Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1291: Tavern Edition

Jumpers!
What is the most moral thing you have done in your adventures?
What is the most immoral?

>>51246637
Invent cake

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>>51232141
Ah, Madoka. A guilty pleasure of mine. A build!~

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Drop-In: One selfless wish has already changed this world for the better... Do I dare try the same?

Exact Words: Everything I say, has my heart in it. Does that make my lies better or worse?
Keep it Cool: Sometimes, you just can't show it.
More Powerful Than Hope…[200cp]: Stopping is death. Little death that brings complete stasis behind itself.
...And Deeper Than Despair [300cp]: Tell me, Akemi Homura – how does it feel?
Your Soft Smile [100cp]: I like smiling. Makes me feel like a person.
Nothing Special [100cp]: I... Oh. I AM too strong, aren't I?
Golden Grace [200cp]: Attractive and cute. Nothing wrong with that!~
I Will Save You! [200cp]: Danger sense. Quite useful.

Weapon: As wanting as I am to go with picture related, knife is probably a bad idea, hm. Then again, the weapon is not critical here.

Dimensional Inventory [200MP]: Oooooh. I've been searching for another perk like this. Many thanks.
Rewind [300MP]: One more day – something you can never discount.
Stop Time [400MP]: Ah, stay a while! You are so lovely!
Vanity’s Reward [100MP]: Another clothes changer. After hearing about the clothesbeam, I simply couldn't resist.
Cake~! [200MP]: ALL THE FOOD.

School Papers: Student OR teacher? For free? Ah, but you spoil me!~
Isolation Field: Complete isolation. To anything and everything. Yup, that's a sell.

It’s Okay To Smile [100cp]: Hm. That's weird. I don't generally take OCs... Hear me, Kaname Madoka. For I am not leaving without you.
Don’t Forget - Tomoe Mami [200cp]: Ah, Mami. How is it that you manage to push literally every single button of mine?
Don’t Forget - Akemi Homura [200cp]: Akemi Homura did not deserve her fate.

(TBC.)

>>51246637
introduce a kid-friendly settings to sexual deviancy, drugs and the wonders outdoing yourself in both previous fields.

>>51246680
Compulsive Eater [+100]: Well. At least health and figure are not a problem!~
But That’s Forbidden Love! [+100]: I... Hm. Is it still a drawback if every single rumor is true?
You Little Bastard! [+200]: Good thing I have that Isolation Field, hm?
Hexed [+200]: Unrepentant little psycho, meet Time Stop. Oh, I see you are attacking my frien- Whoops, was that your Soul Gem? So sorry. See you next week!
Magical Girls Must Fight! [+200]: So far as there are people who love me? The world can burn.

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This one is getting slotted early in the chain. As you can probably tell, I... Wasn't in the best state of mind then.

Thank you, Heavens. This one is amazing. But now I have to rewatch Madoka. Oh noooooooo.

>>51246637
Stabbing someone for love. Moral or not?

>>51246656
This is a perfect answer to both.

>>51246680
Stay tuned, Annette. Heavens said there might be a scenario where you can take Madoka as a companion.

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>>51246637
>Implying that I have done barely moral in my sixty seven million years of existence

>>51246700
Quite aware!~

Just covering my bases before the possible update. Something is telling me I will be revising the entire thing regardless in that case.

>>51246680
>A guilty pleasure of mine.
It was pretty shit, yes.

>>51246746
It was Avant-Garde anon.

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>>51246746
You shush with your springboards.

>>51246763
Avantgaaaaaaaarde, you say?

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>>51246637
I
charged right into corporate headquarters of a bad guy in Captain Planet and just straight up murdered the CEO who constantly gave us trouble and getting away with shit through his really good lawyers and bribing people. It was the last week of my stay in Captain Planet, and I wanted to go out with a bang and freak out my fellow Planeteers by just letting them know the extent of my power. I was a different person, then. Not kind, or soft. Hardened by many conflicts.

I had summoned up a great storm so the CEO could not escape in a helicopter, (The storm had a ferocity that only an act of god could ever summon, thanks to my Actraiser power). I had the helicopter pilot on standby put to sleep by ghost pokemon, and I had more ghost pokemon torment the CEO and terrify him in his office.

I carved my way through anyone who tried to stop me, tossed out any innocent office workers by meticulously going through each floor and defenestrating them (using magic to make sure their fall was gentle).

I was invincible in this setting, but just as I entered the CEO's office, the eye lock he was so desperately battling with unlocked. He fled up to the roof. I let him flee.

I wanted to give him a brief flash of hope before I crushed it in front of his very eyes before his death. I turned to my true moth form. He was struggling in vain to get the helicopter working. Hope is truly an awesome power.

I violently slaughtered him in the Helicopter. I stood over the effects of my work, staring at it with a great relish.

The Planeteers stared at me. "Why did you do it!?!" Wheeler demanded.

"I wanted to know the extent of my cruelty, and what I could accomplish with it." I said.

Although I calmed down afterwards. I was pretty horrified by what I did afterwards, and I vowed never to do it again.

>>51246637
>moral
Cured diseases, made orphanages and schools, gave water to that guy outside Megaton

>immoral
Rape, torture, fates worse then deaths (not the perk though, couldn't afford it), shot that guy outside of Megaton

>>51246832
Hey NikaMoth! Super excited about Sailor Moon, seem to recall some talk of an updated WIP soon. did that sneak past me this weekend? It's cool if it didn't, I just don't wanna miss out if it has.

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>>51232141
Puella Magi Madoka Magica: Wraith Timeline
> Background: Drop In
> Exact Words [Get a Freebie!]
> Keep It Cool [Get a Freebie!]
> Make You An Offer [-200CP]
> Incubation of the Soul: Witch System [-300CP]
> Golden Grace: Cute! [-200CP]
> Decretum [-600CP]
> School Papers [Get a Freebie!]
> Strange Apartment [-200CP]
> Isolation Field [-300MO]
> I Am Not Alone [Get a Freebie!]
> Memory of the Old World [Get a Freebie!]
> What Rebellion? [Get a Freebie!]
> Compulsive Eater [+100CP]
> But That’s Forbidden Love! [+100CP]
> What A Weasel [+100CP]
> You Little Bastard! [+200CP]

The power of the soul is so fascinating, don't you think?
Souls are a life force. In worlds where souls exist, the soul becomes synonymous with "life", and identity is synonymous with the soul.
People who draw on the soul may acquire incredible power. This power often reflects their identity, it may show itself as a manifestation of their willpower, and in some worlds can even be considered to be "divine".
Yes, the power of the soul is truly fascinating.

I don't know if you knew this about me, but soul research has always been one of my pet projects.
Actually, ever since Chibi-Robo, I've gained the power to bequeath souls unto dolls, basically at will. Normally, this would take a huge amount of energy... except that same jump provides a perk that gives you an infinite pool of the energy required.
After that, you just need a way to transfer the souls.

But production does not equal understanding.

>>51246846
>shot that guy outside of megaton
Literally why? The rest is standard edge, but what the fuck?

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>>51246866
> Soul Gem [Get a Freebie!]
> Black Wings: Wings of Grief [-100MP]
> Dimensional Inventory: Dimensional > Pocket [-200MP]
> Rewind [-300MP]
> Enhanced Dexterity [-100MP]
> Vanity’s Reward [-100MP]
> Cake~! (DX) [-200MP]

So, with Chibi-Robo's "Toys Need Souls" and "Alien Blessing", I can mass produce souls, provided I'm there to assist.
There are many ways to transfer souls, but the one that springs to mind is Tales of Symphonia's "Throne of the Soul."
With these, I can create any number of these "doll souls" (note to self: create a name that slides off the tongue more easily to distinguish doll souls), and transfer them to suitable bodies, which I can easily create to order with bioengineering, cloning, and robotics.
And now... with "Incubation of the Soul", I have the ability to mass produce magical girls.

And by choosing to allow magical girls created by me to transform into witches, coupled with forced emotional resonance, I can mass produce those as well.

. . .
Or I would, if it weren't for the Law of Cycles.
How annoying.
But for the time being this gives me a much more finite subject to research, that being the wraiths. They have such fascinating powers! If I had to guess, they seem to relate to entropy somehow. Fitting, I suppose, given Kyubey's role.
And, given that he's the resident expert on souls, magi, and entropy, I think we'll have a lot to talk about.
How fascinating~!

>>51246862
Yeah! I showed it to the IRC and I had to smooth some stuff over. Should drop the WIP soon later today.

