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ITT: we correct misconceptions There is no such thing as Dex

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ITT: we correct misconceptions

There is no such thing as Dex weapons.

Female martials exist only for titillation value.

Tarrasque is French.
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>>51129117
"Triple A" does not mean "Good"
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Something being popular does not mean that it is good.
Something being unpopular does not mean that it is good either.
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>>51129117
>What is a rapier?

>Who are Eowyn, Boudica, etc?

>Since when does Fantasyland #1547 have France?

>What is bait?
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>shit thread started by shit manga character
No surprise.
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>>51129117
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>>51129224
>Boudica

A shitty warlord that lost as soon as she faced actual resistance?
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>>51129193
That CZ is airshit.
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>>51129117
Paladins can't fall until they burn two orphanages, each of them housing approximately 30 orphans minimum.

Fun is really a buzzword for people who can't appreciate your plot.

OP is straight.
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>>51129117
Actions alone don't make people good or evil if the intentions arent the same.
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>>51129224
>Putting Eowyn, the slayer of the Witch King of Angmar (with help from Merry, of course) in the same group as Boudica, destroyer of her own people and Roman cocksleeve.
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>>51129307
DIO
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>>51129117
>Undeath is, besides everything else that it is, easily used as a metaphor for depression.
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>>51129573
Didn't you know that being metal enough allows you to travel back in time?
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>>51129117
So those are the misconceptions?
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>>51130139
Also one more:

>You are not adopted
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>>51129224
>Who are Eowyn
A fictional character
>Boudica
A dead meme >>51129307
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>>51129117
I'd argue that many weapons have a minimum dex prerequisite.
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>>51129117
>There is no such thing as Dex weapons.

An AR-15 has a kick like a handicapped kitten, can be fired by a 6 year old girl who wants to be just like her daddy, and will also absolutely blow the fuck out of anyone that happens to be on the front end of it depending entirely on how well it's aimed. The bullet either glances or hits one of your rolling blobs of ass fat and does 1 damage or it detonates one of your vital organs and then causes them to gyser out of the exit wound and does your entire HP, unless it hits you in the face, that's a critical hit so it does twice your entire HP just to add insult to injury by insisting you have a closed casket funeral.
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>>51129117
Something being ahistorical doesn't mean it's not fun.
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>>51129117
>there are no such thing as Str weapons
FTFY.
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>>51129117
>Tarrasque is French.
But I've never seen it surrender.
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>>51130530
Well it might have been a hippo that ended up in france, and hippos do not understand surrender, only hate.
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>>51129224
>>What is a rapier?

A large, relatively heavy sword which required considerable strength to use effectively. Seriously, rapiers weighed at least as much as other one-handed swords, had longer blades which made them more difficult to control if you had weak wrists and generally needed even more strength than most weapons to use effectively.
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>>51130530
>>51130530

Actually...

>The king of Nerluc had attacked the Tarasque with knights and catapults to no avail. But Saint Martha found the beast and charmed it with hymns and prayers, and led back the tamed Tarasque to the city. The people, terrified by the monster, attacked it when it drew nigh. The monster offered no resistance and died there. Martha then preached to the people and converted many of them to Christianity. Sorry for what they had done to the tamed monster, the newly Christianized townspeople changed the town's name to Tarascon.

But it came from Galatia, nowdays Turkey, so the joke falls flat. Too bad.
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>>51129117
>There is no such thing as Dex weapons.

>what is gun
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>>51130732
The difficulty of using a rapier is that you have the weight of a two-handed sword used with one hand in positions where upper body muscles can't work at their optimum. They are exceptionally easy to control due to weight distribution relative to the handle, and frighteningly fast.
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>>51129117
That helmet looks like it blocks a lot of vision.
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>>51129117
Is there any rape this time?
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>>51129117
People's physical and mental capabilities/attributes aren't determined entirely by their gender, but they are slightly effected by it. Slightly. The biggest influences are actually culture, personality, and lifestyle.
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>>51130982
Gobbo Slayer doesn't care, the power of autism works like a radar for him.
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>>51129117
>Female martials
You really need to qualify this better. It's really uncommon as standard operating procedure standing armies, but those are pretty exceptional and recent. And the front isn't usually that far from home in a premodern setting.

Barbarians lugged women and kids and goats and all their shit to the front because they settled as they went. Camp followers handled logistics and field engineering voluntarily or otherwise, and would be pressed into actual combat service in an emergency. Civilians in a town getting sacked would fight, women included. Naval history has ample records of women tagging along for personal reasons and becoming fairly martial at sea -sometimes above the board (only the captain's wife knows how to navigate now that the captain's dead) and sometimes less so (dude who dropped from the rigging six years into their service had tits, or an old woman is claiming military benefits). The last is where we have some of the better documented examples of careerism among "female martials," because it's late enough that we have access to records but early enough that women wouldn't universally get caught in a medical exam or some shit. Also, granted it's hard to get a bead on how common this is both because the confirmed stories were popular enough to be overblown in their time and because presumably not everyone who snuck aboard got caught, got reported once caught, or claimed benefits.

