Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1290: The City Of The Saved Edition

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Reposting for those who missed it.

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>>51232056
...maybe you should have a bit more of a think on this and look up this sword more.

>>51232070
Purely skill.

>>51232148
Ah, so learning boosters + that perk that lets you auto train from Master of Magic or whatever + 66 Million would work?

>>51232141
Can/do you still undergo magical girl transformations if you give up your soul gem?

>>51232163
Maybe. I dunno what half the things you mention are. It's just skill training so if you can train a skill in those, I guess you could.

>>51232169
If you mean 'opting out' in-jump, then no. You're gonna have to get a costume a different way. If you mean getting rid of the Soul Gem post-jump after having one, then yes.

>>51232141
Is the source of all known joy in the world available?

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Reposting from the last thread. Last call for criticism, comments, suggestions, or wanton allegations about my mother before this Jump heads to the drive.

Ogre Battle - The March of the Black Queen, now with enhanced editing!

>>51232197
If you get rid of it post-jump, does the below clause now apply to you?

>will have a slightly higher energy requirement (in the form of either your stamina or a magical ‘energy pool’ you already possessed) to compensate for the lack of a Soul Gem.

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>>51232214

Fuck jumps that leave you with 50cp left with shit perks/items.

Seriously, not cool.

>>51232304
Magical energy drains either from your stamina or (if available) a different magical pool of energy you have access to once you don't have/need a Soul Gem anymore. Make sense?
>>51232319
>>51232214
Golden Grace.

>>51232197
Post-jump, how do you activate the transformation without a Soulgem? Is it basically just always on, something you will to occur?

>>51232194
Would you be able to use the First Magic to create a universe by the time the Stelliferous Era ends (100 trillion years)? If not, how many and which learning boosters and/or time dialation abilties/items would you need to be able to do so in that time?

>>51232341
You just will it to happen, basically.

>>51232333
>Spoiler
That's a cheap knockoff and you know it. What I want to know is, can I get the original?
Canon companion option?

>>51232349
Could you add
>>51229022 and >>51229074 ?

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>>51232355
Look under the OC companions. Should be called 'Don't Forget.'
>>51232362
Maybe later. You could totally just use Vanity's Reward to get outfits based off of other Megucas, though.

>>51232344
No, it'd take a lot longer then that to create an entire universe, given the mooncell example was trillions of years. It'd take a basically arbitrary amount of time, many times longer then the mooncell example.

Not really my job to find perks from other jumps for you.

>>51232349
How fast is it? Will you be screwed if you're ambushed? Is the transformation itself draining?

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>>51232380
Pretty quick - transformation sequences don't linger for long in Madokaland. Depends on the situation. No, not really.

>>51232373
>You could totally just use Vanity's Reward to get outfits based off of other Megucas, though.
Wouldn't they disappear once you used Vanity's Reward again though? Or would you be able to take your current outfit off and use Vanity's Reward to get a different outfit without making the one you took off disappear?

>>51232373
I don't know much about madoka, so assuming it still runs on soul gems and grief seeds, would Minecrafts EE or Cheat Mode or Kid Radd's Pixilator be able to copy them?

>>51232349
Do you have to transform to use magic post-jump?

>>51232375
What about being able to do it by (total) Heat Death? Supposedly that would take about a googol years, would that be long enough?

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>>51232431
If you didn't keep your Soul Gem, no. If you kept it, yes. That obviously only applies to magic from the jump itself, though.
>>51232414
I...you read the jump, right? Grief Seeds have stopped being relevant. It's mostly the weird red stuff Wraiths leave behind now. And I don't rule on other jumps. You could stockpile it, but the return-energy spent ratio is a bit different compared to Witches, so you'd need to collect a tiny bit more. Not by much, though.
>>51232407
You can switch between outfits using Vanity's Reward. Don't really see why not.

>>51232349
Eh, wouldn't it make more sense to be an always-thing? Isn't the whole transformation just allowing the magic of the Soulgem to course through your body? And since it's innate at that point...

>>51232439
Sure, why not.

>>51232439
THERE IS AS YET INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER

>>51232457
See >>51232455 . It's not really important at that point.

>>51232455
>I...you read the jump, right? Grief Seeds have stopped being relevant. It's mostly the weird red stuff Wraiths leave behind now. And I don't rule on other jumps. You could stockpile it, but the return-energy spent ratio is a bit different compared to Witches, so you'd need to collect a tiny bit more. Not by much, though.
I'm only about halfway through. Debating being a hero or a rouge though.

But, can I replicate them? I just don't want a damocles hanging over my head, so i'm looking for a lazy way out.

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>>51232513
If you have a way to do so, there's no fiat wall that's stopping you. Just be prepared to stockpile a pretty fair amount of it.

But if you do not fight, anon, you will not survive!

>>51232457
Anon, are you saying you don't want magical girl transformations? Don't take this away from us.

>>51232479
I get that reference!

What's Chaos like in Dragonlance? Is freeing it going to fuck over the mortals more than the gods do?

>>51232455
>You can switch between outfits using Vanity's Reward. Don't really see why not.
Well, my question was more for companions' sake, as in, could I take off an Vanity's Reward outfit, and let them wear it without them going naked the next time I used Vanity's Reward.

>>51232538
Cool.

>Spoiler
No. Fuck your deathmatch bullshit. I'm here for the cake option. Or, I am now.

>>51232559
You mean, using it like a clothesbeam? Hmm...it's an interesting enough idea that I'm okay with giving that a pass. Sure, go nuts.
>>51232568
Well Ryuki IS next on the menu...

>>51232141
Would the Purification Shot do more damage against demons?

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Carnival Phantasm wrtiefagging: http://pastebin.com/hX4tvtUF

Fate/Jumpchain Jump 062:
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
Servitude [+000]
Lewd Leanings [+100]
Helping Heart [+200]
Royal Rage [+300]
‘Location’: The First Holy Grail War
Origin: Enforcer [-100]
Perks:
Status Page [Free]
Magic Circuits [Free]
Reality Marble () [-800]
Academia [-100]
Combat Magus (Wing Chun) [Free]
‘Useless’ Magic [-100]
Runes [-200]
Gear:
Dapper Dressing [Free]

Companion Immigration [-300]

Servant Write-Up: http://pastebin.com/rBm5SAft

So this Jump opens up on an awkward note that is going to define the entire decade.

"I am Servant of the Bow, Demon Archer I ask of you," I got up from my bow and took in the staring face of my 'Master', "ohshitZouken!" The sound of a matchlock rifle rang out and I growled as the young man fell backwards, shot in the hip when I was sure that I'd followed the correct instinct for a automatic head-shot. I glanced down at myself. "ThefuckI'mtiny!"

Are there any perks, other than just regen perks, that will let me smoke without harming my lungs? Gotta have those Salts.

>>51232660
>using vigors
I've heard that using those will eventually turn you into a splicer, albeit not as quickly as plasmids.

>>51232660
Magical Girl Noir has a perk for that.
I mostly use it for aesthetics and maki ng people think I'm drunk

I need help. I'm the one who is doing the Mob Psycho 100 jump, which includes a capstone booster, and for the life of me, I cannot figure out how to boost this perk:
Urban legend (600, discount spirit)
Ah. This is interesting indeed. You cannot be harmed by anyone that fears your reputation. Attacks, whether physical or mental, don't harm you in the least. Note that they have to fear your reputation, not you, for this to work, though if they stop fearing your reputation after seeing what a wimp you are, you'll be harmed.

>>51232723
....no.

>>51232723
That's...a bit too broken anon.

>>51232723
Well, first off someone probably going to yell at you for that being OP.

Second, damage reflection?

>>51232723
Maybe make it so you can't be harmed by anyone who has any sort of (negative) feelings about you?

>>51232677
Technically having any Adam based stuff makes you a splicer. That said Vigors are of much higher quality compared to plasmids, since you don't need to constantly shoot up with ADAM using Vigors should render the dangers minimal.

>>51232723
That perk is one massive nope, as in do not include that perk in it's current form.

>>51232723
Maybe reduce it to just making you way tougher instead of outright immunity because that's bullshit op right now.

