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We need to buff marines Edition

>List Builder
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>Freshest Rules in Epub (Use Readium for PC or Kobo on Android)
https://mega.nz/#F!Wl5DAbCb!TYxZG4CgX_x-NJu7JBwbZQ!2tgBUTYI

>Not always current PDFs:
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

>As current as the FAQs get
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata

>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

>Forge World Book Index:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

>The Black Library (No, not the Black's Library):
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q!c4pGAJDb
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>>51106045
Even the thread knows that its not
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>>51106023
Anons, how much script is too much script when doing Word Bearers?

Like, what if I wanted to have script all over the armor plates of a Maulerfiend? And I mean all over it. Not just a few lines here and there, but enough to look like someone was able to write a book on it, y'know?
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>>51106063

If your script looks decent (attempt for pic related)

Then it can look good but if its splodgy thick random lines then it can look shit.
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I painted my first model. I feel sorry for the guy
Any advice?
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>>51106023
Why oh fucking why do op's keep using this fucking shit image. Get over yourselves and use some proper 40k images there's 30 fucking years of images and you keep using this wank!!
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>>51106106
Best advice is to just keep at it. You'll improve as you do it. Just focus on the basics at first, don't worry about fancy techniques.
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>>51106041
I like anon

Looks fluffy and fun.
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>>51106106

Basecoat your damn models a solid black, white or grey instead of just slapping colours on. I can tell you didn't. It's very noticeable.

Beyond that, the usual "make sure you put a little water in your paint, then colour, shade with a wash, edge highlight a brighter shade of the initial colour" advice.
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>>51106093
Well, I'm definitely no 'Eavy Metal painter, but I'd love to be able to do that.

What I was thinking was something along the lines of what Duncan did on the Word Bearer's knee.
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>>51106128
My biggest problem are the eyes-the second model looks like it has some black-white splurge on the eyeholes. What can I do with that?
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Now that we've had Tzaanuary, dare we hope for Slaarch? Nurvember?
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gonna repost this list that i threw together.
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>>51106138
Is did prime it with grey...
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>>51106106
do as lord Duncan says and thin your paints. two thin coats is better than a thick one.
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>>51106140

right, just make it pop I suppose and don't go overboard.

One of the other things is keep it to scale as well, bare in mind how big the writing is vs the size of the models, their hands and how big the text would be.

>>51106154

Don't paint the eyes until you've been painting for years, you'll ruin every model you paint by giving them random splodges of white and dollops of black in the center. Games Workshop doesn't advocate eye painting unless you are an expert.
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>>51106154
I wouldn't bother with painting eyes until you feel more confident in your painting.
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>>51106154
Here's some tips on how to do eyes.


Don't. 40k models, and well, most models in general are too small for eyes to be appreciably noticeable.

Remember that 'Eavy Metal painters are not human, and are painting Daemons.
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>>51106140
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>>51106168
Guess you are right
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>>51106140
hey im a fellow bearer of the word and im wondering what colour you are going to paint the pauldrons. ive been painting mine red for years but im thinking of switching to black.
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#ArmlessTheHarmless
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>>51106196
I'm going to do black, mostly to break up all the red and because I think it looks nice. Might have black helms and/or chests on my sergeants/leaders.
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First alpha legion marine

Thanks to anon for posting the tutorial for the armour
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>>51106133
th-thanks
still upwards of £300 quid tho
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>>51106212
now you just need to paint the scale design
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>>51106212
veru nice-u
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>>51106106

Don't paint eyes. I've been painting Orks since 2007 and never once have I painted eyes. Eyes are something which, when done badly, are really, really obvious. Simple washes will suffice for eyes on 99% of models that aren't Space Marines.
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>>51106213
>£300 quid

Well m8, I hope you really enjoy that hit of crack.
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>>51106243
I've just dropped that on an AoS army, so this might be a project for later in the year

After all there could be a huge shakeup with this End Time business
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>>51106226
Fuck that
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>>51106041
>see stormhawk
>Decide to read about it
>grimace and go to 1d4chan
>remember why the site is shit
>try another site bitching about how dare SMs have competent flight corps and escorts for their thunderhawks
So can you lot tell me about this new flyer? And apparently how the rules have changed for flyers?
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>>51106270
its not that hard
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>>51106212
that looks great
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>>51106276
>1d4chan is shit
Explain this meme
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>>51106276
Yeah there was a flyer update but personally I have never met a person in my meta that wanted to play it (extraneous rules/rolling mostly)

> rerollable jink save on an already decently armoured flying platform
> its cost effective


> its space marines, its what a really vanilla anti-air fighter should be
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>>51106302
People expect less meme from their meme wikia? I do not know honestly.

Their tactics are very theoryhammer and it shows.
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>>51106312
Forgot to mention its objectively better than a dakkajet
> inb4 what isnt
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>>51106302
The tactics pages are written and moderated by autists who shill literally every option their faction can take, who base their tactics entirely on theorycraft without properly theorycrafting most of the time.

Their actual articles are full of memes the majority of which are literally 5+ years old, which makes /tg/ look even more like a shitty joke than the site actually is. 1d4 STILL maintains its Matt Ward article and enforces the Ward meme, for example, and is probably directly responsible for the normies in the fanbase who still shit on him.
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>>51106302
The memes and personal opinion get in the way of just telling me the hard facts about what I'm reading about, and the jokes are tryhard, inorganic.
>>51106312
1d4 said something like a flyer can't shoot at the ground and at aerial targets now?
But yeah, 150, good weapon loadout, still fragile as hell, it looks to be a counterpart to Eldar superiority flyers.
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>>51106106
Have you watch any how to paint videos? Copy them exactly until you get a feel for it.
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>>51106312
>Mfw i completely forgot there was a flyer update
I guess no one using it really made it not leave an imprint.
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>>51106187
Is he a Slaaneshi daemon of miniature painting?
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I'm so goddamn wary of buying any Guard stuff as I'm convinced there will be new Guard plastics soon (after Cadia)

Something with greatcoats would be great
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>>>>51106316
I've got the idea for my 500pts of guard on them and its pretty solid.
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>>51106212
Very nice. You out my own (non-chaos style) to shame. I especially like the slight shade of green on the metal armour
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>>51106382
More like a mortal champion of Slaanesh. There was a time when there was no perfection.
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>>51106384
I've been putting off buying the AdMec Codices for months now because we might get 8e, IA and possibly a combined codex soon. It's a real pain and I've been mostly getting around by using the "test reading" copies of the codices my shop has lying around.
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>>51106385

What's your list?