>>51246637
moral created a group of travelling high tech soldiers to give food water and armor to the people in the wasteland

immoral i tied sasuke to a bed in a room full of his fangirls

>>51246872
I didn't really, just thought it be humorous. In reality Fallout was a very Good Karma style run for me.

>>51246637
The most moral thing I've ever done is help the cast of Evangelion achieve the best ending they could, with everyone surviving with their sanity and morals intact. With the obvious exceptions of Gendo and SEELE, both of whom are crazy and immoral. The former still had some traces of humanity in him, so he was sent to prison, but the latter was filled with people who were willing to sacrifice billions just for power and immortality. At least with Gendo, he had some doubts, expressed regret, had some level of concern and care for others, thought it was very little, and was doing it for love. Still a bad person, but not as bad. So SEELE got what they deserved.

The most immoral thing I've ever done is use myself as a common enemy in Storm Hawks, in order to create peace between Atmos and Cyclonia. In order to do so, I caused a lot of damage to both sides. By the end of it, the two sides decided to put the past behind them, because I was that big of a threat in their minds. And it held afterwards, because I had made Cyclonis and the Storm Hawks desperate enough to work together and eventually form a sort of friendship, and this combined with the deaths of the more evil/violent Cyclonian commanders (read: all of Cyclonis' named goons from the Dark Ace to Ravess and Snipe plus those lizard guys) led to a continued peace.

>>51246888
>room full of his fangirls
How many edgy lil sasukes did you end up with?

Toying with the idea of making a servant based on Horatio Nelson, anybody have thoughts on a NP that prevents conceptual harm/reality warping type stuff without actually preventing direct physical harm (to reflect his dumb ass going out on deck in full dress and getting sniped)? A rank? Higher?

>>51246888
>the immoral one
You're a cruel, cruel man, anon.

>>51232141
HeavensAnon, can Purification Shot be applied to non-attack magic such as healing magic, or would that require other/further perks?

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Question for the Space Station 13 jump, Would a jumper with the hulk power be able to beat the colossus? I'm not familiar with the source material.

>>51246919
enough to start a underground uchiha clan like root but for the good of the village and to screw with naruto once he found out

>>51246954
Yea, you'd be able to, but the problem isn't beating the shit outta it, its getting close to the thing and not dying/getting mortally wounded

>>51246846
>Rape
Who? Why?

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Jumpers, where can i got down the path and get the powers of a spooky scary skelington?

>>51246977
So some of the stealth stuff coupled with something to dish out some damage would work well?

>>51247006
Is that really a question you want answered, anon?

>>51247023
quite.

What would be the absolutely minimum someone would need to reasonably survive SMT's World of Chaos?

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>>51247020
Skullduggery pleasant, and Ghost rider.
Undertale would work as well.

>>51247020
Skulduggery Pleasant. You can be any kind of skelly.

>>51247024
Yes. I really want to understand that. For all the edgy stuff people say, rape is usually something people don't do. It's a special kind of fucked up.

>>51247020
Ghost Rider's good if you want the fire with it.

Otherwise, Skulduggery Pleasant lets you be a skeleton in any altform. And has necromancy.

>>51247020
Nightmare before christmas
Monsters Inc for more spook

>>51247039
More than the jump gives you even with a twinked out superbuild.
You're asking questons that don't really have exact answers, but if you think you don't have enough the answer is always going to be that you don't.

>>51247049
Don't know what to tell you anon. It (probably) happened.

>>51247039
Infinite stamina, a healing factor, and a 1000 CP Race. If you play your cards right (i.e. not rushing into ambushes like a blind idiot), then your chances are reasonable.

>>51247049
My jumper doesn't do violent rape but she did have sex with people through mindcontrol/crazy seduction perks. Which according to some definitions violates consent and is thus rape.

>>51247039
Twink build and a safe place to rest, the twink build makes you the strongest thing in the setting (during the time period you are there) but you'll be overwhelmed by numbers/attrition if you don't have a way to rest/recover between battles without being attacked.

>>51247153
Original rape anon, but mind control is absolutely rape. Seduction probably not.

>>51246637
Most Moral: Adopting kids and being a loving parent.
Most Immoral: In West Wing I went Frank Underwood and assumed the Presidency, covertly ruined competing countries and assured America's dominance as the seat of the New World Order.

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In what Jump did you have the greatest character development, Jumpers?

>>51247064
>>51247197
>twink
I'm sorry, what do you mean by "twink"? Young gay builds?

>>51247197
>twink build
?

>>51247202
But what about Charisma perks? :^)

>>51247231
>>51247232
It basically means munchkin.

>>51247231
>>51247232
It's a common term for minmaxed builds made to fuck up low level people in PvP.

>>51247197
Isn't Lucifer there at the same time you are?

>>51247231
>>51247232
Twink is also used for the same meaning as munchkin or powergamer.


There is a super powerful build in SMT, it means avoiding more fun options but it is extremely powerful.

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>>51247216
Trigun.

Blame this guy

>>51247237
I would argue that seduction is just specialized charisma, so unless it involves blackmail, threats, or using your position of authority over them, probably not, although I can in no way predict every method of rape a jumper can come up with.

>>51247260
Not with the World of Chaos drawback.

>>51247202
If the seduction is supernatural it's moot. A clone of my jumper (long story) seduced a random NPC who was happily married and didn't want to cheat. He felt bad/haunted afterwards. My jumper had to erase some stuff from his memory and give him compensation. That's basically rape isn't it?

>>51247260
Usually, and he would be stronger than the twink build, but when taking the drawback anon referred to Lucy isn't around.

>>51247293
If she agreed, pretty sure that means she did want to cheat.

>>51247264
>There is a super powerful build in SMT
I dunno, man. Jesus Armor/Chosen of Raphael/Dormant Power is objectively the most powerful build, and it's still quite a bit more interesting than Tribrid.

>>51247293
If it's supernatural, is it really seduction? It's toeing the line with mind control a bit too much if you ask me Says the anon with so many charisma & seduction perks it can't not be supernatural

>>51247303
There comes a point where jumper charisma gets so absurd that people don't really get a choice in the matter anymore.
Of course they did say yes, and they did want to at the time, but when you're basically rewriting peoples personality on the spot with "normal" words is it really the same?

>>51247283
>>51247297
>"The lord of all demons is gone."
I thought that was referring to the protagonist, who dies. Or am I confusing my SMT protagonists?

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If Wayward is here I have a question about the Demons of Astlan Jump.

What does the Potential perk actually do? It says your potential is far beyond your form, your potential for what? Is it a magic booster? Does it make your demon form more stronk?

>>51247293
You should have killed your clone.

>>51247350
He's mainly on SB, though HeavensAnon goes there occasionally, as does Annette.

>>51247309
The only wrong way to go in that jump is Demonic Fusion really.

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Hey, completely new, I read the HowTo but I still don't understand something. After I created my Pokemon Trainer character, where could I play it? Alone in my head or with an online GM? I'm confused as fuck. Thank you per advance.

>>51246950
Probably other/further perks.

>>51247387
First one. It's an imagination game.
You can post builds and writefag if you'd like though.

>>51247387
Alone in your head.

>>51247303
I gave my jumper most of the available beauty and seduction perks.
In this particular instance, a dude was minding his own business. My jumper's clone was scouting the area, she was low on energy and bored. She saw him. Descended from the sky. Tried seducing him the normal way. Didn't quite work. Used seduction techniques from Sidereals and a bunch of other stuff. It worked.
I'm pretty sure that counts as abuse.

>>51247354
Self-duplication from Teen Titans. I just reintegrated her and then went to apologize to the man, explain things to him in a way he could understand (he was worried he had been the victim of a succubus and his seed had been stolen) and offered him compensation. Also scrubbed his memory afterwards.

>>51247340
Lucifer is the Lord of all Demons. You're probably thinking of Abel from DeSu, who can be a Lord of Demons. However, Lucifer is the Lord of ALL Demons, above even the Overlord of Bel. The protagonist of SMT 1 is Adam's reincarnation, and he'd presumably rule alongside Eve's reincarnation and Ahura Mazda. Still not the Lord of All Demons, though.

>>51247390
If you choose the ability to summon ribbons, could you eventually form constructs as Mami did? Obviously they wouldn't be as powerful as their perk equivalents, but nonetheless, is it something you can do?

>>51247387
In your head, you can however write it out if you want. New builds are usually interesting to see.

>>51247397
>>51247398

Great, thank you!

>>51247401
Memory scrubbing doesn't absolve him of his sins nor or yours. He should be punished, his wife should divorce him, and your clone deserved to get the shit beaten out of them at the very least.

