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Cadia stands! Edition.

>Previous thread
>>51190087

>A shitty little list builder that you all should stop ASKING ABOUT YOU FILTHY BITCHES
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>Freshest Rules in Epub (Use Readium for PC or Kobo on Android)
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>Not always current PDFs:
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>Up to date FAQs
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>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
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>Forge World Book Index:
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> The Black Library(Stay the fuck away from the clowns)
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How will Creed escape Trazyn's tesseract? Ideas pls.
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>>51195350
He wont, he's being written out of the game.
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>>51195288
2nd for Sister Fister.
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>>51195350
A baneblade blowing a hole in it from the inside out, obviously.
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>>51195350
he infiltrates himself out of it after rolling the proper warlord trait
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>>51195288
Nth for ork players
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Guardsmen Who Do Not Namefag but have Distinctly Colored Armies That Everyone on the Thread now Knows By Name (GWDNN DCATET KBN, or Gwen-den D-catet K-ben for short!) REPORT IN IN THE NAME OF CADIA!
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>Orks are a melee race
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
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>>51195357
And I just bought my creed model a few weeks ago :(
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Any Ork players present, how is this for a Big Mek mob?
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>>51195389
Being dead stopped no one from being playable before.
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>>51195361
guardfag anon with the baneblade still here, shitposting on the general thread is a great way to kill a slow day at work

also im thinking about painting all my cadians shoulder pads black or something like that to mourn cadia, thoughts?
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>>51195402
>No grot tanks
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I repeat

My rep tells me that the eldar in the red suit is an old Autarch and that many will be surprised when they reveal his name
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R8 please
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I tried to make a list based on what i have, and what im likely to buy, but i think it might be garbage
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>>51195375
>distinctly coloured
>same khaki green as every other guard player

:?
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>>51195407
I beg to differ.
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>>51195438
the stuff i don't have right now are the deathwatch and legionaries
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>>51195424
Uranash Skyblade?
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Black templars were hugely wiped out on cadia, ensuring they will fade into obscurity and never get special rules again. BT will be a footnote in the Imperial Fist rules in 8th.
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>>51195427
can someone explain to me the idea behind the nurgle biker sorcerer thing?
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>>51195455
Thats just proving anon's point, Macharius was already dead when he was introduced.
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>>51195427
Illegal/10
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>>51195455
he had rules in two editions, mate
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>>51195472
Yes, several characters were like that. They're gone now.
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>>51195424
Drazhar reveals his true identity and will bridge the gap between humans, craftworld and deldar.
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Might as well join in the list posting.
General puring list, don't know the army i'm gonna play but it wont have flyers.
Still don't know what psychic powers to roll for the librarian.
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>>51195402
More templates, fewer troops.
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>>51195446
>same khaki green as every other guard player
>guard
>go for the standard cadian 8th pattern with some embellishments on the shoulders
>paint my whole army only to realize it looks identical to every other guard army
FUCK

I made a mistake /tg/!
What do I do about it that doesn't mean stripping and repainting everything?!
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>>51195375
WW2 guard anon here, army is at 80% painted now + a new baneblade in box, I'm gonna post pics soon of my progress
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>>51195467
>Step 1: Take a bunch of T6 FNP bikers
>Step 2: Profit
Which step confuses you?
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>>51195375
where is grey guardfag with neon orange bases? cadia needs him
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>>51195497
I don't suppose you know a good way to paint digital camo on guards?
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>>51195487
>Drazhar speaks.
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>>51195424
I copy it here if you have not read it in the other thread:

Have similarities, removing the helmet... could be
Background explains that not all the autarchs use the same equipment, but I do not remember the name of any autarch.
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>>51195497
look up video of daddy duncan painting digital camo on a camo cloak, just rescale that for a tank with some adjustments would be my suggestion
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>>51195501
i get that, but why are sorcerers specifically so popular?
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>>51195482
How is it illegal? The compulsories are 1 of chaos warband or plague colony
>>51195467
Only way you can get a sorcerer to T6 with 3 saves is MoN and a bike. The primaris power is worth taking alone, grants one enemy model Gets Hot, so it makes an enemy riptide or wraithknight commit suicide. Forced to go psyker level 3 to have the best chances of getting it off, and having a spell familiar for 15 points is just damn swell.
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>>51195523
> clearly a more dark eldar helmet and quite majorly different armour in general
but anon he's red and has spikey bits on his back

:^)
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>>51195543
>>51195514
sorry this one was actually meant for you
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>>51195371
Very sorry for you, and i'm a guard player, so by rights and lore I should hate you.
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>>51195350
he was never inside it, Trazyn is Creed in disguise.
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>>51195564
well vehicles seems easier, just use tape right? but infantry?!
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>>51195375
I go for valhallan light blue and white camo. Tanna tea and balls of plasteel are the name of the game baby.
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statline me /tg/!
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>>51195375

I don't think there any other Vostroyan Anons...
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>>51195491
Reminds me of a lore question I haven't found the answer to yet:

It's said that Blood Axes will frequently hire themselves out to other races as mercenaries, but would they consider hiring other races as mercenaries for their own campaigns?
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>>51195424
if they did nuadhu fireheart I'd be pretty surprised

It's probably just going to be eldanesh/ulthanesh, though. They're the only relevant non-phoenix lord names I can think of.
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>>51195580
What would you suggest for inquisition tempestus?
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>>51195556
It has to do with weapon options.

>>51195544
>Step 1: Cast Blessings on your T6 FNP bikers
>Step 2: Profit
Which step confuses you?
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>>51195577
like i said warhammer TV has multiple guides for digital camo on vehicles and people
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>>51195523
Those back spikes are straight off an incubus.

And he's Kabal of the Flayed Skull colors, which is the newest kabal and scheme that they were pushing in the most recent DE book.
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>>51195466
>no major BT characters were on Cadia
>BT had extra marines to spare anyways and now have an excuse to start up several new crusades
>the imperium will be so focused on stopping abbadon no one will question the fact that Helbrecht is mobilizing a new force that is way over chapter limits
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Will this lose me friends?

Castellans Detachment 1250

>HQ
Celestine 200
Veridyan 85

>Troops
4x
Battle Sisters x5 135
HF+Flamer
TLMMolator

>FA
Seraphim x10 180
Hand Flamer x2

Dominions x5
Melta x4
TLMM

>HS
Retributers x10
Heavy Bolter x4
Simulacrum
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>>51195585
WS2, BS2, S2, T2, W1, I2, A1, LD7 6+ 6++
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>>51195424
>>51195457
uranash is alive?
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>>51195618
Oh for fucks sakes I don't want some new character being introduced when DEldar have probably the coolest and most diverse range of characters (in the canon anyway) already
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>>51195626
are any of your friends orkz or nids?
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>>51195618
>which is the newest kabal
They're from third edition. Kruellagh the Vile's kabal, and were about half of the studio models from the same time.
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>>51195585
>Preferred Enemy (Grey Plastic)
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>>51195607
as far as camo goes? Tempestus go as tempestus must, if they're on the inquisition's payroll, they can afford two sets of clothes, so probably black if they're assisting the inquisition. If you wanted less lorefaggy ideas, grey, probably, great neutral colour.
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>>51195421

Speaking of Grot Tanks, is it better to field those with the Grot Mega Tank or the Mek Boy Junka?
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>>51195467
bikes gives you extra +1 Toughness on top of the +1 T reroll FnP and shrouded DG get.

Its just a very Unfluffy way of making your HQ units even harder to kill.

Its also a great way to differentiate DG players who play the legion for its lore and the ones who play it for the rules and they think their lore is "alright".

Still there are MUCH meaner comps in the game right now. and people who call others "waac" just for fielding with DG rules are prissy manlets. But latter applies to more than just DG, just because someone likes the aethestics of Craftworlds-Eldar doesnt mean theyre intentionally being a powergaming sore-winner/loser.
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Hold the Line for the God- Emperor and for our fallen brothers of Cadia anons!!
Show me your games and armies anons.
Also what is everyone up to? Any hobbying? I might do some late night priming on my models just to get it done. And any tips to offer on converting some Outriders to Rough Riders? I'm still a little unsure on how to do it.
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>>51195585
WS BS S T W I A LD
7 1 1 1 1 10 2 10
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>>51195590
I guess that if you want to play an army with a shitload of troopers you have to stick with plastic kit... Well, at least you HAD, because the price of of a cadian kit was multiplied by two over the last 10 years.
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>>51195643

Haven't seen my Ork/Nid friends since 5th, sadly.
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>>51195594
They're probably too proud to hire others to fight for them.

