Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1274: Squashing Beefs Edition

>>51096468
Gonna reply here.

The hunter one is no longer fiat backed pierce everything and kill it, no more of the whole "make everything scared:" from drop in, the builder one has changed from hold your hands over a pile of metal and make a ballista to get it in your inventory first. Finally no more evade everything

>>51096550

Keep in mind that Genius is based off science--the stuff that I AM RIGHT is based on is stuff like atomtech 50's worlds or steampunk cities iirc, not stuff that operates off shounen logic unless it had something to do with technology.

A better way of doing it would be based off technology from mecha shows or action movie logic or what have you.

Reposting the build and the finished writefaggotry. Lemme know how it looks.

Jump 03: Megaman Classic
Canon: The Protomen
Origin: Wily Number [900]
Apparent Age: 20
Perks:
Pun Power
Civilian Mode [800]
Combat Optimized - Aerial [700]
Elemental Affinity - Ice [500]
Unique Architecture [200]
OST

Items:
Special Weapon - Freeze Gun
Beam Saber [0]
Mega Buster [100]
E-Tank [50]
E-Balance [0]

Companions:
Assistant - Tempo [400]

Not!Companions:
Sniper Joe [300]

Drawbacks:
The Sons of Fate [600]

http://pastebin.com/5Pfaif9Y

>>51096705
Thank you Moth-Shaped-Person! I was trying to come up with a better explanation when the Archive hit. This Bancho-Anon is a better idea than what I had.

>>51096704
Would the effects of Primal Fear be increased if I am substantially more powerful than someone, even if I don't show them my abilities? Or is there a hard limit to when other beings can "shake it off"?

>>51096550
>Dr Fate level
That could be anything from barely city level to fighting cosmic gods and rezzing billions of people at once.

>>51096819
Yes they would be increased if you're stronger than someone by a wide margin. I'll add that to the Jump.

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>>51096550
>Bancho's questions about Genius
You don't pick an effect and just get it. That's not how GtT works. So this doesn't collapse into twenty questions, here's an example (from pg42 of the rulebook).

>Geniuses deal with non-repeatable phenomena and with deep weirdness, and reliable research is extremely difficult for the Inspired. When a genius uses a theory about the universe to build a wonder, her hypothesis might remain internally consistent, but it will also face competition from other hypotheses that are apparently equally valid.
>For example, let's say a Progenitor builds a healing machine based on her ideas of Orgone Energy. The genius tests the machine, and it 1) works and 2) confirms the genius' hypothesis about how the universe works. But then another genius comes along with a device that functions in precisely the same way, but he based it on completely different principles. He's muttering something about "quantized life force." But his principles 42are also consistent. Neither theory can be falsified with reference to experiments run with the other genius' wonder, yet both theories are, obviously, inadequate to explaining the true nature of the phenomenon, which allows both the Orgone Healer and the Quantized Life Energy Healer to exist. And if the two geniuses reconcile their theories ("seen from a ninth-dimensional perspective, quantized energy looks like Orgone Energy; the transformations become mathematically trivial"), a third genius comes along, and her healing machine uses nanomachines that have no place in either theory...

You might be able to produce a device that applies Shonen-like traits to someone, but you'll need to exhaustively qualify exactly what that means, and come up with a mechanism by which it functions. Mages can just say things are X and get what they want. Geniuses say "I want X. Maybe if I Y, I can have it." The universe will help them out if Y is unfeasible, but it won't just hand the final product to them.

>>51096705
>>51096800
Could you pull a The Hermetic Order of the 28 Spheres and have things seem more like magic? Alchemy, artifice, magitek, and the like?

>>51096917
Maybe if i feed someone the proper blend of vitamin megadoses it'll cure their cancer and make them immortal? That guy was nuts.

>>51096747
So... Do you make it?

Good stuff.

>>51096986
Not crazy enough. Think more along the lines of "Maybe if I feed someone the proper blend of vitamin megadoses and apply an electric current it will magnetize their cancer cells, allowing them to be torn apart by magnetic fields and pulled out of their pores."

>>51096917
Don't worry, it's Bancho. He's almost certainly committing enough stupid stuff to get Illuminated within the first week of the jump. Then the rules loosen a bit as I recall.

>>51096704
that actually seems Balance a pretty good,I'm really liking this jump so far I think I might take it next. Since no one has been tossing me like I've been asking. I'm loving these other perks. By the way, I'm going to build me a Mid century Ranch house that is clearly 2 feet in the air with no means of support.
>>51096705
well all right then that kind of makes sense. do you think I could use this to grant people spiral energy?

>>51096800
I feel like that's a sentence fragment.
>>51096861
Let's just split the difference and call it Madam Vashti/Artax level.
>>51096917
oh okay, so if I say "Deviations in Probability i.e. the magic of statistics arise from natural phenomena and can therefore be analyzed and reproduced, in fact I do have Isolated samples of both luck and narrative Weight why can't I use them to Tear away at baseline causality and promote everyone to the protagonist of their own story?" that would work?

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>>51096747
>Dead man walking.
High levels of corn detected.

Seriously though, that was pretty good stuff. I want to know what happens next.

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>>51097091
I am not arguing with that and am in fact making that part of my plan. bad ideas:the jumper, remember?

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What motivates your Companions, Jumpers? Why do they follow you?

What, if anything, would make them give up on the adventure and leave you?

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>>51097021
I haven't decided yet. I might make a part two to this, or leave it ambiguous. Not sure yet.
>>51097105
I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW IT'S ONLY 5% ALL NATURAL CORN.

Glad you liked it, tho.

>>51097130
Illumination counts as death Bancho, in game at least.

>>51097097
>Madam Vashti/Artax level.
Who's that?

>>51096393
>Superhuman precision?
I'm actually the one who asked about that. I said I was going to use it in a combo with a power from another jump and you disallowed it because of that.

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/46374042/#46376647

>>51097221

okay what kind of death? ,because I May have stuff for that, like stuff that maintains my sense of self No matter what,stuff that makes it so I can't lose my mind Further,stuff that gives me new lives of All three of my bodies are completely destroyed. , I am largely a late game tank spec jumper.
>>51097223
top-tier wizards from the same universe,
Artax is primarily A Evoker, He once made a wand Which managed to destroy a midrange medieval city.

Let's see, jump two.
Kamen Rider Hisei Part One
Unknown Amnesiac (free)
Nice Boat (free) Free boat, I'm not complaining
Good Cook (free)
"Luck" (900)
Goofy Innocence (800)
Awakening (600) Patterned after an ant
Psychic (400)
Seed of Light (100) Darkness was tempting for anti-Shonen powers, but would rather avoid being on a Rider's hit list and Agito is a belt.
Quarry (-100) Honestly seems rather nice for naming stuff like "Grongi" or "Idiots who are the fruit I was cultivating for Lockseeds" I mean second one isn't as much of a problem due to infestation no longer being an issue, but it's still Invess running around.
Riverprone (0) Well I've got river insurance from my boat, so may as well.
Was thinking of cross classing, but the Agito line is just so amazing for utility, especially early run. Probably play backup to Kuuga, because while lying low to avoid the supernatural serial killers might be the smart option the Grongi are the sort of thing that I don't feel comfortable doing nothing about when I have the power to prevent the hundreds of deaths they cause. Maybe throw some Lockseeds and Drivers to the police force, with explicit instructions not to use the summon function without damned good reason. Maybe see if I can help prevent that first Agito from killing herself. Still watching through Kuuga though so not really sure on a lot of the surrounding circumstances there.

>>51097288
like say the width of a human hair would work But molecular manipulation is kind of out there.

>>51097150
Frisk: I protected her and guided her on her journey, and she has decided to follow me on my own.

Asriel: Saved him from being a flower, gave him a new soul and helped him reconcile with Chara before they became one again.

Alma: Managed to calm her anger, and offer her a life free of her father and people who wanted to use her. Frisk and Asriel helped a lot.

Malefor: It's his punishment for his evil actions, and a chance for redemption. Rest of the group is keeping an eye on him, but they are trying to help.

Nana: I was a father figure to her, and protected her from all the shit that would have happened to her.

Bass: Beat him in a fair fight, and I offered him a chance to grow stronger. He took me up on it, and though he won't admit it, he's grown fond of the group, especially Nana. He and Malefor usually get into fights, though.

The only reason they would leave is if I lost my way and became truly evil. Well, most of them would, Malefor still has to stay.

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Jump 158 Halo-Covenant
Race: Huragok (100)
Background: Drop In (0)

Perks:
*Thoughtfully Faithful (0)
*Reclaimer (400, Discount)
*Fool, They ordered me to do it (100)
*Divine Origin (0)
*Total Understanding (400, Discount)
Equipment:
*Forerunner Trove (400, Discount)
*Human Data (200, Discount
Drawbacks:
*Surrounded by Idiots (+100)
*Ire of the Heirarchs (+500)

(not only do I have no idea what I am doing… someone was a little cruel to suggest this)

NOPE! Nope, nope, nope, nope! I’m out. So as if being a floating ball of tentacles (though oddly cute and humanoid do to perks) wasn’t bad enough I was supposed to be helping the covenant to destroy humanity.

