Age of Sigmar General ! /aos/

>>51059993
>9993
So fuckin close

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WHERE IS WOOD AELVES BATTLETOME REEEEEEEEEE

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>>51060022
BINGO

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BUILD IT

>>51060075
Genderfluid Stormcast when

Is this game good yet?

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Someone has an idea for a better background or is it already good enough?

>>51060075
just for you anon

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>>51060436
It always has been, you just have to learn how to have fun

show me the tzeentch leaks, fuckbois

>>51061046
Best bang for the bucks army?

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Alright, I thought it would be a little hard to find a willing drawfriend but everything went better than expected

>>51061497
Tyranids
___:^)___

>>51061497
Probably nurgle daemons. Though a lot of the armies are rather cheap as long as you don't go for hordes of infantry. If you want to get into it chose an army that has a start collecting box.

>>51061660
B-but Anon, it's just a shitposting from memebingo >>51060075

Nonetheless if you have any tips for cheap and thrilling army for newbie I would be grateful. I'm like the only one player in 100 000 city so having a few lists for 1000 pts army other than "half of starter set + SC box" would be handy

>>51061497
Not my TK.

>>51061864
2 box of chaos knight and a deamon prince

>>51061864
But SC boxes really are the best bang for the buck apart from the AoS basegame and Spire of Dawn.

>>51061502
man that is so fucking cool.
can you do one for other grand alliance ?

>>51062386
>But SC boxes really are the best bang for the buck
I know Anon, but I'm just not sure if buying two same SC boxes is the best way to make 1000 pts army for every faction.
>apart from the AoS basegame and Spire of Dawn
That's why I have bought 2 SoD boxes

>>51062469
Not my work - my hand are as useful as my feet for work like this. You have to catch these cool guys >>51060867 >>51060082

>>51062386
If you actually want everything in the box that is.

>>51062501
In general, I'd say yes, two SC boxes are usually flexible enough to allow for a diverse enough arrangement.
Just as an example, SC Pestilens can be assembled with plague monks (no way around those), either a plague claw catapult or a warp lighting cannon, a screaming bell or a plague censer and a grey seer or a plague priest. That's a lot of flexibility.
Or the Flesheater Courts box. Nets you some ghouls, which you always need more of, as well as three flayers/horrors/heroes, a zombie dragon/terrorgheist with or without rider and, possibly, an unmounted ghoul king.
For undead you just combine the Malignant box and the Deathrattle box. Endless combinations.
And even in the cases where the units are sorta fixed in how you assemble them, the stuff in the box is usually something you'll want more of anyway, outside the heroes maybe.

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I'm building a clans pestilens army, and I'm not sure what to do for my battle line. I'm running a VLC, a priest or two, a plaguesmog congregation, 2 plagueclaws, and a battle line battalion.

My problem lies in choosing b/w the clawpack and the congregation of filth, and using remaining points for more censer units (dat plaguesmog stacking is nuts)

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Elves Someday (my wallet is ready)

>>51059993
The only faction that needs more waifus is Destruction, the rest all have at lease one waifu to choose from or make up your own

>>51063245
Skaven

>>51063207
but Wood Aelves are superior my friend

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>>51063207
>Follow on of GW's head model designers on twitter
>He's gushing about Steven Universe
>Admits he wants to add Jasper in one of the games if he can get away with it
>Elves in Aos Are most likely made of light and shadows with a soulstone as their real bodies
Oh lawl

Odds are Matt Ward is a SU fan too

>>51063493
>obsessing over steven tumblrverse
Oh god no, not that. Anything but that.

>>51063493
>Actually liking Steven Universe

I honestly just don't understand the appeal with that show. How does anyone like it with it's obnoxious designs and every character is a space lesbian

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>>51063493
well that's one way they could ruin their elves intellectual property overnight. I pray they are not that retarded.

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>>51063493
>Steven Universe

>>51063493
i hope he never touches wood aelves

>>51063572
Yeah unlike all the Dune rip offs

>>51063564
you get use to the designs

>>51063537
Hey know he also post about his mermaid blanket

>>51063601
Hey now Matt Ward already touched them, and you know he also watches it

>>51063493
>those beautiful landscapes
>for a show where the characters are all terribly designed and under-detailed monstrosities

The environment and character artists must be locked in a state of constant war in that studio. Good-looking minimalist flash character's aren't even impossible (for example nearly everything in MLP looks great) but SU just takes the shittiness to new heights.

I really, really hope he doesn't try to incorporate any of it into the models or art because good God it's some of the worst stuff I've ever seen.

>>51063493
I really hope that he's catching flak for that post from SOMEONE important

>>51063637
Dude one of the new BL writers just shit post on Tumblr all day and reblogs gay space marine art sometimes, New GW doesn't give a shit

>>51063671
That's unfortunate. I really hope that this faggotry doesn't taint the game

>>51063671
do you mean a_40k_author? Because I really enjoy that blog and he seems really tactful with the shit questions

And the space marines he reblogs are 90% space sharks which are basically his adopted child chapter

>>51063762
Yeah I follow him he's great
DESU I really don't think making the High Elves more like SU Gems would really effect them too much
>>51063686
base one the reccent shit its been saving the game

>>51063810
I did not know we still have auto corrects

New Blood Knights when?? They could release new bats as well

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Howd I do?

>>51063933
When they've made you buy enough blood knights and stop people converting dragon princes into blood knights.

>>51063493
Gemgender Adventure Time is a shit show but those are some nice landscapes

>>51063987
flip one of the primes on Ebay and not bad

>>51063987
its a nice start anon, now you need stardrakes

>>51064247
This. You can only field one celestant-prime per army.

>>51064258
We can't all be lawyers anon.

>>51063617
>Yeah unlike all the Dune rip offs

request: expound

>>51064264
just ally 2 stormcast armies in bigger games.

>>51064429
doesn't work like that, there's no "Allying" in AoS, It's all the same army

>>51064429
can I ally one random leader into my army to make it two armies and get two artifacts?

>>51059993
Hey nerds I need help I recently ordered an ironjaws battleforce. (plus I bought a general's handbook, which annoyingly turned out to have NO ACTUAL RULES in it wtf). I was wondering if anyone had any advice for playing/painting them, besides always taking the ironfist formation.

>>51064471
No. That guy doesn't have any clue what he's talking about and just assumes shit works like it does in 40k
>>51064540
The rules are all in the AoS App, or at the back of every game book. The Ironjawz battletome has everything in the battleforce other than the giant in it.
And my advice is to get a warchanter for them sick buffs

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>>51064471
>>51064461

not but there are fun games that aren't rules only by the books...
If you play against 2 opponents or just do a big games and have a force of combined stormhost.

source ; I already field 2 Primes in non-tournament settings a fuckload of time and nobody, N.O.B.O.D.Y cares, and no one will unless its a tournament or just autistic player that only play by the book with no imagination or creative tought.