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>>51247401
Did you blow his mind?

>>51247444
now that's what I call edgy son.
That doesn't even make sense. Dude got magiced into getting raped and you're telling me he's the one that sinned?
Fuck you dude.

>>51247463
>That doesn't even make sense. Dude got magiced into getting raped and you're telling me he's the one that sinned?
He cheated on his wife. Saying she was super sexy isn't an excuse.

>>51247450
Has anyone noticed that this artist really likes white guys with black girls? It comes up quite a bit for some reason.

>>51247474
Mind altering was involved. He used sideral charms.

>>51247463
There's an anon in this thread who clearly was cheated on once and now is super overly-sensitive to the idea. It's obvious, man, we all can see it. I'm sympathetic to your situation, but it doesn't justify shitting up our threads every time it gets brought up.

>>51247490
Depends what charms.

>>51247489
I think that guy is supposed to be asian actually.
But yes interracial does come up a lot. I want to say something about practice with different body types, but I think we all know why.

>>51247382
Demonic Fusion is okay on its own but it doesn't synergize with anything else in the jump, unlike Chosen of Raphael and hybrid demons.

>>51247463
Just because someone cheater on you doesn't give you the right to punosh people who got magicked into doing the same.

>>51247390
Was it ever revealed how Homura got her apartment so spiffed up?

>>51247504
I think only Warm-Faced Seduction Style. Oh she also took on the form of her victim's wife, only more attractive. Which is a low blow.

>>51247523
I'm afraid I don't know why you responded to my post saying pretty much the same thing I said, but in different words.

>>51247507
I just noticed that it's generally a black girl though. Never a man. I know the main artist is a woman, so I'm wondering if she's black? That'd explain it pretty easy.

This is stupidly offtopic and risky to discuss, just something that came to mind.

>>51247309
Wouldn't herald be stronger than that on it's own?

>>51247536
Wrong post, sorry.

>>51247545
Uh, no. That combo basically makes you Metatron, who is reasonably above most Heralds.

>>51247474
I forget which one you hate. Is it Tamamo or Nero?

Is it at all possible for a dedicated New Vegas jump to happen? Those DLC would make awesome Scenarios.

>>51247538
Black women and asian men are the least preferred in the dating scene. Something something changing social perceptions, something something go away sjew

meh.

>>51247530
That's a Dragonblooded charm, not a Sidereal one. That said, it is an Emotion effect, so I'd argue that it counts as mind control even if it doesn't have the Unnatural Mental Influence tag.

>>51247565
Actually, this is incorrect. According to SMTAnon, just taking Herald or Boosted Chosen of Raphael would only put you on non-plot important Metatron's level at max, taking both puts you on DeSu Metatron's level, taking both and Jesus Armor gives you Nocturne Metatron levels of defense. I actually asked him about it when it first came out.

>>51247588
How complex. Still, it''s better than just Herald, on par with tribrids or so, and vastly superior to Demonic Fusion, which is just one mid-level demon in power.

>>51247584
If you really want to make it. I suppose you could.
But you don't need to make scenarios to do the DLC in jump.
Just go there yourself man. You don't need rails.

>>51247489
To be fair, it's hard to resist delicious brown.

>>51247580
I don't even know anything about Fate senpai.

>>51247586
True! I looked back at my build and that clone couldn't use Sidereal Charms or Martial Arts anyway. Too low-powered.

And yeah agreed about the mind-controlness of it all.

>>51247530
>Warm-Faced Seduction Style
That's a Dragon-Blooded charm though. Doesn't even do anything but increase your Socialize. So it literally just allowed them to pick their words better.

>Oh she also took on the form of her victim's wife, only more attractive. Which is a low blow.
This though. Yeah, that's low.

>>51247616
Black =/= brown. Brown's used to refer to just about everything else, pretty much.

>>51247584
Not without changing the main one, as New Vegas is an option. I'm currently in the process of making a Fallout jump that takes place before the war, however. We'll see how that goes

>>51246637
Moral: Saved the World, Cured all Mundane Disease, Gave Mr. Rogers Immortality.
Immoral: A Metric Fuckton of Murder of various degrees of justification, created dictatorships, occasionally not helping people when I could pretty easily because it makes my life slightly easier.

>>51247616
delicious brown isn't really black. It's just a really heavy tan coloration. The body and facial features dont' match.

>>51247580
Tamamo, I believe. He's okay with Nero because she's honest about it, and is okay with you sleeping around as well. Tamamo, on the other hand, threatens to cut your dick off if you cheat on her, and then goes and cheats herself. At least, that's what I recall him complaining about.

>>51247629
>So it literally just allowed them to pick their words better.
really? the edition I have says "Charm makes a Dragon-Blood seem far more attractive than normal to a person she is attempting to seduce."

>>51247629
>Doesn't even do anything but increase your Socialize. So it literally just allowed them to pick their words better.
It's got the Emotion keyword, though, which means that charms that make you immune to meddling with your mind but still leave you open to regular persuasion protect you from it. Sounds like mind control to me.

Drawbacks: Taste of the Valinor, The Black Riders (1600)

Age: 280
Location: Bree
Race: Elf (1400)
Gender: Female

-Perks-
Elven Forestry (Free) - Ok, I now know better ways to find magical plants and ingredient s in the forest, that'll be helpful.
Elven Grace (Free) - ...So, an all around artistic skills boost? Alright, thats fine. Not very helpful, but fine.
Dwarven Craft (1000) - Ooh, smithing, very good.

>G:...?

Elven Enchantment (750) - Ooohh yes! Combined with the smithing, I'll be able to actually make some good weapons and armor!

>G: What are you doing?

Hmm?

>G: Why are you suddenly so interested in the arts of smithing, and magics that would help the products?

Oh, no reason.

>G: Plea-

Aaanyways!

Blood of Kings (150) - Alright, a boost to charisma. Cool. The real stars here, though, are the boost to my leadership skills, and enhanced lifespan! Looks like death by aging will be a distant worry. Now all I have to worry about is death by pointy weapon.

>G: Answer-

Which brings me to Items!

-Items-
Lembas Bread (Free) - Ooh, neat! I could probably feed a whole village with just one slice of this, and I can make more? Very useful indeed.
Master Armor (50) - Oh god yes! No more shitty leather armor bought from some renaissance fair dipshit for me!
Sword (0) - Eh. Nothing compared to Ea, or a few other of the minor trinkets i've got in the Gate, but it's a start, and I can always enchant it.

>>51246882
Awesome, thanks for the update!

>>51247538
The black vampire chick a best.

>>51247675
Fuck, forgot my trip.

So, my plan for this jump is to bomb Sauron's fortress from as far away as possible with Ea until it's naught but a smoking crater with a nearby volcano. Then, I suppose, I shall go help Aragorn with that whole king business, because yes Gil I don't want to claim it for myself since even with my new leadership skills I'm not sure I'm up to the task of leading what is essentially the free world! Give me more of those king lessons you promised. Also, first chance I get I'm finding Gollum, taking that ring from him, and I am going to slam dunk the fucking thing into the volcano.

>>51247675
stop pretending you didn't die in Fate/Stay Night

>>51247665
It can even make someone whose sexual orientation is incompatible with you open to seduction. They get a bonus to resist it, but not a big enough one to matter that much.

>>51246637
>Most Moral
Saved the world, several times over.
>Most Immoral
Committed xenocide. Well. Mostly. Doubt I got them all, really. Still, it's the thought that counts.

>>51247665
Not sure what edition you have, but mine says this:

>The fire that burns at the heart of every Child of Hesiesh can inflame the passions of members of the opposite sex (and, often, members of the same sex). When this Charm is activated, Essence pulses through the Dragon-Blood’s veins in sympathy with the heartbeat of someone he seeks to seduce. This Charm can be used only during a seduction attempt, but in such situations, the Dragon-Blood can increase her Socialize Ability by fi ve or double its normal rating, whichever is less. Targets whose sexual orientation would not normally permit them to feel attraction to the Dragon-Blood gain a +2 bonus to MDV.

So it boosts your Socialize, and is less effective against people with the wrong sexual orientation.

Nothing about being more attractive though.

>>51247609
>If you really want to make it. I suppose you could.
I'm already procrastinating instead of writing one jump I don't need to add another, was just asking if it was possible.

>But you don't need to make scenarios to do the DLC in jump.
>Just go there yourself man. You don't need rails.
I know but it still seems like it would be interesting; there are some cool things that could be offered as scenario rewards for the main quest, DLCs, and a few major side quests. Having Euclid's C-Finder would be really cool.

