Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1268: Seafood Edition

>>51038270
Jumpers, I'm pretty sure we've already had discusions about the best food you've had, but what about the worst food you (or your companions) have ever had in all your chain ?

Val if you're still around does Homunculus & Mana Core stack? Like having 4000 high quality magic circuits?

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>>51037929
Was there ever any doubt? Best husbando/over protective dad.

>>51038123
If it's not an existing Skill, it'd be an NP.

>>51038130
Yes, they'll all be muddy.

By Servants without limits, do you mean Class War? It depends. Class War Servants are much stronger, have more abilities and items, last longer and can spam stuff almost as well as the Alter Servants...but once they're dead they're dead. Alter Servants only get a few stat buffs, basically unlimited recharges on mana and a serious downgrade to sanity. But they also respawn often, so you're only options are finding a way to trap a Servant, powerful beings who can go intangible at will, or constantly run.

Honestly, I'd say that if you're taking both drawbacks separately, Black is the new Black would be harder to stand and fight because you're against everyone at once, even if they are crazy and uncoordinated. If you're taking Class War and a drawback that makes everyone team up against you, that's easily the hardest thing in jump short of JUMPER depending on your build.

>>51038305
They do.

>Golly, that new Fate jump is mighty good! Let's see what things are good, and what aren't!
>Oy vey, that's a lot of things! Had to cut a whole lot of goodies!
>Oh well. Now, how much does the whole thing cost?
>9900 CP
>Humbug!
>...Say, this must be driving me bonkers, with these kinds of speeches.

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>wake up and read the en of yesterday's thread
>refresh and find a new thread up
I think it's going to be a good day.

What legends do people tell long after your jumper leaves?

So what kamen riders are not being planned at the moment?

I wonder if I could figure out how to use the Second Magic to fully draw on the power of the Dimension Lord Dimension from DC Occult when I'm not in it.

>>51038356
Can multiple companions take Demi-Servant? If so, how does work for number of Servants summoned? Would you have to kill them, seeing as they're not part of your Master-Servant team?

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Can someone update me on where the Fruit Kamen Rider goes on the Chronological order of Kamen Riders?

>>51038447
After Neo-Heisei 2 but before Neo-Heisei 3.
Wizard is the series before it, Drive is the series after it.

>>51038447
Right between the neohesie parts 1 and 2

>>51038356
So, if i take class war and grail campaign, then...

This is going to suck, isn't it?


also, I just realized I've been slowly planning to companion basically the entire fsn cast. Hmm...

>>51038479
Oops my bad parts 2 and 3

>>51037848
It's not that part, it's the part where you're full of rape worms. How do you think those things get into you? It's by rape. They're little motile penises with teeth.

>>51038296
My mother's cooking.

>>51038490
Anon, are you this immature? Kid, if you're this offended by thematic drawbacks that are justified in canon, maybe you need to go back to tumblr.

>>51038420
The legend of the stinky bandit.

>>51038504
I feel weird whenever people associate tumblr with SJWs because I exclusively use Tumblr for raunchy fapfiction. I mean, I know intellectually they're out there, it's just kind of hard to picture they're on the same site as the guy who draws Lara Croft doing unseemly things with a pack of dogs.

>>51038356
Since JUMPER already has all you stuff anyways, does he get anything from Class War? Does Black is the new Black turns him Alter?

>>51038356
Perhaps a weird question, but what would happen if I jumped King Arthur in the nasuverse with that time extension drawback that makes you stay until 2020, and then jumped any fate jump really?

>>51038562
I would fanwank that the jump ends early, as thats pretty much the only way it CAN work. That or the overlapping years get retconned.

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>>51038420
>"Eniripsa's Fist"
An unusually combative Eniripsa who was given guardianship of a Shushu blade.
>"The Pacific Cohort"
A group of mysterious kaiju who fought to save the world alongside jaegers.
>"The Penultimate Titan"
An entity who stood with Raviern, the Last Titan, against Nemesis, who played cards with Cerberus and Eris, and cut their way through the worlds.
>"The Spanish Devil"
Believed to have made a deal with the Devil. The most feared privateer on the seas and terror of the Portuguese.
>"The First Lachuirp Shock Infantry Regiment"
Not actually a regiment, but the squad-sized unit was routinely the decisive factor on the battlefield that kept the Lachuirp civilization from falling. Each member of the unit held critical positions in the day-to-day operations of Lachuirp life for nearly a thousand years.
>"The Dragon Cripplers"
A caravan of khajiit who boosted the reputation of the race across Skyrim after their association with the Dragonborn - bringing dragons down where they crossed paths so that the Dragonborn could tear out their souls.

Is the Viking Saga jump based on a particular setting?

>>51038580
It's basically just Norse myth.

>>51038580
Norway.

>>51038589
>>51038590
Haha okay.

>>51038562
Interjump continuity generally requires a drawback.
Otherwise they're all taking place in parallel worlds so that overlapping timespans and totally derailed plots aren't as big a problem.

>>51038490
That's why its a drawback.

>>51038628
It's one of those things generally avoided by drawbacks.

>>51038490
You can't rape the willing, anon. If you willingly take that drawback you're giving them consent to give you the D.

>>51038634
THAT is why its a drawback.

What do I do if a Jump doesn't give options to import companions?

>>51038672
Be sad.

>>51038672
accept that your companions are going to have to hobo it up as functional drop ins.

>>51038685
;_;

>>51038672
Tell those fuckers to get jobs. Fucking bills don't pay themselves. Unless you took that perk in SIMS3, like me.

>>51038704

How do they get jobs without the proper documentation?

>>51038725
Day labor.

>>51038725
Magic.

>>51038733
>>51038736
Magical day labor

>>51038691
Wait, even if there's no option, you can still bring them anyway?

>>51038752
Yes. They just can't buy shit from the jump. You can always bring them in unless the jump says otherwise. Importing just allows them to get shit from the jump doc.

>>51038752
You can keep (8 + amount of pods you have) active companions in every jump, they don't have to be imported to actual be in the jump with you.

>>51038725
>his companions are undocumented
They have to go back.

>>51038785
JC is gonna build a wall and make the waifus pay for it!

>>51038800
>Not buying your waifu an ID
You horrible person. She's a person, not a slave.

>>51038763
>>51038772
Holy shit, yessss. Oh man, even without points, if you time it right your bros can still be really strong. If you have more than possible number of companions (Such as from 42nd Supreme Being in Overlord, and actually finding all 41 members of Ainz Ooal Gown) do the ones you don't use just chill until the next jump if you use them?

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Digger, Kamen Jumper, nor HeavensAnon are on for me to scream at but dear me looked at how this is starting to stack up!

Kamen Rider Heisei Part 2 Kabuto Jump 57d:
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
Kamen Rider….? [+000]
Who Wrote This Show? [+100]
If the Jumper is Stronger….[+200]
Worm Food [+200]
Origin: Drop-In
Perks:
Grandmother Once Said… [Free]
Supreme Chief [-100]
The Jumper Who Rules Everything [-200]
The Path to Heaven [-300]
Gear:
The Great Equalizer [Free]
Here I Am [-300]
Lord of Speed [-500]
A Monk’s Robes [Free]

I Don’t Fight Alone! [-100]
(Ranma, Marcus, Ryoga, Misaka Worst, Sabo, Kazuma, & Yumi) [400]
Origin: Drop-In
Perks:
Grandmother Once Said… [Free]
Supreme Chief [-100]
Gear:
The Great Equalizer [Free]
Here I Am [-300]
A Monk’s Robes [Free]

Roselyn [400]
Origin: ZECT Agent
Perks:
Shooting Straight [Free]
Trade Secrets [-300]
Gear:
The Great Equalizer [Free]
ZECTrooper Wear [Free]
Anti-Worm Weapons [-100]

Just a Note here: The reason that I call the Speed Belt the Great Equalizer is that HeavensAnon agreed to change the name to that when I preposed the idea to him IRC but he never got around to it. So screw it I'm calling it the Great Equalizer!

