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VIIIth thread for the VIIth.

Only a year left for Inferno.

>>51059185
At least we're still getting Custards next month.

>>51059139
link to the last thread : >>51043727
also it's happy primarch edition

>>51059185
29 days to go!

>>51059185
>Year
>not 28 millenia
then it's another delay

>>51059205
warhammer 40 000th edition when ?

>>51059205
>"Due to the unexpected Age of Strife and fall of society as is, we regret to inform that the release of Book 7 will be delayed to a time and date as the Immortal Emperor of Manking unites humanity and gets us back into contact with the printing presses on Mars. In the meantime, here's 3 new Knight heads and a transfer sheet for the 12th legion's 5th chapter 2nd company, 7th platoon 3rd squad."

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>>51059162
NLs BTFO.

>>51059139
>>51059141
Thanks m8
>>51059133
And yeah, threads are usually as I bake them, but I was taking a shower so it was beyond my control.
>>51059165
>put a white dot in the eyes
:^)

>>51059302
>Siege Tyrants still don't get models
>Meanwhile, Ultramarines get a HQ kit to represent the Mantle of Ultramar

>>51059324
I remember reading that line in one of the BL books and thinking how weird it was that they took a quote from Albert Fish and put in a book set in the warhammer universe. It actually spoiled my immersion. Is Albert Fish actually some sort of weird cannibal daemon in the Warp now?

>>51059382
>However, we were able to save the additonal Fulmentari heads from the fires so they're limited editon

>>51059382

Are you talking about that shitty limited edition model? Because that's clearly just a Uriel Ventris character reject.

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Grand Admiral Thrawn takes over the Imperial war effort against Horus after the Drop Site Massacre because Dorn is too busy being autistic.

How well does he do?

>>51059427
As far as I know, Horus has never painted anything or created any artwork that could be analysed, so Thrawn is probably going to get BTFO.

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>>51059162
Kek you're a bit late for that, Imperial clenched Hand.

>>51059399
There's a bit in Angel exterminatus where a German soldier is mumbling "blood for the blood god" while killing a french soldier at Verdun

IRL references in HH are fun.

>>51059427
He takes a look at a single painting of Fulgrim's and figures out all of the enemy positions.

>>51059399
What, he wrote "blown the fuck off"? I don't believe you.

>>51059451
Fulgrim is fucked at least.

>My analysis of this painting shows there's a dude in it. How did I deduce this? When I poke it with my finger it yells at me.

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>>51059382
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>51059421
Just like that not-Sigismund command set was a Sigi reject

>>51059478
In Angels of Caliban Curze says children are tasty, Curze eating people isn't new though, in Unremembered Empire there's a bit of Curze hiding aboard the invincible reason casually snacking on the leg of a crewman.

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>>51059478
>>51059399
If we're doing pop culture references in BL, in Angel Exterminatus someone points a bolt pistol at some tech priests and says
>Gothic, do you speak it?

Which version of Curze is best?

Fascist Batman who enforced order through terror? (Index Astartes)

A sad insane/broken man who had once been capable of greatness? (Prince of Crows/Night Lords Trilogy)

Slasher killer madman that causes havoc by himself and gives no fuck about his Legion? (Vulkan Lives/Unremembered Empire/Angels of Caliban/etc.)

>>51059500

It's funny because the generic model looks way more EC than Sigismund.

>>51059546
No fucking way.

>>51059551
first one is the best, putting someone like that in charge of a legion show that the emperor is as flawed as his sons

>>51059514
Oh, that line. Yeah, Curzefag splooshed all over it
>>51059546
That isn't cringy, that's awesome. Mainly because lots of SW and WS don't speak Gothic

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>>51059554
Falsehood and slander.

>>51059546
>Marines are reading "ancient Terran texts" and called Shakespeare "The Remembrancer Shake-Spire". His plays are taken as literal history.
>Thousand Sons take Lovecraft as "ancient manuscripts" and think it's literal history
>Book of Revelations is read by Magnus at the Council of Nikea
>Malcador quotes the Talmud word for word to Khalid Hassan. Space Arab being trolled by Jews 30,000 years later.
>Malcador has the 1997 Mars Rover in his hall of artifacts
>The Emperor has a line from Ozymandias written on the wall of his lab
>Damon Prytanis killed MLK
>Perturabo is obsessed with Leonardo Da Vinci
>The Eisenstein is named after Einstein
>An actual passage from the Egyptian Book of the Dead is retconned into having been an ancient prophecy of the Horus Heresy
>The Last Church references Garden of Eden, St. Thomas Aquinas, the Siege of Jerusalem in the 1st Crusade, Joan of Arc, and the Beziers Massacre

Endless

>>51059653
>His plays are taken as literal history.

Yup, all three of them.

>>51059653
>The Eisenstein is named after Einstein
You can't be serious anon

>>51059653
>>The Last Church
That was fun.
Quite biased, I like bias.

>>51059696
Well the Cult Mechanicus does have Tesla's skull :^)

>>51059653
>Damon Prytanis killed MLK
this is where BL canon ended for me

>>51059653
The Eisenstein is a reference to the filmdirector Sergei Eisenstein, who made the film "Battleship Potemkin". It's a great movie about being there for your friends, do what you feel is right, and oppose those who opress innocent civilians (i:e; horus exterminatusing the entire Istvaan 3 population an innocent brothers).

>>51059706
It was pretty ridiculous just how sophomoric the emperor's arguments against religion were. He could have been soundly refuted by any moderately knowledgeable theologian. It was /r/atheism tier.

>>51059726
Where's that from?

>>51059696

He could have literally googled Eisenstein and gotten the actual reference.

>>51059740
I know! Instead of killing Daemon President JFK :^)
Missed a golden opportunity there. Or rather, orange.

>>51059784
Should he have just said that religion gives power to the warp creatures?

>>51059726
Eisenstein was a famous Russian film maker, and one of his most notable works was about a Russian battleship who rose up in revolt against the corrupt officer class, and when a fleet of Tsarists came to put them down, many of the loyalist fleet turned against their bretheren and joined the traitorous battleship.

>>51059794
>>51059772
It's both, the ship was said to be named after two noted men from the Age of Terra, "one a remembrancer, the other a scientist".

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>>51059784
>He could have been soundly refuted by any moderately knowledgeable theologian.

The existence of gods is impossible to either decisively prove or disprove so victory goes to the debater who brings Thunder Warriors.

