Warhammer 40,000 general

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Why.

>>51210628
What did I miss?

Third for Cypher has a damning dossier on what Emps did with two Romanian prostitutes and is bringing it to Terra.

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>>51210702
He wrote the rules for WoM.

He made Rubrics even worse.

On an unrelated note, what will you be voting for Model of the Year?

I'm going for the crates, just in an effort to get GW to make more overpriced terrain that looks cool.

>>51210722
Golden showers on the Golden Throne?

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Game/army pics? Show me your dudes /tg/!!!

Also if I wanted to convert some Fantasy models into Rough Riders for my Guardsmen what would be the best kits to use?

>>51210751

>June's best model
>a fucking box

I would vote for the box

So I'm mainly interested in the lore of 40k, but I've lost track of it lately.

I know about the Fall of Cadia, but I also heard that Space Wolves got fucked up before that?

Could some kind soul tell me where I can read about all this? Which books etc?

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Reposting from the grave of the last thread.

Skitarii Anon from earlier. So I planned on running small squads of Rangers with Arc Rifles, but now that I've found out Hoplites, I'm very convinced to add those, probably in an 'as well' sort of fashion. But maybe that's too much Haywire. I'd be shit against a horde army.

Peltasts seem REALLY good, like stupidly good. Wipe out a unit or two before they get annihilated because the other player focuses fire on them, good.

In that vein, are they broken? Obviously Hoplites aren't too shabby defensively, but otherwise they're kinda in the same place as Vanguard. Peltasts seem just...better than every other Skitarii.

Will I end up being 'That Guy' if I use them at all? What about Hoplites, would the consensus be 'they're okay to use'? The Spear/Shields look so damn cool and honestly should have been in the codex from the start.

Also, why do the Peltast guns look so...shitty? There's a distinct lack of detail there.

>>51210773
Same. I just want to get a retardedly huge amount and use them to make terrain or even a ZM board.

Would it be heresy if I painted my deathwatch Crimson Fists captain's power fist red instead of the bare metal silver the deathwatch normally have? I just don't want to piss off any machine spirt or ornery watch master

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>>51210764
I finished these two last night. Ethereal was 4 hours from primed black to that, and the Venom was 75% done at the start of the night.

>>51210751
>>51210773
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsNIFD7TxwU

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All these recent releases have gotten me back into the game. I've play three games in the last month (which is quite a bit for me) one with my CSM and two with my IG/IH Imperial troops. Think I'm going to have to chose a main army as I get more models. Does anyone know how Iron Hands play at 1500-1850pts?

>>51210785
I don't play against Skitarii, but I play against them weekly.
Peltasts are scary good. The only, ONLY thing they can't handle is any vehicle bulkier than a Dread, but that's okay, because literally the rest of your army can do that. My meta is pretty casual but the Skitarii player has started using them, and whenever they show up (he just brings a squad of 10 with omnispex) they wreck face.

Obviously your meta may vary but if you are going to take them, take one squad and see how they do.

>Also, why do the Peltast guns look so...shitty? There's a distinct lack of detail there.
Seconding this. Last year's May Open Day when they were first revealed, it was joked about that their guns looked like Super Soakers... Little did we know the obscene power they'd come to have.

>>51210751
Box and Truck are the best one.

Not even joking.

>>51210798
>Would it be heresy

No, the Crimson Fist could be a particularly insolent individual that has no respect for the machine spirit or his superiors, kept only because he is useful to the Kill Team and maybe sent to the Deathwatch not as an Ork expert but just to get rid of him.

Do it, add some character to your minis.

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>>51210773
It's a nice box.

>>51210799
Pretty great. How did you get the red pattern on the Venom's hull to come out so smooth? I'm shit at painting and would love to learn to do that pls no bully

SO SISTERS AND BLACK TEMPLAR ARE BOTH BEING BROUGHT BACK FROM THE GRAVE, YES?!

CAN I FINALLY GET INTO THIS?!

>>51210850
Yeah that seems to be my thoughts as well. Taking a ton of them would be sort of abusive, even to FW standards of broken

And I was actually thinking of converting my own guns? Or is that like extra heresy. They just don't look good, really.

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>>51210877

>>51210894
FUCK

>>51210870
Best damn box to be made in 40,000 years. No one else has made a box quite as nice.

>>51210874
Multiple.
Thin.
Layers.

Seriously. But the main recipe was 2 thin Khorne red undercoats and 2-3 coats of Evil Sunz Scarlet. The orange is Fire Dragon Bright.
I love my Windsor Newton brush so much, too. I used it for everything on the minis except for drybrushing.

>>51210798
No. It could also be one gifted to DW by the chapter few centuries past so he takes pride in using it.

>>51210922
Also, don't try to do the design all in one go. I improvised the design as I went. So I painted in little strokes.

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Hey guys I think a new rules drop is coming really soon.
Something is definitely happening if they aren't producing a codex anymore

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Thoughts on the attached list? Thinking of using it for our league that is coming up.

>>51210751
Goliath Rockgrinder.

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I just realized that I probably should have left the backpacks with swords off of my dudes before building/painting them. The lower back will be impossible to paint now.

Oh well! These are my first guys, it's a good thing I learned before making more than 6 dudes so far.

>>51210953
Switching to softback

>>51210984
Why is that good?
It's marginally cheaper but I much prefer hardbacks to be honest.

Thank god, I thought orks were gonna be the test guineapigs for next edition as well

>>51210915
Beep bop. The Omnissiah be praised.

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>>51210764
>Also if I wanted to convert some Fantasy models into Rough Riders for my Guardsmen what would be the best kits to use?

Depends on the aesthetic you are aiming for with them, though I recommend some of the Lord Of The Ring GW stuff.

I'm confused /tg/. How do Deathwatch's mixed Kill Teams work?

>>51210764
hm matters what kinda of look you want for the rough riders. I personally would use some Wild riders but free guild pistoliers also would work.

>>51211035
...carefully?

>>51210879
As long as you don't spam them so long as your opponent isn't taking the cheese or attach a Dominus to every unit for a rerollable 2+ save, you should be okay.

