Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>50972740
The Edition is a Blank Canvas For You To Project Your Own Edition On edition

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Oh fuck, I've been living under a rock. When the fuck did this become a thing?

>>50972763
Like September, I think.

So, do the Armoured Assault Boxes not have special formations? Was finally hoping that a devilfish might be worth the points.

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4th for OP new Black Templar decurion.

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Will new Celestine get nerfed or buffed?

>>50972807
>Led by Celestine as HQ

>>50972803
Why would you think a troops choice and a dedicated transport have formations? Does everything need formations?

>>50972899
>pathfinders
>Troop choice

>>50972773
Are they any good?

>>50972960
>implying I know anything about tau
>implying that I wasn't just making a generalization based off of most of the boxes being troops and a DT

>>50972975
No, Still only 1W 3+Sv in an edition with tons of high strength low AP.

Planning on kit-bashing some Dark Eldar Wyches, Kabalites, Wracks, and Daemonettes to make some counts-as Chaos Cultists for my Slaaneshi Chaos Marine warband.

Fluff-wise, they have a bunch of Eldar slave-troops because they raided a near-crippled Craftrworld and plundered the absolute fuck out of it, and took every child Eldar they could as a slave as well as stole a ton of Eldar wraith-constructs and vehicles. They love to use these broken, half-insane Eldar that they have corrupted to Slaanesh as slave troops against other Eldar, and revel in the glorious corruption of Eldar technology to fight the Eldar.

Would people have a problem with me doing this? Rules-wise they just Cultists, but I could see some people getting pissy about it.

How would you fix Berzerkers?

>>50973100
Point decrease, 2A.

Assault in general needs an total overhaul.

>>50972991
Are they at least fun to play then?

>>50973131
That is relative. Do you like marines? Then play marines.
>What is google?

>>50973100
+1 Attack is all they really need to be a good choice. They'd still have some flaws, but any good unit SHOULD have some flaws.

>>50973153
Just asking some questions, no need to get upset my dude!

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New WD info
Cadia will fall. Inquisitor Greyfax has been realised by Tranzyn from his tesseract vault. Tranzyn will be on cadia, phalanx will show on cadia(fist will fight daemons will fight daemons), Belisarius is trying to undersatand cadian pylons.
Image is showing Imperial forces reatriting from cadia guided by the Celestin's vision.

>>50973100

2A base profile.
Chainaxes are a free swap for Specialist Weapon / Shred.
Can take Power Weapons mixed into the squad. Champion additionally gains Chainfists, Eviscerators and maybe a few exotic ones.
Introduce a new vehicle with Assault Ramps that comes in below 150pts.

>>50973154
Chainaxes should be +1S like in 30k, there is literally no reason for it to be different since they're AP4 in 30k too.

Also give em' FnP. If Death Company has it I don't see why they shouldn't.

>>50973197
And I forgot to mention no new model to Abby

>>50973197

40k gettin age of sigmared!

Making a Ravenwing list (1000 to begin with), should I go with a CAD or is the Strike Force good enough to give up OS?

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So. Elysian Long Range Scanners. Do these prevent Genestealer Cults Cult Ambush on turn1 when they use Infiltrate to Cult Ambush?

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Somewhat 40k related but are there rifle grenades that could destroy tanks? I want to do pic related for some of my tankbustas but i want something to go off of incase someone gets anal that "That cant be s8 ap3!"

>>50973262
Anything that stops infiltrators also stops Cult Ambush. So yea, fuck with genestealers.

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>>50973262
Sure, why not?

>>50973197
mega lame, but expected

>>50972816
Loses Independent Character. Gains Bodyguards. Unchanged besides that. Points not listed.

Source: White Dwarf

>>50973309
>>50973313
Can you state why this happens? My opponent is rules lawyering faggot and unless its a RAW, he doesn't take it.

>>50973351
GSC is infiltrate. End of discussion.

>>50973351
Cult Ambush is still Infiltrate. It even says so in their Cult Ambush rule that it's a form of Infiltrate.. So again, anything that fucks with infiltrate will fuck with it.

>>50973351
Doesn't sound like much fun to play against

>>50973373
>>50973383
Ah true! Cult Ambush says
"Units with this special rule that Infiltrate, or that arrive from Reserve or Ongoing Reserve,"
So they are not deploying via Infiltrate (so Servo Skulls dont work if they would be in the game anymore anyway) but Scannr has 4+ chance to stop and 4 scanners roll 4x4+ to stop every Cult Ambush. So on average only one of every 16 unit could pull cult ambush off on turn 1.

Anyone have any experience with this? It's the last day it's on sale, and I might grab one.

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/searchresults?q=GPP+Sale+December+2016&utm_source=Miniature+Market+-+Full+List&utm_campaign=87011d3b05-GPP+Sale+Email+Last+Day&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_be5b9f7f95-87011d3b05-24958821&mc_cid=87011d3b05&mc_eid=7158d0ec8a

>>50973351
They are still infiltrating/arriving from reserves, and are affected by rules that target those methods of deployment. That's why cult ambush can still trigger things like interceptor.

>>50973455
>Servo Skulls dont work
they do, but only on the units attempting to infiltrate. Multiple scanners would be a more complete solution, though, since they shut down infiltration completely AND mess with the reserve rolls later in the game.

>>50973197
Does it explain the presence of the Dark Eldar? Is he allowing the Imperial forces to retreat through the Webway?

>>50973481
> Ctrl f "Warhammer 40,"
Versus...
> Ctrl f "40kg"

This is why. People who put in Warhammer 40,000 General are fucking mongoloid fagniggers that should just shoot themselves to cleanse the genepool

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>>50973197


>Cawl, spends 10,000 years trying to understand Cadian Pylons. Doesn't. Cadia Falls. Trazyn shows up claiming to know shit about Pylons, Cadia falls anyway

Looks like 13th Black Crusade (attempt 2) is off to a great start for the Empire

>>50973383

Well at Battle Brothers this year it wasn't so I'll take an official GW tourney over you, thanks anyway

>>50973481
On the one hand, anon has an edition, gay as it was. Also included previous thread link, which is nifty, but high maintenance for low payoff.