>>51130772
>Monster tamed by woman offers no resistance when slaughtered.
Very similar to some old unicorn myths.
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>>51129117
>There is no such thing as Dex weapons.


You ever watch a knife fight, OP?
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>>51129117
>There is no such thing as Dex weapons

There's really no such thing as a Str weapon either. If it's heavy/badly balanced enough to be hard to pick up and swing, you're either incredibly out of shape or it's kind of a shit weapon.
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>>51129536
So Hitler wasn't evil, because his intention was to usher Germany into a golden age of security and prosperity, right?
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>>51130530
Can I politely ask you to stop? This stopped being funny about 10 years ago, now it's just disrespectful and insulting.
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>>51131010
>Very similar to some old unicorn myths.
or marriage
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>>51130982
Most helmets do block vision, so you don't get stabbed in the fucking face.
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>>51131213
See? Works exactly as intended.
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>>51129139
THIS.
too many people still seem to think that...
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>>51131022
Bad example, because proper knife fighting is a brawl where you also have a pointy bit of metal to kill them with. You're punching, kicking, and grappling as much as you're trying to shank.
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>>51131204
His intentions were to usher Germany into a golden age of security and prosperity at the expense of everyone he could catch and work to death in labor camps.
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>>51129420

Thanks for not calling OP a faggot.
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>>51129628

Dio is an immortal vampire, why do you think they named an anime vampire after him?
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>>51131254
The pre-Muslim Arab myths usually have a bit of that in them. Prostitute bares her breasts, unicorn (smaller, more goatlike, had another name I don't remember) suckles milk, she grabs it by the horn and men kill it. The "tamed man" thing is kind of a common myth in the ancient near east. Gilgamesh has Enkidu being tamed by a prostitute as well.

Christian myths give us the virgin, treat her as some kind of Mary analogue, and treat the unicorn's death as a Christ analogue.
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>>51131262
Except you raise the visor when fighting so you could see the other guy, and so you could breathe. Visor was for when you're charging in the open and there's arrows and lances coming the other way.
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>>51130530

In the original myth it actually did, was paraded through town, then was executed.
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>>51129117
>There is no such thing as Dex weapons.
This is one thing GURPS did right, all weapons use Dex to see if you hit and Str to calculate the damage.
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>>51130814
>What is dumb bitches getting face-slapped by a deagle's recoil?

Try actually shooting a gun and tell me it's a weapon for low-strength waifs.
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Aren't female warriors of note more or less just a rape hentai thing?
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>>51131262
>>51131341
I don't think OP's character knows how to remove the visor.
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>>51131423
Warriors of note in general are somewhere between made up and vastly inflated by our imaginations.
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>>51131374
Read what he wrote then read what you wrote and decide if you're retarded
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>>51130459
>shit liberals believe
An AR isn't a death machine and temporary cavitation doesn't cause organ geysers, you fucktard. Pic related: entry wound on a 'yote. Show me where the shower of viscera is.
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>>51130459
>.223
>killing anyone

Tell me more about your magical oversized varmint round.
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>>51131445
The visor is his face.
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>>51131536
>One tiny entry wound and the thing's still plenty dead
Not even saying the guy's right, just that your argument doesn't follow well from your evidence. Also flesh is weaker IRL than in games. Who would have thought?
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>>51131204
He never did evil actions in the first place though. Bad example.
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>>51131578
I think he was referring to the fact that you don't explode from a single hit of .223/5.56.

I mean, you won't be having a fun time, but your lungs won't explode out of your ass if it hits you either.
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>>51131578
Well, no shit, it's still a gun and it'll still kill something dead if you put the shot where it needs to go. But it doesn't give you the fucking Bloody Mess perk unless you're shooting M193 at malnourished gooks in close quarters, and even then it's not as exaggerated as he's describing.
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>>51131498
Sometimes they're batshit insane. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/man-high-on-meth-fights-off-15-police-officers-while-masturbating-in-public-9030429.html
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>>51129224
>>Who are Eowyn, Boudica, etc?
fake and gay
as much as i like boudica, she is worse then Vercingetorix of the gauls.
And inferior to madb
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>>51130958
>>51130732
What part of "you can swap your STR bonus for your DEX bonus with this weapon" and "THIS IS A GODDAMN GAME" do you not understand?
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>>51129536
Depends on the world you're running, and whether the gods care more about action or intent - or if you have gods in said world, for that matter.
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>>51129117
I went and read that manga just for the helmet and I have never read a manga before.

reading right to left is weird why not flip the image?