Now! Onwards to my Kabuto Shitty Writing: http://pastebin.com/pQcahGKz

Do we have any perks for cultivating rivals, ensuring that they'll rise to be, if not at your level, at least an entertaining challenge? I've got enough fate weaving magic that I could do it myself, but a perk working through fiat would be nice, just for subterfuge's sake. No one would be able to trace it back to me, then.

>>51038807
You can swap them out in your warehouse normally during a jump.
You actually need to pick them up there if they're not imported.
There's options out there to make it easier though like the badge in Paper Mario.
If they're not being used they're in companion stasis and are basically timefrozen out of reach.
Some people fanwank that they hang in your warehouse, but that's not really standard.

>>51038807
Well they aren't active in jump, just what they do otherwise is kind of a house rule. Canonically they're frozen, in stasis, unless you have them out. Some people don't like this so they let them be active on a ship, in the warehouse, a demiplane or whatever real estate you have that isn't necessarily in jump.

You can also swap them out in jump. I sometimes keep only a few with me and leave some in reserve. That way they get down time to do what they want, and I have reinforcements in case things get bad.

>>51038820
No, and that sounds retarded, desu.

>>51038356
Which of your stats "count" during a fight?

Or since that's an unclear question:
If I got to Fate/Extra as a Servant, and get EX Rank strength, then go to Fate/Stay Night as a demi-servant and get E Rank strength, then pick a fight with Berserker and punch him in the face, is his NP going to cancel my attack (because I have E rank strength /this/ jump) or is it going to hit (Because I have EX Rank strength from Extra)?

Also, what do others see me as?

Totally not asking because I enjoy the idea of getting all A's and in Extra, then showing up in Stay Night with all E's and trolling people with how the E Rank abilities are punching through Berserker's NP, that would be silly.[/blatantlies]

>>51038820
Take drawbacks that give you rivals and don't turn them off.

>>51038847
No, you'll count as having EX+ Strength. For stats (not skills or NPs), they're literally just numerical measures of strength. If, for example, you have 500x peak human strength, that counts as EX for everything but purchasing higher ranks in the supplement itself.

>>51038885
Oh. Damn. There goes that method of trolling the cast.

>>51038903
There are spells in Overlord to send false information to people trying to ping your stats.

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>>51038445
Yes. Demi Servant is an entirely separate thing from actual Servants. Becoming a Demi Servant doesn't make you one of the participating Servants in the Grail War, it's entirely separate.

>>51038481
Ahuh.

>>51038530
He'll get anything the other Classes get as innate bonuses yes. Stuff like stat boosts or class skills.

>>51038562
That's up to you to fanwank really, how that affects the continuity drawback.

>>51038847
For the purposes of things like Berserker's Godhand, it'd be whatever rank your actual, effective strength is, not the highest rank you bought or your current rank. If you're already 500 or more times stronger then a human, you're effective rank for the purposes of stuff like Godhand would be EX.

That said, what appears on your stat sheet to other people is mostly up to you. If you want it to be your true stats that you have overall, then it is. If you want it to be based on either of your builds, then it can be too. So yeah, you can still do that.

>>51038903
Well, Val's ruled earlier that what they see is up to you.

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/50097500/#50106574

>>51038928
YES! Much thanks!

>>51038820
The spiderman triology jump has a drawback for villains. Namer from practical guide to evil could make Names to fight you, and the sailor moon wip has a way of given people superpowèrs.

>>51038928
Love the new jump, but I want to make sure I get this down right.

A Jumper can only benefit from the Servant Supplement once. So if you go Demi-Servant in Fate Stay, you can't go full Servant in another jump and get another pass through the SS.

However, if you do go Demi-Servant in FSN then you can still be a Master in a later Fate jump and either pick up a Servant or import a Companion to fill the Servants role.

Is that correct?

>>51038928
How much of an update is the supplement getting and do you have a general idea of when it and zero are gonna be released? I'm trying to decide if I should wait to make any builds.

>>51038903
If you take Strange Weapons multiple times, can you use another version of the perk on something that's already been shaped by Strange Weapons? Can you determine its shape among a certain group? Like, say you took "sword": Could you decide whether what you shape becomes a rapier or a flamberge?

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>>51038979
>another pass through the SS.
Ara Ara~

>>51038990
Yes and yes.

And suddenly I'm picturing someone trying to use two different versions of it simultaneously to create a guitar-chainsaw or something.

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>>51038979
Being a Servant and being a Demi Servant are separate things. You can be both of them at different points, but only once each. You can be a Servant in one jump and then a Demi Servant in another, but that's it for both options. You can still pick either option of course, but the supplement will only be able to be used once per option, no matter how many Fate jumps you go to.

>>51038985
The Supplement...the major stuff is going to be making it easier to use and cleaner. Prices and important stuff at the start of each section, the sections more cleanly divided, all the basic info you need on Servants at the start and so on. There's also going to be a big reformatting of the Skills section because it's ugly as sin. Not sure how well it'll turn out but it should be nicer at least.

The only new things will be a Sample Servant section that will be added to as I go through jumps with canon Servants, a section for buying templates such as Alter, Lily or Living Servants and a large number of new Skills.

As for an ETA...not sure. I don't think it'll take longer then a week at most, probably more like a few days. I'm going to try and push to get it finished as soon as I can. Zero will be taking quite a while longer, doubt it'll be sooner then a few weeks unless I get lots of inspiration and am in the best mood constantly.

What does your jumper do when random change conspires to destroy all their plans and hopes, repeatedly slamming the door on what looks to be your only way out until eventually there no longer is one?

I'd like to ask a quick question of anyone more familiar with Pokemon than I am which is most people, truth be told

Would it be a reasonable task to beat the elite 4 and champion without being a protagonist or having any meta-knowledge of the games? I have Champ in the Making if that makes a difference. I'm making a new chain and I don't know whether it would be bullshit to have my jumper become champion or something like that.

I asked the same thing last thread, but the answer I got wasn't as thorough as I'd hoped, so I figured I'd ask one more tome before I just bite the bullet and get to writing.

>>51039046
>Being a Servant and being a Demi Servant are separate things. . .
Awesome! Thanks for the clarification and I'm looking forward to the rest of your stuff.

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>>51039017
When something has a different "material ratio", does it compensate? Like, a sword has more metal bits than a mace, which has more metal bits than an axe: if you picked up an axe, would the "material ratio" for a sword of similar size "shift" so there's a proper blade instead of a piece of wood shaped like one? How broad can it be? Like, "swords" are pretty varied in shape and function, even though polearms are a category all their own, yet basically amount to "blade/ball on a stick".

>>51039068
Metaknowledge would.

Champ in the Making is a big help as well.

Arguably any of the other capstones would help you a bit also (Aura can read the emotions of your opponents, Psionics means you can telepathically communicate and direct your Pokemon, Polyglot means you can speak to them in their own language meaning your opponent probably can't understand you.)

You also have to take into account how much you'd work for it. It's a hell of a lot easier to just bum around in Pokemon being a decent trainer than it is training constantly to become champ.

I'd roll a d100 for it to see whether I managed it. You'd have a shot but it wouldn't be a definite thing and the modifier would depend on other factors.

>>51038438

Heavens is working on Ryuki right now. I'm working on Amazons but I'm waiting for season two to come out before going all in.

So that leaves Faiz, Blade, Hibiki, Den-O, Kiva, and Decade. Nobody is working on those.

Oh, and nobody is working on The First/The Next movies.

>>51039068
Depends on the region and how good you are at team building.
If you train up your team to acceptable levels, have type knowledge, and actually build a team that has good coverage beating the elite 4 isn't all that hard.
Of course it's going to be tougher than it is in the games since they won't job as hard as the AI, but you can also do things outside of turn based battle so it evens out.

As for region deciding difficulty some are much harder than others, like Sinnoh for example. Cynthia is 2 stronk for a champion and actually has a reliable competetive team so taking the champ spot in that region is a lot less likely. However Lance in Johto is kind of a joke with anti dragon tech so you can wipe the floor with him even if he's a hacking bastard

>>51039094
Material ratio will compensate, yes, because otherwise turning something into a guitar or a megaphone would be difficult, and the point of the perk's to let you replicate the canon character weapons.