On the otherhand, does not use my method of attaching Spoiler Tag to draw attention to list builder, and uses an older version of basic general that's missing a few factions.

>>50973532
Both have Warhammer 40,000 General in there. searching 40kg is guaranteed not to proc non-general threads. Filters will take you further, but there are limits especially if you like other content TG has to offer.

>>50973271
Guys...?
I know im I2 but...

>>50973197

>Brothers retreat into the Webway! But first Imma take this sick ass selfie, Greyfax, Brother Marcellus say "heretic" <click> awww yiss, that's going on BattleBrotherBook

>>50973649
Just make it count as Tankhammer. The ork is not shooting it, he's using it as a spear.

>>50973478
For the sale price, certainly worth it.

I love pluck foam trays, and at 5 a pop it's a great deal. Even $25 for the bags is pretty decent if you want to one-stop-shop. I just wish there were more bags to pick from.

>>50973665
tankhammers are fucking garbage

If I have a unit of 3 Incubi, an Archon, and a Succubus. Can they all be 1 unit inside a dedicated Venom? And does it have to be specifically someone's Venom, or can any of them take it as the dedicated transport and be lumped in there?

>>50972991
So what, are they worse Grey Knights?

>>50973700
They can all be inside the Venom, and it doesn't matter who's Venom it is.

>>50972975
Drop veterans with four frag cannons WILL destroy way more than their points. I have lost hundreds of points to them with no effort on my opponent's part whatsoever. Absolute bullshit on a stick.

Ey lads, what's a decent Skitarii force? Say 1k points? I'm probably just gonna buy SC boxes and sell the tech priest so if the list uses a few dunecrawlers it's even better.

>>50974429
Eradication box and a domnius maniple box.

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Guys do you think there are full kits in it, or just tervigon variant?

>>50974805
Most likely the complete kit. The only internally-modular kit they've made is the rhino, where they just provide an extra sprue based on what kind of tank the kit is meant for.

You can doublecheck the tervigon sprue to see how difficult it can be to limit it to tervigon-only.

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>>50974429
First you buy some clanrats and some warpfire throwers, then you get a doom bell and a Boneripper.

>>50973670

I guess I'll pick them up. What size is what, though?

Anyone know where I can find some cover/scenery for cheap? I have to cover a 6'x8' table and need a shit ton without breaking the bank.

I looked into Streets of Malifaux and it seems almost perfect, but I'm not sure how many boxes I would need to build it.

>>50977070
>go to Walmart
>buy Styrofoam blocks and gray spray paint
>???
>profit

>>50977095
Would prefer the option of them not looking like shit.

>>50977112

Then don't make them look like shit

>>50977112
This is how people have been making scenery for decades and it works fine if you know what you're doing.

>>50974805
they'd had to have completely remade the tervigon sprue to make it anything other than the complete kit, so it's probably the complete kit.

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Played a 2000pt Imp Guard vs Death Guard game today /tg/. Against extremely sick looking Death Guard I could say. Would you lads be interested in some more pics? I have a few more I can dump. And show me your games too anons.

>>50977205
>you know what you're doing.

Precisely why I would rather just buy something.

>>50977335
Threads dead i don't see why not

>>50977426
>not wanting to improve yourself as a hobbyist

>>50977335
Do it GGA.

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hi guys, I mostly frequent /wip/ and havent been here in months, but I just finished some custodes and found out they had 40k rules. My question is, how well would a squad of 5 custodes go with a pretty mishmash IG force in a game of around 1200-1850 pts? worth taking?

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We ded soon

>>50977534
They'd have no assault transport so you'd have to foot slog them or risk deepstrike to get into assault so it would be a bit hard to support them well.

>>50977598
i was thinking i might field a chimera in a fast attack slot, park it next to them and jump them in turn one. as allies, they can use transports, right? just not start in them, since it's not a dedicated option?

i'm not too familiar with the rules.

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Dumping now. If you want I can batrep it too. It was really close at the beginning. Couldn't hit a thing with all of my shooting.

>>50977638
>If you want I can batrep it too

Please do.

>>50977624
Can a chimera take non-IG bulky models? If so that could work to get them forwards faster.

>>50977598
Augur Array on ANY IG vehicle (I stick one on my Leman Russes for my Tempestus Scions). As long as it is one of your units, units arriving from deepstrike within 6 inches of a vehicle with an Augur Array do not scatter.

>>50977638
What lists did you guys run?

>>50977624
You can let them use a dedicated transport, but the fast attack option is probably best. I can't remember if a unit has to start in its dedicated transport.

When Custodes get into assault, they are fucking monsters. T5, W2, S5, makes them a brick wall falling on whatever they assault. Spears give them even more durability by blocking dangerous attacks that might break their armor. Sentinel blades are okay, if you want a bunch of attacks with powerswords, but I'd just give them Spears for STR 6 AP2 at initiative.

>>50977546
Ayy lmao

>>50977335
Those plasma troopers must be shitting themselves.

>Oh god we brought the wrong special weapons what do we do!?!

I'm busy experimenting with Chimera Chassis so no games for a while, but my army's got a third tank now and depending on how the Chimera turns out I'll probably move on to the special weapons troopers soon. Once I finally have a midfield presence I can go back to the tabletop.

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>>50977660
afaik bulky is no problem on it's own, it just means they take 2 slots, so a chimera with space for 10 can hold 5 bulky models. >>50977681
i dont think they can take dedicated since itsnot on the custodes wargear, unless theres some addendum about imperial allies im not aware of. and taking it as dedicated is the only way to start in it, i think

>>50977638
> shit painted IG versus shit painted chaos.
> HIY GUIS WANT 2 WATCH
How about no

>>50977736
I meant having an IG dedicated transport to free up FA slots.

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>>50977647
We played Maelstrom and started off with Night Fighting and him getting first turn. He shot his Land Raider's lascannons at my Chimera destroying It's multilaser and fired the rest of his units at my Guard blob and scored one point for controlling an objective. My turn 1 could get no psychic powers off or hits on ANY of his units. Ended up just running up my Guardsmen to grab three objectives and scored two points.

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>>50977701

I'm new to 40k, sorry if this question is dumb.

When I read that certain Space Marine units can take vehicles as "dedicated transports" does this mean that the vehicle ends up being "free" in terms of points? Or is the only bonus that you can start with them inside the vehicle on the first turn?