>>51247689
Wow, is it time for Scatovore to target me? And with only one (complete) jump to my name? Wow I do feel honored.

>>51247733
Just go get it man. The satilite is still up there. You don't need a scenario to get the LOSC.

>>51247586
>>51247623
>>51247629
>>51247665
>>51247670
>>51247698
>>51247731
It gets an upgrade with the errata too, becoming actual Unnatural Mental Influence.

So yeah.

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>>51241874
Wasn't ever banned and it's not nearly as PtV as you might think. If it was I'd probably have to ban at least the top level but long as people can be reasonable and canon doesn't fuck it up, it's fine.

>>51242554
No. The canon version massively reduces the hosts lifespan but since you're buying with CP you just have a normal one.

>>51247716
>Committed xenocide
On whom?
>>51247401
>>51247202
So we have at least two rapey Jumpers ITT. Who else?

>>51247760
I doubt he's the shitposter dude, Your build is impossible.
If you want to fanwank it away that's one thing, but you've got to expect people to take umbridge with it.

>>51247761
The gun won't work in future jumps.

>>51247764
Huh. Checked Scroll of Errata and you are indeed correct. So yeah, Warm-Faced Seduction Style is canonically mind control.

>>51247779
If you get the capstone boosted Dragonheart, can you learn how to manifest dragon scale armor like Alter Lancer Arturia?

>>51247801
The more you know. about magical rape!

>>51247797
The gun would still work if you brought all the necessary architecture with you.
So just steal the powerplant and the satellite and put them down in each jump as needed.
Bam instant solar death ray.

Use the perk in Legend of Mana to carry all that shit around if you don't have enough space.

>>51247804
Mm, sure. Won't be much stronger then the base defensive buff Dragonheart boosted gives but I don't see any problem with eventually being able to manifest steel like scales.

>>51247779
If we have Instinct A and Eye of the Mind (False) A, would we be able to fight an invisible enemy?

>>51247797
You're a jumper. Make your own, with blackjack and hookers if you want. It's not that hard, hell if you take that company in EMH you can have it imported into every jump you go to

>>51247848
Yes. Maybe not at full efficiency but it'd be close to fighting them as if they were visible.

Is there anything like CStW's Victory Fanfare elsewhere in the chain? Basically, it heals a portion of your health when you successfully "win" a battle.

I know I saw it somewhere else, and it's driving me mad.

>>51247890
Should be in Soul Hackers.
That one tops you off instead of just healing you a little though.

>>51247880
When you buy a new skill, does it start off at E, or D? Like, for example, if I bought a skill for 200cp, would it be B or A?

What's Medea Lily like in F/GO? Is she a cool gal? Is she gonna get up to supervillain shenanigans or something if I give her Independent Action? The wiki makes her sound pretty alright.

>>51247890
Victory Cry is a skill in the SMT series that does that. You should be able to get it in any SMT-derived jump that lets you have skills instead of abstract abilities. I know for a fact that you can acquire it with Skill Crack in the Devil Survivor games, and since Skill Crack is an in-character ability instead of a game abstraction you can do it in the jumps, too.

>>51247880
Two questions: can I take the jumper class but pay for the discounts of another? Also, in future Fate jumps will we have the option to be a servant again but not be able to access the supplement? I ask purely from a roleplay perspective.

>>51247925
New Skills start at E rank.

>>51247938
Rats, oh well. Thanks Val.

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>>51247584
I doubt it. Sadly there's not even an option to put yourself in place of THE courier/vault dweller. I guess you could kill them and roleplay, but eh.

Scenarios would be a nice way to do it, but i don't see an update coming out any time ever. Is Wild Card still even around?
when you spend 20 mins trying to post
I apparently cant upload anything fallout, so here's a dude.

>>51247782
Dark Eldar. Done via a genocide spell. Yes, I included a component that enabled my jumper to absorb all the resultant souls. The rest of that jump was spent running away from Slannesh like a little bitch.

Given the nature of the Webway, I doubt I got all of them.

Also, a good chunk of the Posleen, though that was more tactical than anything.

And to pre-empt any commentary, the worst the Navi got was an angry glare when one of them tried to shoot me with an arrow.

>>51247880
Hey Valeria as the jumpmaker do you think this build is survivable?

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/51200827/#51201864

I'm asking this out of curiosity, fully aware that a player can fanwank whatever they want and ignore the rules if they wish to.

>>51247936
You can already be a servant multiple times.
You just don't get anymore SP so it's suboptimal from a minmaxing standpoint.

>>51247903
Thanks, anon. It's good to know I wasn't just making shit up. I thought it was Fate/Extra, initially.

Also, holy shit, that's bretty gud.

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>>51247936
No, if you want another class, you need to qualify and pay for that class.

Yes, you can still be a Servant or DemiServant even if you've been both once, it's just that you only get access to the supplement once for each option.

>>51247779
If I have capstone boosted Dragonheart and Average one are the Dragonheart's Magic Circuits also enhanced to Blue Blood levels?

>>51247938
...Can I summon EMIYA Lily?

What would that even be? An EMIYA who didn't become a counter guardian or something?

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>>51246637
That's a tricky question. I've done some pretty selfless things in the name of pure spite, and some awful crimes against humanity because I genuinely thought they were the right thing to do.

>>51247049
I imagine for those who've done it a) it's the sort of thing that makes people think you're trying to combine your magical realm and your power fantasy into one creepily neckbeardish post.

Also b) there are plenty of ways to violate and debase others more thoroughly than rape in the chain anyway.

>>51246935
If you just want to represent that, you could purchase a high level of Voyager of the Storm-which is like Charisma but just for ships.

Otherwise, it's specific enough that I think depending on how strong you want the effect to be, it could be at B rank or above.

>>51247931
F/GO kinda has a problem with alleged cool girls suddenly go off their rocker and destroy the world.

See, she IS a cool girl, got a crush on Jason because Aphrodite's mindraping her to be in love, AND the Goetia possessing Solomon is mindraping her even more to follow their bullshit Fifthesque plan and she basically helps him try to do a ritual to make him immortal. Jason, by the way, is a cunt that makes F/SN Gil look humble. The ritual turns him into one of the Goetia pillars. She saw the future where he abandons her, and...snapped, making it easier for the Goetia to influence her

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>>51247958
Sorry, I'm not very interested in getting involved in petty squabbles that I'm not already a part of.

>>51247968
Yes, all circuits are. Or rather, all effective circuits.

>>51247991
Sure. I've always seen it as an EMIYA who, somehow, managed to become a genuine Heroic Spirit.

>>51247790
Uh huh, whatever you say, shitposter-kun.

How is it impssible, exactly? Surely if you two're not the shitposter, you can provide a reason?

>>51247903
The in-jump version "refills whatever energy pools you have". In lieu of recent jumps, would it effectively double the Grief Seeds you loot and multiply Wraith energy (immediately and for yourself only)?

>>51247960
No problem man.
I know the feeling. I went through every goddamn pdf on the unimaged part of the drive trying to find the perk that lets you give blood transfusions from yourself with no risk even if you've got wierd shit in there.
Took me over three hours of digging, and you know what? it was in with the gauntlets.

>>51248042
I feel like... some people can't read. Yes, yes it would. The last word is of particular note.

>Whenever you win a serious fight you find yourself reinvigorated, body and soul.

>>51246637
>Most moral
Split between killing 98% of communists in the world, and gently advancing technology
>Most immoral
Split between Consuming an entire setting and destroying a person's will to live through torture of him and his family, forcing him to live on in pain forever (physical and mental) with no chance of resistance or losing ability to self reflect.

>>51248030
>I'm not very interested in getting involved in petty squabbles
How un-Australian of you.
>>51248033
You've been told repeatedly why it's impossible. You changed your build only marginally as a result. I do accept that you bending the rules and making up an impossible scenario is your way to have fun. That's fine. I just wish you would accept what you are doing.

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>>51248030
>Sure. I've always seen it as an EMIYA who, somehow, managed to become a genuine Heroic Spirit.
Doesn't sound half bad.

Now to do that without replacing normal EMIYA, so we can have three of them running around (counting Shirou)...

Maybe get Demi-Servant, so we can have four of them. Just to include EMIYA Alter too.

>>51248033
You've got too much to deal with for a first jump.
Being a demiservant of Gil isn't enough to keep up with all those drawbacks.
Especially not JUMPER, since he's got everything you have and you don't have anything to compensate for being outnumbered in the Grail war or to equalize the fight.

