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Pathfinder General /pfg/

Why don't you join one of /pfg/'s official lewd weeb games? Make a cute or sexy character and join in on the lewds!
Rise of the Jade Regent: https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65435/rise-of-the-jade-regent
Sexy Dragons: https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65144/of-dragons-and-yet-more-dragons
Fluffy Tails in the First World: https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65439/a-fluffy-fairy-tale

>THIS IS IMPORTANT!
If you want build advice make sure to say what 3pp you can use, if any.
>THIS IS IMPORTANT!

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/JTj1yEmU

Avowed Playtest 1:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5HkyGRtGZy3SWVhdWFBWERWWjg
Avowed Playtest 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rV7kaF9JL2gw9xQalkEnlEDL9WXtbsaCqNABm_pLIgc/edit?usp=sharing
Malefex Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W3LrE8WyIxxYRr8d9dHsWioeUk_-HZaSMqVWRnzc9Fc/edit?usp=sharing
Legendary Kineticists II Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11_w1o5dSef2tzu2GDLnJKElHY3uyETzuzFHDAjI6P6k/edit?usp=sharing

Old Thread: >>50963098
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Any way to use two styles at the same time without master of many styles?
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Pfft
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>>50968836
I think this is the closest you can get?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/combat-style-master-combat
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i think you guys are turning me into a... whatever it is that loves these big titty fox sluts

this is just like the time i somehow wound up on /d/ and realized that my dick really likes futa on female
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>>50968903
Sign up for one of our lewd games and be right at home.
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>>50968824
Hey look, it;s a ERP advertising thread. Guess what happened to those?
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>>50968903
I started that way. Soon you'll come to enjoy BL too.
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>>50968926
>BL

B-butt Love?
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So the kitsune poster is actually just trying to get /pfg/ threads banned.

Cute.
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>>50968934
That's one part of it.
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I wish you horny teenagers would get into a 50 man roll20 game to jack each other off in already rather than radiating us with this cancer.
Purge when?
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>>50968937
I hope it happens.
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>>50968941
the same day you stop memeing instead of playing
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>>50968941
I don't know, but I hope it's soon. Honestly wouldn't mind if janitors started banning people who post anime images in /pfg/.
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Does anyone want to play in the First World game?
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>>50968956
the what?
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>>50968955
That's just the same thing as banning /pfg/
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>>50968964
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>>50968960
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65439/a-fluffy-fairy-tale
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>>50968979
oh
sorry anon but i am an awoo man myself
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>>50968979
please for the love of god don't tell me this is the kitsune /erp/ campaign that keeps shitting up these gotdam threads
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>>50968991
You can be a wolf daoine sidhe!
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Why does Urgathoa have the War domain?
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>>50968997
This is new.
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>>50968998
i don't even know what most of those words are
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Report everything and abandon thread
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>>50969012
It's a fairy.

>>50969016
But I like this thread.
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>>50969000
>Reaping

>Senior priests of Urgathoa sometimes practice a ritual known as the Reaping. The priest will put on a grey robe and arm himself with a vorpal scythe. The priest then heads out into the world to cause as much death and destruction as he can before he is driven back to his sanctuary. They believe that if Urgathoa is pleased by the outcome of the Reaping, she will grant a boon to the priest.

It's because she's totally down with wholesale slaughter.

>>50969016
We're 27 posts in. Just reclaim it from the weebshit.
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>>50968824

Dragons isn't lewd tho
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>>50969033
>You can have mature themes, even make a lewd character if you like. However there will be no in game sexual encounters. You can "fade to black" and make all the innuendo you want. if you want to ERP, such encounters will be regulated to after the game is done, and will not necessarily be canon.
It's the same policy as RotJR and that First World game.
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>>50969033

This is like that "Suggestive Content" meme.

I will say this however. Dragons are better than Kitsune.
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>guys why does everyone hate /pfg/?
>its not like we're really part of that gross steretype of ERPing faggots obsessed with anime and the Kitsune Race, r-right?
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>>50969058
Darn tootin!
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>>50969069
>tfw my DM threw a guy out for trying to ERP
based angry alcoholic man
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>>50969069
This shit is so cringey, I just can't see the appeal.
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>>50969085
I used to try to defend it. Say some shit about deepening the world by not pretending that sex isn't a thing.

But at this point, fuck it. It's just people going 'lol fox tits' and I can't justify it any longer.
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Don't forget /pfg/'s official evil lewd game!

https://app.roll20.net/join/1803693/cj7W9A

Read the chat logs for details!
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>>50969100
>Meltia jerks her head upwards, as if trying to throw Rina's hand off, but it's not strong enough for that, only an act of resistance. The force pushes her face right into her crotch, rubbing against her lower lips, and her breath tickling out against its surface. As she promised, she laps up whatever love juice she can and swallows it down, the look on her face now a different type of focus, wilder and entranced. She doesn't care so much for Rina's state, and will relentlessly keep going, her tongue not stopping even if she drives her into orgasm after orgasm and ignoring her screams.

O-Okay.
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>>50969069
You fags should just go write porn for slablands or something.
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is slayer a good class? it looks like it would be a fun time.
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>>50969112
Anon, this isn't the thread for talking about Pathfinder, you silly goose, it hasn't been for a long time.
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>>50969112
it's pretty much a better rogue.

Not unchained rogue, though. Unchained rogue is competitive with it.
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At this point the trolling is pretty fucking blatant. When will you faggots grow back your balls and make your own threads?

RACE WAR NOW. GAS THE FURRIES.
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>>50969119
How does Legendary Rogue (Hidden Blade) stack up against Stalker (Vigilante)?
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>>50969112
It's probably the best pure martial Paizo has ever put out. Yes it's lacking in talents, and you end up having to poach off the rogue and ranger list, but for a class that seems like it'd just be a clusterfuck of bits from the ranger and the rogue, it's surprisingly cohesive and competent.
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>>50969131
>It's probably the best pure martial Paizo has ever put out.
That's not how you spell vigilante.
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>>50969131
Eh, i'd say the cigilante class is a better martial, if only because it's purpose built for contributing effectively in both combat and non-combat scenarios
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>>50968824
Hey guys, I don't know if any of you are particularly interested in this, but I took the PDF of Paizo's Mythic sheet and added editable forms to it so that you can fill in on your own.