Also if you have a 10 man tactical squad can you still choose a Razorback as your dedicated transport? If so how do you handle the other five marines that don't fit?

>>50972740
>forgetting edition
>forgetting to link the other threads so people know there's a new thread
What a bunch of faggots you are

>>50977743
Post better.

>>50977759
the bonus is they start in the vehicle, and it doesnt take up a fast attack slot in your force organisation, meaning you wont be chewing up a spot for other fast attack options. you still pay full points costs for the vehicle and it's wargear

a friend and i played for MONTHS before i started auditing his lists and worked out he was fielding 3-4 drop pods for free

>>50977759
>Or is the only bonus that you can start with them inside the vehicle on the first turn?
that's it

>Also if you have a 10 man tactical squad can you still choose a Razorback as your dedicated transport?
yes

> If so how do you handle the other five marines that don't fit?
they have to walk, or you use the razorback as a 55-point mobile heavy weapon instead of a transport

>>50977759
>Or is the only bonus that you can start with them inside the vehicle on the first turn?

This.

>If so how do you handle the other five marines that don't fit?

They have to walk, best not to do this.

>>50977736
12. Chimera has 12 transport spots. Everything in the IG codex has 0, 6 or 12 transport slots.

>>50977759
>If so how do you handle the other five marines that don't fit?

Split the squad in half, a 5 man squad with a special weapon stays in the Razorback and another with a heavy weapon starts on some ruin or objective.

>>50977743
Post your army and recent games, then.

>>50977743
Few are artists, all are critics.

>>50977793
>>50977809
>>50977821

Got it, thanks.

If you did have a ten man squad and took a Razorback and five of them had to hoof it do they still have to try and maintain cohesion?

>>50977817
I'm saying the idea that just because they're visibly female that they're sexualized is wrong and implies that it's impossible not to think of the female body as anything but a sex object.

Their armour is supposed to make them look FEMALE and to make them look POWERFUL.
It's supposed to be female empowerment, not 'fap bait'. That fact that some people get off to it is meaningless.

>>50977865
no, you'd have to split the unit via the combat squad rule

>>50977865
You'd have to split them with the combat rule. Two squads of 5.

>>50977865

>>50977834


Nevermind.

Generally speaking are attack type vehicles worth the extra points cost and lessened transport capability, or is it better to have more Rhinos playing Crazy Taxi driving your squads around?

>>50977865
No, the rule called Combat Squads has you split into two squads of 5.

>>50977877
>look FEMALE
>look POWERFUL

Choose one.

>>50977916
False.

>>50977896
down to preference

I hate razorbacks compared to rhinos, others swear by them.

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>>50977787
>forgetting to spoonfeed thread links because 4chan baby can't read catalogue or use filters

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Where muh sexy gurls @

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>>50977916
>look FEMALE
>look POWERFUL
>Choose one.
Mordian Women.

Is basing your units a big deal for you guys?

Mine are all just black because I think they should blend in with whatever terrain I'm fighting on, otherwise you get stuff like rocks and grass when fighting inside of a Space Hulk or red Martian dirt when you're fighting in a green field.

Holy shit am I autism?

>>50973745
They at least have dreadknights and termie troops

>>50977877
Empowerment doesn't necessitate overly sexualized features.

I am just saying that they shouldn't be overly sexual intheir appearance. They should look heroic, not like pin-ups. I mentioned Joan of Arc because she served as an inspiration to those who followed her, just like the SoB should be. Joan of Arc is dignified, strong inthe face of adversity. Bayonetta, which I feel is what some want the SoB to be, is slutty and stupid, and is basically something a 12 year old boy wants.

It's possible to look female and not look overtly sexual.

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>>50977877
>>50977916
>>50977989

>>50973262
No. Anyone who says otherwise is a faggot.

They're not placed with Infiltrate, they're placed by the Cult Ambush special rule.

>>50977989
good female csm

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>>50977916

>>50977989

> PLEASE SHOOT AND/OR STAB ME IN WHAT IS LITERALLY THE MOST VULNERABLE PORTIONS OF MY BODY, WHERE I HAVE MANY VITAL ORGANS AND NOT EVEN ANY BONES TO COVER THEM UP, THANKS

>>50977937
You must be a roastie, sorry Heather, but men do not consider women intimidating.

>>50977993
>Look significantly less powerful than the men
>Don't even look very feminine

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>>50974429
Not sure how decent this list is but it's 3 SC boxes + 1 Skitarii Vanguard box. You'd still have ~80 points left over for upgrades and stuff.

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>>50977989
Right here

what are the movies 40k setting is somewhat based on? I know its really alot of things and more old books and sci-fi archetypes.
I'm watching dune now and am looking for more movies somewhat like that. (sick sci-fi animes are always accepted)
>also it would be nice if they were easily accessable

>>50977994
Black bases won't match with anything you're fighting on so you might as well give them a base for some decoration and cohesion. It's surprising how basing a model will improve it's overall look too.

>>50978030
>Look significantly less powerful than the men
>Don't even look very feminine
ANON, DON'T.
I'LL EAT YOUR FUCKING HEART.

>>50978059
Starship Troopers if you haven't.

>>50978059
Event Horizon, Starship Troopers, Alien/Aliens, Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

>>50978059
Kingdom of Heaven

>>50978059

Dredd

>>50977999
And I'm saying the sisters and their power armour are not sexual. Just because their form is clearly female it doesn't make them sexual.

People only kick up a shit about them because they get triggered by shitposters saying they're fapping to them every night.

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>>50978087
>Shit movie reuses soundtrack from much superior 13th Warrior

>>50978059
Predator, Catachans fight an unknown Xenos.

>>50973745
They're kinda like an entire army of Sternguard Veterans. Expensive dudes with tons of cool toys, but they die just as easy as any other marine.

>>50977095
>spray painting styrofoam
i guess if you want a puddle of poison waste, id seal it first with watered down white glue

>>50978059
Mad Max series

>>50978073
>>50978080
>>50978087
>>50978113
starship troopers is great
ill all those thanks alot anons

>>50978059
I'd second Event Horizon, Starship Troopers and Dredd

>>50978059
Brazil.

