Aether revolt spoilers

more like desolator made another aether revolt rant video edition

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>>51036264
Hot off the presses, no translation yet.

>>51036570
Scry 1 on upkeep when you cast creature spell, can pay {G} to draw a card

>>51036264
Does nothing when it hits the board, dies to everything, and the effect is an inconvenience at the worst. It's an okay card I guess?

>>51036582
I hope to god this is another cycle. R/W artifact based draw would make me cream my pants

>>51036603
>Does nothing when it hits the board, dies to everything
Yes
>the effect is an inconvenience at the worst
What
Are we talking about the same game here.

>>51036780
He is just fucking stupid. He doesn't understand how fucking powerful it is to be able to deny your opponent an entire main phase where you can do anything and then deny them the chance of blowing up the board with sorceries.

>>51036851
It also stops them casting instants at your end step as an added bonus.

>>51036851
i think ithis will be good if expertises become standard staples

>>51036513

>tfw he really made another video rant
>comment section disabled

>>51036603
It's 1-mana, cards with that low of an investment don't need to both have a power impact AND have that impact immediately.

This card is nice chip damage in any colour, plus has a solid impactful ability for a board heavy deck. The fact its legendary also isnt a big deal because you can just sac it and play the next.

>>51036264
Worse Xantid Swarm that isn't restricted to green.

Could see play in eternal formats, obviously.

NOW WHERE IS MY FUCKING COUNTERSPELL WIZARDS I WANT TO PLAY CONTROL AGAIN NOT THIS FUCKING RETARD MAGIC

THE BLACK REMOVAL WAS A GOOD START NOW FOLLOW UP ALREADY

>>51036851
Except it doesn't deny an entire main phase. There's been a clear trend of shifting effects on creatures in the form of ETB and activated abilities, so playing them isn't a bad idea. The only real effect is that it prevents you from playing instants on enemy player's turn which is inconvenient but not a game breaker either.

And, for even for that to happen it has to connect first - again, an ok card but hardly a game changer.

>>51036851
see
>>51036181

>>51037023
This nothing like xanthid swarm you mong, swarm stops combat tricks and counters, this stops wraths and your opponents ability to go off on a combo deck at sorcery speed. The overlap on what they do is basically nothing.

>>51036570
Pokedex/10 would complete

>>51037029
What are you talking about? It denies your opponent your own second main phase and end step, plus it prevents instant/sorc on their entire next turn.

>>51037029
He meant your own main phase. You know, the one after combat?

>>51037099
Did you read the card, anon? It says "can't cast noncreature spells".

>>51037062
>This is nothing like xanthid swarm you mong
Are you legit braindamaged?

Xantid Swarm's sole purpose is to come down turn 1 in a combo deck, attack your opponent then let you go off on your second main-phase without fear of any counters.

>combat tricks
What the fuck, who plays combat tricks in eternal formats, or in any constructed format.
>counters
This stops counters as well if you choose to go off on your second main.
>Wraths
What wraths are played?


As I said, this is a worse Xantid Swarm that isn't restricted to a color, not sure wether that gives it a good enough niche to be played in eternal formats, but that's the first and most obvious place for this to go.

>>51037112
oh even better

>>51037112
Sure, we'll all play around Mystic Snake, because that's super relevant.

>>51037029
>Hardly a game changer
>Hit opponent
>Sac
>Go off on your combo uncontested and drop creatures without any fear of them getting killed or leaving up mana to protect them
>Opponent basically relies on having activated or etb based removal to deal with your things for their turn.
>Your turn comes again and you have your entire mana pool online to protect your army.

If that isnt game changing then you are fucking stupid.

>>51037023
You literally got cancel with stifle glued to it for no extra mana.

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Everyone shut the fuck up. Hope of Ghirapur will surely see Legacy play and everyone saying it is bad will look like a fucking retard.

Now back to new cardboard.

Heres your decently powered Rares.


"Heroic Intervention"
1G
Instant
Permanents you control gain Hexproof and Indestructible until end of turn.
"Anywhere the strong oppress the weak, I will be there."
- Ajani Goldmane

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Aethersphere Harvester
3
Artifact - Vehicle
Flying

When Aethersphere Harvester enters the battlefield, you get EE (two energy counters.)

Pay E: Aethersphere Harester gains lifelink until end of turn.

Crew 1 (Tap any number of creatures you control with total power 1 or more: This Vehicle becomes an artifact creature until end of turn.)

>>51036264
Not sure what you people are talking about that card is not going to see play in a creature deck, it's way to slow and clunky for that.
Plus against what decks exactly are you going to hit them with this successfully to prevent a wrath?

Maybe this is good enough in affinity, but only because affinity doesn't actually care about the 1/1 and because it is super soft to artifact destruction out of the board.

Otherwise this is strictly a card for combo mirrors in shit like vintage or whatever.

>>51037156
>Hope of Ghirapur will surely see Legacy play and everyone saying it is bad will look like a fucking retard.
Why? Give me a reason why

It's a Xatrid Swarm and Silence in one, but only once. What deck wants that without just preferring Silence or Xatrid Swarm? What does this card offer that swarm doesn't do every turn, or that Silence does without having to attack?

>>51037167
Right they must have looked at smugcopter and said "needs more toughness and lifelink."

>>51037117
Should've articulated myself better, sorry.

This trades uncounterability on every turn other than the one you're going off on for chip damage on those turns. Depending on the deck, and considering this can go in a deck of any colour, that can be relevant. Apart from this it also has real applications outside of eternal formats, that's why it's not just worse even in green. This card can actually see play in standard in a green deck, something that would never happen to xanthid swarm.