I promptly uploaded every virus I could in to their systems, and escaped on Yuki my cabbit ship because there is no chance in hell of that. They were understandably a little upset with my choice to leave them. Perhaps I could have left on belter terms but I just found them to be revolting based on pure principle. Anyways my sabotage managed to delay them long enough we got away.

I headed for the first human world I could find… where I was promptly captured, They debated about dissecting me but being able to talk and giving them free technology and information seemed to win me at least enough credibility to live. I also warned the covenant would probably be not far behind since I wrecked their systems before leaving.

While they weren’t too pleased I managed to rig up some absurd tech (Rick & Morty Tech + Maddest Science yet from Tenchi Muyo + Light of Orcan from Warframe + Craftsman of the Gods from Viking Saga) along with Stop raiding me you bastards from Unholy heights I was able to turn a small outpost in to an impenetrable citadel.

(to be continued)

>>51097338
But why? Absolute precision in and of itself isn't powerful.

>>51097357
The humans didn’t know what was happening all they knew was I had placed a forcefield generator around the place that was tanking continent Killing class attacks and that the weaponry I was putting up was killing the largest covenant ships. I also went ahead and broadcast the schematics to the rest of humanity along with several other neat little Ideas to put them on par or exceed the technology of the covenant

We used Replicatetors that I built (Digital Sorcery from Fate/Extra – Heroes Feast& Create water) for Supplies and despite having to manage a bunch of humans running around like chickens with their heads cut off I managed to defeat the fleet they had sent after me. I realized that it wouldn’t be the last but I needed to hold out long enough for my ideas to go in to production. It would likely take years. However somehow I managed to pull it off. Humanity’s tech soon rivaled or exceeded the covenants. Even the tools of the forerunners were no longer a guarantee of victory and the Covenant was lost. They had no idea how to innovate or improve.

It began to farcture and fray faced with a foe it couldn’t defeat. They hated me but I managed to win some friends among the humans who through some coaching I had approach the covenant with a peace treaty. I had hoped they would take it but they refused. Unfortunately humans do know how to innovate. So when they redoubled their war effort, they died horribly, eventually they were forced in to a full and unconditional surrender. I regretted the massive loss of life but… I realize I can’t save a warlike bunch of races who’s only purpose was expansion and subjugation of other species from themselves

>>51097371
yeah,and who do you think is going to get yelled at when you go Phoenix on some planet you don't like?

>>51097097
>...and promote everyone to the protagonist of their own story?
"Everyone's already the protagonist in their own story, it's just not good for anything because they've all got equivalent quantum weight- the beneficial probability pull cancels out. But maybe, just maybe, I can steal some from one person and hand it off to another! The subjects would need to be fixated on the target at the time of the drain, though, so certain types of attention-grabbing behaviours would be beneficial..."

>>51097406
>"Everyone's already the protagonist in their own story, it's just not good for anything because they've all got equivalent quantum weight- the beneficial probability pull cancels out. But maybe, just maybe, I can steal some from one person and hand it off to another! The subjects would need to be fixated on the target at the time of the drain, though, so certain types of attention-grabbing behaviours would be beneficial..."


as I said the last thread. This is the kind of thing that makes my Jumper punch you into a sword and then feed you to his sword

>>51097396
Well, I mean, it's still line-of-sight. So unless you had teleportation (yet another completely unrelated power) or massive amounts of speed (yet another) or really good vision (and another), it's not exactly something you're going to want to use.

>>51097396
No one? Bancho, you're more likely to get yelled at for interrupting balance than you are for allowing someone to buy a completely valid ability and using it in a combo from someone else's jump.

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reposting for pride

Reminder that on SB, an E10 Exalt can take on Dragon Ball Super's top-tiers and win.

>>51097338
>>51097371
Anon, do note that Misc Meta improves over time, so if your Jumper can handle starting off at "width of a human hair" and being patient it will /eventually/ Get There (wherever There is).

Or if you're impatient, pick up perks like Legacy Of Use or Gamer's Skills to accelerate the process, or find an alternative that's better at getting you that level of precision - perhaps Omega Telekinesis in X-Men, or maybe a Stand in Jojo, or a Symbiote from Symbiote?

>>51097536
>Legacy Of Use
That only works for items, senpai.

>>51097536
I don't even care about getting it anymore. I just thought it was stupid to rule against it because he didn't like that I was comboing with something from another jump.

>>51097463
>>51097461
>>51097536
True, you just need a softcap Perk and it seems like an entirely reasonable ability for a stand or symbiont. hell I'll just allow it.

>>51096747
Edge of my seat. So did Dead Man make it?

>>51096973
There will be a perk for that in the Renaissance Man line.

>>51097097
>Do you think I could use this to grant people spiral energy?
Not really spiral energy. More along the lines of allowing folks to work with GN Particles or something that tries to be science but isn't really.

>Fragment
Most likely? Yeah it is.

>>51097292
As in it is identty death that you 'willingly' allowed to erase your own psyche for power. It's death.

>>51097406
Such a theory could lead to a Wonder, yeah.

>>51097480
I'm trying to make a Jump or I'd be all over this.

>>51097511
Until you can viably break the three tick barrier I don't see that happening. DB Super is too fast.

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>>51097601

>>51097444
It's gotta come from somewhere, Bancho, and if the source is easy then it's probably other people. If you go full Illuminated, you won't even care.

Think carefully about using the perks from a setting with "the Transgression" in the title. It's technically possible to get by without hurting anyone, but it won't be neat or clean.

>>51097573
Check the text.
>By truly mastering the self you may have this apply to you as well.

Don't know exactly how one goes about "truly mastering the self", and I don't think my Jumper would manage it, but it sounds like a worthy endeavour in itself for a Jumper who wants to do that sort of thing.

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>>51097511
And how is this going to be relevant to anything we do here ever?

>>51097623
It's settings like those that make me wary as a Jumper, because they make you your own greatest threat without even needing to take a drawback...

>>51097633
What the fuck? Not quite sure how I missed that. In terms of "truly mastering the self"? Probably "enlightenment". Maybe even just the path to it.

>>51097623
>Only be A Dick to assholes,power and responsibility are directly proportionate,I am more powerful than Many Entire nations .

my Jumper has lived by these words for over 5000 years and he's not about to throw that away for a couple of nice tricks. this is going to get tricky.

>>51097641
Because the communities inter-mingle. It's only a matter of time...

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Hey eagerDigger, if you're around I've got a Kamen Rider question.

Do I have to buy Devil in Disguise to Companion Anhk? Because it's the closest option I see to him. I'm already taking "I've got to be the one?: OOOs" and I'm pretty sure can come up with a way to save him, but I don't want to just snatch him up for free.

Or does he fall under The Other Guys option that isn't finished?

>>51096747
>That last line
Kickass. Corny, but awesome all the same. Great work! I appear to have missed the other jumps in this chain though; for my curiosity, what were they?

Are there any perks that let you "absorb" ammo and medicine vidya style? I want to have the Doom mechanics the jump misses before I head in.

>>51097715
How goes the Ogre Battle jump? I was diggin the way you did the fluff, really captured the feel of the games.

>>51097825
I think so? At least for medicine I remember seeing a perk that instantly grants the benefits of anything you eat, so as long as you ate medicine...

>>51097715
Devil in Disguise is OC, the OOO companion option is rather explicit about containing Ankh.

>>51097825
assimilation from worm lets you do that I think

>>51097511
Eh, they probably could if Super continues in the same vein as the other Dragonball stuff.

Just raw strength/energy bolts can be perfect parried and counter attacked, with infinite damage to get through their toughness. Probably need a Solar for it though, or some Shrike/Godspear tier Artifact.


More interestingly, I wonder how Dragonball would deal with gypsy curses or an Avada Kedavra?

>>51097869
I mean like absorb it on contact and have it attracted to me, like in the game.

>>51097884
Pretty sure that's not how that power works.

>>51097886
They'd probably just dodge Avada Kedavra. It's really slow by Dragon Ball standards. Might get a person with it before they figure out to dodge it instead of tanking it. But death is cheap in Dragon Ball.

>>51097886
on a similar note, if you pick up EX item creation in fate and give it some time. You can probably gear up enough to solo Dragonball since that stuff runs on power levels and A rank noble phantasms have conceptual supremacy

>>51097944
It explicitly mentions absorbing ammo for weapons you absorb, doesn't it? or you could go to Devil May cry and learn the trick to modifying weapons so they don't need ammo

>>51097511
Dragon Ball's lack of hax bullshit gives it really terrible compatibility against exalted, especially Solars and the UCS.

>>51097966
>It explicitly mentions absorbing ammo for weapons you absorb, doesn't it?
No it has your power provide the ammunition for any weapons you absorb.

>>51097886
>infinite damage
You see, that's bullshit.

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>>51097882
Well there's my reading comprehension fail for today. I totally didn't notice that last line. Them coming as a set is a bit of a problem, but thanks.

>>51097854
I'm almost done! I have to redo some fluff on the items because I had an idea on how to handle it better, then it's just the Drawbacks to write up. Drawbacks are being a pain for Ogre Battle though. I'm seriously lacking 100 and 200 level ones and I'm welcoming any suggestions.