Goblin slayer is based.
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>>51131695
>reading right to left is weird
After a while you get so used to it, you accidentily start reading western comics right to left.
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>>51131213
fucking frogs
>needs an Italian to win a war
get your Parisian arse out of here.

>>51131325
>named dio
he's named after Ronnie James Dio.
Just like SPEEDWAGON is REO speedwagon.
vanilia ice.
killer queen.
etc etc
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>>51131572
>tfw you will never twist the world into thinking you're pragmatic when you're actually doing retarded shit
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>>51131732
>needs an Italian to win a war
Are we really doing this? Where does this frustration even come from? Did a Frenchman fuck your girlfriend?
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>>51131536
>damn liberals!
>gun shoot me a 'ypte

Actually laughed out loud.

Thanks man. Can by you tell me more about your life?
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>>51131839
>Where does this frustration even come from?
anglicized huguenots and some moor
you tell me
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>>51131204
Can you give a even more retarded counterexample?
You basically just cut off half the things he did so it serves your straw man.
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This thread is literally nothing but bait. There is no fish. It is just lines getting caught on other lines.
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>>51131712
I guess its a common mistake for beginners
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>>51129536
That's retarded.
>I assassinated an incompetent and tyrannical king, stabilized a nation in the aftermath of a devastating war, built numerous universities and hospitals to usher my nation into a golden age, and helped reign in the excesses of the aristocracy. I only really did those things because I want power and respect and people are less likely to revolt if you treat them well.

>I assassinated the rightful king and all of his sons, marrying his eldest daughter and sending the rest to become nuns. I started a costly war and ceased investing in infrastructure to fund those wars. The lack of investment led to revolts and spreading of plague which I responded to violently and ruthlessly to halt the spread of the plague and prevent any future rebellions. I did this because I believed that the world would be better off if both our kingdoms were united under the same ruler.

So the former is evil and the latter is good? Actions speak louder than words.
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>>51131204
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT NOT AGAIN
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>>51131213

>>/tumblr/
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>>51131656
The point is that there is no such thing as a dex weapon. Pretty much all weapons require relatively high strength to use effectively. A strength 7 pussy wouldn't be able to stab someone to death effectively no matter how fast he is and drawing a longbow made for war requires massive amounts of strength, far more than your average jackass.

The point is that what people commonly think of as finesse weapons actually require considerable strength to use effectively.
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>>51132109
>So the former is evil and the latter is good?
nah both are evil, if you dig kant.
one just has a better outcome.
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>>51132166
Crossbow + that hook loading mechanism where you just stand up
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>>51132109
>So the former is evil and the latter is good?
I'm sure if you look around you'll find plenty of Hollywood movies where that's exactly the case, only they'll make sure to paint the latter in a better light where the "rightful king" would be a tyrant and the eldest daughter would be in love with hero and the second kingdom will also be cartoonishly evil.
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>>51132166
But all weapons also take finesse to use effectively. It doesn't matter how strong you are if you don't have any balance and can't take a step without falling over.

To be an effective fighter requires both dexterity (which isn't speed as much as it is balance, hand-eye coordination and control over your muscle groups) and strength (which also makes you faster).

In general, separating weapons into Str and Dex groups is retarded, since all weapons require both. That's why I like systems where Str defines damage and Dex defines to-hit chance.
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>>51131695
Your newness is quaint and it makes me feel comfy
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>>51132148
That aint even tumblr dog. It's meta
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>>51132166
So basically strength based weapons should have a base dex requirement and dex based weapons should have a base strength requirement?
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>>51129117
>There is no such thing as Dex weapons.

The fuck? In reality the it's almost exclusively the opposite. Have ever seen an actual battleaxe? It's a tiny little joke of a weapon that's a light as possible for, you guess it, speed and dexterity.

Who won on the medieval battlefield, the strong peasantry or the highly trained professionals who honed their fighting skills and speed (read; dexterity)? When using a sword is it better to properly align to an edgy using your dexterity then to hit on the flat of a blade?

Hell even bows aren't really strength weapons beyond needing X amount of physical strength to draw the bowstring. It's not like you can poor extra strength into it to make it shoot harder, the strength of the bow is limited by the draw-weight and the rest is your aim. Literally a dex weapon.

Even two handed longswords are mostly about skill, dexterity, and practiced grace. Have you ever even seen medieval fighting manuals? That shit is as kung fu as any martial art with its locking elbows and sliding your blade around on the enemy's to keep his cutting line away from you and your cutting line closer to him.