>converting my own guns
As long as they won't be mistaken for Rangers or Vanguard, you'll be good. It's not like Skitarii have too many different troop options for people to remember. Though, the Peltasts' guns are the only weak part of their kit imo. The helmets and pauldrons are legit.

>>51211003
Nah orks aren't the next editions guinea pigs is going to be SoB or Nids led by cruddace on both teams

>>51210751
Looks like Fantasy wins 2016.

>>51210954
I want to give you shit for the Wraithknight, but really the rest of the list is so reasonable that I really don't think it'll be too bad. Good list!

>Via Sanguinius Reddit:

>"Vect is involved with the new 'Eldar Triumvirate'

>Iyanna Arienal is HIGHLY LIKELY to be the Eldar model with the Gyrinx offsider, aka an Iyanden Spiritseer.

>Roboute still is on track to 'waking up first'...noting below, I would posit that Lion'el will be awoken soon after.

>A later book (aka sooner rather than later) will be called 'The Hunt', focusing on the Dark Angels chasing Cypher on a spiral towards Terra. I have been told that Cypher WILL reach Terra with the Lion Sword. PERSONAL SPECUALTION: I think Cypher will 'kill' the Emperor in order to instigate his Perpetual Powers and bring in a new age.

>Additional: I have heard loose rumours that 'a loyalist Primarch will turn, and a Chaos Primarch will turn Loyalist.' I have heard nothing more in this regard....but please be Alpha Legion....please be Alpha Legion. (EDIT: I have heard nothing solid on this! It seems to be intertronz conjecture)

>Sanguinius out!"

My money that the Primarchs that switch sides will be Alpharius and the Lion.

>>51211088

Yeah I mean I know I play Eldar so ultimately there is going to be shit people are unhappy with but I tried to avoid the overly standard stuff and at least take some interesting options. My store is moderately competitive though so I'm not gonna completely skip out on WKs and Bikes.

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>>51210799
>painted Tau
What sorcery is this!?

>>51211054
I mean the mixed model types. How does that mess with?

>>51211104
Is this "Sanguinius" reliable source?

>>51210785
>>51210850
>>51210879

Consider that these are "Experimental Rules," so for a future book release, FW might tone down their power a tad. As it stands, they're damned good, but I play Kill Team with just five of them along with Vanguard, so I've not got the math of blobs of 20 of them.

>>51211104
How can Alpharius become loyalist? he always was a loyalist

So now that FoC is out, what is the consensus on the members of the Triumvirate? Who is the most broken?
Is it fair they can have Cawl/Celestine if I bring some Termies or a Land Raider?

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So what would most players probably say to seeing a fully painted up, Ork looted version of this?

>>51210628
wears space wolf shirt when talking about Thousand Sons rules... clearly hates thousand sons

>>51211109

>>51211123
Yup.

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>>51211104
>Loyalist Alpharius falls to chaos
>Rebellious Omegon forsakes it
>Everyone else stands around shrugging and looking confused

>>51211140
> "Is it bs2?"

I'm looking to add a Fortification to my Space Marine force, but I'm not sure how well that would work out fluff-wise for a chapter to just happen to fin the same bunker wherever they land.

Would it be possible to convert a drop-pod into a fort for them to use, fluffing it as something they drop in before a battle to fortify wherever they need? Is there any justification for that in existing fluff?

>>51211118
-Majority toughness
-Keep coherency, so fast shit like bikes need to keep near the footsloggers

Not that hard really.

>>51211140
>the Ork part is nicely painted
>the Tau part is bare resin
I kek'd

>>51211140
>"why does it look so bad"

>>51211104
Leman Ruus goes to Khorne with his stupid legion and Iron Warriors come loyal

>>51211010
Scales too small. I've also heard you cannot use their models in their other franchises due to the licensing if I'm not mistaken.

Shame as I once really liked the idea of making a Tallarn army from the Haradrim range, riders included.

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>>51210764
My Imperial Fist devastator stood firm and rolled double ones for morale, forcing the enemy to kill him for the point! My stormtalons kicked butt against the Tyranids today.

>>51211104
>Not Khan and Lorgar

>>51211123
Ehhhhhhhhh?

No idea really. We'll

>>51211156
Keep Scouts or Devastators in it. They were the ones who were the bait for the enemy army, who fled back to the bunker to let the fight take place in the kill-zone the Marines prepared. It's what I do with my Imperial Fists successor.

>>51211169

>Cannot use their models in other franchises

How would they even enforce this? The only thing that they could even remotely do is refuse to picture mixed models in their official publications. They can't come to your house and stop you from using LoTR models in 40k.

>>51211173
i thought its a meme about 9/11. This preview confuse

>>51210751
So how do we make the Box the best model.

Honestly it is the best thing they release.

Xbox huge models should be a FW thing,

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>>51211173
>those containers
>not best model of 2016

>>51211140
But to loot it Orks need to get within 500 feet of it without getting blasted to shit

>>51211132
And the Lion was a traitor. Your point?

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>>51211104
>'a loyalist Primarch will turn, and a Chaos Primarch will turn Loyalist.

This is one of the most horrible things that could ever happen

>>51211143

Duncan did that before. He was painting WB or something and wore an Ultramarine shirt.

>>51211010
The size won't fit i think. LotR tt doesn't go full geroic scale and are smaller than guardsman.

>>51211161
Maybe I'm just weird but the units look weird as fuck mixed like that.

>Let me walk my motorcycle since you're walking

>>51211217
No the most horrible thing is Age of the Emperor. This is just what should happen as a lot of the factions seem to be tainted by chaos specifically the Blood Angels and Space wolves. Now the chaos one turning makes less sense.

>>51211165
>>51211166

Maybe the Big Mek's paint pots were stolen by some thieving, blue-fingered Grots?

>>51211168
A loyalist DP?

>>51210784

Please respond

>>51211246
What would those grots be doing wiff it 'uh? Dey dont paint nuffin

>>51211252
You talking about Celestine?

>>51211177
>Lirgar writes a book called "I was fucking right" and gets the Ministorum to publish it.

