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Why would anyone EVER roll a female character over a male one?

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Why would anyone EVER roll a female character over a male one?
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>>50957172

A firm pair of tits and everyone wanting to touch them has a certain appeal!
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There are plenty of fantasy archetypes other than Beatstick McMuscles. Some only fit women.
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Well i usually play MtF trans characters.
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>>50957172
Examine your gif closely and you may discover the reason.
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It's much harder to make the assassin-prostitute archetype work with a guy.
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>>50957240

And is there a reason you do this, anon?
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>>50957172
Fun
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>>50957172
Getting dicked is my fetish.
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>>50957172
What's the difference in your mind?
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>>50957263
N-no.
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>>50957172
Because female are bigger and stronger obliviously!
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>>50957172
In CoC and Delta Green, you can play the committed mother who gets roped into saving the world from extradimensional horrors. Imagine having to sever your relationship with your kids in order to travel across the world to stop a cult. There's interesting stories to explore if you want to go there.

Oh, you're talking about D&D? I don't know why you'd play a female character because D&D's fanbase is an autism pit.
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It's fun to imagine a world where women aren't weak and cowardly.
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>>50957290

That is the stutter of a liar, anon!

Please, we're all deviants here, tell us your reasons!
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>>50957172
I have my reasons.
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>>50957303
Although the same applies to people who post anime reaction images and try to sound like cute girls.
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>>50957320
People post anime reaction images to imagine a world where women aren't weak?
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>>50957172
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>>50957331
No they would be even more useless than women.
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Otherwise we couldn't have these shit threads
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compelling storytelling.
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>>50957172
Being able to convince men to do whatever you want
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>>50957172
Bad bait.
Clorox is under the counter, kill yourself outside so nobody has to roll your fat corpse away.
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>Play exclusively female characters
>DM gives me shit about it
>Challenged me to play a male just once
>End up rolling a eunuch rogue that excels at disguise and spends most of the campaign disguised as a girl

Can't bring me down.
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>>50957331
no, it's fun to imagine a world where dumb autists online were actually capable individuals
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>>50957435

Are your women cute?
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>>50957172
Because I yelled "Women are odd!"

Then I rolled 1d6
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>>50957172
I have no idea, I have friends that almost only play as girls and they always give me strange looks when I question them about it.
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What the fuck is going on in that gif?

>>50957309
>>50957290
>>50957263

He obviously wants someone to roleplay with him sexually, whether they mistake his character for a woman or full on ERP.
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>>50957460
Sometimes. Usually they end up being the stronk, independent types. Ironically, I think the eunuch rogue was probably the cutest.
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>>50957172
All my characters are genderless and I mentally blank the gender of everyone elses.

I leave the table at any mention of sexual attraction or "flirting."

I will outright correct the GM when they bring up the idea of a dragon having a gender.

You probably believe this is autism. It's moral supremacy. Only a deviant would explicitly choose to give their fantasy creation a sex organ of any kind.

As I have chosen to walk the path of honesty, I have the right to judge, and I exercise it to the fullest extent. The hypocrite OP has no right to indignation when he himself is a sick freak who is ultimately just using traditional games as a medium to imagine a penis.

I am to my knowledge the only true traditional gamer. The rest of you are perverts.
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>>50957172
She looks just about ready for some standing rimming.
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>>50957486
Where's that from?
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>>50957518
My monsters are usually walking sex organs or something like that. The players rarely find out and when they do they feel sick.
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>>50957532
it's from read the filename dumbass
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>>50957518
>You probably believe this is autism. It's moral supremacy.
You had me believing until this point, you blew your trolling attempt by going overboard anon.
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>>50957518
Get a load of this faggot. I'll bet you don't even like qt boys.
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>>50957172
Some people enjoy playing roles in a role playing game.
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>>50957542
>Tricking people into fondling your mind penises

Is this a form of rape?
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>>50957172
Well, I can't fit as many spiders up my dick hole as I could up my snatch.
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>>50957583
>Can't into separating sex from intellectual pursuits

I bet you can't watch professional wrestling without becoming fixated on homosexuality.
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>>50957474
That's how I do it.
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>>50957611
It's multi layered horror.
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>>50957172
I played as the severed head of a man stitched onto the decapitated body of a woman, does that count?
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>>50957646
>intellectual pursuits

It's a game, anon.
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>>50957269
/thread
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>>50957172
To spite your bitch ass.
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>>50957240
I don't understand what that means. I assume M is male and F is female. What is the t? Also what are the M and F if I got those wrong?
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>>50957172
MAID?

Also what about the player being a girl?
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>>50957172
>'ctrl+f' -4 STR
>"no results found"
>soniamdisappoint.webm
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>>50957807
Male to female. (A guy who pretends to be a girl)
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>>50957807
'male to female trans' basically a man who got a sex-change to become a woman
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>>50957172
they make statistically no difference, so why not?
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>>50957852
>pretends
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Because who doesn't want a scantily clad sorcerer? Fuck the butch lesbian fighters, mor sorcerers!
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>>50957172
some people like roleplaying any kind of character. That can include male, female, or some weird alien race.

I mean, what if the player is a girl. Have you ever thought about that OP?
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>>50957518

>I will outright correct the GM when they bring up the idea of a dragon having a gender.

Does the idea of different sexes trigger you?
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>>50957913
Get back to /pol/ with your fragile ego.
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>>50957172
Usually I just come up with the character concept then ask myself "Would this character be more interesting as a man or a woman?"
Every once in a while the answer is "man," but usually not.
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Just to try something different
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>>50958162
That's like the exact opposite of what /pol/ believes anon.
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>>50957172
Because women generally have more stylish and cooler clothing options. I don't actually care that much about gender, only how fierce, fabulous, or cute my character can look.
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>>50957172
I have a bad habit of playing my male characters stoic as hell. Since they don't open up about their pain, most of my groups assume I don't recognize the character's inner turmoil and that I'm just "playing the numbers".

I don't seem to have that mental block with my female characters. So, when I play female characters, people get more invested in them, I even get compliments here and there.

I try to shoot for a 50/50 split on character gender, but the games where I've played male have observably died more frequently and more quickly than the ones I didn't. That kind of skews my numbers.

So, that's my damage.
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>>50957852
Well you know DnD settings literally got belts of sex change. So you can, infact, become a biological woman throught magic.