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>used my free shipping voucher on some white scars upgrade parts for some bikes I got cheap

I'll admit it, I'm a sucker for monovisors and those Mk2 shoulders look fantastic

>>51059784
Eh, he was merely inviting a priest to come out of a church he was going to tear down anyway, and his main point was "people is gullible so religions can control them", but he's also the Master of Manipulation himself, not to mention some of the first norms of social conduct were from religions.

>>51059853
Can't argue with that.

>>51059834
>It's both
No. It isn't Einstein, its Gotthold Eisenstein.

>>51059427
>He analyzes Fulgrim's most recent works
>Delves too deep
>Catches the Slaanesh
>Changes sides

>>51059451
He'd just look at the art of Cthonia.

One question, if the loyalists at Istvaan 5 where so clever, why didn't they greet their traitor brothers with 3 hours of orbital bombardment?

Fulgrim* 1 - Loyalists 0

*(Horus put Fulgrim in charge of Istvaan 5).

>>51059812
Thanks anon, that's interesting and I'm being honest. I'll be sure to tell that anon what you said.
>>51059785
Either Codex Cult Mechanicus or Skitarii
>>51059886
Well that's a load of galley's-ass.

>>51059772
It's a great movie about teaching you how to frame shots on stairs.

>>51059853
Top kek. You made my day.

>>51059696
>>51059772
It's both Sergei Eisenstein and Albert Einstein. Said the ship is named after 2 men from Old Terra, one a remembrancer and one a scientist

>>51059772
It also was Stalinist propaganda. Sergei was basically forced to make movies for Stalin in exchange for the privilege of living through the purges.

>>51060097
Propaganda or not, it's still a great film. The propaganda part is so losely tacked on you could replace the ideology for almost any, and the setting for any kind of setting with ship based warfare, and it would remain a great story. It's a solid story with good structure, the communism is just some shallow glazing, easily replaced by any other.

>>51059873

Welcome to the space mongol horde.

>>51060097
>>51060159
>tfw Stalin forced every product of mass consumption (books, movies, radio, etc.) to have a praise for him at the beginning and end
>Tfw original copies of books from the Stalinist era will have "Comrade Stalin is the greatest genius of mankind" written inside both ends of the cover.

>>51060201

yeah I managed to grab two death watch biker boxes for cheap (I didn't realize how much better of a deal those were than the old bikes) and so with some new torsos, heads and shoulders I should be able to just add some studs to the legs and make them pretty legit.

Got a few Scimitars coming from an earlier order too.

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So why were there no female primarchs?

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posting superior soviet movie

>>51060268

Emperor didn't see the point in doing extra work to make his genesperm compatible with inferior female body. Same reason G-Shock doesn't make delicate wire frame clocks.

>>51059324
Isn't there a full Power point presentation of all the Primarchs? Anyone got it?

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Tell me, fellow Legionaries, what's the best way to set up a Primaris-Lightning?

I'm tempted to just pile on the upgrades, but that gets expensive fast, and I'm not sure it's really worth it given the fragility of the fighter.

>>51060259

I'm still torn on how much I want the actual Outrider models vs the regular bikes.

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>>51059853
>so victory goes to the debater who brings Thunder Warriors.
Thunder Warriors are only a debate strategy when facing beaten down old men. When you need to defend your existence against the triumphant master of Terra it works poorly.

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>>51060323
No but I have this old classic

>>51060271
>Belorussian partisans
>soviet
Next thing you'll be telling us Bandera's merry band of cutthroats were soviets too.

>>51060327
I run four kraken missiles and the strafing run upgrade. Its the cheapest way to reliably nuke one vehicle.

>>51060268
Because Emperor said so.
Malcador asked why, and the emperor answerd "Because I said so".


As for female astartes.
In Primoginator, Fabius Bile, who is the closest anyone in 40k is to a happy Chaotic Good hero" by our modern standards, saids it's unfair and stupid that only males where allowed to become marines, and hinted that women CAN become marines, they're just not allowed. He even has a female sidekick who he has implanted with geneseed and some Astartes organs.

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How do Night Lord players usually run Conrad Kurze? With a unit of Night Raptors?

>>51060428
I used to run him with raptors but i found hes bad at primarch fights and he ruins whatever he runs into before his bodyguard can swing. So i run him alone and murder small squads until the opponents primarch, if he has one, is alone and outnumbered.

>>51059546
>>Gothic, do you speak it?
Seriously?

>>51060484
Yes. An IW warsmith gets annoyed that three ad.mech chitchat in binary with eachother

>>51060290
>extra work
Anon, making male clones is the difficult part because you need a Y chromosome. For females just repeat the X chromosome everybody has.
I mean, Russ has dog genes, everything is easier than that.
Difficult work my ass, just impregnate a woman so hard her ovum ejects the core and the kid inherits both of your chromosomes.

Or infiltrate her womb like Alpharius, you know who you are. Late Merry Christmas to the kids!

>>51060271
>thisishowIplaynightlords.webm

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>>51060427
>He even has a female sidekick who he has implanted with geneseed and some Astartes organs.
;^)

>>51060271
>Mortal regiments serving under the Eight

>>51060428
It depends on what my enemy is, but he's often by himself. His fear shenanigans make him best destroying small units that he can kill easily. A good target is artillery if he can catch it, or heavy support squads and the like. If they've got robots, then he's by himself fishing for the instant death on 5+. Death by Thanatar-cynis is about all the bots ought to be able to do to him. This is all assuming you play with terrain and not on a golf course, since he's small enough to dodge LoS

>>51060377
everything's wrong in that picture

>>51060522
>IW warsmith
Did he tell them that in binharic? That would have been awesome

>>51060478
That's very Night Lords of you, anon, you're a credit to your people.

>>51060416
Thank you, anon, how reliably does it shut down Spartans carrying Death Stars?

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>>51060522
Oh, I see.

I always thought it was neat when Perturabo suddenly speaks ork in Angel Ex.

Anons,

What exactly makes the Lightning better than the Xiphon?

>>51061055
>how reliably does it shut down Spartans carrying Death Stars
Not that other guy, but very.
4 BS5 S8 AP1 armourbane shots have a pretty good chance of exploding any non super heavy.

>>51061160
Customisation, it can be kitted to be a cheap light anti air unit, spam very potent missiles for antiarmour duties, take bomb loads, or even be kitted for anti infantry duties.

>>51061055
Ive only seen a spartan on the table once. I managed to immobilize it turn 1 and it never got moving again. The opponent refuses to run it again.

My lightning always fails me in some hilarious way even with BS 5. If your not running the terror assault or another deep strike list i wouldnt take the lightning anyway. Tanks do the job better and the lightning is a pain in the ass to transport. Also reserves rolls hate me.