>>51232723
Capstone boosters are stupid.

>>51232735
>>51232744
>>51232746
>>51232750
Ugh. Fine, I'll redo it.

>>51232765
Try something like what this anon >>51232760 suggested?

>>51232765
You probably shouldn't have asked about it if you didn't want to have to nerf it.

>>51232765
How about what it is now being the boosted, and having it just be some massive reputation booster? Invincibility may be OP, but 'to scared to attack you' isnt.

>>51232782
Then he just has to nerf it when he posts the jump.

>>51232785
>What it is now as the boost
No, that's still insane. Especially if the base effect is giving you that reputation you need automatically.

>>51232375
Can I use the Item Creation Skill to compose Music that generates some kind of magical effect when played? Can it be used to compose Poetry, and other similarly immaterial forms of art?

>>51232810
Doubtful. But SCP has Anartist, which is pretty much exactly what you're looking for.

>>51232765
A reputation booster where the capstone boost effect buffs you and nerfs them whenever you face anyone who is afraid of you? Have the buff/nerf scale with how much they fear you?

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>>51232723
Wouldn't the high end for Spirits be something like Kami Dimple?

>>51232810
Not directly. I guess you could make magical instruments or books but the music or words themselves won't be magical. It's meant for making material objects, not immaterial art. That's better represented by either skills like magic systems or things like Alluring Nightingale or protection of the music god.

Do we have anything that would allow me to "partition" my energy pools? Basically something so I can set aside a specific amount that will never be used for anything but a specific effect?

>>51232660
Gonzo Journalism has one.

>>51232236
Why is she marching?

>>51232555
It wants to start a war with everyone and destroy shit because it's butthurt it got sealed away.

All right, is this less OP?
Congratulations! You are now immune to damage by anyone that fears you. No, I'm just kidding. That'd be stupid, and anyone that came up with that perk would be stupid. Instead, anyone that fears you enough to want to run away does about half as much damage to you as they normally would. Potentially double the amount of hits you can take!

And the booster is being affected by amount of fear.

I just want you to like me.

>>51232586
>Clothesbeam

WANT.

>>51232932
Seems much better.

>>51232932
Get rid of the passive-aggressive whining and it might work, yeah.

>>51232932
The meta self depreciation is op as fuck.

>>51232932
Looks good to me.

I've noticed you, Kohai.

>>51232586
For the normal person drawback, can it be alleviated slightly by going to the original PMMM and letting someone know that I'm a jumper?

>>51232932
Cut the beginning and it is fine.

Though if I might suggest instead having reducing the damage you take from any source that fears you based on how much they fear you. With the capstone boost strengthening the effect and making those who fear you take more damage from your attacks.

>>51232932
Leave whiny meta shit out of jumps.

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>>51232932
Is this going to be based on the anime or the manga or both?

Also this guys >>51232995 suggestion is pretty solid.

>>51233024
The manga. Though, anime references may slip in.

>>51232538
Post-Spark, can rewind be used to go further back than 24 hours?

>>51233048
The anime follows pretty well though, right?

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>>51233048
Cool beans Psycho Helmet Anon.

I suggest a wording kinda like this for the perk in question:
Those who fear you deal less damage, in proportion to how much they fear you. A person who lives in abject fear of your very name would deal minimal damage whilst even those who are only intimidated by you in person would find their blows faltering.

Just a suggestion for you.

>>51233129
The order of some events goes a little out but mostly from what I've seen yeah.

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Guys, guys, I have here in my possession an actual image leaked from the upcoming Clustertruck jump.

No, I'm serious.

>>51233149
Holy fuck I've never been so hyped

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>>51233149
Beautiful.

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>>51233149
Anon, I-

>>51232141
>Strange Apartment
Was it ever explained how she got that, or was it just assumed it was rigged it up with time and space magic?

>>51233182
Wait a sec, I thought the lesbo in the red parachute pants was immortal.

>>51233268
I think Hourai Immortals can die, but they just revive immediately after.

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>>51233268

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>>51233268
It's resurrective immortality.

>>51233282
Isn't she a pheonix or something, though?

>>51233300
That is also a ressurective form of immortality.

>>51233300
No, I think thats a reference to her constantly jumping into a volcano and somehow developing fire magic or something like that, I dunno.

>>51233268
>>51233282
>>51233286
>>51233298
>>51233300
>>51233310
>>51233313

Okay, so what's everyone's Touhou builds?

Is Madoka Magica magic something that can be Conjoined Conjured?

how fucked am I if I take the Last Avenger Scenario?

I have a ton of social perks that help me organize people to set aside their differences, I'm planning on taking the villain origin and lets me set up the master plans, I have some pretty good regeneration, and also I'm taking the perk that makes me use super sweet asgardian tech.

My general plan is to band the remaining heroes together, build an army, get some of the villains on my side to go kick the asses of the other villains, and then force out Galacticus and his heralds away from Earth.

>>51233343
Oh god you've broken the seal! The sky will turn red and it shall rain blood!

There's a lot of magical power and regen perks, but does anybody know any good perks for faster casting and casting a lot of spells at the same time?

Is Heavens kill? He went reaaaaaal quiet all of a sudden...

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>>51233268

>>51233377
Might want to get an umbrella then. And some red clothes.

>>51233384
He went to sleep.

>>51233398
>Heavens
>sleeping
Amusing joke, comrade.

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>>51233378

>>51233423
He does that once ever few months anon.

Is there any reason /not/ to kill Trigon if you possess the means to?

>>51233423
Maybe he went to refill his coffee?

>>51233378
>There's a lot of magical regen perks
Are there?

>>51233454
>every few months, the planets align precisely, so that Heavens, slayer of Moons, may find rest
Actually, maybe that's his curse, to never sleep because he keeps blowing up the fucking moon.

>>51233458
Or this.

>>51233456
would probably call a lot of attention to yourself

>>51233475
Moons layer, not moon slayer.

>>51233475
Well, it's hard for the planets to align when all his moon-destruction keeps throwing off their orbits.

>>51233456
Because it's probably better for her development to get Raven to do it.

>>51233613
Would not having to deal with Trigon anymore be enough of a reason for Raven to leave DC as a companion?

>>51233378
Magicka, terraria, Fate/

>inb4 the shitposter starts reeing about Yoro posting on SB

>>51233841
Why did you even have to mention this. Seriously, why?

>>51233852
An instigator. Try to ignore it.

>>51233852
Accidentally hit enter after typing it.
Also, it would've been inevitable.

>>51233852
He is either an idiot, a shit stirrer, or both.

>>51233858
>>51233882
It's called a prediction.

>>51233904
It's called a self-fulfilling prophecy.

>>51233904
It's called a self fulfilling prophecy.

>>51233916
Damn beat me to it.

>>51232853
Valeria if you're still around I would like to know something. If we get a Reality Marble like what Gaunlet did here >>51232610 do we have the same distortion as other users of a RM have or is it just fiat a Reality Marble we have because we bought it with CP?

>>51233649
>Wanting to waifu comics Raven

>>51233456
Because he's a Big Guy.

>>51234251
Not familiar with DC comics. What's this difference between comic Raven and animation Raven?

>>51232853
>Mana Muncher- 100
>Your Servant requires a much greater amount of upkeep then normal, both for maintaining their existence and using their abilities, roughly around twice their usual level. This cannot be taken by those with Independent Action or anyone who naturally regenerates magical energy.

Does this mean if you are a Servant with replenishing mana from another jump you can't take this, or that you normally can since out of jump mana presumably can't maintain a Servant but if you take one of the in jump options like Living Servant which lets you regen mana you cannot take it?

>>51232853
Assuming you have EX Item Creation, would it be possible to have an NP that speeds up the production process of making NPs, or is that too far out there?
Uh, also, would Territory Creation speed things like that up too? What about a Reality Marble?
And how would these things mesh, if it all? Would it even be possible to run all these things at once without 'crashing' so to speak?
Sorry for these potentially stupid and/or annoying questions, but all I know about Fate/ is from the animes, a glance at the wiki, and you guys here in /jc/.

And so far you guys have been more informative than the shows and the wiki put together.

