Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1278: Browning Out Edition

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So I promised a few drawbacks and made them as a warm-up.

What A Weasel [+100] - Well this is...annoying. A side effect of you entering the world the way you did is that you’re now a tiny white weasel-thing with floppy ears, looking almost identical to Kyubey or a member of his race. Your other abilities still work just fine, but any attempts to look different or remove this form just don’t work. Expect people to have trouble taking you seriously...or pinning Kyubey’s many, many swindled wishes on you. You may keep this as an altform, post-jump, if you wish.

You Little Bastard! [+200] - Kyubey considers the current system of magic and Wraith-killing to be far too inefficient for his kind’s taste, and the ineffable Law of Cycles both a mystery and a drastic limitation on what he could possibly obtain to save the universe. Lucky him, then, that he detected your arrival and figures out what you are minutes after the jump begins. He will identify you explicitly as ‘The Jumper’ to anyone who asks, too, which can be a shock for anyone close to your background.

The good news is that he’s content to just observe you and constantly pester you with questions regarding your adventures...at least, at first. The bad news is that he will be taking notes on things regarding your Warehouse, and any technology or magic that you use from outside this world. He will also regularly direct Wraiths and strong Magical Girls to combat you, wanting to see as much of your ‘potential’ as possible. And no matter what, whatever ‘solution’ he comes up with using your copied (or at least ‘inspired by’) repertoire always seems to turn out bad for everyone, you especially. What’s worse? Any attempts to permanently kill him or render his race extinct or non-functional will fail. If you keep the outside context things hidden or display as little as possible, he won’t have much to work with...but do you really want to rely on the ‘gifts’ of the Incubator during your time here?

>>51131634
Hexed [+200] - Although the mission statement of Magical Girls is to bring hope, in practice, it just boils down to ‘kill Wraiths’ with enough regularity to keep on surviving. Still, mental stability does an excellent job of adding to a Magical Girl’s life span, so it’s very rare to see one who’s genuinely insane or evil. Unfortunately for you, this is one of the exceptions.

This Magical Girl is a psychopath, pure and simple, a serial killer in the making...or already in progress, thanks to their newfound powers. They’re strong enough to survive in territory where almost everyone wants them dead, and unpredictable and violent enough to be a problem as far as everyone in the city is concerned. Finally, they’ve decided that killing YOU personally is a great time for them. Their insanity and craving for violence is enough that despair or disappearing into the Law of Cycles just doesn’t seem to take - something that mystifies Kyubey.

You must contend with this hostile Magical Girl who wants to fight you and see you dead at any cost. Attempts at diplomacy are just asking for trouble at the most. Should you strike them down, they will vanish and come back the following week, good as new and just a little more ferocious. How vexing.

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So what jumps would you like to see but don't know/can't be bothered to make?

>>51131671
Fables.

>>51131652
How strong is this rogue magical girl? Is there a way to permanently kill them off? What if I hurled them into space?

>>51131671
It'd be cool to see a Devilman jump, but I don't know how you could pull that off.

>>51131376
Let's use the 5th war as an example
Kotomine (1.5 servants): Crazy priest with exceptional power. Likes mapo tofu. Kill him only if you prefer curry over mapo tofu.
Sakura (1 servant): Worm slut with a lesser grail in her body. Kill her in any route.
Shinji (0 Servant): He's a disgusting human but that doesn't mean he deserves death. Just use illusion magic or Tsukuyomi to make him want to be a better person. If you stupidly let Sakura live then she'll sort him out once the timelines converge.
Tohsaka (1 servant): Do what you wish.
Ilya (1 servant): If you can make her see the way of good, or help Shirou through the 4th route then she's better off alive.
Souichirou (1 servant): Other than being an assassin he's a decent school teacher, better off left alive.
Medea (0.5 servant): If you can make her express her love without the need to be crazy or take the mana from innocent civilians then she's fine, if not she's better off dead.
Zouken (1 servant): Almost impossible to kill, just hope you aren't in the route he gets True Assassin. If you let Sakura live then she'll also sort him out once the timelines converge.
Shirou: He has Avalon inside of him. If you have the Overlord perk that lets you use any magical item, kill him and take it for yourself.

Or you could just kill them all since it's easier to kill the majority of them than it is to kill their servants.

>>51131671
Chivalry of a failed knight would be nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXseJt5swoE&t=122s

>>51131751
>Zouken
He didn't show up in the anime, is it because the worms would be hard on the censors?

>>51131671
Pandora Hearts

>>51131198
>Do you want your mecha to get tentacle raped that bad?
I just want to waifu Beatrix.

>>51131671
Zelazny's Prince of Ambers. No idea how it would work.

>>51131826
>Pandora Hearts
Why do you want to suffer anon?

>>51131824
Pretty much but it's mainly because he's in the Heaven's Feel route where Sakura shows off her true power, and has worm sex with Shirou. Wait for the movies if you haven't played the game.

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>>51131671

>>51131824
Zouken doesn't really do anything of note in UBW, and they showed him giving lessons to young Sakura in /Zero, so probably not a censor thing.

>>51131751
>Sakura (1 servant): Worm slut with a lesser grail in her body. Kill her in any route.
Not to knowledgeable on this one, why isn't she salvageable?

>>51131899
She's fine. Hard to keep sane, but fine overall. Just throw her at shirou and she'll generally be good.

>>51131899
Well, it's partially because of a meme but she's incredibly manipulative, will do anything to further her goals and has been known to use the lesser grail inside of her to access the power of Angra Mainyu to become Dark Sakura, who is powerful enough to corrupt all but one servant (Gilgamesh, whom she kills because his willpower wouldn't allow him to be corrupted) and shows off her true, evil personality.

Like >>51131927 says, if she has a "willing" Shirou that hasn't been mentally broken then she's fine but it's a slippery slope that she can fall down at any time.

>>51131899
She is, it's just...she's been through some shit, anon. Between having worms crawling inside her, being raped, and having a fragment of All the World's Evils inside her, it's a challenge to keep her from snapping. And when she DOES snap...well, see here >>51132006.

>>51131671
The Munchkin card game
Channel Zero
Generic History jump (like living in actual ancient history)
Girl the Wild's
Helck
Etc.

>>51132006
>it's partially because of a meme

Fucking memebots.

Would it be possible to increase the damage done with a Noble Phantasm by just pouring more mana into it?

>>51131899
Her body is infused with worms and grail mud. Even she's 'saved' she's still tainted with all of that and a corrupt mess of a worm succubus monster. It's better she be put down.

>>51131751
>He's a disgusting human but that doesn't mean he deserves death.
If raping your adopted sister every day of her life doesn't deserve death, I don't know what does.

How would Excalibur from the King Arthur jump (Fate version) compare to the noble phantasm?
Are noble phantasms more powerful than the items they are based on?

>>51131671
Battle Moon Wars.

It's fanfic territory and I do not have the encyclopedic knowledge of Nasu physics that Val does, nor do I have the will to attempt it. Would be nice to see, though.

>>51132121
Yes, but it causes the Noble Phantasm to self-destruct afterwards. That's how Shirou/Archer can get equal performance to the originals with their traced copies. They can always just make more. You probably don't have that advantage. Probably, I don't know your build.

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>>51132149

>>51132006
>Meme
But she IS full of worms and she DOES start fucking random people for mana when they start acting up. Worm slut is an accurate label.

>>51131671
CthulhuTech (can't be bothered, too many issues with powerlevels in source material)
Wander over Yonder (I just want 'dat Dominator)
Dragon's Crown (don't know enough)
Liberal Nightmare Dystopia
Conservative Nightmare Dystopia
A Man in the High Castle (but then, there'd be a bunch of drama over Nazis)
Pirates of the Caribbean (don't care enough about pirates, honestly)
Lackadaisy Cats (I just want a 1920's gangster jump, really)
Reign of Fire (no clue for perks)
Darker Than Black (bluh)
Lenore (that /tg/ worldbuilding project from a while ago, wherein 4chan users were transported to a world without civilization, with only 5 minutes warning)
Waterworld (it'd be a great fixit world or place to just sail around)
Desert Punk (I just like post-apoc settings, I guess)

>>51132144
Especially if you're willing to kill the traumatized and corrupted girl who's really not at fault for any of that without question.

It's not like there aren't tons of purification, anti-corruption and mental healing perks in jumpchain.

>>51132159
What if the NP was meant to scale in power to how much mana was put into it?

>>51131671
A Doctor Who's expanded universe jump that doesn't locks the technology with a fiat-backed Doctor.

>>51132161
It's a crossover of Tsukihime and Fate (post Heaven's Feel) with a dash of OC. It's also basically a Nasu version of Super Robot Wars.

>>51131671
The Dark Tower series.
His Dark Materials.
Viewtiful Joe.
RoTK.
Troy.
Papers Please.
Disgaea DLC.

>>51131671
Generic Isekai, I'd be willing to help make it, but not make it myself. I haven't really read enough Isekai to make a generic jump, and I have no real interest in making a jump based on any of the settings I am particularly familiar with. I mean I like Kumo, but the setting is horrible, and I can't imagine making a jump that only has a single correct choice(become an administrator).

>>51132188
Well then it's designed to do that, and would be safe to overcharge. Though you probably could still turn it into a Broken Phantasm if you wanted to, for whatever insane reason.

>>51132185
The bigger issue in Cthulhutech is the two varieties of rape furry, the rape batteries, and the unresistable auto-pregnancy field.

>>51132185
>Dragon's Crown (don't know enough)
...Don't we already have a jump for that?

>>51132185
We have both a Dragon's Crown and a Pirates of the Caribbean jump.

