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Celestine>Abaddon edition.

>Previous thread
>>50968957

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First for the Death Guard.
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early for old Rhinos a cute
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>>50973507
Death Guard minus Death is best faction.
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>>50973521
The old Rhino is ok but the old Razorback turret a shit. A SHIIIIIIIIT.
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>>50973521
That's a razorback you dummy
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>>50973504

Battle for Vedros
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Re-posting because I'd like to talk more about interesting AM/IG lists. I'd also like to get clarification about unit aoe buffs that are inside transports.

>>50972828
I like it, but instead of Plasma Guns for the Infantry Squads, I'd go for Autocannons and Flamers/Grenade Launchers. Having 5 Flamers that can do Wall of Death for anyone charging is nice.

One thing I am not sure about. It's something I wondered about for any unit in a Chimera giving out buffs. I don't think the Aquila can give out the Preferred Enemy special rule if the guy is in the Chimera, since he's ruled as being off the table while in a transport. If that is the case, you might want to give them longer range weapons and camo cloaks. Maybe a Master of Ordnance too so you can split fire that unit and have him fire at a different target. Astropath could be nice addition to that squad as well if you roll Invisibility or Shrouding.
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>>50973545
>>50973549

I know, I just don't have a picture of an old Rhino.

Picked one up the other day, am currently priming it.
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For steel legion
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How can I get IG vets to Infiltrate?
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>failbaddon the armless invades cadia
>gets beaten up by a girl while necrons laugh at him
Who should be the face of chaos marines after he dies then?
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>>50973521
Here you go anon, an old rhino
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>>50973598
That doesn't happen though. It's just a battle report.
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>>50973598
Abaddon is probably going to be replaced by Drach nyen free from the sword form, that's probably also why GW haven't update Abaddon's model.
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>>50973609

It's funny, literally zero of the used mk1 Rhinos for sale anywhere still have the metal bars that run around the top. They must be fragile as fuck.
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In the grimdarkness of the far future, there is only fat sisters waging war on physically fit men
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>>50973609
How do the side doors open if the metal bar is in the way?
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A question from a newb to 40k here

I want to get into 40k and for some reason I just like the Tau, in the way they look and the way the supposedly play, with combined arms and all that
What would be a good way to start with that?
Which miniatures would be a good start?
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>>50973657

The Tau box labelled "Start Collecting".
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>>50973638
They aren't fat, god fucking dammit, Anon. Stop this. End this faailed meme, fuck's sake.
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>>50973680
???????
I wish it were only a meme
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>>50973702
They aren't fat, god fuckng dammit, they look fine for muscular women in power armour.

Jesus Christ, Anon.
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>>50973550

Cheap as shit (especially if you split the starter box between a Space Marine and an Ork player, that's a TON of shit for only $25) but literally only good if you desperately need Space Marines or Orks and don't mind that they're monopose pushfit models and all of the vehicles are outdated.

Or if you are a poorfag but still want to play 40K, in which case you won't be getting the best models available but you'll be getting a really good value out of it.

Or if you want to use them for their intended purpose, which is to get kids into the hobby.
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>>50973680
>>50973702
Sisters of battle use mass produced power armour, only VIPs can afford ultra slim fap bait power armour.
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>>50973729
I don't even have play Orks but I would consider getting one of those Trukks, putting AoBR Warboss on it for that
>drive me close, I want to hit them with my claw
feel
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>>50973729
To be fair those trucks are golden because of their low profile, they'll get totally obscured save almost always or flat out of line of sight.
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Nurgle daemons need a heavy support option. Every other god has one, weird that Nurgle doesn't.
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>>50973763
Plague Hulk not good enough for you?
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>>50973750

Yeah but do you really want to be that guy?
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>>50973772

Nurgle daemons need a heavy support option in their standard codex.
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>>50973719
>>50973737
they look like ogryns in power armor
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>>50973763
>>50973797

Soul Grinder you tit
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>>50973815

>Skull Cannon OF KHORNE
>Seeker Chariot OF SLAANESH
>Burning Chariot OF TZEENTCH
>Soul Grinder

ONE OF THESE KIDS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER
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>>50973815
>>50973772

That's not a burning chariot/skullcannon/seeker chariot though. No love for Palaquins
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>>50973737
>only VIPs can afford ultra slim fap bait power armour.
Celestine is about as VIP as SoB get.
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Can you run a fast assault army with sisters?
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>>50973856
not in the next update, they'll be too fat to run :^)
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>>50973773
>Orks
>cheese
Even Buzzgob's Stompa doesn't come close to anything that could be called cheese in today's meta.
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>>50973856
Sisters do mech very well but I assume you already played them mech and want something faster. If not then go buy more Rhinos. If so then you can spam Seraphim and Dominions, I guess, to Scout/rush/Reserves shenanigans your enemy.
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>>50973846
She chose protection over looks, also she is wearing Dominica's armour, she was more conservative about armour.
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>>50973747

Almost makes me wonder if that trukk would make a good counts-as bike for a warboss on bike with that pose...
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>>50973883

Fair enough. Orks need all the help they can get.

The Space Marine assault kit is pretty nice, five Terminators plus a Dreadnought for $40 GW (so probably closer to $30 online) is a damn good price. Shame the models are so shitty though.
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>>50973986

Clean your keyboard, mong
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Militarum tempestus yay or nay?

i have $200 in vouchers at GW, i dont "need" anything for my other armies - i like the look of the stormtroopers and the valkyrie is my favorite flyer in 40k - thought perhaps id pick their starter box and the valkyrie up to have something different to paint and maybe use the 10 scions in a valkyrie as an allied detatchment. in a game or something i dont know. Thoughts? i have no fucking clue how to spend these vouchers.
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>>50973814
>they look like ogryns in power armor
You're saying it as if that was a bad thing.
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>tfw need a plastic GUO
>tfw not good enough at green stuffing to make one
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>>50974038

That's not my keyboard, I just googled for the first picture I could find of the assembled kit to see what the models looked like.
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>>50974053
>Zarya
Thanks, now I have to deal with an erection...
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>>50973986
It's like you've opened a portal that leads to a GW 20 years in the past. What the fuck? Why would they reintroduce the old Terminators at this point in the game's lifetime?

The Dread isn't so bad. Isn't it the AoBR Dread? What with the smaller smokestack, FUCKING plastic multi-melta and the fact that its actual kit is still ancient anyway.

Have you primed those dudes or is the plastic just that color? Also clean your desk my man

>>50974049
Scions models are cool but they are the victims of GW's early adventures into CAD and suffer from monoposing issues. A small army of them should be okay as long as you don't need too many plasma guns. As an army, just imagine Imperial Dark Eldar and you've got a good idea.
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>>50974049

Give 'em to me I'll spend them for ya ;^)
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>>50973883

The closest thing to cheese Orks get are mek gunz, biker heavy lists, big mek shield walls (but this is a significant points investment, and requires compromise/risk on number HQs) and kustom stompas, but of course the first two are prohibitively expensive if you want to do them properly, KFF spam is a lot of effort for something that chaos demons get as standard, and Kustoms got errata'd out of existence

The Codex stompa isn't terrible, it just incredibly balanced/fair to the point where anything even slightly undercosted has a massive advantage
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>>50974063
Kingdom Death: Monster -> Gorm Expansion
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Copying from dead thread:
If I have a unit of 3 Incubi, an Archon, and a Succubus. Can they all be 1 unit inside a dedicated Venom? And does it have to be specifically someone's Venom, or can any of them take it as the dedicated transport and be lumped in there?
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>>50974083

see

>>50974072

The Battle for Vedros stuff is pretty much just AoBR sprues though. I guess GW figured since the kits are low cost and aimed at people who don't know anything about 40K they wouldn't notice that all of the models are ancient at the point.
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>>50974053
might as well go fuck a man with a vagina
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>>50974107
Independent character's can join units inside a transport during deployment. You can do this. Its up to you if you want to make the venom dedicated or a fast attack section, the only reason i see for a fast attack venom in this case might be to fill out mandatory fast attack sections for the realspace raiders detachment.
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>>50974096
You forgot Stikkboss. Against a player who doesn't know about him and lacks large amounts of AP2 he can and will walk all over their army singlehandedly, I've seen it done.