Also, thank you. You asking about Orge Battle made my shitty day much better.

>>51097966
Detention gets discounts on FISS, but do they gain a discount on the 'pay 100 to upgrade a single trait' portion too?
Could I just by the first level wholesale and then by every tier of a single trait after that?

>>51097986
Yep, it's like fighting caped Baldy you want conceptual supremacy and percentile based bstract harm like being able to cast butcher knife or use spiky Shield
>>51098011
doesn't the storage deck from borderlands do something similar?

>>51098035
no, the upgrade does not have a discount. It's a Upgrade not a purchase of the ability

>>51098014
More like arbitrary damage, as in Fiamma style as much force as necessary to leave the enemy in X state. (usually a pile of ash, which the charm provides if the target wouldn't leave any ash normally)

>>51097955
Huh, that's true.

Wonder who would be stupid enough to stand there and try to tank the really slow, unthreatening "ki blast".

Probably Yamcha.

>>51098014
Yes. Yes, it is.

It's still something that can be done.

>>51098042
>doesn't the storage deck from borderlands do something similar?
No but that would be a good storage option for absorbed ammo if a combo is needed for this.

>>51098056
Er, the wording of the FISS text indicates that you /can/ purchase traits individually? Are you thinking of the final Rank 6 that is /only/ available via upgrading the individual trait purchase?

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>>51098032
Hype!

>>51092509
>you get one jump
Hero BBS. Immortality, magic, even limited multiversal travel...

>>51094560
>can an ACU build an ACU?
Yes and no.

Yes: an ACU can build the factory that builds ACUs.

No: ACU factory schematics are not normally supplied to ACU Commanders (even sACU schematics are only normally given to veteran Commanders), and ACUs are both heavily black-boxed and their AI hardwired to prevent being captured, let alone reverse-engineered (even by their own Commanders).

Your options are: ACU factories would be part of a Full Colonization Package, so suck up to your faction's High Command and try to schmooze a FCP from them, or get a perk that allows you to bend AIs to your will like silly-putty and tell your ACU to unlock itself for reverse-engineering. Or do something else along those lines.

Jumpers, when you took on a Grail War, how badly did you troll them?

Was it by sheer impossibly power or did you do shit like grab that one girl squirrel from The Sword in the Stone and have her hit on Saber while pointing out that Guenevere could no longer stand between them?

>>51098056
Does FISS grow?

>>51098194
>Unfortunately, the boosts granted by FISS are entirely based on meta-ability and cannot be improved in any conventional way, nor are you necessarily a very powerful FISS.

>>51098122
what if you reverse engineer Tediore technology and apply to those guns?

>>51098131
I'm saying you can't get the Discount for the upgrade,nothing to do with rank six.

>>51098194
It depends on your age, if you're a kid when you get it, it will grow in proportion to the difference in strength between a child and adult as you age

>>51098216
I don't into reading comprehension.

>>51097986
They could just get something like the Omniking to blow up the universe, the Solar might perfect defense through it, but then they end up in the infinite void of nothing.

>>51098167
Technically, you could also use the stuff from the Forged Alliance scenario. Doesn't that give you the schematics for all the tech the four factions have?

>>51098193
I unleashed a saber face virus, in prototype, where there is no saber face. As for how I made it, I got to be pretty close with Mordred in King Arthur.

>>51098220
What kind of strategic nuke can you weather? I assume a modern one, but who knows?

>>51098242
Oh, yes, that would work too.

>>51098032
Some kind of minor thing with Chaos Frame?
Pumpkins everywhere?
Deneb's Pumpkin-man experiment goes wild?

>>51098258
a small one,think more like little boy at 30 yards

>>51098220
For the record it is the absorbing of ammo vidya style not the finding or using of ammo that I'm having an issue with. I just really want to emulate the Doom Guy fully and completely.

I know there are more practical and more easily found options to get infinite ammo but I don't care about practical, the cool factor is where it's at. For the fun man.

>>51098220
Wait, if you're a kid does it start lower than what the description says? Or can it grow even higher than the description?

Also, why is the strength so ridiculously disproportionately low compared to the speed and durability?

>>51098220
>it will grow in proportion to the difference in strength between a child and adult
Wait. Do you start at where you buy with CP as a kid? Because that's several times stronger from that alone.

>>51098247
>I got to be pretty close with Mordred in King Arthur.

So will you call Saber your father in law where people can hear you?

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>>51098258
UG I'm rereading it now, she Rebalanced this entire table!

>>51098309
grow higher
>>51098311
yes,but bear in mind, it doesn't get better With conventional methods.

>>51098220
>Discount does not apply to FISS individual trait purchases.

Does that also apply to the "any one power" discount you can get from being in Cristina Kyle's homeroom or from being a Teacher?

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>>51098336
>this entire table!
Eh? Looks about the same to me.

>>51098336
Why is the strength so much lower than the speed and durability?

>>51098317
No, that sounds awkward, I'd rather just call her dad.

>>51098337
It'll get you a second discount on FISS but again , an upgrade is not a purchase and not eligible for discounts.

>>51098380
the meta has a bias against strength over 50 tons,so I went along with it.

>>51098407
>It'll get you a second discount on FISS
Wait - we only get one rank discounted?

>>51098280
Uh, that contradicts your previous posts where you said Rank 5 would let you take a direct hit from Little Boy (10 kt). Rank 6, if it's a city buster, would be more like 1 Mt. And the text uses the phrase "shrug off", not "survive".

>>51098309
Actually I did the math on that one (just to check whether you could actually move your body at top speed considering drag) and the strength is within ballpark of the speed. Remember, that's up to 50 tons across a (ostensibly) human-sized pair of hands.

>>51098407
I don't suppose there's any way you'll change it? The meta's changed a lot lately and there are a lot more higher strength options now.

>>51098407
If you have both discounts on FISS does that mean that it'll cost 375 to get the full rank 5 FISS? Are there any ways to make use of the 25 missing CP?

>>51098337
I don't think you can get a second discount on FISS. If you pick Detention you can't be a Teacher and don't get any other homeroom so no discounts from there. If you pick Teacher you can't get a homeroom or do Detention so no discounts that way.

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>>51098469
Whoa, inter-jump balance. Calm your tits, senpai.

>>51098446
It seems to read like you can purchase X ranks, and/or you can upgrade one of the traits to rank X+1?

>>51098505
Well that's the reason he gave for it not being higher in the first place.

>>51098407
>>51098489
See >>51098503

>>51098311
What would be a rough estimate of how much FISS would improve from being a ten year old to becoming an adult?

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>>51098446
no but if you're a teacher you're not getting the discount for being In detention now are you?

>>51098465
I can't into bombs or physics IRL,it's why I was a law student, I'm sorry

>>51098469
>>51098505
it's more like it would throw off what people could do and that would throw off builds and it's an earlier jump so that would throw off People's chains
>>51098503
pretty much what I've been trying to say.

Hey, Heart, not sure if you're still on or not, but I saw this while reading the serial and wondered if it was the same thing as the Gygax Scale.

>“That’s ‘cos I’ve read my Imperial Army encounter manual,” Ox rumbled. “Dryads are classified as a sapient monster race, neutral alignment, divine origin. Threat level of eight. I like my odds.”

>>51098503
Detention is now a complication on top of your Homeroom, you can get Kyle's class and Detention.

So while we're on the subject, is there any way to become a flying brick capable of being relevant in comics Marvel/DC?

>>51098556
No, read the text.
>This replaces whatever Homeroom you took above and essentially locks you out of all the plot and fun stuff like parties…

>>51098599
Go to bed, Timmy.

>>51098599
>So while we're on the subject, is there any way to become a flying brick capable of being relevant in comics Marvel/DC?

do what I did, eat Amazo in young justice and use , its power copying ability to copy the local Non-magical flying bricks.

>>51098610
I'm not the shitposter? I'm actually new here and I was wondering. I can't seem to find anything like that, but if prefer it over tech or magic stuff.

>>51098602
Speaking of the plot, how difficult is it, and should instead get one of the non-plot classrooms?

>>51098599
Animorphs. Copy a Martian. Kryptonians have the whole silliness with DNA DRM, but Martians are fine and even stronger than Kryptonians if you have a way to avoid fire.

>>51098638
You say the same thing every time someone calls you out.

>>51098545
I think there is some miscommunication here. If you're a teacher does rank five FISS cost 1350CP, or 750CP?

>>51098655
And you keep accusing people of being yourself.

>>51098599
If you go to Marvel and have perks that let you find stuff you could steal the serum that gives the Sentry his powers. By doing that you'd get to Superman levels and prevent a heroin addict from getting power near Superman levels (Causes a lot of issues). The easiest way is to find things that empowered DC/Marvel characters and use them.

>>51098599
Well, there is a way, but it involves magic. See, both Overlord and Smite have perks that allows your physical ability to match your magic power. So, grab one of those, get a shit ton of magic power, and presto!

>>51098599
Eat superman? Wish for Hercules' strength with the Genie? Get really good at exercising?

>>51096704
Is ARK jumpable yet?