>>51132188
Unless it's EX rank, then it'll have an upper limit. If you overload it it'll still become a broken phantasm.
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Broken_Phantasm#Broken_Phantasm

>>51131848
>Why do you want to suffer anon?
For the waifus.

>>51132212
No, it's a rape generator. The battery is made from miscarriages.

>>51132186
Personally I think you should kill both.

>>51132214
I thought so, too, but when I looked all I found was Dragon's Dogma.

>>51132185
>Pirates of the Caribbean

We've already got that as well.

>>51132192
So... Torchwood?

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>>51132241
Here

>>51132241
Imaged jumps.

>>51132214
We do. Epicure made it.

>>51132185
>nazis
No one cares about a jump having Nazis, as long as it's not JUST Nazis. Hellsing has Millennium, Indiana Jones has a Nazi background, and you can be a Nazi in Hearts of Iron once that comes out. Plus someone's working on a Wolfenstein the New Order Jump. A Man in the High Castle is fine.

>>51132235
Well, that is the expedient solution.
If you have a relevant perk (and some morals left) you should at least try to un-corrupt her first though.

Shinji on the other hand isn't influenced or coerced by anything iirc. He's just an absolutely terrible person.
Killing him isn't murder, it's a favor to humanity.

>>51132127
I think I will try and fix her, failing that I could use another Akuma after I social fu her.

>>51131671
Shadow Hearts
Star Ocean
Breath of Fire
Suikoden
Ogre Battle
Final Fantasy Tactics
Grandia
Xenogears

>>51131671
Eureka
Warehouse 13
His Dark Materials
The Expanse
The Strain
Hellboy (movies or comics, or both)
Westworld
Improbable Island
The Dark Tower
Mortal Engines Quartet

>>51132321
You're basically going to have to burn off massive portions of her soul, anon, including all of her magic circuits.

>>51132262
>>51132264
Thanks! I don't know why I wasn't looking in that folder.

>>51132209
When Konosuba S1 was airing I threw around some ideas for that but it wasn't received that well. I'd be willing to make it but I know it wouldn't be as good as a few separate jumps made on the more popular series.

>>51132186
>>51132292
>>51132321
Unless you can take her soul, unfuse it from all the shit and make her a new body you can't uncorrupt her. Even if you can, you'd still have to basically rebuild her personality from the bottom up. It's easier to make an entirely new person than it would be to fix her.

>>51131671
The Heroic Legend of Arslan. Don't you judge me.
LoZ OoT and HW.
Warlock: Master of the Arcane.
Muramasa: The Demon Blade.
And Gunstar Autochthonia.

>>51132344
>It's easier to make an entirely new person than it would be to fix her.
And still utterly trivial by jumper standards.

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>>51131899
From memory... the black grail within her is housing Angry Man-Guy which is bad, she's been through a lot of mental trauma, has a slightly off-kilter view of things, a tendency to project /and/ repress, and all around is in very poor mental health. She needs many things to be properly saved:
1. The worms out. (A few things could be done here but I recommend at the very least the Franken Fran Surgery tree, for better result maybe the Spiritual Surgery Perk from Samurai Deeper Kyo)
2. The black grail out. (You might be able to just adjust some goal posts with this one by having someone be a Demi-Servant or summoning Angry Man-Guy. Other than that I have little idea what this would take)
3. Mental Stability (Therapy Perks which we need a list of)

>>51132292
Well personally I'd get him a trail and all that first. Off with his head.jpg

>>51131671
Larklight. Ssillissa is best girl.

>>51132344
Spirit Bending from Avatar LoK and Commencing Operation! (Mental) from Franken Fran. Bam. Done.

>>51132344
>Unless you can take her soul, unfuse it from all the shit and make her a new body you can't uncorrupt her.
Well. He did say he'd make her an Akuma.

That involves literally pulling them inside-out and going reshaping their mind, body, and soul. I imagine it's trivially easy to remove the parts of her soul you don't want during the process, and you can reshape the body into whatever you wish...

>>51132440
Just purifying her soul would leave massive holes in her soul and her body, she'd probably die.

>>51131671
The Lazy King. It's a neat setting based on the 7 sins.

>>51132344
Personally I think that a Generic Isekai would work really well, but be a pain in the ass to make, and that anyone really ready to make it could likely make a jump for several series. But there are some series where it would be easier to make a generic than make the jump of that series, worst offender being Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken. In Slime you have something like 6-8 different powers that can steal powers from other people at a high level, most of these are actually owned by the MC.

In the last thread an anon posted a neat trick with the perk granting perk from Imaginary Friend. Basically, step one was to use it to give a copy of itself to a companion. A year later they'd give it back to you, and you could use the new copy to give a different power away.

Does this work? Is But I don't wanna go to school today! a mental based power (as opposed to a meta-power) and does being regifted a copy of it not violate the 'effects do not stack' clause?

Cause it would be nice to not have to get Real Eater to exploit this. The text of the perk follows:

"But I don't wanna go to school today!"- 600 (Discount Secret Keeper)

Choose one mental based power you possess. Once per year you can impart this power onto another willing and aware individual in a ten minute meditation. The effects do not stack.

>>51132344
Just because doing good isn't always easy doesn't mean it's not worth doing. /paladinmode

Also >>51132378
It may be really hard in setting, but depending on what other powers you have it could be anywhere from challenging to trivial for you.

And some jumpers just like doing good and helping people.
You know, instead of committing genocide, finding new paths to Apotheosis, MAD SCIENCE, finding yet another waifu for their harem or whatever other depravity some people here like to get up to.

>>51132398
>Well personally I'd get him a trail and all that first.
What, a jumper going through the court system? Blasphemy.
More seriously you'll likely have trouble even getting a proper case against him.
You can certainly try (and there's perks to make it have a better chance at success, so that helps).
Making him share a cell with his new best friend Bubba for a few years would certainly be amusing enough.

>>51132469
There's ways to heal that kind of thing too.

>>51132501
Seems like you pick the perk you are going to give when you buy it. Giving the perk to someone else isn't a case of them buying it, it's just them getting a copy. So, no, you couldn't choose a new perk to copy.

On the other hand, you could use that method to give the perk to a companion who has real eater (or the cannon owner).

>>51132292
>>51132398

>Shinji on the other hand isn't influenced or coerced by anything iirc. He's just an absolutely terrible person.

Highly debatable considering Zouken, has had literal decades to shape him into his perfect little tool to isolate and control Sakura. Honestly I doubt any non-magus would have a chance against such an ancient powerful evil with options ranging from brute mind-control to slow insidious campaings of inducing self-loathing and worthlessness from a very young age.

Also I'ts been a while but I remember the sex between Shinji and Sakura before she turned into the grail to be consented to. Something about the worms needing sex or they heat up and kill Sakura? Sure Sakura didin't enjoy it but I think she accepted it as necessary before she turned into the black grail.

>>51132503
Anyone have that image with that one anon talking about using Cosmic Fact and Kamen Rider Ex-Aid to grant some kid's wish and curing their cancer?

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>>51131652

So basically this drawback means you get stalked by the magical girl version of Asakura?

>>51131671
Over the Garden Wall
Neir

>>51132255
Or faction paradox, though thats a bit 'made on drugs'.

>>51132575
It shouldn't be all that hard to find out in-jump if you care about doing something about it.

Probably a good idea in general instead of going in guns blazing.

>>51132475
>Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken
If I were to make a jump for that, the slime race would have a forced "you can't assume a non-slime form for the duration of this jump" drawback because why make a story about the MC being a slime if you're just going to have them essentially not be one part way through?
The other problem with a generic one would be that since a lot of isekai use game screens, some of its perk trees would be covered by The Gamer.
Drop In (game world), Xianxia, Monster, Secondary Character are the current ones I'm thinking of.

>>51132503
>Paladinmode
>Talks about having Shinji raped in jail

>>51132501
The idea is that when you get it, you get to choose what it gives, so if you get it multiple times, you get multiple choices.

>>51132575
>I remember the sex between Shinji and Sakura before she turned into the grail to be consented to.
No, he blackmailed her into sex and forced himself on her constantly. There was no consent.

>Something about the worms needing sex or they heat up and kill Sakura?
This much is true, the worms feed off of the mana from sex and she sometimes had to go around and fuck random strange men to keep them from killing her. This didn't happen all that often, only when something agitated the worms and made them wake up, when they're normally dormant. Most commonly, the thing that activates them are either Sakura's lewd thoughts (which are, funnily enough, most often caused by her thinking about Shirou), or by Zouken doing it to be a cunt. This is where the slut part of her name comes from. But this wasn't what was generally happening with Shinji. He'd just go in and start raping her out of jealousy for her having magecraft.

>>51132503
>What, a jumper going through the court system? Blasphemy.
Whilst flawed it is the system he is a citizen of, and as a local CEO, I can't just kill him.

>More seriously you'll likely have trouble even getting a proper case against him.
To this I call bullshit. The amount of evidence that a proper forensic squad could pic up off the bed alone would be enough nd if you got Sakura to talk about it then the evidence is quite damning. Granted this all has to be done in such a way that Grandpa Zouken doesn't see it, which is the actual hard part but the case itself would be easy to put together.

>You can certainly try (and there's perks to make it have a better chance at success, so that helps).
Note: Hit up Phoenix Wright at some point...

>>51132575
See here >>51132655

>>51132603
Or Sarah Jane Chronicles.

It doesn't really matter, though. It was just our pet troll taking another prompt as an excuse to shitpost about a three year old jump.

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>>51132582
You got it.

>>51131671
Justice League International. I won't do it because

1. My interest kinda waned in it. I don't even read DC comics anymore but it's kinda nostalgic for me.
2. I have no idea how to even do a jump for something in a comic book universe, much less a parody of it. I really have to hand it to the people making the DC/Marvel jumps.