I don't appreciate being called a shitposter even if the other guy is being a dick.
Please refrain from namecalling. I like you enough, but it's just plain rude.

>>51248079
Trying to throw a fit because you don't like someone's valid build for a singleplayer game is childish.

>>51248030
Val, what would an EX version of Unlimited Blade Works be? Going by the EMIYA build having UBW as a Noble Phantasm, I mean.

>>51248078
>Most immoral
Mang, when you say something like that you gotta tell us who.

>>51248112
UBW but not limited to A++ stuff I'd imagine, with it being able to copy up to EX. Cost probably goes down so he can do it at all.

Is there anything similar to pionner of the stars of the servant supplement? Here is the description: The unique Skill given to heroes that became turning points in the human history. All difficult voyages and challenges which are considered "impossible" turn into "events that can be realized".

>>51248030
A few questions about the EX Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.

Apparently the eyes fuck with the heads of people who have them, would the Tajitu skill help with that or does purchasing the eyes themselves provide protection from that?

Also, since the Eyes grow with use, do the one's purchased also have that capability? At what level do they start at, approximately?

>>51248123
Cool. I wonder if copying Ea would be possible then? Gil would throw the biggest fit over it, and it would be amazing.

>>51248123
Would you say that a magic booster or two would enable you to summon NPs without rank degradation? If you wanted that to be an innate part of the NP, would it cost a rank in effect?

>>51248017

...Huh. Well, none of that stuff is great. I should maybe take her off my shortlist. But the mindrapey stuff is only happening in the context of GO, right? If you summon her in the Fifth war it's not a thing?

>>51248135
Well it's unique for the servant supplement.
If you're looking for other perks that do the same thing though you can get a similar one in Baten Kaitos and Lord of Light.
Theres another in Infernals as well, and I think there's one more out there, but I can't remember it's name or where it's from.

>>51248135
Noble Eightfold Path from Lord of Light. Makes it so that there's no such thing as "impossible", just "extremely difficult and unlikely".

>>51248137
Taijitu might help in the sense it'd restore damage you've taken by sacrificing mana. Don't believe the eyes have any innate protection.

Grow? Sorry, KnK's not a focus of mine, I wasn't aware that they grew.

>>51248148
I believe Ea is special in that the Emiya boys can't actually scan it, something about it predating the concept of a sword so it fucks their minds up if they try to copy it.

>>51248150
Probably, depends on the booster. Probably, a rank sounds good.

>>51248105
Echoanon is posting her builds for all to see. Is it childish to comment? More childish than to play an imagination game? More childish than to cheat at said game?

The renewed Exalted talk reminds me that Mardukth seems to have disappeared.

>>51248033
>You don't have anything to compensate for being outnumbered
What is this thing you call A+ rank Charisma? I have never heard of it? And before you say they've got that too, I answered that last thread. You know, when you two could have brought it up, and it was relevant?

>>51248079
Tell me why it impossible motherfucker, instead of repeating shit. Also, don't try and drag Valeria into this shitstorm your brewing.

>>51247779
>Lydia from Valkyrie Chronicles.

My, my Valeria, what good taste you have.

>>51248210
Disappeared? Not posting in (less than) a week is hardly "disappearing".

>>51248091
>EMIYA Alter
Bet that's just a bucket and a half of sunshine.

>>51248235
When it's in contrast to being here every day it is fambam

>>51248123
I asked you that once and you said it could probably do any kind of personal item at that point. Armor, jewelry, guns, tech, etc.

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>>51248210
He was around just 3 days ago. I imagine some folks are just laying low from the recent Fatemania.

>>51248196
I thought there was some jargon about only the true king being able to wield it, but yeah.

>>51248164
Oh yeah, definitely.

>>51247903
How dangerous is Soul Hackers? It's (apparently) an SMT spin-off (?), but it seems less dangerous overall. Or at least that's the impression I got when people summon Cyberdemons and treat it like a fairly normal, if cyberpunk city.

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>>51248210
>>51248261
Still here, just busy with other stuff and slowly chipping away at Lunars.

Usually only posting with my trip when people mention me/my jumps anyway.

>>51248219
Lydia is utterly ridiculously attractive yes. Also a totally badass lady, so I'm kinda sad she was only in 3.

>>51248268
And that would have also been with a commeasurate reduction in the rank of what you can make. You wouldn't be making EX rank things and any object at once.

>>51248261
School just started back up for the likes of Red and Cracker_Jack. Not quite sure if that would affect Mardukth or not.

>>51248212
>Tell me why it impossible
You know why. People have told you multiple times. Too many enemies, too many challenges, no companions to fight JUMPER.

What are the odds you could somehow
1.gather allies quickly enough (in a war that is every master for himself) to beat a more powerful version of yourself who has a headstart
2.beat JUMPER while fending off all the organizations and Magi who want to dissect you
3.win 10 Grail Wars back to back to back as a rookie, all the while dealing with the aforementioned enemies

All of this in your first jump? This is even more bullshit than Shounen. Again, this is fine. Have fun in your own way. Just don't pretend this is a perfectly normal and reasonable build.

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>>51248212
Charisma really won't help you. You say that you're a lazy ass, but with shit going down five ways to sunday over and over again to turn you into the kind of person that would try and kill yourself, I doubt you'd be slacking.

JUMPER is you, but better and more lethal. He's been mentored by Gilgamesh for dozens of years at least and with a GoB filled with all kinds of toys.
He's going to kick your ass m8.
Looking pretty and having a mindfucking force of personality is nice, but you said it yourself, you can't into social. It won't do anymore for you than it will for him.

I don't pitch fits over this kind of thing often so I don't really care, but you can't call people that do shitposters, especially not when they have a point.

Pic related. It's how I feel right now. Maybe trying to actually talk to you was a mistake.
I'll just leave you to the other angrier guy. I'm sure that will work out better.

>>51248252
The Post Superhero bad end Shirou.

In this ending he decides to kill any master that gets in his way, to stop the Holy Grail War, including Rin and Ilya. This is after he kills Sakura to stop Angra Mainyu from manifesting through her.

He definitely would fit as a more bloodthirsty darker EMIYA

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>>51248325
Huh, so that's what happens when you only put one hash in.

>>51248376
Mind of Steel EMIYA would be pretty badass, if depressing.

>>51248196
Well, pretty much all the MEoDP grow with use. Or that might be the user acclimating to their new vision. Should we just wank that, and what level they start at?

And the inspiration for Taijitu seems to be the the fact that Ryougi had two personalities, one of which died. IIRC that was the main reason why Ryougi could handle the eyes and Tohno couldn't.

>>51248395
I guess so. Sorry I can't help you there.

>>51248411
Strictly speaking, which is better, an EX galvanism or an EX Magic resistance?

And what do they do combined?

>>51248388
Would male Lilies be more likely to be twinks or traps?

>>51248411
Would it be at all possible to increase the strength of things you can copy with UBW by increasing your own mystical/spiritual power?

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>>51248325
>3

...hold on, there's more than one Valkyria Chronicles game? If so is the jump meant to cover all of them or just the first?

Why do I keep finding people I want to companion from there many months after my plan of "grab Selvaria, run from the evil spiral master race, prank war the shit out of Maximilian" was finalised?

>>51248323
>>51248388
Ganbare!

Actually, how pertinent-guys, if you posessed EX rank Territory Creation, as a Devil-Tiger how far could you use that to enhance your ability to create demesnes and manses aspected towards yourself?

>>51248427
Personally I'd go with galvanism myself, since the canon EX magic resistor (Joan) is immunised to beneficial magecraft too.

Looking them up their "main" effects seem to be an apples and oranges kind of deal, so I...guess you could tank an arbitrarily higher degree of magic to convert into bioelectricity?

>>51248212
Well, what you might be able to do is Spark, and then use the FSN or other Post-Spark wishes to make it so your jumper won retroactively.
You might also be able to use The Gun That Could Kill The Past somehow.

>>51248344
Again, you seem to be ignoring a lot of last thread.

1. A+ Charisma
2. Allies from 1, and implying the Magi will even be a threat to me, and that I can't point them at JUMPER
3. Help allies kill the strongest other Servants, kill their masters, and then kill them while they're weak.

Just don't pretend that you aren't shitposting.

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>>51248428
Why not both?

Nah seriously, look up Astolfo and young Iskander. Twink seems slightly more likely though, considering Ko-Gil just looks like regular Gil but shorter and happier.