>the Codex stompa isn't terrible
It's shit. It is bad even compared to Baneblades and other slightly-overcosted LoWs especially in a game where the superheavy scene is run by Knights, most of which are pretty fair. Kustom Stompas were okay because you could build them on the cheap to do one task and do it decently well enough. Tbqh you're going to be looking in IA8 for Buzzgob anyway so you may as well double down and say fuck the world and use them anyway.

Also
>biker heavy
WS, Dangles, fuck even Nurgle CSM do it so much better it's not even funny, and let's not even mention literally any flavor of Eldar. Ork bikers are decent but in terms of external balance they are just as low as the rest of the codex.
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>>50974063
Why not Glottkin?
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>>50973883

Buzzgob's Stompa is terrible.

It'd only be worth it if it was 300 points when fully upgraded.
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>>50974156

The riders are like, integral to the construction, right? Like, you need to sculpt bits to make up for them?
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>>50974144
I've got Reavers and Scourges for that. Asking this because I'm playing an Apoc game next week and want to use as much as I can. Good to know that I can do that, thanks.
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>>50974083
yeah they seem pretty monopose - not that big a problem for me, their armour doesnt give of the "ultra grimdarkness" of a DKK soldier, not is it as amazing as the panzercorps officers from Jin-Roh, their fluff is pretty nonsense aswell - afaik they used to be a unit in the IG codex that GW tried to make its own faction and it failed horribly, and changed their old fluff into something along the lines of Mindcontrolled psychopath killing machines rather than just normal humans but with superior equipment and training = no future releases. Could a purchase of their starter + the flyer be a base for a future Imperial guard army? (WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY into the future maybe, i love me some ghost dvision tank models) or should i just get the IG stuff at once instead of bothering with them?
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Carcharadons are my favorite chapter now.

I want to see more from them. Their new book chapter 1 is pretty interesting.
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>>50974149

>It is bad even compared to Baneblades

I'd lump Baneblades into the same tier of inadequate as Stompas given Super-Heavy tanks fall short compared to Super-Heavy Walkers.
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>>50974214
bmasomda63
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>>50973702
That's fucking fat to you?

She has wider hips, which is a physical trait of, you know, females.
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>>50973856
No, they don't have an assault transport , so seraphim are their only fast unit that can assault, but they' can potentially kill off a basic unit they left half-dead after their shooting, but they aren't going to be winning assaults against tougher units.

You could maybe try flooding the board with repentia, arco-flagellants and penitent engines if you wanted an assault based army, but I don't think it would work very well, they aren't really cheap enough to really horde it they and die too quickly.

Or you could run an army in transports that drives into the enemy's face and kills them with fire, if you wanted to play it lose with the definition of assault.
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>>50974143
>being intimidated by tall muscular women
Ha! what a fag!
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>tfw now BAs can't take assault marines as troops, you straightup can't make a loyalist marine army focused on assault
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>>50974242
its more the wide stomach, especially on the left one, which actually looks fat (with the wide face). I know its simply them running it in line with the space marine power armor but they do look healthy at any size at first glance.
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>>50973814
You into kids, anon?
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>>50974277

> What are Space Wolves

Fun fact, a TH/SS Wulfen will kill a Carnifex 1-vs-1.
That's a single Wulfen, not a squad. Literally one.

Not to mention 'Cursing' your army and rolling with a bunch of WS5 cavalry.
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Cadia will fall. Inquisitor Greyfax has been realised by Tranzyn from his tesseract vault and Tranzyn will be on Cadia, Phalanx will show on Cadia(fist will fight daemons will fight daemons) to fight Planetkiller(Be'lakor will do "fuck you Abaddon"?), Belisarius is trying to undersatand how cadian pylons work.
Image is showing Imperial forces reatriting from cadia guided by the Celestin's vision.
Greyfax is ML2 psyker
We will have new "Empyric Storm" chart
No new Abaddon model

Source new White Dwarf
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>>50974242

A lot of 40K players aren't very knowledgeable on the physical traits of females my friend
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>>50974173
In the GW page they look like they're separate pieces, so there wouldn't be any problem, perhaps a few nurglings on were they stand will cover the holes for them, or horns, or pustules or wounds.
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>>50973630
>It's funny, literally zero of the used mk1 Rhinos for sale anywhere still have the metal bars that run around the top. They must be fragile as fuck.

Yep. Shit broke if you looked at themm funny.
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You guys ready to have the same set of formations printed again for the 4th time?
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>>50974214


>Harvesting entire planets barren of Imperial Citizens to feed your slave galleys / eat / steal recruits from

>Interesting

Edgiest fucking thing in 40k since Curze, thanks for ruining Carcharodons, MacNiven.
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>>50974260
>intimidated
>laughingwhores.gif
More like disgusted, there's a difference. I prefer a woman with a womanly figure, not one reminiscent of a man.

>>50974242
If it were only the hips that were wider, and not the whole body, I would be pretty fine with it.

>>50974283
only someone with a closet fetish for kiddies could make an impossible connection like that, kys
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>>50974302
I made a mistake
image is showing Imperial escape from forces of chaos leded by Celestine vision but not from cadia but moon of Klaisus (how the hell did they get there i don't konw
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>>50974302
>No new Abaddon model
That's because he dies at the end of the campaign.
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>>50973583
Play GSC instead
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>>50974367
>implying it won't end with Trazyn freezing him and putting him up for display
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>>50974302


All this talk about Pylons and Trayzn and 10,000 year old Magos examining pylons... PYLONS...Cadia falls anyway. Black Templars run away with their tail between their legs


This is rubbish...
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>>50974367
>Inb4 Chaos Undivided Daemon Prince Abbadon.
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>>50974351
Even if the whole body is wider, the proportions are just more realistic now. No where near fat.

Not being stick thin =/= fat
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>>50974367
He died in battle report not in campaign.
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>>50973583
In the current codex, you dont.

You can deep strike Storm Troopers (scions) and have them do the same thing.

