Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1267: Path of Heavens Edition

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>>51030529

Oh, hey guys.

I wanted to update y'all on the Gaim jump!

At the rate we're going we should be done by

>>51030529
This thread feels smug.

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>>51030542
right now.

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>>51030542
>>51030550

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Tell me about your homerules and altchains.

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>>51030550
So, any chance I can get a timeline of when all these Kamen Rider jumps occur, chronologically? I want to know what order to do them in.

Bancho, have you ever actually watched Static Shock? Because I have and I've never seen you actually okay a power even though a lot of them were pretty clearly below par for the series.

>>51030406
>Seriously what's the deal with all the fruits? Are they like, reverse engineered from the alien world-eating forest or something?
Pretty much. Helheim plants naturally create fruit that serves as a repository for its spores. Eat one (and they have some hypnotic effect coercing you into eating them), and you turn into a monster. That's one of the ways it spreads. The Yggdrasil Corporation, specifically Dr. Ryoma Sengoku, figured out how to reprogram the fruits into making useful tools. Helheim spores are kind of like nanomachines, so it makes sense. If you're wearing a Sengoku Driver, not only are you immune to Helheim infection but any fruit you pick is converted into a Lockseed. Depending on the quality of the fruit you picked, the Lockseed will either be able to generate Rider weapons and armor for you, or just infuse you with the energy it's stored. This means that while Lockseeds can be harvested, they're not random. You can't go and discover a new species of Lockseed, the ones that can be picked are just those that Ryoma has programmed into the system. It does appear to be random which fruit turns into which Lockseed, though, or at least dependent on some non-obvious variable. There are also "Energy Lockseeds", which are completely artificial ones that he's cultivated in the lab instead of relying on Helheim plants to produce the fruits for. They're more powerful. Finally, DJ Sagara, as avatar of the forest, is able to create Lockseeds on his own, out of either normal fruit or Helheim fruit. A normal orange became the powerful Kachidoki Arms, which was Gaim's penultimate form, while the same process with a piece of the unique Fruit of Life produced Kiwami Arms, Gaim's final form. Oh, and if you eat the whole Fruit of Life you gain godhood. Those people who survive the transformation into a Helheim organism with their consciousness intact are supposed to war over the Fruit of Life and the power it contains.

>>51030547
Digger wanted me to call it that, I wanted to call it something along the title of "Dancing to Kekkai Sensen ED" edition but whatever.

>>51030529
>Path of Heavens Edition
Does that mean we have to lay moons now?

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New and improved, the Realta Nua edition of Fate Stay Night jump has been completed.

Might still be changed a bit from feedback in these threads but it's now jumpable in full. The Supplement will be coming out soon and then Fate/Zero.

>>51030579
Showa 1 2, Heisei 1, kabuto, Ryuki, Neo heisei 1, 2, gaim, Neo heisei 3

>>51030550
H-he's fast!

>>51030542
>>51030550
I don't know, seems a bit fruity to me.

>>51030616

We used clock up to write, obviously.

>>51030579
Kamen Rider Showa Part 1 is 1979 to 1987. Shoaw part 2 is 1987 to 1993. Heisei part 1 is 2001 to 2002. Kabuto is 2006. Neo-Heisei Part 1 is 2010 to 2012. Part 2 is 2012 to 2014. Gaim is 2015. Neo-Heisei Part 3 is 2015 to now. There are gaps in there because not all of the Kamen Rider series have been made into jumps yet.

Should I just... find something else to do while thread goes through a KR craze?

Because this ain't my jam.

>>51030605
What sorcery is this?! Gaim AND Fate? This must be the work of an ally Stand!

>>51030605
Did you ever get your space bar fixed?

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Anti Magic perks are (somewhat) common, but what about anti-psychic perks? I don't like the idea of having my head exploded by some coked up psychic/mentalist asshole.

>>51030542
>>51030550
I wish Lemon wasn't already taken desu. It's my favorite fruit. I think they have lime, apples, strawberries and cherries too right?

Maybe I can be a tomato-themed vampire.

>>51030550
This is our stage now.

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>>51030406
>Also name me a better outfit that doesn't look like a repainted diving suit and bike helmet. Go on. I dare you

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>>51030632
It is very fruity

>>51030643
I guess? Or you could get into Fate, since that's also done apparently.

>>51030605
Changelog from the WIP?

>>51030651
You can get one in one of the star wars jumps.
I think it was the original trilogy, but I'm not too sure.
There's also Blank in Imperium of man, but that stops you from stacking even more psyker goodness.

>>51030653

Lemon ENERGY is.
It's never shown if there's a non-Energy Lemon so you could fanwank it. Lime I'm not sure. Apples and Cherries are either movie lockseeds or also Energy.
Ichigo is definitely set though.

>>51030650
It seems to have fixed itself somehow

>>51030672
Uh...the stuff that was uncomplete is now complete? The last WIP I posted in thread was pretty old so most of the jump probably.

>>51030677
Energy and movies count, they still get a suit themed after the fruit so it's covered.

>>51030677
Wasn't there a Lemon Lockseed in one of the Gaiden Movies?

>>51030653
The Energy Lockseeds are Lemon, Cherry, Peach and Melon. Regular Lockseeds are Orange, Banana, Strawberry, Grape, Mango, Pineapple, Durian, Melon (there's an Energy and normal version), Watermelon, Kiwi, Acorn, Walnut, and Pinecone, of all things. The movies include an Apple regular Lockseed and Dragonfruit and Pinecone (again, what?) Energy Lockseeds

>>51030550
It is time for Kamen Rider Shoujo to taste the forbidden fruits.

... Wow that sounds lewd, but it's probably just me.

>>51030605
Consuming Lockseeds to gain their powers for yourself? Oh, that's cool, I think I might have to take Will of the Forest.

>>51030700
So yeah, they're all covered, all the fruits I like.

That's why I'm a tomato.

What would be a good low power setting for early companions? Waifus preferred. . .

>>51030727
You could do non-Energy versions of Lemon or Cherry, if Melon can have both versions so can those. You could fit them in without having to copy someone else's suit.

>>51030550
>Stab Proof Spine
Heavens, you're not supposed to put things in a jump that have no basis in the canon.

Nah, just being silly. That's actually a pretty great perk. Takatora wishes he had that.

>>51030727
Energy Apple?

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>>51030550
Digger and Heavens, I both love and hate you. So much Kamen Rider to watch now.

>>51030700
So Passion fruit isn't taken?
Excellent.

Good God, Core Medals, Cosmic Switches, Fruit, and Drive in one belt? That's going to look so weird.

>>51030740
Disney Princess, Kancolle, Strike Witches, any of the "Real-life but focused on" jumps.

>>51030690
Good to hear.

Eh, just out of curiosity, could your Reality Marble be something more on the level of Ionioi Hetairoi in exchange for having no experience with it?

>>51030542
>>51030550
Quick question about Neo Heisei part 3 before I forget.
If we buy hyper slow down without being a roidmude does it still work?

>>51030743
See >>51030693 >>51030763

Too similar, the fruit and suit are already covered, different term or not.

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>>51030563
> altchains
I have an altchain wherein I pick up all the super edgy perks and murder everything in the chain. Y'know, Skullheart, Row Row Row Your Boat, the whole bit.
Second stop on the tour was Floweytale.
But I bought a Return for the Warehouse, so eventually Pokemon also got axed.

It brings about unique challenges, like, "I don't think I can actually murder everything in this setting? This setting is kindof bullshit."
And I don't post it in the thread, because every single jump would boil down to "and then I reloaded and started murdering everyone".
And it's mostly pretty boring, to be honest.
But it makes a great antagonist for my main chain's one-jump-until-endgame Renegade Jumper.

Though, I don't post any of it in the thread because, again, it would be super boring. It's basically just, "I fucked around a lot until I got bored and then reloaded and murdered everything."

I am a great partner.

>>51030355
>>51030313
I think I'm somewhere between Ryuko and Shadow the Hedgehog in personality. Though I often come across as somewhere between Casual Fuck and American Kirby.

>>51030651
The Helm of Xorn + Brains combo in original Marvel jump grants you immunity to mind control, I think.
Also, getting Royal Fuschia blood in Sburb grants you superlative resistance against psionics across the board.

>>51030788

it's in the notes, any roidmude biology-based perks can be taken as either summonable armor bits or cybernetics
So yeah

>>51030605
Does Dragon Heart limit your output to the number of Circuits you have the way the Mud does or does it actually count as having 3000 Circuits?

>>51030704
God damn it no.