I just though of an idea. What would be each primarch's ideal wife. The emperor realizes that all of his children lack any real connection to normal humans and half of them are dangerously unstable. So instead of being a good father and/or role model and talking with the primarchs about not being lunatics and showing that regular humans have value the emperor says fuck it and has Malcador waste his time and effort picking out ideal wives for each of his sons. Regular human women who have been augmented so they won't get ripped in half when they have sex with a primarch.

The question is what would each primarch's ideal wife be like? Personality, appearance, etc.

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Does Angry Ron not have a portrait like the other primarchs?

>>51061303
Forgot to mention the lightning did not immobilize the spartan. Two vindicator laser destroyers managed to flank it.

>>51061324
He couldnt sit still long enough for the remembremancer to sketch his face.

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>>51061310
Vulkan's wife needs to be able to drink a fuckload of alcohol, because she's going to be getting regularly hammered.

Why is artificer terminator armour not a thing?

>>51061454
Because every suit of terminator armour is a work of art.

>>51061454

What would it get Anon?

>>51059139
You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie. Me, I don't have that problem. Me, I always tell the truth. Even when I lie. So say good night to the bad guy!

>>51061454

Because it already has a 2+ save. Asterion Moloc in 40k has an artificer terminator suit. It's just a regular terminator suit for the rules.

>>51061310
fulgrim : feminine penis

>>51061504
idk, reroll a single save per turn?

>>51061310
Angron= lotara sarrin, or someone who could calm him and take care of him

Perturabo= tall, slim, socially competent and pretty girl that's very calm and happy and shows interest in perturabos creations, making him feel like a happy little autistic child instead of a bitter little autistic manchild

Vulkan = housewife-material who likes to bake. Not neccessafily pretty, but with a kind heart.

José; not so pretty, maybe even blind, shy and not so social girl who likes to be alone with him and likes him for his personality, not his looks, and they can sitt alone and talk about anything for hours.

Ferrus: A happy-go-lucky adorkable and playful girl that always tries to be happy, and makes ferrus feel slightly embaressed in a way he secretly likes.

Gulliman: someone like his adoptive mother, but younger.

Fulgrim; Lana Del Rey

Curze: someone who lets him, corax and mortarion play Catan on her belly.

Id imagine fulgrim would get some kind of hyper eccentric artist type

>>51060327
4 turbo kraken, strafing run, tank hunter.

But to have to be smart about it. Deploy out of mortis dread and deredeos line of fire. The old turn when you shoot rules are gone for walkers so they have a narrow interceptor arc.

Really you could kit with whatever you want. It just happens to be amazing AT.

>>51061310
They just find them boring.
I'm sure they could just throw together a masturbation machine and have the same effect.

>>51061310
Lion's ideal wife would be Luther only a woman. And the last part is optional.

>>51061160
The other anon said and the xiphon should be like 185. I get the feeling they had another upgrade base, removed it and forgot to drop the price.

>>51061324
Oh man i need maun and nex like this ha

Looking to kitbash a Death Guard Siege Breaker and a Delegatus

What might be some cool, thematic models I can use as a base for doing so?

>>51061881
Well, the easiest place to start would be weapons, what are they going to be equipped with?

>>51061920
And armor.

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>>51059874
The main problem with the story is that it was written by sci-fi writers who don't really know what they're talking about when they try to hit on "deep" topics. The same thing happens when comic book writers try to do political or social commentary.

>>51061881
I'd start with the plastics honestly. A praetor I'd get a resin beauty for, but consuls I'd start with a Mk III or IV (depending on your army), repose the legs, maybe get a fancy torso from the FW upgrades.

Then as anons said, find some cool looking weapons and accessories. For my delegatus I went with a loincloth bit, some hip armor from AL Heahunters and a pointing arm to emphasize his cool pose.

>>51061985

When you thin the paint just right

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>>51062169
Nah, that's this one.

>>51059427

Am I the only person who wishes that Zahn would write a HH Book? No-one, literally no-one has ever actually written Horus as a believable tactical genius, because no-one at the Black Library has an inkling as to how to write war.

Zahn would be able to make Horus actually feel like a Warmaster I feel.

>>51062217
>two
>thin
>coats

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here hhg, have some pics of my favorite primarch (sorry for the phone quality, once I get my hands on a propa camera I'll give you better pics)

>>51062349
fuck me, forgot to rotate

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>>51061667
wtf Jose?
Ferrus: Fulgrim :^)

I'm debating which unit I should put my kitbashed Dorn in, if any. Anyone have any input?

>>51062245

You get a bit of TACTICAL GENIUS in Vengeful Spirit which features BL's very own moon meme.

Interestingly, most depictions of Horus both pre and post-Isstvaan show his talent as mainly being delegation and pinpointing talent in his subordinates. The only time you read of Horus ordering things directly, it's for grand strategic campaigns like the Manachean War or Long March.

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>>51062382
this one should be right

>>51062433
welp, I tried and failed miserably

>>51062383
José sanguinius.

>>51062433
the flesh is weak but deeds endure anon

>>51061821
Lion's wife is a beard that constantly tells him that he is right and everyone else is stupid for not listening to him.
>You should have been warmaster. Give me one reason Horus would have made a better warmaster?
>Thanks, you always are good at cheering me up
>So can we have sex tonight
>Sorry, I'm tired, Luther's been riding my ass recently

>>51062622
Whaaaat?

>>51062973
>Sorry, I'm tired, Luther's been riding my ass recently
kek

>>51061310
>Fulgrim, some perfectionist bitch. Looks down on everyone for being ugly, stupid, and weak while actually being more attractive, intelligent, and fit than them
>Ferrus, a battle hardened Imperial Army general who ruthlessly opened fire on retreating soldiers on several occasions
>Angron and Perturabo, preferably someone to calm their tempers and help them accept or enjoy their lot in life as a berserker and a siege master respectively
>Sanguinius, like Fulgrim's wife but actually a nice person

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>>51063082
>>Sanguinius, like Fulgrim's wife but actually a nice person

>>51063043
Like old fluff from like 2004 or earlier where he was originaly named José Somethinglongandunpronoucable and the Emperor asked him if he had any nicknames, and he said that people call him sanguinius.

Probably been retconned or something by now. It was before BL started to write HH, like inte glorydays of Codex CSM 3.5

>>51063181
>For José and the Emperor, brothers ! the Josénor will guide us into the breach !

>>51060377
right wing trash

>>51063181
WHAAAAAAAT.
It's like the thing with his wife. I never get to read it.
Srsly, José Sanguinius.
>Sanguinor? It's Joseñor to you

>>51063181
Im gunna be needed some sauce on that anon

>>51063319
I've tried to find it, but it's all gone from the internet, including the very same pages I read it on. It was a decade ago, someone maybe lied to me, don't know, but I read it at multiple different pages back then.