>>50973555
Plasmas belong to veterans or CCS. Flamers and GL are good because theyre cheap, autocannon is wasted in combined squads, have them in HWT instead so they can just sit and fire.
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>>50974351
>muscular women aren't feminine if they're are more muscular than me
>anon is probably a fatass neckbeard that never have attempted to stay fit
>believes he deserves any kind of women
Ha! What a virgin!
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>>50974388
>>50974399
>>50974418
>abaddon floods cadia with daemons, opening the eye of terror
>siege of terra 2.0
>emperor gets revived by something, possibly eldar/dark eldar or whatever
>he battles a super empowered abaddon, wins, but gets put back on the throne due to his new injuries
>nothing changes but abaddons dead, maybe a few primarchs from both sides come back
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>>50974351
You need to play Danganronpa and see the error of your ways.
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>>50974396
Templars might just be making a tactical retreat in the face of overwhelming odds. They're zealous, not stupid. Of retreating now means a greater possibility of victory at a later point they'll probably retreat.
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>>50974461

>Super powered Abaddon

>Magnus the Red kit with Upgrade Sprue
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>>50974396
While that does suck, it's important to remember 2 things:
1) we don't have all the fluff yet. They may run away, but they could still achieve some major goal that will be instrumental in stoping abby.
2) something is definitely off about this campaign. We already know that the setting isn't going full WHFB end times, meaning abby won't destroy emps, and for some reason abby isn't getting new rules or a new model, and absolutely no rumors AFAIK indicate wither of those happening. It doesn't make much sense for the BBEG of the entire campaign to get no rules or a new model when every other campaign in this "series" has updated everyone involved with both new rules and models. Maybe there planning on updating it later, but at this point something is fishy, and it doesn't look good for old Failbadon the armless
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>>50974413
>realistic
>wh40k
pick one

But if you want to talk realism, then with a figure like that it means they have around 30% body fat on top of muscle. So yes, still fat. Meanwhile an older sister model would have been around 10% body fat on top of muscle. Since BFP between men and women looks different, Imperial Guard look like they would have anywhere between 10%-15%. A space marine would be like 5%

>>50974457
projecting
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>>50973814
She looks nothing like you, anon.
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>>50974575
ha ha
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>>50974570
Fucking every /40k/ general

>Haha 40k isnt fully realistic so let's make it even more retarted than it is
>Lets have SOB that look like a dumb pinup
>Lets have an abbadon model with a moustache thats big enout to carry a pistol and close combat weapon lol xD:D:D:D

Take your shit taste elsewhere.
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>>50974570
>getting defensive instead of just ignoring me
Did I touch a nerve there anon? Do you need to go to your safe space to recover?
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>>50974173

Yes, but it's a piss easy sculpt to fix.

>But I'm shit at sculpting!

Yes, I know. Trust me, you can still fill some small gaps then spend an hour half-assing some okay pustules onto the tiny area you need to cover.
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> BT BTFO by Abaddon
> Cadia falls
> Chaosfags find a way to activate the Pylons, thinking it will increase the size of the Eye of Terror
> Pylons are actually an ancient mechanism built to shut down the Eye of Terror but were unfinished
> The Eye of Terror is closed, but not before pulling the entire planet of Cadia into the Warp
> Ciadia becomes a Daemon World
> Hundreds of millions of humans left behind fall to chaos
> IG gets new chaos models
> New 40K Codex: The Lost and The Damned
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So we're getting January White Dwarf... in a few days... and then we're going to get February White Dwarf in like 18 days?
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>>50974331

>wtf GW why didn't you pull a Blizzard and make them 'muh noble savages'! wtf GW you don't get grim dark

fuck off back to Overwatch, kid. That's more up your alley
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>>50974637
Not beyond possibility.
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>>50974637

Lost and the damned already have a codex you Mongolian minstrel.
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>>50974388
Trazyn will just steal Drach' nyen in a tesseract
>>50974399
More like spawnhood for that armless failure
>>50974418
>dying before the most important campaign of his life
He will be backstabed, I guarantee it.
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>>50974651
Yeah, but it's forgeworld stuff. Also there are a few bad things about it that I don't like. Otherwise it would be a great codex.
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>>50974648
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>>50974623
Propaganda pin-up sisters would be awesome.
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Hey guys! I am getting death masque and I was wondering: is the harlequins codex any good? I love a good book, art and fluff wise, but it is quite pricy, and seems to be thinner than other codex especially. .. i don't bother too much for the rules since those should be inside the box
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Finally settled on CSM as my first army, still somewhat torn between WE and DG.
Would it be a better idea to swap out Kharn for a Lord with the 3" extra movement amulet?
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>>50974648

this tbqh

don't get the obsession with retards hating "edge'
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>>50974702
As in transfers that you can put on terrain or a flyer?-great.

As in a meme army? No thanks, go play infinity or something.
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>>50974329
>that points value
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>>50974623
If I'm going to field an army of dudes, I want them to be badass motherfuckers, not little bitch boys

If I'm going to field an army of women, I want them to be sexy badass bitches, not overweight cellulite crusaders.

Aesthetics matter

>>50974624
>dismissing what others say and laughing it off because you can't come up with an actual response
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>>50974711
No, they're designed to be deployed as allies for eldar and deldars, not fo r a stand alone army.
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>>50974781
Imperial moral support squad / dance group of Flaming Sisters have been surrounded by enemy forces. You must escort them to the extraction zone to keep troop morale high.
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Where can I download the Burning of Prospero painting guide?
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I am rebuilding & repainting my space wolves, Anyone have any ideas for a color scheme that isn't the wimpy baby blue, and viking looking?
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>>50974711
They are a really tough army to play. They are frail glass cannons that will get tabled if you make a single mistake. You've got to be excellent at the game before you go full murderclown.

Don't buy the rulebooks, just pirate them from the mega at the top.
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>>50974804
Is deathwatch the same for imperial armies?
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>>50974795
>how dare you to have another perspective on women beauty besides mine, if they don't fit my unrealistic expectations then you're wrong!
This is (you)
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>>50973583
Become Alpharius
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>>50974842
Deathwatch can work as a standalone army (easier than Harlequins anyways). They have a lot of alpha-strike firepower.

They are pretty low on model count, though, so it's not a bad idea to take allies or have Deathwatch be the allies.
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>>50974861

He's right though, we don't want fatties in our games.
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>>50974842
Technically yes, but the do well alone, think of them as grey knights that hunt xenos instead of daemons.
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>>50974891
>is a 300lb 40k grognard
>"WE DON'T WANT FATTIESH IN OUR GAMESH!"
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>>50974861
>physically fit with low bfp is unrealistic
I guess exercise and dieting are non-existent to you.
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>>50974781
No, as a style for sob armies. Much as space Marines are the hilariously over the top masculine ideal, let sisters be the hilariously over the top feminine ideal.
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>>50974930
You can't do that because all the cucks on this board don't want to objectify women :^(
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>>50974891
I do
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So in space hulk, a Genestealer can head in any direction except directly backwards for 1 point, right? Just trying to be sure.
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>>50973986
Can you swap the melta on the dread for other regular dread arms?
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>>50974923
>low bfp
>healthy
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>>50974914

Your opponents are not models you pay $80 for. Nice try though.
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Who else is excited at Rowboat coming back? He's still weak after being poisoned so will be put in a life support system / Dreadnought / Super Dreadnought
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>>50974987
>Implying players aren't part of the game
Anon please
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>>50974637
>GW releases another brand new faction before fixing any existing ones
I 100% believe that it'll happen
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>>50974301
>Mfw I run nothing but Calvary and wulfen with the great wold detachment
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>>50974930
>let sisters be the hilariously over the top feminine ideal.

This.

In the end it's up to the artist. But if you don't like the design of the new sisters, vote with your wallet.