>>51030782
Oh, Mobile Suit Gundam if you're into crazies. G-Gundam if you like crazy martial arts. Build Fighters too.

>>51030810
Thanks. I should have read the notes more carefully.

>>51030550
>A week.
>Two or three days.

Tell me your secrets.

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>>51030704
Very

>>51030785
I'll have to say no. The experience part really varies in value depending on what you're looking for. You could probably have something a fair bit more powerful if the effect is more static instead of growing like say, UBW, but it's not going to be boosting you from an A++ Reality Marble to an EX ranked one.

>>51030812
Counts as having. Mud grows over time so you'll eventually be able to use all those circuits/the equivalent of such. Should be done within a few years, maybe a bit less if you're using magic often.

>>51030826
Certian name fags can produce good jumps at a stupid rate, Batman anon for example made some things really fucking fast.

>>51030550

Bodacious Boysenberries

>>51030550
First person to make a build for this where they're referred to as "Dr. Warren Statesman" gets a cookie.

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>>51030826
Digger and I make a good team. Also, about a third of the jump was already done in Merchant's original WIP - we just added more fluff and filled in the blanks.
>>51030605
I'll make a build for this in a bit.

>>51030826
>>51030852
approximately 4-5 hours actually
we only started work proper today

>>51030843
Fair enough.

Jump looks great, by the way.

>>51030550
Waiting for a blueberry rider that has inflation as their power.

>>51030878
OK that is the new gold standard for "How the fuck did you finish this so fast?".

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>>51030875
Look forward to it.

>>51030879
Happy to hear.

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Do you ever miss anyone you never took with you on your chain?

I go out of my way to avoid making friends with people I don't intend to companion unless they could benefit me, for this reason. It's painful to say goodbye, even if you'll return eventually.

>>51030605
>servants don't get any CP at all outside of drawbacks
Really? Because that's a hell of a nerf compared to the previous fate jumps.

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>>51030956
You get a free Master companion with 1000CP, which you can use to either make them better or convert to more SP for you and with the much higher drawback limit and the supplement going to offer more drawbacks too, you've got a far higher upper limit on what you can potentially get then past jumps anyway..

Given that the CP stuff is almost all focused on stuff for Masters, it only makes more sense that Servants don't get CP without special options or drawbacks.

>>51030917
>Not having a Power of Friendship perk that lets them stay in your heart even if you're worlds apart
Hue hue hue.

>>51030999
Well I suppose that's one way to do it.
It's still odd that the entire perkline for servants is off limits without drawbacks though.

>>51030999
Can I just say that I adore the pun-names for the perks? Because I do. They're hilarious.

>>51031021
Well, they are optional things and you still get the only important one, the 100cp, for free. Servants already get the whole supplement to themselves so I think it mostly balances out.

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>>51031024
Sweet, glad someone's enjoying them.

>>51031021
Thinking on it, I might add in a bit that you can buy Servant line perks with SP in a bit. Dunno.

>>51030605
Not entirely sure of the exact mechanics behind it and I know it normally requires Fateverse metaphysics or something, but could you theoretically use the Third Magic to host Grail Wars in future jumps or at least let people summon Servants?

It is the Magic responsible for the Grails, right?

>>51031050
That's true.

>>51031077
I was actually just about to suggest that, but I wasn't sure if it would be a good idea since I'm not sure how the new supplement is going to work.

>>51030878
>4-5 hours

...

I think I hate you.Loving the jump, though.

>>51030999
Forced companion shit. Ugh.

Guess I'll have to get them Lip Service then kill them or something.

>>51030605
Spectacular jump. A giant improvement over the original, not that the original was bad.

Only criticisms I have are that the Third and especially First seem a bit weak. The Third making your soul higher-dimensional suggests that it would kind of hard for most settings' magic to even interact with it and the First doesn't really read as being as good as the Fifth or even the Second.

Maybe buff the First and give it something similar to the Entropy issue the Fifth has? It would certainly fit with those two magics being in a different category than the others.

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>>51031078
Theoretically, with it, the Domination perk, bunch more magical knowledge about summoning, rituals and so on, the Grail notes item and a proper location to set things up, along with the Second Magic then yeah, you could make a new Grail and accompanying War.

You could set up Grail Wars with all that within Type Moon jumps but in other settings you wouldn't be able to reach across jumps to summon Servants from the place they're all at. If the settings you're trying to do have some kind of afterlife or place where it's heroes go, then you could still do it probably.

>>51031077
Yo Val, can we transfer CP-as in, just CP rather than trade it for SP-to increase our Servant's budgets for the Servant perks in the jump? They're really neat!

>>51031127
Ooh. Neat.

>>51030605
For the servant mode/demiservant option, can I pump up my build (buying more levels of skills, making an E rank NP a C), or is it new stuff only?

>>51031137
Admit it, anon. You just want to make them fabulous.

>>51031127
You need the Second and the Third to do it? Does that mean you can buy True magic multiple times? You said at the start of the perks that you can't take things multiple times unless they specify it, and Sorcerer's Apprentice doesn't say you can.

>>51031127
If I buy dragonheart as a pseudo servant would it let me recharge magical energy like I had a real body? That's like Jeane's thing inhabiting Lucetia's body right?

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>>51030542
>>51030550
>>51030878
>approximately 4-5 hours actually
>we only started work proper today
What sorcery is this?

>>51031215
HEAVENS IS STILL RECOVERING FROM KABUTO
GOTTA GO FAST!!!!

>>51030605
Demi-Servant/Pseudo-Servant should probably be a bit less expensive. Normally a capstone booster costing 500 cp has some effect besides what it does to capstones, but Demi-Servant's bonus is entirely contingent on whether you've taken it in another jump. Or maybe make it less expensive if you've already been granted points from another jump.

>>51031215
When there is no God or Buddha, there is Kamen Rider.

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>>51031127
>>51031180

>you can use the Spirit of Heroes to initiate a grail war with the notes

oh. oooh boy.

truly the tatkae wa never end

>>51031248
Demi Servant gives you 1000cp or 1000sp.
That's a pretty big deal.

>>51030605
Is there no way to companion a canon Servant other than choosing it as yours?

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>>51031119
Thanks.

The...first seems weak? I'm struggling to see how given it can eventually do anything the others can do save the Fourth. I'm really not seeing what I can buff it too from here, nor why I'd add a flaw like the Ffith has, which is only there because it canonically has that flaw.

The Third is weaker yes but that's how it is in canon. It has a very limited range of effects, though it's quite a strong effect.

>>51031137
Mm, maybe. I'll have a think on that as I do the supplement so I might have a minor update for that stuff.

>>51031156
If you're already a Servant in this jump you wouldn't be buying Demi Servant anyway. As you're a Servant in one jump and a Demi in another, the two builds are separate from each other. You can upgrade the first using the latter, but anything bouht does stack. If you buy C rank Strength in one and D rank Strength in the next, you'll have the equivalent of A rank strength overall.

>>51031180
Read the notes.

>>51031191
It wouldn't let you recharge like you were alive (That will be a option in the supplement however) but if you get some sort of outside source of magical energy to jump start you, like a prana transfer ritual, you'd get a big boost in energy that you gain back.

>>51031248
Most capstone boosters aren't giving an effect this powerful either. If anything, the amount of stuff you get from it in the first jump is likely too much for just 500, so I've decided to have it balance out that way. You get a bit more then what you're really buying the first time, a bit less afterwards.

>>51031262
Only if you haven't taken it in another jump. If you did, then it grants you no points. I addressed that in my post.

>>51031274
You can use a pod I guess. Later jumps will have ways to get multiple Servants from one jump but it doesn't really fit in FSN or FZ so it won't be in them.

>>51031285
>read the notes
Sorry, the others say in it if you can buy it rather than in the notes, and I actually thought you might have made a type in your post meaning you needed all that stuff in addition to the Third, not all that stuff and the Second in addition to the Third.

>>51030550
How bad an idea is making a lockseed from Helheim's fruits?

>>51031285
If a Demiservant has a Dragon Heart, does the 24 hour recharge work?

>>51031349
Oh, yeah, my bad really. I'll add that into the perk description in a bit.

>>51031355
Sure. A Demi Servant already recharges as if they were living, (This is detailed in the supplement along with all the basic abilities and stuff a Servant gets now), but they still get the benefit of Dragonheart if they buy the perk.

God damn these threads move super fast. Its like /pol/ when there's a happening.

>>51031386
Are you joking? This is pretty slow compared to how fast it can get.
We've gone through 5 threads a day before.