>>51064590
This guy >>51047838
also have no clue how it works because the GHB forbid games above 2k5 points i guess ?
How sad it is to be you.

>>51064613
To be fair, Celestant-Prime doesn't seem like a named character at first glance. Most people probably don't think he is.

>>51064613
>source ; I already field 2 Primes in non-tournament settings a fuckload of time and nobody, N.O.B.O.D.Y cares, and no one will unless its a tournament or just autistic player that only play by the book with no imagination or creative tought.
You can do whatever the fuck you want in casual games if your opponent is cool with it, but it doesn't matter for jack shit as a whole. Even when playing non-competitive, players like to stick to rules because they like structure.

So in other words, your little anecdotal 'evidence' is completely pointless and moot.

>>51064613
Multiple CP would be insane. That shooting attack is ridiculous, cant even imagine getting 2 of them each turn

>>51064654
No, because that guy's still using the rules. There's nothing about allying in the GHB and it rather explicitly states that you can only have one of a specific named character per army, and since even if you mix factions like stormcasts, sylvaneth and freeguild, all in the same game, you're still only playing one army...

I've been in a coma for the last few years, when did GW put space marines into fantasy? is Empire still a thing?

>>51064719
Pretty much this. We are so used to things in 40k where it treats allies as a separate army. In AoS, it's all treated as one army, consisting of allies. This is demonstrated by battlelines and other limitations. You could have one faction bringing the battlelines, and the other faction all elite, as long as your army consists of at least the minimum number of battlelines.

>>51064661
>>51064719
>triggered grognard

>if you mix factions like stormcasts, sylvaneth and freeguild, all in the same game, you're still only playing one army...
Source ? proof ? i dont see anything addressing combined forces being a single army in the GHB.

>No, because that guy's still using the rules.
so i just need 6x5 liberator to field 10K of extremis ? as it don't broke the rules ?
You are literally worse then "I have a Quran, Islam is peace" fags

>>51064772
Where can i see the minimum of battelline for 5k+ point armies ? also phoneposting samefag much ?

>>51064782
>triggered grognard
And I'm out. It's obvious you are beyond rational discussion at this point and have to devolve to meme-calling.

>>51064782
Just read the book, man. If you still aren't seeing it, then you are just not comprehending what you are reading. Have you thought how everyone gets it but you?

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>>51064799
>also phoneposting samefag much ?

>>51063987
Sweet, do you have the starter already ?

>>51064782
You aren't even linking to the same two people there
>>51064799
I have never before seen someone call samefag on someone else whilst simultaneously only linking to one post. This, combined with the fact that you're calling them a phoneposter for no reason, has astonished me so much that I no longer want to spoonfeed you the rules of the game you're too dumb to learn

>>51064881
Nope

I didnt want the snap fit liberators or prosecutors, and I dont plan on using LCOD, so its not worth it for me

>>51064902
Which rules ?
Open play ?
Match Play ?
Open play with points ?

still waiting for the line where a combined force of 3 player in 5k point only need to field 1 requierement of battleline

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Holy crap anyone else see this and get excited?

I'm gonna have Bolt Throwers in my Dispossessed army, life is good.

>>51065006
Yep that would do it. Even at a GW official event I wouldn't see that being a problem at all. I didn't even think about that. I may have to get one myself, now.

>>51064613

What are your opponents fielding that justifies you bringing two Primes to the table?

How'd you like someone coming at you with two Skarbrands?

>no one will unless it's a tournament or just autistic player that only play by the book with no imagination and creative thought

Not quite. I personally wouldn't tolerate someone outright cheating. No doubles of named characters. It's always been that way. I'd never use two Glottkin against someone. You sound like a WAACfag.

Stormcast question.
Knight-Azyros or Knight-Venator?
I have the battleforce as well as the start collecting and starter.

>>51066230
Venator. Pretty much the stormcast eternal sniper.

>>51066230
Both are good in their own way
If you can only build 1 then take the Venator, but Azyros is a cornerstone of competitive Stormcast lists

>>51066300

What do they use that the Azyros actually works with? RAW it only functions with a couple of the formations

>>51066247
>>51066300
Thanks, I'll go with the Venator and maybe pick the Azyros up in the future when I'm done building and painting everything.

Another question, do you think grand weapons are worth taking on Prosecutors?

>>51066359
Warrior Brotherhood is the premier Stormcast list. It lets you use Lightning Strike to deep strike your entire army more than 9" away from enemies.

This list lets the Azyros LS into 9", then your entire army can use his Leader of the Way ability to LS within 5" of him (even if that puts you within 9" of an enemy) usually directly into melee with an enemy.

Stormcast suffer from being one of the slowest armies, and the Warrior Brotherhood gives them guaranteed melee combat whenever you want

>>51066426
Not really. Take Javelins or don't take the Prosecutors at all.

Sylvaneth 1000 points:

Harvestboon Wargrove - 100
Forest Folk - 60
3 units of 10 Dryads - 360
2 Branchwraiths - 200
Treelord Ancient (general)

= 1020 points

Artefact - Briarsheath or Wraithstone
Special spell - Regrowth - Ancient is the only heavy hitter in the army and with the spell bonuses of the wargrove, this would keep him alive with D6 healz. Put the Branchwraith with Regrowth on Balewind Vortex and errbuddy's happy.

How'd I do? Haven't played it yet, almost done painting. Keep as is or boost to 1500?

>>51066866
Never run Dryads in squads of 10. You need to get 12+ to get the crucial +1 save bonus.

Branchwraiths are also terrible. Their spell is nearly useless in matched play.

This is why Forest Folk is a bad choice for 1000pt.

>Ancient is the only heavy hitter in the army
Ancient is not a heavy hitter

You need to get some kurnoths with scythes in there or you won't deal any kind of damage

>Harvestboon Wargrove
If you want to run a spellcaster list then you should run Gnarlroot instead.

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Heres a cheeky 1000 points moonclan goblins list i have been playing with this week, won 4 of the 5 games i have played so far,
so rate my list for any changes and so on...

Formation: The Great moonclan - 80
Skarsnik, Warlord of Eight Peaks - 100
Moonclan grot shaman - 60
20 moonclan grots (spears and sheilds, 3 netters) - 120
20 moonclan grots (spears and sheilds, 3 netters) - 120
20 moonclan grots (Archers) - 120
3 Grot Fanatics - 90
2 Grot Fanatics - 60
Magnler Squigs - 240

>>51065382
Not him but in the fluff there is as much Prime that there are houses or whatever it is called.
I wont be surprised if in a futur Updaye its no linger a "Unique" as it is not even "named"
skarbrand is unique however.

>>51067847
fuck phoneposting. sorry for the typos

>>51067812
80% win mean do not change anything.
do you have a pic ?
what do you fear the most ?

>>51067812
I thought that the FAQ update means that Skarsnik can't be used in that battalion any more?