So while it may not be better in the eternal combo decks that run xanthid swarm currently, it's certainly better outside of that tiny niche.

>>51037149
Costs 3, is therefore still garbage.

>>51037126
Fine. Okay. Your opponent drops this on turn 1, and swings on his turn 2. You don't block it and he sacs it, resulting in you being unable to cast non-creature spells on your turn 2.
1. Will this break your deck completely?
2. Will this put you back so much that you cannot even hope to come back?

As I said, an okay card but hardly anything to write home about.

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>>51036570
>mfw mono green gets all these gifts

>>51037198
>It has to be dropped on turn 1 and sacced after the first hit

You are really fucking dumb. It pings your opponent every turn and your opponent must make the choice of letting it hit and hope you dont go off on some combo or waste a card on it to avoid the fear of getting comboed out.

You are so close minded you dont even try to play out the card in your brain and see its applications.

Its fucking 1 mana that if your opponent doesnt deal with it in some way its going to bite their ass.

This is why /tg/ is bad at magic, jesus fuck. Braindead.

>>51037215
And it gets completely shut down by an ornithopter. Wow such game changer!

>>51037167

Fantastic, finally an answer to Smuggler's Copter!

real talk, at least the 'Vehicles' deck in Standard will actually have some vehicles in it now

>>51037167

hmm, blocks Smuggles dead before they can get in with it, if you're on the play

>>51037173
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>>51037198
What the fuck is this ranting about having to attack? Have you read the goddamn fucking card?

>>51037291
>Who was dealt damage by Hope of Ghirapur this turn.

>>51037291

glass houses, stones, etc

>>51037215
It depends on what format you're talking about

Standard? Maybe idk, lol standard

Modern? There are already so many more onedrop must-kill creatures. Thopter is one you might have to kill because it might bite you later whilst there are so many onedrops you HAVE to kill as they are already biting you right now

Legacy? Xantrid Swarm does it better for the decks that want the effect.

>>51037291
Damn son that is really embarassing lmao

>>51036603

>Dies to everything.

It's ONE MANA.

There is very little for 1 mana that doesn't meet that qualification.

I thought the /tg/ is bad at magic was just a meme.
Clearly it wasn't the case.

>>51037330
Don't worry, people grossly overestimated Silence as well, calling it a 1 mana Time Walk. It'll pass

>>51037330
I think their problem is that they evaluate the card based on the absolute best scenario where it lets your combo go off uninterrupted, and ignore every other scenario where it's just a dead draw on turn 4. Sounds powerful but is kinda meh in reality.

>>51037324
Dies to everything is relevant in this case because it needs to survive a turn, swing, and hit for its ability to activate. A vanilla 1/1 wouldn't care about surviving, true.

>>51037352

Eh, 1/1 flying for 1 is hardly bad even if you are just looking at the body. Nothing spectacular but not bad.

>>51037374
"Dies to removal" only works if you trade down in mana (your 3 drop dies to a 1 drop), trading equal or up is not a downside

The card is still bad tho

>>51037375
Which is why I said it's an okay card, to begin with.

>>51037195
So by that logic Cryptic Command is like...super garbage then?

>>51037149
Is that confirmed yet or might it still have been a fake.
Given the power level of this set so far i am thinking it may well be real.

>>51037452
Against aggro decks, yeah, kinda.

Against midrange Cryptic is Godlike because it does everything at the same time. The new counterspell might counter and stifle but most things you want to counter in modern costs less so you're trading down, and stifle is card disadvantage most of the time. Voidslime never saw play either

>>51037156
>Anywhere the strong oppress the weak, I will be there.
Muh Marx

>>51037501
It was previewed in the most recent Story article.

>>51037523
In modern, anything not a planeswalker that costs 4 or more is considered crap. Collected Company has been considered meh by many, and siege rhino is "eh, okay". The only 4 mana cards I can think of that people don't shit on are walkers like Jace the Banned or Nahiri the Meme.

>>51037156
This+orbs of warding
And with this set its shaping up to have cards that may make that possible eariler then it seems

>>51037181
You are playing it in green black it barely fucking matters that you have to sac it.

>>51037215
This
Its something that your oponent has to deal with its like a planeswalkers ult

>>51037374
You can just give it haste

>>51037452
Has been since 2014.

>>51036603
>and the effect is an inconvenience at the worst.
it's a Xantid Swarm that protects from a turn of sorceries too.
like Xantid Swarm, it's a huge threat, unless you're so fucking dominant in the matchup that the opponent is conces after you play the first land.

>>51036264
The flavour text literally says that it's absolutely unlegendary. I get that it is legendary do balance reasons, but fuck me, wizards are getting worse at fluffing out cards each set

>>51037768
This one is legendary because of its circumstance. Its very special by itself, but at the same time its fated to play a crucial role, to fulfill a mission on which depends the fate of Kaladesh.

Its the typical unlikely robot hero.

>Press F to salute.

>>51037854

Tezzeret did nothing wrong

>>51037768
That aspect of the fluff is fine
What concerns me is that it stops noncreature spells the fuck was tez sending through the portal if not creatures.

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>nobody's talking about my favorite spoiler so far

this is going to replace 1 thing in the ice and 1 anticipate from my standard deck, and then i'm going to make a commander deck around him, because draw-go control in EDH is totally possible.