To me, they look OK. I'm hoping it's bad camera angles that make them look a bit fat. I'll have to see them in person to make a final judgement.
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>>50974997
Nah, he'll be cured with the STC Lady Malys have in her possession.
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>>50975014

How much did you pay for your opponent's appearance?
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>>50974987

Good thing no one is forcing you to buy models then I guess.
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>>50975057

Not good for GW.
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>>50975051
Like 2 hours of my life, the fucker always arrive late and always tries to read my list before he make his.
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>>50974331
This is fucking 40k, it's supposed to be edgy as shit, where do you think you are
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>>50974982
yeah unless you're barely eating and forcing your body to stay unnaturally thin.
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>>50974997
You can say that all you want, it won't change that it's not happening because a dreadnought is for keeping someone who's body has been utterly destroyed alive, not stopping posion. Seriously, girlyman in a dreadnought makes no fucking sense. If any primarch is going to be in a dread, it'll be ferrus and you will always be a massive faggot with shit taste.
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Thinking of buying the Vedros Ork Wartrukk, removing the front spikes and the spikes on the tires, cleaning it up in general, removing the Orks and their gun, sitting a single Space Marine in the seat, and using it as a "Plays As" Space Marine bike.

Mainly because I don't like the way the Space Marine bikes look but I would like to add their functionality to my army.

Would this work or would it look retarded?
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>>50975120

Of course it would look retarded, dumb ass
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>>50975120
>Mainly because I don't like the way the Space Marine bikes look but I would like to add their functionality to my army.
But a fucking ork wartrukk looks better to you? In what fucking world?
>Would this work or would it look retarded?
It would look retarded.
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>>50975072

Considering the only people I have heard whining about the Sisters models has been one guy in /40kg/ I think GW will be fine.

The majority of players I've talked to think that the new Celestine kit looks cool as fuck. The only concerns I've heard are that it looks fragile since the entire bodies are held up by one tiny piece of plastic.

Also, this is Warhammer 40K General, not Body Image General, can we go back to talking about space aliens and guns and chaos and shit already?
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>>50975132
>>50975143

To be fair, motorcycles are for fags.
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>>50975156

>Also, this is Warhammer 40K General, not Body Image General, can we go back to talking about space aliens and guns and chaos and shit already?

Fuck, I've been on the work g board this whole time.
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>>50975156
SoB power armor has always looked the best out of any army in 40k. However it loses a lot of its appeal when it's bursting at the seams.
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>>50974795
You rang?
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>>50975099
>implying the anons who are complaining about fat sisters doesn't want them to be that unnaturally thin
Look into your heart anon, you know it to be true
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>>50975103

It is happening and you'll just continue to be the little bitch you've always been while Roboute-knight-nought is stomping around
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>>50975075
Ew. Do you just say no? Why are you not honest with him, and just say "don't be a cheese dick faggot, as that is what list tailoring makes you"
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>>50975196
If I wanted an army of skeletons, I'd play necrons.
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Suicide havocs with 4 plasmas, inside a rhino:
Yay or nay?
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>>50975191
These models are cringey as fuck, made for virgin losers
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So since the new Archmagos seems like he'll be decent, who's going to get him? I know I will, if one of my friends will buy the Sisters off me since I have no use for them.

Was also thinking about converting him with a few subtle Chaos and Necron bitz, and obviously a different top half, into Anacharis Scoria for 30k Mechanicum. Might buy and build a regular one first, though, since he looks good.
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>>50975257
Depends on the rest of your army.

Generally not a horrible idea if you already have long range support that the Havocs normally deliver.
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>>50975191
He said sexy badass bitches not virgin bait cheese cake
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>>50975208
It's the waacfag of the group and I pity him, he was already banned a whole month because besides being a waacfag he's a sore loser and the last time we played he rage quited when my space wolves arrived in drop pods and killed most OS his msu of scattbikes and I didn't let him shoot my units trough the drop pods.
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>>50975278
I play alpha legion so fire support is not really a big thing anyway. If I need to protect the objectives I can just respawn cultists near them
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>>50975238
Then don't complain about sisters being fat since they are wearing power armour, not caparace or eldar form fitting armour.
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>>50975316

But the original SoB models aren't fat.

In fact the new Inquisitor model isn't fat either... so what went wrong?
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>>50975205
>It is happening
In your dreams faggot.
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>>50975302
Well with AL you already have infiltrating Chosen and CSM to bring Plasma Guns into your enemy's butthole. So Havocs with autocannons are good back-line objective holders.
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>>50975294

Stop playing games with him.

Stop playing games with him.

People like that will never change if they keep getting games. By making excuses for him and continuing to play him you are enabling his behavior and are as much at fault as he is. Anyone who can't keep their shit together to the point where they get kicked out of a gamestore is pathetic, and not worth your time spent playing.

Stop playing games with him.
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>>50975316
Space marines aren't fat.
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>>50975381
Mass produced power armour, only the highest ranks can pay for those form fitting pimping power armours.
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>>50975316
Then why have armor designed to be form fitting, if it's not form fitting
Thinking emote
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>>50975552
But they're unnatural bulky due the gene therapy they undertake.
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>>50975552
I remember when people complained that marines had unrealistic proportions.
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>>50975294
>and I didn't let him shoot my units trough the drop pods.

huh?
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>>50975556
The bloody church pays for them.

SoB are basically masturbataroy Celebration of the male form.

Any human with power armour has enhanced attributes sculpted into the armour itself.

Inquisitor Torquemada? Male nipples and triangle shape. Look at any inquisitor in power armour over the top male forms or over the top female forms.
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>>50975556
Why do you keep saying this? 40k doesn't exist, you don't have to have this rule. Just model shit to look GOOD.
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>>50975598

That had to do to their height not because they were fat asses
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>>50975581
Because mechanicus
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>>50975191
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>>50975650
This annoys me more than the PoS miniatures.

Unless it is a Pin up photo shoot session as a SoB, then it is ok.
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>>50975650
Please tell me this isn't what you guys want. This is so overly sexualized and ridiculously thin.

The new SoB models look fine. They aren't fat.
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>>50975650
How the fuck can she carry that heavy flamer with those twig arms
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>>50975650
I mean put the rest of the armor back on and it's good.
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>>50975623
It was just as nitpicky.

Sisters with bulky armor get shit for being fat even though thats bot really how armor works and Sisters with sleek armor get shit for being eyecandy marines when that's also not really how armor works.

The new SoB look average, not fat not thin, probably because GW doesnt want another decade of people complaining about how sexuality is a bad.
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>>50975601
He insisted that he could shoot my units behind my drop pod because they're open topped, despite he couldn't see them because TLoS
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>>50975680
It's fan art.
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>>50973421

Can someone explain why Verminlords and some Skaven aren't in 40k when they are clearly chaos daemons?
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>>50974950
>Not wanting to objectify models that are literally objects

???
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>>50975732
Because Earth was conquered and made clean by the Emperor millennia ago?
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>>50975732
because space skaven faggots get bullied and stay bullied
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>>50975613
>>50975619
Mechanicus members are dicks then
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>>50975732

Remember what happened the last time GW tried to shoehorn a Fantasy army into 40k?
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>>50974301

>Wulfen
>Loyalist Marines

Whatever helps you sleep at night Space Yiff
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>>50975732

They may have been seen already, but were assumed to be lesser Warp Entities given they wouldn't hold a candle to the main Ruinous Powers.
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>>50975799
now they're just shoehorning 40k armies into fantasy
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>>50975732
Because gw didnt want 40k to be too fantasy.

This is what a sob should look like.
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>>50975732
>why aren't tyranids in fantasy

seriously tho Hrud were supposed to be spess Skaven but for whatever reason they became dirty space hobos, which is not a bad thing
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>>50975799

It came out pretty well?

Also I mean, Orks. High Eldar. Dark Eldar...
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What is the worst kit in the game to assemble?