>>51067847
>Not him but in the fluff there is as much Prime that there are houses or whatever it is called.
No

Celestant-Prime is a unique character

His armor changes colour to reflect the stormhost he is fighting beside, but he is a SINGLE character

>>51067899
op with the grot army, can you source that, i cant find it anymore but the last time i read it it stated you can because he has the moonclan warboss keyword, i could be wrong though

>>51067877
The armies i fear the most is most sylvaneth, although i have won a close victory against them and one of my friends arrowboy kunnin rukk combo, personally, its outright BROKEN (not intending to start shit)

>>51068187
What is your next purchase for the army ?
What would you want to see in a fully fledge battletome ?
Sorry for the questions but its an army i'm interested in and i know nobody who play it.

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This fucker right here is a fucking murderous beast of hell.
I never realized that each of its 6 Attacks do 4 FREAKING damage vs chaos (more than 75% of my opponents) when equipped with a relic blade

>>51068284
yeah my jaw dropped in the stream when they said that, especially considering all the rerolls this guy gets.
In fact i bought 2 after the stream.... i'm weak

>>51068265
>What is your next purchase for the army ?
I have ordered some rockgut troggoths for a 1500 point list, a second mangler squig and a box of grots so i can have a unit of 40 spear and sheild and 2 units of 20 bows

>What would you want to see in a fully fledge battletome ?
Personally, in a battletome i would love to see more formations, and some new alliance traits and items would be nice. To be really honest, out of all the sigmar armies i have played, moonclan is the best army that hasn't got a battletome yet, so thats that...

in summary, give the moonclan units a read, they have really good combos (especially with the great moonclan), even the mangler squig is one of the hardest hitting monsters in the game, with that considering I hope you come to a decision soon

>>51068284
>>51068344
i still think the grimwrath beserker is better...

Hey guys, I am a total newfag to the AoS setting and I have a question.

Are Stormcast Eternals golems? That is are golden statues animated by sigmar's power and the hero's soul that lies within? Or are they given a body of flesh and blood and just wear golden armor? Or they are a grotesque fusion of metal and flesh, as it is said that "lightning flows in their veins". They can be reforged too which would imply that they are golems but since we are talking godly magics here that doesn't mean flesh cannot be reforged like metal.

I can't find any better sources that go into it more.

>>51068387
Against chaos, no, against everything else, obviously yes

>>51068391
they are spirits of dead heroes encased in armour forged by sigmar with help of the dwarves, and thats pretty much it

>>51068379
thanks you for this.
I only have 2 colossal squig i bought when they first came out to paint and that's all.
Im probably gong to buy a full army in early February

>>51068403
Except that they're not. They're flesh and blood humans that have died, got rezzed by sigmar, and trained to be super soldiers against chaos. Sometimes multiple times. There is a model that exhibits this. It's only available from warhammer world in nottingham, and is in blackface in the official paintjob but...

>>51068391
They are made from metal in the same sense that other creation myths have humans made out of clay, sand, dust or a billion other things; i.e. they are still made of flesh and blood. It's just that that body is just a little bit divine.
As long as Sigmar still has the raw materials for the reforging they cannot be killed permanently unless under extremely convoluted circumstances, but they are otherwise still very human, albeit at the pinacle of what humnaity could be.
And since every single stormcast was a great hero before his selection, you get a whole army of larger-than-life champions of good.

>>51066426
The Knight azyros/venator is ridiculously easy to magnetize to use both. Dont waste your money buying 2

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>>51068391
They're flesh and blood humans but they are losing a part of their humanity every time they are reforged

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>>51068124
It's because the battallion no longer uses keywords, but the definitive unit, unless the name is in bold.

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>>51068124
Also the battallion won't work for matched play anymore because the battallion names are the old night goblin warscrolls, not the newer moonclan.

How do you guys feel on playing the old dragon ogres (metal) as equipped with what I want? I'd want to go glaives for the -1 rend, but all I have are the greataxes. You think anyone will get butthurt?

>>51069987
Just tell them beforehand.

If they get buttmad about it, then that's a sign that you probably shouldn't be playing with them.

Or you could just placate them and say they have the axes anyway, but where's the fun in that?

>>51070083
Yeah, I thought so. It's for a tourny where I have to write up the list beforehand, so I was just trying to be on the safe side. -1 rend will generally do better than 2 dmg, right?

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Well, I finally got around to playing a game of AoS. Being a 40k player since 2nd Ed I've always wanted to try out fantasy but never got around to it/ my army taste changed for fantasy often enough that i could never settle on one i wanted to invest in. I was on the verge of getting into 8th, had a few games of it at my local club and settled on VC then the End Times came around and it shook things up and i was mostly excited and then found out it was going to end in a game/rules reset so i decided to wait.

New AoS rules came out and it looked okay but no points cost really threw me and i just gave up on the idea. My local club and game store had a dying Fantasy base anyway and it seemed that AoS didn't help it at all so i just focused on my 40k. Generals Book was released, saw games being played at my LGS and club so i finally had a game around at a mates place, Ironjaws vs Sylvaneth (both belonging to my friend who spends a royal dickton on GW stuff)

I played Trees since i liked the look of them and we actually really enjoyed it. It's much much simpler than 40k, but i've found 40k to be super bloated of late. It became apparent pretty fast that board positioning in this game is a HUGE deal, which is really appealing to me.

>TDLR; I finally played some AoS and loved it. I've since invested in a Sylvaneth army that is currently on it's way to me. Looking forward to building and painting me some trees. I'm also considering Orks and Chaos too. But those are a while down the road.

>Pic related is my wallet.

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Could someone explain to retarded newbie why can I use a Plague Furnace in Skaven Alliegance army but no Screaming Bell?

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>>51070518
Enjoy man. Sylvaneth are definitely one of the coolest factions at the moment.

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>>51070538
You can? It's in the Skaven warscroll with the keyword Skaven. 260pts

>>51070558
I really like the style of them, the tree fuckery, the crazy movement and the glass cannony feel of them. Plus sexy as fuck miniatures.

>>51065006
Iron Hill dwarves are really good looking in general, I'm going to get a few to use as warrior proxies. Maybe a Dain for my Warden King, too.

>>51070590
B-but there is no option in BattleScribe

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I see anon is looking for memetic images

posting a few made months ago

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>>51070640

>>51070624
>BattleScribe

Maybe I'm just old but i prefer writing lists down myself, looking over the books and options. Battlescribe has bugs and you've found one. It has a the Skaven keyword it can be used in a Skaven Allegiance. Unless the Allegiance is specifically called something else that isn't in the keyword list on the Ball. But i doubt it.

>>51070640
What's GWs reasoning for not releasing a Sigmar mini? Why did they write him as a God-King instead of a Warrior God? It's a wargame afterall and the titular hero not being playable is kinda strange if you ask me.

>>51070624
>>51070694
Battlescribe kinda sucks for AoS.