In the process of painting these for my Genestealer cult, I've decided to branch out into a Guard subforce, maybe starting at 500 and moving to 1k and so on.
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>>51106422
Just 'buy' the epub from the link at the top of the thread. I heard its so cheap it's as if it's free!
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>>51106437
That helps for private games but not exactly for in the store.
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What do you people think of Orks as slav?
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Quad squiggoth anon reporting back after versing a list tailoring cunt expecting me to play my normal green tide:
> His list was a bunch of wyverns (3), pask punisher and a normal punisher, rest was all guardsmen and heavy weapons teams with autocannons
> DID I MENTION HE BROUGHT YARRICK TO GET PREFERRED ENEMY
> his face when I told him my entire army on the board was t7/8 and his preferred enemy did sweet fuck all
> punishers managed to get 5 wounds off a big squiggoth the whole game


> Do I even need to go into more information
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Got through another Kill Team mission. My opponent and I were both rolling our Veteran Teams which are monsters.

There was a strange coincidence though. We both decided to push our main infantry up the middle through cover with one or two Specials going with them. We were in each others faces before either of us took any casualties.
I grabbed some pics of the before, but got so caught up in the game that I forgot to take afters. The thing most worthy of mentioning is my opponents Cultist Champion survived 2 Hot-Las shots and a round of melee before quickly and efficiently putting my storm trooper 6 foot under.

Pic 1/4
Here, you can see
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>>51106447
Just put it on your phone. Most people assume it's a legit digital version of the codex (which it is).
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>>51106447
Why not? It's an epub
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>>51106357
I did, but I did some other things, most notably a red pauldron, because thats my regiments sign. I have a cheesy backstory to it
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>>51106316
>math is bad and meak my brain go auw auw , my conscrip can kill abbadon xddd
what rock do you fucking shitheads keep crawling underneath from ?
you're the kind of person that takes a laser destroyer over quad lascannons aren't you ?
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>>51106467
Pic 2/4
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>>51106457
Sure go ahead. Give out full report how the battle went.
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>>51106451
If I want pol shit shit I will go to pol and get covered in its shit
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>>51106480
Pic 3/4
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hey, i have some problems with choosing the right army two weeks ago i bought some necron stuff and played them. they are fucking boring i dont like them at all now im looking for an alternative. i love the paint scheme of the imperial fists and the close combat, psyker style of the grey knights. im really into the fluff of the deathwatch i would love to play a imperial knight with the new army is there a way to combine all this things?
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>>51106457
Well done anon
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>>51106477
>my conscrip can kill abbadon xddd
There are worse ways to deal with Abby than rank firing 50 Prescienced lasguns at him.
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>>51106495
And Pic 4/4 with the above mentioned Champion.
Fun times.
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>>51106457
I actually want more information of how you Squig-stomped him.
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>>51106457
nice to see you fuck over a guy who list tailors against orks
surprised a rending punisher only managed 5 wounds all game though
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Belisarius Cawl and all FoC/Triumvirate Formation rules when?

I need muh leaks.
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>>51106433
Its a CCS and 2 vets with 2 meltas each in chimeras. It works well agianst orks and spesh mahreens
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Holy crap, I never realized that you'd save just about $15 with this bundle, and since it's $60 that means free shipping.

Of course, CSM termis still suck, but at least they're cool.
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>>51106522
Nothing yet. Probably 2-3 days before we get any leaks.
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>>51106477
Whiteroom theory has it's place, anon, but it doesn't account for a lot of variables you see on the table, on top of a lot of the advice being outdated.
>>51106497
I'll field this.
Anon, no one is going to respond to you because your sentence looks like shit. If you are going to ask for help, at least do the courtesy of typing like you have a semblance of grammar so it can be read.
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>>51106467
>>51106480
>>51106495
>>51106506
I remember you from about a week ago from the Kill Team thread. I played your Senior Force Commander and cleared house with him, thanks for the stats and cost. Nice table by the way.
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>>51106522
This is all I know of (aside from WD and whatever may have leaked here)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1uiPe3FfuA&t=0s
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>>51106534

Why is it that they leak the whole story but not the rules?
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>>51106554
Whole story? Kinda lacks big pieces of information.

And they do leak rules every now and then. They just didnt this time.
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>>51106548
Ah yeah I remember you too! I'm glad he helped anon, definitely a force to be reckoned with!
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>>51106023
Is there a canon Poland in Space?
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I had some days off work and took some painting oaths to dig into my deathwatch. Here's my weeks progress. Post projects.
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>>51106580
I'm not >>51106548 but could you give the stats here? I wouldn't mind playing a guard kill team. Is it GW or HoR?
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>>51106567

I see. I tried to avoid story leaks, but It appeared to me that everything was already leaked. That's why I was wondering.
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>>51106546
what variables ?
sure you can roll extraordinarily bad and if that happens it's Rng's fault that your plan falls apart
If you continue to hinge your strategy on 50% success rates or lower you're going to get a few stunning victories but mostly you'll lose
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>>51106630
Sure thing anon, it's a HoR Kill Team. You may need to either build him up over time, or earn some renown and then buy him flat out.

WS5 BS4 S3 T3 W2 I3 A3 LD9 SV+4 (re-roll failed saves for Antarax Pattern Armour)

Senior Force Commander:
-Antarax Pattern Carapace Armour (4+/Re-roll if failed.)
-Plasma Pistol
-Power Sword
-Stealth
-12" S4, AP6, Twin Linked, Strikedown Shotgun
-Bionic Eye (Re-roll 1's in shooting and Overwatch.)
-Stubborn
-WS+1

For everything I listed, he will cost 60 Requisition Points plus another 2 Requisition Points because he's a Krieger.
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>>51106631
The ending was leaked from iTunes previews. But it still lacks quite big things how things happened.
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>>51106657
Pricey, but he's pretty beefy. Cheers dude
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>>51106508
Fuck alright, good thing I wrote some of this down
> Rolled for FnP on two of my Big squiggoths, my third has a KFF in it, Gargantuan squiggoth had MFF in it
>Turn 1
> Just move that shit up senpai
> 1 Supa-Lobba manage to scatter onto some wyverns and fucking destroys ones launchers, other one is immobilised
> Kannons on big squiggoths open up and all miss
> Le ork sniper meme
> He retaliates by fully committing to the Gargantuan squiggoth
> everything wounds it on 6s except autocannons on 5s, and even then I get my invuln and a fnp save, cop 2 wounds on my big boi
>Turn 2
> Gargantuan squiggoth delivers 10 man ork squad to die in glorious melee against a guard blob
> Gargant kills enough of the guardsman with Supa Lobbas to expose Yarrick
> Big Squiggoths lumber up the field like the shitty paper weights they want to be
> Gargant destroys punisher (not pask) with 7 s10 ap2 attacks
> Pask opens up on gargant
> actually does shit this turn, 3 wounds on the big squiggoth with the KFF from just him
> fucking bless the bastard for putting his heavy weapons with his blob
> wyverns try to take some pot shots at the same squiggoth
> fucking gets two wounds and the Squiggoth loves it
> Turn 3
> Dude realises how fucked he is
> Big squiggoths hit the lines along with 20 more boyz that charge the other blob
> kannons manage to do sweet fuckall again
> Gargant krumps Pask in glorious melee
> Big squiggoths roll well on stomp and remove Yarrick from play
> Come back to life now you old fuck
> Guardsmen lose combat badly and get over run by sweet, sweet I2
> All thats left is 2 wyverns, one which is immobilised and one that has one launcher broken

> Dude just starts packing up his shit and trying to hide his sweet, cheesy tears
> MFW I finally beat him bad enough that he doesn't want to play me again and now complains about orks being op


Im not sure I can go back to playing a green tide anymore desu
Btw I did the maths and he actually rolled well considering
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>>51106657
>>51106683
We basically stopped playing our HoR-campaing after me and my allied buddy rolled White Scars biker lists. WS-bikers are so damn powerful in HoR its not even funny.
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>>51106546
i know, my english is not the best
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Cadia's spirit shall live on on the hearts of its defenders.
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>>51106683
Happy to help!