My vote goes to Leman Russ

>So many sprue lines in shitty places
>So many visible corner joins to fix
>Takes forever
>Cleaning tracks
>Cleaning tracks
>Cleaning tracks
>Cleaning tracks
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>>50975854

>Cleaning mould lines instead of just painting over them

You only have yourself to blame here.
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>>50975854
Ghost arks and monoliths for me.
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>>50975854
Tracks aren't that bad. Cover em up with texture paint and call it weathering if it bothers you that much.
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>>50975732

I did think up a good way to bring them into 40K if GW ever felt inclined. Have them infesting the Webway.

This brings across the "under-empire" aspect of the Skaven, that they have vast holdings and tunnels underneath the entire world. Obviously whilst that might work on a single planet it falls apart on a galactic level. Enter the Webway. This allows the Skaven to show up just about anywhere, on any world, whilst their settlements are all isolated.

We know that huge sections of the Webway are considered lost by the Eldar, and infested with Daemons or simply unsafe to travel through. Skaven could fit perfectly into this. Plus, it sets up a conflict with both Daemons and Harlequins/Eldar.

Finally, by gnawing their way into the Black Library, this gives an avenue to the Skaven's bizzare weaponry and technology. Essentially they're stealing scraps of ancient knowledge and using them to cobble together powerful tech, but because they're only stealing scraps that they half-understand, its dangerous and unreliable.
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>>50975875
gr8 b8 m8.
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>>50975831

To be fair they're cool as shit.

If anything it gives us 40K players way more options for customizing and kitbashing since they're literally SigMarines.
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>>50975848
Fuck
>>50974280
This
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>>50975904

Is it really? I mean, I do all sorts of crazy conversions and never really see much need to keep track of mould lines. You have to be looking for them to notice them 90% of the time after a layer of primer.
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>>50975900
How is it that random shitposters come up with better ideas than geedubs hueg staff?
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>>50974795
>not wanting thicc sisters

Some zaftig hottie probably turned him down.
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>>50975900

Might as well have them infest Tzeentch's library and maze while you're at it.
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>>50975928
they're fine if you look at miniatures from arms length, but then again if you just do that, then whats the point in going above basecoats and layers. If you actually take pictures and show off models, you're going to notice mold lines everywhere, and so are others.
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Had a fun Kill Team match tonight.
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>>50975935
>being low self esteem enough to be attracted to fat women.
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>>50975907

>To be fair they're cool as shit.

Everyone but the Paladins look like ass, all have the same faces, and poseability of the range is overall ass.

Oh, and they're expensive even by GW standards. Liberators cost more than double what Tacticals do per model for the same generic troops role.
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>>50975952
Possessed ploughed into five Guardsman and gutted two straight away. Then died to bayonets. Pointy flashlights are deadly.
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>>50975820
>even in savage state they actively fight chaos and the enemies of mankind
>flesh tearers purposely attack loyal forces and other astartes
>dark angels, that's all I need to say
They aren't the worst loyalists though.
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>>50975950

Mate I'd need to grow a second anus to be anal enough to look over pictures of people's models for mould lines.
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>>50975956
Fuck off normie
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>>50975975
Cultists came out of cover to charge down the flank, two went down to snapshots but they mopped up the Guardsmen and consolidated into the tree line. Next turn, they were taken out by charging Catachan Veterans with a Frag Grenade taking out one of them.

Not pictured, the Cultist Champion in the Background died in the same turn to a diving charge from a Stormtrooper.
More pics next time.
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>>50975974
They're also twice the size than of a tactical marine
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Good fair dice that arent chessex (they suck ass)?
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>>50975998
Just lazy desu.
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>>50976041
GW
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>>50975974

> Everyone but the Paladins look like ass

Subjective

> all have the same faces

They're helmets, dummy. 99% of 40k models that aren't IG have the "same face"

> and poseability of the range is overall ass.

I'll give you this one though.

Lastly,

> Complaining about GW prices

Yeah no shit GW stuff is expensive welcome to 1988

>>50975998

Most people at my LGS don't even paint their models. At the most they just prime them black and give up :(
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>>50975854
I love building russes. I never have trouble! And the tracks? They get covered on the sides by the armour plates either side! I barely have to cut it after it's off the sprue
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>>50976041
How can dice be bad it's literally just a cube with dots.
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>>50975952
>>50975975
>>50976016
Looks like it was a fun game, nice models and a cool board but why did you put that fucking filter on every picture?
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>>50975952
>>50975975
>>50976016
Looking good, but I don't play Kill Team, what's a diving charge?

>>50976041
I like Army Painters dice.
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>>50976027

It's cute that you think that's how things are normally priced, rather than 10 for a box of troops, 5 for a box of specialists.
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>>50976071
>tfw gw doesn't make a fw style russ
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>>50976000

No.
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>>50975956
>can't tell the difference between zaftig and fat

Confirmed for not having slept with enough women to know better
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>>50975941

It's not a bad idea. I could see Tzeentchian daemons getting increasingly frustrated with finding Skaven-holes popping up in their library. Libraries tend to have rat problems so it fits.
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>>50976086
Super fun. Using the Osgiliath Ruins gave it a nice bit of flavour. As for the filter, don't blame me. My friend thinks it's cool and he was taking the pictures.

>>50976087
This was specifically HoR Kill Team.
If your charge incorporates a jump, you can turn it into a diving charge for +1S.
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>>50976075
Shit dice are one of the many reasons i keep losing games and ive been using these same dice for years so its finally time to ditch them
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>>50976127
still fat
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>>50976180
>It's muh dice
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>>50976070
>They're helmets, dummy. 99% of 40k models that aren't IG have the "same face"

Tac marine unit literally has more variation in their helmets than the entire sigmarine line. I'm looking at my tac marines and not a single one has a duplicate helmet.
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>>50976180
>he literally blames his dice for losing games
Anon...
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>>50976190

This. Again with the exception of the actually fairly sweet paladin models, the entire line have such a uniform look that they look like a soulless horde.
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>>50976190
Stormcast don't have identical helmets either. They've each got a unique halo.
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>>50976127
Fatty detected.
>>
Had a chance to kick off the New Year in 40k style today - played in a 3 round tournament (and long standing tradition at this point) at my FLGS, hopefully this will signal much 40k in the future.
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>>50976149
Damn, I want to dive charge someone
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>>50976194
>>50976188
>'ONE OF THE MANY REASONS'
Can you fuckboys not goddamn read?
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>>50976274
>An impartial chunk of plastic is one of the reasons I lose
Pretty sure the losing is all on you and the dice just need to represent that.
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>>50976274
>dice are a reason at all
You just don't get it, do you?
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>>50976216

Isn't that the point of Stormcast Eternals though?

They're warriors from all races who were killed in battle and are reforged as living metal beings with no individuality? Just pure soldiers?

Complaining that all of them have the "same face" is like complaining that all of the 2017 Honda Accords have the same front bumper.
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>>50976274
>my dice contributed to my loss

Ok, then, how? If they are poorly made, shouldnt roughly an equal number be more weighted to 6s as 1s?
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>>50976236
It's already been proven they're not fat.
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>>50976362
Oh my. Big.
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>playing a game with my chaos friend
>He's rolling an awful lot of 3+ saves
>Check the dice.
>Some of them have no 2, and instead have 1,3,3,4,5,6

And that's why I'll never buy china dice again.
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>>50973986

Where'd you get this I can't find this kit on the web store.
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>>50976362
>that chest
She's a big girl!
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>>50976325

Except we've seen them without helmets in models.