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>>51070646
I could end up making more

>>51060102
this is strange

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>>51070640
Is that artwork forreal? Like fucking hell dude, that artwork belongs in 40k or another scifi setting, it has no place in a medieval fantasy setting...fucking planets in the sky and shit, oh my god...this is exactly what's wrong with age of shitmar
Post more like it until my eyes bleed

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>>51070707
Pretty sure i just implied that m8yo

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>>51070725
did you miss the memo?
we space fantasy nao

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>>51070725
>medieval fantasy setting
there's nothing medieval in this setting

the skeletons too are barely medieval

>>51070725
AoS cosmology is heavily influenced by Norse Mythology. It's not space exactly, its the Celestial Realm. It's not like you can hop in your spaceship and FTL to the Realm of Metal.

If you're familiar with D&D's Planescape cosmology it's like that as well, just organized around the Lores of Magic.

>>51070784
>>51070748
>>51070737
Well my eyes aren't bleeding, but I'm crying
Fucking garbage....when I played fantasy back in the day, all the things that appealed to me about it are now dead.

Bad End.

>>51070694
>Maybe I'm just old but i prefer writing lists down myself, looking over the books and options
It's understandable. I'm newbie so for now I'm trying to support myself with some tools sometimes.
>It has a the Skaven keyword it can be used in a Skaven Allegiance
What about battlelines? I mean - I can pick clanrats just for SKAVEN but no Plague Monks. Both have skaven and chaos keywords. Also bug or a rule I'm not aware of?

>>51070784
>It's not like you can hop in your spaceship and FTL to the Realm of Metal.

Lizardmen.
Spume.
Spess Dragon.

The Realms are places in space and you can fly to them if you have the means.

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>>51070804
>Bad End.
I feel you, anon.

the only thing I can say to you is that a few things survived while others can be worked back into the old world with ease.

you'll have to look away from the sigmarines though, very often.

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>>51070821
You can take Plague Monks for SKAVEN too but they are only Battleline units if you have them in a PESTILENS Allegiance (a whole army made up of the Pestilens clan)

Basically from what i can tell of a quick skim of the Skaven warscroll is everything has the SKAVEN keyword so can all be in a Skaven Allegiance, but some rules only apply if certain clans are chosen to make the army out of, much like in the case of Plague Monks. You can take them in a Skaven force and still get the bonuses therein but if you wanted them as a battleline unit your whole force would have to be made up of things with the keyword PESTILENS.

I hope that makes sense.

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>>51071089
Hur wrong picture.

>>51067555
>Branchwraiths are also terrible. Their spell is nearly useless in matched play.
They get access to the Sylvaneth lore though along with Mystic Shield and Arcane Bolt mind you.

That being said, I can't see why he needs two.

>>51070835
It's basically Spelljammer.

>>51070835

I don't think so. The 3 you listed most likely use magic and shit like the Bifröst in Norse mythology.

I mean they probably ARE all in the material space together but i feel they are so far apart that even the basic travel the lizardmen have would not get them their so they use gates and magics or something. I don't know for sure though since i've not REALLY looked into how all the realms thingy works.

>>51071111
Yeah, but everything they do a Branchwych does better. In matched play there is absolutely no reason to take a branchwraith over a branchwych unless you are forced by a battalion.

>>51067555
>Never run Dryads in squads of 10. You need to get 12+ to get the crucial +1 save bonus.
>Paying the extra 100pts for just 2 models and robbing yourself of another 8

Moron. Either run them in 10,20,30 never anything in between because you're just wasting points.

>>51071127
You can fly between them in ships.
Azyr is a place that can be seen in the skies of the other realms.

>>51071166
Oh well nevermind then. That's fucking stupid. They steal so much from Norse Mythology but they don't take something like the Bifröst?

>>51071166
>You can fly between them in ships.
>Azyr is a place that can be seen in the skies of the other realms.

I'd say the statement two does not necessarily follow as a consequence from statement one. The Realms are not like out reality nor does it follow our rules.

>>51071089
Skaven don't have their own set of faction bonuses yet, do they? Or have I managed to miss it somehow?

>>51071243
Don't be obtuse.
Sigmar arrived at the Realms after flying through space.
Slann arrived at the Realms after flying through space.
Space Dragons fly through space and visit different realms.
Realms can be seen from other Realms

The Realms are places in space that you can fly too.

>>51071089
Oh, so If I buy a SC pestilens box for lightning cannon and screaming bell I can still use monks but not as battleline? Good to know, I was worried that they would be useless and sell them

>>51071282
Uh, Anon...
>So the setting of Age of Sigmar is nine infinitely large realms (eight of which are "mortal") each of which is attuned to one of the lores of magic from oldhammer (and then Chaos). While they are connected by magic and portals and whathaveyou, geographically they are completely distinct and separate. So we have a collection of 9 alternate realities similar to the D&D Feywild and Shadowfell, where they are elementally attuned, but similar to eachother, but in this case there is no "prime material plane". But wait, instead of each plane being a planet or something, it's actually a whole infinite expanse with its own moons, planets, space, and so forth.

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>>51071333
Indeed you can still use them. But yes, just not as a battleline unit.

>>51071280
Nah they don't I was just answering the anons question by explaining the Allegiance thing. If he wanted to build a SKAVEN Allegiance army when and if they get a battletome then he has to use units with that keyword and such.

But no, as far as i know aswell, they don't have any keyword bonuses yet. Only some of the clans do and even then it's very minimal like the battleline thing.

Just started playing, what should I give my plague monks? Seems like the staff + blade is a good idea, particularly because with buffs they can dish 4 attacks per model.

>>51071406
I don't care about your 1d4chan shit, son.
I'm talking fluff from the actual books.

Assuming it hasn't already been leaked, want do people want to know?

>>51071451
Show us fluff references then faggot.

>>51071460
What do you have to tell?

>>51071482
I must have missed the pic, tired i suppose
The new White Dwarf, but apparently it's been leaked in 40k/gen/ as a pdf

>>51071482
>Show us fluff references then faggot.

You need fluff references for the basic premise?
You don't remember how Sigmar went flying through space before Dracothian picked him up and brought him to the Realms?

>>51071498
I know Siggy was floating in space but just because dragon boy came across him and then they went off to the Realms doesn't mean they are all on the same plane and reachable to any old cunt who can jump really high. Magic and bullshit is in very large supply even in AoS I pretty much took the traveling as a metaphor for a magical jump to the realms.

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>>51070558
I love Alarielle!

>>51071533
You can see Azyr in the sky from the other Realms.
The Realms are collections of objects in space, they are reachable by anyone who can fly through space.

>>51071552
Do you have some quote for that? Because the major point of the setting is that Sigmar closed the gates of Azyr to stop Chaos from entering, and the biggest battle until now was for the control of the crossway of portals between the realms.

All of which doesn't make sense is all you need to travel from realm to realm is a big catapult.

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>>51070558
Now THAT is a womanly figure

>>51065006
>>51065073
Aren't LOTR miniatures banned from Warhammer events?

>>51071584
You may not have noticed, but the vast majority of Chaos forces don't have space ships.
Realmgates make travel easy for them.
But space farers do not them to travel to other Realms as demonstrated by Seraphon.