Wideness... Hm. I'm not a sufficient expert on medieval weapons to comment here, but by the same token, you could call a sword "Sharp piece of metal to poke people with." That being said... I dunno. Fanwank? About the width of the Swords category, however wide that category may be. Since the shape honestly becomes aesthetic and irrelevant to the function once you've used the perk (try and claim that an oversized pen is a functional weapon, I dare you), I don't really see the point of being concerned about it.

>>51039126
First and next are valid? I was thinking about them, but I didn't think they would qualify.

>>51039126
In my view Decade should be the LoT of Kamen Rider jumps. The World of X format means you can just create a bunch of mini-adventures, and then you hit the Rider War at the end. Deadlight analogue would probably involve something like choosing to keep your powers at the cost of increasing the potency of the dimensional fuckup anomalies, or just using powers from the jump in exchange for an easier time, maybe with a side note that you unlock any powers associated with a particular Rider on visiting their world. Maybe be a bit clever and phrase it as destroying everything or connecting everything.

>>51039168
Alright, thanks. I assume that if I try to smelt a shaped weapon down, I won't be able to gain more material than the original weapon, right?

>try and claim that an oversized pen is a functional weapon, I dare you
Depends on the scale, I'd say. Have you never heard the saying?

>>51039176

I think they're valid.

I've actually been thinking about including a new +0 drawback in the Showa Part 1 jump that switches things over to The First/The Next's continuity. I'm unsure tho.

>>51039241
Yeah, if you melt it down, you'll just get the original weapon.

Touche. A giant lobster, then.

>>51039238
Heavens has already said he's working on Decade in a manner similar to LoT, though not as long.

>>51039249
For Practical Evil, if you choose Good, but tend twords neutral against your name, but have a Sorcery trait, and study and cast sorcery a lot, are you going to get backlash?

What kind of learning benefit does Void give?

Is Pathfinder, seeking and enacting a path towards ultimate victory a valid Name?

Does the 15x and 30x learning boost only apply in a clinch, or can I just study for a month or two?

>>51038805
Don't worry, anon's going to ask Jumpchan to give his own magical day-laborers exemption

If I summon a Saber class Servant, will Shirou not summon a Servant at all?

>>51039360
Yep. He'll die to Lancer unless you change the course of events. Even if you don't, head over to his place and loot the corpse for Avalon.

>>51039331
The Backlash seems to be alignment based, not Aspect based. Catherine takes it for letting a hero go, but Black Knight doesn't seem to have any problems despite not being out conquering things.

Stealth.

Pathfinder's a valid name, but I'm not sure that's a valid effect. Divination magic might pop out of it though?

The learning boost is constant, and one of the reasons that Black and his buddies attempt to murderize heroes before they can get started (the other reason being that them getting started tends to end in giant rebellions). The "in a cinch" is the perk based one, which activates in the face of great evil.

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>>51039250
What? No. Decade is Digger's thing, not mine. Are people confusing us together, now? I'm doing a Ryuki gauntlet in an LoT style, though it's definitely going to be a lot shorter and while you're powerlocked at the beginning, you actually can't fail or lose your chain in the first half. After you reach the point you decide to take your powers back or remain in gauntlet mode, the rules go to their usual respective modes.
>>51038808
I forget things very easily. Very cool write-up, by the way.
>>51038438
>>51039126
This is correct. I was considering doing Den-O and Kiva together but FUCK TIME TRAVEL. I am not even considering it until I've cleared my plate, let alone finished the Tatakae Trilogy.

>>51039378
>loot the corpse for Avalon
What is Avalon in the context of Fate?

>>51039414
It's an EX rank Noble Phantasm and also a location/afterlife/land of the fairies/all of the above

>>51039414
Sheath of Excalibur, powerful artifact, basis of one of the most powerful noble phantasms around. The NP basically blocks all attacks from reaching the one using it. It also provides really good regeneration to whoever has it, provided that it's getting a supply of prana. However the only one that can actually use it, or supply it with prana is King Arthur(female).

>>51039428
>a location/afterlife/land of the fairies
I knew that, but how could you loot the corpse and take that plus a NP or was that a joke that I'm completely missing?

>>51039428
I thought the actual afterlife was seperate from the scabbard and the scabbard just partially shunted the user's body into the real Avalon?

>>51039238
>>51039250

Honestly one thing I want to see from the Decade jump is a special version of the 'belt combining' option in most of the post-Showa jumps.

Not only does it allow your belt to accept Rider Cards, it also streamlines it somehow. Maybe you can change all your transformation gimmicks into Rider Cards and back at will?

Because I can't even imagine what kind of hybrid abomination Drivers that Jumpers have made, myself included.

Our combined belts probably look horrible.

>>51039414
Excalibur's scabbard, which in accordance with many of the tellings of Arthurian legend is actually the more powerful magic item. According to legend it could prevent almost any wound, and heal the ones it couldn't. The Fate version does the same thing.

>>51039242
Fun fact, I actually asked If i could do that the other day. Go for it.

Also, why can companions in showa 1 and 2 not take items?

>>51039428
Do people you teach with True Magic have the same growth potential that you do (i.e. years, decades, centuries)?

>>51039122
>I'd roll a d100 for it to see whether I managed it
How do I determine whether I succeeded or not from the roll? I've never used that method so I don't know how I interpret a large roll like that. Outside of /jc/ I don't play many games that involve dice

>>51039446
The one in Shirou's body is the real artifact Saber originally had, not a summoned NP.

>>51039475
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Simple_D6#Task_Resolution

>>51039454
Yeah, that.

>>51039446
Yeah, the above. They're the same name for different things, though the NP basically just takes you to the place.

>>51039470
Once they unlock it, which can take an indeterminable amount of time. The Tohsaka family took a few generations until Rin got the first bits down.

>>51039465
>Also, why can companions in showa 1 and 2 not take items?

Because I was still new to making jumps then and thought companions not being able to buy items was normal.

I'm probably going to update Showa Part 1 and 2 at some point.

>>51039379
What would cause a backlash with a Neutral alignment?

>>51039490
Does knowing one of the Five give you an advantage to discovering how to use the remaining Five? Can you just research your way there with shit tonnes of time and effort if you already have one form of True Magic?

>>51039498
Ah, okay.

If you do update, can I ask for a perk that lets you always have your helmet on hand?

Also, more items. It's very sparse on items.

>>51039514
Nope. They're all totally separate.

>>51038846
>he will never face a true challenge
>he will never experience the exhilaration of a life or death struggle
>he will never experience the joy of overcoming someone who puts up a real fight
>he will always be bored and boring
I feel for you. I really do.

>>51039500
As far as I'm aware? Nothing. Ranger hangs out with a super-powerful lich, helps the calamities, then turns around and starts training up heroes.

>>51039523
So you can purchase one of the Five and the 2nd and the 5th have people who can teach it in jump. That's it, right?

>>51039544
You can buy three true magics at maximum if you're super desperate and hate your life.
That's probably going to be my build because I'm a sucker for wierd magic

>>51039516

It's sparse on items because I honestly couldn't think of anything else back then. Any suggestions would be nice.

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>>51039528
I like you, anon.

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>>51039404
>Are people confusing us together, now?
It was bound to happen. You two do make a cute couple. Do we need to come up with a Power Couple name for you guys now?

Hegger? Diven? Higgens?

I tease, I tease.

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>>51039544
Well, I'd say only the 2nd's user has reached the necessary training (He's also the only one shown to be able to do so) so just the 2nd probably. Even then, as above, it's a fuckin hard and long thing to do.

>>51039557
And the great thing is your new best pal JUMPER gets to come in with them all mastered.

>>51039490
Are True Magics going to be on offer in other Fate jumps?

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>>51039528
>I have perks that prevents me from getting bored
>I have perks that make me enjoy every moment of my life filled with magic, science and friendship
>I have perks that make me realize that searching thrill of a fight to the death is stupid
>I will get my spark unlike other idiot jumpers who wanted to aim too high

Enjoy your post-jumpchain life as you're reminded of how much of a failure you are.

>>51039528
Just crank up the difficulty with that one perk from Phantasy Star Online.
Having a rival hardly matters if even the mooks can be life or death struggles.