>>51030563
I've got a chain where it starts off in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon as an "NPC", which is to say in no way connected to the main story, with the obvious price of not having a companion (and also not being able to take Partnerless). I just feel like it'd be a lot more interesting this way, since it wouldn't just be retreading the story I already know everything about. Aaand it lets me write about someone with almost zero meta-knowledge save for what they pick up during the chain, which is also nice.

There's a few things beyond that, mostly stuff like being able to take Pokemon Trainer as a normal jump, rolling for most jumps and ignoring particularly high-power ones at the start, transferring CP to imported companions, minor stuff.

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>>51030550
>LOCATION
-Zawame City
>ORIGIN
Drop-In
Male, 18yo
>PERKS
-Jailbreaking
-Soccer Star
-Survival Of The Fittest (900cp)
-DJ Jumper (800cp)
-Invesstation (600cp)
-Invesstment (300cp)
-Will Of The Forest (0cp)
>ITEMS
-Sengoku Driver
-Fruits Basket
-Local Medly
-Fruit Crates
-Fruit Of The Underworld
-Go To Hel (-300cp)
>COMPANIONS
-Crew My Own (-500cp)
>DRAWBACKS
-Locked Out The Loop (-400cp)
-Life Of Warring States (-200cp)
-The Strong Live, Weak Die (0cp)

GO GO FRUIT RANGERS! Wait wrong series. Looks like these ten years are going to be interesting with fruit armor, fruit demons, magical fruit forests. My goals is to gather as much power as possible, I'll hand out Fruit Locks like crazy. Monologuing and having to deal with starscream companions is going to be interesting, but nothing I can't handle. Other than handing out fruits, I'm always trying to react to whatever new comes up. I don't know what's going to happen and I'm always the last to know, but that doesn't stop me from trying.

>>51031285
The First honestly doesn't read as being able to eventually do all that. Though I suppose it being more versatile would make sense.

My issue with the Third are that as narrow as it's effects are, it's 'immortality' isn't exactly difficult to negate as written in the jump, and is noticeably worse than in canon.

Also, isn't it implied that the Fourth retroactively removes things from history, since no one knows anything about it and it is implied to have a property of destroying information? Sort of like Balefire in a way.

>>51031354
...?
explain?
That's how it works in canon via Sengoku drivers?

>>51031386
The other day we squeezed 1700 posts into a single thread.

>>51031285
So, lets say I go to extra and buy a bunch of skills at B rank, and a NP at E.

Using the sp gotten from the demiservant perk, can I spend sp to upgrade some of those B rank skills A rank?

Or are they separate? Youve just said that stats complement each other - being multiples of ten is nice, I suppose - but what about pluses?

Also, with two builds, does this mean two EX's, or still just one?

>>51031459
no I mean like instead of it being a Pineapple Lockseed it's a Helheim's fruit Lockseed.

>>51031460
If you want to it's pretty easy to break that record just by getting everyone to roll once a minute and posting random shit.

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>>51031169
Curses, I've been found out

I'm also wondering just what rank of Golden Rule Ancient House of Jumper is.

>>51030550
Drawback: Fruits of the Multiverse, The Fruits of the Past, Urobutcher'd, Life's a Warring State (1500)

Civilian, age 26

Pâtissier (Free)
A Real Fighter (1400)
Make Something Of Yourself (1300)
You're Not A Child (1100)
Put Those Toys Away (900)
Get Some Perspective! (600)
Just Make Do! (300)
Responsibility (Free)
Cafe J (200)
Star Fruit (0)

So some alien fruit salad is basically trying to absorb Earth's energy like Lavos, while bits of it fell off and got kitbashed together into some sorry excuses for technology by not-Cauldron. And there's a bunch of kids who dropkick things while screaming about cakes.

This looks like a job for Salaryman-Man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWKg_E3mWsw

Born to be a pâtissier. Trained in the arts of running businesses in inclement decisions. Armed a dimensional bolthole generator beltbuckle that crams an entire vegan buffet's worth of fruit against his crotch. Salaryman-Man is here to ignore those damn kids, charge up to the forest and spray it with nuclear hellfi-

-hey! Hey, let go Avacyn!

"Can't you just aim a killsat at the forest or something? Why do you have to risk all of us being banished by sneaking up next to the forest? Why are your pockets full of cake?"

You don't understand! The forest is sometimes a dude, I need to be sure he doesnt backflip out of the way! I'm literally perfectly safe, this potato used to be a perfect defense! The cakes are cunningly disguised antimatter charges, enriched with 100% organic free trade cocoa and locally sourced milk!

"Fine. Then I'll fly low near the ground and you can lob them at him"

You're just taking advantage of my relatively powerless state to hug me freely aren't you?

"...maybe"

>>51031493
>You don't understand! The forest is sometimes a dude, I need to be sure he doesnt backflip out of the way! I'm literally perfectly safe, this potato used to be a perfect defense! The cakes are cunningly disguised antimatter charges, enriched with 100% organic free trade cocoa and locally sourced milk!
What.

>>51031452
the First is able to create anything, eventually including concepts or events. That's all described, it's just going to take a while for you to be able to do those stuff.

>Third
It's exactly as it is in canon, or what we have described as it being. I'm just making it clear effects that are directly targeting and attacking your soul could still hurt you. It wouldn't be offered if it was actually True Immortality.

Yes, and that's something you can eventually do with the Fourth once you get to the level of effecting concepts.

>>51031473
No, as I just said, you cannot upgrade stuff from one build with another. They're separate, as I said. I'd say what pluses do should be quite obvious if you're still talking about stats, given they're just increasing those stats.

I'm not sure. I may or may not be removing the one EX limitation. If I don't, then yes, you can have one EX in each build.

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Jump # 152 History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi
Age: 15
Gender: Female
Starting Location: Dojo of Ryozanpaku
Background: Disciple (100)
Bifurcated choices
*Katsujinken
*Sei Ki
*Unarmed
Martial Arts: Shao lin Kung Fu

Perks:
*Etiquette (0)
*Master’s Body (0)
*Stunning (150, Discount)
*Enhanced Ki (150, Discount)

Equipment:
*”Sword” (0)
* Self Help Books (0)
* Resistance suit (400)
*Headquarters (200)

Companions:
*Master –Donfang Bubai (0) Not the actual character, just someone who was inspired by them and took the name as their own… for reasons.
*Import (300)

Drawbacks:
*Fanservice (+100)
*Shadow War (+200)

>>51031543
Does the amount of magical energy we have affect how long we can manifest a Marble?

>>51031550
It’s strange having a master in a jump. It made the jump a bit more difficult too. He or She is doing their best to teach me but it’s a little frustrating for both of us. They keep trying to draw out my true potential and I keep trying to hide it. My sister had a similarly tough time as their disciple but not the extent I did.

So my master took me to Ryozanpaku to help train, they were new at this whole training disciples thing and were friends with Akisame and Ma. In fact the Resistance suit/torture device was made by Akisame.
While we didn’t become residents there we hung around there enough to almost be.

I became friends with Miu and Kenichi. Miu saw me and my sister as like little sisters I guess. I tried to help Kenichi a bit… I tried to get him over his not hitting women thing by illustrating you don’t have to hit or even hurt someone to defeat them.

I made the mistake of letting Shigure see Caliburn (from anima) umm… that got a little weird. I think she fell in love with my sword. She was trying to talk me in to giving it too her (which is surprising because she very rarely talked) I even caught her practicing western broadsword fighting styles. Not surprisingly though she wound up taking on Archer as sort of a disciple. They both love swords a lot.

I also made friends with the rest of the shinpaku alliance, in particular Kisara (she hated me at first because I was younger than her but my chest was bigger than hers) but I sort of beat Shigure to the punch in protecting her from the Walkeries. That was one of the few times I didn’t hold back… but beating up a now defenseless girl and trying to kill an innocent kitten they had it coming.

Anyways I managed to help out defeating Ragnarock, Yami and Yomi. Not sure I changed much

>>51031561
It doesn't really seem to be the case? It's vague and inconsistent but as far as I can gather it's more a matter of experience slowly increasing the time you can have it active over time. I imagine any sort of self experimentation on yourself in relation to it could greatly increase this of course.

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>>51030529

So jumpers, when did you...change?

Was it the perks you'd collected? The time that had passed? The things you've done?

When did you look back and realize you were fundamentally different from the person you were at the start of all this?

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What's your house motto in Westros?
How many dragons did you bring with you?
Are you visiting for business or pleasure?

>>51031600
1st jump. Being mentally healthy, with a healthy body, and being around people who like you will do that.