>>51062973
Or would his wife just be a lumberjack?

>>51063082
>Sanguinius, like Fulgrim's wife but actually a nice person
And ever so slightly hotter, just so that only Fulgrim and his wife notice.

>>51061310
>Primarchs turned into such douches because they never got laid

Might be onto something here....

>>51063277
Don't be mad.

>>51063432
>Implying Roboute, Lionell and Perturabo aren't knee deep in boipussy

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Still no answer.

Trying to figure out what loyalist legion I want to start, so I bought some plastic MK III's to test out schemes. Im going to do

>2 ultramarines
>2 imperial fists
>2 iron hands
>2 dark angels

Cant decide what to do with the last 2 though. Maybe try out loyalist-leaning blackshield schemes.

Also why the fuck are like half the loyalist legions black

>>51063744
Black is a good color.
As for your remaining marines, RG

>>51063744
2 Nemesis chapter
2 Templar Brethren
2 Iron Hands
2 Dark angels
2 Obsidian-forged Salamanders :^)

>>51063744

The real answers are Space Mongols or Space Vampires and you know it Anon.

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>>51063456
Fucking their own sons is hardly healthy sexual behaviour.

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>>51063744
This is my favourite scheme.

Also Mk II/III helms are the shit.

>>51063826
Their state of mental health further confirms my claim.

>more imperial knight heads released
>no ravens talons or literally anything else that would sell more
At least two of the three aren't bad ugly.

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Guize, I know this is kinda wrong thread to ask but is that new Inquisitor model for the Fall of Cadia only going to be available as part of some boxset or are they going to sell those minis seperately? Can't find details on GW site.

Want to use it as a base for creating Adept Zeth for my Mechanicum army.

>>51059551

I like the middle, personally.

>>51063967
All Konrad are beautiful.

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>>51063744
Loyalist EC

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>>51064034

I will always love smile Curze. He looks like the weird uncle who was cool with slipping you a few beers at family parties.

>>51063947
She comes in a set with the Magos and Celestine.

>>51064101

He literally looks like the Joker with that smile.

>>51064125

Batman is kinda Ledger Joker, actually.

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>>51059139

What artist music genres do you think the Primarch listen to.

I'll start.

Roboute Guilliman

music genre: Classical music

Favorite artist: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

>>51064212
Okay!

Horus

Music genre: pop

Favorite artist: Hanson

Favorite song: MMMbop

>>51064212
Lorgar

Favorite genre: Gregorian Chant

Favorite artist: Gregorian

Favorite album: Masters of Chant, Chapter V.

https://youtu.be/Omv3ozIT4jM

>>51063430
>Fulgrim's wife has a one-sided competition with Sanguinius' wife
>For the Ullanor Triumph Fulgrim's wife has a custom made dress from the best designers across the Imperium, with fabrics that come from flesh eating silk worms that can only be found on a death world in the ghoul stars, with eldar soul stones sewn into it
>Sanguinius' wife is still better dressed

>>51064115
>in a set

Ah well, the Magos will come in handy, maybe I can find something useful to do with the patron saint of thiccness.

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This is what Inferno being delayed does to threads, what song does your primach waifu listen too? and what would their wives be like?.......... this is posting apparently, not building and painting models or even playing a fucking game....... might as well be homebrewing or writefagging.

>>51064212
>>51064325
Konrad likes really weird/creepy obscure goth music.
His wife is none other than me, of course.

>>51064342
Seek help.

>>51064342

>implying he doesn't have Ride the Lightning and Kill them All on a shuffle loop 24/7

>>51064351
What?

>>51064342
>>51064357

Konrad Curze probably has this on a loop.

https://youtu.be/8_YnX0HZSj4

>>51064325
I don't participate in that kind of posting either.
Mainly because all answers are biased so I keep to homebrewing :^^^^)

>>51064325

Are you sure things will actually get better once Inferno is released? The Scanbegging will be intolerable until we get them.

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>>51064452
Konrad Curze's actual teenager room

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Konrad Curze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBwS66EBUcY

Night Haunter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc5OShwMMLw

Concern about Praetor, Delegatus, and how they interact in an Allied Detachment.

So a Praetor can go in an AD since he has no rule necessitating that he be the Warlord.

A Delegatus must be Warlord unless his Praetor is present. So the logical interpretations would either be a) can't take him in an AD or (less likely) b) You can take him in an AD and that restriction is only for Primary Detachments.

Normally I'd say B is only wishful thinking, since he must be your ARMY's warlord--i.e. the whole force.

However, there's some fuckey wording with how Forgeworld defines the "army" term in the Praetor description. While it says only one Rite of War may be used per army, it then says that allies eligible to take rights can take them anyways, they just aren't affected by the RoW of the primary detachment.

Which seems to lend credence to option B, in addition to the fact that fluff-wise it would make more sense for a Delegatus to be leading a small force than a Praetor, right?

Or am I just retarded?

>>51063826
Lion only fucks his fatherbrother. It's why he couldn't bring himself to kill him during their fight.

>>51064502
Hot.

>>51064509
You can't take a Delegatus in an AD. We've had this rules discussion probably a dozen times now at least. If you want to get a RoW in an AD you need to use a Praetor or a named character with MotL (or, specifically for Armoured Breakthrough, the Master of Armour).

>>51064509
A Praetor cannot be taken in a primary detachment if a Delegatus is present, so if you want both (you can have several Delegati) then the Praetor is relegated to the allied detachment.

>>51064125
Yeah, just like the weird uncle who was cool with slipping you a few beers at family parties.

>>51064101
>>51064547
>tfw I never drank hidden from my parents because mom gave me beer without a thought after I asked what it tasted like.
You make too much of a deal from a mere drink

>>51064546
>Praetor getting kicked out by his own minion

lol.

Oh well, I guess I'll shell out for a Praetor then.

>>51062245
Horus is written more of an Eisenhower as opposed to a Rommel, a logistical/administrative juggernaut which in war is more valuable then tactics.

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>>51064081

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>>51064595
More like dumb rules written over stuff that was never fixed after becoming obsolete.
I mean, Heralds are the predecessors of diplomats (the name and winner of the battle of Agincourt was decided by the french and british heralds watching from a nearby hill), as such it would make sense they carried the authority of a Master of the Legion in an allied detachment.

But turns out Heralds cannot fill compulsory slots so they can't be present in allied detachment.

Dumb rurus.

Imagine, a tabard over a power armour. Mmmhmmm.