>>51098640
Well, the Detention option is really the only total non-plot option. The others will still get you involved (even if peripherally) in plot stuff.

Difficulty-wise... so long as you've put points (so to speak) in common sense, you should be okay. Unless you dive headfirst into the plot, it might help if you think of PS238 as kinda like an anime slice of life with super-power action/mystery elements?

>>51098685
Didn't the serum drive him more insane? As in, give him an evil alternate ego insane?

>>51098685
Is that even the Sentry's origin anymore? And I wonder if the powers would keep working in other jumps besides? Don't they have something to do with being one second out of sync with the multiverse?

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>>51098645
I think you've got that backwards, you need to Overcoming your fear of fire to unlock the true power of a Martian.
>>51098665
it depends on if you take it as your discount.

>>51098638
There are a few coming; the Injustice jump will have some comics tier powers available including flying brick, the DC Mythic jump will also have that whenever CJ gets to it (might be a while), and the Superman TAS series will offer Kryptonian which while weaker than the Comics Variety should offer enough to fit in on the lower end of the relevant bricks.

>>51098599
Take a load of super-strength, use the biggest form you can to make the aforementioned strength gains proportionally huger and then use some sort of shrinking perk that makes your giant form regular sized while being gigantically strong (pym particles, that one from SimAnt, etc.)

This should give you quite a bit to work with. Shonen training is pretty good as well.

>>51098599
Get Softcap and all the time dilation items and perks to make an extreme hyperbolic time chamber.

Walk in, stay inside for a few millennia of constant lifting, walk out able to give Superman a noogie.

>>51098699
Look earlier in the thread, his has made some improvements but has been getting minimal feedback.

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>>51097480
Spacio, my stationman.

Drawbacks: Cult Wars, Eggs? Invasion of the Body Snatchers, The Blob, Nuclear Operatives, VIVA LA REVOLUTION! (1900)

Rolled USS Destiny

Human, Cook (1850)

Spess Law (Free)
Puritan (2050)
Spacephobia (2150)
Friend of Food (Free)
Swedish (Free)
Addicted (2250)
Clutz (2350)
Quantum Confectionary Arts (2050)
Powered by Laughter (1450)
Words to Live By (850)
Syndicate playing cards (800)
Pan-galactic gargle blaster (Free)
S.H.O.D.A.N. (0)

You'd think being criplingly addicted to increasingl conceptual drugs while having the fine motor control of Mr. Bean and also paranoia be a major impedement to a chef.

You'd think wrong. Because through the power of [MELODY], every mealtime looks like a one-man Looney Tunes episode-but the dirac sea soup and the Bose-Einstein condensate lasagne come out fresher than ever, and right on time. The tricky part is juggling the Hegra's humanform jotun with the rest of the cutlery and ingredients flailing wildly in the storm of black comedy my kitchen has become. At least Hegra seems to be having fun.

Anyway. I've got to find a way to make us all work together to stamp out the cults so-friends! Aliens! Lend me your ears! Some of us want to detonate the nuclear bomb I've recently awakened into being a sentient entity. Others want to forcibly impregnate the mime. But there is one thing, in these dark times, that unites us in ways no cult of gibbering madman ever could:

COMMUNISM.

What have the heads of the station ever done for us anyway? They're the ones who let everything get this messed up in the first place! If we put aside our differences, together we can build the first socialist worker's paradise...in space. You have literally nothing to lose but your willingness to be killed by oversight's incompetence.

Just in case Narsie and Ratvar do pull a fast one though-can you combine Powered by Laughter and Words to Live By to...do something?

>>51098773
Also include that perk that can let you train on auto pilot.

>>51098775
People were only wanting to talk to Tera about something stupid.

If SMTanon is around, Does Lord of Vermin's Magic immunity have limitations?

If i want to allow magic to affect me, can i do that?

>>51098599
Get the potion from gothic that increases strength and the infinite liquid generator from Terraria. Then get really really thirsty and start drinking.

>>51098713
Kind of unclear. He had a few mental issues so it could have been just him. Maybe get an anti-insanity perk just in case.
>>51098733
Something about his atoms being an instant ahead of the current timeline. No idea how that gives him his powers though. It's all internal I think so it should keep working if you assume that you get a human form that works according to the laws of the Marvel universe when you go there.

>>51098599
Get Data Drain from Generic Virtual World, kill a Kryptonian and take their power. Or get Power Copying from Heroes and do the same. Or use Deal With The Devil convince a Kryptonian to trade you their power.

>>51098773
Though you'd probably need some starting superstrength to work off with that plan, or significantly more than a few millenia.

Softcap still has diminishing returns after all. You're unlikely to get Superman-tier buff in time, if you're lifting weights with only softcap and no other advantages.

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>>51098825
Reminder that Sentry's real power isn't even his physical abilities. Those are just fringe benefits of his absurd psychic powers and molecular manipulation.

I'm really surprised I've never actually seen anyone go for the Serum. You're mostly only doing the world a favor by preventing Bob from getting godlike powers, anyway.

>>51098713
Pretty sure Bob was already a paranoid schizophrenic and agoraphobic. The Serum just made it so that stuff could manifest into the real world.

>>51098903
The Sentry is basically Eidolon, his powers are whatever he needs at the time.

>>51098785
Where was that from?

>>51098865
You know, this makes me want a Gym jump.

>Whey Shake that drastically speeds that drastically speeds up gainz
>Weights that can be as heavy as you need them to be
>Zyzz and Arnold companions

>>51098959
That would actually be great.

Is it possible to kill the Hivemind in Generic Zombie Apocalypse? It shouldn't be that powerful, given that it needs zombies to do its' dirty work, but the image is that of Shub-Niggurath, and there's now way I can fight an Outer God.

>>51098959
Master of Magic, it wakes you up if you're attacked so while it works for researching magic or simple strength training it won't work for combat training.

>>51098799
Read the notes and make that call for yourself.

Sure.

>>51098865
I think there's a perk somewhere that gives you no limits on your improvement and doesn't slow down at the cost of a much slower learning/growth rate. Can't remember where it's from though.

>>51098959
We already have wii fitness.

It's gym plus a qt trainer.

Other than Read the Guide from Minish Cap are there any good replacements for PtV?

>>51099022
I think Mardukth has said that Mage of Light from SBURB works the same way as PtV.

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>>51091198
No, the 50cp and the OC ones can't get the 1000CP perks. The Master companion for Servants can get it however, as can Servant companions who buy Pseudo Servant.

>>51091262
No, I don't want there to be situations where 20 True Magic users show up out of nowhere because that's silly. The 1000cp options are meant to be near unique and special, not something a cheap import or companion option can get a hold of. Why would it be about power when you can, with effort, do as >>51091288 says and gain all of them yourself?

>>51091810
Saber Arturia.

>>51094356
The perk gives you one full as Archers was.

>>51098959
We still have stuff like Bloody Roar's weights and Killer Instinct's Combo Gym already

Not even counting stuff available in something like Kenichi among others

>>51099022
Seer of Light from Sburb?

Maybe just some good precog abilities in general.

>>51098903
Yeah, the Void did say that the serum that made Bob into the Sentry (or maybe made him into the Void, which one of them is the real identity and which is the projected alter is far from clear) would have worked on anyone. Though the Void also claims to be the literal Angel of Death, something that Uatu confirms, and that his and Bob's powers come from channeling God's will, not any super-serum. Like pretty much everything to do with the Sentry, it's weird and confusing and contradicts itself a lot.

>>51099105
>The Master companion can get it as can Servants
No, they can't. I won't allow that.

>>51098996
Oh yeah.

>>51099012
We do? ...Did not know that.

>>51099107
Cool.

>>51099105
>you can, with effort, gain all of them yourself
They won't work unless you buy them.

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>>51099175
Up to you.

>>51099083
>>51099137
>I need to read up on SBURB.
Fuck, I feared this day would one day come.

What are some good ways to blow all my magical energy quickly? I need to brute force some training with Leaky Limiter.

Also, does anybody know of a perk that would get rid of physical tiredness? Resting is a pain.

>>51099208
It's okay. SBURB is fine, all the stuff important to that happened well before Homestuck went turbo-stupid. It was just when Homestuck was regular stupid.

>>51099199
Great, thanks. I hereby ban Master and Servant companions from purchasing 1000 CP perks.

>>51099199
Leotards are pretty great tho

>>51099229
Final Casting from Maoyuu Demon King and Hero lets you put all your magic into one spell. It's only one per day, though.

>>51099233
While we're banning things we have no authority to do I hereby ban you from JumpChain and the /JC/ threads.

>>51099229
Maoyuuu Yuusha Demon King has a perk for that. Or just use Wish Granting from Fate which has exponentially-scaling costs. Then just fuck off to space or something.

>>51099230
Half way through the introduction and your statement only serves to terrify me about what it's like now.

>>51099233
Nope. She gave you permission to forbid Masters from taking them. Servants are outside your jurisdiction, Mendoza!

>>51099105
>as can Servant companions who buy Pseudo Servant
Black Grail Jackie?
*nods*
Black Grail Jackie.