I also stitched it Frankenstein-style onto Neceros' character sheets, so that you can use the Mythic sheet as either a stand-alone editable PDF or as an extension to your normal digital character sheet. Should I post the others, or do we not care enough about Mythic to bother...?
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>>50969142
Vigilante*
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>>50969142
>cigilante
Is that a chain-smoking vigilante?
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What's a good concept for the fluffy tail game?
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>>50968997
Yes, it is.
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>>50969239
A noose.
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>>50969245
Be excellent to everyone.
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>>50969245
I'll be honest here, I read that as "moose" which actually sounded like a decent concept.
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>>50969245
>>50969258
Don't you want to play cute LITERAL ANIMALS?
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>>50969258
Who should we be excellent to someone who is pretty much turning /pfg/ into trash? You are blatantly advertising ERP games, which is how three other thread types were totally banned from ever existing in /tg/ ever again.

You clearly want that to happen to /pfg/ so there really is no reason to tolerate you.
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>>50969258
>>50969269
>>50969270

No.
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>>50969272
Lewd is not ERP.

All three games explicitly state that sex is off-screen.

Except >>50969100 though, that one IS ERP.
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>>50969272
They're doing it entirely to get these types of reactions. If you stop feeding them (you)s and ignore the ERPers then they'll just go away.
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>>50969280
Oh yes. >>50968824
>>50968880
>>50968940
>>50968998
>>50969075
Definitely a positive contribution to these threads.
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>>50969280
As I recall, the ERP threads were explicitly off site too.

They were relocated to /soc/.
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>>50969284
Why are we supporting /pfg/ Roll20s at all?
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>>50969304
Because people have been obsessing over it for several months and it's become a meme.
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>>50969304
Because a lot of people here want to play games
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>>50969304

because we're all friends and friends support each other.
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Why is the Molthune Roll20 the one we shit on most even when it's the only non-lewd campaign we have?
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>>50969348
When in doubt, blame 2hu.
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>>50969330
oh shit I think I missed the memo
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>>50969356
>>50969348

Its just the one guy who shits on the one people.
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The Dragon Queen's Human form is revealed and DAYUM
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Let's talk about something positive!

What are your favorite kemonomimifiable races other than kitsune?

How do we make catfolk and ratfolk have better stats?
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>>50969382
Agathion-blooded Aasimar, catfolk are fine, ratfolk should be medium, and kill yourself.
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>>50969030
That's a good point. I still feel like Murder Tons of People is thematically at odds with Party Hard Forever. Doesn't alienating communities by murdering them make it harder to party hard in the future?
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>>50969399
Nope, cause after you murder them all you just raise their souls and bodies and have a giant trans-death party/orgy.
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>>50969119
Which is better at ranged, Slayer or Unchained Rogue?
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>>50969415
Slayer, since it can do its combat stuff at ranges greater than 30 feet.
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>>50969395
Ratfolk need 30 foot speed.
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>>50969239
A hardboiled Tian-Shu town guardsman who's hellbent on bringing down a sword smuggling ring after they kill his partner
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>>50969415
The answer is Augmented Blade soulknife.

Or Psychic Armory if you want to go full overpowered.
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>>50969428
That doesn't seem very fluffy tail at all!
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>>50969405
Would Urgathoa be upset if you didn't rape any noncombatants?
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>>50969437
Even if he teams up with an undercover spy masquerading as a member of the assassin's guild?
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>>50969446
Did you read the listing?

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65439/a-fluffy-fairy-tale
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>>50969239
Mine's a Bethrothed Avowed with the Old One pact! Everything she sees is horror, and the only thing keeping her going is her waifu!
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>>50969458
Is she a kitsune?
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>>50969479
Of course! Kitsune can appreciate the cold embrace of the Old Ones just as much as anyone else!
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>>50969458
That is not a waifu, that is a shoggoth.
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>>50969374

yeah that looks like over a thousand years of having kids.
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>>50969458
>This'll be a noblebright and weeby game pretty much, nothing too grim or dark.
That doesn't sound very noblebright!
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Would a zenko kitsune sacred blacksmith be okay?
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>>50969458
>>50969487
I always find it strange that nobody considers what happens with Old Ones and Outer Gods and the like once you get past the horror aspect. Fear fades, and existential horror is easily dealt with by having a little self-confidence and perspective.

Is it just because of the tentacles or something?
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>>50969374

That looks like a woman that's lived a thousand years and has been with anyone and anything in the multiverse.
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>>50969502
>>50969521

Yall are both wrong!

>>50969374
That looks like a woman who is actually past her prime but uses transformation magic to make herself beautiful.
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>>50969520
I had a character who was an alienist. He was quite mad by anyone's standards, but he just saw things in a different light. Mostly ultraviolet, but also some low band gamma radiation.
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What's a daoine sidhe and why should I play one?
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>>50969560
It basically means "Fey Nobility"

I don't care whether you play, though.
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>>50969534

>Busted old slut using magic to enhance her figure to absurd proportions

Anon please, it's 9:30 and I have a hangover, it's too early for something this hot.
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>>50969567
>fey nobility
>level 1 daoine sidhe commoner possible
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>>50969591
Nobility among the fey is a concept that is not merely delineated by raw power.
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>>50969520
Realizing that everyone else is seeing a gargantuan lie, spinning their own fragile little fairy tales to protect themselves from a truth which now seems perfectly reasonable, breeds lack of understanding, frustration and anger.
These people are lying to themselves, lying to others and blinding their eyes. They remain ignorant to the things that truly matter, don't worship the gods that really exist and do nothing but writhe around without a greater purpose.
Understanding that everyone else's existence is fundamentally meaningless makes you dismiss them, resent them, hate them and so many other things. Because you know the truth and you don't want to deny the true authority of the universe in order to make the ignorants squawk in drooling glee, you must distance yourself further and not try to repress your hatred and loathing (or maybe just your complete and utter clinical disinterest), because anything else would be the basest of heresy.
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>>50969520

The Elder Things and Fish people got past the horror aspect, and the result was glory unending and knowledge beyond your wildest dreams.