>>51211233
agreed, it's far from elegant.

Jump pack guys and bikes together are fun though

I get that Changeling is getting a new model since the old one looks like shit, but the new Curseling looks exactly the same. What gives?

>>51211258
Magnus and 1k sons attack Fenris, a lot of furries get killed, Grimnar wound Magnus thanks to his khornate axe, inquisition start's purging poeple from fenris, magnus get rekt and he pulled his planet frmo immaterium.

>>51211258

I think it's called Curse of the Wulfen or Warzone Fenris or something like that. Basically the Imperium finds out about the Wulfen and the GK and DA attack and bomb Fenris, partially because Tzeentch tricked the DA too. But eventually they all make up and Wulfen are tolerated for the time being.

>>51211169
Well if you play against or with space marines you get true scale between them. I made my plague zombies out of the goblins from the hobbit starter box for example.

>>51211271
Nah, Perty!

>>51211217
>Dark Angels are traitors
>Alpha Legion is loyal
nothing we haven't known forever.

Strange, no FoC in OP's link. Usualy by this time after realise new books were there.

>>51211293
curseling not new, just a new run of the old mold

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>>51211265

> What would those grots be doing wiff it 'uh? Dey dont paint nuffin

Fings only a grot would do ov'course.

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>>51210764
Sorry for my crappy photo skills. These guys are the beginning of my world eater army for 2017

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Need some advice or ideas on a beginning list. I like drop pods, and I like Templars. I'm starting to see that they don't mix all that well, but before I switch chapters I'd like to hear if it would work at all at either 750 or 1000 points.
Another idea was to remove both the Chaplain and the Assault squad and run an Ironclad in the third pod instead.

>>51211271
If Pertarabo goes loyalist there would be a loyalist DP (and not a hypocritical "saint")

>>51211347
>toomuchblood/10

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>>51211104
Sounds legit.

>>51211156
I don't know of anything specific, but Iron Warriors could throw up pillboxes in a manner of minutes straight out of drop pods and gunships. Maybe your marines could do the same?

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>>51210614

>soon

you guys aren't going to get mad that Eldar are getting new stuff are you? I think anything that diversifies away from the normal broken units is a good thing for the game.

Also the guy in the red armour is Yriel. cap this.

>>51210764
GGA, your unrepentant, ceseless, and frankly frightening love of the Guard has forced me to start looking at Guard prices and theorycraft some list.

I hope you're happy, you dick.

>>51211177
Which one is the loyalist switching to chaos?

>>51211359
I'm new to khorne, is that a good or bad thing?

>>51211347
You converted guys from AoS?

>>51211333
Yeah, but in setting it's be a shock (to everyone but the Crimson Slaughter).

>>51211359
Anon hes playing world eaters. I dont think you can have to much blood

Does the Eye of Terror expanding seriously threaten Ulthwe now?

Likewise, is the Craft World actually fast enough to out run the expansion?

>>51211366
Oh no, New Alliance of Order.

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>>51211333
This meme is stupid.

>>51211377
The bodies are the dark vengeance chosen +chaos marine arms + 3rd party chain axes + the heads from the skullcrushers head

>>51211366
>diversifies away from the normal broken units is a good thing for the game.

If its MORE broken units then no it wont, the only thing thats good is Deldar getting some attention and I just hope its not the same attention BT got.

>Heard Black Templars wanted their army to be good? Here have another army to make your army good!.

My army is all 25mm but I've got a couple HQs, Imperial Space Marine, sergeants, etc that come on 32mm and I don't want to put them on 25mm. Is it going to look stupid to have a shit ton of 25mm marines and then random 32mm faggots mixed in, like one 32mm per squad?

>>51211333
It would be funny just to see all the Dark Angel fags throwing a shit fit.

>>51211395
>5 Super Heavies in the photo

I've never seen so many in one place. Also why is the photo tilted like that?

>>51211366
Eldar/Dark Eldar team-ups are my drug, so I'm more than ready for this.

>>51211347

Using the classic pre-Chaos WE colors on obviously post-Chaos models always looks really good. Probably just because white and blue looks better than the boring overdone red and brass.

The best WE scheme is white and red though.

So I absolutely love the look of Dreadnoughts and I was thinking about getting a couple with Power Fist Autocannon combo. Do they do well on the tabletop?

>>51211418
Everyone else just says "Told you so.".

>>51211388
They should be able to get away. They escaped the Eye before.

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Played a nice apoc game today.
Highlights were:
>3 Wraithknights clearing the centre of the table
>World eaters turn 1 assaulting a bunch of stuff
>Warp talons cutting apart 3/4 units
>Sister squad made 6/7 6++ saves
>GSC killing Imperial warlord (BT marshal)
>Failbaddon solo killing a Wraithknight

>>51211140

I don't like the giant ork mech head grafted on, it makes it look like an emu or a retard. Should've kept the same proportions as the original model IMO, maybe make a slightly bigger head up top. If you wanted the "giant ork face" most ork superheavies have, you should have done it gurren lagann style.

>>51211388
Do you really thing the new incompetents even check the older fluff before writing the abomination that is FoC?

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>>51211401
>watermarked reaction image

>>51211333

It would be incredibly stupid thing for GW to do. DA has a massive fanbase. AL not so much but the fallout form the DA fans would be big.

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Picture of my Dark Apostle, a Navigator stuffed with geneseed and enlightened to the True Gods.

>>51211301
>goblins from the hobbit starter box for example
How are the models compared to the original line? They look like a mess online along with the other god awful creations from those films.

>>51211444
Man for such a big fanbase i dont ever hear anyone talk about them.

>>51211421

4chan tilts photos of certain dimensions.
Cropping it a small bit fixes it.

>>51211451
"Say where enemy is and i will kill them"

>>51211440
I'm surprised you could see that, but at least it's not as bad as some stale old meme.

Can you use cover saves in meele?

>>51211363
Was that....Azula?

>>51211472
No

anyone got a bundle link for skitarii, so I don't gotta pick up / order a bunch of different shit?