>>51106693
My friends and I more or less stopped playing anything with a 3+ in general. There's so much more fun to be had when you're pulling off insane shit and men are dropping like flies. AP3 is the new god and you'll actually want to throw hand grenades now. Two matches ago, I had a storm trooper take a diving charge off an overhang and wipe out my opponents champion.
Space Marines just get boring after a while.
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>>51106405

Though there are obvious signs of excess.
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>>51106717
So wait Cadia is kill for real this time?
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>>51106690
Good job on destroying that guy's face. Would actually kind of struggle myself with getting over a wall of Squiggoths myself and don't immediately know of a good reaction against that much high toughness. Though I guess Grav-Spam is always an option.
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>>51106652
It doesn't put in for cover, positioning, most of the parts that account for generalship.
Numbers are a part of the equation, but that website treat it as the only part, or the only part that matters.
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>>51106457
>3 wyverns
Pretty standard guard unit that wants any power in the list. Hell, some lists in ETC took AM allies for blob ob.sec units and wyverns only.
>Pask punisher
That's like go-to Pask take
>and normal punisher
Ok odd pick, then again with Punisher pask it's somewhat ok pick with all the "don't mix weapons" mantra going on and all
>rest was all guardsmen and heavy weapon teams with autocannons
That's like the standard thing with blobguard? With all heavy bolters I'd suppose that's really tailoring
>Yarrick to get pe
145p to keep all the guardsmen in line, from your text I assume there were plenty of them and Yarrick has the tools to keep them in line.

Sure his list had nothing to deal with av14 apart from Pask rending. Sounds pretty standard non-mech guard.
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>>51106730

Yeah Abaddons 2nd attempt at his 13th Black Crusade is working.
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>>51106737
I feel like it was being tailored because he has never taken yarrick in a game that wasn't against orks and I know as a fact he has a buttload of chimeras and lrs but he decided that he'd rather have FRFSRF on six gorillian lasguns
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I wish to add another manly army to my Inquisition, SoB and BT.

Praetorians sound good.

Suggestion for small IG that can fit the most manly and classy IG regiment?
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>>51106759
>the most manly and classy IG regiment?
That would be the Mordians.
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>>51106754
>FRFSRF
That sounds so silly I actually had to think for a moment to even get what the hell it was.
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>>51106731
Tbh Grav spam wouldn't even work well against the gargant which was the main damage bringer because of the 4++ invuln and fnp with 8 fucking wounds is pretty hard to take down when you have to consider 3 other big fuckers bearing down on you
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>>51106730
Na he failed but in classic Chaos fashion it was still a win because Admech dude blew up the planet.
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>>51106690
Glorious. That's what this hobby is about
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>>51106730
>BOOK TWO OF CADIA FALLS

>The shattered remnants of Cadia drift through the void, the detritus of an entire world torn asunder by powers none who still live can understand. Fragments of orbital platforms and pulverized rock mix with continent sized slabs of tectonic crust, some still holding onto the remnants of their atmosphere.
>Yet even in its death, war has not abandoned Cadia. On the larger fragments of the sundered world, the defenders of Cadia still draw breath. From still-standing fortresses they sally forth, harassing the Black Crusaders who still befoul their world. Automated defenses on a thousand airless citadels continue to fire, their machine spirits unceasing in their efforts to hold back the tide of Chaos. On tumbling rocks mere kilometres across, Astartes and Tempetus alike battle in the void for control of the still-surviving orbital platforms, each with enough firepower to cripple a starship.
>And across the debris field, on every scrap of land that the defenders can hold, one phrase can be heard.
>CADIA. STANDS.
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>>51106533
Checked.

It's a great kit. I bought it too. You probably won't win any games with Chaos terminators, but they do look good. Especially with the forgeworld upgrade kit.
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Only War has some great shit.
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>>51106745
Is his topknot at least dirty?
>>51106780
Why did he blow it up?
>>51106783
Awesome.
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>>51106777
Well, 27/45 or so Grav shots are bound to deal some serious damage even to that thing.
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>>51106768
Mordian might be close. When your regiment goes Ork hunting for fun. We can talk about manly.

Circle jerk aside. Classic Veterans in Chimeras? You know to keep the model count low. Since I'll need a lot of third party models like picture related.

Since finding original models will be hell and too much of hazel
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>>51106759
Victoria Miniature's most well-supported line is Not Praetorians called Victorian Guard, assuming you were asking where to get some minis, I didn't honestly get what you meant by suggestions for small IG.
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>>51106795
He got backstabbed in the spine by the Living Saint while choking creed out.
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>that guy who quit playing with you because you killed a single riptide of his multiple wing formations with beast hunter shells
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>>51106809
And that makes me happy.
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>>51106801
>When your regiment goes Ork hunting for fun.
My Regiment goes heretic hunting on a world that is BOTH a hive world and murder world. One half is also bathed in constant solar radiation. And our women are more hardcore than even your most manly man.

Vet's in catdogs sounds like a good way of keeping unit count down but still keeping useful units. Be sure to keep an eye on Ebay or consider recasting.
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>>51106795
Abby almost killed Creed, Celestine stabbed him after she was beat up and left to die by Abby, he had a sword in his back and had to fall back a bit, AdMec dude needed to cut off Chaos reinforces, after Trazyn activated the Pylons and disabled Celestine's warp abilities as well as all Imperial psykers, Belisarius saw no other solution than to try and buy as much time against Chaos as possible by sacrificing the planet and overloaded the Pylons to push the Eye of Terror back, shut Chaos off from the warp, forced Abby to flee the planet and then ended up tearing the world in half because the pylons had too much power behind them.

That's what I've got from all the story snippets posted so far a least.
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>>51106759
Moridians or Voatroyans. Have fun getting those models though.
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>>51106817
Fuck me and my buddy would have quit the game like twelve times per person if we quit the whole game everytime his riptides raped my lines or when I Warconbullshitted his shooting phase into minor casulties and then counterattacked with tabling force.
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>>51106824
Trayzn the necron theif didnt activate them, he told the Ad Mech guy to do it.
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>>51106805
I fail my English hard in that one.