Green is best.
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>>51195676

WS10 BS2 S3 T3 W1 I4 A1 Ld5 Master-crafted
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I'm still new to 40k/painting

What do you think of my archon/venom/talos thus far? I still need to try and get more yellow highlights on the archon and Venom soldiers' armor, and I need to pick up some sort of green for the talos' ichor injector and his respirator cord
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>>51195626
I don't think its ever going to be possible to make anyone hate you for playing SoB.
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>>51195594

Well, it's no unheard of.

In the Baneblade novel, I believe they described some of the Humans working as guards in an Ork held Imperial Hive to be mercenaries.
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>>51195411
Sounds like a good plan to me.
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>>51195654
>>51195607
I went with this color scheme; but i have NO IDEA how to paint my chimera
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>>51195673
the Imperium would truly be lost with you grey guard anon, never has a line been so thoroughly held.
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>>51195734
Bronze body, silver and gold trim.

Balls-out stormtroopers. Truly the Emperor's finest.
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>>51195703
bees/10

thin your paints, apply wash
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>>51195705

Wasn't sure with all the Celestine frothing at the mouth here.

Also, I just had a thought:

With the Casellen detachment, I'm fairly certain you're allowed to have 4 HQs with EW.

>Cloak of St Aspiria from AS
>Cloak of St Aspiria from IA
>Shroud of the Anti-Martyr
>Celestine
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>>51195491
The Killkannon on the battlewagon forces the Flash Gitz to snapshoot
Put a Supa-Kannon on it instead
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>>51195763
fuck yes, they are chosen by the inquisition - damn straight they are in gold
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>>51195641
>>51195650
Kruellagh is the Archon of the Emasculators.

Although it does say affiliated with the kabal of the flayed skull. Interesting.

They're colors have come a long way from then, however. Red-black was one of the three generic schemes of the time, while this is quite distinct.
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>>51195594
My lore explanation for the Knight is that it was looted by the boyz and the Mek piloting it is paranoid when anyone gets too close to his prize. Hence, One Eye Open.
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>>51195783
>>51195650
Wrong image. Meant to stitch them together.
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>>51195703

It's a tad blurry, but your paints look a little thick, and overall they're kinda flat. Washes will go a long way and so will. Highlighting. I've seen much worse put on the table, though.
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>>51195772
the Celestine anger comes from people that know shes just going to be abused in WAAC imperial armies. A 100% SoB army with Celestine is to be expected, and will make them more interesting to play against.
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>>51195618
I honestly see more like the autarch than the incubus In those images.

>>51195457
According to eldar codex this is Uranash Skyblade Autarch
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>>51195411
more like all their shoulder pads are black because SISTER FISTER THEIR BLACK BANEBLADE
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>>51195772
>Cloak of St Aspiria from AS
>Cloak of St Aspiria from IA
I will be eternally grateful to IA and FoC for showing us, once and for all, that Inquisition "players" and Sisterfags are a bunch of powergaming fucknuggets.
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I've been wanting to build an Inquisitorial warband for a while and have been stuck debating options.

BS3 Carapace Bolter Henchmen with 3 specials in a Chimera
Or
BS4 Carapace Bolter Henchmen with 2 special weapons in a Taurox Prime.

Both squads are MSU sized and Carapace is honestly only three because I want to use the Scion models.

The hidden plus side for Scions is that I can run them in a Castellan and buff them with some Guard toys inside the same FOC. Flip side is I can do that with C:AI and formations too.

Thoughts?
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>>51195796
That little hobgoblin thing looks so cheery
>oh boy boss, we're gonna go capture and torture 'em good ain't we?!
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>>51195795
you don't need to worry about one eye open, you're allies of convenience
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>>51195585
WS10 BS6 S3 T4 W3 I7 A6 LD10 2+ 4++

Unit Type Jump-Jet pack Infantry(Character)

Special Rules:
Independent Character
Fearless
Preferred Enemy (Grey Plastic)
Slow and Purposeful
Psyker(Mastery Level 4)
Rampage
Feel No Paint(2+)


Wargear:
Artificer Armor
Iron Halo
Brace of Brushes
Paint Bandolier
Rattlecan Jump Pack
Paint Pot Grenades
Relic: Artificer Brush

Artificer Brush: Range: Melee S+3 AP- Master-Crafted, Shred, Plasticbane

Brace of Brushes: Duncan always counts as having two close combat weapons.

Paint Bandolier: Duncan has a bandolier with every citadel paint known to man affixed to micro-missiles. At the press of a button he can fire any number of paint pots in a barrage.

Range: 24" S4 AP6 Concussive, Large Blast, Barrage, Ignores Cover, Shred, Assault 3

Paint Pot Grenades: Duncan counts as having Assault and Defensive Grenades.

Rattlecan Jump Pack: Duncan counts as unit type Jet-pack Infantry AND Jump Pack Infantry gaining the special rules and movement distances of both.
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>Love Ork fluff, models, conversions and painting
>Hate their rules and hate playing them
>No other army appeals to me
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>>51195811
>>51195771

what colours would you recommend for washes? I've been basing all my yellows with averland sunset and I layered the talos with flash gitz yellow since I felt the big chunks were too dark.
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>>51195834
Only take actual henchmen for flamer and bolter luggers. Don't give them any armor or upgrades, they're going to die anyways.

Scions for everything else.
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>>51195834
I think you're better off using the Scion rules over Acolytes, use henchmen for stuff you cant get elsewhere like Crusaders/priests/death cultists, plus with the Castellan you could add a Scion command squad and use their orders to boost them more.
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>>51195815

That's comforting, then. When I can buy her alone, she'll push me over the 2200 mark if I use everything. However, I do have a Knight that I have yet to put together, which might be a little crazy with IWND from her.

>>51195833

>giving a T3 3+/4++ EW is power gaming
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hey whats the best way to pop armor with raven guard?
maybe devestators in the pinion, but thats not enough to do much.
should I look at skyhammer orbital force with melta/plas?
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>>51195817
The helmet, back-spikes, and segmented plates (esp. at the hips) are distinctly dark eldar. The shoulders themselves are definitely closer to the autarch you posted (the mini one, at least).

True to form, I think it matches Cawl's description that it contains traits of both craftworld and commorrite, yet also traits from neither.
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>>51195544
psychic phase is really strong and nurgle is the best at it as far as codex csm is concerned
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>>51195852
Ignore the Slow and Purposeful, I had a different idea in mind and forgot to delete it.
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>>51195857
proxy as space wolves
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>>51195864

Nuln Oil is liquid skill. Just don't go overboard.
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>>51195857
>loves orc fluff
>is worried about rules and play style
>isn't content with just fighting
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>>51195811
while we are here, do you think I could get some feedback on my first painted skitarii ?
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>>51195783
>Red-black was one of the three generic schemes of the time, while this is quite distinct.
it basically hasn't changed at all. The flayed skull kabal were the red armored dudes with silver helmets from 3e. All they did was swap the silver for bone. The rest is just having models that aren't garbage.

The ones who changed heavily (colour wise) were the black heart.
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>>51195892
I have some of that, should I just apply a thin layer to the whole talos/archon?
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>>51195288
Dubs decide the color scheme and name of my Forgeworld
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>>51195857
dude, homebrew is your friend, try and balance them yourself, or use space odin's homebrew, at least until orks are balanced again.
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>>51195868
That sounds like either a PITA to ally in if you use C:AI since the new formation is a formation of all the =I= options as one unit.
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>>51195877
a knight with IWND will be pretty much on par with a standard WK. in fact you can even justify it by saying you paid 100 fucking points more than the WK to get IWND
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>>51195916
I mean obviously Ryza is superior
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>>51195895
>Ork player is effectively tabled by the top of turn 3
>fails to inflict any significant damage
>hurr y u no liek fite?
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>>51195882
BEST best?

I'd say max grav or melta Skyhammer. It'll cost you, but things will explode.

Shadowstrike Kill Team could be good to huck a few powerfists/mauls at a tank out of deepstrike.
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>>51195916
Forgeworld Name: Vanquisar
Colour scheme: Primary Red and Secondary Bronze
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>>51195909
I'd recommend against it. It'll make the mini blotchy and ugly, and could possibly make a really ugly gloss.
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>>51195896
bretty gud actually

you could pick out some details on the gun in silver

base looks like dogshit
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>>51195916
Bright pink and yellow, Forgeworld Barbie
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>>51195882
drop podding a command squad with melta guns is always the answer.
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>>51195916
Stygies VIII and Stygies VIII colors.
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>>51195944
damn that was fast. i smell a heretic
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>>51195944
WINNA WINNA
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>>51195944
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>>51195944
Well fuck. There goes all the fun.