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>>51031493
Elementary, Mr. Spiral.

>>51031600
>Exaltation
>Giant Bleach logo on the pic
Top quality work.

>>51031611
>How many dragons did you bring with you?

15, because I imported my Retainers from Slice of Life into Inheritance Cycle as my Dragon(s).

>>51031600
Depends on what you mean by "fundamentally different".

>>51031526

>Potato
He did say he did Fruits of the Multiverse
so that Potato lockseed probably WAS a perfect defense.

>>51031611
"Ours is the Fury", because I paid to be Robert and Cersei's trueborn son, and Joff's older brother by a year
..I don't think any? I'd have to check
Bit of both.

>>51031679
>Joff's older brother
Did you eat him? I hope you ate him.

>>51031668
>Potatoes are fruits
Truly this is the darkest timeline.

>>51031600
After stopping from posting on /tg/, going outside, getting laid, and as a result losing my wizard meme magic.

>>51031702
I think they're tuberous roots, actually. Not fruits.

>>51031543
The Third just seems not nearly as generally useful, or even as good within it's own sphere, as the other Magics. It even reads as capping out earlier than the others, at a level when plenty of people in Type-Moon who aren't even top tiers can still fuck you up.


In canon, it literally makes your soul higher dimensional, which would generally make it unreachable by most soul attacks. I understand that the nature of the chain might make offering the real deal unpalatable, but it might be better just not offering it at all.

>>51031679
I hope he suffered an "Accident".

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>>51030563
I'm running one where my first jump was Red v. Blue, and my jumper spends the rest of the chain as an AI, trying to build better and better bodies so that I can actually, you know, feel things, blend in, not get killed by stray EMPS in Sci-Fi jumps. Needless to say, TLoT was a fucking nightmare, but also living the dream thanks to the double-edged sword of squishy organic body after a century or two of robo-me.

>>51031726
Don't you mean Emps?

>>51031741
Not getting killed by the emperor is also a high priority, but he's still corpsing it up on his throne, so not much to worry about there.

(yea, means EMPs)

>>51031600
Doom was where I got bathed in flame and fire and came out a berserker packin' man and a half.
Probably need to at least change that to a functional human being.

>>51031715
The Third does what it's described as doing in canon. I'm not sure why you keep thinking this doesn't make your soul on a higher dimension, given it explicitly makes it so in the description. I don't believe I ever said all soul attacks will always hit you, just that those sorts of attacks can harm you. If you're not controlling some body and thus closer to the world, then even people with soul attacking attacks won't be able to actually hit you without some sort of ability to attack across/through/whatever dimensions.

Yes, it does cap out earlier, but that's because it's doing a lot less. It's got very limited use but you don't need to spend nearly as long to master those limited uses. I'm not going to be expanding it beyond what it can canonically do.

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>>51030605
Looks Great, Val!
>>51030563
My Secondary Jumper is named Kay Rogers, and she isn't allowed to have any Non Scientific abilities (Psychic powers don't count, unless they're reskinned magic like Raildex) until Endgame.
>>51031600
Probably Jump #13: Bloodbourne. Apparently there's only so many times you can get dismembered and only escape because you can dash and some blood vials on you before you start letting go of certain things, especially when you're hopped up on said Old Blood.
>>51031611
"Burn until the sky chars."
One.
Buisness.

>>51031757
Sorry, that was a RvB joke that fell flat.

>>51031698
I don't do cannibalism.

>>51031718
Nah, Mostly it was me smacking sense into him. Usually literally.
He once tried to set my sleeping chambers on fire.
While I was in them.
Asleep.

>>51031611
>What's your house motto in Westros?
"If you're going to fight, fight, don't talk."
>How many dragons did you bring with you?
I AM THE DRAGON!!!
>Are you visiting for business or pleasure?
I chose Dorne soooooooo pleasure? Yes, pleasure.

From Innistrad, The Magic Found In Stories is blue aligned. Would a fire spell from a story about Prometheus cost red mana?

Does the Helvault go in the warehouse? It looks big. Maybe you summon it with mana?

>>51031611
>What's your house motto in Westros?
"Don't tickle a sleeping Giant"

>>51030605
Doesn't Time Travel fall under the purview of both the Second and Fifth magic? The mechanics are different, but it's something worth noting for the Second.

>>51031611
"We have drunk the Soma"
Only if my Alt form counts.
Business.

>>51031879
I know, it's already in there that the Second can eventually accomplish that.

How do I become a love master /jc/?

>>51031611
>What's your house motto in Westros?
Marching separately, striking as one

>How many dragons did you bring with you?
Do MiG-19s and Hinds count? If so, 7.

>Are you visiting for business or pleasure?
My business is pleasure, and my pleasure is to do business.

>>51030563
I have a small altchain going where I only get 600cp a jump, I can't buy perks that cost more than 400cp, and I can only go drop in. Drawbacks are also not allowed.
It's been fun since becoming unquestionably OP is so much harder.

>>51031887
Woops. I'm retarded and misread the text. Thanks for the jump Val.

>>51031611
"Si vis pacem, para bellum "
Only my partner from eragon
Business

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>>51031924
No worries, happy you like it.

How can I draw strength from worship and others' faith in me?

Because I have inadvertently wound up with millions or billions of worshippers.

>>51031957
Asura's Wrath
Okami
And Infernals are all good for that.

Brutus, question about the upcoming SWTOR jump.

Will following the Inquisitor story to the letter end my chain? I know Kallig dies and is revived by his ghosts at one point.

Or would that not be considered an actual death since arguably he didn't really die?

>>51031957
Be an exalt of any type; Infernals and Sidereals have extra stuff to benefit from it in their respective jumps. A few god options like the one in Neptunia come with it as a side benefit too.

>>51031967
>>51031991
Don't Exalts just get slightly increased Essence regen from worship? Or can they get more than that?

>>51031957
Primal Fury

>>51032012
Infernals have a commonly accepted, in this thread no less, Custom Charm that lets them gather Quintessence from prayer.
And it's a significant Essence Regen boost, especially with the canon charm "Temple Self Apotheosis"

>>51032012
Normally they get that and willpower at higher cult levels.
However there's charms to get a lot more out of it and the Sidereals jump lets you get fucktons of ambrosia and quintessense with enough prayer though which is basically protomatter.

>>51032026
Actually, can an Infernal gain benefits from their own Souls worshipping them? Even non-Citizen First Circles?

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>>51031946
Is it possible to include a +0cp for actions to carry over from other jumps/be recognized if you've been to the nasuverse and interacted with characters before or is that going to be restricted to FGO/Carnival Phantasm?

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>>51032016
Primal Rage*

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>>51032062
Shit, forgot to put that one in. There'll be one, though unless you're messing around with dimension jumping, it won't really have any effect from jumps other then Zero.I'll put it in though.

>>51032061
Nope, it only works for beings with their own individual Soul. So Devas/Demons/Souls don't count.

That's why the Primordials created Mortals in the first place, because their 1st Circle Devas couldn't act as prayer batteries.

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>>51031600
A song of Ice and Fire, jump #13. That's when I realized I'm radically different from what i was when i began jumping, 126 years before. Because it was the first time I had realized how far above human i was. The first time i tested myself in battle for fun, I killed a man. Brutally. With his children watching.

Once i rose, covered in blood, frothing at the mouth, i gazed upon their horrified faces. a little girl named alicea and a young boy named rupert. i could see and feel everything they were at that very moment, and ran. disappeared for like- a year. Earthquakes were common. I put up a mirror in the Warehouse and saw how i'd visually changed. sunken eyes, pale face, sharpened teeth. Terrifying.

Then I returned, saw what the children had become, and made their lives better. no more scrounging for food, no more rats, they could live (with their mother) with no worry for anything like that. Also, I made both immortal for good measure.

By the end of the jump I'd brought back my companion from Light of Terra. We've been together ever since.

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So while the Zombie Knight Jump was put on hold because the story was incomplete, the Ark Survival Evolved Jump is done as an apology.

>>51032061
They need to have souls of their own. If you made a custom charm to hand out souls to your first circle creations you could perhaps do it.
Creating souls isn't impossible in exalted although they'd probably need to be humanlike enough for it to work.

>>51032088
Technically even Zero is in a different universe because it ends differently from how FSN describes the Fourth war.

>>51030758
You mean Takatora who after getting betrayed by all his allies at once just happened to survive anyway perfectly fine?

>>51032123
Eh, I just assume that's because FSN was written before Zero/because it was being described by biased/unknowledgeable sources.

>>51032116
>>51032097
Ah, thanks.