Still, it would be interesting. I also want to help Booster Gold and warn him of Ted's death :(

Fist of the B0rf Star
Princess Tutu
Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger I just want to romance Captain Marvelous leave me alone
Kamen Rider Fourze
Yuki Yuuna is a Hero
Log Horizon
Mystic Messenger (Not even sure if I can turn this into a jump but...)

>>51132700
>Kamen Rider Fourze
We have a Kamen Rider Fourze jump. The Neo-Heisei jumps cover it.

>>51132679
...That would probably work a whole lot better as a jump. You would probably still need the fiat-no on most tech, but there should be enough stuff in the show to satisfy all but the hardest power wanker.

>>51132185
C-Tech would require multiple jumps. One for normal everyday stuff, we're talking about civilians & psychics. Then a Mech Jump, dealing with soldiers/engineers with mechs & Evangelions/Engels. Then a supernatural dealing with Cults, Tager (Alien Guyvers), and Zoanoids.

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>>51132674
And my pic didn't stick!

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>>51131671
I NEED TO READ KINNIKUMAN BUT

KINNIKUMAN
WHEN

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>>51132655

Jesus Christ, I may have only a passing familiarity with the Fate series but you'd think I'd know that this happened by now.

And all that happened in canon? That's some fucked up shit.

>>51132674
>>51132655

I suppose I shall take your word for it then. Dosen't change the fact that Shinji is more of a tragic character than a villain, a literal puppet of Zouken molded to his specifications and needs. Honestly I can't hate someone who's evil actions were literally someone else's choice. He never had a chance to be good or even be evil in a different way than what Zouken wanted him too and for that I can only pity him. It doesn't help that scenes with him in them, show how pathetic and childishly broken he was, desperatly seeking validation .

>>51132640
Being a slime though only gives like two benefits, no bleeding out, and the way slimes eat synergies well with the MC's Predator ability. Otherwise being a slime would itself be a drawback. And I don't see any real issue with the perks also being covered by The Gamer, it's not like there aren't other jumps out there that have stuff covered by other jumps. Besides it's like 9/10 modern Isekai that have game screens and level up mechanics, even the one where the guy is a vending machine has a game screen and various skills and stats for him to level up. Personally I would be tempted to give an analysis/appraisal ability and video game like level up for free because everyone gets those in most of the series.

Though for backgrounds I would be going with, Drop in(super gamey), Truck-kun(Generic wish fulfillment hero), Japanese cold(minmax meta stuff), Spirited Away(Older stuff that you don't see as much of in modern Isekai), Native, and Unclear(monster/item background). Maybe cut Japanese Cold if it became problematic to fill everything.

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>>51132870
If you wanna save him you could likely do that in Fate/Zero, as back then Zouken was using his father as a puppet. I'm just saying that at the point of Fate/Stay Night Shinji is a piece of work.

>>51132323
>Final Fantasy Tactics
Pretty sure this one exists in the imaged folder.
>>51132333
>His Dark Materials
Some poor dude on /r/jumpchain is trying to make it. Last I saw he was begging anyone for help.

>>51132808
Yes. Were you aware that Zouken gets the worms into her by having them drill/fuck their way into her body in a massive pit? And that they always hurt?

>>51132870
You're pathetically desperate to defend that piece of shit.

>>51131671
Groundhog Day.
3652 of the same day.
And if jumper leaves the city limits, the chain ends.
You can pick the city, but the population must be below 50,000.

>>51132149
Glad to see someone had the same idea.

...I should replay that again.

Meanwhile - "Dammit Annette, you have a project to finish as it is! Stop lazying about, you slimy turd."

>>51132946
>Were you aware that Zouken gets the worms into her by having them drill/fuck their way into her body in a massive pit? And that they always hurt?

I actually did know about that part.

I just didn't know Sakura had to go around fucking random strangers to keep the worms from killing her whenever they got agitated. Or that Shinji raped her repeatedly.

>>51132942
No, that's FFTA. I want the original.

>>51132942
>tactics
That's advanced. Tactics is in WIP.

>>51132973
She isn't a worm slut for nothing.

>>51132907
I'm not as well versed in older isekai stuff. Most of my knowledge is the modern isekai. I also want to include as many as I can so that's why I'm putting in the xianxia (now called young master) background because as it is now, there'll probably never be a xianxia jump. Though I will replace secondary character with Truck-kun and possibly add in native if I can think of enough perks and items.

>>51132723
There's also a Log Horizon jump. It's just terrible and unfinished and the creator bailed on us.

>>51132185
>Reign of Fire
Yes, that WOULD be pretty baller.
Well, you know, as long as you can hang around that one American dude.

>>51132907
>>51133025
Just pick one you like and make a jump for it. Generics are an outdated concept.

>>51132870
You don't need to hate him to stop him. There might have been a point once when you could have helped him turn to a different path, but by FSN it's probably too late for that.

I'm not saying you have to kill him, but being manipulated doesn't give him a carte blanche to act like he does.

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>>51132942
>Pretty sure this one exists in the imaged folder.
That's Tactic's Advanced. Tactics is much better in my opinion. There is also a skeliton of FF Tactics in the WIP or Adoption bin, I remember seeing it at one point. Ah here it is https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDeGZuaXR2MVNWZmM/view

>>51133006
Aye. It hasn't been updated in... about five months I think...

>>51132946

I just feel sorry for him. I can't fault him for becoming what he became, so it annoys me when people gleefully describe revenge fantasies for things he had no real choice in. Especially when I'm not sure anyone could do better than he, in the situation he found himself in.

>>51132925

I know. Honestly I see him as much of a victim of Zouken as Sakura is.

>>51133021

I suppose that's true. Although I'm a bit confused as to why we have a Fate/Stay Night jump when we already have a general Fate/ jump?

>>51133049
Generics work if there's a bunch of similarities and not enough differences between franchises. Like besides the characters, House, ER, Code Black, Chicago Med, Grey's Anatomy. They all good shows but they're Medical Dramas. There's not a lot of reinventing the wheel because it's largely based off of real hospitals, just fictionalized. SitComs are the same.

>>51133101
Fate/ is being redone as multiple jumps.

>>51133134

So I guess this means the old Fate jump is no longer usable?

Exalted: The Infernals
What First Two Chapters?+0
Remembering a Past Life+0
Horrible Coadjutor +100 so annoying.
Demonic Aspect+100 big ass Popeye arms
Omen Weather [+100]
Past Lives Matter [+200] pretty sure the chorus can take him
Blade of Hatred +200 it's a evil sword , like I don't have over 3000 years of experience at both managing evil magic items and swordplay.
Demon Hunters [+200] fairly confident about this.
A Hellish Rival+200 this is where it gets difficult. At least he doesn't scale with me
CASTE YOZI:Malfeas, the Demon City
FAVORED YOZI:Isidoros, the Black Boar that twists the skies I hate this guy for his abuse of power, but he's got a decent attitude . He just needs to direct it better.
ORIGINS: drop in.
Creation:Roll(1d8)+0:4,+0 Total:4 City of the Steel Lotus. Time to continue the Bob Vela thing
Savant’s Understanding free for Savant
orphan cub of the Devil-Tiger:ZorDortin the Forge father -300
That Twists The Sky -200 discount for Isidoros
Remember the Past -100
the inner world -400
descending hierarchy -400
Heart and Soul -300
Hellstar Guitar -150 taken from siphoned discount for drop-in
Hellclaw Boots -200
Purest Vitriol -50 taken from siphoned
Exotic Components -50 taken from siphoned
the fortress that moves -200

Oh no! Has magic samurai-Bob Vela turned evil? The local authorities seem to think so but he doesn't seem to commit any evil deeds beyond unlicensed construction, vandalism and unlawful use of property with his suddenly building glamorous towers on the sites of poor farmer's hovels as they sleep, angering many small Gods by carving entire forests into still living sculptures , each of which on close inspection conveys the feeling of a page of a ancient, and alien autobiography down to a page number Her majesties agents suspect the worse. But however , could a Dragon blood become one of the those horrid few?

>>51133152
I'm not sure. Right now you can still use it because we don't have Fate/zero yet, but once that and maybe a few more are made it'll be obsolete.

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>>51132948
I already went through that jump.
It was called Undertale.

>>51131671
Lately I've been thinking I really, really wish we had an actual Chrono Cross jump, instead of having to sortof piggyback off the current Chrono Trigger jump. Especially because certain scenarios present in the jump make the possibility of Chrono Cross happening somewhat murky.

Maybe Breath of Fire, but I feel like I'd want separate jumps for each game, and that's probably too much to ask.
Oh, and Final Fantasy IV, while I'm at it.
Really, any retro Final Fantasies would be great.

A Wander Over Yonder Jump would also be pretty neat. They really have my kindof baddies over there.
Hate's Great, Best Villain.

World of Warcraft update when

>>51133193
I think you could probably get away with Breath of Fire 1 and 2 in a single jump. Maybe 3 and 4 if you're willing to stretch, but they're probably good as singletons. 5 should absolutely be its own thing.

>>51133049
There is like an incredibly standard layout for Isekai, and the stories don't often differ that much. You could describe the general plot, main character, setting, and mechanics, and have it fit 20+ series.
One I would most like to make is a bit different, Tensei Shitara Kendeshita, where a guy was reincarnated as a sword, and it's really the story of the girl that wields him rather than his story. However the translations are 200 chapters behind, and while I'm up to date with the japanese release(my japanese is terrible though so I don't understand some of it and I'm mostly using online translation tools) it's not entirely clear what the hell is going to happen and I have way more questions than I should if I was to make a jump. I don't think it's even a third of the way through.