Dubs decide the name of my Tech Priest Dominus.
Trips decides the name of his daughter, who went onto become a inquisitor of the Ordos Mechanicus.
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>>51195594
In the 1st edition ork books, orks could take human and ogryn mercenaries and blood axes got the option to take more of them and with better equipment (only their ogryns could have ripper guns, for example).
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>>51195895
>wots a orc? can iz feed it to a squig?
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>>51195948
yeah i dont know what to do about the base, its astrogranite debris, and i don't know if i just applied it wrong or it just looks like dogshit normally
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>>51195927
>Gork and Mork are smiling down upon you
>you went into battle knowing you would lose
>you fought as best you can
>stuff died
>are you not entertained?
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>>51195963
nah, i'm imbued with the faith of the emperor, and mostly the need for an enginseer to fix my damned tank.
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>>51195977
Krolus Candanis
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>>51195984
give it some drybrushing and washes and it could be a decent moonscape, make sure you scrape round the edge to clean it up
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>>51195916
forge world: fisted tran-sister
scheme: sisters colors
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>>51195977
Donus Merkan

Mira Merkan
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>>51195979
Great, if that's the case then I won't feel bad allying in renegades and heretics for my Blood Axes. I'll just use the necromunda gangers I have and call them mercs.
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>>51196003
do you think it needs to be laid on thicker?
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>>51195987
vanqs are the fukkin best
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>>51195977
Astragal Bream

Corona Bream
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>>51195896

Without nitpicking, it looks good. The silver looks a little thick, though. I get that problem, too.

>>51195909

You could. I'd experiment, though. If you do, you'll want to put another thing layer up.

Basically what I did here was paint the base layer, wash it with the flesh wash, and then put a thin layer of skin tone.

Nuln should work for deldar because they don't use normal skin tones.

Just be careful of what >>51195945 said, though.
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>>51195987
i got just the thing
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>>51196040
fuck yeah brother, if only there were more of them. fuckin orks.
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>>51195977
Bob

Liliana.
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>>51195925

That's a silly thought. WK are just dirt cheap.

I'm going to go with a crusader because it fits thematically with the sisters anyway with the melta and bolter canons.
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>>51195944
well that was fast, lets come up with some lore for this forgeworld while we're at it.
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wait so what's going on with cadia?
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>>51196114
>he doesn't know
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>>51195977

Thaddius and Bellida Fausteux
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>>51196114
it ded
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>>51196114
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>>51196069
the fact that an imperial knight can be taken out with 1 lucky shot is pretty absurd after you factor in that it costs so much more than a WK. I went with a crusader too because its got undeniable fire power.
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>>51195977
Corwin Naphtocles
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>>51195608
>>51195482
Shit you're right, this better?
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>>51195897
It's a bit more drastic than that. The prevalence of white, for one. Also, only trueborn have the bone helmets. The regular warriors (as seen in the example kabalite art and in the tiny army shot) have red helmets.

But the biggest change, and the one I'm most referring to, and the one that relates most to the strangely armored eldar in the Cadia thing, is the addition of turquoise splashed in everywhere. - especially the vehicles and any form of cloth. Red and turquoise are the predominate theme of them. White is just a highlight.
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>>51196156

Yea, that's kinda shitty, actually.

At least WK are more of a MC than Riptides in fluff.
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>>51196162
The psyker is missing it's spell familiar so I'd fit that in there by dropping a spawn and give the biker champion a power sword and the sorcerer blight grenades as he'll be with the spawn.
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>>51196091
Agri-world terraformed from a planet scoured by the Hive Fleets, produces chemical/bioweapons and researches dormant Tyranid microorganisms. Considered heretical because of xenos study but they output so much food that they get a pass from the inquisition
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>>51196158
>>51196127
>>51196068
>>51196041
>>51196012
Keep it up, these are all really good!
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>>51196156
>tfw your 650pt LoW is killed by Helfrost
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>>51195424
>>51195457
It could be the autarch Slau Dha of the xenos Cabal organization who fights to destroy the chaos (not to be confused with DE Kabal)
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>>51196205
So wait, how would a forge-agri world even work?
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>>51196235
Maybe a large concentration of Magos Bioligis?
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>>51196045
how's this look?

I kinda dig how he now looks more battle-dirty
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>>51196235
Ordo Biologis engineering food?
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>>51195375
I'm reporting in anon! And with resized pictures as well.
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>>51196265
hard to tell
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>>51196265

It's hard to tell because it's a little blurry, but I like what I can make out.
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>>51196235
We can assume that the entire world's production is automated using servitors, with a contingent of techpriests to keep things running smoothly

I assume they'd get bored after a while, start dicking around with genetic experiments, hybridization, etc. But imagine how much machinery would go into automating an entire planet; there would have to be some serious AdMech presence
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>>51196235
probably one influencing the other, the agriculture and crops they grow providing fuel for the machines they build. or the other direction, being a forge world that builds exclusively farmers tools.
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>>51196285
all I have is a shitty phone camera and no extra light sources(even a flashlight). can't really do much more than shitty, kinda blurry pics.
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>>51195877

Read her saintly blessings mate. Non-Vehicles only
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>>51196284
goddamn thats beautiful
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>>51195977
Grand Magos Jonathan Smithwick.
Lucille Smithwick
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>>51195490

Do you want the 2nd Justicar? If you combat squad your 2 termie squads, you can shave off 10 points right there.
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Anyone here scratch built a titan before? I was posting about making an emperor class earlier but the rules are shit for it so I guess I'll make a Warlord titan. If anyone has any input that would be cool.

Looking at the FW model I think I could make something pretty similar out of conduit fittings, plasticard, some bits and maybe a hacked apart gothic church kit or something and I think it would look pretty nice.
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>>51196304
Well if you follow the base, layer, wash strategy of painting you'll at least end up looking okay.
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>>51195773
I don't see Supa-Kannon listed in the book. Just Kannon, Lobba, and Zzap Gun.

>>51195843
Thanks for pointing that out. I was looking at the Daemon box of the chart by mistake.
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>>51196306

Well shit, I was just looking at the blessing itself. Oh well.
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>>51195523
It seems to him, even the white ribbon on his waist, the gem even in another place has the same color, if it is an old autarch could have made some changes in his dress over time.
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>>51195446
Really? Most I see are grey. I knew Green was common, but I figured I'd take the green a step further and research the closest modern equivalent to the American WWII "Olive Drab". The tanks are my spess Shermans after all! But still, I see your point.

The fact that it's monocolor why I don't use regular chimeras; I use bits and accessories to make them "mine" and convert anything that doesn't have a WWII equivalent into something at least evocative of a period vehicle. (Such as an LVT-A)

But these are all justifications and excuses. The real difference between my regiment and any other is the removable hull-point tokens in the rear of the vehicle. Balancing dice is for nerds!
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So I'm really new to 40k. I went out and got my self paints and a primer for a set of IG cadians, just the $10 box of like 5. I've been using Duncan as a reference for how to paint them.
Where should I start lore wise? With the IG codex? Any books I need to read? Is there a good starting point to understand what the hell is going on?
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>>51196211
>1 weapon from 1 army that isn't even popular
>any lucky shot from any weapon that can penetrate the armour

>>51196193
I'll never get booty blasted to the point where I refuse to play against something or act like a jackass to the person for using something, but I will come online and bitch to an anonymous forum.
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>>51196304

I have a shitty phone camera, too. You'd be amazed what you can pull off with the right backdrop. This dude is standing inside a HH box lid.
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>>51196306
>can give Azrael IWND
>Azrael isn't a LoW choice
>none of the Dark Angels are

But she an be the sole HQ in a Dark Angels CAD, so all is forgiven(?).
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>>51195977
Jebediah Bamboblius
Jezediah Bamboblius
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>>51196291
So basically, huge farms ran by Servitors produce vast amounts of food, along with farming tools. This gives the ruling tech priests pretty much unlimited free time to practice their work?
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>>51196368
they look a hell of a lot better than my first attempts, I'll tell you that.

my first attempts I wasn't really aware of 'thinning', and when I was told to get a thinner later I thought they meant actual paint thinner, so my paints got chunky and didn't apply at ALL, resulting in... well...
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>>51196414
Pirate the rulebook, read the background, it's really fucking good. Pick a faction that interests you and pirate the codex.

Don't start selling kidneys to geedubs before you know what you want. Once you are sure, grab a codex. Most clubs don't mind pirated rulebooks but people will hate you for not having hardprinted codexes.

I haven't brought a started set for a while but I remember the Battle for Macragge set came with a rulebook minus the fluff and they got sold for 20 bucks on ebay, if they still include those you could look into that.