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>>51099198
Why would that be? I've said that if you purposefully take action to fuck the Sorceries with science in setting without buying it, you'll suffer for it too if you learnt one in Setting, but it's fairly easy to not do that at which point it will remain working as it does in setting in future settings.

So just don't mass produce portal guns or time machines and give them to everyone.

>>51099248
They are aren't they?

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>>51099197
>We do? ...Did not know that.
Well, it's wii sports resort.
Same universe though.
>>51099257
you took the b8

>>51099266
Yeah, Homestuck does that.

Good luck, anon. Hang onto your sanity.

>>51098737
Dude, you are making this far more complicated than necessary with all your conditional discounts. How hard is it to do what damn near every other jump does and just list who gets what discount at the beginning or end of the perk? This shit should not read like a flowchart made by Jackson Pollock.

>>51099257
I do have the authority to ban it, though. See >>51099199 . It's up to me, anon.

>>51099229
That very same jump has the All Seeing Eye, which uses tremendous amounts of mana very, very quickly. This means you get more practice seeing more/for longer, and you get far more mana over time as you train you leaky limiter.

Also the Sims games have a 'sleep' or 'energy' stat you wear out by doing physical activities and over time, and restore by sleeping, so the varied ways in the Sims 3 to refill it quickly will probably work.

>>51099301
What the hell is this bullshit? I have read the introduction and all it has told me is. . . fuck I have no idea what it wants to tell me. It makes no god dammed sense! The hell am I supposed to be doing?

>>51099285
How long would it take to make Ea level items with the First magic? You said EX was tens of millenia (IIRC), and I'm not sure how much more bullshit Ea is.

Also, I was reading the supplement and it says Natural Body makes strength always rank up. What does that mean and what happens with EX?

>>51099266
Oh, god, it got so dumb. You know how Homestuck fans are super annoying? Thing is, Andrew Hussie agreed. He hates the obsessive parts of his fandom. So he got into this weird self-sabotaging thing where he made the series as dumb as possible, basically playing chicken with the fans to see how far he could take it before they'd give up on it. They never did. He introduced annoying character and annoying character, daring his fandom to stop loving them. It didn't work. It got to the point where his characters would go on screeds lasting page after page full of thinly-veiled metaphors for how much Andrew Hussie hates his fans and how they're all garbage people. It didn't work. It's kind of hilarious, from an outside perspective.

>>51099282
I cant tell if you mean Jackie Chan or Jack the Ripper

Neither of which seem like good ideas

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>>51098987
No idea, but in the past Outer Gods have operated through human proxies. Pretty sure Whateley was conceived through Yog-Sothoth possesing a dude.

>>51096704
>Respawn

This shouldn't remain in any capacity after the jump. It's a vidya mechanic; Mega Man, Minecraft Metroid etc. have similar in their games and they certainly aren't present in future jumps.

>Basic Video Game Bullshit
>speciman implant
>unlimited resources
>Engines of War
>Eyes of the Hunter

On the one hand, I think you're conflating the game mechanics of the world too far with what the game is actually supposed to represent i.e. a bunch of naked dudes /struggling/ to survive, rather than a bunch of cartoon characters teabagging dinosaurs for funsies. Again, as a general rule-if you're writing perks for a setting without blatent supernatural effects having complete absolutes is a no-no.

On the other hand, there is are broadly similar things to this in Minecraft/Elona.

On yet another hand, those games have more distinctly seamless merges of gameplay and mechanics than Ark does.

On the whole, I'm going to say these are too meta and shouldn't be here.

>Negotiator
>Loving Master

Can you actually negotiate with animals in the game? I thought you just beat them up and tamed them.

>Running the fuck away

You can always run away...except when you can't? I think this would be worded better as a talent for escape in general rather than having absolutes like "always" thrown around.

>Engram

What is this?

>Directed Growth

It's not clear what this does; is it a permanent buff, or do they just fight better when you lead them? If the latter, it would be a better idea to avoid the percentiles/attributes and just phrase it as "things fight better when you lead them"

>Breeder of Armies

Is this even present in the game?

>Fighter of the Elements

This is a blatently supernatural skill. Its' price should be swapped with one of the 400 CP perks.

(cont'd)

>>51099387
Is he doing anything now?

>>51099407
>This shouldn't remain in any capacity after the jump. It's a vidya mechanic; Mega Man, Minecraft Metroid etc. have similar in their games and they certainly aren't present in future jumps.
It's a 1-Up perk Garlock and it fits the setting.

>>51099363
Kill monsters, build your house ever taller, and eventually have some weird moral growth from interacting with a big monster. Then you go fight the final boss. If you're a Space player you also have to breed the perfect frog, from which a new universe will be made, and if you're the Time player you have to keep all your friends from fucking up causality. There are some complications in the mechanics, true, but the core is simple.

>>51099375
>Tens of millennia
>Cut down to a few dozen years with Enhanced Mastery
God that power is my favorite thing in the whole chain, I swear.

>>51099407
>Outer Gods have operated through human proxies
So I might be dealing with an actual Outer God here. Shit. Might have to pay some cp to take a different option...

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>>51099407
>True Survivor

This verges on the perks I have lumped under "too much game in the setting", but if you made it so you AREN'T some kind of perpetual motion machine and simply made it a very good survival buff you could swap it with something else and making Piercing Blow the capstone.

>Industrial Forge

Should clarify it works mainly for mundane ores

>Atlas of Ten Thousand Beasts

What is this based on in the game, and how does it justify a private zoo in your back pocket?

>>51099387
I'm surprised that from what little I heard about the ending, it doesn't involve Lord English somehow powering up enough to break through the 4th wall and murder the readership.

Oh geeze. It reminds me of Anno's reaction to the Evangelion fanbase as expressed through the Rebuild movies.

>>51099105
>Saber

I'm surprised, Val.

Wasn't quite sure who I was expecting, but I would've never guessed Saibah.

>>51099440
>1-up

It yields 5 fiat-backed respawns a month. If it were once a year sure, but it ain't.

>it fits the setting

Well, I disgaree because ostensibly the setting is about surviving on an island with barely anything to your name, and because plenty of other videogames have respawn mechanics which aren't represented in their jumps.

>>51099407
>It's a vidya mechanic; Terraria, Bayonetta, Mario, Aion, Killing Floor, Rust, Custom Robo etc. have similar in their games and they certainly are present in future jumps.

I mean, not that some of your complaints aren't valid, but... c'mon man.

>>51098545
Anon who pdf'd the 2.1 edition here. Noticed the thread. Do you want a 2.2 edition with the following updates:

* FISS text: discount applies to rank purchases, not trait upgrades.
* FISS 5 table: append ~10kt
* FISS 6 table: append ~1Mt
* Notes: FISS 5/6 means you can "shrug off" a small tactical or strategic nuclear weapon respectively. Bigger nukes can still stun, harm or even kill you. It's your chain, fanwank something.

And now I am remembering the episode of Lois & Clark where Clark got nuked - he survived, but he had so much radioactive dust embedded in his body that nobody else could go near him until they figured out how to remove it.

Haven't started on the imaged pdf, bunch of work has landed on my plate (but hey, I get to eat real food!)

>>51099490
>It yields 5 fiat-backed respawns a month.
In setting, post jump it is just a once per jump 1-Up like all the others.

>>51099400
>Servant Jackie Chan
Don't be ridiculous, that's not even a thing.
...is it?

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>>51099363
Pray your session isn't a clusterfuck of alien universes in an endless loop of creation, orchestrated by a being of unimaginable power. But if it is, waifu a troll.

>>51099520
>>51099400
Name five Servants that aren't Jackie Chan.

>>51099521
>waifu a troll.
Shit idea alert.

>>51099514
>* FISS 5 table: append ~10kt
>* FISS 6 table: append ~1Mt
>* Notes: FISS 5/6 means you can "shrug off" a small tactical or strategic nuclear weapon respectively. Bigger nukes can still stun, harm or even kill you. It's your chain, fanwank something.

please and thank you

>>51099520
It's not.

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>>51099483
Mind you, I'm actually not sure; it's been a while since I've asked Stupid Dog about the exact nature of that thing. For me it falls under the whole "Outer Gods gonna getcha" part of my chain, but that itself is a personal houserule of sorts.

>>51099516
Whoops, sorry. Misread. Complaint withdrawn.

>>51099507
I was actually thinking of those as examples for 1-up perks, but yeah-my bad.

>>51099514
>* FISS 6 table: append ~1Mt
So FISS isn't restricted to level 5 anymore?

>>51099452
From what jump?

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>>51099490
>Wasn't quite sure who I was expecting, but I would've never guessed Saibah.

Cant go wrong with the classics, Altered or otherwise

>>51099551
Saber, Archer, Gilgamesh, Jackie Chan, Lancer... wait, damnit!

>>51091810
Design wise it's Attila.

It's why I'm disappointed that she's an alien genocide machine. It means I can't go Charlemagne as her descendent and have to change my build.

>>51099431
He got 2 million dollars in a Kickstarter to make a Homestuck game, got scammed out of the money, then pawned all the writing for the game off on somebody else.