>>51211472

No.
Rulebook is in the OP.

>>51211426
They got better because grenades got nerfed... but they still suffer from being a vehicle. Any real effort to hurt it, will probalby render it useless for the rest of the game.

>>51211472
I want someone to justify to me why you would be able to use a cover save when your opponent is right in your face.

>>51211479
this time it really is a jojo reference

>>51211472
Can you use cover saves if you are in the same piece of terrain

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>>51211472
Weak b8

Today was a good day

came today in the mail
>a box of Flash Gitz
>a box of Nobz
>Testor Model Masters Lusterless Spray
>a box of 32mm/25mm Shattered Dominion bases
>a Vindicator
>that one Dark Angels Interrogator Chaplain with the powerfist... you know the one

still waiting on:
>made to order scout sargeant
>death watch kill team
>techpriest enginseer 2
>dark angels upgrade sprue
>primaris psyker
>120mm by 90mm base
>deathwatch chaplain

>>51211426
Drop dreadnoughts still get the job done, same as always. I'm not sure what Powerfist/Autocannon is supposed to be doing, but dreadnoughts force your opponent to turn around and deal with them. This is trivial for most of the higher-tier armies - I'd go so far as to say making it trivial is what makes them higher-tier - but for pickup games with your mates they're pretty solid.

>>51211523
And yet.

>>51211451
not going to lie he does look kinda like he painted himself.

>>51211451
Thats definitly not enough chaos swag on this guy. A dark apostle should bevouverloaded with deamonic bling.

When is the next round of made to order?

>>51211506

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/8788514

>>51211506
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrRFzwPE0d4

Presenting exhibit J. Really, any of his fights would work to some extent.

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>>51211366
Oh boy, remember the end times when all the elves got combined in to one army and they called it the host of the eternity king.

I do.

I'm having flash backs right now.

40K END TIMES

>>51211506
Go to ground to scramble away?

>>51211596

Ladder: S10 AP1 Strike Down
Baby: Preferred Enemy: Everything

>>51211003
we had issues with the company that printed our hardback books. massive quality drops. now we just go hardcover on a few runs on a book.

thats why some books go back to softcover shorty after the release of the hardcover book (for example wrath of magnus)

>>51211532
>>that one Dark Angels Interrogator Chaplain with the powerfist... you know the one
Chaplain Fisty?

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>>51211551
>he does look kinda like he painted himself.

>>51211606
>WFB: a dead game given one last hurrah with the End Times
>40k: GW's cash cow that is going strong and won't. Fucking. Die. No need for a send off as it is doing fine.

>>51210614
Rules question concerning Inquisition: Do I need to purchase Acolytes if I buy a dedicated Transport? I plan on running a Inq. Detatchment, and using them as a cheap way to get transports for my Skitarii list. Also, if I do have to buy acolytes, do they need start embarked in the transport?

Now, Skitarii question: I plan on running a battle maniple, and running my Warlord squad with 3 Plas Cavaliers, and shunting them across with a Rhino. Question is, how do I run my Alpha? I was thinking full load out, with digital weapons, phase taser, Conversion field, and phospher blast pistol. I figure after spewing out my Plasma, it's only a matter of time before I get charged, or I need to charge. Is this a good load out?

>>51211698
You buy dedicated transports as part of a unit, not on their own.

>>51211698
Yes, if taking a vehicle as a DT you need the unit that owns it.

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>>51211350
Perhaps something like this?

>>51211698
The alpha is likely to get shredded before it ever attacks in cc. Just give it the radium carbine for more shooting. No point in giving it a bunch of upgrades.

Somebody in a group I'm in keeps saying that a valkyre can carry a dreadnaught, and that the rules for this are "in the forge world books". This is obviously false, right?

>>51211744

Only Stormravens and larger marine flyers can do that.

>>51211744
call em out, ask em which book.

>>51211744
>source?
>i-i-in one of the FW books, for real! You gotta believe me!
Tell him to put the rules in front of you to prove he isn't full of shit, and if he can't do that, QED.

>>51211753
That's what I thought, guess he's just a lying twat.

>>51211744
There is a dedicated vehicle transport Valkyrie, but it's a separate model to the standard one with its own rules, and IIRC can only carry Sentinels or Tauros buggies. So he's speaking out his ass.

Tell him that if he doesn't have the rules, he can't play it.

>>51211744
He probably saw the Sky Talon flulf and assumed it could carry them. But no, a Valkyrie cannot carry a dreadnought.

>>51211715
>>51211720
Gotcha; So now the question is, do I just buy the min. unit size (which will most likely be the 10 Psyker), or do Invest points into actual Acolyte squads?

>>51211784
the better question is why wouldnt you want to field nothing but acolyte squads of monkeys?

>>51211771
Even if he could the FAQ rules regarding allied transports means he couldn't embark the dreadnought.

>>51211744
the sky talon can carry tauroxes and drop sentinels to deepstrike them into places it flies over, but like every other flyer units can only start inside it if they're part of the same codex

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>>51211744
The convo for anyone interested. 40k amino is full of fucking retards I swear to god.

>>51211744
>This is obviously false, right?

Yes, the only flyer that can carry vehicles in Guard is the Sky Talon and it can only carry 2 Drop Sentinels or a Venator.

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>>51211629
aye that's the one

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>>51211744
Cont>>51211836
>>51211836

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>>51211843
Forgot pic, tell your friend to show you the rules or suck a dick.

>>51211836
Just kill him in the name of Slaanesh

>>51211738
That's not necessarily true. I'd rather have some sort of punch if I get into combat, rather than just getting out and out murdered by everyone. Plus, the Alpha has two wounds, plus a 4++, meaning he's decently survivable. Not to mention that Lumigen stacks with the Omnispex for -2 to cover.

Okay so I came by ownership of the kit for one of those trumpet Sigmarines, I don't play AoS and whilst I like to collect a few fantasy models just to display, a Sigmarine with a bloody trumpet certainly isn't something I want to display.

So: Ideas what to do with the parts?