>>51196459
Mate sort your camera out jesus christ. I have a potato phone and it takes semi decent photos.
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>>51195977
Gaius Julius
Julia
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>They will never make Orks op as shit
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>>51195896
Tabletop quality.

Thin down the metalics slightly from now on, and get another color on the rifle's bullet/things in the rotory magazine. Normally I recommend brass, but you might want to try blue for more contrasting detail.

Take some sand paper to your base's sides, so it doesn't look so messy. Ideally the terrain should stop right at the edge and not flow over it. Then, to distinguish one squad from another during gameplay (If two squads of the same type take losses while near each other you might lose track of which model belongs to which squad.) I recommend different bands around the base sides. Orange for one squad, blue for another, brown, cream, silver, black.
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>>51196485

The best base point for lore is the BRB that you should pirate from the sticky.
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>>51196379
Supa Kannon is from IA:8. It's Primary Weapon 1 instead of Ordnance.

However, it takes up most if not all the transport capacity on a BW--I think you only have like 8 left, which is cool since Gitz aren't Bulky iirc.
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>>51196485
my phone barely works at this point. no flash, the speakers are going on it, and trying to run more intensive apps like pokemon go makes it overheat and crash, and the camera doesn't even work with any apps.
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>>51196425
But Azrael is a LoW choice like Papa Smurf?
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>>51196489
Nigga we don't want to be OP--we just don't want to have Cruddace shitting on the fluff and making our rules more complex in order to nerf the army.
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>>51195896
Looks nice, good to see non-red skitarii. Drybrush a lighter grey on that base and I would be more than happy to field that.
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Well I wonder what GW is going to do with the IG line now that Cadians are officially squatted.

I mean sure theres still a lot of cadians left but don't you think They'd up and rally to take back Cadia in force or face extinction?

Violet devil eyed bastards, I'm going to miss you.
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>>51196516

Honestly, lighting is probably your worst enemy at this point. Get a lamp or something. You'll take better pictures with controlled light and will paint better models because you can actually SEE what you're painting.
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Imagine if a warboss could get a 3++
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>>51196453
Exactly

Maybe they don't even know that the world was nommed, they just had an order to terraform this lifeless rock, so they're experimenting on nids without knowing what they really are
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>>51196536
>tfw new cadia
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>>51196538
that is lamplight.

but yeah, I'm thinking tomorrow I'm going to go and get a table lamp to sit over my monitor.

I can see clearly and brightly, but trying to take pics or going on cam looks absolutely terrible.
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>>51196549
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>>51196516
>Pokemon Go

Fucking normies get out REEEEEEEEE

>>51196536
>Take Cadia back

M8 it exploded
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>>51196549

Honestly, invulnerable saves should max at 4++ across all armies, but at the same time the volume of High S low AP weapons should be lessened. A space Marine in the open shouldn't be considered vulnerable, and Terminators shouldn't be considered squishy without a 3++ save.
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anyone have the scans of the castellan formation that were posted a few days ago?
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>>51196488
>>51195944
Eh, works for me.
Gaius Julius, farther of Inquisitor Julia Julius, viseer of Vanquisar. Now, dubs decides what our Forgeworld's tactics are.
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The Eye of Terror looks beautiful. Why do you guys want to get rid of such a place of natural wonder?
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>>51196529
But not in her own detachments. In fact, none of the LoWs in her detachments work with her LoW Saintly Blessing.
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How do we fix this titan lads? I want all that dakka but the hull points are pretty shit.
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There hasnt been a codex update in over a year

If they're going to overhaul this piece of shit they should hurry up with it.
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>>51196599

There's a scan dump somewhere in this thread or the last.
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I have an urgent to run an an army with an unreasonable amount of plasma regardless of the stupid point cost. Is there a good choice for this?

>inb4 Dark Angels who are fluffed for plasma use but get no bonuses to do so.
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So how much better would KFFs be if they let you take more than one Invulnerable save if you in range of two?

Like being in range of a Big Mek with the Mega Force Field and a Morkanaut with a Kustom Force Field let you have a 5++ AND a 3++ you could roll against any shooting attack.
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>>51196627
Tempestus Scions.
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>>51196601
Tactics are Titan Legions with heavy artillery attachments
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>>51196618
>There hasnt been a codex update in over a year
And yet, how many fucking supplements?
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>>51196627

Tau suits
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>>51196617
It will never be updated since the Warlord is officially the largest model they will ever make.

Just go buy a Warlord.
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>>51196414
Okay. You want the IG Codex for sure. You can also check out the series about the Guant's Ghosts, The Last Chancers, and of course CIAPHAS CAIN: BASTION OF GOOD WRITING! and if your a treadhead go ahead and try the Baneblade series because its free in the Mega link.

Here's how you do Imperial Guard:

Build a 500 points list.
Buy 500 points of models.
Paint the models.
Play the models.
Build a 1000 points list.
Buy 500 more points of models.
...and so on. This will limit your spending to how quickly you can paint. By tying the expansion of your army to your work ethic you prevent yourself from blowing too much cash on any army. So if your not liking the game style, you can back out early and try again without loosing 3 paychecks' worth of money.
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>>51195375
Mechanized kriegfag reporting.
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>>51196627
>Dark Angels who are fluffed for plasma
Only because, as the first legion, they got first dibs on all the plasma swag before the heresy.

They don't have any special affinity for the stuff.
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>>51196536
I remember when you disbelieved that Cadia was going to fall. Ah...good times.

There are like 2 million Cadians left. Not a big enough genetic pool for a stable population. Expect a lot of inbreeding. But realistically with no planet of their own, the wider population of the Imperium are going fuck/breed the Cadians out of existence.

Catachans, Modrians, Steel Legion, etc screw the Cadians to death. Before long the Cadians will be a genetic footnote in the Imperium.
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>>51196601
If they're an agri world, maybe their Skitarii aren't so much beep-boops as much as gene-engineered dudes with all the BIOLOGYâ„¢.
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>>51196633
I'm an ork player and that sounds fucking game breaking

MFF is a 4++
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>>51196644
Mother fuckers, whats up with this thread tonight? So, Titans and Artillery...Trips for why we go to war.
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>>51196644
well fuck. I suppose we should try and decide on some titan names at least.
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>>51196419
Knights are super heavies, they won't die to a single explodes result.
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>>51196536
MAKE VALLAHAN AND VOSTROYAN PLASTICS MAKE VALLAHAN AND VOSTROYAN PLASTICSMAKE VALLAHAN AND VOSTROYAN PLASTICSMAKE VALLAHAN AND VOSTROYAN PLASTICSMAKE VALLAHAN AND VOSTROYAN PLASTICSMAKE VALLAHAN AND VOSTROYAN PLASTICS
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>>51196635
Any reason why Scions?
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>>51196617
36 is a bit low but not unworkable.
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>>51196702

I'd make sense though given you could (in theory) be behind two at the same time.

Kind of like overlapping Void Shields or Power Fields.
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>>51196681

Hey there, Krieger. The Emperor watches, and if he approves He will Protect.

Now, obviously everyone buys all their Krieg stuff from Forgeworld, but if I were to accidentally be mislead and order from elsewhere, do you have any recommendations?
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>>51196715
I have felt your message in my bones before. All I want is some valhallan plastics. But all we can do is have patience.
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>>51196536
It's annoying but I'm sure they'll tell us all about how the Cadians are now the first ever spaceborn regiment, meaning everyone is now born on massive battleships and train there all their lives to fight in the name of their lost world blah, blah, etc, etc typical grimdark but can't kill off a faction completely storytelling.
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>>51196662
>Xeno plasma
It's like you hate S7/AP2
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>>51196715
Valhallans and Tallarns are gone the way of the dinosaur. I could see Vostroyan and Catachan updates though. Steel legion are too similar to Kriegers so I doubt they will ever get anything.
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>>51196627
guard

>triple plasma vets
>plasma tanks with plasma cannon sponsons
>plasma cannon sentinels
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>THE OMNISSIAH FILLED THE GALAXY WITH MYSTERIES SO THAT WE MIGHT LEARN FROM THEM, COMING STEP BY STEP CLOSER TO HIS PERFECT BEING. TO IGNORE THEM, EVEN IN THE FACE OF WAR, IS HERESY

- Archmagos Belisarius Cawl

What does he mean by this? And why does he always speak in caps?
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>>51196627
Best would be guardsmen. Scions have an order for rerolling, but IG has the relic that gives Preferred Enemy (more rerolling) to all squads within 6". You can also take an ammo dump with a fortification, which allows you to reroll 1's.

Pushing your Gets Hot chance from 1/6 to 1/36 is really freaking useful, let alone all those extra plasma hits that'll come with it naturally.
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>>51196500
thanks for the feedback - is tabletop quality a good thing? :p
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>>51196696
>>51196601
Servitors with heavy farming machinery
Bioweapons
Tyranid allies
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>>51196755

You didn't specify, and they can spam tons of it.