>>51234304
She's a whole lot less crazy in Teen Titans tv series.

>>51234304
The cartoon has more hair

>>51234304
Well comics Raven is known for rape, and her fondness of it. Also the Teen Titan comics are just all around horrible. In general though Raven in the comics is the depressive half demon that just wants to be normal played straight, except for the part where she's just like her dad, and is by nature, so evil that being evil bores her. She's also sort of being used by the forces of good as a weapon against her father, that's basically why she's on the side of good, the forces of good raised/brainwashed her, and being evil is boring.

>>51232141

So, that drawback that makes you a Kyubey. What does that actually do to your backstory if you took a background? Are you some kind of defective incubator or something?

What kinds of powers are teachable/inheritable/etc?

>>51234066
The original Fate jump is the same as ever, distortion is included. I'd heavily discourage use of it honestly, as it'll eventually be removed from the drive.

>>51234325
You can always take it, since it doubles all mana costs. If you've got your own regenning mana, you can still take it, it just makes all your abilities cost twice as much instead of that and needing twice as much upkeep.

>>51234351
Probably possible, though I'd imagine it'd be more speeding up crafting in general then specifically NPs.
TC? No, but it'd make it a lot less costly to make magic items.
RM? Depends on what the RM is.
Run all at once? Well, I doubt you could get both a Territory and an RM fully active at once, since the RM would take you to its arena summon if fully active, but otherwise I don't see why it couldn't work together.

No worries, happy to help.

>>51234535
Val, would Mad Enhancement EX push a stat that was A+++ into EX, or do nothing?

>>51234535
>You can always take it
Oh, so then what does the last sentence refer to other than IA?

>>51234562
It'd probably just give a small boost, as if they got another +, without actually increasing the rating.

>>51234581
You know....I don't know. I suspect that that is actually what I had meant to type into No Natural Mana Replenishment and that I accidentally mixed them up. Sorry about that, I'll switch it back in a bit, since I need to do an update soon for the new skills that got added.

>>51234535
Oh wow, thanks for the answers.
Well, I think I'll just take a pass on the RM, since that's the one I'm most leery of. Muh sanity, etc.

So what would an A Rank NP focused on speeding up crafting do? Double?
Hmmm, how would it manifest? I'm thinking cool-ass looking gloves, but I dunno.

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>>51234535
>distortion is included.
I really should have asked about that before hand. Val could I craft a Noble Phantasm to contain my distortion, kinda like how the red Shroud that Shirou wore to keep Archer from overriding his own mind worked?

>>51234508
Here's Da List:
Bestow-able powers/abilities
>Star Wars: KotOR/Clone Wars/OT (The Force, Cybernetics.)
>Worm (Shard powers.)
>Generator Rex (Nanites.)
>Teen Titans (Mutagens, Cybernetics.)
>X-Men (X-gene Mutations.)
>XCOM (Psionics, Genemods, Cybernetics.)
>Animorphs (Morphing.)
>Killing Bites (Brute Hybrid Surgery)
>F.E.A.R (Psionics.)
>Resident Evil (Virses.)
>Naruto (Chakra.)
>JoJo's Bizaar Adventure (Stands, Vampirism, Hamon, Spin.)
>MCU (Super Soldier Serum, Extremis Formula, Power Armor.)
>RWBY (Aura, Cybernetics.)
>Sims (Vampirism, Lycanthropy, Magic, Human/Plant Hybridization.)
>Full Metal Alchemist (Alchemy, Human/Chimera Hybridization, Homunculi Augmentations.)
>Geneforge (Shaping, Canisters, Magic, The Geneforge.)
>A Certain Scientific Railgun (Esper Abilities.)
>Bloody Roar (Zoanthrope Hybrid surgery.)
>Terra Formers (Mosaic-Organ Hybrid Surgery)
>Bloodborne (Supernatural Blood.)
>Half-Life (Vortessence.)
>Bioshock (Plasmids, Tonics.)
>Bioshock Infinite (Vigors.)
>The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim (Magic, Lycanthropy, Vampirism.)
>Avatar: The Last Airbender (Bending.)
>Franken Fran (Powers via Surgery.)
>Pacific Rim (Kaiju Hybridization Mutagen.)
>DC [DCAU setting] (Power Armor, Mutagens.)
>Hellsing (Vampirism.)
>Van Helsing (Infectious monster forms.)
>Assassin's Creed (Supernatural Blood.)
>Medaka Box (Flask Plan Powers.)
>Iji (Nanites)
>Underworld (Werewolf, Vampire and Immortal Viruses.)
>GUNNM (Nanites, Cybernetics, Mutagens.)
>Deus Ex/Human Revolution (Nanites, Cybernetics.)
>Ghost in the Shell (Cybernetics.)
>Halo (SPARTAN Augmentations.)
>Final Fantasy 6 (Magic.)
>Final Fantasy 8 (Magic.)
>Kim Possible (Nanites, Power Armor, Mutatgens.)
>Marvel (Extremis Nanites, The Techno-Organic Virus, The Venom Symbiote, Iron Man's Armors, Radioactive Spiders, Gamma Radiation.)
>Young Justice (Martian Blood, Mutagens, Reach Scarabs.)
>Ben 10 (The Omnitrix.)

>>51234562
>Mad Enhancement EX
The Absolute Madman

>>51234591
Val, I have a question about EX and discounts. So, let's say I bought two EXs, and I have a discount on both. Would one be 175, and the other 275 (due to another 100 being added) or would the other be 450?

>>51234617
Mm, bit hard since there's no canon. I'd say if you were wanting it to work on any crafting, even something where you're just one of many workers, double at A rank is fine. If it's just on what you're personally making on your own, I'd say triple or even 3.5 is okay for A rank, again with no limits on what it is your crafting, just that it is being made by your own hand.

Gloves of some sort were my thoughts too.

>>51234626
If you mean "Can I make something to carve out a bit of my mind and keep it separate from the rest but still accessable" then sure I'd imagine you could make something like that within the limits of what IC EX can make, but that's the sort of thing you're looking at, since it's already part of you, mind and soul, unlike the arm situation.

>>51234641
You still get discounts, even if you're buying EX rank on both. The surcharge is the only thing that is undiscounted, the rest of it gets discounts as normal.

>>51234652
Thanks for answering my questions Val.

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>>51234670
Anytime.

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>>51234652
More along the lines of 'Can I make something that can suppress the excessive drawbacks of the ability in question' as less a seal and more of a valve.

>>51233472
Sorry, I went to go have dinner.

Well, there's the ridiculous combo from marvel. Getting a dragon core in either one of the fate jumps or king Arthur nasuverse version. FFTA had a ridiculously strong one (zero to full in a little under a minute. Wtf), though it requires you to not cast anything, think. The Gamer has one IIRC. Terraria I think also has a ridiculously good one (100% regen in like 2.5 min, I think? And you don't have to stop casting either, IIRC). Anima quadruples your mana recovery. Those are all the ones I can think of off the top of my head for now, but I'm likely missing a bunch. Personally I just take the FFTA, Terraria and Anima ones. Assuming they stack, that means you're regening 100% of your mana in 15 seconds if you aren't casting and 36(i think) seconds if you are. Combine that with leaky limiter from mushoku tensei for enormous mana reserves and stuff from Iji (50% less cost to everything, including mana), overlord (50% cost reduction for magic, 50% more for summoning magic) and chrono trigger (75% reduction, I think) and you never have to worry about mana again. Honorable mention goes to familiar of zero that lets you bully nature spirits into supplying a large portion of spell costs and magi that lets you use the mana that was recently spent in a spell to cast another spell.
And of course there's the first, second, third and fifth magics from nasuverse that pretty much let you set your mana regen to "YES" at high enough levels. Though irresponsible use of the fifth will end with you accidentally the universe.

>>51234696
Do Berserkers get the multiple lives thing Heracles had? Or are we one and done without OCP stuff?

>>51234724
Not without losing access to the ability.

>>51234736
Why would Berserkers get that? You can buy it as a NP on your own but it only gives one life while in the chain. Post chain, it'll give however many lives it would at the rank you got.