>>51064609

Tell me, how well of an Eisenhower does he come over in the BL Books? FW they can show grand strategy, but in the BL Books I can't understand why he was made Warmaster when others with more qualifications exist.

>>51064582
Full disclosure, I never had that weird uncle. My family has a history with alcoholism and my father was the only one who ever imbibed. On my mother's side everyone is so close to being a stereotypical crazy leftist that in the last years of his life my grandfather asked me to bring him liquor and drink with him just to annoy them.

I've never had to drink behind my parents' back, I just wound up doing it because I somehow always fell into the role of 'cool party guy'

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>>51064325
>>51059139

Alright then, let's get to it

I'm currently working on World Eater's tactical Marines and I just finish up a building Sicaran. I don't have anything painted yet though.

I'm also making a kitbash Rogal Dorn for a friend. It's nowhere near completed I have the idea what I want to do I just need to get more parts.

After I'm done with my World Eater's I'll start a Thousand Sons Army.( I mainly waiting on the fucking Inferno book to come out)

I don't have any battle reports to talk about right now. Mainly because I haven't been able to play any real games due to a lack of transports.

What have you guys been working on.

>>51064609
Except, you know, he actually engages in combat.

>>51064739
how was the sicaran build? was thinking of getting a recast sicaran or spartan as a "fun" project to work on this month while painting up my own world eaters.

>>51064763
My experience has been they're a bitch to build. Sicarans are deceptive because they have so few parts, but fitting the hull and sides together is a pain.

Still I love them enough to have two and I'm keeping an eye out for a cheap-ish sicaran venator.

>>51061310
Cruzefag....

That is all.

>>51064685
>but in the BL Books I can't understand why he was made Warmaster when others with more qualifications exist.
FW basically breaks it down to being "Yes Primarch X might have a 21 in stat Y, but Horus just had 20's in every stat."

You can beat Horus in your specialty. Barely. But he just kicks your ass at everything else. Jack of all trades, 2nd best of all of them.

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>>51064722
There there, anon. You don't need to be your weird uncle to drink responsibly, or to be ashamed of it.
/HHG/ doesn't judge, and the DG even less so.

>>51064502
Apparently Lorgar has been in Curze's bedchamber...

>>51064759
So did Eisenhower. He shot at a German plane that attacked his convoy.

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>>51064763

It wasn't too bad for me. But like >>51064775 said gluing the hall and the sides is the most difficult part for me.( also if you're getting recast there will be gaps)

>>51064212
Magnus like j-pop.

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>>51064763
>>51064909

Also I forget to ask.

So your playing World Eater's to. What does your list look like and how many free Chainaxes are you taking.

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>>51064212
Magnus The Red

Favorite genre Prog-Rock


Favorite artist Blue Oyster Cult


Favorite song In the court of the crimson king
And yes i know BOC didn't make that song

>>51065248

This would be his second favourite then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGKNaIXtBZQ

>>51065248
Veteran of the Psychic Wars is Ahriman's song then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGKNaIXtBZQ
It's a damn good blue oyster if it can spawn a whoe cult then

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>>51064621
Please don't come back until you've realized the folly of your ways.

>>51064285
>Sanguinius' wife has a dress hand tailored by each textile artisan of Baal, consisting of more intricate and beautiful designs as well as earning her more love, admiration, and respect of the citizens of Baal and the greater Imperium

So many months waiting for inferno..

Its enough to make a thread sick

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>>51061310
I AM FORTIFYING THIS KITCHEN

>>51065625

Wait until it comes out, and we get arguments over the fluff, arguments over the rules, and the endless, ceaseless scanbegging.

>primarch wives

/hhg/ should be moved to /trash/ between book releases

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>>51065688

Strangely, it could dovetail in perfectly to this old project of /tg/s. After all, Daughters need mothers.

>>51065293 Yes

>>51065301 And yes

>>51065675
at least itll be about the fucking game, as opposed to whatever this thread was about

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>>51065698
I HAVE BEEN SUMMONED

>>51064081
The Blood Angels one isn't anywhere near as good as the others, and the Alpha Legion one I don't even understand.

>>51065882
how do you not get the alpha legion one

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>>51065988
Spongebob is handing Patrick a box... for some reason?

I don't remember that episode, if there's any significance to it, whereas the other ones would be understandable if one hadn't watched for Spongebob at all, or in years as in my case.

>>51066052
secret box is probably the most memorable episode of the entire fucking series

>>51066069
Well that's a very weird choice. I had to be reminded to remember it at all.

I remember almost every other episode on that table save a handful, and even then I remember the imagery of the others even if I can't place the episode (IW, WS, SoH, RG).

While the "secret box" captures some of what the Alpha Legion are all about, it's not an exact reference because Patrick was just being stupid, not deceitful.

The problem I have though is that it's not a visually clever gag like the others are. You'd have to remember the entire plot of that one episode to understand it.
For similar reasons I'd find it funnier if the Blood Angels picture had a better joke than "it's a vampire, geddit?", and one that was actually Spongebob and not a different movie.

>>51066218
>The problem I have though is that it's not a visually clever gag like the others are.
>You'd have to remember the entire plot of that one episode to understand it.
How fitting for the XXth.

>>51066409
Except that's just an excuse for shitty screenwriting, as RLM would say.

Buddy of mine just got his whole RG army together and hes super excited to pkay his first game with it tomorrow. Hope I dont shit on him too hard.

I can't decide what to do with my dude because I have no one to play with. I bought both HH boxes originally to use them as CSM, but the HH legion rules are generally better than CSM at least for Night Lords.

The problem is that I really can't afford any of the big FW toys, so I feel like trying to start a HH army would be pointless.

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>>51066528
Zones
Mortalis

>>51066552

How does that help me, exactly?

>>51066528
Just bite the bullet, anon, my army is 100% Plastic and Pewter and I'm not having any trouble.

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>>51066441
Better?

>>51066636

Bite which bullet? How does HH even play without 90% of the rules?

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>>51066643
>>51066554
So much better.

>>51066528
Just go for a foot slog Legion.
If you have BaC and BoP then you have at least 60 Marines. That's a blob.

>>51066684

I'm having a hard time believing that foot Marines with bolters are playable by any stretch of the word.

I don't mean to sound bitchy. I'm just in a weird mood.

>>51066218
Wait, the Blood Angel one IS from SpongeBob. Don't you remember the Hash-Slinging Slasher? Again, that's one of the most famous episodes

Where's the most up-to-date army list pdf at? The most recent one I found in the megas was just a renamed copy of the Legions. All the rest were outdated.