Go with guard then and spam plasma vets and plasma sentinels with Executioners.
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>>51196760
>why does he always speak in caps?

>CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL, UNKNOWLEDGED ONE
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>>51196627
Orks

>5 man Burna squads
>With 3 Meks with s8 plasmaguns for 5pts each
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>>51196779
tabletop quality is a quality that'll last through the battles you fight with your models. display quality will mean they can't be used for a game without a high risk of scratching the paint. generally tabletop quality is the best, if you're planning to actually use the models
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>>51196617
I thought 1 Structure Point = 3 Hull Points?
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>>51196695
2 million from the 850 initially present on the planet. Don't forget that, in typical GW style, Cadian seems to be a major part of the crusade force present as far as the other side of the Galaxy, ie Damocles.
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>>51196805
> 1 plasma hit every turn from a squad well overcosted
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>>51196688
They also got dibs on Terminator armour but they didn't do anything really special there other than having enough for all their Vets.

>>51196695
>2 Million Cadian
Out of the ones on Cadia at the time, sure. Most of the Cadian Guard are spread across the galaxy though.
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>>51196807
oh perfect :p well yes as my first painted model, its naturally the start of an army i want to use on the table
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>>51196832
Dont forget saving that gets hot on a 6+ armour save
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Pictured here are the Cadians. A dead breed long extinct.
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>>51196843
yes, good, tabletop quality is a good middleground between perfection of painting and perfection of paint resilience.
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>>51196759
Oh, good point.
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>>51196695
2 Million? HA! The Blue Whale in it's prime was way less than 1 million members, and some scientists have calculated the minimum necessary human members to remain genetically viable is under 200.
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>>51196865
Im glad their art has gotten better.
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>>51196742
Ebay is pretty valid, you just need to be a bit scummy and snipe the right auctions, for chinaman i dont know, you need to find someone who knows the email, its worst than a secret society.
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>>51196819
>850 million initially present on the planet
Why the hell is that number so small? There are almost x2 more Chinese people in China today in 2017 than there were Cadians over their entire planet, in all of their fortresses, a garrison tempered and tested by 12 black crusades before it and untold chaos incursions. They knew what they must defend against, yet they couldn't even breech 1 billion in a planet where every man and woman is a trained soldier?

It's bad enough Cadians fight 90% of the battles for the IG, but with this fluff, there's no way for their homeworld to sustain any part of that.
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>>51196893
its pretty easy to find the emails, the big problem (for me at least) is that you have to use paypal
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>>51196840
>>51196819
Like I said, without a set home, the Cadians will be bred out of existence. Literally dissolved into the masses of the Imperium.

Requesting a picture of a Cadian white shield being surrounded by muscular and amorous Catachan amazons with the caption "Poor little Cadian".
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>>51196902
>Why the hell is that number so small?
they sent the remaining several trillion off-world
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>>51196703
to remove gaul, or the 40k equivalent of gaul.
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>>51196902
>Why the hell is that number so small?

Is it explicit that thats the entirety of the Cadian forces? Because those 850 million could be the garrison of the last city that is making the last stand.
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>>51196902
GW and the number anon.

I mean, sometime the force involved in a entire Crusade are numerically less important than some Soviet Front during WW2.
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>>51196902
>Why the hell is that number so small?

Because most of them died? The book has the Cadians fighting on the last fortress in the planet with Chaos overruning everywhere else.
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Wait so is there any way Cadia will be saved or...?

What's gonna happen to the IG now that 90% of it is fucked?
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>>51196974
maybe they will finally replace the 15 year old cadian kit
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>>51196731
you can carry 2 special weapons per squad without increasing squad size (so 2/5 guns are plasma) and the command squad can be all plasma. take a cad, load it up, and put missile launchers on all the trucks. it's not an amazing list, but it's not bad either.
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>>51196974
I'd suggest going and reading more fluff so you understand the setting a little better.
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>>51196902
GW hasn't learned to add three zeros behind all their numbers for population yet.

That or the other 75% of the Cadian Genepool are dying elsewhere in the galaxy.

>>51196920
And they can't settle a new planet why? They are still well past the minimum to prevent inbreeding mutations and with the Eye expanding it's not like staying close enough to maintain their violet irises is a problem.
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>>51196974
cadia is not 90% of the IG. and even if Cadia is fucked, the surviving regiments, and the surviving IG, will fight on. As they've always done, and they will keep doing.
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>>51196953
.>>51196945

This number date back from a few years. CSM codex 3rd ed, according to lexicanum


>>51196902
Back in the days, GW was at least trying to do as if IG was a diversified force.
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>>51196871
Guard are the perfect plasma throwers.
>Mentioned Vets with triple plasma
>Company Command Squad can take 4 Plasma
>All Commissars can take Plasma Pistols
>Plasma Sentinels Mentioned
>Executioner
>PASK Executioner -Reroll gets hot on himself and co-tank, plus give you a plasma large-blast!
>Mecharus Omega from FW: 7" Str. 9 Plasma Blast for the ultimate LOOOOOLZ!
>Stormblade Baneblade Variant. APOCALYPTIC PLASMA BLASTS MOTHERFUCKERS!
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What is that look trying to convey, /tg/?
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>>51197015
That sounds....hot.
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>>51197019
Is that Vulkan?
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>>51197019
Disappointment.
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>>51196974
You are mistaken. Cadians fight 90% of the battles of the IG. However, they make up less than 0.001% of the entire IG. With their homeworld gone, GW could perhaps start showcasing one of the literally millions of other guardsmen regiments.

But they won't. It'll be the same 7 doing 99.9999% of the battles, and Cadians will still be doing 90% of it themselves, with whatever new fluff follows this.
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>>51197019
Eldar on a Tombworld?
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>>51196902

They could have evacuated the planet at the first signs of the Crusade or as cities fell gradually.
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>>51197065
they'll just replace cadia with some other world that uses the same armor as cadia, since its pretty mass produced
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>>51196920
By that logic, shouldn't the Jewish Diaspora disappeared by now? Not to bring in politics, but Jews typically spent most of the past 10 or so centuries scattered among populations of non-jewish countries. So apparently small ethnic groups can survive among larger host groups without being "bred out of existence".
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>>51197012
Guardsmen come in all shapes and sizes (but only if you don't have boobs, no boobs allowed, too hard to model)
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>>51197095
The 850 million figure was given long before Fall of Cadia went to print. Fall of Cadia only reaffirmed it.
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>>51197012
>This number date back from a few years. CSM codex 3rd ed, according to lexicanum

The the 850 million is probably the remaining Cadians that have garrisoned in the last Kasr that hasnt fallen to Chaos.
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>>51197111
Jews have strict breeding laws and they breed within each other ( lot of inbreeding). You aren't considered a Jew unless you mother is one.

The Cadians and Imperials don't have laws or religious teachings about racial breeding.
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>>51197124
Boobs are hidden under flak, long hair is too easy for any enemy to grab and use against you.

Basically you could have an all female regiment and other than wider hips there would be no easy way to notice at a distance.
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>>51197141
Why are you quoting the part that is refuting your guess?
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>>51195402

>Kans

Kans are bad in general. If you're determined to use them, put Grotzookas on them. Despite their BS3, Rokkits are a poor choice for them, and Big Shootas are laughable.

>Dreads

3 Klaws and 1 Skorcha is the way to use them. Don't expect a huge amount from them; they typically won't make it across the board, and even if they do, >I2

>Boyz

why.jpg. Boyz are bad choices at the best of times. I figure you'll be shoving them in the Wagons, but they really won't achieve anything that Grots won't.

>Wagons

Red Paint Job is utterly pointless. Never take it. Ram is mandatory. Honestly I tend to run them with a Killkannon when I take them at all, and just run them as a suicide unit that puts out 1, maybe 2 pie-plates before exploding.

>Mek and Boyz on Bikes

These are solid choices, and I suspect your plan is to run them just behind the Kan wall giving cover to your Walkers. The trouble is the limitations of the KFF; ever since the new codex nerfed it down to models, not units, within 6", KFFs have gotten much worse. Coupled to that is the fact that you can often expect to meet high strength, low AP templates nowdays, so bunching up your walkers becomes a suicidal tactic against some armies.