Triggered yet?
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>>50958382
It's been a while, remind me. Is that effect an Instant duration, or is it dispellable?
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>>50958382
Too bad 5e got rid of the belt. Oh but don't worry, we've put in a paragraph explaining how your character's gender doesn't have to confirm to binary limitations. And half orcs are no longer created through rape, but completely consensual matrimony.
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>>50958450
instant permanent, cannot be dispelled or curse lifted. So at that point why not start with a girl character?
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>>50958479

It's supposed to be a cursed item i believe
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>>50958479
That being the case, if you put the belt back on again, wouldn't you just change back?

... Well, I guess you might be male again, but there's no guarantee your facial structure and everything would be the same.
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Because you can't have a male pyromaniacal nun with a gun (or crossbow, for pre-powder fantasy)
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>>50958521
Not anymore.

Upset yet?
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>>50958568
No. Because I'll just continue to use it as a cursed item
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>>50958568
>upset
That's a funny way to spell horny.
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>>50958600
>not wanting to make it a curse item so after many dickings you revert back to the original form and watch people aroused but so confused on how to feel.
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>>50957489

>What the fuck is going on in that gif?

It looks like Japanese Pro Wrestling.
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>>50958590
I mean, I hate new gender policies but why would you keep it that way?

If it is a curse item people will not really care or in the worst case scenario will get mad, and if you use that item as a DM people will immediately think of you as a creep. So why even have it?
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>>50958467

>And half orcs are no longer created through rape, but completely consensual matrimony.

Because a human's first response to evil unintelligent hulking creatures isn't "Kill it", but "Oh man I really want to fuck that Orc!"
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>>50957172
Because anon, we're not all autistic manchildren who haven't grown past the idea of cooties. Some of us just either genuinely don't give a fuck about gender identity politics and just want to play a fun character idea we came up with, or find it funny to watch folks like you sperg out at the idea of "teh wymmenz" in your games of make believe.
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>>50958639
How long have you been on /tg/? The people here will fuck anything.
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>>50958639
>unintelligent
Orcs are dumb, but still of sapient humanoid intelligence. It's mostly (evil) barbarian tribes looking to bolster their territory that interbreed with Orc warbands.
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>>50958467
>And half orcs are no longer created through rape, but completely consensual matrimony.
Most of those are from a female orc with a male human so it's fine
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>>50958636
Because i either use it to get rid of trash players that no one in the group likes or to change things up a bit. And in one instance i based an entire campaign around the premise that a prince got turned into a chick by his half brother and he and his retinue went out to find a cure
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>>50958706
That sounds magical realm as fuck. You could just as easily had the prince incarcerated until the party found the magical item that would confirm he was the heir to the throne instead whoever wanted to become king.
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>>50958727
None of the players thought of that. Plus I've been playing with the same group (more or less) for 15 years. None of us are easily offended or easily grossed out
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>>50958382
What if he identifies as a woman with a cute femenine penis, not a "biological" magic woman with a stinky cunt?
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>>50958727
>things that could possibly be construed as someone's fetish are always magical realm
come on man, some people are able to keep things in their pants
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>>50957172
They are (on average) smaller.
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>>50958768
Plus my group( the guy he was replying to) are either married or have long term girlfriends.
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>>50958768
but why add it tho, its not like you could do the same in a better way without even going near that.
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>>50958639
Coalburners exist, don't they?
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>>50957172
About 1/3 of my characters are female. Sometimes I want to roleplay as another gender because escapism. And I always try to come up with female characters I would bone. So far I have played:

- A fiery-tempered goth chick swashbuckler who works as a street gang's enforcer. She will cut you.

- A one-armed eldritch knight who is definitely not!Furiosa

- A mild-mannered, pure, scholarly bard
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>>50957172
Because you can abuse your sexuality to get what you want done
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>>50957172
Yes. Two of the people in my group have played female PCs. One has done so multiple times.
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>>50958727
>you could just as easily replace this original premise with something completely uninspired and super boring
I mean, sure, you could, but that doesn't mean you should.
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>>50958968
I mean, if it is to avoid magical realm territory you should by all means.
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>>50959056
Why is your mind so perverted
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>>50957518
This is some fresh bait pasta Anon.

I love it.
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>>50958467
>half-orcs
Isn't that because a few years ago Greenwood had a whole write up about how if the vast majority of half-orcs were rape babies it would be impossible for them to have the population numbers to be worthy of noting, and as a result most people would have never even heard of one let alone have heard enough stories to stigmatize this huge guy with slightly off teeth?

As I recall he even went into the silliness of expecting orcs, who typically only venture into human territories for resources or massive wars would drop everything to go rape some women when they know there are going to be huge efforts against them. Some will get rapey, but most wouldn't, and with pregnancy not guaranteed and the realms having a great deal of ways to avoid pregnancy or to even avoid carrying the child to term, the chance of rape babies continues to drop to so small a number that they aren't worth addressing.

It is also worth remembering that with 5e taking so much from the Realms, that FR orcs are sapient humanoids and as a result just want to get by as opposed to the murder/rape/pillage everything for no reason that some other writers push.
And similar to how half-elves are common in any area where humans and elves have lived near each other, the sane is true of orcs and humans. Also there's another piece of writing that goes into detail about how in one of the eastern regions of Faerun, orc men are more or less the ideal mate due to the harshness of life out there and the fact that your orc husband could maintain twice the farm that a human could by himself, which is part of why tensions have risen with humans getting upset about stealing jobs and women. Especially with the orc culture of the region not seeing a problem with polygamy as long as you provide for uour wives/kids.

So, Greenwood may write a lot about sex, but he doesn't go full hentai logic, as opposed to Paizo's writers.
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>>50957172
Because why not?
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>>50957826
>Didn't roll/choose secretly a guy.
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>>50959056
But its not really.

Its just some fatass, triggered nerd on /tg/ screaming that it is.
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>>50957852
What's with the banana peel?
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>>50959056
Do you also drop games the instant the party has to fight a succubus?
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>>50958671
Why are interracial couples always so smug?
I don't get it
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>>50957611
>Is this a form of rape?
Only if its a straight white male doing it, then everything is rape
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>>50959128
It leaves you guessing where the banana went.
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>>50957916
My sibling!