>>50978113

Such a good movie. I like that it was literally just a 'night in the life' of a Metro City cop instead of a big narrative thing like the Stallone movie was.

Starship Troopers is pretty much IG vs. Tyranids, you can follow it up with the Roughnecks TV show if you want some more narrative stuff instead of just BUUUGS!. Someone mentioned Event Horizon, excellent movie if you're looking at what The Warp does to humans. Mad Max Fury Road is Orks on Wheels.

There are also some direct to DVD CGI 40K movies I guess.

>>50978133
predator 2 is the fucking shit
>>50978178
I figured as such as well, but who hasnt seen mad max (I guess someone who hasn't seen dune yet)

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>>50978242

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The Dark Mechanicus/Chaos Space Marines are growing ever stronger.

>>50978259

>almost totally unfathomable
>basically describes him as the rapechild of a human and a mechanical tentacle monster

ok

>>50978270
How do you represent Dark Mechanicus on the tabletop?

>>50978242

>Now is the Time of Ending

Why do they not grasp why hinting at an apocalpyse, and using that phrasing in particular, is only going to alienate fans?

>>50978329
I don't, since I don't play 40K. I just collect, convert and paint.

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The new sisters look like fat pigs.

>>50978340
It's been the time of ending since about 4th edition.

>>50978344
Do you have a picture of your DM models?

>>50978367
THICKER

>>50978242
>art shows thin celestine
>model is fat

>>50978340

>alienate fans

I'm seeing more fans than ever giving a shit about the setting.

>>50978044
Your lacking in the Antitank department, and will need to throw all your points into that for it to work.

I want to play orks. I know that they suck, but damn if I don't love the bastards and I find myself wanting to make orky shit.

Is there any way to make the current ork options viable on the tabletop?

>>50978382
>>50978367

NOT FUCKING FAT GOD FUCKNGING DAMMIT

>>50978382

>>model is fat

If Celestine is fat then your mother is a few steps shy of a supermodel.

Do the GSC have any skyfire abilities? Or methods to bring down fliers?

>>50978382
More like celestine is THICC

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>>50978402
I should rephrase it to being
the new models are fatter than every single bit of previous artwork and models of sisters in the past, as well as this artwork shown >>50978242
defend it all you want, but the old sister designs where perfectly fine in my opinion, they just made them thicker in the stomach area.

>>50978383

I'm seeing more fans than ever bitching about the setting. I suppose you could call negative investment a type of investment.

>>50978371

And after the massive backlash the end times caused, it's pretty clearly time to retire that phrase.

>>50978340
>Why do they not grasp why hinting at an apocalpyse

We've been on 'Time of Ending' since 5th edition at least, the whole point of 40k is simultaneous massive apocalypses on a galactic scale so quit crying over a sentence.

>>50978420
ADL, Allied Guard, lots of TL Autocannons.

>>50978447

>I'm seeing more fans than ever bitching about the setting. I suppose you could call negative investment a type of investment.

Comic book industry does it all the time.

>>50978457
>>50978420
Also allied Flyrants

>>50978378
Unfortunately not on this computer. I'm using a blue and purple colour scheme, with orange for all the lenses and energy surfaces. Belisarius Cawl will be a tremendous addition, shame that he's only available in a triple-kit last I heard.

>>50978447
>And after the massive backlash the end times caused, it's pretty clearly time to retire that phrase.

Why?

>>50978259
>>50978242
More?

>>50978420
Exterminator autocannons with heavy bolter sponsons and hull on a leman russ

>>50978438

>but the old sister designs where perfectly fine in my opinion

The older designs were fine, but they definitely needed more variance in body types aside from the slim supermodel look. There should be big grizzled battle veterans who are all about the red meat. A little more beef on these sisters just makes them beefier than Wonder Skinnywoman.

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>>50978480

>>50978453

They're upselling the chaos apocalpyse hugely since the first Fenris book. Like, not "Chaos will flood into reality, Nids will eat everyone" but rather chaos progressively making direct headway towards an endgame it's hard to trust them on.

Let's face it, barring people who -want- to see Age of the Emperor, the best case scenario here is Abaddon getting team rocketed again and this all being an anticlimax.

And that is a pretty fucking shitty best case scenario to have. GW are writing themselves into a corner here.

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>>50978492

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>>50977989

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>>50978509
All the 40k stuff that's leaked so far.

>>50978504

>GW are writing themselves into a corner here.

Where have you been for the past two decades?

>>50978504
Chaos apocalypse has not been upsold recently, it has been the doom of the entire galaxy for multiple editions.

>>50978509
Are those some new BT models or just conversions?

>>50978492
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>>50978492
>new mission

Unbalanced shit that requires specific models and favours the loyalists

>table me or lose
Are we playing a mission?
>yeah I get fnp see
Fuck off

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>>50978526

>REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>50978509
>5325
>5293

What kind of points is that?

>>50978569
(10) a Marshal, that's new, right?

>>50978475

Because burning your fanbase once, then doing a long, drawn out tease where you offer some assurances you're not building up for a second burn with one hand and hinting in the lore text at the exact same direction as the burn with the other...

Fucking trainwreck. It's -exhausting- waiting to see how they fuck up next. Whether it's going to just be a roll your eyes fuckup, or a "Yeah we're not going to be actively supporting the game we sold you a metric ton of shit for anymore. Please, feel free to use our models in a game with no lore or rules relation to the old one" level of fuckup.

They've promised to not AoS the setting, it'd be business suicide to AoS the setting, but they could still surprise us with something almost as stupid, and they're not transparent enough to be trustworthy.

>>50978607

Relax. its just a blood angles gene seed collection bank.

>>50978625

5K point game obviously

>>50978625
Huge game, and narrative, so they give no fucks about balance.

>>50978569
>>50978632

>getting new models
>black templars

Choose one.

For real they gave SOB players some spooge to lick up with the new celestin. i doubt the black templars are getting much.

>>50978601

But the mission rules basically implies the 3rd company is wiped out.

>>50978634
You'd have to be some kind of tumblrina to get this triggered over them using a phrase they've been using for years.

>>50978654

You get $55 box sets to kitbash your special snowflake Black Templar company, bitch.