>Mek Gunz

These are always a great choice. I do rate Lobbas quite highly; they're versatile, cheap and effective. I'd squeeze in some Kustom Mega Kannons personally for ranged Ap2, and even some plain Kannons for ranged Ap3.
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>>51197141
It would be a logical explaination to such a low number, but as stated GW pretty sux a giving credible number given the scale of universe (as said, crusades fighting over multiple planetary systems with only MILLIONS of guardmen), so I guess it's the total planetary minus the regiment fighting off world. Which realistically should'nt be that numerous given how hot is the Eye of Terror warzone.
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>>51197158
It'd take hundreds, if not thousands, of years to completely integrate populations to where you couldn't distinguish them from each other.
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>>51197141
850 million is the number given of Cadia's garrison before the 13th Black Crusade - not most of the way through it. And only 71.75% of that 850M were soldiers.
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>>51197159
f you count the RPGs as canon, as some anons are wont to do, than the IG, like Sisters, has boobplate.
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Can someone tell the techpriests that standing on lava is illogical.
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>>51197181

>why.jpg. Boyz are bad choices at the best of times

Just to give them some use with a transport that isn't AV10.

Despite their issues, I notice they can do pretty well if you can actually get them where they need to be.
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>>51197159
It's the faces that are the problem. Thanks Victoria Miniatures!
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>>51196989
The day eBay floods with old Cadians for dirt cheap will be the best day of my life.
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>>51197227
I'm here to investigate why this lava is so cold. Seriously my robes should be on fire right now!
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>>51197227
>illogical
According to White Dwarf there are dedicated servitors which follow Cawl around placing techno-knowledge books beneath his feet so he can walk on them to show how he has mastery over technology.
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My god, the eyes! The EYES!
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>>51197227
It isn't when you have CEREMITE LEGS!
Though the dragoons look cool and nothing like giant flamingos with those arms.
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>>51196912
I can imagine, thats why i prefer ebay.
>can pay with more stuff
>most of the time is legit fw at the same price of china
>shorter delivery times

the drawbacks is that the postage usually is a problem and that you need a lot of patience.


for the paypal, just make a card, i think its pretty easy.
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>>51197255
>Mastery over technology
>Still can't make functional plasma weapons
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>>51197253
what will happen if the new guard models are fantastic and you must have them
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>>51197219
That's silly.

You're silly anon.
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>>51195466
Of the several concurrent BT crusades that are ongoing, half of the Cadia crusade was killed. Half. Of one crusade.

We aren't getting squatted.
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>>51197263
>Holy saint of the Imperium
>Not blonde with blue eyes

You had one job, GW, one job.
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>>51197269
No, they're supposed to explode.
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So I just found out theres a new Primarchs novel about Magnus just released. Do we know what its about yet?

Im hoping its to fix all the continuity fuck ups and give a 'correct' representation of Magnus's warning and the Emperors response either sending Russ or Horus changing the orders.

I know it wont though.
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>>51197274
I'll admit that's probably what will happen. Fucking plastic crack.

>>51197284
>"""""Design feature""""
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>>51196760
He's old as balls, he probably has hearing problems.
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so, looking at the castellan formation, the henchmen warband HAS to be from the inquisition book. if i take the coteaz from the Imperial Agents book for ObSec, can he still start in a dedicated transport with the henchman warband from the inquisition book?
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>>51197230
No, the only thing they've got going for them is how cheap they are.

Just take lots of 10 man shoota squads, no special weapons or transports, take a nob but don't give him anything more than maybe a big choppa.

Run them in front of your walkers as a meat wall, use them to eat overwatch and then sit the last few remaining guys on an objective.
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>>51197284
If it isn't randomly burning your troops alive then you simply need to adjust the limiter to give it more juice.
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>>51197308
>lethal malfunctions are the Omnissiah's way of weeding out the weak and unworthy
>AVE MACHINA
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>>51197308
>Good news everyone we made S7 Plasma Weapons not explode!
>Ok can you make them S8?
>Yeah but they will explode again
>Lol do it
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>>51196703
Interest in reverse-engineering Xenos technology.
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>>51197293
They are both part of the same faction, so yes, they should be.

On a side note, what you (and so many others) forget about the inquisitorial henchmen unit is that it only exists in the inquisition book. IA doesn't have a henchmen unit - it has an acolyte unit (and acolytes only) and a henchmen formation that combines acolytes with the units that made up the I codex henchmen unit.

For some reason, I constantly see people claiming you can take the I codex henchmen unit in place of the acolyte unit in the IA henchmen formation. You can't. Similarly here, the henchmen unit isn't "HAS to be from the inquisition book"; it only EXISTS in the inquisition book.
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>>51197340
>kustommegablasta.jpg
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Thought you might appreciate this thread. Fresh from one of the drawthreads.
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>>51197219
>, than the IG, like Sisters, has boobplate.
not really, at least for the cadians
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>>51197345
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>>51197371
Odd, the cover of the core book has boobplate.

>bandages on her hand
She passed her 6+.
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>>51197181
While you're giving strategy advice for Orks, what do you think of weirdboyz?
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>>51196876
ikr there have been fewer human beings than that several times in history. Entire continents with no human beings on them natively, have been colonized by groups way smaller than 2 million.
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Can GW ever ever make women that can be looked at without wanting to gouge youe eyes out?
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>>51197339
>>51197340
After I'm done with my Space Sherman army I might do a penal legion built around plasma. Thinking orange uniforms and stripes on tanks, everyone gets plasma, commissars represented by Ogryn (Because toughest, bravest, angriest and stupidest prisoners are naturally promoted!)

Basically take all of these >>51197015

Lore: We gave the penal legion all our plasma and sent them ahead. My old space sherman army walks a few miles behind them and salvages the dropped plasma weapons from the burning corpses, techpriests repair the gutted tanks, and we give the 'refurbished' weapons to the next penal legion.
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>>51197406
no
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>>51197371
I'm going to agree with >>51197385.
>the cover of the core book has boobplate.
The RPGs core book cover is thus.
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>>51197425
That's some dank art tho.
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>>51197370
As a collector of those things, i love it.
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>>51197406
Isn't that the point of greyfax? She's oppressing your eyes.
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>>51197371
Wait...is she balancing a live plasma gun on her shoulder, upside down, WITH THE WHITE HOT RADIATOR INCHES FROM HER NECK?

She is not passing her next gets hot roll!
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These are the Black Templar. The events of FoC proved them to be manginas white knights who follow Celestine around like dogs.
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>>51197406
Yes, but they are all non-human.
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>>51197385
5+. We're not orks, bro!
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>>51197406
>everything is horrible: the setting
>expecting all the women to look hot
All those female knights and Titan Princeps are going to look like they're past their 50s too
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>>51197474
Even better, then!
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>>51197469
I don't understand how following an Imperial saint makes them pussies. Her faith inspired them to greater feats of heroism and swept them up into a greater religious fervor. It's cool to me.
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>>51197406

>model is a qt
>artwork is a stern old lady

what did GW mean by this
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>>51197509
She is a witch!

They should have the same point view Creed and Greyfax have of Celestine.
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Where are the Eldar taking them?

What was the secret relic in Cawl's ship that gor Abaddon so worked up that he had to chase them in the first place?

Who is the red guy?
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>>51197019
>his equine feature
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>>51197518
She's a manifestation of the Emperor's will.
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>>51197124
all models male tho
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>>51197012
"it’s not a phase commissar, this is who I really am"
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>>51197553
Or so she claims.
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>>51197564
stop assuming their gender :^)
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>>51197227
The real question is why those Ballistari have servo arms
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>>51197545
It looks more like a Dark Eldar than Craftworld scum, so probably to the arena
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>>51197513
in this artwork she's quite a qt: >>51197545


i think the one who made that pic just has a fetish for old hags, seeing how he made celestine
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>>51197578
I know right? I mean come on it's 999.M41
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>>51197269
why make a plasma gun safe, when you can make it fire a triple burst :D plasma cavliers ftw

>>51197266
>>for the paypal, just make a card, i think its pretty easy.
I can't, it won't accept my card for some reason - to the point where i might change banks just to get it to work
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>>51195288
>"The Templars are getting wiped out! They're being squatted!"
>FoC includes artwork showing hundreds of them getting to safety in the Webway
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>Had this been a simple contest of arms, the Imperium might have had confidence in Cadia’s defences. But Abaddon’s weapons were not limited to mortal means. The blessings of the Dark Gods were upon him, and their talents his to command. Plague devoured fortresses before a shot could be fired. Madness claimed the devout and the profane alike. And betrayal – the false promises whispered by prophets of damnation – this was the mightiest card in the Despoiler’s hand. As heresy spread, brother fought brother. Regiments were torn apart from within, or purged with fire. Bastions, though secure from invaders, collapsed into infighting as the righteous vied with the corrupt.