>>51031543
Sorry, its just... You're contradicting yourself slightly, and it's confusing me.

So, I can't spend 200 sp on a B skill, and then spend 50 sp using demiservant to make it an A... But apparently I can get a C stat(30), and then use demiservant to buy a D stat(20)...

Which them combines into an A stat(50)?

Or is this just the slight difference in how skills and stats work?

In that case, how do skills combine, if at all?

...Also, does that mean that if I buy an EX stat, and then give that stat a + using demiservant, that the EX would double?

Because that would be fucking awesome.

>>51032136
How is Saber not a knowledgeable source? I mean the battle in the sea of flames with Gilgamesh never happens in Zero.

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>>51032088
Wonderful. Needed something for king arthur shenanigans and now it's here. The one person Arturia never wanted to meet again so dearly after all this time apart. And not dead yet either. Not even Avalon can save you from my trolling ways, my king.

>>51032136
...So if I buy EX HSDW as both a Servant and a Demiservant, how bullshit am I?

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>>51031902
>Do MiG-19s and Hinds count?
I like the way you think. Except for, you know, FUCKING FAGGOT ASS COMMIE SHIT

>>51032215
Well, an EX equals 500, so... 1000? Pretty bullshit at it.

Mind you, pluses would be better, as they add the value to itself. So three pluses would be 2000, which is even better.

>>51032136
Sorry, I know this is going to be a stupid question, but I know just enough about Fate to be confused:

Is the mana transferred to a Servant disproportionate to how much they actually gain? Because even a powerful human mage has 100 circuits, right? But even a Servant with the lowest mana rank has the equivalent of 1000. So shouldn't that take fucking forever to recharge?

>>51032102
Cool. I'm going to get a pet quetzalcoatlus.

>>51032102
Fuck, sleep and a jump I've been looking forward to conflict yet again.

>>51032102
...what even is this?

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>>51032158
I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about the idea that each build is entirely separate.

No, you cannot, as I have explained twice already. It does not combine if you buy C and D into A. C and D stack like any two strength perks would to give you the EFFECT of A. It DOES NOT ACTUALLY GIVE an A rank. It simply gives the EFFECTIVE strength of one, the same as if you bought a perk that gave you 10 ton strength and one that gave you 20 ton strength stacking to give 30 ton strength.

Treat them as SEPARATE builds, like you would separate jump builds. I don't believe this can be clearer.

Skills do not combine. If you already have HSDW A rank and buy it again at A rank, you don't get anymore out of it because you already know and can do everything that A rank gives. The second purchase isn't giving you anything new. It DOES NOT COMBINE.

No, EX stats do not double. As described above, it does not combine, they are SEPARATE. They will stack on top of each other if you buy an EX rank in the same stat twice to come to x1000 human peak but they DO NOT MULTIPLY EACH OTHER BECAUSE THEY ARE SEPARATE.

I'd like to note I'm not angry or anything, or the caps is just to make the important bits very clear

>>51032175
Like I said anon, either just a simple retcon, it being vague or someone misremembering. Maybe she was really referring to the fight just before the grail broke open. Either way, it's a minor thing.

>>51032215
As bullshit as you were with your first build because buying the same knowledge just means you're learning things you already know.

>>51032251
See above and keep in mind that points system only applies to Stats. Yes I'm aware that's not technically true but if you think Nasu has even once stuck to that point system for anything but Stats you're insane or a liar.

>>51032267
ARK is a survival game about dinosaurs and shit. Its a popular early access game. You go around taming dinos by knocking them out, feeding them good food, and then they become your slaves.

>>51032097
And yet, Compass of Celestial Directions: Malfeas says that the surrender oaths have a clause specifically to prevent Essence gain from demons worshipping. So either that was a miscommunication between the writers or there used to be a trick around it that the Primordials could use. Getting demons descended from a different Yozi to worship you, maybe.

>>51030550
Is the only kind of Lockseed that can go into a Sengoku Driver's second slot an Energy? Or could we pull off some combos like Orange + Kiwi?

>>51032281
>As bullshit as you were with your first build because buying the same knowledge just means you're learning things you already know.
It doesn't stack?

Disappointing.

>>51032281
So... weird question.

If we take the 300 cp drawback where Zelretch keeps throwing us into new Wars, but our Servant dies and we lose the war... what happens? The drawback states that we're stuck in that new dimension until we win, but if that's impossible (because our Servant kicked the bucket), are we just... stuck there until the ten years are up? Is he going to drag us to a new war in another year and give us a new servant? Or is he going to drag us to a new war and expect us to win without one?

>>51032263
It's confusing for me too yes. It seems to be that the mana a Servant gains from the bond with their Master is implied to be increased by the Grail, as any Master shouldn't be able to supply their Servant with nearly enough magical energy that is needed.

Basically, if you've got an active, working bond between a master and a servant, you can generally assume the Servant will have enough power to fight normally and use their NP a few times, but not spam it. To do that or really big magic ritual stuff, teams usually find outside sources of magic, like eating souls, drawing from leylines and so on.

>>51032281
Does Womb of Evil apply to any kind of evil magic, or just rituals/summoning? For example, would something like Heylin magic be amplified?

>>51032289
I think Savior did that in a Gaim Gaiden, but he was a weird case since it was some kind of prototype.

>>51032314
As long as all the other Masters and Servants are dead, you still count as the victor. That said, if your Servant dies, they won't respawn until the jump ends and they become a companion so you'll need to do the rest alone. You could try to contract with another Servant in one of the wars but they won't become a companion.

>>51032289

You could do non-Energy as a Mix but it'd probably be less effective than the Energy-utilizing Jinbas in canon, as they were a pretty good boost for Kouta until Kachidoki.
Non-Energy mixes might get you different abilities though. And remember you can get an Energy variant of any lockseed by paying +100 so if you wanted Orange Energy, you got it.

>>51032333
Got it, thank you.

>>51032238
Soviet engineering endure even in Westros, comrade. Plonk peasant behind DShKM and tell him to point, work as good as conscript from motherland.

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>>51032281
>They will stack on top of each other if you buy an EX rank in the same stat twice to come to x1000 human peak
...Is it bad that I want to buy two EX ranks in Endurance, then waste CP on an A++ Noble Phantasm in the form of a loincloth that amplifies my durability, then just stand around in my tighty whities while mocking the other Servants?

>Gil launches weapons
>"COME ON, HIT ME HARDER!"
>"DADDY DIDN'T EVEN FEEL THAT!"

>>51032336
Alright, thank you.

The reason I ask is because I HATE how the Energy Mix armor looks. Like... that's the only reason. Everything else is just butter.

>>51032327
He's why I asked the question, actually.

>>51032102
>Your companions are immediately imported for free with 800 CPand any Origin free.
Why do all your companions get imported with almost jumper level CP for free?

Keeping all the game mechanics needs to be worth more then 300cp with everything it's given.

>>51032362
It sounds very amusing.

>>51032336
Can Will of the Forrest make Energy Lockseeds or is it only for regular Lockseeds?

>>51032315
Okay. Thanks, Val.

>>51032281
Noted. Will do my best to keep that in mind.


>It does not combine if you buy C and D into A.
>It does not combine.
>C and D stack like any two strength perks would to give you the EFFECT of A.
>They stack.
Can you at least understand why I view this as conflicting? D and C does not equal an A... But they also do, for a different reason.


And skills dont - not gonna say combine - ...mesh, at all? Sad, but logical.

>>51032102
>Piercing Blow
>Your attacks always tremendously hurt anything no matter how tough it is
How about no?

>>51032362
What would 1000X human durability even be?

>>51030605
>>51030550
I asked this before, but got told to ask someone who actually knew about the setting.

How would Gaia Memory - both the drive things and the Archive-esqe perk - work inside of nasuverse metaphysics?

>>51032421
I imagine it's in terms of interactions with effects like Berserker's NP. So you might be as strong as someone with A Rank strength, but when you punch him, your attack is treated as C or D rank, and canceled.

>>51032421
No? D(20)+C(30)=A(50)

What's confusing?

>>51032421
Okay. let's try this again.

C and D do not combine to equal A for the purchases of then buying shit as if you already had an A rank. If you buy C rank in one jump, that does not mean you then buy with C rank as your base for free in the second jump.

You get the effects of both combined, so you get the same level of strength that A rank would give, but you do not actually have A rank for any other purpose, such as going straight to buying A+.

Is this understandable?