>>51037961
he's come a long way from being Consul's lieutenant

>>51037961
I like it very much with pic related. I may as well try to build U/R Prowess/Control with Bedlam Reveler (even if that sounds contradictory).

>>51037854
Yea, but it's not what the flavour text says at all, it says it's just 'an aether disruptor mounted on a lightweight thopter', like if they could have just make 10 of these. It could go along the lines of 'the last aether disruptor, mounted on a lightweight thopter, was the only thing capable of stopping tezzeret', but instead they went with the blandest possible description of the situation. It's like they don't even try

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>>51038004
Forgot the pic.

>>51037961
A better goblin electromancer sign me up

>>51038006
>'the last aether disruptor, mounted on a lightweight thopter, was the only thing capable of stopping tezzeret'
that would have been pretty silly. Why on earth would it be the last aether disruptor?

Maybe they actually made more, but THIS is the important one because its the one that achieves its mission. Or maybe stealth was such a factor than a single thopter stood a better chance than a wave of 20.

>>51037961
>the blue thalia

my body is ready

>>51038064
>that would have been pretty silly. Why on earth would it be the last aether disruptor?
Cause it legendary. Things are legendary because they are one of a kind.
>Maybe they actually made more, but THIS is the important one because its the one that achieves its mission.
I don't think that the bullet that killed JFK was more legendary that all the other identical bullets in the clip just because it happened to be the one shot at his head, and it seems to me that the case was similar with what things were usually legendary in mtg. If I'm sperging out too hard it's because I'm still salty from battle at the bridge

>>51037252
If people have to run a bad card to stop a card which one is the good card?

>>51038006
Its prehapes not special but legends will be told of it in future.

>>51038094
>blue anti-thalia
>literally everything thalia isn't
>1/3 so it doesn't care about a 2/1 first strike
>discounts instant and sorcery spells and draws cards

>>51038117
I see what you mean but i dont think it matters its not like this sort of thing will be the norm and variety is nice

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>>51038117
Some would say said bullet wasn't legendary (though the shot itself totally was), but the shooter was without a doubt. And who shot JFK?, some bald ape human, almost identical to the other bald apes populating the world and the bald ape he shot.

In the same manner the Thopter is legendary because it is a being to a certain degree (Nissa remarks this point in flavor text) while representing something way greater than itself.

Why would you be salty at Battle at the Bridge tho?

>>51036570
Blue will be whenever you draw a card pay U and draw a card.

>>51037523

>against aggro decks command sucks
>not chain-locking them with command-snap-command while you chip away at their health

>>51037023
You'll get Disallow and Baral and like it.

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>>51036264
>This and Salvaging Station

>>51038533
Honestly, those two together the second best thing that could have happened to control magic after Counterspell, good enough in my opinion.

>>51038543
>"Return target NONCREATURE artifact-"

Sorry to break your christmasland dreams, but that just doesn't work.

>>51038641
yeah, I realized that moments after posting.

I'm retarded.

>>51038623

>when you realized that the first ability on the original tezzeret untapped artifacts

10/10 flavor

>>51038686

Fuck them planeswalkers ruining my Magic.

>>51038686
Terese Nielsen is my favorite magic artist, but I gotta say, Ajani looks... Aged here.

>>51038708
these are just the planeswalker cards of the new introductive set.

>combo decks literally splash green just to play its equivalent in T1,5
>this has no color requirement
>it's pretty bad/just okay
Jesus christ, this board is so bad at magic it hurts.

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>>51036264
Get on the bench you little shit,we've been looking for you.

>>51038676
>>51038686
>>51038695
>>51038707
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>>51038728
All of these are planeswalker deck exclusives.

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This actually seems decent for common

>>51038676
Guess this is going in the Tezz Planeswalker deck.

>>51038751
>>51038738

>>51038618
Exactly.

That's why I said

>and like it.

Is anyone else hoping for some phyrexian hint in the flavortext or art? The planar portals was a beginning.

>>51038746
Tap 2 (less with Baral on the field) artifacts and pay U to mana leak something?, Surprisingly useful in the right deck, yes.

>>51038720
>Betrayal

Against who? The only people he could "betray" are either Bolas or I guess the Consulate, unless somehow the Jacetice League was stupid enough to trust him for some reason.

>>51038771
Nah, its implied its already happening, but don't expect anything until 2-3 blocks from here.

>>51038746
This almost feels like a viable sideboard option for Affinity. Only almost though, I think.

>>51038784
Tezzeret kills Padeem

As a Consul that pretty much counts as treason, high treason if you ask me.

>>51038784
Remember than is Kaladesh Tezzie was Chief Judge. At least in this plane people didn't know he was evil.

>>51038695
that's actually pretty nice looking
>>51038720
given current state of removal, and wuality of starter deck tezz, this is actually solid

getting a bit neevous about the future of these planeswalker decks.

>>51038815
we atog now

>>51038801
The real Affinity card of the set is Hope of Ghirapur. Being a cheap artifact with evasion It fits the deck whileprotecting affinity from removal and boardwipes. Makes the deck quite more resilient.

>>51038839
Hope also slows infect down a turn basically

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Anyone read Italian?

>>51038815
Love the art and flavor.

>Buy luxury Sol Ring, unique piece in the world and one of the top inventions at the fair
>Come morning a fucking gremlin ate it.

>>51038867
I don't but I think it has improvise and etb : make a thopter.

>>51038867
When it enters make 2 Thopters I think.