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>>51099520
Look I didnt know if you companioned and imported the Ladder God Himself, I cant predict anything

Also Jack is for taking care of, not corrupting

>>51099551
Li Schwen
Kojirou
Okita
Benkei
Jackie Cha- FUCK

>>51099490
>I'm surprised that from what little I heard about the ending, it doesn't involve Lord English somehow powering up enough to break through the 4th wall and murder the readership.
That's because Lord English already broke the 4th wall to kill Hussie himself several acts prior to the ending, so repeating it for the audience would be just rehashing an old idea.

>>51099572
You can upgrade one of the F, I, S or S in your FISS abilities to Rank 6 now.

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>>51099375
Well given Ea is an EX rank and all, it'll take as long as an EX rank.

>>51099490
Man, that sort of heroic, ever chivalrous knight King is just too inspiring to not love.

>>51099573
Worm.

>>51099514
>>51099558
>* FISS text: discount applies to rank purchases, not trait upgrades.

...So, assuming I just want to buy FISS 5 for only Invulnerability. Would that be discounted to 250 or still be 500?

>>51099621
>alien genocide machine
I thought she was just a Saber.

Can someone post the new PS238 jump? It's not on the drive.

>>51099658
Discounted would be 750 since you need a purchase to get an upgrade

>>51099521
Right. . . let me edit my earlier question
Other than Read the Guide from Minish Cap OR ANYTHING FROM SBURB are there any good replacements for PtV?

>>51097314
Things went fairly well. Turns out giving the police mildly effective weapons from the start helped a lot. Slowed Kuuga's growth a bit due to not quite as much necessity for him to shoulder everything. Was even able to avoid getting brutally murdered by either brand of serial killer monster. Managed to help some of the other Agitos avoid the many pitfalls of their powers, but mostly focused on killing Lords and messing around with my Gaim Drivers. Preferred Agito due to lack of needing to carry stuff around, but there were some fights where throwing a bunch of mechs at someone via Harvest Lockseed was the better answer.

>>51099635
Shit. I haven't looked at the new one at all. Can teachers still get Level 5 for 750CP?

>>51099640
EX God-hand would only nullify up to A+++, right? Why is that, exactly?

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>>51099557
>he doesn't like yellow sclera
>he doesn't want to touch a grey tongue
>he doesn't want to kiss a mouth full of knives
>he doesn't want to pail with a tentabulge
It's like you're not even /d/egenerate.

>>51099658
I think if you just wanted to be nigh-invulnerable rather than get anything else in the FISS package, you're better off with Misc Meta.

>>51099707
It nullifies that and heavily weakens EX rank attacks. That's so you aren't completely invincible to other Servants.

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>>51099686
Getting gud yourself through ages of experience and practice

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>>51099676
did you check the new uploads?

>>51099740
Not there.

>>51099733
No you see that is how I succeed in the plan Not!PtV will give me, I still need the Not!PtV.

>>51099624
>pic
Jack has seen some serious shit there.

>>51099676
>>51099704
>>51099740
I should post v2.2 shortly.

>>51099755
Yes it is.

>>51099768
GET

GOOD

>>51099685
Huh? I don't want the Flight, Speed, or Strength. Just the Invulnerability, the rest is redundant for me.

The jump I'm reading say:

>Some FISS may be stronger or weaker in certain traits; you can, instead of paying 300 CP to increase everything by one rank, pay 100 CP to increase only one of your abilities.

So, I'm asking if I can just pay 100cp (or 50cp with discount) five times, to get FISS 5 Invulnerability without the rest.

>>51099722
...Maybe.


Hey, Bancho, could Misc Meta get me comparable Invulnerability?

>>51099740
Can you answer >>51098537

>>51099640
I've got a (probably stupid) question: can you break a Noble Phantasm? If you've got a Noble Phantasm which passively cuts through anything and you clashed swords with Excalibur or Gae Bolg would your sword just cut them in half?

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>>51099773
Books are scary shit, with all of those things that can be inside them

>>51099789
Found it. I was looking for a PS238 jump, the lack of PS238 in the title threw me.

>>51099778
You have Navel Broadside at rank 4, shouldn't that be a battleship's main gun? A broadside is way weaker than the rank before it.

>>51099827
You can break/Break Noble Phantasms yes. They repair themselves slowly in a materialised state over time so they'll eventually be restored.

Is there anything else that can give either a clone of Enhanced Mastery or a reasonable facsimile?

>>51099851
Thanks, will fix.

>>51099721
I'm not. I have a bunch of weird fetishes, but hermaphrodites with a psychological need for two partners aren't part of it. The nightmarish breeding is something that can be a plus but in this case is weird and stupid and not.

>>51099798
He said proportionally to a child's strength compared to an adult's. Now, that's a lot of math I don't want to do atm, but it's going to be at least twice as much, at a very conservative estimate.

>>51099686
Get something like Conjoined Conjures and another perk such as Dark Wisdom... or Abyssal something... the one from Overlord that lets you overcharge spells.

Then go to Mage the Awakening and go Acanthus, Master Time and Fate and get a little bit of Space. Now make a Time/Fate spell with conjunctional Space that's a short term precognitive spell that tells you in rough terms how to do what you want to do so long as it's within X = mana minutes/hours whatever is balanced. Then port that into another magic system and overcharge it with mana. Tada, you've made your own PtV spell, though anti-precog/scrying may screw you over.

There's probably ways to do that easier, I just don't know them.

>>51099851
Which reads better, "Battleship Main Guns" or "Battleship Broadside"?

>>51099791
No, it's an upgrade you need a base for an upgrade.
and for the miscellaneous meta . It isn't really meant to cover things covered in FISS >>51099798
do I seem like it would be a pediatrician to you?I'm good at Google and I can't Find any sort of benchmarks for these differences.

>>51099877
The hermaphrodite thing is just fanon.

Now embrace the enjoyment of a species for whom threesomes are a normal and necessary reproductive behavior.

>>51097809
I'll post all three jumps together a bit later, since there's been long gaps between when I update them and when I started.

By the way, perks.

Here, Eat This Apple [100, Free for Rogue] - It will make you look even more like a bitch. You are good at looking smug and superior in whatever position you’re in - in strength or weakness. Whether or not you are actually the stronger one in a confrontation, you are just good at looking confident while pushing your opponent’s buttons. You can easily goad someone into a foolish argument or infuriate them into making a mistake, so long as they don’t see it coming. Hot-headed Magical Girls don’t live very long, after all, and you’re good at exploiting that.

Tough Love [100, Free for Rogue] - The world isn’t a nice place, contrary to what all those bright-eyed idealists will tell you. But at the same time, it’s not all bad - people constantly overlook things like their strong points in favor of chasing silly dreams or impossible wishes. You’re able to use the right amount of tough and cold-hearted in your words to snap someone out of a depression or get them to realize they’re about to self-destruct. Even more than that - people will instinctively realize that you really do mean well, deep down, so long as you’re actually trying to help them. This may not always work, but your barbed words and anger are born of worry and wanting to see them do better...and they’ll know that.

>>51099898
The first one, if only because a battleship doesn't have broadsides. That weapon arrangement is only found on pre industrial era ships and some less realistic scifi ones.

>>51099899
But there is the Misc Meta girl with the protective aura that gives her pseudo-invulnerability (actual limit unknown).

>>51099899
You said the other day that you can stack Misc Meta purchases for a single stronger power, but the jump says you can't.

>>51098783
im going to have to say no...

The lewd and sexual advances I cant really see molding well with a perk that literally has to go in the opposite direction and attempt to be funny...

joke = mood killer
funny =/= not sexy or lewd

>>51099856
So if I've got a sword that cuts things in two it'd be able to just slice through Excalibur if Saber tried to block it? That's good to know, thanks.

The reason I'm asking is that I'm considering summoning Arngrim as a Berserker to be my Servant in one of the wars. Probably Fate/Zero. He'd have the magic sword Tyrfing which I've worked out to have the passive ability to "divide" anything it touches, splitting it in two along the same plane as its blade. This effectively gives Tyrfing the ability to cut through anything and also makes it horrifyingly dangerous. Even a single nick of Tyrfing would be incredibly dangerous; if it nicked your shoulder you'd be bisected down the middle, if it cut your wrist you'd lose your entire hand. This power would be strong enough that Arngrim could slice something the size of a skyscraper in half simply by grazing it. What rank do you suppose this kind of NP would be? I was imagining A+ or A++ but I don't know for sure.

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>>51098267
Well, I can't do anything with Chaos Frame. The one I'm making is specifically The March of the Black Queen, as I haven't played any other the other games and don't want to lock someone out from making a Jump for them.

The other two though. Those are great ideas, much appreciated.

>>51099953
>You may choose up to three thematically related abilities, though choosing fewer
>than three will make the remaining power(s) more powerful but only a little bit (the power curve will
>look something like this {1+1+1, 1.25+1.25, 2}).

>>51099725
I mean, isn't an EX (attack) pretty weak in the long run? It's not like it's something that can be improved, and that's... not really how it works.

>>51099899
Okay... So, I buy the base FISS (I guess I'm also a slow flyer and a bit speedier), for 150 discounted.