I meant small model count. I enjoy my MSU mostly because it is less shit to move around.

Chimeras with Orks tied up on the chassis as trophy sounds cool.

But honestly no idea how to represent them
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>>51106796
Fuck I forgot about how spammy grav is as a strat
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>>51106823
>Mordian Boner Activated
welp
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>>51106836
gib more context


also dunno, this player is a nice guy... but he's a bit too much attached to his favorite units, those being riptides and fire warriors, and he becomes a salt mine when he looses them without any glory or stuff like that
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PSA: IMPERIAL GUARD LASGUNS SHOULD BE SALVO 2/3
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>>51106824
That sounds pretty great honestly.
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>>51106860
make it salvo 3/1 to encourage guard players to move 200 models a turn
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>>51106865
What a styling doggy that is.
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>>51106860
30 shots is a bit too much

maybe make them heavy weapon with two shots like on the angry codex
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>>51106823
Well shit now I want both. Any alternative Mordians? For Preatorians I have Victorian Guard.

For fuck sake why is everything more awesome than the poster boys
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What's the deal with Forge World?
Are they considered "official", like are they inherently allowed in tournaments?
Do people get upset if you bring them without saying anything?
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>>51106817
I actually once met a guy who tried to argue that riptides should get invulnerability to ID because they aren't 'really monstrous creatures' but the rules represent them well

> just fucking say they're walkers already you absolute fuck
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>>51106860
Half all Grav weapon shots as well while you're at it.
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>>51106887
As long as you don't take advantage of how oddly written their rules can be or use a really obviously overpowered unit everything should be fine.
Forgeworld rules have the most taste imo
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>>51106841
Vets in Chimeras with Rough Riders and maybe some backup tanks (Leman Russes are the go-to, but you could always try out some other stuff). It'd be a reasonably speedy force and have a low model count, plus Praetorian Rough Riders would look great. Victoria's RR kit is designed to work best with Victorians so you don't have a lot of reason to not.
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>>51106887
>What's the deal with Forge World?
sister company of GW that does larger and rarer models in resin
>Are they considered "official", like are they inherently allowed in tournaments?
yes, although at a GW store this may vary
>Do people get upset if you bring them without saying anything?
only if they are faggots
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>>51106887
FW is literally the same company as GW, anyone who bitches about it is either old and remembers the time when its rules were mysterious and OP, or a poorfag who's angry they can't get in on that good shit.

Some tournaments ban FW under the pretense that the game is big enough already, and some autists get mad if you bring it for presumably the same reason. It shouldn't a problem, given that for every bit of FW cheese there's GW shit that's just as bad.
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>>51106824
I like the part where the Impirial forces got demoralise when Celestine love juice got turn off. But also destroy the entire enemy forces.

Oh no I can't feel the Saint warm tights! Squad moral broken!

Fucking shit writing
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>>51106898
I always wondered, what are some of the "obviously overpowered units" from Forgeworld people complain about every now and then?
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>>51106885
Tannenburg Fusiliers are the Victoria Minis version of Mordians.

Be careful though anon, fresh uniform addiction is a deep, deep hole.
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>>51106885
Well GW still sell Mordians, and you can get their heavy weapons on Ebay easy enough. Mordians are fucking hardcore. But the poster boys are exactly that. The easy to like option. You need to know the fluffy stuff about Mordians and Kriegers etc before you REALLY appreciate how hardass they are
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>>51106913
>not losing morale after holy thighs are turned off
What are you, gay or a god?
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>>51106914
Malcador Infernus
Ta'unar
Skathach Wraithknight
Peltasts maybe
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>>51106898
>>51106903
>>51106910
Neat, buying a Manta now
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>>51106914
Some of the tau battlesuits, and potentially Buzzgobs stompa (a really fucking decent stompa for 500pts) spring to mind.
> most of those rules are quasi-outdated anyway
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>>51106924
The Manta is shit, enjoy wasting your money on the second most expensive model GW sells.
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>>51106914
hellstorm wraithknight
yvhara

are 2 that come to mind, the yvhara isnt that overpowered because its easy to kill, but it can move 24", hit something close with D6 autohots s4 shred, then fire 2 crazy powerful guns, then it can assault
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>>51106923
you forgot about glorious hierophant bio titan
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>>51106860
Ohhhh I like that
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>>51106927
Buzzgob's Stompa is still a Stompa and thus pretty bad.

>>51106943
The Heirophant is awful. The Harridan is better.
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>>51106943
> Overpowered
Welcome to the land of grav and D weapons on relatively cheap infantry squads, how may I help you?

> Inb4 All 'nids suck
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>>51106935
Can't hear you over my sixteen Long-Barrelled Burst Cannons, six Long-Barrelled Ion Cannons, two Heavy Rail Guns, Missile Pods, and battery of Seeker Missiles as well as a Networked Markerlight turrets.
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>>51106958
that cant be used in normal matches because its 2000 points on its own
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>>51106953
It may be inherently bad but it can take so much fucking firepower for the points, especially if you get some lootas and meks in it
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>>51106918
Anon I play SoB with Inquistion wish to sell my BT because Marines got boring for me.

Adding Guard to the Glorious T3 army with Mordian and Preatorian, im already into uniform hole
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>>51106965
>Not fielding a single Manta in a 2000-point game
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>>51106953
It's a half price Stompa that throws out S10 Ap1 Massive Blasts, has a D attack, d6 void shields, and can be loaded full of Meks to give it as many as 8 repair rolls every turn.

It's not pretty bad at all.
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>>51106956
>>51106953
dammit let me dream
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>>51106971
>Glorious T3 army
ANYTHING MORE THAN T3 IS FOR THE WEAK.
SEND IN THE GUARD
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>>51106973
>wanting to auto-lose because it's a flyer and can't start on the board
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>>51106973
>cant get on the board until turn 2 because you dont have a skypad

>lose instantly
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>>51106958
Don't forget it also has over 20lbs of pussy & ass.
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>>51106988
>>51106989
Convince your opponent that it was already landed there before the battle started and counts as a fortification.
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>>51106973
>>51106958

I'll fight you with my warlord titan. I'll even let you borrow one of my warhounds so you get up to 2,750
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>>51106924
have fun assembling it.

i think there is a 12 parts video tutorial on youtube, and every video is like one or two hours long
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>>51106989
>>51106988
>not forging narrative
It's like you don't even assault out of rhinos if it makes any sense thematically.
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>>51107025
Imagine if it got warped in the mail
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>>51106974
but its still BS2
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>>51107032
Thats when you email forge world and either get a refund or another one for free.
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>>51107040
Doesn't really matter with a 7" diameter blast, it's still likely to remove handfuls of models each turn and is basically unkillable if supported.
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>>51107045
>TWO MANTAS
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>>51107045
Imagine if it was warped ever so slightly, so you couldn't get a new one sent but it also simply refused to fit together neatly.
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>>51107064
you joke but when you decide to play that 20k point apocalypse game you will be thanking me.
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>>51107074
I love stupid shit like any other but. 20k points... I'm still having nightmares of our 10k point game. I brought over 100 marines in the form of footslogging BT and he had over 300 orks on foot.