>>51059993

Tried to read Alarielle's wiki entry, eyes started bleeding at the End Times section, gave up.

Why does she have such big thighs? Why does she not wear shoes? Why does she have TREE WINGS? Why is she always riding a giant beetle?

>>51071636
>Goddess
>Goddess
>Goddess
>Goddess
There's the answer

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>>51071552
>You can see Azyr in the sky from the other Realms.

>>51071623
The vast majority of chaos forces are also formed by flying things that never tire. Distance is not a problem, considering that you only need Gutrok to arrive on Azyr to open a portal for all other chaos daemons to arrive.

Face it. While there are things that can travel between realms they do it by magic, not by simply travelling straight in the air.

>>51071636
>Why does she have such big thighs?

Woman.

>Why does she not wear shoes? Why does she have TREE WINGS?

Nature goddess.

>Why is she always riding a giant beetle?

She's not, but it's a good thing to have around in battle.

>>51071683
This

>>51071552
>You can see Azyr in the sky from the other Realms.

And you can see Sigil from any point in the Outlands. Still the city it's on the top of a literally infinitely tall spire and the only way to reach her is by portal or planar magics.

>>51071636
>Why does she have such big thighs?
She's the goddess of LIFE. Why do you think?

>>51071686
>>51071677

Is there any GOOD art of her? Everything seems to just be her as a tiny figure riding the beetle, based on the mini.

>>51071636
>Why
Money

>>51071683
>The vast majority of chaos forces are also formed by flying things that never tire.

That's not true. That's not true at all.

> considering that you only need Gutrok to arrive on Azyr to open a portal for all other chaos daemons to arrive.

A portal does not mean instant infinite reinforcement.

>While there are things that can travel between realms they do it by magic

Sure, but they could not use magic as well.
The realms exist in space.
If you can travel through space you can travel to other Realms.

>>51071717
I don't care what D&D says about it's cosmology. In AoS you can fly to the Realms through space. As Sigmar has shown.
As the Seraphon have shown. As Dracothian has shown. As Gutrot Spume has shown.

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>>51071735
What exactly are you looking for?

Reminder that Alarielle is canonically a fusion between Isha (aka Ariel), her daughters through the ages and the high elf Everqueen Alarielle. It must b pretty fucked up inside her head.

>>51071760
Christ you are literally retarded. You know that Gutrok don't fly throught space to move between the realms but literally sails there? And you know that skaven can literally burrow from a realm to the other? And the Sylvaneth can just walk from a forest in the realm of fire to one in the realm of metal?

What do you think? That the eight realms are eight different planets in space while at the same time they share a single forest, a single underground and a single sea?

>>51071760
>As the Seraphon have shown
They are using magic

>>51071816
You can have portals through the Realms, I've not disputed that, but you can also fly between them you dumb nigger.

One forest being magically connected to another does not mean that those forests cannot be in Realms in space.

>>51071850
I've only ever seen the realms been referred to as "planes of existence" in the books. Never as planets. And i've also never seen any reference to them being visible to one another.

Sounds like you're talking out of your ass.

>>51071779

I want to fuck that goddess

>>51071847
Yes, they do you magic, but magic can allow you to fly through space as they did in their space ships.

>>51071863
>I've only ever seen the realms been referred to as "planes of existence" in the books. Never as planets.

That's because they're not planets, they are collections of objects.

>And i've also never seen any reference to them being visible to one another.

We've been told that Azyr can be seen from the sky of the Realms.

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>>51070725
welcome to high fantasy you faggot

>>51071111
He needs 2 for the Wargrove

Like this anon said >>51071140 Wyches are just better than Wraiths

>>51071154
I said "12+". Note the +. I never implied you should run undersized squads

>>51071880
>We've been told that Azyr can be seen from the sky of the Realms.

Where? Show me Where you have read this.

>>51071166
>>51071282

False.

There are multiple planets in each realm, but the only way to reach other Realms are to take the Realmgates or use powerful magic.

Slann are demigods powerful enough to reach other realms with their magic.

Sigmar is a god, he can easily go to any realm he wants.

Dracothion is an Old One, which is like god+. He is probably present in all realms at once or something

>>51071850
>you can also fly between them

Well, guess what, you can't unless you use magic to do it. Because while the Slann can fly from a realm to another the same way a Sylvaneth can walk from a realm to another someone not using their magic can't simply enter a forest or fly up and expect to reach another plane. Also it's been already said multiple times that powerful beings can just close the planar bounduaries of the planes to stop anybody from reaching them, as Sigmar did with Azyr.


>>51071880
>We've been told that Azyr can be seen from the sky of the Realms.

We've been told by you, who refuse to show any source for that.

>>51071880
>That's because they're not planets, they are collections of objects.


I don't think you understand what "plane of existence" means m8. It certainly doesn't mean "a bunch of stuff floating in space that can see another bunch of stuff"

>>51071952
Pantheon also confirm that the Realms are basically infinite as "the end of realms" is a methaphisical place from where the realms are constantly expanding, but in a way that they don't have a physical limit.

>If you seen Thor 2, you should know how Realms work
It's not fucking hard anons

>>51071937
Seraphon battletome for one.


>>51071946
>the only way to reach other Realms are to take the Realmgates or use powerful magic.

Or through space.

>>51071951
>Well, guess what, you can't unless you use magic to do it.

But you can so long as you fly through space.

>>51071952
The Realms are a bunch of stuff floating through space. You can see others through space.

>>51071989
Don't try and weasel out of the fact that the Realms are specifically called finite.

Less autism more Alarielle

>>51072012
>Seraphon battletome for one.
Seraphon are either:
1. Slann, which are mortal beings with magic so powerful they can do whatever the fuck they want
2. Daemons summoned into existence through the will of the Slann, which are not bound by mortal limitations

No you can't fly from one realm to the other. You need to use some kind of magic or skaven-style tunnel through reality.

Post some proof or stop posting

>>51072012
>Seraphon battletome for one.

Screencap faggot. I can't be fucked sifting through that book.

>>51072047
Seraphon battletome says you can see Azyr in the sky of the other Realms.
Therefore it exists in a position in space relative to the other Mortal Realms.

The Seraphon reached the Mortal Realms after flying through space in their spaceships.

>>51072052
No.
Look it up yourself like I just did.
It's under the Stars Align in the time line section.

>Azyr blazes bright in the night sky across the realms

>>51072098
>Azyr blazes bright in the night sky across the realms

This could mean literally anything

This is what high fantasy is all about

>>51072098
Again, see

>>51071678

>>51072125
>I-it doesn't count!

Pathetic.

>>51072151
Oh shit son, greentext AND stuttering!?

You win!!

If you don't understand high fantasy then you should stop shitting up this thread

>>51072098
The single bit of 'proof' you have can be interpreted at a metaphor of the hope of the realms have in Azyr.