The Old Ones represent the Beyond, the lands outside the window of your cell, or the contents of a locked book. They are the bones of this world, and the only reason madness results is because it's so much information being dumped on you at once.

Meeting an Old One is like a Greek philosopher watching the Space Shuttle descend from the heavens to unload a pair of professors in space suits, speaking English and writing in Chinese. It's overwhelming to almost anybody, and if you can actually handle the culture shock and understand their language you will learn things no one in your age should know... But it comes at a cost, because knowing is not the same as convincing, and you won't be convincing anyone of anything you just learned.
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>>50969591
>>50969615
Daoine sidhe are just generic fey, they're not necessarily nobles.
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Is there some way to specialize in chronomancy that isn't Time Oracle? Ideally something wis or int based, either 1pp or DSP psionics (so no riven hourglass).
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For the furry game can I play this?
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Why is there a furry game
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>>50969671

Because someone wants to run one?

Furry game isn't so weird when you consider this thread was fine with a campaign about a cock-hungry dragon slut sending her children out to hump and be merry in the outside world.
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>>50969620
>>50969628
I believe you two may have misunderstood my question. I wasn't asking what happens - I'm quite aware of what happens (and I'm also aware that there's a third possibility, past madness or bland cynicism).

I was asking why nobody ever puts together characters that go past the madness bit and has fun with a character that understands, but doesn't let it stop them from living their life.
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>>50969686

Dragon DM here.

Is that the meme that's going around now? The game is about a lazy elderly woman suddenly wanting to spread her influence across the world and using her children to do it.
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>>50969693

Someone was going to apply for RotJR with a character like that!
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>>50969708
Really? Who?
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>>50969658
>>50969671
Kemonomimi, not furry!
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>>50969686
Those are both terrible, m8. Why can't there be a game about heroism and justice?
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>>50969722
So I can't play a grizzled watership down bunny archer?
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>>50969726
Because those sorts of games are overdone?
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>>50969729
Maybe not, sorry.
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>>50969693
But that's the thing. The realization is too large to grasp, on a conceptual level. It'd be like trying to run a modern game on a punch card computer. Sure, the ones and zeroes are the same, but the capacity simply isn't there. At best you reject it wholesale, just don't keep any of it with you. At worst it forces you to shut down, just fries your brain. The only thing in between is grasping a bit of the unknowable, but even that changes you, because a part of you realizes the significance, and the only way to keep from sinking into madness is to never acknowledge it.
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>>50969671
Please don't question it.
As much as I'd like to shit on it, too, I know /tg/ well enough to know that it's going to get even worse if you do. It's like one of those very same furries popping all their acne - it's only going to spread and get disgusting white gunk all over everything else.
At some point, it's going to get so inbred that the furries flee to another site and have their hugbox in peace, and it's going to take a bit longer before another game like that starts.
People always talk about how these things "spread", but in years and years of watching spergy games, CYOAs and quests on here evolve, it's always ended in the same pattern where people start getting unironically spergy to the point where they flee of their own will to escape other people's opinions.
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>>50969739
You've clearly never read The Litany of Earth. there's actually a mostly appropriate Conan quote for this:

"Let teachers and priests and philosophers brood over questions of reality and illusion. I know this: if life is an illusion, then I am no less an illusion, and being thus, the illusion is real to me. I live, I burn with life, I love, I slay, and I am content."

You don't have to have an impact on the world at large to enjoy yourself. Perspective is a hell of a drug.
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>>50969733
Literally never played one in my life. It's always "Good Necromancer" this, and "Exotic Slut" that.
It's terrible.
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>>50969761
You may be spending too much time on /tg/ then.
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>>50969686
I love when fags like you act so high and mighty when people get sick of your fucking "lewd" ERP games.
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>>50969726
>he can't be a heroic champion of justice who is also a depraved slut
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>>50969789
Well the important part is that you too get to enjoy belittling others.
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>>50969793
By definition that's a contradiction, son
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>>50969789
And you're not dripping with intolerable self-satisfaction right now, are you?
I don't even like these shitters, but I know from experience that you just ignore them and everyone has fun. If you flip your tits, no one has fun and you look like a sperg on top of it.
Be a mature adult and leave the children to their playground. A mature adult doesn't go tearing up sandcastles and smashing slides while screeching about how the kids have to be proper adults right now.
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>>50969739
To continue the line of thought, and the computer analogy, it's all about information density. The Great Old Ones, the Outer Gods, they're like the singularity, something not only beyond our current conception, but for which we lack any proper comparison. There is no frame of reference, no perspective, in which we can understand them. The other races, they're able to comprehend it. They're not on that level, but they've advanced to a level at which they can take in bits and pieces of these utterly vast beings without being driven mad.

By comparison, Bast, Nodens, the 'benevolent' beings, they're not necessarily looking to be kind, they're just able to translate from the vastness to the concise little bits that we can take in. That's why we like them.

>>50969755
But that's missing the point of Lovecraftian Horror entirely. Yes, Conan can say this big thing about how he's got it all under control, but he lives in a different genre from Cthulhu, and even if you write 'Conan meets Cthulhu' either that's not Conan, or that's not Cthulhu. I'm trying to think of an appropriate comparison, and I'm not sure I can find one, but by saying 'no, humans have the perspective to survive cosmic horror,' it is no longer cosmic horror. An assumption of the genre is that humans /cannot/ do exactly that.
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>>50969804
Depends on the society, I imagine.
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>>50969804
>who is shelyn
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>>50969819
Shelyn favors love over lust.
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>>50969717

It was a young woman that escaped an Old One Cult, but not before seeing the end of all things. She came out of it changed, interested mainly in living, loving and laughing, experience life before it ends!
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>>50969806
How are you meant to "ignore it" when it takes up entire threads? You can barely discuss anything else but these games and one or two of them pop up literally every other day at this point. It's getting out of fucking hand.
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>>50969819
Shelyn is Pure! PURE!
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>>50969804

Not necessarily! What the heroic warrior-woman does in her bedroom (or against a tree) does not define her as a person when she's saving the town from vile Orcs!
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>>50969829
I mean, are you even trying to discuss anything else or are you making the topic take up even more thread space by continuing to complain about it?
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I want to fight Dragons as dragons while dragons watch.
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>>50969807
>Cosmic Horror
I was never talking about that though? Everything I was saying was perspective and eldritch entities. You're the one who brought in cosmic horror as a genre.