Then I need 4 upgrades to get Invulnerability to 5. So 550 if I don't get discounts to those? Or 350 if do get discounts.

Neither option equals the 750 total you mentioned? That'd only result if I bought everything up to 5, which is kind of a waste for me.

Which one is it?

>>51099949
yeah and that's beyond the benchmarks I set forth for the power now isn't it? maybe like 4 purchases of "protective field"

>>51099953
hey>>51099778 could you fix that as well?
>>51099990
No discounts on the upgrades just the base

>>51099984
No I meant multiple purchases.

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>>51099923
>more Madoka
Hooray!

Captcha that is graffiti, not a street sign.

>>51100011
>If you’re a Teacher you may Discount any 1 Power for yourself.
>Each purchase of Misc Meta counts as one item, and FISS, no matter what the rank, always counts as one item.

>>51100090
Purchases of "Rank" are not the same as Upgrades of "trait". It will be made clear in 2.2

>>51100011
So you can stack multiple purchases on the same power?

>>51099923
>first spoiler
...We have a jump that gives us infinite apples, right?

>>51099725
Would God hand also give you the 11 resurrections and ability to develop an immunity to attacks? This seems like it could be part of my Doomsday build.

>>51100116
So if you discount your FISS and buy it at level 5, with one upgraded trait, the cost would be 850?

>>51100139
One extra life pre-Spark and temporary immunity, though EX increases the time of immunity.

>>51099969
If you had one sure. Erm. That's...not going to be A++ if it can do match Excalibur's big blast in damage output with every normal strike for no energy cost, especially if it's also meant to cut through anything at all as well.

I could see it having that effect an EX rank with a required mana expenditure for larger and larger effects but the 'cut through anything' bit wouldn't be much more then what a normal sword NP would have (Which is still cutting through anything that's not supernaturally tough/bullshit science tough). You could also do the opposite and have it cut through anything, even other EX rank NPs, but the exaggerated damage effect would be a lot smaller. It'd make wounds worse but not by too much.

>>51099989
Why would I care about the long run when I'm solely looking at things from the point of the Supplement and Fate? Where negating even EX rank attacks makes you completely invincible against all but a handful of beings in the Nasuverse, with only a tiny number of Servants being potentially able to harm you?

>>51100139
It gives one resurrection but it does give the adaptive resistance part of it too yes.

>>51100011
>No discounts on the upgrades just the base
>looks at my FISS... F5 I1 S6 S1 build...

...Welp. I guess that cost me 1050cp instead of the 650 I thought it did.

Time to go standard FISS, because it's cheaper? This makes no Sense

>>51100116
>>51100011
It seems like you two aren't saying the same thing here with respect to FISS.

If you buy FISS 5, is that one purchase worth 1500 that can be discounted to 750 or is it 1350 (150+4*300)?

>>51100181
>It gives one resurrection
It gives one Resurrection or only one of the resurrections it gives you prevents your chain from ending?

>>51100250
The latter. Only one resurrection as it counts for the chain.

>>51099725
>heavily weakens EX rank attacks.
How does that even work? It only "partially" pierces your skin? Isn't it supposed to be an all-or-nothing sort of thing?

>>51099902
I don't share.

>>51100296
It heavily weakens the amount of damage or power it has when it hits you? It seems pretty clear to me.

>>51100261
You should note that in the new supplement because with enough mana the resurrections can replenish, it would be bad if someone got the idea they had a 1-Up every other day instead of it only working once per jump.

What jumps have " robot schematics" items? I know Clone Wars, Samurai Jack, and Megaman Zero do, but are there any other jumps? And yeah, I know Supreme Commander ACUs are great for building robot armies, but I want to save that for later in the chain.

>>51100011
I can fix it, but please double-check what you want:

#1. A purchase of Misc Meta's three thematic effects can all be the same power to make it stronger, with diminishing returns, but you can't stack multiple purchases of the same power.

#2. A purchase of Misc Meta's three thematic effects can all be the same power to make it stronger, with diminishing returns, but you can stack multiple purchases.

>>51100213
Flight 5 but only Invuln 1? Assuming your typical non-aerodynamic human body shape, I'd be worried about ripping apart when going transonic let alone maxing out.

>>51100344
Go Pacific Rim and just automate the Jagers.

>>51100314
>You will never watch you waifu grab her greatest rival and ravish her, inviting you to join in.
pleb

>>51100344
Medabots

>>51100339
It'll be in the rulings part yes, but I doubt there'll be any confusion unless someone purposefully tries given I've always said it's a once per jump thing.

>>51100181
I have a dumb question. How long would I need to practice with the first to make a cup of tea?

>>51100350
#2

>>51100344
Command and Conquer Red Alert, maybe?

>>51100296
Just a guess but I think she means:
God Hand would normally nullify any attack that isn't more powerful than the NP, since she doesn't want to allow you to Null EX level attacks the EX instead allows it to weaken attacks that it can't nullify.

>>51100369
Please address>>51100241

I'm going to bed you folks can ask me about more stuff in the morning

>>51100366
I'd imagine you could do that straight away.

>>51100344
Custom robo has a small army of small robots - and I mean in sheer number, not in size.

Beyond that, each origin has an associated high class robo - or at least, the data to build one. Drop in also has a machine to get data on the things you fight.

>>51099721
I'm cool with everything besides the tentabulges. That's just nasty, yo.

The real reason to take a troll origin in that jump is to finally understand how the hell the quadrants work.

>>51100137
That will be an item for Rogue later. Speak of!

Back Alley Chef [200, Discount for Rogue] - Food is one of the ultimate pleasures of life, and is essential to survival! Even if you could technically survive without anything to eat now, starvation is still a terrible feeling, even as a little nagging sensation. Fortunately, you grew up in dire straits and knew the pain of starvation - so you’re well-equipped to avoid it. You’re able to make filling and even delicious meals out of things like dollar store instant ramen, a bag of chips, and some leftover cookies, making it feel like a gourmet feast to the ones who eat it. As a bonus, poisoning from old or overripe food just doesn’t phase you anymore, and you no longer gain unwanted weight from eating sweets or fattening foods. Bon appetit!

Life Is Short [200, Discount for Rogue] - Any minute now, you could die in anything from a car accident to a Wraith attack. Even if you no longer age or worry for physical death, you’ll find yourself exhausting all has life to offer fairly quickly. Well, nuts to that. You’re able to keep appreciating and finding value in simple pastimes like video games or talking to your friends, and it will be just as exciting as it was the first time. Who has time to be bored about everything done under the sun? That just means it’s time for round two.

>>51100413
So you're literally just handing out free omnipotence. Thanks, I guess?

>>51100361
Repulsive creature.

>>51100443
No, she's handing out free tea. Weren't you listening?

>>51100181
What if I scaled it to durability? What Tyrfing does is basically split things apart. When it cuts something it transmits the cut much further through the target than it normally would go, essentially splitting it in half. For mundane materials (stuff that's not supernaturally tough/bullshit science) it can cut a ridiculous ways into it, so much that it can cut a very large object in half with a single swing. But for something like Excalibur, which is much harder but also much, much smaller I'd imagine it would at least damage it. Maybe make it so that it slices notches into the blade (with risk of eventually breaking the sword entirely if Saber tries to block too many hits) instead of just cutting through it in one blow? The effect would still apply to Saber, of course, in that if she got cut by it the sword would straight-up bisect her immediately even if it was just a shallow nick. But I don't imagine Tyrfing would have anywhere near the strength to cut through an EX rank NP or even really damage one.

Basically the point of Tyrfing is that it's incredibly dangerous to be cut by it; it can potentially one-shot someone if they are even grazed by it unless they have absolutely insane durability, which has the double point of making it extremely dangerous but also putting immense psychological pressure on the opponent not to get hit by it, forcing them to fight extremely reactive without being able to take any risks at all and without being able to block the weapon too many times.

Jumpers!
Tell me about your vehicles!

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>>51100443
Oh, oh! Am I finally getting this too? Sweeeet~. I'd wondered how long it took before you got around to me. I feel so special now, like I've really achieved something.

What "rank" would a modern fire arm have in terms of Fate?

>>51100443
Okay, I know this is bait, but it's one weird enough that I'm compelled to bite despite my best interests: How is the ability to make cups of tea "omnipotence"? Is there perhaps some tea somewhere in the chain, that the ability to make as much of as you want would grant you incredible power?

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>>51100443
>Making a cup of tea = omnipotence

Wut.

>>51100413
Could you have a God-hand clone where instead of nullifying a certain "level" of attacks it does something like nullify a fraction of your total durability?

>>51100353
>>51100361
>>51100374
>>51100417
Thanks, everyone.

>>51100484
Does the Death Egg count as a vehicle?

>>51100453
Atta boy! Now you're getting into the spirit of things.

<3<

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>>51100492

>>51100495
Maybe he's thinking of the old "To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create a universe" quip?

>>51100519
Extella revealed universes are just big cups of tea. So by being able to create a cup of tea you're suddenly able to perform the act of creating entire new universes designed to your specifications.

>>51100525
If you use it for transportation, sure

>>51100545
That's not omnipotence, though. You're not omnipotent until you can modify or delete other cups of tea. You'd need the Second and Fourth Magics, too.