So at this point they are 'People in armour'. More people in Valhalla than golems. So some more difference in model like say, female face, would be nice.
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>>50973421
One thing which really pisses me off is how people think that the tau sterilize humans. They don't. Do not trust DOW fluff. It is now canon
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>>50976330
They roll more poorly that well and ive been using these for years
You fucking tell me
>>50976308
>>50976303
I
FUCKING
KNOW
THAT
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>>50976395
The best dice for Imperial Fist players.
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>>50976395
What did he say about it?
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>>50976395
We had a few people at our club using phone dice apps which we had no problem with and seemed like a cool time saver, until we found out two guys were using rigged ones. So most of us now wont play anyone using dice apps.
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>>50976362
WTF have you done to the emprahs holy sisters you bastard.
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>>50976422
>They roll more poorly that well
C O N F I R M A T I O N B I A S
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>>50976414
>So some more difference in model like say, female face, would be nice.

They sculpted like men.
Also the face is supposed to be a representation of Sigmar's own.

Their helmets are actually quite varied if you actually look at them.
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>>50976325
they're basically just fucking space marines in fantasy, with more magical shit.
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>>50976425
he had no idea either. It was my dice. Bought em in a pack of 400. Start the game, use a color for hullpoints and wounds, others for objectives, and the rest for rollan.

He offered to re-do some rounds of combat, i said nah.
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>>50976362
if this is the case then that's fine
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>>50976422
Do they roll poorly when your opponent uses them too?
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>>50976445

I want that fucking model so bad but its bullshit that it costs $50.
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>>50976325

Your argument is slightly wonky.

If the concept leads to something I consider a flaw, clearly the concept itself is flawed.

Give them just the minimal variation a tactical squad has, and they'd gain personality. As an elite rather than horde army, something they really should have.

That said, a big part of their problem is party of Paladins syndrome: If you have one paladin in a story, he can serve an interesting role. If you have an entire team of Paladins, or in this case an entire army of Paladins, you have everyone sharing the same fairly narrow pigeonhole archetype.

Sigmarines would honestly work a lot better as a super-elite unit in a human army than shoehorning an entire army in.
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>>50976362

nice
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>>50976419
Oh no tau might have a slightly bad point. but i thought they were the good guy faction?!?
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>>50976443

Sigmar is a black man? >>50976445
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>>50976362
that image is even underestimating the thickness of the armor plating

She'd be less barrel chested, and less muscular in the legs/shoulders.
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>>50976496
Dude doesn't have a helm anon
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>>50976456
Yes they do hence my desire to replace them after even they said they were garbage
So >>50976440 can eat a fucking dick
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>>50976496
He's not wearing his helmet.
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>>50976466

I think they could have worked in an 'Army of the Divine' if you wanted to go more focused than just hmans.

Sorta like Basilica in Kings of War. It's all holy warriors but they are not all just 'Heavy plate paladin'.
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>>50976443

>Sigmar's own.

No beard.
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>>50976430
The few ruin it for the many. Did it really save that much time though? The reason I ordered so many dice is so everyone I played with would have dice to use.
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>>50975722

Did you keep the pod doors shut?
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>>50976507
Yeah I know. I didn't make the image was another anon that was getting annoyed by this shit. I just saved it for times like this.
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>>50976409
for u
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>>50976525

They have fucking full plate longbowmen.
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>>50976537
It does save heaps of time with swarmy armies. Way easier than rolling 50+ dice of whatever.
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>>50976362
Still too barrel chested.
Space marine armour isn't that thick.
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>>50976536
Sigmar does not always wear a beard.
The beard is a mark of god king Sigmar who has given up on fighting from the front.
The Stormcast have the face of Sigmar the barbarian who walked the realms and wrecked shit.
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>>50976419
I kinda want to get this mentality out that having multiple canon sources of fluff is "OP". It's not. They're a writer's TEQ. It's fair if they can have one if you bring some butthurt or a vidya fluff piece. If they bring multiple and in the Wing, then yes that is pretty cheesy.

Also fanfiction is shit. It's just expendable meatshields. Having a whole story oriented around it would be incredibly boring. If 1d4chan writefaggotry had the same love that Genestealers then that would be fine.

A "fun" narrative to read about is something that tries to bring all the neat points of the setting into the story in a combined arms fashion. Not just spamming any one single trope. A good writer would know that some well supported purple prose is a cheaper and arguably better source of anti interest fire power than the other techniques.

I'm so tired of hearing nerds complain about "muh canon or muh continuity" DoW fluff is there in the canon, it has a purpose, just like the FWs.source then any of the codex fluff. Just because you get butthurt at the Goto novels doesn't mean that the other writers have to stop using a particular fluff source. Quit bitching.
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>>50976185
Still hot.
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>>50976407

You can't order it from the GW website, you have to get it from a hobby/toy retailer 9Like the Battle for Vedros kits) or order it from someone else online. The line you're looking for is "Build+Paint".

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/build_paint?_requestid=15529417

This has a list of them.

>>50976414

>more difference in model like say, female face, would be nice.

> The "Female Space Marine" argument has transcended space and time and is now being made in Age of Sigmar

wew laddddd
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>>50976579

>Clean shaven hammer barbarian

You know honestly one of the worst things about AoS is that I -liked- Sigmar as he existed in the old setting. Now I can't talk about him without the shadow of the shitshow hanging over things.

AoS has ruined Sigmar.
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>>50976585

wew nice old pasta
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>>50976575
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Power_Armour
>Power Armour is worn primarily by the Space Marines, Sisters of Battle, Adeptus Custodes and the Chaos Space Marines. It is a completely enclosed suit of armour, made of thick ceramite plates.
>thick ceramite plates
>not that thick
Really makes you think
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>>50976075
Almost all cheap dice will tend towards having more sixes because they are plastic toys that havent been weighed. Rounding the corners saves manufacturers on materials and hurts less when you step on it, but makes the dice even less random.

Go look at a casino dice and compare to any of thd dice we use for 40k, the casino loses money on a non-random dice so they go to all lengths to keep them hogh quality, that also makes them more expensive so not really ideal for a game that throws 40+ dice at a time.
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>>50976619
really makes you thick
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>>50976466
Since when have GW not just made entire army books about the super elite armies even when they never marched to war by themselves? GK, Inquisition, Deathwatch, etc. Since 40k 3rd edition, that's when. Imperial Agents was a great concept that they just fucked up the execution of really badly.

>>50976600
>The "Female Space Marine" argument has transcended space and time and is now being made in Age of Sigmar
The difference is that female Sigmarines is actually possible and reasonable, unlike female Space Marines which are literally impossible without Chaotic corruption/mutation in the extreme.
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>>50976619

Thicc ceramite plates.

Honestly though, calling these models fat is utterly baffling in the first place.

No, they are not a supermodel build in skintight latex. That's about it.
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>>50976608
thx lad :)))
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>>50976619
But look at the actual model design.
GW always puts making sense behind aesthetics.
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>>50976659
Shhhh. The 12 year olds want thier fap matetial models and they'll shit up every general from now until the literal year 40,000 if we keep acknowledging them.
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>>50976659
You don't see anyone claiming they are fat anywhere else then on /tg/ aswell. It's just a vocal minority shitposting.
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>>50976600

>> The "Female Space Marine" argument has transcended space and time and is now being made in Age of Sigmar

Except unlike space marines, Stormcast have no real reason to be all male. They are literally just 'Badass warriors who died fighting chaos'.
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>>50976625

Former GW Blackshirt here - I can tell you I despise Casino Dice more than anything else on the planet earth. Back when we built all our terrain and used insulation foam for our tables I cringed any time I saw casino dice.
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>>50973828
Plague Hulk, faggot.
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>>50976651

Well I mean, the only in universe justification for monogender marines is a couple arbitrary lines about the genemods only working if you have a weiner.