Now I could make a Kumo Desu ga, Nani Ka? jump, but the setting sucks(I don't hate it, it's just literally a terrible place), the skill system is actively detrimental, and there is only one correct choice in setting, be an administrator and don't piss off D.

>>51132948
>And if jumper leaves the city limits, the chain ends.
No, you can try to leave the city without the chain ending, but everywhere else is Blizzard. Everywhere, just Blizzard.

>>51133392
This is much better.

>>51133392
> "I'll just fuck off to space!"
> Space is only more Blizzard.
This would be a total mindfuck and I love it.

>>51132338

That reminds me. Are there any good perks that allow you to heal someone's soul?

>>51133193
I wanted to do a FF1 or FF2 jump, but I could never get stuff to work for me.

Maybe I'll play them some more, and try again.

>>51133392
>>51133404
Nearby theme park
>Blizzard
Active Volcano
>Blizzard
Space
>Blizzard
Core of the sun
>Super Blizzard
Black Hole
>Blizzard hole that warps you back
Digital world (because someone will try it)
>a buggy Battle.net client

>>51131671
Danganronpa

>>51133454
>Digital world (because someone will try it)
>>a buggy Battle.net client
Ah, would it be a buggy battle.net client on a 56k modem? Because I actually have very fond memories of that, and starcraft brood wars.

>>51133281
Never. Timmy & his friends drove off the person who was gonna update it. I don't feel anyone else will do it justice. Including myself. However I might try my hand at it.

Class Halls, Artifact Weapons, and etc. I had a dream of them being scenarios.

>>51133423
Generic Virtual World has white hat and some band-aids and says that someone's data functions as a soul, and you could jury rig something using Metaphysical Biology from Neon Genesis Evangelion.

>>51133423
Anima Beyond Fantasy has one. Strong Soul or something like that?
Combine it with something like Sacrificial Bestowment or the perks from Kingdom Hearts or Medaka Box that let you loan someone your perks and give it to whoever you want to heal.

>>51133574
>Sacrificial Bestowment
Bad idea. That would just give people copies of your soul, not fix theirs.

>>51133601
That perk explicitly makes your soul regenerate on its own. So you would share that trait, healing their soul.

>>51133648
Can you share only parts of a perk?

>>51131671
I want more exotic environments. We only have one underwater Jump, two if you count CATastrophe, one Skylands jump, and one or two underground jumps. We need a Little Mermaid or Solatorobo Jump, or something similar.

I'd really like to see more monolothic environments as well, like the Dungeon you get from Generic Dungeon-Builder or the colossal hell-museum you're trapped in if you take the 1000 CP drawback version of Shivers, but I can't think of any media that'd have something like that.

>>51133667
The perk doesn't give you a soul, seeing how you already have one before the jump or if you don't take it. Presumably.

It just makes the soul you already have stronger and lets it regenerate.
It also lets you be a ki master without requiring physical fitness (or really anything else), but that's not relevant in this case.

>>51133423
There's a perk in Kingdom Hearts that lets you give people souls. I'm sure it's able to repair one.

You could also use Sacrificial Bestowment on Soulfire from Dresden Files. Just make sure they don't use it until their soul repairs itself.

>>51133758
>Solatorobo Jump
Lycoris is supposed to be working on it.

>>51133421
>>51133454

There you are in Space, where there is Blizzard all around you, and it is even more incense ahead of you.
So you are stalled in place, behind a Winnebago, in Space.
A Space Highway Patrolman (who you are pretty sure is the Benefactor) comes up and tells you the way ahead is closed due the the Blizzard, and you will have to turn back.

This will happen whenever you leave town, however you leave town. There will be a Blizzard, you will get stuck behind a Winnebago, and a patrolman will turn you back.

>>51132212
Don't care. Settings pretty cool and that stuff is pretty ignorable.

>>51133423
Sylph of Heart from Sburb. It always pays to pack a Soul Medic in your party comp.

>>51131671
Dokapon Kingdom
Twisted Metal
The Librarian
Fist of the North Star
Bobobo, provided someone could find a good way to do it
Pretty Cure
Ojamo Doremi
Something with Dragon Quest, which I am legitimately surprised no one has touched yet
I want My Hero Academia, but I think people are afraid to make it given past experiences with shonen escalation
Little Witch Academia, once the season ends
Helck
Pinocchio
Lazytown
Magic Schoolbus
Maybe Avalon Code, but the idea behind the book becomes pretty crazy once it's no longer limited by gameplay mechanics
Keit-AI! as a joke jump.

Also, Fist of the B0rf Star and Warehouse 13, which other people have already suggested.

>>51132212
Standard lewd rule. Excise that shit entirely and there's still a viable jump, so it's fine.

>>51132907
>Origins are stereotypical deaths
I don't know why I find that idea so hilarious.

>>51133836
>Settings pretty cool
A shitty mashup of Eva and Lovecraft that takes barely any inspiration from either and is mostly the writer's rape fetish isn't cool.

>>51133864
That's not what the rule is. Shitty lewd settings aren't allowed even when it's not reflected in the jump.

Cthulhutech shouldn't be a jump because it's an unavoidable magical realm of rape, furries, and forced pregnancy.

Are time stop Stands banned?

>>51133991
Probably not? It's not like it's the most powerful effect in Jojo, and there are much better time stops in the chain.

>>51133991
Not as long as it's balanced. It's just hard to do so because timestop is so strong.

There's also the issue that there are 2 straight timestop stands in canon, and most people don't want to be copycats. Come up with a good mechanic and see what the thread thinks.

>>51133962
That's absolutely what the rule is. Cut out the lewd shit (cut, not censor), and if there's a Jump left, you're fine.

Cthulhutech has shitty lewd bits, but there's enough that isn't lewd to make a Jump work.

>>51134040
He won't listen, he'll happily bitch about it all thread. The only way we're ever getting a Cthulhutech jump is if someone just makes a good one, and let's anon scream uselessly afterwards.

>>51133863
>The Librarian
Someone on SB is working on one.

>>51133962
C-Tech has lewd. However its not the focus of anything. C-Tech has many problems, the game itself has the stupidest dice system. It actively requires players & DMs to lie to one another. Then there's the fact they tried to jam at least 3 settings into one core book. The lewd bits came on later in a splat. In the core the only thing that's "lewd" would be the Drow. They have no nudity taboo, and society as a whole is a lot more open sexually.

righteous indignation against the cold and arrows of the world
appearing as a men's hooded kneelength fur coat made from the strangely pattern for of an impossibly bright and dark toned Geiselian animal buttoned with what appeared to be small circular Windows leading to a storehouse of fabulous and exotic wonders , the cuffs of which form many pointedly tapered strands seeming to squirm of their own volition , the hood of which bears embroidery resembling a the head of some behemoth with eyes formed of some hard unnatural substance not unlike Ivory, the lining of which seems to be composed of the night sky itself twinkling mysteriously righteous indignation against the cold and arrows of the world is the rebirth and physical representation of the memory and affection banchô-Anon feels for his first great project . His heavy vantablack jacket. His love of which was so great that when he first lost it He mourned for over 50 years before resorting to a backup and then he underwent great torment to merge himself with this backup so that he and his jacket could never be parted again righteous indignation against the cold and arrows of the world has all of banchô-Anon's ranged offensive powers Gemcraft magic, his durability boosts, his inventory perks and his sanity protection perks, God Tier Maid of space and Witch of space powers increased by not having access to physical strength boosts, speed boosts, learning or mental abilities. Indeed, it's mind is simple, kind and friendly ,Not unlike some of thecharacters found in children's educational puppet shows.

Intimacies:durability, comfort, warmth, coziness,stationary active defense/ area denial, and protection of others.

>>51134040
>Know a shitty setting with fetishy elements that you have a soft spot for
>Consider if it stands up on its own merits
>Think about it some more and realize that the story flat-out cannot happen without the fetish stuff
Sucks man.
For the interested, it's a gender change story that tries to, poorly, explore issues of personal identity. But the story is still about boys turning into girls at it's center.

>>51134188
I

>>51134182
I forgot to mention, these are a couple of my third Circle demons


The First and founding fool
appearing as nothing more than my body mod body . The first and founding fool is formed from an expungement of the original mind, ego and spiritual natures of the person I was before I started jumping, he has a mere 33% of all his current Jumper selfs abilities . Save for the personality perks and willpower perks of which are increased to 166% for indeed he was excised from the chorus not as a form of punishment, but because drastic measures needed to be taken for his own mental health great pains were involved in the process of rehabilitating and befriending the wretch that all of banchô-Anon was built on top of

Intimacies: novelty, self-improvement, exploration, banchô-Anon's loved ones, bettering the lives of others, Justice

>>51133863
>I want My Hero Academia, but I think people are afraid to make it given past experiences with shonen escalation

But series has already shown their strongest. Unless they pull out a Worm there and go cosmic in the last arc, there is little variation there to be done.

And the shonen escalation in the series is slow as hell.

>>51134188
There's always the QQ thread.

>>51134188
What is it?

>>51134040
No it's not, otherwise the CoC jump would've been valid.

>>51134188
>But the story is still about boys turning into girls at it's center
Is it that El Goon Shiv thing people talk about sometimes?

>>51134188
Is it Whateley Academy?

>>51134231
CoC is all lewd, all the time. C-Tech actually has stuff that's not lewd, and if you cut out the lewd bits you're left with a viable setting.

>>51134231
CoC is 100% lewd. Or at least 95%. Cut out the lewd elements and there's nothing left.

>>51134208
>questionablequest
Have they produced Jumps?

>>51134271
But anon said that if you cut the lewd out of the jump, then its fine.