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>>51234742
>Not without losing access to the ability.
A reasonable trade-off. Suppress those things that make you how you are and the Reality Marble won't open up but 'open the valve' so to speak and it becomes accessible at the cost of the distortion taking effect again?

>>51234742
I don't know, I was just looking at the Berserker sample build and I couldn't find anything for it. So I just assumed that was something Berserkers had. Not really familiar with the Nasuverse outside of the basic info I have on Fate/Stay Night.

>>51234779
Nah, it's a specific Noble Phantasm that Herakles has to represent his divine vigor. Other Berserkers have different powers. Kiyohime, for example, turns into a dragon.

>>51234776
Sounds alright.

>>51234779
It's Godhand, the B ranked NP in the Noble Phantasm section of that Berserker build. That build is Heracles specifically, not a generic Berserker.

>>51234797
>>51234801
Oh, alright then. My bad.

>>51234801
Can i take three E rank NP for free instead of the one C rank?

>>51234844
No. You can have an E rank for free instead of a C rank for free, but you don't get more then one free. Servants all have one NP and that is what that freebie is meant to replicate, beyond just costs.

>>51234864
all have at least one*

So what's the highest Gnosis level I can get in Anima in-jump, and how do I do it?

For the ORIGINAL Madoka jump, does the screw you qb option mean that i'm not a magical girl?

>>51234917
Probably 40, and it would be to have something with 50 cast the Ascension or Dark Ascension spell on you.

Did the servant supplement get updated?
The one I'm seeing on the drive looks the same to me

>>51234930
iirc you're still a magical girl, you just didn't make a deal with QB - you made it directly with your Benefactor/Jump-chan.

>>51234996
Given the whole

>+You won't turn into a witch.

Does it matter? Because that's probably the sticking point here.

>>51234977
Not finished, not there yet. Check last thread.

>>51235020
Oh okay, thanks

>>51235020
I think it matters, because "fuck you, Kyubey" is its own moral prerogative. Being able to flip the bird to that little asshole is worth it, even if there was still a risk of turning into a witch.

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>>51232141
Drawbacks: Memory of the Old World, Forbidden Eater, But That's Compulsive Love! Hexed, Magical Girls Must Fight! (1600)

Hero, age 17

Cool Big Brother (Free)
Play Along With Me: Guitar (Free)
Golden Grace: Handsome, Dark (1500
Believe in Justice (1300)
Decretum (1000)
Hidden Power (400)
Soul Gem (Free)
Weapon: Hellstar Guitar (Free)
Walkman (Free)
Very Nice Tea Set (300)
Shard of a Heartbroken Wish (0)

Weapon Summoning (900)
Finale (600)
Purification Shot (0)

I've been here before. Through the power of the pod, I co-authored this world with Madoka-well, more like gave advice and support while she did the heavy lifting. Been hunting endless armies of wraiths with Homura since the early days.

I also set up an anonymous imageboard for magical girls to coordinate/seek advice from/blow off steam by shitposting at each other a while ago. Good ol' Meguchan, cunningly disguised as an actual anime enthusiast forum from normies through the power of memes.

Like many idealistic people I've mentored over the years, to the main cast I'm basically like the older brother everyone looks up to, but who ended up dropping out of school and doing crimes. I've had THAT conversation with Madoka a long time ago.

The reunion was largely sweet, with only a hint of bitter. There was much uproar about my new, new lease on life-especially from Homura, who'd blown up at me ages ago for going down the same dark path I'd warned her off. Madoka did that thing with the puppy dog eyes only Elodie, my sister and my daughter can stick on me with any regularity, gave me a hug and told me to never to do anything like that again. I was honest, and simply affirmed I'm trying but I could make no promises.

The Kyuubey collective was much calmer. We just kept comparing notes. But the DCverse shocked it so badly its' avatars suddenly stopped reacting for a whole hour while it tried to process the implications.

And then we all had tea and crumpets.

>>51234941
45 actually, you'd need some way of casting divine magic though. Other than that one of the three treasures (the Magatama) and on of the elan powers can get you to 30.

Oh boy the servant supplement is being updated
>Canon Nobu is still banned
Well, guess I'll go back to waiting

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>>51232236
Drawback: "I will dare to be Outclassed", "I will dare the Monster Mash" (1100)

"I choose to serve the Black Queen"

"I choose the past of a peasant, worker of the land", age 26

"I wish to wear the Crown" (1400)

Soul Brother (Free)
One Vision (1300)
Fight From The Inside (1100)
Dear Friends (800)
Self Made Man (Free)
Pain Is So Close To Pleasure (600)
"I notice the buzzing of the Golden Beehive" (Free)
“I detect a waft of brimstone from the Vitality Potion.” (Free)
Man on the Prowl (0)

So here's the funny thing I've learned about corruption. The psychological lynchins? They work both ways. Sure, a mob mentality can be whipped into a child cannibal buffet-but it can just as quickly turn into a charity footrace.

I mean, just look at Ebon Dragon Charms. There's nothing stopping you from using them to erase psychologically crippling traumas, make people overcome their favorable bias to abusive spouses and motivate them to change their evil ways. Heck, look at the first excellency. Opposing social darwinism and bureaucratic corruption are ALWAYS valid uses for it.

The point being-the usual web of political intrigue and favors within the ranks of scum can just as surely be a tool for redemption as for emotional deconstruction. Especially the Empress, when I've got new souls to hand out for days.

Anyway, nothing brings about social cohesion like a war on terror. The survivors will be spared and reintegrated, the heretical faiths will be edited into the party line and the diehards-well, that's what the Pyrian reeducation spheres are for.

They don't actually brainwash people, by the way. Now She's regained her empathy again, they literally just gain understanding of what it feels like to be a casualty in an ideology war, and the frequent futility of revolutions.

And while I'm spreading my Essence throughout this world, I'm not in a mood to share. So the Dark Powers can either make a bargain, or get ready for a hostile takeover.

*Drawbacks: "I will dare to be Outclassed", "I will dare the Monster Mash" (1500)

Bah. It's always something when it comes to this keyboard.

>>51234881
If you transfer the mind/soul of the Masters into different bodies then kill the originals would the Command Seals die with them, or would they tag along with the soul?

>>51235732
Tough to say, Kirei stole a servant by cutting of an arm but he also could fuck around with souls because of a spiritual healing trait, or something to that effect.

>>51235796
Sounds like it is possible but it would be a good idea to get some way to manipulate magic to try to ensure the seals stay where they are.

Anyone know of a good way to manipulate magic that might be able to pull that off?

Does the corrupted grail have a physical location or way to access it to try to purify it in the year leading up to the 5th Holy Grail War?

I wonder if it would be possible to make HP wands with the First Magic. . .

>>51236269
Why not? Assuming you've mastered the theory and the crafting.

>>51236269
Probably. HP wands are literally just magic thing stuck inside a stick.
There's finess to make them work properly, but the actual thing itself isn't complicated.

>>51236269
If you've been to the setting there's no reason you couldn't.

>>51236269
Oh, for fu... What about ANYTHING do you not understand?

>>51232141
>invisitext
Daaww.

Cool Cat's, the Skyrim update didn't make it onto the drive.

>>51236299
Just saw it. Is in fact daw.
My plan for that jump is to just give Homura a fucking hug or something and tell rebellion to fuck off. She earned it.

>>51236283
>>51236284
>>51236286
>>51236287
I suppose that is a yes then. . .

>>51236347
It would take decades of study to reach that skill level tho.

>>51236287
A lot of people have difficulty wrapping their head around being able to create literally anything with enough time and practice. As humans they try to understand the First Magic by imposing arbitrary rules onto it when it's literally a power which has no rules and follows no real logic.

Ironically this is one of the biggest issues that actual Magi in the Nasuverse have when it comes to learning True Magic from Magicians. They keep trying to apply logic to a power that doesn't care at all about any of their "rules."

>>51236388
Well there is a logic to it: everything that can exist exists.

>>51236299
I cant seem to read it., Can you spoiler it for me?