Gloriously clad is just as good as scantily clad for me though.
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>>50957942
In my DM's home brew setting dragons probably don't have genders.

That has more to do with dragons being inherently magical reincarnating beings than any hang-ups though.
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>>50957303
>>>/r9k/
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>>50959148
I think you're just depressed. Just because someone is happy doesn't mean they are smug
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>>50957518
Found the repressed anon Poor little guy, what do you fear? Penises or vaginas?

Aside from the radicalism, more or less what he said. When I imagine a character I imagine him genderless and later add gender, except in maybe 1 exception because it worked better as a woman.
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>>50958656
Here here!

Additionally is it wrong to imagine having a devoted wife who can defend herself and go adventuring with you?

POST ORC WOMEN.
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>>50957518
I laughed.
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>>50957190
*PAAAARP*
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>>50958671
>>50959148
Because he's getting to tap big brown ass, and she's getting a guy whose not a thug and has good credit

White females have become sexless and hatefilled. In response, men look to races where women still act like women.
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>>50958639
where the fuck do you think you are?
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>>50959148
Attractive couples always look smug. They have something to be smug about, and it's only enhanced by your jealousy.
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>>50958361
>I have a bad habit of playing my male characters stoic as hell. Since they don't open up about their pain, most of my groups assume I don't recognize the character's inner turmoil

Sounds like your characters need a waifu, anon

Maybe I can be your waifu
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Rolled 5 (1d20)

>>50957518
I ROLL TO SEDUCE
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>>50959321
Not only do you fail to seduce, but my ideas haunt you during your next session.

1 or 2 and you would have been converted to to the True /tg/.
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>>50957172

Low self-esteem.
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>>50959095
>projecting this hard
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>>50959121
>my magical realm is not because I say so
k
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>>50959138
depends, is the succubus anything more than a demon trying to kill the party?
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>>50959103
I believe the notion of half orcs being a very insignificant number is pretty accurate and that you are confusing orcs with half orcs. orcs don't care about their children with humans, raping is just something they do. Half orcs are rare and ostricised exactly because of this, they remind people how barbaric their kin is and how they could be the same.
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>>50959128
It was a request in a drawthread.
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I like playing as women. I can't figure out why. I love being a man, and I'm not gay, but I love playing as women in games. It's weird though, I really don't like women in general. Maybe I'm trying to make an ideal woman.
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>>50959528
Nah mate, 5e takes from the Forgotten Realms and FR orcs are people.
This became such an issue for TSR that they eventually printed a new orc subtype that were good-aligned so they could explain that good orcs are a totally different species and there's nothing morally questionable about slaughtering typical orcs.
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>>50957172
Goddamn that gif was disappointing
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>>50957172
DM makes you roll for biological sex
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>>50959847
Based. Everything you don't decide irl should be rolled. This includes class since you can't choose your job, but you don't decide what you're good at.
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Why would anyone, voluntarily play a character that's primary purpose is to heal? I mean a fucking healer when you're supposed to be adventuring, literally a cuck.
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>>50958671
Tiny ass confuses me
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>>50959715
I thought Gnolls were the bad guys in 5e
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>>50959862
He only let us choose class, spells, feats, etc.
Age, Weight, height, sex, gender, orientation, kinks, all that stuff was rolled on charts.
I lucked out with a cute lesbian teenager paladin, even had a busty older bisexual necromancer woman to have reluctant feelings for.
But it could've been a lot worse
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>>50959965
They are now, yeah. Mostly because the vast majority of FR orcs aren't bad people.
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>>50959965
FR Orcs are now mostly just Savage, and tend towards Evil, but that's mainly from the connection to Gruumsh.

FR Gnolls are Always Evil literal retard cannibals who only know how to rip and tear.
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>>50957172
Who would ever roll a gendered character over a robot-golem?
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Human women have more value, men are considered disposable.
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>>50958639
Am I the only person that ever played a half-orc who was raised by both parents? My character's human father walked into an orc tribe, told everyone he was an orc, and thumped the heads of anyone who said otherwise. The chief thought it was hilarious so he allowed him to take the tribes rite of adulthood. He passed. The human married the most desirable orc female (she had murdered her past 3 ex husbands for weakness and wore a cloak made partially out of their faces).
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>>50957172
There's a VERY good reason why they call being a woman easy mode.
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>>50957445
But he didn't post a smug anime girl. And since he's anonymous, you can't really prove he ever has. I mean, it's likely, but it's more likely you're either projecting or butthurt about his opinion and are therefore calling him an autist

Sure, I don't agree with his opinion, but when was the last time someone insulted you and it changed your opinion?

"But I shouldn't have to change his opinion!"

Why post at all then?
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>>50957611
Apparently farting is now according to the crazies so most likely, yes

#fartrape sounds hilarious though, how the fuck did they think anyone was going to take that seriously?
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>>50958254
I thought pol was just a place where different opinions lived?
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>>50960389

That's fucking hilarious. kudos
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>>50957172
>Angry response telling you you're dumb.
>Dismissive response telling you you're dumb.
>Statement on how women are inferior.
>Statement on how playing women allows you to fulfil a sexual fantasy.

There you go you've got all the responses you wanted.
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>>50961469
You forgot metasummary of the responses, and response to metasummary
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>>50957172
As a male, I often feel that I'm going to be judged on male characters differently than female characters, and that I actually do play them differently.

Male characters are usually more what I consider an inspiring, ideal man. In my case, strongly moralistic individuals that try to do the greatest good and deal with their own flaws and weaknesses. The problem comes from how stiff this gets. Think like Superman - Superman is still a great character, but just about everyone knows what he's like, and attempts to force him out of his traditional characterization feel forced and generally don't have a good result. I have little desire to play a male differently, since oftentimes the way to vary them up makes them less ideal to me, and they feel distasteful. It gets boring.