>Yet it was from one such betrayal that hope blossomed anew. When a cataclysmic act of treachery saw the slaughter of the Cadian High Command at Tyrok Fields, Ursarkar Creed – commander of the famed Cadian 8th – took up the role of Lord Castellan, and shouldered the burden of directing Cadia’s embattled forces. Creed’s rise altered the course of the conflict. His cold, calculating demeanour commanded the respect of common-born soldiers, the war-tempered brotherhoods of the Adeptus Astartes and even, it is said, of the xenos forces rumoured to have played some part in Cadia’s defence.

What xenos forces?
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>>51197371
>>51197425
>>51197159

boobs should be hidden under flak desu, but that doesn't mean that a male guard model would look identical to a female one.

What gets me the most is that because dawn of war had female guards in it, tabletop simulator has female guards, but there are no fucking models argh
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>>51197685
dawn of war doesnt have female guards, thats from a mod.
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>>51197676
>Alright Trazyn shut the fuck up, Creed is running the show now.
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>>51197704
I know, but because they are in a mod, they can (and have been) uploaded to tabletop simulator
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>>51197389

Only time I use them is when I run a Green Tide and I roll on Sanctic Daemonology to get Hammerhand and/or Sanctuary. Otherwise I don't see much of a point in them. The trouble with the psychic phase right now is that if you go up against someone who has focused on it, like a Daemon or Eldar player, you might as well not have bothered to take a psyker.

>>51197230
>Just to give them some use with a transport that isn't AV10.

The only transport outside of Forgeworld that really works for that is the Battlewagon, which means you're investing more than 100 points in delivering a unit that doesn't do much when it actually gets to combat. Even 20 Boyz will typically bounce off the average unit that actually is giving you trouble.

>>51196549

>Imagine if a warboss could get a 3++

He can. Just take Celestine in your Ork army, which lets your Warboss take Desvalle's Holy Circle for a 4++. Then it's just a matter of taking a Weirdboy rolling on Sanctic Daemonology for +1 to Invul saves. Boom, 3++ on a Warboss.
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>>51197578
>>51197603
i know you're both being low effort trolls, but fukkin gender is 2 things mate, how others see you, and how you see yourself - and since these are plastic models we talkin bout, its only about how we gender em, and im lookin at my fukkin IG right now, and i dont see any that would ever be mistaken as anything but gruff manly men

-all my guards are gay tho, they come from a gay world where yanno, its like promoted within their regiment - makes em fight harder :)
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>With the discovery of the Golden Throne's deteriorating state, a dozen contingency expeditions have been launched by the Cult Mechanicus, including a Xanthite war procession of the Inquisition sent through the Exhubris Portal into the Webway. The Xanthites fought through Harlequin troupes and daemon hordes alike before reaching their intended destination. In the grave-cold oubliettes of the Haemonculi beneath the Dark Eldar city of Commorragh, a sinister bargain was struck.

So... Are the Dark Eldar going to patch up big e or what?
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>>51197815
Yeah, nothing like having 7 warp charges to your opponents 24
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>>51197884
Rather old news, but hey they might help.
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>>51197884
nah once cadia falls, that gate in commorragh is gonna bust open and there will be daemons all over the place
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>>51197869
That's nice, but I'm just in it for the memes
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>>51197957
>Vect is using the retreating Imperials in Commarragh to fight daemons
JUST
AS
PLANNED
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Oh Celestine, forgetting how to use your faith.
Unless I'm missing something from all the leaks, if she joins sisters of battle squads, no acts of faith?

Wonder when it's going to be on the mega
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>>51197815
>you might as well not have bothered to take a psyker.
Okay, don't take something that can be countered on a whim. Sounds reasonable.

Next question: which formation/detachment whatever is the best between the two The Great Waaagh's and the CAD. I can't quite figure out which force organization to use.
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>>51195375

Am I distinctly colored?
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>>51195375
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>>51198103
Looks nice, but upgrade that fucking potato camera.
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>>51195679

Or you can just buy 100s of OOP models on Ebay
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>>51198103
>>51198127
are the krieg being sent to cadia?
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>>51198039

CAD. Or Unbound. Orks are one faction that opponents probably won't object to using Unbound, since we're so low level.

But the detachments from Ghazghkull's supplement are AWFUL. I really cannot stress that enough; there are usable Formations in there, but the Detachments are pure dogshit. The reason is that in exchange for getting 2 extra elite slots (largely useless as the only thing worth taking in there is Meganobz) you get two of the worst special rules ever created. +2 to the Mob Rule table makes getting the best result in close combat, a 1, impossible, and means that unless a mob has 10+ models (i.e. only for Boyz more or less) they'll auto-fail 5 out of 6 times. And as for forcing your Warlord to challenge when Ork characters are some of the worst challengers in the game, no fucking thanks.
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How are the skitarii? they look pretty cool so I might pick up a starter pack + paint regardless, but are they decent ingame?

are there any decent game stores in edinburgh?
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>>51198215
>the only thing worth taking in there is Meganobz
I thought tankbustas were considered one of the good Ork units.
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>>51198186
The other guy is Steel Legion, I'm the Krieger. But yeah, we heard there was a party so we're coming too!
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>>51198276

They were. Until GW put out their FAQ and limited grenades to 1 in close combat, regardless of how many models have them. Tankbusters were good because you could smash them into any vehicle in the game and be reasonably sure of reducing it to a smoking wreck. Now they all stand around with their thumbs up their collective arses.
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>>51198215
Orks leaders really need to be ALOT more survivable if GW won't let them be fast.
They should be 4W base and there should be a thing like chaos where your leader gets a bonus for being devoted to a God.
> (40pts) Gift of Gork: +1WS, +1W, +1S, Fnp4+
> (35pts) Gift of Mork: +1A, +1BS, EW, 5++ invuln
And you could get these on any character or some meme like that, and ghaz would get both

This is just me wishlisting so don't get too salt
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It's down between Sisters (waiting for the plastic that may or may not come out this year... I'll give it until mid-summer before giving up hope) and Nurgle for a second army.

If I go Nurgle, this is the list I want to run and initially build towards.
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Which one should I pick, /tg/?
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>>51198264
Skitarii are mid-tier, but man, they have great stuff. Vanguards are the best troop choice in the game, in my opinion.
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>>51198328
A, and it's not close
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>>51198328
Isn't B just Steel Legion?
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>>51198310

But check out this AMAZING relic! Not only do you get Eternal Warrior for your 3 wound Warboss, but you also get Relentless for all of those non-Assault weapons your Boss has, but also a Feel No Pain that doesn't stack with what a Painboy gives you!

And all for only 50 points! Why would you take anything else?!
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>>51198328
A feels like it will look good on a single model, but B will look better on an army
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>>51198307
That was the worst FAQ and they fucking know it. Why don't they sort it out?

>>51198328
A, B looks heinous, might be alright with a more subtle yellow though.
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>>51198334
Space Elves and Pink Horrors would like a word with you on that.
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>>51198287
they arent the same?
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>>51198347
>Read that fluff
>Fuck yeah that's going to be unstopp-

What the fuck man.
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>>51198334

It was going to be Tau, but those fucking dunecrawlers look so fucking baller.
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>>51198368
>What the fuck man.
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>>51198347
Yeah but that takes you from taking Da Lukky Stikk and it has to be a Ghaz detatchment
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>>51198103
>steel legionfag is still lurking around

there are enough regiments present to start a crusade
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>>51198384
Wait I just figured out that was meant to be a meme

Dear God am I the salty one?
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>>51198355
>That was the worst FAQ and they fucking know it. Why don't they sort it out?

Well they reverted the Jink change that totally fucked up Dark Eldar, presumably because there was a rules developer on the team who actually cares about them. They didn't do the same for Orks presumably because no-one on the team cares about that.

>>51198368

>Fluff says the Ork who got the upgrade was much tougher and could lift much larger weapons than even Meganobz could carry

>Doesn't increase Toughness and Strength

Basically it's on the same level with pic related.
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>>51198355
>>51198342

A wins.