>>51039574
Can you pod JUMPER if you befriend them?

>>51039544
Yeah, but both the second and the 5th are not good teachers and likely wouldn't want to teach you.

Zelretch would probably just troll you instead.

>>51039560
Thats fair, I guess.

...I don't think I'm capable of capturing the kamen rider 'feel', but I'd like to take a whack at a First/Next jump.

>>51039574
>JUMPER
Is it wrong that I plan to pretend she's my mom? People will be so confused.

And Cadmus Clonepanion will only make people even more confused!

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>>51039574
>And the great thing is your new best pal JUMPER gets to come in with them all mastered.
He gets all my other powers, right?

I'm already scared of fighting my equal, I certainly not need someone even better than me solely dedicated to fuck me over.

>>51039475
Well it's not an exact science but you take the various factors into account as best you can then estimate how difficult it'd be to succeed as a percentage.

Then roll a d100 and if your roll is high enough you succeeded. So say you figured you have around a 40% chance of success you need to roll a 60 or over.

>>51039379
>>51039532
What happens to a Name given to yourself or a companion after you finish the jump? Does the Name go to a new person in the PGtE while still remaining with you?

>>51039574
Don't worry, if he goes for one, three, and four JUMPER will merely be a near immortal soul form with ridiculous mana output able to add and subtract things from existence on a whim.

>>51039528
>he has to fabricate challenges instead of seeking out real ones
>he's addicted to something he should have experienced and gotten over long ago
>he has to simulate people just to have a "real" fight
>he's so pathetic, immature, and stupid that he thinks that not only is combat the only thing that can possibly not be boring but also that endless battle and war isn't
>he probably thinks that Naruto and Bleach are unrivaled works of art
>he doesn't have perks that prevent boredom
I feel for you. I really do.

>>51039560
The five hands from super 1

>>51039574
Question. Youve said HOW stats and skills - not combine - stack, but when do they do so?

Will they do so by default, or so I need Not My Final Form to stack them?

Also, it's been pointed out to me that some skills are more like inherent traits of the body rather than knowledge. I assume I can use the knowledge one's freely, but are the body one's bound to their specific altform, or can I use them freely also?

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>>51039584
In any of the ones I have planned right now? Uh, not to my knowledge. Unless some major thing comes up I don't believe I will.

If I manage to get through every jump I have planned for Fate, I'll pick up Mahoutsukai and you'll get another chance at the 5th maybe. That's months and months away even if I do.

>>51039598
Uhm. Hmm. Not sure really. If you manage to survive all their attempts to kill you, solve their issues peacefully and then convince them to stay with you for some reason rather then passing on peacefully to whatever lovely fluffy afterlife awaits then...sure.

>>51039620
Don't worry anon, I like clone/twin drawbacks too.

>>51039628
Yup, everything, including items and the warehouse. Heck, even properties. Only thing he doesn't have is companions. Because they're all dead and gone.

Wait, apparently an anon posted a PS238 update here? >>51037060 And nobody replied to it?

...is this SJ trying to sneak something through again.

>>51039677
No, that's someone else Bancho brought in after realizing the crap SJ was pulling.

>>51039637
Yup. So once you leave, someone else will get the same Name. Not that it really matters too much, since worlds are frozen, but hey, I guess it'll be fun to troll them when you return post-spark and there's suddenly two Pathfinders or whatever?

>>51039638
How did you know what I was going to pick?
Either way it sure is a good thing that I don't normally deal with my problems with excessive murder or this would be impossible

>>51039675
The free Master is supposed to not be able to be a Magus Heir, right?

>>51039570
...That pic is literally the opposite of that sentiment.

>>51039691
Oh, shit. Hopefully it works this time.

>>51039644
As the guy who posted the original question, I actually just wanted to elevate specific people to the role of "main antagonist" for aesthetic reasons. I took the perk in Kabuto that makes you the main protagonist, and I'd rather deal with some of the minor characters in various works rather than the normal main antagonist. It's not about a challenge, I could get that from the canon rival, it's about finding the canon rival insufferable and wanting the more likable minor characters to get more screentime.

>>51039709
Of what? Wanting a challenge?

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>>51039675
>Yup, everything, including items and the warehouse. Heck, even properties. Only thing he doesn't have is companions. Because they're all dead and gone.

Yep, everyone picking this is going to die.

How does it feels to end many chains with a few words?

>>51039560
The ridol from Kamen Rider X which can transform into a whip, rope, stick and a longpole

>>51039675
Would 2nd magic + Item creation EX allow me to create Jewel Sword or Kaleidostick ?

>>51039755
Unless you've properly empowered your companions. Or you're so old and powerful that few centuries isn't noticeable.

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>>51039755
You severely underestimate the power of the right Companions.

>>51039754
Well, I suppose it isn't. Well, at least it isn't when it's taken out of context. Link is pushing through pain and injury as a hero... As the only one who can or is willing, he expresses great determination to defend his home from evil. Empowering your enemies to be your equal is the opposite of that, and literally is nothing but pure evil.

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>>51039666
They'll do so by default. Post jump your Servant stuff just becomes innate traits of you and you'll have them in any form, during the jump it's just in the form you started the jump in.

As above.

>>51039704
If they pay for the origin they can be one, why wouldn't they be able to be?

>>51039755
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXCGnTy-v2M

But really, I'm just glad people are seeming to enjoy it all and are having fun thinking about it.

>>51039755
You just have to be smart if you face him/her.

1. Have stronger companions than you, or have a bunch of companions that combined are stronger than you.
2. Only have abilities that do not get stronger over time. DO NOT get one of the True magics that would be rally bad.
3. Be a Good jumper that actually can convince your future self that life is worth continuing on for, like Shirou with Archer.

This drawback is most punishing for anons that invested all their strength into themselves, as it should be.

>>51039803
Ah, the Master option specifically mentions them getting any of the free origins or paying 300 CP for Homunculus, so it sounded like you were deliberately excluding them from buying Magus Heir.

>>51039818
>as it should be.
Well fuck you too, buddy.

>>51039798
I never claimed to be a good person, anon

My jumper has a weird combination of hedonism and a desire for self improvement and determination.

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>>51039770
Eh, I guuuuuess? It won't be at the start, you still need to master the 2nd to the needed level. S'really just knowing how the 2nd works that's important, but EX IC does make it hella easier to make the thing once you got the know how. In a few decades. Or whenever. You know.

>>51039828
Oh, shit, right yeah I did. Yeah, I need to fix that. Magus Heir costs 100cp for imports/companions/whatever to buy. Probably a leftover from when I took out the 100cp surcharge for the super capstones.

I'll update it...soon. Probably today. Soon, yes.

>>51039831
>9831▶
>>>51039818 (You)
>>as it should be.
>Well fuck you too, buddy.
:)

>>51039781
>The real jumpchain was the friends we made along the way

>>51039854
..... Well I just failed in replying, I didn't think that was actually possible.

>>51039852
That's an interesting question. What's the difference between EX Item Creation and The First Magic?

>>51039675
>Yup, everything, including items and the warehouse. Heck, even properties. Only thing he doesn't have is companions. Because they're all dead and gone.
I am forced to assume that this takes place by having cooler and better looking versions of your properties pop up right next to wherever you place yours. Your civ ruins are completely ignored because of the cooler and older ones JUMPER brought with him. Your pizza place is skipped over for the one next door that's open longer and has better service. Even your kickass mansion has a cooler renovated version right next door.

>>51039859
My Officio loves their Warmaster, and that's enough for me.

>>51039881
...That's fucking hilarious. I don't think it would work, as you arrive a year before they get summoned.

>>51039852
So, did JUMPER have a lot of downtime, or was it just constant fighting and training? Because I, uh, took a second specialization in crafting, and this could get bad fast...

>>51039881
>Your pizza place is skipped over for the one next door that's open longer
>Yours is open 24 hours a day
>JUMPER dilates time to turn his pizza place into a hyperbolic time chamber

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>>51039878
The First is better.

>>51039881
That's pretty great. Silly and they'd probably be destroyed or older versions but it's still really great.

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I was out of town for a few days and unable to check the thread, did I miss anything?

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>>51039894

>>51039920
It's mostly fighting and training yeah.