>tfw think Greyfax is a qt and can finally have a good reason to field an assault friendly female Inquisitor in my assault army
>tfw Greyfax probably thinks my army is a bunch of abhorrent mutants because pale skin and other shit

Well at least they're not Space Wolves.

>>51211852
Nah he's full of shit.

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>>51211852
>the dread was part of a detachment, not allied army

>>51211852
Tell him to provide the exact ruling. He doesn't even need to own the physical book, just a screenshot of a downloaded copy. Because he's either wrong or lying.

>>51211846

For Ten Thousand years he's kept that hand strong in the Emperor's name.

How he does it, none can truly say.

>>51211885
People dont understand how allies work it seems

>>51211852
Your "friend" cant read the fucking rules, transports of any kind can only transport infantry unless the transport itself has a rule saying otherwise like the Stormraven or the Corvus that can carry bikes/dreadnoughts/jump infantry. The valkyrie doesnt have such exception and the sky talon can only carry 2 very specific vehicles so he's a retard.

Triumvirate box is limited edition????

>>51211852
Q: Can units that are Battle Brothers embark in each other’s
Transport vehicles during deployment?
A: No.

>>51211875

Very slightly convert her, run her as a different female inquisitor of your own invention. With the same rules even.

For a start, you could drop those damn heels. I can buy any level of silly cosmetic choices, but power armoured stiletto heels is not a fucking thing which should exist.

>>51211929

I was thinking of a headswap as although I'm a fan of her goofy hat her face sculpt isn't the best.

>>51211836
The rule he's talking about appears in Imperial Armor Aeronautica. The rule's called Sky Lift, which reads:

>A Sky Talon can carry one Tauros or Tauros Venator or two Drop Sentinels. If you have sufficient Sky Talons, they may carry a vehicle squadron. The Sky Talons must remain in coherency whilst transporting a vehicle squadron.

It gets this instead of being able to carry troops. The regular Valkyrie is unaffected.

>>51211055
>peltast spam with Cawl and a cheap Convocation with as many Knights as I can fit

>>51211929
if heels bother you, the rest of 40k and physics would like a word

>>51211919
I've seen nothing to say that it is.

>>51211919
Possibility. Box has some sexy art and a nice art print inside.

>>51211846

>"I bet you think I'm going to club you to death with this Crozius, but I'll let you in on a secret."

>>51211911
Oh he is far from my friend.

>>51211977
Kek.

New LoC soon, who I will build as Kairos.

I now have 3 LoCs. I plan on running the omniscient Oracle thing which is Kairos+Friends.

I don't know how to use so many MC. What do I try to do with them in games, it's like 900 points?

>>51211846
"No, there won't be lube."

>>51211830
Same faction. They can be different books as long as they are the same faction (check the datasheet icon).

Hmm.. I guess

>>51211994
Take a unit of 11 Horrors to make the army exactly 999 points
Take to the skies with the blessings of Tzeentch in your wings

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>>51211852
The shitfest continues. (Pretends to act like I don't know he's a massive lying cunt.)

>>51212014
ah, yeah, that's what i meant. good catch.

>>51211943
That's an official Ordo Hereticus hat.

Also apparently the designer thinks her eye is attached to the hat and is unhooks from her head when she takes it off.

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>>51210614

does anybody have a pic of the Wrathful Crusade formation for the
The Gathering Storm: Fall of Cadia.

Or just the book it self.

I couldn't find it in the mega.

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Well?

>>51212022
You are going to keep us updated right?

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knowing that the brushes / paints are overpriced to fuck for GW, where should I get them instead?

and is this worth picking up or should I throw anything else in there?

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>>51212022
>says the rule doesn't specify
>it actually does

>>51212052
>le tumblr maymay XD
fuck off

>>51212053
Of course <3

>>51212052
well give me some damn examples already

I work(ed) for a programming/graphics design office mained in China. Pretty sure I'm about to get shitcanned and I'm ready to pull the trigger, so I might as well post. Figured you would be more interested than /v/.

A few months ago we got some work to do some assets and scripts for a game under GW's license, maybe from Relic but only my boss's boss would know. We're still working on it now. The name of the project is Kill Team and it's a PC 40k moba. Not sure if it's multiplat.

I don't have too much information since we only did some minor models (scenery and background, mostly, it's what our office does), but it doesn't look too bad. You play as a generic hero, can buy war gear that changes how they look, and there are assets for nine different races in there. Abaddon, Magnus, and Farsight are referenced, but I haven't seen them. But I wasn't involved in that stuff and I haven't been told more than I had to know.

What I do know is that it plays like Heroes of the Storm, in that there are multiple maps with secondary objectives. One map has a wrecked Titan that can shoot onto the battlefield. Another has a Monolith that moves like a tug of war. Each map has a big gimmick and some smaller ones that you can interact with.

There's also a living lore thing that pops up every fucking loading screen (I see it every fucking time) that's supposed to dynamically fluff up the match. If your team has Tau and IG, it detects that and says you're a Tau group fighting with Gue'vesa. There's special text for all sorts of combinations.

I don't have ANY proof at all for any of this, and some of it is speculation based on what I've seen and worked with. All my work is on a workstation in an office, none of which I could bring home with me. Just giving you guys a headsup before this hits this year or next at E3 or wherever.

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>>51212022
He's totally full of shit.

>>51210953
Softback only. No miracle will save you from this hell.

>>51211874
It'd make a snazzy inquisitor if you can get other arms/weapons/a helmet for it.

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>>51212046
Need the Castellan too?

>>51212052
Show examples.

>>51212052

SJWs throwing huge pussy bitchfits over inherent sexism is stupid. It's not discriminatory or malicious sexism so what's the fucking problem? Sexual dimorphism is a fucking scientific fact.

>>51212077
>breaking news
>another shitty video game licence coming soon

that's great, who cares

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>>51212052
>Sexism
You misspelled "rampant xenophobia".

>>51212078
Yeah, I know.

>>51212046
Here, have a dropbox, brother-initiate!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fftgd9ojwwhjyni/Fall%20of%20Cadia.pdf?dl=0

>>51212052

Specifically singling out "guy fans" is sexist towards guys.