Focusing on in-universe reasons there can't be female space marines is fucking retarded, the argument should entirely focus on why it's dumb/not dumb to change things for out of universe reasons.
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>>50976681
>it's immature to be attracted to women.
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>>50976696
>I can tell you I despise Casino Dice more than anything else on the planet earth
not him, but why? whats wrong with them?
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>>50976675
What about the model design anon? Even if you dont count in the thickness of the armour the sister inside is pretty /fit/
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>>50976604
Sigmar is classically clean shaven though.
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>>50974743
Because at some point, the story becomes so black you can't tell the words from the paper they're written on.

You can't have people care about a setting where nothing matters because everyone is so fucking evil. You ever wonder why Xfags defend X faction? Because they really believe those guys - THEIR guys - are the heroes. So they care about them. Maybe they wrong, but the fact the faction had enough highlights to fool them into thinking it has depth means it doesn't matter if they're wrong.

Imagine a setting as a big wall. The dark, depressing, edgy parts are the recesses. The happy, heroic, and huggy parts are the tiny outcroppings.

If you want people to climb that wall, you need a balance of both for them to fit their hands and feet into.
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>>50976711

Obviously this isn't a problem anymore but when terrain and boards were made of insulation foam casino dice just destroy them, they poke holes in it, gouge it, tear up basing, etc.
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>>50974143
>Denying clearly wonderful, white as fuck genes
>denying it because you're intimidated by a woman
>Being this much of a faggot

Gas yourself, kike shill.
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>>50976696
>Beautful handcrafted terrain completed after hours of loving work
>Damaged by a cashed up 11yo rolling to hit for his not-eveb-undercoated fire warriors

At least he would have been marginally less likely to make his saves...
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>>50976713
She's not attractive, she's either too fat or too muscular.
I mean she's wearing a corset.
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>>50976705
>Its mature to be attracted to women
>Its immature to be attracted to 28mm plastic space fantasy battle nuns

I fixed it for you, but you already knew it in your heart anyway.
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>>50976753
That's just your opinion anon.
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>>50976732
>cleaning up and fixing the store terrain what seemed like every fucking night
bad memories

The only stuff that managed to survive without issue were the old vac-formed terrain pieces.
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>>50976696
What was being a blackshirt like? Sometimes I think it would be great but then I realise it would probably mostly suck.
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>>50976735
i guess finding a female gorilla unattractive is me being """""""""""""""intimidated"""""""""""""""
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>>50976757
They are representations of women, i don't play with shitty looking male models.
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>>50976704
The Emperor designed the project to work on males. He gave no shits about equal gender opportunity and so it is that gene-seed only works for men.

Then, the canon goes on to say that only Emps himself is really capable of modifying gene-seed. If it was even possible, to do so would be heretical, and on the Chaos side it's really only Bill who ever tried, and even he LITERALLY ADMITS in a book that female Marines would be impossible to create without warping them with Chaos.
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>>50976705
It's immature to put sexuality above everything, yeah.
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>>50974930
>Make sisters a fetish meme
>Not glorious examples of what pure imperial genes can create in terms of female heros, just as the scions are examples of the masculine heros.

I found the virgin, guys!
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>>50976816
Here's the thing.
40k isn't real, the canon was created for a reason.
Space marines are inspired by all sorts of masculine figures, they're meant to be epic heroes and represent male ideals.
Women don't have to be "included" in everything.

>>50976840
When designing the way a female should LOOK, yea aesthetics matter.
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>>50976778

When I was a Blackshirt I made that a rotating job so no one single redshirt got boned having to do it.

>>509767806

I really enjoyed it, I spent about 8 years with GW and really enjoyed my retail experience, however the back half of my time there was during the really awful 08-13 evil time period so that was less fun.(though I believe they are turning a corner for the better currently).
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>>50976845
>Sisters
>not already a fetish meme
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>>50976845
Exactly. The female heroes should be heroic figures the imperium rallies behind, just like their male counterparts.

SoB should be Joan of Arc, not Bayonetta.
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>>50976877

Second response was meant for >>50976780
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>>50976815
>Backpedaling

Thats why we've had to sit through all of this nonsense? Because after post after post of "hehe lol r u a fag lets have bigger tits and smaller waists:D:D" you actaully have an opinion about aesthetics?

Or is it just that i hit a nerve? I'm guessing you dont have many non 28mm women in your life.
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>>50975732
They did bring them into 40k, they just made them martian humans instead of rats.
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>>50976917
Yes mate, big tits and smaller waists is a matter of aesthetics actually.
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>>50976950
You are saying that the utmost priority in designing female models should be those things?

That is the immaturity we are talking about.
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>>50976972
I'm saying that for a women, looking good is tied to the shape of their body yes.
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>>50975917
>What is armour
>what is a robe
>what is a corset

They're literally wearing a robe, with armour over the top, and a corset over that.

Furthermore, they're fit as fuck. Go spend some time looking at extremely athletic women and read a little about how difficult it is to ever get to the point that will let you fire a bolt weapon.

What you're asking for is a bunch of girlboi stickthin tranny twigs that couldn't lift their weapons. Because you're a virgin with shit taste in women and no understanding of the human body.

Pick related. A woman that can lift a fucking bolter without getting tired.
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>super huge super human parody a of male physique is totally fine
>female with exaggerated proportions is UNACCEPTABLE
>t. This thread
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>>50976892
Exactly, we already fucking have bayonetta in the form of imperial assassins and death cultists.
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>>50976445
This is the reason i buy 2nd hand miniatures.
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>>50977054
>Genetically altered demi-god
>Average Nun sponsored by money
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>>50977042
Most people don't like the way strong women look, because guess what. That isn't the feminine ideal.
If we were going for realistic, than even the top percentage of women would be unfit for any kind of elite force anyway.
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>>50977109

Secondhand models aren't worth the cost of Simple Green and the time you have to spend scrubbing someone else's shitty paintjob off of them.
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If we could put the autism on hold for a while?

Ive got two of these tank commander guys in my pic. I have heads arms and weapons but no legs for them and I would like to make them plat commanders. Whats the best way to give them shins and feet? I have moderate modelling skills but I doubt I could make legs out of putty. Any clever ideas?
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>>50977146
forgot pic
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>>50977146
Put them on Guardsman legs, for a start. You'll have to make some cuts to get the legs to fit with the body. I would cut the body just below the belt.
>I don't have any spares
Bits sites.
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>>50977146
Cut some legs off another model?
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>>50977168
Probably wouldn't be too hard to cut the knees off a standard guardsman
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>>50977146
>Whats the best way to give them shins and feet?
the plain legs from the tank kits?

no conversion necessary
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>>50977146
Find them tiny wheelchairs and call them veterans.
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>>50977138
How fortunate that sisters are recruited from the genestock of the kind of people who become military heros and martyrs of the imperium, a place full of worlds with hypergravity.

Using a boltgun is required from sisters.

Using a boltgun is a one way ticket to traumatic injury for most humans.

Sisters are not most humans, dipshit.

It takes two guardsmen to use a Heavy Bolter. A single sister can perform that task.
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>>50974319
Use Typhus standing on the glottkin
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>>50976816

>Me: It's autistic to try to use in universe arguments
>You: Here is proof of my autism
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>>50977244
>Using a boltgun is a one way ticket to traumatic injury for most humans.
no it isn't

fuck that FFG made up shit, regular, not-power-assisted humans have been using bolters for longer than you've known about this setting
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>>50976806
>Zarya
>gorilla
That anon is right, gas yourself
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>>50977244
and yet sergeants of imperial guard squads can use bolters just fine
this meme that bolters are like desert eagles needs to die, because they're rocket propelled, which makes recoil very low.
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>>50977244
>Sisters are not most humans, dipshit.