But female characters are usually more along the lines of what I find attractive in a woman, and because my tastes are varied, this means the female characters can be varied. As well, I'm not feeling as pressured - I'm obviously not a girl, and what my character does isn't reflected back on me. It's okay for a female character to be cute, where a male character acting similarly would be seen as effeminate or weak. There are some problems, but overall it gives me a lot more freedom.
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>>50957240
Disgusting.
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>>50958361
I know that feel. I don't know how else to play male characters - being cheery and open feels forced, adding obvious weaknesses of character either make them a joke or derided.
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>>50960999

The only evidence I see that "fart rape" is a thing is from one website that seems to be a comedy website and people throwing fits assuming the article is correct. I think you have been put on a ruse cruise, my friend.
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Why does it seem like threads get worse every single day?
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>>50961693
It's hard to imagine they would ever be worthwhile. The ceiling on quality would have to be like five inches above ground level.
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>>50961693
Because every day we get a little more numb to what was stupid yesterday. We don't bother deriding it anymore because we grow used to it.
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>>50961645
With male characters either end with sneaky hobbits, Don Quijotes or I cast fist!

My favorite characters have been Angelo Armani, a not! Italian dictator of fashion that shitty money, was a coward, had a bunch of servants, all of them carried tower shields and pistols straps to their back, one of them its only jobs was to load my pistols.

The other was a not! Irish half fey whore, did not age, did not get sick, got drunk a lot, got into fist fights a lot, rivaled the gods beauty, fear running water and as any fey cold iron hurt like a bitch.

Both characters where so flawed it was fun to play, except when I shot a retarded kid because Angelo panic, resulting on the party running like from the town and my character throwing money to solve the issue.

Or when the whore mange to whore everyone up. Even musketeer lady, resulting in her musketeer uniform permnantly looking like picture related

I'm so forever GM, that when ever I play I end derailing games by accident.
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>>50959800
Right? Here's a better one.
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>>50959862
>class
>job

That's fucking dumb, retard.

Then again

>dn-fucking-d
>fun or good

You are disgusting.
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>>50958382
Well then you're just a woman until the magic is somehow dispelled or reversed, not a trans at all. The idea of trans people existing in a world with magic or super science is honestly pretty ridiculous and immersion breaking.

>>50957172
Roleplaying is all about pretending to be something you're not, and that logically applies to dangly bits as much as fangs, claws, eye lasers.
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>>50957172
Not everyone feels the constant compulsive need to prove to one's self and others that men are superior to women and that one is a man and not even remotely insecure with one's masculinity and therefore superior to women and men who are too much like women and therefore not inferior. So they play a variety of characters, rather than everyone playing the exact same character as everyone else every single time.
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>>50960451
Obliviousness and entitlement?
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>>50959312
You know, this might actually be good advice. It's certainly something to try.

Thanks anon.
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>>50961805
Now that's more like it. Leave it to honest Anons to outperform OP...
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>>50959466
>Its magical realm because I SAY SO
k
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>>50957293
Diving bell master race here, males all the way!
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>>50958302
So would you play a male character if you could deck him out with frills, accessories, and varied outfits?

>>50961645
>>50958361
Some character concepts to consider (which could easily be played as men but which aren't Stoic McFrownygrump).
>Fighter who lost his spouse and children, and is now obsessively over-protective of his party and others
>Dashing rogue/bard who shows affection through teasing
>Sickly spellcaster who resents his feeble body and constantly feels the need to show off

And no matter what type of character you're playing, "super-competitive" is a culturally appropriate man-emotion pretty much everywhere.

Added bonus, one survey showed ~65% of women secretly find it sexy. Myself included.
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>>50957172
Why not? There's no difference in the stats, so I get to be a woman and can use all the social benefits for RPing but get none of the physical downsides. But that would depend on the DM ofc.
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>>50962146
Well, it's not that trans people necessarily wouldn't exist, it's just that treatment would consist of a ten-minute trip to the local wizard.
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>>50962437
>mfw having commonplace magic and not having transsexuals is the same as having FTL in a sci-fi setting but no time travel
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>>50962477
If you wanna get technical, FTL is always time travel according to special relativity, whether they acknowledge it in-setting or not.
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>>50959174
>probably
nigger having a gender is a pretty set in stone thing.
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>>50957689

>the severed head of a man stitched onto the decapitated body of a woman, does that count?

What.
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>>50962598
How are you going to check a dragon's gender, anon?
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>>50963007
If you're unsure, ask the dragon's preferred pronouns. Easy as that.
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>>50963007
Gee, I wonder

>>50962437
After which they're just a man/woman.
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>>50962477
Most sci-fi settings don't deal with time travel though.
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>>50963373
I think the point/complaint being made is that, as far we can tell with our current understanding of physics, any setting with FTL travel must have access to time travel by definition.
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>>50957172 (you)
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>>50962390
>oh now! our soon to be king have been transformed into a princess!
>that means she cannot govern the kingdom because now she have a vagina!
>now his younger brother will have to become the king as his sister is not worthy!
>quick party! you must revert her to her true self before her brother becomes king!
Yeah, not magical realm at all.
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>>50959097
I think it's "satire" more than "bait".
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>>50963891
So it's less likely to be (or at least, come off as) magical realm if the setting falls somewhere in the middle of the in-setting sexism spectrum.

In a setting with complete gender parity, it would come off as extraneous. If there's little to no cultural difference in how men and women are treated, then it seems like you're just throwing gender bending in there for its own sake. "I'm a girl now! Guess it's time to wear pretty dresses and otherwise go about my business!"

While on the opposite side of the spectrum, in what I call the "Gor abyss", it also comes off as fetishy, because you just know as soon as a guy gets transformed it's rape city, bitch, rape rape city, bitch.

Female-to-male transformation is less common in fiction (fetish fiction in particular), so it's harder to extrapolate these kinds of trends.
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>>50963982
I get you, in the end it really come off as why would you use that specific reason to start an adventure if you could do the same in so many different ways without dong anything that remotely resembles a magical realm.

I could not care less about people playing magical realms, but the least they could do is accept they are playing such a game.
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>>50963891
I'm not seeing it - historically a lot of fights over succession came over when a female, or some claimant through the female line, attempted to become a queen or empress. Their succession did not seem as legitimate simply because they weren't male.
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>>50962240
chicks dig the mysterious guy anon
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>>50964424
This is a myth. The novelty of the mysterious guy wears off very quickly.
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>>50957293
This is an interesting point, all standard races tend to have larger males, aready there any with heavily female dominance? Any with major sexual dimorphism?
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>>50957172
>Wanted to see that tight pussy in shiny red panties facing the camera for longer
:(
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>>50964635
Why not just ask your gf to dress up for you?
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>>50957172
In Anima, the system I usually run?
>Differing resistances among Nephilim/Pure non-human races
>Ability to learn Selene Martial Art without getting a hit put out on them
>Easier access to certain Incarnation Summons, namely Linx Katze Hex, Loly Anne, and Eiko.
>Certain artifacts respond to women better than men
>Minimizing the risk of a Banshee deciding to fuck their day
>Increasing the risk of becoming a Not!Werebeast for RP purposes.
Those are the ones that leap to mind, anyway.