>>51236402
That's actually the theory of how the First Magic works, not the proven logic of how it works. It was simply the best description that the original user of the First Magic could offer on how it works; that nonexistence is fake and everything is real. You're using the First Magic to deny nonexistence and cause things to pop into existence. But the very concept is so absurd and flies in the face of all understanding of how the universe works that it makes no sense no matter how many genius Magi try to wrap their minds around it.

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>>51231707
2.6 with that made clearer. And with this I'm away for a couple of days.

>>51236422
Seems simple enough to me. "Make anything" with enough practice. It's like the power of a creator god but on a local scale.

>>51236422
So could the First Magic create the concept of death for beings for which death just isn't a thing?

>>51236416
Forgive me if I fuck these spoilers up.

At the beginning
Eh? Bending the rules rules? Jumper? What are you talking about? How did you..

Oh! Hello, there! I’m surprised you can hear me. My name is Madoka. I don’t really... well, most people can’t really see or hear me anymore. But that’s okay, what I do is really important now! It’s nice to meet you,

It’s okay. If you fall, I’ll catch you...though I think your friend will do it before I can. Don’t worry. you’ll do just fine out there, I promise

Whatever you end up wishing for, don’t use it on something you’ll end up regretting, okay? It should be something you want with all your heart.

And at the very end
Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. Good luck, Jumper

Although if you can't get it to show up. Highlighting it and clicking off the screen should make it visible.

>>51236440
Yes, it does. It makes perfect sense when you stop trying to analyze or measure and simply accept that it can create anything with enough time and effort. But humans, by their very nature, try to understand things by examining them and applying laws and rules based upon their observations. It's simply human nature. Thus for a normal human the First Magic is completely nonsensical.

>>51236451
The First Magic can create anything. This isn't even limited to just objects, it includes things like events and concepts. So yes, it probably could do that.

You'd have to talk to Val for details but I'm almost certain it could do something like that. It obviously wouldn't be able to t destroy concepts like the Fourth apparently can, but it could create and enforce new ones.

>>51236495
wait so why would anyone take any other magic?

>>51236530
Shit's haaaaaaard. And thousands of dedicated years is too much for most people.

>>51236530
The other True Magics are much simpler and faster to learn. They're all completely broken in assorted ways; the Second Magic can access thousands of different universes at once, can do insane things like summon thousands of alternate versions of yourself or allow you to acquire completely new powers, summon objects from other realities, and all kinds of other stuff. The Third Magic allows you to materialize and manipulate the soul and who the hell knows what it could do at very high levels. At very high levels I'd imagine that you could do things like go Third Impact on whole planets. The Fourth Magic allows you to destroy everything that the First can create, including aforementioned events and concepts. This is more than just destroying things, you could do things like completely undo the damage from a disaster or attack by snapping your fingers and destroying the event that caused it. The Fifth Magic is literal time travel and time manipulation taken to its logical extreme with all the bullshit that comes with that.

The First is the most versatile but also the hardest to learn by far. All of them specialize in different things and at high ends they're all ridiculously broken bullshit.

>>51236530
It is by far the hardest one to master and the others are similarly bullshit, for example the ability to destroy anything on a conceptual level or that one option from the Worm CYOA.

>>51236530
Because sometimes you just want to shunt an entire country into another dimension. Or time travel. Or destroy something without spending trillions of years doing nothing but training how to induce the concept of not existing anymore into something. Or whatever the Third does.

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>>51236530
Some people seem to forget that the jump was not made on the assumption that you've got eleventy bajillion learning boosters. It's made on the assumption this is your first jump. So using the First to do even the basic to mid level shit of any other Magic would take you tens or hundreds of thousands of years, far more if you wanted to get into the top tier stuff. The sort of timeframe where even a magus has long since turned to dust and the planet probably died and it turned into Notes or aliens attacked or something.

And of course, in the time it takes for anyone to do all those years of constant learning, you could have almost certainly found another way to make whatever it is you are after in a mere fraction of the time.

>>51236451
Mhm. About the one thing it can't do is directly make something stop existing, since it's completely opposed to it's nature.

>>51235886
It's under Ryuudo mountain. Big ass cavern.

>>51236596
>under the mountain
I had assumed that was the special territory thing Caster made. Ok, I guess I will try to purify it then. Don't suppose HSDW EX would include any cleansing spells if it's as high above Medea as Medea was her first master?

>>51236616
I doubt it'd be able to do it.

>>51236620
To the planning station!

Any anti-corruption/cleansing perks anyone knows would be great, thanks.

I'm taking the Polymorph spell from Samurai Jack which allows me to transform people into one (1) animal.

What's a good choice? The only thing that comes to me is kittens but it's boring.

>>51236530
>>51236581
The first magic is best taken with the generic xianxia jump. When you've finished cultivating to the peak you spend the next 300 billion years mastering the 1st. Hell, take the Gamer's Mind and Body and you can probably optimize it while learning.

>>51236639
Human.

>>51236596
>such as making the death of weak or simple life appear

It's written like that in the jump. Does that mean a first magic user wouldn't actually be able to do that?

>>51236683
There's a difference between death and making something stop existing entirely.

>>51236680
Ha. Mite b cool against non-human opponents actually..

>>51236690
Well, he talked about creating the concept of death for beings who normally wouldn't be able to die. Isn't that different from making them stop existing?

>>51236665
>When you've finished cultivating to the peak you spend the next 300 billion years mastering the 1st.
That is not enough time to come anywhere near either of those goals. Xianxia is endless training the genre and I think there are feats for the first magic that require trillions of years of practice.

>>51236708
That just means making them able to die. It's still not the same as erasing them from existence totally.

>>51236724
Yes, that's what he asked. If making them able to die was possible. I think you misunderstood the original question.

>>51236745
Her answer to that was yes anon. . .

>>51236745
And I said yes to that question. Did you miss the 'mhm'? The rest of it was me explaining about the one thing it couldn't do.

>Strong Spark + True Magic
Good idea or Best Idea?

>>51236760
>mhm
I thought that was just a lascivious moan.

>>51236757
>>51236760
Ayy, looks like I'm the Idiot here. I thought the "mhm" was just you considering it, and then shooting it down. Sorry.

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>>51236772
Nah, I got that all out earlier.

>>51236774
No harm done.

>>51236768
Reality is not for raping

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>>51236781
>I got that all out earlier

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>>51236798

>>51236798
If reality didn't want to be raped she wouldn't let rape exist. Clearly she's just been waiting for you to figure out how to have your way with her.

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>>51236798
wait what
have i been doing this wrong

>>51236722
Fine. Stay for trillions of years, then, but by the time you can use you own ki to create and destroy universes I think that you should move on to training the 1st magic. After that point, you're only really improving for the sake of it.

>>51236798
>tfw I use Dragonbreak not for its intended purpose, but as a reality-raping "fuck everything" technique
Are you telling me that's wrong?

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>>51236632
ActRaiser has some fairly decent purification abilities, a Herald from SMT can radiate miles of cleansing light with the Almighty property (i.e. it penetrates supernatural defences) and the Glory Everlasting spell from Age of Ice would probably do it considering it kills all demons on the map.

>>51236422
I gotta wonder how it holds up in settings where things that don't necessarily exist in the conventional sense can still affect the part of the setting that exists. I recall Mardukth said the Artful Temple would let you get around that to an extent, though.

>>51236781
Hi Val, I was >>51231705; the other EX NP I was talking about was the UbirdW we hashed out a few threads ago as (one of) Elodie's Noble Phantasm(s).

I think we settled on it around the conversation starting from...here: http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/51084723/#51088841

The second NP was the barrier one I think I talked to you about earlier in thread; I haven't fully fleshed out the details it will probably end up being another glorified fancy light show anyway but conceptually it's a lot less complex than the first: It provides an EX-level defence, comparable in strength to Avalon, solely to the Servant.

Anyway, my idea would be that when the first EX NP is broken in a manner that supplements the second EX NP, it changes function by losing the defensive value but instead creating a grand workshop-temple. In this state, the first NP would be similarly depleted as if it had used its' fully charged attack and the second NP would lose its' function of defense to produce the new phenomena.