>>51038867
When he enters the battlefield create 2 thopters with flying

>>51038867
improvise , etb 1/1 colorless token

>>51038867

Improvise

when this enter in the battefiled, create 2 thopher 1/1 whit flying

>>51038867
3UR
Creature - Human Artificer {U}
Improvise
When ~ETBs, create two 1/1 Thopter artifact creature token with flying.
2/2
>>51038881
wrong
>>51038884
right

>>51038839
Any potential inclusion for Affinity is less a question of how good that card may be and more "what are you replacing for it?"

So tell me, what gets cut for Hope? I don't feel it being worthwhile, personally. It can't save you from Ancient Grudge, and the times you need it most are when it's most likely to just get shot in the mouth before getting to do anything.

Reminds me a lot of everyone hyping Copter for Affinity.

>>51038867
>Dissident "Whirlermaker"
>Human Artificer
>Improvise
>Create 2 1/1 flying Thopters on ETB

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>>51038815
>mfw

>>51038746

Well I'm at least going to try this in Pauper Affinity

>>51038815

Can't sac to Atogatog, 0/10

>>51038867 + >>51038623 = Improvised thopter spam?

>>51038954
your opponent can't force you to sac it to atogatog with newmrakul

11/10

>>51038914
>Whirlermaker
totteri is their italian for thopter.

>>51038978

uh, sure

Anything is good if you magically draw a new spell for free

Any artifact based block constructed infinite comboes so far? No energy memes.

>>51038899
Sacrifice means it can't be shot down once on the field, not before you have the chance to activate the effect.

That said, its a sideboard card, a x2 there imho, x3 tops.

I suspect it will perform well 2nd game after they bust out the affinity hate. Unfortunately, it don't stop Kataki.

>>51039002
>Sacrifice means it can't be shot down once on the field, not before you have the chance to activate the effect.
except you need to deal combat damage for the effect to be relevant.

>>51038986
And Totterista the corresponding noun for someone who makes totteri. I couldn't "Topterista" is the closest analogue in my mother language, but translation to english is a bit more nuanced. I settled for the more direct "Whirlermaker" but it could also be "Whirler Dissident", taking after Whirler Virtuoso.

>>51036570
>>51037090
Holy shit this IS a Pokedex

>>51037167
I was honestly really excited for Aether Revolt until this specific card. This thing is going to be completely fucking unbearable. Jesus Christ.

>>51038936
That art remind me of my school days, I had a few that were printed without the "end of turn" clause for some reason and genuinely played it as such. Also had frozen shades with the same thing.
I genuinely didn't knew I was doing it wrong. Well it was before Mirrodin and I didn't have enough good artefact support at the time to make it OP but still.

>>51039030
Eh...

No?... Xantid Swarm needs to attack. This, you can straight up sac after hitting the board.

Unless you are implying it needs to pull its weight with damage to be worth it, in which case its a 1/1 with evasion for 1. Less than optimal but not by much.

It merits testing at the very least.

>>51039082
>I can't read

>>51039082

READ
THE
FUCKING
CARD

>>51039088
I'm guessing he's trolling, if not he's just dumb either way you should probably just ignore him.

>>51039082
target player who was dealt combat damage by Hope of Ghirapur this turn

love it when they go quiet

>>51038707
This actually looks good for pauper

sorry but I want to rant some more about Aethersphere Harvester

just. a colorless, 3/5 lifelink for 3 that's immune to sorcery speed destruction? it feels like a culmination of every stupid grindy midrange card that's dominated standard. it's going to be such a fucking pain in the ass, and it's just disappointing because it felt like wizards was doing so much good shit in this set, and that it was really furthering a lot of the good, fresh qualities of KLD, and then... bam. a bullshit lifelink 3/5 vehicle. boof

>>51039117
lol

>>51039149

people have been complaining about it so much I'm going to go ahead and assume it will be utterly unplayable in Standard

that's the usual pattern

>>51039149
I do really like the improvise counterspell though

I think there's probably a UB artifact/improvise control deck with a bunch of stuff like this, baral's expertise, new tezz, battle at the bridge, snapcaster gearhulk, etc etc etc

>>51039164
>snapcaster gearhulk

It's Fatcaster, keep up with the lingo m8

Although I keep trying to make people call Copter 'Smuggles'

>>51039163
it is going to be a horror in limited though. 3/5 makes me hope it will close out games at least as much as it stalls them out, 2/3 is the just fuck my shit up p/t.

>>51039175
>not Looter Scooter

What's wrong with you?.

>>51039207

Fuck all artifact removal in AER so far as well; hope you get an Appetite in the KLD pack!

Hope It's on my side for the prerelease...

>>51039104
Unfortunately I'm not either trolling or dumb, so I have little to no excuse for my mistake.

Thus, I wallow in my shame.

>>51039105
Much worse than I thought then. Oh well, still a nice fringe card.

I hope Investigate makes some sort of weird showing in Standard, I really liked the mechanic and was bummed it wasn't competitive.

>>51039163
I really don't see how it's not going to be played in Standard but here's hoping

>>51039287
synergy with improvise! it could happen!

also I don't think it's actually going to be good but someone should try making it happen with clue tokens and that 2UU alt win condition enchantment

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>>51039316

I still like this for the alt-wincon; you could even do it in Standard! You know, if you play a few hundred times.

>>51039353

er, Draft, not Standard

>>51039149
I feel it, 3 mana 3/5 flying crew 1 is insane already, lifelink just make it that much more pushed.