>>51134221
Mecchen House, it's on deviantart. It's honestly not very good, but I skimmed it when I was younger and remember it fondly.

>>51134269
I'm not surprised you know all the rapiest settings.

>>51134273
A few.

>>51134188
Gender change isn't lewd. Unless it's played for lewd, I mean. But every goddamn Jump we have lets you swap your fun bits.

>>51134231
>Clash of Clans is lewd
Why didn't anyone tell me this?
I'm joking.

>>51134256
The shittiest.

>>51134273
Besides DDanons? Only one, with something like two or three WIPs floting around.

Hey mardukth

when it says you can create third circle demons that outpace you in Some areas but not others. Does that include giving them abilities that are basically variance on abilities you have , but that don't quite work that way? I.e. if you can absorb And integrate technological items into yourself and gain their abilities they could also absorb magical items.

>>51134273
Technically? Like, one? Maybe one and a half? They have a few WIP's for lewd settings. Like, three or four.

Though honestly, aside from DDAnon, the only finished jump they have is GHJ from bladethulhu, who is technically a SB-er.

>>51134282
Cut, not censor. It's only viable if there's still a Jump after you remove all the rape-monsters, not if you pretend they're not going to rape you. If you cut the lewd from Cthulhutech, there's still a lot of setting. If you cut it from CoC, you're left with a third of a title screen.

>>51133991
No, at least not if you don't grab something outside of the range of the canon ones. 5 second stop for humans, possibly more for more powerful beings the time limit on time stop isn't on the stand but the user, a 6 second rewind, a 10 second time skip. I can't think of any other time manipulating stands.

>>51134273
They have one complete jump and a few jumpable Wips.

>>51134339
>If you cut it from CoC, you're left with a third of a title screen.
No you have a fairly bland RPG.

>>51134273
I think a few. Generic Mind Control is the most recent I've seen, and it's not actually that bad, apart from a few issues. Controller is far and away the best origin, from a powergaming perspective, but it's a better jump than I thought it'd be.

>>51134404
You mean one without any NPCs?

>>51133962
Oh, it's you.
The asshole.
>Lowers Helmet
Keep Firing, Asshole!

>>51134445
At this point he's just being a pedant. Probably wants a fight.

>>51134445
If you took the lewd out there would still be NPCs, they would just be very boring ones since most of their key traits are fetishes which would be removed through the un-lewd-ening.

>>51134445
Or enemies. Or magic items.

>>51134406

Where is the archive for that?

>>51134484
No, that's the difference between censoring and cutting. You'd have to cut the lewd NPCs, not pretend they're just boring people. That's why we can't just pretend Qwaser has people get power from something besides sucking lactating breasts.

>>51134458
I knew it, I'm surrounded by assholes!

>We'll never get a Bad Porno jump with a mandatory Bad Acting drawback
>We'll never get a perk where you can pay people with sex
>There'll never be a setting import option, with a discount if you come up with a good porn parody name

>>51134406
The Controller origin isn't even that good, you have to buy up to being usable and only one or two options are actually interesting.

Would have been better if it was done based on several different types of Controllers as the Origins, each with discounts on thematic and interesting method's/upgrades to their mind control.

>>51134506
>>There'll never be a setting import option
There is in the Generic Lewd jump.

>>51134506
>There'll never be a setting import option, with a discount if you come up with a good porn parody name
GHJ has the first half, and a perk tree to kinda-sorta force it in later worlds. The second half of that is a nice touch though.

>>51134533
>>51134531

Do NSFW jumps even count?

>>51134531
>>51134533
Technically he said 'we', and that jump isn't 'we' because it's banned.

>>51134558
No, they're not /jc/ content. Only like one or two idiots push for them.

>>51134496
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19fB9lpKqalervCLN1k-71na6gvMwNa7_nTI3_3p0xmY/mobilebasic

>>51134524
>you have to buy up to being usable
Controllers get one option from each tier free, that's totally usable even if you don't put any points into it.

>>51134506
>We'll never get a perk where you can pay people with sex
If you pay a prostitute with sex, does it cause an infinite feedback loop?

>>51134504
>>51134458
You're going to want this if this is the kind of behavior you're going to Have its definitely an Jumpable state
http://pastebin.com/YzE2tg5A

>>51134558
Nah, we're just joshing.

>>51134406
>>51134573
Can you take your conversation to the appropriate forum instead of shoving your magical realm in people's faces?

>>51134571
Technically they're on the /jc/ drive. Even technicallier, they're not on the Banned folder but on the Lewd folder.

>>51134406
Well I figured it was never going to be balanced from a powergaming perspective so I went with what would be useful to someone taking the origins instead of balancing for power.

>>51134575
Not unless you're some kind of weirdo who pays prostitutes in the middle of sex. You'd obviously either pay her in advance by having sex with her before you get the sex you paid for, or you'd go for another round if you pay afterwards.

>>51134601
That's not our drive. That's a separate drive made by somebody else that links to our drive. Google is just retarded and lets people set themselves up as displaying higher order in someone elses tree.

>>51134588
My magical realm has tentacle trees that forcibly impregnate everyone who comes near them. And the water is actually breast milk that mutates people into furries.

>>51134623
You're a disgusting one.

>>51134601
That's not because they should be on the drive, it's because of how google and the guy who made the banned folder set up the drive. The real problem there is how google sets up drives that is completely retarded. You could make like 50 drives that each place themselves before one another all before the jc drive.

>>51134573
>ontrollers get one option from each tier free, that's totally usable even if you don't put any points into it.
True (I forgot about that), but the options still aren't particularly interesting. Still think it would have been better with multiple controller archetypes.

>>51134652
Go talk to the jumpmaker about it. Or go to cyoa gen if you really need to stay on 4chan and talk about fetishes.

>>51134619
>>51134642
Uh. Interesting. I've been out-technically'd.

>>51134603
Is there a reason it's not on the QQ drive? It seems like it is just the old banned/lewd drive + Generic Hentai.

>>51134603
Yeah, it's definitely never going to be balanced, especially as long as there's a Minion background.

If you ever intended to touch it again, maybe just make everyone a mind controller, with Minions working for someone else? Then, you can do what >>51134524 suggests and base origins around something like different methodologies that are competitive with each other. It's probably okay to give everyone those powers since it's a "Mind Control" jump.

>>51134698
>>51134700
You people have serious brain problems.

>>51134731
In what way?

>>51134749
You keep forcing a conversation here that belongs on another forum where the subject isn't outright banned and reviled by the userbase. You're both clearly members there and thus there's nothing stopping you.

>>51134765
Nobody fucking cares.
They're not posting porn, they're not being obnoxious, they're not spamming, they're not derailing, they're having a civil discussion.
If you have such a problem with people discussing stuff that's tangentially related to a fetish you don't care for, maybe you should fuck off to some hugbox.

>>51134884
>Nobody fucking cares
That's blatantly untrue.

And I'd argue that spoiler text conversations about your mind control fetish and what's unbalanced in a bad jump are both obnoxious AND spamming.

>>51134899
>Bad
Meant banned. That's the whole issue here, this is explicitly something that was decided wasn't wanted in the thread. It can be argued that it's then disrespectful to other users to keep on with it.

Where can I grab perks that makes people trust me inherently? Like, I show up, people look at me, and they think "Yeah, he's trustworthy."

>>51134899
Aww, boohoo, you're annoyed.

I'm annoyed by you, too. That means you should fuck off to another forum where I'm not around.

>>51134922
JITTAGAL from Redwall is good for that. You produce a natural aura of virtue and trustworthiness. It also shifts your personality towards actually being virtuous, though, so it might not be what you're looking for if you just want to trick people.

>>51134969
Ignoring context just makes you look like the unreasonable one senpai.

>>51134997
No, that sounds good to me. I just want to make friends. Thanks anon.

>>51135015
Cool. Glad to hear your motives are just ones, anon. Have fun.

>>51134922
You don't need any perks for that, just walk around without a shirt on.
No, seriously, just think about it. When you see someone walking around shirtless, it's very rare to think "Man, that guy/gal is sketchy as fuck."

>>51134253
If anyone ever makes an EGS jump, I want two things for Drop-ins: The Goon as a companion, and the El Goonish Shiv as an item.

>>51135058
...huh. That's...actually a good point.

>>51135058
Yeah, but they will think you're kind of douchey, if you're a guy. That could negate the advantage. Same with being scandalized, if you're a girl.

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>>51134504

>>51135102
Yeah.
But you're not seen as untrustworthy.

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>>51133061
>Final Fantasy Tactics

Just to be clear on this, the anon who was working on that retracted the claim because they hadn't gotten anything done in forever. It's totally up for grabs now and anyone who wants to work on it should go for it.

Also that anon was me, Jesus Christ I'm so sorry. I gave up the claim months ago but people still think that was being worked on? I hope that didn't keep someone else from taking it up. Could someone who handles the Google Drive stuff remove it from the WIP folder or something?

ALSO, I just noticed the version of Armored Core on the drive isn't the latest one. I'm just gonna repost that and hopefully Brutus or someone will catch it this time.

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>>51128408
...oh wow.

Sorry, I generally make a habit of leaving old drama in old threads but this is priceless. You see, when I said "someone willing to post jumps in thread" I was, in fact, referring to Dirge.

You'd also notice he blames YOU for making this place inhospitable, to the point where he conflated you with the shitposter. You wanna know the irony of all this? I'd been asking if he'd felt like posting before you started your little shitshow-but the very second you posted THIS?

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/51096671/#51103231

You crossed a line.

>>51128483
And I notice you don't even deny my accusation before trying to switch topics, which tells me everything I need to know about you. Here's a basic truth people like you always forget:

Coercive power.