>>51039922
>You begin to offer cheese stuffed crust.
>JUMPER offers cheese and pepperoni stuffed crusts
>You offer any topping stuffed in the crust
>JUMPER folds space to offer entire pizzas stuffed in the crust

>>51039955
Assuming they don't replace EMIYA, will they know each other? Or will EMIYA be the canon one, even if I start teaching shirou stuff before he arrives?

>>51039944
New Kamen Rider jump for Gaim is out.
Fate Stay Night is now it's own jump as well.
You should go check them now.

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>>51039924
>The First is better.

>>51039969
>JUMPER folds space to offer entire pizzas stuffed in the crust
Thats a calzone. Or a stromboli. One of the two.

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>>51039859
>Jumper prayed from the bottom of their heart.
>Giygas felt the weight of love and friendship from millions of individuals across thousands of realities.
>getdunkedon.gif

>>51039997
It could also be stuffed, deep fried pizza

>>51040000
Jumps can't interact with each other until post-Spark, tho.

What are some Perks that let you become a gifted storyteller?

>>51040013
That sounds disgusting, mate.

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>>51039982
He won't replace EMIYA. I guess you could say they might have encountered each other? It might be a neat way of explaining how your JUMPER got the way he is, if he also became a Counter Guardian.

The pic isn't for you it's just the only EMIYA pic I have that's safe so no hard feelings.

>>51040042
>he's never had deep fried pizza
I'm sorry, anon. I'm so, so sorry.

>>51039574
So, you can learn the 2nd in-jump, you just can't improve it once you leave the Nasuverse? What if you pod or otherwise companion Zelretch?

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>>51040013
>>51040068
>Deep fried pizza
You are actually terrible human beings. Be ashamed.

>>51040060
...Dealing with 'i dun wanna be a counter gaurdian' is going to be a hell of a lot harder that what I had planned.

>>51040075
No, if you manage to learn the 2nd in jump, you can then improve it. If you don't learn it in jump, you can't learn it outside a nasu jump.

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>>51040060
>safe

Are they affected by drawbacks as though they had them for centuries?

>>51040087
>>51040042
You're both missing out on so much life has to offer. I bet you've never even had deep fried Oreos.

>>51039818
>Put all my points into myself
>Literally unkillable
>Still have fun in jumps because I can experience the stories
>Know that the only jumps I'd settle down in are Morrowind and Dragon Ball
I'm pretty sure that a future me wouldn't try killing me because if we both went all out (Gundams) we'd have the potential to destroy the Earth, which in the Nasuverse it'd mean that we'd be fighting an unending supply of counter guardians and other weird shit to stop that from happening. Knowing that, I think we could come to some kind of agreement.

>>51040118
>JUMPER had his life destroyed by fighting his own JUMPER, who had his life destroyed by fighting his own JUMPER, who had his life destroyed by fighting his own JUMPER...

That sounds hilarious, and totally like something my Jump-chan would do.

If you take Detention in PS238, is there anything stopping you fromu jst walking out?

>>51040118
>deep fried Oreos
I'm not them, but I've had them. It's the fattest I've ever felt in my life, and I'm pretty fucking fat. Surprised they didn't give me an immediate heart attack

>>51040192
>the fattest I've ever felt
Oh, they're bad in that respect but you can go deeper. Have you tried deep fried butter?

>>51040118
I've never had fried Oreos, but I have had a deep fried snickers covered in powdered sugar.

Some things just shouldn't ever be mixed under any circumstances.

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>>51040096
Would hardly be any fun then. The drawbacks would have lifted after ten years for them.

>>51040118
Bleurgh how can you do that to your body

>>51040140
Nah, basically his only goal unless you fight long enough to convince him of what he lost faith in, is to kill you. Collateral is fine if it gives him peace at last. Course, I'm sure he'd help fix whatever was damaged if you do help him get over stuff before he leaves.

>>51040211
Just

Why don't you just shovel fat into your mouth at that point?

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>>51040118
There is no reason to dip Oreos in pancake batter and deep fry them. NO REASON!

>>51040211
No, the oreos were as far as I'm willing to go in this life. Is there anything worse than deep fried butter?

>>51040232
>shovel fat into your mouth at that point?
they'd have to deep fry it first. Then use that as a pizza topping. Then deep fry that.

>>51040232
>>51040234
Sometimes a little self-destruction by way of culinary exploration is a good thing.

>>51040220
It's about the riiiiiide, man.

>>51040265
whyyyyy? Why would you do that to yourself?

>>51040140
He wants to kill you so utterly that he would erase both you and himself from existence, there's not much reasoning with this guy, especially for old jumpers.

If you were the one in his shoes and your goal was to kill past you I don't think that he would care about little things like the destruction of the planet. Besides he probably would just teleport you guys to some uninhabited world or create a separate dimensions like a reality marble rather than deal with Nasuverse Earth.

>>51040232
I don't think you understand. Neither of us can die, ever. If we start fighting and get serious, we'd use weapons that can threaten the destruction of the world. In Nasuverse that's a big no-no.
Read http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/World
Basically if we fight the entire planet would work to kill us, which is impossible, but it would sink continents, cause never ending storms, send out the most powerful monsters ever (past and future) and more just to stop us from fighting. That's just Earth, if you try messing with other planets it can get worse.

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>itt American jumpers horrify their Commonwealth siblings with their culinary abominations
'Murrica

>>51040293
And he's desperate. Willing to do anything. Even if he knows there's no real chance it'd work. Just like EMIYA.

>>51040298
I imagine she tastes like deep fried food, too.

>>51040289
I only trained in defensive techniques, how to use a sword, how to throw one type of magic lightning bolt and the rest is in my Gundam. There is no power either of us would have from that training which would allow us to get off Earth to fight.

>>51040232
Ah, that's somewhat reassuring. I shudder to think what someone with An Ego Greater than All the World's Evils, Spinal Tap or (god forbid, and) Cruel and Unusual would be like after several centuries.

Um, in the process of making a First/Next jump, how much am I allowed to copy from Showa?

>>51040309
Nah, Iowa probably tastes of corn.

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>>51040272
Culinary exploration is substituting Oreo crumbs for a graham cracker crust in a pie. Dipping desserts in pancake batter and deep frying them in just culinary genocide. Deep frying butter should be considered a war crime.

>>51040342
deep fried corn, surely.

>>51039852
Is the Fourth Magic affected by magic resistance, or just magical power?

>>51040298
I'm American, and most of this stuff still seems really unappealing.

>>51040365
Nah, Iowa doesn't deep fry shit. They're more about grilling. They'd call it BBQ, but that'd cause large swaths of the south to go apoplectic.

>>51040347
>Culinary exploration is substituting Oreo crumbs for a graham cracker crust in a pie.
Pffft. That's like exploring your back yard. It only counts if you're a kid, it's summer time, and your telescope is also a machine gun lazer.

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Any must grab stuff/perks/things to look out for in chrono trigger?

Also, I'm making reptites' bodies like raptors because fuck that furry bullshit.

>>51040368
Magic Resistance would add on top.

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>>51040414
Marle and Ayla

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>>51040347
Canada is just as bad when it comes to "culinary exploration".

>>51040315
Well that's different, I assumed that you were god tier like most jumpers. I suppose he'll just call the Gundam and not care about the consequences, because he really, really, wants you dead and the Gundam is the only way that he can.

>>51040437
Poutine is pretty horrible, even when you're drunk.

>>51040404
Well, apparently Iowa has deep fried butter on a stick and the state fair is known for a variety of fried food, again on a stick. But that's what wikipedia says and using state fairs is kinda cheating. They always have fried shit.

>>51040424
...But does it do anything on its own? Like, say I want to harm an opponent who is resistant/immune to magic, but not magically-gifted themselves: Would it work or normal, or would it punch through?

>>51040458
State Fairs are indeed cheating. They're like low-rent Hunger Games where the real thrill is surviving them.

>>51040392
Same. I'd kill a man for a funnel cake but when you throw chocolate in the mix it just gets meh.

>>51040467
Yeah, it'd work. You're still usin magic afterall, even if it's strong as fuck.

