled to "dragoon".

What's a good day to run a game on roll20? Do Sundays work for most people?

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>>51254020

Any day works for me!

>>51254020
saturday evenings is the sweet spot

>>51254004
Ten, Tactics Advance, and one of the rereleases on GBA. Dunno which one. I seem to recall some sort of rose rebellion or something.

>>51254004
How has Paizo not been sued for appropriating SqEnix's intellectual property?