>>51066729
Play Alpha Legion or Raven Guard and infiltrate 3x15 Tactical squads with an apothecary and 3x5 Tactical support squads for special weapons. 60 Marines right on your doorstep from turn 1 can be a bitch to remove.

SO Wait,
Can I just take a knight as a LOW for my 30k marine army?

>>51067061
Yes.

>>51066729
They can "work" as distraction/denial units for the enemy to waste their efforts removing, or as units for the enemy to ignore until it's too late and the blob can bear down upon the enemy towards the end of the game.

IMO Iron Hands, Imperial Fists, and Sons of Horus have the best reasons to use footslogging blobs without "gaming" via RoWs or what have you, as opposed to just taking the bare minimum "troop tax".

World Eaters inductii are also a stand-out "blob" unit, though they lose the ability to score points and so I don't see them as "troops" in the same way since they're absolute aggro units.

If the idea of footslogging troops doesn't appeal to you and you just view everything in the troop role as a "tax", then consider Pride of the Legion, or a mechanised list. Jump-pack assault squads might be more amenable to you too, especially if you choose a legion for which they are fluffy as troops choices.

>>51066940
I do, but I didn't like that part as a kid and in the context of the image chart it's a bit unfitting for every image to be the art of the cartoon itself ad this one to be an old movie clip that was in the cartoon for a few seconds.

Plus the joke is just "they're vampires huh huh" when in 30k the emphasis of their personality was more on the "angel" rather than the "blood", where the black rage hadn't set in or been allowed to run rampant in degenerated later-founding chapters. The image posted here >>51066554 fits better IMO, though if you can find something better feel free to post it.

>>51066580
i'm assuming because it is a small infantry based game set in the HH

>>51067022

>just play two legions you don't want to play

How about NL?

>>51067122

That doesn't sound like they work at all then.

I'm not saying i have to play on foot, what I'm saying is that I can't play with FW toys because the prices are horrendous.

Also, as much as I love jump packs, that doesn't solve already having 60 Marines.

>>51066580
>too newfag to know what ZM is
>too stubborn and stupid to READ THE FUCKING IMAGE

It doesn't allow large models you stupid fucking faggot. Or if they do bring one, it has to fit on the map and likely won't be able to move anyway.

You're like some faggot dying in the desert of thirst and when you ask someone for help, they give you a book on how to collect water from condensation when stranded in a desert but you're TOO FUCKING GODDAMN RETARDED to read it and go "HURRR WELL HOW IS DAT SUPPOSE TER HELP"

>>51067189
Sell them then.

If you're all about the quick-strike stuff then just make them veteran tactical squads, or get plastic rhinos and drop pods.
Otherwise, stop complaining about a situation you entirely walked yourself into.

"Forge World toys" is a weird point too. What are you thinking of specifically that you'd like to use but don't want to buy?

>How about NL?
They get a bonus for outnumbering the enemy, and that's something "blobs" accomplish, and their ROW lets them take drop pods so you can avoid the footslogging thing.

>>51067264
To be fair this guy seems like he has the personality for an in-canon Night Lord.

>>51067189
>How about NL?
>I'm not saying i have to play on foot, what I'm saying is that I can't play with FW toys because the prices are horrendous.

So play Terror Assault and get Drop Pods for transports, something like

Whatever HQ
3xTerror Squads with Volkite, infiltrate them
3-4xVeteran Squads with Combie-Meltas, Marksmen or Machine-Killers and Drop Pods
3x Deathstorm drop pods with missiles and drop pod assault, can easily be converted from plastic pods.

Bam, almost all infantry and 7 drop pods four of which come on turn one and all of it can be from plastic.

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>>51064739
>>51064909
Nice work lads

Someone earlier posted a picture of an amazing iron warriors book that appeared to be bound in metal. Would any kind anon be able to re post the picture?

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Ok so got a Friday night game in and a Zone Mortalis game in today as well, I am overflowing with heresy. This is the sweet ultrasmurfs force I played with my under strength Death Guard on the Friday match. Was looking like a draw on turn 5 but then we rolled a 4+ for turn 6 and my leviathans graviton cannon shot scattered badly killing my own guys and my HQ died as well losing me the match!

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I dont know if I should gloss him

>>51067419
do not gloss, will looks gross and tacky, your wash could have been a bit darker too, but still looks pretty cool bro

>>51067419
are you the anon who's doing a Dorn conversion ?
either way that is looking really damn nice, wish i knew how to highlight that subtle/well , as soon as i get the runefang silver out it sticks out like a sore thumb on the model

>>51067516
>are you the anon who's doing a Dorn conversion ?
I'm not

>>51067489
>could have been a bit darker too
It's under a bright daylight LED so its a bit lighter.

I also went and glossed him. I can't get my phone camera to capture it well due to the light glare being so intense, but it does look a lot better under normal room lighting.

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>>51067409
and the ZM game was a bunch of fun as well as almost all ZM games are, I don't think I have every rolled so many 1s in a single match before!

>>51067641
the good thing about gloss is even if you change your mind down the track you can just wack a dullcoat on over the top anyways.

On the topic of the whinging about footblobs, when we finally get rules for the Rhino Advancer, footblobs will be back with a vengeance.

>>51067737
>rhino advancer
what is that

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>>51067743
Poor man's land raider.

>>51067264

I read the image. How does me playing with a limited army help me playing against anyone with a real army, or are you suggesting in play a game no one here plays because it requires it's own board?

>>51067273

Most of the stuff in the red books is forgeworld is what I mean. I don't know, I guess I was just expecting to not need forgeworld. How well does a 30k kost actually play without it against normal 40k?

>>51067318

That's interesting at least. How do I make the Deathstorm?

>>51067770
>Most of the stuff in the red books is forgeworld is what I mean. I don't know, I guess I was just expecting to not need forgeworld. How well does a 30k kost actually play without it against normal 40k?
So you want to make due with regular space marine toys? Are rhinos and predators and shit okay? If so the overall army is certainly useful against 40k, you can field lots of cheap bodies and vehicles the former of which are still space marines and thus relatively hard to kill. Beyond that fury of the legion is actually pretty brutal in 40k where 20 man marine units and 2 wound terminators are rare.

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>>51067743
>>51067757
It's to the Rhino what the Spartan is to the Land Raider, basically.

Random image because beaten to it.

On the topic of the Land Raider as well, why has there not been a tank-destroyer variation of it? I imagine it would be quite powerful.

>>51067770
>How well does a 30k kost actually play without it against normal 40k?