These things can, in fact, exist in cohesion with the wider world in stories other than the cosmic horror genre. On top of that, i honestly cannot for the life of me understand why these things would be so hard to grasp that they'd drive people insane. Particularly in things like a fantasy story where we have multiple planes of existence and wizards who can turn grown men into rabbits.
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>>50969845
I guess the only solution is to lurk forevermore.
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>>50969821
>>50969838
>who is Arshea
>who is Lymnieris
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>>50969861
Or try to generate different discussion topics.
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>>50969819
Behead those who insult Shelyn!
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>>50969829
Don't mention it in your posts and don't reply to posts which mention it.
Just because something is there doesn't mean you have to react to it. By your logic, you wouldn't be able to enjoy 4chan because you can't ignore the links to the shittier boards.
Is there something unnatural that compels you to reply to those posts? Is there literally someone standing behind you with a gun to your head, ready to blow your brains out if you don't reply to them or write unrelated things?
I don't understand how the fuck you think. Your life must be hard if there's nothing for you to do but burst into furious rage as soon as you see something you don't like.
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>>50969812
I suppose you're right. An Evil society might have different ideas about proper conduct.
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>>50969853

I want to fight dragonslayers as dragons while my kidnapped princesses watch.
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>>50969877
Well depraved doesn't have to be evil, though it's most often used that way. Perverted is also one aspect of it, and while that wouldn't be considered heroic in some societies it may be unrelated to it in others.
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>>50969856
>“The Litany of Earth” is a dark fantasy story inspired by the Lovecraft mythos.
Because you referenced a book that claims to be taking inspiration from Lovecraft while apparently entirely missing the point of Lovecraft.
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>>50969871

HUG THOSE WHO INSULT SHELYN!

BULLY IS THE CANCER, SHELYN IS THE ANSWER.
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>>50969874
My life is well and good, faggot, how about yours? But you are right, I don't have to react to it.
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>>50969839
But Anon, her unfaithfulness is a constant assault on herself and her Trye Love! Not all attacks are with a blade, but they harm just the same! She must not defile herself or others!
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>>50969878

I want to lay and slay dragons as a dragonslayer while kidnapped princesses who are actually dragons watch!
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>>50969891
I still totes want to play a paladin of Shelyn.
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>>50969878
>>50969853

>Dragon DM is removed mentions of lewd content being available and took off the 18+ tag.

I think we've upset him.
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>>50969882
By definition to walk outside the Light of Purity and Wholesomeness is to commit Violence against the Pure and Wholesome Goddess Shelyn.

Don't disappoint her!
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>want to be oracle
>but don't want to be charisma based
how do i do this
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>>50969884
Or, you know, it deals with it in a different way, perhaps?

Also, this whole thing still has no bearing on my original question. Why do people not play the sort of character that can deal with the eldritch truths and carry on?
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>>50969911

>yfw swimmingeagle doesnt want lewd anymore.

The fuck kind of bizzaro /pfg/ have i entered?
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>>50969929
Any 3pp content available?
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>>50969929
Play a different class.
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>>50969916
beauty is in the eye of the beholder, anon. Shelyn doesn't judge whatever safe and loving activity two or more consenting adults get up to in private
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>>50969929
Shaman or Cleric.
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>>50969951
So not an oracle at all.
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>>50969944
Just DSP psionics, no PoW
>>50969947
Different classes don't have Embrace Destiny, or Time mystery
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>>50969955
>Just DSP psionics, no PoW
Nope, you're hecked. Beg your DM.
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>>50969948
So now you're a loving slut? Nice try, heretic, but I can't allow you to corrupt Shelynite doctrine like this. Either surrender to our Love Reeducation Squadron, or you shall be made to submit by force!
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>>50969982
>submit by force
ara ara ~
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>>50969911

Well there goes my incest loving white dragon idea...
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>>50969348
Well, I don't know why it's shat upon, but it's not the only non-lewd campaign /pfg/ has!

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65297/the-pendragon-institute

Lewds are not welcome here! Just fun, adventure, and CHIVALRY.
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>>50969937
Because either
a) You're making no distinction between high fantasy and cosmic fantasy. In that case there are people can deal with the eldritch truths and carry on, it's called every wizard ever.
b) You are distinguishing between high fantasy and cosmic fantasy. In that case people don't play that sort of character because it's literally impossible, by the boundaries of the setting.
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I wake up and the first new thread is this shit. Bloody hell /pfg/, you're a bigger mess than my grandparents, and they have a foot out the door while in denial.
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>>50969055
>>50969911

god damn it.
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>>50969989
An admirable attempt, but my lusts were purged once I reached manhood to protect against these very sorts of wiles. Your voluptuous hips and sultry gaze will never defeat me!
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>>50970027

Can SwimmingEagle confirm if the game is no longer lewd?
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>>50969911
You did this to yourselves, do you read the shit you people spout?
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>>50970006
Okay, fair enough.
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>>50970038
>>50970040

Yeah, i'm axing lewd content. Getting pretty burnt out on this shit.
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kinda interested in some of these campaigns but have no idea what pathfinder is at all.
should i fuck off or would i be welcome as a newpleb?
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>>50970044
Sorry if I seemed a bit snappish, it just frustrates me how the Lovecraft mythos gets cheapened, especially by insertion into high fantasy. It's the same reason why Gygax didn't want to put angels in D&D. If you put it in there, players will kill it, and if they kill it, now it's that wuss that got killed by a raging barbarian.
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The dragon game was just an attempt to shit up the thread even more. First by opening it up as lewd to randy everyone up, then to take it away to rile everyone up. The GM just wants to make a living by mining some salt.
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>>50970052
You'd probably have to learn how to play the game, but most of the groups recruiting right now are rather newfag friendly.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GET OUT!
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>>50970065
Here comes the witchhunting.
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>>50969893

Unfaithfulness to who? If the woman is single and currently not looking for a long-term lover, there's no harm in casual flings or indulging her lusts as long as it's safe and consensual!