>>51040479
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Who the fuck puts chocolate on a funnel cake? That's a party foul and a half.

>>51040424
Does JUMPER knows that I know he will arrive?

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>>51040404
>grilling is BBQ

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>>51040414
"Furry bullshit"? Anon, Reptites don't look like furries, they look like aliens. They're based off the hypothetical design for a sapient evolved dinosaur done by Dale Russel in the 80s.

As for what to grab, Dreamstone, the Rainbow Shell, and the Sun Stone are all must-haves. You can get those in-jump, so no need to purchase them with CP.

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I'm ooooout. Any questions I'll get to in time. Soon. When I wake up, probably not before.

>>51040514
Yeah, I know, but that's how some people roll, man.

>>51040489
So, if I buy the 2nd magic, would it be safe to assume I can make use of it wherever? But If I learn it, I'd need something like Doormaker to ensure the existence of parallel dimensions?

>>51040491
Yeah, you save the chocolate for elephant ears.

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>>51040523
Sleep well.

>>51040523
>When I wake up, probably not before.
You can answer questions in your sleep? Interesting.

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>>51040437
I never said they weren't. There's just as vile examples of poor culinary choices up here as there are in the States.

>>51040453
Poutine is actually really good when made PROPERLY. Key word there. Buying it at a bar or a fast food joint is going to get you second rate cheese on crap fries covered in canned gravy. When made correctly, with real turkey gravy and fresh cheese curds on top of home made fries, it is a delight.

I hate poutine at first too because of my first few exposures being fast food style saltbombs. But, after visiting Quebec and having the real stuff, I can tell you that it's delicious when done correctly.

>>51040447
>We both fight in the indestructible Gundams
>Spend more time fighting things sent from the nearby planetoids to interrupt our fight than we do fighting
>Eventually gain a small camaraderie because we can only talk to each other for the 10 years.

>Jump ends on a newly formed planetoid made from the corpses of all the things we've slain as I stare at him and say "The fuck? We wasted 10 years fighting just to have you give up at the last moment? No wonder you're the bad end. Have fun being the chicken shit you are, I'm going to continue my journey and have fun just to spite you"
>As soon as I leave he gives a smile, knowing his purpose is complete

>>51040491
The fried candy I've seen has essentially been a coating of funnel cake around a chocolate bar.

>>51040404
>BBQ
yeah no, that's not barbecue. fuuuuuuuuuuuck that.

Barbecue is pork done in a smoker.
I'm gonna explode Iowa in my next jump.

>>51040714
>not pit roasting your pig
Get on my level, famallamamama

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So jumpers what do your guns look like?

>>51040829
I don't really use guns, famalam. It's kind of hard to justify using them when most projectiles may as well be stationary from my perspective.

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>>51040829
I just really like the 1911, okay?

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Changelog:
400 CP perk for Faith of Shadows is no longer a companion, but instead aimed toward joining multiple teams and getting away with it.
Knowledge of the Infinite Order has been severely downgraded, and had the price severely downgraded to compensate.
Mithril Rapier now explains /why/ you might want it.
Reliquary gives an option of coming without a bound succubus/incubus.
I think there's a few other minor clarifications, but I can't remember them.

As per usual, throwing this up for a balance check, I'll finish up any fluff remaining after I'm sure that everything's balanced against each other.

>>51040829 I just got really good at throwing things.

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>>51040988
>>51040868
What about carrying a weapon do discourage the ignorant from attempting violence against an apparently unarmed Jumper? Or when you lay down some violence yourself and don't want to reveal the fact that you're some kind of hellgod?

>>51040829
>>51041057
I carry around a shitty toy gun that does nothing. When I "shoot" it I just fire a bolt of plasma or a laser at whatever the toy is pointing at.

>>51041057
Glamours/Illusions should do the trick. Generally there's no need to carry the real thing, and anyone who can see through those probably wouldn't be fooled by a gun anyway.

>>51041057
>discourage the ignorant from attempting violence against an apparently unarmed Jumper
But that's really fun. Also, it might discourage them from attacking "apparently unarmed" people. It's, at best, good for bluffing.

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Have you ever used a custom companion option to recreate someone that you couldn't pick up as a companion because there was no jump at the moment or there was no canon companion option?

Who?

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>>51040829
Gun? I don't think I actually have one.

>>51040829
Generally sort of a long and roughly rectangular shape. Kind of like the sort of guns that mecha tend to be equipped with, if you know what I mean.

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>>51040829
>Picture very related.

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>>51040523
Have a good night.
In the meantime, the build is done. This'll be FUN™.

...

Inartuculate sobbing?

~~~


100- Magus Heir: Ah, the elite of the dying breed. Fabulous.

Command Seals: Have to say, being abusive about using these Seals always confused me. What kind of idiot... Ah, nevermind. 'Tis a stupid tangent.
Magic Circuits: 20 HQ circuits... Well, those won't stay relevant for long – for reasons that will become apparent later.
Basic Training: And to think, in most other jumps this would be one hell of a perk.
Demi-Servant- 500: The concept utterly fascinated me ever since I saw that one Rin picture. And well - possession is still such an unresolved topic in fiction.
Power of the Tsun: Well, that's just ripe for abuse.
This is My Absolute Territory: I... Never actually considered this angle. Being comfortable no matter what is also important, hm.
The Family Art x1.5 (Alchemy)- 200: Who knew how easy it is to influence my choices with but one throwaway line in a capstone?
Average One- 300: The knowledge, the power, the control... What more to wish for?
Sorcerer's Apprentice (The First)- 500: ...I am not actually sure why I am taking this one. The potential, perhaps? Or is it the hope permeating the very concept - Denial of Nothingness? Time will tell.
Voice of the Lorelei- 200: Hello darkness my old friend...
Bonds of Fate- 600: Such a wonderful Creation skill... And the item thing is so useful, you have no idea.
Mythical Visage- 200: Much obliged!~
Dragonheart- 300: 3000 Blue Blood circuits. And the one day regen. Ooooof.

A Special Ruby: Reusable trump card of Rin's? That's pretty nice, remembering what she could do with that.
Tools of the Trade- 100: Alchemy. Hm, I wonder what I'd be able to do in a year...?
Majutsu Kokuin: Of a free variety, but that's no problem.

Servant: Hm, whom should I pick? Scathach is unavailable... Nero? Tamamo? I hear Musashi is a good Ser- He is a girl. Why is he a girl?

(TBC)

>>51041252
So, you're gun is a Vagetta?

>>51040523
>>51041290
Worm Slut- 100: So if I don't have sex, my effectiveness is lessened to the point of crippling... Wait. What changed?
Sealing Designation- 200: Over the course of ten years? Was going to happen regardless.
Servant Override- 200: As with the Servant, will probably wait until the supplement to pick.
Centre Stage- 300: Ah, glorious battle. Let us grow through struggle
Grail Campaign- 300: Let us... Grow... Through struggle?
Class War- 300: Well then. That presents... A problem. Then again, I can always just swipe the Seals and order everyone to suicide, even if with a bitter taste in my mouth. Yay for immoral decisions!~
JUMPER- 600: Hm. I mean, it's not hopeless - right off, I can see at least two ways of doing this. But everything that happens there will depend on where in the chain this ends up being.

~~~

In a nutshell? Thank you, Valeria. A journey to truly struggle and grow strong in. Reminded me of how I first read F/SN, knowing NOTHING about the franchise. One of the best reads of my life.

>>51040829
Ranged weapons are for cowards.

>>51035847
Not sure if you're here or not, but what exactly do you mean by "potato it" when we were talking about alt-chains?

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>>51041302
>Worm Slut- 100: So if I don't have sex, my effectiveness is lessened to the point of crippling... Wait. What changed?
>Sealing Designation- 200: Over the course of ten years? Was going to happen regardless.
>Servant Override- 200: As with the Servant, will probably wait until the supplement to pick.
>Centre Stage- 300: Ah, glorious battle. Let us grow through struggle
>Grail Campaign- 300: Let us... Grow... Through struggle?
>Class War- 300: Well then. That presents... A problem. Then again, I can always just swipe the Seals and order everyone to suicide, even if with a bitter taste in my mouth. Yay for immoral decisions!~
>JUMPER- 600: Hm. I mean, it's not hopeless - right off, I can see at least two ways of doing this. But everything that happens there will depend on where in the chain this ends up being.
Madam, you have giant brass balls.