>>50978625
"fluffy"

>>50978544

I've been watching them do the eye of terror and storm of chaos campaigns, undo them because they were a trainwreck, learn nothing, redo storm of chaos but infinitely worse, and now ramp up to redo eye of terror.

You don't see where I'm fucking exhausted with their bullshit? I just want to play their damn game and maybe read a few crappy tie in novels once in a while.

>>50978656
Yeah that's fine, have the mission revolve around wiping or one side, but if you are going to do that you need to boost the army that is required to table the opposing army. It's pretty simple balance really.

Instead they make the army that has it easy to win tougher.. Fuck gw

>>50978666

I know some BT players that would be happy getting something since the last black crusade

>>50977335

It looks like someone spilled mustard and ketchup all over that land raider

>>50978683

>You don't see where I'm fucking exhausted with their bullshit? I just want to play their damn game and maybe read a few crappy tie in novels once in a while.

Clearly you're not exhausted because you're clearly still playing after these editions and clearly still reading Black Library.

>>50978625
Probably 5500 but they didn't max out points because they don't want to win so much as tell a good story/get this over with and go home.

>>50978659

I'm "triggered" over them treating a broad setting like it's a single story and hyping that it's the final fucking chapter. This is going to be a vapid waste of time anticlimax at best, a softer version of the AoS reboot at worst.

>>50978632
Looks like the old commander box plus black templar bits, theres nothing new in there unless its a new conversion kit.

>>50978730

Its worth asking, since almost all of them are robed. I can see GW repackaging kits into a Black Templar Strike Force box set which is basically just Dark Angels + Sternguard bodies with recycled sprues.

>>50978725
>I'm "triggered"

We can all see that.
What they're doing is using a story to advance the setting, a story named after a time period that they have already established.

If you don't like what happens then complain about it then, but don't get your panties in a bunch because the words time and end are used.

>>50978716

I mean that the news they're choosing to release of the setting leaves nothing but a weary, bitter taste of ash in my mouth lately. That the investment I have binds me to being unable to just tune this shit out until I know what stupid end to the campaign is coming, not in specifics but in what it means for my continued ability to enjoy it as an active member of the community rather than a crusty oldfag grumbling in the corner as the playerbase of other crusty oldfags dwindles and none of the fiction targets me anymore.

You know how hard it is to get a game of fantasy here nowadays? Everyone either does historicals, X-wing or goes to the local GW for 40k. There's almost zero fantasy community and even less AoS.

>>50978819

My basic complaint, boiled to a single sentence:

Their attempts to build hype and anticipation build only irritation and dread.

That's my complaint. Pretty much the rest of my rambling since the initial post is just clarifying that.

>>50978691
>Chaos guaranteed to go first unless Seize

You realize this is a huge benefit to the Chaos player, right?

>>50978828

>news

Yesterdecade's news, at best. Sounds like you're just being upset just to be upset. You have the freedom to be eternally butthurt, so be it.

>>50978828

Yeah fantasy dead for my group too, oddly though AoS is pretty big. All the 40k guys have an Aos army now, they never had fantasy

>>50978861

>Their attempts to build hype and anticipation build only irritation and dread.

IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF THE FUTURE THERE IS ONLY IRRITATION AND DREAD WHAT A SHOCKER

>>50978888

AoS is getting a lot of hype in battle report channels now, I wonder why. It feels like baseball to me - seems really fun and wacky to play yourself but otherwise a total bore to watch and appreciate.

>>50978872

>Yesterdecade's news, at best

Yes or no, they have begun a "13th black crusade wrecks face across the imperium" story, are describing it as "the time of ending" and we haven't seen the endgame of where they're going with this series of campaign books.

>>50978915

>we haven't seen the endgame of where they're going with this series of campaign books

Good.

>>50978725
>I'm "triggered" over them treating a broad setting like it's a single story

40k has always been told as if the Imperium was the protagonist and while its besieged by a thousand enemies their main enemy has always been Chaos, since like Rogue Trader/2nd edition, the whole thing started with the Horus Heresy and with the Emperor being a weapon against Chaos.

If there's a final chapter to 40k then thats going to be Imperium vs Chaos, that has always been the premise and as far as your complain goes its a bit unfounded as GW has already said everyone will get something and in this one book we already get Necrons and some DEldar thrown into the mix plus the previous campaigns that have moved the story forward.

Grow a fucking pair and get your tits untwisted or burn your fucking army because a single sentence triggered you.

>>50978938

>because a single sentence triggered you.

If you mean this literally rather than as a fantastically obtuse insult, you're a fucking idiot.

There is a metric shitton of stuff bothering me about this, that phrase alone would be meaningless.

>>50978691
>>50978867

Not to mention the Fist player can have no Reserves (so no drop pod antics) and the Chaos player can set up anywhere on the table that's 18 inches away from an enemy model, essentially giving them all Infiltrate with no downside.

For a World Eater player, that's more or less GG right there.

>>50978059
Hellraiser 1+2

>>50978993

>that phrase alone would be meaningless
>constantly gives meaning to that phrase

stop posting and adopt a new years resolution to improve your mental well being

>>50978801
There used to be a BT chapter upgrade kit that would get you about 10 initiates and 5 or so terminators worth of conversion bits, but they stopped supporting that around the end of 6th or beginning of 7th.

>>50978938

>If there's a final chapter to 40k then thats going to be Imperium vs Chaos

You know, it's actually kinda bizzare how much GW ignore how much they've grown their setting out.

The Galaxy has seen races rise and fall many times, the idea that the fall of the current top dog territory holder is the end of all things is pretty lame now even if it wasn't back before things got fleshed out more.

Just me? We have the old ones falling a jillion years ago, the Eldar falling now, humans about to fall and Tau on the rise.

Cycle of history rise and fall of empires is way more interesting than "Lol Khorne's gonna eat the universe"

>>50978915
I assume they mean that we've been here before with the EoT book.

>>50978861
I'm with you. Rather than excite me to play 40k, it's basically killed my interest for the time being.

Would 40k players be happy with a consistent ruleset and reasonably balanced codexes and no more updates from there, except sprue updates and supplements? GW would just exist to sell kits and BL books.

Or would you rather advance the setting in an Age of the Emperor way?