40k simply does not function at those points and model count.
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>>51107084
>not playing 40k point games over a month with your group
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>>51106614
Those looks great
My semi finished Plague Drone, sans rider
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>>51106913
>crusaders lose morale when the divine representation of the Emperor's Will leading them is cast down
You really are dumb, anon.
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>>51107072
Then under the consumer rights act you get it refunded entirely as it does not fall within specification of being fit for purpose.
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>Be Abaddon, get tired of Creed's shit.
>Kill his entire comsquad, pulverise Kell.
>Start choking the old bastard.
>Tactical genius infiltrated Celestine right behind you.
>CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
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>>51107128
Is Kell confirmed dead? Like, in writing?
>he#s always deployed as part of Creed's command squad
But on the tabletop he doesn't have to be.
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>>51107109
Grooooooooooooooooooooooosssss
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>>51107143
Creed took his men and made one last charge, presumably Kell went with
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>>51107122
Also the enemy forces vanish like you know Demons.
Basically anything the chaos forces had that was warp powered got fucked hard.

Some how the Emperor protect got real to everyone including the robots and the Mechanicus... yah right.
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>>51107064
>>51107074
>flashbacks of Tau Alliance
Y'all bitches don't even know.
>3 Mantas
>THREE
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>>51107151
>Also the enemy forces vanish like you know Demons.
But not chaos marines, mutants, traitor guard and all the armor on the planet.
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>>51107128
Mind you a weakened, beaten and powerless Celestine back stabs the chaos chosen in mother fucking terminator armour.

Abaddon such a failure that Cadia got destroy because the Necron dude told the Mechanicus dude to delete System 32.
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>>51107162
The only ones that could had been affect by the T H I C C losing her power would had been the IG of fucking Cadia that are used to fight chaos. Ok let's say they got demoralised. The bloody commisars and command officer would be barking orders pointing out the clear upper hand disspait the love hugs gone.

They mention everything chaos got fuck up. That includes mutant and chaos space marines. Not out right btfo but weakened.

How the fuck do you explain the Skitarii and machanicus shit getting depress? Hell even the Space Marines and Titan legion. Maybe the Guard for some reason got sad, but the rest of the Imperium forces? Not a chance
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>>51107166
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>>51107166
>delete System 32.
I wish I could reward you. You put a massive smile on my face.
All I can do is give a well earned (You).
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>>51107185
>even the Space Marines
>Black Templars, one of the only SM chapters that explicitly believes in the Imperial Cult being shellshocked that the Emperor's Benevolence is stripped from them
Anon, I do think you are underestimating the pervasiveness of faith and Celestine's importance as a rallying figure.
It's like wondering why Macharius' crusade ended when he died, when he had plenty of leadership under him that could take up the mantle.
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>>51107166
>Cadia got destroy because the Necron dude told the Mechanicus dude to delete System 32.
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>>51107212
fuck i forgot that there is a pc in front of the kid
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>>51107204
I'm saying how stupid it was that Impirial forces that are used to fight without the love juices got hit hard than the chaos forces. Specially when part of vanish or where left on the ground like useless idiots.

Both side got cut out of thier "Faith" but some how the imperial side that is used to not have it got the worst end?

Chaos just earn a Tau space bubble of stupidity
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>>51107124
>I could have refunded all my +30 buys from forgeworld.
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So wait, is Creed like canon dead? Like for realz?k
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>>51107301
No
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>>51107306
He was DISTRACTION CREED so the beaten and weak celestine could backstab Abaddon in mother fucking terminator armour.

Between the system 32 delete, the Imperial forces now fuelled by the Emperor chaos powers just like chaos dudes. I have no idea what is the worst part of FoC new plot progression
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>>51107324
Well, that's not that bad. I do hope that senpai Kell is ok too, because he is just so cool.
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>>51107324
Fueled by the emperor's power? What fresh heresy is this?
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We asked for plot progression for so long we forgot that all the good writers from the 90s are gone and all the current ones had a good chance to fucking things up.
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>>51107324
>>51107383
Where exactly did you think the blessings of the Emperor came from if not the Warp?
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>>51107425
One thing is the blessing, the other is the Imperium forces shutting down.
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>>51107324

It was the Emperor's battle meditation

WE STAR WARZ NOW
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>>51107464
You don't say. Blowing up a planet to show how bad or dire things are is a StarWars thing.

When 40k blows up planets is because someone fuck up bad so they blow it up to prevent the shit form spreading.

If Cadia was blown up intentionally like any exterminatus it would be fine. Exploding for a mistake is just stupid even for 40k
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>>51107324
>I have no idea what is the worst part of FoC new plot progression
Oh that's easy: Chaos winning the land battle.
After cawl messes with the pylons, everyone's cut off from the warp, making the daemons go bye bye, daemon weapons regular weapons, the possesed wracked with pain and all the marks and blessings of chaos worth nothing. In short, chaos should be completely fucked. But apparently the CSM saw the emperor's light fading, and, fueled by this sign that the emperor is a false god, they become even stronger and wreck the imperials.
Now, why didn't the imperials become more zealous at the sight of chaos being beaten, just like the emps light? Why didn't abby's mary sue sword go away? Why was abby able to teleport away? Why weren't the marines on cadia, namely the black templars who are noted for ABHORING THE WITCH, able to take on the weakened CSM?
Because reasons. This lack of any form of logic what so ever makes this far and away the stupidest part of FoC
>but you loyalists are lucky they didn't go with the first draft were abby blows it up from space!
No. Abby beating the imperial navy, which is far and away the best fleet of any race in 40k whike chaos is well known for having some of the shittiest ships would have been even stupider and evn more unjustifiable.
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On Tau Crisis Suits, do the twin-linked weapon options take up two slots or one? As in, can I take a twin-linked weapon and then two other choices?
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>>51107569
iirc they take up two slots, but don't need to be twinlinked
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>>51107569
No, hence why they cost more. Otherwise you could just get two of the same weapon and have an objectively better loadout
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>>51107569
It takes 2 slots. Commander has 4 slots to use and all the other crisis suits have 3. Crisis team leader shas'vre uses those slots for signature systems but bodyguards and commanders don't.
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>>51107582
>anti-Taufag doesn't even know the codex
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>>51106121
>30 years worth of images
No official art allowed.
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>>51107552
Indeed chaos won by Tau plot armour.

Chaosfag are going to be very piss about it. Then they'll try to defend the bad writing

I do not wish anyone to have Tau plot armour not even the Tau
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>>51107109
Those wings came out pretty good. The carapace is still a tad monotone though.
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>>51107699
>I do not wish anyone to have Tau plot armour not even the Tau
Well, that'd be a swift end of the Imperium then.
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>>51106353
Skyfire is required for aerial platforms to make normal shooting attacks at ground targets.