Doesn't Exist.

On the internet, unless people let it.

So go ahead. Post whatever I do on that other forum, for all I care. Because if you think being a brownosing little busybody gives you any leverage over me, then you're even more stupidly self-defeating than I thought.

>>51131671
Hellboy
Unknown Armies
Mob Psycho 100
Asterix
Dominions
Pact
Fables/The Wolf Among Us
The Ocean Hunter (gauntlet? Lore's pretty barebones)
The House of the Dead
Mushishi (someone-I think the same guy who did the Alice in Wonderland jumps?-made a WIP a while back that's been long forgotten)

>>51134619
Someone from a while back had an idea how to fix that, actually. Apparently,

"WE can make a higher order folder, place a link to OUR current folder in it, and then switch it to be the top folder that branches into OURs"

I've been hoping to get in touch with Brutus to see if this would solve the problem handly.

>>51135058
Um...not sure what neighbourhood you grew up in, but context matters a little.

Depending on the kind/absence of pants and shoes you're wearing, you may still be seen as sketchy in a different way.

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>>51131671
Any jump with the Mask movie, animated series or comic.
Jak and Daxter.
Kaladesh and basically every other plane known in MtG.

>>51135135
Couldn't you post this on the upload folder?

>>51135138
>to the point where he conflated you with the shitposter.
Do you really think he isn't the shitposter? Because he totally is.

>>51135138
I'm not trying to gain leverage over you, so much as to inform you that I know what you're doing and telling everyone else that what you're doing. It's unlikely to make you very popular if you persist in actively trying to keep him from posting here.

>>51135186
>and basically every other plane known in MtG.
Ravnica, Lorwyn/Shadowmoor, Mirrodin (New Phyrexia Drawback optional), Kamigawa, and Homelands would be great jump settings.

Is the Age of Empires III jump complete? It says something about having four or five parts, but I only see two.

>>51135135
>FFT
Yeah but wasn't there another jumpmaker that hopped onto it after you dropped the claim? He even showed off a WIP on IRC as far as I know.

>>51135257
Do you have any evidence for this accusation, man?
Because I can just make shit up on the internet too.

George Washington was a black gay female to male transexual Quaker of arabic descent.

See?

>>51135319
Go check his message history on his SB profile. We've been over this.

>>51135257
You already got what you wanted by forcing dirge to leave then forcing him to give up his jumps, so shouldn't you be busy making replacements for them now that you've succeeded? Come on, we're expecting good things coming from you.

Hey, could someone post the completed Infernals jump? I noticed that the one on the drive didn't have the intro or any of the stuff that went along with it.

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>>51135296
Unfortunately Wakfu left before being able to do the other parts. I believe the remainder was deemed jumpable by him though, if you want to.

>>51135230
Call it a hunch but the shitposter seems a shade more impulsive, a tad less coherent. The distinction truly doesn't matter at this point, because-jesus, look at the anti-backtracking in that other post.

"No I'm not doing that, but I'm watching you and I'm waiting any excuse I can to wage a smear campaign". Fucker's posting like a House of Cards character, implying implications like there's no tommorow because anything he digs up will make him look worse.

He seriously thinks I give a shit about some imaginary "popularity contest" drivel, instead of the fact he is stooping to cyberbullying to make someone do something for him over the internet.

Either he's too stupid to be worth engaging, or you're right.

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>>51135281
Indeed. Pre-timeshift Tarkir would be cool too. I love the clans of that plane, and I'm still kind of sad that they were not just destroyed, but more or less erased from history.

>>51135219

Huh, yeah, I guess I'm a retard and could have done that instead. Thanks.

>>51135307

I actually never heard about that but I've also never used IRC, so maybe. I'm glad someone else picked it up if so.

>>51135387
I didn't do that. Don't be an idiot and associate me with the shitposter who NEVER answers personal questions or those about his motives.

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>>51135438
Here you go.

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What are some names you've been known by?

And I'm not talking about titles, I'm talking about what name your parents gave you when you weren't a drop-in. You must have had some, since it'd be pretty weird if you'd still been called Jamie Smith during that one jump where you were a sixth century Chinese peasant.

>>51135449
Oh, that's disappointing. I liked where it was going. Thanks, Garlock.

>>51135469
Thank you kindly.

>>51135411
Do you think it makes him happy to know he's feared to the point that there's a fucking image posted in every thread dedicated to warning people off him?

>>51135469
Scenarios are going to be added right?

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>>51135482
No, he cries himself to sleep every night. He wants jumpchain to die in flames, not to gain notoriety.

>>51135493
Why would they?

>>51135471
>I'm talking about what name your parents gave you when you weren't a drop-in
I don't understand.

My jumper has plenty of aliases he's fond of using. One of the things that always brings a smile to his face is make sure there's no KotH in any given modern setting, and then call himself Rusty Shackleford.

>>51135471
I got the name Owen O'Connell in Person of Interest and Daichi Sasaki in Kamen Rider, all of them, due to continuity.

>>51135519
Not that anon, but Mardukth said he might add scenarios later, one for a dance baby, one for a flying fortress, one for the Ebon Dragon's wedding brand, and so on and so forth.

>>51135453
Well, if I get some time to work on it pre-timeshift Tarkir /is/ in the works.

>>51135463
If you're going to show the same behavior, then you can expect to be lumped under the same umbrella. It doesn't change the fact that you're only using them to shitpost now, and doesn't make you any better than the shitposter you claim not to be.

>>51135449
He obviously goes on SB, so he knows full well that dirge has already publically stated he doesn't want anything to do with this drama. Yet he continues to stir it up, so obviously he's doing it to keep him away. The rest of us have already accepted that he's gone and we don't need to bring it up, so why does this guy do it?

>>51135602
I'm neither the one who drove him nor the one who keeps him out. Blame the one who keeps ranting at him about Red whenever he pops up. Rather, all I'm doing is pointing out how he's gone for good, that content on SB is not valid here, and now what ASA has ended up doing out of spite.

>>51135601
>>51135453
Is there any reason to go to Tarkir besides uniting the dragaboo clans under one of my draconic companions? Because while that would be enough for me, some other jumpers might not have a dragon.

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>>51135453
>>51135281
>New Phyrexia

...I'm not very familiar with M:tG, but aren't Phyrexia the horrifying sensation-obsessed fleshcrafter Warpspawned eldritch horror civ?

Because if THAT'S considered a +0CP drawback, I don't wanna know what the actual drawbacks would be.

>>51135493
Oh yeah. I think so, scenarios and a lexicon-but not for a while so Mardukth considers it finished since it has an intro/all the relevant notes at the moment.

>>51135471
I picked up "Andy" at jump #6, in Borderlands. It was my first jump to a vidya where "Anon" couldn't pass for a local character's name, I was trying to register it as my merc callsign, but the terminal misheard it and...yeah.

Cyril's an alias I went by 5 jumps later, working as a mechanic.

Sorry for the Fate posting, but I have one last question.

How screwed are we, long term, if we don't invest CP in magic circuits? I was under the impression that you can't get more magic circuits, so that means there's a hard cap on how much mana you can pump out, and therefore how much you can grow before you have to rely entirely on refining your technique. Is this true, and are there any workarounds?

>>51135370
Usually when someone makes an accusation, they also bring the evidence themselves.
Otherwise they just look like a pot-stirring asshole.

>>51135641
Take your own advice. Check Dirge's messenging history, he thinks you're the shitposter.

You think we're this stupid, huh? People have literally posted examples of you acting to drive him out and you're still trying to pretend you dindu nothin.

>>51135695
Look above, the only other involved party knows he hasn't got jack shit to work with.

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>>51135674
>...I'm not very familiar with M:tG, but aren't Phyrexia the horrifying sensation-obsessed fleshcrafter Warpspawned eldritch horror civ?
They're magitech borg, though the diversification gained by consuming Mirrodin has created some subfactions with distinct themes.

>>51135674
>+0CP drawback
Woah woah woah. Nah. It'd be +400CP at least. New Phyrexia is home to five Praetors who rule different areas of the globe (mana-aligned, naturally). They rule over large numbers of minions, and work towards "compleation" using Phyrexian Oil, which basically corrupts things worse than that goop from Prometheus. A single drop of Oil can propagate itself, and eventually lead to whatever sapient beings it infects opening a portal to Old Phyrexia. IIRC, that's exactly what happened on Mirrodin.

>>51131671

There's a few different shmups I'd like to jump but they tend to make poor jump material.

I really like the ambience of Diadra Empty and the feel of flying around a deserted planet on a dragon but there's just not enough fluff there to work with.

Hellsinker has a pretty rad post-apoc magitech setting and a surprising amount of text/worldbuilding for a shmup but it's a bizarre setting and the author seems to enjoy being vague and cryptic about a lot of things so I'd have no confidence at all in trying to write an actual jump about it.

The Alltynex trilogy is pretty cool too but even harder to write up since there's massive timeskips on top of the lore gaps.

>>51135724
You've posted examples from other people.

>>51135695
You can just go there yourself. You're just lazy.

But That’s Forbidden Love! [+100] - Oh, dear. Everyone around you (even companions!) seem to jump to ridiculous conclusions about you and your relationship status, even if you’re already in a dedicated one. Exchanging a knowing look with someone thanks to a join telepathy conversation? Forbidden love! Carefully watching someone who just tried to kill you walk away! Forbidden love! Saying hello to that nice girl at the cafe? You get the idea. This also stacks with anything that boosts your reputation, and will lead more than a few awkward conversations. Clearing this up never lasts long. Ever.

I make one last thing before I take a break. Enjoy.