The only real 'strength' weapons there are would be a gigantic war hammer, maybe. But in my games because I like clear character choices and distinguished I don't care about realism as much so two handers are strength (including longbows) and one handers are dex (including shortbow- weak enough drawstring that even a women could draw)

If you do your game in any way differently, you are literally retarded and doing it very, very wrong. Fuck you OP.
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>>51129117
You mean that all weapons are dex weapons, right?
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>>51132962
>strong peasantry
Stopped reading there
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>>51132999

Peasents who spend all day lifting gigantic sacks of grain and rocks, climbing up and down ladders and plucking haybales, peasants who physically grab and flip over sheep to sheer them aren't stronger then nobility who live most of their lives in a castle learning how to swing swords around?

Oops, silly me. Guess I didn't know that doing physically demanding activities doesn't actually make you stronger, my mistake.
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>anyone ITT seriously implying guns require above-average body strength
no, /k/.
- /fit/
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>>51129117
Two swords of equal lentgh being wielded isn't fantasy. Two axes and such, only in viking chronicles that also have fantastical elements.

Check chapter 76:
http://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Achille_Marozzo

Check "double side swords":
http://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Giacomo_di_Grassi

About fighting women, this might be of interest:

" I typically suggest a tapering bastard sword for my novice female students... I also find my female students enjoy study of the spear or long staff, it being an equalizing weapon which requires more precision than strength... However, each person must always choose the tool they feel best fits their disposition as a fighter... the historical source manuals are more than clear that skill transcends strength alone and skill is a matter of several blending factors that are independent of gender."
Considerations for Female Practitioners in Renaissance Martial Arts? By J. Clements, ARMA Director
http://www.thearma.org/femp.htm
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>>51131353
GURPS and literally every game worth of being played.
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>>51133160
>About fighting women, this might be of interest:
that does sort of fall in line with what the op said, tournament fighters are peakcocks of martial.
>double axes.
Never understood why people would do that, the double side sword makes some sense, I don't have the time to read through it
at length but what i get from it is that the use of two side swords is it's own style. That is to say foot work and form are key, it is as much art as it is fight. That is not something that axes is nessarily geared towards and seems to be as much fantasy as the gae bolg
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>>51129117
Jeanne d'arc.
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>>51129612
I make my zombies depressed and shambling, and my skeletons quick and cackling.
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>>51133312
>zombies are lowest employees
>skeletons are managers
figures
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>>51132933
No, all should be dex weapons and all have strength requirement. Even knifes and daggers. You can use the weapon with less strenght than the required, but you get massive penalties. Amongst other effects, using two hands (if possible) reduces the requirement.
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>>51131213
What? i think its still funny. Its always been disrespectful and insulting though. When was the last time you actually lived down something you fucked up? If you did, you have kind friends or none.
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>>51133348
Nah, skeletons are more like they're all in on a joke at the expense of the living.

Zombies are the dead that still want to be living.
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>>51133386
>>51133386
No you have friends that respect you.
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>>51133304
Resuming two swords:
>First master one hand
>Then master another
>Then master using both simultaneously
>Swords never stay still
>One of them always defends
>One of them always attacks
>Your oponent never knows which is defending and which is attacking, which will parry and which will bait.
>Not to be used against armored enemies
>Neither in massed fights like battles, where one should mind coordination of the group more than of the hands
>Impressive at tournaments
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>>51133305
Fought like one duel and never killed anybody, she was a tactician and a standard bearer.
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>>51133420
And yet she still pulled off some crazy shit.
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>>51133456
Strategically. Not martially.
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>>51133465
well. I guess.

In that case, there's cases of a couple japanese ho's being renowned specifically for martial ability, among other things. Nakano takeko, and tomoe gozen. Nakano specialized in the naginata, tomoe was adept with bow and sword both.
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>>51129538
You're right. One of these things actually happened.
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>>51131712
I switch back and forth
>read latest dungeon meshi
>start reading it left to right
>read latest autumnlands
>start reading it right to left
worst thing is when the panels make enough sense backwards that you don't notice till like page 3
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>>51129117
Call of Cthulhu is not about going insane or getting slaughtered any more than dying is what D&D is about. They are risks and consequences in what PCs do in the game.
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>>51133122
Allow me to make clear his intended point.
>peasent leveys
>existing
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>>51133749
Exactly. However, if both were fictional then one would still better then the other. ;^)
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>DMPCs are not inherently bad: however they are very easily abused/done poorly so the assumption is understandable.
>A natural 20 does not mean that a skill check will pass no matter what: a wizard with strength 8 will never be able to bench press 3pl8 without assistance.
>Caster/martial imbalance between players is a meta problem and only arises through shitty roleplaying/world building on both the part of the players and GM.
>speed>strength, or even that strength=!speed.

>>51129117
Platinum bait

>>51130308
All RPG characters are fictional.