Death from the Skies is in the Mega.
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>>51107708
Thanks, i was worried how GW washes work on Vallejo Primer. I've barely started to highlight it, with warpstone and moot greens.
Atm i'm just focussed on not giving in and rushing the paint jobs on my models since my first squad of bearers came out ok
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Rate my list 1500 Minotaurs marines.

Captain with terminator armour, Relics: Primarch's wrath, Teeth of Terra.

Assault Terminators (5) with Storm shields and thunder hammers.
DT: Land Raider Redeemer with multi-melta.

Heavy Support: Predator squadron (3). All with Lascannons!

2 full tacticals in drop pods with combi weapons, Plasma gun, flamer, Missile Launcher and plasma cannon.

Have some points left for something.
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>>51107787
multiple relics/10
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>>51107552
All Chaos lost were some of their weaker players and their sick warp buffs. The Imperium's entire core belief system was shattered, with their leaders and saints literally falling before them. I think having the light of your god suddenly visibly leave your army completely is a bit harder a morale check than suddenly losing the ability to shit fire or whatever Chaos lets you do.

>Why didn't abby's mary sue sword go away?
Same reason why Abby didn't go away.

>Why was abby able to teleport away?
He merely retreated and then left.

>Why weren't the marines on cadia, namely the black templars who are noted for ABHORING THE WITCH, able to take on the weakened CSM?
CSMs without the C are still SMs. Also, they did manage to push them back. You yourself said Abby had to teleport away.
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>>51107787

Whats with all the Minotaur fags recently?
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>>51107799

Eh, why not go bananas and have fun with the stuff. Just wanna have fun.

>>51107813

How common have the Minofags been recently?
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>>51107552
>which is far and away the best fleet of any race in 40k
Jesus Christ, you Imperial babies are hilarious. Did you just conveniently forget that Eldar and Necrons exist?

I look forward to your retards chimping out about how nobody is allowed to beat Imperials ever for any reason every time one of these books comes out.
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>>51107844
>why not go bananas and have fun with the stuff
Because the FAQ says you can't.

>>51107856
>mentioning Necrons after Trazyn trolled Imperialfags harder than ever before in FoC
You're playing with fire my man.
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Question for my fellow Guard Players.

Does the Forge World Leman Russ Exterminator kit come with a hull lascannon? I'm thinking of getting one and I've only ever run exterminators in one configuration: as a command tank with lascannon hull gun and multi-melta sponsons.

I also think the Exterminator Array's gun barrels look tiny and useless, but that's a different problem.
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>>51107896
We don't even know why the pylons went bonkers. We're just reading five pages and declaring we know everything that happened in the whole book.
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>>51107901
If it comes with the new Leman Russ kit then yes, it comes with all hull and sponson options.
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My CSM Bikers are finally ready to paint. Pretty happy with how the posing came out. Any comments Anons?
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>>51107896

fucking faq! ty for info. Should I spend the points in upgrading one of the heavy weapons to the gravity cannon? Is that viable?
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Should I be playing 500 point games if I want to get a few play throughs while learning the game in like a 3 or 4 hours time span?
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>>51107901
It comes with both a resin lascannon and a resin heavy bolter.
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>>51107576
>>51107587
Thank you
One more question: When firing, are you only allowed to select one weapon or one TYPE of weapon to fire?
I know Crisis Suits come with Multi-Tracker stock.
For example, if I equip a Crisis Suit with two non-linked Burst Cannons and a Plasma Rifle in the third slot, can I fire both Burst Cannons, then use Multi-Tracker to shoot the Plasma Rifle? Or will the second Burst Cannon count as my multi-tracker shot?
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>>51107856
>Did you just conveniently forget that Eldar and Necrons exist?
They have better ships, but they don't have the numbers to really compete with the imperium.
The imperial navy has both quality and numbers, which is what makes it the dominant fleet in the galaxy.
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>>51107552
>the imperial navy, which is far and away the best fleet of any race in 40k

A single craftworld can beat two sector fleets and still claim the planet in a land battle from ten marine chapters. Yet you think the Navy can stop a full frontal Black Crusade?
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>>51107978
Normally you can fire single (1) weapon. Multi-tracker allows you to fire additional weapon. Each gun on the suit counts as a single weapon (except twin-linked of course, that is explained in the main rulebook).
This is the reason why most players equip only two guns on each suit.
If you want to have 3 guns, have the two guns you want the suit to have and a flamer. It's only 5p and gives you additional close range and overwatch boost in clutch situations.
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>>51108011
Got it, thank you.
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>>51107978
One WEAPON.
For example, let's suppose for a second that a Leman Russ isn't heavy. This means it can fire 1 weapon at full BS if it moved at Combat Speed.

A fully kitted Russ will have the turret gun, a hull gun, TWO sponson guns (even though they're purchased as a set), and sometimes a pointless gun and/or a hunter killer missile. All of these are individual weapons, and thus our non-heavy Russ would be able to fire one, and ONLY one, at full BS. Everything else would have to fire snap shots.
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recently returned to the game and started collecting orks. i'd say i've done well for myself, 2600pts, 220+ models and a codex for $350 dollareydoos(AUD) from people who were quiting but my problem right now is time, with how limited my free time is i don't think i'll ever get this force on the table. I don't wanna stop playing/collecting again but i'm feeling a crazy burnout from the sheer volume of a horde army.

I've been thinking about just selling my ork force as it is and moving it into a much, much smaller army. what would people suggest?

Also i was hearing a while back that 8th edition is rumoured to drop soon, is this true and if so will there be a new kit similar to dark vengeance?

Cheers.
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>>51108021
>pointless gun
PINTLE gun, you dumb phone. Autocorrect a shit.
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>>51107996
>Imperial fleets are good
>therefore the Imperials should never ever lose a space battle at any point against any enemy
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>>51107810
>Same reason why Abby didn't go away.
You wot m8? Abbys sword is litterally just a daemon. Not even a daemon trapped in a sword, just a daemon. There is absolutely ni reason for it to not go away with the rest of the daemons.
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>>51107998
>A single craftworld
You underestimate greatly how powerful the 5 biggest craftworlds are. Biel-tan especially is probably the most powerful next to Ulthwé.
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>>51107998
You do know a Crawft world even a shitty one is like facing a planet worth of space ships. Those are Space elf hacks and you know it
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>>51107810
Are you a GW writer? You can't be defending this idiotic writing, unless you are one of the writers or a shill

And I want a Chaos victory not this stupid Imperium losing because reasons and shooting themself in the foot
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>>51107921
How long did it take you to assemble them?
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>>51107921

Why are two bikes missing their bolters?
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>>51108121
Waaaaay too fucking long, but mostly due to bad shape of the parts
>>51108156
Cause they have meltas instead
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>>51108156
2 models can either take a meltagun or replace their TL bolters with a meltagun. Anon opted to take the second, but put the meltagun in their hands instead of mounting it on the bike.
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>>51107996
Yeah, but numbers mean significantly less when said fleets have to defend an entire galaxy. The Imperium beings stretched thing and unable to focus all its might is something that's been around as long as the game
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>>51108235
What will the command squad do?
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>>51107901
>FW Exterminator
Why?
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Did this ever get uploaded?