Whilst they probably do come from good genes and definitely are well trained, the main reason that Sisters can carry heavy weapons around is because of their power armour, which comes from all the money that the Ecclesiarchy gives them.

I'd even guess that that's how they can survive bolter recoil, though they do have a special pattern so it might just be that.
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>>50977283
>caring about the integrity of a setting is autism
Okay.
I know a faggot who's trying to make female loyalist World Eaters for use in 40k. You are worse than him because he at least tried to come up with an explanation for the shit he's trying to pull, however cringeworthy.
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>>50976892
>SoB should be Joan of Arc, not Bayonetta.
You, I like you anon no homo though
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>>50977146
>If we could put the autism on hold for a while?

NO DEAL
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>>50977383

Aww, thanks.
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>>50977454
his loss, I'll go homo with you
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>>50977283
>You: Why don't female Marines exist?
>Me: Here is why female Marines do not exist.
>(You): Your reasons do not count!

What else do you want me to say? That GW, for several reasons not least of all its autistic fanbase knows a female Marine line would incite massive rage and probably not sell well? That female Marines would look and sound nearly exactly the same as male Marines due to their implants and fucking bulky armor, and are thus redundant as models?

If we're just going to disregard fluff, why don't I start mounting all my Chaos Marines in Wave Serpents? My Necrons in Trukks? After all, the fluff would say that's fucking retarded but who cares about fluff, right?
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>>50976892
>Joan of Arc
>Disguised herself as a male to fight because a woman wouldn't be allowed on he battlefield
So what you're saying is women aren't allowed to look like women if they're going to be anything more than sex appeal?
Why? Because you believe women are nothing more than sex objects?

>B-But all the MANCHILDEN will masturbate to it, t-they're so just horny they can't stop themselves!
Sounds like you're projecting there, champ.
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>>50973421
Move along
>>50972740
This thread is already saging
>>50972740
This faggots forgot to link the thread
>>50972740
>>
I'm new to 40k, sorry if this question is dumb.

When I read that certain Space Marine units can take vehicles as "dedicated transports" does this mean that the vehicle ends up being "free" in terms of points? Or is the only bonus that you can start with them inside the vehicle on the first turn?

Also if you have a 10 man tactical squad can you still choose a Razorback as your dedicated transport? If so how do you handle the other five marines that don't fit?

Thanks.
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>>50977677
>Disguised herself as a male to fight because a woman wouldn't be allowed on he battlefield
Wasn't that Mulan?
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>>50977688
I had indeed "forgotten" to link the thread...back in the previous thread. >>50972740 existed before the one you're bitching in now.
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>>50977677
What? I meant that they shouldn't be sex objects, that they should justd be cool.soldiers that aren't just an excuse to have breasts in the game. I don't want them to be über sexualized
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>>50977701
You still have to pay the points for it. The advantage is that it doesn't take up any space in a detachment and has the same role as the unit it was brought for.

You can buy transports for units that can't fit inside them, they just can't embark on them.
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>>50977701
Starts inside and doesn't take up a force organization slot
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So after grabbing Imperial Agents, all this inquisitor shit looks baller as fuck. Problem is GW seems to be out of 99% of it and nobody on Ebay is selling any of them either. Alternatives? I figure I can convert some Acolytes but what about things like Crusaders?
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>>50976600
Thanks for the info on the Build+Paint series I didn't know about that.

Also nice digits.
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>>50973986
>>50976600
>>50978064

Also I forgot to ask how hard do you think it would be to convert Build+Paint Terminators into Deathwatch Terminators.
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>>50976362
I want her to make me submit to the Holy Orders of the Emperor's Inquisition if you know what I mean
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>>50977139
But they are. Most of 2nd hand ive bought have been unpainted or with basecoat (which actually saves me some money). Hell, some of the shit i bought were in sprues.

Im not murican, but simple green costs 3 dollars and a shit-tier tooth brush probably less. Never had trouble removing paint with the local pine extract soap solution and brushing.

Aside from buying second hand, converting saves you a whole lot of diddly. For example i got two daemon princes out of the monopose rat ogres they give you in IoB box and armed my vets with plasma by glueing left-over PPs on cut lasguns. You can also make meltas pretty easy with putty.

I just calculated I saved ~500 USD on my IG army buying most of it used and NOT counting converted characters or assassins. Prices were taken from wayland games that gives out -20% from all minis to begin with. You just have to be on the look out for the best deals.

So i'd say it was fucking worth it.
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>>50977244
Sisters can carry heavy bolter due to the power armor that enables them to do that shit. Besides GSGT Harker carries a heavy bolter AND can fire it on the move while wearing nothing but a wife-beater and cargo pants.

Never mind IG and acolytes using bolters like nobodys business. Yarrick even uses a fucking storm bolter.
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>>50977851
If you take dedicated transport, you MAY start inside the vehicle and nobody else cant deploy inside that vehicle. Landraiders arent dedicated transports but you can still start with dudes in it.

The only benefit is that they dont take up extra slots.
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>>50978170
You'd just need the arm really. But if you're true poorfag(tm) then just paint the left arm silver and call it a day.
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>>50978033
I converted crusaders out of Warriors of Chaos box, instead of the cloak i gave them marine backpacks and some green stuff. Heads were replaced with catachan and some cadian ones.
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>>50978437
I won't call myself a PoorFag™ it just seemed like a good deal.
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>>50978440
Awesome idea. Ill just have to shave off the Chaos Star
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>>50978603
Also bro-tip for using crusaders:

*Run them into melee or close to enemy,
*Have Karamazov fire his unscatterable orbital strike on them, you can do this every turn.
*Adjacent enemies get scorched to dust
*Storm shields help crusaders weather the blow from the orbital strike.
*Drink tears.
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>>50973421
what's the best way to get into Warhammer if I know nothing at all?
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>>50977529
>why don't I start mounting all my Chaos Marines in Wave Serpents?

In the story I'm writing about my homebrew Chaos warband, they've actually done this to better sneak into an Eldar Craftworld that's in the middle of a massive battle with Necrons, and use it to get extremely close to the Infinity Circuit and place a mechanical Daemon Magnet right in the heart of the Craftworld that they use to pour Slaaneshi Daemons and their own troops right in the heart of the world. They corrupt the Infinity Circuit, capture a shit-ton of Eldar civilians and wounded warriors, basically hurl Eldar wraith constructs and gear they can grab into the portal to their ship, rip out every soul stone they can, then jump back through the portal as they detonate a massive Vortex Torpedoe right in the heart of the Craftworld, wrecking the shit out of it. They then jump back into the Warp, and the broken Craftworld is annihilated by the Necrons.

They are now marked for death by a different Craftworld, three Corsair bands, and two Kabals, and it's only a matter of time before they are tracked down and brought to battle against them.
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>>50978810
You cant do this with the Agents codex actually. His strike is once per game. I was thinking of taking them in a retinue with 3 Acolytes
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>>50979267
I was reading this shit https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics
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>>50979956
thanks, is there any other sources I need to use or that could be useful if I want to learn to play Warhammer?
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>>50980196
I dont know im just as new as you are
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>>50980208
lol ok thanks for the help
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