Also, subpar bait is subpar.
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>>50964603
Hyenas.
Research more on your own and find out.
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>>50957172
They are a female.

You fucking autist.
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>>50957172
>Why would anyone EVER roll a female character over a male one?
I wanted to run a unicorn hunter, and the mythology is fairly concrete on the chromosome requirements.
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>>50964931
All I can find is that they can only be captured by a virgin. Seems like the perfect setup for an "I am no man!"-type situation in reverse.
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>>50957172
Is there a /tg/ Rumble Roses homebrew?

That could be a good reason.
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>>50965018
Fuck! I need this. It's gonna be magical realm as hell if I make it, though.
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>>50965032
Does catfight tactics count? It hasn't been updated in years.
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>>50965032
That's what roll20 is for, brrruther.

>>50965041
Qhat's that? Explain?
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>>50965000
The unicorn sense is of supernatural nature, it won't be fooled by common disguise.
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>>50965046
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Catfight:_Tactics

This is what I could find on 1d4chan, I don't remember anything about the supposed setting though. When I playtested it it was just a grid based wrestling game with qt female characters for fluff.
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>>50965088

>Furry, futanari-on-futanari

FUCK, I HAVEN'T ROLLED THOSE FETISHES TO ENJOY THIS yet
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I don't understand how people can still find it awkward when a guy plays a female character. Not to spout memes but IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR really does apply in this case. I've seen so much weird shit that people play with a straight face and serious intentions I'm often more surprised that the female character is actually female and not something... else.
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>>50965119
Anon, pls, stop spreading misinfo.
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>>50962437
And then they'd still kill themselves at the same rate.
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>>50965260
Why would you add that change to your fantasy setting?
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>>50961805
OW!
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>>50959103
>but he doesn't go full hentai logic, as opposed to Paizo's writers

Can you explain that? I don't follow that setting. Golarion is it?
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>>50964481
This is true, being an impenetrable mystery will eventually put them off.

On the other hand, being the only one who "gets" you can do a lot to make them feel special and wanted.

At least that's been my own experience.
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>>50959265
>White females have become sexless and hatefilled.

i don't know, anon
my french-german girlfriend is pretty joyful
she tells me that while i fuck her
maybe it's just cuz she's so much younger than me
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>>50965715
are you, by any chance, the loligrooming crossposter from /fit/ ?
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>>50959128
>What's with the banana peel?
It was a phone drawing for a request of a waifu version of that banana stripping naked and holding it's peel.
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>>50965807
This image.............I really like it
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>>50965745
nope, just an old fart that managed to pull a young hotty right when I had pretty much given up on women
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>>50957240
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>>50965745
No, that would be me
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>>50964603
Drow society is ruled by females.
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>>50964693
she is not fit and is very bad at being sexy. at least she likes me.
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>>50966568
>very bad at being sexy
Golly do I know that feel.

I'd think whatever malcontent may come from your girlfriend not being fit would be outweighed by the pleasure of knowing that there's someone putting on shiny red panties just for you.
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>>50963911
I agree right up until this line

>As I have chosen to walk the path of honesty, I have the right to judge, and I exercise it to the fullest extent. The hypocrite OP has no right to indignation when he himself is a sick freak who is ultimately just using traditional games as a medium to imagine a penis.

That to me smacks of bait.
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>>50966284
Where is the little girl? What did you do to her?
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>>50959103
The half-orcs from Tolkien's works (the few that were mentioned) were implied to be purposely bred, right?
By Saruman, I think.

Is that a thing in FR/Golarion/Greyhawk? Baddies actively breeding new henchmen-races.
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Hey /tg/
Here's a challenge.
Use this roll chart I made to challenge yourselves to play something outside your comfort zone for once.
Have no fear, 1 in 3 chance of being a straight man, and 1 in 3 chance of being a straight woman so you won't trigger yourself!
http://pastebin.com/Cxea0iUj
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>>50967085
It is in fr at least, Hobgoblins frequently breed lesser goblins to try and be more useful and are at least responsible for bugbears.
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>>50967015
Waiting for me back at home, we spent the new year's eve together, then I went drinking with friends and colleguaes.
I'm going back home to her, on a taxi driven by a towelhead.

I'll spend the first day of the year getting a hangover nursed by a loving loli.
How will you spend yours?
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>>50967274
Leo the professional.jpg
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>>50967265
Got the trans end goals the wrong way round. Ammended version: http://pastebin.com/Xs76F4AW
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>>50967273
Hunh...didn't know that.
Cool.
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>>50957172
What's going on in that .gif?
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>>50963891
>>50964136
>all fantasy kingdoms are just middle ages european states practicing agnatic primogeniture
Have some fucking variety for Christ's sake
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>>50957172
>Why would anyone EVER roll a female character over a male one?
For high lethality games.
Somtimes you roll a couple characters at once, one over the other, in a little stack.
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I rarely have male characters...
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>>50967274
I'm a big fan, nice to meet you
Hope you make her happy, sir
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>>50958361
>I have a bad habit of playing my male characters stoic as hell.
>most of my groups assume I don't recognize the character's inner turmoil and that I'm just "playing the numbers".

Maybe this requires some cooperation with the DM here (though that should not be a problem, considering TTRPG are cooperative storytelling at heart) but try giving your male characters a 'cute' sidekick. Maybe your character is a single father who takes his daughter on adventures because there's nobody else to take care of her in his absence, maybe he has a sassy pegasus as a mount, or maybe he constantly has a snarky, sarcastic pseudodragon on his shoulder. Giving this character a cute confidant gives you two options:
1. The character already takes care (or tolerates) these people/creatures, revealing he has either a kind heart or a lot of patience
2. It allows the character to break his stoic shield to at least one NPC and reveal some of his inner turmoil. Maybe the single father constantly apologizes to his daughter for not being a good enough parent on his own, maybe the paladin indulges in a few sassy pegasus jokes, maybe the knight tries to help his snarky pseudodragon friend to see the positive side of things.