Well, most of what's in 30k that's not FW is already in 40k. Save Centurions, the fliers, and the Crusader/Redeemer, the 40k Space Marine stuff is in 30k AFAIK, and it's just the prevalence of "better" FW-produced "lost technology" that relegates stuff like boxnaughts, the Phobos, Predators, and the basic Whirlwind to second-fiddle. That, and drop-pods aren't as prevalent in 30k as in 40k, though if you're NL you can get away with using Drop Pods a lot more than other legions can, closer to how it is in 40k.

>>51067867
>most of what's in 40k that's not FW is already in 30k.
That's what I think I meant.

>>51067318
>>51067757
>Deathstorms
I'm not a huge fan of the krak ones. BS2 for non blasts the turn they come on isn't very effective.

And rereading them
>the Deathstorm may continue to fire once normally at the closest enemy target.
and
>Independent Machine Spirits
>Deathstorm Drop Pods may target different enemy units with each of their weapons
Has me concerned about the actual functionality of the pods.

>>51067867
>On the topic of the Land Raider as well, why has there not been a tank-destroyer variation of it? I imagine it would be quite powerful
Cerberus, Typhon

>>51067909
The Land Raider, not the Spartan!

What would a Land-Raider proper look like if it was turned into a tank destroyer?

>>51067737
>FW makes the Advancer
>Looks like a bulky Rhino
>fits 20 marines
>made available only to loyalists in 40k

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>>51067980
>What would a Land-Raider proper look like if it was turned into a tank destroyer?

>>51067824

Yea, as long as they don't have the FW price tag, sure. Basically, anything I can get from GW is fine because I can get 25% off.

>>51067867

I was planning on actually running CSM with them, but Legions are generally just better, even just as representing them as CSM. Night Lords in particular. The TL rules for them are okish, but don't feel like NL because of how restricted CSM are.

>>51067409
>"Ah, sons of Guilliman, you think the trench is your ally? You merely adopted the trench. We were born in it, molded by it. We didn't see the no man's land until we were already men, by then it was nothing to us but poison!"

>>51066940
>Hash-Slinging Slasher

All I can now think of is this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqMBdu9_96A

>>51059551
Trick question they all suck dick

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>>51068085
Agreed.

Death to the traitors of the VIIIth!

>about to finally order that sweet sweet Spartan from a recaster on eBay
>click buy
>'item not found'
>all his warhammer items disappear

Fuck. Anybody know of a place where I can get another one without paying full retail?

>>51067737
/hhg/ Rhino Advancer rules when?

>>51068143
Yoyhammer?

>>51068151
rhino with 15-man capacity
open topped like the stormlord

that's it

>>51062349
Nigga he looks like fucking Ashy Larry from Chappelle show

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>>51068011
>DELETE THIS, the tank

Jokes aside, they don't make these anymore, and I was thinking more along the lines of the Cerberus, where the vehicle is radically redesigned to be a tank-destroyer, not just strapped with as many lascannons as it can carry, in a stopgap post-heresy solution.

It's one thing to say the tank can't take turrets well, for a handful of "okay, we'll accept that"-tier handwave explanations, but there's zero reason for the Mechanicum to say "no, we can't take out the front door and troop space and shove a huge AT gun in", especially since they already did more or less the same engineering task in the form of the Achilles, except with a non-AT piece of artillery.

>>51068172
No, it has to be 20!
I bet you don't think grav-rhinos should be a thing either!

>>51068191
>it has to be 20!
no, it should be 19 just to piss you off

>>51068207
I hate you.

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>>51068191

FW don't think Grav Rhinos should be a thing, considering the replaced them with this.

>>51068085
>>51068117
Wtf, rude.

>>51068218
Bligh did say grav land raider could be a thing for DA.

>>51068218
Whoever wanted that retcon is a retard.
Not that giving the Custodes their own vehicles is a bad thing, just that they should have access to what the Astartes can, if they are to be an "army" in their own right. And they should have what the old lore said they should have as long as it wasn't "Obi Wan Sherlock Clouseau tier.

>>51068251

Shouldn't the Custodes have better tech? They're the Emperor's personal guard, so they should have the best the Emperor has to offer. And their stuff is all hand-made, not mass-produced like the Legions equipment. It would be like every single marine had artificer armour and master crafted weapons, and every Land Raider had the special armour of an Achilles and a Flare Shield standard.

>>51067757
>poor man's LR
I need it for my KdK.

>>51068295

>thinking non-loyalists will ever get anything new or remotely good

>>51068278
>Shouldn't the Custodes have better tech?

What do you think the Grav-Rhino is, exactly?

I don't care, I'll just model that thing as a Rhino. I don't care if it's Land Raider sized, Rhino with grav plates and thrusters it is. I'm playing 30k, not FW's 30k as dictated by St. Blight the Immovable.

>>51068307
But I need it.

>>51068311

A floating Rhino. The Armour is no better than a Rhinos, and Rhinos are very thinly armoured as is. Plus given that Custodians are as big as Terminators, you'd be lucky to fit any of them into a Grav-Rhino. The new vehicle being bigger does make sense given the increased scale of Custodians.

I do suspect we'll get Grav-Rhino models for the Sisters of Silence though.

>>51068320

Then you should get Codex: Space Marines™

>>51068349
But I NEED it.

>>51068278
I agree with that, but there have to be scenarios where the Custodes have to get shit done, and don't have the time or discretion to bring in Astartes to do the heavy lifting for them, and when you consider that the Custodes themselves represent a higher investment than almost anything in the Imperium besides the golden throne and the primarchs, it would make sense that the Emperor or Malcador or whoever would say "fuck it, I don't care how much space it takes storing all these METAL BAWKES we seldom use, if there ever comes a time for the custodes to do stuff, better we waste the Mechanicum's bling and Astartes lives rather than let a single Custodes die unnecessarily'.

And I checked the wikis. Apparently the spin is that the grav-Rhino was an "experimental" vehicle used primarily in the "war within the webway".

>>51068363

Sounds like you NEED Codex: Space Marines™

>>51068332
>A floating Rhino.

Which isn't something available to Marines, now is it?

>The Armour is no better than a Rhinos

[citation needed]

>Plus given that Custodians are as big as Terminators, you'd be lucky to fit any of them into a Grav-Rhino.

You can fit 5. Nobody has any problems with a Razorback fitting only 6 Marines. Or Storm only fitting 5 Scouts.

>I do suspect we'll get Grav-Rhino models for the Sisters of Silence though.

Why would something as important as SoS get shitty Marine equipment and not glorious space cadillacs?

>>51068407
SOS are still just humans, for whom Space Marine Rhinos represent (in-universe, at least) a significant upgrade to the Imperial Army fare.