>>51100492
I offer you my sincerest congratulations and condolences.

>>51100492
You've come a long way, Val.
You're a shitposter-certified jump maker now, handing out omnipotence and everything!

>>51100492
I can make living things with First magic, right? How long would it take to make BB?

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>>51100484
I just use the Scrying + Teleportation Combo from Samurai Jack. An actual vehicle would just take up space.

>>51100428
>that cooking perk
Oh, that could be useful for my Jumper's cooking abilities. Will there be a Church item, like Kyoko's dad's church?

>>51100549
I use it as a factory and transportation, plus as a base, so I guess that counts?

>>51100559
But I can achieve that by pouring some of my cup into another cup, or creating a cup and throwing it hard enough at the cup I don't like that both shatter.

>>51100492
Is anon >>51100383 correct?

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>>51100545
>making a cup of tea is all that is required for godhood.

Does that mean Shirou is Nasuverse's god.

That explains so much, yet so little.

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>>51100495
>>51100519
Clearly you underestimate the power of a good cup of tea.

>>51100595
But you don't have the power to move cups of tea around, just make them. Your tea service is immobile, if you want to interact with it you'll need a straw.

>>51100570
Protip: BB herself holds power over a system that can convert calculations that would normally take an infinite length of time to occur in a finite one.
That's how she gamed the Moon Cell.

So. However long it takes for you to manipulate infinities.

>>51100595
No, your tea is still limited by its finite diviniTEA. So you need the Third Magic to ascend your tea into being higher dimensional tea.

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>>51100560
>>51100566
D'aww, thanks guys.

>>51100480
That seems fine for an EX rank NP. At the power of the effect and the sheer lethality, even to other Servants, with it being just a passive effect that costs nothing, it's definitely a NP of the highest tier. It still has a size limit on what it can affect at max, just go with your earlier stated one, but even most kaiju are still smaller then that.

>>51100494
As an NP? Depends on what firearm, what effects, what damage it causes etc etc.

>>51100524
I...don't understand, you want an NP that reduces your total durability?

>>51100570
Yes, takes a while, detailed in the notes. Depends on what you want her to be. I don't imagine a normal AI taking that much time so if you're just wanting a compu waifu that looks and acts like her, probably not too long. BB herself at full power? A very, very long time indeed.

>>51100610
Yes? I mean, it's exactly what I said earlier to you, so yes that is what I said earlier.

>>51100669
How about bitchslapping a servant into a (copy of their) real body? How long to do that

>>51100586
There certainly will be, now. Almost done with these.

Fighting Dirty [400, Discount for Rogue] - Setting your opponent off by calling their mother a cow, tripping them up, overwhelming them with unfair advantages...you’re an absolute master of foul play. You’re enough of a wily foe that you could trip up even veteran Magical Girls and make a well-coordinated team fall apart into infighting so long as you knew which buttons to push. Even better - sneak attacks or ‘dishonorable’ blows are much more effective when you use them, hurting just enough that they’ll regret thinking you play fair.

We’re Friends, Right? [400, Discount for Rogue] - Sometimes, fights happen just because of misunderstandings or some ill-timed words. Sometimes, conflict just erupts and nobody can do anything about it. But you’re going to live a very, very long time and doing it alone is the worst feeling you can suffer through. That’s why when you’ve managed to make an enemy of a group but haven’t done anything they’d consider completely unforgivable, you will find it easier to smooth yourself back into their good graces. You might even become real friends if you stay on the same wavelength long enough. A common enemy or goal helps speed up the process considerably. Just note that ‘fool me once…’ is completely in effect here: This perk gets less and less effective if you keep betraying them, until they’d rather put you in a noose than see your face again.

>>51100443
Come on, put a little effort in it

>>51100669
No, an NP that instead of nullifying a "rank" of damage, nullifies anything that doesn't do equivalent damage to 1/2 or 1/4 or 1/8 or 1/whatever of my Endurance/Durability equivalent.

>>51100669
>A very, very long time indeed.
A million? Ten Million? Billion?
Also what's your favorite NP/skill? Actually, do you have a fate build posted somewhere?

>>51100669
Regular BB and a pot of tea are still more powerful though. The true power of Potnia Theron is that none born of the Earth may be late to her tea parties.

>>51100669
>As an NP?
No I mean. . . like what kind of gun would it take to get through Herc's rank B God Hand?

Jump #239: Civilization
>Ace of Swords, reversed: May suggest new ideas or information with dangerous implications.
Gee, you think?
>Location: 10,000 BC
Looks like we're here for the long haul. Good dice roll though.
>Identity: Advisor
I can only be incarnate for a third of the time I'm here? That's... kind of lame, but I wonder if I can use this function in future jumps? Say, Alpha Centauri? Nah, probably not.
>Drawbacks: Full Table (+400), Raging Barbarians (+200)
I'm okay with having a very large number of civilizations in the world. And the barbarians mean that my people can learn to fight wars without having to actually BE in a constant state of war.
>Methodology: Warfare (1500)
Of course, we're going to have to know how to fight. A martial culture is not necessarily a bad thing.
>Methodology: Science (1400)
Then again, this is a nation that I'm influencing. Which means we are going to science the SHIT out of this world.
>Spirit of the Nation (Free, Advisor)
At least I have something to do while being disembodied-- wait, after this jump I count as being 'present' to anyone loyal to me? Holy shit, this is the best buff EVER, did anyone ever notice that before?
>Muse (1350, Advisor)
Being able to influence people and inspire them is definitely worth going for.
>View of Ages (1200, Advisor)
Being able to take the long view is, in itself, a very important thing. Being able to apply that to the future, equally important.
>Great Man Theory (900, Advisor)
Okay, this is just pure hax. I'll be sure to use this responsibly and not just give someone FTL in a society where it doesn't belong.
>Martial Culture (850, Warfare)
So... basically the society (and in the future, everyone loyal to me) gets the bearing of a professional and gain increased benefits from physical training? Heck yes.

>>51100737
Impossible. Servants can't be harmed by mundane weaponry.

>>51100743
>Authority Equals Asskicking (700, Warfare)
I don't expect to use this often, but when it DOES get used, it should be pretty awesome. I'll have to ensure that there is a clause that the leaders of any organization I'm in are permitted to lead from the front when they feel it necessary, for best results.
>Tabula Rasa (650, Science)
This actually should be a very useful ability. The laws of physics are different from world to world, and I need to not take them for granted. While I have tried to package my tech so that there's a 'generic' techtree that can be followed, this should help that along immensely, as well as not coloring what I think is and is not possible from past jumps.
>The Enlightenment (500, Science)
Not that I didn't already have an understanding of the scientific method, but having it reinforced via perks is not bad. Not to mention being able to spend a few hours to essentially make it possible for others to see it the same way. Handy.
>Tech Tree (200, Science)
'Oh, FTL travel? Well, we'll need to research fusion for sufficient power, advanced astronomy to figure out how to manipulate the fabric of space/time, space travel because you do NOT want to scale this up on a planetary surface...'
>The Oracle (Free, Advisor)
Best answering machine ever.
>The Library of Alexandria (100, Advisor)
I can either use this as a book that contains every book I have (which, I will tell you, is an AWFUL lot) or plonk it down so that my sum total knowledge is available to anyone I want to have read it. Heck yes.
>Brandenburg Gate (Free, Warfare)
More useful as a structure - giving everyone a higher degree of professionalism and pride in their work could go a very long way.
>University of Toronto (Free, Science)
So I can either teach ten thousand students at once, personally, or I can plop it down as a university campus and guarantee that everyone learns their coursework perfectly as long as they have the inclination to try. Heck yes.

>>51100737
A really, really, good gun.

>>51100758
>Jumpers
>mundane weaponry

>>51100760

>Hubble Telescope (0, Science)
Honestly this is just going into orbit so I can have a satellite view of everything all the time.

So, spending something along the lines of the next twelve thousand years guiding my people to their rightful place should be entertaining, especially because I don't actually have intentions to do much more than guide them with a light hand and intervene only when it's necessary. This is more often than I'd like of course, because it's Civ, barbarians are everywhere, and diplomacy is a bit weird.

After not very long, I decided to take a more direct route with things, by bringing in the city of Konasse and having it join as the third city. You do remember Konasse, don't you? A city of a half million dragon-human hybrids? Turns out that over time, they'd basically been neglecting their draconic attributes, considering they've been jumping with me for thousands of years now. Due to magic everyone can fly without needing wings, so they just have the Upgraded Human package that I have on tap. Konasse is basically the city that is responsible for cranking out Wonders - it gets the ones I paid points for immediately, and every time a new project becomes possible, it gets added as well. As well as all the necessary buildings that a city should have, in addition to the ones it's got from other jumps.

In 9,000 BC, I have three cities. One is 50,000 people. One is 20,000 people. Then there's Konasse, which was placed adjacent to mountains on a river with a bay, which has 500,000. So it's not a surprise that I'm munchkinning the hell out of everything with that.

>>51100758
They can be harmed by tea, though. Tea is the strongest Mystery.