>>51248030
>Yes, all circuits are. Or rather, all effective circuits.
Personally doing this cause I love doing math on stuff like this.
Number of Effective Magic Circuits
20 (Freebie) + 3000 (Dragon Heart) = 3020
Quantity of Prana able to be produced per 'Effective Magic Circuit'
30 (Rin's original quantity) x 3 (Blue Blood from Average One) = 90
Grand total of units that you can produce via this way:
3020 x 90 = 271, 800 units of prana (From what I've heard that's 2.7 Ecaliblasts supposed 100K)
I'd imagine that not even half of this is safe to channel for a normal human, heat induction alone would back a human alive but as you have the captstone boosted Dragon Heart you might be able to tap into more that that.

>>51248277
Are you literally omnipotent? No? Then you might want to consider another jump. Make no mistake, there are truckloads of world-ending threats in Soul Hackers, they're just more insidious than Thor dropping a nuclear bomb on Japan.

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>>51248427
Depends on the situation. Mag Res will serve you better overall but Galvanism is much better at a certain type of thing while being completely useless against magic that isn't under it's umbrella.

I'd imagine if you had both you'd get the effects of both. Not sure why you'd get anymore then that.

>>51248428
They'd be happy Family Men in general, since most would have lived out long, happy lives and had some kids or something.

>>51248452
No, though that'd probably let you project more things.

>>51248453
Yup, 3 main games. Jump covers all of them but it's shit so it does it badly. Think there's a card game or something too.

>>51248493
Neato.

>>51248411
It's all good. Thanks for the jump.

>>51248388

,What's the 'servant' half of a Demi-Servant like? Is it an actual person riding around in your head, or how does that work?

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>>51248453
There are 3 games in the series with a 4th one that's kind of completely different from the first 3. You haven't heard about the other 2 because they both were only on the PlayStation Portable.

Also the companion force is to strong for you to resist, don't fight it. EMBRACE IT.

>>51248477
You also have a free Servant to help you. Unless you decided not to take them.

>>51248453
Only Valkyria Chronicles 1 is worth playing. 2 is basically highschool adventures with tanks and 3 is a bad attempt to fuse the lighter tones of 2 with an actual serious setting like 1.

>>51247967
Well, it's a shame for the first one. I didn't want to replace anyone, but it seems I must.

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>>51248510
You're very welcome.

>>51248512
Fused to your soul. I generally picture it like them being a bijuu while you're the jinchuriki.

>>51248517
God I still love the psp even if it got crushed by the ds.

>>51248531
They...do have their ups and downs, but 1 is indeed the best by far.

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>>51248453
>Actually, how pertinent-guys, if you posessed EX rank Territory Creation, as a Devil-Tiger how far could you use that to enhance your ability to create demesnes and manses aspected towards yourself?
...I have no idea how Fate stuff works, so I can't /really/ say anything about that.

I thought it was something with preparing/enchanting a location to help make you magic easier somehow? Which doesn't seem to do anything with Demesnes/Manses?

>>51248453
>Personally I'd go with galvanism myself, since the canon EX magic resistor (Joan) is immunised to beneficial magecraft too.
>Looking them up their "main" effects seem to be an apples and oranges kind of deal, so I...guess you could tank an arbitrarily higher degree of magic to convert into bioelectricity?

Yeah, but a an EX galvanism will cost me 600 sp, when as a demiservant I only get 1000. Now, I have budgeted an extra 300 cp to turn into sp, but that's still just under half my sp.

Still, being DOCTOR THUNDER is both expensive and worth it.

>>51248508
Remind me, the servant perk tree is discounted to demiservants, but still has to be bought from sp, right?

What perks do I need to survive a blood alcohol content of 100%?

>>51248560
CP.

>>51248477
This is no more convincing than it was a few days ago when you posted the first version.

>shitposting
Presenting arguments and discussing someone's builds, even in a critical way, is not shitposting.

I'm not trying to annoy or anger you. I myself got irritated, because I have a thing about cheating. But I recognize that it doesn't matter.

Do your impossible build, prop it up with flimsy justifications and have fun pretending you're super powerful and cool. That's not really different from what I and other Jumpers are doing.

The one thing that is still slightly bugging me is your continued pretense that your build is fine but oh well. You're allowed to think that.

>>51248568
There is one in Captain Harlock, one in Space Station 13, and one in Gonzo Journalism.

>>51248508
>No, though that'd probably let you project more things.
Hmm... Would you say it's completely impossible, or that it depends on how you go about increasing your spiritual/soul-power? I'm trying to figure out if there'd be someway to make it viable when you're fighting against/using EX-rank weapons at minimum.

>>51248522
You know, since nobody seems to have bothered to read the last thread, maybe I should point it out to them.

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/51232131/#q51241739

>>51248196
Man, that's a shame. It would have been hilarious. Oh well, thanks for answering. Uh, quick question, if I use the EMIYA sample for my Servant build, does that make me EMIYA, or just a copy of him?

>>51248568
An origin in any jump that makes you Irish.

More seriously, an inorganic alt-form that doesn't require blood.

As a specific example, I think Omega Self Molecule Manipulation would let you turn all your blood into booze.

>>51248613
>An origin in any jump that makes you Irish.
But that would kill me if I ever let it drop below 80%!

>>51248568
Poison immunity.

Note that it'll prevent the positives too.

>>51248581
Does the difficulty in First Magic scale more to power or complexity of the item/crafting process? Would it, for example, take just as long to figure out how to create a nuke (or large, non-nuke bomb, as those are still pretty complex) as it would to create an EX-rank Noble Phantasm?

I know it's a touchy topic, but is it possible to become nigh-omnipotent pre-spark in a timely (i.e. not trillions of years) manner?

>>51248677
Yes.

>>51248677
>>51248682
No

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>>51248597
I'd say it's completely impossible. UBW as an ability is independent of your own power. EMIYA is far, far more powerful in every way then Shirou, certainly in amount of magical power, and yet their UBW share the same limitations. Improving the amount of magic would let you use it more/use weapons at the limit of it's power more, but it won't ever increase the rank of the ability directly by just getting stronger yourself.

Not saying it's impossible to increase that limit, just not through these means.

>>51248608
If you want, that'd make you EMIYA, giving you his memories, personality and so on as if you took him as an origin. That's an old option that's been around for the Servant stuff for a while. If you don't want, you can still take it without all that, though you will get the distortion and personality changes to make UBW fitting for you to have, since the supplement bought ones don't get the cp protection the jump one has.

>>51248666
Both are equally part of it, in addition to size and quantity and supernatural nasuword bullshit. It'd take much longer to figure out an EX rank then a nuke because despite having similar power levels in terms of destruction (At least for some), the NP also has all the magic bullshit and concept stuff linked to it that make it speshul that you'd need to get around.

>>51248677
>>51248682
>>51248694
Maybe.

>>51248677
>>51248682
>>51248694
Maybe so.

>>51248494
So what other jumps are that dangerous?

>>51248677
Nigh omnipotence is doable.
You could probably do it under 50 jumps if you speedrun without a fuckton of metagaming.
You can be literally capital G God in DC if you know what you're doing though.
So I guess one jump is the minimum if you wank really really hard and have a DC wiki article open in the other window

>>51248677
>>51248682
>>51248694
>>51248703
I don't know

>>51247782
Wherever I am I must rape
Mostly mind control sometimes not

>>51248703
>>51248694
>>51248682
I should have foreseen this, but I was expecting tea

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Hey Dudes,
which are you favorites jump settings? I'm looking for some which are not in the drive.
+1 eldritch potato if you have a link to them.

>>51248677
>>51248682
>>51248694
>>51248703
>>51248713
Can you repeat the question?

>>51248722
That's full on omnipotence though, not nigh-omnipotence.

>>51248677
>>51248682
>>51248694
>>51248703
>>51248721
Could you repeat the question?

>>51248017
Is Voyager of the Storm's effect homebrewed? All I seem to be able to find is the FGO info.

>>51248735
>>51248742
You two are married now. Have fun with your new spouse.

>>51248723
If they're not in the drive they're either unfinished or explicitly unwanted here.

>>51248666
>>51248682
>>51248694
>>51248713
>>51248735
YOUR NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW!

>>51248723
What do you mean by that? Do you mean settings for jumps that haven't been made yet? Favorite jumps that aren't on the main drive?

>>51248723
Jump settings not on the drive? Uh, the new Madoka jump isn't on the drive yet, I think? I'm curious why you would want one not on the drive yet, though.

>>51248702
So how long would you say it'd take to be able to create a tactical nuke? Strategic?

>>51248716
How do I be capital G God in DC? Does this have anything to do with the new stuff with the presence?

>>51248677
Dimension Lord + I Am The Fortress.