>>50979022

You're the one monofocusing on it, buddy, I've posted a bunch of autistic walls of text covering a broad bunch of reasons I have my pants in a twist over a bunch of rules and fluff incompetent Nottingham modelmakers.

Curse the shiny allure of their judge dredd/Elric of Melniboné/dune crossover fanfiction.

>>50979034
It still is on the webstore, its a great upgrade kit with a bunch of shit but its also stupid old and all the connecting bits are male so its a hassle to make it work on newer kits like the tactical box.

>>50979075

The Imperium has always been the focus of the story.

If I remember right the rulebook literally says "The fate of Mankind is in your hands". Whether that means you're protecting the Imperium or destroying it, it's still going to be the focus.

>>50979075

Orks don't sell.
Tyranids don't sell (anymore).
Eldar have been written off as a jobber race so GW has an excuse to merge Eldar and Dark Eldar army lists.
Tau are experiencing their own 13th Blackpocalypse right now with their empire halved in two and the Tyranids about to om nom everything.

If anything, expect major developments along the lines of Imperial elements exploiting the Webway to make deals with the Eldar (already happened) and Tau to forge an alliance of mutual survival over the next decade.

>>50978059
I'm surprised noone mentioned Galaxy of Terror

>>50979075
>Cycle of history rise and fall of empires is way more interesting than "Lol Khorne's gonna eat the universe"

I don't think so. Cycles are boring if they can't be broken.

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>>50979005
Only if the Spess muhren player is a complete idiot. You can have a line of expendable chaff to keep the enemy back and let them die in that turn 1 charge. Afterwards just scoop the enemy with those sternvets and their AP3 bolters.

>>50979156

Then break them up, not break them down.

Final Fantasy 10 ended with Sin dying, not Sin eating the world.

>>50979034
It's still available to buy online, but it's very outdated; the torsos don't fit with new space marine torsos.

>>50979182

>entire strategy revolves around dying tacticals and bolters

This is why the IFs keep dying out.

>>50979189
>Final Fantasy 10 ended with Sin dying, not Sin eating the world.

Not every story needs to end happily ever after you big babby.

>>50979189

It's Final Fantasy X.

Not 10 you dribbling fuck.

>>50979222

Technically it didn't, since Tidus died, Yuna went insane and fucked his corpse, and Yuna went off on a quest to revive Tidus by reviving Sin.

>>50979222

>Not every story needs to end happily ever after you big babby

Massive amount of breathing room between a happy ending and the end of the universe.

Hell, the universe ending is actually -less- Grimdark than the status quo. An end to the suffering.

>>50979265
>Hell, the universe ending is actually -less- Grimdark than the status quo. An end to the suffering.

Holy slitwrists

>>50979214
>thinks you should only pick tacts

I said sternvets you fucking dingus. It wouldnt hurt to have some Anti-air and Cents.

>>50979343

Well what were you going to use for expendable chaff? Boxnought spam?

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>>50979376
>Boxnought spam?

Best kind of expendable chaff.

>>50972740
does anyone know how many fusion blasters you get in each box of stealth suits?

>>50979075
If the imperium falls then why do you think Tau will be the next great empire?

If the imperium falls chaos will rise to the absolute hight of their power, chaos will rule the galaxy.

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>>50979376
Scouts with a single flamer.

Having tacts sitting out of LoS and/or in a reinforced ruin also helps because even a single model on the table in the end means you win.

>>50979423

Because he hasn't read the latest lore, obviously. Tau are stuck in their own annihilation event and will probably be forced to flee into Imperial territory if they don't discover their own death star.

>>50979423

>Chaos managing to run a stable, Galaxy wide society

Lol.

>>50979444
I don't keep up with fluff too much, why are the Tau so fucked?

>>50979423
No, necrons are literally in the middle of their own great crusade of unification.

Nothing anyone but the Eldar have comes close to their technology and only orks, chaos and humans rival their numbers.

Except necrons are immune to chaos, intimidation, attrition, exhaustion etc.

>>50979441
>combi-flamer

>>50979413
one

>>50979475
Tyranids, Necrons, Orks, Imperium all on a collision course to explicitly fuck them into extinction.

>>50979496
omfg the jews.

i need 6 of those fuckers for my squad.

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Ive got some Biel-Tan eldar lying around and Im trying to get back into the game, all I have is the 6th edition rulebook- what supplements should I get and what units are best now?.

>>50979485

Necrons might not have to worry about falling to Chaos but that doesn't mean that Chaos soldiers can't rip them to pieces physically.

That, and isn't there some old fluff about the ultimate goal of the Necrons (or at least some of the Necrons) returning to flesh?

Also, if they really want to regain the empire they think is "rightfully theirs" odds are they'd rather get it while it's still in good shape instead of after Chaos takes a fat chaotic shit all over it.

>>50979211
>>50979135
Oh shit, it was gone for a while. I just gave up on it. The male connection doesn't bother me, I just trimmed it off and made it fit myself.

Time to order a few.

>>50979500

Well the Necrons kept fucking with them and caused the loss of a few worlds.
The orks never really left them alone.
The Imperium just completed their second invasion, killed their leader, and left the empire heaved in two as a cherry on top of their pyrrhic victory.
The Tyranids are about to shove their collectively dicks into each half of the Tau to finish them off.

The Tau Empire will die horribly, and Farsight will end up taking his Enclave along with those Tau who would flee with him through some Webway gate because he is the only Tau in the galaxy who has an inkling of what the fuck is really going on in the galaxy.

>>50979142
>Tyranids don't sell

Clearly you don't know how well GSC did. There are a ton of fans who would shell out for good shit.

>>50979413
One

>>50979547
>and Farsight will end up taking his Enclave along with those Tau who would flee with him through some Webway gate because he is the only Tau in the galaxy who has an inkling of what the fuck is really going on in the galaxy.

When the Warhammer TV guys talked about The Gathering Storm for the first time, they mentioned that there would be something in it for everyone's armies. Which got me thinking about how on earth the Tau could get involved, seeing as they're on the other side of the galaxy. Farsight showing up there via the Webway actually makes a fair bit of sense, especially as, like you say, he actually does have an idea of just how major the Fall of Cadia would be to the state of the galaxy.