>>51032287
I figured the Yozis found a loophole somewhere along the line. It's not like there aren't others in the oaths; the Ebon Dragon's obsession with marriage mainly comes from one that would let him be released into Creation, and another is the reason why if an Ecplise Caste swears an oath which a Fiend Caste then breaks, the misfortune botch is transfered to the Dragon himself.

>>51031702
>>51031710
>>51031668
I saw that flowers were being listed among the lockseeds for some reason.

Then I tried to imagine how certain of my perks would be represented as fruit

And then I got very confused. Especially with regards to the Oramus ones.

And that is why I am the proud owner of The Potato From Beyond The World Which Had Yet To Be.

>>51030801
>a great partner

Wait, so-do you actually go full Chara, and piggyback onto some other character to make them do your edgy bidding?

Because that actually sounds kind of neat. Especially for the "this setting is bullshit" kind of settings where you have Jumper and whathisface struggling for control, while engaging in Yoshikage Kira-style loops.

>>51032362
Technically such NPs can manifest as your skin becoming slate-y, like Heracles.

So if you're going to have a loincloth NP, it might as well flap majestically in the wind the harder the hits you tank.

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Jump 17: Super Mario
Origin: Hero (Trade: Medical Doctor). I’m Doctor Nika, fucker.
Setting: 3-D

Perks:
>Super Jump (Free)
>E Gadd! (100 CP)
>Star Spin (100 CP)
>Special Delivery (200 CP)
>No Need To Breathe (200 CP)
So while I'm
>1up (300 CP)
>Emotional Powers (600 CP)

Items:
>Yoshi Mount (100 CP)
I already have a pegasus and I can fly, but a mount that can vore my enemies and weaponize them into eggs is something I gotta have.
Drawbacks:
>Your Princess Is In Another Castle (+200 CP)
>MS-DOS (+200 CP)
>Luigi Time (+200 CP)

Mario time! I ran around the Mario universe, always trying to rescue Peach, but then Mario would show up at the end and do it for me. That's okay. At this point, I don't really care much for glory now. Character development, wooo.

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>>51030605
I'm suddenly reminded that I really want to see Gilgamesh vs. Frisk in full "But it Refused" mode.

As a more general question, for anyone who cares to offer their view, what are the chances of a non-servant living through this as an early jump?

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Soon

Also, anyone have any Superman the Animated Series perks or items they want to see?

>>51032383
Do you think so? I assumed that they were pretty mediocre and that 600CP would be overkill. I'll look over that in the next version and probably change it
>>51032433
Have you ever made a chain?

>>51032102
This has...a lot of issues. It's got some really broken stuff that isn't justified at all by the setting. Why are all the perks so powerful? Why is so much amazing stuff offered for so cheap? Why do all your companions get 800cp for free? Why is there so much hax or fiat level effects?

You really need to look at this again. The fact that you haven't responded to any critique yet isn't a good sign either.

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>>51032473
>>51032436
Um, I'm not sure how the math works out exactly but it does make me think of this lil' guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_shrew

>>51032492
>Shitty responses to feedback
Fuck off Bramastra. No one wants you here.

>>51030605
Can you increase and eventually eliminate the limit to how much power your soul can channel with the Third Magic, sort of like what you can do with Black Grail?

>>51032470
...I think I see where he's coming from. 'd' and 'c' give you a strength of 50, which is what 'a' does, but you keep saying they don't make an 'a'.

Honestly, it just sounds like one big technicality.

>>51032489
Having an option to be a kryptonian would be nice.
A pair of glasses that instantly conceals your identity would be pretty great too.

>>51032489
I can't think of anything besides the obvious Superman 64 drawback.

>>51032492
Is your setting known for having people with conceptual weapon hands?

Is it, instead, more known for being somewhere you can stockpile your own dung, eat fellow players and ride dinosaurs?

If so, this may be a sign you shouldn't offer actual superpowers in your jump. Also, they're called jumps. Chains are the names for collections of builds people make for multiple jumps.

>>51032492
Go away Sakurai

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>>51032510
>no one

>>51032492
Wait, I remember you. You're an SB native.

Why the hell are you trying to get your work accepted here? You must know the generally negative opinion this community has for those from yours who can't take criticism. Why can't you just make jumps for the SB-only drive? This shit ain't a popularity contest.

>>51032473
That's even better.

>"DIE, MONGREL!"
>Flaps majestically

>>51030605
Oh dang this was a nice surprise, I think I'll hold off on jumping it until the servant supplement is updated, but I'm real excited

>>51032480
>>Special Delivery (200 CP)
>>No Need To Breathe (200 CP)
>So while I'm
OKAY sorry, let me edit this

"So while I'm really hard to outright kill, I can still be drowned. This perk takes away that weakness and gets me one step closer to being impossible to kill."

This is what it should say.

>>51032470
The stat's dont combine, the stat VALUES combine?

>>51032528
She's saying you can't use it for pricing purposes. So to raise each tier costs a certain amount (I think it was 50?) and plusses cost more (100?).

So if you have A in one jump, you can't go into the second and say 'my base is A because of this other jump, so I only need to pay for EX or +'s now', because the only thing that matters for the prices is what you have from the jump you are in.

Once you are past making the build, and in the actual jump, then yeah, things stack so you effectively have a higher rank.

>>51032489
First off all, HYPE! Secondly, would it be too much to ask for that airship thing from World's Finest? And maybe a perk for inspiring the kind of loyalty and worship Darkseid does?

>>51032531
Both are included, though the glasses thing is instead a perk that will work with any kind of incredibly flimsy disguise like a mustache.

>>51032543
That is not something I had thought of and is immediately going in, thank you anon.

>>51032489
Lex Luthor tech would be pretty sweet, actually.

>>51032531
How strong are Kryptonians in that series?

>>51032492
Piercing any armor is one thing. Piercing any armor and being able to badly injure any being in what seems like a low or mid powered jump is a bit much. Unless by 'hurt' you meant cause pain.

>>51032608
Really good but not invincible.

>>51032489
I just want Supergirl.

She was in that, right? Been a long time.

>>51032608
Pretty strong and pretty tough, but not nearly as tough or strong as they are in pretty much any other media.

>>51032421
having "Valka" and "Gift of the Thousand Master" and several ranks of "Potential" from Nanoha, does not make you an EX rank in magic power, even if it gives you the functional equivalent.

Likewise, having C rank in a stat from one fate jump, and D rank in a stat from another fate jump means that when all is said and done, you have the effective resources of an A rank from that second jump onwards, but your rank is not A, because it's coming from two perks, and those ranks only take one jump into account (even if your actual abilities exceed them)

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>>51032444
No idea, Kamen Rider is something I have no knowledge on.

>>51032485
Meta knowledge does help a lot. Even knowing Gilgamesh is around is something no one but Kotomine and maybe Zouken is aware of. I'd say that with the stuff you can get along with your Servant, it's possible to survive, especially if you help out the heroes.

Winning is another matter but if you chose your stuff carefully and have a plan, it's still perfectly possible with just what's in this jump.

>>51032524
Not just on it's own no. Your maximum output is whatever your maximum pool of magical energy is outside of the Third Magic. Whether that's measured by how many Magic Circuits you have or something from another magic system/jump is up to you.

>>51032528
AGAIN THEN.

Let's say you buy A rank strength in the first jump. That doesn't mean you can just buy A+ strength for 100SP in the second jump. You need to buy everything up to there to get to A+ in the second jump, making it worth 350SP. They stack as if you had two strength perks from any one of hundreds of other jumps but they do not count as combining for the sake of actual buying stuff.

Having 50 ton strength before you use the Supplement doesn't mean you automatically have A rank strength or whatever and can just buy up from there. How is this such a trial to understand for some people?


>>51032584
Sure, whatever. That seems roughly what I'm trying to tell you but I'm honestly expecting you to still get it wrong by now

>>51032587
This has it.

>>51032608
Like upper street level from what I remember. Upper end is throwing buses and punching other supers through buildings, I think.

>>51032628
She was and she is included.

>>51032606
Also included.

>>51030605
If you took both Central Stage and Black is the New Black then do all 6/7 corrupted servants are going to attack you all at once? And inversely if you only took Black is The New Black are the altered servants going to come after you in more manageable groups of 2 or 3?

Will Corrupted Gilgamesh actually fight seriously?

>>51032444

The Archive perk works by letting you access a pocket dimension with all recorded (Digitally and physically, such as on stone tablets, papyrus, data sticks, etc) information on a planet
I don't think it'd let you mess with whatever at-large things exist in nasueverse? then again i'unno how that shit works.