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>>51040829
The same way I like my women: big, loud, and hard hitting.

>>51041333
Not that anon, but: It's an old in-joke around here. A long time ago someone posted a document labeled as a "Multiplayer Supplement" that was really a recipe for potato casserole (pretty good one, too, I actually tried it). So we now refer to jumps with multiple jumpers interacting with each other as "potato mode".

>>51041389
It's still on the Drive in the supplements folder.

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>>51041294
It's a V-2 rocket launched from an extra-dimensional space. It doesn't have to come from up my skirt, it's just funnier that way.

>>51041302
Geeze Annette, that's really going full tilt.

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>>51041337
At a certain point, I realised that I have at least five perks that make me stronger the more ridiculous my opposition gets. And another bunch that add the defeated opponents' strength to my own.

And while the latter are unapplicable in this case, drawbacks that give you more opposition become actually something to be desired, as compared to flaws that cripple YOU, specifically.

And to think, I am primarily charisma build.

>>51041446
>I realised that I have at least five perks that make me stronger the more ridiculous my opposition gets
Which ones?

>>51041446
>I have at least five perks that make me stronger the more ridiculous my opposition gets.
If JUMPER has those too, that makes for a hilarious feedback loop.

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>>51041302
Dear god.

Good luck, Annette. Fight well.

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>>51039781
That image is amazing

>>51040298
Don't bring America into this man. This shit disgusts me.

>>51040829
>Using Guns
Why Tho?

>>51041290
>Dragonheart- 300: 3000 Blue Blood circuits.
It doesn't actually do that, tho.

>>51041057
Either I'm going for complete stealth so no one knows I'm there, or I am acting like a saint to find out who the assholes who would attack a random person are.

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>>51039620
100 cp - Doctor Evil
Being an origin that basis itself around science, you should obviously have some degrees. For that reason, you now have a degree in genetics and engineering, valid in all future jumps. Beyond that, while it’s not an actual degree, you also have a good working knowledge on how the two combine, the art of cybernetics and cyborg.

200 cp - Willing Accomplice
How exactly you entered into business with Shocker is important. Maybe they kidnaped you off the street, or threatened to hurt a loved one. But, in your case, neither of those was necessary. You joined voluntarily, and because of that, you have a measure of their trust. This allows you a bit of leeway in your actions, a few ‘missing’ pieces of equipment, a botched mission or two, that kind of thing. This also extends to any other organization you join - or, at least, the less reputable ones.

400 cp - Monster Making Master
You know how the science behind many of Shockers transformative procedures, ranging from making Combatmen, to Shocker Riders, to Kaijin. However, your knowledge is strictly that of R&D. While you are excellent at making and eventually improving these technologies, you have next to no actual experience with using them.

600 cp - Remodeled Human
Ah, remember those procedures I mentioned just a moment ago? You now have a free pass to undergo one of them. Bar the Shocker Rider one, of course. Now, these procedures are rather painful at the current time, but if you were willing to wait, I’m sure a less painful method could be devised. Perhaps one involving nanobots? Additionally, the longer you wait, the stronger a transformation you will receive, due to technologies march.

So. Scientist tree. How'd I do?

>>51041552
Hi, Heavens! Got a question about Kabuto:
Is the Worm capstone's Hyper Clock Up also capable of weird time shit, or is that Lord of Speed-only? Also, does Worm and Zecter's Clock Ups stack?

>>51039126
Technically also leaves super-1, stronger, and the rest as well.

>>51041716
No, we have jumps for Showa-era, too.

So how do most "scaling" weapons work? Is it assumed that they can kill beings on your level as easily as its base could kill its intended opponents?

>>51041642
Looks good to me.

>>51041716
Showa Part 1 and 2 are pretty much all the Showa-era Riders.

Why no J's huge, Kamen Jumper. Why.

>>51041389
>>51041417
Oh, I saw that! But I failed to make the connection.

But well, I suppose in this hypothetical alt-chain I'd give them a means to communicate. (Then again I headcanon that my jumper can communicate with other jumpers through a Hero BBS thing that filters out charisma perks)

And I have a question, *Everyone groans* so I have a 1up from Mario + 4th Verse from Fates, which means that I could do the more powerful effects. I'd still die, but I'd come back because of the 1up.

What I'm wondering is how Vash the Stampede would really take me using the 4th Verse. Is it technically a suicide if I come back to life?

>>51041671
I don't think we see any of the Worm time travel, so I doubt the temporal bit of Lord of the Speed applies to them. There's no hard 'no' on that, though, last I checked.

That second question is a bit harder to answer. Clock Up is implied to be both velocity and time fuckery at work. I don't know if stacking them would do anything in the long run.

Basically, you're going to fanwank, but my personal lean on both of these is a soft 'no'. Maybe with some tinkering?

>>51041514
Let's see, from what I can remember off hand...

"What Doesn't Kill Me" from Virtual World - the more you hurt me, the deeper your grave gets.

Exp system from Disgaea - the stronger my opponent, the better the payoff, even if I get beaten and run.

EVO - the more I live, the more I survive, the MORE I become. Evolution.

Dormant Power from SMT - arguable, but worth mentioning.

Juggernaut from Sports - the longer I fight, the better I get. And I am SURE there was something else like this in the chain.

Various perks that let me learn from my opponent (like Copycat from Ranma, or Wuxia Adaptability). And then, if you consider the Time Bleed effect that may or may not end up happening... The battle with ANNETTE might just be the most enlightening teaching session of my entire life.

And then there are the charisma perks of course... The more we fight, the less reason you have to fight me. Which is plan A, incidentally - to survive until consensus. So that might work.

If there is one thing I, and hopefully by extension ANNETTE, would never do, is talk someone into suicide. So here's to not being talked into shoving myself onto the sword.

>>51041543
Aye. Although, I imagine fighting the same enemy over and over again would lessen the gains.

>>51041552
Thank you kindly.

I will have no other choice, will I?~

>>51041592
You're quite right. Dragonheart is not actually 3000 circuits, just equal to the amount. Much appreciated. 20 Blue circuits it is, then! Still pretty great, in comparison to most.

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>>51041913
>going to fanwank
Going to have to fanwank, I mean.

Typos make me sound even meaner than I actually am. I apologize for that. Also!

Your Soft Smile [100, Free for Gentle Soul] - It’s just the way your smile is, Jumper. Whenever you look happy or are enjoying yourself, you have a warm radiance around you that is almost contagious. This has a soothing effect on those around you, and will make others feel just a little more at ease or that all's right with the world. This has a minor effect on strangers, and a much stronger one on those who care about you.

>>51040026
Sounds like someone didn't invest in Social Links.

>>51041914
>The more we fight, the less reason you have to fight me
Yeah, but won't this also apply to your JUMPER?

Jumpers, how will you handle when you finally go home (assuming you do), and reunite with friends and family, whom you've now not seen in thousands of years, and knew for a tiny fraction of your life (especially compared to your companions), while they never knew you left.

>>51041444
In the end, we are here for the journey, are we not? Simple victory does not a journey make.

I mean, I didn't take the Black drawback. THAT would've been suicide.

>>51040522
The ones you buy with CP give you an unlimited supply, though.

>>51041932
Just reading that perk makes me happy. I assume it's based on Madoka?

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>>51042000
Yup, yup. Gentle Soul is all Madoka.

>>51041960
See spoiler. According to the drawback phrasing, I can still talk her into peaceful resolution. Hopefully meaning she is not so far gone so as to just talk me into dying. So that's a plus.

>>51041963
Fake my death, take over the world.

>>51042035
Madoka is cute! CUTE! Which is why I'm coming back post-spark and using one of those Grail wishes so that she can have the happy ending she deserves, rather then having to fight an eternal war against witches. She can keep being Madokami, I'm just letting her interact with others again and have a peaceful life.

>>51041988
Yeah, but any crafting-focused jumper worth their salt has the material science perks to make their own after studying a sample.