>>50979560

Yes, but GSC is not Tyranids.

>>50979510
you do realise not all the stealth suits can take the fusion blaster right ? iirc its only the leader guy or 1 in 3 guys that can.

Is it just me, or are devastators kind of shit (outside of skyhammer)?

>>50979585
That's true, but that doesn't change the fact that Tyranids are a huge line and people buy a lot of shit from it.

>>50979602
oh god you are right

i need to remake my list. shit.

>>50979603

Devastators are supposed to be an affordable option for players who can't/won't into buying $50-80 tanks.

>>50979603
Most space marine units are shit.

>>50979612

No argument there, I just preodered two of their armoured assaults. Now I will have 9 tervigons and over 250 guants

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Sorry lads apparently my IP was blocked for a bit.His turn two. He shot my Guard some more shot my plasma vets just enough to knock them off the objective to score a point. Then he had some crucial charges: His terminators and lord managed to make into combat with my Guardsmen but he failed his charge against my plasma vets on double ones.

>>50978002
spooky.

>>50979616
They don't come onto the board using Infiltrate though. The rule is that if you would place a model using Infiltrate, you may place it with Cult Ambush instead

>>50979500
Orks are just being Orks to them, there is no huge WAAGH threatening them.

Don't know about crons threatening them, only a few lost worlds.

The split isn't that bad as it's not a real civil war and farsight still comes to the aid of the empire when shit gets real.

The imperials just finished doing what damage they could and fucked off so they're no longer a threat.


The only real threat they have to worry about is tyranids because a fuck huge hive fleet is heading right for them and genestealers have apparently infected a ton of their worlds.

>>50979630

No one is reading your posts because your screencaps are the size of the murals in the Sistine Chapel.

>>50979662
Dude are you retarded? Are you that faggot from the other thread that lives on a farm?
Just turn on image hover you stupid newfag

>>50979625
>4mb

omg so big.

Also fuck you, what are you contributing to the thread other than shitposting? I have been reading his stuff the last few threads and it's nice to have, you know, actual 40k stuf in the 40k thread.

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>>50979630
Then my plasma vets wrecked shit. Killing his entire unit of multilators while only losing one Guardsman to Get's Hot. The rest of my shooting was terrible but I managed to score first blood which scored me another point. My outflanking Demolishers and Melta vets in a Chimera only taking off two hullpoints from his Land Raider and my other Russes immobilized a Rhino while he continued killing Guardsmen in melee.

>>50979662

Whats wrong with big pics? its not like they take a long time to load or anything and they have good detail

>>50979655

And then Farsight had to leave immediately to stop the Tyranids from om noming his Enclave worlds and making penetration into the actual Tau Empire. And then the Tau was taken down from the height of its power to a military in tatters with its territory divided in two and ready for devouring.

If the Imperium are 10 seconds til midnight, the Tau are 3 seconds til midnight. Unlike the humans, the Eldar don't have any special reasons to save the Tau.

>>50979683
woops was meant for
>>50979662

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>>50979686
My outflanking units.

>>50979700

well, I guess you gave me a (You) so all good

>>50979630
Don't listen to them. Even if we automatically accepted all of their criticisms as valid your still infinitely better than the 12 other guys who spend all thread bitching about the next update. Keep Going.

>>50979717

The Creed is strong in this one.

>>50979717
>Outflanking Demolishers

This is what dreams are made of!

>>50979692
Right, civil conflict isn't the problem it's the tyranids.

>>50979717

god that fucking land raider is hideous and not in a good way

looks like some fuck spilled ketchup and mustard all over the fucker and then decided not to use any wash.

>>50979747

Its one hole in many holes on the sinking ship of the Tau Empire. And one hole is bad enough.

>>50979762

What if its the player's blood? Like if he literally painted it with drops of his blood? You have to respect that, right?

>>50979779
it wouldnt look like that though

>>50979779

I've seen blood dripped on models and it looks way fucking better than that garbage

also if the red is his blood what the fuck is the yellow? his piss?

>>50979779

The only things I've seen that bleed yellow are pimples and bugs.

>>50979800
>>50979779

man this guy is going way out of his way to mark his land raider with his blood and pimples

>>50979688
That's not quite how it works. Screen resolution, photo clarity and focus, etc will all make it pretty much moot to post a raw sized picture with the average camerawork.

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Guardsmen (barely) holding the line.

>>50979655

Yeah, the Tau seem to be doing basically okay. There's a hive fleet on the way, but that's basically always happening to the Galaxy since they turned up.

>>50979830
Okay now those terminators just look awful. I almost didn't mind the land raiders, but wow.

>>50979850
Wheres your shit then michaelangelo?

>>50979830
Is that guardsmen drunk? Kek.

>>50979519
You don't need any supplements. Wraithknights, Wraithguard, and Jetbikes are very powerful at the moment. Don't spam them and you can still make friends.

>>50979717
Does that Land Raider have ketchup on it?

>>50978509
Wow, the Saint is tiny

>>50979864
Dont bother he won't respond. He's probably a grey tau player.

>>50979830
Can we get an answer to the random blobs though? They do look pretty weird.

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>>50979864
I'll admit that I've not finished a single model yet, but I don't need to be a master to know that splotching on color like that doesn't make it nurglish just like splattering red randomly on Berzerkers doesn't make them Khornish.

>>50979890
>Can we get an answer to the random blobs though?

Its Death Guard, its supposed to look like shit.

And if its not Death Guard, then I don't fucking know man.

>>50979907

Filthy pepsi drinking scum. Get the fuck out!

>>50979915
>my expensive luxury hobby is supposed to look like shit

I hope you get hit by a car so we never see your terrible grey guardsmen on mars again

why the fuck did you paint their legs with the texture paint?

did they fall into a swamp on mars?

>>50979830
Well now we know what the Guardsman from last thread is doing: Backpedaling in fear!

Also, c'mon, Commissar! At least have the decency to turn around and help!

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>>50978489

>muh healthy at every size
>fatass sjw cuck detected

They're fat.

>>50979907
anon, don't use pure white. Start with Celestra grey and layer up ulthuan grey.

Only use pure white for highlights.