The way she is manhandling that dog against its consent is racist towards dogs.

>>51212052
Watching die hard fans of multiple fictional series desperately scramble to defend their headcanons of a fictional character's sexuality/gender/etc. when you point out the blunt fact that it's a fictional series is hysterical.

>>51210977
I find places that are impossible to paint after assembly are often difficult to see

>>51212052
I don't care. I am sexist. I have no obligation not to be.

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>>51212052

>>51212118
You know it's there, you'll notice.

Lightning Claw Terminators, yea or nay? I want to to use some kind of Assault Terminators in a Land Raider as fire magnet well the rest of my Razorbacks advance into beneficial shooting positions.

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Curious, but is the Leman Russ superior to it's Xenos and Chaos opposition in terms of armament?

From what I've seen, the basic Russ (despite being called primitive) puts quite a few enemy tanks to shame with it's main gun, if not necessarily it's technology or speed.

Also, is the Russ (or any of it's variants and vehicles built on it's chassis) produced by the Forces of Chaos, Tau aligned Humans or Renegades?

>>51212052
>Watching die hard guy fans of sports desperately scramble to defend the pastime when you point out the blunt instances of sexism is hysterical

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>>51211875
> Play a Raven Guard successor
> Full on Albinos, pain in the ass to paint but I've mastered the technique required.
> MFW Greyfax would hate my dudes because "people who look funny should die."
> MFW Greyfax bitched at Celestine because she had literally never heard of a saint before.

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>>51212052
okay

Really, though. Was the whole "BLACK TEMPLARS AND SISTERS OF BATTLE WILL GET A FORMATION TO BE FIELDED AS ONE GAIS!" thing just an elaborate hoax, did they mean the Wrathful Crusade and counted literally only Celestine as the SoB part or did they mean the Castellan detachment, that's neither a formation nor a Black Templars/SoB thing?

I'm feeling kind of cheated, really.

>>51212151

RG geneseed is suffering

>>51212107
These people will unironically argue that it's sexist to not show women participating as soldiers in conflicts from history in which women didn't participate as soldiers on the grounds that "it's a game so it's not going to be historically accurate anyway, so there's no reason for the combatants not to be women."

There's no point even responding to them.

>>51211952

I think it's a pretty legitimate place to draw a line. I'll accept boobplate, corsets built into armour, hell, I'd accept a bare midriff or other partial armour configurations.

But high heels on power armour? Literally an inconvenience that doesn't even serve an inefficient purpose. It stands out as a wildly wrong detail, in part because of how mundane it is.

A chainsaw sword works by rule of cool. It's transparently absurd, but strikes a cool image.

The fuck do high heels have to do with coolness? I can see them walking down any street on the planet.

>>51211104
Chaos will get the dark angels... They have been treated like chaos by gw for a few Edittions now (shit rule)

The emperors children will go loyal after slaanesh gets destroyed and his influence on them fades

>>51212138
the main cannon variants wreck shit but the platform itself is arguably inferior to other, comparable platforms depending on combat doctrine and tactics

A Leman Russ isn't a particularly fast vehicle, for instance

>>51211365
>>51211183
Hmm...well, it's good to know marines can set things up fast, though those are both good suggestions to justify more standard fortifications.

I'll think on it a bit more, but I'm glad I won't need to cobble together something out of vehicle parts.

>>51212171
>The fuck do high heels have to do with coolness?
women wear them because they're cool

just like men wear suits because those are cool

duh

>>51211366

>No Corsairs or Exodites in the picture

fucking GW

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TG, what do you think of my first attempt at painting since 2004?

>>51212171
Most SoB don't have them, it's just Veridyan and that new Inquisitor.

>>51212160
Almost but not quite as bad as Salamanders. Making salamanders faces look good is an exercise in frustration. You need like 7 different shades of brown.

Painting Raven Guard just requires Rakarth Flesh, White Scar, Nuln Oil, and then redoing the White Scar.

>>51212171
>power armored high heels are worse than bare midriff on power armor

Bruh

High heels can at least have a plausible explanation like prosthetics or even firing stabilizes like the large suits have. But bare midriff with power armored boobplate and power armored legs is a crushed spine and multiple gutshots, no two ways about it.

>>51212157
You can run the as a single army with a Castellan anon.

>>51212137
>>51212137
yea.
They look rad as fuck, and like with all terminators, if they live to see combat, they wreak havoc.

>>51212103
Not that guy but Cheers.

Shame that fall of Cadia bring very little to the table for IG

>>51212171
you clearly aren't a girl
>>51212172
Fulgrim becoming a champion of the Emperium? be still my heart

>>51212184
Why is there a limp metal dong hanging from your Marine's gun?

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>>51212077
>I don't have ANY proof at all for any of this

>>51212184

Why does your cutting board have shooting targets on it?

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>>51212171
I find the heels cool because I love Blanche's absurd, over-the-top heavy metal aesthetic and anything which brings that into the miniatures scores major points with me.

>>51212186

Well, that's why I was complaining about Greyfax then, isn't it?

>>51212171
Well, it can make sense on Inquisitors. She'd not be much taller than your average SoB without them and showing any authority towards a fucking Space Marine when you could lick their nipples by just standing is kind of hard. With the heels, a female Inquisitor is almost on face-to-face level with a marine.

Then again, that would only make sense on "parade armor" and other non-combat suits, though so would all the decorative bullshit everyone wears so they probably don't have that concept in-universe anyway.

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>>51212083
And Belisarius Cawl please.

If you would do so kind and if you have the time. Can you please dump all the formations as well.

Thank you.

>>51212217

Directly adapting Blanche to minis is a trainwreck waiting to happen.

He does good mood-setting concept art, but it needs a bunch of tweaks to make a good 3D model, as proved by how shit the limited Canoness looked.

>>51212219
Why are battle-heels a problem for you, anyway? Have a problem with women wearing heels?

She can clearly function well enough in them. Don't shame her sense of fashion and choice in armour.