Just a suggestion, do with it as you will.
You now imagine a paladin's pegasus checking out girls and telling his rider "Dayum son, dis mamacita rite here has sum honkey-tonk in dat badonkadonk 'namsayin'? Of course you know 'namsayin'!"
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I'm male, I play female characters all the time. It's nice to have some variety in the typically all-male parties.
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>>50970907
>a single father who takes his daughter on adventures because there's nobody else to take care of her in his absence
That's adorable.

Age 5
>Just stay close, pumpkin. Daddy needs his little lantern-carrier.

Age 7
>Get down from there, young lady! At least wait until it's dead before you start climbing on it.

Age 10
>Remember that scroll I gave you? If you ever get lost or separated, just climb the rope and wait until I come get you.

Age 13
>I'm sorry, sweetie. A dad just doesn't like seeing his little girl in danger. I promise, the next monster's all yours. But I'll stay close, just in case, okay?

Age 16
>Oh-ho, so that's the ranger you can't stop talking about, is it? Just promise you'll Send to me if you're going to be out late, okay? Stay safe.
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>>50961957
Is there more to this glorious image?
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>>50965745
>>50966284
What are you two talking about?
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>>50962598
Sorry but all I have to go on in for figuring the dragon's gender is that the party met the dragon in a dream who appeared as an old albino member of my character's species but when said dragon was previously interacting with us in the real world it was through a, possibly, magically created, female albino version of my PC's race. So I guess the dragon's gender is male but can't really be sure.

When it comes to the sex of dragons in my GM's setting I'm still not too sure due to his answer upon my asking whether or not dragons have bits being, "Dragons have within them all the bits needed to make another dragon. The same dragon". Given these dragons merely reincarnate as the same dragon when killed I guess they are technically sexless? They also don't interact with mortals well since each dragon's actions are entirely based around a concept ("hospitality" is the only dragon we have met so far and I hope we never meet a murder dragon).
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>>50965715

This is a simple power/balance relationship. I have had several younger girlfriends and it all looked the same. I was the older guy with the better income, they felt good having a man telling them what to do and being a bit spoiled as well.
The power levels of these relationships where uneven at its core. I knew more, earned more money, had more stuff to say about. They where pleased (in the moment) to have a guy who had his own place, had a car, a steady income and someone who took care of them financially. But they also knew they had to play their part, they had to be the "woman".

In my current relationship, we are the same age, and have the same educational level and roughly the same income. We now share a home, car and responsibilities. And its a 100 times more demanding! Because, now, I don't get what I want, when I want it. I cant "demand" stuff, I can have an opinion...
If the overall experience yields more in the long run, only time will tell, but so far so good. But I have understanding as to why men seeks women of other cultures, and that includes younger women (as that can be classed as a culture in itself).
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To appeal to my fetishes.
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>>50957172
because its a fucking RPG and I am not sexually insecure.
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>>50957518
Saving this pasta
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>>50965807
Strange...

Have you ever thought about drawing clown ladies in clothing more modest that the image provided??
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>>50971824
>I was the older guy with the better income, they felt good having a man telling them what to do and being a bit spoiled as well.
That's the dream.
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>>50971824
Always found uneven power levels off putting in a relationship.

I myself look for an equal partner in crime not a lackey but if some people end-up happy with a skewed balance of power in an otherwise happy and stable relationship more luck to them.

Hope things keep going well for you my fellow elegan/tg/entleman.
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>>50965260
I don't know, there's a difference between a perfect actual sex change spell that literally makes you change sex and current sex reassignment surgery, which is anywhere between a fair external facsimile until ageing sets in and the god-damn hon'ny monster. Without knowing for sure I bet at least some of the suicides are due to unrealistic expectations for transitioning.
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>>50971955

It is, until they realize they want to take up a bigger space. See, when they socialize with their girlfriends, who have guys in their age group, they soon gets this idea that they also want a job, responsibilities, and things to say on the matter.
Other times, they spend a few years with a guy like me, then the urge to go out and take back those lost years with wild parties and so on.
The thing is this, when you have a younger girlfriend, you have a relationship with someone from a different culture. I guess, sometimes its "meant for life", but more than often, she realize she wants more than being a housewife, and thats when it´s going all down the shitter.

You can of course repeat the process with several girlfriends, but after a while you start to realize you want something that stays together, and then you need a relationship on terms that will hold. Be it a woman your own age, in a equal relationship, or getting a mail order bride from a third world country (that has no say on the matter), but the younger/older relationships never tends to hold more than a few years tops in my experience.
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>>50958361
What the fuck, are you me? That's 100% my story.
You're even posting my husbando.
What's going on
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>>50971910
I might do so just for you,, anon,
I did fan art for Scout because one anon commented there was so little of it.
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>>50972074
There's metastudies on the topic.

Suicide is dramatically less likely during or after transition than it is before. It's less common among those with support from friends and family, and more common among those who feel they don't pass.

So a perfect magical transformation would definitely be much smoother than transition is in real life. As for the "support of friends and family" factor, that's setting-dependent.
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>>50972009

I red somewhere that the one thing men wanted in a woman was that she was stupid. That being said, "more stupid than him" I think the term should be.
Again, this is just your average male thinking, and it is understandable. Because if everyone in a family does what I think is best, of course there wont be any problems. But when the shit hits the fan, and other opinions are spoken, this type of relationships usually comes crashing down like a house of cards.

So I agree, so far so good on the equal terms train.
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>>50972074
This seems like a non-zero factor.
I have no issue with trans people, whatsoever.
But reassignment surgery makes me feel like Dr. Leonard McCoy.
It's horrifying barbarism.
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>>50972116
It all depends on the individual. I've got a submissive streak a mile wide, but at the same time I've no doubt that if I were better established myself, the allure of "guy with his shit together" would be considerably weaker.

I dunno if the joy of being spoiled ever completely wears off.
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>>50972210
It's come a long way, and there are some big advancements on the horizon--perhaps even within the next decade.

Not that I don't get where you're coming from, but even as it is now it's not all that much worse than many other surgeries. Ever look up the procedure to lengthen legs?