Whether she's an 18 year old virgin or a 32 year old woman who's idea of a "good afternoon" involves an Enlarge Person spell, they're both equally deserving of love and happiness in Shelyn's eyes!
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>>50970083
Sorry, just add in ">MFW I realise"
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>>50970062
Yeah, I understand that. And don't worry about being too snappish; I didn't really notice it since there's no tone in text.

That said, I do believe there's ways to make creatures that are insane to try and harm in any significant way in basically any game, the developers just need to understand their own game to make that work, and neither Wizards nor Paizo are capable of doing that properly. shadowrun is a much better example of that - the sheer logistics of taking on a Great Dragon are ludicrous, and not even guaranteed to work.
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>>50970071
i do have a little bit of experience in other RPGs, but my knowledge is pretty limited.
how hard ya think it'd be to learn?
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>>50970065
>>50970065

Let me add a caveat.

If you're character is built entirely around lewd. it's not going to get accepted.

Build a compelling character first, then lewd aspects, if any, should come after as a foot note.

Think you guys can abide by this gentleman's agreement?
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>>50970051

I'd post a sad face if I had one on this phone, anon!

Is the Dragon Queen still acquiring lovers?
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>>50970114

YOu posted a little too soon to see my cavaet above you.

>>50970114


Focus on making an entertaining character. I'm assuming this guy is the dragonslayer that got recruited by The Queen.
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>>50970099
Yeah, Great Dragons are much closer to Lovecraft than Cthulhu in Pathfinder, since they work outside the rules. There's a bit of loss because they're something that we as players have reference to, but the fact that most of the time they'll just laugh and redo everything makes it work well. It's similar to the way Antediluvians work in Vampire: The Masquerade, and why even to vampires, who are pretty tough motherfuckers, the Antediluvians are the monsters under the bed.

>>50970102
It really depends on what your experience is. If it's D&D 3.5 then not hard at all, same for any d20 system.
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>>50970102
We can guide your hips, anon. What kind of character would you want to make?
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Someone sell me on one of /pfg/'s lewd games, I feel like getting in touch with a new group for the new year even if it might be cancer and it sounds like fun. GMs, what are you looking for and offering? Other potential players, what do you want, what makes you excited about each game? Gimme a pitch!
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>>50970110
That's okay, I didn't apply. I've no desire to play in lewd games. I was just having a bit of fun.
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>>50970157
Have any lewd games from /pfg/ even started?
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>>50970110

That's how I always make characters, Eagle! The best types of lewd characters are the ones that aren't lewd at all, besides some subtle insinuations!
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>>50970171
Hell's Vengeance is two sessions in. Seems like it hasn't gotten anywhere though.
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>>50970183
Nah, they're through the first encounter and derailed the second with side channel stuff.

Making fairly good progress with it.
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>>50970192
In two games they've only gone two encounters?
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>>50970040
>>50970038
>>50969911
>>50970180

IF anything tell me why i should allow lewd. If you can convince me, with absolutely zero bullshit. i'll consider it.

If i do allow it, it tends to become the absolute center of people's thinking. I know i've been a victim of it.

If anything its just a really rough morning for me. Not exactly the best start to the new year.
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>>50970203
I think the inclusion of a halfling initiating ninja delayed the first part of the book.
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>>50970171
The evil game is a few sessions in to my knowledge.
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>>50970203
Depends on how you define encounter. They fought what Paizo intended to be 3 separate encounters (+a halfling ninja for spice) as one encounter through one battle. With the party split.

No progress in the second session happened because of a late start, and wound up being almost entirely RP (which is not a bad thing). Side channel technically took out half of a future encounter (not even the second "Scene" of the AP, one that was much further down), and derailed the second scene of the AP.
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>>50970088
Why isn't she looking for a long term lover, knave?! Does she hate Love?!
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>>50970243
Okay, yeah that's a bit more than I was expecting with one encounter. I was imagining one of paizo's encounters.
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>Reach out to an old friend who DMs
>"Know what would be awesome? We all play Petyr Baelish"
>Throw together a framework for a kingmaker campaign
>He goes and grabs one of his friends as the final player
>Oh by the way, it has to be Pathfinder
>Oh by the way, I need a month of prep time
>Oh by the way, we're going to be in my kitchen sink setting
>Oh by the way, you're going to be like a footnote for my RL game
>Oh by the way, this country is a theocracy, not really a monarchy
>Oh by the way, you'll be tripping over clerics, so you can't really assassinate anyone
>Oh by the way, the elite are all owls
I swear to god he had a fucking checklist or something.
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>>50970263
They've basically gotten through the first two scenes of the book (the Tannery and Meeting Razelago), now that I think of it.

Poor Fifth Sword Knight Allamar thought she was in a story about plucky rebels against the Chelish government, but found out that she was the Lady Knight in a mind-break doujin. Which will make the next scene a bit trickier to write.
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>>50969100
>https://app.roll20.net/join/1803693/cj7W9A
>Post invite link
>Everyone who follows link gets added as a player
>24 "players"
How many people are actually in this?
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>>50970320
Thanks for reminding me to leave it.
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>>50970155
Not sure yet, my friend. I think I would have to know more about the system first.
The campaign I was interested in was the third one, so I'm not entirely sure how that affects things
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>>50970320
Four people at the moment.
The discussion thread has a pastebin with info.
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>>50970130

I'm actually working on a Kurgessian strongman from Taldor that might entice the Queen with his endless bravado and oiled pecs!
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>>50970244

Because she's having some fun before finding The One, anon! How are you supposed to know what you want from a man when you lack the perspective on the types of men out there?!
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>>50970301
>That Spoiler

Go on. Details. I want to know how degraded she gets for entirely lewd reasons.
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Out of curiosity, does elemental spell change the descriptor of the spell in question? Do features tied to specific elements (e.g. the Draconic bloodline arcana) still apply when the damage type is changed completely?
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>>50970361
Do you have room for a healer? How about one that's part of an assassin team because she's highly trained at convincing other people that she's good, kind, and pure and would never be the one making the assassination plans right under their noses. She's just a very skillful healer who wants to help.
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>>50970413
Ask your DM. I've looked into it myself, and I haven't been able to find a good answer. RAW, it doesn't, since it just says type and not descriptor, while other things, like the Elemental Sorcerer Bloodline, say type and descriptor. On the other hand, it makes no sense not to change the descriptor. A spell that deals cold damage is a [cold] spell.
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>>50970365

Seeing as i'm being a little bitch at the moment, I'm putting lewds back on the menu.