>>51039353
I actually don't hate the Module/Mimic combo. like, you shouldn't be relying on it to win you the game by any means, but it's a decent amount of value that's really easy to assemble and doesn't take up that much deckbuilding space if you're a deck that already wants to be playing stuff like the artifact Chord of Calling and Glint Crane and stuff like that.

Propaganda would fit nicely with the consulate pushing their music all day.

>>51039433

That sounds way too unfun for newer players, have Mindslaver instead

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So this was finally confirmed.

Decent card for the top half, possibly a tiny bit over-priced (I know it's meant to be a nerfed Cruel Ultimatuum) bottom half basically says, "you're getting a busted Bolas PWer card in the next set to tempt you into playing Grixis."

>>51039285

>I'm not dumb.
>literally illiterate.

>>51039533
Well it's a good thing grixis seems to have the best control colors for standard right now.

>>51039533
Watch them just reprint Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker.

>>51039533
I don't think this is good enough. I guess it depends on exactly what the new Bolas is going to look like in Amonkhet but I don't see it.

>>51039567
I honestly wouldn't be upset.

>>51038300
Because it's a sorcery. Something you conjure out of your hands. You can apparently cast a battle now. It doesn't make any sense fluff-wise, and it's was the easiest thing in the world to put that name into the flavour text - the way it has always been done, which just shows how incredibly lazy the cards creator must have been

>>51039594
It's possible if one or two of these in the bin lets you play the bolas and immediately use a backbreaking ult, otherwise, yeah.

Hey I don't have a picture but there is a card that goes like this.
Secluded Tinkerer - 2R
When secluded tinkerer enters the battlefield, if you say normies get out, gain REEEEEE

>>51039616

That is not how Magic's fluff works, and there have always been cards like that.

Your 'Library' is your memories of cool stuff you've seen while traveling around the planes. When you cast a spell you are recreating scenes with magic.

tl;dr games of Magic are Planeswalkers showing off their vaction photos

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>>51037156
>2CMC

>>51039731
Add a disk and you've got a stew going.

>>51039731
I don't think this is even in the top 5 of fun things that you can do with Iso Scepter

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>>51039616
You can conjure a whole invasion, why not a simple skirmish?

>>51039750
How about paradox engine iso scepter silence?

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>>51038986
Totterista is italian for Totti fanboy

>>51036570
Basically Elemental Bond with a reworked draw mechanism and scry slapped on. Optional draw is worth the mana cost even if you could draw more with Elemental Bond IMO

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>>51036264
CASUAL AS FUCK EQUIPMENT VOLTRON COMMANDER
I love it.

>>51038728
Perfect for Brago. Actually most of this set seems tailor made for him with that new revolt mechanic

>>51039566

I run a Grixis deck right now and as long as an agro deck doesn't get their utterly perfect opening hand it reliably wins.

Like you said: lots of control until either Kalitas and/or Liliana swarm the board with zombies, Chandra keeps swinging for six or my Gearhulks and Dark Dwellers keep swinging in.

>>51039724
>tl;dr games of Magic are Planeswalkers showing off their vaction photos
Shit, I guess I'm living a mill deck.

>>51039353
>Gilt-Nest Crane
>Sram's Expertise
>Servo Exhibition
>Disallow(?)
Halfway there, what else would you need to make a viable deck.

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>>51038815
IT'S EATING A SOL RING
MY HERO

>>51039546
It really shows when even people like me would rush while reading cards.

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>>51037167
NO!

Please NO!

Not more copters!

>>51040025
An invention Sol Ring no less.

>>51040012
You can call it Sram Servo

>>51039041
no, whirler was turbinanti. it's probably thoptercrafter or something like that.

>>51040110
Ye, or "Sram's Fantastic / Mechanized Servo Circus".

The deck could also have Clues or use Metallurgic Summonings +Improvise cards for a control deck.

The optimal thing would be a deck in the style of B/W tokens but with Mechanized Production as an alt wincon in the style of Splinter Twin, But I don't know if the cards for it are there.

>>51040316
just saw that on the mothership and was about to post it. wonder if there's some kind of living end shenanigans you could pull off with that.

>>51040316
This got spoiled last night.

>>51038727
Except Xanthid Swarm is repeatable and doesn't need to connect. Oh, and is pretty much a way to fight combat tricks.

Remember Silence? Nobody fucking played it. Wonder why...

This set is great.
Dunno why people complain.
Design is fantastic and development hasn't overcosted the cards.

>>51040316
Emerge fodder!

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>>51038623

i hope you got your playset before they spiked

>>51040399
go away desolator

>>51038623
>>51040399
Paradox engine won't be used. It's a shitty gimmick.

Dies to the billions of artifact hate in this set alone. Enjoy that wasted 5 mana. Cryptolith dies to Push as well.

>>51040465
>Cryptolith dies to Push as well.

what

>>51040480
It dies. Push is literally unbeatable. Because you ca

>>51039596
I wouldn't either, but the blowback would be hilarious.

>>51040531
Alternate wincon is AetherFlux Reservoir decks. I hope more 0 mana artifacts are coming other than ornithopther!

>>51040558
not 0 mana but you have those new eggs

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>>51040531

holy fuck, i have to build a deck with this now and all the other 0 cost artifacts/flux

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>barely have time to see Hidden Herbalists spoiler on lunch break yesterday
>spend entire shift excited as fuck thinking about how this card was finally gonna break elves in modern and what slots I was going to replace with it
>get home and look at card again
>it's a human

>>51040465
Let's combine memes.