>>51212215
americans usually use 9mm modelling tools

>>51212227
>With the heels, a female Inquisitor is almost on face-to-face level with a marine.
actually because of the way they've done the scaling, greyfax is probably taller than most marines

>>51212197
Well, yes, of course it's possible. It's just pretty much bending their words to say "This huge detachment for every imperial force that's not the AdMec or a unique Chapter is a formation that allows you to run Black Templars and Sisters of Battle together!"

>>51212193

Was more thinking female fantasy armour with bared midriffs in general, on that point. Yes, power armour wouldn't function without spine support.

>>51212210
Not sure what the fuck that's supposed to be, bolt shell hanging off of it? Idk. It's on a few of the bolters.

>>51212215
Reasons. http://www.sunshinecoasttoyshobbies.com.au/images/products/ip078769.jpg

>>51212232
This guy did it already and better than I could: >>51212103

>>51212260
Yeah, she's almsot 2 heads taller with her hat as a model, though I doubt that size is her "canon" size, especially when compared to things like that first promo artwork in the webway.

>>51212171
You realize that the entire purpose of fashion is to signal status right?

Have you noticed that the female characters with high-heeled power armor are high status women like inquisitors, all of whom, male and female alike tend to wear ornate, questionably practical armor to display their status.

If it's totally reasonable for a male inquisitor to have exposed biceps, a fur mantle and a cape, it's equally reasonable for a female inquisitor to have heels on her power armor.

So..... exodite army soon? Please tell me I'm getting my dino elves guys.

>>51212227
>you will never have a tsundere female inquisitor bury her face in your muscled astartes pecs

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>>51212182
Women wear they to make their legs look longer, making them appear taller and thinner. There is an age old association between long legs and sex appeal, and there're several theouries about line, symmetry, shape, and the "psychology of the eye." The eye is naturally drawn to longer legs in the same way as it is drawn to negative space.

And when we stare at womens legs, we are likely to associate them with sex.

It's especially effective when they are bare.

While the science behind it is cool, women do not wear high heels because they are cool, but choose your cancer
because they are sex objects competing for our seed.
because social pressures focus women on revolving their lives around pleasing men

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>>51212052
Jesus christ

>>51212291
Plastic corsairs I think would happen before that

>>51211551
Op here, that just made himt hree times as funny.
>What color is our armor?
>dark red my lord
>what color am I holding slave?
>dark red, my lord, as you requested
>turns out it's neon green, takes twenty minutes for the Apostle to find out, two days to track down the slave, three seconds to beat his ass.

>men don't really understand female power fantasies
>therefore these things aren't often represented in games created by men
>we aren't applying for job positions to help shape these games and cast a wider net to appeal to more diverse tastes, though
>instead we're just going to shame men and offer zero constructive criticism

i swear women are like, Ld 5.

>>51212291
I want them, too, anon. It's between the potential Exodites or Space Marines(Exorcists, Black Templars, or a custom chapter) for my 4th army.

>>51212100
underrated

>>51212291
>Troops are T5 Cavalry with autocannons and ML1

>>51212323
It's that Golden Daemon winner all over again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FayBHOhucf0

>>51212306
>women do not wear high heels because they are cool

Speak for yourself. I wear them because they make me feel more confident and assertive. That's pretty cool by my book.

>>51212306

Crawl back in your hole incel

this hobby seems pretty daunting to get into.

>>51212274
>>51212103

Thank you.

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Considering another IG army to go with my space shermans. This one will be a penal legion with uncamo-ed tanks (i.e. lots of silver bare metal), troopers in orange jumpsuits, and orange strips on vehicles to mark them as penal legions.

...Oh, and everyone gets a plasmagun. Because nobody in the spess sherman army would touch the things, they gave them all to prisoners and told "March forward, shoot everything you see!"

My regular army's job is literally to just walk a few miles behind this new regiment and pick the plasmaguns of the burning corpses, and occasionally salvage a burning tank husk or two.

I call it "Ryza's Forsaken" I need only mod it to accept a Macharius Omega.

>>51212372
Don't act like a Tau, act like a Guardsman, affix paintbrush and charge!

>>51212077

Thanks anon, much appreciated. Actually sounds like it might be neat.

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>>51212369
You mean...
CAWL back into your hole, right?!

>>51212355
Why do they make you feel more confident and assertive? Does being taller, despite being significantly less stable make you feel superior?
Does being taller draw more attention, and you like that?

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>>51212077
>What I do know is that it plays like Heroes of the Storm

Stopped reading right there. It's already trash.

Try to sabotage the project somehow

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>>51212392
why the fuck does this cost 60

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>>51212354
I know I'm not a good painter, but that was physical painful to watch.

>>51212398
>Adeptus Getchanicus
>not Adeptus Checkanicus

Hang on let me try to rephrase a bit:

The reason heels are setting me off is because they're -actively worse than nothing even at a casual glance-.

A chainmail bikini is more protection than no armour at all, even if it's bloody silly.

It doesn't take a genius to notice the technology used to make a chainsword actually usable would be better used making a non-chainsword weapon better instead. But it's still better than taking someone on unarmed.

And I'll defend boob plate on sisters to my dying breath, because it perfectly fits the gothic asthetic of the Ecclesiarchy.

>>51212138
>Curious, but is the Leman Russ superior to it's Xenos and Chaos opposition in terms of armament?

That depends. Do you mean in game terms, or in fluff terms? I would say "no" either way, but it depends.

For instance, vs Eldar:
If we're comparing the Leman Russ as "basic battle tank" then that'd be the Falcon, which has inferior armament (on the table and in fluff, imo). But the Falcon is actually a transport, and the pure anti-tank Falcon is a Fire Prism. IMO the Fire Prism's rules are better on the table, and in fluff it's no contest. And if we count the archeotech-equivalent version of the Falcon, the Warp Hunter, then the Leman Russ is absolutely BTFO (however, the Eldar seem to have forgot how to make these or something, and there aren't many left).