>>51135782
And you're not providing evidence.
So I can only assume you're just a shitposting, pot-stirring asshole.

Burden of proof is on you, anon.
Put up or shut up.
I'll be waiting.

>>51135686
There is indeed a hard cap. Magus society is based around how many generations your family have been mages since the newer bloods have significantly less power than the old blood.

You won't be screwed but you just won't be able to cast as much magic as someone with the same amount of circuits and time to train. So in the long term you aren't in that much trouble, it's the short term you're screwed.
Always invest in magic circuits

>>51135806
Fun!

>>51135827
Lazy.

>>51135866
Shitposter.

>>51135782
So now you've once again become an insufferable drama shitter dead set on stirring up more drama, even when other people have already told you to stop. When do you realize that trying to deny things anonymously on 4chan while shitposting doesn't work?

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>>51135765
>five Praetors
Hold up. Urabrask is actually a pretty cool dude, who believes that compleation should be strictly voluntary, and most of his subjects agree. They're just scared shitless about what the other four sects will do to them if they find out about their unorthodoxy, and only play nice when they have plausible deniability.
Give him some protection guarantees, and you could have most of the Phyrexian metalworking industry defect overnight.

>>51135806

...Do they still do this if you take the weasel drawback? Because that's gonna be a weird ten years.

>>51135641
You sound like the exact same person. The only reason you can even do this now is because you drove dirge away. It's almost like you've been waiting for him to go so that you can stir up this shit between SB and here.

How can I make people pray to me?

I got the Quintessence Fountain from Exalted Siderals and it gives me cool stuff if people pray to me.

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>>51135686
Well, the other workaround is using the Pseudo-Servant option to gain a vast reservoir of mana generally considered to have more raw power than any living, non-True Magic using human. Magic operated on different principles back in the Age of the Gods.

From the perspective of a human magic user though-yeah, circuit count is a limit. It's more of a softcap for the REALLY creative, though you probably wouldn't like most of their workarounds:

-Shirou's Reality Marble provides magical resources and skill in far excess of the prana he needs to actually generate the marble (roll with it, its' magic) to trace Noble Phantasms, which is considered a feat "close to" True Magic

-The Einzberns' hormunculi are apparently better equipped than humans at casting magic, to an undefined degree because the main ones we see are all Lesser Grails i.e. keystones to a True Magic-built system. Theoretically if you had something like Touko's Dollmaker as well as beyond-Einzbern Hormunculus skill I guess you could steadily build yourself an army of backup bodies to puppet with.

-Zouken used bits of a shattered Last Grail to implant a Lesser Grail in someone else; this is what the Black Grail perk is based on. This is the most theoretical, but assuming you're REALLY good at crafting Mystic Codes and have good enough mystic materials to work with you might be able to make something that generates parana in your body. Though as Sakura proved, the surgery involved is likely to be...unpleasant.

True Magic have ways of working around this; while the 3rd and 5th are most famous, the 2nd can apparently access a "mana plane" to supply indefinite magical energy to its' user according to Prisma Illya. Caster's rank of HSDW/Item Creation can let her do something else similar to another thing Zelretch's mystic codes can: "Trick" all your flesh into acting like magic circuits to increase magical output drastically.

This is very, very, very, very bad for your health apparently.

>>51135968
There are some perks for that here and there. I think the Generic Cult Jump has some, Okami has one if I remembering right, and I believe that the Civilization might have something for you.

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Have you ever wanted to take a canon companion option, but realized they'd regret it after being fiated into going with you?

>>51135672
I know you probably didn't mean that as an attack on the setting but the immediate response is "Why go to any setting?" Personally I like the setting, and think the different clans are interesting and it would be cool to visit.

Bringing in an outside dragon to take over may not work as smoothly as you think, given the clans are/were all about killing the dragons. If you're powerful enough it'd work, but if you're powerful enough you also don't need a dragon to take over.

>>51135686
It is not normally possible to acquire more magic circuits, there is a cap on how much prana(mana and od processed by a magic circuit that can then be used for magecraft) can be produced by a magic circuit. The limit also isn't exactly a rate, so much as an amount per day. Magic crests that are passed down families do contain magic circuits, but those in crests have basically been made so they only really work on specific spells and so don't exactly boost total prana production. Crest worms that Zouken made have artificial circuits and can be used to boost the power of the person using them, but there are other issues besides parasitic penis worms. There likely are other ways to get around the limit, however they would all be rather difficult and likely quite dangerous. Most of the forms of True magic though have ways of getting around this, so like in most other things they aren't nearly as limited as magecraft when it comes to this issue. There are also some things that you could buy to help get around it, like a NP that has it's own supply, but other than options like the mana stat or magic circuits that directly add on it's pretty much capped.

Honestly though your best bet is actually to use Conjoined Conjures from CardCaptor Sakura to mix your Nasuverse magic with another one that can be trained up, because the perk mentions that you can use either or both power sources.

>>51135471
I've had way too many identities to possibly list them all.

My most recent in this chain was Darrel Holland, a high-ranking researcher and project head within Armacham Technology Corporation. I primarily worked as the head of Project Dragoon, which meant to incorporate the telesthetic amplification technology that ATC had developed for Project Harbinger into a highly advanced suit of streamlined Powered Armor. This was designed to create a much smaller, somewhat weaker, but vastly more maneuverable powered assault suit which could be controlled via telesthetic impulses by a pilot with psychic potential. The hope was that the failed candidates of Harbinger who lacked the potential to be psychic commanders could be repurposed as Dragoon candidates via the use of specialized amplifiers.

Of course, when all of the shit with Alma started going down, I headed to Fairport and immediately started meddling with Genevieve's schemes while remaining in communication with Carson Salyers and the Board of Directors. As things got progressively worse I might have "accidentally" "misplaced" the attunement keys to one of the prototypes on a desk right in front of the Point Man, among various other things as the situation progressively went further and further to shit. I also shot Genevieve in the back of the head right before she would've killed Lt. Stokes and I helped Beckett use the Telesthetic Amplifier on Still Island to destroy Alma.

>>51135837
If they have the points for it, is the any reason for a magus heir to buy more circuits instead of the magic crest item?

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Is anyone working on an Age of Sigmar jump?

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+ Subnautica
+ The Long Dark
+ Evil Genius
+ Factorio
+ Diaries of a Spaceport Janitor
+ Plants vs Zombies
+ Hand of Fate
+ Ori and the Blind Forest
Most of these I could probably make, but that's a lot of work and I'm going to be pretty spent after my current project is done. I probably won't make anything else for a while until I attempt Star vs The Forces of Evil when the third season is finished. That's contingent on a LOT of questions getting answered in that season.
Of course, I said that before and look where we are now.

>>51132323
>Ogre Battle
I'm almost done I swear. Tomorrow is my day off so I'm planning to work on it for most of it.

>>51136008
Several times. It's actually pretty interesting to sit down and think if a character's motivations would fit with mine well enough to want to tug them along. I've even had a few times in my old chain where I paid the CP for a canon companion but simply couldn't convince them to come. Shala from Chrono Trigger among the most notable.

>>51135937
>>51135891
It's pretty convenient to take heat away from yourselves by conflating me with your actual problem, isn't it?

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Jump #161 VA-HALL – A
Age: 21
Gender: Female
Background: Drop In (0)
Race: Human (0)

Perks:
*Time to mix drinks and change lives (0)
*Big Bossu (200, Discount)
*Noir World (200) (This is absurdly useful)

Equipment
*Kotatsu (0)

Companions
*Import (200)
*Nanoswarm (600)

Drawback
*Crafty Corgis (+200)

It’s kind of funny but I think this was exactly the sort of jump I needed after the last few. I think perhaps I had been too concerned with saving the world in the last few jumps to actually enjoy it. Sometimes I guess I got a little lost in what I should and shouldn’t do to just actually live. While I certainly tried to help people here; there was something peaceful about being a janitor and part time bartender.

I really came to like the people I worked with and a few of my customers. Anna was happy to have someone else to talk to who responded to her. Jill was releaved to find out she wasn’t nuts (at least for that). I tried to be there to help Jill when She found out about leonore, honestly it was mostly her closer friends that did the majority of the work.

One thing I was glad about though I was able to buy a large amount of BTC stock, enough to get a large enough interest to keep VA-HALL-A open. Though and since my companions became regular customers (those who drank) Jill didn’t have to worry as much about money. It was funny to see her react to Yukari just popping up while she wasn’t looking. Honestly Yukari had a large part in keeping Jill financially sound. (I have to admit had I Companioned Akiha and Suika she probably would have had enough to retire to some tropical island somewhere by the end of my jump.

The sad thing about jumps like this is… they end. It was tough to say good bye to my friends there.

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Er, only the flesh-as-magic-output thing. I'm not quite sure what the Mana Plane's limit is, but by default Illya still struggles against weaker-than-usual Servants. Based on how modern magecraft works, I think it could a matter of Ilya's circuit count limiting the power of magic she can release safely at any given moment without frying herself even with access to an arbitrary quantity.

>>51135968
Rome can give you the bearing of a deity for your standard cult shenanigans, Infernals has an entire background dedicated to cult stuff and I recall there's something in Okami for it too.

>>51136008
All the time.

>>51135672
>>51136015

>dragaboo

Oh shit, this reminds me.

LEGEND OF THE 5 RINGS should've totally been on my jump wishlist.

I'm curious now though, what is Tarkir and why do they have dragaboos?

>>51136071
Not really. The crest gives you mo' circuits and generations of experience.

>>51136088
Nope.

I'd like to see one just for the laughs, though

>>51136101
Everyone hates you.

Would it be possible to get a reality marble as a NP?