Cryptolith Rites+Paradox engine+Animation Module+Metallica Mimic

Make it happen /tg/.

[Spoiler]Autocorrect turned metallic into Metallica and I don't want to correct it.[/spoiler]

>>51040531
4 mana empty turn.

Possibly one thopter if you have a 0 mana arti.

Bad card.

I like how no one is even bothering to comment on >>51040549

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>>51040549

>>51040531
Fucking fantastic for limited.
>>51040549
Same here.

>>51040549
Ooh, I do love colorless universal removal.

>>51039533
>bottom half basically says, "you're getting a busted Bolas PWer card in the next set to tempt you into playing Grixis."

It does not say that at all. Nor hint it. It gives you a garbage single counter.

If you got four of these in the yard? Sure, four counters, but that's a lot of commitment. Such a strategy better win you the game- But it won't because WotC hasn't been printing cards in that style for a while now.

>>51040589
Hi leddit.

>>51040629
>>51040629
it's pretty meh

>>51040549

oh neat it hits lands.

>>51040676
It had better for 8 mana.

>>51040578

Welcome to Vintage, enjoy your stay

>>51040612
Next turn you Paradoxical Outcome and get like 10 tokens more and gain a shit ton of life with your reservoir

>>51040549
my friend has a salvaging station deck, this concerns me for my future.

>>51037961
He's better in the 99 of Talrand or Azami.

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>>51036264
>Thopter
>No wings, but rotor on the back
>Docking Bay Claps
>... Bombbay door
>... Sky below
>... Sacrifice effect

...That's... no thopter...

>>51040711
>Talrand
>Azami

Augustin IV would like a word.

>>51040696
Or win the game with that "8 of the same name" card.

>>51040500
It seems anon's CMC is two or less.

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>>51040589

>>51038867
Imma try with no knowledge of Italian.

Thopter Dissenter (probably Whirler Dissenter since Whirler makes thopters)
Human Artificer
Improvise
When ~ enters the battlefield (field of battle), create a Thopter (create a token creature artifact Thopter 1/1 colorless with flying).

>>51039724
My problem is not with the name itself, but in the combination of the name and the type - since battle at the bridge's name seems to allude to a particular event, it seems like it should be legendary. Since it's not not, there can be two battles at the bridge at the same time, which makes little sense to me. Only permanents can be legendary though, just as >>51039780 's example: night of souls betrayal is a unique, singular event (just like battle at the bridge appears to be because of it's name, flavour text, and what I know of the plot) and there can not be two night's of souls betrayal happening at the same time (it can end and then begin again though). I would have absolutely no problem if there was an enchantment called battle at the bridge (which, as an enchantment, would surely do something else, I'm not talking about what the card does at all, it has nothing to do with my saltines), preferably a legendary one as, like I said, it hints at an important and singular event.

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>>51040739
CRASHING THIS PLANE
WITH NO SURVIVORS

>>51040758
This technically wins the game turn 5, Conduit can be replaced for anything that is cheap and has tap and pay an energy.

>>51040796
conduit makes the mana to replay the elephant, the only other thing that does that is a land, so it really can't be replaced that easy.

>>51040836

you could substitute it with any mana source plus an energy outlet

an extra card, sure. But it would make the combo more resilient to have the option.

>>51038896
>>51040762 (Me)
Didn't recognize the italian "two". So close!

>>51040778
Well it's a sorcery, so it's pretty hard to have two battles going on toghether in the stack

>>51038867

My translation (my english ain't good, but hey, I'm italian, so hey.)

Dissident Thopterist
Improvise: (your artifacts can aid you to cast this spell. Each artifact that you TAP after activating mana abilities corresponds as payment of 1)
When the Dissident Thopterist enters in the battlefield, create two creature tokens colorless Thopter 1/1 with flying.

>>51038881
>>51038884
>>51038889
>>51038890
>>51038892
>>51038896
>>51038914
>>51040762
>>51040961
Is this the most translated card in the history of MTG?

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>>51040549
>throw oil can at promised end.
>she explodes.

>>51040531
would this go in some kind of eggs variant?

>>51039233
>Not Looty Puff Sr.

>>51041113
>Oh no, eight bears!

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>>51041113
>In a very special episode of MTG, emrakul gets taken in by a cult and suffers terrible consequences when it all comes apart.

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Aaaaaand this card is now broken.

>>51041258
How is it broken in any way?

>>51039723
Make it in a set editor. Don't half-ass your jokes.

>>51040998
Translation from Latin Alphabet languages is not that hard. If you know a little bit of French, German, Italian, Spanish, or even Portuguese, and you know how MTG cards are formatted, then you can probably translate ok. Image, set, and themes also provides context clues.

>>51041271
Look at the spoilers and figure it out.

While you do that I'm buying up what I can find on eBay.

>>51038723
Ajani, Sarkhan and Tezzeret are the oldest mortal walkers after all.

>>51041288

oh it's this dumbass again

you've literally spent more time trying to push this card online than you could ever hope to make back from speculating it

>>51041258
Huh?

>>51041306
It's a retard trying to spike the price of a junk rare.

>>51041306
Some retard saying retard things.

>>51041306

He's the guy that thought Midnight Oil would be the next Yawgmoth's Bargain and bought dozens of copies.

He's constantly posting about 'super secret tech' that will make it valuable so buy copies now!

>>51041319
>>51041336
God that sounds pathetic.

>>51041299
>>51041319
>>51041330
>>51041336
>>51041345
Stay mad. I'm sitting on over 1500 copies right now.