HOWEVER, i'm putting in a few guidelines for lewd content. And putting up a discussion thread for discussion on this topic.

In general, i'd like the focus of your characters to be AT MAXIMUM 40% lewd. I'm not some prude fuck face, just kinda bleh at the moment.
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>>50970359
By third one, you mean the fluffy tail first world one? And really you can build just about anything, if there's one thing PF has in abundance it's material to play with.
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>>50970374
The divine guidance of Shelyn is all she should need!
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>>50970440

Hm. I was hoping there was some sort of official clarification that I just couldn't find. Thanks though.
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>>50970451
Just say "Don't tread on my fetish-ban list" and then don't list what fetishes you ban. It makes the selection process more exciting for those that have to deal with the posts.
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>>50970494

But anon, i have very few things that aren't my fetish.
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>>50970457
Yeah that's the one. I just don't have much experience and don't want to slow down the campaign.
I posted in its discussion thread so I will see what the GM says
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>>50970403
>Go on. Details

Not him, and I haven't actually read the logs, but from the sound of it she got beaten down by the hermaphroditic Vigilante and her fiendish wolf companion and then dragged onto the Altar of Iomedae.

Apparently, they made her put on the Angel Mask defiled with a bloody third eye, and forcibly bred by either the Tiefling or the wolf for the purposes of spawning Lamashtan children.
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>>50970505
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>>50969516
>fluffy tails
>constantly near fire
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>>50970505
Son, that's just because your fetish horizons are so limited

>Hyper giantess
>Bestiality toilet play
>Oral castration
>Non-consensual abortion
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>>50970505
>>50970451

I'm going to be honest with you; anyone that makes a fetish the focus of their character is making a bland and flat character.
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Does Pathfinder have rules for mounted combat? Are they good?
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>>50970451
>>50970505
>>50970542
Why the fuck am I getting actual deja vu from these posts?
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>>50970543
>Does Pathfinder have rules for mounted combat?

Yes.

>Are they good?

Kind of, but they're limited by the issue that most campaigns will never involve lots of wide, open spaces.
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>>50970541
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>>50970542
That's not strictly true. Although it's really hard to do if you're not tailoring the setting to the concept.
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>>50970541

>first spoiler

Are we talking a giantess that's also hyper proportioned? or a giantess that's bigger than planets?

I have a healthy appreciation for the first one. And a passing appreciation for the latter.
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>>50970550

Because appeals to reason after everyone makes stupid and absurd kink characters is unfortunately common around here.

I love large insertion and breeding as much as the next guy, but I'm not going to emphasize how huge my character's cock and virile balls are in their backstory (I mean, beyond maybe saying he's got a lot of kids.)
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>>50970301
>>50970524
>that spoiler
>THAT spoiler

Dude what. Maybe I SHOULD have applied to that game. Too late now though. A shame my DM doesn't do gestalt and doesn't tend to do many changes to APs, because he's expressed interest in running HV.
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>>50970576

What would you have made for that game?

It's really a "do whatever you want" kind of campaign, the fact we've got corruption and non-con bestiality by the second session speaks volumes as to what is or is not kosher.
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>>50970429
We definitely want a healer/utility caster, buuuut...
I think we also want more males at the moment. In theory a female character with a good enough concept could still get in, but being a guy is a big plus right now. Heck, even a trap could work.

Also I'm not sure how much your character will fit the setting when you're going around associating with a party who's much more blatantly evil, unless you want all your things to be solo missions.
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How does relativity burst work exactly /pfg/? I used it to move out of the way after some fool full attacked me but I got hit by the first attack and avoided the rest. I thought that it let you avoid shit altogether like if being targeted by an attack or a fireball. My DM says the effect happens first then you take a move.
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>>50969693
The real truth is that there is nothing left of much interest after the fear subsides, Lovecraft was a hack who could barely write that far. You open your closet, see that there are tentacles and scream, the end. The epilogue would be you staring for a while then finding somewhere else to put your towels, because most of the tentacles' purpose is only to contrive to scare you without reason.
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>>50970602
>I think we also want more males at the moment. In theory a female character with a good enough concept could still get in, but being a guy is a big plus right now. Heck, even a trap could work.

What *kind* of men? Are you looking for a particular build or concept that will scratch the most itches?

Shame it starts at 1:30!
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>>50970619
All the female characters just want to be violated really
Though from a non-lewd standpoint I'd also want someone able to get along with the party
So something like a rival who's a big bully and pervert but takes more of a liking to his teammates than he'd ever admit would be cute
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>>50970565

Depends on the kink, really.

Like, Amalthea was blatantly thicc and pregnancy-focused, but I really *really* liked the reasons behind her plumpness and hoped to see her develop a role as the party mom and devoted woman of a lucky male character which is really just me saying I love the idea of this woman being super into love and affection!
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>>50970602
I could be down for making the healer a trap. Best lewd game I ever had I was playing a trap and getting dressed up in beautiful dresses and forced to suck cock

>>50970619
>mfw just noticed this
Well, I guess I'm out. I'm white collar.
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>>50970640

>mfw those spoilers
>mfw that's exactly what I would've made
>mfw I love playing big brutish bullies that casually use and abuse his teammates, but ultimately loves them and will do anything to protect their dopey post-sex smiles.
>mfw that start time makes joining impossible
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>>50970644
Don't worry we could get you a new collar just for the game.
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>>50970668

Sometimes it is the america who is suffer for game, not the euro! hah hah!
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>>50970614

The Color Out of Time was pretty good!
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>>50970695
If only anon. If only.

I'd need a game starting at about 6 pm EST
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>>50970698
Don't even bother, he's just enjoying being a contrarian.
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>>50970698
The color out of space?
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>>50970697

I just want to give my teammates protection and, later, pick them up when I get the urge and show them that's the only protection I'm going to provide.