>>51136101
You should know. You're trying very, very hard to pretend you are not an actual problem when the entire thread's been telling you to shut up and go away. How many times have you deflected other people calling you out on your bullshit this very thread?

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Please please let's focus on something other than my fuckups.

So a new edition of MCU Part 2's WIP. All perks and companion options? Done. I'm looking for critique to make sure everything is balanced and if I didn't forget anything. Please be mindful and let me know of things.

>>51136133
Yes.

>>51136139
Blind hate doesn't change facts. You telling me that you hate me over and over ultimately doesn't do anything.

>>51136133
Archer has UBW as his noble phantasm I believe.

>>51136163
And you telling everyone you hate Dirge and ASA doesn't change jack shit either. All it does is piss of the thread. It's not going to bring the jumps you claim to want back.

You could've asked nicely, like he said. You decided to get salty, and now all you've guaranteed is that nobody cares about your "facts" and you'll be laughingstock whenever you try to bring this up for the rest of your stay here.

>>51136101
We don't have a problem except where you stir one up for no reason. No one mentions dirge aside from you bringing him up to use against ASA. The only reason his jumps haven't been replaced is because no one cares enough about the settings to do it, but he's already given permission for us to make our own jumps to replace his. So what's the problem here, or are you just trying to stir up more shit using a jumpmaker that belongs to SB and not here?

>>51136160
>>51136166
Let me rephrase that, could I buy a reality marble as my Noble Phantasm in the jump.

I'm asking because it seems really expensive in the jump yet it seems like it would be cheaper to get one as a NP.

>>51136186
End of the day he doesn't want dirge back, because then he'd have to find a new way to attack both of them. Right now as it is he can make snide comments even if they get completely ignored and he can feel triumphant over it. That's how pitiful he's become.

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>>51136186
Just ignore the fucker.

>>51136201
What part of Yes is confusing to you?

>>51136112
>I'm curious now though, what is Tarkir and why do they have dragaboos?
Mongolian themed M:tG set. Dragons were driven to extinction ages ago and now humanoid clans are top dog, and they posture over who which of them are superior by way of emulating what they think dragons were like.

Then the biggest dragaboo goes back in time and changes the outcome of a fight between the infamous Nicol Bolas and Ugin (both draconic planeswalkers), which averts the extinction and the dragons resume stepping on the humanoids' collective necks while telling them how privileged they should feel over the whole thing.

>>51136112
Tarkir is one of the planes in Magic the Gathering, and was once home to dragons spawned from storms created by Ugin, a planeswalker dragon. Then Ugin died and the dragons stopped coming and suddenly the clans that had been struggling under them were able to kill them off. The clans took on traits based on what they saw as the most important (dangerous) aspects of the dragons, such as their cunning or their hard scales.

That's what we see in the first set. A world of cool three mana clans that do nifty things. Then Sarkhan comes along and time travels and suddenly Ugin is back and dragons never left and everything is shit for pretty much anyone who isn't a dragon or very lucky.

>>51136149
Probably not the best time to drop this, Red, people are too busy arguing. Unless you're trying to serve as a lightning rod for this shitstorm.

>>51135601
That sounds lovely. I haven't been to the IRC much lately (exams) , but I'll drop by in the near future and give some input if you'd like.

>>51136149
Looks good. I'm glad you're doing this.
Are there limits on the canon companion option? Can I take Cap? Vision? Loki? Thanos?

>>51136231
The part where it seemed odd that it would be possible to buy a 1000 CP capstone perk as my Noble Phantasm, I was worried that my initial question was unclear since the context might be important in this case.

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>>51136263
I just feel guilty enough being the catalyst of this entire fucking thing as is. So I'm hoping a new WIP will derail things. I mean it's got Strange Magic and OP as fuck Pym Particles and everything.

>>51136284
>Cap
Hell yes
>Vision
Trying to figure that one out
>Thanos
I'm likely going to rule no cosmic-grade entities, so no on Thanos.

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>>51136149
The Companion options look good. I don't see any holes or complaints. That Canon Companion Option is going to be a drain on my CP though.

The Perks look as good as they did the other night, so no complaints there. You're doing great work.

>>51136149
Looking good. Do you have ideas for what the capstone boosts will do?

How long till you think this will be finished?

>>51136294
It's because you only get one pass at the supplement, and there is a distinct power difference between servants, and masters. You can buy a huge amount more by buying higher ranks of the Mana stat, than you could by buying magic circuits.

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>>51136149
>Put this in Check/Can't do That

It might just be me, but the power to cut through ideological biases seems a lot more valuable than enforced neutrality-especially since people generally have more to lose from the former than the latter?

>Caging up the Joneses

To clarify-is this like, the prototype super serum for those Soviet supersoldiers or just generic super strength?

Other than that, looks good so far! Not actually a criticism but-I dimly remember, Sensual Voice is based on Enchantress who showed up in SHIELD at some point, right?

>>51136201
Yep.

>>51136238
>>51136253
Yikes.

>>51135992
>>51136028
>True Magic has was of getting more mana
Would it be fair then to say that a First Magic user with some experience could just... summon more mana? Like, you cast a summoning spell asking for mana, and the mana that appears is more than what the spell cost you to cast? Obviously, you'd be limited by how long it takes to cast, how much you can summon per casting, and how much mana you can actually hold at any one time, but is this too crazy?

>>51136149
>Bring Out Veronica
I never knew how much I needed this.
It's all looking good to me, Red.

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>>51136332
Yey. Still, doesn't hurt to get other opinions.

>>51136334
I have NO IDEA yet, I tend to save them for last when I'm working on notes. I'm really hoping to get this busted out by sunday. Hoping on it. Since I'm down to items, relics, and power armor customization, I'm... gonna try.

>>51136368
>It might just be me, but the power to cut through ideological biases seems a lot more valuable than enforced neutrality-especially since people generally have more to lose from the former than the latter?
Note the conditions on them.

>To clarify-is this like, the prototype super serum for those Soviet supersoldiers or just generic super strength?
The name should make it clear that it's based off of Jessica Jones and Luke Cage.

>Sensual Voice is based on Enchantress who showed up in SHIELD at some point, right?
Kilgrave from Jessica Jones.

>>51136186
It ultimately doesn't matter how you react either, it doesn't change anything.

>>51136196
Nobody actually wants replacement jumps. Only the actual shitposter even pretends to.

>>51136373
I would assume that you would only get as much or less than you put in, of course if you have ways to make your magic impossibly efficient by fiat. . .

>>51136395
>Hopefully Sunday
Awesome. Good luck Red!

>>51136326
I don't know why you even associate with it. He's said outright that it's the shitposter that asked him to leave, so he left. Besides jumpmakers come and go all the time, we'll get another couple jumpmakers like him before long. The only thing that makes him different right now is that shitposter has latched on to him as new bait. If people are really that concerned, they should pick up the slack and finish his jumps so we have our own versions of them for use, and shitposter won't be able to rant anymore.

>>51136373
I think that may be possible, or it may be possible to use it to summon a crest that would be perfectly compatible with you then graft that on for more power output, or an object that just produced it for you. Either way it would be a trick that would take some time to learn.

>>51136421
True magic thinks thermodynamics are some silly guidelines to keep children safe.

>>51136373
I'd say yes, you could definitely give yourself infinite mana with the First Magic. The issue after that is that you can generally only channel so much at once. So while you could have infinite mana if you're skilled enough with the First Magic it's not unlimited. You can only use so much at one time.

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>>51136395
>power armor customization
Why, why must you do this to me? I can only take so much!

>>51136421
Why though? If it was magecraft then I could understand why it would work like that, but I thought True Magic was supposed to be something like a "miracle?"

>>51136418
>Nobody actually wants replacement jumps. Only the actual shitposter even pretends to.
I'd rather have a replacement jump than to have the thing sit in WIP hell because anything associated with dirge has become shitposter bait. I'm almost expecting the shitposter to go on a crusade to get the rest of his jumps removed from the drive, with how persistent he's been about it.

>>51136488
It is. True Magic makes absolutely no sense and abides by none of the rules of normal magic, including the law of equivalent exchange. You can absolutely get more mana out of the First Magic than you put into it.

>>51132185
>>51133042
>>Reign of Fire
I've got an outline for it. Once I'm done with my current jump I'll get back to work on that.

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>>51136373
Phew, I thought I was the only one to think of something like this I also imagined couldn't logically be possible because reasons

Um. More seriously, if we based our estimates of the First's mana yield from other True Magic "systems" that do similar things (Zelritch's sticks, the Grail etc) I think it would be more probably that the First would let you create something-a ritual, a catalyst-that generates what is effectively mana ex nihilo. It's mentioned precision is key to using the magic, so I imagine it would start off with a very big ritual and the trick would be to make it more efficient until it's as portable as the 2nd's. Or maybe you can generate a small crest that supplies a lower rate of mana earlier on. Or maybe, just use the magic to increase your mana circuit count.

I dunno.

>>51136395
>note the conditions on them

I did, actually. It's only my opinion but I still think they're worth it the other way around. If you feel otherwise you could always buff the former and restrict the latter a little more, but of course it's your decision, I just think the former would generally get more mileage.

>>51136488
True Magic is a "miracle" in the sense it is something that can't be accomplished by modern means at all, not in the sense of being a solve-everything problem. Zelretch for example badly crippled his own magic circuits using the Second to blow up a TYPE.

>>51136418
Then stop pretending whatever you're doing is justified.

By your own logic, you've accomplished nothing except insult and belittle people worth more than you ever will be.

>>51136395
Is the voice perk the Killgrave's power at it's peak? It says 24 hours which is the same as when he used his power over loud speakers.

>>51136149
Will there be a Helicarrier item?