There, now you're powerful enough to punch out an aspect of God.

>>51248766
>We will never have a jump of the anime from the theme song
>Those lines won't be the drop-in perk tree
Supposedly, it actually wasn't that good.

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>>51248777
>Not making this instead

>>51248702
If you get a clone of an existing Reality Marble, could you fluff yourself as having a different psychosis? Like, say, Infinite Forge Works instead makes you obsessed with creation?

>>51248597
Val said Bone of My Sword would let you project NPs of one type without a loss in power. Then do the thing that lets you make them more powerful by braking them. Now you're spamming NPs that are more powerful that the original.

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>>51248753
>>51248753
Nah.

http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Rider_(Fate/Grand_Order_-_Edward_Teach)

http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Rider_(Fate/Extra)

>>51248723
I have an eldritch potato already, so no thanks.

>>51248531
>>51248517
>>51248508
...oof.

Whelp.

>>51248549
Fair enough, and indeed-but things sometimes get a little wonky at EX level, the EX rank for Item Creation for example lets you create NPs which are normally something the skill shouldn't be able to.

And I was thinking because Fate Territories involve conceptual leyline rejiggering, so I wondered if high level Territory Creation would help infuse my Essence flows into the local leylines.

>>51248702
>Get all of EMIYA's stuff, including a possibly upgraded version of his UBW and stats for more CP.
>In exchange you get his memories and personality, plus the distortion
Hmm...I guess I could use the Lily template so that it's not as bad, but man, that'll be rough still. Being EMIYA is suffering. Do I still have to keep the personality/distortion post-jump in order to use his UBW?

>>51248666
>>51248777
Nice trips, God-Satan. But please don't nuke us.

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Jump # 171 Nechronica
# of Sisters: 3
Location: Europe
Age:17
Gender: Female
Position: Alice
Main Class: Romanesque
Sub Class: Romanesque
Perks:
*Undefeatable heart (0)
*Maiden (100, Discount)
*Healing (100, Discount)
*Warm Smile (100, Discount)
*Princess (100, Discount)
*Battle Maiden (0)
*Dance of Death (0)
*Deranged Gears (0)
*Mint Condition (200)
*Karmic Corpse (200)
*Regeneration (200)
Enhancements:
*Hopper (0)
*Reflexes (0)
*Voice Effect (0)
*Steel Bones (0)
Treasure – Photograph

Sisters:

Bianca Ferrari
Position –Automaton
Main Class - Requiem
Sub Class – Stacy
Age:11
Skills
*Foes are Foes
*Remain Dead
*Gun God
*Concentration
*Lullaby
Armaments:
*Sniper Rifle
*Shotgun
*Armor Plating
Mutation:
*Heart
Treasure: Doll
Fetters:
*Raven: Protective
* Rosa: Attached
* Raine: Devoted

Rosa Delgado
Position – Sorority
Main Class- Psychedelic
Sub Class- Romanesque
Age: 12
Skills:
*Self Control
*Waltz
*Will to Refuse
*Distort Power
*Concentration
Enhancements
*Armor Skin
*Steel Bones
*Cyborg
Treasure: Stuffed Animal
Fetters:
*Raven: Dependent
* Bianca: Friendly
* Raine: Devoted

Raine Heartly
Position: Junk
Main Class: Thanatos
Sub Class: Requiem
Age: 16
Skill:
*Dweller In Hades
*Rear Guard’s Pride
*Calamity
*Dead on Target
*One’s Many Charms
Enhancement:
*Steel Bones
Armaments:
*Armor Plating
*Boost
*Martial Arts
Treasure: Necklace
Fetters:
*Raven: Protective
* Bianca: Friendly
* Rosa: Dependent

Sometimes the hardest thing you have to do in a jump is experience the world. Everthing was dead… including me. I was glad not to be alone though I had 3 other girls with me, Sisters who awoke in the same hell hole. There was Rosa, Bianca and Raine.

If there was a good thing aside them from the jump it was Alice seemed right at home. After the girls got over their initial fear and suspicion of her as a Necromancer (but not the one who made them) they became fast friends.

(to be continued)

>>51248844
Damn it all, my google-fu has failed me. Thanks man!

>>51248512
Unless you take the drawback then its just you gaining the memories and abilities that you bought.

>>51248508
>card game

I pretty sure that the card game only exists so that the artist can test how far they can increase the proportions of characters.

Perk that increases everyone to the card games standards of appearance in the remake jump?

>>51248702
If you are good enough with the first magic could you create things you don't even understand?

>>51248865
I managed to offend Alice, when she asked why I wasn’t bringing my wives in to the world and I revealed I was disgusted at being undead and expected them to be as well; yeah one of these days I’ll upgrade my brain to be faster than my mouth, It was the first time I came to realize that… she wasn’t ashamed of being undead. What can I say I am dense to obvious things sometimes? The worst of it was I didn’t know how to apologize because I had been honest.

So I brought out Sans after taking a walk. I brought him out to cheer me up but after we fought off some monsters her kind of set me straight by asking what I would do if one of my wives had been turned undead (the answer was first panic, then try and fix it, then if that’s not possible learn to deal with it). He informed me I was wrong by not giving them that chance.

So I got back made up with Alice (I admitted undead and death are scary to me, but she had shown me it was ok to be undead and I realized it was my problem and I was working through it), brought out my wives, maybe it’s not surprising they reacted about as I would have.

Not long after we were attacked by some horrible dragon made of stitched together dolls and mechanical parts, using the dolls suffering as a weapon. I used bard song to counter it’s horrible cries that were messing everyone up while Sans put it out of it’s misery.

(to be continued again)

>>51248865
I presume you're going to deliver some karmic justice upon the Necromancers, given what they've done to mankind and the Dolls?

>>51248677
What the fuck does 'nigh-omnipotent' even mean? You're either omnipotent or you aren't.

>>51248898
I got really pissed and hunted down the necromancer. He threw everything at me but the kitchen sink but … well I’m a jumper. However I realized killing the bastard would do nothing as he was pretty much a full time body surfer. I also realized he was doing what he did because he had killed the world and really had nothing to do, by fighting him I was giving him what he wanted. I was prepared to walk away (realizing by giving him hope but then fleeing to somewhere he couldn’t reach it would probably break him) but… Sans showed up.

Sans had become the spirit of justice in Ghost Rider. He penance stared the Necromancer obliterating him down to his corrupt soul. After that we set about fixing the world.

>>51248864
I have bad news for you. According to the end of SMT 2 God-Satan loves nukes.

>>51248781
I believe someone actually wrote up a guide on how to do in one of the previous threads.
Something about taking his position when he's not around?
I don't really know the specifics outside of it being possible.

>>51248921
hence "nigh-omnipotent". It's a simple concept anon

>>51248892
Yes. You don't even need to be good with it. That's literally the First Magic, as in, understanding something will only make it a third easier to learn how to create.

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>>51248847
Some Dood asked this earlier in the last Thread or the one before it IIRC. Valeria said distortion is permanently a part of you, then said something about taking it down, but I can't recall the full converation. >>51248702 Valeria?

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>>51248777
Just...sometimes I wonder if anyone even reads what I post or write on the first. You know one of the examples in the jump on the centuries level is creating atomic explosions with finger snaps right?

>>51248831
If it's exactly the same RM, no. If it's different, then yes.

>>51248847
Yup. If you don't have that, you don't have the RM.

>>51248881
There will be the Raita perk

>>51248892
As long as you know what it is you are making, you don't necessarily have to understand it.

>>51248948
Gauntlet asked if he could make something that could turn that mental change off and on, thus turning the RM off and on (Or at least the ability to summon it). I said yes. I assume that's what you're referring to.

>>51248921
Nigh-Omnipotent means you can easily fool anyone below you in terms of power that you actually are omnipotent. Basically, high-tier reality warping whose limits are only known to your equals and superiors.

Would a reality marble that revives all enemies I have killed to fight by my side be okay? like an evil version of Ionioi Hetairoi.

>>51248911
Well I tried to break him because I had no way of killing him. I tend to avoid soul manipulating stuff. I figured he had made his own hell all I had to do was make him realize it. However Sans, the true hero of this particular Jump decided on a different end.

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>>51248922

So he gave the Necromancer a really, really, bad time.

He probably could have done that even without the penance stare though, the penance stare would just by the icing on the SIN cake.

>>51248925
According to the ending of SMT 2 God has a fucking pyramid kill sat. And Satan is the one that fires it.

>>51248922
Raven, there's more then one Necromancer. They're spread all over the world, as warlords. Not all of them are bad (some of them seem to be like Alice in that they just want to play with Dolls/friends again), but a good majority are.