>>51132217
Common misconception: Kantian morality is even vaguely valid.
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>>51129117
OP can never stop sucking cock
OP is always a fag, sometimes he's a cool fag like Freddie Mercury. This is not one of those instances, he a regular fag like Chris Crocker.
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>>51129117
>ITT: we correct misconceptions
>No sources or any arguments.
You have violated the NAP, prepare to receive atomic strike at you location.
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>>51131732
>he's named after Ronnie James Dio.

Reading comprehension. Get it.
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>>51130982
>depending on vision
A common mistake for beginners.
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>>51129420
What if they slip down the stair.
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>>51129117
Elves are actually kinda alright.
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>>51131374
>gun
>instantly thinking of le ebin deagle meme

>>>/out/
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>>51132933
T H I S
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I
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>>51133305
>this meme again
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>>51129117
Genetic diversity is a meme
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>>51131204
If you remove the first comma, yes.
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>>51135562
They travel horizontally, then suddenly snap to a corrected vertical position.
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>>51131304
>>His intentions were to usher Germany into a golden age of security and prosperity at the expense of everyone he could catch and work to death in labor camps.

He only caught and worked to death only those he considered less than human, so he might have been the inspiration for the whole 'Eldar calls humans monkeigh' idea
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>>51131982
>haha you proved that post wrong
>man your life must suck to know things

Great argument pal
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>>51141356
diff anon, how are 'yotes by you.
up here we've driven them off, enough guns and big dogs to make them want to fuck wolves
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>>51141422
They are annoying but they arent that prevalent around here. Every once in awhile my stepdad and I have to pop a few just to keep their numbers down.
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>>51129307

But her rebellion gave us one of the few accurate Roman pre-battle speeches!

"Ignore the racket made by these savages. There are more women than men in their ranks. They are not soldiers—they're not even properly equipped. We've beaten them before and when they see our weapons and feel our spirit, they'll crack. Stick together. Throw the javelins, then push forward: knock them down with your shields and finish them off with your swords. Forget about plunder. Just win and you'll have everything."

It's so refreshing to read a blunt and down to Earth thing for once.
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>>51141284
>He only caught and worked to death only those he considered less than human
Which was a considerable amount of the world, anon.
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>>51129117
Every melee weapon is a dex weapon.

A guy who knows how to swing his sword around effectively will school a man that doesn't.

A fighter has to be strong AND dexterous.
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>>51129117
>There is no such thing as Dex weapons.
wouldn't a gun be a dex weapon

you don't need much strength to use one
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>>51129117
The best example of an RL female fighter was that bisexual French duellist/actor/dancer who schooled people for fun and profit and was so awesome everyone just pretended not notice her deviant ways.

I don't remember her name, but she's most famous for infiltrating a nunnery because nuns are hot and she wanted some of dat.
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>>51129224
>Boudica
>Not Tomoe, Artemisia, Lozen and all of the Dahomey's Amazons
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>>51144725
Telling that to D&D ridden powerleveling neckbeards are useless anon.
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>>51129307
>Warlord
>Had her children murdered and raped in front of her and had ALL of her husband owned land taken by the Romans even if he left part to Nero.
Honestly she did nothing wrong.
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>>51134251

>Common misconception: Kantian morality is even vaguely valid.

No, it is internally consistent and his conclusions follow logically from his axioms, and is therefore, by definition, perfectly valid. There's a reason he's still entry-level reading for undergraduate philosophy courses, and I'll give you a hint: it's not as an example of shoddy logic.

If think he's wrong, say that, don't use a word that doesn't apply.
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>>51144826
At least they didn't try to build a nation by dropping more bombs on it than everybody together dropped all over the world during WW2.
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>>51144845
How about you just explain why he's Beginner-tier Philosophy, instead of acting superior?
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>>51144864
Japan had that coming being shits after WWI, and weak government.
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>>51144864
It worked for Japan so why wouldn't it work for Vietnam/Iraq/Whateverfuckistan?
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>>51144872

He's beginner-tier philosophy because his system of morality is as black and white as they come, and the basis of a huge number of modern philosophers' work. Being unfamiliar with his work and trying to study later philosophers is a hiding to nothing, so he gets introduced alongside Plato and Aristotle.

His writing isn't easy, in fact like most German translations it's clunky and hard to focus through, but most courses just pick out the important excerpts in manageable portions and use them as readings.

His logic is basically faultless, which is part of the reason his work was so important, and hence why I was a bit triggered by anon claiming his morality isn't valid. It may be wrong or misguided, which is apparently anon's opinion, but it is one of the most impeccably valid moral systems around.
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>>51144924
Morality isn't really black and white, which is where Kant's flaw seems to be from what you've said, if I'm wrong, correct me.
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>>51129117
(You)
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>>51131341
>Except you raise the visor when fighting so you could see the other guy, and so you could breathe. Visor was for when you're charging in the open and there's arrows and lances coming the other way.
Congratulations, you are a fucking moron. You are so fucking stupid that retards look smugly upon you and think, "What a fucking mongoloid."