Compared to the countless times they are referred to as 'planes of existence' and each realm being 'limitless'

>>51072012
>Don't try and weasel out of the fact that the Realms are specifically called finite.

No-where in your one metaphorical line does it say the realms are finite. Care to show us where it says this? If we are talking 'specifically' after all.

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>>51072098
>t. Woad Lord of the Forest of Claws

>>51072163
>IT STILL DOESN'T COUNT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

Just accept that you're wrong. It says exactly what I have said.
Azyr can be seen from the other Realms. The Realms exist in space.

>>51072172
Realms are never said to be infinite. At best described as near infinite, which as we all know means not infinite.

>>51071779
those leg branches look stupid

>>51072176
We have already explained to you that the Seraphon are exempt from the normal rules. They might sail ships between realms with literal space ships or they could just be "sailing" on the winds of magic. They are frog wizards older than time, rivaling Nagash and Tzeentch in magic, they can do whatever the fuck they want.

Normal people can't travel freely between the realms.

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>>51072005
>If you seen Thor 2
>It's not fucking hard anons
But wathcing this shit was hard, Anon. It was a Green Lantern shit-tier

>>51072224

Those legs tho

>>51072242
Oh yeah the film was shite, but it gave a pretty good way, and surprising AoS accurate too, to show how realm jumping can work

>>51072226
There is space between the mortal realms.
If you have something, say a ship, that can travel through that space then you can travel to other realms.

>>51072224
>Calling skin cancer stupid
Fuck you, you heartless shit

>>51072219
>Realms are never said to be infinite. At best described as near infinite, which as we all know means not infinite.

Realm's End, as seen in Pantheon, the nearest thing that exist to a limit of the planes, is a place that consist in a gigantic maelstrom of energies from which places, stories and event constantly are generated in small worldlets that then disapper from there and reappear inside the realms, filling them little by little.

Realms are not infinite as they don't contain infinite things (while they are constantly increasing), but they are boundless as they don't have physical limit.

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>>51072224
They seem to come and go. She could probably shave them for you if she liked you enough.

>>51072259
>There is space between the mortal realms.
Yes
>If you have something, say a ship, that can travel through that space then you can travel to other realms.
Post one example of anyone besides ancient frog wizards doing this

>>51072219
>Age of Sigmar has gods waging wars on other planes of existence against one another, has literal history of warp rifts leading to other dimensions, has gods of death, chaos, life and creation, it has being older than time itself that have claimed to see the known material world being reset over and over.

>Nah guys, 'Azyr blazes bright in the night sky across the realms' is a literal meaning of a star in the night sky guys.

Are you actually this retarded to think it's literal?

>>51072303

No shoes though. Never shoes.

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>>51072259
Chaos was locked out of Azyr for HUNDREDS of years. The greatest tzeentch wizards couldnt make portals to penetrate the veil, and you are saying that somebody could have just built a boat and sailed there?

You are real dumb

>>51069293
>>51069069
>>51068403
>>51068859
Thank you for the info guys!

>>51072289
They are not planes, they are places in space.
Even the opening confirms this.
>Strange, new world appeared in the firmament

That's firmament, not parallel dimensions or whatever bullshit you think.

>>51072351
If they built space ships they could have. But building a space ship is not easy for barbarians.

>>51072312
Gutrot Spume can sail the void.

>>51072318
>IT DOESN'T COUNT

I'm the one with the evidence, all you have is your shitty desire.

>>51071333
Don't forget monks have little rats on their sprue. 2 rat swarms or a little mob of giant rats

>>51072351
Even more funny if you consider that basically every tzeentch wizard has access to flying disks. A Lord of change probably spent centuries trying to open a portal while all he had to do was to fly up.

>If they built space ships they could have. But building a space ship is not easy for barbarians.

As you said it yourself, Gutrok Spume can do it in a wooden boat.

>>51072369
>But building a space ship is not easy for barbarians
>Tzeentch wizards
>>>>>>>barbarians
Oh.

>>51072400
meant for>>51072369

>>51072400
>all he had to do was to fly up.

Not just up, there is space inbetween. A bat cannot simply fly to Mars.

>As you said it yourself, Gutrok Spume can do it in a wooden boat.

What's your point?
Just because Spume has a boat that can do it doesn't mean everyone can get one easily.
Does everyone get an Eye of Sheerian now too?

>>51072406
Yes. They do not have advanced technology.

>>51072369
>I'll take what are metaphors for 15!

I'll bet you think the bible is all literal too.

>>51072369
You are like one of my players in a Mage campaign that argued that Werewolves don't have human souls beacuse in a single line in their book it said that "werewolves have the soul of a predator".

It's called autism dude.

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>>51072439
It's hilarious to think that Archaon could have attacked Azyr all this time but didn't because he refused to ask Gutrok for a lift

>>51072453
I see, so only the parts that disagree with you are metaphors.

>>51072462
Why am I autistic for accepting the evidence while you continue to be delusional.

>>51072471
Still no proofs.

>>51072477
It's Gutrot.

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>>51072477
>Bro, give us a dink up to Azyr?
no
>But bro it's right there! It's that 2nd star to the right!
no
>Why not bro?
because it's a metaphor.
>Woteva then.

>>51072518
What is your problem with space?

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>>51072494
>I see, so only the parts that disagree with you are metaphors.

I'm fine with them, i can stop them and understand them just fine. I feel like you're having a spot of trouble though.

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>>51072553
Spot not stop. Hur it's late.

>>51072553
I'm reading it fine, meanwhile your some angry autist who can't accept that space exists for some reason.

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>>51072597
You're*

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>>51072635

>>51072635
Thanks, do you have anymore funny gifs?

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>>51072392
Thank you, good to know - I didn't notice that on GW site. If I may ask you a question or two
- Warscroll from GW site states that there is no models limit for this unit but GHB sets up max unit size as 8. Does it mean that rat swarm unit can not have more than 8 units during set up or it is a maximum limit for good?
- GHB states that rat swarm is a Moulder unit while warscroll while pic related has only CHAOS and RAT SWARMS keyword. Should I treat it as SKAVEN, MOULDER, CHAOS, RAT SWARMS?

>>51072597
You're the angry nutter that corrected someone's spelling of Gutrot. It's not our fault that you read it so literally. There are too many "why didn't they just go there then" examples for it all the realms to exist in the same plane. Chaos have the ability to travel without the gates and generally they work together so it's retarded to think they didn't just go there.

If you want to see it as literal then whatever floats your goat but to me and to 99% of other people it's a metaphor. Personally i see your one line as what i said before, the other realms look to Sigmar in hope, they see his light blazing in the sky, the realms are filled with simpletons and much like earth of old people looked up at the stars and saw hope in gods light. To me that's what that line means, the lizards looked at the realms and saw that Sigmars light was inspiring those to fight. And the stars are finally aligning for the skinks to step into the fight.

>>51071613
Non-GW miniatures are banned from warhammer events, not LotR minis.

>>51072651
Loads. I have to wait for another spelling error though.