I'll be close to about $50,000 profit within the month once it's released.

>>51041402
Some people just fail with their lives...

>>51041402
Anon, if you already stockpiled, the best way to drive up hype is to explain the tech. If nobody figures it out, you don't get jack.

>>51041402
I guess that means we'll be stuck with the good cards. Gee whiz.

>>51039072
Sparta kick it off a bridge

>>51041440
There's no tech, his scheme depends on people believing a random anon in a board that is infamously bad at magic.

>>51041402
It'a literally a worse Phyrexian Arena.

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>>51041159

>>51041258
Busted as in barely functional, sure.

Draw one card and discard two every turn until four turns later yiur hand size is zero.

>>51041644
Now HERE is a card worth buying.

Whoa guys, beware the Midnight Oil secret tech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RagMZwdnLnc

>>51041644
>8 bears
>8/8
>8cmc

Does not compute

>>51041692
What's the problem here? It's 8 bears for an 8/8 at a reduced cost

>>51041703
Eight bears would be 16/16 for 8GGGGGGGG

>>51041703
It should be 16/16.

>>51041726
>>51041723

RTFC, look at the art

Grizzly BearS, 2/2

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>>51037330
I've been playing for 2 months now and I'm starting to realize that.

>>51037352
Holy fucking shit a couple of my friends do that I'm so fucking over hearing about these insane combos that will fuck me dead while forgetting that I'm running UW.

>>51041726
but then that would be 16 bears

>>51041844
Tell your friends to stop living in magical Christmas land.

>>51041831
Are you retarded?

>>51041866
The card Grizzly Bears has two bears in its art. You retard

>>51041945
A "bear" is understood to be a 2/2 for CMC 2 by anyone who isn't braindead. Twice eight is sixteen. The art has zero bearing on any of the mechanics.

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Interestingly enough only Portal art has only bear in it. All the other ones have two. Not like I care about your stupid semantic discussion though.

>>51040349
>Except Xanthid Swarm is repeatable and doesn't need to connect.
Yeah that's so incredibly relevant.
>Nobody fucking played it.
It sees play in T1,5
>combat tricks
kek why am i even bothering to reply to some standard playing scrub

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>>51042021

congratulations on your autism

>>51040316
>Armored centaur
>"It's a construct guys!"
You couldn't bother to make new art and just slaped something old that was lying around, didn't you wizards?

>>51042021
Still, the original card Grizzly Bears has two bears. Multiplying the amount of bears with four should multiply the p/t by four as well.

>>51038229

Thaila is 3/2 you fucking noob

>>51041402
1500 copies?, That's fucking nothing, spare change at most.

Plus Midnight Oil?, that's worthless junk you hear me?

Now DUBIOUS CHALLENGE, now THERE'S a card. It may as well be printed in solid gold so good it is.

I'm currently sitting at 2365 copies, ALL foiled and ALL signed. I expect around 200.000$ of benefit by the end of the month.

>>51042137
We're talking about the relevant Thalia here.

>>51041863

They think it's funny when I tell them I'm fucking tired about hearing about cards and combos they don't even have.

>>51042137
>>too new to know the only relevant thalia
>>calling others noobs

>>51041402
Why aren't you making more videos to scam your patreons Rudy instead of shitposting on 4chan?

>>51038728
is this a fucking Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann reference

>>51042228
>Implying new Thalia isn't used since she fucks over fetches, shocks, and duals.

So WB Vehicles Midrange is going to be the thing right? You can control the board with Yahenni's, drop vehicles like Peacekeeper or NewScooter or even old scooter, slow down the enemy with Thalia, get card advantage with Sram, keep stuff away with fatal push, protect your board with Selfless Spirits, and have good cheap threats like Toolcraft exemplar.
Sounds p great to me

>>51040696
you gonna replay 10 artifact cards with that 1 mana left?

>>51042172
This plan sounds dunious.

>>51042261
I think it's Redline.

>>51042300

I hope not, he won't be able to deal with Camel aggro

>>51042263
She isn't used cause she is 1 mana too expensive

>>51042329

She gets 1 or 2 of in a bunch of D&T builds

What's your sleeper card of the set? I just bought 10 peacewalker colossi
Also had some store credit so I picked up 8 foil Lupine Prototypes, just in case

>>51042278
Black adds almost nothing. Yahennis kills all your crew as well.i see no reason to use black over red to support white vehicles

>>51042383
splashing black in a few dual lands enables scrapheap to come back.

>>51042383
>Yahennis kills all your crew as well.i see no reason to use black over red to support white vehicles

You're right about Yahenni, but there's a reason the most successful Vehicle builds so far splash black.

Reanimating Scrappy is essential, and Unlicensed Disintegration is great. Push is an option now as well.

>>51042474
Mardu vehicles are a thing , why would you cut red?

>>51036264

With everyone talking about Eternal formats for this card the only deck I can see right now off the top of my head that might play this is TES(The Epic Storm).

TES sometimes plays Xantid Swarm in the side but this might get a nod to be tried out just because it's easier to cast and can actually attack for 1 and you don't need to fetch up a Bayou that leaves you vulnerable to Wasteland and denying you Abrupt Decay mana sources. Though of course this needs to actually attack and do damage where as Xantid Swarm just needs to attack only.

>>51042530
What relevant flyers are played in legacy anyways?

>>51042587

Delver, Clique, Strix

Only a flipped Delver blocks safely, but I guess you might at least force them into trading for the others

>>51042587

The cheap stuff or the big stuff?