>>51032642
>Sure, whatever. That seems roughly what I'm trying to tell you but I'm honestly expecting you to still get it wrong by now
No, i'm good.I blame the confusion-fu woven into the fabric of the nasuverse.

>>51032489
>Soon
...How soon?

>>51032489
How will this interact with B:TAS since they both take place in the same universe around the same time frame?

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>>51032473
> Wait, so-do you actually go full Chara, and piggyback onto some other character to make them do your edgy bidding?
Chara is piggybacking on me, and is my only "companion". We have conversations occasionally, though they're pretty nihilistic and awful.
All other companions get murdered. So, y'know, that kindof sucks for the freebies.

About the only interesting thing in this alt!chain are weird quirks or parallels that crop up.
So like, as a quirk, floweytale!Jumper makes a savestate at the start of every jump, so that she can emergency reset the whole thing if needed. But once the jump is over and that universe destroyed, she doesn't save over them. So she's got about a hundred or so unusable savestates, because the worlds they went back to have been deleted.

As a parallel, her partner in PMD was Sylvee (an Eevee), the same as in my main chain. He went turncoat and rallied the world against her, standing up to her like a real hero. The hero he'd always wanted to be.
She laughed in his face.

>>51032656
If you take both then yes, they all come at you at once. If it's just Black is the New Black, then they don't have any coordination at all. They're still all after you but they might arrive all at once or just one at a time or something in between. They'll also be even less able to work together then with Centre Stage so you might even see them get into brief fights (And possibly set those up if you're smart/lucky).

Corrupted Gil will fight with all his power but with even less actual thought then just normal Gil.

>>51032642
So you would need the Third Magic and Black Grail/something else to increase your pool? Isn't the Black Grail just an imitation of the Third anyways?

>>51032642
>>51032669
Sounds like no connection to akasha. Though, I can probably use it to 'steal' all of zel's notes on the second. That'll be fun.

>>51032710

If we /don't/ take Average one, what element will we have? And if the answer's "Choose", how many can we have? And can we have a non-standard one?

Or are elements a fanon thing that I've been infected with?
I honestly don't even remember anymore.

>>51030605
>Want to take max drawbacks
>Don't want to have to kill Saber or Lancer
>Fighting my dobbleganger will likely render humanity extinct
I don't know what to do anymore.

Will convincing the JUMPER to be chill actually be harder than Shirou getting through to Archer?

>>51032730
elements are a real thing. They come in eastern elements and western elements with a few extras

>>51030550
>>51030542

THEY DID IT THE ABSOLUTE MADMEN

>>51030550
>Kamen Rider Neo-Heisei: Gaim - 715
Age: 32-years-old
Origin: Drop-In
Drawbacks: The Fruits of the Past (+0), Life’s A Warring State (+200), Urobutcher’d (+100), Locked Out Of The Loop (+100)
Final Point Count: 1,400 CP

Perks:
-Jailbreaking (Free)
-Soccer Star (Free)
-This Is Your Stage Now!
-Invesstation
-Invesstment
-Will of the Forest

Items & Companions: (+300 Item-Only CP)
-Local Medley (Free)
-Fruits Basket! x1 (Free) - Black Sapote, Lychee
-Go to Hel (-300 Item-Only CP)
-Sengoku Driver (combined with The Promethium Driver)
-A Crew Of My Own (300 CP)

And so it is that The Disaster is now fruity.
What, the lockseeds? Oh those are getting eaten right away, chocolate-pudding-fruit and lychee are delicious. No but, I have a few ideas for Lockseeds that I want to experiment with. Namely, I am getting myself a damn Dragonfruit Lockseed that's not Megahex-borne.

The first one's gotta stay secret though.

KAMEN RIDER SHOUJO IS NOW THE FRUITIEST BASTARD.

>>51032747
How come companions can't take items in showa part one and two?

>>51032738
I plan on glomping her and pretending she's my mom. And groping her.

Which is going to be hilarious, because I have a cadmus clone who (obviously) looks like a teenaged version of me.

It's and entire family of me.

>>51032716
You could just buy more magic circuits to increase the pool but yeah, Black Grail would greatly increase it to because it gives loads of magic.

No, the Black Grail is mostly just Angra Mainyu stuff and a connection to the Grail through which the Black Grail can channel some of the endless magical energy, though it's limited by how much energy the BG can channel at one time, so Sakura could only channel about as much magical energy as she could normally contain at full (Which wasn't much, about equal to Rin's full stores/100 circuits). You don't get that connection but in exchange you get a vast amount of energy and the ability to quickly adjust to using it all.

The imitation of the Third Magic you might be thinking of is the Dress of Heaven, which allows limited, flawed use of the Third.

>>51032730
Up to you, same with origin, but it'll just be one of each and nothing with special powers beyond anyone else's element/origin. I've never seen either thing as very noteworthy, aside from the few exceptions which are better represented as actual perks.

>>51032738
It will be yes, since you're not absorbing years of knowledge from your future self every second like Shirou was. It's not necessarily doable by all jumpers, especially depending on your build, since it is a 600cp drawback. I'd think very carefully about what it entails and how you might beat or survive long enough to talk down the JUMPER before taking it.

>>51032642
Apoligies if this sounds dumb, but does JUMPER get all your abilities, or just the ones from this Jump? I thought it was the first, but this line made me think otherwise.
>Think very carefully before taking it, particularly as he
will have everything you gain in this jump with the CP you have to buy with, but with much, much
more time to master them.

>>51032102
How does the hit point system work? Do you die when it hits 0? Does it stack with other HP bar perks?

>>51032786
Understood, thanks.

>>51032800
He has all your abilities, from this jump and past ones. That note is there to remind people that he is also getting anything you buy in this jump, since there's a bunch of things in it that will get a lot lot stronger over time.

>>51032102
You realise ignoring all the problems people bring up only makes it more certain you'll be rejected?

>>51032815
Thank you.

>>51032786
I'm not really worries about surviving. My companions are collectively much stronger than I am, anyway. Enough so that a few centuries of training probably wouldn't make much of a difference. I'm just worried about the collateral damage a fully prepped, sociopathic version of myself will cause.

What if you have the Hero perk that actually lets you do what Shirou was doing? Does Fiat prevent that from working?

>>51032675
Current plan is about a week for the first draft.

>>51032684
The idea is that S:TAS would be an independent entity. There are no options or anything exclusively related to B:TAS or Justice League in the jump.

I'm also including an option to wall off the continuity of the jump from your future or past DCAU jumps. If the thread thinks it is necessary then rather than removing S:TAS altogether I would just remove the choice and take it totally out of continuity.

I think both B:TAS and S:TAS are great series that both deserve jumps.

Incidentally, it will end before the natural beginning of Justice League anyway.

>>51032838
Yeah, that's one of the few ways the JUMPER drawback is a lot less dangerous, having way stronger companions.

Memory Bleed? It doesn't become any stronger then the perk describes so it won't help much when they have so much time over you.

If you companion Ben in Ben 10, does his Omnitrix gain the restrictions the CP version has?

>>51032855
No I meant you said that's how Shirou talked down Archer, right? By absorbing his memories enough to understand what made him end up like that? Can you use the perk to do the same thing on JUMPER?

How strong would A rank prana burst with EX rank mana be?

>>51032710
So Corrupt Gil won't just pull out Ea and insta kill me and the world, thats good to know.

Okay my basic game plan is that as soon as I arrive I grab Shirou and any other surviving masters and we book it to England before the Alter servants can get their wits about that. In England I go to Clocktower and through whatever means necessary convince Lorelei that if she doesn't get her ass in gear their won't be a humanity left to study/protect, perhaps give Magi samples of my Dragonheart blood in exchange for them actually doing something about the impending doom. Then use whatever I can to get as many friendly High powered people in this setting to set up a base for me and my servant to stay in. I also give Shirou an "I'll make a man out of you speech." I really need him to counter Corrupted Archer and Gilgamesh. Then when the servants inevitably come assuming I actually live I teleport to Angra Mainyu and blow him up before he revives the servants.

Repeat this process as many times as needed in order to survive.

>>51032911
Shirou probably wouldn't survive against a bloodlusted Archer long enough to get any powers. Instead of Archer hanging out at his house being sarcastic he'll be perforating him with swords.

>>51032855
I couldn't just prevent Tokiomi from getting the rare snakeskin to spawn-kill Gilgamesh, right? And take a continuity drawback?

>>51032489
>>51032846
Awesome! Been looking forward to seeing your work on this!

Also, do you have any ideas for how we can incorporate continuity for the Batman and Superman Jumps, since they take place at around the same time? I can't really think of anything thematic that would work.