>>51072791
>You're the angry nutter that corrected someone's spelling of Gutrot.

He had said Gutrok several times, so actually I was only clarifying that his name was Gutrot.

>There are too many "why didn't they just go there then" examples for it all the realms to exist in the same plane.

Not really if you can accept that space faring vessels are rare.

>Chaos have the ability to travel without the gates and generally they work together so it's retarded to think they didn't just go there.

The Skaven can gnaw through space and go anywhere, but Chaos doesn't mass invade through gnawholes either.
Chaos does not work well together.

>If you want to see it as literal then whatever floats your goat but to me and to 99% of other people it's a metaphor.

Nope. It's no more metaphor than anything else. Again the opening text also says that the Realms formed in the firmament, not alternate planes or dimensions.
The Realms are places in space.

>>51072818
Peenuts.

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FUCK SYLVANETH WHERE ARE MY WOOD AELVES REEEEE

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>See shitshow of a thread

LOOK EVERYONE, TREES!

I toned down the plastic-y look I was getting from the one in the middle. I need to think of a few ways to make the rest of the Dryads look subtly different, otherwise this may be one boring looking unit

>>51072914
Just adding in my 2 cents.

Firmament isn't space.

>>51072998
Maybe try a light drybrush over them anon? It's bring out raised areas on a more tiny scale and give them a sense of roughness instead of the super smooth bark they have now. Other than that they look ace. That owl is fantastic.

>>51072998
THIN YOUR P-
Oh, they actually look great - good job Anon
> I need to think of a few ways to make the rest of the Dryads look subtly different
Maybe different colour for eyes and leaves? How many models you have?

>>51072998
>I need to think of a few ways to make the rest of the Dryads look subtly different
glue some moss onto the figures, try different colors of wood, make them look fresh or super old

>>51073016
Yes, it's the sky, so it is a primitive conception of space.

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>>51073053
I was going for an "inner bark" look, which is actually normally fairly smooth. To me the models always looked like the skirt was outer bark, while the rest of the body was the normally covered interior.

I think another light drybrush will help take away the shine the wash seems have given them at the least, so it will certainly be worth a try.

I started using Duncans tutorial, but I think his Drybrush ruined them, which is why I was hesitant to drybrush to much.

Also thank you. The Owl is pretty much the entire reason I decided to paint them instead of the Dwarfs I should be doing

>>51073016
>>51073104
So you allow a primitive metaphorical term for one thing and not the other?

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>Realm of Light
>Basically Deserts and Oasis
>High Elves are Egyptians
>Fighting against Arabian themed Tomb Kings
Would you buy? Or "reeee not my TKs"

>>51073117
Oh if you were going for a barkless wood then don't drybrush them! Thay look great for the idea you have. If you're worried about the shine maybe give the whole model a spray with matt varnish, it's certainly dull or completely remove the shine.

>>51073136
No. We know there is space there, so it is not the firmament as the ancients understood it.
In modern English firmament means the sky or space in much the same way the heavens do.

>>51073081
There are 20 in that one unit. When I eventually do another unit, I intend on theming them after a different kind of tree.

>>51073103
The stuff on the base was actually originally meant to be used to fill in a gap in an old metal Treeman I have, but it ended up looking a bit silly, so I don't know if gluing flock to the actual models ends up looking that great.
Maybe I could experiment with small amounts of texture paint though.

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>>51072679
S-selfbump. It might get lost in this planetary shitstorm

>>51073219
Since when does GW use terms in the modern sense when writing fantasy fluff?

>>51073222
>When I eventually do another unit, I intend on theming them after a different kind of tree
I would go with different eye and leaves colours for every 10 dryads (the smallest possible unit)

>>51073247
All the time.

>>51072679
The GHB limits are absolute. So it can never have more than 8 models in matched play.

That warscroll is probably old, try to look

>>51073247
The Unit size is not how many units you can take it's how many models in a min or max unit. So for Rat Swarms a min unit size is 2 models and a max size is 8 models costing 80pts per 2 models.

You can have as many actual units as you like though. as long as you pay the points for them. In the warscroll on the GW site it does say you can have as many rats are you want but that scroll is pre GHB so it's writing as if you can take whatever you want for you army. But if that's how you wanna play (without pts i mean) then go nuts with the swarms amigo

As far as the Keywords are concerned I'd go by the warscroll for that unit, the GHB just puts them in the moulder group because the actual groupings of a lot of the armies without battltomes are a mess. I highly doubt you'd find a player that would get shitty about you applying the SKAVEN keyword to them. At the very least they share the CHAOS keyword.

At the moment, since it's Skaven you don't have to worry much about keywords since SKAVEN doesn't actually come with any bonuses. So I'd personally treat the swarms as though they have the keyword SKAVEN.

>>51073229
>>51073405
Sorry that was meant for you. This realm talk is getting in the fucking way.

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>First 10 man squad down
>Entire army to go
A-At least 2 models in my list take up over 500 points together

>>51073156
I would cum endlessly if they did that.

>>51073156
Goddammit that would be awesome

>>51070804
the play with the old rulesbook fuckwit

>>51070702
>It's a wargame afterall and the titular hero not being playable is kinda strange if you ask me.

>Implying you can plays as the Emperor in 40k
>Or Khorne
>Or Gork
>etc

Having playable gods is stupid. if nothing else it would just become like 30k Primarchs where they would need to release a god model for each faction and it becomes an arm's race and fuck that. We already have Archaeon, Gordrakk and the other big bads

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>>51073405
Doh, I wish my english was slightly better. I know the basics of plaing with points but endless tide abillity confuses me.

So let's say I want to play a pitched battle with my 1000/1000 pts army including a single unit of rat swarm (8 models - 320 pts). It's my hero phase, so
1) I can't use Endless Tide abillity because my unit is full (8 max)
2) I can't use Endless Tide abillity because I have no more free points (1000/1000) to pay for extra swarm model above these basic 8 from unit
?

>>51073700
playing*
As I said - engrish hard lunguage est

>>51072979
Hopefully in the trash were they belong until i got a dark elf battletome

>>51071946
Forgot Skaven and their tunnels

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Are there any sigmar-related YT channels worth watching/following? Right now I'm watching Spikey Bits videos but something more would be nice

>>51074056
Spikey Bitz is fucking shit. Watching paint dry is preferrable.

Miniwargaming do videos regularly, but they are hit and miss depending on whos playing in the games.

You know about the podcast community? Thats where most of the stuff happens now, heelanhammer, facehammer, bad dice are all good.

>>51073700
first paragraph of the third column on page 108 of the GHB explicitly states adding models to units doesn't cost. You just can't go above its original starting value if im reading it right..

They are battleline for moulder but dont have their keywords for synergy.. Wish you could add plague and they gain poison and pest keyword

>>51074180
Even Frontline are good
At least when Reece or Franky are around

>>51074056
I listen to the Ninth Realm when i'm hobbying

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>>51074286
Guess its been updated via webstore rules

>>51074419
Where can I find it? I triend their android app and skaven compendium - old warscroll everywhere

>>51074286
>original starting value
You can't go above the maximum unit size. e.g. 8 for rat swarms.