It's mostly just quasi-amputation and skin grafts (for MtF, at least). Gross to the layman, but medically pedestrian.
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>>50971293
>Rope Trick
Nice touch.
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>>50972116
Yep.
>you want a relationship with a young, maturing individual
>you want something that stays together, and then you need a relationship on terms that will hold.
Pick one.
There are young women who have already matured, but finding one that both wants that life and wants it with your ass is effectively futile.

>or getting a mail order bride from a third world country (that has no say on the matter)
Still doomed for all the same reasons.
What you want is a "mail order" bride that DOES have a say in the matter.
A woman capable of negotiating the sale of her future life in exchange for quality of life assurances is also capable of committing to the arrangement.
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>>50972335
You might have an inaccurately rosy impression of sex slavery.
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>>50972270
I was talking about genital reassignment, specifically.
Stone knives.
Bear skins.
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>>50972386
I assumed you were. So was I. It's quasi-amputation and skin grafts.
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>>50972351
I know someone who knows a guy who "bought" a Colombian wife.
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>>50957172
To pin them both.
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>>50972407
I don't believe you and have no interest in researching it.
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>>50972453
That had better be a joke, anon. You basically just said "shut up, I just wanna sit here and be wrong". That's paraphrasing, but it's not an exaggeration.
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>>50972498
More of a:
"I believe I am right and you are wrong, but I will publicly acknowledge that I am unwilling to do the legwork to establish this as fact. However, my laziness, and unwillingness to expose myself to possible graphic photography of unsightly imagery, does not indicate concession of the point and if you were capable of bringing sufficient evidence to me, I would be convinced. I doubt you're willing to do so, as there is no certain benefit to you, so I will not suggest it."
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>>50972647
The procedure for male-to-female genital reconstruction consists of making a slit up the length of the penis, and in a sense tucking it back up into the body. The scrotum is then used to provide skin grafts to form the labia; if there is not enough skin for this task, then more may be taken from the inner thighs.

Some procedures also use grafts taken from the large intestine or small intestine, which allow the newly-formed vagina to have a mucous membrane. Otherwise, this change happens slowly over the course of years, assuming the patient continues taking estrogen.

The vagina must be dilated with a medical dildo, which I realize sounds like a term I made up, to prevent it from collapsing. Much the same thing is done after many other surgeries. They used a sort of scaffolding insert in my nose after I got a septoplasty a few years ago.

Here's the wikipedia page. There are no pictures on it anywhere.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaginoplasty#Sex_reassignment_surgery
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>>50958639
Well your mother seems to have gotten laid, so yes
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>>50959174
>>50971782
You seem pretty narrow-minded, anon.

What if his dragons are indeed physically sexless, but gravitate toward a certain gender? That's actually canon for Warforged. Perhaps the gods of your setting that originally created the dragons are separated into male and female, and the dragons are consciously or unconsciously emulating them.

What if his dragons are physically male and female, but ancient laws forbid them from increasing the number of their kind? Things would get pretty crowded if you spend eternity making more and more immortals.

What if dragons are magically created, but mature and age in a normal biological manner? They wouldn't require sex organs (though they may have vestigial parts), but they'd still have sex hormones, which could cause a distinct shift in personality in different proportions.
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>>50972736
Okay.
That does sound like a simpler medical procedure than I expected.
You know what it doesn't sound like though?
Something that results in a vagina.
I have been somewhat swayed.
My inner Bones is still horrified, but less so than by chemotherapy.
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>>50971653
Befriended a lonely little redhead girl, grooming and prepping her to be cocksleeve, she's in love, germany
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>>50972871
Follow-ups have shown that within a few years, most gynecologists can't tell the difference between a trans woman's vagina and a cis woman's from a routine exam.

Also, the "advancements around the corner" I mentioned include actually being able to grow organs in the lab. Vaginas are one of the first organs to be grown in that way successfully, and they were then transplanted into women who'd suffered birth defects.
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>>50965090
Looks solid, I would re-fluff it as a televised event and do brackets\elimination\humiliation matches, though.

Anyone who's interested I'll probably go shill this on Gamefinder.
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>>50972927
With such technology around, how would a porper hedonist be able to resist having best of both worlds?
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>>50973143
Wait, what?
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>>50972880
>not grooming delicious brown syrian loli
>not scoring bonus points saving young soul from the vile of misguided faith
>not raising her to be both cocksleeve and upstanding citizen
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>>50973412
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>>50957489

The one with the purple hair is trying to deliver a package piledriver but her target struggles free
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>>50957240

Patrician taste.
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>>50973326
I think he's basically saying IRL Futas When
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>>50973684
Well, there's already been a case of artificial penis (for a man who lost the natural one in particularly gruesome childhood accident). Now it's just a question of finding medical team with similar skill and little qualms about ethics. My money's on the Chinese.
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>>50973684
>IRL Futas When
Well, now. Many trans women opt for orchiectomies (removal of the testes) rather than full SRS.

I don't know if they'd love being called "futas", but I'm not a mind-reader.
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>>50973724
that's what I did. I wouldn't mind getting a vag installed though if I could keep my dick.
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>>50973738
London?
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>>50973759
sorry Philly, US
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>>50973738
Actually getting an orchiectomy essentially rules out vaginoplasty later. Without testes the scrotum shrivels until there's too little to use for labiaplasty.
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>>50957172

Because they felt like it?
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>>50957518

Okay, thus is too obvious. You need to work on your storytelling to make it more believable. Not even a supreme autist would say

>I am to my knowledge the only true traditional gamer. The rest of you are perverts.
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>>50958639

>evil
I'm sorry. I assumed that we were talking about orcs, who do not have evil hardcoded into their biology like demons.
>unintelligent
There is no evidence that an orc couldn't be just smart as other humanoids if they cared or had the resources to do so.

All these assumptions anon. That being said, getting fucked by an orc might be someone's fetish. Ask some of the people on this board.
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>>50972129
I'm sorry to say, Anon, that I am you. Eventually you will become a time traveler and return to 2016 to try and undo a great wrong ... while successful, the ripple effect caused all kinds of havoc and now we can't get back.