Is that too much to ask?
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Does anyone else build characters around music? I don't mean listening to music while building a character, I mean listening to a piece of music and building a character around it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP_PK88J3KM
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>>50970614

>implying

No, you open your closet, you realize that your worldview is shattered as you come face-to-face with things you cannot comprehend and which violate your quaint worldview.

And you barely survive whatever tried to kill you and in fact, could strike you at any time and you would be utterly helpless.

Quit being so jaded, man. I know we're post-atomic age, but think back: The Radio and Atomic ages represented the end of the enlightenment. Where rationalism was supposed to make things clearer and help mankind, what we ended up uncovering were more mysteries, brand new ways to kill each other in positively horrific ways, and the reintroduction of mystical bullshit.
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>>50970712
>>50970698
Color Out of Space was the one thing I unreservedly enjoyed out of him. There were others that I enjoyed mostly or partially (many with great buildup unfortunately dropping off how I described).
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>>50970791
>tried to kill you
You left out that it didn't even do that. If it tried to kill you you'd be dead, but you only survived because it didn't even realize you were there.
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>>50970603
>all this lewd talk
>anons ignore my question

PLS RESPOND ;_;
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>>50970791
Don't bother talking with him, it's pretty clear that he hasn't actually read anything Lovecraft wrote.
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>>50970805

I don't know what Relativity burst is. so i cant help you. Sorry Senpai i let you down.
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>>50970778
>Does anyone else build characters around music?

I do it all the time! Building characters is about selling a feeling, and the surest way to get in a groove is listening to music that puts you in the proper mood!
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>>50970810
I'm sorry my observation after having read multiple large collections upsets you anon.
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>>50970710
So uhm, if there's a volunteer DM that can run in the EST evening, let me know. There's quite a few players in here apparently.
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>>50970590
Nigga I don't even know, since I have a FUCKTON of character concepts on the backburner. My currant DM pitched the idea of playing HV way back when Vigilante was new, so I've been sitting on a Warlock for a while now. No idea what I'd have combined it with, since I'd have to convert it to spheres. Character wise, probably a turbonerd that's an immense prude in her social identity, and an ice-slinging hothead that's willing to take any job for the right price in her Vigilante identity. Immense focus on having disguises because yes she's a chick with a dick, but the vestigial wings are way more embarrassing and nobody must know.

The character I was originally gonna use for that has since evolved into a CN Investigator for an Iron Gods game. She is instead a stab-happy hothead ALL the time now.
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>>50970643

The worst thing is, What with the applications ACTUALLY STARTING NOW. I'm forced to choose between Onryou and Amalthea.

I really like both, and i cant choose between them to fit the final party comp like i had originally intended.

Its a bad feel.
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>>50970817
It's the 5th level riven hourglass counter. Anon pls ;_;
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>>50970839
>Its a bad feel.

Why don't you start a strawpoll and see what people want you to apply with? Onryou's a sweetheart, but Amalthea is a proper motherly type. Each of them have their perks, but I'm a sucker for Amalthea so I'd recommend her, though Onryou's a bit more palatable for a Pathfinder campaign!
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>>50970825
>There's quite a few players in here apparently.

Yeah there is, but all the PCs that want a big buff man to roughly fuck them is in the other group.
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>>50970823
>multiple large collections
Nigga what. The entirety of the Lovecraft corpus can fit in a single volume. He was not a particularly prolific writer.
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>>50970590
Well, the wolf wasn't involved, just the Lamashtan Vigilante. The Wolf kept its jaws around her remaining son's neck (she accidentally killed the first son with a crit) to ensure that the Sword Knight was... cooperative. Had Sersh not had a hostage, Allamar would have fought to the death, which would have REALLY derailed things.

Also, mind that this was all side-channel stuff, not in the main game. The worst that's happened in the main game is threatening to rape the halfling ninja chick, IIRC. Who then proceeded to stab the world's most moe Kuthonite in the ovaries with a dagger she had hidden on her person. Called Shot to the "vitals" and everything.

Oh boy. I know what I'm going to do for the Sermon in the Square, now.
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>>50970870
I don't know about you anon, but I'd prefer a girl holding the other end of my leash and a DM that likes to have big, hung monsters in rut
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So, /pfg/, I never played that D&D version and my players arent going to let me test a game of it because they like to punch stuff. So, what would be a good place to start playing? Normally I dm, but no way I'm going to dm a game I have no experience with and that has quite a huge number of things you can use.

Any suggestions?
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>>50970890
Start with 5e if you're all new to the game.
Honest advice.
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>>50970855
>>50970839

might as well.

CHOOSE MY CHARACTER /pfg/!!

http://www.strawpoll.me/12005257
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>>50970890

While >>50970897 makes an excellent point, if you really do have your heart set on Pathfinder, I'd recommend using the Rise of the Runelords adventure path, which is downloadable in the trove in the OP.
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>>50969289
Well, on one hand, /pfg/ is the unspoken Magical Realm General. I don't even play the game, I just come here and the lewd questions. On the other hand, /pfg/ being the only board to run a solid Towergirls campaign might be something redeemable about it.
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>>50970897
No no, I'm new to pathfinder, Not D&D. I played 1.0 and died a lot, 2.0, some 3.5 and got confused, and now starting a campaign wit my rl players in 5.0.

What I mean is that I want to see what pathfinder has to offer by itself.
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>>50970914
>some 3.5 and got confused
Take that, cut it back by maybe.. 20%? That's what Pathfinder has to offer.
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>>50970914
>>50970930
And that it's still got support and an active community. You'll be able to talk to more people online and get more feedback, as well as have an even more vast array of resources to use. Not to mention that most 3.5 stuff has been converted to PF by players over the years.
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>>50970914

The rules are slightly less of a mess than back in 3.5, and there isn't nearly as massive a glut of resources (using a single class is much more viable in Pathfinder, though there are still plenty of character options). However, it's still obtuse at times, and the attitude towards trap options unfortunately persisted.