The aesthetics and exact armaments would vary, but I'm thinking of Semiramis' hanging gardens; it would be conceptually very similar to the first EX NP I thought up for Elodie's Servant build. Like it, being a genuine article crystalised from not one but two of her legends, I'd assume it'd give some more abstract conceptual advantage too.

Would this be feasible?

>>51236904
>not training inside of your Warehouse with time acceleration powers/items until the heat death of the universe
>not achieving the equivalent of tens of millions of universes' worth of nonstop training in the First Magic
I bet you losers can't even make a cup of tea.

>>51237156
>Xianxia world
>Not fighting people while you train
I, your father, am amazed you managed to last this long, Jumper. Should we meet I will cull 9 generations of your family for your attempts to make me lose face.
Do you even xianxia, bro?

Exact Words Free
Keep it Cool Free
Magical Magpie 100
More Powerful Than Hope 200
... and Deeper Than Despair 300

+1000 MP
Power Has a Cost 400 CP to 400 MP
Weapon Free
-Halberd
Black Wings 100 MP
Dimensional Inventory 200 MP
Rewind 300 MP
Stop Time 400 MP
Enhanced Strength 200 MP
Enhanced Dexterity 200 MP

+300 For Items Only
School Papers Free
Stolen From the Yakuza 100
Strange Apartment 200

It's Okay to Smile 100
Don't Forget 200
-Homura Akemi
What Rebellion +0
But That's Forbidden Love! +100
You Little Bastard +200

Madoka 2
The new comedy from Gen Urobuchi.
One of them's a broken little girl who went through hell for the one she loved only to be separated from her by the cruel hands of fate. The others some rando on the internet who liked anime more then is healthy.
Together they try to protect the smile of the one person who doesn't know how the last show ended. Because meguca shouldn't cry.

Watch as they cry over the corpses of their allies, see the only thing keeping their spirits together being the promise that they will have another wish, and have fun for the whole family as they struggle against the seeming inevitability of death in this decade long slog of misery and despair.

Starring
Homura as Depressed Warrior Carrying the Memories of Her Endless Failures
Hameru as Someone Repeating the Mistakes of Homura Even Though They Should Know Better
Not Madoka as Someone Who Really Needs a Fucking Hug by the End

Madoka 2: It's Despair For the Whole Family

>>51232141
Is Vanity's Reward straight shapeshifting, or is it just changing the "theme" of your magical girl form?

Also, I want to game Cake~! by using it to summon delicious food with negative supernatural effects, then eating the copies that lack said effects.

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>>51237239
Where's this land on the good ole sufferometer?

>>51237209
Ha! Find me an opponent that can counter my Godly Fist Shaping All Creation and I'll fight them as much as you want!
It's not on the drive yet, I think?

>>51234468
>the Teen Titan comics are just all around horrible
I don't think there is a comics series that's been so consistently awful for so long. There's never been anything redeemable about the Teen Titans comics.

>>51237316
>Godly Fist Shaping All Creation
Pfft. I could defend against that easily with my Divine Ao Worldly Reflection technique. You could probably not last a second against my family's bloodline Black Hole disintegration fist technique that is unrivalled under the heavens.
I don't think so but here's a copy from an earlier thread.
https://is.4chan.org/tg/1484117878961.pdf

>>51237096
No, those are entirely different effects from what the others are doing, so it's not going to be feasible to have it as a third add on. If the first thing was actually related to crafting in some way it might be okay but that UBW knockoff had a very set ability, summoning a certain sort of sword, not creating new ones or a large variation like the original UBW. I'm not even sure how you're breaking it given it's an ability, not an item or something with a charge.

My original answer was thinking that this would be a third use relating to the former two and that the crafting NP you referred to was some sort of crafting forge, not an ability as that UBW is, not an entirely separate EX level Noble Phantasm. That's something you'll need to buy separately.

>>51233841
You have to admit, it's pretty depressing to be losing another jumpmaker.

If I had to guess, he's leaving us because nobody was paying attention to his jump through all the mindless Fateposting.

>>51234917
25 from a spell in the Creation/Spirit/Necromancy schools.

30 or 35 from a magic sword.

40 from Megan Thyroid or whatever that city is called.

You can also get a spell that lets you temporarily go 40 in dream realms.

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>>51237239
>>51237287
Looks like 40% with a chance of 85%, depending on just how badly Coobs screws the pooch. Pretty sure you gotta go full Urobutcher to hit 100% unless you, I dunno, convince Coobs that the Warp is a clean, renewable source of prepetual energy or something.

also fffff forgot about item stipend >>51235214

Hair Ribbon (200)
Pile of Stuffed Animals (0)

...

...I'm not gonna lie: I've never been fond of sweets.>>51237357

>>51234468
Oh geeze. Speaking of the exact opposite-I remember reading about comics!Starfire, and thinking I couldn't believe this was the same character as the TV show's.

>>51237393
Ah, understood thanks. Consider the idea nixed for now. Slight clarification though: When I said I wanted to differentiate it from Avalon, it was because it ended up reminding me a lot of it. It would be a smallish artifact that can be implanted in someone to do its' thing. Elodie's Lumen crystal, to be specific.

Hmm, not sure if I'll go with a third thing at all. All the answers to (absolute defence NP)+(barrage familiar NP that can output a massive attack) seem silly to me at the moment.

I have a question for Heavens (or any anon that's familair with Madoka).
Is the 600 CP drawback 'Welcome To My World' basically the Rebellion Movie? It's been a while since I've watched Madoka, and i'm a little confused.

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What jumps give the best familiars?

Also, what does a familiar actually DO?

>>51237370
You fool! Nothing can defeat the Godly Fist style's mighty techniques, including the invincible Heavenly Diamond-Piercing Fist, a technique refined over the course of a hundred generations! It could tear space-time itself asunder with its supreme power!
Thanks, I forgot to save it when it was posted.

>>51237475
>I remember reading about comics!Starfire, and thinking I couldn't believe this was the same character as the TV show's.
Funny enough, there are some people on /co/ who like to act all big and better than you for LIKING comics Starfire just because she's the original. As if a gigaslut who doesn't do anything but wreck homes and cheat on everybody is a worthwhile character. She's got zero nuance to her.

>>51237475
>dont forget item stipend
Pretty sure i didn't

>>51237496
I'm not familiar with any.

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>>51236530
>>51236495
>Fourth Magic
I have seen thematic chains centered around Evil, Order, Justice... But has anyone tried to become Nothingness?

>>51237590
No. Anyone who did it right wouldn't exist anymore, and thus we wouldn't know about them.

>>51237496
Servants are actually a kind of familiar in Fate/. Anima also has Sheele, which are little magical beings made from a small piece of your soul that will do magic for you if you don't have the Gift.

>>51237590
We'll there's the entire Nobody perk and ability line in Kingdom Hearts, that's pretty good at being nothing. To the point of being resistant to being erased because, what is there to erase?

>>51237496
depending on how loose your definition is Infernals Has the circle demons which are about as powerful as you are.

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>>51237494
From what I read of it, you're in the end of the Rebellion movie where Homura has won and imprisoned all the other megucas. Her reality rewrite caught you too, and you're as imprisoned as Madoka is

>>51237524
Meant myself, sorry

>>51237496
Dresden Files, and Exalted: Infernals although they're basiaclly henchminions. I'd say Magi and Mage: The Awakening potentially, since they're either genies or like genies. Which aren't tortured just by existing in an Earthlike universe, like the Bartimaeus ones.

Also it depends on the setting but they generally assist with magic or share in your powers for misc. assistance.

>>51237522
I have no strong opinion about the slut thing, although what little I remember was very disappointed by how little of her character there was compared to show!Starfire. I mean, IIRC she got imprisoned and tortured for a while. There's being tough enough to overcome that shit, and then there's it not even registering on your plans for the future.

Show!Starfire actually seemed like a person rather than a vague caricature of fanserviced redheads. I don't even remember enough about comic!Starfire to cite reasons to hate her beyond not being interesting enough to remember.

>>51237590
I did! I became a Page of Void in Sburb. I use it along with Salt's Blessing and Virtue powers to integrate concepts I like into myself.