I forgot I saw this thread before, because I didn't post in it.
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>>50972151
>>50971910
>Have you ever thought about drawing clown ladies in clothing more modest that the image provided?
Phone art is hard.
Don't know your name anon, so I dedicated it to Gropey
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>>50971910
I'd honk her ass so hard.
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>>50974275
HOW HARD WOULD YOU HONK IT?
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>>50957518
This is pasta right?
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>>50957240
I wanna play with this anon
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>>50957172
I'd rather be Xiaoyu or Chun-Li over Jin or Ryu.
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>>50958467

Didn't they just make half-orcs and half-elves fertile an edition or two ago?
That means the majority of half-orcs are just born to half-orc couples.
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>>50974297
So hard, she'd stop making dumb jokes for a moment.
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>>50974557
>the knight could not save the lass
>so he fucked the jester in the ass
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>>50971910
Why do I find female clowns and jesters so hot?
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Magical Realming.

That said, unless you are playing FATAL or something where the sex of your character actually makes a difference, all PCs may as well be inert blobs when it comes to whether the contents of their pants are inside or outside.
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>>50973684
there are a few pronstars that have had the colon version (of varying quallity) without loosing their penis
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>>50958727
I'd presume the vast majority of people would prefer a cure that doesn't involve them dying.
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>>50957172

Why not?
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>>50960389

Huh; my half-orc paladin (well, this was before half-orc paladins, he was an OG fighter-cleric) has a similar thing; his mother was a priestess who went among the orcs in order to preach and convert; She married a chief (or subchief, I misremember), had several kids, and eventually had to leave when things soured, taking most of her children with her.
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>>50961957
sauce?
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why would a girl ever roll a male character anon?
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>>50959148
Whiggers and Niggers aren't known for self awareness.

They're known for being basal, thuggish, mongoloids that make halfcaste thraell children deserving only servitude to Karl and Jarl.
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>>50959235
Race mixing is for dogs.
>>50959309
Degeneracy leads to smugness out of a lack of self consciousness and a heaping teaspoon of denial.
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>>50977954
>>50977975
Then why are mixed-race babies the cutest babies?
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>>50977985
Girl detected
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>>50977975
Here's the (You) you wanted, my inbred cuckold friend.
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>>50957172
Fap material.
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>>50958541
iirc, a particular belt only works on the same person once.
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>>50972413
Such a practice has always struck me as depressingly un-romantic.

Smacks of reducing love to a monetary transaction which as a die hard romantic just wilts my soul...
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>>50978923
I feel like the bigger problem is that human beings are being bought and sold involuntarily for the purpose of being used for sex in a practice as horrifying as it is secretly prolific.

But maybe that's just me.
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>>50972819
>You seem pretty narrow-minded, anon.
At the time I did not want to dig too deeply into what my GM has created in regards to his dragons so that I could RP my character with a genuine sense of wonder about the creatures.

>What if his dragons are indeed physically sexless, but gravitate toward a certain gender?
As stated before my current guess is that this statement is accurate for my GM's setting.

Given your other questions I now do want to grill my DM on how exactly dragons came to be...
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>>50972880
>>50973412
Grooming is creepy...
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>>50973716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHFtbSZ3KRE&ab_channel=deathsign092
I'll bet on the Germans.
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>>50973738
>>50973784
Once when digging around parts of the net frequented by the body mod community I saw an MtF who was heavily tattooed, had sharpened teeth, and seemingly lacked a scrotum and in its place what appeared to be a vagina of sorts. They still had their penis.

Does anyone know who it was I saw?
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>>50974202
Occasionally I go by Gruen.

She looks lovely.

Didn't expect my request to be fulfilled but it is much appreciated.
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>>50974275
>>50974297
>>50974557
>>50974604
For all (You) elegan/tg/entlemen.

I've been collection images of pretty clown ladies for years!
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i've ran nothing buy male characters for 16 years, so just last year I made my first girl character, a red sonja sort of barbarian chick, and she's been saving people's ass over and over. I made a second girl character, a druid that i'm going to focus as a controller, a lady wild elf druid of the arctic

they been a fun change of pace
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>>50979158
>Does anyone know who it was I saw?
This sounds like you're asking some kind of riddle.

>What kind of bear did the hunter shoot?
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>>50975083
Because dear Anon such a person is likely to be artistically talented and have a good sense of humor. Both of which, at least in my case, are highly desirable traits for a waifu.
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>>50978971
>I feel like the bigger problem is that...
Yeah, that phrase is what people say when they want to redirect to their own pet cause.
Go cure childhood cancer fucker.


>>50978923
>Such a practice has always struck me as depressingly un-romantic.
>Smacks of reducing love to a monetary transaction
You are underestimating the human capacity for self delusion.
He has the the perfect relationship, full of romance.
She... well, I honestly can't say...

As far as delusion goes...
He tells everyone he met her in a business trip to Colombia when his job does no business with Colombia.
He posted pictures of their first meeting on facebook, never suspecting that other people understood the color coding of the paper wrist bracelets.
He called a year later asking if he should be worried that she wired money to her exhusband in South America and calls him every month.

No worries though, once she spawned an, admittedly beautiful, larva, he had no complaints.
She is the perfect wife.
...
...It's okay for severe diabetics to live off Colombian food, right?

100% of this is fact.
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>>50979069
Creepy-anon, is that you?
Or a reposter?
Either way, props.
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>>50979196
Claim that G neclace as your own.

I'll drop another sexy clown for you eventually.
I still have to draw a car having sex with a Dragon.
Apparently, there is an absence of it on the internet.
4Chan cannot abide such things.
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>>50979567
How does the guy live with that? Even self delusion has to have limits and what will happen when he comes to his senses? At the expense of sounding creepy I'll admit that one thing I need to have in a relationship (since I myself will be giving it) is absolute loyalty and honesty from my partner.

>>50979598
I am merely a reposter and admirer of Creepy-anon's work. Haven't been lurking the most recent drawthreads though so my collection is a little incomplete right now.
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>>50974202
what program do you draw with?
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>>50972009
I'm a sub in a BDSM relationship and oddly enough this is the closest to being an equal I've been in any relationship I've ever had. She doesn't go into screaming crying fits because me driving with my hands at 3 and 9 means I hate her and want her to die like my ex wife, she doesn't look down her nose at me while living in filth like my last GF, I get to keep my money and make any decisions regarding my life I see fit. Also I don't get shamed for wanting sex more than 3-4 times a year, which is a bonus.
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>>50957172
Usually because the person in question is either female or believes that the character would be more interesting to play as a female (this of course is a false notion)
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>>50957172
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