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>>51032873
Oh, certainly. If you have anything that would negate or make you immune against that sort of effect, JUMPER would have it too, but otherwise that'd work.

>>51032907
I'd imagine you'd be getting at least several times as much of a boost to the impacts and speed when bursting as Saber does.

>>51032911
Well, he will likely use Ea repeatedly and often but it's not something that destroys the world. just the World as in the part of reality around the targeted area.

>>51032945
Yeah, Tokiomi only gets Gil because of the snake thing. You'll get into Zero's jump early enough to stop him summoning Gil easily.

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>>51032976
>>51032846
Alternate universes are a thing in DCAU. Justice Lord jumper drawback if you choose to merge the continuities?

>>51032976
If you use the capstone boosted Deal With The Devil to transfer powers or abilities that can grow, will they still be able to grow or will they be static after being transferred?

>>51032925
You underestimate what jumper training can do to a man.

Your right about Shirou not being much help against Archer, my actual plan was to get Shirou to see, and copy in UBW, all the NPs that Gil and Archer are using in order to boost him up for when the next wave of corrupted servants hit he's worth at least .5 of a servant. I'll protect him from actually dying to the 2 of them, and blood lusted Archer won't really care enough about Shirou to try to kill him first.

>>51033015
Hmm... what would make you immune to that? Would it be something like anti-precog/scrying or more like anti-telepathy?

>>51032846
Could you take a look at this >>51032604?

>>51033042
I'd...huh, it is a bit of a weird one. I'd say that anti-time bullshit/anti-precog is what would work here, since it's not really reading minds.

>>51033053
Good to know, thanks.

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>>51033016
That's a really cool idea. I was probably just going to make it so you can only keep the continuity of one but that is way better.

Though S:TAS had it's own version of Justice Lords.

>>51032604
>>51033047
Sorry I missed that at first. I'm really iffy on the airship since that's a Batman the animated series thing.

As for the inspiring loyalty there is already a perk like that based around the kind of loyalty that Superman inspires.

It's bait, don't fucking feed it.

>>51033105
Don't be stupid. Also find somewhere more appropriate for this. There are plenty of actual help sites.

>>51033105
You ARE a terrible person, by the way.

>>51033109
Mods are on top of things for once.

>>51033016
Merging the continuities could work, but Justice Lord stuff might be more appropriate for Spyro's Justice League jump. Those are pretty cool ideas though KOTOR, thanks!

>>51033099
Do you think that KOTOR's ideas could work?

>>51033023
They can still grow.

I like this general

>>51033099
Nah, don't worry about it, it's cool. Wait, really? I though that fell under S:TAS? Huh. Weird.

Erm, what about a perk or power for something like the Unity or the Preacher? I remember the former could brainwash people into a hivemind, and the latter had a terrifying true form. Maybe something for that?

>>51033162
Again, I don't give a shit about your magical realm.

You know, I just had a though.

All those jumps that say 'or you can pay 50 cp to be any gender'... Does that include /d/?

I mean, there's no way I would actually do so, I have other methods, but the idea just amuses me for some reason.

>>51033237
Usually no. I think there's a few out there that allow it though.
Eclipse Phase comes to mind

>>51033227
What does that even have to do with magical realms?

>>51033237
Almost certainly not, it has to be possible for your species for one.

>>51033248
You could of, course, use shapeshifting to achieve the same effect.

>>51033237
Eh, if you want I guess? I'd really want to just not get into some sort of gender debate on /tg/ of all things. It seems like something that's best left up to the individual and not in the thread.

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>>51033261
>it has to be possible for your species
>he doesn't know

>>51033237
Headcanon it or something.

>>51033269
Yeah, I know, thats why I said 'i have other methods'. I just read 'any' in the jump I was looking at and my mind went to the gutter.

Then I laughed, and decided to share.

>>51033248
...Wait, really?


>>51033290
Yeah, sorry. No intention of starting a debate.

Oh, hey. Question. Demi-servant is supposed to be in zero, right? Will I get boosted capstones in Stay Night for buying it there, or only if I buy it here?

>>51033293
They're not possible for humans. Your genes don't allow it. Malformations are malformations, and don't even function.

>>51033290
If you go Demiservant you still get a free Servant seperate from yourself?

>>51030605
Does Average One work on other settings' magic systems?

>>51033318
The make up new genders for fun in Eclipse Phase.
Being /d/ is tame comparitivly.

>>51033290
Can your Servant buy Pseudo Servant? If so, can they buy 1000 CP perks?

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>>51033160
I definitely think KOTOR's ideas could work. The alternate universe is definitely going in, and I'll almost certainly include a Brave New Jumper Drawback for people that want to play with fire.

Maybe if you lose the Brave New Jumper wins the right to continue your chain?

>>51033202
Nah, even if it's an edge case I really don't want to step on B:TAS's toes.

That whole episode is fucking terrifying. I think a hivemind perk could definitely work.

>>51031600
Second jump was when it hit me, after I got Body Mod. A real life-changer, that one.
Being superhumanly strong will do that to you, I guess.

>>51031611
"Flesh and Steel"
None, but I built a robotic one while I was there.
Pleasure.

>>51033318
It's going to be in each Fate jump yes. You only get the capstone boosted perks if you buy the capstone booster in the same jump, so buying it in SN won't give you boosted capstones in Zero.

>>51033344
Yes.

>>51033351
Yes.

>>51033367
Yes, Pseudo Servant explains that it costs SP so they can buy it. They can buy one of the 1000CP perks if they can afford it.

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>>51030605
Jump ??: Fate/stay Night
Age: 13
Location: Homurahara High School
Origin: Magus Heir [900]
Perks:
Command Seals
Magic Circuits x2 [800]
Student Number Two [700]
Basic Training
Power of the Tsun
This Is My Absolute Territory
Well-Rounded Man [600]
Touch of Dere [500]
Sorcerer's Apprentice - First [0]
Average One - Air [200]
The Family Art [0]

Items:
Special Ruby

Companions:
Servant - [Awaiting Supplement Update]

Drawbacks:
Sealing Designation [200]
Nasuspeak [300]
An Ego Greater Than All The World's Evil [500]

I'll be doing a full writeup once the Servant Supplement update is out. Good thing being an egotistical tsundere jerk is standard fare for Cat Wizard, just dialed up to insufferable Gil levels. Fun for everyone!

This jump update is fantastic and I'm eager to see the other updates.

>>51033393
Alright, cool. Bit of a pain, as I'll have to see zero before finalizing my build for stay though.

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>>51033436
Glad you like it.

Supplement proooobably won't take more then a week. Then again, I'm awful with deadlines.

>>51033393
Okay thanks. And your master/Servant can teach you True Magic, eventually?

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>>51033436
Hey Heavens, if you decide to use that Kyubey drawback idea someone suggested (and if it gives an Incubator form), could it be something like manga Kyubey? Who could pretend to be cute and cuddly, and then turn into pic related?

>>51033458
Eventually, yes.

>>51032102

So far, my biggest compliant is the grammar. This needs some heavy proofreading.

>>51033470
That's still cute doe.

>>51033436
>Sorcerer's Apprentice - First [0]
>Average One - Air [200]

I'm slightly unsure what just happened, but average cost 300, not 200? That or you got the apprentice for free, which is an even bigger 'what'.

>>51030605
Which canon Masters should I companion? I was thinking of getting Shirou and Rin, but who else should I get?

>>51033482
I did the drawbacks together, so the total gained from them was 500. Average One does indeed cost 300, so that's why it became 200 when I went back up to perks.

>>51033492
Whoever you like. My personal favourite Masters are Rin, Zouken and Kirei. Though I like all of them.

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>>51033470
Whoops, I missed this one! My verdict is...'sure, go for it'.

My brain is entering shutdown mode so I will return to lurk mode for now. Aside from a grammatical correction I had to make (Beat Rider 100 perks should be free, not discounted), Gaim should be on the drive as-is shortly.

>>51033492
Medea probably doesn't count, but you should companion her anyway.

>>51033528
Doesn't count as a Master? Then I could just pay the 100 non-Master option, right?

>>51033528
Yeah but you could get her uber douche Master. If you wanted. Dunno why. He's a bit of a douche.

>>51033556
Don't be silly, she's a Servant. And it's no non-master, it's non-supernatural so that doesn't even work as an abuse.

>>51033492
...I'm looking for that pic of illya going 'why are you not wishing for everyone to be happy', but I can't find it.

Honestly, all of the masters bar zouken and keirei - and medea's original master - are prety good.