And I took A+++ Mystic Eyes of Nothingness in Fate/Extra, although nasu!Nothingness isn't normal nothingness. It's demons.The Eyes of Imaginary Numbers are closer.

Later I picked Oramus Charms, perks and the Artful Temple to be what I am not. Among other things, my Exaltation forge is bounded by several Horcrux-like pseudo-Poles I built by dipping bits of my soul into the Shinma.

Also, like >>51237659 I'm a Nobody. A very, very bright Nobody.

It's less trying to become Nothingness and more trying to create portions of myself that don't exist, though. I exist too hard to be Nothing at this point.

>>51237590
Scope men from coco's bizarre adventure can will themselves in and out of existence Fast enough and Reliably enough to use it as a combat Technique

>>51237736
You can't be Evil and Nothing at the same time!

Nobody can do that!

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>>51237776
>Nobody can do that
>Nobody

EXACTLY!

I mean, the parts of me which exists are partly powered by a feedback loop that takes in evil, burns it to smelt law and forges that into perfection with the fires of my soul

I'm already a living contradiction.

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>>51237590
It isn't my main stick, but it's a strong secondary theme. I mean, there is No end to the possibilities.

Specially if you go by a memetic effect like >>51237839 says. Something like Nobody No-One from Dr. Who.


>>51237736
>Page of Void
>Not Heir/Page/Witch of Void

Do you even Nothingness?

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If you're still around, Myrmidont, does the Muse import for Eclipse Phase provide any sort of cover to help them get through customs with you? Or is it still obvious to Egocasting staff that they're dealing with something nonstandard?

We're expecting to be accused of being a Fetch, if not a full-on T.I.T.A.N., at some point during our stay. I'm just wondering how soon that'll happen.

>>51237917
Kumagawa really has the best power. I understand why we can't buy it, but it's still a shame. The Fourth Magic is a good approximation, but still not as good as the original.

>>51238014
You can still replicate it with enough study if you buy the Flask Plan Data.

>>51238051
Nope, it only does Abnormalities not Minus powers. Unless you mean fanwanking an Abnormality strong enough to emulate it.

>>51238244
The End is an Abnormality. Which can replicate All Fiction.

And All Fiction wasn't exactly a Minus, Kumagawa's minus was Bookmaker. Hanten's Skill Creation was also the result of a Flask Plan, so there is also that.

But honestly, between the Flask Plan and X-Genes, there is very little you can't do.

I'm unfamiliar with the Wuxia Jump. Of the seven settings (Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Romance of the Three Kingdoms, The Swordsman, Forbidden Kingdom, The works of Jin Yong, Hero and Zu Warriors from the Magic Mountain), which would be a good starting point to get into this genre?

>>51238745
>Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
that's the best movie of the bunch IIRC

>>51238745
They all sound like generic Wuxia desu, which means people running around beating each other up with various weapons or their fists, and a dash of muh honor. Just chose one with a name you like.

>>51238745
Hero is pretty easy to survive as long as you don't pick a fight with the emperor and don't have a massive boner for calligraphy.

>>51238792
>>51238919
Are any of them novels?
>>51238806
But anon, I like all of them

>>51239021
Romance of the Three Kingdoms is, at very least.

Would Xianxia protagonist speed up how fast a Sacrificial Bestowment power merged with someone?

>>51239021
Romance of the Three Kingdoms is one of the defining works of Chinese literature.
It's also got film, tv-show, and game adaptions if you don't feel like reading.

>>51236768
That seems like it would probably limit your True Magic more than help it. Sparks seem to have a neurotic compulsion to technobabble to explain stupid bullshit, and then their Spark makes it so, at least for them, their stupid theories are correct.
So you may be weakening the "it juss werks" effect of the Magic.

>>51232660
Smoke conduit in infamous makes smoking good for you.

>>51234251
I was thinking TT raven, actually.

If the moons layer is awake, would a shield that somehow turned into a claw hand be a good trick weapon?

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>>51238014
Not him, but I'd argue an abnormality is no different from a minus, considering you are only considered a minus if your abnormality warps your psyche too hard negatively.

Emukae had a power which was essentially entropy, and it fucked her up, making her a minus, but she was able to not be crazy by the end of the story through friendship, and essentially became just an "abnormal".

>>51239495
Oh shit, this was meant for>>51238244

Found this on SB, thought it was interesting.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aVvh-a_bGdc_euwLxRw3JxFY7MFTlSLWrw4f_hNaLaQ/htmlview

>>51239652
The sheer autism...it makes my heart ache to see such lost, lonely souls.

>>51239716
Isn't that just the pot calling the kettle black

>>51239802
It's more like the normally black pot calling the vantablack kettle black. Different shades of black.

>>51239652
This is pretty sad Blade. Can't you even put your name on when you shitpost?

>>51240178
It's not even Blade's tho.

>>51240189
Is it yours?

>>51240296
>accusing me if being an SB-er
Wow, anon. I thought we were friends.

But I don't know the OP's SB-level.

>>51240344
Given that the last few comments in the previous thread were about fuck huge ships with entire civilizations inside it, I thought it fit.

Also, for your first waifu, how many jumps should you wait before genderbending yourself?

What perks would let me actually run the world effectively after I take it over?

Now that I'm thinking about the "create anything" aspect of the First Magic again, how hard do you think would creating knowledge be, especially stuff that you don't know/doesn't exist yet? I'm gonna assume that it scales with the knowledge's importance and usefulness, but how long would it take me on the higher ends?

>>51240416
Just stack intimidation perks.

>>51240416
Mayor for Life from animal crossing, & all the micromanagement perks you feel the need for.

>>51240450
It's come up before and been said to be one of the hardest things to make. Given some of the top end examples go into the trillions of years, maybe you should just find some precog.

>>51240450
Impossible, you have to know what your creating is to make it.

>>51240416
War Council from dragon age inquisition and other similar perks that attract loyal and/or powerful followers would help with enforcing your rule.

>>51240389
we didn't do that until like 50 jumps in but that was largely because she wasn't really into women and I wasn't really into being a woman

>>51240416
>Ruling the world
Why though? That sounds like so much work.

>>51240557
How fast is Trigon?

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Do you think being able to talk to animals would turn someone into a vegetarian?

Alternatively, would it make people want to eat animals more if they could talk to them?

>>51240593
Regardless, meat is murder.

>>51240607
What if it's vat-grown?

>>51240578
I don't know, he doesn't exactly race people. He can probably make himself pretty much however fast with magic, but that's not really his style.

>>51240607
I'd eat people, too if I could buy human nuggets at McDonald's.

I just started a new chain and I could really use some ideas for early chain jumps to take. Like, early to the point where I'm just barely above normal human capabilities.

For some weird reason, in every chain I make, the first 2 or so jumps after Pokemon trainer are always the hardest for me to pick.

>>51240607
What if it's from an Item that gives you infinite meat?

>>51240641
Where do you think Jumpchan gets the meat?

>>51240593
I think it would depend on what the animals have to say.
>>51240607
Delicious delicious murder.

>>51240593
Depends on how good the animals are for conversation. If they're all assholes with nothing interesting to say, I'd imagine eating them just to make them shut up would be appealing.

>>51240634
Creepypasta can give you some really useful starting abilities and is pretty safe if you don't take any drawbacks, NGNL is really safe and has really good mental stuff, Jojo gives you a chance to make a custom ability right off the bat which is pretty nice, also Overlord gives you really good survivability.

>>51240629

You got bad taste dude. Humans taste like ass by default and need to be breed/raised for it. I've heard reports of it basically being like D-Grade Pork.

>>51240634

I like Nightmare Before Christmas a bunch for early chain since it's nice and safe. Kenichi is great for helping a weak person become a strong person, especially with the right mentor. Monsters Inc is nice, Banjo & Kazooie is nice, Psychonauts is nice. Adventure Time and Persona are cool if you're fine with variable levels of danger.

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>>51240634
Why not try The Road to El Dorado and Slime Rancher? They're both fun and don't require a lot of extras to have a good time there.

>>51240593
Just think about it like the cow from the restaurant at the end of the world, animals exist to be eaten, so they should be happy and helpful. And if they are not, well, a jumper should have enough charisma perks to make that train of thought a reality.