>>51068407

The Coronus does appear to be far more heavily armoured and gunned than a Grav-Rhino. It has a Twin Bolt-Cannon in the nose and a Twin Assault-Cannon turret as well. So it would be more effective as armoured support than a Grav-Rhino, which only has the Boltgun turrets.

>>51068429
SoS are not 'just humans'. They are above and beyond the human fanfare, each one a valuable destructive weapon to the warp simply by existing.

While I still need to finish building a few models and painting a few more, I'm just about done collecting doods for my Night Lords.
Now I'm looking to build a small allied force I can use alongside 'em.

I'm torn between Death Guard (their only 100% allies) or Blackshields.
I like the lore and modelling opportunities of both.
If I do Death Guard, I'm planning on modelling a small portion of the army as full Plague Marines, and others as being part-way through the transformation.
For Blackshields, well, I just think I can have a lot of fun with the fucked up wargear, random xenos bits, and eclectic aesthetic.

What do you think? Which should I go with?

>>51068429
>genetics determine your tech level

Are we venturing into /pol/ territory here?

>>51068453
Makes you wonder why Marines even bother with Rhinos when Land Raiders exist...

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>>51068649
This is 40k. You're already in it.

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If I somehow manage to find chinaman, should I go all out with my Night Lords and do full blown pic related, or just go for the terror squad upgrade pack?

>>51062454
Happened to me a couple of threads ago. I find that cropping seems to help if you're on iOS - no idea why.

>>51068793
Terror squad.

If you want bat wings buy a Raptor squad heads on ebay, you'll just need a few anyways for HQs and sergeants. Winged helmets should be used sparsely in my opinion.

>>51068863

>FW raptor heads
>ebay

>>51068893
Or just buy the whole squad of course.

>>51068936

I didn't realize they had just heads, but $4 per head is retarded.

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>>51066528
>>51066729
HH is worth it. At the moment, it's a significantly better game. And you've got options:

A lot of plastic 40k stuff works, like Rhinos (and Predators and Vindicators), Drop Pods, Land Speeders, and Land Raiders. Rhinos and Land Raiders have alternate designs (Deimos-pattern and Proteus or Phobos Mk IIb) that people identify more as Heresy-era, but you don't really have to pay the higher price for them.

You could get Chinese recasts.

Or, as you've heard, you can footslog. It works with legions that have special rules that help their mobility, like Infiltrate, which NL Terror Squads get. And with the Terror Assault rite of war, you have to take three squads of them as your compulsory troops choices. They're better in drop pods, imo (an options thanks to that rite of war - drop pods aren't as easily available in 30k) but infiltrating is pretty good too. I recommend buying volkite chargers for your terror squads. Take some dreadnoughts too.

>>51068793
The Terror Squad upgrade pack is better. 30k doesn't have as much cartoony stuff as 40k.

But your Terror Squads only need to look really different from normal Tactical Squads if you're taking any of the latter... which you don't have to.

>>51068251
I think the idea is that the Custodes were around before Terra formed an alliance with Mars, so they have the best that Terra had to offer. The Space Marines came later, and received the best that Mars could mass produce.

>>51069101

I'm pretty retarded when it comes to china, and have written myself off as a lost cause there, otherwise it wouldn't be as much of an issue.

Plastics work though, especially since a local store sells as 25% off msrp.

Pods make sense for NL I think, so I'd probably use them, and I like that they get teleporting termies, too, though Contemptor dreads are pretty sweet.

>>51068388
but i need it

>>51069128
>best that Terra had to offer
>use bolters on everything, even though volkites were higher levels of tech
>AP3 weapons

This shit don't pass peer review.

Besides, Terra was a shit hole. Why do you think all the fancy stuff came from Mars? MkI power armour was the best Terra could offer.

Looking to finalize the rest of my DG. This is what I have:

mortarion
10 grave warden
10 deathshroud
10x lascannon marines
Leviathan Dreadnought (phosphex discharger, heavy flamers 1 drill 1 claw)
9x Space Marine Rapier Quad Mortar
Space Marine Apothecary Set
10x Cataphracti Terminators Came with calth sets, plan to make them spam plasma
2x Calth box Praetor
2x calth box chaplain as artificer praetors
calth box contemptor 2 kheres
calth box contemptor 2 fist in built graviton gun
10x autocannon marines
10x heavy flamer marines
60x marines with boltor, pistol, cc weapon
4x sergeant
6 flamer
6 melta
6 plasma

Planning on getting missile launchers and Calas Typhon.
I plan on getting at least one spartan. Should I get 2? How many total LR transports should I have? I could get phobos as transports for the deathshrouds. Proteus looks neat for sneaking in some heavy flamers.
Adding 1 more contemptor so I can run a full unit.
I want 1 superheavy and was looking at the typhon tank. Sound fitting?

Should I get a derdeo, medusa, xiphon or lighting (which is better), vindicators (laser destroyers or demolishers?) or rhinos? Any of those really jive?

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>>51069283
How I feel when I complain to people at my local game store about Custodes and they tell me the rules are WIP

>>51069452
>>51069488

I won't forget

>>51067189
>How about NL?
Yeah, Sevatar has a warlord trait that allows him to infiltrate three units. That's a start, add some jump pack dudes and drop pods to support. Terror squads can infliltrate too.

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>>51069501
I've been compromised

>>51069508

>requiring a named character

WHY
H
Y

>>51068151
A while ago.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/User:Unification#Rhino_Advancer

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>>51069508

Except he doesn't?

>>51069703
Copypasta strikes again!

>>51069723

What?

>>51069508
No it doesn't confer that at all, that would be useful and fun.

>>51069723
Nah I think it's more that GW and FW's creational backruptcy strikes again. Seriously, they can't come up with giving something an original name if their life depedent on it.

>>51067867
>>51067867

Razorbacks also aren't in 30k which sucks because its the only place I've ever actually wanted to use one.

>>51069835
You can give rhinos a multi-melta or heavy bolter though. Specially the multi-melta is like having attack bikes that trasport your marines as well.

>>51069128
The 1st received stasis weapons from Terra.

>>51069886
>30k
>put MM on Rhino
>no effect
>40k
>put MM on Rhino
>takes up 4 spaces of transport capacity

>>51070011
Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned.

>>51069703
>Master of Ambush
Learn 2 read.

>>51070170
What Sevatars' Warlord trait does is spelled out beneath it. It just happens to have the same name as another warlord trait. Key words : This means

>>51069886

Didn't actually realise this. >.<

I now have to consider it for after I finish acquiring bikes, Javelins, Assault Marines and Sicarans.

Should Techmarines be able to choose being attached to squads instead of buying servitors?