I've been going back over the last 4 or 5 generals, CTRL+F for it but i cant find it.
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>>51106823
>MS Gundam colours
y tho
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>>51108039

Drach'nyen is too strong to be banished so easily. No one complains when Emperor hangs out with blank Sisters of Silence despite being a psyker himself, it's the same principle.
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>>51108293
For whatever reason they aren't pictured with bikes. They're going to escort the CM and libby.
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>>51107025
They're like 30 mins each, tops.

>>51107032
That's why there were as many vids as there were.
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>>51108393
Nu-uh. Only Imperium can have those. Everyone else should just play the 2nd fiddle.
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>>51106943
You can cut the points cost of the Hierophant in half and it still isn't good
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>>51107569
A twinlinked weapon takes up two slots, but costs less than 2 weapons. I never buy it, mostly because 2 weapons is much better than 1 twinlinked.
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>>51108486
Thats... actually true. Pretty sad.
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>>51108529
>Bio-titan warp field
>6+ invul save
What the shit? These days every bullshit 250 point gargantuan walks around with a 5++ or 4++ at least.

Jezus fuck the powercreep has done some messed up things that I'm actually considering Wraithknights the norm nowadays.
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>>51108529
I'd pay 515 points for a transport popping Marine-roasting melee monster. Low AP Hellstorm is always going to be pretty good.
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>>51108585
Name one GMC that costs 250 points and/or has an invulnerable save, nigger. Shit even the Wraithknight doesn't always have one, and when it does it's 5++, at best 4++ with a risky Sanctuary.
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>>51108618
You cant give WK Sanctuary.
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>>51108529
When you see how this thing has aged, the price of the Ta'unar is a no brainer. As the game moves forward, there will be a day when even it is shit for its points.
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>>51108529
400-450 points doesn't seem like a bad price for it.
It's has no invuln but it's T9 so a lot of ap2 fire will just bounce off.

unless it's grav which will kill it in one turn of shooting but that's what they get for being filthy xenos. :^))))
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>>51108697
Those rules are from 2014 IIRC. They are from Anphelion Project 2nd edition. Some other monsters got their rules updated.
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>>51104410
here is my answer:

Whichever is the easiest, and cheapest way for me to convert a model, that doesnt look like dogshit
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so.... no rules leaks from foc yet?
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>>51108736
Nope.
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>>51108736
only the traitor cadian guard list
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>>51108618
250 points for the Wraithknight and it's 5++. Stormsurge is more expensive, clocking at 410 points for its 4++, still well under half of the Bio-Titan's 1000.
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>>51108765
The Wraithknight is 295 points.
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Reposting, are knights still viable?
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>>51108764

Traitor guard???
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>>51108529
>Model costs A THOUSAND fucking points
>Still has upgrades
>May only have one

Why the fuck do they do this? same retarded design with the Lord of skulls. motherfucker is 888pts and still has to buy shit to make his guns not terrible.

Skull lord doesn't have the excuse of being like 10 years out of date though. Is there a worse LoW than him? i doubt it.
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>>51108025
I fell into the same trap as you lad, bought way more than I needed with my OT money before getting figuratively buried under my models. I decided on a specific force, sold off the stuff that didn't fit the theme, and I'm piecing it together mob by mob to reach my current goal of 1250 pts on the table, and it is so much more manageable.

So I would say to try that, and maybe sell stuff that's still boxed up like I did, apart from a few key kits.
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>>51108797
We've already told you what we think of this list, faggot. You'll either stomp or get stomped, and the Acheron is a wheel of cheese by itself, let alone with two other Knights as backup.
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>>51108797
honestly you might fare better with a mix of vanguard and rangers in 5 man squads instead of 10 and having the dunecrawlers in a separate squads will give you the versatility you will need with such a unit small army (even if u sacrifice the 6++)
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>>51108800
>Is there a worse LoW than him?
A stompa
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>>51108798
its about time we got official traitor guard right?
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>>51107154

Ain't that bad. Try dealing with 5 fucking Ullator Ordinatus because the match was a dickless cuck.
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>>51108914

I think i jizzed a little when I saw it mentioned
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>>51108942
link?
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>>51108841
Really the only reason I took the max vanguard is for the max 9 plasma shots in an attempt to ward off MEQ from my knights' flanks. What's the catch with rangers? I've never run Onagers personally but I think I'd have to agree about get a cross axis of fire with my onagers instead of grouping them.
>>51108830
I have a few lists that I've been throwing out there for a few armies I'm trying to eliminate a few choices. Not even sure if I could find an opponent with that
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>>51108949
>>51108914
>>51108798
You are being trolled.
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>>51108781
Right, used my old codex and forgot they upped their point cost. I stand corrected.

Still far below half of what the Tyranid's costs though. And Scattershields are a free upgrade now.

>Why the fuck do they do this?
Those rules were written in a time before grav cannon and AP2 spam, when fielding a gargantuan creature was actually supposed to mean something.
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>>51108797
see >>51108830
enjoy being that guy for 2 weeks untill everyone realizes you always bring that and you start constantly facing lists filled to the brim with at weapons
at which point you will start to complain how unbalanced the game is and how bullshit it is that your knights get taken out so easily
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>>51108797
>>51109000
maybe consider taking a more versatile list with one knight, and a large skitarii force, that you can mix and match
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>>51107698
So images inside the general are allowed then? How come every other 40k topic has proper 40k images as it's op? This reused image is so much rubbish, it's really off putting how shite it is! plus should it not have the copyrighted 40k logo in then?
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>>51109000
If I shop chinaman I probably only have to spend 3/4 of my tax return. Who knows maybe I'll have a second army to mix things up, most people should honestly.
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>>51109042
Go check out /pfg/ if you want an example of a truly shit general image. At least this meme is one we all know so the retard phoneposters can search the catalog (manually) for it and not complain every thread.
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>>51109071
>I'll buy a Chinacast second army any anyone who doesn't follow suite and/or is poorer than me can get fucked
You are the cancer that is killing the hobby.
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>>51109037
I was under the impression that the minimum number of knights you take if you decide to take them is two, much like dreadnoughts. Just figure one knight is a free 400 points, right? Focusing more on skitarii would help fill the atrocious gap in the army but at a glance it looks like the one reason to take skitarii is for minmaxed squads of vanguard and the fantastic icarus arrays on the onagers. Correct me if I'm wrong by all means
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>>51106212
What color did you use
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>>51109091
Come on man you really want me to shell out like $1800 for forgeworld quality casts?
I wouldn't mind it as much if the finished product wasn't much, much worse than recasts.
I'd suggest anyone to have two VARIANT forces. I cannot have ANY variety in that group of models so I'd have to utilize a second force. It wouldn't be geared against drop pod melta spam either, that'd be crossing the line.
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>>51109091
does buying chinacast also work for poorfags?
>>51109120
you can take a single knight in the single knight formation whose name i forget
it depends with the skitarii - i mean do you want to actually play skitarii as your main or are you just looking for support for the knights? 5 man squads are more efficient if you're just taking them for the plasma cavaliers/transuranic guns