>>51240652
Elemental plane of meat, obviously. It doesn't count if it came from a porkchop golem or a gravy elemental.

>>51240607
Humans are omnivores and evolved as scavengers. Some people also just can't plain afford the vegan/vegetarian lifestyle or can't even digest all the fancy expensive stuff.

>>51240634
Here's 25 of the safest settings on my chain.
Aria
CATastrophe
Dodgeball
Girls und Panzer
Katawa Shoujo
Monster Musume
Musician
Spice & Wolf
Breaking Bad
Cowboy Bebop
Demolition Man
Generic Western
J.C Avatar
Chronicles of Narnia
Farscape
FLCL
Redwall
The Road to El Dorado
Death Note
Macross
Pokemon (Trainer, Dungeon, Conquest)
Firefly
Mononokehime
Mount & Blade
The Princess Bride

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Build time? Build Time!

Inheritance Cycle Jump 063:
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
Angela’s Attention [+100]
Ra'zac Hunt [+200]
Shade’s Target [+300]
Location: Ellesmera
Race: Human
Origin: Drop-In
Perks:
Expert Trader [Free]
Mental Shields (& Swords) [-100]
Protected Name [-200]
Magic [-300]
Hunter [Free]
Hero Killer [-300]
Intentional Magic [-600]
Gear:
An Ancient Language Dictionary [Free]
Halberd [Free]

Inheritance Cycle Jump Writing: http://pastebin.com/mPm27vtB

>>51240593
No, I don't think so. The way talking to animals works, is that at a base level it shouldn't make the animal smarter. Talking to a cow will get you something like "Sun warm grass good." and not an actual conversation. They're not sapient just because you can basically read their body language and feelings accurately.

>>51240796
>Monster Musume
I can almost hear the REEEEE already.

>>51240593
You know the birds singing? You know what they're all saying?
FUCK ME FUCK ME FUCK ME!
You know what the crickets are saying with their chirps?
I'M OVER HERE, COME FUCK ME!
Now imagine hearing that for the rest of your life.
Never take any talking to animals perks. Not worth it.

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>>51240819
Deux Ex Jumpchain Jump 064a:
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
Maintenance Man Conspiracy [+100]
Pacifist [+300]
Location: New York
Origin: UNATCO Agent [-200]
Perks:
Aggressive Defense Drone [Free]
Regeneration [-150]
Cloak [-300]
Hacking Interface [-600]
Gear:
Tranquilizer Gun [-150]
Riot Prod [Free]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Deus Ex Human Revolution Jump 064b:
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
The New Black and Gold [+100]
Pacifist [+200]
Humanity First [+200]
Origin: Drop-In
Perks:
You Don’t Fix a Firewall [-200]
Augmentation R&D [-200]
Give Me Deus Ex [-400]
Ghost [-300]
Augmentation [+100]:
Infolink Telecommunications Package [-50]
Icarus Landing System [-50]
Gear:
Body Armor [Free]
Floral Peacoat [Free]
Sunglasses [Free]
Weapon (LS-66 Sabre Direct Energy Rifle) [Free]
Apartment [Free]
Kubrick [-50]
Royal Hellhound Cigarettes [-50]
Well-appointed Apartment [-100]

Reward: The D Project

This place was nice, and now all of the various cybernetics I have from my time as various types of Riders, only two or three use cybernetics to my memory, are all nano-augs... what does that even mean? I mean it sounds badass but I know next to nothing about this setting other than a vague memory of a let's play and the original game. Can someone give me a brief on this.

So would I be able to spam swords Dio-style on him?

Bodymod - So, this lets me design my “base” body for future “jumps"? Alright then, that's nifty.

Gender: Female
Build: Medium (Free)
Body Type: Charmer (500) So, with the benefits of this and Mythical Visage, I should be able to charm just about anyone.

-Stats-
Appeal 2 (Free)
Shape 2 (Free)
Strength 2 (400)
Endurance 1 (350)
Dexterity 3 (200)
Speed 1 (100)

-Perks-
Metavore (0) - Maintaining my appearance is easy enough, but the same can't be said for my figure. This should help with that.
Endowed 3 (Free) - More vanity boosting, because that's exactly what I need with my head-guest.

>G: Yet another accusation mongrel? Perhaps you should come with material.

Yes, sorry my king, your jester will do her best to come up with new jokes!

>G: See that you do.

...It's like talking to a fucking brick wall. Onto the next thing!

>>51240871
I just needed another pretty safe world, honest!
I'm actually debating replacing it with something else. Suggestions appreciated.

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>>51240593
It all depends very much on both the person and the animal, doesn't it?
My Jumper is a Runner, so he already talks to one of the animals he eats: people. Not like being able to carry on a conversation with a chicken is gonna put him off his meal, though he could probably do better.
He's willingly to devour people he thinks are evil, so he doesn't really have any reservations on eating things that aren't even really sapient.

On a side note >>51240896 has a point. It'd just be really annoying.
I'd be more than just FUCK ME!, though.
It'd also be I'M THE MEANEST SUNOVABITCH ON THE PLANET, COME AT ME BRO! I'LL BREAK MY TALON OFF IN YOUR CLOACA!

Warehouse (150) - So, I get another extra-dimensional storage place? And this one is bigger than the fucking Gate!

>G: Bah. The Gate is far better. Unlike this pale imitation, it is capable of storing living beings, it does not require a key nor a door, you can summon anything inside to your hand at will -

Ok, ok, whatever!

-Utilities-
ForceWall (130) - Could come in useful for those times I'm not there to guard an entrance.
Local Net (100) - Unhackable connection to the internet? Oh yes please.
Shelving (Free) - Can't just shove shit in here willy nilly. Hmm... Hey Gil, how did you organize the original Gate?

>G: It was not. Since my first meeting with Enkidu where I used my treasures, it had been in a state of disorder. Even before then, the amount of treasures inside were so vast that the clerics I tasked with helping sort it were unable to despite working day and night.

Huh. Well then, just shows I should stay on top of this.

Terminal (90) - To further help with organization and what's where.
Portal (60) - Oh yes, way better than having to physically insert a key into the nearest door! Combined with that earlier rule, and provided I could come up a proficient enough spell, I could have quite the bullshit little manuever to use.
Link (30) - And with this, I have teleportation between any two points I wish! That wasn't one of the abilites the orignial Gate had, was it, Gil?

>G: ...

...Uh, alright then. Back to turning this place into a storage facility/fortress/teleportation station.

Food Supply (20) - Provided I carefully ration this, I could have enough food to outlast a small siege if I need to.
Electricity (10) - To make sure anything I hook up in here in the future is supplied with power. Anything to say about that G? Something like how the Gate never needed electricity?

>G: ...

Hm...

Loft (0) - Allows me more room for stuff if I need it.

Are there any perks that ensure the people I banded together under me continue to cooperate with each other when I'm gone? Don't want to spend my post-spark life babysitting a bunch of grown adults

>>51240986
>>51241062
are you doing this before your first jump? just curious

>>51240896
This is absolutely true, at least in the spring. Also, weather reports. So many weather reports. It's basically like https://youtu.be/-TcLxlkc2pA every time you stop to listen to the birds.

Birds are boring.

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>>51241015
Just replace it with Slice of Life and buy the Monster Girls option. It's pretty much the same thing without having to dip into forbidden Jumps.

>>51241064
Just stack intimidation perks.

>>51241107
I don't believe in ruling people through intimidation.

>>51240389
>not becoming the little girl immediately
I see CYOAG is needed here.

>>51241128
What are you, some kind of pansy?

>>51241102
>forbidden Jumps
You make it sound like black magic, or the dark side of the force, or Lovecraftian lore.
"Thou shalt not jump to Corruption of Champions."
"But why Gandalf?"
"BECAUSE IT WOULD DOOM US ALL, YOU FOOL!"

>>51241091
Uh, no?

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/51200827/#q51201864

>>51241064
Temperance of Thousands from Dota 2, maybe? It won't enforce anything by itself, but people should at least be more willing to not be dicks when you aren't around.