Look up Great helms. Look up Corinthian helms. Look up Sallet helms. Look up dozens of infantry helms that were most certainly not meant to have a visor up while on foot and fighting with people.

And after you do that, go fuck yourself with a rusty table saw.
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>>51144941

Nah, and of course most people and probably most philosophers would agree with you. However, there's a big difference between a flawed belief and an invalid argument.

See, Kant made a convincing, logically sound and (importantly) logically valid argument for a pretty black-and-white moral system, which is why he is so well-regarded. He was persuasive in claiming that reason gives rise to morality, rather than vice versa, and that actually represented a complete reversal of the accepted formula (first proposed by Aristotle, to give you an idea of how ingrained it was by Kant's time).

Philosophy should be a compulsory course at a tertiary level, because even in the first months it forces you to take your personal moral values and question their consistency - I don't want to start throwing around buzzwords but I'm sure you can imagine the kind of campus resident who would benefit from being required to apply internally-consistent logic to their own sense of morality.
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>>51145040
>internally consistent logic
>university campus

Be prepared for it to be dismissed as a tool of white hetcis patriarchy/zionist illuminati.
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>>51129307
To be fair, they did a good amount of before-battle shit to get the Celts at a disadvantage. Didn't they rape both of Boudica's daughters and made her watch, then sent her back? No wonder mistakes were made.
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Anything anybody on /tg/ says has absolutely no meaning on how you should play or have fun because everybody here is full of shit, myself included.
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>>51145040
So I got it right? Yeah, I know the kind of people who could do with that. Lacking a lot of formal education on my part, it seems to me reason is the only place morality could have arisen from, even most religious moral codes have semi consistent reasoning.
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>>51129117
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>>51144759
Julie d'Aubigny anon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_d'Aubigny

I also remember another one who was pretty much the patron saint of Bards, though I can't remember the name.
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>>51145076

My point exactly. Two sides of the same stupid coin.

>>51145086

Yes, you got it right, sorry I wasn't clear about that at all.

But of course, as you've said, it also seems self-evident that reason gives rise to morality, rather than that goodness gives rise to ratonality. So on some level, you instinctively agree with Kant, but don't believe the issue to be black-and-white.

That's the kind of thing that makes this stuff so fascinating, and precisely why Kant is a great introductory figure despite his heavy writing.
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>>51144888
>It worked for Japan

Anon, Japan was an enemy nation during WW2 while South Vietnam, the nation that got more bombs than EVERYBODY during WW2 was an US dependant/ally.
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>>51133312
I make my zombies raving insane from having one foot in the world of the living, one in the world of the dead, and beinf aware of their physical/mental degradation while being unable to do anything about it. Skeletons are sadists and thrill-killers, usually taking their time
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>>51136963
You can see the effects of inbreeding creeping in, just look at the size of their eyes.
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>>51129117
>Female martials exist only for titillation value.
Dites cela à mon visage, et pas à l'avenir et voir ce qui se passe.
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>>51145130
I wouldn't say that humans being basically benevolent had nothing to do with it, but yeah, I suppose you could say on the reason part I agree with Kant, at least mostly. I know nothing else about his brand of morality other than what you've outlined. Also, it occurs to me that the anon you originally responded to was trying to say that Kant's moral code was an invalid philosophy to live by, and not that it was invalid logically.
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Guess that OP must have really triggered someone.
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>>51145144
If bombs cab turn an enemy nation into a friendly nation then clearly they'll turn a friendly nation into an even friendlier nation.
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>>51145148
>"Dare you enter my magic realm", sadist version.
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>>51145188

>I know nothing else about his brand of morality other than what you've outlined

Get reading, my man, I guarantee you'll get a kick out of it. Even just diving into the Wiki page and getting lost in the links will pique your interest.

>it occurs to me that the anon you originally responded to was trying to say that Kant's moral code was an invalid philosophy to live by, and not that it was invalid logically

Entirely possible, if not likely, but if he wants to start dismissing Kantian philosophy in a sinle throwaway sentence I feel no compunction about correcting his semantics like an autist.
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>>51129117
>There is no such thing as Dex weapons.
>What is a poisoned needle?
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>>51145248
I'll make a mental note. I'm trying to find the motivation to read all the original, Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock stories for my first time, I keep getting distracted.
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>>51144888
Well we took measures to rebuild Japan. And we didn't let them have an army that didn't follow our commands.