As far as where they're made, they're made on forge worlds so any of those groups could conceivably make them if they had the equipment. However, the reason Chaos forces usually don't make new shit is that they barely have any forge worlds and the ones they do have are shitholes. I am not certain if there are confirmed Chaos Leman Russes or not since I can't remember if they were introduced before or after the Heresy. Look it up on Lexicanum if you want.

>>51212444
>what is hobby lobby

>>51212444
Because GW assumes you don't know any better.
They aren't particularly good, by the way.

>>51212444
Don't buy tools from GW.

>>51212354

My worthless assistant, MANFRED...

>>51212444

I don't see anything there that costs $60

>>51212444

Their scalpel is really good and comes with enough replacement blades to last a really long time.

Otherwise, skip the range.

>>51212476
Combined. 30+10+20

>>51212306
Isnt that pretty much true for men? I could argue that men evolved more defined pectorals and abdomens because they draw the eyes of the female. It's like, why do men go shirtless? Why do they wear wife beaters?

>>51212372

It's a lot easier if you just take it slow. $20 a month, one purchase at a time. It's only overwhelming when you feel like you need to buy a $60 rulebook, a $60 codex, a $100 starter army, $100 of supplies.

All you need is a $10 kolinsky brush, $10 to $20 of paints, a knife, clippers, a box of models, maybe some files.

>>51212484
It's not a scalpel/hobby knife, it's a scraping tool for moldlines. It doesn't come with blades.

>>51212199
Which is generally accepted as better, Cataphractii or Indomitus?

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>>51212227
>Not licking nipples to assert dominance

>>51212494
>why do they wear wife beaters?
because they beat their wives?

>>51212460
Russ' were around during Great Crusade. Chaos does have Russ' though they're probably mostly from guardsmen turning traitors.

>>51212490

That's the cost in pounds, not dollars.

>>51210764
I keep wanting to play but I'm not going to be able to this weekend. I'm frustrated. It's been like a month since I played and ideally I want to play 1-2 times a week.

>>51212444

The cutters have fancy metal handles and actually use a shearing cut. It's not "worth the money" but it's not exactly an overpriced piece of shit like their brushes and mold line remover are.

Also all mold line removers are expensive. The actual non-Citadel mold line remover that some company that invented it sells for like $15.

http://www.micromark.com/seam-scraper,7547.html

>>51212501

I'm not talking about that piece of crap. When I said "their scalpel is good" I meant, believe it or not, that their scalpel is good.

>>51210764
Ah GGA, I genuinely hated you at first, your incredibly lazy approach to painting made me livid! I've only recently realized it's because even in your laziest ideas you had more motivation to paint than I've ever had in the past 7 years.
I've dusted off my friends gaurd he gave me when he dropped out of the hobby and have officially started the Jarls of Fenris project.
I don't have any pictures on my phone, I may post them later tonight when I get home.

>>51212509

Cataphractii if you have no iron halo or storm shield. Indomitus otherwise. GW will eventually FAQ the 40k SnP exploit so don't bother downgrading to Cataphractii just to gain SnP if you already had a 4++ or better on the Indomitus.

>>51212494
Sure, but strength and fitness have benefits beyond illusion, and being shirtless, while often exploited, is very heat efficient and was originally useful for survival.

If we find some archeological evidence that heels helped pick berries or some shit, you'll be that much closer to being right.

>>51212546
>uses the word illusion to mean aesthetics

Check out this manlet.

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>>51212536
>>51212501

Seriously, I swear by this thing. It and disposable emery boards are all you'll ever need to clean up a model once you've clipped it from the frame.

>>51212513
As someone with sensitive nips this is a terrifying prospect

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>>51212574
Whop, aesthetics is totally the better word.

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>>51212592
I thought this thing was a bad joke until I saw so many positive reviews of it. Even then it had to be a meme or something. I tried it anyway idk.

Turns out it is actually really good.

>>51212217

It's like Tim Burton and H.R. Giger had a gay baby who got really into watercolors.

>>51212239

It can be done well, he even had his own converted CSM team. There's a good deal of sculptors who kitbash Blanche-esque stuff, even adapting some of his weirder designs.

>>51210839
Battle Company, Command Squads with Apothecaries and Dreadnoughts for filler.

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>>51212465
Honestly, for the paint - wouldn't I be better going their brand, Citadel and getting the other tools separate?

>>51212622
>>51212592
afk'd too long and my cart got cleared.

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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>>51212151
To mend and defend!

>>51212444
The fine detail cutters are really good to be honest.
I don't regret buying them at all.

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>>51212625
>giger
Nah, I don't see it.

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Posted this last thread and didn't get much input.

How can I give my Librarians a more optimized loadout? Or how would you change the list?

>>51212052
>series
her opinion means nothing.
and her doggo isn't cute

>>51212649
Citadel paint is good paint, you should use it. Just don't buy their tools or paintbrushes.

So can someone who read Fall of Cadia tell me what happened to the Imperial Fists? Maybe post a page? Have we been cucked AGAIN?

>cawl has like a billion parts

Yo fuck this shit the entire reason I even play 40k instead of building gundams and 1000 piece kotobukiya models is because they were easy as fuck to assemble

>>51212649
JESUS CHRIST ANON STOP

None of those. Get Acrylic paints, specifically for models.

Get Army Painter, Vallejo Model, Reaper Master, Privateer Press, Coat D'arms, GW even. But not those!

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>>51212354
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>>51212696
Be'lakor cucked you.

>>51212661
I hate agreeing with this. I do. But they are singularly the best clippers i've ever used.

I am not saying buy them. they are fuckoff crazy expensive. so save your money

but damn if i don't actually enjoy using them

>>51212649

I really want to see your posts after you buy a $60 watercolor set and try to paint your models with them. Brand doesn't matter, but you still need to buy the right kind of tool. You don't buy a butcher's knife and watercolors when you need a hobby knife and high pigment model paints.

>>51212649
>wouldn't I be better going their brand, Citadel

They are great paints, especially for more vibrant colors. Vallejo is also great but generally more opaque than Citadel as its focused more on historical games.

>>51212354
I FORGOT ABOUT THIS!

>>51212598
Just as planned.jpg

>>51212711
Care to explain? Or are you meme?