Cheap stuff is Delver of Secrets, big stuff is like Griselbrand, Emrakul.

>>51036264

IT CREWS SMUGGLERS COPTER

10/10 CARD

>>51042615
>big stuff is like Griselbrand, Emrakul

I feel like if your opponent can block a 1/1 flier with Griselbrand or Emrakul you might have bigger concerns

>>51042628

And then crews Skysovereign, the cycle is complete.

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>>51042650
>mfw someone did that to me
>mfw I had a discard outlet, BBB and three sacs open for Voldaren Pariah madness and flip
>mfw he lost everything and died on the backswing.

>>51042662
These were the ones from /r/magicduels
>>51040549
>>51040531

>>51042634

Yeah TES doesn't really bring in Xantid Swarm against the reanimator decks, I mean you can sure because if they Exhume it can come back in and sometimes comes in against the sneak/show decks though but it's not the matchup it's primarily brought in for because really you bring it in matchups where you just want to stop them casting FoW and Flusterstorm, but hey you can still flash it back to Cabal Therapy! Xantid is mostly a metagame call in TES and i'd kind of have to test HOG out a bit first before I can fully evaluate the card.

>>51042650

And we also now have a vehicle that can crew other vehicles. The circle is complete.

>>51042089
It normally is relevant if a creature needs only to attack or if it needs to actually connect. Xantid Swarm can attack into a Delver. The thopter can't. Also, there's absolutely no advantage in regards to colour when you're already running green from Abrupt Decay.

And I went and looked up, and I honestly don't see any Silence on any Legacy Top8. Mind to share a link?

>>51037567
That's not really true, ignoring stuff like tron and decks with delve because they technically cheat out their big stuff, Jund and Junk both play quite a few 4 cost creatures and all of them are considered pretty strong.

There's cards in this spoiler that make tron even more absurd in Modern.

>>51043626
Like?

>>51043626
Name one. I could use a good chuckle.

>>51044441
i can dig it.

also since i'm curious
>>51044444

>>51044441
I like it. I like its silly little hammer.

>>51044517
It's less noticeable on more explicitly fantastical and "wild" planes but does anyone else think it's weird there's just a giant fucking demon in the middle of the street.

>>51044544
I was just wondering the same thing really. what role do demons and angels themselves play in this plane? they don't just seem to be random wildlife, but WOTC hasn't really told us if they do anything in particular that's unique to the plane have they?

>captcha: NTR Newton

>>51044591
Well if slim shady is anything to go off of, they just hang out and do demon things.

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Here's a rough draft of Eggs I've been toying with.

Power of Mox just keeps amazing me. Trawling every egg into Mox generates 3 mana, which is pretty insane.

Playing Scrap Trawler over Faith's Reward/OtV has few ups and downs. On one side you have easier time recurring artifacts rather than a big white instant/sorcery and on the other side Trawler dies to EVERY REMOVAL SPELL EVER.

Biggest difficulty going forward with this is probably to get the mana curve juuust right for maximum Trawl grave recursion cascade train for maximum card draw and mana generation.

I've mostly been testing against UWR control/midrange/Nahiri variants to see how much I want to punch my testicles out and gotta admit it hasn't been THAT bad.

>>51044544
Yeah everyone there seems unimpressed. Like this demon comes down to the market every Tuesday for his weekly groceries and to catch up on gossip.

>>51044674
SHIT. Posted wrong version. Scarecrone is the placeholder for Scrap Trawler.

Scrap Trawler
3
Artifact Creature - Construct
Whenever Scrap Trawler or another artifact you control is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, return to your hand target artifact card in your graveyard with lesser converted mana cost.

>>51044692
Well angels/demons are usually just 'embodiments of white/black mana' right?

Aetherborn are pretty much that except more humanoid and they're used to dealing with big shit roaming around.

"Why do people call you the Herald of Anguish"
"My name is Harold, the "anguish" bit came about because I got real sad a few years ago"

>>51038695
Ajani's Comrade is just a random elf...and not a leonin....why...

>>51044741
there's no leonin on kaladesh anon.

>>51044807
None that aren't planeswalkers

>>51044807
He could summon some, though. That's still a magical power planeswalkers have, right?

>>51044890
Normal planeswalkers, no

>>51042280
4x Ornithopter, 4x Memnite, 4x Phyrexian Walker. I'm playing 12.

New spoilers, get them while they're hot!

New thread: >>51045066

>>51037527
I can't stand this whole block

>>51044441
what an odd creature to put improvise in. still, I'll put this in my Nath edh deck

>>51040549
why does the funnel not melt?

>>51038818
>5 mana destroy a creature draw a 6 mana planeswalker is playable at all outisde of the vacuum of the intro decks

Are people still on this meme that Metal Tezzeret is playable?

>>51038006
The last aether disrupter, mounted on a lightweight thopter, was the only thing capable of stopping tezzeret-- especially tezzeret's collar, the symbol of blah blah blah your flavortext sucks.

>>51041402

In my FLGS there is actually one guy that had very good result with a B/R vampire madness deck running 4 midnight oil. The good thing is that when the next one comes in it reset the card limit.

>>51038152
>le ebin ornithopter is a bad card meme
Its great on its own and the set has a version of ensoul to make it even better

>>51038300
Fuck i love the flavor text on this card.
Would have been better if it did not come from retcon nissa

>>51042099
Are you fucking retarded? You can see through the gaps in the "armor". It's an aether powered robot, very clearly.