Plus, they were afraid of being invaded by Soviets. Because this was the era when being invaded by Soviets. Which is reasonable given Soviet occupation tendencies.
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>>51145266

Well I certainly can't fault your taste, Godspeed anon
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>>51145266
> Arthur Conan Doyle
Try the lost world, as well as the entire cycle of stories with professor Challenger. Nice SF/Fantastical shorts including ghosts, the whole earth population "dying" because of space-aether, as well as an almost lovecraftian tale where it is revealed that our earth is in fact a fuckhuge living creature .
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>>51145358
I'll stick to Sherlock for the moment, I don't have a lot of disposable income and i got these because they were cheap and it's got all of Doyle's novels and short stories, featuring Sherlock and Watson, but I'll look into getting The Lost World, if my local bookstore has it.
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>>51145253
Not a dex weapon.

'Dexterity' is a fake stat, anyway. At most it would be a derived stat from Strength.
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>>51145419
Take all the time you need. Sherlock's novels are already a must, anyway.
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>>51129117
Op is indeed a massive faggot
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>>51129307
>DIO claims 230,000

DIOOOOOOOOO
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>>51145431
Tell me strength did this.

Manual dexterity is a thing, or there wouldn't be words to describe it, dipshit.
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>>51145562
Looks photoshopped desu senpai, not that strenght helps you to photoshop any better so it would even then count as a feat of dexterity.
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>>51131010
Nearly all christian myths are peaceful.

Except matamoros, whom did nothing wrong.
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>>51131732
>>51131839
>win
Pepe la botella...
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>>51130732
>>51130958

>rapier
>large sword
3rd most autistic thing on /tg/.

Weight avg. 1 kg (2.2 lb)
Blade length avg. 104 cm (41 in)
Width avg. 2.5 cm (0.98 in) to sharp point
This is not a TWO HANDED WEAPON MORONS.
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>>51145280
Tell me more about these soviet occupation tendencies.
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>>51145431
>>51145253
The real misconception is that strength is necessary to do damage.

A child with a sword or pistol can easily kill you... by ACCIDENT.
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>>51145280
Tbh there would had been nothing wrong with nips getting to experience little of bit of their own medicine.
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>>51148092
That is a pretty big sword.

A katana
Weight: 1.1-1.3 kg
Length: 60-73 cm
So possibly less than 2/3rds as long and only slightly heavier. Lets compare how heavy each would feel by looking at the moment caused when carrying a sword by the handle. For simplicity we will say all of the weight is in the blade.

A katana weighs 1.3 kg and is 73 cm long. While the weight is distributed we can simplify it to be the same as putting all the weight in the center of the blade. So in effect we have 1.3 kg 36.5 cm from the hand. 1.3*9.81*0.365=4.65 N/M So in effect the weight you are feeling from the blade is the same as a 4.65 newton force (because kg is mass not weight) 1 meter from your hand. Doing the same with a rapier we have 1*9.81*0.52=5.10 N/M.

The end result is that when comparing the two weapons a rapier which is a one handed weapon will actually feel heavier than a katana which is a two handed weapon. Even assuming the rapier has a proportionally heavier handle the two weapons would at least feel similar in heaviness but again the rapier is one handed.
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>>51131204
Godwin's law is all but dead now.
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>>51147434
>Looks photoshopped desu senpai
http://www.demilked.com/miniature-pencil-tip-carvings-sculptures-miniatures-salavat-fidai/

>posts baseless opinions without bothering to fact-check them
>trips over wordfilter
I guess we know who made Intelligence their dump stat.
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>>51149157
desu still looks faked, can tell from pixels senpai.
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>>51132166
>pretty all weapons require relatively high strenght
Never saw a headline reading, wife kills husband?
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>>51149085
If President Trump can do it, that must make it okay.
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>>51145184
Post sous-estimé.
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>>51131514

Makes perfect sense to me.
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>>51147676

Wrong. Go read the Bible, start with Cain and Abel. My favorite is Samson wrecking everyone with a donkey jawbone. When you're done with that, try The Song of Roland.
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>>51131982

I guess this is your first time seeing a real American.
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>>51131003
>Implying genes aren't important in determining your potential for swoleness.
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>>51145419
Libraries my dude.
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>>51129117
>Robots are the most superior of melee fighters
>Women do not exist
>A word has origins

Well I guess there's some level of correctness here.
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>>51154541
I have never seen a woman before
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>>51154450
Tell me if you live in a primarily republican and fairly highly religious area, do you think any of the libraries within 30 miles have any really good books?
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>>51154710
Are you implying that being primarily republican and highly religious means there cannot be good books?
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>>51154762 that it's rural, but lots of the stupid kind of Pres-Elect supporters where I live, and most people are not of the reading sort, unless of course, they're in jail. The local library is shit and the ones within reasonable distance(Public transport) are all shit.
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>>51154856
That was supposed to start "I'm sure that has more to do with that it's rural" weird.
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>>51130651
Seriously don't fuck with a hippo they make honey badgers look like kittens. They drag lions into deep water and drown them, bite crocodiles in half and drag sharks out of the water so that they can trample them to death. Also their skin is 4cm thick ways 25% of their body weight and is mostly bulletproof.
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>>51133987

Did you even read the post? That's the point. If real life weapons didn't require dex, then the strong peasents would have existed as the armies.