>>50979928
I quit drinking soda a couple years ago when I decided it'd be nice to be able to run 3 miles without dying. I never knew what people meant by Pepsi being too sweet until I tried some after like a year.

Best decision I've made yet.

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>>50979519
Codex Craftworlds. Saim-Hann and Iyaden's specialties are the current OP bullshit.

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He managed to kill one of my Demolishers with a lascannon from his LR but by now it wasn't enough. Melta vets get three pens and explode his Land Raider(killing some of their own in the process). Then Demolisher actually becomes fucking useful and explodes a Rhino giving me a point for armored assault. Then my Battle Tank wrecks the fuck out of some Plague Marines,taking about half of their unit out with a Direct Hit. Then Vanquisher and Executioner wipe another unit out leaving only one survivor. And plasma vets melta bomb a Land Raider and explode it scoring me two points for destroying three enemy units.

>>50979950
I keep getting stuck on whether I want a bone white for a withered look, or a more pearlish look like they maintain their armor like I'd imagine space knights would.

This is all just an excuse to never paint them, because I still can't decide on how to paint black.
I do like how the almost charcoal gray-black looks in this though.
>>50973197

I just can't figure out how to make it look good, and I don't want to use much edge highlighting outside of weathering on vehicles or something.

>>50979996
Yeah, the black is nice. Problem with pure white is it ends up chalky.

>>50979996

Buy artificer tint set.
Mix the artificer white with ironbreaker until you get metallic white
Paint shiny white armor

>>50979931
It's dust it gets on everything faggot.

>>50980010
Found that out the hard way. And the thing is, I don't really want it looking pure black. Maybe I just need to finish up a test model so the black doesn't look so prominent. Otherwise I'll trying shading it a dark gray with lines where light would hit.

>>50980017
Any examples for the result? I may use that for swords or Sisters if I go with a white armor theme.

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>>50980043
And then this.

>>50980043

>deadly guns filled with a mix of ketchup and mustard

kill it now

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>>50978509
So Im assuming this formation is basically

Marshall
2 Platoons
2 Crusader squads
0-X Assault Squad/Sternguard/Ogryns/Bullgryns

With everything else added via unbound or another formation, if thats the case then that could be nice I guess.

I wonder if the "Marshall" will be a new unit or if thats just a name they gave the captain/chapter master to fit the narrative of the White Dwarf. Personally I hope Marshalls and Castellans come back, would not mind getting a Marshall that can nominate a Sword Brother to be a Castellan and they get some bonus out of it.

God damn it I cant fucking wait, havent been this hyped since fucking forever.

>>50980017
Anyone have pics of the result of this?

I use Ulthuan grey over some Vallejo light gray I had left over for my Templars.

>>50980059

>Any examples for the result? I may use that for swords or Sisters if I go with a white armor theme.

The set is too new, but check out the official GW demo video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QksrFJyT5A4

>>50979947
They aren't fucking fat, Anon.

>>50980078
I really want a Marshall model, and a plastic Emperor's Champion.

A plastic Grimaldus would be awesome but I doubt we'll get that, seeing as he is tied up on Armageddon.

>>50980078
I think it's a model, because they make it clear that Sword Brethren are Sternguard.

Its so nice coming back into the hobby now that I am not 13 anymore.

I don't feel the need to BUY BUY BUY. I'm just buying one thing at a time, taking my time to clean it and paint it so it looks nice, then I'll play with whatever I have.

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After he finally killed the last of my blob he consolidated his Warlord to go after my command squad to kill my Psyker and score a point but by this time there really wasn't any way he could catch up with my lead since he had so little on the table. So after turn five (even though the game would have continued) he called it there and conceded. It was a fun as fuck game and I hope you enjoyed my batrep of it /tg/. It's rare to face another fully painted and based army.

>>50980088
Thats pretty fucking cool looking. Think it would work with black or dark gray?

>>50979830

Where did he paint his terminators, 31 Flavors?

>>50980163

Its ironbreaker so it would work period - although ironbreaker is already greyish.

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>>50980112
>>50980124
The model itself looks like this guy but with Templar bits, could mean we get the Deathwatch treatment of normal Marine kits plus a new conversion kit thrown in just like we did in 3rd edition when the current kit was released OR Templars get nothing and its just this model with the current conversion kit.

I wouldnt be unhappy if thats all we get as Im more interested in rules.

>>50973197
>the plot is moving forward
I don't know how to feel

>>50979952

>run 3 miles without dying

Fuck man, I couldn't run out of sight.

Maybe I should stop drinking soda.

>>50980216

>Black Templar regrouping in the Webway

magical things are about to happen

>people bitch about noone having fully painted and based minis
>guy posts a game where both armies are
>"HURR DURR SHITTY PAINTJOBS REEEEEEEE"

stay fucking hypocritical 40kids

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Recommend me a book that isn't the Comissar stuff or some beginner-friendly HH book.

>>50980222
Stop drinking soda, eat more meat and vegetables, squat.

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>>50980109

You must be a chubby-chaser.

The new models are fat. Adding too much armour under the corset ruins the look.

Sisters of Cattle is more appropriate.

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>>50980241
>stay fucking hypocritical 40kids
>implying those are the sample
>implying that in some instances they demand excellence.
>implying that those colours were horrible,
>thin paints.

>>50979870
It's the smell of shit and AIDs anon. It makes even the strongest Guardsmen queasy.

>>50980241

His army is grey and looks unprimed/unpainted in literally every picture taken more than 6" away from them, and the Martian Ironearth looks like shit because the contrast between it and the models is too high.

The other guy has a bunch of units that look like a clown jizzed all over them. Those red and yellow splotches make no sense.

I'm glad to see a couple of fully painted armies but still.

>>50980266

Index Astartes
Horus Heresy Books 1-6
Imperial Armor: The Badab War Part I-II

>>50980222
It feels good to improve yourself like that. Use the couch-to-5k plan and pace yourself carefully. Give it 2-4 months and you will be able to do quite a bit.

>>50980205
How dark should I mix it? Should I basecoat with leadbelcher? I'm excited by this tint set.

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>>50980301
So more like this?

>>50980278
>Adding too much armour under the corset ruins the look.

So you admit they aren't fat and that it's just armour. Like I was saying.