>>51074419
>>51074666
Ok, I found it - my bad

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This thread belongs to the sons of Hashut

>>51074666
If your app shows old warscrolls you have to delete the warscroll and re-download it to get the newest.

>>51060453
It's good

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>>51075283
I have re-instaled app and still showing the old one. Well, fuck this - I wanted to make and print custom cards anyway

GUO Command Trait or Lord of Plague one?
Shame the GUO isn't all NURGLE units gets +1 attack on 7"+ charge

Never played anything Warhammer but have played Malifaux. Really enjoying the AoS novels.

For a complete n00b what's the best SC box out of the following?

Stormcasts
Sylvaneth
Korner
Nurgle
Ironjawz

>>51075951
Khorne, obviously.

>>51075951
Play what you think it cool
Medicore army you enjoy >>> OP army you don't

>>51075951

>Nurgle
>Nurgle
The only answer

>>51075951
nurgle is the best Use for bucks

>>51060453
needs to just be the regular angry sigmarite face

>>51076060
>>51076066
>Slow moving melee "The army"
>For a new player
Even as a Nurgle + Mortals player i'd say unless you like Nurgle go play a different army like Khorne

Nurgle is a trap for newbies

>>51075951
If you are thinking about expanding your army you should buy a starter set and then a SC box for your half. No matter which faction will you choose, half Starter Set + SC gives you a 1000pts army

>>51075971
>>51076060
>>51076066
>>51076096

I like the way all of these look. That's why I listed them.

Nurgle looks cool but I fear, and apparently rightly slow, they're an army for more experienced players.

Ironjawz and Stormcasts seem probably the easiest to pick up, yeah?

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>>51076237
Ok anon, how do you like to play
>Hard n Fast
>Hordes, but weak
>vice versa?

Nurgle is pretty easy to paint
>White Prime, Death World forest base, Camoshade wash, Nurgling Green dry brush

>>51076223

Assuming I play Stormcasts or Khorne though, yeah?

>>51063493

Um, I like SU quite a lot.

But I don't see any visual or thematic overlap between two. WTH.

>>51076282
Yup. Try this lists for good and cheap 1k pts armies
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wl3zJzmXcXrievqvnoqtlOMHwG3-SCtRXMWfKFQ2ZVw/edit#gid=0

>>51076270

Oh. Hold up then. If that's all it takes to paint I'm in. The painting is intimidating to me. I was gonna follow those videos on teir YouTube to the T.

>>51076270
Oh you fucker. You are posting these damn Nurgles like for 8 last threads. I give you 24h to finish this shit and Nurglings I believe in you, Anon

>>51076237
heh nurgle is the most noob friendly army. They heal passively trough abilities/battalions, they are tough and they don't have to worry about having too many heroes alive/in range.

Just look at the nurgle list that went 9-0 by moving forward at a big tournament last month (relayed here in basically every thread)

GUO
GUO
Herald

20 Plaguebearers
20 Plaguebearers
10 Plaguebearers

6Drones
6Drones
tallyband of nurgle

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>>51076344
See how they play first then go in, but yeah my scheme is pretty "simple"

>>51076361
But i finished the squad yesterday anon, sorry for the bad camera tho
Th-thanks :3

>>51076374
So you have to buy 4 SC boxes, sell extra stuff and buy two extra big models and 10 Plaguebearers. Ouch
being poorfag is suffering

>>51076374
That is disgusting. I don't even want to think about playing that.

>>51076374
Shame it looks so boring, despite it's strength
Where's the variety

>>51076237
like this guy >>51076374 said its very noob friendly (the plaguebearers are 10 - 10 -20 not 20-20-10 tho)

they have everything to be noob friendly and i you lack speed just add flying drones or chaos knight (chaos knight are super cheap in $$$)

>>51076491
you dont HAVE to field that, if you want a cheap chaos army buy 2 box of chaos knight and a daemon prince.

>>51076546
I know, but "noob friendly" is a perfect bait for me

>>51076491
remember to buy on website and never pay GW price. on waylandgames and plenty of other website its basically 25% off, stone FLGS can make it even lower if you take the lot

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>>51076596
>GW finally has a social media presence and more focused on rebuilding relationships with fans again
>starting to make cheaper bundles(still expensive stuff but overall it's easier to get into the hobby now)
>Now has free tutorials on their YouTube with charming and friendly Duncan
>FUCK GW, DONT GIVE THEM MONEY

>>51076682
Sorry i'm a true warhammer fan, and as such i much prefer having four 2000 points armies instead of 3 for the same price.

>>51076682
i hope you never read a warhammer book you didnt paid for.

>>51076682
Man, If I would like to buy stuff from GW site, I would have to spend something like 31-hours earning for a single SC! box
>INB4 If you are poorfag, pick a hobby for poorfags
Still, I can support my LGSs. The more I buy at LGSs the more stuff they are ordering from GW

>>51076682
>GW doesn't make money from FLGS

>>51076750
LGS is fine.

>>51076596
>>51076723
Im not a poorfag, I dont care about saving a couple of euro by shafting a company I like.

>>51076596
Support your local GW or FLGS, which is also likely the place you play your fucking games too.

Christ, some people. "Hurr I can save a fiver I just have to pay for shipping wait why is gw putting up prices and why is my LGS closed."

>>51076792
heh if i dont buy at a discount i dont buy at all, guess which one is better for GW ?

>>51076977
faggot i just say stone FLGS are even cheaper if you buy bulk

>>51076987
>"I don't pay taxes because Im smart"

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>>51077027
You'd be a dumb goy if you had the choice between the same products, and you went with the full price over the discount one

After all GW CHOOSE to sell to 3rd party FLGS, who then CHOOSE to sell at 10-25% off

If GW had an issue selling to FLGS' then they wouldn't. They would rather sell them that SC box for $50 (normally $85) and have that FLGS sell it to you for $70.

That way, GW gets $50 they wouldn't have, the FLGS gets $20 they wouldn't have, the consumer saves $15, and everyone stays in business/playing.

I made up these prices but this is the idea behind it.

>>51078093
In Poland SC box costs on GW 250 PLN. At LGS something like 200-190 and LGSs are ordering them for something like 170-175 IIRC. The truth is that what you saved on boxes you spend on paints

RUN YOU FOOLS

>>51078609
>>51078609
>>51078609
>>51078609
>>51078609

NEW THREAD

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yo /aos/ !
i'm going to partake in a tournament, at 1000pts, i wonder what you guys though of my list :
1 slaughterpriest-100pts
1 exalted with impaling spear-80pts
20 marauders with shield/axe-120pts
20 bloodreavers with hevay weapons-120pts
4x 5 marauders riders with javelins-400pts
5 wrathmongers-180pts

pick related because they are not!greek in spehss fantasy

do i have any chances ?