BUT OH WAIT

They didn't. The result was a highly trained class of nobility who fought in most wars. Dexterity. Weapons.

That was the point of the argument. Real history was backing me up. lrn2reed
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>>51145077
This. They failed to rape her along with her daughters. It's bad manners to throw out perfectly editable Oyakadon.
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>>51135529
>not using vision
You're asking for a TPK.
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>>51129117
>There is no such thing as Dex weapons.
FUCKING THANK YOU
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>>51144958
Are those helmets meant to be used alone or with other soldiers with helmets?
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>>51129117
A comment misconception is that people read Goblin Slayer for any reason besides the Rape.
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>>51155671
see>>51155382
All weapons are actually based on human dexterity, strength isn't really a factor in their use, save bows and even then it's more dexterity and strength than strength alone,for instance a Greatsword in D&D would weigh less than 3kg in reality, they were not slow weapons.
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>>51135529
This. I played a blind non-magical character once. Faggot GM told me I kept on running into walls & that screeching doesn't let me use echolocation. It's like that time I blew up a house & the GM believes in this "sound" meme.
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>>51155814
Wrong. My character once sprayed a machine gun at his enemies. It was the best plan ever. The enemies were scared shitless when my bullet-riddled PC hit himself everytime & surrendered immediately. Faggot GM said I "bled out" as an excuse to kill off my awesome PC.
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>>51155931
I said in reality, games sometimes have backwards ass logic, most man-portable firearms do not require strength to use, and those few that do, usually require that they be mounted on the ground, removing most strength from the equation, nobody cares about your PC particularly because nowhere in there does that story refute my point.
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>>51131329
>Invincible man tamed by beautiful woman who then leads him to his doom
Samson and Dalilah, in the Bible
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>>51155996
False. D&D is realistic. See Goblin Slayer. He can silently kill screaming enemies just fine, hammer pegs into rocks & no one hears. It's very realistic because he does it in a cave where sound echoes & thus no one can hear. My faggot GM once said that it isn't & that realistically he'd get heard but he's the same idiot who thinks stabbing yourself with an infected dagger to scare enemies has consequences.
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>>51155831
>>51155931
>>51156141
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>>51131732
If you're gonna be all knowledgeable, you might as well go all the way and know that the Corsicans don't think of themselves as Italian, either. They're Corsicans.
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>>51156166
All the banners we got, and this could've been one of them
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>>51155382
>>51155814
Y'all missing the point. Implying there are DEX weapons means that there would be non-DEX weapons. There are neither, its just Weapons.
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>>51130732
>accurate description of a rapier
>all replies are nerds assblasted at MUH MENTAL IMAGE being ruined
Rapier's fucking fun to fight but it's nothing if not pissing hard on your arm muscles. Even for a practiced historical sabreur it's brutal to get used to it.
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>>51133773
>worst thing is when the panels make enough sense backwards that you don't notice till like page 3
If I had a nickel...
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>>51129117
Nunchucks?
Crossbow?
Quarterstaff?
Guns?

No dex?
Demn.

Also female martials exist, they're just stupidly rare.
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>>51136963
I can only assume this man is attempting to create a genetic clone of himself through the natural reproductive process.
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>>51159830
He has a PhD. I presume his thesis is a most interesting one.
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>>51152467
>old testament
>only christian mythos
Anon.... that is cheating.

Also cain is the bad guy.

That said jesus really did like church-stste separation.
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>>51133160
Double side swords was more of a dexterity thing.Giacomo di Grassi says in the beginning it's not a battlefield thing/

However, two swords of equal length were used in combat, particularly in Asia, though they were more short sword length to make them more manageable.

>citing John Clements
I seriously hope you don't do this.

Anyways, warrior women were a thing, but were relatively rare. The famous warrior women became famous because they were exceptional and shouldn't really be used as the norm.

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>>51129117
>There is no such thing as Dex weapons

Oh, you sound like a joy to play with.
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>>51145184
*Dites moi ça face à face, pas au travers d'un écran, vous verrez ce qui se passera.
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>>51144826
Mah children got raped, better slaughter and burn down a whole city. She did worse, im glad she and her people died like the dogs they were.
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>>51132933
Now you're thinking like FromSoft! Eventually you'll have swords with a base Intelligence requirement.
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>>51129117
Firearms should require base INT stat to use effectively
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>>51163147
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>>51156133
Good call, anon. Needed a third example
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>>51130732
>>51130958


/tg/ can't carry around a 2 pound weapon without considering strength of the user.

Why am I not surprised? Stay weak /tg/
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