>>51042071
Keep an eye on the document once I release the jump. You might like what you find.

>>51032669
Would mental super speed (like from Symbiote) let me search the Library faster? And would multitasking perks let me run multiple searches at once?

>>51042071
>using one of those Grail Wishes
What a waste of a perfectly good wish.

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>>51041963
Nah, we're going back to the home we most fondly remember.

>>51042103
Hype levels are off the charts right now, you magnificent bastard.

>>51041963
I think I'll handle it pretty well, especially since I have a list of stuff to do. Fix my mother's brain aneurysm problem, cure my niece's blindness, destroy all traces of cancer or other serious diseases, heal the blind, crippled, etc, bring world peace, end hunger as a world wide problem, advance local tech while making sure it's not used for evil, introduce my kids, wife, and companions to my family, and give certain people Kamen Rider belts and the Force. To expand on that last bit, establish a league of Kamen Riders that use the light side of the Force and fight to protect the smiles of the innocent, serving as fangs for the fangless. I'll give them lightsaber training as well.

>>51041727
>>51041816


Sure but only as much as the jumps only actually details rider-amazon and part 2 covers black and the movies.

That's like saying Kamen Rider Hesei part 1 covers Kabuto and the jump should not be approved.

>>51041816

Because I hate fun.

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>>51042111
Pic related.

>>51042271
No, the first one has Skyrider, Stronger, and Super-1 in there. Read it again.

>>51040939
Paladin is mentioned to get a horse, would that mean they get the item in the divine section for free? Also what happens if you use Arcane & Divine magic?

>>51042306
By the way, does anyone have an actual picture of this? I've seen it here before, but I spent 15 minutes looking for that, and ended up cropping it out a fake phone text meme for the Fgo Illya event.

>>51042313
Maybe you should reread it, it covers time wise, not option wise.

>>51042341
Most Paladins have to earn their horse, while buying it lets you start out with it.

Nothing? Unless you mean at the same time, in which case the Divine magic flickers out. Though IIRC there's a spell that lets you use your Divine Magic to provide more power for your Arcane magic.

>>51042306
Exactly. There are countless others scattered across the worlds who share a similar fate... soooo why waste such a powerful wish on someone whose circumstances aren't even that bad (relatively speaking). It just comes across as the actions of one who cares less about people and more about remedying their own negative emotions.

It's just about the worst thing you could do with a wish of such magnitude, when there are more lasting ways to go about the same end. Don't be Sayaka, anon.

>>51042381
Huh. You're right. That's odd, it used to have options for them. Kamen Rider Stronger was directly referenced in the capstone for Shocker Riders, for example. What happened?

>>51042301
I was reading the Kamen Wiki to learn more about Riderman and how the Bionic Arm works. Do you get the version of the Arm from the series or the Manga? If you can get the version from the Manga, how does this "Cassette Arms" work?

>>51042420
They earned their own damn wish they can do whatever they want with it

>>51042403
Like if I use Divine magic to buff myself, then cast a fireball to soften a target up or teleport myself. Would said buffs shatter? What if an enemy Mage throws fireball, does that mean my buff spells are gone?

>>51042420
What part of EVERYONE is confusing to you?

>>51042306
Uh, you're talking about using the wish to make one person happy, not everyone. That picture isn't related.

>>51042306
>>51042420
All wishes are ultimately based on self-satisfaction since you're enforcing your view of how the world should be upon everyone else. You're wishing for everyone to be happy not because of some altruistic desire for peace but because their unhappiness makes you uncomfortable. As a consequence you're much better off making a completely selfish wish that will make you happy.

>>51042486
Sure. That doesn't mean it's not a waste, though. It'd be like wishing to put out one specific fire in an area with a high fire risk.

>>51042584
Nothing. What part of EVERYONE is confusing to you? The context of their post was clearly in reference to making a SINGLE person happy, in an utter waste of a wish.

>>51042301
Will you add a ZX related perk when you uptade it?

>>51042111
>>51042614
>>51042420
>nofunallowed.jpg

>>51042071
>grail wishes
Those things are tainted, desu. You use that for her and she'll be more fucked than she was in the series.

>>51042534
I... don't /believe/ so. Most of the interactions we've seen are along the lines of "I cast Divine Shield" vs "I cast Arcane Fireball". Arcane Fireball takes out Divine shield. That being said, the Demonic Form from Possession flickers out simply on contact with a powerful Dryad, and when someone starts up a bunch of Arcane enchanting devices, it starts wreaking havoc on a bunch of divine shields simply through proximity. So... maybe? Depends on the targeting, probably.

For example: Pretty sure that casting Divine Buff then Fireball works fine (Since the buff is on yourself, while the arcane energy is going into the air to make the fireball), but Divine Buff + Teleport will probably lose the buff (since both are on you), and if someone fireballs you while you have a divine buff on, you're probably going to lose it (since the arcane energy of the fireball is going to smash into the divine energy of your buffs when the fireball smashes into your body). I'm not actually sure though, I'll have to reread and double check, and it's kinda long.

>>51042653
Nope. Well, if you use the one from Stay Night, then yeah, but as of right now you can still use the one from Extra and pick 1st/2nd/3rd in the general fate jump to get another.

>>51042600
"Selfish" wishes are ultimately better for everyone.

>>51042653
This >>51042671.

>>51040939
Everything seems balanced. Neat jump.

>>51042600
I want philosophy students to go and stay go.

>>51039168
>Since the shape honestly becomes aesthetic and irrelevant to the function once you've used the perk

So... does that mean if I changed a longsword into a rapier, it wouldn't be any pointier or stabbier?

Is the protag of FGO a valid choice of master in Extra?

>>51042737
I'm sorry that you can't use reason to explore ideas, actions, and agency with intellectual honesty, anon. I'm sure that whatever platitudes you keep in your back pocket will work just fine.

>>51042812
I'm sorry, it's just that I've heard that
>it's impossible to not be selfish
shit a hundred times, and sure, it's technically correct.
But altruism is about actions over thoughts and emotions, anon.
>intellectual honesty,
How about this for intellectual honesty? As far as any human can prove, \tThe universe is deterministic. Therefore you, I, and every other anon on this board are just machines made meat, merely reacting to our environment in complex ways.
Which means free will doesn't exist, and so neither can selfishness or selflessness, since either would require a being capable of making a decision free from tethers of deterministic reality.

>>51042805
Why would he be? Fujimaru Ritsuka is confirmed to be in his own universe branch.

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>>51042800
I mean that the shape won't really effect how useful it is as a weapon. Plutia hits people with a stuffed animal, PB just hits it on her guitar, Uzume yells through her phone, and Famitsu surfs a giant lobster, and they're all (mostly) equally effective at punching you in the face.

>>51040939
>>51042659
So, that Archdemon from Possessed, can you talk to it without letting it take control?

Also, can you give it partial control, like, only allowing it to use a bodypart?

Does have an archdemon possessing me do anything to help with controlling a Reliquary's demon?

...Can you do more than Shadow Jumping with the Shadow Magic granted by Shadow Jumper’s Trinket?

>>51043020
So it basically applies contact damage? There's no effective difference between hitting someone with the flat of the sword vs the edge?

Exactly what are the Barons of Moves Like This? Are they Psykers?

>>51043032
Yes.

Not that I'm aware of.

... Yes, actually, in that the archdemon's basically the princess. The problem's that demons are pretty much hardwired to be assholes. They're physically incapable of /not/ being jerks, it drives them crazy.

We haven't seen shadow magic used for anything beyond Shadow Jumping, but if something else shows up that Shadow Magic can do, then yes, it'll grant access to those skills. It's worth noting that Shadow Jumping is mainly used instead of teleporting by a group whose whole shtick is that they're so good at stealth that even gods can't detect their side, so I'm assuming it's still useful.

>>51043069
Yes. The point of the perk is basically to let you use stupid and impractical weapons without actually making you worse at combat.

...How bad of a plan would it be to use tsukihime's RM option to pick up type mercuries RM?

What perks do I need to convince Sage in Hero BBS to let me be his apprentice?

>>51043105
Honestly? You could probably just ask him. Sage is a pretty chill guy.