I do recommend trying one of the prewritten campaigns if you want to get into it, at least until you have some idea of what you're doing. The general can probably recommend some of the better ones.
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>>50970890
Try out We Be Goblins. I've heard the modules are decent, and they're free.
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>>50970914
If you've played 3.5, then Pathfinder is basically more of the same. Conversely, if you didn't like 3.5, you're almost certainly not going to like Pathfinder either.
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>>50968824
>Rise of the Jade Regent: starts at 0000
>Sexy DragonsFluffy: starts at 2015
>Tails in the First World: starts at 1900

Third shift is suffering.
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>>50970909
>>50970930
>>50970959
>>50970962
>>50970979

Alright, I will take the advice and see these two modules you anons said are decent, and find some players to play them. If it is less of a mess than 3.5, even if slightly, it means it's enjoynable with the right group.

>>50970996
I enjoyed it actually, was a bit messy, but we ended passing our teenager years playing just that. I had a lot of random splatbooks for it, so I just ended mixing each other and downloading the basic books on the internet. Ended with Iron kingdons trollkin and warcraft night elfs fighting hordes of not!Skaven
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>>50971028
RotJR day/time says it's not set in stone
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>>50971028

that time is the end of the application process, Same thing for Dragons.
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>>50971041
you can find everything you really need to get going on the pfsrd website. Anything else you can ask in here about or look in the trove held within the pastebin.
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Well, since applications are open and I'm having trouble picking, why don't you help me out, /pfg/? Here's the six I've narrowed it down to, maybe you can give me some help!

http://www.strawpoll.me/12005382
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>>50968824
>Avowed Playtest 2
I clearly lack system mastery to see how Betrothed is supposed to be played.
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>>50971050
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65144/of-dragons-and-yet-more-dragons
So you be saying this might be EST evenings.

Is that what you're saying?
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>>50971100
What are your issues with it? It seems fairly obvious to me. You team up with the companion to focus-fire people, or split focus to deal less damage but spread more debuffs.
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RoTJR is supposed to do the first book of RotR and then there's a two year timeskip into the first book of JR, right?
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>>50971156
Yep
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>>50970903

>For all the memes about her Amalthea is winning

So you guys DID like her after all.
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>>50971351

She's an interesting woman with a lot of potential character development.

Not a lot of people make widows either, especially widowed single mothers.
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>>50971382
This entire exercise has shown me that /pfg/ has really silly ideas about what qualifies as "character development".
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>>50971404

Sometimes we like the character's role in the story. Sometimes we like the character's role. Sometimes we just like the character!
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>>50971351

>Amalthea is now tied with Onryou

Spoke too soon?

How are you going to figure out which one you want to play, assuming it's tied? Going to make it random, or will you determine it another way?
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>>50971486
Do a runoff election unless the losers didn't get any votes at all
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>>50971486

I made the straw poll to help me with my Decision.

i was hopeing i could change when the final party load out was allowed, then i could pick something that fit the party.

If it comes down to that, The dice gods shall decide once and for all.
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>>50971510

My face at the moment.
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Now that the dust has settled and everyone that was going to apply, has... Who do you think will get in, and who do you WANT to see get in?
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What's the most helpful build possible in 1pp Pathfinder?
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>>50971564

Bard!
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>>50971593
Any particular feats or spells? I'm talking max helpfulness.

What about archetypes? I just want the most helpful possible slut I can make with 1pp materials.
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>>50971612

What kind of helpful do you want to be? Life Oracle is the ultimate heal slut, while Bards are the best at speaking pretty or servicing the party's needs with that big ole head of theirs!
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>>50968941
lol, I think there should be two /pfg/.

One where people actually discuss pfg while the cancer can jack each other off.
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>>50969304
technically it is a good thing, maybe if they start actually playing their shitty erp games they'll stop trying to do so here.

It would be nice to see someone advertise an ACTUAL game though.
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Does anyone have the Asian Archetypes: Martial PDF? I want to be a Mercurial Duelist!
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>>50971757
I would not mind running games, but they would be straight out of the book Paizo APs in GMT +2
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>>50971757

Rise of the Jade Regent and Molthune Knights are "actual" games.
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>>50971775

Jade Regent and Reign of Winter are actually really good if done straight from the book, it's part of why we love them so much.
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>>50971795

Actually, Jade Regent's caravan rules are pretty sucky. Most people tend to alter them or get rid of them completely.
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>>50971809

The caravan rules never come up in the book outside of very mild bullshit.
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Fuck. I don't play casters. Do familiars get better as you level? Do they get skillpoints and hp?
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>>50971786
RotJR maybe, but that Molthune Knights shit is pretty much cancer.

Either way neither have "actually" started, so their not doing anything to possibly stop or reduce the cancerous weeb/furry posting.
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God, let's not have a war like the last couple times.

This one has hit the bump limit. If the kitsune and anime posters want to make another thread, have some courtesy and finish out the existing thread first, so we don't get a pile of competing ones again.

NEW THREAD >>50969629
NEW THREAD >>50969629
NEW THREAD >>50969629
NEW THREAD >>50969629
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New old thread or somethin'
I don't know

>>50969629
>>50969629
>>50969629
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>>50971845
You're a butt for beating me.
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>>50971125
You team up with the companion to focus-fire people, or split focus to deal less damage but spread more debuffs.
But halved damage.
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>>50971875
DON'T CARE

HAVE A ROCK ELEMENTAL

>:|
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>>50971834
Familiars get half your HP, always. They do get skillpoints. The features they get are listed http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/familiar here
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>>50971660
Servicing needs more generally would be ideal. Any Bard archetypes good for servicing the party?
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>Looking at the poll.
>4 more people voted
>Still Tied
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>>50971886
yeah they have halved damage, which means if you team up with them to focus fire, you'll do a bit more damage than an unarchetyped avowed (because of riders, base damages, etc), and also cause the opponent to have more chances to fail saves.

It's a sidegrade to the base avowed class, anon.
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>>50971813
And even then, the encounters are often more fun played as normal combat encounters, maybe as mass combat if you're feeling fancy.

Just have plenty of details of what the other caravan members are doing on the sidelines, and maybe have them pick off some mooks/whittle away at a big guy while the PCs fight some major threats.
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>>50971901
That is a neat rock elemental
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