For me personally im building skitarii and when i get to around 1300 in skitarii, il start saving for a knight - to finish it off
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>>51109091
Depends piracy for the sake of being cheap is cancer. Piracy because beside the more brittle resin there is little difference with GW or FW resin. Maybe
Piracy because GW or FW no longer makes the model. Sure go ahead
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>>51108797

I have honestly been considering a list with all the 4 Cerastus variants, a inquisition detachment (inquisitor + 3x3 acolytes) and the antipsyker assassin. Think it would be pretty fun to play at tournament (not winning prizes though!), but I don't think it will win any friends in casual games
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>>51109073
Fuck the phoneposters, erm I do most of my posting on a phone and it's a piece of cake. /awg/ 40kg/ find in page works on chrome :)
In fact I tend to not look at 40kg if it's this image, I boycott it until a general has one of the less offensive to the eyes pictures
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>>51109177
i am poor, where can i get these chinacast variants that are no longer sold by GW or FW
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>>51109181
it just seems boring... on every level
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>>51109213
From China
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>>51109227
don't be a dick richfag
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>>51109226

I find deathstar armies the most boring...
But the game has escalated to a point where the standard infantry is almost completly useless...
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>>51108529
too bad you need 95 points to make it shrouded. might as well stay with harridan.

>heirophand should be around 500 pts with all the upgrade options
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>>51109255
(not that anon, but) recasters request that we dont give out their information.
Consider that if we can find their info by googling, then so can you.
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>>51109213
yoyhammer

There you go.
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>>51108917
>5×£285 = £1425 or $1734
Geeezzzzz... who does that?
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>>51106106
That's actually really solid for a first time.

Just paint more guys, honestly, you'll get better through volume. The other stuff, learning tips and tricks and such, will help, but it's mostly about experience when you're just starting out.
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>>51109298
The same clowns who buy multiple Titans or that >£3000 Titan bundle, I guess.
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>>51109042
No, it's "No real 40k art allowed" because then you're a fucking autist and a shill. The art also gets reused in the books enough that most of us are sick of looking at it. Tap some fan-art to make a general image. Make a joke. The series itself is satire, so to satire it is a more fitting tribute than just appropriating GW's art.
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>>51106176
>and are painting Daemons.
Daemons who, in turn, have no pupils and just have a single-coloured eye blob, which makes it easier.
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>>51109325
>The series itself is satire

That hasn't been true of 40k for at least 20 years
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>>51109370
Making it all the more fun to satire.
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>>51109213
Look them up yourself. Not being a dick but recaster ask to not share the information.

But Reddit idiots share it all the time. It is easy as fuck to find them.

$16 for a Penitent Engine recast $36 for the original metal one.

For how fucking annoying it is to build those things and for how fucking bad they are on the table top. Well chinaman it is.
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>Want Imperial Guard with great coats
>Only ones realistically available are Kriegers
>Will get called an edgelord nazi

I hate Cadian models so fucking much, this sucks.
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>>51109446

There are third party bit sellers who do greatcoat IG
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>>51109398
Satire is meant to be funny these are so overused now it's worn very thin
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>>51109446

Victoria miniatures have greatcoat conversion parts.
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>>51109446

Why not Savlar Chem Dogs?
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>>51109424

Speaking of the Asian connection.

What # of catalog are we on at the moment.

I have 5.2
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>>51109467
Make new ones.
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>>51109556
Lol I might just do, anythings better than the shit at the moment I keep seeing
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>>51109513

Savlar chem dogs are not miners
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>>51109446
No memes though, what is it with krieg players being neo-nazis? I have one of those at my GW.
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>>51109172
I've revised it but I'm not entirely sure if I made forward progress. It feels like a list pulled in separate directions, unsure of what it wants to do/survive from. I lose all command benefits of the knights including the baronial formation with the seneschal bonuses but perhaps aren't entirely necessary for the acheron as it's motivation is it's flamer.
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>>51109547
No idea, bought anything lately
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>>51109586
Be Faster Next Time
>>51109628
A Whole New Era of No Fucks To Give
>>51109628
Old Stamper Font
>>51109628
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>>51109596

Yes they are. They are from a penal mining world.
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>>51109255
Not richfag, that's why I buy from the Chinaman
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>>51109446
with with you, cadians look so shit, i want something approaching modern milshit
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>>51108987

Well, we do have Imperial Armor 13 with rules for Renegades and Heretics.
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>>51109934
>>51109446

They're so old, bulky and just crappy.

Perhaps with Cadia blowing up we'll get new models.
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>>51106192
>>51108987
I was going to say "wtf" as I hadn't seen any such rules and spend way too much time looking for leaks because I want to know how to Grand Crusades work.

Well back to Google and looking for rumors while planning a second Army.
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Best plastic glue for hams?
Tested Revell Contacta and it's better then anything GW has ever had so that's great. But looking for anything that could be better.
Anyone has experience with "plastic cement" like Tamiya?
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>>51109446
Ignore those dumbasses man, just buy your ridiculously more expensive guardsmen
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>>51109446

Anvil Industries is coming out with greatcoat bits soon.
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Do I have to fire all weapons of the same type in a unit at the same time?

For example, if I have 5 dudes with weapon A and 3 dudes with both weapon A and B, can I say
>"Okay, five dudes are going to shoot weapon A"
>wait to see result
>"Now the other three are going to shoot weapon A instead of B"
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So, out of curiosity, my FLGS is having a kill team event next week.what should I do for the kill team booklet? I don't have interest in getting the whole set and taking forever to sell the extra's, and I don't have a tablet or any big device to purchase the digital rules for. And paying 20 bucks for a booklet for a side game that might just be flavor of the month is something that i'm not enthusiastic about. I'm thinking of just printing the rules from online and bringing that, but i'm afraid i'll get shit on for it. Do any of you guys have experience with GW's kill team events? Has anyone at your flgs brought the rules printed out? Were the other players fine with it?
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>>51110382
Buy the mini book from Ebay. If that's still too much for you then either pirate the epub and bring it on your phone, or print out the rules and bring those.
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>>51110349
All shooting is resolved at the same time.
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>>51110349
all weapons with the same name must be fired at the same time.
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>>51107582
>tfw your meme was saved
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What's the benefit of picking something like blood angels, dark angels, grey nights over just the stock standard marine codex? from a strategic standpoint is it a better choice to take one of these off-shoots with their own codex or does stock standard do the job just as well?
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>>51111424
Standard space marines do everything better than their off shoots.
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