Though this does mean Red Tanks.
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>>51198394
It fucking says its armour and doesn't even give him an armour save because
"Muh ork players need to pay 40 points for a +2 armour save on a now slow ass model designed for melee but still shit there even if it gets there"
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>>51198394
It's not even just orks. My vets that used to I upgrade with demolitionists to get them all melta bombs are fucking useless for tankbusting without meltaguns now.
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>>51198458

I will say though that at least you have the option to give them meltas. The only melta Orks get is...melta bombs.
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>>51198287
>>51198360
no please fucking are Steel Legion the same as Kriegskorp
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>>51198394
Also some math hammer on the Gorkanaut
3d6 dice averages 10.5 shots = 3.5 hits
Lets say optimal target of gormless guardsman standing in the open: 2.9 wounds from the MAIN gun
two twin linked big shootas
6 twin linked hits, roughly 3 hits
Shooting at the same guardmen:
2.7 wounds.
THE FUCKING BIG SHOOTAS ARE WITHIN HALF A WOUND OF THE GATLING GUN
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>start bidding on a bunch of stuff on eBay on the sly, knowing full well that I'll have to do the countdown rush for all of them since nobody seems to be counterbidding
>have to take a flight out of the country exactly when all of the auctions end
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>>51195916
Khorne red and kantor blue
Forgeworld Parshall Secundus
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>>51198552
That's embarrassing.
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>>51198552

Yeah anon but it might generate 18 shots 1 in every 216 times meaning SIX hits! SIX! Think of the carnage SIX Str 6 Ap4 hits could do!
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>>51198558
let it go anon, there will be more ebay bids
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>>51195817

Nah man.. you just have a hardon for Eldar, and refuse to see things as they appear.
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>>51196304

Shitty phone camera....
Just face it, its just you who have a hard time understanding that >>51196285 really works.
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>>51198698
Oh I don't doubt it works.

but as I explained, my phone barely works at all, and I don't really have any extra lighting at all to make it look better.
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>>51198698
Where is that Dreadnought fist from? It looks very neat.
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>>51198729
The Venerable dreadnought kit
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New bread where?
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i'm watching this game of admech vs necrons

'decuryon' necrons seem super fucking bullshit to deal with, they just don't die.
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>>51198808
Welcome
TO DIE

>Jetpack infantry with 3+/4++
>Army wide 4++
:^)
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>>51198808
The +1 to RP is bullshit yeah, but necron's whole shtick is being hard to kill.
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How often do Commisars BLAM people, anyway? Going by Gaunt's Ghosts, the meme is really overdoing it.

Or is Gaunt just softer than most?
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>>51198808
Where you watching it Anon?
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>>51198723

And as I explained, I have an old... Make that really old, I.phone 3 or maybe 4 with a pixel problem.
I literally have to go in paint/ps and remove these small dots by hand, as to not appear having painted purple spots on my backdrop. It also means I have a extremely limited space to actually fit the model in, if I don't want purple spots on it, which makes it very hard to remove.

Just follow the instructions and I guarantee your shitty phone camera will produce just as good photos.

>>51198729

Thanks! Its a regular Venerable Dreadnought from GW with an added sword from an old empire militia kit added.
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>>51198849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abDA02SR5j8

>>51198843
I guess theres RNG to it as well, but jesus.
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Fall of Cadia epub when?
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>>51198846
I like the Elysian Commissar in Dark Disciple. He blams a guy the scene he shows up, and manages to get everyone to laugh just a minute later. He's one of my favorite characters, because he blams cowards, yet is a huge boss.

A shame he dies, but at least he died facing down a Daemon and a horde of cultists.
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>>51198921
He sounds like a good Commissar.
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>Victory seemed assured. Five companies of the Imperial Fists had already departed upon the Crusade of Vengeance, unleashing the righteous fury of Dorn against the fortresses of Medrengard. Three others were scattered across the Segmentum Obscurus on missions of vital import. That left some thirty battle-brothers of the 1st Company, alongside the newly reconstituted and unblooded 3rd, to repel the assault on their beloved sanctum.

Why are the Imperial Fists attacking a daemon world in the Eye of Terror instead of defending Cadia?!
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>>51198941
Oh definitely. Anthony Reynolds is my new favorite BL author.
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So I'm trying to maximize the power of my 750 point Dark Eldar Army.

I figured I'd try and swap out my deep striking hellions for a raider to be loaded with the 95 pt warrior squad.

the other trueborn squads are on the Venoms.

Anyone got ideas to make this loadout better? I have a squad of hellions and a squad of jetbikes as well as more warriors(max 20)
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>>51195496
Either paint up extra bits for your models, maybe scratchbuild some parts, and cut and exchange for originality, or get detail brush and elaborately detail each model uniquely. Personally, when I built my SM's I thought up a personality to each one, and painted them all individually. (Still looked like sh*t, but they were unique and dramatic.)
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>>51198863
admech get 700pts of free upgrades btw with that stupid formation
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Why isn't the new Lord of Change on preorder yet? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEpraiseTzeentchEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>51199040
because you're a fucking idiot
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>>51199040
GW employee at my local was bragging about how he was going to buy two and paint the store one - all i could do is shake my head; does GW always try to employ absolute morons?
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>>51199034
I honestly have no idea how much that impacted the game, I've never played.

I've also just noticed he keeps saying "churn" when he says turn.
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>>51199166
some formations get "free stuff" like that stupid dark angels formations that gets you loads of free razorback tanks, but if you image in a 1850 points game as that version of the skitarii you get basically a larger army, because you can save on upgrades (heavy weapons, special items etc) 700points is a free knight and some free tanks n stuff - it depends how much cheese you cheese out of the cheese sandwich of that bs list
and i play admech skitarii
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Made this based on a comment I saw earlier.
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>>51196514
>Supa Kannon is from IA:8. It's Primary Weapon 1 instead of Ordnance.
It's still ordinance. Learn how to read.
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>>51199210
What is grammar?
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>>51195734
>that feel when you find out Cadia blew up
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>>51199255
It's literally what the comment said. I think it was referencing that comic about the tank crew.
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>>51199282
its literally a miracle that i was able to even get pupils on that model, it was my first time painting any 40k model
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>>51199300
no one will blame you if you didn't anon, eyes are hard to do
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>>51199320
>no one will blame you if you didn't

m8 this is the 40k general. People post quite nice paintjobs and get ripped to shit all the fucking time.
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>>51199320
ive considered fixing them but its grown on me, because he is so silly look with that mustachio as is - super charming, i feel like he is losing his shit about something
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>>51199352
eh, that's 4chan in general. i've gotten shit for posting my models on here but compliments in person and they're tabletop standard at best.

>>51199356
it doesn't look half bad, base it and you're done. if you were gonna push it higher add a wash to the blues
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I want to make a city fight melee guard army. What kind of weapons would a guardsman be equipped with for close combat (in combination with a laspistol) ? I was thinking axe/entrenching tool , chainswords are probably too valuable.
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>>51199383
i have guilleman blue glaze but i think im doing something wrong? I doesn't appear to do anything - I also have no idea what to base it with
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>>51199494
What are you using the glaze for?
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>>51199520
the light on his back, and the glass of the scopes
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>>51199468
Dunno, they seem to throw chainswords all over the place, but yeah, probably something like you said. I would just give them either those shovels that come with the heavy weapons teams, or some sort of batons? that would be easy to model.

Remember to max out flamers/heavy flamers for cityfights.
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>>51199527
You need to paint it over white or silver.
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>>51199546
oh thanks :p
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I was there when 99 named that baneblade. It was glorious. Everytime I see one I'll remember fister sister.
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>>51199555
Be careful how much you use, it darkens after drying. Don't treat it like a wash.
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Hey guys, thinking about getting into a new army, was wondering on what the most balls to the wall unkillable army is outside of a necron decurion?
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>>51199566
what would work as a good blue wash then?
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>>51199576
I am pretty sure GW does make a blue wash.

Or else make your own with a blue of your choice thinned with a 50/50 mix of water and Future Floor Wax
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>>51199576
For GW paints, use Drakenhof Nightshade.

Glazes are NOT washes.
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>>51199558
>fister sister

are you fisted by a sister or fisting a sister?
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migrate whenever idk
>>51199700
>>51199700
>>51199700
>>51199700
>>51199700
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>>51196695
> 2 million
Bitc, as long as you are selectie with who gets to fuck whom 6 people is enough for genetic stability
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>>51195424

>Autarch

Bullshit. He has incubi armour with aspect elements meaning there is literally ONE person it could be. Why is /tg/ so trash at xenos lore? This is a really obvious hint. Think: what figures are of central importance to Rhana Dandra and which one would have a mix of Aspect/Commorite design in their armour?
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>>51197469
>taking issue with this and not abandoning nu-black templar when they decided only xeno psykers were bad psykers
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>>51196759
Don't forget tech priests with a bunch of plasma servitors that can get the order to ignore cover
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>>51196695
>not a big enough genetic pool for a stable population
Humanity IRL dropped under 50,000 for a while and we're still here.
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>>51195424
remember that time ahra/Drazhar dueled Karandras but lost got so mad and killed his followers? good times
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>>51198215
No matter how you think about it that rule should have given people -2 on the Mob Rule table.

I don't understand how a company that occasionally puts out passable rules can come up with something like this.
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>>51198873
This.
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>>51200308
>>51198873

Has it been officially released yet ?
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