>>51248960
>>51248948
Welp, that's a thing. Eh, I'll figure something out. Thanks, Val and Dood.

>>51248982
Sure, up to the limit of Ionioi if you're buying at the same rank.

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>>51248844
>And I was thinking because Fate Territories involve conceptual leyline rejiggering, so I wondered if high level Territory Creation would help infuse my Essence flows into the local leylines.
Hm... Sounds like it might allow you to make Demesnes then? Is it actually faster than just Shaping a demesne/manse though?

But anyway, I've got no clue. And it's just about 4am here, so I should probably leave it at that.

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>>51248960
Thanks for the clarification Valeria,

>>51248990
You do you, dood.

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>>51248960
>That Spoiler
Ohhhhhhh my god.

>>51248960
>All these people not realizing that the best use of true magic is to snap your fingers and fill the room to the brim with dildos
Thanks taking the time to answer questions, we don't deserve you.

How useful is Raildex magic?

>>51248990
>there's more then one Necromancer
The jump lets you fanwank how many Necromancers there are, so you can have there be only one if you want to.

>>51247640
>Fallout jump that take place before the war.
Why? I know we have a lot of lore regarding the state of the world before the bombs fell, but I don't think a pre-war Fallout jump would work.

Why not make one set in the Fallout 1 & 2 era?

>>51249061
Very. But going to that jump is suicide so it doesn't matter.

>>51248960
How different does it have to be? Could it literally just be something like "Makes swords, but straight from a sea of molten metal"?

>>51249037
That's generally the reaction to seeing Raita's...tastes, yes.

>>51249046
Glad to help.

>>51249073
Both of them or just Index?

>>51249061
Every mage is a baby Q.

>>51249065
I just want to experience the world before the war, man. And it might not work out, who knows. If I ever get close to finishing it we'll find out.

>>51249037
>>51249084

As that one anon that follows the Disgea DLC jump would say

Bodacious Babes

>>51249073
Why is it suicide?

>>51249081
It'd have to be different mechanically in some way.

>>51249064
Eh, that's true, fair enough. I just thought I'd mention that canonically there are multiple Necromancers. We've got online translations that mention that the Necromancers used to fight each other for control of the destroyed world, then realized it was fucking pointless, got bored, and basically said "I'll leave you alone if you leave me alone." I can't remember if the surviving humans got slaughtered before or after that happened, though.

>>51249061
It ranges everywhere from "take an hour to set a ritual for a minor spell" to "lasers that destroy things in orbit" to "guy who doesn't know magic exists accidentally sets up a ritual with cheap souvenirs that rips an archangel out of Heaven" to a literal "I Win" power with basically no rhyme or reason.

And that's before you get into Majins who can casually destroy and remake universes (sort of) and the guy who can slaughter a race of Majins, and the being that's stronger than that guy, and the Thing in Touma's arm that's apparently stronger than God.

Don't do Index magic, kids.

>>51249088
Railgun has an option to plot dodge and make it slice of life.
Index doesn't so you're dealing with a bunch of bullshit that while not technically insurmountable might as well be.
At the point where you'd be able to realistically deal with it you really don't have much to get out of it.

>>51249112
If you know a certain character exists you die instantly as soon as the jump starts. There's ways around it, but I imagine a lot of jumpers got pasted by accident.
That's not even getting into the fact you've got people going around destroying and remaking the universe.

>>51249112
There was a huge power creap that happened later in the Light Novels and suddenly the power level went from "could take on a city with no problems" at highest to "could take on all reality no problem" at highest.

You technically could just sit in the sidelines as long as you don't do something like involve yourself in the plot. Buts lets just say that must early jumpers should avoid it like the plague until they have reality warping resistance.

>>51249112
Because it is full of really scary shit, there is all sorts of nasty assholes that would make a late chain jumper shit themselves with fear.

There is a guy with a conceptual "I Win" attack who wants to aim it at all of humanity, a bunch of antagonistic reality warping gods, and one asshole who can casually stomp both of the previously mentioned piles of bullshit. They are all dicks and the sheer nonsense of the MC's plot armor makes you almost sure to butterfly it (and there for the world's survival) away.

>>51248990
>Raven, there's more then one Necromancer. They're spread all over the world, as warlords. Not all of them are bad (some of them seem to be like Alice in that they just want to play with Dolls/friends again), but a good majority are.

I thought it was unclear, Since the Necromancer is like the DM of the game I decided to go with one.

>>51249084
Yes. Yes indeed.

And it is FUCKING GLORIOUS.

>>51249180
>If you know a certain character exists you die instantly as soon as the jump starts.
What.

>>51249138
What.

What even is this?

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Jumpers.

How much is too much?

>>51249213
This is more than slightly misleading as the effect just makes you go comatose if you hold THAT BITCH any aggression. Not instant death though.

>>51249222
There is no such thing

>>51249126
Eh, alright. It just seems like there'd be more mentalities related to summoning swords than literally being a weapon.

>>51249222
Desire is the cause of suffering.

>>51249213
>What
Anon is mistaken, it isn't that you die you just fall into a coma.

There is a horrible character whom it is almost impossible not to hate, anyone who holds ill will towards her is put into a coma instantly.

>>51249213
>What even is this?
The Index universe is a weird, dangerous place.

>>51249222
Never enough

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>>51249211
I'll admit, I don't mind some of them. He can go too far sometimes but some of them are...rather nice.

>>51249226
>>51249241
Vento is a nice young lady and you're all just haters.

>>51249226
>>51249241
Also, to be clear, the coma is caused by her wind magic being able to manipulate the concept of cellular respiration, so as to starve your brain of oxygen. So if you have a biology that doesn't need oxygen to get to your brain, you'll be fine.

>>51249249
She seals candy from children specifically because she think's it's funny when kids get mad at her and get stuck in comas.

Speaking of God's Right Seat, is there any way to move their powers to someone else. It would save a lot of trouble if I could just give them to my companions.

>Nechronica

Was this getting updated? I vaguely remember the author saying something about that. Did anything ever happen with that?

>>51249204
Well, that's cool, you can do that. Thought I'd bring it up, though, in case you just didn't know. The translations mention that there are multiple Necromancers, who each have their own territory. They used to fight for control, except they can body surf, bring their soldiers back, and the world's already wrecked, so they just said "Fuck it" and gave up. The world's kind of shit, to be honest, with the only surviving life being the Necromancers and anti-undead bio-weapons, specifically plants and insects that eat zombies. No, I am not kidding. Plus, there are holes in reality, the local equivalent to Warp storms...shit sucks.

>>51248784
Spectre is nowhere near God.

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>>51249285
She's just misunderstood. Look at that face. Does that look like a face that would harm a child?

>>51249213
So imagine Type Moon conceptual effects got dumped in a bowl with unending shounen escalation and terrible harem animes. That's pretty much Index.

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Just in case any of you thought I was kidding.

>>51249249
Vento of the front is a card carrying bitch who intentionally acts like an intolerable cunt so that her power screws over as many people as possible. Even children!

>>51249285
You also don't have to know it's her, the spell can trigger on abstract concepts of aggression. So if she steals your car, and you get mad at the abstract thought of the person who stole your car, it still hits you. So she'll just go around doing random things to make people miserable so that the spell will trigger when they discover them.

>>51249300
I think so? We got some new info on everything being caused by SCIENCE! Plus the lore and the setting got expanded. I can't remember who the jumpmaker was, though. I do remember some anon getting really pissed about it, because he didn't like it being science or something.

>>51249315
Noice.

>>51248960
Would you say spears are valid for UBW, as they're basically swords on a stick?

For the anon worried about congenital issues and similar last thread. Body Mod is your base body or average chosen on a basis of each individual area, so no need to worry about that. You're guaranteed to be free of that sort of thing unless you really want to keep it for some daft reason. I was there back in the day and asked due to that very same reason.

>>51249309
Yes!

>>51249336
Yes, I believe Gae Bolg was projectable, but it's got a significantly higher cost to do so then it would for a sword of the same rank.

>>51249309
That face is harming me just be looking at it.
Did a grenade go off in her face or something?

>>51248776
>>51248761
>>51248769

Indeed you make references to CYOA which are not in the drive, so I assumed there where more accepted CYOA than the drive shows. Like Madoka, etc.

>>51249302
I'll admit I didn't know all that. I just remembered that there was a thing that there may be more than one necromancer. I looked at the translation notes not long after the jump was released. They weren't complete then if I remember correctly. I do appreciate the info.